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Y'all ripped news, You need advice? Who you don't have? Come running

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successes? We can show Shooter's gonna
help come man. This is the Troubleshooter

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Show. Now Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the

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show. Three oh three seven one
three talk three oh three seven one three

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eight two five five. What's going
on in your life today? Don't sit

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on problems, questions, complaints,
curiosities, paints in the ass. Do

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something about it. The only place
really where we discuss this stuff. Think

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about that. Today We're gonna be
talking a little bit about taxes because we

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have a few days to file.
Of course, we can also do an

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extension. I imagine a lot of
people do extensions. What is on your

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mind? Well, here's the deal
we have Steve Saysik with us from Larson

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Tax Relief. I don't know if
it's safe to call them a tax attorney,

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but that's his area of specialties.
Wouldn't that be what you call Steve?

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What you call yourself? Yeah,
I mean I work with I am

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an attorney, and I work with
Larson as an enrolled agent for their collections.

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Some things that man nature. But
I also have an attorney yeah,

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and so you have handled tax cases
and you negotiate with the irs, and

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what's the most common issue collection for
us? The stuff that Larson handles is

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typically nine forty one, which is
the wage and withholding return. Oh that

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one. Yeah, that's that's for
at least for me and myself. That

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what does that mean? Nine forty
one? So when you're in business,

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you file at nine forty one?
What every quarter? Is it? Yeah?

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You file those every quarter for that
It tells you how many employees and

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how much you pay, and then
they tell you how much you owe.

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Right, so you're supposed to take
money out of your employees paycheck and you

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tell them that, right, Plus
don't you have to match it or what

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do there's a portion of that you
have a corporate portion, you have a

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matching portion as an employer, and
that's called the part you put into that

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fund then or you collect as a
trust exactly correct, And that's held in

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trust for the state, seld and
trust for the employee. Right right,

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then you pass it on data day
rs that amount that you say, I'm

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going to pay you fifty bucks,
but you're only getting thirty six because I'm

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going to hold this for your taxes. Now, if you in the past,

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we've had Don Iiley, this guy, it was the famous case.

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I know you guys took a lot
of their cases and helped people. But

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what happened was Don Ailey was famous. He made this famous. What he

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did was he would get nine forty
one reports from his clients. So he's

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an accountant, right, So his
clients ABC and X y Z would report

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the accurate number of employees, the
accurate number of withholdings, and they would

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forward to check to his trust account
right, and they expected or they'd give

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him access to their own accounts and
stay with from market. He was in

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charge of making the nine forty ones
for his clients. That's not unusual to

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have an accountant do a nine forty
one for your business. Sure, payroll

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companies do it all the time.
So he, in essence was a payroll

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company for the kind of you.
So he would do all the legal stuff.

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But so what he would do is
take company ABC or XYZ who reported

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all of the accurate stuff and report
that they had no employees or few employees,

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sure, and pay into the IRS
on the nine forty one what appeared

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to be the correct amount for what
he reported correct, So there was levels

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of fraud there. So it was
really so there was no way for the

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irs to know that there was any
fraud going on because the CPA is filing

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saying, here's how many employees,
here's what we owe, here's the check.

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Right then the employer would not know
because they're never going to get a

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notice of any deficiency. Sure so, and the employer as seeing the money

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come out of their bank account.
Okay now, and I should get it

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on a wide shot here since you're
talking. So here's what I want to

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know, Steve. How does that
come crumbling down? I forgot how we

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I don't know Mark. Are you
there right now? I don't know if

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Mark is there. I don't see
his camera. But how does that come

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crumbling down? Somewhere along the line, Company ABC found out they had inaccurate

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nine forty one if I remember correctly, it was an audit of Company ABC.

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And so when they turn over their
p and L and their books,

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they say, we have X amount
of employees we've been deducted. And then

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they look at the nine forty one
say, well, that's not what you've

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been paying exactly, and they said, oh, yes, it is here

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are the checks we wrote two our
accountant and they trace that back and then

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they go to the accountant and say, wait a minute, mister accountant company

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ABC wrote you a check for one
hundred grand. You wrote the IRS a

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check for fifteen right, and you
kept eighty five exactly. He's in jail.

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I don't know if he's actually still
in jail. He was in jail.

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They don't keep people in jail a
long time for this kind of crime.

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And then we figured he had about
twenty million dollars that he pilford from

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people. Now I don't know what
happens in these cases. Does he have

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to pay that back eventually? Because
he'll never pay it back? Yeah,

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I mean there's did he stash it? Do they look where he put it?

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I mean, I'm always fascinated by
fraud because I think in some cases

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fraud can pay because you go to
jail. Mark and I used to bat

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this around. Would you go to
jail for X amount of dollars for so

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many millions of dollars a year?
So when you come out you have a

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stash somewhere. I don't know,
I mean, I don't even know.

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Do they make reimbursement part of it. So disgorgement is a part of the

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judgment. I would assume I haven't
looked at the touch against him, right,

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But you know, at the end
of the day, the irises can

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say, you have a fine enough
X amount of dollars and you're gonna pay

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it for you know, the rest
of the results life. But if he

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has got Allion Camans or nick a
Arraguar or whatever they're doing these things,

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and if he was fairly intelligent about
it, which sounds like he was,

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I think that it's it's not a
victims victims crime. He's you know,

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he's killed all the businesses. And
then maybe it was responsible for what when

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a company, When a company has
not paid well, when a company did

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pay their accountant everything they owed,
then the I R S up makes it

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makes a claim so that employee.
Does that employee have to pay again if

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wages, I don't think they do. If it was withheld, doesn't the

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I R S hold them harmlessly?
Right? The IRIS is not going to

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hold an innocent employee because they in
fact, what did happen to the companies

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that came to you for help?
Did they have to pay again? Yeah?

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They were obligated Oh, because they're
the ones. The onus is on

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the taxpayer, not so the fiduciary
who screwed them. That was because they

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found the fiduciary, so they're responsible. Yeah, But had they not found

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it, the company still on the
hook for those taxes because those taxes were

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due. Regardless of whether that's CPA
paid or not, it's sexually for the

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employee, they weren't due. So
does the employer have to pay their match

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only or does the employer have to
pay everything? So the employer is on

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the hook for the corporate their own
portion and then the matching if the company

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fails in a lot of cases,
but what if they what if they passed

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on the client's money which was stolen, Do they have to make up that

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client's money that was paid to the
government or not. When you say the

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client is, well that excuse me. The employee. Sure, So if

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i'm with if a thousand dollars is
withheld from me and the company matches that,

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I don't know if it's fifty to
fifty portion, Well, so the

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company matches, and now we're busted. You're saying the employees held harmless.

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They don't have to pay another thousand. But do I have to pay their

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portion because I squandered it or I
sent it to a bad accountant. If

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the company fails, the portion that
is the owners are going to be liable

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for is the employee's portion. Oh, the company will die and there's no

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I know. But in this case, if the company's lived on after don

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Eiley, are they responsible for both
portions? Are they holy? So this

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could ruin a company. In fact, it it ye company And to note

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follow their own other than the fact
that this guy defrauded them, and it's

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unfortunate and we were able to negotiate
things in those particular circumstances. Are there

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then tips we give to companies right
now, People, if you're in business

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and you're using a professional employment group
or HR group or someone to administer your

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HR, someone to do your paychecks, to do your nine to forty one,

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is it wise every now and then
to check and reconcile with the irs.

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I think it's not a bad idea. And then also you have to

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sign these returns and so you know, we believe that I had it where

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he would had like a stamp or
something he was doing. Oh, so

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like it's the levels of see the
returns as file. You can even actually

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have them sent them to you get
transcripts from the IRS on what was filed

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on your company. Right, it's
simple bookkeeping, but it does take out

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time and effort to do it.
We have a lot of business people who

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monitor this show, so that's a
lesson to be learned. Let's talk to

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Ulysses. Ulysses, Okay, what's
going on? Man? What's happening?

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Yeah? Can you hear me?
Yes? Now is it Ulysses or Ulysses?

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What? Well, it's Lisas Okay, cool, what's going on?

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Releases? So I just recently purchased
a home and I, well, that's

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kind of good news, I hope. Right, Yeah, it's good news.

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But I decided to remodel the bathroom
and as I was tearing it out,

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I noticed there was a bunch of
mold everywhere. Yeah, and so

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I contacted the cellar and say they
were aware of the mold. They said

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they weren't, but there was a
new carpet installed, and I pulled back

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the carpet and well, even if
even if they were, was that was

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that? I don't I'm not aware
was was mold on your disclosure statement?

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Yeah? So anytime there's mold,
they have to disclose it. Well on

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yeah, I think if it's on
the disclosure statement. I'm not sure if

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mold is covered by statute, but
in any case, it was on the

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disclosure statement. And what did they
say on that disclosure statement. They weren't

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aware of any mold. That's what
they said. Now, unfortunately, and

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here's what we really need to talk
about. What are your damages? You

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would have to say that had I
known about the mold, I would have

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either paid less or I wouldn't have
purchased the property. But is that true?

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Where there are multiple offers? Would
you have bought it anyway? And

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did they know about it? You'd
have to prove it. Here's what I'm

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getting at. Most of the time, unless we're talking about a major defect,

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most of the time this disclosure issue
is not worth going after. I'm

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not saying you shouldn't. I'm saying
unless you can negotiate or settle something,

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it's almost never worth going after.
Okay, because of the level of proof,

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how would you prove you're using lot? You're saying, well, if

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they did the bad the floor,
they would have had to have seen it,

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right, isn't that what you're saying? Yeah, what if they say,

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well, our contractor never mentioned it, then what In other words,

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I'm asking you. I'm not challenging
you. I'm asking you, how would

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you prove they knew it. I
called Home DEEPO yesterday because they're the ones

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that installed the carpet and they have
pictures where it looks like there's mold,

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and I asked them what's their policy
on mold? Right, like, what

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happens if they find mold when they're
going to install carpet. They said they're

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supposed to report it, and UH, all right, so you have to

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get it, so you have,
but okay, you have to prove.

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Okay, that doesn't matter. If
their policy, the homeowner can simply say

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this ulysses. I've never ulysses.
I've never ever heard anything about mold.

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I didn't know it was there.
If that guy found it, he never

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said anything to me. You literally
have to prove it. What I'm asking

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you is how much extra did it
cost you because of this mold? Well,

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I haven't taken care of it.
Yeah, I'm trying to get it.

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How much? Mediator? Okay,
don't get someone who's going to rip

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you off and take advantage of you. And because a lot of them are

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going to tell you, for God's
sake, some of them want you to

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rebuild the whole house. Yeah,
so just be careful on that. I

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would call American Restoration twenty four to
seven. I would call him. He's

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honest, he'll do mold tests.
He'll do the most cost efficient way to

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get rid of it for you.
Did you already call a mold mitigator.

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We got a guy coming to give
us a quote and just to see how

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bad it is and what kind of
mold it is, how long it's been

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there, but we have a pointment. Okay, good. Would you also

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do me a favor? Then?
Would you also call his nickname's Rock.

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He's over at American Restoration twenty four
to seven. Really, I'd like you

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to talk to him because he'll do
mold testing and do some real stuff and

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give you a real price. He's
not one of these people that go in

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and exploit. I don't want you
to be exploited. I don't want your

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fear to make you These companies.
A lot of these mitigation companies scare the

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hell out of you, So at
least get a second opinion. Okay,

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yeah, I'll do that, and
then I want you to call me back

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because we're not done yet. If
it's so obvious, maybe we do go

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after the buyer the seller. I
mean, but first, here's the number

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eight three three seven am rest r
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am rest am rest and it's also
mrs two four seven dot com. It's

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called American Restoration twenty four seven.
Listen, did you when you mentioned it

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to the owner? What did they
the seller? What did they say?

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They just said that they didn't have
any knowledge of mold. Okay, see,

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okay, so we're right where I
said we'd be. Call me back,

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let me know, and then really
I'm gonna mark this here so i'll

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remember you when you call back.
And then then what we'll do is we'll

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check with you and see if we
have any thing we can do about it.

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two. Hi Tom Martino here three
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Now we're going to talk about a car

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heating dot Com. Now, Tim
says he has an issue with Planta,

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with poxes me Plant Hyundai. Now, I want to say something. We

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don't have Planet Hyundai or any new
car dealership on a referral list right now.

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But Planet Hyundai as they go is
a pretty good dealership. I just

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say that up front. Tim,
what's going on with him? Hey man,

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what's going on with the Planet Hyundai. Well? I was shopping online

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and I saw a vehicle that I
liked and they had it advertised after discounts

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at thirty six thousand and seven oh
seven. I said, thirty thousand seven

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seven. Okay, what's that?
I'll say you some screenshots of that?

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Okay, Now it was on was
it on their website? Yeah? Okay?

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So what happened? Well, I
call them up. The reason my

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life it so much was because it
showed they have a page on there that

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I sent you that says key features. And now what did you find?

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What? Excuse me? What what
vehicle was it? I'm not looking at

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your ad right now. I will
look at it, but what what was

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it? There was a Santa Cruz
xlt A Santa Cruz says, okay,

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and what was the feature? You
really liked? But it had the telepackage

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okay, and a lot of them
don't. And I'm I'm disabled, So

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I was thinking of putting all those
you know, scooter carriers on the back

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of my vehicle. Anyway, I
called them up, ready to buy this

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thing, and I said, I
just wanted to check it that you had

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it on hand and everything and the
advertise for thirty seven seven and it has

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you know, And they said,
oh, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, it's
okay. I'm looking at the I'm looking

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at it right now and the ad
I'm looking at it. So I see

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what you sent here today? What's
that, sir? It says on the

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website today it says thirty seven seven. No, no, I'm not looking

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at today I'm looking at what you
sent me and I'm trying to find where

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it says toe package. But anyway, anyway, go ahead. I mean

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it says key features. Oh,
I see it, key features, the

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AWD blah blah blah, and then
toe package. Okay, So okay.

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So then they changed the ad or
corrected it after you contacted, and because

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they said to you that would be
an extra thousand bucks dollars, but so

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would they would they not sell it? Let me ask you this, would

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they sell it to you for thirty
seven oh seven? No? What did

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they say? It would cost an
extra eight hundred? Uh? They they

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said it wouldn't have the tow package, but they got down to thirty eight

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two hundred and seven dollars. I
believe in that area. You mean,

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if you wanted the tow package,
Yes, I needed I get it.

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What I'm saying is and that would
have been doctor the manager over there,

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and he tells me, well,
the tow package just means that the wiring

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is pre wired to the back of
the truck, so that if you decide

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to add the trailer hitch a tow
package way, you don't have to run

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the wire and all the way to
the front of the truck, which is

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bull Well, it depends. I
mean, I don't know what their definition

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of a toe package is. I
mean it's on those sheets there. There

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is a chat for the Hyundai Motor
Company. Okay, Tim, Tim,

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let's just skip. Let's just cut
right to the chase. And it wouldn't

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matter what car you're buying and where
you're buying it. This is called a

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misrepresentation of a material fact. Now, if this was a damage thing,

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if this cost you damage, it's
considered bait and switch. It is not

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considered bait and switch if it's a
mistake, or if it's an oversight or

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a misunderstanding. If they did it
once, if they did it on a

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dozen vehicles, or month after month
after month, even after it was brought

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to their attention, it would be
considered egregious or what's called bait and switch.

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That's what the f the Federal Trade
Commission says. Here is a mistake

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a lot of us make. Now
I'm not saying you made a mistake.

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I'm saying a mistake and impression.
We think that when something is advertised,

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they must deliver it, and that's
not true. Only if there was civil

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damages that you relied on, you
flew out there, you made special arrangements,

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you lost another deal, whatever,
whatever, whatever. But that's only

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if it wasn't a mistake. The
Federal Trade Commission and the state attorney general,

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all the authorities for the fifty years
I've been doing this for consumers.

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What they do is they give you
a break if it's a mistake, and

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they look at your pattern. If
you have a pattern of doing this,

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a pattern of deceit, if you
have a track record of tricking people into

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coming to the dealership, then there
could be a problem. Now that's the

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law part of it. I don't
mean the law part. I mean the

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enforcement part of it. Now,
let's talk about the practical part of it.

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In my opinion, they should have
just given it to you and and

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it should have been a really good
good will thing, you know. Yeah,

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now what I thought that? Now? Mark? Are you there?

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Is Mark on today? He just
texted me, is he honor off?

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So right now we're a little shorter
on accesses. So he's going to come

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on a little bit later, okay, because he said something about an experience

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with a planet. So Tom,
yeah, I want to tell you that

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I checked their website today. Yeah, and they have changed the hour price

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to thirty seven seven oh seven,
but they have not removed the toe package

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from the key features. Will they
do it? Okay? Almost? Will

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they almost guarantee you that they won't
sell it to you for thirty seven seven

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oh seven. Well, then if
they can keep doing that, that would

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be a problem. But here's the
deal. You'd have to show this that

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it is a pattern. So here's
what I'd like to know if they would

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sell it for that. But here's
another thing. Just because the toe package

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is considered one thing from corporate,
they could consider I mean, I don't

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know where you get a definition of
the toe package at Planet Hyundai. I

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don't know, because when I didn't, I got it from Hyundai's motor their

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corporate. Well, no, I
get that. I get that. But

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for example, I got on a
tap with it with a fellow. No,

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I get that, But they weren't
from Planet Hyundai. They weren't.

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Did you ask Planet Hyundai before you
made an offer and went out there what

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the toe package entailed? I when
I checked to make sure that it had

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one, I was going to do
the deal at thirty eight something, and

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I think we should have somebody call
over there and clarify this. And he

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said, no, that tow package
means that it's just pre wired. Well

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okay, but listen, what I'm
what I'm getting at is if that truly

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is what it is to them.
I mean, I don't know what it

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means to them. Now. When
I, for example, buy a truck,

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or used to buy a truck with
a toe package, it would include

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the wiring, and it would include
the receiver on the back, or at

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least the receiver, sometimes not the
wiring. And so was there a receiver

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on this one? No? Okay, there should be at least if it's

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a toe package, I don't buy
it with the wiring. There needs to

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be at least a receiver on the
back. It doesn't have to have the

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ball that goes into the but it
should at least have that receiver installed.

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Well, yeah, I was.
I didn't assume that it would have the

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ball or I don't need the ball, okay, because you would just stick

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it in the receiver. Here's what
I'd like to do. I'd like to

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call over there. We got to
give this to somebody. No, and

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if they still have it on there
and they won't sell it. Did you

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call to find out if they would
sell it for that price for seven seven

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yeah no no, no for the
new for the new price seven seven yeah

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no, I haven't. Would you
do that please and we'll get Please do

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that. I mean, I really
want you to do that because if they

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because then they could say it was
a mistake, we corrected it, and

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then they'd be right. But if
they still won't sell it for that,

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there's a problem. Call I want
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I'm not going to give it to
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two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi
Tom Martino here, Steve Sizzek with us

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from Larsen Tags Relief. You can
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So, Steve, we have a
question, and that is on extensions

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coming up? Can can you file
that online without a signature? Can their

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account and do it? Hold on
sir go ahead. You can file online

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just on IRS dot goes. It
doesn't require signature, but you do have

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to have an account with IRS in
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to create your online account three IRS
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file it without going without having you
sign it. Yeah, your accountant can

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do that for you. Don't need
a doc you sign or anything. No,

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and just ask for them to send
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to the fact that they filed it, because just if they tell you that

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they did it doesn't mean they actually
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All right, three oh three seven
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have Mike an issue with the dentist. Mike. What's going on? Hey,

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Mike, I'm hoping he's there mine. Are you there? Just lost

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him? I'm so sorry. I'll
try to get him back. No,

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it's okay. James has a follow
up with Solar an offence issue. He's

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working James, you're working with Chopper. When was your original call approximately three

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weeks ago? And what was it
about? James? Did you? First

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of all, I see, let
me let me find your call. Go

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ahead, I'll keep talking. Go
ahead, I mean I'll keep listening.

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Go ahead, sir. What's going
on? It's done a fence for a

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Denver County solar panel field. And
when we had finished the fence, the

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company stopped answering the phones. Is
this is this in Colorado's? This is

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not Colorado Springs? Is it?
Oh? Denver? Okay, keep going,

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sir. So they just wouldn't answer
their phone. Then they sent an

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email saying and they wouldn't pay at
all and that I've never gotten out before.

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So I reached out to you guys
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you're you know the different things.
Uh. They finally about two days ago

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they paid good. So so they
paid money that you would put down.

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Uh, they had paid money ode
on the final payment for the project that

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they're trying to we hel out of. Oh I see, Tom, it's

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a dinger call. Yeah, it
is a dinger call. Now since you

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handled it, do you remember the
details, chopper? Yes, what happened

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is there's like a big subcontractor out
there at d I A and there's a

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middle one that was kind of screwing
this guy over. Well that's wrong,

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and I contacted the big guy and
said, come on help the little guy

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out and they did. It's a
ten thousand dollars dinger. Wow, that

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is pretty cool. Yeah, I
remember that guy got That guy got paid.

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The general got paid right, but
the sub but he didn't but our

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guy here didn't correct Yep, I
remember that. Cool. Thank you for

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that follow up, Man's that made
me feel good more. Coming right up,

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customer when you choose Frank Durand the real

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00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.480
estate man to list your home with
Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

409
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sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter. Okay, Larson tax

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relief with US eight four or four
lars in tax? Steve says it an

411
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.839
attorney at law who works there as
an Enrold agent and he does long also,

412
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.400
but for himself, and I mean
for his firm. Now I want

413
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.079
to ask Steve a question. So, even though you're filing an extension,

414
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.240
you still have to pay, right, people need to know that, Yeah,

415
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:37.440
it's an extension of file not to
pay. So if you feel like

416
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you're going to owe, then you
need to either pay one hundred percent of

417
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.319
what you owed the previous year or
ninety percent of what you think you're going

418
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:47.279
to whichever's greater. Now, what
if you don't and you want an installment.

419
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.519
Isn't there an automatic thing you can
do, like just send in a

420
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:53.720
payment saying I want an installment or
how does that work? So if you

421
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.559
do file the return and there's a
balance on there and it's below a certain

422
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.519
amount, you can actually file a
form with the returns saying hey, I'd

423
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like to go ahead and pay installments
on that And on that form, does

424
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.039
it tell you what payments they're going
to be? Like, does it have

425
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.880
a schedule for what you owe and
what the payments? Typically it does,

426
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and it's got like a calculator that
UCB it can help you out with.

427
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.039
Or there's even instructions on there as
to what they'll accept and what they want

428
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:16.200
to accept then and what form?
Do you know what formula? I think

429
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it's a nine four or five three? Don't quote me on that, Okay,

430
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.640
Now it's similar to that you can
look at up. So basically there's

431
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.240
a form for an extension with installment, but that's only up to a certain

432
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.559
amount. Right, If it's over
that amount, they don't even you cannot

433
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.079
get an installment you can get in
a selven agreement. You have to either

434
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.759
you have to negotiate with the automated
collections and is that what an enrolled agent

435
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.880
does too? Is that what you
can know? Yeah, yeah, Larsen

436
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.240
that's one of the best things that
Larsen is very good at. Actually,

437
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:39.599
it was one of the best things. We're good at it, whether you

438
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:43.960
it's a personal liability a business liability
trust fund? Is negotiating. Is we

439
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.200
negotiate when it gets to a point
where you can't do it yourself or you

440
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.519
don't want to sit on four hours, you know, on hold with the

441
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:51.960
irs and have some idiot pick up
the phone and tell you that you know

442
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.599
you're the wrong person. Were the
people that can handle that? You can

443
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:58.960
take that brain damage off off your
desk for you. That's important to know

444
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.559
because I think that is one of
the areas where we get intimidated. Does

445
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.359
that mean you have to sit on
We don't have a lot of time,

446
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.000
But do you have to sit on
the phone or do you have special numbers

447
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.039
to call for them? We have
it, We have special numbers. Lead

448
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.559
all right, now we have more
coming up. Get your calls into me

449
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three oh three Martino three oh three, six, two seven, eight,

450
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four sixty six, or of course
our regular call numbers three oh three,

451
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453
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454
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455
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seven to one help. You'll think you're

456
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his only customer when you choose Frank
Durand the real estate Man dot com to

457
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list your home with Remax Alliance.
Three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty

458
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two. Yeah, ripped up.
You need advice so you don't have come.

459
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.519
Run in just as fast as you
can. Shooter's gonna help. Come.

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00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:24.440
Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.
No Tom Martine, Hi, I'm

461
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:30.639
Tom Martino. Welcome to the show. Three oh three seven one three talk

462
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.519
three oh three seven one three eight
two five five. On this wide shot,

463
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.960
you're gonna see uh my buddy here, Steve Sizzeck, an attorney at

464
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:45.920
law. He is with Larsen Tax
Relief, and we're talking about problems in

465
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.000
that area. A lot has to
do with collection. If you have any

466
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.679
questions, give us a call.
Audits collections. Now they don't do normal

467
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:58.880
tax returns for people, but if
someone hasn't let's say someone hasn't filed in

468
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.000
ten or fifteen years or eight years
or six years or five years, they

469
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:05.480
get a notice and they want to
do something. Now, you don't actually

470
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.559
do the returns, but you give
them counseling or do you do the returns

471
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.920
in those cases? What do you
do in those cases? So Larson actually

472
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.960
does have a separate branch. It's
independent of Larsen, but it's still got

473
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:17.920
the Larsen so you they will do
that. Okay, good, So you

474
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:23.159
can person you can help get someone
back into the system. Yeah, and

475
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.559
it's kind of nice too because you
can just call one person and we can

476
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.480
you know, they can forge you
to the return Preparation unit. They can

477
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.519
get that done. Who can then
communicate with the services unit, you know,

478
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:35.440
where we can represent you based on
what youo. So it can kind

479
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:39.440
of be a one stop shop if
you've got things that are fairly straightforward as

480
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.840
far as getting those returns done.
If you need a more complicated and in

481
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.679
complex the you know, a series
of returns. We have CPA references as

482
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.599
well. Okay, Now, earlier, we had a guy call up and

483
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:58.119
he said, I saw online an
ad and it was for a Hundai on

484
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:01.800
Planet Hyundai's website, and I said
tow package and it was listed for a

485
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.760
certain price, and I called and
I wanted to buy it, and they

486
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.280
said, no, no, no, no, that doesn't have the toe

487
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:13.440
package. Like you think that's just
some wiring and stuff. He says,

488
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.559
no, no, no, Hyundai
says, a tow package is a tow

489
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:22.880
package. Now, usually a tow
package in my experience with Chevy and trucks,

490
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.840
there's a receiver on it. Sometimes
there's wiring. I don't know if

491
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.000
you've ever bought a tow package,
but usually it's that now like you buy

492
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.480
our vs have tow packages. Pickup
trucks have tow packages. So anyway,

493
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.039
so then Tim said, but they, and I said, as far as

494
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:44.480
bait and switch, bait and switch
is a very difficult thing to prove civilly

495
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:51.119
and a lot of people automatically assume
if something is advertised that they must sell

496
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.400
it to you for that amount,
and they think they have some legal right,

497
00:37:53.840 --> 00:38:00.639
and really it isn't automatic. But
the Federal Trade Commission does look down

498
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:07.800
on companies and will enforce certain laws
and penal and penalized companies who do true

499
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.840
bait and switch. A true bait
and switch is where they won't correct it,

500
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.440
or they keep it going, or
they know there's a problem, but

501
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.280
that it's bringing a lot of people
in, so yeah, let's do it.

502
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:24.039
True mistakes are not considered bait and
switch. Now. Having said that,

503
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:30.880
Tim said they did change the ad
after I complained about that thirty six

504
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.800
thousand some odd dollars and they changed
it to thirty seven some odd dollars.

505
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:42.920
And I said, I said,
listen, uh see if you can buy

506
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.239
it for that, And if you
can, then they did make a mistake

507
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.559
and they corrected it. So I
asked them to call them before we got

508
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.480
involved, because if they're now advertising
it instead of instead of thirty six seven

509
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:58.480
h seven, what is it advertised
at? Tim? What was that?

510
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:05.000
What is it now advertised that thirty
seven seven seven? Okay? And at

511
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.360
thirty seven seven another thousand bucks at
that price. They added a thousand bucks

512
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:15.679
to it acknowledging their mistakes. So
theoretically you should be able to buy it

513
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:22.639
with the toe package for that.
So won't say no, it's thirty eight.

514
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:30.360
Thirty eight to two oh seven is
their bottom dollar. And it they

515
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:35.159
are still saying that the tow package
is just the pre wiring, uh in

516
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:39.360
case you want to put on a
tow package. See, that's where we

517
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:44.760
have to figure out we really do. I'm going to look at there like,

518
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:50.239
like, what is the definition of
a tow package? Now before tim,

519
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.480
I understand? No, I get
it, I get it. I'm

520
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:59.639
going to say that Hyundai or Hyundai
in their chat with you told you it

521
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:07.880
was w go ahead, I'd have
to pull it up just a second.

522
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.199
I've got it real close. Yeah, I'm just curious what they say it

523
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:15.199
is. Okay, they already Teaver
made him. They said, the tow

524
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:22.960
package for the twenty twenty four CENTA
Cruz includes a Class four hitch receiver,

525
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:30.480
a wiring harness, and a trailer
hits ball. The maximum toy capast is

526
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.320
okay, got it? So?
And you did that on a chat right,

527
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:40.280
yes, with the corporate website.
Did you tell that to Planet Hyundai?

528
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.880
Oh? Yeah, and what did
they say? They said, no,

529
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.960
no, no, that's not what
it means. They said, it's

530
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.159
just a wiring pre wiring back to
the back of the trucks. You don't

531
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have to run the wiring all the
way. Now, here's my case,

532
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:05.519
you want to put in an AFT
market. Here's my question for people listening

533
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:09.000
Planet Hyundai as a dealer. They're
an independent dealer. I mean they are,

534
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:13.760
They're not owned by Hyundai. Are
they allowed to have their own definition

535
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.960
of a toe package? I mean? And is it disclosed anywhere? Because

536
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:25.039
to me, saying toe package means
more than wiring, you know, So

537
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.920
I want to know what people think. So did you say to them that

538
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.760
you talked? Oh you didn't tell
them. So who are you talking to

539
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:43.159
over at Planet Hyundai. Well,
I've been talking everyway. I've talked to

540
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.320
the general manager, the sales MANA
okay, So the general manager did talk

541
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:53.920
to you. He was a general
manager day with John something? Was it

542
00:41:54.000 --> 00:42:01.800
the general sales manager? What was
the general sales manager or the general manager?

543
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.800
Do you know? He said he
was a general manager? Nice?

544
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:08.039
All right, here's what I want
to do. Here's what I want to

545
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.000
tell me. That's who they are. I don't know whether they're really I

546
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.480
get it, I get it.
I just meant general. There's a lot

547
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.280
of people say they're the general sales
manager and we hear general manager. But

548
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.280
here's what I want to do.
I think there's something going on here.

549
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:30.000
I would like to talk to someone
over there about this case. Specifically.

550
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:37.519
I acknowledge that they change the price
accordingly. That's good. They said,

551
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:42.559
Hey, we made a mistake,
so now it's not thirty seven it's now

552
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:46.119
or because it's not thirty six something, it's thirty seven something. But even

553
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:52.079
when you call it thirty seven something, they won't sell it at that price.

554
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.199
Or are you saying they will sell
it at that price? But the

555
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.360
toe package is the wiring only is
that would be because they will sell it

556
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.320
at thirty seven. So now it
comes down to the definition of toe package.

557
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.519
Is that what they're saying or are
they saying what's that? They won't

558
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.440
sell it to me at thirty seven
seven if you wanted it the way it's

559
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:21.159
equipped in that ad with their definitions, would they sell it for thirty seven?

560
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:25.719
Yes, they would. They won't
sell it with the hitch that you

561
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.239
want for thirty They won't sell it
without the hitch for thirty seven seven oh

562
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:36.480
seven. They won't it as is
for thirty seven seven O seven it's thirty

563
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:42.239
eight too, then why is it
advertised for thirty seven? I don't know.

564
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:49.320
Come on, Tim, are you
joshing me? Bro? You just

565
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.199
called them to the guy Tom.
Their site says it's a six hundred and

566
00:43:53.239 --> 00:44:00.440
fifty dollars and it's wiring and receiver. Really, yes, sir, really,

567
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:06.880
so they define it as toe package
being a receiver and wiring. You

568
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.400
found it on their website. I
found it on a Google on the Hyundai

569
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.039
shop website. No, I'm not
talking about that. I'm talking about this

570
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.000
Hyundai Planet Hyundai. No, I
didn't go to Planet Hollywood. I'll tell

571
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.960
but I don't care. It's Planet
Hundai. And by the way, by

572
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:29.480
the way, that's enough for me. If the damn industry and Hyundai itself

573
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:34.880
defines it as a hitch and wiring, then that's what a toe package is.

574
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.239
You don't get to make up your
own idea of what it is.

575
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:42.000
What if their idea of a turbo
was someone who farts at it? I

576
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.079
mean, come on, you know
you gotta so here's what I'd like you

577
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:52.679
to do, Chopper. I really
I'm concerned because he said, let's forget

578
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.480
about the toe package right now.
He said, what's advertised right now?

579
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:01.559
They won't sell for that price,
then why is it advertised? I'm on

580
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.760
Planet Hyundai right now? Where is
that? Where's that car listed for thirty

581
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:14.920
seven? Where is it? I
want to make sure we just Planet Hondai's

582
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.880
website and go to Santa Cruz.
It's they give you a list of all

583
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:25.800
our Santa Cruzes. Andy, wait, Santa Cruz on Planet Hyundai. I

584
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:30.280
did get that. It's okay.
You're talking about the Santa Cruz on the

585
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:37.840
Planet Hyundai site. Yes, okay, And you're telling me they have it

586
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:43.920
listed four. I'm looking for it. I can't find it. I'm looking

587
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.480
for the one you're talking about.
Is it a twenty twenty four? Yeah?

588
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:53.480
Let me okay? Is it thirty
seven seven oh seven? Yeah?

589
00:45:54.039 --> 00:46:00.960
They still have that one there?
It's it's sand color. It's called I

590
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.280
see it, man, what a
beautiful car. I see it? Hold

591
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:09.280
on yeah and th row middle.
I see it. So here it is.

592
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:17.760
It's it's thirty seven seven oh seven, right, okay. Then I

593
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.599
want to look at it and it
says, damn it, you got it,

594
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.760
and it says toe package. So
but you're saying they won't even sell

595
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.320
it. Just that vehicle itself,
that unit number, they will not sell.

596
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:36.880
Well, he told me that he'd
have to see for sure that it's

597
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.840
got the dealer choice bonus cash.
But he said he didn't think he did.

598
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.039
But it says it on the site
that it has it. I know,

599
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.599
it says it is all right,
you know what this is getting ridiculous.

600
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:54.199
The site says thirty seven seven oh
seven and it says dealer bonus cash

601
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:58.920
minus five hundred bucks. So they're
saying, well, we're not sure we

602
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.159
can sell it for that that Now
that that is pissing me off because now

603
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:07.639
it was thirty six seven oh seven, right right right, they added a

604
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:13.559
grand to it and say they still
can't sell it. Yeah right, you

605
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.440
know what, there's something going on
here. I don't like this at all.

606
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:24.280
I don't like this, Hey,
chopper, go ahead, call them.

607
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:31.280
Get this specific. Although here's another
thing that's against the They have to

608
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:37.079
have a unit number. Did you
know that they're required to have a unit

609
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.880
number on this ad? They have
a stock number under the first heading.

610
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.639
Okay, so if I go back, there's a stock number here, hold

611
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.880
on three d's in dog. Okay, call them. Here's what I want

612
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.079
you, Chopper, Here's what I
want you to do. I want you

613
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.079
to call them. I don't want
to get into the nonsense about it once

614
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:59.320
being thirty six, seven oh seven, now it's thirty seven. I just

615
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:05.599
want to ask one quick, one
question. Will you sell that vehicle at

616
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:09.239
that price? Got it? Because
you tell them who you are and tell

617
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:14.920
them we were told you're not selling
it for that price, and in our

618
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.559
opinion, that's false advertising. I
mean, come on. And then the

619
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:23.000
next question is are there any cars
on your site that you'll sell for the

620
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:28.599
site price? Then the next question
is what is your definition of a toe

621
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.880
package? Because Hyundai disagrees with you
if you say it's just wiring. So

622
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:37.320
if you have all of that,
Chopper, really this is I want I

623
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.360
want to find out about it.
I really do. I want to find

624
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.039
that this sucks. I'm Tom Martine
three oh three, seven to one three

625
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.559
talk what do you guys think?
I think it sucks and I think we

626
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.440
should call them on it. And
you know that that distresses me because I

627
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.039
always thought they were such a good
dealer. I'm not saying I have any

628
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:58.280
connection to them, but yeah,
it just bothers me. By the way,

629
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637
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638
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639
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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. You know, I I want to

640
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.559
call Mark here because he says he's
had a similar situation with these guys.

641
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.159
I'm gonna call him right this second. Hold on and I'm calling him.

642
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.119
He knows I'm calling him, So
where is he? Come on? Mark?

643
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:15.159
Okay? There it is. Let
me call him this this is wrong,

644
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:27.920
man, let me just call him. Hey, So, Mark,

645
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:34.960
you had this situation with Planet Hyundai. You know this is getting weird,

646
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.360
and I have Chopper calling him right
now. What was your experience? So

647
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:45.800
they had one of the last twenty
twenty three Santa Fez left. So I

648
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.599
sold our black win Er twenty twenty
like I usually do. It had around

649
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.639
forty thousand miles and I saw this
one and they're one of these one price

650
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:58.679
dealerships, so whatever it is is
what? But I couldn't find another twenty

651
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.679
twenty three brand new any where the
one I wanted, which is you know,

652
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.920
the Ultimate or it's got all the
crap on it. So I call

653
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.239
up and they're like, oh,
well really that's this much and I'm like,

654
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:13.400
well, what are you talking about? And at first they told me,

655
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:19.440
well, the price you see there
does not include the dealer options that

656
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:21.840
are on it. And I said, what are you talking about? They

657
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.239
said, well, this one's got
running boards, so it's really not that

658
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:29.400
price. It's another thousand bucks or
whatever, and I'm thinking, huh.

659
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:30.920
I didn't know quite what to make
of that, but I'm like, oh,

660
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:37.000
okay. So then I call back
because I'm looking further on it,

661
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.639
and I talked to someone else and
they say, well, that vehicle's not

662
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.000
even available. So at this point
I'm going, what the hell's going on?

663
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:49.119
So I end up going down there, and basically I threw a fit.

664
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.199
I was like, it's not even
close to the price you were advertising.

665
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.840
Even if you add in the running
boat, it wasn't even there.

666
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.039
Made the math made no sense whatsoever. So finally I just said, listen,

667
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:06.199
you know this is outrageous. I
don't understand where you guys are getting

668
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:10.880
this pricing. And the salesman are
you still there? Mark? I can't

669
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:15.079
call you here. He's only been
on the radio. I don't know how

670
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:22.039
many years with men. You got
me so flustered thinking about these guys.

671
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.320
But here's what I would do on
the tow package. I've been listening.

672
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.920
Check it out, man, look
at one of the Santa Fees or one

673
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.400
of the palacines. It says toe
package, and call up someone else,

674
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:37.119
call up not whoever is calling up
right now, and say, hey,

675
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.079
I'm interested in the palisade. Do
you have any with the toe package?

676
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.480
And then say does that include the
receiver? What does that include and see

677
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.400
what they say. My guess is
they're going to say, well, yeah,

678
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:51.679
of course it includes that. I
think they just make stuff up when

679
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.519
you call them. I don't trust
them, man, although I did buy

680
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:58.440
a vehicle from them. Now hold
on because Raymond wants to comment on this.

681
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:02.880
Go ahead, Raymond, what is
your conservation? I was listening to

682
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:10.199
your program, Tom so I decided
to call Planet Hundi myself and we were

683
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:16.239
discussing the tow package that the definition
of the tow package should include include the

684
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:27.400
receiver hit. And he told the
sales manager told me that if corporates definition

685
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:34.559
includes the receiver hit and the wiring, that they would give it to the

686
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:43.239
gentleman. If he proves that corporate
definition of tow package includes both of those.

687
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.800
I'd never heard about it. Go
ahead, let me say something about

688
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.519
this coeitching. I need to say
this listening to you talk about it on

689
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.840
the air. No offense, but
it seems ridiculous. There is no vehicle

690
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.480
I have ever bought in my life
that says it comes with the toe package

691
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.880
and it doesn't include the receiver I
am wiring. I have never heard of

692
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:08.960
anything like it in my life.
I know it I agree with you.

693
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.760
If just the wiring's there, where
the hell's the wiring in that, it

694
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.960
doesn't even make sense. The wiring
generally ends at the toehitch. I know,

695
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:24.679
it's ridiculous. I mean, I
just don't understand that. Maybe we

696
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:29.800
call it seriously, and I don't
know if it goes to the ownership.

697
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:31.519
Because Mark and I had the discussion
off the air the other day. He

698
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.000
said, you know, I really
don't trust Planet Hunday and I said,

699
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:38.360
I think they're really good people.
And I didn't want to get into specifics,

700
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:42.840
but I kind of knew the owners
years ago and I thought they're really

701
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:46.760
good people. I don't understand,
but they could have some management right now

702
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:53.679
going rogue here because if they're routinely
advertising prices they can't meet, well that

703
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:58.679
sucks. And if they're saying,
well, this guy that your callers said,

704
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.480
originally it was Ford something and then
he calls up, they're like thirty

705
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:07.119
eight. Then they change it on
the website. Now they're arguing what a

706
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:12.320
toe package is. Any moron that's
arguing a toe package is just wiring and

707
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.239
that's it. There are a moron. What else can you say about them?

708
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:20.320
Well, don't insult, don't insult. Are YouTube morons? But you're

709
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.079
right, they are true. They
are morons. Uh. Three oh three

710
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.800
seven to one three talk Okay,
Mark, I know you you have to

711
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:30.119
go on that, but later,
man, let's hook you up later.

712
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:35.920
Okay, So we're done with Mark
there. Okay, good and here's the

713
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:39.280
deal. It's wrong, wrong,
wrong, wrong, wrong, that's my

714
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:44.239
opinion. Three o three seven one
three talk seven one three two five five.

715
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716
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717
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718
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719
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720
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727
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:53.159
oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty
two. Hi Tom Martino here THREEO three

728
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:57.960
seven one three talk seven one three
eight two five five you you're just joining

729
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:02.039
us. Really, this discussion on
Planet Hyundai is disturbing. We called some

730
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:07.719
other Hyundai dealers. Toe packages include
receivers and wiring. I mean to say

731
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:14.599
that it has a tow package and
it doesn't is just lying. And then

732
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.880
the other thing is to have prices
advertised that you can't get. And so

733
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:23.079
this consumer call that said that it
happened to him has now happened to him

734
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:28.679
twice. And then Mark said it
happened to him when he called they.

735
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:34.000
I think they we can probably establish
a pattern, and maybe we should go

736
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:38.039
to the Attorney General and the Federal
Trade Commission. It's wrong, It's absolutely

737
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:42.679
wrong, and if we don't get
the right answers from the general manager,

738
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.639
then we go to the owners.
Because I think it's wrong and I think

739
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:49.679
they want to know about it.
That's all so Planet Hundai. I mean,

740
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.800
you know what sucks, what really
sucks is that now this would make

741
00:57:55.360 --> 00:58:00.159
a total of all of the Hyundai
dealers that are pretty questionable. I hate

742
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:07.079
to say that, but that's just
the way it seems. Tom, what's

743
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:08.480
going on with you? Hold on
real quick, Tom, No, go

744
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:12.159
ahead, Tom, what's and Tony? We're going to talk to you about

745
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.880
your payments of taxes too, because
we have Steve Ciszick with us from Larson

746
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:21.800
tax Relief. So let's talk.
What's going on? Tom good Man?

747
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:28.199
What's happening? Good I was calling
I am have a back in September,

748
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:32.199
UH with shared fence got knocked over, and so I went over to my

749
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:37.679
neighbors. They're actually renters, great
neighbors, but they put me in contact

750
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:40.840
with their property management companies to get
okay. So are these single family homes?

751
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:49.800
Tom, Yes, they are okay. So I got retired, I

752
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.840
took pictures, I bought stuff,
I sent them voices off, sending emails

753
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:55.920
to them, going back and forth. So how do you is it a

754
00:58:55.960 --> 00:59:02.199
shared fence? Is it on your
proper line or their proper line? It's

755
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:07.079
between both of our houses. Is
it right on the property line? See

756
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:14.880
this recent These recent questions I'm having
about fence lines are weird because unless it's

757
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:19.599
really old property, fence lines are
not on the property. They're either on

758
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.760
one side or the other. They
belong to one side or the other.

759
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:28.559
Are you telling me this one is
right on the property line? I'm that

760
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.239
I don't know. I mean the
house so back in ninety six, I

761
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:36.679
think then probably it is. But
anyway, what's going on the fence is

762
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:43.119
damaged and you want to get the
neighbor to chip in. Yeah, well

763
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.760
the property management company. So I
reached out to I talked with the neighbors,

764
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.400
told them what was going on.
They said they reach out to the

765
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.719
property management company. They did,
They gave me the phone number. I

766
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:57.599
reached out with an email them back
and forth and send them pictures, send

767
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:00.639
them invoices, everything in such,
you know, share fence. I'm responsible

768
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:06.199
for half the hopefully they'll pay the
other half. But I have not been

769
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:07.440
able to you know that. You
know there's no law that says that,

770
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:14.480
right, Yeah, I guess more, you know, just common curtices.

771
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:20.639
That's right, that's right, that's
exactly or possibly possibly court precedent. I

772
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.639
I've not seen it, but maybe
a neighbor suit a neighbor one time for

773
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:27.920
a joint fence, and one that
would make it a precedent, which they

774
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:31.159
call common law. But I don't
know right off hand. So but you

775
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:36.119
would think logic would say, hey, you know, we both enjoy this

776
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:40.800
fence, let's chip in. So
what's going on now? So this is

777
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:46.880
in se September. I have probably
the past I've reached out to three or

778
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.920
four times the email. I have
not got a response back. Okay,

779
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:52.679
now here's what I'm going The check's
coming, it's on the way, but

780
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:57.480
I haven't seen anything. No.
Wait, did they say the checks coming?

781
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.119
Yeah? I said that where yep, this is the check Oh I

782
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:04.639
didn't know that. Well, so
they didn't say we're not doing it.

783
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:07.320
They said the checks on the way. Yeah. And then they asked them,

784
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:10.480
okay, send us the invoice,
to send us the pictures, all

785
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:13.440
that kind of stuff, just to
prove that I did it, which is

786
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.039
fine. I get that, you
know, And but now they won't even

787
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:20.400
reply back to my emails. Can
I get an update? What's going on?

788
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:25.800
Could send the checkout? It's just
crickets from them. Okay, here,

789
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:30.920
here I have the name of the
property management company, a phone number

790
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:36.280
who I spoke with. That helps
you. Why don't you do this?

791
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:44.960
Why don't you Why don't you find
the owner itself from the tax records?

792
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:52.360
That's what I would do. Really, the property out of Texas, it's

793
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.239
a it's a it's a huge company. No, I'm talking. Wait so

794
01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.280
the owner. Okay, wait a
minute, So the owner a big company.

795
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:07.559
The owner is a big company too. Owner. Yeah, it's not

796
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:13.719
like an individual owner. Correct.
Nope, Oh I didn't know they rented

797
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.800
up. Yeah, here's what I
would do. You might Okay, how

798
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:22.360
much is it going to be for
their halts? I mean their half is

799
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:28.800
it's like two d and it's not
much. But that's it. I didn't

800
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:34.039
think that's it. They're they're giving
me headichs overrit just going back and forth

801
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.960
about it. But you know,
you could do something crazy. Are you

802
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:42.440
going to do the work? That's
the way I've done it, and work's

803
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.840
done. You did it, I
got I have Yeah, I did it.

804
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:46.679
I had to hire a couple of
guys up to come do it.

805
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:50.519
Hey, bro, you know what
I'm going to say, right now you're

806
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:58.039
gonna love it. Let's not put
a mechanics lean on it. You have,

807
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:02.039
you have everything, you have everything
you need to do that. Kay?

808
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:10.320
No, So I would if I
were you, I'd put a lien

809
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:16.079
on it. What are you kidding
me? Not much? You know who

810
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:20.880
cares? You know what that'll get
them? Tell me what happens? Will

811
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.679
you win on this? I would
put a lien on it? Okay?

812
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:31.360
Okay, Well you would have to
ask me that it's I don't know specifically.

813
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.920
I'm not a contractor had to do
it. But I can't tell you

814
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:38.239
this. It's easy. Everyone tells
me it's easy. So google it or

815
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:43.960
AI it or call I don't know. You know, you can technically have

816
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:47.840
an attorney do it and had attorney's
fees. But really I would try to

817
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:51.159
do it myself if I were you, But I can't tell you how.

818
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:58.639
I don't know how. I think
there's a form. Okay, I promise

819
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:02.519
you they're gonna freak. Now here's
where they're gonna freak before you do it.

820
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.840
Now, it hasn't been four months, has it since you ended the

821
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:12.880
work? I submitted? It was
it was late September September twenty seven.

822
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:19.360
God damn it. So you've finished
the job in late September. Yeah wait

823
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:24.639
October November. No, you didn't
know, you didn't. You have to

824
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:30.679
go out and do a few more
touch ups today, okay, because you

825
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:36.199
only have four months from the time
the work stops. I'm not giving you

826
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:41.440
legal advice. I'm not giving you
tricky advice. I'm just saying I am

827
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:46.679
sure you can find some touch up
work that needs to be done, okay.

828
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:51.800
In fact, if it would be
better, yeah, yeah, yeah,

829
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:57.280
if you had yep, if you
go out there and maybe your wife

830
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:02.960
snaps a picture of you working on
it today. Okay, because you only

831
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:08.719
have four months now, once you
finish the job, you have four months

832
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:14.599
to do that. Lean. What
I would do first is you have to

833
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:20.039
do a ten day notice that will
get you paid. Make sure you word

834
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.760
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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter three

842
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:12.000
all three seven one three talk three
all three seven one three eight two five

843
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:16.599
five. Randy has U Okay,
Tony wants to talk about taxes. Then

844
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:21.599
Randy wants to talk about truck purchase. Steven wants to talk about social services.

845
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:27.079
Tony, what's happening. Welcome to
the show. I'm Tom Martino.

846
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:32.199
Yeah, in the past I have
I use Turbo tax have been a very

847
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:40.920
simple act situation, and I've done
it mostly and I owe about five K

848
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:45.880
to the I R S in the
past when I vowed more than a couple

849
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.000
thousand dollars. When I get done
with Turbo tax, it tells me,

850
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:56.440
oh, you have to make estimated
payments, which is fine. The question

851
01:06:56.599 --> 01:07:00.440
I have is I worked on my
taxes we ago. Since I found that

852
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:06.360
I'm a big chunk of change,
I've changed withholding online in my wife's taxes

853
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:13.000
in order to not have such a
shortfall next year. Okay, I ignore

854
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:16.800
those estimated tax payments and that going
to be a problem. What are you

855
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:20.719
talking about estimated I don't even know
what you talk about estimated tax. It's

856
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:24.920
going to tell me actimate quarterly estimated
tax. Well, you do if you're

857
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.559
self employed or something like that.
But you said you change the deduction.

858
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:32.519
So do you two both have regular
W two salaries? Yes? Well,

859
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.280
yeah, I mean if you under
tom, if you underpay, regardless of

860
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.440
you've got withholding or not, the
IRIS is going to want you to make

861
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:41.599
estimateds on top of that. Come
on, yep, even if you're a

862
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.280
W two, even if you're a
W two, But what if you just

863
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.480
increase your deduction? So he's he's
actually had a gut or decreases. And

864
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:51.320
to his question, if you feel
that you're increased with holdings is going to

865
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:56.079
address that five thousand dollars shortfall next
year, then you don't have to make

866
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:58.800
those estimated tax deposits. But if
you're off and you owe again, you're

867
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:01.800
going to be penalized for that.
Now, the rule is you have to

868
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.920
pay at least ninety percent of the
previous year. Is that what it is

869
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:09.519
or ninety percent of current or what
what is the rule on us? It's

870
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.960
one hundred percent of what you owe
the previous year or ninety percent of what

871
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:15.680
you think you're going to owe,
whichever is greater. Okay, Okay,

872
01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:18.159
So it's five So for example,
in his case, you'd have to have

873
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.760
five thousand estimated tax deposits to be
composed. So when you make those adjustments

874
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:27.880
to your deductions, will you guys
pay in another five grand? Yes?

875
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:31.079
Okay, then you should be fine. Yeah, but you don't have any

876
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:35.359
self employment at all? No?
No, how are you off that much?

877
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:41.479
Do you have a lot of interest
income and stuff? Well, to

878
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:46.119
tell you the truth, my wife's
son social Security. She's retired, so

879
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:53.600
that that didn't withheld withhold anything.
And can you choose to withhold with social

880
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.640
or not? It depends. I
mean I don't know that Tony. Can

881
01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:01.159
you choose to withhold with a Social
Security that I'm familiar with? Yeah?

882
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:03.920
I think you have to elect into
it. It's not like an easy process.

883
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:08.079
So you just have to know that
you're not getting any Okay, So

884
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:14.000
where does it stand that the it
doesn't the quarterly payments? Let me explain

885
01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:19.319
this to you. They're never required. They're only required if you want to.

886
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.520
It's not a violation of the law
not to do them. Is what

887
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:30.239
I'm saying is it's not like you
have to pay tax. But theoretically you

888
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:32.960
don't have to make estimated payments as
long as you pay your tax if you're

889
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:36.319
not going to owe, and if
you don't care about penalty, and so

890
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:41.640
the answer is, of course,
you can adjust any way you want and

891
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:45.880
then make sure and then hope that
it works out. That's the answer.

892
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.039
And if it doesn't, you pay
a penalty. And you learned three oh

893
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:51.279
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917
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:01.000
problems, question complaints, and we're
gonna go right now and do that again.

918
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:05.319
I'm gonna talk to Randy as a
question out a truck issue. Randy,

919
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:09.920
go ahead, what's going on?
Randy? Hey, Tom, I

920
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.239
just got a quick question. Yeah, I bought it. I bought a

921
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:19.000
truck about a week ago, and
then newer used used. Okay, it's

922
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:24.159
a really nice truck. It's a
ninety nine Dodge Ram with a just a

923
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:29.039
little over one hundred thousand miles on
it. Wow. Yeah, it's it's

924
01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:31.399
a really nice truck. But so
they put a dash cover on it,

925
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:35.399
because those those ninety Dodges, the
dashes always end up cracking and breaking.

926
01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:42.239
Mm hm. So I moved the
dash cover and come to find out the

927
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:49.920
VIN number that's supposed to be in
the windshield is gone. Oh why was

928
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:54.039
it ever? I mean, is
there a ven number elsewhere on the car?

929
01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:58.920
There there is. I found the
two, the one in the door

930
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:02.319
and the one underneath the hood,
but I wasn't too sure. You know,

931
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:06.800
somebody stole outan Where is that usually? Is that usually standard? Front?

932
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:13.079
Left? Is it? Yes?
So it's from the outside you can

933
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.439
see it, right? Is that
what they usually look down at the bottom

934
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:20.840
right of the windshield when you're standing
outside bottom left river side? Yeah,

935
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:25.239
well, when you're outside, it's
the bottom right. Oh yeah, okay,

936
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:34.680
so huh wow. So if you
have another VIN, is there a

937
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:39.279
law on that? I don't even
know? I mean, uh, did

938
01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:44.520
you see if the VIN on the
door jam or wherever matches the title?

939
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.159
Right? As far, I bought
it from a dealership, so I didn't

940
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:57.039
actually see the title. It's because
you took a loan. Yeah, okay,

941
01:13:57.159 --> 01:14:03.560
So how about on your registration?
What's the registration it matches? And

942
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:06.479
like I said, the door jam
and the underneath to you know, I

943
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:10.439
don't think it would bother me too
much. I don't think it would even

944
01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:15.399
I wouldn't say that it's a ninety
nine. What are your concerns? Well,

945
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.960
a couple? Is it legal to
sell it with the VEN number missing?

946
01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:21.439
But here's what I want to ask
you. And I don't mean I'm

947
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:26.560
not trying to be a smarty pants. I'm just asking what difference does it

948
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:29.800
make? At this point, if
you like the truck and you bought it

949
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:32.760
and you have a VEN number,
why do you care about that? I'm

950
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:35.640
just curious. Let's even say,
even if it wasn't legal, why do

951
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:40.239
you care? Well, So,
say if I move out of state and

952
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:44.279
I have to get a VEN in
session and okay, okay, okay,

953
01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:47.800
or if there's another truck driving around
with that VIN number of underneath to dash,

954
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.760
you know, and I understand if
somebody took it. You mean,

955
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:58.199
yeah, huh, so did you
do ave in search of it to find

956
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:02.039
out? I did? In serge
it's a two owner car, a two

957
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:08.319
owner car or truck, I mean, but it's not showing up anywhere else.

958
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:14.039
No, I don't know. I
mean, what are the chances.

959
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:16.319
I'm not trying to talk you out
of doing something. I just don't want

960
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.520
you to go through conniptions for no
reason. What are the chances that you're

961
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:24.760
going to move out of state and
need a VENT inspection or sell it out

962
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:30.560
of state? You know, you
never really know. The company that I

963
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:33.640
work for is all over the country, so you could be transferred out of

964
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:41.760
state. Okay, did you ask
your motor vehicle department what's up? Well,

965
01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:43.920
I just found it the other day. Is that I haven't? Did

966
01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:47.720
you call the dealer? I called
the dealer. They said they'd check into

967
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.359
it, and of course, you
know, they'll take their time and get

968
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:54.720
back. What was it a used
car, lot of pot loot or what?

969
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:02.399
No, it was a new car
Dealershipswagen. Oh crap, Greeley,

970
01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:08.439
God Almighty, I hate Greeley.
I don't hate Greeley itself, every business

971
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:13.119
in Greeley and every car dealer in
Greeley and every politician in Greeley. So

972
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.199
I guess I do hate Greeley.
I hate the smell of Greeley. So

973
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:24.199
what else? What do I like
about Greeley? Wow? Listen, here's

974
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:28.800
what I'm thinking. I want to
talk to our expert. I think what

975
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:33.439
we should do. Katschina is called
JFR Cars Rodney. He's a car dealer.

976
01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.279
I just want to run it by
and see what he says. So

977
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:41.199
hold on, I do want to
see that could be a problem. So

978
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:46.000
I'm going to mark this pending right
now for JFR. And then and that's

979
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:51.720
Rod Greer over there. Three oh
three seven one three eight two five five

980
01:16:51.840 --> 01:17:00.600
Steven, what's your issue with social
services? Highste what's happening? I'm longtime

981
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:03.079
fan. How are you good?
I'm doing good and thanks for listening for

982
01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:09.520
a while. Man, So what's
going on with social services? I've just

983
01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:13.039
had nothing but trouble with many Well
look what do you mean though? Like,

984
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:18.880
how did it all start? I've
been disabled for like twenty five thirty

985
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:24.520
years and thanks you so be a
lot better. My insurance was better.

986
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:29.600
Everything was better, I was treated
better, and it just keeps getting worse

987
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:31.039
and worse and worse. Well,
what's worse? Okay? I need to

988
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:36.039
know what's happening that brought on the
call? There? Something must have precipitated

989
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:44.399
the call. I went to get
up, my eye looked at I thought

990
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:51.960
I had a contact when stuck,
and I'm not sure. I didn't feel

991
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:56.600
like they give me gives a good
service. Now, where are you getting?

992
01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:00.760
Is this Medicaid? Oh? Yeah, I am in Boulder, Colorado?

993
01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:08.479
Are you saying so? Your basic
complaint is that Medicaid is deficient?

994
01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:15.800
Lately Medicare they twitched me to United
Healthcare Medicare D problem. Hold on,

995
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:23.039
I thought you just told me you're
disabled. Yeah, how old are you

996
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:28.680
Medicaid? I'm fifty four years old. I've been so. So you get

997
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:36.079
Medicaid, not Medicare. No,
I get Medicare eighty percent Medicaid Okay,

998
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:41.199
okay, they pay for your code. So Medicaid is like your supplement,

999
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:46.640
yes, sir, okay. And
you're complaining about the Medicare part big ones

1000
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:55.720
Medicaid. I get it. You're
complaining. You're so you're on Social Security

1001
01:18:55.720 --> 01:19:01.760
district. I'm just tired about like
with all the the economy and the inflation,

1002
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:06.840
everybody gets compensated, so they're fine
with it, but I keep getting

1003
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:13.920
skim it skimmed and lowered and stuff
like that, and I don't understand that.

1004
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.319
Give me your latest example, Like
you're saying that the medical issues me.

1005
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:23.560
You're saying that you need to get
the highest you can get for food

1006
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:28.760
stamps, EBT. Because I have
to be on a special diet for one

1007
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:32.880
of my maladies. And I used
to get it, then they cut it.

1008
01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:39.119
Then I got like one thirty and
then the next month. Do you

1009
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:43.920
have a case work Do you have
a case worker, Steven, No,

1010
01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:49.640
not really. I have a case
worker for United Healthcare. They called theirself

1011
01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:56.000
advisor because once they sign me up, they're done with me. They say,

1012
01:19:56.119 --> 01:20:00.319
you have any other questions, probably
your insurance. Here's here's what I

1013
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:08.359
don't understand you have. You have
a complaint with Medicare and with basically the

1014
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:15.000
providers, right, not the payment, but the providers. Is it the

1015
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:20.199
payment or is it the providers?
Oh well, my payment like the IASNE

1016
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:25.399
went up a much, very much
a large time and you grow up fifty

1017
01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:29.520
bucks a year. Well, see
you're calling. This is what I'm getting

1018
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:33.279
at. I'm trying to narrow down
your complaint because it may be Listen what

1019
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:39.079
I'm Stephen, what I'm trying to
figure out if the complaints you have for

1020
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:44.560
payment and for service or healthcare,
if there are those, if those are

1021
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:50.199
systematic, Okay, systemic, there's
nothing that we can do about it.

1022
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:54.880
That it's just the way it is. I mean, I don't like saying

1023
01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:58.079
that, but it's the truth.
I mean, there's nothing we can do.

1024
01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:01.119
I was wondering if there's a Space
Pacific issue we can help you with.

1025
01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:06.159
I can't help you with the whole
system specific issues, but I can't

1026
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:11.479
get into that today. I just
don't want the emotions to come up a

1027
01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:15.560
better rough day. Okay, here's
what I can do, Stephen, Here's

1028
01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:19.560
what we can do. No,
it's really funny. Thank you for that,

1029
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:25.760
Stephen. If you could help me
here, if you could hang on

1030
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:30.880
hold a Kachina will give you an
email, if you can email us the

1031
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.520
part that you're really calling about,
Okay, we can't help you with.

1032
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:40.800
In general, Medicare sucks, United
Healthcare sucks, the payment and reimbursement system

1033
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:44.920
sucks. The fact you're not getting
raises sucks. We can't deal with it.

1034
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.359
But if there's something on your mind
right now, an issue that we

1035
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:50.800
can help you with, feel free
to email us. She'll give you the

1036
01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:56.039
email and we'll we'll gladly help you
with it. I mean just that we

1037
01:21:56.159 --> 01:22:01.680
can't address what we call systemic problems. Three O three seven one three eight

1038
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:13.000
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1039
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:18.600
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1040
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:23.960
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1041
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:28.359
your coverage at dozens of insurance companies
find out now three oh three seven seven

1042
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:31.159
to one help. You'll think you're
his only customer when you choose Frank Durand

1043
01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:35.560
the real estate man dot com to
list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

1044
01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:45.319
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Pay Tom Martino your troubleshooter three oh

1045
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:50.079
three seven one three talk three oh
three seven one three a two five five.

1046
01:22:50.119 --> 01:22:55.399
I certainly appreciate your questions, problems, complaints, keep them coming at

1047
01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:58.640
three oh three Martino. Now you
can call any time three oh three six

1048
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:00.439
two seven eight four six six.
If you're listening to a stream high,

1049
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:03.880
if you're exercising on the treadmill,
just remember three oh three Martino. Leave

1050
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:06.800
your number, we'll call you back, or you can call live It three

1051
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:11.079
oh three seven one three talk seven
one three eight two five five. So

1052
01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:15.279
Gwen has a follow up and it
was from two weeks ago a water heater.

1053
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:19.760
I'm not sure for some reason,
I'm trying to find this call Gwen.

1054
01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:25.439
Can you uh explain the situation?
Did we give someone to work on

1055
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:30.279
this? Oh oh wait wait wait
wait was this way or let me get

1056
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:35.239
this straight. Is this where you
had a furnace and a water heater put

1057
01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:42.840
in and by quality builders and they
didn't do a good they did something.

1058
01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:47.399
Here's what it was. You did
this addition as I remember, and they

1059
01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:51.479
had to alter the plan because of
the venting and all of that. So

1060
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:59.359
the plan made them alter it to
where you needed another furnace, you had

1061
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:03.279
to replace your furnace so it could
go horizontal, and then you needed to

1062
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:08.800
vent your water heater. And I
thought they were taken care of all of

1063
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:13.199
that. What's the problem right now? No, they're not taking care of

1064
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:15.720
it. And what needs to be
done right now to make it livable?

1065
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:21.640
What needs to be done A new
water heater? Okay, but the old

1066
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:26.199
water heater is still there. They
never did. They never took it out.

1067
01:24:26.920 --> 01:24:31.119
No, and why is the new
water heat? Why is the old

1068
01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:38.279
water heater not working? It's been
ruined with the kit they put on it.

1069
01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:42.720
And what kind of kit did they
put on? A horizontal vent?

1070
01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:51.560
Yes, a vent horizontal and that
ruined the water heater. Do they acknowledge?

1071
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:59.199
They do? They acknowledge they ruined
the water heater? No? How

1072
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:08.399
old is your water here? Five? Okay? Not that old? What

1073
01:25:08.520 --> 01:25:13.319
kind is it? Do you know? No? Huh? What size is

1074
01:25:13.359 --> 01:25:21.560
it? Blum home depot gallon?
It's a fifty gallon so at at euro

1075
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:32.760
Plumbing Colorado dot net for that fifty
gallon. It would cost you approximately fourteen

1076
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:42.960
ninety nine, fourteen ninety nine.
And what do they say at quality builders

1077
01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:46.960
about this? Do they say that's
your problem? It did not break because

1078
01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:53.159
of us? What are they saying? Yes, they're saying it passed res

1079
01:25:53.680 --> 01:26:00.560
And I've had Tipping Hat and Plumbline
come out and say that it's then legally

1080
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:06.720
And oh did plumb Line look at
it? Yes? How much did Plumbline

1081
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:14.039
say it would take to fix it? Fifty seven? So it's more,

1082
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:19.039
why did they say they had to
do something special? They have to replace

1083
01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:29.479
it and they would throw in a
free I think it's an extra gallon thing.

1084
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:32.439
Okay, it's a it's a yeah, I know it's so listen,

1085
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:44.199
what about Tipping Hat. Tipping Hat
has a seven thousand gear forever warranty,

1086
01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:48.439
forever warranty. But they're gonna they
would charge you seven grand to do it?

1087
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:55.920
Yes, yeah, I wouldn't do
that. They would fix the leaking

1088
01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:00.000
of the furnace. Also, wait
a minute, why is the furnace leaking

1089
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:05.680
because they didn't do a good job
there either. Did Plumbline put that in

1090
01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:16.760
their estimate too? I believe so? Well? Kind of so, so

1091
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:21.199
they installed the new furnace the wrong
way, and they installed the water heater

1092
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:27.520
and ruined it. Yes, it
cannot be corrected. They have to do

1093
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:33.239
it. So quality builders, are
they simply washing their hands? Yes?

1094
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:39.439
What the hell's now? I noticed
here? I had Deputy Dollar on this.

1095
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:43.760
Dollar you're there, did you Dollar? Do you recall this case?

1096
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:46.920
It was assigned to you? Yeah? Yeah, that's coming back to me.

1097
01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:51.720
Well what happened, man? I
mean Equality Builders dropped the ball on

1098
01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:57.560
this thing, Yes they did.
I don't have any notes on this at

1099
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:00.000
all, but I know that they
should fix what they they put in there?

1100
01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:05.439
Why aren't they fixing it? Now? Listen, you know that's where

1101
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:10.600
we go first? Then what I
would do? I want Dollar to take

1102
01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:15.359
another stab at this, Yeah,
because I think originally I she'd cut gotten

1103
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:23.000
the name from Angie's list. Yeah, I remember this. Still Still we

1104
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:29.239
need to get on this sucker.
We need to figure out We just had

1105
01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:39.000
to figure out who is at quality
that will address the damn thing? Right?

1106
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:44.720
All right? You had me get
two estimates and then said we're not

1107
01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:47.960
doing it. It's your problem.
Dollar. Can you follow up on this

1108
01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:53.119
day and then just see what they
say? Yes, I just totally am

1109
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:58.279
stressed about this. Quality builders.
This is a possible sleeze brigade. But

1110
01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:02.279
as I remember it, I thought
you reported that you didn't think they were

1111
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:06.439
that bad after you talk to them. I think I made notes here.

1112
01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:11.680
I'm looking at the call. Just
let's revisit this. Thank you for letting

1113
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:15.359
us know. Gwenn, we don't
like you know, we like to help

1114
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:17.720
as much as we can, so
we will. Now, did we ever

1115
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:24.720
get JFR cars on for the UH
for the VIN thing? What happened to

1116
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:28.039
that caller? So he had to
actually go, but I gave him that

1117
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:31.439
number and him and Rot and I
also texted Rod, so they're gonna line

1118
01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:35.039
themselves up offline. Well, thank
you for helping him out. Three h

1119
01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:41.920
three seven one three eight two five
five. Yeah, it's really really difficult

1120
01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:46.079
when that kind of stuff happens with
a car and Vin's because it could be

1121
01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:50.520
difficult to get it inspected if you
needed to. If that VIN number tag

1122
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:55.560
is not on the dash on the
left side. As you're sitting in your

1123
01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.640
car the lower left, you know, it's right in the corner there where

1124
01:29:58.640 --> 01:30:02.000
the windshield meets the dag. We
can all see that little metal embroidered,

1125
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:05.479
I don't know imbossed, or I
don't know what the word is. It's

1126
01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:11.640
stamped. Maybe maybe that's the better
word. Okay, So we have more

1127
01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:15.560
coming up on the Troubleshooter Show three
O three seven to one, three eight

1128
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:25.880
two five five. Go with a
sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot

1129
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:31.640
com. You don't pay a cent
until you're content. Time for an insurance

1130
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:38.079
check up free, no obligation comparison
call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

1131
01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:41.760
at dozens of insurance companies find out
now three O three seven to seven to

1132
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:45.479
one. Help. You'll think you're
his only customer when you choose Frank durand

1133
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:48.920
the real estate Man dot com to
list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

1134
01:30:48.960 --> 01:31:00.199
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshoot three

1135
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.079
or three seven to one to three
talk three LL three seven one three eight

1136
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:10.319
two five five. Gareth has a
issue with Excel Energy. Gareth, what's

1137
01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:13.800
happening? Oh hey, Tom,
thank you so much for taking my call.

1138
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:15.279
You listen to your show every morning
anyway, Thank you? I live

1139
01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:19.399
Uh Ever, you know we had
that big storm on Saturday, and my

1140
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:24.720
power has been out ever since then, ever since Saturday from the winds.

1141
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:30.359
Yes, uh huh wow, and
uh it's Tuesday now and I haven't had

1142
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:34.520
an electricity since then. I've tried
to call Excel and you know, they're

1143
01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:40.359
not they responsive, They didn't keep
me updated. So there's a tree in

1144
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:42.800
my neighbor's house that fell on the
line and it's still sitting. There's a

1145
01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:46.960
huge tree with a seven foot root
ball and it's leaning against the lion and

1146
01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:50.760
it's almost hitting the neighbor's house and
nobody's come out to deal with it.

1147
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:56.680
And uh Le's called and well and
you've called and you've not gotten a response.

1148
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:00.720
Well, they did respond eventually,
and it's well, we're going to

1149
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:03.199
get to it maybe by ten o'clock
to night. And I ended this morning.

1150
01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:08.720
There's no linemen out there, there's
no tree service. How many people

1151
01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:13.319
are affected? Well, my whole
household. They did get the power grun

1152
01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:15.720
across the street, and the neighbors
over the other street, everything else nine

1153
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:23.239
has all the power restored, but
still nothing in our homes. I've had

1154
01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:27.520
had heat for three days, no
hot water and being spongebats and it is

1155
01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:30.319
this crazy. I mean, I
didn't realize there are people still. Now

1156
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:35.680
you say you don't know how many
people are really affected. Well, my

1157
01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:40.760
household, it's five people, a
tortoise making No, I'm talking about like,

1158
01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:45.720
is it the neighborhood. Yeah,
it's just our one street. And

1159
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:48.560
I understand there's a huge tree,
it's probably forty foot trees sitting on the

1160
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:54.520
line. And they always think peopet
from the house. Yeah, you think

1161
01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:59.159
they would come out and give us
a little priority here and then add insulted

1162
01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:01.439
in on the physician. So I
came out of my office to in Porton

1163
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:04.159
and the power went out. Now
it's out till ten o'clock and I to

1164
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:09.079
cancel my health practice all day long, all my patients, you know,

1165
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:12.560
patients getting carried the garrett. Do
you have your clinic right there at the

1166
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:15.319
house. No, No, No, it's my office and so and I

1167
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:20.239
live in Applewood. Okay, So
it's your office that's affected or your home.

1168
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:24.560
Well, well the home still affected. I came, Oh, you

1169
01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:27.520
had to cancel because I get it. I get it. You had to

1170
01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:30.319
cancel, not because of the clinic
directly affected, but you are I get

1171
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:33.960
it. Well, No, my
clinics oh, both my clinics. I

1172
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.840
cancel my holidays. So the powers
out of my office, the powers out

1173
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:41.960
of my home. Oh my god, this is okay. Then this is

1174
01:33:42.039 --> 01:33:45.479
bigger than I thought. I don't
think I've read anywhere where power is still

1175
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:49.199
out. I didn't know this.
I want to call over and get a

1176
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:55.159
question. Let's uh call over.
You know, unfortunately Excel doesn't have the

1177
01:33:55.239 --> 01:34:00.760
media response they used to. They
used to be very attentive to public inqurease.

1178
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:03.600
And I guess the point I'm trying
to making. You know, they're

1179
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:08.960
trying to push this whole electrical outd
You know, I took cars, electric

1180
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:11.720
furnaces. You know, I was
fortunate. I have a gas stove,

1181
01:34:11.760 --> 01:34:14.840
so I was able to heat up
the kitchen and boil some water to wash

1182
01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:16.399
my face. But you know,
it's kind of a I don't know sugactly

1183
01:34:16.479 --> 01:34:20.279
live in a third world country anymore. And uh, you know, it's

1184
01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:25.640
just uh and the's and I understand
the active nature. But the fact that

1185
01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:29.319
that I'm responsible and I just choose
it's in your opinion is of course I

1186
01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:34.640
had to throw all my feet away
you mean against Excel. Well, I

1187
01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:39.159
mean I was silly not paying my
bill next month. You know, it's

1188
01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.119
just uh, you know, because
it's I'll bet you they're going to bill

1189
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.920
you and expect to be paid for
what you use, you know, I

1190
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:48.119
mean, obviously you're not going to
be paid where it's not being metered.

1191
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:53.039
Right now, you're not using any
power. But I think we need to

1192
01:34:53.079 --> 01:34:57.600
call over there and find out what's
happening. I did not realize that there

1193
01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:01.840
were people still out of power.
It's not a huge amount. It's just

1194
01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:05.560
maybe my whole street and then a
couple of streets, so that's that's a

1195
01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:11.720
lot. Did you get any indication
when they'll be out there? Well,

1196
01:35:12.079 --> 01:35:15.159
this morning I went out there and
see the alignment. There's no tree gut

1197
01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:16.680
right and I understand that. You
know, it's a huge tree, and

1198
01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:19.560
I get it. I want to
listen. I know. I gave Deputy

1199
01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:24.399
Dollar a couple of things to call
on Kachina, either him or maybe you

1200
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:28.319
can call. Do we have a
media contact over there anymore? I know

1201
01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:32.600
they're they're pretty deficient. Yeah,
they are few and far between. Let

1202
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:35.880
me see what I can do.
I just want to try to get someone

1203
01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:39.960
to address I don't, you know, we need to find out what area

1204
01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:43.560
he's talking about. And then what
I'd really like to know is, I

1205
01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:45.600
mean, obviously we can't make them
go over there and fix it right this

1206
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:50.039
minute, but I'll bet you,
I'll bet you though we can at least

1207
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:56.199
light a fire. I mean,
I got to figure out why this is

1208
01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:59.880
happening. I mean, okay,
we're going. I'm going to the map

1209
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:02.800
and I want to see what's that
in all parents, It's a huge tree.

1210
01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:05.960
It's probably it's in seven foot reetfall. It's probably a sixth footh diameter

1211
01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:11.760
of pine tree that went. It's
it's resting on the lion. So current

1212
01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:15.920
outages right now? Have you looked
at them? You know? I looked

1213
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:18.159
at it and my neighbor's not blue
and it was red. Now it's blue.

1214
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:20.399
So I don't know if they're just
ignoring us, so they're not going

1215
01:36:20.439 --> 01:36:27.520
to show up, or well,
no, blue just means it's under fifty

1216
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:31.000
Yeah, okay, sod undred.
Yet's not a huge sloth of people.

1217
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:33.800
It's just the one area with the
lion. The tree is resting on the

1218
01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:41.479
lion. Huh. This is They
pay their CEO seven three three million dollars

1219
01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:44.279
last year and they spent a lot
of money putting smart leaders, so they

1220
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:45.520
could charge me a lot more money. So you think the service, So

1221
01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:48.279
give me the address of your clinic. I want to see what it says.

1222
01:36:49.439 --> 01:36:53.399
Well, this is a different situation
altogether. I mean they had intelt

1223
01:36:53.399 --> 01:36:56.680
the injury. My home's out and
I came to my office to work today

1224
01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:59.039
and then the power went out here
it's out till ten o'clock and I could

1225
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:01.399
cancel the whole clinic. I'm going
to charge my phone and charge my retargeable

1226
01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:05.960
white, but my house. So
it's just okay, give me the give

1227
01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:11.079
me a number, not necessarily your
number, but a number and street.

1228
01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:15.600
Where is it? Well, my
house is in uh it's stop. Thirty

1229
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:19.119
second in young Field. Thirty second
in young Field. Okay, I'm just

1230
01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:25.439
trying to get a map here.
Thirty second in young Field. Okay,

1231
01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:29.199
okay, I got it. I
got it. Hold on, I got

1232
01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:31.960
it. Hold on. So I'm
looking at it. Yeah, there are

1233
01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:39.600
like pockets of fifty people here and
there. Yes, what a pain in

1234
01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:42.920
the ass that is. I know, it's just like I haven't had a

1235
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:45.279
heat. I have to just spond. Look, I lived in a soulal

1236
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:46.760
counstries. I know how to deal
with this kind of stuff. But you

1237
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:51.720
know, this is America. I
think what they're saying is is that this

1238
01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:58.239
is going to be fixed today.
Did you see that? I didn't see

1239
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:00.279
that, But the fact that you
know, I left to go to work

1240
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.439
at nine and there still knows time. If anyone is wondering what I'm doing,

1241
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:09.600
I went to the Excel website and
you find outages. You go there,

1242
01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:13.039
you put it under. It's a
pretty damn good map and it shows

1243
01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:16.720
you what's out, how many people
are affected, and if there are multiple

1244
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:23.640
outages, and there are multiple outages
with fifty or less impacted, so what

1245
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:27.880
I think, Yes, I'd still
like to make that general inquiry. I'm

1246
01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:30.159
sure they're going to say, well, well, you know we're doing it.

1247
01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.039
Who knows it? Says check your
status here, and that's what I

1248
01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:39.319
put in. And you did you
do this on Excel? Did you go

1249
01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:43.760
on and put your actual account number
into check your status? You know I

1250
01:38:43.840 --> 01:38:46.079
haven't done that yet. Gan.
Why don't you do that because every time

1251
01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:49.840
you do that, that inquiry goes
to them. I would do that and

1252
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:53.720
let us know what you find out. I can't do it. I got

1253
01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:57.920
to put in your account number,
So I would go to Excel Now to

1254
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:00.319
find outages. You don't have to
have anycount number, but to check the

1255
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:04.720
status of where exactly you are you
have to have an account number. So

1256
01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:09.439
go to Excel Energy and let me
know what you find. Three oh three

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01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:18.800
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1259
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:31.399
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01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:40.439
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01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:44.880
Frank durand the real estate Man dot
com to list your home with Remax Alliance

1263
01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:53.640
three oh three nine two zero sixteen
twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three

1264
01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:59.880
oh three seven one three talk three
all three seven one three eight two five

1265
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:02.720
five. We have Steve Cisick with
us from Larson Tax Relief Plus. We

1266
01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:05.479
have another hour to go. We
want to take your calls at three ozho

1267
01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:10.720
three seven to one three talk or
three oh three Martino three oh three six

1268
01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:13.479
two seven eight, four, six
six. Listen. Even if you have

1269
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:16.760
a small problem that's just starting,
it's better to talk now and get some

1270
01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:21.279
general advice and waiting for it to
fall apart or hoping that it's going to

1271
01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:25.600
be fixed. And we can talk
about anything from your house to your car,

1272
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:30.239
to your career, to your finances, to everything everything buying and selling,

1273
01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:30.920
what to buy, where to buy, when to buy, why to

1274
01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:35.159
buy, and who to avoid three
oh three seven to one three talk Now,

1275
01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.760
let's go, Steve. I have
some questions that were facts to us.

1276
01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:43.479
One is about, uh, they
didn't get a chance to get this

1277
01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.720
entity done. They have to file
tax, but they know they're not going

1278
01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:51.119
to owe money. So is there
a real consequence to not filing right on

1279
01:40:51.279 --> 01:40:56.439
time? For that particular one depends
on the type of entity. If it's

1280
01:40:56.479 --> 01:40:59.479
an eleven twenty year and eleven twenty
ess and what the hell does that mean?

1281
01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:01.960
I mean like it's an LLC.
If it's an LLC and it's going

1282
01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:04.319
to be attached to their ten forty, which is called a schedule. See

1283
01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:09.079
the necessarily you don't have to report
on there if there wasn't any you know,

1284
01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:14.079
expenses, you don't it's a standalone
LLC with partners or not partners,

1285
01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:16.720
but other well, yeah, other
members. Like so let's say there's three

1286
01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:20.039
members. That's what this guy is
saying. I know the company three members

1287
01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:24.159
LLC. They didn't have much business
and they don't have no profit. They

1288
01:41:24.239 --> 01:41:28.720
have no profit, no tax do
but they just didn't get around of filing.

1289
01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:30.840
Yeah, so they're going to get
penalized. They need to file,

1290
01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:33.680
you know. I thought it's penalty
based on what you owe. It's no,

1291
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:38.039
not necessarily you still have to file
the return. It's an informational return,

1292
01:41:38.239 --> 01:41:40.520
you know, So especially if there's
partners, what would they what would

1293
01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:45.039
they penalize? You do? You
know there is a penalty per partner really

1294
01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:50.880
like ten thousand dollars. It can
be if there's you know, enough partners.

1295
01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:55.600
So isn't it shouldn't They just put
in any kind of extension and that

1296
01:41:55.640 --> 01:42:00.800
would have ship. But I thought
they I thought entities were a month earlier

1297
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:03.279
than Yeah, at this point they're
late. They should file something. And

1298
01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:06.640
if this is their first return and
they haven't had a previous return that was

1299
01:42:06.680 --> 01:42:11.520
owed, they can actually file to
get those penalties waived. So just file

1300
01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:14.239
it, and there's a farm eight
forty three. You can just file it

1301
01:42:14.279 --> 01:42:15.319
and say, you know, first
time at batement's what it's called, and

1302
01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:18.279
they'll wave those penalties for the first
one and then moving forward, just file

1303
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:20.960
it even if you don't anything.
You know, typically you want to file

1304
01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:25.920
on personal taxes, the penalty is
tied to exactly what you oh, exactly,

1305
01:42:26.119 --> 01:42:29.079
So there are no penalties if you
don't. Oh no, not on

1306
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:32.000
the personal tax. But if you
don't file because you think you don't owe

1307
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:35.560
and you keep doing that, then
they can file for you and they may

1308
01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:38.760
assume you all right, Well,
at that point they just throw the book

1309
01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:40.920
at you because you get no deductions, you get no expenses, you get

1310
01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:42.600
none of the you know, the
things that would make it so that you

1311
01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:45.359
don't know, So just file it. Substitute return for you. Oh yeah,

1312
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:47.920
they will. And what is that
based on? Well, how do

1313
01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:51.880
they estimate incomes and stuff? So
essentially the irs is going to get a

1314
01:42:51.880 --> 01:42:59.119
bunch of documentation from people that are
two two's anything the mortgage company sends them,

1315
01:42:59.199 --> 01:43:00.840
you know, all sorts of things, and then they're going to look

1316
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:03.720
at that and then they're going to
generate a return based upon their perceived income

1317
01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:08.159
that you've received. Now there's an
age old problem I want to send I

1318
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:12.399
want to talk to you about,
and that's called matching ten ninety nine Again,

1319
01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:15.720
I know you love this one.
There are companies that keep track of

1320
01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:24.279
income religiously and they report their income. Now the ten ninety nine are separate,

1321
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:28.520
but they're included in that amount.
So let's say you have ten ten

1322
01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:30.960
ninety nine's at one hundred bucks eats, right, so you have one thousand

1323
01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:36.000
dollars of income. Now you report
on SCHEDULECEE or wherever wherever you report it,

1324
01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:43.520
you report the thousand dollars income,
but you report it as ABC LLC

1325
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:51.439
or ABC tom Right doing business whatever. So you include the ten ninety ninees

1326
01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:56.119
or not? You include them,
right if you have them. But do

1327
01:43:56.239 --> 01:44:00.279
you say on that schedule somewhere that
these ten ninety nine are incorporating into that

1328
01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:03.520
amount you need too or else?
Do you have to go line by line?

1329
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:05.760
Yeah? So they want to.
It sucks. I mean, really,

1330
01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:09.640
what do you do if you have
a The way that Dais looks at

1331
01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:11.640
it is they say, okay,
well there's one thousand dollars of income.

1332
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:15.520
We're gonna go ahead and accept his
his you know, voluntary reporting on that.

1333
01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:17.720
We see all these other income components
that he hasn't listed. Oh,

1334
01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:20.880
we're going to add those two now
right when you yes, what do you

1335
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:24.000
do? You got to match?
You have to match him or else they're

1336
01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:26.159
going to add that to you as
an additionally. Wow, okay, we

1337
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:28.720
have more coming up. If you
have questions. You're a business, now's

1338
01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:34.199
the chance three oh three seven one
three talk or three oh three Martino go

1339
01:44:34.399 --> 01:44:39.600
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1340
01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:46.000
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your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find

1342
01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:55.920
out now three oh three seven to
seven to one help. You'll think you're

1343
01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:59.800
his only customer when you choose Frank
durand the real estate Man dot com to

1344
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.680
list your home with Remax Alliance three
all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1345
01:45:04.840 --> 01:45:18.119
Yeah, ripped up news need advice
so you don't have come Running's just

1346
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:26.119
as fast as we can. Shooter's
gonna help coming. Man Dix is the

1347
01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:32.520
Troubleshooter show No Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the

1348
01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:38.239
show. Three all three seven to
one three talk is our number for the

1349
01:45:38.319 --> 01:45:43.159
station here and then three all three
seven one three eight two five five.

1350
01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:49.920
So what we can do is take
calls also at three oh three Martino three

1351
01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:55.720
oh three six two seven eight four
six six, and you can leave a

1352
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:58.239
message if we're not there on that
one and we'll call you back. You

1353
01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:01.119
can call that twenty four to seven
through Martinez. Hey Brad, what's going

1354
01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:09.000
on? Hi? Tom? I
have a question about whether or not an

1355
01:46:09.159 --> 01:46:13.279
HOA is way out of line.
Okay, I'll give you my opinion,

1356
01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:15.880
or maybe we can weigh in with
somebody on the legal aspect. But first,

1357
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:21.880
just tell your story, Brad.
Okay, I have a neighbor whose

1358
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:28.760
house has been on the market for
about seven months, and I've come to

1359
01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:34.159
learn that they have had ten offers
on their house. But the lady that's

1360
01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:43.720
in charge of the arc committee or
architectural committee apparently has been interviewing the buyers

1361
01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:49.560
and feeding them a bunch of information, and all ten offers have been withdrawn

1362
01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:57.159
because of HOA issues. Now,
what do you mean do you know why

1363
01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:06.159
they were withdrawn? After talking to
who what what is her position of the

1364
01:47:06.359 --> 01:47:15.000
arts committee? Hold on the Are
you saying ARC our ARC the stand for

1365
01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:21.399
architectural committee? Okay, like the
ones who enforced covenants? Yeah, uh

1366
01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:28.239
huh okay, I don't understand.
Why would she even interview them? I

1367
01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:32.159
don't get it. Well I don't
either. I don't think they have any

1368
01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:36.319
right to butt in between the buyer
and the seller of a of a property.

1369
01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:42.479
Well, what I don't understand is
like, for example, how does

1370
01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:49.680
the how does the are the the
Architectural Review Board even know that there is

1371
01:47:49.720 --> 01:47:55.159
an offer on the house? How
do they contact the buyer? How does

1372
01:47:55.239 --> 01:48:00.479
this happen? I doubt I'm not
sure. Well, see, Brad,

1373
01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:05.319
I need all of this information to
see if it's tortious interference or if they're

1374
01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:12.800
doing what's called a fiduciary or a
potential fiduciary a favor. I mean,

1375
01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:17.279
there's really that much leeway. Are
they doing something out of duty or are

1376
01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:21.600
they interfering? What do you think? I mean, what did the neighbor

1377
01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:32.279
tell you? Well, apparently some
of the perspective buyers have contacted the HOA

1378
01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:36.279
just I guess just to talk about
it. Well, you know what that's

1379
01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:42.720
a good thing. Most buyers or
their agents should contact the HOA, and

1380
01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:47.000
when they do, they say something
like this, I'm thinking of buying the

1381
01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:51.920
house at one two three Mulberry Street, and I'd like to know the condition

1382
01:48:53.039 --> 01:48:57.319
of the HOA or whatever. And
the HOA then says, well, let's

1383
01:48:57.399 --> 01:48:59.840
meet with you, or they talk
to them on the phone or what.

1384
01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:06.399
But yeah, unfortunately I don't have
a lot of Well see that's what I

1385
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:10.399
mean, Brad. I mean,
I don't chastise you for calling. That's

1386
01:49:10.439 --> 01:49:13.399
fine, but I don't know I
even have enough information to go on.

1387
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:18.680
So is it something like this,
the house has some architectural problems that have

1388
01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:24.720
to be fixed to come up to
covedence? What do you think is being

1389
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:30.680
said? Has anyone shared with you
what's being said? Not specifically? Okay,

1390
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:34.800
Well then then I can't help you. You suspect though, that the

1391
01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:41.399
HOA is interfering, and I can
say this, hold on, there is

1392
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:47.960
no interference. If someone buying a
house calls the HOA and the HOA renders

1393
01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:55.479
opinions, now I just don't know
unless unless they're giving editorials. I don't

1394
01:49:55.600 --> 01:50:02.520
know, So can we, Brad? Is your concerned about this. Oh

1395
01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:06.399
yeah, they're very disturbed about it. Did they know you're calling me?

1396
01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:14.239
I know? Can you ask them
to call us for help? Seriously?

1397
01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:19.279
This could be an issue or not. Did any of the buyers ever tell

1398
01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:27.399
him why they withdrew their offer?
They just said because of h o A

1399
01:50:27.640 --> 01:50:32.439
issues. What did you know what
issues they are? No? I don't.

1400
01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:44.199
I'm My biggest thing that I was
concerned about is does h o A

1401
01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:47.279
have any right at all? But
in between a buyer and a sewer?

1402
01:50:47.760 --> 01:50:51.319
Okay, Brad, you keep asking
the same question. I keep giving you

1403
01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:59.079
the same answer. The answer is
if they are budding in, is it

1404
01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:09.960
one information that is truthful requested by
a potential buyer or is it too tortious

1405
01:51:10.520 --> 01:51:15.359
interference? What do you think?
We don't know yet? And why do

1406
01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:21.600
we not know because we don't know
the circumstances of the conversations. So what

1407
01:51:21.720 --> 01:51:30.079
I'm gonna do is what's that I'll
do like you said, and pass it

1408
01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:33.600
on to the UH, to the
feller. Here's what I would say.

1409
01:51:34.039 --> 01:51:39.039
I would say to your neighbor.
Hey, you know, Tom Martino listened

1410
01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:41.840
to this and said it could be
one of two things. It could be

1411
01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:48.520
serious or not but you maybe want
to find out and then say if you

1412
01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:53.119
want, he'd be happy to talk
to you. In fact, Brad,

1413
01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:55.920
what you could do is just give
him the three Well, give them three

1414
01:51:56.039 --> 01:52:00.800
h three Martino and then if they
just mention you, Brad, you know,

1415
01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:03.159
recommended I call, We'll take the
call. I would love to hear

1416
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:08.279
from them because I don't know what's
going on now. I will tell you

1417
01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:14.640
this. There have been crazy stories
in the past where hoa is if they

1418
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:19.279
don't want someone there, will lie
that's tortious interference or say things about,

1419
01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:24.760
well did you know that house had
foundation problems? Or you know, if

1420
01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:28.680
I were you, I'd look twice
because our ha is in big trouble and

1421
01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:33.960
we're going to have a massive,
you know, appraisal or assessment. So

1422
01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:39.479
it could be someone being devious.
We just have to know more details,

1423
01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:44.920
right and then we've had cases also, we've also had cases where neighbors did

1424
01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:49.880
not want someone to sell the house
because I don't know why. They were

1425
01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:58.239
just jerks and they would literally start
threatening the neighbor. Not threatening, but

1426
01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:00.840
they put up signs. One guy
I want to remember one time put up

1427
01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:11.960
a sign that says we play loud
music and party all night long. The

1428
01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:15.680
neighbor put that up on their yard. Now, if you're going to find

1429
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:19.439
a house and you see this big
handwritten you know, wouldn't you think okay,

1430
01:53:19.560 --> 01:53:24.479
turn around to leave. Because the
last thing anyone wants as soon as

1431
01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:29.039
they move into a house is or
I have vicious dogs, play loud music

1432
01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:31.399
and party all night long. I
mean, the last thing you want,

1433
01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:34.920
even if you love the house,
is a problem in the neighborhood. So

1434
01:53:35.079 --> 01:53:40.319
yeah, have them call me back
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1435
01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:45.039
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01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:56.479
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1442
01:54:21.239 --> 01:54:30.840
with Remax Alliance three all three nine
two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

1443
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:38.399
Martino, your troubleshooter. Three all
three seven one three talk seven one three

1444
01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:44.399
eight two five five. We have
Steve Cizik with us from Larsen tax Relief

1445
01:54:44.479 --> 01:54:49.039
dot Com. And we have some
questions for Steve. And uh, let

1446
01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:53.640
me just hear. I just saw
it some time on a tax question.

1447
01:54:53.800 --> 01:54:59.079
I filed taxes. Okay, let's
see tax question in twenty twenty three.

1448
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:02.079
I filed. Let me just make
this a little bigger here, okay.

1449
01:55:02.239 --> 01:55:09.720
I filed taxes for twenty twenty one. I was late. It calculated my

1450
01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:15.760
child tax credit as two grand.
However, I got an IRS letter indicating

1451
01:55:16.239 --> 01:55:23.199
I receive fifteen hundred as an average
as an advanced tax credit. I don't

1452
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:25.920
understand what that means. Do you
know what he said? I'm not really

1453
01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:30.039
sure it okay, okay, And
it says therefore only five hundred credit will

1454
01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:33.520
be applied. Oh, they said
he had already gotten some kind I never

1455
01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:36.760
even heard of an advanced child credit, have you There was a Yeah,

1456
01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:43.720
there's an increased credit with some changes
to the law under Trump. So you're

1457
01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:45.520
getting more money. First, he
says, I never got fifteen hundred,

1458
01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:49.840
So what do I do. I
only got so he's claiming they're not giving

1459
01:55:49.920 --> 01:55:55.199
him as his tax credit because he
already had gotten it, but he didn't

1460
01:55:55.239 --> 01:56:00.399
get it. And I'm not a
caller or texter, I'm not exact exactly

1461
01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:04.279
sure. How can I verify the
fifteen hundred was sent and where it went?

1462
01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:09.479
So let's talk about that in general. If payments were sent and hijacked

1463
01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:13.079
or whatever, what do you do? Does the IRS keep track of where

1464
01:56:13.159 --> 01:56:15.279
they sent it and when they sent
it? Well, I guess the first

1465
01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:16.840
step was to see if they sent
it. So that's when you call the

1466
01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:23.119
taxpayer transcript Okay, call the advocant. Well, yes, well if they

1467
01:56:23.279 --> 01:56:26.800
sent if they're if they proved on
the transcript, or they have record that

1468
01:56:26.880 --> 01:56:30.199
the IRIS sent the check, so
it'll say on the transcript fifteen hundred dollars

1469
01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:32.640
refund or whatever it is. And
you didn't receive it, that's when you

1470
01:56:32.680 --> 01:56:34.760
didn't need to connect with the advocates. Say hey, and I have never

1471
01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:40.760
received it. He got a letter
saying you got an advanced childcare credit and

1472
01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:45.840
he's not childcare. But what if
they actually call it it's a child tax

1473
01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:47.439
credit, which again I never heard
of. But I mean, that's just

1474
01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:49.960
it's it below the line credit.
Yeah, it's just basically, if you

1475
01:56:50.039 --> 01:56:53.600
don't owe anything, you almost you
get that money back. Okay. Also,

1476
01:56:53.680 --> 01:56:57.960
here's the next one. Then,
so he calls taxpayers that could asked

1477
01:56:57.960 --> 01:57:00.840
for a transcript of that check or
where it was sent, and they'll okay.

1478
01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:04.119
So if it was cash but it
was fraud, what do they do

1479
01:57:04.199 --> 01:57:08.439
about that? So if you can
prove that the check went out and was

1480
01:57:08.520 --> 01:57:11.840
cashed not into your account, then
advocate can actually help you to get that

1481
01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.880
money back. Okay. Yeah,
the diires will eat that. It's a

1482
01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:16.720
it's okay, fulating. That's really
good to know. Here's the next one.

1483
01:57:17.560 --> 01:57:26.920
I owe taxes from twoy eleven to
twenty twelve as a result as a

1484
01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:31.880
result of an audit in twenty thirteen. So I guess he owes taxes from

1485
01:57:31.960 --> 01:57:39.399
eleven to twelve based on a twenty
thirteen audit. So two years he owes

1486
01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:44.239
taxes. I have read that they
won't come after me after ten years.

1487
01:57:44.600 --> 01:57:47.279
So since this was eleven and twelve, do I have anything to worry about?

1488
01:57:49.479 --> 01:57:55.399
So the collection statutes are essentially a
ten year statute from the date in

1489
01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:59.800
which the assessment was made or the
date in which the return was It was

1490
01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:03.039
it made in twenty thirteen on the
audits, that's the question. So if

1491
01:58:03.119 --> 01:58:08.840
he was audited in thirteen, potentially
the audit carried through to fourteen or fifteen,

1492
01:58:08.960 --> 01:58:11.640
so you'd have to look and see
when they actually assessed him with those

1493
01:58:11.640 --> 01:58:15.000
additional balances, and that's when the
clock starts. So if it was made,

1494
01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:16.680
why I need to do anything,
he asked, Well, you know,

1495
01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:20.600
at this point you can call and
find out when those assessments were made

1496
01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:26.479
and then you can do that calculation. And actually that year, they absolutely

1497
01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:29.520
can't do anything right unless there's been
anything to delay it, which so if

1498
01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:32.039
you fileffer and compromise or an appeal
or something, that can tell that statute.

1499
01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:38.119
But if it's just been running and
let's say it was July have twenty

1500
01:58:38.199 --> 01:58:43.159
twenty three, it should have expired
by now, okay, now twenty thirteen.

1501
01:58:43.359 --> 01:58:47.880
Now, speaking of taxes and finance
and all of that, here's the

1502
01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:53.039
report from this month or late last
month, so it's brand new. For

1503
01:58:53.039 --> 01:59:00.840
the first quarter. Business optimism is
the lowest it's been since two thousand and

1504
01:59:00.479 --> 01:59:08.359
twelve. Now, what is a
small business optimism Index. What is it?

1505
01:59:09.680 --> 01:59:16.760
What it is is a perception of
what small businesses think of the economy

1506
01:59:17.039 --> 01:59:23.840
and their outlook. It's not necessarily
something that has happened. It's not a

1507
01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:29.880
lagging indicator. It's more of a
leading indicator, right, because this is

1508
01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:33.279
if they believe that there must be
a reason, or you could consider it

1509
01:59:33.800 --> 01:59:40.720
a lagging indicator, meaning what has
been going on leads them to believe this.

1510
01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:45.399
However, it doesn't matter. But
it is the research foundation for the

1511
01:59:45.479 --> 01:59:49.479
Small Business Economic Trends Council. Here's
the thing. There's an organization that put

1512
01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:58.239
this together called n FIB, and
NFIB is what they call themselves is the

1513
01:59:58.880 --> 02:00:04.399
Voice of Small Businessiness. And they
put together this Optimism Index, and it's

1514
02:00:04.479 --> 02:00:13.039
usually for small business. So here's
what they measure. Your plans to increase

1515
02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:18.760
employment. That's an indicator, that's
a leading indicator. And they say eleven

1516
02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:26.560
percent, meaning eleven percent will that's
a small number, all right? Then

1517
02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:32.359
they give that a score. Plans
to make capital outlays only twenty percent,

1518
02:00:33.680 --> 02:00:40.600
really bad right for small business.
Listen to this one. Plans to increase

1519
02:00:41.439 --> 02:00:48.319
inventories negative seven percent? I mean
that now, listen to this. Do

1520
02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:56.439
you expect the economy to improve negative
thirty six percent. Now, let me

1521
02:00:56.520 --> 02:01:01.880
tell you something. Even though they
call these percent indexes, when does perception

1522
02:01:02.920 --> 02:01:06.960
become reality. Well, let's put
it this way. If they don't believe

1523
02:01:08.479 --> 02:01:13.079
the economy is going to be good, they're going to hedge. They're going

1524
02:01:13.159 --> 02:01:15.600
to protect themselves, right, They're
not going to spend as much. They're

1525
02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:19.479
not going to make big capital investments, and they're not going to hire.

1526
02:01:19.840 --> 02:01:26.359
They're going to what I call be
in a defensive position. In a defensive

1527
02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:31.199
position, then you have them spending
less, hiring less, and you have

1528
02:01:32.039 --> 02:01:39.479
it leading into the market. If
several small businesses do that, do they

1529
02:01:39.600 --> 02:01:44.159
expect sales to go up? No? Eighteen percent. Here's what they figure,

1530
02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:47.399
a negative eighteen percent in sales,
that's the average on this survey.

1531
02:01:47.960 --> 02:01:56.640
They also believe current job openings right
now are way less than what the administration

1532
02:01:57.199 --> 02:02:01.960
is reporting. They say only thirty
seven percent of small businesses are even looking

1533
02:02:02.039 --> 02:02:08.920
to hire. Negative eight percent.
Is on whether whether or not you expect

1534
02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:14.880
good credit conditions. Is it a
good time to expand four percent of the

1535
02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:19.920
businesses say no, I mean yes, yes, only four percent. Ninety

1536
02:02:20.039 --> 02:02:26.000
six percent say not. A good
time to expand next earnings trends. What

1537
02:02:26.159 --> 02:02:31.319
are their actual earning trends. They're
downward negative. Twenty nine percent believe that's

1538
02:02:31.560 --> 02:02:36.800
that's how bad they believe the perception
is for earning trends. So that's a

1539
02:02:36.840 --> 02:02:42.680
big problem. And that and perception
a lot of times can dictate how businesses

1540
02:02:42.720 --> 02:02:45.680
operate. Well, it dictates how
people spend money. I mean, it's

1541
02:02:45.079 --> 02:02:50.239
it really is a real thing.
When people believe. For example, a

1542
02:02:50.319 --> 02:02:55.600
guy who feels he may be laid
off. He's not, but he feels

1543
02:02:55.680 --> 02:02:59.560
he might be, he might put
off a car purchase. If he puts

1544
02:02:59.640 --> 02:03:03.479
off a car purchase, that's going
to affect the manufacturers, dealers, salespeople,

1545
02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:08.840
AH support staff, sure gasoline,
and anecdotally, I mean, I

1546
02:03:08.920 --> 02:03:11.359
have these conversations a lot because it
is tax season, and I have a

1547
02:03:11.399 --> 02:03:13.960
lot of business owners calling me and
saying, well, I owe all these

1548
02:03:14.039 --> 02:03:16.000
taxes. You know, well,
how can I pay all these the economy

1549
02:03:16.079 --> 02:03:18.039
is going to be so bad.
But then you look at their p and

1550
02:03:18.119 --> 02:03:20.720
L and their taxes. There's a
reason why they owe so much taxes because

1551
02:03:20.720 --> 02:03:25.640
they had a banner year. And
the perception and reality are two different things.

1552
02:03:26.760 --> 02:03:29.560
It's it's something that these business owners
have to get their head wrapped around.

1553
02:03:29.600 --> 02:03:31.119
It's like, yes, I know
that there's pessimism in the economy right

1554
02:03:31.159 --> 02:03:33.880
now, but if you actually look
at your books, you're doing really well.

1555
02:03:35.079 --> 02:03:44.520
If you look at real a coincidental
current indicators, there's not many bad

1556
02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:45.840
ones. Right. No, they're
doing very well now. But that doesn't

1557
02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:48.279
mean that in three months. They
know you do that very well. But

1558
02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:53.359
why, I wonder why? And
listen, I'm not a big fan.

1559
02:03:53.479 --> 02:03:56.720
I'm not a big critic. I
don't want to get into the politics of

1560
02:03:56.880 --> 02:04:01.840
Biden. But he has not gotten
credit for anything, even the positive indicators.

1561
02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:06.079
But they do blame them for the
inflation and for rising gas and for

1562
02:04:06.279 --> 02:04:09.760
other things. Now, I'm not
saying, you know, let's all get

1563
02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:15.840
on byden Society's a great guy.
But truly, the indicators of the economy

1564
02:04:15.520 --> 02:04:20.640
do not indicate how bad. People
think. It is exactly right, exactly

1565
02:04:20.760 --> 02:04:27.279
right, and so they're preparing for
this eventual what they're worried about so crazy,

1566
02:04:27.760 --> 02:04:30.920
which is a crazy thing could happen. A lot of these positive things

1567
02:04:31.000 --> 02:04:38.199
can turn negative because people expect them
to God speak them into existence. Right,

1568
02:04:38.319 --> 02:04:42.199
So yeah, I think the negative
connotations in the economy right now are

1569
02:04:42.279 --> 02:04:45.720
not reflective of the economy, but
that doesn't mean that it may not lead

1570
02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:48.000
to that because of the way that
people are perceiving it, which is interesting.

1571
02:04:48.079 --> 02:04:53.600
It doesn't follow any current economic theory. That for me, it's hard

1572
02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:57.800
to track because I would like people's
opinions on that, even my YouTube morons.

1573
02:04:58.079 --> 02:05:00.680
Speaking of YouTube morons, one ass
what's going on with that Santa Fe

1574
02:05:01.239 --> 02:05:05.279
and Planet Hyundai. Uh well,
I'm going to ask, I believe who

1575
02:05:05.359 --> 02:05:09.840
did I ask to call over there, Deputy Chopper, And we're going to

1576
02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:20.039
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02:05:45.079 --> 02:06:01.840
nine two zero sixteen twenty two qualitative
Hi Tom Martino. You are a troubleshooter.

1583
02:06:01.960 --> 02:06:08.239
Three oh three seven one three talk
three oh three seven one three eight

1584
02:06:08.319 --> 02:06:13.359
two five five. What's going on
in your life? You know it's really

1585
02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:17.159
David. Uh it's really hard face. I'm going to go to you chopper

1586
02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:20.760
in a second here. Uh so
hang on with that planet Hyundai. We

1587
02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:25.079
want to know what you found out, David. What's going on with this

1588
02:06:25.199 --> 02:06:33.439
apartment eviction? It looks serious to
me? What's happening, David? David,

1589
02:06:33.479 --> 02:06:38.279
are you there, sir? Yes, I am. What's happening?

1590
02:06:39.560 --> 02:06:42.399
All right? I'm seventy three years
old. I had a stroke and I

1591
02:06:42.479 --> 02:06:45.159
have a short time memory. So
I would like to spend my problem to

1592
02:06:45.199 --> 02:06:48.399
you, and then you ComNet me
know what to do? Yeah, okay,

1593
02:06:48.520 --> 02:06:51.880
tell tell me what's going on?
You're seventy three? What's happening?

1594
02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:57.000
Back in February, I wasn't able
to pay my rent because I was sick

1595
02:06:57.159 --> 02:06:59.880
and I have a part time job
to how many payment for my rent?

1596
02:07:00.520 --> 02:07:04.359
So I didn't pay and you were
unable to pay rent. One month in

1597
02:07:04.479 --> 02:07:08.600
February, I didn't pay my rent. I got an eviction notice, so

1598
02:07:08.640 --> 02:07:11.600
I was waiting for the summons to
go to cart. Is that the only

1599
02:07:11.800 --> 02:07:15.840
time you skipped rent? And then
that's in February. I never got to

1600
02:07:15.880 --> 02:07:19.399
summons to go to cart. And
then in March I slipped rent again,

1601
02:07:19.439 --> 02:07:23.920
and I never got an adviction notice
from March, and I still never got

1602
02:07:23.960 --> 02:07:27.920
an adviction of summons to go to
cart. So come April, pourist.

1603
02:07:28.039 --> 02:07:30.920
I took my one month rent down
there for April, and I gave it

1604
02:07:31.039 --> 02:07:34.479
curious to ticket, but I asked
about February March. It's because well,

1605
02:07:34.600 --> 02:07:38.640
my bar is still looking at it. And then that's wait a minute,

1606
02:07:40.279 --> 02:07:43.479
you didn't pay February, you didn't
pay March, but you paid April.

1607
02:07:44.119 --> 02:07:47.600
And you said you got an eviction
notice but not a summons. No,

1608
02:07:47.880 --> 02:07:51.000
I never got a summons. I
got eviction one from February, but I

1609
02:07:51.079 --> 02:07:55.399
never got addiction one from March.
They don't have to give you another one

1610
02:07:55.479 --> 02:07:59.880
for March. There's just one eviction
notice. Then they served you with a

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02:08:00.079 --> 02:08:05.560
summons. I got that last night
after Okay, see, you were under

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02:08:05.600 --> 02:08:07.680
the impression they have to do every
month. They don't, so they did

1613
02:08:07.720 --> 02:08:11.119
it the right way. You got
a notice, and now they filed for

1614
02:08:11.159 --> 02:08:18.159
an eviction court action and you have
to be in court when in seventeenth of

1615
02:08:18.319 --> 02:08:26.600
what this month? Okay, so
a what's that? No, it doesn't

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02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:31.279
matter that April was applied. See
that's the problem. You can apply it

1617
02:08:31.319 --> 02:08:33.600
to April, but no matter,
or you can apply it to February.

1618
02:08:33.680 --> 02:08:37.039
You can apply it, but no
matter where you apply it, you're still

1619
02:08:37.119 --> 02:08:41.479
two months behind. Will they give
you any kind did you try to negotiate

1620
02:08:41.800 --> 02:08:48.439
a repayment schedule for those two months? Oh? Not yet, something,

1621
02:08:48.479 --> 02:08:52.520
I have to do it on the
seventeenth. Well, and the seventeenth you

1622
02:08:52.600 --> 02:08:58.680
go to court, right, and
most likely all the judge does is validate

1623
02:09:00.319 --> 02:09:05.319
that there's a lease and that it's
a legit charge. The judge is not

1624
02:09:05.439 --> 02:09:11.079
going to work out a payment plan, nor even suggest one. You need

1625
02:09:11.159 --> 02:09:16.479
to meet with them before you go
to court, because once they go to

1626
02:09:16.640 --> 02:09:24.119
court, you're gonna get an eviction
order and then they're going to move you

1627
02:09:24.199 --> 02:09:31.439
out. All right. Somebody telling
me once they accepted April rent that they

1628
02:09:31.520 --> 02:09:37.439
got to start the eviction over.
No they don't, No, they don't.

1629
02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:43.920
Okay, in the eviction notice,
the thing you're calling a notice,

1630
02:09:45.159 --> 02:09:48.359
did they ask for payment they have? Yeah, they said I have thirty

1631
02:09:48.439 --> 02:09:54.520
days to come up with the payment. Why didn't you? What's that?

1632
02:09:54.479 --> 02:09:58.840
Why didn't you? I didn't have
it? Oh, I see, okay,

1633
02:10:01.840 --> 02:10:07.399
how much is your rent? How
much is your rent? So you

1634
02:10:07.640 --> 02:10:13.600
owe? You owe twenty nine hundred
dollars for those two months, right right?

1635
02:10:13.000 --> 02:10:22.319
Yes? Plus you owe probably legal
fees. So what's the total you'd

1636
02:10:22.399 --> 02:10:24.239
have to pay to get out of
eviction? Is there an amount they will

1637
02:10:24.319 --> 02:10:30.359
take? No, I haven't talked
to nobody yet. Nobody. I haven't

1638
02:10:30.399 --> 02:10:33.399
talked to nobody. No. No, they usually do want to talk.

1639
02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:37.000
They usually do want to settle.
They don't want to go to court.

1640
02:10:37.039 --> 02:10:39.800
If they don't have to, you
have time to call them. But what

1641
02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:43.840
difference does it? Well? No, no, it does make a difference.

1642
02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:50.239
If you ask for a payment schedule, I will call them and talk

1643
02:10:50.279 --> 02:10:54.199
to my learn who work with me. If you listen, would you call

1644
02:10:54.520 --> 02:10:58.159
call us back if you can't?
But the first thing I would do is

1645
02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:05.560
all say you know, I got
behind because blah blah blah, and then

1646
02:11:05.119 --> 02:11:09.720
I want to make up the back
rent. Can you give me a payment

1647
02:11:09.800 --> 02:11:13.720
schedule on top of my regular rent? That's what I would do, But

1648
02:11:13.960 --> 02:11:18.880
don't don't go in their half cock
thinking they can't evict you because you paid

1649
02:11:18.920 --> 02:11:24.640
your rent. Once you're late on
rent, they can start the eviction process

1650
02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:28.319
until it's paid. They don't have
to file every time you're late. You

1651
02:11:28.399 --> 02:11:33.800
don't get a notice. Okay.
I also was sold that they had to

1652
02:11:35.079 --> 02:11:39.640
give me a summons to go to
cart with you ten days I think after

1653
02:11:39.720 --> 02:11:45.760
the eviction, after the thirty days
up. So there is no no see

1654
02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:50.439
you look it. I don't know
the exact process. I always I always

1655
02:11:50.479 --> 02:11:54.079
get hung up on it. But
here's here's what I want you to know.

1656
02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:58.119
They probably have a right to do
what they're doing, and to fight

1657
02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:03.880
the process, says is stupid.
And here's why. Here's why. It

1658
02:12:05.279 --> 02:12:09.640
just starts the process again. Even
if you were right, and you're not.

1659
02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:13.119
But even if you were, it
would start the process again. You

1660
02:12:13.159 --> 02:12:18.960
would gain nothing. They're still going
to evict you. Oh yeah, tell

1661
02:12:18.000 --> 02:12:22.239
me this, what tell me this? What good would it do if they

1662
02:12:22.359 --> 02:12:26.279
had to start the process again for
you? How would that change your life?

1663
02:12:26.319 --> 02:12:33.399
Nothing? Change nothing? Right.
The only thing that would change something

1664
02:12:35.520 --> 02:12:43.439
is if you could pay it back
somehow. I'm a concien make I'll pay

1665
02:12:43.479 --> 02:12:45.880
you. Why don't you do that? Would you call us back. I'm

1666
02:12:45.920 --> 02:12:48.960
gonna mark this down so I remember
you. You call us back, okay,

1667
02:12:50.079 --> 02:12:54.039
David, all right, no seriously, and like I said, when

1668
02:12:54.079 --> 02:12:56.560
you do it, don't make it
sound like, Hey, you guys didn't

1669
02:12:56.600 --> 02:13:01.199
evict me, right, you didn't
give me the right notice and right time.

1670
02:13:01.359 --> 02:13:03.359
Just say, listen, I have
to go to court. Is there

1671
02:13:03.399 --> 02:13:07.920
a way we can settle this beforehand? I am willing to go on a

1672
02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:11.119
payment plan. I'm disabled. I
had a stroke. Then call me back.

1673
02:13:11.199 --> 02:13:16.159
Okay, all right, let me
know. Thank you, David,

1674
02:13:16.279 --> 02:13:18.119
thank you. Let me know.
I hope that works. We have more

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1685
02:14:18.720 --> 02:14:26.319
your troubleshooter three O three seven one
three talk seven one three talk seven

1686
02:14:26.359 --> 02:14:33.439
one three two five five. Deputy
Chopper, we have this Planet Hyundai situation

1687
02:14:33.119 --> 02:14:37.680
that advertised a vehicle and wouldn't sell
it for that price. We've had other

1688
02:14:37.760 --> 02:14:43.960
complaints about that happening with Planet Hyundai, and I asked a simple question.

1689
02:14:43.479 --> 02:14:48.359
We identified a vehicle on their website. They had a price on it.

1690
02:14:48.560 --> 02:14:50.520
I wanted to know, will they
sell it for that? What did they

1691
02:14:50.640 --> 02:14:56.399
say? The problem, they said
was the webmaster had put in the wrong

1692
02:14:56.479 --> 02:15:01.159
amounts. I give it. That's
okay. That would be the second time

1693
02:15:01.239 --> 02:15:03.399
he put in the wrong amount.
Then okay, But this thing really just

1694
02:15:03.520 --> 02:15:09.159
got weird. I talked to the
sales manager. He says, they will

1695
02:15:09.319 --> 02:15:13.119
sell them for the price that they
had showed thirty seven. Uh no,

1696
02:15:13.239 --> 02:15:16.640
actually they wanted thirty eight two oh
seven. When I talked to him,

1697
02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:22.439
right that was on the website.
Right. However, just now the price

1698
02:15:22.520 --> 02:15:28.079
of that car has dropped down to
thirty five seven oh seven. Why,

1699
02:15:28.199 --> 02:15:31.920
I just looked at it, and
he says he will sell it for that

1700
02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:37.800
price. However, the trailer,
hitch and installed everything will be an additional

1701
02:15:39.359 --> 02:15:43.720
eight hundred and fifty eight dollars.
But eight hundred and fifty eight and thirty

1702
02:15:43.800 --> 02:15:48.920
five seven oh seven is just about
what that tim wanted. So I want

1703
02:15:48.960 --> 02:15:52.640
to call it right, and it
is what he wanted. But see,

1704
02:15:52.760 --> 02:15:56.159
here's the problem with these people.
They advertise I see it now, it's

1705
02:15:56.279 --> 02:16:05.640
now thirty five seven, but they
still have the damn toe package listed as

1706
02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:11.439
an option, when really that's an
extra eight hundred dollars. That's true,

1707
02:16:11.479 --> 02:16:15.319
but let me tell you what they
say. The toe package on the Santa

1708
02:16:15.399 --> 02:16:20.319
Cruz is only the wiring from let's
say, the tail light to the receiver.

1709
02:16:20.600 --> 02:16:22.960
It doesn't hook up to the receiver. So when you look on for

1710
02:16:24.119 --> 02:16:28.479
what a but does it have a
receiver? No, okay, that's not

1711
02:16:28.600 --> 02:16:31.720
part of it. It's just the
wiring that would go down to the receiver.

1712
02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:37.200
Then then is that is that is
that proper to call it a toe

1713
02:16:37.319 --> 02:16:39.920
package? I know that's not such
a big deal. But is it proper

1714
02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:43.440
to call it a toe package?
I would call it a wiring package.

1715
02:16:45.159 --> 02:16:48.600
Yeah, I mean, you know
this is a great price. Did you

1716
02:16:48.760 --> 02:16:52.879
talk to Tim because he should go
buy it. He was willing to pay

1717
02:16:52.920 --> 02:16:56.200
that in the very beginning. No, the price just dropped as I was

1718
02:16:56.280 --> 02:16:58.840
getting ready to, Okay, call
him. Do you have his number?

1719
02:16:58.719 --> 02:17:03.600
Yes? I do. Tim.
I don't know if it was because of

1720
02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:07.479
us, but that damn price went
down to thirty five seven oh seven.

1721
02:17:07.000 --> 02:17:11.639
And even let's not even argue about
the toe package, because even if you

1722
02:17:11.879 --> 02:17:16.000
add the dang toe package, what
does it come to. Did you actually

1723
02:17:16.120 --> 02:17:20.159
do the math on the thirty five
to seven oh seven? What did he

1724
02:17:20.239 --> 02:17:28.280
say it was gonna cost? Eight
eight fifty eight equals thirty six five sixty

1725
02:17:28.440 --> 02:17:33.559
five. So for thirty six five
sixty five, Bro, you get that

1726
02:17:33.719 --> 02:17:37.680
one you wanted with the toe package
you wanted. And that's a great deed.

1727
02:17:37.760 --> 02:17:41.360
Tom. There's one more quick,
go ahead, quick, he said,

1728
02:17:41.399 --> 02:17:46.079
go to U haul for the toe
package. They're cheaper. Oh cool?

1729
02:17:46.520 --> 02:17:50.079
All right? Hey, by the
way, uh, Larsontax Relief dot

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