1 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,920 Blowney brickshots in the biggest moments. I don't know. Look, look, 2 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,719 de Troy's not gonna be playing in any big moment games. That's fine, 3 00:00:22,359 --> 00:00:25,280 But now now he's gonna be struggling mentally. If you're gonna point that out, 4 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:30,199 and look, if you are ever gonna think about playing Ustar Thompson with 5 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,640 Kay Cunningham, who's an unproven shooter, even though I think I still believe 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,479 in it, Plush Jay and Ivy, who's pull up didn't improve as last 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,719 year went on, like Joe Harrison, but like that's a like having one 8 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:44,359 of Joe Harrison Boyamdonovitch on the floor at all times is like must at and 9 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:48,359 so adib Al Burks is still there after the team option. So I'm cool 10 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:50,920 with what the Pistons have did. Was there another you want to talk about? 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,119 Harris? We like, well, there any other deals that we're missing? 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,679 Can we circle back now to the oh? So Milton agreed to two 13 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:00,840 years and ten million with the Wolves. Good for him. I think that's 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,400 fair. I want to see how they're divvying up all their money. Though, 15 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:10,560 if they said naw and Troy Brown Junior got the mid level, I'm 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,519 assuming they gave Troy Brown, like maybe a dollar more than the minim mummers 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:19,120 like I don't, so they give shake five, which means like I guess 18 00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:22,840 they got nah on like a really cheap gamble. Then if we're if they 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,159 really did split the mid level amongst all these guys, which or I think 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,000 two year ten could be the bi annual at this point, let me see 21 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,799 if they even have the buy it. It's pretty close, I will say, 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,439 as you're looking, I think because we don't do this very often, 23 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:40,000 just from a player perspective, I love this for Milton because we talked on 24 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,680 a previous pod about like what's the biggest what are you most concerned about roster 25 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:48,640 wise for the Wolves at least among the things they can actually fix, you 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,599 know. So they do have a problem with spending a trillion dollars on three 27 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:55,239 centers, but backup point guard is huge and Milton can do that. And 28 00:01:55,439 --> 00:02:00,480 Conley's age, maybe, you know, is one way that Milton could massive 29 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:02,079 minutes. And it's just if they load manage him a little bit. If 30 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,599 Conley declines a little bit, totally foreseeable given where he is in his career, 31 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,639 Milton might have like a real opportunity here to you know, make two 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,479 for two years for ten million dollars look like like a springboard, you know, 33 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:17,879 to the next time he hits free agency. So I think he's that's 34 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,240 you know, we have you see the newsbreakers shouting out agents, shout out 35 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,240 shake Milton's agent, whoever that is on this one, because he got his 36 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,280 client someplace where he could really pump up his value of things break right. 37 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,879 And look, I will say, I don't know who would be coming back 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,639 in a how's this for a forced Well, let's see from Ryan Minnesota doing 39 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,080 well, building a young, cheapish bench with players that are gonna be hungry 40 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,599 for playing time. Yeah, I mean just combined the flyer on or a 41 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,599 continued flyer on Nicki Alexander Walker, who I loved coming out of the draft. 42 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,000 I was a little out on him after watching like the stints, like 43 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:53,919 towards the end of his time in New Orleans. Yeah, he played really 44 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,240 well in Minnesota, So I like that. But with Philly to circle this 45 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:00,960 back to Harden and hopefully we get like I really want to know what Brook 46 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,560 Lopez like, that's the name. I don't know why I'm obsessing over right 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,560 now, like Fred van Fleet still out there, dude, I'm just like, 48 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,759 what the fuck is Brook Lopez gonna get? Like, so you lost 49 00:03:10,759 --> 00:03:15,000 Shake Milton, who if you wanted to compete and just have a steward with 50 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:21,039 the ball in their hands? Uh, Like if James Harden's gonna leave and 51 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,759 you're not getting that ball handler back and you're clearly not signing one all the 52 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:28,360 best aside from van Fleet, who you're not getting. I guess Delo is 53 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,840 still on the table, but like all the point like we are you gonna 54 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:34,400 sign Gorn Draga or Dennis Shrewder. I mean maybe so I'm not saying this 55 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:38,240 is a massive loss for them, but the James Harden sort of limbo and 56 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,800 I guess maybe weren't even gonna pay ship jail and too, well you are 57 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,080 fired from FK Retro. That's a true one. Uh yeah, true, 58 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:49,560 he didn't he request a trade in the middle of the season two kind of 59 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,879 so I'm just Philly being kind of tied to And again I don't know that 60 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:58,520 they would have paid. I doubt that they would have actually given Shake this 61 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:01,360 money, Like Philly just being they have to be a sort of this deadlock 62 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:05,840 because of the hardened situation. I don't know how much they're actually missing out 63 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:10,000 on, but this is not ideal for them either. With the Clippers, 64 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,120 it's a little different because it's like, well, we can only give out 65 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,280 the minimum anyway. Well wait, sit and see what happens with James Harden. 66 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:17,720 Well I think, I mean, we didnt haven't even talked about the 67 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:23,319 Sixers are not gonna extend Tyres Maxie this summer. They're gonna They're gonna kick 68 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:26,079 that down the road. And that's a strategic decision. You're trying to preserve 69 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,600 flexibility. I get it, but that in conjunction with Harden and conjunction with 70 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:36,959 you know, potentially losing out on opportunities because of the hardened stuff. How 71 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:43,399 soon are we potentially looking at Joe rumblings of Joel Embiid is unhappy, and 72 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:45,720 I like, I don't want to do like a first take thing on that, 73 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,839 but like that is where this goes, if you know, if if 74 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:55,720 if they don't replace Harden with equal greater talent. Choir Paul George apathetically like 75 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,319 this is a down and Embiid is not someone that is that a point in 76 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:01,639 his career where we need to be taking steps backwards. We need another step 77 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:08,439 forward. It's it's a potentially kind of hairy off season for the Sixers, 78 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,040 which Dan is ironic because they are losing the beard. And I'm apologizing to 79 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,519 everyone for saying that. Uh yeah, that's that's a great point too. 80 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,800 I just look, that's the natural progression of this though, and it's unless 81 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,279 and I don't know what their pathway unless you're I think it's smart. So 82 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,480 Tires actually is gonna get paid regardless, and I know that I guess he 83 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:32,759 could technically risk injury and does that pull his value value down? But I 84 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:38,439 feel like some teams don't use restricted free agency aggressively enough, whereas, hey, 85 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,319 we're going to keep you, but we want to work. Capital is 86 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,279 gonna be thirteen million versus thirty five and a half. That's an extra like 87 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:48,319 twenty million dollars in wiggle room basically, And so if you want to have 88 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,879 cap space and you're thinking you're gonna flip hard in for mostly expiring contracts, 89 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:56,160 I think that's fair to do. I don't think it informs anything about what 90 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:59,959 their plans are for Maxie. But as you pointed out, other people point 91 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,360 you have pointed out. As other people pointed out, it also makes Maxe 92 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,720 easier to trade if he wanted to. But like, I don't know who 93 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,680 the player out there is that you would give up Tyrese Maxi for right now 94 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,120 to pair with it, honestly, Like unless would you trade Tyrese Maxie for 95 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:17,680 Damian Lillard. I guess in a vacuum you'd have to. Yeah, But 96 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,639 like it's so young and so good. It's like unless it's like Shay Gilges 97 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,600 Alexander's I know, maybe I'm overvaluing Maxie. I just I don't have a 98 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,759 problem with them waiting to rfa ism. Well that's the problem though, I 99 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,600 think I get it from the Sixers perspective. But if you're Maxie, you're 100 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,959 looking around Jordan Pool got paid, Tyler Hero got paid, Anthony Simon's got 101 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,639 paid. I'm in that group that we're all like you and I have done 102 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,439 it, Like, well, how do you rank these guys? You know, 103 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,759 these offense mainly offense, you know, undersized guards that can really score, 104 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Like I think we generally had Maxie at or near the top of that 105 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,920 list, Like he's he's got to be looking around thinking like you're telling me 106 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,639 these guys got their extensions and I'm not gonna get one. What went on? 107 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,240 Like just the vibes are bad with the Sixers and maybe we'll never have 108 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,279 to think about this again if they make a blockbuster trade and get way better 109 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,759 and add another superstar. But it's it's like, I don't know, I 110 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,920 don't I don't like the tone of things right now for Philly. I just 111 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,600 yeah, And so this is where do you land on this? I don't 112 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:18,160 think we got into the hardened debate, like enough of do you expect his 113 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,040 return, like the return to sort of be along the lines of a very 114 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:26,319 opt in in trade type scenario where it's if he got let's say, if 115 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:30,639 he gets sent to the Clippers, that it's just Roco Marcus Morris, and 116 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:33,439 then do you even get Terren's man as part, Like That's what I'm basically 117 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:38,519 asking is because normally in a situation, if he said he was gonna leave 118 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,319 anyway, and there are some people that have posited, well, no, 119 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:44,680 like he actually it wasn't like he didn't work this out with the Sixers. 120 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,480 He's the one that opted it on his own accord. That would change the 121 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,560 dynamic. But do you expect him to get Like, let me set the 122 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:53,920 over under on this, okay, is if or let's go buy team. 123 00:07:54,519 --> 00:07:58,560 If he goes to the Knicks, which well we should have conversation about how 124 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,519 bad of a fit he is with the Knicks. But if he went to 125 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,720 the Clippers, do they get do they get Terence Mann or a first round 126 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:07,319 pick in mat So? So that's the thing. And you wrote a piece 127 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:13,399 on this, so and I read it, and I can I interject storytime 128 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:20,120 we Someone sent me a sixteen hundred word email in response to that James Harten 129 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,439 article. I it was so mean. I didn't read all of it. 130 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:28,160 It was so nasty, incoherent, filled with typos. But I came away 131 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,840 just so envious. I want the free time to sit down and write a 132 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:39,519 sixteen hundred word rage induced response to somebody. I would never do it rage 133 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,960 field like that. But I was just looking at like I would never write 134 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:48,399 that many words for free, and I was just really I came away just 135 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,200 like, man, I don't really, I won't. I even forgot their 136 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,519 name. It was some dude. I became aware that's called like Jimbo. 137 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,759 I was like, man, I kind of wish I had Jimbo's life right 138 00:08:56,799 --> 00:08:58,600 now, like he was just able to sit here and write me a sixteen 139 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,039 hundred email. Well, first of all, your article probably wasn't sixteen hundred 140 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:11,360 words long, so jokes high end, So I this is kind of inside 141 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:15,240 baseball and but we're almost two hours in, So what the hell? Uh? 142 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,279 What even was incendiary about making up trade packages for James Harden, who 143 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,480 was like the most talked about. It's like every every every major outlet did 144 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,320 did something like what you did for for br We do we that's what we 145 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,200 do. We're going to hit the big story and give trade landing spots when 146 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:35,679 someone is potentially on the block or definitely on the block. Like what, 147 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,279 sorry, Kirk, I see your second comment. We will get to it. 148 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:45,440 We did already discuss it, thought we love it. So what was 149 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,600 I saying? Oh yeah, what was what was give me? Like? 150 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,360 Was it two incoherent to even like pinpoint a stream of thought or like, 151 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,879 because all you did was say, James Harden is probably getting traded. Here 152 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:01,200 are the packages, here's some options and of end of article. So his 153 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:09,440 premise was that he opted in to stay with the Sixers and was just so 154 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,679 and he was saying that this is Woads trying to make up for his faulty 155 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:16,240 reporting on Christmas. But I'm like, Whoades wasn't the only one. We 156 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,360 had Chris Haynes, we had Chalms, we had Mark Stein. Like, 157 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:26,000 this wasn't just one guy. So I was just I Normally I might have 158 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,600 responded like, oh, by the way, while you are, I mean, 159 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,399 you're why why o you apostrophar as you are? But I just I 160 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,159 deleted it. But I saw how many words it was. So I copy 161 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,320 and paste it into a word counter and I was like, wow, this 162 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,320 is over sixteen hundred words, and like what percentage of them were misspelled? 163 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Over under half? I don't I should go back in my draft and read 164 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,720 the whole thing. I will never do that, but you know what, 165 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,600 edit it, proof it, and send it back just with some notes. 166 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,279 Do that. Man. Craik is getting spicy in the chat. I mean 167 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,559 we talked about Trey Jones for like eight minutes before Tray Jones two years, 168 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,240 forty million dollars is an incredible deal. I think that's a That's probably my 169 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:11,200 favorite deal was we went through our least favorite deal. What's been your favorite 170 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,480 deal? So far. I think I said Tray Jones was one of my 171 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,799 favorites. I'm trying to think because I can't remember anything that happened more than 172 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,159 Brown from a team perspective, is the single best one. Tray Jones might 173 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,480 come close. Bruce Brown's really fun. Bruce Brown's a little more consequential than 174 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:31,000 Tray Jones from a team perspective. I just scrolled past the Middleton one, 175 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,039 and I think I'm surprised that all it took was about thirty a year to 176 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,679 keep him. So that's that's a good one. Yeah, I don't know, 177 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Maybe we should just hit some of the do some of the greatest hits 178 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:43,399 here. Yeah, Tray Jones for sure. And I think that he's so 179 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,919 young that he has the chance to get better, and so I just I 180 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,639 can't be worried about the three point shot because he's so good as a passer 181 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:54,360 and maintaining his dribble. Bruce Brown for sure. I mean, we don't 182 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,960 talk about minimums this way, but you to want an abby just at the 183 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 minimum. Yeah. I also can't believe I'm saying this, but the Kyrie 184 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:05,559 Irving deal is about as good as you could have expected for Dallas. Right, 185 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,600 is that a great You were shipping all over it. You're calling it 186 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:11,840 a great as hitting now I'm just thinking now, like you know, we're 187 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:15,960 about to hit hour too, because you're about like yah man at Kyrie irvingthing. 188 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,559 I know, I've like circled one hundred and eighty degrees back around so 189 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,879 well. I was just thinking, like, you know, we went through 190 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,759 what's this four year max and what's his five year max? And we're way 191 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:26,120 up into you know, two hundred plus million, and you can't commit and 192 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:31,279 this guy is unreliable. I believe all that to still be true. I 193 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,480 just think that they got it at three years, and they got it at 194 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:39,279 significantly less than his max, which like and they were stuck. They had 195 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,480 to bring him back. This was so first of all, the optimal situation 196 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,039 for Dallas is just having Dorian Finney Smith and Spencer dn Wading in that first 197 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,440 round or back like that. You'd rather have that than Kyrie Irving if I'm 198 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:56,519 running Dallas. So this is a good outcome from shitty circumstances of their own. 199 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:58,440 I guess maybe that's the way I'd frame it, because they could see 200 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,320 a scenario where they got spooked by the BS stuff about him meeting with all 201 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,759 these other teams that had no mechanism to acquire him. And you know, 202 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:09,120 okay, four years fine, or you know, four at your full max 203 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:13,840 or three even three at the full max. I think to come out with 204 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,679 not as many years as you needed or as you could have spent it could 205 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,600 have given him, and to have not spent as much as you possibly could 206 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:26,320 have even on annual basis not bad, not bad. I don't know. 207 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,720 Maybe it is the two hour mark though, so I don't know what. 208 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:33,000 I'm not even speaking English anymore. Yeah, Kirk one, thank you. 209 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,559 We I wasn't trolling you. It was just really funny that you would like 210 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,200 remember the comment. He it was a good signing. I'm who would you 211 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,679 rather? And it's not a problem anymore because he opted in James Harden versus 212 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:48,799 Kyrie Irving for three years and one hundred and twenty million dollars. Who's your 213 00:13:48,879 --> 00:14:01,440 preference? God damn it? Pass who would I rather have? I think 214 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:09,759 I'd probably rather have Kyrie age, Like I think Kyrie is still very much 215 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:15,600 capable of producing, you know, at as high a level as he's ever 216 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:20,120 produced at. And that's just not true. For Harden anymore, neither of 217 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,240 them. Kyrie's durability issues are massive. Kyrie has been to the finals and 218 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,519 won a title. His playoff numbers are better than Harden's. I think if 219 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:33,360 I got to choose, I'd take Kyrie, but like I also would just 220 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,519 not have Kyrie on my team full stop. I think if I had a 221 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,919 choice to make, so you've it's a tough question. Maybe this is the 222 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,399 ultimate best of bad options hypothetical. Where are you if you would you rather 223 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,960 have Kyrie or Harden? I think I'd rather have there's I would rather have 224 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,639 Kyrie. I think you're so convicted you're sure. Uh. Jake Fisher reporting 225 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,399 that from FK Retro the deal for Lopes the Rockets could exceed two years forty 226 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:05,480 million, which grant props to you. You would have said that they needed 227 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,120 twenty million. By the way, I feel like I might go Harden. 228 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,960 To start back to that question, I just like the passing is so much 229 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:18,720 better, and he's more reliable from a durability perspective and also a what's happening 230 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,919 off the court the playoffs is what gets me and Kyrie Irving is a little 231 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:28,399 more plug and play. But I think just Harden between like being able to 232 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,519 get rebounds and then and then his playmaking is just so next level to Kyrie's. 233 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:37,360 I think that's where it really and he's also just like, I don't 234 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:41,080 know, that's I think I'd rather have Harden, So you'd rather have Kyrie, 235 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,240 I'd rather have Hardened At that money, I don't think either of those 236 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:46,240 are like the most astute investments. But you know what it is with Kyrie 237 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,399 though, is he should be the easy answer, right, And the fact 238 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,279 that he's not probably speaks to why we're asking the question at all. Yeah, 239 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:58,519 good point. If there shouldn't be any any given age given playoff track 240 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,919 record, all this other stuff. So okay, So Brook Brook Lopez has 241 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,159 to like, as we just mentioned, Jake Fisher is talking about it might 242 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,000 exceed two for forty. Is there a number that the Rockets could sign Lopez 243 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,960 two on a two year deal where you'd say mistake, like, and what 244 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:21,679 is that number? Look, I mean, if you're gonna spend I mean 245 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,799 with all their gods, do you know who their highest paid player is right 246 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:30,559 now? Is it someone that's not on the team anymore? How Like? 247 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,559 Is it dead money? No, it's it's not. It's not dead. 248 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:37,480 It's not. It would have been John Wall if we're talking about last season, 249 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,120 but though it's someone who is on the team. Okay, this is 250 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,519 gonna be terrible dead air and I don't want to make you have to edit 251 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:47,480 this, which you won't because it's a live stream. I don't know. 252 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:53,519 Tell me Jaalen Green. Okay, million, So he's making nine point nine 253 00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:56,200 next year. So no, there's probably not a number that they could get 254 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,240 brook Lopez for two years? Do you have a number? And what should 255 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,240 should there be a level of concern of Okay, are they just out on 256 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:08,160 the Alpa and Shangun experience at this point? Yeah? Yeah, that that 257 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:14,240 would be a little disappointing for me. If it was two for fifty, 258 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:18,839 I would kind of I would be surprised. But I really do like brook 259 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Lopez, and I think I've said more than once on this pod. Although 260 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:25,359 again I can't remember that there's almost no such thing as a bad two year 261 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,440 deal. So uh, you know, I I'm twenty five a year for 262 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,880 brook Lopez. At how old is he? Is? He thirty six? 263 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,559 Okay, thirty five? That's yeah, I don't know. I might still 264 00:17:40,839 --> 00:17:44,039 I might still do that. This is what we're doing is making the case 265 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:47,799 for why brook Lopez may not be back in Milwaukee, because why wouldn't Houston 266 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,880 do that. It's just money. They got plenty of it. I just 267 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,519 so here's my other thing, though, is he he helped your defense. 268 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:59,799 He gives you a base defense. And I don't think it's Bucks specific, 269 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,920 because we saw in the minutes without Jannis, without Drew last year he was 270 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,240 able to hold it down. But it's also like, and he can create 271 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,599 for himself, but can we get an offensive organizer in there? I really 272 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,079 like, Yeah, I want to see Jalen Green and a Men Thompson get 273 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,519 touches, but you've got to turn around and get if you what's more likely? 274 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:21,599 Well, no, it's that's a dumb question. But it's like, 275 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:26,440 if you're gonna give brook Lopez that money, was Harden just traded what no 276 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,920 Blown said hardened to the Clippers? Where are you seeing that? I mean, 277 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,920 we knew they were the favorites. I'm not seeing anything on Harden. 278 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,039 I think that's gonna happen. We've we keep like touching on it then and 279 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:42,480 then getting diverted. I gotta stop, you know, people who are breaking 280 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:45,039 news in the comments. I gotta stop throwing it up on screen like a 281 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:49,359 confirm it. They're probably people watching like harder than quippers, like watch this, 282 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,519 watch this little look. I bet I can get her to talk about 283 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,720 this made up thing for seven minutes. We will, don't try us. 284 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,319 I guess at least Filly, you were like open about what it wants to 285 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:06,279 troll. I just know I hold on make it. What's your question about 286 00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:08,839 the Rockets because I want to talk about hardened trade packages. That was just 287 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:12,720 like I don't think this makes you less likely to do the Lopez deal, 288 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,960 is what I'm getting at. But you do need some type of a point 289 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:18,640 guard in here. I mean I can't even think of one that's like, 290 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,240 oh, maybe they're making too much money and the Rockets just take him on. 291 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,720 And by the way, the Rocket team to spend like fifty million to 292 00:19:25,759 --> 00:19:29,039 even get to the salary for which they have to do, so like what 293 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,160 are we? Who is the like are they the Austin Reeves team? Like 294 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,480 who there's gotta be? I don't I know you don't want to spend much 295 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:37,480 other I was like, who is the guy out there? Aside from Lopez, 296 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:42,240 that's gonna get their money if it's not Van Vleet. I mean Dylan 297 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:47,200 Brooks three for ninety right right, I keep Oh my god, No, 298 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:52,000 I don't know. I'm just kidding literally anybody, they'll just yeah, the 299 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:53,880 whole the new rule about you got to get up to that minimum number, 300 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,960 like that's gonna just do some wild spinning. It's it's a weird like leverage 301 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,279 creator for for certain free agents, just like Lopez, where you know he 302 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,480 can go back to the Bucks and say like, hey, these guys are 303 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:10,880 nuts, they're gonna spend They're gonna give me like twenty seven million a year. 304 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,920 What do you got, Bucks? And then it's just I don't know 305 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,680 what they say to that. I agree that Houston does need a point, 306 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,160 but continue before you go, before you go to Harden. I'm just laughing, 307 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,480 like, and this is I understand how the sausage is made. But 308 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,279 the rush to get out photoshops of Gabe Vincent and and Anthony like alongside every 309 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:36,400 day with a lebron the Lakers jersey is just like Gabe Vincon is maybe like 310 00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:42,200 a top one hundred and fifty NBA player, like you you know how to 311 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,720 do that? Like, how long does that take? If you're photoshopping Gabe 312 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:49,880 Vincent onto the Lakers? Can you do that in ten minutes? I can't. 313 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,480 I can't do that, Okay. I just I'm because it's like it's 314 00:20:56,519 --> 00:21:00,960 just funny because it's the Lakers. I understand it, but I'm just like, 315 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,440 all right, I want to I want to. I want to talk 316 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,039 about the hardened thing. Do you want to talk about Herb Jones? Get? 317 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:10,200 Yeah, I didn't. We're gonna get side tracked again. Four for 318 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,920 fifty four. Terrific deal. We love Herb Jones. He's one of the 319 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,359 best wing defenders in the league. If he learns to shoot, he's like 320 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:19,359 mcel bridge is light without the shock creation. Four fifty four okay with you? 321 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,799 What does that make him like Jeremy Grant that I don't know. Oh 322 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,519 man, that's a good deal, right, Four for fifty four for Herb 323 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Jones. Yeah, yeah, I think. Look, I'm more concerned about 324 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,519 his shooting than I think and Fred Vincent's in New Orleans, so that helps. 325 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:37,640 But I'm more concerned about his shooting than a lot of Pelkins fans, 326 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,759 just because even his higher moments have come on such low volume, but I'd 327 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:45,160 like that four for fifty four. That's like, that's someone who could make 328 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,200 all defense in all four of those seasons. Yep. Agree, Okay, 329 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:55,559 real quick, before we get sidetracked again, and let's see, let's do 330 00:21:55,759 --> 00:22:02,160 I'm I'm for twenty minutes or so. You wrote the hardened thing. You 331 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,640 so you've covered several trade packages for him, and you've asked me, and 332 00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:10,839 we got sidetracked, like what actually is the market value? What? So 333 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,680 in going through all the package you had several for the clip, more than 334 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440 one for the clippers, you had a Knicks package, you had, you 335 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:22,799 had several others. What do you think you're gonna get more than kind of 336 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,160 six seventh eighth men and a pick or two? Or can you get like 337 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,559 is the Paul George thing realistic? It's something you know, because I just 338 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,720 look at the spectrum of like, oh that could happen deals and it's really 339 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:42,079 broad and I feel kind of like untethered to reality on what Harden's market value 340 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,559 is right now, So you did the research, You've thought about this more. 341 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:51,039 You're better at coming up with trade scenarios than I am. My instinct 342 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:56,400 before I give it to you is that I think Harden's market is probably not 343 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,759 as the Sixers hope and as other people might expect because of his age, 344 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,279 because all the stuff we just shipped on him when we picked Kyrie over and 345 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,640 really cited. So what is your what is your best guests in terms of 346 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,680 like the best asset you're getting back or assets in a hardened trade package. 347 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:18,200 I think it's I think it's like Terren's man or if it's to Miami for 348 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:22,359 picks. I just I don't And I also don't see like the theory of 349 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,640 Tyler hero on the Sixers doesn't make sense with Tyree's Maxie there, right, 350 00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:32,039 And I honestly don't know because I understand why Sixers fans want Paul George, 351 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,039 but I almost wonder, like, are the Sixers the team that would need 352 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:37,480 to attach assets in that deal? And if you're the Clippers, And I 353 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,119 swear I'm not trolling here, and this really isn't a hot take the theory. 354 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,599 And I don't say why I'm saying the theory so much, but this 355 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:51,279 concept of getting James Harden, it makes to me a lot less sense if 356 00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:56,440 Paul George isn't there, because Kauai is just so much more like he hasn't 357 00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:59,920 and I Paul George has had his injury concerns, but like Kawai's actually battling 358 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,039 what seems like degenerative lower body issues and so like even though he's playing, 359 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:07,640 he played like eighteen hundred minutes last year, like not being able to make 360 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,799 it through the postseason. If you were the Clippers and one, I think 361 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:15,960 the main appeal is your parent James Harden with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, 362 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,079 and so that's why I would expect to return to be less. Maybe maybe 363 00:24:18,079 --> 00:24:21,160 it ends up being more in the sense of, oh, they got Terrence 364 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,119 Man, and I think the Clippers can offer picks in twenty eight and thirty, 365 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,559 So maybe if they get Terrence Mann in a pick or both picks or 366 00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:30,240 whatever. But I just I struggled to see them moving one of their stars 367 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,839 if they had to, though, as part of this deal, would you 368 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:38,839 prefer, as the Clippers to move Paul George or Kawhi Leonard. Well, 369 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:44,079 I know where you come down on this because I read the article. I 370 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,240 think if I'm the Clippers, I would still rather trade Paul George than Kawhi 371 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,079 Leonard. I'm not sure i'd do it for either of them. Honestly, 372 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,079 I think I probably would not trade either of those guys for James Harden. 373 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,680 I think I would rather trade George only because Kawhi Leonard's AP plus version of 374 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,680 himself is better than Paul George's A plus version of himself. And I don't 375 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,359 think we're getting high volume from either of them. So if it's only about 376 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,759 next year, I'm just taking the guy with the higher ceiling. And that's 377 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:15,160 quiet for me. But it is like a legit question. Yeah, and 378 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,519 so I'm just I expect him to kind of end up at the Clippers at 379 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,559 this point, But is there like, is there any dark Let's talk about 380 00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:25,079 the Knicks. They're just linked whenever a star players available. I feel like, 381 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,720 not as aggressively as they used to be. I just I don't love 382 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:30,880 And then I was talking with a friend of the podcast, Brian to Poorrek, 383 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,160 the Sixers don't want Julius Randall, and so if you Julius Randall, 384 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,200 John Brunson, and James hard on the same team, like, that's just 385 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,359 that doesn't make any sense to me. And so I would be shocked if 386 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,240 he ended up there. And so your thoughts on you his fit with the 387 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,880 Knicks, and then are there any just okay, maybe not, Oh, 388 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,240 the Sixers just traded him anywhere. Because also while some teams might acquire a 389 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,440 player without his approval of James Harn's caliber, James Hard is not one of 390 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,480 those players, because we've seen that he will, he will slow foot his 391 00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,200 way. He won't. It won't be that he won't player won't report, 392 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,880 he will show up and just be got off bul So I don't I kind 393 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:14,559 of hate the fit of Harden on the Knicks. I think there's a reasonable 394 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:17,279 case to be made that, like as soon as next year, you just 395 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:21,960 rather have Jalen Brunson in that role than Harden. And I think he is 396 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,400 kind of duplicative with Brunson. I think the fit with Randall, as you 397 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,240 said, is I hate it. I just I just don't. I don't, 398 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,440 I don't see it. The weirdest thing is the more we talk about 399 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:40,000 this and we all agree I think that, and it's fairly well proven out 400 00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:44,079 that the Houston stuff was purely leverage, or it seems that way. Of 401 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,960 all the teams out there where Harden could land, we just said Houston needs 402 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,680 an offensive organizer and a point guard, like are we coming all there? 403 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,319 We galaxy brain all the way back around to it kind of makes sense for 404 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,759 him in Houston now, certainly not from from a financial perspective if if you 405 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,079 know, he plays this year and then they give him a ton of money 406 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,240 next offseason. But like, I don't like I don't like the Clippers fit. 407 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,920 First of all, I don't like the Knicks fit. I don't of 408 00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:12,519 the Miami like good luck, he's not going to be in shape that like 409 00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:17,000 they want guys to be in shape down there. Jimmy Butler though, would 410 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,160 be just that's a disaster waiting to happen behind the scenes. I feel it 411 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,839 would be a real test of well, how about this, do you like 412 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,400 the Miami fit better than the Clippers or the Knicks for Harden, We'll just 413 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,160 throw Houston out because that was ridiculous. But well, actually let's circle back 414 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,680 to the Rockets. Were like, it's this is worse than Winder would be 415 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,759 though, what is Houston not doing right now? Type deal? So I 416 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,519 thought about it. I thought about this, and it's just because they don't 417 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:49,480 really have like salary that they don't necessarily want. But like, could this 418 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,240 have been James Harden opstion. So you get him at a cheaper number, 419 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:57,440 which allows you to spend more money on other free agents, and then you 420 00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:03,119 can still take in maybe save Philly money, but you're still sending out money. 421 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,720 So it's like, I'll frame it this way. James Harden at thirty 422 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:11,480 five million dollars and let's say you're sending out Jay Shawn Tate is making six 423 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,839 and wow, he was declining. That was pretty good deal for Houston. 424 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,519 Jay Shawn Tate at six and a half. And I mean, you could 425 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:19,920 send out Kevin Porter Junior if you wanted to. I don't know Ifilly wanted 426 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,519 him, but like, if you were sending out ten million dollars in salary, 427 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:30,039 that's really a twenty five million dollars offset. That's a lot less than 428 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,759 forty seven just flat out giving it to Harden. And so could the thought 429 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:40,200 process have been the reporting suggests it wasn't. They said Houston had moved one. 430 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,559 Could the thought process have been, we'll get hardened for cheaper, We'll 431 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,839 give up actual players or maybe a pick to do it, and then this 432 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,359 allows us to sign Brook Lopez and then maybe someone else and still get hardened 433 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:55,279 and that team is a lot more coherent, and like I don't and you 434 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,799 could do, You could do some fucking wild stuff. If Philly agreed to 435 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:03,720 take on Kevin Porter Junior's it could basically be an expiring contract because that's eighteen 436 00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:07,640 million right there, and let's I'm assuming you would you'd be willing to include 437 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,920 Jay Shawn Tate. That's like twenty five million. It's like, then you 438 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,559 only need ten million in cap space to get James Harden. And if you're 439 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,079 Houston to facilitate that, I would definitely be pushing for like you need to 440 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,079 give us tarason or you need to get us some like first round equity. 441 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:25,279 But I'm just could that be a possibility, or like you said, if 442 00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,920 we just fully galaxy brain this shit, it's a little bit of Galaxy brain. 443 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,759 But you sort of have talked me into it because the idea of Harden 444 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,759 there for I mean, it's not like technically correct to think of it in 445 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:38,400 this way, but for like as like a twenty five million dollar player more 446 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,839 or less in terms of like what he's doing to your cap versus signing him 447 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:49,079 in free agency for a massive number, like he does fill a need if 448 00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:55,279 you combine him with like Brook Lopez and maybe a wing like we keep saying 449 00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:59,400 Dylan Brooks like half jokingly, but you could probably make all that a lot 450 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,400 more sensible if you also have Lopez and Harden. There can the spacetime continuum 451 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:10,480 handle Dylan Brooks and James Harden on the same team. I mean, I 452 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,920 don't know. I just don't know. Are we are we really gonna just 453 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:17,720 do this? Are we gonna? First of all, if this happens and 454 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:22,680 you've called it by just you know, arriving at this crazy James Harden full 455 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,799 circle thing, I would be super impressed. But I will say an hour 456 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,759 two plus of this pod hard into the rockets makes more sense today than it 457 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:34,240 ever has in my brain. I just, man, do you how much 458 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:40,680 do you think he would infringe upon the development of amen Thompson engine or I 459 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,400 don't want to say in friends, that's not fair. Do you think he 460 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,079 would elevate it in any way? Maybe for Green, but I would Jabari 461 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,640 Smith Junior for someone who could just spoon feed him stuff getting going downhill. 462 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:55,119 But like it feels very much. I know not development doesn't always need to 463 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 be high volume trial by fire, but I'm just wondering, does James Harden 464 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,200 make the life of ament it's an easier or more difficult. And maybe it's 465 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,319 individually he could make it easier for everyone, But when you start putting all 466 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,839 those pieces together, does it make it a little too like sort of you 467 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,759 know, like difficult. I think I don't. I think this is the 468 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:18,759 part of my thinking on hardened to Houston that probably hasn't changed, which is 469 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,799 that for such a young roster, he's not going to be helpful. And 470 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,519 that's not just on the floor, because like it seems like part of the 471 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,200 reason Harden doesn't want to be in Philly anymore. There have been several reported 472 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,119 reasons, but one of them is that he doesn't want to He wants to 473 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,240 play like he used to write. I mean, that's that's oversimplifying it. 474 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:40,200 But he wants to doesn't want to be like a quote unquote point guard. 475 00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:42,640 He wants he wants to be the ball dominant, leading scorer type of guy. 476 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240 I think, so all these young guys are gonna have to play a 477 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,960 pretty specific way to fit around him. And I don't know that that's you 478 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,160 know, I mean, I do know that that's not probably not the best 479 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,359 thing for their development, and then off court happened like that's and the special 480 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,079 treatment and he might get there could just sort of make it a weird fit. 481 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,960 So I do think it's more he does more harm than good to the 482 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,519 young guys there. But if you're just like in Houston, may operate this 483 00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:09,880 way. They're saying, screw it, let's go get you know, three 484 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,440 high priced veterans. I mean, they're they're already marginalizing the young guys anyway, 485 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,519 so so maybe that doesn't matter as much. Yeah, I'm just I 486 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:22,960 almost do you expect Brook Lopez to go there now? Based off how long 487 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,359 it's taken to figure and like, what does Milwaukee do? I know you 488 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,359 have poured us and you could downsize with Janniss the lone big if you really 489 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,160 wanted to. But that's a really that that's a huge loss right as of 490 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,400 right now, I would say the biggest loss without we haven't seen everything. 491 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:42,400 Bruce Brown leaving the Nuggets probably feels like the biggest net like negative for a 492 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,880 team. Yeah, that's a good one. We haven't talked about that. 493 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,720 I think I think it's Bruce Brown now, but Lopez would be by far 494 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,039 the biggest loss because like otherwise you're talking about Struce Vincent, I mean Jeremy 495 00:32:53,119 --> 00:33:00,240 Grant resigned because so And to answer your original question, I think every second 496 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,559 that goes by that we don't see brook Lopez has agreed to resign with the 497 00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:06,960 Bucks makes it way less likely that he's going to be back. Uh. 498 00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,559 And we've also talked about just Houston has all this money, we'll get ooh 499 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:17,680 interesting Josh richardson reunion. Yes, but so I think the upside is maybe 500 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,599 we get Yannas at center like full time, which I think some of the 501 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,640 numbers have shown are is kind of iffy. But you know, if you 502 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,599 flash back to like four years ago, that's all any of us were clamoring 503 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960 for is just like, oh, just just make them the five. This 504 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,160 is the way of the future. That would be interesting. But I would 505 00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:38,240 also say that the Bucks are they fall out of the like top flight contender 506 00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:43,079 tier. I think if brook Lopez leaves for nothing right like that's it. 507 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,519 That's not overstating it to me, because he is that integral to what they 508 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,519 do on both ends. I think, no, you're I think you're one 509 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,640 hundred percent right, because now it's all of a sudden Okay, you kind 510 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,279 of maybe you had them in the same league as Boston for sure, and 511 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,079 then if you lose Book Lopez, I don't know, blown said Yanna at 512 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:01,440 Centory got exposed by the Celtics in twenty and twenty two. Yeah, but 513 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,000 you know what, I guess they still Forford and Robert Williams a third. 514 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,440 But like now that Chris Stops is there, that changes a bunch of stuff 515 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,079 too. I think it gives them a little bit more weak points to attack 516 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:13,800 in terms of the lack of the hands of versatility. Yeah, but Boston 517 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,280 would very clearly have to be above Milwaukee. And then it's okay, well 518 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,800 they're above Philly, assume because they're presuming James Harden And then it's would you 519 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,199 have them above if the Josh Richardson deal from Miami by the way two years 520 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Like, that's okay, you lost gave Benson, got Josh Richardson, but 521 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,440 that's gonna help you, Like defensively, I would say that's probably a upgrade. 522 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,800 Defensively, I what would be the teams that are better than the Bucks 523 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,320 in the East? For sure? If they lose Brook Lopez is it's still 524 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,639 only just Boston. I don't know about for sure, but you'd have to 525 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:49,760 think about Cleveland. They've gotten better and their prime for more organic growth than 526 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,719 almost any other team we're gonna talk about. The Heat are probably there too, 527 00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:58,360 right, I mean they just made freaking finals. But as as and 528 00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,000 and so the Richardson, yeah, I mean they fall into that mess, 529 00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:05,159 right, the Bucks do. I think you might have them a little bit 530 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,199 above. You probably have them above the Knicks. You probably have them above 531 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,039 Brooklyn. You probably have above Toronto, Chicago. I'm sure I'm forgetting some, 532 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,159 but yeah, below, I mean that's that would be the biggest loss 533 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:20,559 so far. I think if if Lopez doesn't resign with Milwaukee, I feel 534 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:23,440 pretty good saying that. So you have a few more minutes left, and 535 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,639 then we do have a friend in the podcast I'm gonna get to jump on 536 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,159 to talk about hard into poor k is gonna come. Basically, I think, 537 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:30,920 as you leave, but I can go solo for a little bit, 538 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,719 so feel free to hop off whenever. But let's go through someone just to 539 00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,320 like to put a bow on our discussion looking at the best worst deals, 540 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,960 Like if we want to nominate one each, So what is your best deal 541 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:50,159 of NBA free agency so far, m my best deal or even two each? 542 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:57,760 So mean Alexander Walker, No, I think, hey, well, 543 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,760 I'm sure I reserve the to just copy you if you mentioned something that I 544 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:08,840 forgot because the first then I think so far the best deal is like from 545 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,000 its Bruce Brown. It's a huge number at twenty million of pop essentially, 546 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:21,920 but it's for one guaranteed year yah to give you rim pressure of multi position 547 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,039 defense. He can't defend like a every single wing, but like he's going 548 00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:28,920 to help you there secondary ball handling, and I think, look, his 549 00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:31,599 his three point clip dropped last year, but he's shown that he can hit 550 00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:37,440 set jumpers at like a fairly okay clip for long stretches. That's just a 551 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:43,800 big sort of needle moving win for the Pacers. Yeah, I agree with 552 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,320 that one that I think we probably are over an hour ago said said that 553 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,440 that was way up there. I like the Trey Jones deal two for twenty, 554 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:53,960 I think, and if we want to go slightly less consequential, I 555 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,119 think we both agree that obvious for the minimum is I don't know if there's 556 00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:02,119 going to be a better man I'm signing this offseason. Do you have another 557 00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:06,599 to add or would you like to nominate your worst? I already said Kuzma 558 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,239 was my most surprising. What's your worst? I'm trying. I'm trying to 559 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,239 think there's like another good deal though that I really liked, because I feel 560 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,039 like there were I feel like there's one that maybe forgetting. There's just been 561 00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:19,639 so much happening and we've just like, oh, you know, what's a 562 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,880 really good deal. He was a free agent, to be fair, Herb 563 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,440 Jones four years of fifty four million to get one of the best defenders in 564 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,280 the NBA. And look, it's not just if his three point shot comes 565 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,280 along, let's say a higher volume rather than accuracy. It's also you just 566 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,599 made him infinitely more tradeable once he's eligible because that number is higher. So 567 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,119 now you could just make Herb Jones or Miles Turner straight up trade proposals eventually, 568 00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,880 if you really wanted to standing out. Is my worst deal, the 569 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,599 single worst contract that will probably be given out this summer. The full mL 570 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,760 for Reggie Jackson from the Denver Nuggets with a player option, not one year, 571 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:01,719 two stop the rent. It's not an mL it was it was two 572 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,639 for ten point five. Is the bi annual, Right, well, I 573 00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:07,639 don't care. It can't be the biannual because they would hard tap themselves so 574 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,960 to two with a player option, even if it was a team option or 575 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:19,119 just the one year two Like with the player option, what are we doing 576 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,280 here? My god? Yeah, that's really bad. I'll agree. I 577 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,559 agree with that. I also like it, I think Vukovich. I mean, 578 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,199 you know, three for sixty not a sticker shock situation, but just 579 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,519 as an indication of what Chicago's plans are. It just makes me sad. 580 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,960 So I think that one gets at least an honorable mention. Is the worst 581 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,719 deal for me or my least favorite? Maybe is a better way at Florida 582 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,920 eighty is a lot considering Toronto is crummy spacing to begin with as well, 583 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,119 so that might be up there for me. And where do we land on 584 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,159 the Jeremy Grant deal? Oh, it's just way too long and it's way 585 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,559 too much, and I can't imagine he had that kind of leverage that Those 586 00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,000 those are the ones that you know, as we get further away, you 587 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:05,320 know, a year or two from now, we're going to look back and 588 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,559 say, like, who was offering four for one? Whatever? It would 589 00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:12,480 have been twenty or one thirty, and I don't know how many teams there 590 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,559 would have been that we're doing that so that and if you know what, 591 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,199 if we get reporting that says like Portland had to do the fifth year to 592 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,639 keep him, they had to just they had to go there, then it's 593 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:28,400 probably a case where you should just cut bait well plus bigger, bigger picture, 594 00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:30,559 just trade Dame. We stop, stop with this nonsense of trying to 595 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:35,920 build a contender around him. Well, so rank these four deals for me 596 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,880 as trade assets. Then once they're eligible this docca Peartle at four for eighty, 597 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,320 Nakola Vukovich at three for sixty, Jeremy Grant at five for one and 598 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,519 sixty, which I will know, we still don't know whether that's fully guaranteed. 599 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,920 And then Kyle Kuzma at four for one oh two. All right, 600 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,320 I think probably the most tradeable at that number. I'm sorry, who would 601 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,559 you have at number one? Kuzma I think is probably the most tradable at 602 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:10,280 that number. I think I think Peurtle might be the least tradable, just 603 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,880 because that's a lot. But I already said I didn't hate that one. 604 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,840 I think I'm gonna say Grant is probably the least tradable at that number. 605 00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:24,639 I just I'm trying to be consistent because I have for several months now said 606 00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:28,679 that that's just he's not He hasn't proved that he's worth, you know, 607 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,119 the kind of money that Portland is talking about paying him, and then they 608 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:35,280 paid him more than expected, and then you could I guess I'd put Peurtle 609 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,159 ahead of Vukovich there, but I think Kuzma stands out Kuzma. Kuzma is 610 00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:43,840 someone they could definitely move at that number. So you have Kuzma one. 611 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,119 Yeah, I'm gonna go too. I'm gonna say I have to say Peurtles 612 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,199 too, because I already said that I like that better than Voochevich. So 613 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,559 Booch Booch three, and then Jeremy Grant four. I think I would have 614 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:04,039 Peartle four Voots three, just because of the shorter term deal, Jeremy Grant 615 00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:08,119 two and Kyle Kuzma one. Jeremy Grants is so plugging play and so now 616 00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,400 that he has his money, you don't really have to worry about him. 617 00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:16,320 Maybe not. He's not gonna leave shortly, so he's not gonna maybe balk 618 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,119 at a role and look, by the way, if he's staying in Phoenix, 619 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,280 he has to understand that between Dame Shaden Sharp Scoot Henderson, like he's 620 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,599 being nudged down at some point option number three r than option number two and 621 00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,800 he was optioned Afrety Simons is still there. Man. That team is getting 622 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,000 clunky. It's been clunky, that's the problem. And they're just bringing it 623 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,800 back four for seventy five, two year, seventy five million for Ubrey and 624 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,519 Houston if all the other deals fall through. By the way, that he 625 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,760 got Josh Richardson for the minimum, what that's really good? Right? Do 626 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,960 I need to do the hands to the head thing. Yeah, I mean, 627 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:57,320 like he's been inconsistent, but he's he's a five million plus million a 628 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,800 year at least. I mean, if if someone had signed him for the 629 00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,360 xpairs mid level, we wouldn't have batted an eye full. Mid level would 630 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,000 have been kind of a lot. But I can't believe they got him for 631 00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,159 the minimum. That immediately is is that's right up there is one of the 632 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:15,239 best value signings, right, that's great value we had someone. I can't 633 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,920 see the comment right now, or maybe I could, but said that Josh 634 00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:22,719 Richardson is so washed. Oh bro, Josh Richerson is so asked man, 635 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,559 No, I just don't. He's not that bad. Like that's someone who 636 00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:29,519 could defend close to one through four depending on who the power forward is. 637 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,079 And he's probably a little bit too like off the dribble happy sometimes, but 638 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,159 for the minimum well, plus, the best version of Josh Richardson was in 639 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,000 Miami, as is the case for all best versions of all players. So 640 00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:42,760 he's going back. I mean, he's he's gonna play better than he did 641 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,679 the last couple of years. Like I feel like that's a lock. I 642 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,199 mean maybe that's part of this is like career rehab, right. Yeah. 643 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,679 They also got Kevin Love on a two year deal with a player option. 644 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:58,199 That seems like it's gonna be for the minimum man. When they get there, 645 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,480 when they get that third star in there, which is inevitable, it's 646 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,480 gonna look like a pretty good roster. To me, it's just like, 647 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,199 is it a little bit we already went through this. I need to see 648 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,440 the and that's what I wanted to mention before this will be the last thing 649 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,840 I promise that you can leave. Apparently the Spurs are coming in as a 650 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,800 third team in a Max strew sign and trade, And so I'm wondering, 651 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:22,039 if I guess the point there is they'll absorb salary so that Miami can create 652 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,800 a bigger trade exception and maybe then have more flexibility under whatever apron they are 653 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,400 going to be. That's like it's already happening. They're setting up for what 654 00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:36,760 though, I jasnerd like they I don't know if you're not gonna take on 655 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,440 any money to send out. I guess the trade exception helps, but that 656 00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:44,360 doesn't is there and there's no pick If it's pick equity, it's gonna be 657 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,880 seconds coming from Cleveland for Strews. I'm very curious to see what Miami is 658 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,199 kind of doing. Like I think, like from Miami's perspective, if it's 659 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,480 Jetty Osman and o'korro and we have no idea what it is yet, by 660 00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:02,000 the way, I think I would prefer that to just getting anything. Well, 661 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,280 I mean, what could what is their scenario where they just get the 662 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,800 trade exception of that size or bigger like of Strews of the scau they were 663 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,800 just they were just dead. Max Strews to Cleveland while San Antonio. It 664 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,320 takes like whatever money Cleveland needs to send out, and then you just have 665 00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:22,000 this what sixteen million dollars trade exception, which is ye, but I just 666 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:24,840 you know, if you're gonna be working within the apron comfines anyway, Like 667 00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:29,480 how big is that sixteen million dollars trade exception anyway? Yeah? Yeah, 668 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,199 it needs to be bigger than that to to really matter. I don't know, 669 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,960 there's not a lot of players you'd call difference you know, real like 670 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,079 this again, this is a team that wants to win titles. You's got 671 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,880 to be a massive difference maker. Sixteen millions not getting you that? Maybe 672 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,559 a science trade destination for Van Vleet or is that just getting too many like 673 00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:49,519 former raptors. If well, I mean they then they'd be hardcapped and then 674 00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:53,440 they're what I'm saying, is that why they're dumping all his money? Maybe 675 00:44:53,840 --> 00:45:01,960 I mean not more. If you're gonna give me thirty plus, I guess 676 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,800 you could wave and stretch Kyle Lowry, which I think is a terrible decision 677 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,599 with the one year left on his deal. Yeah that he feels like the 678 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:12,199 guy you give up with two picks attached to get a lesser player or a 679 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,679 guy with a longer deal at that number. Maybe yeah, I don't know. 680 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,360 Nothing else is happening, though, so you cans cadattle. I'm gonna 681 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,360 wait for Brian Tupori come out to talk James Harden for a little bit and 682 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:30,079 see if anything else happens. I'm this was great. We're not going to 683 00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:32,039 take us out of here because this is like because I might put this up 684 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:37,119 in publish like eight podcasts or the people on the audio feed. What are 685 00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:40,039 you surprised as you leave? Was this about as active as you expected it 686 00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:43,519 to be in the first two and a half hours or a little bit less? 687 00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:49,519 Or I thought we'd see a big trade announced because wasn't. Well, 688 00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:52,039 I guess this is a Kevin Durant trade demand or initial trade request that kind 689 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:58,199 of ruined the dawn of free agency last year. So so I would have 690 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,079 liked to have had that kind of curveball thrown, but we didn't get it. 691 00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:05,199 I wish I could. I'm gonna send you a meme when as you're 692 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,880 off air that I just giggled that with Kyle Kuzma Jordan, but this was 693 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,719 great. Hopefully I won't be pestering you at all as you enjoy your July 694 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,760 fourth weekend with any emergency trade podcast. I don't even know. If I 695 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,440 adn't get traded the Clippers, would I even need, Like, would we 696 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,360 even need to have one? I guess I would still jump on, but 697 00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:29,480 just send the text and if i'm if I'm mid like, what makes us 698 00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,599 have more to say than we already did? Well, that's it's hard. 699 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,840 Well, that's the thing about podcasting, Dan, You just keep talking even 700 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,239 when you've already said everything you have to say. That's how it works. 701 00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:42,559 Well, Grant, I'll talk to you soon. Thanks for this, Thank 702 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,199 you the family, Thanks commenters. You guys are the best. See you 703 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:45,639 later, guys,