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their Hi everyone, This is Christina
and Carmen and this is another episode of

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As Spooky Tells, the podcast for
All Things As Spooky. Sorry you might

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hear my children in the background.
I can't get rid of them. So

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I did change the topic last minute. Oh, in true ADHD fashion.

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Mm hmm. Yeah, we were
going to talk about a cult. We

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were going to talk about the Lebron
cult. That's been an ongoing topic that

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you changed. I have all the
stuff, like all the research done,

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but I forgot that like every March
March, what we usually do for International

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Women's Day and then like Women's Month
is cover cases involving women in either Latin

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America or the US, like petin
a women in the United States that like

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don't get enough attention or are still
like unsolved, or there's still something like

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off about the case and they haven't
gotten or like more attention never hurts.

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And that's what I'm doing and we're
talking about Erica Alonso. Have you heard

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of her? I don't think so. Yeah. I posted I toiktok about

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her last year, but I realized
I never did a episode on it,

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so I was like, oh,
I might as well do a full episode.

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But yeah, we'll just there's no
listener story. We'll just start with

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the case because it's depressing and sad, and I'm depressed in sad so fitting,

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yeah, fitting. Erica Melissa Alonso
went out for Valentine's Day in twenty

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fourteen. She was with her on
and off again boyfriend Larry, and he

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was likely the last person to see
her alive. He refused to cooperate with

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her family and with police, and
her family is still wondering what happened to

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her to this day. So.
Erica Alonso was born in March twenty sixth,

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nineteen eighty seven, in Orange County, California. Her mother, Margarita,

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was from Mensalvador and her dad,
Isaac was from Mexico or is from

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Mexico. Wow, it's like the
opposite of us. Yeah, Mexic Salvis.

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The pair met in California and they
went on to have a huge family.

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Erica was the third of six children, and her family describes her as

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fun, bubbily, always the one
to bring the party, like the life

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of the party. She made friends
with everyone, and a couple of her

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siblings' younger brother Isaac Junior and then
one of her sisters Denorra I believe is

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her name. They would go on
to say that maybe her being so friendly

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and trusting would be her downfall.
She had dreams and aspirations. She graduated

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from Laguna Hills High School in two
thousand and five, but she was,

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like geun sure of what to do
after she graduated. She had different jobs

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after high school, including working at
Disneyland, and she apparently loved Disneyland.

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I think she was a disney adult
before the term was coined officially. And

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they were so close by that she
was there almost every not almost every weekend,

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but a lot. Oh yeah.
It was only thirty minutes from her

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house. So oh that's cool.
I mean if I was that close,

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i'd be there too. Yeah.
Actually, no, it's expensive if it

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was that close and cheaper exactly.
And she was twenty seven years old when

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she disappeared. She had been planning
on going back to school, and she

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also had just started a new job
at Victoria's Secret. She told her dad

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Isaac, that she would give him
grandchildren in five years. She was her

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niece's favorite person. She was the
cool Tia and she loved them. Her

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nieces called Erica their best friend,
and she wanted nothing more than to be

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a mother herself, but not yet, like she told her dad, in

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five years. She had like a
plan and everything. She was not someone

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to have an uneventful night. If
she had no plans, she made some.

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She was either always with her sisters
and nieces, or out with friends,

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or her on and off again boyfriend
Larry Rivera. So that's what she

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was always doing, either with one
of those three things. And Larry was

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eighteen years older than Erica when they
first got together. When she went missing,

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they had been together for two years. Oh, I was about to

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ask. Okay, so two years
so she was twenty five, I mean

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she was an adult. It's still
weird and he was like forty something.

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It's yeah, it's a big age
gap, eighteen years, like you know,

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I mean like I'm not a fan
of it for sure. Yeah.

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Their relationship was not always great.
When they were happy, they were happy,

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always out together, partying out with
friends, hiking, or hanging out

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with Larry's five year old daughter,
who Erica loves like her own child.

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They knew how to have fun,
but there was also a dark side to

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the relationship. Larry's neighbors in Irvine, California, they would often hear the

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couple fighting. Neighbors were forced to
call the police on them, and they

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remember just a lot of screaming and
like physical fighting. On November tewod twenty

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fourteen, police were called to Larry's
home and Erica was charged with misdemeanor domestic

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violence with corporal injury. The following
month, she was ordered to undergo alcohol

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abuse counseling. And it seemed like
their loudest and more violent fights always happened

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when they were drinking. Makes sense. Larry also filed a restraining order on

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Erica, but that was dropped in
less than two months by February of the

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following year. February twenty fifteen dropped
the restraining order. And this is what

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the public record of what happened between
them tells. Right, she was a

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be or it was a like toxic
relationship. It was tumultuous. They argued,

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and she was the one who got
physical. If you look at the

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record alone, that's what it says, but her family tells a different story.

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There was a comment left on a
video about Erica going missing, and

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in one of the comments, someone
said Larry was the victim of domestic violence

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at Erica's hands. Then Nora,
her sister, who's been very vocal at

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her whole family has since her disappearance. She commented back, not to the

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person who commented that, not to
tell lies when her sister cannot defend herself,

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she said, get your story straight. Police were called multiple times by

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Erica and by neighbors. The one
time police arrived and Larry had one scratch

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on him, he pressed charges.
Erica never wanted to press charges on him,

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and on paper it looks like Larry
is the victim, but that's not

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the case. Did you know he
almost broke her jaw once? It's very

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common. Yes, I was going
to say that that you were gonna say,

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or yeah. When I was writing
my notes, I was like,

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Kurma's gonna say, yeah, something
about this, you know it? I

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mean, yeah, there's so many
cases, and of course it's not to

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say that men can't be victims.
Of domestic violence. But it's very,

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very extremely common for the actual victims
to be arrested during incidents of domestic violence

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because oftentimes their perpetrators are able to
maintain they're cool when the law enforcement arrives,

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and so the victim is the one
that appears to be like hysterical,

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emotional, out of control, and
so, yeah, they're the ones that

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are often arrested. Yeah, and
that's what happened here according to her family,

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which I'm inclined to believe because I
am biased and it's true, I'm

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not going to deny it. So
her family maintains that Larry was the abusive

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one, and they tried time and
time again to encourage Erica to leave Larry.

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Denra, her older sister, frequently
tried talking to Erica about Larry.

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She would tell him that she was
better than him, she deserves better,

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but Erica rarely wanted to hear it. DeNora recalls times when she noticed things

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that were off for that she just
plainly didn't like. There was one time

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Erica and Larry arrived at a family
party and they had just gotten there and

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in less than five minutes, he
seemed upset, and they suddenly had to

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leave, no explanation, even though
Erica wanted to stay. That's already like

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not a good sign to me.
Yeah, it seems like controlling. Yeah.

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On another occasion, DeNora noticed that
Erica ate less than half a burger,

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and when she was pressed like why
are you not eating more? Erica

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said Larry told her she shouldn't eat
as much because she'd gain weight and become

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unattractive. Well, Larry, and
this was of course not counting the times

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she saw bruises or like saw Erica
crying because something had happened, or a

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fight. Not to mention, when
there were fights between them, Larry would

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call Denorra herself and or her older
or her other sister Patricia, and say,

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we fought again. Erica's on her
way over to stay with you guys,

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because that would happen frequently. They
would get in fights and he would

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call and say, Erica's on her
on her way to stay because they can't

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be together. And that happened like
a little too much for like a normal,

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functional, happy relationship, So just
it didn't look good and nobody liked

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Larry, even though Erica continues continuously
brought him to have the family try and

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accept him like nobody liked him.
I mean, you know, sometimes not

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always, but most of the time. And when your family feels a certain

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way about it certain someone, usually
they're right, I mean haters, but

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a lot of times they're just looking
out for you. Yeah, no,

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I agree, But sometimes a person
just isn't ready to hear it, and

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that obviously was the case here.
So that Valentine's weekend, Valentine's twenty fifteen,

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Erica and her sisters had plans to
spend the day together Valentine's Day.

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They were going to stay in and
watch cheesy, romantic movies. I love

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doing that. Yeah right, it
sounds so fun. But Erica told them

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she had one thing to do first. She wanted to meet with Larry to

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talk about what had happened between them. Reminder again that that winter that just

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passed, so November December. November
was when she got arrested because he had

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a scratch on his face. She
had that restraining order placed on him,

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and he had just dropped it in
the beginning of February, so that's what

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all, you know, what was
going on, and she wanted to talk

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with him because they were gonna work
things out. I think is what was

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her intention and what her family thought
too, even though they didn't want her

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to. They were like, they
couldn't make her stay right. Yeah,

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So she told them that she was
going to go meet with Larry and she

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would see them tonight. That was
the plan, and so they went out

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to lunch. Her family figured that
which went well because they didn't hear from

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her again. Later that evening,
like at nighttime, Erica sent them a

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snapchat story that they were at Club
Sutra, but she still said but I'll

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see you guys later tonight. That
was her last message to them. She

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said she see them later, and
they saw that she was at Club Sutra

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and Costa Mesa. I cannot say
it in English. I'm sorry. People

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get so upset when I do that, and I'm like, I'm sorry,

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I can't say mesa. Yeah,
no, say Coasta Mesa like, oh,

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you know, who's I'm sure people
say like that, but I can't

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do it. I can't. Yeah. So they were in Club Sutra and

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according to comments I found on Reddit, this Sutra club is a place where

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people couples go seek other couples for
you know, oh what was it called

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again? Club Sutra oh okay,
interesting. Yeah, and they also said

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that or the comments said it's one
of the only true night clubs in the

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area and it was known for its
drug use and also people being drug there.

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Oh well yeah. So while they
were there, Erica and Larry met

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another couple at Sutra and they hit
it off. They stayed there until the

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club almost until the cu closed,
so around two am. Then Larry invited

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the couple to go back with them
to his house and they all got into

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the couple's red Toyota Scion and they
all hung out together until three forty five

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am. That was the last time
Erica was seen alive. So later that

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morning, Sunday the fifteenth, twenty
fifteen, Erica's family was growing concerned.

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They had not heard from Erica since
the fourteenth, and like, yeah,

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this doesn't seem like a long time, but for them it was a long

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time. It wasn't normal like Erica. They were always all messaging each other,

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so like to anyone else, it's
like, Okay, that's not that

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much time. It's the next day
they were like, this is weird.

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She's never replying. It's like remember
that time, did you notice? Yes,

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yeah, I remember the time that
I you forgot your phone somewhere.

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Yeah, I don't remember what I
did. It was so UNI like you,

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you don't have your phone, so
we text, Well, let me

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just explain, sorry, go ahead. We would text all day long,

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me and Christina. I don't know
if we had a group chat with my

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mom, but I would also text
her throughout the day and or call her

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throughout the day too, And I
think what happened was I left my phone

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in my car or at home,
and then I drove to school and merced

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and yeah, that's like almost an
hour. And then it takes almost thirty

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minutes because you know, I wasn't
gonna pay for parking, so I would

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park outside and then walk all the
way inside. And I don't know if

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anyone's been to using merse any park
in outside of the campus. That's like

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a I don't know, thirty minute
freaking walk or something. And then I

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had class for like three hours,
I think, And then I still came

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back anyway, Christina and my mom
thought I died. They were calling my

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eggs. I convinced them, yeah
it was me. I was like I

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already heard from her. Yeah.
And then when I finally got back to

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my phone. I was like,
oops, yeah, oops, so yeah,

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same basically same situation. Yeah.
They were like, why isn't she

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replying? This is not like her, So I want to say. Patricia,

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one of her older sisters, called
Larry and he said, we got

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in a fighting. She got in
a car and left. And this was

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the last time he answered any phone
calls from them. And he didn't say

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what time she left. He might
have told her on the phone that it

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was like three forty five, like
the couple had said too, that that

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was the last time she was seen. But yeah, that was the last

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time he talked to them. He
refused to answer any call or like work

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with them after that phone call,
which was also weird because, like I

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said earlier, he always called and
said we got in a fight, and

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he didn't this time. No,
he didn't. He waited until Patricia called

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and that's when he said, she
stormed off in her car and I haven't

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seen her since. So that was
already like red flag one, like really

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you always call? So that was
suspicious suspicious thing number one. They hadn't

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heard from her her family, but
they couldn't report her missing yet. It

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had only been like a day so
they waited. Then on Monday the sixteenth,

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they got a call from Erica's workplace
that she had just started. She

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didn't go to work. She didn't, Yeah, she didn't show up.

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And this is when her parents grew
worried because it was absolutely not like her

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to show up for work, to
not show up for work, Yeah,

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to not show up. They knew
that. They know their children, They

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raised them to be responsible to show
up for work, and they were all

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like that, they all never missed
work and so this was already like very

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off. This is when they really
grew worried. It wasn't like her not

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to show for work, not to
contact them, So I think this is

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when they went to the police.
Then the following Wednesday, so yeah,

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Wednesday the that week. Wednesday of
that week, they started a fundraiser to

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try and have a reward for any
information on anything anyone knew about her.

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And this was an Erica's friend that
started this fundraiser and it was for it

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was a I don't remember the name
of the website, but it was like

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what was before go fund me,
Okay, like a precursor to go fund

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me. Yeah, like go fund
me bought that company oh yeah, right,

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I saw the name, and I
don't remember I didn't write it down.

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So finally police started taking the investigation
a little more seriously. They went

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to Sutra to try and get more
information and to try and find the other

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couple that Larry said was with them. The couple didn't come forward, right,

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and they didn't come forward until police
went to Sutra, got access to

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the security footage and then put out
pictures. Oh wow, yeah, looking

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for them. This is when they
finally went. They went to the police,

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though they still to this day remain
anonymous, like nobody knows who they

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are. But at least they went
to the police, which is like what

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they're supposed to do. Their account
of the couple is as follows. They

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all left the club together around one
thirty five am, then got to Larry's

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home in Irvine. They were there
for almost two hours, but then Larry

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and Erica started arguing and it was
too intense, too much. The couple

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said we're out, and they left
around three forty five am. And this

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is when Larry claims Erica then maybe
they argued for another five minutes fifteen five

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ten minutes at most, and she
stormed. Erica then stormed out of his

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house and got into her car and
drove away, and that he had not

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seen her since. And this is
four am. Now the police talked to

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all three, the couple and Larry, and the police. Their stories seemed

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legit. So now we're five days
after Erica's disappearance. Police put out a

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statement that they have identified the couple, They have talked to them. Their

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stories have been what's the word like
sorted not sorted out, but like have

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been they've checked out their stories.
Oh you mean like the word for checking

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the story against the other, like
to make sure that crobberate there we go.

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Yeah, I had to like word
it out, explain it like to

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myself to remember the word right.
So yeah, they did that and then

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police, you know, stated Erica's
still missing. And this is like a

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press conference that they gave and at
this time, at this press conference,

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Lieutenant Hallick of the police claims that
they said the following about Larry. This

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is not someone she just met.
This is someone she had a real relationship

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with. He's not being investigated.
This is not being investigated as a crime.

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Her family insisted that this was unlike
Erica. She would not just disappear.

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She had just started this job,
she had plans to go back to

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school. She always talks to her
family, and so they put out their

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own press conference addressing the public in
tears, like come forward if you know

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anything, if you were involved in
her disappearance, like just we need to

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know what happened to her. But
still the police were investigating this with no

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foul play in mind. They put
out posters with Ereka's information, her vehicle

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information, pictures. The family kept
looking. Her mom started a Facebook page

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to find her. At the time
at twenty fifteen, it was called searching

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for Erica. I want to say
or help us find Erica. Now the

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name is Justice for Erica. So
they all believed that Larry knew more than

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what he was saying. They knew
he had physically heard her before that,

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and they believed that he was withholding
information They remembered back from like you know,

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when they met him, and how
like off put they were by him.

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But something he would frequently tell Erica
is like, don't use your debit

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cards or your phone because you could
be tracked. Like these are things he

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just said. Oh so he was
like paranoid, yes, and so's our

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that's like suspicious thing. Number I
don't know ten thousand at this point.

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Yeah, And so they via Facebook
post because they were he was not answering

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their phone calls anymore, text,
nothing. So they put out a video

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of themselves like telling Larry, have
a heart, tell the truth, what

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if this was your daughter, Erica
loved your daughter more than your own family

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to try and get him to say
something, because they truly believe he knew

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something more than what he was saying. And this please did not do anything.

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Larry just didn't come forward, didn't
say anything. He didn't cooperate with

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family, which is like not a
good look. Ever, when the significant

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other of the person that's missing as
not trying to help find her, Like,

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yeah, doesn't look good at all. The family raised five thousand dollars

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for reward money. And now at
this point in time, it was a

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month out of her disappearance and there
was still nothing. Her twenty eighth birthday

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was approaching. They they still did
not have a word. And then the

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day before her twenty eighth birthday,
so March twenty fifth, twenty fifteen,

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her twenty fourteen Honda Civic ex was
found. Wow, and it was found

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less than a mile from her house. That's weird. Yeah, if they

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had been searching for her, why
was this why was it Bradley found?

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Yeah, and so close to the
house, very close. And it was

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found in the glen Wood Park neighborhood
of Liso Veeko And this is like a

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rich white area And it was found
on and that's where she lived, Cedar

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Brick and Redwood. On the corner
of those there was a parking lot that

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was part of a parming complex and
residents had been reporting her car because they

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hadn't moved in a month like it
had, so it'd been there the whole

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time. Yeah, the whole time. Wow. And if she was like,

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if she had driven off from Larry's
house and she was so close to

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her house, why would not she
have Why would she not have parked at

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her own house? Yeah? Why
why would she leave her car at this

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random apartment complex. Yeah, that's
weird. It just doesn't make sense.

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It was dusty and full of parking
violation stickers. Oh wow, police should

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have known it was there. Someone
had to go put the stickers on there.

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Yeah. I was gonna say,
don't do's parking violation tickets come from

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the police. Not a good look
for them either. Yeah, And residents

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looked inside and they saw her purse
was in there, in her phone and

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a stuffed animal. Oh wow.
Yeah, but she was nowhere to be

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found either, just her belongings.
It didn't It was like I think more

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probably more scary for the family to
know, like, Okay, her car

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was found, her stuff, her
phone. Yeah, it's definitely more makes

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it more nefarious. Yeah, I
mean, I mean, this is twenty

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and fifteen at this point in time, this is when like nobody went out

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without their phones. Yeah, unless
something happened, like you blocking your phone

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in your car, accident something.
Yeah. So even though her car was

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found without her, her family decided
to still celebrate her birthday. They released

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a bunch of red balloons out into
the sky and it was a hopeful day

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for them. They still hoped to
find her. I don't know, I'm

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sorry, Like, I don't know
how they can have so much hope,

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I know, but like I mean, if it was you, I would

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be hopeful that we were still find
you, you know, Like yeah,

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yeah, that's true. Yeah,
But I mean, at the same time,

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I get it. It's just hard
for me to have hope. Think

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about it. I'm a very mystic
person. I mean, yeah, yeah,

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no, I get both sides of
it, because I would have been

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like, she's not answering, obviously, she's gone, Like she would not

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ignore our text messages or what do
you mean her phone and her purse and

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this stuffed animal in her car here
and she's not here right, Like,

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yeah, it would have been.
It's hard. It's hard to know what

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you would have thought, I guess
in this situation. Yeah, and you

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don't know really until and hopefully it
never happens to you. But yeah,

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exactly. So sadly, their hopeful, hopefulness, I guess it wouldn't last,

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their whope. Thank you Jesus,
excuse me, I'm sorry. As

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everyone knows, like I as everyone
knows she's an ata. Yeah, it's

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our mother. Yeah, she says
that to us. Anyway, moving on,

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their hope would not last. On
April twenty seventh, twenty fifteen,

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biologists were coming in area for a
research project. They were biologists for the

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Transportation Departments of California. They were
searching for endangered frog species and they were

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just a little over a mile into
the forest off the or take a Highway

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in like the do you know where
the or take a Highway is at?

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No? Okay, well this is
I want to say it's like that.

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I No, I don't think it's
the Inland Empire. I mean, like

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I'm probably driven by it, but
I have horrible memory and navigation, so

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yeah, I only know about it
because I've talked about it. Oh on

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TikTok. I've covered so many places
from this area because people kept asking for

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them. Do you know where Lake
Elsinore is at? So trying to figure

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out where else is there? Just
because if you don't know a lot of

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people, probably other other people don't
know, right, So okay, Laguna

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Beach La Okay, Okay, west
to Lake Elsinor. I'll send you this

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little screenshow so you can see so
oh okay, and then like the San

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Bernardino National Forest Area riverside. I
know what you're talking about now, okay,

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So, and then if you look
at I'm gonna send you a Google

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Maps picture, but I'll probably just
post this so people know on Instagram as

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well, so people know like kind
of where she was from and where she

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was found. Okay, I don't
think I've actually driven near here. Like

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not that far out. Yeah,
I think the furthest I've been is Anaheim.

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I've been to Riverside, Anaheim,
Luna Beach, but that's just like

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not that way. Yeah. Yeah, so that fifteen and again I'll post

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these pictures. But that is or
Tega Highway and that is where she was

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found. That's so sad. So
this is where the biologists team was doing

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their search for endangered frog species when
they encountered a decomposed body and they could

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only tell it was a woman.
They there was no way to confirm it

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was Erica because of the time that
had passed, the exposure to the elements,

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there was no way to id the
person that they had just found.

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Erica's dad, Isaac, he drove
when he heard a body was found.

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He drove from where they lived all
the way out to the Ortega Highway,

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hoping to see like that it wasn't
her, but there was no way to

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tell. I don't I again.
I'm depressed today, so like if I

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start crying, it's to be surprised. The following day is when finally the

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medical examiner confirmed that it was Erica
alonso A via fingerprints because they could not

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tell who it was, and initially
there was no known cause of death,

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and then the report came out and
her death had been ruled in overdose,

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and her family was just left confused, like what do you mean in overdose?

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So investigators received the official report of
her autopsy on Tuesday, July twenty

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first, twenty fifteen. She had
been found with a or It had been

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found in the report that she had
a blood alcohol level of point twenty two,

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which is more than double the legal
driving limit in California. It's point

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eight. That's a lot. Yeah, so it is a lot. Damn.

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Yeah. Another weird thing that was
found was GHB and I'm not gonna

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say the fancy name. That's the
date rape drug, isn't it. Yeah.

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Yeah, And her family was like, all right, well, why

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was this in her system? She
wouldn't have taken that drug on purpose?

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No, No, And that's not
an unreasonable assumption to me, not at

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all. I mean, it's not
a recreational drug, you know what I

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mean? Like if there was,
like, I don't know, something else,

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then you could be like, Okay, she was, you know,

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using it, just partying, but
exactly yeah, And her family said,

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like, we know, she's been
known to like try a couple of drugs

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here or there while partying. But
this is not a party drug, is

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what they said. This is She
would not say this, ye, but

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then police destigators claimed just because it
was found in her system does not mean

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she was drugged, and that this
drug creates an excellency like feeling and has

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been used recreationally. I've never never, ever, ever, ever, ever

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heard of anybody using that recreationally.
Ever, I me neither. Granted,

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I don't know. I don't think
that I've never heard of that. Yeah,

407
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,880
right, I don't break take,
but I know that people that partake

408
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,079
in like recreational drugs besides the you
know, like weed, And I never

409
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:47,200
in my life heard anyone say g
HB. Like I just I don't know

410
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,279
how true that is. I mean, listeners, if you have heard of

411
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:53,440
this, let us know, because
I have never heard of this either.

412
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:56,359
I was when I read that,
I was like, are they serious?

413
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,160
Are they being We're serious? Yeah? Seriously, Like, as far as

414
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,480
we both know, it's not a
thing. I don't know, So to

415
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:10,200
me, it was not unreasonable about
her family thought. So I just looked

416
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,839
it up and says it's sometimes used
as a party drug damn on the spot,

417
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,519
Wow, okay on the spot fact
checking. I guess it is used

418
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,759
as a party drug. It can't
be that common, though, I don't

419
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,880
know. Yeah, it seems to
me like no, but I guess it

420
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,039
is a thing. Yeah. Here's
an article from twenty seventeen. Each be

421
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,680
a party drug that's easy to overdose
on once used in childbers. Interesting.

422
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,319
Oh okay, why are you glad
to take it at dance parties and to

423
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:45,720
enhance sex? Oh okay, well, now this puts a new spin on

424
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:52,279
things that I that I guess could
be true. Huh okay, Well I'm

425
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,440
glad you checked. Yeah, I'm
glad you googled on the spot. It's

426
00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,799
infrequent though still this article says,
yeah, it's twenty seventeen. But yeah,

427
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,960
it says people most likely to use
GHB usually use other drugs as well.

428
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:12,039
GHB us has recently increased among regular
ecstasy and methaphetamine users, which is

429
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:14,759
what one thinks like as a party
drug excess, That's what I think.

430
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:16,839
But a lot of times like it'll
be combined with math. But yeah,

431
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:21,880
but says it's still infrequent. So
okay, so still infrequent, Okay,

432
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:23,920
Yeah, all right, Well,
there's still a little bit of doubt here

433
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:30,559
then, Okay, So investigators claimed
that this was an overdose, but her

434
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:35,640
family they still had questions that had
no answers. If this wasn't intentional,

435
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,759
if it wasn't overdose, why was
she found thirty miles from where she was

436
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:42,960
last seen. I was just gonna
say, even if it was an overdose,

437
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,559
somebody put her body out there.
So yeah, exactly, her car

438
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,519
was not at her house, but
it was less than one mile from her

439
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:53,759
house, like like someone got rid
of evidence and rid of her. It

440
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:58,759
seems like it just Yeah, things
still didn't add up. How does she

441
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:02,440
drive if this was an overdose,
if she was that drugged, like and

442
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:07,759
that she had done it herself,
how does she leave Larry's house in her

443
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:10,319
own car? It just that it
still didn't make sense. And then on

444
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:14,359
top of that, how did she
get to the Ortega Highway? Like?

445
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,880
Yeah, and yeah, two whole
months after she went missing, Like,

446
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,480
things just didn't add up. Her
family maintains that if Larry didn't kill her,

447
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,960
if he wasn't involved directly in her
death in that manner, then he

448
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:31,680
was involved in moving her. If
she had died on her accident, he

449
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,880
still didn't report it to the authorities, and he still hit her body,

450
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,720
but they maintained he was involved in
her death and that her death was not

451
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,400
properly investigated, and that I mean, it's not far fetched, not at

452
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,559
all. Why was her car not
found right away? Yeah, Like why

453
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,599
was she found that much after?
Like just yeah, things didn't add up,

454
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:57,319
her dad said the following at the
time. If she was dying,

455
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,000
then how come they didn't call Nangung
when like what really happened that? Yeah?

456
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:05,000
Does the couple know more than they're
saying, right, someone knows more.

457
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,960
Yeah. So Erica was laid to
rest May eight, twenty fifteen,

458
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,199
after a beautiful ceremony. She was
buried at the Ascension Cemetery in Orange County,

459
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:20,000
and her father said about fucking stupid
Larry. We were expecting him to

460
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,239
come forward and say I want to
help with the search for Erica. He

461
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,760
never did. They even would have
welcome, welcome to him at the funeral

462
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,800
if he supposedly had meant so much, you know, to her. Yeah,

463
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,480
So again it just didn't look good
to them, like, yeah,

464
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:38,920
it's definitely suspicious. Yeah, And
it cemented their belief that he is hiding

465
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,599
something. And her family still runs
the Facebook page that I mentioned earlier.

466
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,880
I will link it in the show
notes. They post pictures of Erica once

467
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,440
in a while, not once awhile
frequently they post pictures of her. They're

468
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,599
still seeking such justice. They share
podcasts that talk about Erica and videos talking

469
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,920
about Erica. This is why I
was inspired to do a full episode because

470
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:02,119
they tagged me and they found the
TikTok. I made a spooky tails and

471
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:06,079
posted it on their page and said
thank you for sharing this, and I

472
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,639
was like, oh my god,
Well I haven't done a full episode mm

473
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,039
hmmm. But yeah, that's why
I was like, I need to talk

474
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,920
about it on the podcast, because
you know, TikTok is one place,

475
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,039
but we haven't done a full episode
on it. But yeah, they reshare

476
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:22,400
everything they see about her, all
episodes that talk about her. Denra herself

477
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:28,000
was just recently a few months ago
on an episode of Voices for Justice.

478
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,039
Have you heard of it? I
think I have a really good podcast.

479
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:35,880
And oh god, god, I
can't remember her name. Her sister went

480
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,719
missing though, and it was a
whole inspiration of what she does. Why

481
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,920
can't I remember her name? This
is terrible. Well, let me see,

482
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,239
but I mean you can look it
up. Voices for Justice, I

483
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,000
think, Karmie you're looking at right
now, right, it's typing voices instead

484
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:55,400
of voices on accident. Voices for
Justice, Sarah Turney. Yes, yes,

485
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,639
yes, god, it's terrible.
It's just a bunch of women.

486
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:06,079
Yeah. Yeah, and of course
it was finally fond of guy. Oh

487
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,239
how many scrolls? Well, it's
starting from the oldest to new oldest Okay,

488
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,920
no, sorry sorry, no,
newest to oldest and so and it's

489
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,760
weekly, I imagine. Yeah,
yeah, I want to say this episode

490
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,360
on her came out. It's late
twenty twenty three, or it might have

491
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,679
been something like that. But you
know me, I don't know dates.

492
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,840
Yeah, I haven't come across it
yet. I'll tell you when. I'll

493
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,519
tell you when the episode came out, because I'm probably way oft on when

494
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,320
it came out. I think you
are, because I was in July.

495
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,840
Oh, here it is. It's
from May. Yeah, I was gonna

496
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,440
say May eleventh, twenty twenty three. Let me add it to my cue

497
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,119
right now. You should. And
yeah, her podcast is. I'm obviously

498
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,239
it's so sad because they're all people
Seeking Justice. But it's such a good

499
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,519
podcast. I highly recommend it,
but also very sad. But yeah,

500
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:04,840
I didn't she she is on that
episode. Wait, you didn't mention that

501
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,639
she was found wrapped in plastic bags
and dug tape. Oh my god,

502
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,840
I meant to write it in the
beginning. Yes, I forgot to mention

503
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,320
that, which is even more that
makes it so much more evident that she

504
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,840
didn't drive out there herself and then
somehow get lost. Yeah that is she

505
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,880
was literally wrapped up. Wow.
Yeah, yeah, so even more suspicious.

506
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,400
That brings the question even more about
how they could say this wasn't foul

507
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,960
play, Like somebody doesn't wrap themselves
up in plastic and rap plastic baduct tape,

508
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,159
Like that's literally impossible. Yeah.
Wow, clearly someone did it and

509
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,519
took her out there. So yeah, I'll put that link in the show

510
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:47,960
notes because then you can find all
the things they repost as well. And

511
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:53,880
I want to repeat that. To
this day, the Alonso family still maintains

512
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,199
that Larry is somehow involved, that
if her death was accidental, then he

513
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,000
was involved in the state that she
was found, wrapping her up in plastic

514
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,920
and putting her out in the art
of the Highway. On February fifteenth,

515
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:15,000
twenty twenty three, Margarita posted on
the Facebook page that they run twy nine

516
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,800
hundred and twenty days without you.
Please share her posts or call the Santa

517
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,639
Anna Sheriff's Department. Ask whoever is
in charge. Ask them about the Erica

518
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:28,960
Alonzo cases twenty fifteen. Ask them
when they're going to solve the case so

519
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,400
our community can be safe of one
less criminal. Do that and help so

520
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,519
we don't have to go another year
without answers. Please get whoever was involved

521
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:38,719
off the streets and put them where
they deserve to be, behind bars.

522
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:43,360
Even if you don't care about the
case, the killers out there blending in

523
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,000
with everyone else. Would you want
someone that dumped another human like trash as

524
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,679
your neighbor? Then help by sharing
and calling. Today on her eighth anniversary,

525
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,519
and that was last year. This
year February fifteen, twenty twenty four,

526
00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,760
her mom posted today is nine years
as we lost Erica. Please share

527
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:06,519
anything on social media with all of
you. We can bring awareness to her

528
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,960
case. Let it reach those that
know or saw something around that time.

529
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:17,159
Please help us get justice by taking
a few seconds today and sharing and the

530
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,239
police. They maintain that the investigation
is stagnant, so it's come to a

531
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:29,400
halt and they can't confirm or deny
that it was a homicide. So again,

532
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,480
basically the same thing, they're like, this was God, what is

533
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,079
the opposite of a homicide? Like, oh, an overdose? Oh?

534
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,320
An overdose? Yes, that's what
they said, and that's what they're maintaining.

535
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:44,920
But okay, even let's say it
was an overdose, what of wrapping

536
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,519
her body? Like, isn't it
still a crime? I was gonna say,

537
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,719
yeah, I was gonna say it
as a question, but I know

538
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,280
it's still a crime. So yeah, that's still a crime. Is it

539
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:59,800
not a crime? Yet? It
is? Exactly. And so Erica's family

540
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,599
actually began working with lawmakers to punish
those with tamper with evidence or dead bodies,

541
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:08,079
and it did pass. It's known
as Erica's Law, and it went

542
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:13,719
into effect in twenty eighteen. And
this law makes it so that the statute

543
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,440
of limitations for the dumping of a
body is extended to four years after the

544
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,320
body is discovered. So it doesn't
add time which is a year and a

545
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,840
thousand dollars fine. It doesn't like
extend the punishment of doing this, but

546
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:36,599
it allows them to present okay and
investigate for more than they could have before.

547
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:43,920
It provides investigators with additional ability to
pursue and charge individuals who commit the

548
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,360
crime of concealing a body due to
an accidental death. And it also they

549
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,679
hope that it discourages individuals from failing
to be forthcoming with law enforcement. So

550
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:58,159
they're hoping that this can be something
used against like if you hide or if

551
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:00,280
you know something, if you did
something, so we can use this against

552
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:06,079
you. So yeah, something they
could not do before. Right. Yeah,

553
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,599
And like I said, just before
we had that brief pause that we

554
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:14,440
were looking for the podcast name and
the day that it came out, DeNora

555
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,119
was recent not recently, I guess
in twenty twenty three. She was on

556
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,400
her Latge Justice last year. Yeah, and and she said the following.

557
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:29,920
Her family, they try to keep
going, but it's like there's a piece

558
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:35,599
of them that is missing and they're
never going to get that back. She

559
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:38,840
said, her and her siblings,
they were like a puzzle that worked perfectly

560
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,480
fine together. They loved each other, and now the piece that kept them

561
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:49,760
together is not there anymore. And
that was Erica and it's so sad.

562
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,360
They still live with the pain of
not knowing. It's been nine years and

563
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,000
it still feels like it was yesterday. And Denorra wants Erica to be remembered

564
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,840
as the amazing daughter, the amazing
sister, the amazing dia that she was.

565
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,400
She was not just another person found
on the Ortica Highway. Their normal

566
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,159
life is gone forever. Life will
never be the same. Yeah. They

567
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:22,599
want closure, they want another autopsy, and they want a full investigation that's

568
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,639
done well, because I think it's
safe to say that the investigation that happened

569
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:35,239
was bad. Inhabitant shadd yass work. Yeah. Yeah. The family urges

570
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,320
anyone who is willing to do so
to call Orange County Sheriff's Department at seven

571
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,159
one four six for seven seven thousand, and that's gonna be in the show

572
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,199
notes, but seven one four six
for seven seven thousand, and ask them

573
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,519
to investigate the case of Erica Alonso
as a homicide and to share anything about

574
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:59,360
the case, share her story,
share her pictures on social media. Erica

575
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:04,719
was twenty when she went missing in
twenty fifteen. She was last seeing leaving

576
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:09,199
Larry's apartment quote unquote leaving Yeah,
we don't know, or I want to

577
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:15,320
say she was probably last seing entering
her his apartment. Yeah, her body

578
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,960
was found in April twenty fifteen on
the Ortica Highway. And again, like

579
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,519
you said, Carmen, that I
completely didn't write down, but wrapped in

580
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:30,440
plastic with duct tape. Yes,
And she was from the Alisso Vehicle area

581
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,599
of Orange County, which is a
very white, very relatively safe neighborhood.

582
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:44,039
And like if she had been someone
else, maybe maybe better investigated. When

583
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,400
I shared because I was tagged on
the TikTok that I made about her,

584
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,320
and I shared it to the Speaktall
story and a couple listeners message and they

585
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,800
were like, oh, thanks so
much for talking about her, and I

586
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,760
was like, you know what,
I haven't like properly talked about her again,

587
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,719
which is why I'm doing the full
episode. But those people message me

588
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,800
and they they're from the same area, and they said, like the area

589
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,880
that she was from was yeah,
rich white, and if she had been

590
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,679
a white woman, like she probably
would have been investigated a little better.

591
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:19,639
But because she had this history of
partying, because she was Latina, Young

592
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,039
had criminal history. Yeah, with
the domestic violence report that had been filed

593
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:29,280
on her. I mean that's probably
why they felt so easy to just like,

594
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,239
oh, this is obviously an overdose
and nothing bad could have happened to

595
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:38,119
her. Yeah, her family they
have questions, and it's their questions are

596
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,440
like legitimate, like they're they're valid. Yeah, thank you, that's the

597
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:47,400
way they're going to think of.
But yeah, that is the case of

598
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,880
Erica Alonso. Oh sad, very
sad. Yeah, that's why I was

599
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,239
like, I'm not going to do
a listener story because I think in the

600
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:04,239
past, in March, we've talked
about other cases like Maricela Escoberto. Yeah,

601
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:09,920
that one's terrible. They're all terrible. They're all terrible, they're all

602
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,760
Adrian Studyiness is another one that that
happened in Arizona, and we've done like

603
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,239
a spooky story with it. But
today I'm just sad. Yeah, I'm

604
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,760
just sad. There's nothing good.
I just just got to hold some space

605
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:29,079
for the sadness that's okay exactly,
and and just focused a whole episode.

606
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:31,679
I feel like I should have done
that in the past, like not combine

607
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,000
a spooky story with these stories.
Well, people come for the spooky stories

608
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:37,639
too, so that's anything wrong.
With it. No, I know,

609
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,039
I know, I think you're being
too hard on yourself. I think you're

610
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:49,800
right. I think you're right.
Yeah, but yeah, I just wanted

611
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,719
to short her story. And well, thanks and thank you Carmen for being

612
00:45:53,800 --> 00:46:01,079
here. I had to. That's
true. Contractually direction, there's no contract.

613
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,320
Oh my god. Sorry, I'm
just bessing. Yeah. Yeah,

614
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,719
I'm also finally not sick anymore.
So well, I'm actually I'm a little

615
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,679
sick, but I'm a little better
today. I'm hoping to get back to

616
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:22,320
recording Patron episodes soon. Those were
fun. Yeah, and I got a

617
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:28,400
check with MJ when she's able to
record again, all right, And yeah,

618
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,360
those are just a little bit of
updates, I guess. I mean,

619
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,880
do you have any spooky recommendations?
I know I've been watching Avatar.

620
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:39,480
Okay, have you seen it?
No? I like it. I know,

621
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:45,079
like people are very picky. Obviously
doesn't follow the cartoon entirely. Like

622
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,679
they changed some stuff up, you
know, because you can't fit a whole

623
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:52,719
everything, so they put some stuff
out of order and when it happens.

624
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,639
But I really like it so far. Okay, maybe I'll watch it.

625
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,360
I've been watching the only thing I
didn't like. I didn't like the actresses

626
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:07,760
they used for Asula and uh Mine, I forgot the other girl's name.

627
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:13,119
Yeah, yeah, that's I didn't
like them. They well, Azula,

628
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:22,320
I feel like it's in the hell
of Mexican AZULAA doesn't doesn't look evil enough,

629
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,239
like she has the baby face,
and I'm like, I don't.

630
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:30,000
I think she needed to be a
little bit more, you know, sharp,

631
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,880
and then my the voice, she
has it down, but also another

632
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:45,320
baby face. I feel like my
wait, no, no, tie has

633
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,159
a baby should have a baby face. So she she does, but it's

634
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,079
too much of a baby face.
Oh, I feel like I, at

635
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:57,119
least from what I and I'm I'm
probably being a little too critical, But

636
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,599
from the trailers, the actor of
just got out my nerves. I'm like,

637
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,199
he's not as annoying like on the
show. Okay, okay, maybe

638
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,719
I'll watch it. I've been watching
Lucifer still. Oh, I think you'd

639
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,199
like it, honestly, I okay. It makes me just want to rewatch

640
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:16,079
the cartoon, which you're probably going
to rewatch after I'm done with the show.

641
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:22,079
I do love the cartoon. Yeah
maybe cry okay, cry, Okay,

642
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,480
don't watch it. You know why
because they show it's not really spoilers

643
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:30,360
because I think anyone who's watching it
already knows what happens. Okay, so

644
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,800
they show, you know, in
the cartoon, they don't show the attack

645
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,800
on the airbenders at least I don't
remember that. They don't know. They

646
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:43,800
just they show applied and a little
things. But in the in the show,

647
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:49,079
they show them fighting back and they
it's like a big scene and it

648
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:51,800
made me cry because I was like, I didn't see it in the show,

649
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,599
and Kiatsu is protecting the children in
one part, and I was like,

650
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:00,639
because you know what's going to happen, you know, you know,

651
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:06,079
he just fought to his last second. Oh my god, I have gels.

652
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,760
I have gels. You're gonna like
it, I know you are.

653
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:12,440
Let me think of all the all
the genocides have that are real. Yes,

654
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:19,559
yeah, man, Yeah, that
reminds me Free Palestine. And also

655
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,760
go listen to his story as a
known where we talk about genocides in Latin

656
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,800
America. Yeah, yeah, because
genocides are not fictional, you know.

657
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,440
Yeah, I'm just sad today.
So yeah, I guess that would be

658
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,719
my only recommendation. It's not really
a spooky recommendation. Yeah, okay,

659
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:44,239
a recommendation nonetheless. Yeah, and
mine was Lucifer. Oh when I finished

660
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,960
reading the book, Oh my god, you did. And we haven't recorded

661
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:52,440
our episode. On the episode,
I'm still working on notes. I'm almost

662
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:57,880
m I'm like in chapter five.
Okay, it's hard to know what to

663
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,559
add. I know, I I'm
working on it. Okay. I did

664
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:05,800
it all last week because I have
also been depressed for like the past two

665
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,800
weeks. Yeah, and the only
thing I could do is lay down and

666
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,159
read. That's why I finished the
book. That you know what. I

667
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,920
forgive you for reading, for finishing
the book. And then I was traveling

668
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:19,639
also yesterday for work, and then
I read it on the finished it on

669
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:22,400
the plane. I was like,
yeah, I get it now, I

670
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,719
get it. Yeah, Like I've
been doing like and I know people like

671
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,119
joke and say like I'm depressed,
but no, I've like legit. Yeah,

672
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,840
I've been doing nothing. I put
off these notes too much. I've

673
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,760
been putting off my work. I'm
like, all right, I need to

674
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,400
go back to therapy and I need
to get back to like actual work now.

675
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,880
I can't just being depressed, which
is a luxury. I know,

676
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,039
But where was I going with this? I don't know. I don't know.

677
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,559
If you can't get therapy, I
don't know, if you're that's your

678
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:54,800
recommendation. No, oh yeah,
I mean yeah, but no, that's

679
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,320
not what I was gonna say.
Whatever. I forgot what I was going

680
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,199
to say, and why even mentioned
that or moving on? I forgot to

681
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:06,079
or you may have heard at the
top of the episode Brick Carmen and I

682
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,840
you better not ditch me. But
we will be at the True Crime Paranormal

683
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,679
Podcast Festival in July Coden. Yeah, yeah, I gotta look for tickets.

684
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,559
Yeah for us, Yeah, yeah, we'll be there. It's in

685
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:22,800
Denver, July twelfth to July fourteenth. We'll have a little table. I'm

686
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,719
excited to meet other creators there,
like Sustal. If you're listening to Aiden,

687
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,159
I'm excited. Who else did I
say was gonna be there? Lady

688
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:35,960
obviously Lany Yeah so but yeah,
So if you're in Denver, in the

689
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:40,519
Denver area, go to the True
Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival dot com and get

690
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:44,760
your tickets. I don't have like
a fancy code, but Susto does.

691
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:50,960
If you go to his episode,
it's sustal something anyway. Anyway, Yeah,

692
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:52,599
I hope we meet people there.
I'm excited. I'm gonna bring some

693
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:59,119
stickers to hand out and I don't
have any other merch to hand out all

694
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:01,280
the stickers and we'll be there,
so yeah, I'm excited for that.

695
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Yeah. Other than that, I
don't know. I guess stay a spooky

696
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:13,440
call the number I mentioned, share
things about Erica Alonso and yeah, we'll

697
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:20,599
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698
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699
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713
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714
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717
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