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let's go talk some more about the
riveting or at least they should be

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twenty twenty two NBA Playoffs with Brian
to pour at Now, do you want

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to do Brooklyn and Boston? Yes? Please? Overarching thoughts on this series,

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which is just don't I don't even
know what to make of it.

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Everything in my gut. I mean, well, here's the first question,

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and I don't think we necessarily they
have the answer because I know he's been

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out for a while, but Boston
is SAT guys. Then they were playing

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other teams that SAT guys. How
much does not having Robert Williams the third

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impact Boston's defense. Bruce Brown seems
to think it will by the way,

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Caffeine Pride. What Kevin Durand said. That was caffeine Pride talking. That's

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my new favorite. I didn't see
that. That's fantastic. Might say something

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inflammatory or stupid on the pot of
say Caffeine Pride. Sorry, that's amazing.

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Yeah, I knew Kadi was not
a fan of the comments. I

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did not see that specific quote.
Wow, that's awesome. Look, but

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he needs to put more respect on
Bruce Brown's name. He's shooting fifty four

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percent from three over the last month. He's doing like little playmakings out of

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the short role basically, yeah,
and doing what he does on defense.

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So Bruce Brown could say whatever the
fuck Bruce Brown wants. Yeah, without

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Bruce Brown, they lose to the
Calves and they're they're playing Miami instead of

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the Celtics, So he can Bruce
Brown. Honestly, it might be the

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third best player right now. Oh
god, you're probably not wrong, because

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the other candidate would be. It
hasn't been Seth Curry, that's for sure.

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Yeah, Seth Curry's on a bomb
ankle might have been Nick Claxton,

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which also wasn't necessarily like great news, but I love Nick Claxton, so

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yeah, which, well, Biggs
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it's a fair question going back to
how it affects their defense. Honestly,

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it might not matter because their perimeter
defense is so good. Like this is

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another one where you know, I
know, the Nets are still considered one

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of the title favorites out East and
there is a chance that they win this

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series because Kyrie and Kevin Durant are
just so singularly great that I mean,

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you know, with the playing game
on Tuesday, it's like the Cavs cut

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down the Nets lead and seemed like
they were going to get back into that

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game, and then every single time
they did, Kevin Durant just pulls up

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from mid range jumper. It's like, no, I'm gonna keep you guys

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just enough at Bay to maintain in
this league. Now. I mean,

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the Celtics do have plenty of options
to throw at him, but Robert Williams

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would have been a key piece for
both Durant and Irving, just preventing drives

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to the basket for Irving. Like, with all due respect to the eighty

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six year old Al Horford, who
has been good this year. He is

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definitely not going to be the same
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think, especially like that, it
makes me so mad how well the Derek

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White trade worked out for the Celtics, But between him, Smart Tatum Brown

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like, they have a number of
options to throw with both of those guys.

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So I think they will miss Williams
in this series, but that won't

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be the reason they lose. If
they do lose, I'm almost wondering.

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I don't want to call it a
blessing in disguise, but it forces you

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to. I mean, in one
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Williams plus six point five points per
possession permanent possessions on the season, still

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have an elite defense. I'm just
wondering because of Brooklyn set up specifically,

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I don't real that you necessarily want
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a period of time, and just
looking at how the Calves went after Kevin

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Durant and Kyrie Irving down the stretch
of that playing game, Boston is built

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to do the same thing and do
it better. You still put yourself in

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compromising positions but if you're playing Tatum
and Smart and Brown and then White instead

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of Williams and Horford, and then
Horford's in the middle, Like, is

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it a little easier to do that
because like you just have those four perimeter

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guys who can fly around or maybe
it's hey, Marcus Smart, Like you

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can just stay on Kevin Durant,
or you can just stay on Kyrie Irving

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and then we'll go after the other
one and try and force the ball out

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of their hands. And even if
it's we're just gonna throw everything we have

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at them. Regardless of who it
is. That lineup where you have those

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four perimeter players is just built to
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than Williams Horford in the front court. This all goes without saying I'd prefer

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to have william him in the front
court of that lineup than Horford, just

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because he's so much quicker on the
perimeter now. But I think the one

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big setup actually makes a lot of
sense for Boston in this series. Which

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is not to say I think that
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I just don't know that this is
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them as much. Yeah, I
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have Grant Williams as well, and
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like if they're going against you know, if Boston is going against Gianness or

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is going against Joel Embiid or Nikola
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concerning. But now you're living with
Andre Drummond taking anything that isn't a lot

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dunk or just an offensive putback if
it means getting the ball out of Kevin

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Durant and Kyrie Irving's hands. So
yeah, I think, or I mean,

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Bruce Brown led the team. I
just praise Bruce Brown, but you

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know led the team in that playing
game with nineteen shot attempts. You will

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live with all nineteen of those if
it means Kadi and Kyrie are not taking

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those. So I'm with you.
I think that the four Smart White,

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Tatum Brown, like you can basically
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you take turns on Kyrie and Seth
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turns on Kadi, and when every
one of you guys needs a breather,

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you can defend Brown on the short
roll like, I think the Celtics matchup

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defensively really well against Brooklyn, and
then that's do not match up really well

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defensively against Bossett. The I have
so renny big questions for this series,

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but sort of you touching upon this, what is Brooklyn's most used five man

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lineup in this series or what is
Brooklyn's closing lineup in tight games for this

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series? We know that they have
Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving like those are

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set in stone? Is Bruce Brown
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I think he has to be just
again for d defense defense primarily, but

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how they use him as like a
de facto big man. I think he's

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got to be in there. We
saw a lot of Nick Clackson. I

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think he probably is in there as
well. And then that fifth spot,

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it's like whichever one of Seth Curry, Patty Mill's Gore and drug it's just

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shooting the best that night would be
my guess. I'm wondering if this is

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the series and maybe not because they
have Horford where you know, we saw

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it they closed the game against the
comprom behind victory against the Knicks where it

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was Kevin Durant and Bruce Brown in
the front court. I'm wondering if we

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see those looks at all in this
series, do they take Robert Williams' absence

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as an opportunity to try and do
that. I'd just be I'd be curious

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to see, especially, I mean
if, yeah, if they have Daniel

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Tis playing like that might even be
more of a incentive to do that,

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just because he's not going to be
able to keep pacing that line up.

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Bruce Brown already imply that he's cat
nip apparently to offense. I'm when you

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go through the matchups though for booking
on defense, and I think they've overachieved

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that point's defensively this season. It's
almost entirely because of unlucky opponent shooting,

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like and they do have a fairly
good shot profile, like more recently,

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like they were in the top five
of opponent three point in tenh three and

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so like that can that can be
a part of scheme, but it also

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just might be because their interior is
so inviting and when Andre Drummond isn't on

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the court essentially that that that helps
the volume there. What is like who

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is guarding who for the nets?
At this point, Like who is drawing

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the You know, Bruce Brown's gonna
get somebody, But like, who is

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Brooklyn's second most important perimeter defender again
in the series. But I think you

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can make the case that Claston's just
their most valuable defender in general, It's

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got to be Kevin Durant, right, Like I assume Brown and Durant are

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going to just switch back and forth
between Brown and Tatum throughout the series because

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they have no other good options unless
you know, Ben Simmons, he is

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able to make his debut at some
point. Ben Simmons is back, could

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be the X factor for the series. It honestly could be. Like I'm

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very skeptical that he actually does play, and you know, if he does,

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I can't imagine they're like, all
right, even played basketball and ten

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months at this point, go play
thirty five minutes a night. So like,

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no, maybe they play him for
ten, fifteen, twenty, But

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like, who else do they have? They don't have another good option to

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depend either of those guys. No, they don't. And I was I

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was also going to say, like
Boston's half court offense, to look and

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feel of it sometimes is spotty,
but they've been first in half court efficiency

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since the trade deadline. So it's
just like you're gonna just run out of

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and they have so many guys who
can at least hit shots. Maybe they're

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not always making these complicated plays,
but who are you putting Kyrie Irring on?

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Yeah in this series, like it's
just Seth Curry. Yeah. I

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just think Boston is going to have
so many guys they can hunt. Like

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I think when Seth is on the
floor, they will hunt him. When

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Patty Mills is on the floor,
they will hunt him. When Druga is

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on the floor, they will hunt
him. When Kyrie is on the floor,

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they're going to go after him.
You know, Kyrie has played well

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defensively in stretches, but is that
going to sap some of his offensive efficiency,

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Like if he's not having one of
these unconscious shooting nights, is that

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going to turn the tide in a
game or in the entire series. So

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it just feels like Boston has so
many more areas to attack, and you

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bring up a good point like maybe
then that's just doubled down and say,

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you know what if we can if
we go small and we do do Durant

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Brown Kyrie Seth and either Patty or
Draggage. Sure, maybe Horford mashes up

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on mashes us on post ups,
but like we'll live with that because again

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it's a math problem us that we're
going to knock down Enough three is that

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and al Horford post up is an
age is not super efficient in general,

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and b is only gonna be wear
two points in set of three. Yeah,

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I just the math there starts up. But again they have Kevin Durant.

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The other thing here is I'm gonna
set They've both averaged about forty minutes

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since the middle of March, Kevin
Ran and Kyrie Irving. What is our

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I'm gonna set the over under at
forty one for each of them? Are

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you taking the over underd minutes for
this series over for Durant? For sure?

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But I mean that's you know,
it's concerning. It's like, you

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hope he stays healthy, but at
a certain point, I mean he's just

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had to play so many minutes for
this team, thirty seven point two on

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the year. Now he missed twenty
seven games and Kybrie has missed fifty three,

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so fresh legs potentially, But you
know, we saw some signs of

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Kyrie like fading down the stretch of
the regular season. Steve Dash was saying,

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like, that's just part of him
just getting back up to being a

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full time player. It's like,
well, that probably could have been rectified

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earlier this season. So, I
mean, like I don't remember. I

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know they released the full schedule,
but like I don't remember if they have

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a two days off at one point, but you know, they're playing almost

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every other day at this point,
and he's looked gassed in a couple of

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fourth quarters. I'm not even trolling
him, but like, yeah, you're

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going from one to two day work
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Is it like that's three or four
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type of load up this minute's load. It's it's at least a factor in

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this And look, it's not going
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up against I mean, actually the
Cavs defense is exhausted, but like you're

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going up against Boston's defense, which
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basically the entire year. Yeah,
yeah, exact, like you have to

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go against Marcus Smart and Derek White, you get no reprief. Yeah,

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So I'm just which leads me to, well, we have to I was

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gonna jump to predictions. Who is
your ex factor for Brooklyn in this series,

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assuming that Ben Simmons does not play, I will say Bruce Brown.

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Actually it would be your thoughts on
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stupid to bring him back now,
right? That puts him in just me

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a no win situation. Just it's
not the fact that he hasn't played in

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a year. It's the fact that
this is also a new team and you're

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just going to integrate him in midstream
of a playoff series against what's been the

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second best team in the East all
season and arguably the best team in the

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East for a half this season.
I just don't And theoretically he makes so

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much sense defensively because they just don't
have guys who make sense defensively. But

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I've questioned, and most people disagree
with me. I've questioned his offensive fit.

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He is used. He played in
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he's used. That wasn't the best
version of Ben Simmons. He's used to

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having the ball in his hands and
while Katie and Kyrie Ken space the floor

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around Ben Simmons. I doubt either
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hands that much so that they can
kauto to Ben Simmons and the whole.

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I would be fascinated by seeing Ben
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we saw a lot in Philly,
so it's not just something that he's done.

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And when he did do it,
like the results were, the results

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weren't great. So I'm just there
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answer. Do it in training camp
and also back injuries are fickle. I'm

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just I know there's gonna be the
discussion, Oh, should Ben Simmons come

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back? There was the video of
him hitting jumpers that the Nets posted.

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I don't know if you saw what
I posted on that though I quote tweeted

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it with the first time like Sixers
fans reacting to Mets fans Seamus, oh,

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first time Ben Simmons. Yeah,
I'm so happy I do not have

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to find over Ben Simmons work up
videos anymore. I'll say that much,

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but I completely agree with you it. Like I wrote a post over at

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fours late in March, I think
whereas just like it just feels like they're

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running out of time on this season, Like, I just don't see a

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way for all of the reasons you
mentioned, especially offensively, Like yeah,

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okay, he would make sense of
the Bruce Brown short role, the short

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role role that he was playing.
But I don't think teams defend Ben Simon

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is the same way that they do
Bruce Brown because Bruce Brown is at least

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willing to take jump shots or take
floaters or take three pointers. And you

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know, unless Ben comes out and
is more willing to do that in Brooklyn

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than he was in Philly. Like
I think Boston in particular that has had

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a lot of success defending him over
the years, especially in the playoffs.

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Like again, it just comes down
to specific personnel, Like you can put

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Jaylen Brown on Ben Simmons and you
still have Tatum to put on Kevin Durant

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or vice versa. And I don't
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Like you're you're expecting nothing out of
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I think the only hope is you
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and his defense can help swing a
game. Who's your ex factor for Brooklyn

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in this series? Then? Yeah, it's Bruce Brown. I mean,

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they're just gonna need someone else.
I like Seth Curry's been dealing with this

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ankle injury. He's just not himself. You know, maybe they can get

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these multiple shooting lineup going and maybe
that can you know, play the Celtics

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into or like the you know,
the Nets can play any of the Celtics

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bigs off the floor. But even
if they can, like I, you

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know, put out Peyton Pritchard or
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and I still think the Celtics have
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So they need a lot out of
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floor as to have a chance of
hole in this upset. He's minus factor

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as well, And there's also just
a notion of, yeah, they're gonna

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put him in actions on offense,
so it'll be a little bit different from

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when he's not directly involved in the
action. I would hazard that Boston is

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just basically knocking a guard him like
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like they're not going to read into
his three point percent. They're gonna be,

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hey, make these if we're gonna
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fine, I'm tempted to go Claxton
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being the most played big for them
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towards small ball. And we also
saw how he can help in a game

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like Cleveland where if the Celtics try
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I even thought about, like because
of Seth Curry's injury and just if they

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decide to lean in the offense,
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X factor there, but it's Bruce
Brown just because the workload he's gonna have

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to shoulder defensively. Yeah, yeah, totally. Speaking of injured stars and

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Luca as we're recording this is doing
some work on the exercise bike with Maxi

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Cleveland so Maps, Maps and five
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We haven't heard anything on as of
this recording about whether he's going to

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play. I think the assumption is
that the sort of extra week off is

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going to do him just fine.
And I'm of the mind that if he's

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gonna play, I trust that he's
going to be really good because he is

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someone who has had to come back
from injuries even in the playoffs before.

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He's just such a He's just so
fucking great. Like there's just you're not

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going to get me to doubt Steph
Curry. But Nuggets won't have Jamal Murray

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and Michael Porter Jr. Warriors probably
will have Steph. What are just your

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overarching thoughts on this series? Oh, we didn't do predictions for NETS Boston.

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My god, I'm a terrible podcast. Who do you have in the

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Nets Boston series? I have Boston
in six and I almost want to go

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Boston five. I think Kevin Durant
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Maybe Kyrie does as well, but
the matchups are just so bad for

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Brooklyn against Boston. It just feels
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I'm gonna double down on my taint
that I just don't view the next as

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contenders this season, and it's not
through any sort of just malice or agenda.

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The defense, I think is just
going to be abominable against better teams

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of the course for seven game series, and I question whether both Kyrie Irving

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and Keimer Durant can keep what they're
doing up at this scale when you look

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at the minutes they're playing, and
I'm more concerned about Kyrie Irving because of

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his role this year. I'm going
to Boston in five, love it.

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Love it. Now we can go
to Warriors Nuggets. What are your own

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marking thoughts on that series? I
mean, what did the Warriors do against

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Nikola Yoka, who is apparently heading
to his second straight MVP Award and well

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deserved MVP award If they can figure
out how to pord it to Drew Handlin

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that's true. Oh yeah, I'm
sorry. Is this an advanced analytics podcast

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or are we friendly here? Were
not friendly? I don't know what the

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hit a left handed lighteup in a
free throw? Probably not honestly, so

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I guess I'm not a real hooper. I can definitely hit a left hand

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and lay up. I might be
able to hit the free throw of him,

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allowed to shoot it with my hand
and make it a hook shot.

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There we go. The only thing
in my repertoire as a left handed hook

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shot. No, I mean that's
the key, if they if the Warriors

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can somehow handle Yokich, any aspect
of Yokich, whether score, rebounder,

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passer, If they can limit his
effectiveness in even one of those three departments,

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they probably win this series going away. But I mean, if Steph

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is not back, or if he
is limited in any way, it's much

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like Luca that at least opens the
door for a Nuggets team that probably overachieved

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all year given the absences of Murray
and Porter. And then I mean it

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doesn't right, it doesn't sound like
either of those guys are going to come

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back. But I love that the
playoffs just have like a bunch of these

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series where it's like, well,
what if Kauai all of a sudden coming

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back? We like, what if
Murray and Porter all of a sudden decide

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what if Ben Simmons plays, Like, of those four Kauai, Porter,

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Junior, Murray and Ben Simmons,
if you had to pick one, And

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I don't think I'm forgetting any like
major injuries, because Stephen Luca are going

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to play at some point. Yeah, of those four, who would you

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be most likely to return? God, I don't think Kaui. It's just

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so hard to know because like it's
Kauai for me, because I just I

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feel like there's a power vacuum in
the West to where if I think that

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the full strength Warriors team is close
to the Suns, but for me,

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it is the Phoenix Suns and everybody
else. If the Warriors look at all

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vulnerable at the start of like that, like if the Nuggets beat the Warriors

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or they like got out to it, I could just see and the Clippers

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are in the playoffs, let's just
see with that point, I just see

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quite like you fuck it, I'm
gonna come back, and the opportunity the

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Warriors look for a week, if
we can beat the Suns, We've become

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title favorites. I wouldn't take them
to beat the Suns, but I'm just

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that's my logic there. Yeah,
I mean that that would be their hardest

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tess if they win the one eight, like they are probably cruising to the

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finals at that point. Yeah,
I'm with you there, But I'm sorry

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for interrupting. That was just we
have so many of these like, oh

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will they won't they? And they're
not really looming over because let's just be

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honest, they won't, but if
they were, I think it would be

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cool. Yeah. Yeah, But
so I'm assuming neither of those neither Murray

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and Porter playing in the series,
or if they do, they play very

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limited minutes. So I mean,
like the Nuggets bench was an absolute crime

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scene for the first half of the
year, and then the addition of DeMarcus

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Cousins, the addition of Brent Forbes
and Bones Highland just really getting comfortable in

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his role has been a big thing
for them. So, you know,

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I think the Nuggets don't have the
top end talent to compete with the Warriors

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outside of Yoki, so they're gonna
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You know, How do the Warriors
contain Yokich? I think is the single

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biggest question of the series from either
side. Yeah, I'm assuming we're gonna

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see a lot of Draymond Green on
Yokich, but I also and I haven't

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decide on my X factors just yet, but like it might be Cavan Looney

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if only because is he gonna use
all six of his fouls to make life

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tough on yo Kis? But he
will see time because they're gonna play Green

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and Looney together. They're just you
know, and that's to probably help them

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on the defensive class as well.
They've generally been in a like they've gotten

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by excuse me as defense. As
a defensive rebounding team, but like that

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probably gets a lot harder if you're
using Wiggins or Porter as your other guy

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next to next to Draymond against a
team with Yokit. So yeah, and

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I don't know how that looks.
But I also wonder, like, how

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does yokitch match up with the Warriors, who like they're gonna be you know,

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they're like they move so fast even
when they're not moving so fast,

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so like they're eighth in average offensive
possession time, but I think that undersells

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how fast they can actually move in
the half court, and that like couldn't

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make life difficult on him, because
as good as he is on defense,

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or is not bad as he is
on defense, like this is not great

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hands in the right spots, but
there are just some things where it's like

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if Steph turns a corner, if
Jordan Pool turns a corner, or if

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like Klay Thompson is flying around him, and like the Warriors are forcing switches

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or setting these off ball screens,
like what do you what do you do?

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And so this feels like a uniquely
bad matchup for both sides of the

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coin, where it's like I don't
know how you go about defending Yokich.

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But I also don't know that Yoki
matches up all that well defensively against Golden

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State. Yeah. No, that's
a fair point. I mean that's if

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Looney's on the floor, that gives
him an out. I think. So,

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you know, how much do we
see of the quote unquote like death

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lining up two point zero or three
point zero, where they do you know,

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Steph playing Pool, Wiggins and Drain
just to give yo kids nowhere to

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hide defensively? We're just assuming,
like who gets the primary Steph assignment?

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Do we just assume that it's Aaron
Gordon? I guess? I mean the

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Nuggets don't really have a good option, I mean Gordon Knight, Yeah,

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because like Jeff Green maybe gets a
little bit of time on him, But

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I don't love that Will Barton Monte
Morris, Like this is another way.

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It's similar to Brooklyn Boston, where
it's like Warriors have a lot of potentially

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good answers for the Nuggets. The
Nuggets do not have a ton of good

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answers for the Warriors. I'm wondering
how big the Nuggets bench becomes in this

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just if we assume that Yokis plays
forty minutes, how do they how do

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they go about, like, are
we going to see some of the smaller

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front courts then where it's Jeff Green
is the five and maybe Jamke Green kind

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of fallows by the wayside, or
maybe do you go go to a Jeff

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Green Jamichael Green combination here, I'd
be more intrigued, like one of the

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Greens and then Aaron Gordon a sort
of populating your front court in those minutes.

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Because the Warriors, just like Wiseman's
not go we already know he's not

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gonna play this season, and whether
it's Lunear, whether it's Draymond, like,

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you're not gonna have like the Warriors
aren't gonna have this traditional but you're

404
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,960
not gonna worry about Beelitza either,
So they're not gonna have this traditional being

405
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,920
in the middle, and that could
provide a unique opportunity I think through the

406
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:30,359
bench in many ways also because if
you're I don't know how you're mirroring the

407
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,200
non Steph minutes for the Warriors.
The Warriors offense is back to being a

408
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,279
disaster without Steph Curry. I know
Jordan Poole has come on play. Thompson

409
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:44,119
has been great over his last ten
games or so. But since Seth up

410
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,279
set, Steph Curry went down.
And there's a lot of noise in this

411
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,559
because of the teams they faced and
also who they played. But the Warriors

412
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:55,920
are twenty fifth in points scored per
possession. Like that is Steph Curry's MVP

413
00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:00,119
case right there, Like you've off
differentials that you took this dude away and

414
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,920
the offense still imploded while you had
two guys playing their best basketball the season,

415
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,920
at least for Kay Thompson certainly,
And like, how are you getting

416
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,559
by if you're the Warriors in those
minutes? I'm assuming it's a lot of

417
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:17,839
Jordan Pool and Clay Thompson, But
do you have like is that is that

418
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,000
enough? Just because Klay Thompson has
been so good, but I feel like

419
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:26,039
he's gotten better and in part because
like he's just not forcing it as much.

420
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:27,880
He doesn't feel like he's putting the
ball on the floor as much,

421
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:33,079
and without Steph Curry and the threat
of him doing literally everything whether he has

422
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,759
the ball or not, like you
do need some of that on ball jet

423
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:40,839
fuel. It's not newsflash. It's
not gonna be Andrew Wiggins. Like let's

424
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,920
just let's not pretendin yeah, excuse
me, all star starter Andrew Wiggins,

425
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:49,799
it's gonna be Jordan Pool then,
Like yeah, and they've been pretty religious

426
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,799
about like we're not going to see
a lot of dre without Steth, Like

427
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,039
those are two that are maybe it's
different in the playoffs, but those are

428
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,839
two players that we're going to see
a lot of time together. And so

429
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,440
is that I guess I'm asking questions
about both. I don't want to call

430
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,359
it their benches because like we're involving
Clay Thompson and like I don't like Jordan

431
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,559
Pool's like just been one of their
most important players all season and it's not

432
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,799
even depth overall, But like some
of the non I guess I'm questioning what

433
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,880
the non star minutes look like for
both teams. You take stuff off the

434
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,559
court, you take yokis off the
court, who has the edge, like

435
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,559
in that scenario, not even head
to head, but like who whose rotation

436
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,599
do you trust more without their star
in it? Yeah? I mean again,

437
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:36,799
I think the Warriors have more top
end talent even with Sam's step stands

438
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:44,559
yok Like you feel better if it's
like Clay and Pool anchoring than I don't

439
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:48,160
even know would be anchoring for the
war for the Nuggets. But I will

440
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,799
say Bowen Thailand maybe the spoiling my
ex factor here, but like I don't

441
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:56,279
even know if he would be my
ex factor for the series. But he

442
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,319
is the exact type of guy where
it's like this guy can hit three or

443
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,640
four threes in three minutes and all
of a sudden, the twelve point lead

444
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:10,319
is gone. So like he is
very capable. I'm swinging a game like

445
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,640
I would trust Pool more over the
course of a series, but like Highland

446
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,640
is the exact type of guy that
the Nuggets will need to spring an upset.

447
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,759
And just to back up my point, the Warriors, we're all mostly

448
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,279
average on offense. When Steph and
Pool played without Curry this season, one

449
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,200
twelve point two points per one hundred
and forty seven percentile. You'll take those

450
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,640
minutes. But there are some lineup
combinations and I think you know, there's

451
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,839
the starting lineup without Steph was just
awful. Minus That lineup was minus thirty

452
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,839
four point eight per one hundred and
so you had someone you put in Otto

453
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,759
Porter like that helped it out a
little bit. But the non Steff questions

454
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,160
for me are there, But I'm
also with you that they do seem to

455
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,119
have the more just like established supporting
cast there, And I'm just question I'm

456
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:02,119
also questioning how much do we see
the Nuggets rely on Bones Highland in this

457
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,799
series? Is there the stigma of
it? Felt like Michael Malone put him

458
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:12,039
into the lineup by necessity, like
the personnel demanded it. Is he going

459
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,640
to keep him there playing the type
of minutes that he has been playing,

460
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,640
And I would argue you probably should
just do that because as you mentioned,

461
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,839
and start to run out of options
pretty quickly. I don't even know what

462
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:29,359
to buy you time in this matchup, Like what is the Nuggets' best lineup

463
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,880
without Yokis? And I don't I
don't want to say that like this focus

464
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,440
too much on the no Yokis minutes, Like series can be one or lost

465
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:42,319
during those six to eight minute total
stints per games with We've seen it with

466
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,920
Joel Eenbid a couple times. Yeah, I mean, I think Highland,

467
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:51,680
especially over the final month, like
starting March. The second was their first

468
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,640
game in March. But so this
is the final twenty games of the season.

469
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,680
You know, he shot forty seven
point eight overall forty one point two

470
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,839
from re average fourteen points per game. I think he's their most reliable bench

471
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,200
scorer at this point, which is
crazy to say about a rookie who is

472
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,359
selected late in the first round,
but like you go down the list,

473
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,200
it's like, well, do you
trust him more than Austin Rivers at this

474
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:19,200
point? Probably so you know,
like PJ Dojer is not there for a

475
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:23,359
ton of offense. I don't even
want to mention Facundo Campazzo and fear of

476
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:28,039
Nuggets fans. You know, Brent
Forbes is there as well. I think

477
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:31,880
he'll play an important role, but
I think, especially if you are just

478
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:37,640
trying to keep pace with a Nuclear
Warriors offense, you're gonna need big contributions

479
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,720
from your bench and from guys like
Bones and Brent, And then hey,

480
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,079
like, maybe do we see a
DeMarcus Cousins revenge series? Like I think

481
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,079
I feel like he's like a like, is he going to be a nonfense

482
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,799
I was going to ask you who
you like who becomes more important to the

483
00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:01,319
series, DeMarcus Cousins, Austin Rivers
or Bryn Forbes. I hope for the

484
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,960
Nuggets sake, I hope it's not
Austin Rivers. I think it's going to

485
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,840
be Austin Rivers. Oh boy,
that's gonna be rough. It depends on

486
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:13,400
you know, if you're get you
have Will Barton, maybe Aaron Goren's give

487
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,000
me more an offensive Bones Island is
killing it. Maybe you're less relying on

488
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:20,199
him. But I think it's going
to be awesome Rivers. It's very possible.

489
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,440
I will say, I think given
the Warriors lack of size and you

490
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:29,679
know, with drama, it has
not mattered and it will never matter.

491
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,760
But like they don't have a ton
of rotation guys above sixty seven sixty eight

492
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,320
honestly, So like I think one
of the keys to beating them is just

493
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,960
destroying them on the glass, making
sure you're limiting them to one shot opportunity,

494
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,119
because if you know, if you're
giving Clay Steph Jordan Poole second or

495
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,000
third chances on a possession, it's
not not going to add up in your

496
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,639
favor over the course of the series. So that is one area where I

497
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:01,079
could see Boogie helping out. But
you know, if the Warriors, like

498
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:07,119
if if they can match Boogie with
Looney outside of starting minutes, like maybe

499
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,039
as it gives him a place to
hide. But if he's going against you

500
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:16,239
know, be Eliza, that he's
just you don't want him scrambling out to

501
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,960
the perimeter like that. And I'm
interested. I don't think they're gonna go

502
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:25,480
this deep in their bench. But
do the Warriors break out Kuminga at all?

503
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:29,960
Because he's a guy that the Nugget
is just seemed to have no answer

504
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:35,239
for, especially if Aaron Gordon to
preoccupy with Steph And that's what I was

505
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,599
also gonna because once you get beyond
Looney, like what are you doing with

506
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,480
those minutes alongside Draymond Green? Or
how are you populating the front court?

507
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:50,519
There's Draymond and Looney separate of course, but like Otto Porter and then like,

508
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,119
couldn't we see Kamina in this series? Maybe think so? I hope

509
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:57,599
so, because I mean he's especially
over the second half of the season,

510
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:04,079
he popped man like, he showed
that he is deserving of a rotation spot.

511
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,559
He's not, you know, I'm
not going to play it like thirty

512
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:10,280
plus minutes per game, but yeah, why not, especially if the if

513
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,159
the Nuggets try to go big with
Boogie, like you don't have a ton

514
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,280
of big options and you know his
athleticism alone, it is really going to

515
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,119
give the Nuggets a lot of trouble. I think, who has Is this

516
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:29,880
more of a Jonathan Comingo or Gary
Payton the second series? Oooh ooh,

517
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,400
I'll answer mine first, and you
may. I think it might be Cominga.

518
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:38,559
And I know that Gary Payton's spot
and the rotation has been let's say,

519
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,400
unstable, even though I think he's
been huge for the Warriors, and

520
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:44,960
you know when you do your six
Man of the Year ballot, he shouldn't

521
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,039
win. But like he was in
my honorable mentions for it, the Nuggets

522
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,599
don't have like that dangerous point of
a tax. If Jamal Murray or even

523
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,679
Michael Porter Jr. Was playing,
I might go with Gary Payton the second

524
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,960
But because even if you just need
bodies to throw at you kitch or fouls,

525
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,440
I could see it being I would
probably pick like Otto Porter Junior getting

526
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,639
that before Cominga maybe, But it
feels like this would be more of a

527
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,440
Cominga series than a just because of
the way the Nuggets are built, more

528
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,239
of a Cominga series than a Gary
Payton a second series. And looking even

529
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,599
if it's just a matter of like
the secondary front court minutes where it's,

530
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:24,239
oh, you're trying to match up
with Jeff Green or I don't even I

531
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,239
feel like these nag He's not going
to play much this series, mostly because

532
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,719
he's coming off that that injury.
But like, if you have to match

533
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,840
up with like one of the Green
brothers, where is Aaron Gordon all of

534
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:37,519
a sudden like the four or something. So I think I don't feel too

535
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,159
confident in it, but I think
this is more of a cominga series.

536
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,320
Yeah. I mean, especially on
the off chance that Michael Porter Junior returns,

537
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,559
he'd be instantly one of the best
options there. And you're right,

538
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:53,320
I mean Monte Morris, isn't that
guy like Bones is more of a three

539
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,880
point threat than he is? You
know, he's not gonna like beach off

540
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,599
the dribble a ton or if he
is, you have Draymond their larking.

541
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:07,000
So yeah, probably this was someone
that I think Clay and even Jordan Pool

542
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:09,840
like, if you don't want to
trade off the offense, yeah, they

543
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,599
can still handle that. Yeah.
Yeah, so I would agree it's probably

544
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:19,239
more of a commenus series. But
I have no sense of how deep Steve

545
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Kerr is going to go to his
bench, like, I mean, I

546
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,039
guess that's part of the risk or
the trouble with Clay, Like, you

547
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:30,159
know, this is not prime Klay
Thompson, and especially coming off of both

548
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:32,840
of those injuries, Like, I
don't know that you can ramp him up

549
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,719
to forty plus minutes of game and
Steph coming off of his injury, like,

550
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,719
is he ready to play forty minutes
per game right off the bat?

551
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,679
So that might be one area one
advantage for the Nuggets that like their guys,

552
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:49,400
like they can lead more heavily on
the starters if they need to.

553
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:53,119
Then I think the Warriors probably can. Who with that in mind, who

554
00:38:53,239 --> 00:39:00,440
is your X factor for Let's start
with the Warriors here? Probably Klay.

555
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:05,519
Is that unfair? Is he like
to high profile of a X factor?

556
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:12,079
I think because there's like so much
variability now caked into his performances, at

557
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,559
least in theory. Because if you're
do you expect the Klay Thompson that you've

558
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:21,800
seen over the past few weeks.
I it's fair if you do, but

559
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480
I also get if you maybe wouldn't. And then like sort of the other

560
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:32,000
part of all this though, is
his role defensively has changed like his matchup

561
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:37,679
difficulty per b Ball Index is lower, his positional versatility, he's classified as

562
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,559
a wing stopper, where he's probably
in years pass. I should look this

563
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:44,639
up before I'm spouting. It was
more of like a point of attack guy,

564
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:47,239
Like what are I guess it's not
as important in this series, just

565
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,159
because we already mentioned that, you
know, Bones Highland, Monte Morris or

566
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,559
those guys gonna instill fear and you
know, it's like from the from the

567
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,599
point of attack. I honestly don't
know, but yeah, I think I

568
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:04,719
think it's totally fair to say Clay
Yeah, I mean, it's part of

569
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,800
it. By the way, he's
actually had more positional defensive versatility this year

570
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:15,440
than in the previous two seasons he
played for and he's always beside as a

571
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,719
wing stopper, which is actually that
did it surprised me a little bit,

572
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,039
just because we've seen him so much
guard the other teams like best ball handler.

573
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,239
Yeah, that does surprise me.
And a lot of it is like

574
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,159
which play are you gonna get?
Are you gonna get the last couple weeks

575
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:34,639
are you're gonna get? Well,
you know, I think hopefully what we

576
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,840
saw early on where he's a lot
more inconsistent. He's shaken off for the

577
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,280
rest he played thirty two games,
Like, I don't think he's going to

578
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,920
be the Clay of old, but
he's still a high volume, very efficient

579
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:51,199
three point shooter and that's not going
to change. It's just how many minutes

580
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:57,159
can he play and how does he
handle his matchup defensively? Like I think

581
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,880
he will be fine, and I
think that will work out in the Warrior's

582
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,519
favor, But you just you don't
know with someone who you know, we've

583
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,119
seen plays at games of basketball in
three years, who are you throwing on

584
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,679
Clay? Who are you throwing on
Jordan Pool? And if the Warriors have

585
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,199
those two playing with Steph for stretches, Like what is Denver's answer? Right?

586
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,599
I mean, because you can like
where is Monte Morris in that scenario?

587
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Because if you have Aaron Gordon on
Steph, maybe you do Will Barton

588
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,360
on Clay And I don't love that, or you have to do you have

589
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,639
to do Monte on Jordan Pool?
I think that would be what you have.

590
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,559
I'm trying to think of, Like
is this is this Austin Rivers breaking

591
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,599
Kate? I don't think he's going
to give you that much more resistance that

592
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,559
you take Will Barton off the court
or Monte Morris for that matter. I

593
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,880
mean you run out of options there
really quick. That could be Another question

594
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,719
is if Steph is available, Like
how much do we see the three guard

595
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:59,079
lineup versus this version of the Nuggets. I would imagine a lot, because

596
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,679
I think it is going to worst
the Nuggets into kind of a breaking point

597
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,079
unless no Firing Murray or Michael Porter
Junior coming back. And also they've been

598
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:13,079
a plus thirty three point six per
one hundred on the floor together. Yeah,

599
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,000
I don't know who to pick for
my X factor. I want I

600
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:19,519
get Clay. I also thought about
Jordan Pool just because there are just gonna

601
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:22,480
be minutes where Steph Curry is not
on the floor even if he's playing,

602
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,519
and can you be even close to
net neutral during those A lot of that's

603
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:30,800
going to fall on Pool. I
thought about like Porter or Kaminga because of

604
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,920
the secondary big minutes they're gonna have
to log I refuse to pick Andrew Wiggins,

605
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,679
even though if he's giving you anything
on offense or sort of a weak

606
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,480
side rebounder, that's a huge X
factor I think I'm just gonna set along

607
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:45,719
Kaman Looney because on an individual possession
basis, he's going to spend the most

608
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,880
time on Nakolio Kitch and that is
the Warrior's biggest question. They might have

609
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,159
fewer questions to answer than Denver in
this series, but it is their biggest

610
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,920
one. And I'm not saying he's
the quintessential answer, but if Draymond Green

611
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,840
is able to continue captaining the entire
defense and he's more of someone who helps

612
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,079
out with Yokich and then does everything
else, it probably gives you a better

613
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:12,039
shot. So how much are we
going to see Kevon Looney? He is

614
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,159
going to be again when he's on
the floor, like, got your primary

615
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:16,599
option against Yoki and then just what
does what does that look like? Yeah?

616
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:22,320
I mean if if the three guards
plus Wiggins plus Dre lineup can hold

617
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,400
their own against Yokich, that's probably
curtains for the Nuggets. So they they

618
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:31,639
need to hope that Yokich destroys those
lineups, forces them into playing Louey more

619
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:37,559
and then you know he destroys those
lineups as well. Denver is X factor.

620
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:42,239
Gotta be Aaron Gordon, right,
I think I mean, just given

621
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,880
his importance defensively in this series,
and then also what do they get out

622
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:52,000
of him offensively? But Yokich is
incredible and he's gonna get his but he

623
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:59,119
needs a secondary scorer and less Murray
Reporter come back, Martin Morris Highlands,

624
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,360
will all of them something. Jeff
Green will give them a little bit,

625
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:06,159
but they need like a clear cut
number two guy. So Gordon is just

626
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,880
going to have a huge role on
both ends of the floor here and if

627
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,679
he comes up short on either end, probably not looking great for the Nuggets.

628
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,559
I went with Will Barton, who
I feel like we haven't talked about

629
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:20,119
much on this because I basically for
all the reasons you mentioned about the offense,

630
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,280
is maybe he's one that's tasked with
running some more Nicole Yoki Yokich list

631
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,880
units. Or is it just Aaron
Gordon is cooled off a bunch or he

632
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,960
excuse me, Will Barton is cooled
off a bunch since the trade deadline.

633
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,639
Like, if he can play better, that's huge for your offense. We

634
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,960
also have to believe that I think
Golden State understands that you can't lose track

635
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,239
of Monte Morris and the half court
anymore because that dude can stroke it from

636
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,239
long range and mid range and there
might be more of a focus on containing

637
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:52,920
him at points. But also just
if you need like who not, Let's

638
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,320
be honest, who is their best
point of attack playmaker right now? Is

639
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,880
it Monte Morris? Is it Bones
Island or is it Will Bartin? And

640
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,639
even lets it we can obfuscate the
point of attack definition because I know,

641
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,000
like none of those guys meet the
bill there would I would argue, if

642
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:15,280
you want to go with best,
maybe Bones Highland just because there's more unpredictability

643
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,360
at least esthetically when I'm watching him
functionally watching him, But I think it's

644
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:29,400
actually Will Barton. Yeah, I
think, especially like because Bones again,

645
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,519
it's he's more of a three point
threat that I think than Barton. Although

646
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,199
like the shot distribution when you reflected
this year, but you map it on

647
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,800
a permanute basis, it would Barton
is definitely more of a guy who is

648
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,639
going to attack you off the dribble. So yeah, I mean, I

649
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:51,280
don't I don't know how much success
he's going to have doing that in this

650
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,800
series, but if he is,
that it's a great shout as an X

651
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,559
factor because that that could be just
you know, they need some thing other

652
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:07,719
than okay yo Kid to do everything. Yeah, I would agree predictions.

653
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:15,440
This one's tough without knowing. It's
similar to like the Luca Dallas thing without

654
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:22,960
knowing exactly what to expect that of
Steph early on, like fully healthy Steph.

655
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:28,679
Game one probably Warriors in five or
six, and given the wild card

656
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,280
of a potential Murray and Porter return, although I don't think it's especially likely,

657
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,639
I'm gonna go to the cowards way
and say Warriors and seven. I'm

658
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:43,119
gonna say Warriors in six. I
think they're that problematic of a matchup for

659
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,280
Denver, and I don't look forward
to the discourse surrounding Nicole Yo Kid if

660
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,880
he gets bounced in the first round. Again, the MVP is a regular

661
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,719
season award, and let's not pretend
that the Nuggets are anything close to the

662
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,639
full strength here. I think he
is a fraud and real Hoopers know that

663
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,920
KD especially shout out to Kevin Durant. How would Joe be not the MVP

664
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:06,840
when he won the scoring title?
That's just the only How is he not

665
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,320
the MVP? You tell me?
Speaking of Joel Embiid, we move we

666
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,960
close with the six Craptors, the
final playoff series that has been set,

667
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,360
and I think the one I'm most
excited to watch, both because of the

668
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:24,199
matchup chess on paper, but also
because of like how nuclear things could get

669
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,760
if the Sixers play really poorly and
you're dealing with James Harn's upcoming free agency

670
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,400
and Doc Rivers future. We know
that you're secretly rooting for the Raptors because

671
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,199
you want a new head coach in
Philly, Lakers fans should definitely be rooting

672
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:45,360
for the Sixers. What just take
me? You are like the best person

673
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,159
to have on for this specific series, Like what are you just thinking leading

674
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:53,920
into it? Aside from that Matisse
Tiples would just get the booster. Sure,

675
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,719
no, he got you got one
shot. He just didn't get the

676
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,880
second one. I just have a
pit of dread in my stomach about this

677
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:08,559
series. Like maybe it's I mean
the regular season the Raptors won three one

678
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,440
the last two games they've played within
the past month, James Harden, Like

679
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:15,119
after the James Harden trade, you
just have to throw out you know,

680
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:21,400
full regular season results for the Sixers
don't matter because everything before James Harden's debut.

681
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,400
Who cares. They're a totally different
team now. They played twice in

682
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,440
the last month, lost both times. Fred van Vleet and Ogian and Obi

683
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:35,599
missed both of those games. So
assuming those guys are back, and yeah,

684
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:40,119
I don't think they're gonna be fully
healthy, but playing certainly concerning based

685
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:45,679
on what we've seen recently the Raptors, I mean, I've been talking about,

686
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,880
you know, matchups kind of dictating, you know, whether who wins

687
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:55,000
a playoff series, and the Raptors
just feel like a really f and bad

688
00:48:55,079 --> 00:49:01,280
match the Sixers for a number of
reasons. They don't have a clear answer

689
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,239
for Joel Embiad. So that is
where if you're path mapping out a path

690
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,880
with Sixers victory, it is Joel
Embiid using the spike that he feels about

691
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,639
Nicol Yokich winning MVP for the second
straight season to just do like drop forty

692
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,360
twenty every game, because that's honestly
what they're gonna need out of him.

693
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:28,199
But this version of James Harden,
can he beat switches, I don't know

694
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:34,440
anymore, which is very concerning.
And if he can't, the Rafters have

695
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:37,199
no shortage of six eight, six
nine, guys that they can throw at

696
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,480
him. They learned their lesson.
I mean like teams early on were blitzing

697
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,960
Harden and daring someone else to beat
them, and the Sixers are very capable

698
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:52,920
of doing that. But if you
can just switch between you know, Og

699
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:58,639
Scotty and Pascal on Harden and he
can't beat those guys off the dribble,

700
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,880
it's gonna be a long serio for
the Sixers. Yeah, there's I will

701
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,719
still maintain that the attention James Harden
draws feels like it's still been important,

702
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,320
important to the supplementary offensive players.
Looking at Maxine, even Tobias Harris,

703
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:15,159
who we both last time you're on
this podcast, we absolutely destroyed his performance

704
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:20,440
on the court, and he's he's
somewhat suddenly turned things around. But yeah,

705
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,519
I don't like the Raptors are built
to make a lot of difficult even

706
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:27,440
on a team that has just James
Harden being James Harden. And we saw

707
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,960
it in their most recent matchup where
it's like, no, they're not gonna

708
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,800
keep the ball out of Joel Beat's
hands, but they're gonna make you run

709
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,599
through a zillion different labyrinths to get
the ball to him. And that's gonna

710
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,960
burn time off the shot clock.
They have the ability to throw multiple bodies

711
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,880
at him if they want, and
you can't like, who are you hunting

712
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,719
on this team? Like, oh, precious that chews on James Harden.

713
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,639
They don't fucking care. They probably
want that right right, Yeah, there

714
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:57,119
there is no weak link defensively,
or at least not one that they can

715
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,519
target, Whereas I mean, the
Raptors in the fourth quarter of that game

716
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:07,480
recently really wet after Tyres Maxie,
Like they put and beat on Siakam and

717
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:12,239
then they just spammed Siam Gary Trent
Junior pick and rolls and went right after

718
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,159
Maxie. So that is another concern. I mean, Maxie is going to

719
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,400
be you know, it is great
offensively and has settled into the number three

720
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:28,000
option, probably better than anyone could
have anticipated. But you know, are

721
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,239
they going to be able to play
him off the floor? Like, are

722
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,559
they gonna just I don't think they
will, like to the extent that the

723
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,280
Sixers literally take him off the floor
because they don't have a better option,

724
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:45,599
But can they figure out way to
protect him from getting roasted as an individual

725
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:51,079
defender? How big is Tyble's absence
in the games that take place in Toronto.

726
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:57,760
Knowing that Philly's I guess like their
weakest like defensive link is their ability

727
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,960
to probably defend in transition, I
would argue, And now not having him

728
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,760
is this just like Ganty Greenians.
So I'm at the clock a half decade

729
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,400
out of like what is the what
is the answer? Yeah, I mean,

730
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,519
they just don't have another wing defender. It's like Shake Milton is going

731
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:19,559
to play the most minutes at that
position. Otherwise it is for con corkbos

732
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,360
or like Charlie Brown Jr. Who
I think is on a two way and

733
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,199
isn't even eligible for the playoffs that
I think about it, So yeah,

734
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,719
I mean I think it's it's big. But who were we talking about earlier,

735
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,840
Oh Boston with like you know,
it does Robert Williams injury actually force

736
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,519
them into the best lineup for this
specific matchup. And I do wonder if

737
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:47,360
Tible's decision not to get vaccinated or
not to get fully vaccinated also made Doc

738
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,519
Rivers stumble ass backwards into the best
possible lineup for this series, because I

739
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:57,280
think Danny Green, you know,
when Thibles on the court, the Raptors

740
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,239
just completely more They're like, all
right, if you want to shoot threes,

741
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,480
great, we're going to sag so
far off of you to clog up

742
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:08,840
driving lanes and to throw help at
Joel Embiid. We don't care. You

743
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,079
can take one hundred threes. We
will like, we'll live with the result,

744
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:20,079
especially over a seven game series.
Danny Green not nearly as good defensively

745
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,519
as Thiable or you know, at
what he was in his prime, but

746
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:29,440
a much much better shooter. So
the offensive spacing I think is going to

747
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,239
be a lot better. With that
said, yeah, it's a concern,

748
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,400
especially if Danny gets into foul trouble, because again, they just don't really

749
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:43,280
have any other options. I will
say, the thing that works in their

750
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:49,480
favor in that regard is the Raptors
don't have that like elite wing scorer like

751
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:52,480
Kevin Durant, the Tatum, the
you know, Paul George Kawhi Leonard,

752
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:58,639
so like that. Not the Thible
or Green could have handled someone like that

753
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:04,320
anyway, but the Raptors might not
have the personnel to exploit his absence in

754
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:08,000
that way. Who's the person you're
throwing Diable on when he's playing? Is

755
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:10,719
it like? Is it Fred VanVleet. It's not Fred VanVleet, is it.

756
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:19,519
Yeah, I mean, because Fred's
been just so inconsistent with that knee

757
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:24,559
injury since the All Star break,
so maybe o Gianna Nobi, I don't

758
00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:28,800
know, also been banged up a
lot he was playing as well. Yeah,

759
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,960
I mean it's the Raptors are gonna
be fascinated because I just don't know

760
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:39,599
who the throw like they started Siakam
precious A, Scottie Barnes and Kem Birch

761
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:43,360
and then Gary Trent Junior in that
game the other day, so I think

762
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,719
that means that line up struggled to
score. It did, but I think

763
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:52,000
that means Scotty Barnes played at the
two like started at the two, So

764
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,760
I'm interested to see who they trot
out in their starting five. Kem Birch

765
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,360
had no chance against that beat.
I don't think he played is a ton

766
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,519
in this series, and they're going
to have a short bench like I think

767
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:09,519
Sad and Chris Bouche. And that's
probably all she wrote there, but I

768
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:15,559
mean, I think the Raptors like
that. It's similar where the Sixers have

769
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:22,159
the better top end talent, but
I think the Raptors match up better against

770
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:25,880
the Sixers and the Sixers to the
Raptors. Do you have any like thoughts

771
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,519
on how the Sixers can try and
navigate I don't want to say the nonstar

772
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:32,159
minutes, but the way they're going
to stagger their stars. You know about

773
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:36,639
this for Forbes, and I knew
that the hardened Maxi minutes without Embided were

774
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:42,199
terrible. I did not realize that
the Embided Maxi minutes without or assuming the

775
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,320
hardened without Maxie or Embide minutes since
they were originally tethering those two together,

776
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,159
were bad. I know, I
didn't look enough to see that the Embide

777
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,280
Maxi minutes without Hearten weren't that great
either, And so like, what is

778
00:55:52,320 --> 00:56:01,559
the course of action here for Doc
rivers pray whatever his gut instinct says,

779
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:07,480
do the other that's probably I don't
know. I mean, it's it's it's

780
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:10,639
gonna be tough. I think,
you know, you have to space the

781
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:16,400
floor. So I think probably shake
Yang and Danny Green with and beaten Maxie

782
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,639
would make the most sense. And
then you know, the backup big question

783
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,199
for Philly is going to be looming
large in this series as well. Doc

784
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,239
very condescendingly said that, you know, when when the opponent has a small

785
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,199
backcourt, they're gonna go Paul Reid, and then when they have a big

786
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,239
backcourt, they're gonna go Andre Drummond. Which makes sense, and that's what

787
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:44,559
people have been clamoring for because as
why we've been watching on DeAndre Jordan,

788
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,000
you know, try his lifeless corpse
up and down the court for a month,

789
00:56:47,519 --> 00:56:52,880
but Doc had not been doing that
up until the last couple of games.

790
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:59,039
So, like I think Reid is
going to play in this series,

791
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,800
I don't think DeAndre should or is
going to very much. I mean,

792
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,800
in the game the previous game,
not the one recently, he played eleven

793
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:15,440
minutes and was a minus ten and
they lost by five. So that speaks

794
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:19,440
and somehow I don't think it accurately
captured how bad DeAndre Jordan was in this

795
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:22,960
matchup. So I think we see
not a lot of Paul Reid because you're

796
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,400
gonna play at beat forty minutes or
so, but we'll see Paul Reid for

797
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:35,239
the backup big minutes. You know, Doc has talked about like the concern

798
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,920
about him getting into foul trouble,
and it's like, bro, he's playing

799
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,079
ten minutes a game. It's he
really could rack up six fouls in ten

800
00:57:40,159 --> 00:57:45,039
minutes or if he does, like
okay, dust off DeAndre Jordan or dust

801
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:47,920
off Paul Milstap for like two minutes
if you need to. But give Paul

802
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,440
Read the first crack at the backup
big and I think I think he will.

803
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:57,480
What was the what was the quote
he had the other night on Paul

804
00:57:57,519 --> 00:58:00,679
Readers, like this is not the
Paul We're not going to make Paul Reid

805
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:08,800
show Paul Read victory tour? Is
there? Moving this to the Raptors,

806
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:16,000
is they're like an element of they
could hamper themselves in this series because even

807
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:20,360
over this elite stretch that they've had, which is basically lasted half the season

808
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,840
at this point, their half court
offense has not been great. They're relying

809
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,960
on cleaning up a lot of missus
or getting out in transition. Again,

810
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:30,679
I don't know that it will be
a problem to get out and transition against

811
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:35,800
Philly. They are around league average
and three point efficiency during this stretch,

812
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,400
but they're also twenty six and three
point tenth three. Like they're just not

813
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,079
locked and over with a lot of
shooters, in part because, as you

814
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:44,480
mentioned, they're not playing lineups with
a ton of shooters if their full cast

815
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:45,760
is available. And I'm looking at
their injury report right now. I'm not

816
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,079
used to seeing no current injuries for
any team, let alone the Raptors.

817
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,159
But no current injuries to report.
Believe it or not, but I know

818
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,320
Siakam is different, Like this isn't
the same player who couldn't dribble. It

819
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,360
felt like in a straight line against
Boston in twenty twenty. There's more directionality

820
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,719
to his drives, better decision making. He is just a much better player

821
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,199
than he was then. And you
still do have Fred Van Fleet, but

822
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:13,199
feel like he's done better in the
like point guard ish type of role where

823
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:16,280
he needs to have more influence over
the offense. You've run reps through Scottie

824
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,719
Barnes and crunch Time and there's been
some flashes there. Garus Trent Junior can

825
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,360
be electric, but there's still just
something about this half court offense that feels,

826
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:29,920
if not solvable, like it can
that it can go through slumps of

827
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,320
its own accord. And I do
think a lot of that has to do

828
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,480
with like Nick Nurse, and this
is probably because when you look at the

829
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:38,079
bench, there just aren't any secondary
creators some of these units he's running out,

830
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:42,480
they're not built to score like these
just egregiously saying like we're gonna play

831
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:45,599
a bunch of life sized guys and
it's gonna hurt our offense, but that's

832
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:50,039
just what we're going to do.
Does that give you any hope if you're

833
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:53,480
the Sixers or we pass the point
of where we should actually be concerned about

834
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:58,880
the aesthetics of Toronto's offense a lot
of the time, Yeah, it doesn't

835
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,559
give me a ton of hope.
I think they're just gonna lean even more

836
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:05,400
heavily on that starting group. And
it's not like the Sixers bench has been

837
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,880
any better. Like the Sixers are
also a very top heavy group. They're

838
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:13,320
gonna play they're top four, and
FAD's been at least like you can point

839
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,320
to that guy coming off the bench
and playing really well. Yeah, and

840
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:19,199
you think Buche too, Yeah,
and Brouchet I was going to say,

841
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,079
and the Sixers, it's like,
well, like George and Yang, I

842
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:29,199
think is you are. He will
be a consistent member off the bench,

843
01:00:29,239 --> 01:00:31,400
and he will knock down some big
shots at times. It was work on

844
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:37,440
in like October November. Yeah,
like Shank is finding his footing lately.

845
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,599
Matisse will play in the games in
Philly, presumably. I think they're going

846
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:44,280
to just keep Danny in the starting
lineup the whole time. I don't think

847
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:49,599
they want to go back and forth. But yeah, then that's like pray

848
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,400
pray. John Hollinger was right about
Paul Reid last thing before. Actually,

849
01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:00,719
actors, the Sixers will win this
series if James Hard is James Harden.

850
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,400
Would you even guarantee that they win
if James Harden is James Harden And let's

851
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,760
not let's make it not playoff James
Harden, but like regular season James Harden.

852
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,119
No, because Doc Rivers, Doc
Rivers versus Nick Nurse is the biggest

853
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,679
mismatch. We've discussed a lot of
mismatches on this episode. That is the

854
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,760
single biggest mismatch in the first round
of the playoffs. Yeah, I look,

855
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,840
I've just very much the Raptors just
do things on defense with lineups that

856
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,599
I hate that I don't understand that
tend to work out. So yeah,

857
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:31,519
i'd agree with Yeah, who is
your ex factor for the Sixers in this

858
01:01:31,639 --> 01:01:38,159
series? Danny Green? I think
we just especially given the absence of Matisse,

859
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:43,199
if he is able to play,
Like, I just don't know if

860
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:45,719
he's he will be able to play
forty minutes a game over the course of

861
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,880
the series, and I think they're
going to need him to, you know.

862
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,320
Tobias is another one. You mentioned
him earlier, like he really struggled

863
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:59,360
in those first couple of games with
Harden, but has gotten so much better

864
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:04,199
lately, Like he finally after two
years of Doc Rivers just begging him to

865
01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:07,519
catch and shoot, he finally is
just catching and shooting now. So no,

866
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:12,000
he's gonna have to what knows they
have the Raptors have no shortage of

867
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:16,840
six eight guys, so he's gonna
have to take on someone. I don't

868
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,960
know if they'll start. I guess
if they start, they're normal five the

869
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:27,119
Raptors do, and Bead will start
on Siakam and then Tobias is probably on

870
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:34,119
Scotty Barnes, but then that probably
means Danny Green on og and then yeah,

871
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:36,800
like where do you hide hard?
Maybe you hide Harden on Ouchi and

872
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,400
put Danny Green on Gary Trent and
then Maxie on Fred van Fleet. Like

873
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:45,719
this is another one where it feels
like the Raptors have more like more answers

874
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,880
against the Sixers and the Sixers to
the Raptors. And that's not even including

875
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,559
the coaching. My extractor for them
was to Bias Harris, you laid out

876
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:58,000
basically why on offense, Like,
if he's gonna play like he's been playing

877
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,679
that, I'll be huge for them, And I guess it's not necessarily.

878
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:02,239
I mean, they need it.
If James Harden is gonna be hitting shots

879
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,360
like this, he's gonna get rid
of the ball. Debias Harris is gonna

880
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,039
be opening some make shots. But
I'm also, like you mentioned him Defendie

881
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:10,920
Scotty Barnes based off some of the
lineups that Nick Nurse is going to throw

882
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,159
out there, they're gonna be reps
where he has to guard Pascal Siakam probably,

883
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:20,679
And I've also just wondered, and
I don't know how out there this

884
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,119
is, but like, given some
of the lineups that the Raptors throw out

885
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:27,960
there, like, is there a
like Tobias Harris and center scenario here that

886
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:31,119
the Sixers should be exploring if they
just refuse to break out Paul Reid.

887
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:36,360
I think they're going to break out
Paul Reid. They did in the last

888
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,000
game, and they have over the
last couple of games of the season.

889
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:43,159
But like, I would much rather
see it Tobias and the Yang front court

890
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:46,039
than I would Deandrew Jordan. DeAndre
Jordan has absolutely no place in this series.

891
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:50,000
And if he plays a single minute, Doctor Rivers is point shaving,

892
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:55,679
You're a chapter for the Raptors.
I mean, where do you even like

893
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:00,679
any of the guy? I mean, Siakam is too important, Advanvleet,

894
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:05,239
He's like too important to be an
X factor, but like if he's hampered

895
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:10,119
at all, is at least something
that will be keeping an eye on.

896
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:15,559
I think probably I'm split between Og
and Scotty Barnes just because they can do

897
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:23,000
everything. And you know what,
we haven't seen a ton of Og lately.

898
01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:26,239
I mean, I know he came
back for a couple of games at

899
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,079
the end of the season, but
you know, otherwise, like miss a

900
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:32,880
ton of time right after the All
Star break, so he looked fine,

901
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:38,079
but I'm just going to keep an
eye on, like does that finger injury

902
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:42,719
hamper him at all? And then
Scotty can is just like so versatile,

903
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,119
so depending on who's guarding him,
whether it's Tobias or Danny Green at first

904
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,039
you can can he make them pay
for that? Because if he can,

905
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:56,639
then the Sixers just don't have answers
up and down the lineup, And this

906
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,079
is going to be a shorter seven
series, and I think a lot of

907
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:01,480
us are expecting. I went with
Ogi as well, just because it feels

908
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:04,880
like not that he's unknown, but
like he's just dealt with so many stopping

909
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:12,599
starts this season. I did entertain
Scottie Barnes also because it's like, does

910
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,079
he see time on Joel Ebead in
this series? I guess functionally he should

911
01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:18,239
not, but he might see time
on everybody. And he's also the first

912
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:25,239
rookie since I think Damian Lillard to
average over thirty five minutes a game in

913
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,280
over seventy appearances. It's like,
this is someone who's played a lot,

914
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,719
like it is the rookie wall ever
gonna be a thing with him? Or

915
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,400
is he just gonna be I know
he struggled at some point in the season,

916
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,519
but also just like Kenny shoulder that
workload in the playoffs. But I

917
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:40,679
think it's just og Hana Nobi maybe
because maybe because I'm curious more than anything

918
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,840
else about what he's gonna look like
if he's playing heavy minutes over a consistent

919
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:50,559
period of time. Yeah, for
sure. Predictions. I'm going Raptors in

920
01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:57,360
six. I'm gonna go Raptors in
seven. I came dangerously close to predicting

921
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:02,199
the Raptors to come out of the
East for Bleacher Report, but I flaked

922
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,760
on that prediction. There's just we
went over it. There's so many matchup

923
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,920
problems here, and it's to the
I'm not going to assume that James Harden

924
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,920
doesn't make his shots in this series
or looks like he's moving really slow,

925
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,559
Ian if you told me that he's
great. I don't know that the Sixers

926
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:24,119
are deep enough to overcome just the
breadth of different looks the Raptors can throw

927
01:06:24,119 --> 01:06:27,920
with them, who are not particularly
deep themselves. But like their top seven

928
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,599
guys are going or just re kill
on defense for Philly. Yeah, I

929
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:36,920
mean the Sixers are just so not
flexible in what they can do, Like

930
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,599
their personnel is just not flexible,
especially with Matis being out for at least

931
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,360
or four three of these because the
other things. Yeah, and so I

932
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,920
mean, like i think I'm guessing
they split the first two in Philly Toronto

933
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:56,960
wins three and four. Back home
without Matis, Sixers win Game five and

934
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:00,480
then the Raptors close them out and
six because yeah, I mean the Raptors

935
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:03,679
can throw out so many different styles
of lineups and Nick Nurse is so creative

936
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,400
and you know who like willing to
throw a box in one, like who

937
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:12,159
knows what they're going to be able
to do? The Sixers. I will

938
01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:15,679
say, shout out to Austin Krell
of the Painted Liance for this idea.

939
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,039
The Raptors have struggled against his own
this year, and the Sixers have been

940
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:24,760
more willing to do it than they
have in years past. So like I

941
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:28,559
as much as it's easy to poke
fun at Doc Rivers and to you know,

942
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,039
pray for him to be the coach
of the Lakers next year, Like

943
01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:33,360
this is a big Doc Rivers series, Like if he's going to be going

944
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:38,519
against one of the smartest, most
innovative coaches in the NBA, he has

945
01:07:38,639 --> 01:07:43,280
the top end talent advantage, but
the matchups do not favor the Sixers here,

946
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,280
so can he junk this up?
And you know force the Raptors half

947
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,360
court offense to sputter? I think
is one of the biggest questions. Ryan,

948
01:07:51,639 --> 01:07:55,639
This was great. Thank you so
much for going in detail on every

949
01:07:55,719 --> 01:08:00,079
series that we know about heading into
Thursday. Can you tell our listeners where

950
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:02,519
they can find you in all the
great work that you do. Yeah,

951
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:06,519
you can find me on Twitter at
the two Poor X, the t O,

952
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:12,039
P O R e K. I
cover mostly the Sixers, but some

953
01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:15,800
also some salary cap stuff at Fork
Sports, So I'll be doing a bunch

954
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,640
of stuff heading into free agency,
and then you can find my podcast,

955
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:25,920
the NBA Podcast Wherever Podcasts Profound and
Dan. Thank you as always for having

956
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,920
me on. I will be I'm
happy to come back in two weeks to

957
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:34,520
celebrate doctor Ver's newest job at the
Lakers. Thank you again, Brian,

958
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,800
As you know I'll be festering you
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