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we begin yet another era in Hardwood
knocks over at speaker, let's talk James

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Harden in the Philadelphia seventy Sixers for
Shams and Woe and Sam Amic of the

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Athletic as well. They've had not
competing news updates, but it was it

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was updates. It was a material
update. So if anyone hasn't seen,

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would reported that the Sixers have ended
trade talks with the disgruntled James Harden and

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that they are going with him into
training camp. Conversely, Sam amckh had

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reported, and I believe some even
Woad or maybe it was Sham's, reported

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that James Harden won't show up to
training camp. Sam A. Mckhad reporting

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that didn't refute that, but said
it's not clear whether Harden will show up

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to training camp. If he's still
on the Sixers, he still wants a

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trade. The Clippers remain his preferred
destination. This is not significant in the

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sense of you don't stop trade talks
like the trade talks are never done.

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If there's a team that wants to
make an offer for James Harden, they

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can call the Sixers and make an
offer for James Harden. So this is

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just very much a leverage play to
get the information out there that no,

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we're prepared to go into training camp
with him, and we're prepared to make

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this awkward. And normally I would
say that they're bluffing in most cases,

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but we've seen Daryl Morey do this
before, and not two years ago,

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basically with the Ben Simmons stuff.
And I would argue because James Harden,

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Yeah, some of his playoff on
evenness is fresh in the minds of everyone.

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He's coming off a year in which
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was fringe all MBA. Most of
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on MBA player. There's value there. He's headed into free agency, but

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you will get his bird rights,
you can't extend him whatever. So it's

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just I would expect Daryl Morey too
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offer he wants, let's this leak
into training camp, and then that becomes

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the issue of Okay, James Harden
picked up his player option. Is he

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gonna hold out a training camp.
Is he hurting himself more than he's hurting

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the Sixers in that regard? Not
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you could sit out next season,
then just free and clear leave on the

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open market. But if he wants
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teams he wants to play for ergo
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max cap space next summer, you
need a trade almost And so yeah,

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you could hope the Sixers would facilitate
a sign and trade since you would be

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there on your own free will.
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up to complete a sign and trade, and the Sixers clearly aren't interested in

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I wouldn't even say the bare bones
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even if the Clippers put everything on
the table, you could trade up to

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a first round pick. Terrence Mann
is in there a bunch of expirings,

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it doesn't feel like that would get
the job done. And this is going

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to get very ugly, insofar as
you don't think it's gotten ugly already,

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because maybe this speeds up negotiations.
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cap space next summer or this monster
return, you're kind of limited in the

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scope of offers you can accept,
and so the Clippers can help you with

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the cap space element, but that
also kind of means you can figure it

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out later. But maybe the single
best asset that you would have in that

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trade is Terrence Man. Are you
gonna want his eleven million dollars or whatever

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it is on the books? I
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that offer. But if you're just
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Man for James Harden and then a
bunch of expirings, that gets tough to

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say. Okay, is next year
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At the same time, we have
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other teams that are going to be
interested in James Harden. The Knicks were

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loosely linked to him at the beginning. I doubt they would throw out a

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godfather offer for him. We kind
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was, you know, it's in
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that's another aspect of this that could
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Miami specifically, but I'm sure there
are other teams out there. You want

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to see where Damian Lillard goes,
because he is going to be the bigger

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get right now. He's not going
to be a free agent, and I

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think I don't want to say that
he's outright the better play I think he's

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the more proven playoff performer, that's
for sure, and I think you can

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make the case that he's the better
player. That's an interesting one, Harden

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versus Lillard. The playmaking for Harden
is better than Lillards, but just Lillard's

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outside shooting and him being more familiar
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why that would appeal to other teams
more. But we're also talking about two

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players where the scope of their trade
requests, demands, whatever you want to

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call it, are one team.
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open it up? And that's what
James Harden could do. I don't think

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Morey's necessarily and the Sixers are listening
to James Harden's request. Yes, the

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reporting says that they've tried to talk
to the Clippers, and they've had discussions

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with the Clippers, but this isn't
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same thing with the Blazers is they've
made it clear that they're going to hold

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sort of this open court when it
comes to shopping these guys. But the

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reporting has been so sparse on what
other teams have actually called and made offers

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that This is why reports like this
come out, is that maybe Daryl Morey

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and the Sixers are trying to drive
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because the offseason is not necessarily over
yet, but just throwing another wrinkle into

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the equation, a curveball into the
equation, to see kind of what can

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become of this. And I don't
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the Sixers for training camp in part
because which is why this is going to

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get ugly. And I guess this
is the long about, long, roundabout

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way of getting to the point of
this podcast. The Sixers want to do

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something so specific and aggressive that I
don't know that there's a team out there

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right now at this point in the
offseason, when cap space has been spent,

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when teams want to see who they
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James Harden is really so far only
communicated a desire to play for the Clippers

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that is going to come in and
be like, hey, here's expiring contracts

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and enough draft equity so that you
can go turn around and get another player

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so that James Harden's departure doesn't culminate
in a gap year for Joel Embiid,

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who that looms over everything of all
this where I think it's kind of accepted

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within NBA circles and even among MBA
intelligenza and just podcasters that the Sixers are

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probably a year away from like the
Joel Embiid reckoning and his trade request.

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He can see what they do next
offseason or what the team looks like.

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At the same time, if you're
Joel Embid congratulations to him, the newly

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married Joel Embiid, and you're watching
all this, could it technically if you

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think James Harden's going to show up
out of shape, disgruntled or not at

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all, does that accelerate the trade
request here? I don't believe it does.

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And I did say on a previous
podcast to hold myself accountable, that

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I could see it doing that.
But if you're James Harden, you're sitting

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here and you're watching what Daryl Morey
did with Ben Simmons, you lived through

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that and what he's saying he will
do essentially either directly or indirectly with the

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James Harden sweepstakes, let's call it. You don't want to request it trade

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now? Because he's not sending you
anywhere, or the offers is gonna be

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so high that you're gonna have to
come into this season anyway. You don't

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want to have to deal with any
blowback from fans or just the trade request

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looming over your head as you go
into two training camp. So I do

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not believe anymore that this is going
to I didn't give enough thought at the

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time. I don't think this accelerates
the Jowell and Being trade request timeline.

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I think what the Sixers get is
an opportunity to make whatever they can out

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of Harden, and then you go
through next offseason and you see what becomes

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of this team. I don't know
what becomes of this team, though.

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I don't see how you trade James
Harden and are better off in any way,

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shape or form, because what you
need to do to be better off

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is to either parlay him into a
star or you need to get enough assets

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to then turn around and trade for
a star immediately. And I know that

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a lot of people speculated would they
be a team that rolls the dice on

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Damian Lillard. Let's just let's assume. Let's assume that they would be willing

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to do that. You're not getting
Damian Lillard for James Harden. He doesn't

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fit anything with the Blazer's timeline.
Now you could rope in a third team.

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We haven't seen the third team suitors
for James Harden. So are they

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going to send you enough to where
you can turn around and then trade for

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Damian Lillard? And the problem there
is, whatever they give you, are

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you still include Tyrese Maxie in a
Damian Lillard trade? And does that necessitate

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a fourth team all of a sudden
or is that part of the third team

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structure. Well, you're not trading
Harden and Maxie to the same team,

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So if that's the same transaction,
there's a fourth team. Because I don't

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Maxie's about to get paid. He's
a really good player. Maybe Portland would

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have interested him. But you have
Scoot, you have Anthony Simmons, you

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have Shayden Sharp. It's already crowded
with Damian Lillard, and changing him out

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for Tyrese Maxie in a contract year, you can't look at that and say,

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well, we'll just parlay him into
someone else. So he's not going

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to be a part or at least
going to the Blazers and any Damian Lillard

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trade, and then you have to
sit there and ask yourself, Okay,

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are we without assets or imminent meaningful
cap space if you take on Dame or

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Tyrese Maxie, are we better than
we are right now? With disgruntled,

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hardened Tyrese Maxie in the one first
round pick we could trade around Joel Embiide.

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I don't know. I think there's
a chance that the Lillard Embiid dynamic

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is better then the Harden and bid
dynamic, especially in the playoffs. I

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think James Harden's passing is really important
here. Joellabi does not need a creative

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passer. Him and Damian Lillard will
be fine. The rest of the team

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though, when you look at some
of the supporting casts around them. If

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you're losing tires Maxie and his drives
and what the chaos he's gonna create.

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He's not an exceptional passer. Put
it's someone who could just offer and react

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to the defense that's reacting to him. Damian Lillarcus still do that. But

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if you're losing both James Harden and
Tyris maxically get Damian Lillard. I don't

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think you're this better team, especially
when you in my mind, you're not

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gonna have enough at F assets left
over to turn around and make all these

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other accessory moves or let alone a
meat and potatoes type of move. And

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I don't know what the Sixers vision
here is. People talk about cap space.

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I've seen it floating around that the
Sixers could get two MAX slots thrown

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carved out. No, not two
real max slots for next summer, which

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are as of right now, the
max the low is max slot for next

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summer is projected to be thirty five
point five million dollars. Yes, they

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can get to that. They can
get to almost seventy million in cap space.

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That's still not both those maxes and
you're also not giving out Those are

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maxes reserved for restricted free agents essentially, who are not going to leave their

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teams. If you're maxing out and
restricted free agent who's worthwhile that you want,

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the other team is going to match
them. Most of those players,

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I mean, look at you know
they didn't even read restricted free ac they're

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signing extensions. So you're not going
to have dual max loots. But you

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can get to sixty plus million.
Sixty five plus million. I had the

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mat in cap space maybe that even
goes up a little bit if the salary

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cap projections increase for next summer specifically, perhaps they agree to raise it a

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little bit more in anticipation of the
new TV deal a year or two down

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the line from that, what is
cap space getting you? Now, it's

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getting you a Fred van Fleet type
of player. And I've seen og Ana

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Noby mentioned as the name they could
go after. That is not the guy

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O g Na. Nooby's a really
good player. I think I've probably downplayed

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his value on this podcast a couple
times. I don't think he's not bad.

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I just don't think he's a star. He's a really good player.

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You don't plan your entire future around
him. And so I'm starting to think

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that the Sixers have less leverage here
when all is said and done. And

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I also understand by the way where
Harden is coming from. If the reporting

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is true that he wanted you know
that, if Mori only wanted him to

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sign a one plus one, that's
a even if that's full max money,

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that's a tall order. I also
get the Sixers perspective. Harden's apparently disenchanted

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because they didn't offer him a multi
year max deal. Guaranteed money. So

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if we're talking three or four years, his three year max three years and

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one hundred and fifty about his four
year max would have been four years and

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two hundred and four point seven million. It's a lot of money to commit

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to James Harden at this stage of
his career. So I understand the both

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sides of it from that, but
I also get if you're hard and why

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you wouldn't want to sign a one
plus one and why you're pissed off now.

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I don't know if opting in was
necessarily the best decision for you,

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because you kind of lost control of
this season. I don't know how it

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ends, but it feels like it's
going to end very poorly and overall.

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While I do think the Sixers have
less leverage, I think Daryl Morey has

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an iron stomach for this shit,
and it would not surprise me if James

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Harden is still on the Sixers heading
into the next season. You can tell

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me he shows up out of shape. You can tell me he doesn't show

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up at all. You tell me
he shows up and plays his ass off

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because he's trying to attract I don't
know, trying to prove a point,

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or maybe he's trying to attract other
suitors. I don't know if there's a

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no brainer team out there, get
in the YouTube comments if you made it

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this far, or a discord,
what's a team that you can see coming

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out of nowhere, not Miami,
even not the Clippers and trying to make

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an offer for James Harden. This
is going to get very ugly, folks.

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I think that we're going to go. My guests would be now that

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he's on the Sixers heading into training
camp, because Darryl Moorey is not going

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to accept bottom dollar for him,
and even some of the offers that have

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been floated that the asking price that
he wanted for Tobias Harris makes you think,

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well, what is he going to
ask for with James Harden? And

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so even if the Clippers offer everything
they can, I don't think that they're

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going to move him, and they
do have to wait, Well he could

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just leave next summer. You'll get
the caps based endscape and like the good

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Sier teams still aren't slated to have
all this cap room, and many of

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them might not want James Harden,
depending on where they are in their development

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or players already in place looking at
New York with Jalen Brunson, they don't

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They're not gonna have max base and
he's not gonna go back to Brooklyn or

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something. If they somehow get off
Ben Simmons, this is going to get

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ugly. I'm not necessarily sure how
it ends. But while I don't read

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too much into this reporting like the
trade sweepstakes are not done, the Sixers

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are not actually shut down talks,
this does lead me to believe, though,

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when we really just step back and
kind of look at this, now

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that things have paused, James Harden's
gonna be on the Sixers to start the

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season. This is going to get
very ugly, and we should probably brace

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ourselves for just like I don't even
know what like we need to brace ourselves

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through anything just feels on the table. But maybe someone does come in and

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give up, they have a slow
start to the season and give up a

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ton for James Harden. Maybe he
somehow finishes the season in Philly and then

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we're like we're doing kind of all
this all over again next summer. If

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he's trying to facilitate a sign and
trade somewhere else. I don't know how

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this ends, but I will predict
how it continues. And that's with the

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Beligus. That's that that we kind
of yet to see at this point until

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next time. And has always shout
out to Frank heel Tina and remember to subscribe
