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How you doing out there? It's
me Tiger, I am Duck Wing Duck.

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It's me Bunkers Deep Bobcat. All
right, y'all, didn't bree your

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favorite firefly you desire? Hold?
Oh no, God, my name is

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Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned in. Hello, No, everybody you welcome

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to this very special Cummings commentary here
on the tuned in with Jim Cummings Patreon

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channel. I am Dando, joined
right now by producer Chris. Are you

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doing so grey? How's everybody doing? Going fantastic? And of course he

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is none of them bonkers himself as
well as Lucky macl he is mister Jim

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Cummings. Jim, how are you
mate? Oh it's another Dan in paradise.

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Hooray everybody, Welcome, Welcome,
welcome, Come on down, Copper

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Squat. We're gonna have some fun. Copper squat. That's the time I've

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never heard before. Yeah, well
it means pull up a bean bag or

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something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to come to your place

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because you always say it's it's always
paradise. You must just have a great

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life. Jim, Oh well I
do. Actually, thank you, thank

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you, thanks for a notice of
me true true true. Well, today

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we are here to do a commentary
track. I'm very excited on the Bonkers

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episode New Partners on the Block.
Now we're gonna be watching this on Disney

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Plus. So if you listened to
this, get it up on your Disney

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Plus app or however you're watching it, and get ready to push play.

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As we push play, we'll give
you the three two one count. Then

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we'll do three to one go not
on one when I say go, And

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we're going to be talking about Yes, this very very famous episode of Bonkers,

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because the one that bridges the gap
gym between the Lucky era and the

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Miranda era. Because it's very confusing. I won't get into it again.

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We touched on on our Bonkers podcast, but basically there were episodes Miranda.

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They didn't like them, so they
did Lucky percal episodes, but they only

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add some of the Miranda episodes first, and then they add some of them

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after and it was just a big
Misspash, So, what are your memories

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initially of this episode do you have, like, what are they that when

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you've recorded it? Did you record
this knowing this would be the last time

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Lucky appeared on the show was that
the mentality going into it, you know,

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it was a bit of a mishmash. That's actually a pretty good word

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or two words. And because you
know, he Bonker's got started off on

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a pretty even keel. But we
got a little bit into it and they

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said, yah, something's missing,
something's you know, and so they started

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they decided, you know, we
have to get him a partner. See,

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because you know, Miranda is such
a sweetheart. You can't you know,

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he couldn't have friction with her,
you know, because you know she's

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a sweetheart, and Bonkers is also
a sweetheart. So you know, I

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couldn't have friction with Miranda because she
was set a pumpkin. And so anyway,

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now Lucky Pequel, oh, come
on, Bonkers. You know,

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he was a curmudgeon, so he
was someone that Bonkers could play off.

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So they came up with this character
and auditioned ten thousand people. I'm just

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getting probably about eight thousand and yeah. You know, I ended up getting

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that part too, and I had
to and I had like callback after call

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back for that, and I just
I figured, you know, while they

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already have me there, they might
as well use me or I think that's

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what they were thinking. And uh
so I got that part too, and

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then we kind of re floated the
franchise and uh, you know, Bonkers

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and Lucky were after the races.
Thank goodness they did, because I feel

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like you, being in control of
both of the characters, you were really

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able to establish a real unique chemistry
between them both. You went relying on

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somebody else to have that chemistry with
you. It's just, you know,

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I know what's going to work with
these two characters. I'm doing them both.

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I'm in complete control. How was
the feeling having that complete control over

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the two of the two main characters
of a series, because you never really

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experienced that before, had you before? Bonkers? Well more expansive cast where

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this is? You know, yeah, Buk Bunk is in Lucky. We're

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the main stars of this show.
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agree. You know, I liked
it. It was great because I always

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knew where I was going with the
next line because I had the line before,

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you know, and I don't know
if we touched on this, but

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they would often argue but Bucky but
you know, and they'd have a really

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strong ping pong of dialogue back and
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thing. And I told our director
Jenny McSwain, why don't I play Lucky

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Piquel in my head? And I
will respond, I will, I will

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do Bulgers first, and you know, and they have separate tracks, and

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I'll say, yeah, but Lucky, I just yeah, I know,

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but we can't. Yeah, I
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to get to that, you know. And then I would come in,

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you know, and I would have
balk Lucky's response in my head, and

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I would say, well, Bonkers, we can't no, because I said,

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because you're driving me nuts, you
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and forth, and then they would
put the two tracks together and it sounded

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like two people having an argument,
and it came out really well because two

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people were me and me, so, you know, it was kind of

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cool. What's your what's your line? You like to save it the split

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personality? Uh? Yes, and
so do we? Yes? That was

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yeah, all right, well so
it's only true. What do you before

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we get into it, Chris,
what are your memories of Bunkers? Did

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you ever watch it as a kid. I loved it as a kid.

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It was a very big show here
in Australia, and you mentioned Jim on

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a on a recent podcast A lot
of Australians when you'll heat we're talking about

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bunkers, you know, I can't
believe it. I already know this answer,

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Chris. Yeah, No, Bonkers. Bonkers was a show that I'm

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growing up, I didn't really watch. It was like, you know something

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maybe if it came on, you
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it definitely wasn't a show that I
like followed or anything like that. And

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I really like just doing the research
you know, for this episode was when

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really like the memory starts to pour
back, like I remember Lucky Pequel's voice,

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Like I remember that voice, and
like even when I was watching it,

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I had to really like listen to
hear for Jim's voice in Bonkers.

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To me, it's like one of
the most unique voices that you do because

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it's it's so far away from your
speaking voice. To me, it's like

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so so unique from your speaking voice
that it's hard for me to pick up

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that it's even you. But yeah, growing up, I didn't watch a

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lot of a lot of Bonkers,
but it's I've found it found it fascinating

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to rewatch you know, with Disney
Plus and everything like that. It's really

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cool to like rediscover, you know, with your voice. For Lucky,

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I get sort of Laurence Teeny vibes
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Oh okay, just like yeah yeah, he's always just like yeah, yeah,

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yeah, everything. Well, yeah, he's He's one of those guys

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that if you tagged on for Christ's
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it would probably fit. Yes,
all right, Bochers, wait a minute,

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I'll be right there. For Chris's
sake. You know that that was

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That was kind of like in my
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Cads, I'll take you over to
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was one of those and that that
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to say, there's a little Lucky
Pequella's got a little of my dad,

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Bob Cummings in him. Okay,
so you know, from a personal from

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a voice perspective or a personality perspective. Personality personality. Okay, Well you

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bunk as always your brother, Uh
No, I was definitely bunking. I

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bonked heavily as a child. All
right, Well, let's get into it,

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shall we. Let's get into chatting
about new Partners on the Block.

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So listeners right now, get it
up on your on your apps or your

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TVs whatever. So it's episode twenty
one here on Disney Plus. It's New

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Partners on the Block. Get ready
to push play. When I say three

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to one, I'll say go.
That's when you push play. All right,

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are we ready, gentlemen? Three
two one go? Okay, So

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here we are watching Bonkers for the
first time here on the Companies commentary is

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now this was this theme song was
incredibly incredibly high, you know, high

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energy, very wacky, one of
the more wacky ones of Disney Afternoon of

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You know, he's done done some
perusing on social media recently on your post

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of Bonkers, and it seems like
fans either really really loved Bonkers or they

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really just found him very annoying.
What are your what are your thoughts when

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you when they first pitched Bonkers to
you, Did they say to you,

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we want want him to be as
high energy as possible. Was that something

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that you brought to the character yourself. Well, it kind of came on

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the heels of Roger Rabbit, yeah, at that time, so they kind

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of wanted to capture that style of
energy. But he couldn't sound anything like

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him, which was no problem,
you know, so that that was not

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a that was not a problem.
But you know, it was it was

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painstaking the audition process for this show
for me, Uh, it was.

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It was crazy. I've never had
well, it was the most auditioned for

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role ever because it was very well
known at the time that it was inspired

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by Roger Rabbit, and so everybody
wanted a piece of that pie. Okay,

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you know, because it was ridiculously
you know, popular and successful,

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and they said, okay, let's
tap into this. What do we have

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to do? You know, well, I don't know, how about a

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bobcat perfect? You know, So
here we are. And so they sent

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out an auditioned I mean the audition
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maybe over a month. You know. Usually you go in once or

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twice, Okay, we got it. Nope, not this one. It

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everybody and their dog auditioned for Bonkers. And then of course Lucky came along

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in a little while later, and
you know, it was just crazy.

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Oh my screen keeps going dark,
so I don't know, here we go.

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Well, you mentioned in the in
the Bonkers podcast that we did that,

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Jim Carry auditioned for the role and
a few other famous people. Was

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that usually the case with Disney Afternoon
shows? Was it usually the case of

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having a celebrity audition, not celebrity, but you know he was a known

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person or was this the first time
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show. Hey, this isn't just
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people on Celebrity Carry. Yeah,
yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know,

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I mean Rita Moreno, And you
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on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I mean

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Carla Devido was on there, and
Ron Perlman, yet Frank WelCom, Nancy

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Cartwright appear there as well. Yeah. The Bonkers is actually incredible when you

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think about it. Oh yeah,
yeah it was. It was really quite

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something, And so it was it
was a lot of fun. Yeah.

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Well, this was the episode,
as we mentioned earlier, the one that

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bridged the gap between the Miranda and
the Lucky episodes. When you were doing

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the show, could you tell there
was a real difference between the chemistry with

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Miranda and Lucky. Look, it
was almost like a sense of relief when

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the Lucky character came around, because
when you were doing the Miranda one,

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could you sort of feel it's not
really working here for what this character needs

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to be Miranda writes, isn't really
the character that he needs to bounce off

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of. Were you feeling that when
you were doing those initial episodes. I

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don't feel that I did, no, because she, you know, I

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mean, Carla was such a sweetheart. Yeah, you know, she was

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great, and she was doing everything
great, She was doing everything perfectly,

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and she was very sympathetic to Bonkers. And I think the problem was that

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there really was no friction, you
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to have friction, you know,
in order to get anything. I mean,

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Romeo and Juliet they had there were
there were friction between those two families.

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You need an odd couple. Yeah, yeah, the whole bit,

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and uh yeah, any know,
there's nothing but examples of that, excuse

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me. And and so as a
result, you know, they kind of

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retooled, and Bob Taylor came in
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and took it in a whole new
direction. And he provided he provided Lucky,

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He wrote the character Lucky Piquel.
So that was all him was,

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Oh yeah, and uh. And
it was always kind of a thing where

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you know, he was the long
suffering. It was a bit if you

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think about it, it was a
bit like Laurel and Hardy if you're familiar

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with that, that that comic duel
from the twenties, I guess. And

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there was one big guy who always
looked at the camera and went like,

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do you believe what I have to
put up with? I mean, he

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didn't say that, but you felt
it, yes, And and sure enough,

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that's you know, Bonker's was what
Lucky had to put up with?

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Is that how Robert pitched the character
of Lucky to you? Is that kind

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of character? Is that? Is
that what he always had in mind for

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him? No, well they didn't
use that example, no, but they

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just you know, said that.
You know, here he is. He's

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a human and he's trying to get
ahead in the police department, and he's

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making progress. He thinks he's doing
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he gets stuck with a tune.
He wait a minute, wait, no,

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oh no, come on, you
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have this guy. He's going to
be in my squad car. You got

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oh, come on, why don't
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so that's that's kind of the situation
that we're looking at here, and you

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could see he's never really all that
pleased with he just reaches different levels of

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tolerance. Yeah. The thing is
with this show, I mean touched it

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with Dark Wing Duck as well.
There's lines throughout this where what was that

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was the tossest salad was the one
in Dark Wing Duck. With this one

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here, there was a couple of
lines we just passed one before where it

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says something on the lines of I
six fingers away from being pavement pudding.

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That's a pretty full online for a
kids show. You know, I'm going

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to be splinting on the ground.
I watched it. I went, I

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just don't think that's going to be
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But as a kid, yeah,
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But that's what I think the beauty
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jokes for the adults, for the
parents to sit there. That's why the

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Simpsons worked so well. The kids
love the animation, they love the wackiness

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of Bonkers, but there was jokes
there for the parents who were forced to

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sit there and watch the show with
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oh gosha, Yeah, there's no
question about it, you know. I

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I've used the example before. I
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h and there were two coyotes.
I think I played both of them,

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and uh, and it's just it's
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uh, the one guy says to
the other, well, I don't think

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that was mine. It must be
urine, and uh, and it snuck

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past, you know, you know, and I did it unto the guise

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of a hillbilly. You know,
we id tea. You would dead dad

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right there, you know, you
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it made it. And then after
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go back in and say it must
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said, did he say urine?
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Oh? My goodness, you know, of course he didn't sound like

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Bunkers, but but yeah, that
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I always wanted to bring up so
that the bad guy in this episode as

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well, he's essentially a terrorist.
Fire is it Fireball Frank It's name?

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that would happen anymore either, But
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I thought it was incredibly interesting that, like Brad Garrett, he's most known

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as being Ray's brother Robert Barone and
everybody does around. Everyone's going to remember

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him for that, but he's actually
more of a notable voice actor than that

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show, Like that was one role. Yeah, He's been in so many

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films and I don't think many people
actually quite understand, but his role here

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as Fireball Frank was great. He's
sort of you can get him Robert bron

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in Fireball Frank's frustration in this episode. But what are your memories of working

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with Brad because he actually got to
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I'm su whether you're in the same
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Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
yeah, So what are your memories of

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working with Brad? Well, you
know, he's a good buddy of mine.

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He in fact, there was oh
god, it's funny, yes that

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we you know, there were any
number of Disney cartoons coming out of the

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eighties for Boom Boom, Boom,
Boom boom, building up the Disney Disney

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Afternoon, and Brad would do a
pilot and during pilot season he wasn't all

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that available, and he went and
did this pilot, did like two or

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three episodes. Boom, big failure, didn't didn't go anywhere. Brad's back,

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you know then you know from on
camera, and then next year he'd

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do another one, go through another
pilot, season one or two, booked

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this one book that one, Eh, boom didn't work. Here's here's Brad

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again. He's back, and like
two or three years, four years,

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and finally Everybody Loves Raymond came out
and it clicked. Brad was God,

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good night, everybody. I'll see
a letter a out of here. You

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know. So I ended up actually
kind of replacing him. I was like

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Brad liked in one or two shows
because he was busy being famous, facially

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famous. At that point, I'm
visualizing, like you know, that Twins

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with Al Schwarzenegger and like Dane DevD
like, yeah, he's easily done,

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yeah, no question about it.
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great guy and it's so so talent. Oh he's a great game. Oh

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yeah, yeah, he's a buddy
of mine. Yeah, Okay, well,

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they getting on the show at some
point as well. Then, But

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this this episode here both commercial breaks. Thought it quite interesting, both commercial

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breaks. The first one they're sort
of saying that, you know, you're

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thinking that maybe Lucky exploded, right, So potential Lucky death in the first

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commercial break. The second commercial break
coming up soon we have Fireball Franks shooting

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the car of Bonkers and you meant
it as a view to go, oh

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my god, did Bonkers just die
as well? I wonder whether this one

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was marketed at the time. Obviously
I was too young to remember. I'm

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not sure whether you even knew either, as one of your favorites is going

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to be leaving the show, and
that's why they had Lucky and Bonkers both

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potentially die at the commercial breaks in
the episode. I wonder whether that was

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the case. It just seems like
it would make sense for that to be

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the reason, right, Yeah,
I guess so, except that would have

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ended the series. But Lucky did
leave the series though, so basically they

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could because Lucky. They went line
if they said that one of your favorites

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is leaving Bunkers, Lucky did leave
the Bunkers. Yeah, And I'll tell

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you what was weird about that is
we started the recording process with Miranda,

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yeah, you know, with Carla
DeVito, and she was great, she

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was wonderful. It is to this
day, of course, and they reconfigured

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it after as the show went on
to they kind of swapped it, yeah,

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which was I thought was interesting.
And you know, they got everybody

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in and well, Lucky was very
well received. You know, I was

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very pleased about that, you know, because I played him, and and

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and and they just you know,
they work their Disney magic to kind of

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weave one in and out of the
other so that they, you know,

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people, and I do think with
cartoons that there doesn't necessarily have to be

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continuity. I mean, the Simpsons
don't really have any I mean, it's

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Homer's doing something, you know,
Bart's doing something. You know, it's

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not like it's a serial show in
which this happened, so therefore this has

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to now next week, This will
next week this way, you know,

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it's not like that take the mickey
out of that on the Simpsons where they're

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at sort of like a comic contentel
And speaking of Simpsons, that's Nancy Kurt

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right, right, Nancy cart right, of course, yes, she plays

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our phone, dear. Yeah,
and also that was touch on Full Apart

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Rabbit, Full Apot Bunny. So
that's Frank. Well, Frank Welker,

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we've touched on the podcast before,
absolutely legend. But my memories of working

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with Frank on this show in particular, do you have any memories of working

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on Bunkers with Frank? Oh?
Yes, yeah, we uh we you

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know, he and I we worked
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neither one of us knows how many. But she I remember Genny McSwain,

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the Great Jenny. She she gave
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had to be running a game on
somebody. There had to be little con

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men or something. And and so
Bonker said one thing, and and and

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fall Apart came in and bump it
up, it up, and and it

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just we I can't recreate it,
but but it's just kind of yeah,

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it was kind of hysterical. He's
timing and my timing matched like a glove.

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And it was ridiculous. And you
know what, Markley's uncle, Hey,

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let's leave your family out of this, you know, And and and

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we went, you know, and
Frank and next thing, you know,

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and Genny goes, I don't know
what you just said, print it and

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so so and you know, so
it drove the animator's nuts because you know,

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you're not supposed to overlap, but
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of just epitomizes Bonkers though, right. It was that kind of vibe and

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that sort of chemistry that made the
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Yeah, his name was Bonker's not
you know, steady as you goes.

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Because of that, you were able
to sort of test out new theories

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and new sort of ways of voice
acting as a result, just try new

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methods. I mean, I know
it's dark when you could improvise and things

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like that, but Bonker's being so
wacky, like, for example, you

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mentioned your method before of the overlapping
of the voices. Do you think Bonkers

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was one of those shows that really
allowed you to expand on your work as

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a result of just the wackiness of
the show. I think so. Yeah.

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Well, it just gave a lot
of freedom, a lot of freedom.

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You know, it was a license
to steal. I might have mentioned

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this before, but readom Mareno the
great reader. Marina, she's like one

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of the I think she may be
the only person who's wanted Grammy and ask

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her and Emmy and you know,
the whole spectrum. And and she she

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would bring her daughter to the show
a few times. And she was sitting

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there and she was and she was
very sweet and doing this character. And

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she goes, oh my god,
this is like a license to steal.

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You can't I can't say anything wrong. I can't do anything wrong here.

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If it's too if, I mean, if it's over the top, it's

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not enough, you know. And
and we all laughed, you know,

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and here's rita moreno bah bah blah
b b b b up uh you know,

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west Side Story and on and on
and on, and she's going,

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this is great, and her daughter's
sitting in there going, you know,

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it was a lot of fun.
It was a lot of fun. What

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else are your favorite memories of being
in the studio for Bunkers? Did you

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have did you how often did you
have the whole cast sort of in there?

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Was it just usually you and Frank
together or was it did you usually

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have a group of people recording Bunkers? Can you remember, yeah, we

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we had a group of people that
absolutely, Yeah, you know, Sherry

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was there, Frank Walker, Ron
Pernel, Oh yeah, Ron was there

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and he just loved it. We
we that's why that's when we first met,

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and and Jeff Bennett. You know, I just you know, it's

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just crazy, and but we would
have a lot of fun because one person

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will say something and then we'd feed
off that and then we'd explore that,

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you know, just push it to
the limit, and then they had to

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edit, you know, so you
know, I just think it was just

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wonderful. You know. It was
like like reading Marino said, it was

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like a license to steal. You
could just go over the top. There

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was no such thing as too much. Yeah, I was got to touch

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them before you actually brought it up. I was going to say, the

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idea of doing a show where anything
you do can't be perceived is wrong must

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have just been so fun. Oh
god, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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you know, you know, more
is more. So This episode ed October

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fourth, ninety three, written by
Marion Wells, directed by of course Bob

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Taylor. So this one wasn't actually
the last episode featuring Lucky to air.

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This actually was. So what they
did was they ad they had nineteen Miranda

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episodes. They aired nine in early
ninety three, and then they returned with

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began with the official premiere with the
Lucky episodes, and then that first batch

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of Lucky episodes, there was still
twenty left, but they brought the remaining

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Miranda ones and that's what this episode. That's where this episode fitted in.

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So when you recorded this, you're
saying that you didn't record this knowing it

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was gonna be the last one.
Can you remember the last Balks episode that

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you did record? Like, can
you remember when the show was wrapping up?

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Gosh, gosh, not really,
you know, because I don't even

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think, you know, while we
were doing it. You know, we

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were just doing them, start piling
them, yeah, putting them in the

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can and not really counting, you
know. It was it was kind of

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like, because we had been derailed
then put back on the boards, you

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know that we recorded some shows that
did not make the cut, you know,

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so as a result, there were
you know, we just kept on

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going, kept on going, and
apparently and somewhere along the line we hit

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our magical number of sixty five and
we made it. Yes, So you

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know, it was interesting because all
those shows were recorded in a batch,

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weren't they, Yes, So there
was there never ever a case of all

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right, guys, this is it, this is the last one, make

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it, make it a good one. It was never that kind of mentality.

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It was always just recording in a
batch. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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yeah, just kept on going.
Now before earlier in the show we

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had we had Bonkers or do you
want to say something, Chris, Yeah,

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I was gonna say I just you
know, we're just talking. Do

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you remember there being a sixty five
episode limit on Disney shows back then?

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I think Bonkers was one of the
shows that fell under that, and they

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had like a pretty controversial rule where
they wouldn't let any series go past two

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or three seasons or cumulatively, except
sorry, sixty five episodes. Do you

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remember it? An you think about
that, Jim, do you remember that?

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But you know, talked about yeah, you know what the idea then

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was to cater to Disney Afternoon and
and the whole thing was the sixty five

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episodes would air, you know,
five days a week, and that filled

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up thirteen weeks, and so thirteen
weeks you know times, you know.

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In other words, they wanted to
get a whole year's worth and they would

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just hit the sixty fifth show and
boom, next week they'd start over so

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they'd start airing the same right from
the get go. They'd still air boom

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boom, boom, boom boom.
And that's where that came from. That's

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you know, they were trying to
fill up a year sixty five weeks at

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or not sixty five weeks, sixty
five episodes. So if the show did

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well, though, was there ever
a chance I would bring it back four

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more episodes? It was always just
case of sixty five and then were done.

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What was the reason they didn't expand
on SEB shows? Well, well,

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you know, we couldn't figure that
out. You know, I could

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not figure that out. The only
show that I know they did that with

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was Dark Wing. You know,
they because we did sixty five Dark Wings

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00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.519
and they go, wow, these
are really pretty good, and they Disney

409
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and ABC TV were not the same
company at that time, and ABC said,

410
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.200
listen, can we get more of
these? You know, because they

411
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:32.839
were on Saturday morning on ABC and
five days a week on you know,

412
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Disney Channel or or in syndication like
in Los Angeles it was Channel nine,

413
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:45.000
and so they just kept going.
They said, oh wow, okay,

414
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.640
yeah, NBC or ABC wants more. Well okay, And I think We

415
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.920
ended up doing a like close to
one hundred, maybe over one hundred dark

416
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:59.920
Wing docks. So there were exceptions, yes, there were before we before

417
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.000
we expand here I just want to
touch on, so this is sort of

418
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:06.559
the end. Here I'm looking at
and we've got your Lucky's wife and daughter

419
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.079
here. The memories of those characters
as well, Oh they're very sweet.

420
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:18.079
There's there's Sherry, and you know, it was just it was kind of

421
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.480
bittersweet. It was very sweet,
you know, you know, you got

422
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:25.559
to see him as a family man, and it kind of and it enhanced

423
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.640
Yeah, I was going to say
it outlined the fact that he was the

424
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.839
human and Barker's was the tune.
Yes, and you know, ne'er the

425
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:41.559
Twain shall meet except in cartoons.
So it was interesting that some of the

426
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.599
characters had to hit a ride to
Washington with Luckiness episode because they weren't in

427
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.000
the Miranda episodes, because the Miranda
episodes were made before these ones. So

428
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.119
they're like, hey, fall apart, Rabbit, and hey, everybody else,

429
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.640
mind going to Washington because you ain't
gonna be around anymore in these Miranda

430
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:00.799
episodes. So everyone's sort of like, yeah, yeah, it was a

431
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.039
little disjointed for me when I when
I saw the way it was put together,

432
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.920
But it all came out in the
wash, it did. Yeah,

433
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.079
all to ask you did so when
you had these episodes and when these shows

434
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.880
were airing, had you finished recording
the sixty five before it had started airing

435
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.599
or were you still recording them as
it went as it was airing. I

436
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.920
think we still had a few to
go, so few to go? Ok,

437
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.960
yeah, yeah, I believe so. Yeah. I think they always

438
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.599
were like that, and it was
always a thrill because I was literally in

439
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:33.680
every series of Disney Afternoon and you
know, because we do like forty or

440
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.759
fifty or whatever, and then boom
it would premiere, and you know,

441
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.799
the remaining episodes were just a blast. Yeah, oh here we go.

442
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.920
Here, here's our crowder Kracker.
Yeah, Carlo Cabdo. Look at that

443
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.920
beautiful voice actors there and the cast. You just freeze fame on that cast

444
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.960
and you just think, wow,
we all one show. It is incredible.

445
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.960
But yeah, that was the end
of our Lucky on On Bonkers.

446
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.519
So there you go, all right
this as well before we we wrap up

447
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.279
today. Of course, we did
promise the people that Lucky and bonkers would

448
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:04.519
be paying us a visit. We
want to get their thoughts on this final

449
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.400
episode of Lucky. So do you
know if they're around it all? Jim

450
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.519
Oh, for crying out loud?
What do you want now? I'm trying

451
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:18.319
to relax in my retirement and you
guys keep pulling me back. What do

452
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.200
you want? Come on? Make
it quick? Wait? What time is

453
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.480
it? You know what? I
got a golf I got a tea time?

454
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.440
And I'm sorry, what did you
want? I don't know, Lucky.

455
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.640
You have to excuse me or you
won't, because either way, you

456
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.559
know what, I gotta go to
the bathroom. I'll be right back,

457
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:41.359
Lucky. Uh so yeah, okay, keep themselves busy then, yeah,

458
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.319
yeah, yeah, they're still very
busy obviously, are they? Are they

459
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.640
fun characters to revisit? Oh goshya, yeah. I mean you know,

460
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.640
I had a ball doing them.
I had a ball. And you know,

461
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:57.079
Chris and I just watched the episode. Uh, I don't know,

462
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.079
an hour ago or whatever it was. It was so nostalk for me.

463
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:06.799
It was very nostalgic. It was, you know, it was kind of

464
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.680
like revisiting old friends, like going
over to an old buddy's house that you

465
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.559
haven't seen since high school, and
you know, you're sitting on the porch

466
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:21.680
and having a lemonade, and it
was great. You know, I'm very,

467
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:27.640
very fond of all the characters that
I've kind of voiced and given life

468
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.880
to, and it's it's just a
blessing. It really is. The beauty

469
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.200
of these two. It's kind of
like the dynamic of Pooh and Tiger when

470
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.160
you do two characters on the show. If someone says, do the Pooh

471
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.960
voice, you can sort of break
into Tigers one, have a bit of

472
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.960
a conversation with yourself as opposed to
just oh yeah yeah, as opposed to

473
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.079
just having to do the one voice. If someone says, du bonkers,

474
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:46.960
you're just naturally bust out lucky as
well, and have that little conversation.

475
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.039
I think must be such a delight, you know. Oh yeah, well,

476
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.640
there's no question about it. After
all. Don't forget I'm very cute.

477
00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:00.559
I'm just kidding. No, Bulkers
for crying out. Listen, I

478
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.039
gotta go, uh, y'all leave
you to bonkers t l K. Here

479
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.640
we go anyway. Yeah, yes, well, Chris, there's anything else

480
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.079
you want to touch on with Bunkers
before we have before you bat now,

481
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.559
we did an episode recently, but
look, anything else you want to ask

482
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.839
Jim, Yeah, no, just
about this episode. I just thought i'd

483
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:23.160
add a little fun fact. And
it has not aired on television since nineteen

484
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.400
ninety five. It was pulled from
syndication in nineteen ninety five because of the

485
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.119
Oklahoma hom acidic bombings, and it
has not been seen by anybody, by

486
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:35.960
any public until it came back on
Disney Plus and they re released it.

487
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:39.240
So this is one of like the
rarest episodes of Bonkers that we just watched.

488
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:44.519
And I think that's fascinating that that's
what from nineteen ninety five until when

489
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.440
did Disney Plus come out just a
couple of years ago? Yeah, just

490
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.400
three or four years ago now,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

491
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.839
so it's been over twenty years.
In this episode, along with a couple

492
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:58.279
others, there was a couple just
be cause like how you mentioned Brendan earlier

493
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.279
in the episode, just because of
the theme of you know, like a

494
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:05.839
terrorist plot essentially, you know,
it was a little too sensitive for the

495
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.199
times and just whatever in ninety three
at kids show terrorist too close to Home?

496
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.800
Yeah yeah, so really, I
mean, how many times in two

497
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.440
years. Did this episode really air? You know, probably not that many,

498
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:22.280
and you're raised, that's that's a
good observation. Yeah. I felt

499
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.280
like bunk Is just in general just
had disappeared for a good while, didn't

500
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.280
it. It sure did. Yeah. It was one of those shows that

501
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.480
we always say. It was like, did I imagine that show? Because

502
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.320
as a kid of the nineties,
I always remembered the theme song. I

503
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.559
was like, that show had to
exist. But I'm like, am I

504
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.599
just confusing it for like a scene
in Roger Rabbit? Like did it actually?

505
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:44.119
Was it real? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, well it was?

506
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.599
And then again not quaite. It's
interesting. I've been doing some research on

507
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.039
bunk isn't He had his own mascot
at Disneyland for a while, and you

508
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.880
had a whole range of merchandis,
and you had like the action figures and

509
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.599
the cars at Burger King and all
that kind of stuff, So it was

510
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.920
heavily market Yes, exactly, Ray, Yeah, Burger King is one of

511
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.960
my proudest accomplishments. Thank you,
Thank you for bringing that up. What

512
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:13.400
would be Donald's, I don't know
what would be Bunker's burger of choice from

513
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.599
Burger King? Do you reckon the
one closest. I like this one,

514
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.559
the one with the cheese and the
burger and the King thank you, or

515
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:28.760
the mac oh you know or the
mac King. No, anyway, you

516
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.159
know, I'm like Kik taking fried
chicken too. What did he say in

517
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.360
this episode? He said this was
his favorite meal food? Yes, yeah,

518
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.280
yeah, there was actually a good
gag I liked as well. It

519
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.440
was I think it was fall Apart
that said. It was something like he

520
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.559
was reading through the cans and the
last ones like refrigerate after opening or something

521
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.280
that was the last clue, and
I was like, that was really good

522
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.920
stuff. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the great Frank

523
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.719
Welker, the one of a kind. Yeah, and you know, we

524
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.159
don't hear much for Frank anymore,
but man, we need to get this

525
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.639
man on because he is he is
Mount Rushmore. Oh, he's amazing.

526
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.280
Could not be a nicer guy.
He's a mile and a half away as

527
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.960
we speak. Or just open your
window, yelly out, tell them to

528
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.719
come over. Give me. Yeah, yeah, okay, let's do that.

529
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.119
You know, you know I will
try. I told you that before.

530
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.199
Yes, I think there should be
a big public cray. Yes,

531
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.199
Frank, we need to get you. We need to celebrate you, mate,

532
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.800
because you are an absolute jam.
But guys, thank you for listening

533
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.719
to this show. If you enjoyed
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534
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.800
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535
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.719
So you guys are absolute legends and
were bringing you more episodes of comings

536
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.440
commentaries in the next few months,
going back and revisiting the old Disney animated

537
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.840
cartoons. Oh, here we go, Jim's holding up a Bonker's plush.

538
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.400
Now that's gonna be worth something right
now? Is that that's the Yes?

539
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.440
There he is. Hello, everybody, come I down. You're the nuts

540
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.280
contestant. Oh no, wait,
never mind, No you're not. Anyway,

541
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:59.079
It's really nice to see you.
Okay, it's actually I can envision

542
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.519
Bonkers hosting his own game show.
I feel like that would work. I

543
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.360
can't. I do too, I
mean I do too. There we go.

544
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:09.599
That would definitely work. It would
definitely work. We need to make

545
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.000
that happen. Yeah, we need
bo would come on that way. We

546
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:15.480
need to come back. But yeah, you guys, you do want to

547
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.119
send us a messages to Jim Cummings
Podcast at gmail dot com but yes,

548
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.280
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549
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.639
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550
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.800
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551
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.400
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552
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.519
Chris for his Comings commentaries. Good
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553
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.039
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554
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