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Weird thing, weird, weird,
weird. Welcome to Bledsoe said, So,

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we have an awesome guest, my
friend Jordan Crowder. It's crazy how

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we met. Actually, I'm gonna
go ahead and tell that story. So

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Jordan has a really awesome TikTok Alive
and Kicking, and it was it is,

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it really is. It's very riveting
content. And I love the style

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where you're just walking out nature and
you're just doing these long form expositions about

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really deep topics. It's very cool
stuff. And it was brought to my

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attention. I can't remember it.
Maybe it was my sister, maybe it

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was my brother. Was scrolling through
TikTok one day and your video popped up

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and it was a video about Robert
Monroe, Dolorus Cannon and my dad and

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I watched the video probably three times, showed it to my parents. I

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showed it to my dad, showed
it my other siblings, and great video,

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and I was like, man,
this is really cool. And I

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think one thing led to another,
and we sent you some messages maybe you

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tagged us and we got the talking
and next thing, you know, we

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just really hit it off and here
we are. So Jordan thank you for

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coming on the show. I do
want an honorable mention. Jordan has an

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awesome book, Entrepreneurial Spirits. Did
I say that right on? It's a

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tongue twister Entrepreneurial Spirits. And I
was saying this when we were off the

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air and Nick was like, save
it for the show. I had to

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say. The thing about the book
that really has rocked my socks is your

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part in the very beginning when you're
like, I wrote this whole book listening

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to binaural beats in a meditative state. WHOA, Yeah, that's super cool.

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So anyway, welcome to the show, Jordan, thank you so much

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for coming on. Hey guys,
this is a huge honor. Thanks for

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having this is awesome the honors ours. What a genius idea to write with

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binaurmal beats in your ear. Yeah, that's so genius. I need to

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try that with That'd probably be pretty
hard to try with music, but uh

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yeah, I don't know. That's
a that's a really smart idea. I

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love that. Yeah. It just
it gets me into the flow state where

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I can just sort of let go
and just let the information come through me

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and I don't have to really sit
there and analyze it and pick it apart.

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And that's the only way my analytical
mind can really ever write a book

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is just to let it, let
it happen, and get out of the

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way. It's a good book.
I highly recommend it. Admittedly I have

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not finished it, but like I
said, it's it's a really good book.

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I really recommend it. And you
know, I don't want to say

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anything unless you're comfortable with saying about
the book. But I mean, don't

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want to get into it whichever way
you want to go. Guys, Yeah,

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let's talk about it, okay.
So you know, I just have

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to ask about the beginning about your
dad. I mean, are you comfortable

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talking about any of that stuff.
Yeah. It's not that I want to

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know specifically about your dad. It's
more so about well the experience you had

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with it and how you grew from
that. I mean, I know it's

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in the book, but I want
to hear from you. Yeah. So,

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like writing the book was actually a
big part of my For the last

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four years or so, I've been
going through like a recovery process. You

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know, I got really, really
sick and almost died and I had to

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heal my body back, and that's
where the binormal beats and everything came in.

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Is I found to basically save my
life, I had to lower my

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blood pressure like very very fast,
and I was searching and searching and trying

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to find the most effective way to
do it, and I came across meditation.

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I was like, all right,
well, I need some super meditation,

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you know. I was like,
what do the what do the Buddhist

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monks do? What is the most
hardcore, like best most effective meditation in

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the world. Had Yeah, right, I love that, you know,

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because like my interpretation of meditation,
I tried transitental meditation some other techniques and

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I was just too high strung and
I was all over the place and I

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couldn't do it. And I'm racing
against the clock here and I had to

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I had to act fast. So
I stumbled across something called hemi sync,

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which was a technology that Robert Monroe
created, and it changed my world because

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I read this article and it was
talking about how they actually did MRI scans

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on Buddhist monks that were hardcore meditators
for like thirty forty years, and they

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were able to get into this meditative
state and they were actually like scanning their

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brains and seeing the brain the state
of the brain waves and everything. And

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then they compared that to a person
in Hemi Sink, and the person Hemi

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Sink had the same brainwave state.
So they were basically able to emulate the

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meditative state of a Buddhist monk who's
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life. Yeah, and you can
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So I was like sold. So
I started diving into there's the Monroe Institute

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and there are awesome, great people, but I wanted the old school stuff.

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So I started diving into Robert Monroe's
a person how he even got to

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this point, And I went to
all the dark parts of the Internet to

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find like the original material, Like
I got the workbooks and stuff from the

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Monroans to at the very beginning,
I got the stuff they used for the

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CIA actually ended up co opting this
stuff and the CIA started using it to

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the gate with their project Way program
has the basis for their secrets by program,

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there's psychic programs and all that kind
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technique, this method that he uncovered
was so powerful that even the Cia was

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like, we got to use this, and I guarantee you they still do

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to today, but or at least
this is the basis, that the fundament,

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the foundation for a lot of these
things. And so I was like,

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okay, well if it can do
all those things, if if I

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can basically traverse this dimension, I
can send to higher levels of consciousness,

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I can remote you, I can
do all this wild stuff. I was

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like, I got to be able
to lower my blood pressure, right,

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So I used it for myself first, to heal myself. Remember that was

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such a good reference. I'm see
in every office, but you lost me

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there. And there's a there's an
episode when they're like giving blood on one

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of those like trucks, you know
what I'm about, and it's either his

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klusurl or his blood pressure. He's
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at will me of that? Yeah, man, you picked that one out

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of the archives. Nice. Oh
So, so anyways, I started using

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it and then you know, we'll
talk about this more later, I'm sure,

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but it just it opened a whole
world. I was able to as

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someone who had never meditated in my
life, someone who didn't know so I

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had a near death experience when I
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like the way I describe in the
book is that kind of unlocked the doors

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to the greater reality. And then
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that I kicked the doors wide open, and then I was able to to

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really have some fun and really do
some wild stuff. I mean, I

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spent years like studying the Monroe work, you know, everything about him.

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I read his books multiple times,
became a huge steward of his stuff because

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he is one of the most fascinating
people. And what happened to him,

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and the way he was able to
leave his body at will, the way

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he was able to put together this
team of like consciousness researchers and out of

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body explorers, and the way they're
able to document everything they did in such

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a scientific, like military type way
was amazing and basically map out the greater

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you know, expanded reaches of our
consciousness and of the astral planes and everything.

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No one's ever done anything like this. So I was sitting there,

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I was reading all this, and
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the most important books in the world. Why is everyone not doing this?

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I was just blown away. So
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coincidentally, that's how I actually came
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because robinn Roe talks about the balls
of light a lot, you know,

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with your spirits, and that's how
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I'll tell you the story of my
dad real quick and then we'll get to

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the more, you know, the
crazier stuff. But you know, basically

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he was. He was just a
great guy who was just completely not planted

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in this reality like he like,
I literally believe, I firmly believe that

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that we have a personal bubble that
we all operate in and we can manipulate

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things in it, because I believe, just to give you a peaking of

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my views, that we're in a
kind of a simulated reality, right of

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sorts. Yeah, and that you
can is valuable and it's editable, and

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you can change things. And you're
your world and you have your own personal

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reality bubble that you can change things, but your personal reality bubble was floating

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around in a larger bubble of the
greater reality. And the greater reality there's

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rules and laws and stuff. Well, my dad was a master at manipulating

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his own personal reality bubble and being
able to manifest and do whatever he wanted.

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And he lived in this almost like
movie. The problem is he was

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also floating around in the real world
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he did it as a game he
liked to like he liked to he was

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a jewel thief, but he didn't
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lived a modest life. When they
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had all this stuff stored away on
all these lock boxes and all this crazy

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stuff, and like millions of dollars. And he would go to a place,

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he would he would get a job. He would impersonate like you know,

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like a jewel person, like a
well known jewel person, and he

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would get a job, he would
get, earn the trust of the shopkeepers

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and stuff. When they would finally
leave him alone, he would rob them

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blind. He would move out of
state, change his identity and do it

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again, and just kept doing it. But he never even spent the money.

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Like he he had liked like classic
cars, so he bought a lot

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of like old porches and stuff.
But he We had no idea I was

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doing this, you know. We
always wondered, like what he did Yeah,

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yeah, but I was young,
so I was just like, you

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know, he's the centric, you
know, but you know, he was

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harmless. He never hurt anybody.
And even when they arrested him, the

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the FBI was like they were like
seeing his praises in the newspaper. They're

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basically saying that, you know,
they'd never met anyone who could pass light

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detector tests like this, that he
it was crazy, like he he basically

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he admitted to everything. They couldn't
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stuff. They didn't have any like
he he was very good at what he

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did, right, And then in
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he had been doing it across several
states and they finally just nabbed him,

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and he admitted to everything. He
went to prison, and but they they

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were like gushing about him. And
then whenever they did this like you know,

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news article, you know, you
can you can find it online,

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news article about when it all happened. They were interviewing you know, neighbors

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and stuff, you know, because
it was kind of a big deal in

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this little town that we're in.
By this point, we'd made it to

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Florida and that's when he got popped. And but yeah, when they're interviewing

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people, everyone's like he's so nice. He would like have pick up basketball

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games with all neighborhood kids. He
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give people money if they died.
Like he was he was this very nice,

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charismatic like renaissance man. He was
a sculptor, he was an artist,

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he was a collector of all these
things. Like he was a great

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person. But he's still around.
We don't have a relationship. It's weird,

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but like he's he's an interesting person. And like I've I've analyzed him

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as like I guess like a psychologist
would you know, because I'm like,

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this is this is so interesting.
It's fascinating how people, you know,

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like I don't know how someone can
live like multiple different lives and one you

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know what I mean. Like on
the outside, he appeared a certain way.

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People would meet himself and they would
think he's like this just jolly happy,

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like perfectly nice, like you would
picture him being like a school teacher

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or something. And then he's you
know Robin Banks and Robin you know,

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doing jewelry, highs stuff like that. So for a couple of years.

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It took him a while to capture
him, and yeah, it's funny.

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There's some glowing remarks from the FBI
about there, like, yeah, he

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was pretty impressive criminal and okay,
same like everybody loves him. Yeah,

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how much of a legend do you
have to be to do all that stuff

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be loved by your community? And
then the newspaper in the FBI is like,

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hey, honestly, is pretty dope, crude. He was getting away

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with it like game orspec game,
you know, like like worshiped him.

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That's he's a green man. I
think the thing was he didn't look at

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himself as a criminal, and he
wasn't doing this nefariously. It was just

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a game, It's all it was. And they kind of knew that too,

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because they're playing a game too.
If you think about the FBI,

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their game is to catch the bad
guys, and the bad guy's game is

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to be a bad guy. And
you know, I actually think that we

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come into this world and we sort
of pick our avatar the same way when

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you play a video game, you
pick your character, and maybe he picked

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a character of this guy, you
know what I mean, And then maybe

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cops pick a character if they're gonna
be the cop in this lifetime and they're

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going to chase the bad guy and
this other guy's you know, like Delaura's

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Kenny, you mentioned her. She
talks about it, how it's like a

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play. And whenever you you pass
on you and you go to the afterlife

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and you go and reconnect with your
soul cluster and stuff, how they'll be

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like, you know, oh,
that was crazy in the last life.

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Whenever, like you know, you
or my dad and I was a kid

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and we were fighting, or you
were you know, you were the coffin,

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I was the robber. Yeah,
yeah, you busted me, dude.

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Yeah. So it's funny. It's
almost like we just pick these characters

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and we play the role, you
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and sometimes it's evil, and sometimes
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all these different roles. But it
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adventure game that seems that we're in
as wild. Yeah, it sounds like

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like an absolute legend of a person. I just have to say that.

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But my question is you said he
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will. It's like life was like
his stage and he could do whatever he

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wanted all the time. Do you
think I mean, was it intentional?

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Was he doing like was he intentionally
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the flow state, in like a
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what was I think it's part of
that flow state thing. I think when

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you prove to yourself that these things
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work, it kind of becomes I
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but you know what I mean,
you kind of you get excited about

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it. You're like, oh,
I did that and it worked, Let's

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do it again. And I think
he just kind of got swept up in

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it. He lost track of reality
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he got caught and he went to
prison, he got out and then you

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know, oh my god, he
was Yeah, so he just went to

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he went to prison for like three
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Huntsville in Texas, and you know, then he got out. And this

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around ten or so when he went
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yeah, then he got out and
he'd lived a normal life after that.

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meets and you know, he was, you know, doing dad things and

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everything. And then he finally he
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company and he it went south and
the funding dropped through and he was doing

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business with some bad guys and they
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hitting the lamb and I didn't see
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like twenty or something, so,
yeah, I haven't seen him since I

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was like twenty or so. And
he's still alive. Yeah, still alive,

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still lives in the same house.
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just never figured out how to exist
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you know what I mean, there's
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like there's so many rules in this
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we have to like obey and everything, and there's some people that just can't

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do it. Like their brain.
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peg in a square hole, you
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their mind is too big to into
the confines of this mortal shell. Yeah,

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there's a quote. I have my
book right here, Shameless Plug Spirits

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everywhere. Check that out. There's
a quote if you don't mind, it's

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just it's what sentence, but it's
from the captain, the police captain.

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So this is the quote. He
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he could have channeled his talents to
the good, would be a wealthy man,

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said Addison Police Captain Steve Higgins.
So even the cops were like,

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man, if this guy was like
not doing this for criminal purposes, he

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would be a millionaire. And my
dad knew that, he knew he He

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was very gifted. He's very smart. He was he was genius level intelligence.

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But he just for some reason,
he liked to just mess with stuff,

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you know what I mean. He
couldn't just go get a job and

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do the nine to five. He
couldn't just get a legit business. He

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just it was just all a game
to him, you know. And it

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makes you wonder if these people are
almost like higher level people to where they

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know from an early age this is
a game and they don't take it too

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seriously. Like Rosa Crucians think that
the same thing they spend most of their

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life planning for the next life,
kind of a thing like everything's in preparation

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for future lives. They're playing the
long game. So I love that.

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That's cool. Yeah, they know
that this is just one tiny slipper.

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It's just one chapter of a book, you know, so they don't take

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it too seriously. They take it
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the sense that, you know,
get the most out of this lifetime.

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Come back, do it again,
come back and do it again. You're

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stacking experiences on top of each other, you know. Yeah, well,

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you know what, let's let's let's
move on from that, because I know

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we don't want to spend the whole
time time I'm at your dad, But

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thank you for dude. I just
I had to ask, because when I

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started reading your book, I was
like, whoa, that's a wild story.

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So let's let's let's move on to
you man. So, like,

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obviously, as as anybody could imagine, I'm sure that hit you pretty hard

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as a kid. I mean,
it's not easy for anybody when their parent

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goes to prison or walks out on
them or whatever. So is this and

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many other things that I've read in
your book, are you comfortable with me

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talking openly about that? Whatever?
I know, you got involved with some

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people that you know, weren't necessarily
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wondering, like how you fell into
the meditation aspect, if you want to

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elaborate that, like, yeah,
like how it's saved you so to speak?

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Yeah, totally. So. I
mean I kind of look at life

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as just an obstacle course, Like
you know, so all these things are

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obstacles. I don't resent them.
I don't you know, I don't feel

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victimized or anything. I think that
if you look at life as an optical

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course, we're here, we choose
this incarnation to learn and to grow and

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evolve, and we know that there's
going to be all these crazy opticle you

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know, life is just freaking crazy, and that's good. It builds character.

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It's like playing a video game.
If if if you're playing a video

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game and every character, every bad
guy that you ran up to just said

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come on through and just let you
through, and you got to the end

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of the level and you're like,
wow, you'd be like this game sucks.

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I don't want to play this game. Right, So, you play

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games because they're hard. A lot
of times you even like ramp up the

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difficulty level too hard, and you're
like, I want to play that on

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hard you know, it's fun and
it's it challenges you and that's how you

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build character. So I think life
is like that. I think life is

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hard on purpose, and that's what
we're here for. We're not here to

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take it easy. You don't learn
anything a utopia, you know. So

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we're here to be challenged and you
embrace it. And so throughout my life,

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yeah man, and yeah, I've
had so many challenges in my life.

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It's it's nuts. And you kind
of have to adapt that mindset to

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keep you saying and to keep you
going because if not, it's easy to

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look at world as like evil and
twisted and why am I victim? Yeah,

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and because it's easy to find data
to back that up and be like,

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oh, it's a soul trap and
all this stuff, But we're in

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reality. What my research and experience
has told me is that this is more

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more like a challenging video game than
anything. That's just our metaphors we live

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in this day and age, and
that's like grad school for the soul.

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Yeah, it's a university. I
really think that that. That's why they

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call them universities like that. Throughout
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its own things that you come to
learn and it's like what the rescrusions say,

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people know a lot more than anybody

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else. I mean, yeah,
for sure. Back back in the day,

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everyone was a lot. We're more
dense now, we're more physical humans

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now, back in the day dense
in a lot of ways. We're dence

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here, but we're dense matter wise
too. I think back in the day,

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people were way more connected to the
spiritual real They just they were They

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saw beings, they got information in
a more fluid state, and they just

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knew more. Now, you know, we get freaked out if we see

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anything like like your family, Ryan, you see all these these lights and

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orbs, and people just lose their
mind. I think back in the day

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that was probably very common. I
think people were constantly seeing the stuff and

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it was just normal. Now we're
so dense and we're so disconnected that it's

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like crazy and people it must be
photoshopped and whatever. You know, it's

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being a it's a it's a whatever. Swam. Yeah. But that bring

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up a really interesting point, uh, because like, for instance, when

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Ryan's dad first saw the beings,
you know, like Ryan, you you

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you probably would agree with this.
I mean, has your dad always been

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like a very devout spiritual man,
always devout Christian at least. Yes,

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he's never been atheist in the slightest. He always believed in God. So

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so you know, the way I
look at it is every like exoteric religion

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has those kernels of truth in the
middle, and I think I think that

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people like your dad and my dad
too, like like you know that are

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super devout, but they see through
all of kind of the muck straight into

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the middle. Maybe that is why
you know he was so willing to accept

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it early on. Uh, because
I just wanted to share this with you,

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Jordan, because you said, probably
freaks a lot of people out and

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whatever. When I first started coming
around, it scared me to death.

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Oh ask Ryan's yeah, well he
was like a fourteen year old kid.

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I mean, yeah, you got
to take that into account. But for

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years it really scared me. And
it wasn't until a lot of these spiritual

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things started to click that it no
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to share that real quick. Sorry
to deal. No, man, that's

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awesome, because you didn't at first, you didn't have the context, you

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know, so whenever something just happens
out of the blue, You're like,

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what the hell is this? But
then when you put it in a context

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and you start to research more and
learn more, and you realize, oh,

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it's this and this, you know, it's connected to this, and

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you know what I mean. You
start to build this context in this like

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little framework around it, and it
makes more sense because something, Yeah,

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if something just comes out of the
blue, you know, yeah, it

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just if it doesn't fit a pattern, if we're not used to seeing it,

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yeah, you know, our brains
go to the worst case scenario and

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we start freaking out. Yeah,
And I have wondered if you know,

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it's like in modern times we were
disconnected, like you were saying, we're

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so disconnected from the spiritual aspect things. And if that's true, then maybe

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back in the day they weren't so
disconnected. And that's why there's all these

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pictures higher glyphs, all these scratchings
of these beings and orbs of light,

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and also these you know, uh, these things like rose re Crucianism and

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these other mystic traditions that have been
talking about these spirits in the sky all

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over the world. Yeah, culture
in the world has some depiction of these

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sky even in you know, all
the way over here in Mexico, you

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know, the serpents of light up
in the sky, they leave a trail

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as they you know, everywhere in
that wild. Yeah, and people just

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like archaeologists dismiss it as it's just
art. It's like no, they're they're

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literally like writing down and carving what
they're seeing. It's not art, it's

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it's it's it's they're recording what they're
seeing. It's observations. And if everyone's

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seeing the same thing and having the
same observation, so guess what it's there?

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You know what I mean, Like
it's like mind blowing, like what

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a magical world must it have been? Yeah, you know, like I

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almost just want to like peek into
that time and just see what it was

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like. Yeah, yeah, I
mean, you know, it's like the

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Yugo cycle. Like I really think
if you start, if you research the

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Yugo cycle, like we're we're just
at a part of the Yuga cycle where

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we're in this physical part where where
it's it's it's not the darkness. Yeah,

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so it's it's just not meant to
be right now. So some people

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get to see it. Some people
have the abilities and and through things like

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the the you know Monroe, you
know, meditations and stuff, you can

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you know, leave this physical plane
and be a part of it. But

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when as far as you're when you're
focused, you know, your consciousness is

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focused in this physical plane right now, and this Yugo cycle we're in.

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You know a lot of that stuff's
just kind of hidden from us, and

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it's part of it. It's part
of a process. It's supposed to be

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that way. It's not like we
did anything wrong or anything. This is

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just part of the cycle. You
know. It's like seasons. You know,

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I think we're in seasons. There's
like, yeah, during the sas

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seasons. Yeah, exactly, it's
cosmic seasons. It's it's our place around

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you know, like how we revolve, you know, around like the moon

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or ball around something. We've evolved
around the Sun and all that kind of

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stuff. The Sun also revolves,
our star, our solar system revolves around

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the super massive black hole, and
as it does that, it passes through

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all these regions of space that we
don't think about. We don't think that,

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we don't realize that this is the
course if you believe that there is

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space and all those kinds of things. But even if there's not, there's

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still cycles. And even if it
is part of the simulation or it's a

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virtual thing, it's still cycle.
The same way it gets cold in the

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winter and hot in the summer.
It doesn't matter what if you believe the

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earth is flat around or whatever.
It still gets hot in the summer cold

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in the winter. There are still
cycles in the simulation, right, and

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as there's still an effect effect exactly. And I think that you know,

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we are in a season. There's
seasons, cosmic seasons, and you know

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the season we're in right now is
this dense materialist season, and it's all

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part of it, you know.
And yeah, that's just what I think.

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And that's what like the yuga cycle
tells you as well. And this

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is thousands of years old, and
yeah, it's essentially kind of like a

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calendar. It's like a seasonal it
describes this. It's a twelve thousand year

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calendar. How many are there?
How many cycles for yugas? But each

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00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.640
yoga is like thousands of years right, yeah, right, yeah, they're

409
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.160
like cosmic ages, you know.
But you know, the good news is

410
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:17.720
according to some there's different there's different
like I guess you could say there's different

411
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.599
sections of Hinduism, you know,
modern, classical, whatever. They have

412
00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.519
different ideas of the yugas and when
they begin and when the end. But

413
00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:27.880
I'm pretty sure Jordan, you might
have some knowledge on this. I learned

414
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:34.599
when I was taking some Rosicrucian studies
from doctor Gilbert. He long story there.

415
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.720
I can get into it later,
but he it's somebody I met through

416
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:42.799
a mutual a CIA type. Yeah. Doctor Gilbert is the man. Yeah,

417
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.960
he's really cool. He lives a
few hours from me, and I

418
00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:48.920
was introduced to him and I took
some courses with him and anyway, so

419
00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:53.279
that was my introduction to Rosicrucianism.
And I learned from him that, according

420
00:24:53.319 --> 00:25:00.559
to a twelve thousand year old Hindu
star chart, that the khalie you is

421
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:06.720
supposed to end in our modern Yeah. Yeah, I knew that we were

422
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.680
at the end of a cycle.
I'm, you know, nowhere near an

423
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.640
expert on any of this stuff.
I just think it's fascinating. It explains

424
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.319
how if you look through like antiquity, and you look through you know,

425
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.279
because I like to study all that, like the catacalysms and you know,

426
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.799
the different likewise and falls of civilizations
and stuff like that, and Atlantans and

427
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.279
that kind of stuff, and it's
really interesting and explains why, you know,

428
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.799
even though there could have been human
civilizations thousands of thousands of years in

429
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:33.160
the past, they would have been
so much different than us because they would

430
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.839
have been existing in a different season
and a different density and a different you

431
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.079
know, like etheric state than we're. Yeah, and it's not really like

432
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.960
good or bad. It's not like
we're worse now or anything. It's just

433
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.960
different. You know. It's kind
of like like flowers wilt in the winter,

434
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:48.480
so they don't look as pretty and
stuff, but they're still flowers,

435
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.480
you know what I mean. They
didn't do anything wrong, they just look

436
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:56.440
kind of shitty in the winter,
and then they an analogy machine. You're

437
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:59.759
really sick with the analogies. You
got to make sense of it in your

438
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:02.759
head, you know. Oh,
that's that's so true. And I feel

439
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.680
like, you know, I always
kind of refer to the analogy of like,

440
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.119
you know, before everything that we
know is like modern reality, like

441
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.559
the infinite consciousness in the sky,
whatever it was, created everything so that

442
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:21.920
it could have a frame of reference
to understand what anything is Yea and the

443
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.640
Yuga cycle. It's it sounds very
similar. It's like things change every every

444
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.960
now and then so that you can
appreciate everything. Yeah, you know what

445
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.119
I mean. It's just like we, like you just said, we appreciate

446
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:38.799
the spring because the winter's so bleak, you know, and we appreciate each

447
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:45.119
season more because of the season that
came before it. Yeah, And I

448
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.799
think change is important. What I
hear a lot of people talk about,

449
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:49.599
like when they study, Like Robert
Monroe talked about this when he was,

450
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.119
you know, connecting with his guys
which were past lives of his and stuff,

451
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.039
and they're in the the you know, astral plane, and they would

452
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.160
talk about how they made it to
Earth and why they're at Earth and why

453
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.079
they stayed to Earth and all the
different incarnations and that kind of stuff.

454
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.160
And they would always say they got
bored where they were before. You've heard

455
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.079
people talk about this with like the
Roman and Greek gods and that kind of

456
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.279
stuff. And I think that when
you are I think we have places like

457
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:17.440
Earth these physical simulators, because if
you're an immortal being and you can't die

458
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.400
and you can't you know, anything
like that, it gets boring right when

459
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.480
they get it would get boring,
Like do you want to float around on

460
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:25.400
a freaking cloud and play a harp
for the the rest of the fraternity?

461
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.720
You know, Like who wants to
do that? Like gets boring? So

462
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:32.480
what do you do? You create? You create worlds, You create simulations,

463
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:37.559
You create things to experience and to
you know, to to have fun

464
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.400
and to have adventures and that kind
of stuff. And I really think and

465
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:45.359
to feel exactly, And I think
that's what explains a lot of reality.

466
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.000
And I think that a lot of
this is is we're playing games in a

467
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.519
sense. I think they're important games, but I think that they are games

468
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.160
in a sense because in the actual
realm and then whatever is beyond that act,

469
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.119
I think that there's more beyond that. I think that it might get

470
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:00.319
a little boring, and I think
that change is important. So I think

471
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.240
that's why they do these things with
the cataclysms and with the Yuga cycles and

472
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.720
that kind of stuff. It's part
is one of my theories is that that's

473
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.720
the exact reason that like with Christianity, I was always like, wouldn't it

474
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:17.039
get boring in Heaven? Wouldn't it
get like just real boring after a while.

475
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.039
I remember being a kid in church, like ten years old, dude,

476
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.319
and like being in you know,
they had like the youth. A

477
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.960
lot of times they would have like
a youth Sunday school, like the adults

478
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.640
are out here and the kids are
out here, you know, at some

479
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.039
churches, and I remember being in
those. Yeah, And I remember being

480
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.759
in one of those classes. And
as a kid, my family was like,

481
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.039
you don't mess around with you don't
blaspheme, you know what I mean,

482
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.079
you don't question any of it.
And I remember hearing kids being like,

483
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.359
when I go to Heaven, I'm
going to turn into the incredible Hulk.

484
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.839
And I just sat there and I'm
like me, Yeah, as a

485
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.480
kid, I was like thinking in
my head, like, man, that

486
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.799
would be really cool, isn't it. Maybe that's what the Greek and Roman

487
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.480
gods were, you know, They're
like, now I can be the incredible

488
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:06.000
whole if I if I was a
god up in the clouds, i'd be

489
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.960
having metal shows like metal shows.
No, but anyway, Yeah, that's

490
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:12.799
that's really interesting. Yeah, it's
like it kind of does get boring here

491
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.880
in ordinary reality. But I'm sure
and also at some point gets boring up

492
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.119
there too, where you know everything
and it's perfect. That's why things got

493
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.759
to change. Yeah, that's the
thing is like, you know, if

494
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.480
you're all knowing and you're you know, eternal and all those things, it

495
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.279
would get so boring, you know, because you already know everything and you

496
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.440
know. So I think that they
create and they create worlds, and they

497
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.839
create this like evolutionary cycle and you
know, this world will lead to another

498
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.200
world and you know, this life
form will will create another life form.

499
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.440
And I think that's what you see
with with you know, us creating AI

500
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.200
and all these things were just constantly
creating. If you look at human beings

501
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.359
in general, they never stop making
stuff. They never stopped creating. Like

502
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.000
if you just if you just look
like go on a highway in the morning

503
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:53.960
and you just think about every one
of those cars, all those people got

504
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.880
up in the morning and are driving
to work to do something. You know,

505
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:00.640
like our our society, we just
we build and we create, and

506
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.319
we want to make bigger things and
stronger things and faster things, and we're

507
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.359
just building building building, And I've
always wondered why, like what are we

508
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.400
building tours? Like what are we
what is this driving factor, you know,

509
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.839
because it's just it seems that to
be like inside of us, you

510
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.839
know. Yeah, I think it's
something inherent. It's like it's inherently coded

511
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:29.079
in existence itself. That like existence
just grows from itself organically, like from

512
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:34.039
the biggest macro cosm to the tiniest
little microcosm. Like existence, anything that

513
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:40.839
exists, it just multiplerates, it
proliferates. Yeah, yeah, I mean

514
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.319
everything, like if you look at
like how flowers pollen eight and how you

515
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.599
know, everything works. It's just
it's that that is life, and we're

516
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.440
just a part of life. Like
our job is to grow and expand,

517
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:55.200
so maybe our job here on Earth
is to you know, grow and expand

518
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:56.759
off this planet. It really seems
like everybody, if you actually look at

519
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.480
everybody, they're trying to get off
this planet, you know, billionaires and

520
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.799
everyone trying to get this planet.
And I don't even know if we can.

521
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:06.440
That's a whole probably a whole nother
I don't even know if we can.

522
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.279
And I have a couple of NASA
who agree. I have a crazy

523
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.920
theory, I'll tell you real quick. So I've been working on this that

524
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.759
like when like as as we move
through and we evolve and we get technologically

525
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.519
advanced. They're going to learn in
the future, this is just a theory.

526
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.400
They're going to learn in the future
that we can't get off this planet,

527
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.160
so we can't go to like Mars
or out of the Solar System.

528
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.440
But what they do do is they
figure out time travel, and then there's

529
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.200
going to come a time in the
future where the Earth is having problems,

530
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.240
maybe it's uninhabitab wards, go in
that direction. And they know that at

531
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:41.680
this point they figured out where basically
in a simulation, they're stuck on this

532
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:47.160
plane here and they know that they
can't leave this planet. Where they can

533
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:48.400
do is go back in time.
And maybe they went back in time found

534
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.839
a nice, pretty place, and
that's what Atlantis is. Atlantis is actually

535
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.480
time traveling humans from the future that
went back in time because they had to

536
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.960
get off of the present day Earth, but they couldn't leave the planet,

537
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.400
you know what I mean. And
there's a lot of stuff that backs this

538
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.839
up. And I have found a
lot of really interesting things that back up

539
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.960
the time travel hypothesis of a lot
of the stuff we're seeing that we can't

540
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.680
explain, you know, the Nordics
and the UFOs and that kind of stuff

541
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.920
are literally time traveling humans. And
you know, if you go back in

542
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.960
time, Like there's a guy named
Michael Masters and he is a you know,

543
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.759
PhD anthropologist and he studies, you
know, the past, and he

544
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:28.920
actually started studying the past and it
led him to you know, aliens and

545
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:30.880
led him to future. He was
trying to figure out, Okay, are

546
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.319
these great aliens actually humans in the
future and all this kind of stuff,

547
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:37.000
and he actually is now convinced of
the same thing that you know, these

548
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:43.200
are time traveling humans and that it's
really interesting and there's a lot of science

549
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.720
and data and stuff that backs this
up, and it's all just a theory,

550
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.240
but it makes you think because he
was talking about he's like nature always

551
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.039
sorts of simple and then goes to
complex. So there's nothing that he can

552
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.359
find in the archaeological record that would
explain why fifteen twenty thousand years ago there

553
00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:00.200
was an advanced civilization of humans and
then they died off and then we went

554
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.079
back to like primates and resa and
stuff like that, and rece like,

555
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.480
it doesn't make sense, that's just
not how nature works. So the only

556
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.839
thing that would explain it is if
they actually came from the future, and

557
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:13.400
why would future humans just go back
to a previous time on Earth At that

558
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.839
point there's so you know, advanced
technologically, they would leave Earth and go

559
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.960
somewhere else. What if you can't
leave Earth, what if we're quarantine here,

560
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.359
or what if there's no physical way
to leave Earth? What they would

561
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.359
do is they would just go back
in time. So just the theory,

562
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:29.880
but it's pretty wild theory, and
it makes sense, like there's a lot

563
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:35.480
of evidence to support that there was
some sort of like hyper advanced civilization a

564
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.279
long time ago. Yeah, and
it you know, a lot of different

565
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:42.400
cultures point to it. It's not
just like from one source or anything.

566
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:46.559
This is I mean, most most
ancient cultures have some weird stuff going on

567
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:51.319
that just is like not easily explained. And I really like that theory.

568
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.440
I think that every interesting. I
think there have been many cycles of civilization

569
00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.160
that live here. I think this
is the realm where we cross between the

570
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.519
material and the spiritual worlds, and
it's like you can imagine like we're inside

571
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.679
the heart chakra of a celestial deity, you know, like we're ascending through

572
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:17.440
the spiritual centers of some higher being, and I feel like every cycle comes

573
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:24.039
here to learn how to find love, like true universal cosmic light and love,

574
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:29.280
the real love, not just romantic
love, but like unconditional you could

575
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:34.519
say Christ or Budhic love. And
then at some point, you know,

576
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.480
individually, we all ascend and don't
need to come here anymore. But it

577
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:44.280
seems to be that there are also
many times in the ancient past where civilization

578
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.880
has been completely wiped out by cataclysms
and reset because it's like we said,

579
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.800
there's seasons just like winter and then
all the plants die and then spring.

580
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.360
That has to be on a macro
scale too. Yeah, it's it's cyclical.

581
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.000
I mean, there's a guy named
Jason Bershears. He has a channel

582
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.800
called Archaics. I don't know if
you're a heard of it, but if

583
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:06.599
not, check him out on YouTube. He's incredible and he actually was able

584
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.920
to put together this chronological like he
was in prison for like twenty six years

585
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.960
and all he did was try to
piece together the true history of our planet

586
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.400
and our species and everything, and
it's wild, it'll blow your freaking mind.

587
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:23.199
But he's been able to pinpoint exact
the exact like cyclical cataclysm, and

588
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.599
it's he's convinced now that we're in
a simulation, because he says, it's

589
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:32.199
so fine tuned and precise and it's
so precisely tied to the pyramids that there's

590
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.440
no way it can be anything but
you know, created, like there's no

591
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.159
way it can beate advanced or anything. It's it's it is a it's like

592
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.280
a time keeping thing. It's it's
it's like seasons. It happens, you

593
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.039
know, perfectly. It's too perfect, you know, and it's wild.

594
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.880
You said love. There's actually a
principle in Rosicrucianism that talks about us being

595
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.639
spirits of love and freedom. That's
the exact words that they use as that's

596
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.159
what humans are. And the way
they define love and freedom is it's the

597
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:06.239
polarity. So love is actually bringing
people together. Whenever you love someone or

598
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:08.239
something or a community or something,
you're bringing you know, things together.

599
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.840
It's attraction. It's attraction, yes, and then freedom is the opposite.

600
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.000
Freedom is you want to be free, you want to leave, you want

601
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.039
to explore, you want to go
away, you want to move away.

602
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.000
That's freedom. So the Rescriutians describe
it as We humans are spirits of love

603
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.280
and freedom, and that's what we
are here to explore. That's our purpose

604
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.159
on earth is to explore both love
and freedom. And neither one's right or

605
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.840
wrong. It's just it's kind of
like negative positive. It's polarity. It's

606
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.559
light dark, you know, so
love and freedom. So I love that

607
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.239
analogy because we're that saying because usually
hear like love and hate or something like

608
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.800
that, and they try to say
like one's good and one's bad. But

609
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.360
it's not one's good one's bad.
It's just two sides. It's like if

610
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.840
you have a battery, you have
a positive a negative. Well, one's

611
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.519
not a bad side of the battery, it's just the opposite side of It's

612
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.960
just how energy moves exactly. I
like that, replacing the hate with freedom.

613
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:59.039
I like that because it's more of
a positive spin. It's really cool.

614
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.880
Interesting. So, how have you
like been in the Rosicrucian Order or

615
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.199
you're just like us? Were you
just like studying it because the material is

616
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.320
interesting? No? Yeah, No, I'm not any sort of initia in

617
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.519
anything. I try to stay as
agnostic as possible across the board, you

618
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.159
know. I like to just keep
all options on the table because I don't

619
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.119
know what the hell is going on
out there. The world's crazy, and

620
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:22.599
every time I think I know what's
going on, a month later, I'm

621
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.639
like, Nope, that was wrong, and I'm onto something else. So

622
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.920
no, I just fascinated by,
you know, like that the ancient you

623
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.480
know, like the Gnostics and stuff
like that, like when people before they

624
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.039
were really indoctrinated and stuff like that. I like to to, you know,

625
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.840
kind of pursue what were people thinking
back then, back then before these

626
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.599
like you know, these groups of
power and authority came in and censored stuff

627
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.000
and everything like that, you know, before the Roman Church got real big,

628
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.880
before all this stuff happened, Like
what were people thinking back then when

629
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.920
they were more spiritually connected and that
kind of stuff. And you go back

630
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:58.760
to the Gnostics and then you know, the rosicrusions and stuff like that,

631
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.400
because they they kind of piggybacked or
whatever, you know, off of the

632
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.079
NaSTA teachings, and it's just to
me, it's just fascinating because they're humans

633
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:07.280
and they're just trying to do the
same thing as us, to figure out

634
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:12.559
what's going on, how can we
optimize this earth life experience? Like like,

635
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.760
what's our goal, here's our point
here, And they came at it

636
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.119
from a completely different perspective than anyone
now, and when you research the stuff,

637
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.639
you're like, man, you can't
help but think, I think they're

638
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.639
right, Like they're onto something for
sure. And then whenever you realize how

639
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:29.400
many people in power, you know, believe these same things and they try

640
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:30.800
to keep a hush from the rest
of the world. And of course he

641
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.079
would because like if you kind of
discover the secret, you know, you

642
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.639
don't want everyone to discover secrets.
And it's not a secret anymore, so,

643
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.320
especially if you've figured out some way
to like manipulate it, you know,

644
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:47.119
like to your favor at power by
look, exploit it. Really that's

645
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.320
a better way to exploit it.
Yeah, I mean, of course you'd

646
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:52.880
want to hoard that for yourself.
Yeah. And I mean a lot of

647
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.320
these people, like you know,
I don't believe like Masons are bad or

648
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:59.440
anything like that. I think it's
just, you know, obviously there's good

649
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.960
and bad of everything. But I
think it's just once you kind of unlock

650
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.519
these things and you realize these powerful
techniques and these powerful methods, it's kind

651
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.760
of hard not to let some of
that power go to your head. And

652
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:14.440
I think humans are pretty easily corruptible, So I think sometimes these people will

653
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.119
do things that we would look at
and think that's maybe shady or whatever,

654
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:20.440
but also from their point of view, they look at it like that's what

655
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.199
they're supposed to be doing, or
they're you know, it's like if you

656
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.719
find the cheat codes in the game, you know, and then the other

657
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.800
players get mad at you because you're
you have the cheat codes. It's like,

658
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:30.880
well, you're like, hey,
y'all can find the cheat codes too,

659
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.480
you know what I mean, Like
they're out there, you know what

660
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:37.400
I mean. So do the analogies
audit? Yeah? Audit No. I

661
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.639
like that because like all the ancient
teachers and even like the mystery schools,

662
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.000
they teach profound mysteries and analogy.
And it's because it impacts the subconscious mind.

663
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.480
And I think when you paint,
when you paint the analogy, it

664
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.559
makes a very simple picture that our
mind can grasp. Yes, you know

665
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.079
what I mean. It's the easiest
way to understand complex subjects just through analogies.

666
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.960
Totally off topic, but also not
really. I studied kung fu pretty

667
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.880
seriously. You could say religiously.
For four years, I was part of

668
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.760
a very hardcore school three days a
week minimum. I was going showing up,

669
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:12.079
was being prepped to be like one
of the senior students of the Wing

670
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.719
Chun school. And what something that
really impacted me was the Seafoo, which

671
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.400
is, for those who don't know, seafoo is the Chinese version of sense.

672
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.639
You know, seafoo. So Seafoo
would always talk about things in these

673
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:29.639
simple analogies. It's like when you're
trying to do a certain hand movement and

674
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.119
he would be like, imagine your
arm is just a stick floating on the

675
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.159
water. Or imagine you're just you
know, you're in a certain stance.

676
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.559
Imagine you're just bamboo flowing in the
wind. It was all these simple analogies,

677
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.639
but it's like, uh, it
kind of clicks when you say it

678
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.400
that way. Yeah, who else
is like that? Jesus, Buddha.

679
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.480
The mystery schools. I've been diving
into the gnostic methods. It's all kinds

680
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.880
of analogies about the mind waking up, and it's very profound stuff. That's

681
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:58.159
to me, that's the mark of
a very intelligent mind that grasps the mystery.

682
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.760
So kudos, kudos to you,
my friend. Pretty hey. I

683
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.599
mean people have always told me to
have a way of explaining things where they

684
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.199
can understand it. I always just
like, that's how my brain interprets things,

685
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.159
you know, So I'm not like
running it through a filter or anything.

686
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.559
I just that's that's the way it
pops up in my head. So

687
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:16.920
I just that's how it comes out. Like, you know, I'm known

688
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.039
for us in pretty wild metaphors and
and cussing a lot and making some inappropriate

689
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.000
connections and stuff. But it's like
it's whatever, Oh yeah, yeah,

690
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:29.440
I don't know. It's it's whatever, whatever resonates, whatever gets the message

691
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.320
across. It's kind of like like
crop circles. I think those are like

692
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.599
messages embedded and uh images kind of
a thing. You know. It's like

693
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:37.199
it's one of those things where you
know, I don't know, it take

694
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.400
me forever to explain something in like
detail, but you just give like a

695
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.400
oh, it's kind of like this
and this, and people like, oh,

696
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.880
I get it, you know what
I mean. You know, it's

697
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.480
like a Confucianism. You know.
You know who Allow Zoo is. Yeah,

698
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.159
yeah, he's one of my favorite
now Zoo's awesome god, and it's

699
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.880
amazing and he can like have this. Didn't he RaSE that Heart of War?

700
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:00.639
No? That was oh Sun Soukang. Remind me what allows you wrote?

701
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.400
I know the name, I cannot
remember the work, you know he

702
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.519
for I forget the name too.
It's it's an ancient, ancient manuscript.

703
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.800
But he he was kind of like, you know, it's sort of like

704
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.760
Confucianism, where like he would be
able to say something incredibly profound the same

705
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.840
reason like stoicism stoicism, same way
they can say something incredibly profound that will

706
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:23.880
change your life and change the way
you think about things. And and it's

707
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:28.960
actually just this simple, little elementary
type statement, you know what I mean.

708
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:30.760
But it's like we're just breaking things
down, we're breaking complex down the

709
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.960
simple and and sometimes that has a
bigger impact than you know, some huge

710
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.400
equations. Clouds louds sue, it's
coming back to me. Did he write

711
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:45.599
something about the tao Yeah, there
you go, Yeah you got it.

712
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.159
He was one of the like,
I mean, not founders, but he's

713
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:53.679
a legendary Taoist. Yeah. It's
funny, man. You started reading it

714
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.360
and I it just popped into my
head toow yea he wrote ta ta ching

715
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.960
yeah, which has been like interpreted
and translated a million times. I don't

716
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.079
know if you actually can get the
original yet so old, but I mean,

717
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.360
you know, the the intentions there, and uh, I really like

718
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:13.480
the pook. Yeah yeah, it's
so simple. And I mean, you

719
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.239
know, I love just kind of
analyzing all, you know, all these

720
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.920
religions because they all get like a
lot of things right, you know.

721
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.239
And you may have been onto something, I'm sorry to interrupt, onto something

722
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:29.519
because Lousi uh did have writings in
the Art of War. There were there

723
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:34.039
were quotes and writings in the Yeah
that's cool. Yeah, yeah, sweet,

724
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.920
that's yeah, that's that's that's super
super super cool. I only bring

725
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:42.320
him because you're talking about the metaphor
thing and he was a he was,

726
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.599
you know, a king at that
of Oh yeah, simplifying things, but

727
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.280
in a way to where you read
it and you're like, man, that

728
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:51.239
really hit me deep, you know
what I mean. It's like it's such

729
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.079
a simple just like maybe eight or
nine words, you know, isn't the

730
00:43:55.199 --> 00:44:00.960
Art of War where that one quote
about the warrior in the garden is from

731
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.960
now I'm not sure. I want
to say it may be, but I

732
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.000
mean, look at that for instance, that's an ancient It's essentially just an

733
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.519
ancient analogy, you know what I
mean. It's better to be a warrior

734
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:16.400
in a garden than a gardener in
a war. Like that's that's it.

735
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:21.440
I haven't heard that. Yeah,
you might live peacefully in the garden,

736
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.079
but if you're trained and you're a
prepared warrior, you're ready for anything.

737
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.519
You don't want to be the gardener
who's brought to war and you have no

738
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.880
training and no preparation. Yeah,
you got a lot. Yeah, stuff

739
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.400
like that. I love that.
Another great example, and then you know

740
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:37.239
we can we can kick this to
the curb. But the karate kid bro,

741
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.400
let me tell you, in real
hardcore martial arts, the stuff about

742
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:44.599
the wax on wax off, it's
like people might think that's a joke.

743
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.280
But like wing chun, the majority
of wing Chun training was sensitivity training.

744
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.320
You know, we would have two
hour classes. Only an hour of them

745
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.840
was like a battle like, you
know, sparring with people. The first

746
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.679
hour would be doing some like some
some what do you call him forms?

747
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.920
But but the majority of it was
sensitivity training, like chisaw lopsole learning.

748
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:15.280
It's like you're you're you're drilling very
simple motions with your hands in your arms

749
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:23.480
in order to subconsciously, through repetition, reinforce very complex maneuvers. You know,

750
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.400
you can kind of think about it
like an analogy, but it's like

751
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:29.960
you're doing this simple thing over and
over and over and over to strengthen your

752
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.440
muscle memory and learning how to flow, yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah,

753
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.159
how to react. But like they
show that in the Karate Kid when

754
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.920
he's like he makes him do the
wax mon and the wax off over and

755
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.000
over and over, and he's like, this is stupid. Why am I

756
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.360
doing this? And then it gets
to the tournament he starts whooping ass because

757
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:51.239
he has the muscle memory, he
doesn't have to think about it. To

758
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.239
me, that's like analogy for the
mind and deep complex mysteries. I don't

759
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.880
know. I don't know if there's
a relation there, but I feel like

760
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.920
there has to be. I don't
know. I've just always felt that Mark

761
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:06.239
Arts is so like connected to the
realm of spirituality. It is you know

762
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.599
what I mean, because if you
go that route, it is what do

763
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:10.960
you mean? Oh right? Right. You can look at it as I'm

764
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:15.599
just trying to fight, you can, but that's not the whole story.

765
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.079
Especially with like traditional martial arts,
very meditative trance like states, you know,

766
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.280
being hyper aware of your body and
how everything is connected. It can

767
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:28.480
be very spiritual when fighting is always
taught as the last resort, you know

768
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.920
what I mean. Right, You're
taught how to fight, you're taught to

769
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.599
be a warrior, but you're also
taught to only do it if everything else

770
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.599
fills you know, right, And
I think that's kind of how life is.

771
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:38.760
Like, you know, sometimes in
life you have to fight, you

772
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.199
know, but you should try everything
else first, you know what I mean,

773
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:50.079
unless you're in Cobra Kai No Mercy. How's that working out for them?

774
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:55.960
Hey? They got another Netflix true
and they drive cool cars and yeah,

775
00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.719
it's like it's working out all right, that's awesome. So, like,

776
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.039
I wanted to bring this up earlier, but I didn't want to cut

777
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.199
you off. But did you happen
to catch my Dad's book, Like,

778
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:08.800
did you read it? Yeah?
Okay, So they talked about this a

779
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:13.519
little bit in the last chapter,
but we're actually very heavily behind the scenes,

780
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:16.199
pretty involved with Monroe, and soon
that might change. It might be

781
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:21.000
a little bit more of an involvement
hopefully, But yeah, we're very cool

782
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.880
with him. I'm one hundred percent
behind Monroe. Obviously, we never had

783
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:29.320
the pleasure of meeting Robert Monroe.
But you know, my dad and my

784
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.639
sister have been there on a private
I guess you'd call it retreat, and

785
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:39.159
my sister definitely had an astral travel
experience there wild stuff. She told this

786
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.000
story on an episode of the show, so check it out. She did.

787
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.480
Yeah, she told that she I
can send it to you. I

788
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:46.159
don't know what it is off the
top my head, and it was probably

789
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:51.159
a year ago. But the point
is you were mentioning earlier about brain scans

790
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:57.159
and how they were finding the people
doing the Hemi sync had similar results in

791
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:02.719
the brain as Lifetime Master meditators.
Interestingly enough, on the History Channel episode

792
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.800
that recently came out about my dad, they found the same result when they

793
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.599
had the brain scan on him and
he was connecting with the phenomenon and they

794
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:15.800
appeared same exact data he had.
The the theta wave state was very heavy

795
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.360
in his brain exactly. They even
said it the same way they presented it

796
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.320
the same way. It's like,
you know, master meditators. Now this

797
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.199
isn't something that I think was explicitly
mentioned on the episode, but there was

798
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.760
an individual by the name of Colonel
John Alexander. I'm sure you could recall

799
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.159
him. He was on the episode. He was on the boat ride with

800
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.480
my dad and my brother in that
segment, and he did a couple of

801
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.480
little interview bits. But so the
moral of the story is he is the

802
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:46.599
guy. He's one of the key
guys who on behalf of the federal government

803
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:53.440
ran that psychic spy program that was
linked to the Monroe and he is especially

804
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:58.360
in this realm that we were talking
about and what I wanted to tell you

805
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.079
to reinforce what you were saying,
and I thought maybe you would really like

806
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:06.679
this, Jordan. So, for
example, my wife and I we've been

807
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.039
together ten years now, not married
ten, but together ten and she didn't

808
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:15.000
see any of this phenomenon stuff with
us until we were together for at least

809
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:19.039
two years. Talk about drive you
nuts. You're at the house we lived

810
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.400
ten minutes away. She's met all
these CIA officers, all these NASSAVE people,

811
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:23.760
all these people from out of town
who come and you know, they

812
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:27.760
want a SkyWatch. She didn't see
a single thing until two years in Dude.

813
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.599
It was so like she she had
this thing in her head like am

814
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:35.239
I unworthy? Am I not a
part of this family? Am I wanted?

815
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.480
Though? Oh badly? Yeah?
Yeah, she believed the whole time,

816
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:43.440
and it was so My point is, around twenty fifteen, we started

817
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.280
getting really involved with the Monroe people, not like going to the Monroe but

818
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:52.840
like with Alexander and so, long
story short, they they gave us the

819
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:54.760
Hemisinct tapes, which back then you
had to buy him for like five hundred

820
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:58.280
bucks. I think now you can
find them free on like Spotify and Apple

821
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:01.360
Music and stuff. They were very
expensive, not easy access. They gave

822
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:05.360
them to us for free, like
kind of behind the scenes. Don't share

823
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:10.280
this with anybody. My wife starts
listening to himI Sync, specifically the Gateway

824
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:15.480
Project, and I'm telling you,
man. So, her grandfather died and

825
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:21.519
it was an unfortunate, really sudden
like he got diagnosed with cancer in June

826
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.920
of twenty fifteen, started radiation,
chemo and all that. He was dead

827
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:30.320
in September. It was a very
tragic, overwhelming shock to her family and

828
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.880
anyway, so September of twenty fifteen, like the week after her grandpa dies.

829
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.519
We go to New York City.
Long story short, I'm gonna spare

830
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.000
all the details. We meet Alexander
and some other CIA people. They give

831
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:45.280
us the Hemi Sink tapes. We
get back home, Jenny starts listening to

832
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.880
them. Within days, she starts
having these profound dreams about her grandpa,

833
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.199
who she just lost. She starts
having these dreams like she was kind of

834
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.639
getting some resolution from it. As
the days go by a couple. I

835
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.840
think we're in December now of the
same year, So we're in December now.

836
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.119
She starts having dams about my dad
and seeing the beings. And remember

837
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:06.800
she hadn't seen anything yet. So
she starts she had this dream where she's

838
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.159
sitting with my dad and she's in
her driveway, but she's sitting beside my

839
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:14.079
dad and he's like showing her orbs
and stuff. And I'm telling you,

840
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:19.000
Jordan, within days in real time
of having that dream, and then boom,

841
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.280
she saw the phenomenon. She saw
an orb over her car. And

842
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.960
I'm telling you, bro, like, there's the reason I brought this up

843
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:29.880
was I, first of all,
I find it so impressive that on your

844
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:35.960
own time, you just naturally gravitated
towards this through your own intuition. That's

845
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:38.280
that's very awesome. But the other
thing is like to encourage you to keep

846
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:45.159
going. I have had the privilege
to live behind the scenes with these institutions

847
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.559
and and and learn from them firsthand
and received this what used to be secret

848
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:53.199
knowledge, And like I, it's
crazy. What's what's possible when we put

849
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.639
our brain in this theda meditative state, you know, opening us up to

850
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.679
invisible world and seeing manifestation of the
spirit world or like you said, lowering

851
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:07.679
your blood pressure or raising it it
will you know, we can do incredible

852
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.079
things through meditation. But that's anyway
I mean, I wanted to share that

853
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.519
with you. No, that's so
awesome because I would explain why there's so

854
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:15.960
many stories of people like say,
there'll be a group of people and only

855
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.840
some of them see an orb or
UFO or something like that, and other

856
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.599
people that were there looking at the
same place or whatever didn't see anything.

857
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.000
I mean, if it has to
do more with your mental state and your

858
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.400
brain waves, that could explain why
two people could be looking at the same

859
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.280
thing and seeing two different things we're
not seeing to their you know, it's

860
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.079
almost like you have to be on
that same level. You have to be

861
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.440
tuned into that same frequency if to
be awake it. Yeah, and which

862
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:45.159
is you know interesting if you think
about like our brains and everything as like

863
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:46.800
a receiver, the way I think
about reality is like, you know,

864
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.159
we're a receiver kind of like a
TV. So you know there's a signal,

865
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.760
you know, a radio, TV, computer or anything. There's these

866
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:58.920
signals constantly fill in the air,
propagating through the air at all times.

867
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:00.519
Like we're all around us, you
know, all three of us right now.

868
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.920
There's all these waves, radio waves
and band waves and all these different

869
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.679
waves, and we can't see them
or hear them or touch them that we

870
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.400
don't even know they're But if you
have the right instrument tuned to the right

871
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:14.639
station kind of a thing, tune
to the right frequency, you can tap

872
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:15.960
into them. So if you have
a radio with the right antenna, you

873
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.000
can pick up the radio waves.
If you have a rap you know,

874
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:21.679
a computer can pick up you know, the Wi Fi signal, you know

875
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:23.800
what I mean. So our brains
are like the same thing when it's tuned

876
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:27.880
the right way to the right signal
channel and see channel. You know,

877
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.039
then we see things, but they're
always there. So when you hear people

878
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.480
say things like they've always been here, aliens are walk among us. You

879
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.719
know, these things are always and
I use the word alien loosely, but

880
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:38.960
you know what I mean. Right
when people describe these paranormal things as always

881
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.679
being here, as a part of
our fabric of our world, our reality,

882
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:45.960
and people can't wrap their head around
that. Well, it's the same

883
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:51.039
thing like right now, there's waves
energy fill in this room, and if

884
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:52.760
I were able to pull up my
phone, it could tap into it.

885
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.599
I could see things on my phone. If I had a radio, I

886
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:59.440
could hear things on the radio or
Wi Fi. We're constantly connected to them,

887
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.320
so the brains can you were like
a receiver. We just have to

888
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:04.519
tune it to the right station and
we can pick these things up. And

889
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.079
that's what the Himmi sync did for
me. I mean when I was doing

890
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.280
these meditations just to lower my blood
pressure and you get more like in a

891
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:14.800
calm state, I mean, all
sorts of crazy stuff happened. I mean

892
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:19.119
it was like I meditate basically every
single night, and I have for about

893
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:21.679
three years. Now, And at
first it was just for health reasons and

894
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.199
now it's I mean, I use
it for different things. I got into

895
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:28.159
patterning, like manifestation that kind of
stuff, and then you know, healing

896
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.559
and that kind of stuff, and
a big part of it's also just I

897
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:34.400
learned how to establish connection with my
guides and get information, like you know,

898
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.400
direct downloads, like for personal information
like helping me on my path and

899
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:40.440
that kind of stuff. So I
use it for those kinds of things.

900
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:45.039
But you know, just inadvertently,
I've had wild experiences. I mean I've

901
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:50.440
I've astral traveled and had experiences with
entities and stuff like that, because you

902
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.320
know, it's a zoo out there, and if once you leave this little

903
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:57.159
bubble, you're in another bubble.
You know, it's kind of like running

904
00:54:57.159 --> 00:54:59.840
into a forest. You know,
it's like like run into a jungle.

905
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.760
It's like you're gonna run into some
stuff every now and then if you run

906
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.400
deep enough into the jungle, some
of it's nice and cuddly and some of

907
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.800
it's not. So you know,
I've run in all sorts of stuff,

908
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.639
just like I'm sure y'all have.
And I know Robert Monroe ran into all

909
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:14.960
sorts of stuff and they take it
seriously. So when you do the stuff

910
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.599
properly, you protect yourself. You
put up this energy bubble around yourself.

911
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.159
You know. You you say these
you know they have these mantras and intentions

912
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.360
and everything that you say that protect
you because you can protect yourself. And

913
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.199
it's kind of like if you're if
you're going out into a jungle, you're

914
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:30.199
probably gonna take a gun with you. You're probably gonna, you know,

915
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.800
take some protection with you. It's
kind of the same thing when you go

916
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:36.599
out there in nastural realm. You
protect yourself, you know, cause you

917
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:37.920
never know what you're going to run
into. But most of it's mental.

918
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:42.639
You know, most of it's mental. But it's it's interesting. You never

919
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.000
know. Once I put on those
headphones and I get into hym sink,

920
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.239
I never know where I'm gonna end
up. And it's it's kind of wild

921
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.280
sometimes, like cause you can control
it to an extent, but sometimes I

922
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:53.719
sort of black out. Like there's
a lot of times when I do the

923
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:58.840
tapes and five minutes in I'm lucid, I'm controlling where I'm going, and

924
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:00.079
then I wake up at the end. I always wake up his voice,

925
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:05.079
so yeah, and he'll be like, you're now coming back to your waking

926
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:07.119
consciousness that kind of stuff. And
I'll wake up and I'll be like,

927
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:14.440
holy, you know, you don't
remember even going out, but like you

928
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:17.039
know, it's you'll you'll have some
wild experiences. And and you know he

929
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:24.800
always meditate with with the HEMI sync. Not always it's a little more hardcore,

930
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.719
you know. I say that,
I don't mean it in a bad

931
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.119
way. I mean it just it's
a little more intense, you know when

932
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.440
you do because like I said,
you never know. Sometimes that just black

933
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:37.880
out. And at that point,
I you you actual project most of the

934
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.519
time, like you leave. Like
that's what when you go through these processes

935
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:44.360
and you go through the resonant tuning
and you go through all the steps,

936
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:49.599
you you get to a point where
you're you're you're vibrating at such a kind

937
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.039
of quick pace that you basically turn
into like a flat line of energy.

938
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.599
And then that's when you can actually
transcend and go into higher states of consciousness.

939
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.920
And when you do that, it's
kind of like when you sleep at

940
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.760
night. When you go to sleep, your body sleeps, but your consciousness

941
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:06.920
doesn't go to sleep, your consciousness
goes in place. It has a whole

942
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.199
life outside of this world that we
you know, we pick up little you

943
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.239
know, lips when we wake up, and those you know, we call

944
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.639
them dreams. But like, so
you know, our consciousness doesn't sleep,

945
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.119
it doesn't get tired. Just the
physical body sleeps and gets tired. So

946
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:22.079
whenever you do these things sometimes,
you know, the whole point of meditation

947
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:24.679
is mind awake, body asleep.
You're trying to put your body to sleep

948
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:29.199
and keep your mind awake. But
sometimes everything goes to sleep, but your

949
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:34.199
consciousness doesn't. And when you when
you kind of extract it from this physical

950
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.920
world, when you extract it from
this physical body which is focused into all

951
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:39.480
the time, when you take your
consciousness out of there, when you kind

952
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:43.239
of peel it away, and then
you pass out and you kind of lose

953
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:46.920
lucid control of it, it goes
and sometimes you don't know where it's going

954
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:51.679
to go and where it's going to
end up. So you know, that's

955
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:52.960
why I rarely just tell people,
oh, you should do this, because

956
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:57.679
I think it's something you build up
to, you know, but you know,

957
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.960
it's kind of like take yeah,
if you do DMT you don't know

958
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:02.880
where the hell you're gonna end up. It kind of has that effect sometimes

959
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:07.519
where it's funny you say that because
earlier we were talking about being boring in

960
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.800
different realities, and I was thinking, like, you know, if if

961
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.519
we are so curious about the spirit
world and we want to, you know,

962
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:17.639
we do things like d MT or
just psychedelics in general to try to

963
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.079
perceive the spirit world. I feel
like on the other side of the coin,

964
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:23.960
you know, if you're a spirit
doing d MT would be like,

965
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:30.000
hey, let's let's let's live life
as a human once, you know,

966
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:31.599
Like, I feel like this is
the d MT, Like I feel like

967
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:37.159
we are in the trip. I've
studied. I haven't done DMT yet.

968
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.719
I have one too, but I've
studied it. I've studied it a bunch.

969
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:44.000
And what I hear from people that
study it, like on the scientific

970
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:45.760
world, like they study it as
like a technology, and they say that

971
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:51.239
it is like a technology for us
to interface. Absolutely it's wild. And

972
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.599
they say things like whenever you meet
the beings in the DMT world, that

973
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:58.679
they are just as fascinated with you
as you are with them, Like they

974
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.880
see humans and they're like sometimes I'll
mess with you. Like they have a

975
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:06.599
trickstru mentality, but they they're interested, like they they get a kick out

976
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:08.239
of it. And I think it's
because they're they're in their land, they're

977
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.440
in their realm whatever, and they're
bored, probably, and all of a

978
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:14.000
sudden, this human just kicks the
door open and it's here, and they're

979
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.400
like I'm here, and they're like
all right, you know, you're a

980
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:20.840
cute little pet. And they're like, well, I'm gonna mess I'm gonna

981
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:22.920
mess with this dude first of all, because it's busted into my room,

982
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:25.599
so I'm gonna mess with him.
But then I'm gonna kind of be like

983
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:28.840
what are you about, dude?
Like where did you come from? Like

984
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:30.480
what? You know? So it's
it's weird, but you only get them.

985
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:32.679
It's like a glimpse, like you
don't get to beat there long,

986
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:37.960
you know. So you imagine being
imagine yeah, but imagine being like a

987
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.719
d MTL or something like that,
and you're existing in this astral realm and

988
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:44.960
this fucking human just comes in and
you're just like what And then you're like

989
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.760
messing with them and everything, and
then they just disappear because it wore off

990
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.000
or whatever, and then you know
what I mean. So it would be

991
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.199
like if an elf just popped up
in your room. Yeah, you're like,

992
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:55.760
you're doing here, Get out of
here. That's kind of what happens,

993
00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:59.800
Yeah, kind of what happens in
our world too. Things seem to

994
00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:05.400
just kind of pop in and pop
out, you know, so it us.

995
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:08.000
Yeah, but there's been a lot
of instances. You know, I've

996
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.760
heard people talking about when they have
like sleep sleep paralysis, and they'll see

997
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.679
like the beings at the foot of
the bed and that kind of stuff.

998
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:15.920
And a lot of times they'll be
asleep and they'll they'll be like beings of

999
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.840
the foot of the bed. And
when they wake up and the beings see

1000
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.639
that they're awake, the beings get
scared. They get kind of nervous.

1001
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:24.320
They're like, oh shit, they
saw us, and they'll like usually like

1002
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:29.880
rush into a closet or something and
disappear the weirdest freaking thing. And it

1003
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:34.159
makes you wonder. It's like it's
like we're all kind of just roaming around,

1004
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.079
searching and exploring, and every once
in a while, it doesn't matter

1005
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.360
what side of the you know,
if you're in the physical realm or then

1006
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.280
astural realm or what dimension you're in. Every once in a while, you

1007
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.760
open a door and you walk into
a place you shouldn't be, and you're

1008
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:45.559
like curious, but then you're like, Okay, we've got to get the

1009
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.400
hell out of here, you know
what I mean. So, yeah,

1010
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:53.119
it's just a bunch of spirits roaming
around the universe or whatever. You know.

1011
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:58.559
So I just like was in shock
for a second because I've had sleep

1012
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:04.880
paralysis probably hundreds of times, and
I never put together the fact that they

1013
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.679
do always go away at some point. Yeah, but like, but but

1014
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:12.800
you see them go I don't mean
it just stops. I mean, like

1015
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:15.519
a lot of times I see like
it's it's a lot of times in the

1016
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.719
forms of like a shadow on the
wall or something. Do you ever feel

1017
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.119
it like weighing you down on your
chest or anything like that. I felt

1018
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:27.079
that once I have, So that
type used to happen a lot more when

1019
01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:30.639
I was younger. That was like
when it first started happening for the first

1020
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:36.159
probably uh maybe three or four years, it was like a lot of those

1021
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:40.400
and it was like I was literally
stuck like way down because yeah, it

1022
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:45.519
was like there was this innumerable amount
of weight on top of me, and

1023
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:50.800
it didn't like hurt. It wasn't
like pressure, but I felt like it

1024
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:52.960
took so much effort to move anything
because there was like all this weight or

1025
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:57.119
whatever. But no, I just
never put together the fact that, like,

1026
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.480
oh, yeah, the shadows usually
do just like skirt away at the

1027
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:06.400
end. That's pretty crazy. I
also never really considered the fact that they

1028
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:14.519
were conscious entities. Yeah, but
I probably should have come to that conclusion

1029
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:16.760
by now. But hey, I
mean, what episode is this one hundred

1030
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:20.199
and something and I'm still one hundred
and twenty or something. Yeah, I

1031
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.280
don't know. No, But like
for real, Nick, Nick did have

1032
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.400
a sleep prolesses a lot as a
kid. And you know, we've been

1033
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.920
from Aisa to his house all the
time, oh all the time, because

1034
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.199
we lived half a mile away,
and we've known each other since we were

1035
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.599
eleven and twelve. So he's been
to my house more than you could imagine.

1036
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:36.440
And there would be many nights where
we're in my room on a Friday

1037
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:38.760
night or Saturday night, we're playing
video games or just like watching a movie

1038
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:43.599
and it's getting really late and I'd
be sitting up and he's asleep and I

1039
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:47.599
would look over and he would be
like he would just do the weirdest stuff,

1040
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.199
Like I could see that he was
having sleep proalyssis it happened all the

1041
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.639
time. Sometimes it'd be like you
sit up and your eyes are half open

1042
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:57.800
and you're like trying to reach your
arms out and you wake up and you're

1043
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:01.320
like, dude, I was like
having sleep proalysis. It was all.

1044
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:07.719
It's usually is like a precursor for
weird stuff, like weird paranormal stuff to

1045
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.800
happen for some reason. Like that's
like, I don't know, it's it's

1046
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:15.519
what it seems like a lot of
beings or entities use like they either put

1047
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:19.239
you in sleep prolysis and then do
whatever they're gonna do, or they just

1048
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:22.760
like wait for someone to be It's
like there their ticket into this world somehow.

1049
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:27.239
I don't know. It's weirdp Do
we lose Nick? We did.

1050
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.000
He just texted me hold on,
let me let me remove him and try

1051
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:34.079
to get him to rejoin. But
it's okay, hold on, uh oh

1052
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.000
sorry, listeners, we are having
difficulty behind the curtain and Nick Nick dropped.

1053
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:42.679
It's okay because we're gonna wrap up
soon. Anyway, we got to

1054
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.320
get him for the goodbye, and
yeah, man, this is normal when

1055
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:50.599
people will talk about paranormal type stuff
on podcasts and stuff, there's always technical

1056
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.119
glitches. This is our first time
with this type of thing. It happens

1057
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:57.719
a lot. It's weird. Yeah, dude, we'll see if we can

1058
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:00.760
get him back in. If not, it's it's no big deal. Yeah,

1059
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:02.760
So so Jordan, I guess uh. I think that's a good place

1060
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:05.639
to end it. Is there anything
I don't want to Just if you feel

1061
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:11.360
like you've got anything that is on
your mind, that's important. I always

1062
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:15.320
like to ask people like if this, if you had the whole world watching,

1063
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:16.960
if you had cameras on you,
if you had one thing to say,

1064
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:19.039
like, what would it be?
Man Like, what would be that

1065
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:24.480
thing that you feel like you just
gotta tell people? Oh cool, no

1066
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:29.679
pressure at all. I like that, just the whole world watching right now.

1067
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:31.039
Man. Like I you know,
through all the stuff that I've been

1068
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:36.599
through, the biggest takeaway from everything
has just been like, have fun with

1069
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:39.639
life. So, like I said
before, like I look at life as

1070
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:44.039
a video game, just because I
think that that is actually a pretty apt

1071
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.840
metaphor for what we're you know,
our existence. But also it makes things

1072
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:51.039
more fun when you when you don't
think of life as like this set in

1073
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:54.239
stone, black and white thing like, Okay, this is the way it

1074
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:56.519
is. I don't have any control
over anything. There's no free will,

1075
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.719
YadA YadA, like you know.
I hate that way of thinking because it

1076
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:00.920
just kind of it takes the fun
out of things. And you want to

1077
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.679
think that you live in this world
that yeah, good and bad things happen,

1078
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:05.719
but that you have control at the
end of the day, that you

1079
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:11.719
can affect your reality and you can
you know, you know, manipulate things,

1080
01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.440
for lack of better word, you
can you know, edit things.

1081
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:16.719
So, like one thing that I've
learned through you know, all the meditation

1082
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:21.199
stuff that I've done over the years, is that once you come up,

1083
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.079
when once you get this understanding,
I think this is so important. Once

1084
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.880
you understand this that so, say
you're playing a video game, say you're

1085
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.480
playing like Grand Theft Auto. I
use that as an example. Great game.

1086
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.199
Yeah, yeah, I'm older,
So that that's kind of my example

1087
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.559
of this. So when you're when
you're playing the little characters running around,

1088
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:40.320
he's he thinks he has free will, he's running around, he's playing,

1089
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:42.360
he has free will, he's autonomous, and he's doing all this stuff.

1090
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.400
But somebody created that game, and
somebody's on the outside and can make edits

1091
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.199
to that game. So what I've
learned is, well, we're in the

1092
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:50.920
game. We can't edit the game. We can just play the game.

1093
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:54.280
So life is a game. This
is a game. We're having fun,

1094
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:56.440
we're playing it, we're learning,
we're growing, we're doing all the things.

1095
01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:58.760
This is awesome, But if you
actually want to make edits to your

1096
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:00.960
game, you got to come out
out side of the game. And that's

1097
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.239
where the meditations come in. Is
you can actually zoom out, come on

1098
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:05.920
the outside of the game, make
some edits, and then go back in

1099
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:10.679
the game and continue playing. And
that's what manifestation essentially is. That's what

1100
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:15.320
patterning is. And the way,
the way I can sextualize patterning is your

1101
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:18.440
three D printing. So we live
in a three D world. Our brains

1102
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:21.599
are like the computer and it can
three D print something. So that's what

1103
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:25.920
manifestation is, is you're three D
printing with your intention, your focus.

1104
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:29.920
You're three D printing something. But
just like the old side scroller games,

1105
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:32.039
you know, like, so say
you're playing like the old Super Mario Brothers,

1106
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:36.440
right, and you know, so
you know you only see this much,

1107
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.840
right, you see this much of
the screen, but there's like a

1108
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:41.880
whole level, there's all these things
down here, but you can't see it

1109
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:44.840
because you have to wait until your
box gets there. Right. So that's

1110
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.119
how manifestation works, is you manifest
something and when you do it right,

1111
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:50.840
you three D printed it and you
put it on the timeline, so it

1112
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:54.239
exists. You just can't see it
yet because you have to wait for your

1113
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.480
box, like your character to get
to that point in the game, and

1114
01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.079
then you see it, you're like, hey, that's that thing that I

1115
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.119
manifested. So that's the way I
look at reality, is like we're constantly

1116
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:04.639
manifesting, constantly three D printing stuff, but you don't three D print it

1117
01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:06.760
right from your face. That's not
the way things work. That would cause

1118
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.920
too many ripples, and that's just
not the way it works. It's placed

1119
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.000
further down the row, further down
the timeline, and then you have to

1120
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:15.679
wait for your character to get to
it, and then you have to like

1121
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:21.480
that. It's a great visual and
it works that way, and that's from

1122
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:25.199
my experience, and when when you
look at life this way, as it's

1123
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.639
like this game that you're playing,
but you don't just only get to play

1124
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:30.800
the game. Sometimes you can actually
zoom out of the game, make edits,

1125
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.679
and then come back in. You
can also have a communication with the

1126
01:07:33.719 --> 01:07:35.880
people on the outside of the game, which would be your guys, your

1127
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:39.840
higher self, and you can work
in tandem as kind of like a team.

1128
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:43.079
Then it makes the game more fun
because you realize, Okay, I'm

1129
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:44.599
in a game. I get to
play, my character, get to have

1130
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:46.280
fun, but I also have people
on the outside that they're watching over me

1131
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:50.400
that are helping out. And I
also can have access to the tools to

1132
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:54.079
be able to edit the game as
well. So when you kind of think

1133
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:57.280
about everything that way, it opens
up all these possibilities, you know,

1134
01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.880
because you can relax and just play
the game, and you can also edit

1135
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.400
the game, you know, So
you really are the like director of the

1136
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.480
programmer and the main character of the
game. So I guess if I had

1137
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:09.840
to say something to the world,
it would be that because whether this is

1138
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:14.320
the way reality actually is or if
it's just a metaphor, either way,

1139
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:18.119
it works and it leads to,
I think, a more fun and fulfilling

1140
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:23.600
life because you know, there's no
victimhood here, there's no soul trap here,

1141
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:26.640
there's no you know, we're stuck
in this deep dark matrix kind of

1142
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:29.680
a thing. It's it's yes,
it's a matrix of source, and yes,

1143
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.239
it's a virtual reality of sorts and
all these things. But we're we're

1144
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:35.119
a big part of it. We're
an interactive part of it, and we're

1145
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:38.760
h and we're on all sides of
it. Were we're in the game,

1146
01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:42.760
we're outside the game, we're connected
to all the pieces, and you know,

1147
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:45.159
and we also came here under our
own choosing. You know, this

1148
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.359
isn't something we're you know, tricked
into or anything like that. So I

1149
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.600
think when you actually look at the
world through that lens, it makes it

1150
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.920
more fun. It opens up all
these possibilities and and it just makes it

1151
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:59.560
more interesting in my experience. I
like that. Man. It's like some

1152
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:01.880
some of the ancient societies are like, we're in hell. You know,

1153
01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:03.920
this is a soul trap. Some
of them are like, well, no,

1154
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:09.039
it's more like we're in a school. I agree with what you're saying.

1155
01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:11.119
It's like, that's the whole point
of the Philosopher's stone, right,

1156
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:14.640
It's like, through the power of
your mind and your will and understanding that

1157
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:18.119
you are a fractal piece of the
of the God's bark or whatever you want

1158
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.840
to call it, the godmind,
the light. It doesn't matter. The

1159
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:27.239
point is this can be heaven or
this can be hell. It's all dependent

1160
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:30.920
on your state of mind and how
you vibrate, how you choose to perceive

1161
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.319
it, you know, and I
completely agree with what you're saying, man,

1162
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:38.159
Like, just enjoy the ride,
be grateful, be positive, just

1163
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:43.520
understand that, like in the great
scheme and destiny of all souls, we

1164
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:47.439
all eventually make it to the light. Might take you know, a thousand

1165
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:50.640
lifetimes for some, might take a
million for some. It doesn't matter.

1166
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:55.359
We all get there in the end, the great cosmic end, you know.

1167
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:57.680
So like, yeah, I appreciate
that. Man, thank you.

1168
01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:01.720
Definitely got to have you back on
great episode. I'm so thankful you came

1169
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.880
on. Please, I don't think
we did this in the beginning. So

1170
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:09.920
everything that you have to plug,
the the the book, the website,

1171
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.920
the TikTok to YouTube, let's run
through them. Yeah, so on TikTok,

1172
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:18.560
I do daily videos every day and
they're awesome, thanks dude. So

1173
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.840
that's that's a good way just to
kind of get a peek into my my

1174
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:25.920
weird mind. That's a live in
kicking, and I have some clones out

1175
01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:29.079
there. There's some spam, you
know, channels that are kind of emulating

1176
01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:30.600
me. So if it's like a
live in kicking spilled a little bit wrong

1177
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.239
with an extra G or something,
stay away from those. So it's just

1178
01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.239
you know, actually it's actually I'm
a live in kicking. So anyways,

1179
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.399
if you go to my website,
it's Digijordan dot com, d I g

1180
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:45.439
I Jordan dot com that actually has
linked everything. That's the easiest way because

1181
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.680
I have like my book on there, my link to my podcast linked to

1182
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:50.880
you know, TikTok and all that
kind of stuff. So DIGI Jordan,

1183
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.520
d I g I Jordan dot com
and then you can see all the things

1184
01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:57.920
that I'm up to. I have
like a weekly newsletter that I send out

1185
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:01.560
and all sorts of fun stuff in
the book in the book Entrepreneurial Spirits and

1186
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:06.520
Neural Spirits as much. It's it's
hard to type because I've I wrote the

1187
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:10.560
damn book and I still don't know
how to spell entrepreneurial most of the hard

1188
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:13.319
word. Man, it's tough.
So just if you go to Amazon and

1189
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:15.520
type in Jordan Crowder, I'm the
only Jordan crowd on Amazon, so it'll

1190
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:17.960
pop right up. Okay. And
then, last, but not least,

1191
01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:24.159
there's something that you might be around
the corner, something you're working on the

1192
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:28.600
podcast. Yes, yes, yes, so something I've been kind of wanting

1193
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.920
to do and been you know,
kind of other people have been trying to

1194
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:32.960
get me to do for a long
time, and I'm finally doing it.

1195
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:36.239
So this is like this being here
with you right now is a huge kind

1196
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:40.119
of inspiration for me and a kick
in the butt in the right direction.

1197
01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:44.800
So yes, I do have a
podcast that is maybe by the time this

1198
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:47.119
show is actually on the air,
you know, there will already be some

1199
01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:51.199
episodes, so I'd be looking for
for that, and it will more than

1200
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:56.079
likely be based around the concept of
the book, which is Entrepreneurial Spirits,

1201
01:11:56.079 --> 01:12:00.640
which is kind of the business side
the business side of this ritual side and

1202
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.079
also the spiritual side of the business
side. You know what I mean.

1203
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:05.640
I like that, Yeah, I
like that. Awesome. Well dude,

1204
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:10.000
Okay, So We have a cheesy
tradition here. We just say bye guys

1205
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:13.159
at the same time. I think
it started probably very early on in the

1206
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.000
show, and one thing led to
another and we've just never stopped doing it.

1207
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:18.359
Through the countdown first, right yep. Usually yeah, but when we're

1208
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:21.279
when we have guests, yeah,
you're ready, three, two, one,

1209
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:29.720
Bye guy, guys. Weird things
happened in the backyard of Letsoe House.

1210
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:48.439
If you were hit, got it's
so weird coming closer to like smirreling

1211
01:12:48.560 --> 01:13:00.159
on the inside of it, going
out. Man, it's coming. I

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haven't dought Sord not being happy