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Hudson River Radio dot com. This
is Travis Walton and you are listening to

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UFO Headquarters, Putiful Headquarters and good
evening everybody, far and wine. You're

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in close wherever you may be on
planet armand or elsewhere. This is Michael

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Wharton UFO Headquarters with of course Linda's
everman Linda, good evening, Good evening,

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and I always love your induction.
Well we I'm very excited about tonight's

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show. When you told me who
our guest was gonna be, I just

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was blown away because I like,
he's just great listening to him talk,

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and just a preface for our listeners, We're gonna be talking a little bit

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about the Pine Bush Ufo and Paranormal
Museum, which now my children, my

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two oldest ones especially think I'm a
relic and deserve to be in a museum.

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And people would be thrilled to know
that I am part of a museum

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exhibit some of our work. So
my kids were correct, I belong in

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the museum. But we do have
a great show. We're gonna talk about

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that in the upcoming Pine Bush UFO
fare. So I don't want to take

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up any time because we've got so
much to cover today. Absolutely, So

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Lance Hallowell of the Pine Bush UFO
and Paranormal Museum, please step up to

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the mic. Are you there,
I'm here? Was that intro for me?

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You are Lance Hallowell? Well,
no, I mean just the fact

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that he said he was excited.
Yes, yes, all right, okay,

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yes, I had no idea.
So well, you have done an

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amazing job. Anyone who has been
to the museum and come to the fair,

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the creativity and the exhibits, it's
uh and the museum is doing well

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I understand recently particularly yesh, Yeah, you know, it's been one of

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these things. The word has gotten
out quite a bit. The people that

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are coming to it are coming from
farther and farther away, so that's been

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really interesting. Yeah. And just
I think when we spoke last that you

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could only book a guided tour and
that has changed. Yeah. Actually,

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yeah, while back, we basically
put in a self guided tour to make

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it more available for people because there's
a lot of time schedules and sometimes the

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full hour and a half or whatever
didn't really kind of work for everybody.

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You'd be amazed at how many people
are coming in. They they'll have weddings.

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I'm just like, we want to
see it. We got like a

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half hour, you know, and
then they'll you know, they want to

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you know, go through and say, okay, well that is um it's

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actually the self guided the self guided
version is actually about of forty five to

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fifty minute experience. Um. And
it allows you to go at your own

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pace and such so to audio.
Excuse me, they listened to audio when

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there's video to go with the exhibits
then yeah, yeah. So so basically

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there's um, you know, there's
pre automated buttons that allow you to start

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the videos on your own, um, as opposed to having me blather at

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you. So but people pay to
have you blather at them, so you

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know that's a good thing. Well
all right, that's the thing. That's

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the thing with the you know,
the exclusive guided tours, it's there's so

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much information. I mean, since
we've opened, I've always said the tour

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should be about five or six hours
because the amount of time, you know,

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the amount of material that is you
know, just have been that has

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been collected about the pine bush on
Hudson Valley. But um, but yeah,

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no, it's just a way to
need like the gone with the wind

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version. So we try and uh
shrunk had it, you know, as

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best we can, and we get
a lot of information in there. Excellent,

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so uh what we can come We
will definitely come back to the museum.

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But as we are recording this,
we are a few weeks away from

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the UFO fare on June third,
and can you tell us a little bit

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about that. So, yeah,
we're gearing up for the for the fair.

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Everything's so far going very smooth.
Everyone's looking forward to it. There's

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a new section being added to the
event area that's where you know, that's

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being provided for where the speakers are
going to be speaking during the day.

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There's a SkyWatch that is happening the
night before and the Alice Court Park area.

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I didn't know about this SkyWatch and
Alice Court Park that's that's in pine

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Bush. Yes, yeah, there
will be. There'll be directions to the

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park that's off of Alice Court on
the Pine Bush Museum dot com website.

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Okay, great, Yeah, that's
a wonderful idea because I think the number

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one question Mike and I, you
and I are always asked, where can

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I go to try to see a
UFO, Right, Yeah, so definitely

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people always ask that question. Sure, they want to experience it on their

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own, so that's a great addition. So that will be the night before,

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so that would be the night of
June second. Then yes, yeah,

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it's going to be June second round
around eight o'clock. It was a

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kind of a timing thing to you
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do it when it you know,
when it gets darker. Yeah, that

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helps, but but not always in
Pine Bush. Lots of things during the

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day. Yeah. The other thing
note is the United Friends Observer Society and

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Support Group. They're the ones that
are's hosting it. So Bill and Sue

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Yan will be there and they'll be
kind of, you know, the hosts

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of the evening. And the thing
that's interesting about it is we're also having

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we're having like it's kind of like
a community night where there's going to be

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a stage a microphone set up,
so basically people can go up and share

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their experiences. So I have to
say that's been one of the most interesting

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things since when I had opened a
museum. You know, it's been a

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safe place for people to talk about
things that they had seen and experienced,

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and you know, this is going
to be kind of an extension of that

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where you know, people should you
know, everyone who's out there is there

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because they want to you know,
you look for UFOs. So they're very

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comfortable in which to talk about it
and hopefully everyone will share their experiences with

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the crowd. That that's a wonderful
idea and I think that something maybe you

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can do not on fair days.
Have have you considered doing this a couple

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of times a year? Yeah?
Actually that was kind of um, that

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was kind of you know, kind
of hopes with it. We figured it'd

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be like a great summertime thing to
do, you know, um so,

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but it just seemed like a natural
kickoff, you know, to do it

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the friday before you know, the
fair to kind of uh, you know,

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get that started and then you see
where it goes from there. But

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yeah, I'd like to schedule a
few more for provided the weather holds out.

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Yeah, there's that in this rainy, rainy spring we're having so great.

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So then the fair itself is that
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those hours? Correct? Yes?
Yeah, ten to four. And we

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are also starting the i'mber UFO Speaker
Conference a little earlier than we had in

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previous years, so it's gonna be
much closer towards the end of the fair,

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okay, So that's in the evening
I believe, around five pm.

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Okay, before we get to the
speaker conference. Now, there will be

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speakers such as myself plug Plug will
be that will be talking during the day

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and that is free during the day
during the right the UFO fair. And

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you said that will be right by
the museum there, Yes, there's an

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event lot that is right next to
the museum. And announced the time for

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you to announce to me what time
you want to talk, because I have

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to finish the poster. I think
eleven am is a nice time. So

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you've heard it here first eleven am, June third. I will be talking

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about the best cases, some of
the best evidence from the Hudson Valley UFOs.

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All right, now I can finish
my poster here and you could you

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share with us some of the other
speakers. Um, well, right now

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I can share that Martin Snow and
Bob Sparing of move On will be there

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great and also author Tom Quackenbush.
We'll be speaking as well. Okay,

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okay, So then we have the
evening about five o'clock where it does the

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actual speaker conference, which you do
have to buy tickets for. Um.

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Where does that speaker conference take place. That's going to be in the community

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center next to the town hall,
Okay, where it was last year.

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Um. And what's very interesting is
this is first year that we've had like

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a specific theme and it is basically
looking into the into abductions. So I

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think the poster said chronicles of Abductions. Um, if I remember correctly,

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it sounded good at the time.
Um. But but yeah, so Kathleen

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Martin, uh, Nisa Betting,
Berney Hill, Travis is making his way

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back to us, Travis Walton,
Tom Reid will be there as well the

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Berkshire UFO incident and uh and Bill
Wyant will also be hosting, you know,

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as he is a counselor for abductees. That seemed absolutely perfect for him

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to kind of get everybody prepared for
the information they're going to hear. And

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uh yeah, lead us into the
evening, right. UM. I have

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a few things I want to mention
about these Pacific speakers, but I think

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we'd better take our first break,
our second break, or what are we

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at, Brian first breaks? Okay, I'm so into this, all right,

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so let's take our first break and
we will be right back. Hudson

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all LC blasting the competition in New
York's Hudson Valley. And we are here

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on UFO headquarters speaking with Lant Hollowell
about the Pine Bush UFO Fair as well

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as the Pine Bush UFO and Paranormal
Museum. And I just wanted to mention

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Lanson, Linda. I'm on quite
a few different paranormal groups on Facebook,

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and often the subject of UFOs crosses
over into ghosts and cryptids and things like

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that. And I am surprised by
the number of people who aren't from the

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area and many people from overseas in
the UK who've heard about Pine Bush.

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And when I mentioned you know,
if you're ever in New York, you

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want to go to this place called
the Pine Bush UFO and ParaNorman Museum.

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Oh, I've heard about Pine Bush. There's a lot of you and they'll

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talk about it like they've so people
are really aware of what's going on.

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They might not know the museum is
there at the moment, but they have

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heard about Pine Bush, whether they've
seen it on television, they've read about

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it. So I'm always fascinated when
I when I see Pine Bush pop up

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on a group of people that are
mostly in the UK, it's to me,

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it's a great thing that that information
has gotten out there, Right,

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I think, Lance, you need
a marketing campaign for the UK. Now,

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yeah, well I'm still working on
the US. But okay, okay,

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you don't want to start getting airfare
and admission packages. If you want

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to send me over, I'll go
on a promotional tour over there. I

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mean I would have to throw myself
on the sword to do it. But

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you know, well, actually the
there was a little bit of irony was

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there was a there's a marketing company
that had come to me and he works

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with the Lego Land and he was
gonna be bringing in some people from Iceland

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and so it actually I was like, oh my god, do I have

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to go through all the videos and
put like some titles in now and stuff

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like I'm just like, you know, there's there's I was like, that

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was the first thing I was afraid
of it, Like that's going to add

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a whole new component. Now they
speak they speak good English. There so

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we're okay, yeah, okay,
all right, yeah, just in general,

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it's been something it's been a topic
that's been approached, so okay.

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So I do have a few things
just to mention for people who may not

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be familiar with the speakers at the
conference or But first we don't want to

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forget that Brian Hudson River Radio will
be doing the audio this year. If

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you'd like to mention your the Hudson
River Radio's presence there at the fair.

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You're throwing it to me now,
I'm yeah, it's in your core.

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We'll be there. We'll be there
the gazebo next to the museum, if

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I have that right, Lance,
Yes, we'll be doing yeah, well,

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we'll have the pick up there,
we'll be set up doing the audio.

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We'll have some giveaways. We have
some UFO headquarters giveaways, travel mugs,

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bottle openers, that kind of stuff, and you know, stuff from

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our other shows, Rock and Roll
History Show, Linda and I do Murder

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in the Hudson Valley. Hopefully we
can pick up some new fans there,

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so we'll definitely be there. I
don't know if I'm going to be able

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to swing a costume this year.
With running all the audio stuff, it

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kind of gets in the way the
alien arms and everything. So I may

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have to suck it up this year, but we'll see. Don't want the

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alien arms getting caught in the equipment
eight when that happened, all right.

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So yeah, So some of the
other Hudson River radio hosts will be there,

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so yep, Gale Nucom is going
to be there from Paranormally yours.

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I know, Barbara Ville will be
there from Shaving Cream. Others are up

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in the air. We're still working
on scheduling, but at least definitely,

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you know, listen to this a
show or any of our other shows,

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you might actually get to see the
people behind the microphones, which, for

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better or for worse, sometimes we
can play is it a customer? Is

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it not? There? You go? All right? So um, just

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too quick go over that list again. You mentioned for the speaker conference.

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M Kathy Martin, Yes, you
know, obviously the niece of Betty and

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Barney Hill. She has been studying
and cataloging abduction cases for many years and

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I just saw this thing that she
has has investigated over five thousand cases of

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abduction. So not only does she
have personal experience of course, but boy,

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she's been there, done that,
speaking to people, and you know,

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I think she had a big project
from Mouf on gathering data. So

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you know, with any of these
things in this field, Mike, it's

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important to get the information down to
to study it. Yeah, and if

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you can. I mean, we've
had Kathleen on the show here, and

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she's just a wealth of knowledge,
not just about you know her her aunt

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and uncle were Betty and Barney Hill, so she has a wealth and knowledge

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about that whole abduction story. I
mean, I've read her book. It's

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fascinating, but you know, just
to hear all the other research she's done.

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She's not just known for her Betty
and Barney Hill work. She's done

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so much more as well as you
know Travis Walton. I mean, you

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know if he did our intro that
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plug. I mean every time I
hear I'm like yeah, but yeah,

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I think it's important the more people
that they can listen to that have done

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research, because everybody brings something different
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one person doesn't have all the answers. One person isn't going to solve the

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big mysteries here. It's it's a
combined effort and everybody grows off of one

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another. You know. Yeah,
we can't look at it as a competition.

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It's you know, we're all looking
for the same answers to the really

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big questions out there right right now, Lance, Kathy and Travis and Tom

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and Bill, they will be available, Will they have tables during the day,

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Will peopably able to come to speak
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Tom is doing. Um, but
Kathleen and Travis will be outside, um

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to speak to people, okay during
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things, Yeah, yes, absolutely, Um, So I have to I

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have to check with Tom. I
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wherever he wishes at the museum,
soay. But but yeah, it's just

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that he had he hadn't mentioned exactly
where he wanted to land, so land,

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okay. Yeah. And with Tom
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no we should have him on the
show, Mike um. He uh is

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famous or the Berkshire Sheffield, Massachusetts
abduction and it was actually quite a widespread

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UFO event, many many witnesses and
there is an actual official monument park.

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I have been to it. You
cross a little covered bridge and there's a

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plaque and the the UFO event from
September first, nineteen sixty nine has been

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officially inducted into the Great Barrington Historical
Society as I this is the the wording

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in this document, the first off
world UFO case in US history, though

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a historical society has recognized it,
as had the governor. In twoy fifteen,

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there was a Governor's citation in recognition
of this off again off I love

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this off world event. Governor Charles
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the document is that this event was
factually upheld and deemed historically significant. So

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that's that's something. For that kind
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much from the government or historical societies, let alone both on the same incident.

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So that says a lot here.
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if you're like me and look for
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you can go check out this monument
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a beautiful area anyway, so m
yeah. And then Bill Wyant, who

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has been running the Pine Bush Support
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so um yeah, So Lance,
you've really put together quite the quite the

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list of speakers here, and it
kind of just all fell together, you

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know, the way that it had
worked out. Um, I would like

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to insert one thing on the with
Tom Reid, we had to change our

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tour because of the unsolved Mysteries that
this incident was showcased in. Because we

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would get we would always get up
to the part where we discussed how his

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grandmother was put in the long excuse
me and the wrong seat in the car,

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and everybody recognized this story from onsal
mystery. So um so yeah,

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So we ended up carry law in
our in house sculptor ended up sculpting the

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alien that was witnessed by the family, and we had just we just kind

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of replaced the So was unsolved.
It was unsolved mysteries not happy you you

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were using their material. Oh no, no, no, no, oh

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no, we were just in we
were presenting this, you know, And

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it was just like kind of everybody
had heard about it because everybody saw the

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episodes. That was kind of funny. It was just kind of nod like,

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oh yeah, we heard about that, man, so you wanted to

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have something that was different. Yeah, so yeah, no one had really

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I don't know if they showed an
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we put a sculpture of that.
Yeah, which is great. I love

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that. I love that. So
just to mention a few other things going

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on at the fair that day.
You don't have to be completely serious about

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the UFO, you know, because
I know amongst families, amongst the couples,

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like you know, one spouse might
be really into the topic and the

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other one thinks it's garbage. So
you can still both come because there's enough

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going on during the day whether you're
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Correct, Yes, I mean there
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demographics that are you know, it's
available for you know, there's something for

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everybody there. That's the whole idea
of the fair, and kids as well,

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so certainly bring britting your kids.
There's going to be live music all

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day, correct, all day,
all different locations. We're gonna have signs

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to where the bands are playing and
such, so there's going to be you

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know, if you want to see
blue Blue Alienistic this way, I'm going

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to see Brendel's jazz, then that's
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it'll all be laid out very soon. For everybody to see where they're going.

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And what about this intriguing galactic game
show. Yes, there will be,

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you know, a UFO game show, and that will be you know,

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be able to win prizes there.
Um. So I think this year

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we have a tesla. I'm kidding, you know, no, to just

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be some fun prizes for anybody that
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of course the best in galaxy and
beauty pageant. Um. Well, we

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need to pause right there because this
is your chance to uh Mike to uh

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hold on display your laurels. I
am too bad. People can't see what

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we're doing. I'm puffing up my
shirt here. And but I am a

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I am a former first place winner
and the best in the galaxy. Not

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me as a model, me as
a makeup artist. And I was very

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happy to do that. Um,
I do have commitments on the day this

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year, Otherwise I probably would have
done it again. Oh I you know,

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I had this idea for Mike to
do and we'll keep that a secret

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in case next year, next year, next year, Okay, okay,

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but yeah, I mean some people
do amazing if you're a special effects makeup

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artist or you're just a kid,
who wants to put on an alien costume.

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All are welcome, correct clients,
absolutely, yes, indeed. Yeah,

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so all right, anything else you
want to mention about the fair day

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itself? Yes, I was just
kidding. We really do not have a

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tesla to give away. Yeah,
no, it's uh. We are trying

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to extend things throughout the weekend and
so currently the plan is, you know,

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so we have the SkyWatch that Friday
of the second, of course,

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the fair June third, during the
day, the evening is the pine Bush

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UFO Speaker conference, and the Sunday
the fourth, actually we're looking to kick

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off our new program, which is
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and we'll be taking pre bookings for
them. Okay, so this is UM

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as as Mike and I know,
pine Bush is not only filled with UFOs,

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extremely haunted. Yes, so people
will be taken through the streets of

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that doesn't sound like taken through the
street. You will be walking through the

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street, will be we will be
gently and carefully promenading down the okay,

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telling stories of the hauntings there right. Yes, So what's very interesting is

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UM the fact that it is really
it's really getting the downtown businesses involved because

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you know, this idea was started
with you through the inception of your work,

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UM and UH in pushing through it
a little bit further, we started

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talking to some of the people that, um, you hadn't met with,

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and we were surprised to learn some
of the you know, some of the

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businesses that we were just happy to
be talking to about this actually had experiences

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that they've been sharing with us UM
and so their information and their experiences are

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going on the tour. So yeah, that's great. Yeah, pine Bush

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is just a place of mystery and
wonder inside and out. I have to

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admit, you know, when we're
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mean I knew pine Bush was already
on the map, but actually it was

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dan Ackroid on a Joe Rogan interview
that actually, you know, I was

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you know, I was listening to
it, you know, with interest and

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everything, and then he just dropped
pine Bush. I was like, no,

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way, Like it's on It's on
dan Ak Grad's radar. So I

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thought that was pretty cool. And
Mike, would you like to, um,

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you know, speak up about our
involvement with the danna give us another

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Yeah, I don't if I don't. I don't know that we've ever actually

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plugged this on the show and why
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are two of the um it's only
a few of us that were commentators on

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seasons one and seasons two of Hotel
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here in the US, and I
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But not only was it a really
great show, but dan Ackroid was the

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narrator, which is just the coolest
thing on earth. Thinking he might have

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watched it and saw you and I
like, oh, I know he did.

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you know, his commentary on our
commentary. But yeah, when when a

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producer calls and says, do you
want to do a paranormal show with dan

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Ackroid, I mean there's one answer. Yes. I think I actually traveled

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through the phone lines and ended up
on their desk. I was so eager.

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I'm like, okay, I'm here. Yeah, that was a great

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experience and anybody could you confind it
online? Very well done too, You'll

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enjoy it. It's a well done
show. So hopefully one of these days

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dan Ackroid will be at one of
these pine Bush events. Lance, can

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you work your magic on that.
I've been trying to doctor strange this thing

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for a while. I keep having, you know, like a lead,

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you know, jumping the report,
trying to find out you know, agents

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and stuff coming back. It's like, yeah, it's just it's it's been.

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It's gonna be a timing thing.
So all right, Well, who

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knows. Maybe Dan's listening to our
show right now and we want you in

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pine Bush or at least on UFO
headquarters. Yes, please, we'd be

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more than happy. So, um, if we can go back to the

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museum. Um, I'm I'm curious. I've heard some things, but what

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you know, visitors don't know what
to expect. I mean, there's not

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a lot of UFO museums in the
world, or what do we have Roswell

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and pine Bush that I know of? How do how do visitors react what

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you know, you know, without
giving away what the exhibits are, I

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mean, how do they feel when
they come in? Are they enthusiastic?

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Are they into it? Um?
Well, you know, it's it's ironic

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that it's ironic that you had asked
it that way, because one of the

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things that I'll do, um,
whether it's kind of capping off, whether

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I do the guided tour or it
was just people that I you know,

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um, you know, interact with. When I hear that they're ending they're

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self guided tour, I'll be like
I pretty much asked that outright, like,

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so was it what you expected?
And um that has been has yielded

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like many many um surprised answers,
you know. I mean meaning, you

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know, these people are kind of
they didn't know what to expect, and

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they're all pleasantly surprised. I don't
want to paraphrase just to you know,

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for the sake of marketing, but
that's usually people are like, we don't

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know what to expect, and this
was awesome, you know, so you

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know, and I think that's half
the thing. I mean, what will

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you expect when you go to a
UFO museum, you know? So um

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yeah, it's uh, it's not
like I'm in league with the government and

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I've got like a big piece of
a crash ship somewhere, you know.

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It's just they don't you know,
they don't know what to expect, and

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that would definitely raise the ticket price. But um, but either way,

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uh yeah, no, it's just, um, you know, this is

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from after years of trying to cultivate
this and you know, really seeing what

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interests people and knowing which which exhibits
to put in and everything. Yeah,

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it's it's it's been great. It's
really been good because there's we've gotten such

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a positive response just because it is. It's a nice surprise for people.

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to add into something here on the museum,

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because I think some people get the
initial concept. Oh it's a UFO

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museum. It's gonna be hokey.
They're gonna see flying saucers on the wall

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and little green men. This is
professional quality museum. I want people to

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understand. This isn't you know,
thrown up stickers on the wall in a

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couple of exhibits. This is so
well done, so well curated and presented.

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I was blown away when I took
the tour initially because I didn't know

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what to expect either. So I
want people to really know that this place

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is, you know, put all
your preconceived notions aside. This is beyond

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what you can ever imagine. You'll
come out of there a changed person,

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There's no doubt. I very very
much appreciate. I appreciate that now I

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have personally been there. When someone
looks at a exhibit and says, that's

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what I saw, you know that
they're validating the exhibits, you know,

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the information we have, and also
they can add to it with their personal

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experiences. Yes, that is something
that happens very often, bit more often

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than not, actually, because they
will see one thing that inspires the memory

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of something that they've seen or you
know, something that looks similar or I

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knew someone that saw that or the
like. And we've actually, we've actually

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gotten some exhibits that have come from
that where people actually willing to talk to

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us further about there, about what
they've seen. So, um, I

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have to tell you there's a there's
a very small side exhibit that that's going

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in based on two people that came
in and they had witnessed something that they

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can that's all they could do is
kind of call it an alien and they

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didn't know what they saw and based
on the shape of it and based on

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the the way that it moved and
where they had seen it and everything,

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so they were kind enough to to
share the story and we recorded and I

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did basically I did a police sketch
and they said that's it, so you

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know, so it's basically so I
was able to do like a little description.

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So it's not gonna be a huge
exhibit, but it was very interesting.

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It was based on like direct witness
uh you know, direct witness testimony

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and they came in a museum and
they shared it with us. So well,

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that's great that you know, the
museum is you know, the visitors

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are contributing to the collection. And
I think we need a second break,

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is that correct, Brian? Before
we come back. I have a few

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more questions and we can wrap up. But let's take our second break.

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This is Hudson River Radio dot com, your local Rockland County station. This

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is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Well, we are back here with some

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great information to night Land about the
Pine Bush Museum, the Pine Bush Ufaufare

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and Lance. You're just always great
to have and talk to your wealth of

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information. And um, I'm upset
that I can't make the fair. Now,

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if if things work out with my
schedule that day, I might have

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a little bit of time. Maybe
I'll throw my stormtrooper armor on. So

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if you see a stormtrooper walking around
it might be me, thank so it

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better be you. Yeah. So
you know, I just have one or

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two other things to mention. Um. You know, this is the Pine

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Bush UFO and Paranormal Museum. You
do have some really creepy exhibits and you

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are going to be adding some really
top notch cryptids exhibits as well. Yes,

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and well, I actually have to
thank you again for this. So

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I don't know. Had you mentioned
that you had done the cryptid talk for

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the school group that had come in. No, I didn't get I didn't

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mention that. No, Okay,
Well, everybody Linda's a roomin was kind

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enough to come in and there was
a folklore class that was happening, and

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she did an entire talk about cryptids. And the irony of this is because

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of the amount of witness testimony and
that was being presented. Um. There

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was talk of um putting in a
dog man exhibit. Um. And it

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was interesting. On the fact when
Linda had mentioned and now dog man,

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there was clapping like these. I
was not expecting this and I was like,

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what's happening? Clapping and cheering and
cheering. Yeah, so there is

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a I guess I'm like this invested
interest in dog Man right now that I

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don't know. Is it like a
TikTok thing? I don't know what's going

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on. And I I paused the
presentation and Lance was on the side of

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the room and I said, do
you hear this, Lance? People love

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dog Man? Yeah? So so
yeah, so um, but we're yeah,

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we're basically through a collections of things. There is One of our gallery

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lectures coming up is with Mason Winfield
on May twentieth, and he's going to

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be talking about little people and puck
Wedgies. He's a Iroquois supernaturalist ex Burgess.

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His work is very, very interesting
and so yeah, so we're touching

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upon all new stuff for the museum. Yeah, all things strange, which

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is right up our alleys. All
right, Well that was the questions I

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had, Mike. Did you have
anything else you wanted to bring up?

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No, I think we covered the
big points. And again, if you're

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listening and can get to New York
State, go to the Pine Bush Museum.

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You won't regret it. In fact, it should be the purpose of

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your visit the company New York and
go to Pine Bush. I mean it's

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just great. Really, I can't
plug it enough. And we don't get

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any kickback to anything. I'm plugging
it because I genuinely um and I genuinely

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believe it's It gets the message out
in a professional way. It brings that

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extra credibility to the field that that
is sometimes lacking in other places. This

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is like, no, this is
a serious endeavor. This is something that

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we take seriously. It's not a
game. It's not a joke, it's

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not a haja. We believe in
aliens. It's we put our heart and

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soul into these topics and the paranormal. So and that's how we want people

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when they come out of there.
Maybe you go in there thinking, ah,

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this is all just going to be
funny, and then you come out

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going you know what, maybe just
maybe there's something else out there, you

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know, maybe excellent and Lance,
any final comments, any any requests looking

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for anything from people Sasquatch pair example, great? Would that would be fantastic

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UFO crash material little things like that. Yes, all right, Well,

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hopefully people can join Hudson River Radio
and me and maybe Mike in a stormtrooper

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uniform outfit. On June third,
I should mention rain date of June fourth,

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that is still holding yes, okay, and hopefully we'll see I will

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I never mentioned this. I have
books if you want, If you want

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the magnum Opus of Hudson Valley UFO
books, I will have copies there,

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and other authors will have their books
and just come have a good eat from

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food truck vendors, watch watch everything
that's going on, and have a good

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time that day. So, Bryan, anything else you wanted to mention,

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I'm good, Okay, go forward
to it as always. It's always a

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good time. And I always come
home with more stuff than I like.

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We bring Hudson River Radio stuff to
give away, and you know, and

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then I come home with more stuff. Yeah, and I should mention that

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I don't know what last year's figures
were, lance, but what about seven

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thousand. We're not talking about a
couple of hundred people. We're talking about

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thousands of people, correct, Yeah, I mean it is it's something through

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the course of the day, you
know, the ebb and flow of the

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amount of people that come through that
has been the number that has been that

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has been experienced. So yeah,
so thousands of people, and you get

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to meet people like minded Um.
You know, it's it's just a great

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time. Look forward to it every
year. So all right, Lance,

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thank you so much for joining us, and thank you, thank you very

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much for Thank you Lance, And
yeah, Mike, if you're not going

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to make it, I will rent
the storm trip or outbit from you.

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Okay, I'll loan it to you. You don't have to rent it,

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all right, So thanks everyone for
listening and join us again for UFO headquarters

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