WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.519 Get some facts and come back and seebe. Get some facts and come back 2 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:20.760 and seebe. Don't throw out salaries or other things. Get some facts and 3 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:25.120 come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you 4 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.879 need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats 5 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.519 in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my 6 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.399 extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We 7 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:39.079 don't need no mouns. We don't need no cats. We need more dolls. 8 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:44.399 Why you're not a detain Oh you're not that detained. We weren't good. 9 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.840 There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm telling you. 10 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:49.200 We laid an egg. So I'm not gonna break it down for you. 11 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:54.200 He sucks. He sucked. He laid an egg. That's all I 12 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:56.399 have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it down 13 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.479 for you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have 14 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:04.359 to figure it out. And we went eight show down, final hower of 15 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.079 the program. Glad you're with us, sun Exes and Bros. Across the 16 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:12.200 great state of Michigan. Just a reminder that later on today on all of 17 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:17.239 these great station affiliates. The Huge Show takes place from three till six. 18 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.000 The Meyer Hotline is open for you eight six six, eight three eight forty 19 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.719 eight forty three. You can text the program sports Radio to twenty one thousand. 20 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:29.200 Tigers did not play yesterday. They get the Pirates in back to back 21 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:36.359 games today and they get two firebawlers. I made a lot of Paul schemes 22 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:41.079 yesterday, and for good reason, because I think the dude is you know, 23 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:44.040 he's thrown it at one hundred and two miles an hour. The guy 24 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:48.959 throwing in Game one for Pittsburgh, Jared Jones, is just as effective with 25 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:53.359 his heater. Let's see how the Tigers do against them double dip today at 26 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:59.200 Comerica Park. Meanwhile, on ice, Panthers use overtime to beat the Rangers 27 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.319 three to That series is even at two apiece. I said this before Sam 28 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:07.879 Reinhardt scores one to twelve into the overtime. It's a sixty fifth goal of 29 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:12.439 the year. He scores three. He's got thirty one power play goals this 30 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.319 year, at twenty seven during the regular season by far and away the most 31 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:20.479 in the NHL, and now with the postseason added, he's got thirty one. 32 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:28.159 Also this the Panthers are eighty one two and six when leading after forty 33 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:35.719 minutes of play. That's amazing. Minnesota shows some amazing forty two. May 34 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:39.280 beat Dallas one toh five to one hundred to stay alive. It's three to 35 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:44.400 one in the series of the Western Conference Finals in the NBA. Dallas is 36 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.800 up. The NBA is off today because Boston swept Indiana. They are waiting. 37 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:53.400 Let's see if the weight hurts them. You know, it's always rest 38 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:58.680 versus rust in sports. Let's go back to the Meyer hotline. Eight six 39 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:00.680 eight three eight forty eight forty one three, Ben, who's waiting for us? 40 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:04.680 Yeah, we got Freddy on the line. All right, Freddy, 41 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.400 hope you had to get a good weekend. Man, what's up you too, 42 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.400 Chep. I forgive me for calling, but when you're reading my text, 43 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.639 the platform kind of cut out, so I I ain't here here half 44 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:22.919 of it, and I kind of wanted to finish the conversation. Yeah, 45 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:27.919 what would I forget? Which text was? We've had some text? Yeah, 46 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.120 I mean this whole situation is kind of a funnling to me. I 47 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.199 mean, no one's righting, no one's wrong it just I guess you know 48 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:38.520 what I took out of yesterday was for me, I kind of want to 49 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.039 put the owner to the side. Okay, forget this, Just forget about 50 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.240 the owner in this situation. You know, you know I've heard for years. 51 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.199 Number one, I've heard three years from guys that turn out of MIC. 52 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:53.520 I've heard from fans. Owners need to hire smart guys and just get 53 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:55.560 out of the way. You know, if Tom Gorge would even do that, 54 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.039 that would be that would be great. But we've seen it in the 55 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.479 pass where owners I've hired smart guys and just got out of the way. 56 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.439 So that's why I kind of want to take Chris out of the equation for 57 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:12.520 a second. Is I'm a little confused why Scott Harris was brought in. 58 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.120 Now, I understand Avila had to go. That was I was one of 59 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.279 his fans. But I understand he had to go. So they probably are 60 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:25.759 Scott Harris. And where I'm confused is I don't tell me if I'm wrong. 61 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:30.160 From what I heard yesterday was yesterday I heard more of, Hey, 62 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:34.959 these young batters are struggling in Major League Baseball because of the pitchers that they're 63 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:40.920 seeing nowadays, and they're doing, they're doing so hard that they can't get 64 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:45.040 that in the minor leagues. So when I sent you the text day, 65 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.120 they said, Okay, well we'll call up all these young kids and bring 66 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:53.120 them up. If your plan is not to make the playoffs this year, 67 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.680 bring them up and see what you got for the next two years. That's 68 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:01.560 where I'm kind of confused with Scott Harris is he's been here, I think 69 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:08.040 almost two years, and he's made a couple of trades, but he's really 70 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:14.319 feeding off of feelos guys. So you know, the beginning of this year, 71 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:19.399 I think what happened was they really think on Parker Medals to be that 72 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:25.399 leadoff hitter. It's got and hetorical seem to be that number three or four 73 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:30.839 hitter, and they brow up in their face. So now they have nowhere 74 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.680 because he's got a feelis guys. I don't know if they're right or wrong, 75 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:40.199 but that's where I'm confield, is why is Scott here is brought in 76 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:45.120 if he's just sitting there with a Felix guy, whos are being made, 77 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:50.439 whether it's a trade or bringing these guys because you just got done saying that 78 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:56.000 in the minor leagues. He don't see the same pitching as they do in 79 00:05:56.040 --> 00:06:00.560 the major leagues, and it's not enough for them. That's where I'm okay, 80 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:02.879 yeah, no, I get it. First of all, you can't 81 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:09.079 take the owner out of it. When the president has basically said we've got 82 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.959 to have the foundation before we spend money. You can't take the owner out 83 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.000 of it. When the payrolls at one hundred and six million dollars and in 84 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:20.519 ranks twenty fourth. It is all part of the process. So that's number 85 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:24.639 one. Number two. Their plan was never to have Parker Meadows be the 86 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:29.360 leadoff guy. They didn't. He didn't show that in the minors that he 87 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.000 was necessarily a leadoff guy or leadoff capable. He was more of a bottom 88 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.160 of the order guy. That was never the That was never the plan. 89 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:42.480 The other part is Spencer Torkels. Yes, I think they thought he was 90 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.000 a middle of the order guy. They perhaps may maybe they still do. 91 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:50.480 Think he's a middle of the order guy four or a five. Three, 92 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:55.319 probably not. Riley Green would probably be more of you, your two or 93 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:59.439 your three. It shows you, I think, just our conversation here, 94 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:05.920 Freddie, it shows you the lack of talent this team has to fill those 95 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:10.160 specific spots. I'm not going to sit here and try to tell you that 96 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.519 the ultimate leadoff guy is the ultimate leadoff guy back in the day when I 97 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.639 watched baseball as a kid and Ricky Henderson, I don't think. I think 98 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:23.839 things change. Okay, it's just like basketball. I mean there's no you 99 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:28.680 don't have to have Isaiah Thomas. If you have Luka Doncic handling the basketball 100 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.759 and you know he's six' nine, six' ten, that's okay. 101 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:36.040 That's the way base that's the way basketball is today. You don't have the 102 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:41.959 pocket passers in football. Always you got guys who roll outside the pocket and 103 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.639 so on and so forth. So I don't think there's that standard. Here's 104 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.319 your leadoff guy's got to be fast and got to be able to bunt and 105 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:51.399 have a great eye. And then number two is this and number three is 106 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:58.519 that you want your best hitters getting as many at bats as possible. And 107 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:01.000 I don't think Detroit has an of really good hitters where you and I would 108 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.240 say I gotta have these three guys getting the most at bats. That's part 109 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:09.160 of the problem. Well that that's fair. And then the Parker metals thing. 110 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.720 I think more. I think they were banking on him playing, even 111 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.040 if it was bottom of the word batt in two fifty two seventy, getting 112 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.360 on base to cause some having and playing good well well, bet look, 113 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:26.120 batting, getting consistent at bats and and being the leadoff guy are two different 114 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:31.879 things. You said they were banking on him being the leadoff guy, and 115 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:37.399 that's not necessarily true. That's number one and number two. I don't know 116 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.559 that in a perfect world they would love for him to be a two seventy 117 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.919 hitter, Freddy. He wasn't a two seventy hitter in the minor leagues, 118 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.159 So why would you think he was going to be a two seventy hitter at 119 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.919 the major leagues? That they're not. They're not so naive to the fact 120 00:08:54.679 --> 00:09:01.120 that the expectations people have outside the clubhouse is all that different from those who 121 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:07.000 I have expectations from who are inside the clubhouse. They didn't think he was 122 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.759 going to be a two seventy hitter. No, No, he's a two 123 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:16.000 forty five hitter in the minors. Just okay, okay, okay. But 124 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:24.000 my thing is, I'll be honest with you. I'm with him saying Okay, 125 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.600 let's build a foundation before we spend money. I'm with Okay, I 126 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.320 totally agree with that. Okay. The problem is for me is why did 127 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:35.759 you bring Scott Harrison if you're still gonna be playing with a Vilas Polker. 128 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.559 Well, because you can't. Here's the reason. 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And we just got done with with Freddie who called 162 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.120 in and wanted to know why Scott Harris is and he's what's the point of 163 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.639 bringing him in if he's just going to use Alavila's players. Well, you 164 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.279 know, there are certain things in baseball you have to you have to understand 165 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.240 on how you go about a process. You want Max Clark, and you 166 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.720 want Kevin McGonagall, and you want Time Matten, and you want all these 167 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:39.080 different guys. You know, you do have to make you do have to 168 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:43.159 adapt to a forty man roster too, Like none of those guys who you 169 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:48.759 mentioned are on the forty man roster, and I think the Tigers have been 170 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.440 for years have been way too protective of their forty man. If you got 171 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:58.240 rid of a certain guy, made him available. There's a lot of teams 172 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:03.600 they're not taking certain players. They're just not. But you still would have 173 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:11.399 to make room for those three guys. Okay, now who would you keep? 174 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.000 If you're Scott Harris, do you just want to if you're just saying, 175 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.399 like Freddy said, if all you're gonna do is going to use your 176 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.879 guys, then you might as well get rid of the certain players on the 177 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:30.279 forty man. Say goodbye to bow Briski, Say goodbye to Alex Fayato, 178 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.799 Say goodbye to Wilmer Flores. Say goodbye to Jason Foley. Say goodbye to 179 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.200 Tyler Holton. Actually you brought Tyler Holton in. Say goobye to Alex Lang. 180 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.759 Say goodbye to Matt Manning. Good Bye to Casey Mice, Goodbye to 181 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.480 Reese Olsen, good Bye to trek School, good Bye to Will Vest, 182 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:52.960 Goodbye to Joey Wentz. These guys are all those are Alavila guys. You 183 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.399 think that Scott Harris's job, Freddy is just to bring in guys that he 184 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:07.120 is supposed to sign or draft. No, but he does have to add 185 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:13.840 two and decide which guys are going to stay and not. Buddy Kennedy doesn't 186 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:18.679 move my needle. Eddie's Leonard doesn't move my needle, but he brought him 187 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:24.120 in. Gee Orchella doesn't move my needle. He can't play all the games 188 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.879 with just the Matt Verlings of the world and the Markannas of the world because 189 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:37.200 they were quote unquote his guys. Now, has he done enough to filter 190 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:43.200 in the necessary talent to go with some of the younger guys. That's a 191 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:48.240 question that you have to ask yourself, and I'm sure most people would say 192 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.519 right now. No. Back to the phone lines and the Meyer hotline. 193 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:56.399 Eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. What's up, Ben? 194 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:01.279 Who do we got? Yeah, we got Robin Rockford Rockford rams Hey, 195 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.960 Rob, how you doing good, chef? How you doing this morning? 196 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.919 You seem a little tense. You need someone there to give you a 197 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.080 hug because you just seem a little tense. And I just want to kind 198 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:16.279 of offer my opinion on some of this stuff. Uh, go ahead, 199 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.519 I know I'm frustrated. I'm a frustrated Tigers fan this year too, and 200 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.519 I just think it's, you know, it takes. It's been a rebuild 201 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:28.320 for quite a long time, but frankly, the first rebuild, I don't 202 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.879 you known, just wasn't going to work. And they brought in Scott Harris 203 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:37.679 to bring the Tigers into twenty first century. And that's not just with players, 204 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.879 but also analytics and all that other stuff that they're using. They've always 205 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:46.039 been behind on that stuff that other teams have used for quite a few years, 206 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.960 and that's where why Scott Harris is brought in. He's bringing in a 207 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.399 certain type of player. It's going to take a while, though. You 208 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.039 know, some of these other players at of Vila got fors. They're going 209 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.360 to be there, Guys like Riley Green, Cole keyth not so sure about 210 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.200 Toorkalson and stuff like that. But some of those guys will be there and 211 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:10.720 they will be the foundation. But he's only had one draft and those guys 212 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:14.840 are all at double or High A and Single A right now. It's going 213 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.559 to take a couple of years for them to fill trump there. That's just 214 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.360 the way it is. I know, it stinks. I'm tired of rebuilds. 215 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.159 Myself. Three out of our four teams are still rebuilding, and it 216 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.320 gets frustrating. But I think they're on the right track. Yeah. No, 217 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:37.279 I think when you look at a baseball team that is spending one hundred 218 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.360 and six million dollars and you feel like they could spend a little bit more, 219 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:47.159 I'm not asking to double the amount of money. I'm asking you to 220 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.799 be in the middle of the pack. I don't think that's too much for 221 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:56.440 Tigers fans to ask. That's where the conversation began. And as far as 222 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.960 as far as Scott, yeah, yeah, and you're right, Scott Harris 223 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.079 came in. Analytics was a big part of it, for sure, But 224 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.759 this is would you agree this is one of the weaker divisions in all of 225 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:14.119 baseball? I would have agreed before the season started. All right. Now 226 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:19.759 you got Cleveland playing just great baseball and even Kansas City, and I think 227 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.839 that's where a lot of Tigers fans are frustrated. They see a team like 228 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:29.359 Kansas City who's yell stunk last year, they've been rebuilding now they're up there. 229 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:33.000 They see a team like Baltimore who was drafting and getting ill stunk for 230 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.440 a while. Now they're up there and then they see the Tigers and nothing 231 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.680 much has changed. But I mean, Cleveland is just playing lights out. 232 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:45.960 I can't believe they're playing this good. I thought when they lost Francona, 233 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.960 you know, they would go take a step back. And frankly, if 234 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.319 Cleveland keeps playing like they are the rest most of this year, it ain't 235 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:57.440 gonna matter. We're not going to touch them. So but I was, 236 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:02.279 I agree, I thought going into was a weak division. I'm not thinking 237 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:08.200 that anymore. I understand that because of Cleveland, And you're right Kansas City's 238 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.400 surprise success. I mean, this is a Kansas City team. That is, 239 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:17.039 they were last in twenty twenty three, they were last in twenty twenty 240 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.920 two, they were second to last to twenty twenty one. But people look 241 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:26.000 at Minnesota, who in twenty twenty one finished in last place in the Central 242 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.440 Division. Okay, and then the following year they made an increment and they 243 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.799 were middle of the pack. And then last year what did they do. 244 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.000 They went up and they won the division and they don't, like fans do 245 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:42.480 not see Detroit doing the same. Now, you're right, you have to 246 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:47.559 be somewhat patient with some of the younger guys, but you can still add 247 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.079 players who can make a difference for your team while helping the young guys along 248 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:56.759 at the same time, and this organization has not been able to do that 249 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.480 very well. Well. I think some of them, you know, tell 250 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.039 you the truth. Like Yo, you didn't mentioned Matt Chapman, and I 251 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.279 like the guy. I think he's a good player, But I just don't 252 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.039 see guys like him unless they don't have a choice. They're not going to 253 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.400 come to Detroit. Number one. That ballpark's not going to fit his style 254 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.880 of play at all far as hitting goes, and they just don't see Detroit 255 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:25.799 I think as a destination yet, you know, yeah, get that ballpark 256 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:27.880 a little more. It's a little more conducive to guys with the right handed 257 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:33.359 pull power, and I think that just you know, turns people off and 258 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.519 then they just they have to get that foundation built. I look at a 259 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.559 team like Houston, Matt, you know, for seven years they make the 260 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:47.000 Championship Series, but they never sign a big free agent. They always build 261 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:52.119 from within. When Korea leaves, they get Tanya, When Springer leaves, 262 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.359 they go out and get They have Kyle Tucker ready to replace him. That's 263 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.960 where Detroit has to get to be to be a long time, long time 264 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:06.119 consistent contender. Yeah, signing guys is great, but man alive. I 265 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.160 saw a lot a lot of guys last teams last year, signed all these 266 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.279 big free agents, and hardly any of them did much. Well, that's 267 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:15.880 why I said, world, That's that's why I said, you don't You 268 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:18.640 don't have to spend a lot of money to win. And thanks for the 269 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:22.039 phone call, Rob, I think you have to spend it wisely. The 270 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.519 only thing I would say about the Matt Chapman thing is the San Francisco ballpark, 271 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.519 especially because of the wind and so on and so forth. That's not 272 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:34.519 conducive to him either. Okay, So if you're looking at home runs, 273 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:41.200 for example, San Francisco and it's a beautiful ballpark, it gives up the 274 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.519 fewest home runs, fewer than co America Park, at least so far this 275 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.079 year. Eighty home runs in San Francisco, eighty five at co America Park. 276 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:56.240 So I I maybe you're maybe you're right about the destination for Detroit. 277 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:59.960 I've never been a big fan of that phrase, because I think players will 278 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.599 to go where they can win. And I think that says something about what's 279 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.839 going on too. But it's a good conversation. I appreciate it very much. 280 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:11.640 Twenty seven after the hour, I'm not stressed at all. This can 281 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:17.079 be an emotional issue, and I think there are certain things that you can 282 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:22.519 and cannot do as an organization. The Meyer Hotline eight six six eight three 283 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.759 eight forty eight forty three. We're back with more right after this. Across 284 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:29.759 the great state of Michigan on Exis and bros Hey, you're coming off Memorial 285 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.880 Day. I get that you had grilling, you had people over your house, 286 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.640 you paid tribute to those of our fallen heroes. I understand all that. 287 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.440 But my hope is that if you didn't know before that, at least 288 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:45.160 you learned now. By going to Meyer. You get that certified Angus beef 289 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:51.400 that tasted so good at your dinner table and at your cookouts yesterday or over 290 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:55.920 the weekend. Make it a habit. Keep doing that. Known for its 291 00:21:55.920 --> 00:22:03.279 marbling, its flavor, its tenderness, Certified Angus beef is the way to 292 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.839 go. It's delectable, man, it's your main course. You don't want 293 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.160 to scrimp on that. Only three to ten cattle meet the high standards of 294 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.920 becoming certified. Where do you go to get it? You go to Meyer, 295 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.000 as simple as that. And we've been talking a lot about Tigers, 296 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.279 right, we want people to support them. You want your Tigers gear, 297 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:29.000 don't go to the shops around the ballpark that are super expensive. Go to 298 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:34.759 Meyer. You get the same quality, same gear for better pricing. You 299 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.640 want your hoodies, They've got them. Your ball caps, they've got them. 300 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:44.680 You want your t shirts, They've got them. Meyer's got everything you 301 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:48.359 could possibly want. It's a one stop shop and it's the best place to 302 00:22:48.400 --> 00:23:17.559 go. Hey, welcome back. Glad you're with us. I appreciate Robin 303 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:25.079 Rockford, yeah, kind of lending a helpful hand there because he said, 304 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:26.960 you know, you sound a little stress. It's not stress, it's emotion. 305 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:33.359 There's a difference. I want this team to win. I've said this 306 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:38.240 for a long time. You know, forget what what happened to me with 307 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.759 that team. It doesn't take away the fact that you want him to be 308 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.480 to be successful. You want the city to be successful. I want every 309 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:52.720 Detroit team, every Michigan based team, to have success. There's no doubt 310 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.880 about that. How do you go about that. How do you gain that 311 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:03.119 success? And I don't think I'm I'm an impatient person. It's been a 312 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.440 long time, you guys, It's been a really long time, and I 313 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:12.920 think Tigers fans deserve better, that's all Ben. Do we have any more 314 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:17.799 techs? Do we have any more phone calls the moment? Okay, okay, 315 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:23.160 let me shift gears here, because we've spent the entire show talking about 316 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.119 this. I think it's been a really good discussion. I've enjoyed it very 317 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:32.920 much, but I want to bring this up. I really like Jason Kelsey. 318 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.519 He's the former center played thirteen years, I believe with the Philadelphia Eagles. 319 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:44.079 I really like him. He's going to shift moving from player to broadcaster, 320 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:49.279 which is pretty commonplace today, and he's going to be part of the 321 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:57.240 Monday night football pregame and postgame show or pregame show on ESPN, part of 322 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:00.920 their Monday night countdown and so on and so forth. And one of the 323 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:06.680 things he'll have to do, knowing that the Dallas Cowboys will be a topic 324 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.839 of discussion, is he's going to try his best to put his if you 325 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.759 want to call it a bias, he doesn't use that word aside. He's 326 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:22.039 going to have to be able to have conversations about a team that he simply 327 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.480 hates. And he said this, He goes, I have no bias. 328 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:32.240 I just don't like them. I give them their props. There's a rivalry. 329 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:34.519 But the reality is, even though I hate the Cowboys fan base, 330 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.599 I was at a charity golf outing not too long ago and there was a 331 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:44.440 kid there and he said, Hey, I'm a Cowboys fan. And Kelsey 332 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:47.640 said, oh, are you from Dallas? And he said no, I'm 333 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:52.480 from Philadelphia. And Kelsey said, what are you? A Lakers and a 334 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.839 Yankees fan too? Like, what are we doing? We're just picking whatever 335 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:02.359 team we want. That's where we're at. I like Jason Kelsey. I 336 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:07.960 would tell him, first of all, the Cowboys being hated by so many 337 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:14.880 is almost to compliment. Don't you think has Detroit or the state of Michigan 338 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:25.359 ever had a team that was universally hated? And if so, how did 339 00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:32.400 you feel about that? The team that comes to mind, there's two teams 340 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:36.519 that come to mind. One is, of course, the Bad Boys Pistons. 341 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:42.440 That's because everybody in the country took their cue from Michael Jordan, so 342 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:48.200 that's the first team that came to mind. I think Detroiter's and Michigan Anders 343 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:55.240 embraced it. I think they loved it. They love the fact that our 344 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:59.960 team are the bad dudes, we wear the black hat and everybody is against 345 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:04.559 us. I think it's part of the reason those t shirts of Detroit versus 346 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:11.599 Everybody is there. The other team is based on a different reason. And 347 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:18.400 people didn't like the Pistons because they felt like they were bullies. I think 348 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.440 people didn't like the Red Wings over a stretch of time because they were so 349 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:29.839 successful. Outside of Detroit. The red Wings success is a big rea. 350 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.000 Like it was great when they won when they beat the Flyers to win the 351 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:40.160 Stanley Cup, to snap that you know what a fifty year drought whatever that 352 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:44.680 was, people were thrilled. I think nationwide people are like, wow, 353 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:49.079 that's really cool hockey worldwide, that's really cool. An original six team that's 354 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:55.319 been without a Cup for that long, that's awesome. Then they win another 355 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.839 one. Wow, that's you know the storyline there with Vladimir Constantinov and some 356 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.920 and so forth. Pretty Then they went a couple more in that stretch and 357 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.400 people are like, Okay, the time to move on outside of Detroit. 358 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:15.200 Of course, Dallas is universally hated, just like the Yankees are universally hit. 359 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.599 Now, there's many people who tell you they're universally loved too. You 360 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.400 can go to a ballpark when the Yankees come to town and there's a ton 361 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.160 of Yankees fans. Are they from that city? I don't know. Are 362 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.599 they transplants? I'm not sure. The people love success, so you're going 363 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:36.799 to have a lot of people who are fans of that team outside of Texas, 364 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.920 outside of Dallas. I think it's quite a compliment. But I guess 365 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:48.480 my comment to Jason Kelsey would be this, where have you been? There's 366 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:55.759 plenty of people who are in a certain city supporting a different team that might 367 00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:02.759 be a rival of their city's team. Unfortunately, now you can't tell people 368 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.400 who to root for, right You can't sit there and say you've got to 369 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.559 be a Tigers fan, you've got to be a Lions fan. If you 370 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.039 don't vote, if you don't root for the Pistons or the Red Wings, 371 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.640 so on and so forth. You can't do that. But my hope is 372 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.880 that there's a lot of parents out there who have their kids and they're saying, 373 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.160 hey, you know what, you root for whoever you want, but 374 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.240 this is our hometown team. I have that debate with my brother in law. 375 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.519 My brother in law has a young son. His favorite basketball team is 376 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:40.960 the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. His favorite football team is San Francisco forty nine 377 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:47.880 Ers. He has jerseys of those two teams. So, being the smart 378 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.880 Alec uncle, oftentimes, when the Niners played the Lions in the NFC Championship 379 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.119 game, I said to him, how in the world can you root for 380 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:04.680 the Niners. We had a fun little conversation. Sometimes it's for no reason 381 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.680 at all. You know how kids are. It might be the colors of 382 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:17.440 the uniform, might be one specific player. As a kid, I loved 383 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:23.200 George Gervin. He's one of my favorite players. I loved George McGinnis and 384 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:29.720 Julius Irving. But I wouldn't have rooted for the Sixers over the Pistons, 385 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:36.720 even though I don't think guys like Eric Money and Kevin Porter could beat them 386 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:42.319 or John Mengelt. But I would have rooted for the Pistons against them, 387 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.359 right. But I didn't have a problem with the Sixers at that time being 388 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:56.759 successful. I didn't have any specific reason to like George McGinnis or well, 389 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.640 a lot of people like doctor J. Same thing with san Antonio. It 390 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.240 wasn't because Wow, George Gervin played at Eastern Michigan. No, it was 391 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.720 I liked the way George Gervin played the game of basketball. I liked Alex 392 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.079 English and the way he shot the basketball with the Denver Nuggets. Doesn't mean 393 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.640 no, it's a huge Nuggets fan. Just meant I liked that specific player. 394 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:26.559 So I found it interesting that Jason Kelsey was surprised at that based on 395 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.920 what that young boy said to him at a charity golf ounding. But the 396 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:41.559 other thing is I just to have a team that is so universally despised because 397 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:47.920 of their success. I think that's a primary reason for it. Maybe I'm 398 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:55.279 wrong there, but maybe it's two because of the attitude of their fan base 399 00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.079 that could be part of it too. Are there are they teams? Is 400 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:07.759 there a specific team in this state or in Detroit that you feel warrants that 401 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.559 Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three, or you 402 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.319 can text the show Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. I'm sure there are 403 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:28.880 there are some that people feel warrant a little bit of negativity around. You 404 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:34.119 know, their fan base is a is a little holier than thou, They 405 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:38.039 get more credit than they probably deserve, things of that nature. On top 406 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:44.119 of all that, speaking of football, I saw an article that ranked the 407 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:53.519 NFL's most vulnerable division winners coming up. Which division winner is most susceptible to 408 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:59.640 losing their perch in their division. My thought immediately was, Okay, I 409 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:05.640 want to say where the Lions are ranked here. Because we love the fact 410 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.240 that Detroit finally wins the division, they get to the NFC Championship game. 411 00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:15.720 They are one of those teams that should be threatened or be threatening for a 412 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:22.599 Super Bowl appearance. This is living large. This is living large right now 413 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:31.559 in the state of Michigan because our team has finally arrived. Don't put a 414 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.359 damper on it. Let's hope that their vulnerability ranks pretty damn low. In 415 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:43.960 other words, no one's going to overcome them. Here's the issue. The 416 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:50.880 NFC North is pretty good. Chicago got better, especially if Caleb Williams is 417 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.240 as good as people think he's going to be. But their defense was already 418 00:33:53.240 --> 00:34:00.200 good. Green Bay deserves a lot of respect because of what they show a 419 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:07.360 year ago. Right, absolutely, they were really impressive. Detroit, of 420 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:13.519 course, Minnesota maybe not so much. So I wanted to know where the 421 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:20.119 Lions rank in terms of vulnerability among division leaders. So there are eight division 422 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:28.159 winners, ben, where do you think the Lions ranked in terms of vulnerability? 423 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.719 Number one would be the most vulnerable division winner, the team that is 424 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:39.639 in the most precarious spot that could be overtaken by another team within their division. 425 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.599 So where do you think the Lions of the eight where do they rank? 426 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:46.760 Somewhere around the middle of the pack. I think you're right, it's 427 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.960 right around the middle of the pack. Let me give you, in as 428 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:58.199 sending order how it goes. Kansas City is number eight, eleven and six. 429 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.880 A year ago. They've won eight straight division titles. Of course, 430 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:08.159 they won the Super Bowl, so people feel like, man, they're no 431 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:14.320 one's catching Kansas City at least this year. And of course, when you 432 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:19.639 have some of the players that they have, Chris Jones on the defensive line, 433 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.119 Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey on the offense, of course they're going to 434 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.239 be reckoned with. But I think a lot of that has to do with 435 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.599 the fact that Denver is not going to be very good. The Raiders are 436 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.239 just kind of and the Chargers are not expected. It's almost by default. 437 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.880 With all due respect to Kansas City, not that they aren't great, because 438 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:45.159 they are, but their division is not all that great. Number seven is 439 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:51.320 San Francisco. Is this because they won the NFC a year ago and went 440 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:55.000 to the Super Bowl. Look, Rams were decent a year ago. Seattle's 441 00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.360 Okay, Arizona might be better than you think because they lost a lot of 442 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.199 close games. They were outscored by one hundred and twenty five points, so 443 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.280 I think you do have to take that into account. You really do the 444 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.639 out scout boar one hundred. I mean, there's only three teams who were 445 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:15.159 outscored by more than the Arizona Cardinals. But San Francisco a lot of that 446 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.760 has to do the fact that they went to the Super Bowl last year, 447 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.760 so they are number seven. Number six is the Houston Texans. We're talking 448 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:30.800 about teams that are vulnerable to lose their division. Houston won the AFC South 449 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:37.280 a year ago by a game. They are the third most vulnerable or third 450 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:43.599 least vulnerable, I should say Jacksonville Indianapolis, Tennessee is how they finished a 451 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:49.159 year ago. Number five is your Detroit Lions, and here's what they write. 452 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.119 The Lions are unmistakable favorites to speak to the progress overseen by Dan Campbell 453 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:59.440 Brad Holmes regime, but patiently built around Jared Goff to the point the x 454 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:06.119 ramcap Off once again registers as a reliable borderline top ten starter. The balance 455 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.960 of their roster is enviable, with a dynamic backfield and explosive number one receiver, 456 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.679 not to mention a defense infused with fresh secondary talent. Why then aren't 457 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:20.760 they the slam dunks to repeat? Because every team in this quartet has reason 458 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:27.239 to believe they will be better. Packers may have an MVP type gunslinger at 459 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:32.760 Jordan Love Vikings are giving Ricky quarterback JJ McCarthy elite skill weapons and Brian Flores 460 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.840 led defense, and even the Chicago Bears with the number one pick Caleb Williams 461 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:43.440 have an upgraded offensive infrastructure. There you go. You notice they bring up 462 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:50.880 quarterbacks for all teams, which I mean Minnesota. Yeah, Brian Flores led 463 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.039 defense. Let's see, they've got some skill weapons. One of those weapons, 464 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.480 justin Jefferson is pretty pissed off right now, so you have to be 465 00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:04.679 careful there. You're aware. Baltimore is number four, Buffalo number three. 466 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:10.599 A FC East is good man, it really is. Miami's Miami's dynamite, 467 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.960 right, You've got of course, You've got Buffalo. You've got some rock 468 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:22.119 solid teams. I believe in that division. I think it's really hard. 469 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.199 I don't want to say it's the best division, because I still think the 470 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:32.199 AFC North is. But when you see what could happen in the a f 471 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:38.119 C East, New England is terrible. I know the Giants, the Jets 472 00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.639 are are one of those teams where so much rides on an Aaron Rodgers. 473 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:47.320 We talked a little bit about that yesterday. But Buffalo, Miami good battle 474 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:51.440 and many people feel like the Jets are really good. Number two is Tampa. 475 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:58.360 They are the second most susceptible in the NFC South, and without reading 476 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:01.719 too much into it, people probably feel that, you know, Atlanta's going 477 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.159 to be a lot better, and I get that. And the number one 478 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:13.679 susceptible team as a division winner is the Dallas Cowboys, and that obviously is 479 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:20.039 because Philadelphia is much better. And Philadelphia lost by just a game in that 480 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.920 division a year ago. I think Washington's going to be okay. Not great, 481 00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:27.960 they'll be okay. Our thanks to Ben, our producer, and our 482 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.400 thanks to all the great calls that we had this morning, the emotional, 483 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:36.239 the well thought out. 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