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at you being so official and if
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what I'm trying to do. Good
time for Gabbin. No, I'm got

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a special guest today. We do
have a special guest today. That special

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guest is not Jake. We told
Jake there's only three chairs on the set

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and if someone's leaving, it's you, buddy, And he protested, well,

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he actually had to serve his term
in the IDEF. Yes, he

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is finally serving in the Idea.
Well, he just volunteered to do it

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again again. He saw Galgado be
very passionate about Israel. The kind of

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motivated him to go to go again. Yeah, so he's serving in the

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Idea for another week. I think
he'll be back next week. He uses

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a lot of vacation time to do
IDEF stuff. But instead of Jake,

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we have a very special guest,
a movie star from a number of films,

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including a number of historical or like
recent historical films. He's in Thirteen

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Hours, he's in Captain Phillips,
he's in The Great Raid, and most

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importantly of all, for me,
because it's my favorite movie that's ever been

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made. I didn't actually want to
tell you this because I do want to

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seem like a fan girl all day. But saving Private Ryan, But now

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he's gonna put you on the spot. Yea, we got Max Martini here.

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Wow, what an intro. Thank
you. It's happy to have you,

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so hyped to have you. Thanks
man. Good to be here.

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Yeah, you've been here all day
and I still you know, fanboy out

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with the with the Private Ryan because
that that was epic for me, probably

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highlight of my career. You were
just in like a murderers row of like

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I feel like you check a lot
of Hollywood boxes, like working with Spielberg

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really every yeah, I know,
yeah, early like out of the gate.

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Yeah, yeah, it's kind of
nice. How long you've been acting

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with you? We early thirties,
late twenties in that movie, Oh my

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god, let's see, I was
in my twenties. Um. It was

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the second big film that I did. I did a movie called Contact,

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Oh yeah, with Jodie Foster.
First I was going through your IMDb trying

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to pick out which films to highlight. Now, I gotta stick with roughly

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the historical films because obviously there's fifty
shades and yeah, yeah, we don't

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talk about that that's not historically accurate
or well the way I just realized,

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I'm during Nicelobe Ultra on camera,
which is uh, it's a beer for

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that's what it is. Exactly,
yeah, exactly. People just they're gonna

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think you're a cyclist. That's right, It's fine. Whatever gets John running

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your half marathon cooling down with a
nice not a sponsor. By the way,

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I wish that would be amazing.
They have they have buckets of money.

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Uh. At my wedding, they
we had like we got I told

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you earlier. I get married New
Orleans. I get married at the Royal

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like in the French Quarter or whatever, the hotel, and uh, we

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get you have money, Like,
well why not me? Uh? But

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they're like, okay, so you're
gonna have a little waiter. He's just

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yours for the wedding. You're and
your wife's okay, he's gonna be your

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attendant for the whole wedding, and
he'll bring you whatever he sees. You

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don't have a beer or drink or
whatever, he'll bring you a drink and

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so what do you want him?
Just to make it easy, you don't

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have to re order every time what
was your beer of choice based on the

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menu from the bar or whatever?
And I don't really drink mick ultra.

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But I was like, man,
this is gonna be a long fucking day,

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and I probably shouldn't black out at
my wedding, right, but I'm

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gonna be like a little socially anxious
because I got to talk to a million

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people. So I was like,
if I'm gonna drink a lot of beers,

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I was like, just give me
the four percent of Mick Alters all

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night. Yeah, that's to drink
a thousand. What he didn't say about

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the stories, I was the beer
boy. Actually he hired me to be

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you were the guy. He was
just like a buddy hiring a friend.

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Yeah, and that still didn't pay. We just give m a meal.

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That's a good buddy, by the
way. Yeah. No, I actually

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shot his uh rehearsal dinner and we
were broke. So I was like,

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I can't pay you, but do
you just want I know you're so poor

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that you're not gonna be able to
afford to eat in New Orleans every night,

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So would you like to just eat
at the rehearsal dinner? Like you

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can just be a rehearsaled because you
wouldn't have made the cut otherwise. He

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was not a fan of the final
product though, because it was a horror

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film trailer. He didn't made it
seem like he killed his wife. My

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god, he didn't give me any
real footage. To this day, my

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wife is like, you gotta play
it. If you played it, we

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could, I'll show you. It's
fucking the worst. I'm still so mad

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about that. That night was so
fund and the only footage I have of

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it as a trailer about me killing
my wife's so funny. Man, fucking

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that's what I get. I mean, I paid, I paid for what

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I got, didn't pay me right
exactly, so I got I got what

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I deserved. Have you have you
watched Private Ryan? Like, when was

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the last time you saw it?
A couple of years ago? Because so

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when I was a kid, like
it came out when I was in seventh

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grade, saw in theaters. Been
a huge history buff my whole life right

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saw it in theaters. For me, I feel like I that movie to

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me was like what people probably felt
like when they saw like Star Wars for

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the first time in a theater,
you know where it's like the movie theater

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just blows your brain out the back
of your skull, Like you're like,

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how the fuck did I just experience
that type of thing? Because I had

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my whole life have been a history
buff. My grandparents were both in the

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Second World War. My grandfather was
in the Battle of the Bulge, and

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Europe's like a big now a history
buff. Or a World War two buff

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at that point, No, because
I was big because of the War two,

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because the other movie a movie I
watched constantly as a kid, both

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because my dad was a big history
weapon because it was just on cable all

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the time, with Gettysburg that fucking
you know, five hours on TNT every

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Saturday. But as a white man, you have to you usually gravitate towards

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one, right, like World War
Two, the Civil War, the Romans.

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You know, you can generally only
pick one. I do think if

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I had to go overall, I
would go Civil War over World War Two.

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But in terms of like, there's
never been a Civil war movie to

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me that has like captured it amazingly. Like the acting in Gettysburg is excellent,

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but the combat scenes I think are
not that great. I mean,

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saving Private Ryan kind of ruined almost
everything. My question still hold up.

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Oh yeah, in a long time, I need to rewatch it. Is

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it is. Spielberg has this amazing
ability to make films that hold up over

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films made like fifteen years after Jurassic
Parks the Past example, where like somehow

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the monsters still hold up better in
that movie than in newer stuff. But

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no, Private Ryan, It's so
if you had told me, if you

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didn't, if I didn't know the
names, like who the actors were or

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anything, if I just had my
memory wiped and you had told me that

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movie was made yesterday, I would
believe it. Yeah, Like, there's

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nothing in it. There's nothing aged
in it at all. The battle sequence,

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the over the beach, Yeah,
unbelievable. Well, I think it's

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one of the things I wanted to
talk about before we talk about specifically your

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parts in this scene. But so
you're in the last like what forty because

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you play Corporal Henderson, who is
one of the I think actually the at

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that point, the commander of the
town of the unit, because you'd been

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so decimated. But you're in the
final battles, which to me gets so

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overlooked because the beach scene is a
so memorable, but be you just get

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punched in the mouth flick right away. Yeah, and then so you you

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kind of spend the rest of the
movie thinking like, what the fuck did

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I just see the battle Wise you
sort of blown your load at the beginning,

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right right kinda, I mean,
but it definitely hooks you, It

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gets you in the foot. You're
invested after that oh yeah, um,

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but yeah, I play uh,
you know, Matt Damon's commanding officer basically

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from the point that you find him
through to the end of the film.

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But um, you know, I
remember shooting my death scene in Spielberg was

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like, I think this is the
most gruesome thing I've ever shot, you

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know, at that point. But
but uh really just I mean to be

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part of that man and and uh
and we were all newbies, you know.

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It was like, yeah, Matt
Damon had Goodwill Hunting coming out,

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which hadn't come out yet. Um, Vin Diesel was a newbie, Giovanni

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Rabizi, Barry Pepper, all these
guys, Adam Goldberg. I think we

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were all, you know, kind
of starting out. I mean I think

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Ed Burns and Tom Sizemore than I
like even remotely with Yeah, yeah Tom

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Max obviously, but yeah, now
did did did? Uh? Did?

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Um? Oh? God? Cheers
helped me? Ted dance and did he

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pull you out of the movie?
That was my only complaints. I was

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like dancing doing here. It was
that was odd. I don't know if

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like his age, if him and
Spielberg just had like a chummy night out

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in Hollywood. One night is it
We're the ten dance and now reminds me

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of just a curb I know,
he's only curb now he's curb ted dancing

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to me well and good place.
It's like he cucked Larry David out.

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But it's it's interesting you know that
that like he pulls you out a bit

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like I Actually it was one of
my first lessons and you know, kind

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of surviving in this business. If
I wanted to be part of these historical

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movies, was like, not do
anything that was so identifiably me that I

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couldn't be part of other historical films. You know, so I like a

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superhero. Well, I mean it
was more like, you know, I

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got offered a big Gillette campaign and
I was like, there's a lot of

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money, but I can't what is
the best a man can get? So

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right? I mean like if if
you were watching a film and all of

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a sudden there's a sex scene with
the male character and he's like a hot

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sex scene and he's fucking flow from
progressive right, it doesn't that seems not

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gonna work, and he's not gonna
I mean, Sharon was in an episode

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of Game of Thrones singing him come
on, it's got agregious, like at

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least with um, what the fuck
Aaron Rodgers and then the Mets pitcher know

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us, they hit Art, they
hit them pretty well. Yeah. But

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yeah, like Ed Shearing's Thront and
Center, you're gonna muse like a whole

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fucking song right for three minutes.
It would have worked if they had killed

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him horrifically in that scene. Yeah, that would have been. But not

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because I don't like Ed Sheeron,
but just because it's the same of Thrones

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does that to you? Right?
Um? Which actually, so that was

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one of the things I want to
ask you about. So when the two

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things people Night might know you from
in this movie, specifically from the Last

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Battle, which I think is massively
under it. Me and my friends were

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all hooked on it and we were
like, man, that liked everyone loves

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D Day, but that last battle
is fucking dope because there's way more D

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Day. They're just basically running right
there, run, but there's like tactics

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and it's and the beginning is like
oh yeah, and you don't know the

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when you hear the tanks rumbling in
the distance, you don't see anything like

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I got like nervous. Yeah,
that that made me nervous. It was

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it was crazy. But where's in
D Day. You don't know what's about

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to happen until it happens, yea. The lead up to everything is so

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cool. But so the two things
people might remember you from in those scenes

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specifically is uh a you sharing gum
with Adam Goldberg. Everybody brings that up

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hilarious and that was improvised, so
that I was wondering. Spielberg was like,

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give him your gum? How many
times? How many times did you

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have to do a lot? A
lot? And at least it's not the

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other way around, right, yeah, right exactly? Um, you know,

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uh no, I ate his gum. I took his gum. Yeah,

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so you know, we didn't talk
about it after that, just let

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that were you just like you're clean, right, We're good, Adam.

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He's like, yeah, it's fine. But yeah, I was wondered that,

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Like, like I was watching the
movie. I was like, I

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mean, I hope that was one
take for for Maxis. Wasn't it the

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longest scene of your life, the
longest scene of my life? Like we

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need another take? No, by
the way, they were like, I

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mean, poor Adam Goldberg. I
guess he didn't really suffer in that one,

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but he kind of got abused with
the gum too. I wonder how

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many times they made Tom Hanks stick
his finger in his mouth in the things

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you can't pull it out like so
that that was like a recurring theme with

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whatever you want, mister Spielberg.
Whatever was that pretty? Would you?

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What? What even goes to your
mind when you walk on set with it?

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And you said that was not You
hadn't been in many big roles of

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that part big movie that well A
contact was big. Yeah, yeah,

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Contact was big. But when I
got big director too, it's simachus yeah

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yeah. But when I got to
I shot in London. Um, we

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shot on an airfield. I honest
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expect. Man and I and we
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basically, Um, the walk to
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backs of the facades, right so
that whole town, yeah, where there

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was all facades, And once you
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you saw that entire town built,
like every stone was brought in, the

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bridge, the river, everything was
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my god, a minute, you
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is big, This is big.
Does that make it easier? It made

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it. It was as opposed to
like being in I don't know if you've

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done Emily this, but you know, like the Marvel guys in Atlanta.

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You see the scene sets and it's
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everything. Dude, it's it.
It was so big that it made it

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easy. Like because as an actor, you know your work is selling that

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what your your your surroundings in the
environment and the situations. Right, But

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when you have that much that's already
given to you, really stepping on set,

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you're like, you're in it.
It doesn't take any work to believe

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it. You know. Suddenly like
all these guys are dirtied and bloody,

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and you know, and and and
in the acting was so good in that

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film. Yeah, the minute you're
you're in an interaction with somebody, you're

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you're invested. I mean, it
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that I've done, and interesting enough, like when I auditioned for it,

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I was like, I'm never gonna
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this, So I kind of went
in and threw it away. Yeah,

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and my agent was like, you
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because, I mean, you have
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I mean because he's you essentially are
are Tom Hanks is like point of contact

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because you're the two commanders. Yeah, and you're kind of giving a situation

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assessment of the uh what the fuck
you guys like Ammo and stuff that you

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have left. Yeah, I mean
it wasn't one of the huge, huge

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leads, but it was. It
was a pivot rule character and you know,

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and and I had moments that stud
that you know stood up in the

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film and you know, and uh
yeah, man, just awesome to be

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part of it. It's it's that's
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so we talked about the gum and
that's like a little thing that people

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might remember. But the one thing, the scene you were in that probably

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everyone remembers is one of the three
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Not yours, but you were in
the scene and you were already dead,

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I guess by the time the stabbing
scene of Melish the only there's only

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three times in my life I watched
something and been I don't want to like

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say trauma specifically, like therapy speak, but like that where I've been like

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oh oh, oh my god.
Yeah, it was intense. It was

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That's what That's what Stephen was like
it this is I've never shot anything like

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that. It was, I mean, and he had done h Schindler's Jurassic

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Park doesn't have the nicest deaths in
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But like the whole sequence in the
apartment, it was like up them we

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sent I think I think it was
that character we sent him for Amo.

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Yeah, and then the German guy
comes up. We think, we don't

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know if it's up him or not. And then we hear I think we

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hear his weapon or something, and
I fire into the wall and he drops.

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The blood comes around the door.
Yeah, and then I get shot

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in the throat and they're basically wrestling
on top of the literal till I die.

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Yeah. All he's getting stabbed,
keeping trying to keep blood in your

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throat. They're wrestling over you.
Yeah. How so with that scene too,

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like how many times? How is
that? How many? How many

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different like time like ways did they
have to shoot that? You know what

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I mean? Because there's a sequence
where they roll over you and they're doing

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shit and then you're dead and they're
I mean, like, how many that

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had to be more than a day, right that you were doing that?

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Or oh no, I think we
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But um, but you know,
I mean talking about typecasting, like I,

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you know, one, we know
I play a lot of soldiers,

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but it's like I die at least
that violent and everything that I do now

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like apparently, Um, but no, I think that was an afternoon And

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you know, what was even kind
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been people probably maybe haven't picked up
on it, was that the body that

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was getting stabbed, so Adam Goldberg
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floor or did you know this?
So I I did not know this,

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but I always thought in that scene
and it didn't doesn't take me out of

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it because it's so horrible. He
does such a good job acting in it,

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but I always thought, like,
his head's a little bit of weird

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act. It's a little weird angle. Yeah, yeah, it's funny you

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picked up on that I did,
but um, but yeah, so he's

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standing in a hole and then they
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and his sort of chest. Uh
you know is what's sticking out selling.

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that. Uh have you seen Bone Tomahawk?

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No, it's a Western with Kurt
Russell, Um, Matthew Flox from

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Loss. It's like a wet horror
Western, and it's about these Indians that

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are just like you've seen it,
have you? No? You keep good

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lord, you keep coming after me
and Jake for dude, it's fucking wild.

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they're like Neanderthal Indians, but it's
an Old West movie and they just like

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they're cannibals. They're fucking psychopaths.
Anyway, that won't ruin that death for

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you. Yeah, there's a death
of that that is horrifying. And then

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have you have you seen Game of
Thrones? So when when Oberon Martell's skull

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is crushed by the mountain, that
the first thing I thought when his skull

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got crushed was that's the worst thing
I've seen since Melish. Yeah, and

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then I saw Bone Tomahawk a bit
after that. I got really hungry for

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watermelon for some reason. Oh,
mellish, that's what Yes, Okay,

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when you were saying, melish,
I didn't put it together, that's right.

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man, like those that scene,
So were you that was a that was

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a tight shot when he was being
stabbed. So were you still around there

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or were you kind of yeah,
I think I was. I think I

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was behind him at that point,
uh, in the in the scene dead

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yeah, yeah, laying there?
Were you at any point? Were you

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just thinking like, man, this
is wild or was it kind of like

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it? It was every second was
just wild wild, and it was cool.

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It was like, you know,
uh, he just you know the

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Spielberg. I remember like one time, this will give you an idea how

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as to the scale of this film. But one time he raped because there

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was I think a tank fired into
a body that exploded. But when that

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happened, they had the Special Effects
department wire explosives all through this town,

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so on action, all these explosives
were going off. The tank was coming

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through, he fired into this body. The body blows up, but it

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didn't go well, and he goes, all, I bring in another body

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and they were like, we only
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mean and everybody just shrunk, right, but but the choreography involved in making

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that film, like so many departments, so many levels, so many different

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elements wire act. Dude, it's
just he's uh and this is why he's

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Steven Spielberg, right right, Yeah, Now you you produced and directed well

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a little bit. Yeah, how
what did you? Had you been directing

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it all at that point or I
hadn't. So is there anything to look

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back on because you've worked with again, you've worked with the magazine with Spielberg.

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Yeah, I mean I take something, you know, from all of

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these directors and and uh, you
know somebody that like, for instance,

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why wasn't a war film, but
like Germo del Toro, I'd a movie

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for right, amazing to watch work, bay very technical, amazing to watch

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work. So like when I finally
did my movie, you know, I

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had this kind of like all these
influences and in different elements that I'd taken

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from all the different guys and and
learned from you know. So you know,

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it's in a way it kind of
beats going to film school because I'm

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I'm in side by side with like
the best in the business and being directed

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by being directed by these guys,
and so it can't help, but rub

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off, you know, counterpoint.
Let me show you my student film or

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the right of the wedding video.
I really do want to see that.

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Yeah, please shout. Actually,
Dan, your first role ever was a

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rapist. I was student. Well, actually this on my first role.

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My first role was auditioning to be
a child actor. Oh yeah, but

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my parents kept trying to push me
into it. And when I told them

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the story, like you said,
I don't think I got it. I

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was very right about it, and
it was people forget it was actually for

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the child and Ai. Yeah it
was Spielberg movie as well. Really no,

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no, no, it was a
It was a shamant film though who

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was actually signs? Wasn't it really
was signed? Wait? Were you can?

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You weren't trying not for the Holkin
part, right, I'm just trying

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out for the kid part whatever the
kid part was? So? Uh is

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that? No, that's not the
that's not the one Colkin in succession.

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That's the other Coulkin and not mcaulay, not the succession whatever the other one

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is. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, dude, you never

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had a shot. If Rory Colkin
got the part, you never had a

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shot. My parents believed in me, this was like a This was like

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a like a show, you know
what I mean, Like when an NFL

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like brings in one black coach and
then don't hire them. Yeah, but

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they're like, oh, we did
the Rooney rule, like it was never

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gonna be Yeah, you were just
like the token poor kid that they let

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try out. To this day,
it still haunts me. Think you're your

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life could have it. Yeah,
it's cool. I went home seven lashes

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with the belt for Catholics here,
so it's you know that works. It

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does work. Yeah. Um but
man, I so on one other thing

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I want to ask about the same
prior ryme before we get into this week's

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topic is um, I think my
I have a theory on this, and

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I wonder if you experienced it at
all having been in the film and then

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just obviously you were probably more fairly
hyper focused on how the film was doing

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because it was such a big production
and you know, you're young actor.

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Um. I think that Saving Private
Ryan, maybe almost accidentally, is one

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of the most influential films of the
last like forty years. And I'm just

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saying this is my favorite film because
I don't think it's the best movie of

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all time or anything, but like
all the shit, Hey, I think

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people forget how much of a cultural
phenomenon it was at the time. I

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mean, it had a rerelease,
it was the highest grossing film of the

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year. It's arguably the biggest Oscar
upset in history, losing to Shakespeare and

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love. Did you react to that
at all? Were you just like whatever?

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Whatever? Yeah, pretty much.
I remember I remember watching it as

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a kid and being like what the
fuck? Like it was like it was

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like one of my sports teams lost. I was like a doctor. Fuck.

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Uh. But I mean, were
you what did you? Did you

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kind of feel that cultural impact because
I mean it inspired obviously like being a

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brother stuff like that, but then
it inspired like people don't realize, like

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video games, the video game series
like Call of Duty was on the heat

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that was created, on the heels
and the sort of warfare because there's an

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entire I think Metal of Honor two
had that entire opening scene from seven Prevarn

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just day. Know everybody uses that
shaky photography now for the for the you

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know, I think it's it's massively. It completely and immediately influenced every war

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film right after. Dude. You
know, I'll share something personal with you.

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It really changed my life, Like
yeah, it in a way that,

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um, I grew up, I
found myself. I actually, you

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know, became an adult on that
film. I was because I was I

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got hired at twenty early twenties.
Um, but I had, you know,

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uh, no conception really of what
that generation of soldier went through,

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what that war. You know,
that the scale, the battles that I

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mean, it was, it was
it was very enlightening for me. And

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and I walked away, Uh just
such a supporter of our troops that put

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their lives on the line in that
in that manner, man, I mean

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it was just And you know,
one of the things that I you know,

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I was telling Ross the other day
is that, um, you know,

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we did the we did the premiere, and Spielberg invited all these veterans,

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right, and they're all ninety and
in the pre party they're all hitting

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on my wife at the time,
like you know, I got they're all

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drug and they're all you know,
and uh but great guys. And and

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we were sitting in the theater and
we're watching that first that scene, and

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I was mesmerized. Man, you
haven't seen that. I hadn't seen it.

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Yeah, and I looked over at
these guys that were sitting next to

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me, and they were all just
frenched in tears, right, And that

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moment was so impactful for me.
Man. And and you know, there

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was an interesting article that came out
after the release of that film talking about

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how it inspired all these guys to
open up about their experiences during combat,

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you know, and it started a
conversation that they'd been sitting on for years

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and he was healing. Grandfather not
that he would talk to a third grader

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about it, but now from everyone
whatever, and told me, aside from

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my grandmother a couple of times,
never talked about it. My grandfather sat

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me down when I was seven after
I watched that movie, and he's just

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like, yeah, this was it. After the movie. After the movie,

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Yeah, I was seven. He
wasn't even in World War Two.

408
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,720
He's in Korea. But he's like, ives, yeah, same thing.

409
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,720
What are you doing? Korea fixed
plains? He said. He played a

410
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,480
lot of basketball. Actually, military
said the best time in his life.

411
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,279
He got drafted by the Dodgers and
then he got drafted by the Army,

412
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,200
so he joined the Air Force's Yeah, I really think that movie like the

413
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,720
most revolutionary thing about that movie is
that it really I think it was the

414
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:03,160
first I can recall because I've seen
a million more movies, it's the first

415
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,400
movie I can recall in terms of
timeline that uh, it kind of just

416
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,880
and it does it from the first
moment of shot is fired. It treats

417
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:17,200
American soldiers like pieces of meat,
which no movie everyone's a hero in the

418
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,440
other movie, and the sort of
it's like, no, no, everyone's

419
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,480
not a hero because they're a hero. Everyone's a hero because like look at

420
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,720
this, Look at this man picking
up his arm on the back, like

421
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,599
look at this fucking nightmare that they're
going through. They were they really,

422
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,519
I mean and even inaccurate, right, we got slaughtered on that beach.

423
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,200
Yeah, yeah, and that you
never saw that before, even in movies

424
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:40,160
that were brutal like um uh,
Full Metal Jacket or Platoon, when someone

425
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:42,400
died, it was even if they
died violently, it was still like this

426
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,920
like glorified a little bit. It
was glorified a little bit. Or it

427
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,720
was like this character died and that
the first people you see die there there

428
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,000
are there are boys in blue so
to speak or whatever, and they are

429
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,960
just discarded like garbage. And but
but that's how it's I mean, but

430
00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:00,680
that's important to be like, dude, these like the universe didn't care about

431
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,880
the I know you care about these
people, but the universe didn't care about

432
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,720
the people. They were going up
against pure violence, and that what makes

433
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,799
them hero. It's not them being
like come on, buy over the hill

434
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:11,000
like that that they had to walk
into, right, It's not like an

435
00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:15,880
army recruitment video. Literally, Yeah, And I thought, I think that

436
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,400
to me is the most revolutionary thing
that I think. It's the first film

437
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:22,759
that I like, I remember ever
seeing that. It was just like,

438
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:30,000
here's like, this is the actual
violence they dealt with. Yeah, and

439
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,680
you were one of those people.
You got one to the neck. Ye

440
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,839
took it to the neck, right
to the neck. So they shot they

441
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,799
shot that your death from sort of
the like from the side on the back.

442
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:42,160
It was like the back inside.
Did you just have like a blood

443
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,640
pack on the other side of your
neck? Yes, they will. I'm

444
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,279
trying to think if they how do
we do the blood in the back of

445
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,200
the neck, because I remember it's
sprayed and then I had like a sponge

446
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:57,880
soaked in blood that I was squeezing
while I was holding my neck. Practical

447
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,039
effects. And I don't use this
my life now. I told you I

448
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,640
like this in every film, but
now there just like, hey, follower,

449
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,559
stick your tongue out, we'll fix
it in put now yea, in

450
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,519
every movie? Now, do you
challenge the director to kill you in a

451
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,160
more intense way? I don't even
need to challenge you on like they're looking

452
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,359
forward to, like who's somebody?
I just who do we want to destroy?

453
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:26,440
Yeah? Max Martini? Right now, um, speaking of dying horribly,

454
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:33,559
that's what our topic is. And
in honor of you playing a paratrooper

455
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,759
in World War Two, uh in
D Day, we're going to talk about,

456
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:42,359
uh, a little bit of some
stuff, some some not so great

457
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:48,039
things some paratroopers went through, um
the night of D Day. So one

458
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:52,880
thing I assume our audience knows.
I assume, you know, having literally

459
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,839
played a paratrooper and whatnot. Don't
assume for me, I don't I never

460
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,319
do, No, no, no, no, maybe not? What?

461
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:03,359
Yeah? Is that? So people? A lot of people realize this,

462
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:10,440
Dan, I guess hasn't the airborne
drops the June night of June fifth to

463
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,960
kind of pre set the table for
the beach landings, a lot of misdrops.

464
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:18,680
In fact, that's one of the
main plot points to sit in Private

465
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,960
ryans. We have no fucking idea
where Private Ryan is because the soldiers,

466
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,880
believe it or not, the battle
didn't go exactly according to plan. You

467
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,559
get a gust of wind literally yeah, and I mean planes. I don't

468
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,640
know that. I think the I
think the C forty seven pilots that dropped

469
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,720
the paratroopers, a lot of them
were kind of nubes or I don't know

470
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,960
if they just got nervous, but
the flak or the flak was thicker than

471
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,079
they thought, but they kind of
freaked out and started hitting green lights before

472
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,079
they were supposed to. Guys were
jumping out of the planes before they were

473
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:52,920
supposed to because the anti aircraft was
so intense and stuff like that. So

474
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:59,680
all these paratroopers that night got dropped
everywhere. And that's the main plot point

475
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,119
of the second episode of Band of
Brothers as well, is that it's like

476
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,759
fuck, dude, Like I mean, because they had a very specific plan,

477
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,880
very specific targets of course, you
know, and all this stuff.

478
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,119
But you know, what's the saying, um whatever, you whatever, your

479
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:17,200
plan doesn't survive first contact with the
enemy essentially, and a coach and there.

480
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:22,200
So there's misdrops everywhere, and um, you know, there's whole books

481
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,240
written about this, entire books written
about all the misdrops in Normandy and all

482
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:33,640
that stuff. But there's two in
particular that really fascinate me for just how

483
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,519
unfortunate they were. Um, there
was like just it doesn't get any more

484
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:45,640
like shitty luck than then these guys
had, because a lot of them were

485
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,839
just misdropped and they ended up in
a field, or a couple of them

486
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:56,559
unfortunately ended up in the Germans had
smartly flooded certain fields, so they drowned

487
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,160
in some of these. I have
a question for you, just just because

488
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:06,400
so I to skydive. Yeah,
so when when uh, when we spot

489
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:12,319
you've got a guy hanging out the
plane right and it's all visual right yeah,

490
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,519
and then you signal to the pilot, the pilot slows down, everybody

491
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,279
pilots out. How How I mean
is that essentially the same way they were

492
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,519
spotting back then. I think the
pilots were a bit more in control because

493
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,160
the pilots were spot Yes, yeah, I think there was a guy at

494
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,359
the door taking a look, but
when the pilot hit the green light,

495
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,480
it was time to go. Yeah, and so a lot of the and

496
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:36,319
uh so a lot of these guys
that was happening too. Also, Um,

497
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:38,599
the door on the C forty seven, it's not really accurate to call

498
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:42,759
it a door because a door implies
that something closes. Yeah, it was

499
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:46,680
just a fucking right. So a
couple of these planes doing evasive maneuvers just

500
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:51,960
accidentally dropped guys out. Well,
um, I mean it was, believe

501
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,880
it or not, a fucking mess. No countdown, yeah, no countdown

502
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,799
yeah. Um. I mean there
as I was reading stories doing research for

503
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,920
this, where I that I hadn't
seen before were like guys were like about

504
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,079
to jump and then would like slip
on someone's puke from because they were so

505
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,359
nervous on the or or something like
that. Just gnarly ship. So there

506
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,839
were two. There were a couple
of drops in particular that went you know,

507
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,279
a lot of misses, but these
two were just horribly missed. And

508
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:25,279
why they were horribly missed is because
these paratroopers were dropped right into the middle

509
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:30,720
of two towns occupied by Germans.
Oi was occupied by Germans, but these

510
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:36,759
guys were dropped like on City Hall
basically full and the town's full of Germans.

511
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:40,359
These towns were Saint Mary Dumont and
Saint Mary Glees. Um, say,

512
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,440
Mary Glees, I think I'll get
to it. But one of them

513
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:46,480
is is famously portrayed in Uh.
I don't know if you've seen the old

514
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,720
World War two movie The Longest Day, that D Day film Black and White,

515
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:55,359
John Wayne fucking a young Sean Connery. Um, there's a same Mary

516
00:33:55,359 --> 00:34:00,759
Glees I think is portrayed in that. But so the drop were horrible.

517
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:06,160
Actually one of these, one of
the drop zones was drop Zone C that

518
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,119
had a lot of misses, and
that was where the band of Brothers Company

519
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,440
Easy Company was supposed to go.
But we're not talking about them. They

520
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,599
were they were better off than these
guys. So the first one I'll talk

521
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:22,119
about a little bit, as Saint
Marie Dumont, it was occupied by sixty

522
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,599
Germans. However, these weren't infantry, just sixty Yeah, I know,

523
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,760
right, come on, bro Leo
Major took care of that. Can't handle

524
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,960
sixty. Well, they weren't even
they weren't even infantry, right, These

525
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,880
were this is behind the lines like
a couple miles behind the lines. So

526
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:43,159
they were occupied by sixty sixty Germans
from one hundred and ninety first Artillery Regiment.

527
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:50,079
So the Germans were there in Saint
Marie Dumont, specifically because Dumont it's

528
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,320
on a little bit of a hill
and there's a large church tower, great

529
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,599
spotting tower. They could see the
beach, they could see the ocean,

530
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,159
they can see everything. So it's
a great place to put your artillery regiment,

531
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,039
get spotters up in the tower.
Blah blah bla so, and it

532
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:06,480
was like right behind utub Each which
is one of the landing spots. So

533
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,199
due to all the aforementioned bullshit,
all the flak and the pilot's not really

534
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,719
known what's going on and just people
falling out and everything, these guys get

535
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,280
dropped over the wrong area, I
believe, just a little early. They

536
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,760
essentially the pilots flipped the green light
too early. I think they maybe they

537
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,840
just want to get the fuck out
of there, I don't know. So

538
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:32,239
they fall directly into the middle of
the town. One paratrooper who had maybe

539
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,280
the worst and then best luck in
the span of like a couple hours.

540
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,280
I guess maybe last was Ambrose Alley. So he hit a roof in the

541
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,800
town, and because he had a
giant parachute attached to him, he was

542
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:52,880
pretty conspicuous, especially and also because
the sky was completely a light like it

543
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,559
wasn't dark. Yeah, there was
tracers all over the sky, explosions everywhere.

544
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,000
It's like the literally every every every
person who, every veteran was basically

545
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,760
it was literally the fourth July,
like it was just like you had been.

546
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,800
The Germans were like, oh,
it's a hobbyist, right, yeah,

547
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,079
right, it's a weird time to
do this. It's like, actually,

548
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:13,320
it's like the scene from the Sandlot
where they're playing baseball at night.

549
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:17,360
He's just so bright that you can
see fucking anything. So he lands on

550
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:23,719
this roof slides down. Because he's
very conspicuous, five German soldiers immediately run

551
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,000
up to him take him prisoner.
After being prisoner of the Germans for a

552
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:30,719
couple of hours, the Germans are
like, all right, I don't know

553
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,039
what's going on. This has been
a crazy night. They got a couple

554
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,119
other guys too, like this knight
has been fucking crazy. Fuck this we're

555
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,480
Nazis. Let's just go out and
kill him. So they take Ambrose and

556
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:44,800
a couple other guys out line them
up on a wall, step back,

557
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:50,760
rifles up, ready to shoot out, pops a few more paratroopers, and

558
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,719
they just light these Nazis up get
out last second, like literally from the

559
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,519
sky. No I wish they were
just floating down, but now they just

560
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:06,880
popped out from around a corner.
Light all these Nazis UPO Ambrose survives,

561
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:09,000
goes on to continue fighting in the
war and whatnoight, but I mean literally

562
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:15,480
seconds. Yeah, so this is
his account of what happened. Yeah,

563
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:23,079
wow, seconds from death. People
turn the corner at the exact right second.

564
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:30,119
Boom m um, yeah, I
was, I mean not ideal crazy.

565
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,599
Uh one, this one's less.
This one doesn't have such a happy

566
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:39,320
ending because I guess these artillery guys
are really not fucking around. I don't

567
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,920
know why. The artillery you would
think would be a little more chill than

568
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,599
than the than the battle hardened infantry. Uh. Definitely a cushy job.

569
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,480
There's actually I read a letter from
definitely not like the troops in World War

570
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,400
One. We're like, oh,
you're a sky man. We're a fellow

571
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,559
sky man. Yeah right, come
sky plus piano song Sky man, Well,

572
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,079
the artillery guys have like a night
job. They just get to chill

573
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:04,880
in the back and shoot. I
mean they're in the military, they're veterans.

574
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,639
They not the Nazi. I mean
not that the Nazis difference back,

575
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,400
but like you know, they're still
serving and everything. But like they they're

576
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:15,079
not, as Dan would say,
gunfighters right there they are, and they're

577
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:19,079
not support like they're doing combat things, but they're behind the lines. Yeah.

578
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,920
So for whatever reason, I don't
I don't know why the artillery guys

579
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,400
were like this. Oh I was
gonna say, is I read a letter

580
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,079
it's a safe job too. I
read a letter from the Mexican American War

581
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,440
about how some sister, some sister
wrote a letter to her brother. She

582
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:35,440
was just furious with them because they
were rich and he could have gotten a

583
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,559
cushy job in the artillery, but
he wanted to prove himself. Man joined

584
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:43,239
the infantry instead, And she was
like, what the fuck is wrong with

585
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,079
you? Are you kidding me?
You could have gotten any job you wanted.

586
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:50,199
You could have been a can And
if you want to kill people,

587
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,079
I know that what like that?
They chose to, you know, take

588
00:38:55,159 --> 00:39:00,920
the more dangerous. Yeah, oh
yeah, I'm sure. Uh, one

589
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,760
parachute stick, which I don't I
don't remember what a stick quite like a

590
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,800
squad basically, I guess, Um, just a couple of guys dropped directly

591
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,559
onto a German battery that was manned. So just all of them just fell

592
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,679
into a little area. And these
are round canopies. They just go down

593
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,559
right, they can steer it a
little bit. Yeah, it's not certainly

594
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,719
not like a skydiver now, but
they can go into like a slip and

595
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,239
stuff like that from what I read. Um, But yeah, certainly not

596
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,320
because one guy complained, he was
like, there's nothing I could do to

597
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,920
not drop into this water because there
was no wind. Really, so they

598
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,559
don't. Yeah, they don't have
quite the control that um. So most

599
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:45,199
of them were killed. Some of
these guys were taken prisoner and tortured by

600
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,320
the artillery men a parent who just
I guess quit their artillery job for the

601
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,199
night and started torturing these guys.
Uh. The five hundred and second Parachute

602
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:58,159
Infantry Regiment UH radio man for General
Taylor who commanded the whole one hundred and

603
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:05,519
first UH George Coska make Moki a
pull lock um that's all I he uh,

604
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:07,719
he said as much. He was
like, yeah, I landed nearby

605
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,280
and all I I just heard screams
all goddamn night from that battery. That's

606
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:15,239
I don't know what they were doing. They found mutilated bodies in the morning,

607
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,360
but they these guys just landed on
it, and the artillery guys were

608
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,480
like, all right, let's be
psychopaths. But the rest of the fucking

609
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:28,639
night, Um, I mean happy
ending that I think they eventually got killed

610
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,840
at least semi happy ending, but
um yeah, that another different war.

611
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Marie Dumont was unfortunately nothing compaid compared to

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766
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it's a it's useful for the Germans
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each other, right right next to
each other, but it takes that much

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773
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and days. Absolutely crazy. So
same air Glees was I believe one of

774
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the targets that the Dons in Banda
Brothers were initially supposed to take on what

775
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do you call it, on d
Day or whatever. But so earlier in

776
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the night before the drops had even
happened, like much after sundown, but

777
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much earlier, the town had been
the target of an aerial attack. Obviously

778
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the Allies or doing their thing,
doing their pre bombing, whatever the attack,

779
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during the attack, whatever they were
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780
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were you know now that there's a
lot of precision bombing in this day.

781
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But even for that that they accidentally
had a stray incendiary bomb the Allies did,

782
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and it hit a random house in
the same air Glees house caught fire.

783
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This ended up not being great for
the paratroopers because the fire was bad

784
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and the town uh didn't have a
fire department, so the fire department was

785
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everyone in the town, the town. Yeah. So they get someone runs

786
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:15,679
to the mayor's house and they're like, Mayor, I forget the name of

787
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,360
the family, but like, this
family's house is on fire. Can you

788
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ask the Germans to let us break
curfew and go put this fucking fire out,

789
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this huge fire on this house.
It could spread blah blah blah.

790
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So the mayor goes to the German
Uh it's not even the common common outs

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he goes to the sergeant who's in charge

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as it cool if we put the
fire out? And the Germans like,

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the Germans, yeah, but that's fine,

795
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just really excited to war the Nazi unit.

804
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811
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,679
acted like he couldn't do it German. They're like my theater director was like,

812
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,400
all right, do your German accent, Dan, and Dan was like

813
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,519
not this damn different Dan. Dan
was like Akanda, like just the worst

814
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:09,360
fucking thing. And I was like, I know you could do one,

815
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,599
dude, fuck you, I've heard
it. And then I am like,

816
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:15,679
I can't fake it. Because he
didn't want to be in the play.

817
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,599
No, he didn't want to be
the German, you know, because he

818
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:22,559
got more lined. I have to
remember those tactically a good one. Yeah,

819
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:27,480
he got more lines is an American, right right right? So I

820
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:34,559
was like, what do you do
it? Like? I just and they're

821
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:37,920
like and so I was the only
one that could do a German accent.

822
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,400
By the way, as I am
now forever in my senior year yearbook in

823
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,519
a Nazi uniform. Like I like, there's a yearbook sitting in my high

824
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:51,599
school to this day. The Nazi
we gotta post that and can give no

825
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:53,400
context. I have posted it before
him, and like, I hate how

826
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,519
handsome I am in this. It's
a good uniform terrible people, but it

827
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:02,840
doesn't mean it dress well reliables as
well. Continue because that's so interesting,

828
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,320
man. Actually, what I was
funny really about the uniform before I get

829
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,880
us is that when the Americans liberated
Paris, so the Germans marched out of

830
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,880
Paris, you know, still very
dressed up and tight or whatever, and

831
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,400
then Americans came in and the French
are like, who are these hoboes?

832
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:20,559
Because Americans don't give a fuck,
right, we're you know, hair is

833
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:22,639
all ship. They look like you
guys, I mean, yeah, they

834
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:24,800
look like you guys and same rab
Ryan, like you just walked out of

835
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,039
combat, you know what I mean. You you were not in parade dress.

836
00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:32,039
And so all these French people were
like these guys, beat those guys

837
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:39,360
the fuck. Uh So the house
is on fire. The French are putting

838
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,159
it out. The Germans are just
kind of there. It's the like Germans

839
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,400
who drew the ship duty, right, they're on night watch. They're on

840
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:49,000
night duty. So they're just like
out there smoking cigarettes. Like when the

841
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:53,400
fuck is this? Fuck these people's
houses so fuck whatever, and um so

842
00:55:53,440 --> 00:56:00,960
then the drop happens. It is
you know how I said it was bright

843
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,199
in the other town. Well,
add the fourth of July fire, add

844
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,199
the huge fire tooth that is currently
taken over the town. It looks like

845
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:14,639
it's fucking daytime, right, And
unlike in Saint Marie Dumont, where it

846
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,840
was like some guys got dropped and
it was spreadic whatever, Like twenty guys

847
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,440
got dropped right next to the fire, onto the fire, where all one

848
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:28,559
dude did get dropped into the fire. So the heat sucked his parachute into

849
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:32,280
the inferno. He was carrying a
fair amount of ordinance, so he got

850
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,000
sucked into the inferno, and then
I guess, happily for him, exploded.

851
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,840
I mean he wasn't it was not
a fire you were gonna walk like

852
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,119
to be able to run out of
or jump out of a window. He

853
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:50,599
hadn't even gotten out of his shoot
yet or anything. So yeah, he

854
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:52,559
got sucked into the fire. All
the other Germans by the way, So

855
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:55,239
these Germans on ship duty right or
watching this, and then all of a

856
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,039
sudden, people are like, oh
the fuck. And the Germans look up

857
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:02,239
and they're just like they watched for
a second, smoke, yeah, yeah,

858
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,039
they're also everybody spunk, right,
They're just like what the fuck.

859
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:09,400
And then they look a little close
and they realize these are fucking not Germans,

860
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,559
and they just start like oh shit, like pull their rifle off.

861
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,519
They're like they're pulling their rifles and
you know, MP forties or whatever off

862
00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:21,119
their shoulders, sending someone to go
tell the sergeant who's on night duty,

863
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:23,400
like night watch whatever. It's like
fuck, fuck, fuck, and um

864
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,920
they just start shooting at these sitting
ducks who they themselves can't get there.

865
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,239
Either their guns or whatever got blasted
off in the in the jump because uh,

866
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,239
you're so you skuydie right, you
said. Yeah. So I don't

867
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:37,679
know if you know this about the
paratroopers, but um, like I said,

868
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:42,159
the C forty seven pilots nervous a
ship so much. There was also

869
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:45,719
a ton of flaks, so they
couldn't slow down to the speed they needed

870
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,920
to slow down too, So these
guys were jumping at like four getting they

871
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,079
got their helmets blasted off there right
if the dudes were dropping without weapons,

872
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:58,840
um, just having to pull shit
off dead people or whatever. The fuck?

873
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:02,000
So altitude do you know, like
roughly or uh? It was like

874
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:07,679
between like three and five hundred feet
or something like that. Something crazy like

875
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,199
it was low and it was fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah that's I

876
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,599
don't I can't speak to it without
sounding like an idiot because I don't know

877
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:19,039
sky diving that well. But it
was very low and a lot faster than

878
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:23,760
they anticipated. Um, so these
guys start dropping, so you could just

879
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,159
land in like a hay stack can
be fine, yep, And a lot

880
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,960
of guys did a lot of guys
landed in just like happy little areas.

881
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:36,239
And we're like, but like,
no shoot either, just fall Oh yeah,

882
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:39,480
I mean it's not the Yeah,
I mean and some of these dudes

883
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:45,280
essentially, like a lot of the
guys on this night, their shoots either

884
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,800
didn't open right away or they were
so low that they still like you know,

885
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,920
broke arms, ankles whatever they like, low yeah, I mean low

886
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,960
like they it was just like they
didn't really get the resistance they needed to

887
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,079
to slow themselves down. So it
was not a happy land. I mean

888
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,000
even the guys who landed, okay, they're like on the normal jumps,

889
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:04,679
you know, I landed and I
was still gonna hurt. Yeah, but

890
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,480
like on these like you like on
this jump, like I had never been

891
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,719
in so much pain essentially, um, and then you got a fight after

892
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,079
that immediately oh god, in the
in the dark and complete blackness, well

893
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,519
unless you and in the middle of
the same mare glees. Yeah, so

894
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,239
uh oh yeah, so they're dropping
all the Germans like what the fuck?

895
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:28,800
They pull their guns out and start
shooting. Uh. Allegedly they killed essentially

896
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,239
everyone that dropped right over the town. Uh. It was an f company

897
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,920
of the five hundred fifth Parachute Infantry
Regiment. They killed I think like twenty

898
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,199
guys got dropping on the counter town
and they killed, um, most of

899
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:43,280
them basically and then there were other
people who dropped on the town who I

900
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:49,840
guess got luckier barely. UM Henry
langrere Uh dropped in the town, but

901
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,559
a little bit off to the side, and he was lucky enough to land

902
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:59,599
uh through a greenhouse roof, so
just a bunch of glass basically. UM.

903
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,559
One paratrooper was caught in a tree
near a church and as he was

904
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:08,920
trying to release his harness, was
essentially machine gun to death by about a

905
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,639
half dozen army. They just ran
up to him, and the mayor of

906
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:15,400
the town, Mayor Renaud, was
like, yeah, I mean, he

907
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,239
got caught in a tree. There
was nothing we could do to stop him.

908
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,559
They just ran up and lit into
him. Essentially. Ken Russell,

909
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:28,199
another paratrooper who survived the Saint Marygli's
Jump, said he looked to his right,

910
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:32,000
he saw a guy and I guess
this guy was carrying again ordinance or

911
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:37,480
whatever. Saw a guy and then
all of a sudden, gun he got

912
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:39,559
hit by a bullet or a shell
or something. All of his I could

913
01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:45,360
call him gammon grenades. I don't
know what those are, but just it's

914
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:51,199
sort of like U in private Ryan
when that flat gun lights up those guys

915
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:52,480
on the tank or no, I'm
sorry the guy when the guy runs out

916
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,800
with a sticky bomb and he doesn't
put it on the tank in time and

917
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:01,639
just goes away. Um. And
then yeah, there was another guy that

918
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,400
landed in the fire whose munitions detonated. Another paratrooper, Private first Class Ernest

919
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:13,239
Blanchard, was floating down over the
town when his friend it might have been

920
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,639
the same guy and two different people
witnesses, but he was carrying minds and

921
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:22,679
demolitions and he got hit by something
and m gone, just not there anymore.

922
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,840
Um exploded on impact, No,
not on impact, in midair,

923
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,960
in mid air someone shot his bag. I don't know. I didn't think

924
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:36,440
it worked like that, but something
happened. Um. Another guy horror stories,

925
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:39,440
I mean just horse like I said, the worst possible and these was

926
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:46,639
still a relatively successful paratroop drop.
Not these guys, but the overall situation.

927
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,679
Another guy, Thomas Rhodes. He
landed in the town square Samryglies but

928
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:57,599
survived, although he had been shot
in the mouth. Um. A few

929
01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:00,519
minutes after landing, two French civilians
ran up to him to help him.

930
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:06,320
And I don't know how these French
civilians did this, but they somehow persuaded

931
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,760
the German soldiers to not kill him
instantly. I assume he was taken prisoner,

932
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,119
but though I think he was liberated
shortly after, because like, you're

933
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,480
not really if you're not gonna kill
him, you're not really taking you're not

934
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,800
moving with prisoners back like retreating.
I guess as a whole fucking invasion,

935
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,079
it's coming through. Leave them,
they don't know anything. We just got

936
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:30,519
to get the fuck out of here. M And this is the this is

937
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:35,599
the the it wasn't. This is
both the one hundred first and the eighties.

938
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,079
So these guys are eighty second sam
Maury Dumont, I think was more

939
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:42,719
one hundred and first, and I
think these guys are more eighties. But

940
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:46,960
but around Saint Mary Glees was both
eighty second and one hundred. Um that

941
01:02:47,079 --> 01:02:52,519
was and then the other the other
unit was the British first Airborne, but

942
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:55,320
they were up a little further.
But eighty second and um, I think

943
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,519
a hundred first got dropped relatively close
to each other, and these planes got

944
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:04,280
so Chris Cross in the air,
I mean just fucking like. It doesn't

945
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,039
sound like an optimal environment to fly
plants. You know, it's fun.

946
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:08,800
It's making me think of but this. Uh. I did this movie called

947
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,920
The Great Raid. Yeah that was
the Cabanituan Death March. But I mean,

948
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:16,920
I mean the Germans were bad,
the Japanese were. Oh we we

949
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,599
talked about this all the time.
I was actually complaining on this show.

950
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:23,559
We're gonna go see Oppenheimer, right, um, there's going to be people

951
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:25,639
that leave that movie and like,
I can't believe we did this to the

952
01:03:25,719 --> 01:03:29,960
Japanese and we'll be like, all
right, hold up, yeah you need

953
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,519
to know what the Japanese did to
China. Yeah, toot to too,

954
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:37,639
American pod w the fucking I forget
the unit, but the one that just

955
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:42,440
did human experiment. I I.
I always tell people it's really funny because

956
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,280
they're like, there's also the thread
of like, oh, we were so

957
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:50,159
we dropped the bomb on the Japanese
because we were super racist, and make

958
01:03:50,239 --> 01:03:54,320
no mistake, the propaganda about the
Japanese was bananas like that we mean put

959
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:59,960
out or whatever, like not great. But uh my argument back is always

960
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:04,440
actually the reason you don't think the
Japanese are as bad as the Nazis is

961
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:10,039
because of racism, because we because
the Nazis were killing white people, and

962
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:13,679
we focus on that. We don't
really focus on all the shitty things the

963
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,239
Japanese did in China and stuff like
that. You don't and you don't care,

964
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:20,119
like you you have been taught not
to care, like without even realizing

965
01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:26,760
it. Or well, that is
the fire bombing of like Tokyo killed way

966
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,039
more people than the nukes combined.
Yeah, and bad to I assume be

967
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:34,280
a worse death unless I mean maybe
the radiation. Everyone's not probably one,

968
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,920
but um, but yeah, I'm
radiations not that bad. That businessman survived

969
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,280
two he got bombed twice. The
man's unkillable. Only time can take him.

970
01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:50,199
Uh So, John Steele, this
is a fun one. He survived,

971
01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:53,920
so it is actually fun. He
took a piece of shrapnel just to

972
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:58,880
his left foot while he was going
down in his parachute or whatever. And

973
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,480
but he never hit the groun out
because his parachute got caught on a church

974
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:03,880
steeple. This is what was in
the Longest Day, right, So his

975
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,360
parachute is caught on a church steeple. I think he while he had lost

976
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:14,119
his gun or something. He's seeing
his entire unit get massacred. Below so

977
01:05:14,159 --> 01:05:17,159
he's like, I don't think I
should try to cut myself down. Hey,

978
01:05:17,199 --> 01:05:20,800
I'm really high up. He's on
a fucking church steep My foots all

979
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:26,519
fucked up and if they see me
moving they'll probably just shoot me immediately.

980
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,960
So he just played dead for a
couple hours hanging from a church. Steple,

981
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,119
I thought you're gonna be like he
acted like a gargoyle of the church.

982
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,599
Yeah, and by the way,
he now basically has his own gargoyle.

983
01:05:36,639 --> 01:05:42,440
On that church. They hang a
parachute paratrooper dummy from a parachute from

984
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,519
the steeple he landed on. Come
on to this day in same Aero Glees.

985
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,280
I believe Same Aero Glees, there
is still a paratrooper hanging from a

986
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:55,719
statue or like they rotate a dummy. Yeah, it actually it's not statue.

987
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,079
It isn't a dummy, which I
think it's kind of weird. And

988
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:01,559
they replaced some of their shot out
stay glass window with the Virgin a picture

989
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:05,639
of the Virgin Mary with paratroopers dropping
behind her on the on that church.

990
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,280
But he had to sit there for
two hours playing dead, until finally the

991
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,800
Germans and the church tower were like, I'm pretty sure that guy's alive,

992
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:18,519
Like I I think I see him
breathing. And one of the Germans was

993
01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:21,280
just like, I got it and
was about to shoot him. And the

994
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,639
other German, Rudolph May, was
like, it's fine, just bring him

995
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:28,360
in. So they they tossed him
a rope and they were like, cut

996
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,800
yourself down, pull you in.
We're I'm gonna kill you, We'll pull

997
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,840
you in. And so he did
that, pulled himself in. Uh and

998
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:43,000
um he escaped like a few hours
later, just jumped out a window and

999
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:45,880
ran away from them. Um and
and God went behind the lines, got

1000
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:50,320
his foot fix and went that right
back into battle. Yeah, that one,

1001
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,199
That one guy. That one German
was like, I don't feel like

1002
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:58,119
it. So you're saying American soldiers
in World War two are much like hockey

1003
01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:00,840
players lower body injury, they just
they keep going, keep going, yeah,

1004
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,880
keep playing. I mean, hockey
player would play through their throat getting

1005
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:10,119
slit by it, probably if they
could. Fucking psychos. I actually saw

1006
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,639
right before this, I think the
Blues resigned Oscar sun Quist and uh,

1007
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,639
I don't really I know, I
don't really fallow hockey. That's super close,

1008
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:21,239
except for during the playoffs. Okay, but here's the thing I don't

1009
01:07:21,239 --> 01:07:25,159
I didn't know. I don't know
what he looks like either. And the

1010
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:30,000
Blues account I follow posted a picture
of him, but he was so ugly

1011
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,239
that I assumed it was the guy
who ran the Blues account I follow,

1012
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,400
because I was like, Oh,
that's gotta be a guy running internet account.

1013
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,639
And then I read the caption and
I was like, oh my god,

1014
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:45,239
that's a that's a that's a peak, prime of his life athlete who

1015
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,880
has millions of dollars and probably the
hottest girlfriend. My immediate reaction was like,

1016
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:56,360
oh, yeah, who was this
troll? Uh? But yeah,

1017
01:07:56,599 --> 01:08:00,880
yeah, their hockey players basically.
Um. So, the French had some

1018
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,760
not so fun interactions with the Americans
and Germans as well. Um. One

1019
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:11,320
French woman actually very nicely of her. She saw an American paratrooper laying down

1020
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,360
like in her garden or something like
under some brush, and he just goes,

1021
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:15,800
it's all paying a magic up and
she's like and he was just like,

1022
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,760
She's like all right, all right, and two Germans ran up.

1023
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:26,479
They had found four parachutes, but
they had only captured three Americans, so

1024
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,439
they're like, have you seen this
fourth American anywhere, and she was like

1025
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,479
nope, nope, I'm good and
they were like okay, all right,

1026
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,960
and they ran off or whatever and
she but she says, she was like

1027
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,039
I wouldn't have read her on a
movie as a German either. I was

1028
01:08:41,079 --> 01:08:45,880
just really not in the mood too. U be the cause of a guy

1029
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,920
die, right, So she was
just like, I'm just gonna opt out.

1030
01:08:48,119 --> 01:08:53,279
Yeah, peace not, this isn't
my problem. Uh. And then

1031
01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:58,039
another guy says, uh, what
was it? Oh, this is great

1032
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:00,920
actually, So it's back in Saint
Mary Dumont, a man named mister damard

1033
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:06,000
U saw two American paratroopers. The
town had kind of been cleared out at

1034
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,079
that point a little or at least
that part of the town, and uh,

1035
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:13,560
two soldiers were in front of his
door. He decided to go outside

1036
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:18,520
and be like, hey, welcome, thanks for liberating us, and um

1037
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,760
he gave them a bottle of cider. And the paratroopers didn't trust the French,

1038
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,720
and then they actually were like,
you've been you know, under French

1039
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,880
German troll for four years, you
fucking collaborator. I don't know you,

1040
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,439
bro. And so the the Americans
were like you drink it first because it

1041
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:40,600
might be poisoned, you know,
side maybe you like maybe you like the

1042
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,079
Germans. I don't know. I
heard VI, she's pretty cool. VI

1043
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,760
she France. So I was like, you guys are having a lot of

1044
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,159
fun, why don't you drink this
fucking cider. And so the guy drank

1045
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:53,039
it and was like, see it
isn't poisoned. You can wink as much

1046
01:09:53,079 --> 01:09:58,520
as yeah. Right, and then
they were like, oh sweet. So

1047
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:03,640
they took it and just drinking it
profusely, and mister Damart had like the

1048
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,800
battle was still going on, and
the guy was like, he was like,

1049
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,479
all right. So they started getting
really drunk. So I had to

1050
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,159
take it back from them so they
wouldn't die at battle because they were way

1051
01:10:13,159 --> 01:10:15,119
too drunk to keep fighting. He
was like, so he had to.

1052
01:10:15,239 --> 01:10:17,960
He had to re confiscate his liberation
present to them. He's like, you

1053
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:24,079
got to keep you're not done.
Yeah, And then unfortunately there's one guy.

1054
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:27,640
This story kind of confused me because
I don't know why they did it.

1055
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,479
Maybe their house was under fire,
but um, the woman who didn't

1056
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:35,079
rat out the American soldier or whatever, her brother who also lived in the

1057
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:39,319
town. These are all tiny towns. These are all like bum bum fuck

1058
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:44,199
fucking nowhere towns. She her brother
tried to show the Americans. Um,

1059
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,319
you know, he tried to wave
a white flag out the window to be

1060
01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:49,680
like, hey, we're good.
All this house is great. But the

1061
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,560
last thing you should do when soldiers
are walking through a town that they are

1062
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,840
not familiar with and the enemy's still
in open a window and pop out of

1063
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,560
it. Um, because he was
shot and killed by the American soldiers.

1064
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:11,119
They all window opening And but the
sister in law or the sister uh uh

1065
01:11:11,239 --> 01:11:13,840
said, she was like, you
know, it sucks, but she's like,

1066
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,319
I don't blame them, and it's
just bad luck essentially. Wow.

1067
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:23,199
But uh yeah, that is the
story of the American paratroopers that had the

1068
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:27,680
unfortunate luck of landing right in the
middle. Now, of all those stories,

1069
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,520
who would you want to be?
Would I want to be the guy

1070
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,479
on the tower stuple guy. I'll
be the guy that explodes in the fire

1071
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:46,439
just fuck it, I'm out.
Wow. Yeah, to the accounts units,

1072
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,359
very informative. Right in the middle
of the towns. It sucks.

1073
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:53,840
It was one of the crazy I
would imagine. You know, there's been

1074
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,560
bigger battles, blood of your battles. But I imagine nobody's just like kind

1075
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,000
of landed in a brothel, I
know, right just right in the middle

1076
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,159
of right into a bed open bar. That's yeah, it's France. He

1077
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:10,159
would something. Yeah. No,
I mean there was some people who just

1078
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:14,199
landed in a farm and got to
hang out with cows and shit like that.

1079
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,720
Um. Got um. The two
things we do at the end of

1080
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:24,319
the show, we say what'd you
learn? That's the first question, So

1081
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:29,600
start with that. What'd you guys
learned today? Today? I learned that,

1082
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:32,920
you know, what was the percentage
of people that actually landed properly where

1083
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:38,239
they were supposed to land? It
actually wasn't as bad as it sounds.

1084
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,840
Um. So for Drop Zone C, I didn't get the numbers for the

1085
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,640
whole thing, but for Drop Zone
C, which I mentioned earlier, which

1086
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,359
included Easy Company from Banda Brothers.
They were part of Drop Zone C,

1087
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:54,359
I think two thirds of the people
landed roughly in the proximity. Um.

1088
01:12:54,520 --> 01:13:00,359
But there were just certain parts of
units that got completely scattered to the wind

1089
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,039
essentially. Okay, So the failure
of a successful campaign is always a little

1090
01:13:04,039 --> 01:13:09,800
footnote. We don't really dig deep
into those stories too much because everything you

1091
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,319
mentioned was kind of like a bullet
point. Oh yeah, all these were

1092
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:15,520
like minor, minor cavets, because
most of the stuff you even hear about

1093
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,479
this is oh they were all everywhere
and they got together and then went in.

1094
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,079
But you know what I mean,
like like your unit and Private Ryan

1095
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:25,520
was you guys weren't actually all part
of the same unit. It was a

1096
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,960
mishmash of guys. When you introduce
each other, you were from one regiment

1097
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,600
from another. And that was how
it worked for the first couple days after

1098
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,319
the invasion. It was everyone was
a miss mishmash, and you were just

1099
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,359
you're here, all right, you're
fighting here. You know you're not gonna

1100
01:13:39,359 --> 01:13:41,279
go. Don't go find your unit
like we need you right here. Your

1101
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:45,000
unit, I'm sure has guys from
another fucking unit. That's it's all fucking

1102
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:48,439
nightmare to just stay here, hold
this road and when the infantry from the

1103
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:53,479
beaches comes through, then you can
go fuck off find whoever you're supposed to

1104
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,800
be win. But right now we're
all just a we're all just we got

1105
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,840
the same flag on, so let's
just stay here. No um, but

1106
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,520
yeah, this this stuff doesn't you
don't. You typically only hear about the

1107
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:08,159
successes or some of the funnier foibles, But I mean a lot of people,

1108
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,920
uh really ate shit that night.
I mean, and and I think

1109
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:15,039
I would love to do a whole
episode on this is it sounded? And

1110
01:14:15,079 --> 01:14:18,520
maybe this is just from the perspective
of the paratroopers because they need someone to

1111
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,039
blame, but they were really from
what I read, did not have the

1112
01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:27,239
highest opinion of the C forty seven
pilots. Well that's I was going to

1113
01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:31,000
say, second guess your spot or
yeah what I mean, get a second

1114
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,840
opinion, second opinion? Yeah,
yeah, uh no, but so informative,

1115
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,920
man, I mean, and stuff
that. You know, it's like

1116
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:45,159
these these accounts are always just they're
heartbreaking but scary, it's fun. And

1117
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:47,239
again, that's what I loved about
Saving Private Ryan is like, yeah,

1118
01:14:47,239 --> 01:14:50,079
I know it sound maybe could sound
a bit crass as somebody it's like yeah,

1119
01:14:50,079 --> 01:14:54,960
and then this guy fucking exploded.
But like that's what saving Private Rind

1120
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,920
did to me is it was just
like we're not these aren't I mean,

1121
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,520
these are all brave men, but
like we're not going to paint them all

1122
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,439
like White Knights, like you need
to see what happened to him. There's

1123
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,039
nothing romantic about a bullet. Listen, you try to save a child,

1124
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:10,720
you're getting a bullet to the neck
like Vin Diesel. But yeah, exactly,

1125
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,840
ye try to White Knight you die. That's what they Yeah, they

1126
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:20,319
I mean that movie relentlessly just ripped
the romanticism. Oh, they're like just

1127
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:30,199
after Schindler's List, right said,
yeah, you probably assume you shot it

1128
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:33,479
in ninety six, Yeah, yeah, ninety seven probably yeah. Yeah.

1129
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:39,600
But yeah, So this was I
think Spielberg, he I love what one

1130
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,079
thing about where he's very I feel
like he's a very good America, Like

1131
01:15:43,079 --> 01:15:45,920
he really believes in sort of the
American idea. He does well. This

1132
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,039
is also the easiest war to portray
that. Yeah, we always it was

1133
01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:51,680
essentially a Marvel movie. We always
joked at World Ward. We we joked

1134
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,600
at World War One is like the
most fucked up war of all time because

1135
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,920
they actually were no good guys and
bad guys. Kind of it kind of

1136
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,880
gets portrayed that way because is it
with the Germans again? But it was

1137
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,479
really just a bunch of competing interests
throwing just a bunch of cousins. Yeah,

1138
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,399
a bunch of cousins throwing their subjects
to the fucking on the playing meat

1139
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,840
chests. Yeah, yeah, we
as we like they play meat chests with

1140
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,720
each other. World War two,
though it really was it's like iron Man

1141
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,520
and Thanos, right, It's yeah, it was pretty cut and dry.

1142
01:16:18,079 --> 01:16:21,680
Um. So the second question we
like to ask is, because it's kind

1143
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,840
of a little inside joke of ours, uh, is that because most people

1144
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,600
are very stupid about history, they
just immediately compare everything to Hitler, Like

1145
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,079
that's like he's like the Hitler of
that, or like you're being like Hitler

1146
01:16:31,159 --> 01:16:35,399
or Hitler did that. So whenever
we like to identify the primary villain or

1147
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:40,720
the shittiest person in an episode,
we say, we ask who was today's

1148
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:45,520
Hitler? So who's the Hitler of
this episode? Who's the Hitler of this

1149
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,760
episode? Let Dan go first,
just say, I'm gonna say wind,

1150
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:57,439
Wind, Wind, God. I
want to say heat because the fire sucked,

1151
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,199
but yeah, heat, fire,
you know exactly. Actually, I'll

1152
01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:05,000
give you another one if you want
to go heat. I'll say this ironic

1153
01:17:05,079 --> 01:17:09,039
since they were fighting Hitler, but
those C forty seven pilots were a little

1154
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:15,039
Yeah, dude, better spot.
I always get a second, Yeah,

1155
01:17:15,319 --> 01:17:17,800
always get a second opinion on your
jump. I don't know how they do

1156
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,840
it now, you know, I'd
have to ask Dan, our boss,

1157
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,800
Dan Holloway, because just a while
to be that far off, because now,

1158
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,479
I mean it just eyeball on it. You're so accurate from thirteen thousand

1159
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,039
feet from thirteen thousand and five,
right, you can be really accurate.

1160
01:17:32,359 --> 01:17:34,640
Well, I mean it was a
night jump, but I mean they don't.

1161
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,600
They basically had no tools other than
a compass and a mapping and we

1162
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:43,079
have only been flying for like thirty
years. Yeah, at that point flight

1163
01:17:43,119 --> 01:17:45,640
had only been invented thirty years.
Oh, and I guess they didn't.

1164
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:50,680
I mean maybe they didn't quite know
the the top biography or whatever. You

1165
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:58,279
know. Yeah, I really feel
like those pilots were not was stunned by

1166
01:17:58,319 --> 01:18:00,439
how much anti aircraft fire that guy
to be, That's what it was,

1167
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:05,000
because they It's not like they were
told like, oh, it's not going

1168
01:18:05,079 --> 01:18:08,560
to be that many people. That
would be an insane thing to tell your

1169
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,880
soldiers going into full You want to
prepare them for the worst, Like the

1170
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,520
guys in desert, the desert storm, the Gulf War ninety one. They

1171
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,800
were like, yeah, the fight
was easier than training. Training was horrible.

1172
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:23,359
Yeah, um but yeah, I
think that's guy. And you don't

1173
01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:27,920
have the luxury of missing your spot
and then circling back around. No,

1174
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,439
no, no, it's like get
out. Yeah, you got one chancel.

1175
01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:33,359
Um man, thank you so much
for joining us. Max Is on

1176
01:18:33,399 --> 01:18:35,800
the show today. I were going
to mention this at the top of would

1177
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,560
record it. Yeah, max Is
on the show today again because you got

1178
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,880
a new movie coming out with our
buddy Cline Crawford as well. The Channel,

1179
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,760
The Channel very cool bank heist movie. Are you both x Marines in

1180
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:54,920
it? Your brothers were both former
Marines? Okay, yeah, he's you

1181
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,880
know, the better behaved of the
two. Yeah. But it's a great

1182
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,520
film and some pretty high speed tactics. So for if anybody that's into that

1183
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,800
kind of stuff, I know,
am I mean, if you like movies

1184
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:13,159
like The Town or any sort of
action at yeah, actually heat in the

1185
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:15,159
Town. I mean, if you
like those types of movies, you'll fucking

1186
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:18,920
love this movie. Um, it
is awesome. It is Avail on iTunes

1187
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,199
now Friday Friday. Okay, well, this will come out next week.

1188
01:19:23,239 --> 01:19:26,000
So yeah, okay it out So
it'll will have that link in our bio

1189
01:19:26,039 --> 01:19:28,680
if you want to check it out. And then also, um, it

1190
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,880
is released in theaters as well in
select cities including is it New York,

1191
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:38,079
lay in New York, LA,
San fran New Orleans, Dallas, Dallas,

1192
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:42,439
UM yeah, maybe Chicago, like
the bigger city. Yeah, so

1193
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,279
check for it in your city.
Uh. This is definitely a an excellent

1194
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:49,319
movie first and foremost, before we
fucking get romanticized anything else about it is

1195
01:19:49,359 --> 01:19:54,560
an excellent movie. But also it's
an indie film needs your support just because

1196
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,199
these are the types of movies we
should be mantle and not everything can be

1197
01:19:57,239 --> 01:20:00,760
ant man or should or or should
be ant man. Um. And I'm

1198
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,920
just excited because I feel like movies
are coming back a little bit like original

1199
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,680
shit. Like I know, like
Barbie is like based on IP but it

1200
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,000
looks entertaining and the original And then
Oppenheimer, we were talking about the Napoleon

1201
01:20:14,039 --> 01:20:17,960
trailer amazing, it looks fucking insane. And then the channel Man, I

1202
01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:23,199
mean, this movie is so cool. Um and it's it's it's I'm impressed

1203
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:28,760
you guys pulled off such good action. UM with as an indie at that

1204
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,479
budget level. Yeah, I know, it's amazing. We had a great

1205
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:35,279
director and you know, the thing
that I think separates this movie from a

1206
01:20:35,319 --> 01:20:41,520
lot of generic action films is that
it's got a great storyline. There's relationships

1207
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,319
that you know have you know,
great arcs, and so it's it's you'll

1208
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:49,079
get invested in it and it'll be
entertaining and buckle up. It's a good

1209
01:20:49,119 --> 01:20:55,319
ride. Absolutely check it out for
Max Martini, Stars Saving Private, Ryan

1210
01:20:55,439 --> 01:21:00,760
thirteen Hours and The Channel and Dan
Rojester, I'm Rob Fox. You just

1211
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:00,640
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