WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.640 Joining us now to talk a little bit about those teams, a little college 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:07.919 football chatter with our friend Demian Parsons from the Draft Network, and he is 3 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:10.240 one of the best in the business. We're going to get him to promote 4 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:15.119 that podcast of his that really kept Trey Falco in my life, Decent Spirits 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:17.600 for a long time the off season. What's up, DP, How you 6 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:20.839 been man? What's going on? Fellers? I'm doing good. I'm doing 7 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:23.440 good. It's great, man. You know, I always tell people we're 8 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.160 football junkies. My brother had an old saying we were a little You get 9 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:30.960 to the j months, you're okay, it's those bleak months where we're underwear 10 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.759 and you know, they're out there at the combine and we're trying to measure 11 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.359 these guys up and it's all a process. But when you get into July 12 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.679 and now you get past the hot dog eating contest season and real football's on 13 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:44.039 the horizon. Bro, we're here, and I think this college football game 14 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:48.079 for mea sports dropping today sort of brought it all home. I'm assuming you 15 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:51.479 enjoy a little bit of video gaming like your boy John ellis here. Are 16 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.560 you excited about this game? Oh? Absolutely, I got the advanced Coffee 17 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:00.159 so download. I've downloaded mine on Saturday afternoon. Boy it was available. 18 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.759 Yeah, just to go ahead and so I don't have to worry about Once 19 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.799 it hit four, I was done with my reports. I was done with 20 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:11.280 work. Get chillings. I talked to my guys over here. iHeartRadio, 21 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:14.159 so I was like, guy, just chilling's. I talked to them and 22 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.159 test the game out. And it's a good game. It's a it's a 23 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:19.040 fun game, something that you can really get behind, especially if you are 24 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.920 a college football lover. Uh, it's a they did a good job. 25 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:30.719 Now the headshot to the players, that's uh. Back to the drawing board. 26 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:34.000 Yeah, I can see that. The beam of Will Muschamp, the 27 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:38.079 video of him punching the board in the locker room. That's probably one of 28 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:41.920 the graphics developers when he found some of these tweets, because the Peter Woods 29 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:45.120 one is hilarious. I'm sorry he is. His reactions like the hell is 30 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.560 this some of the some of these kids are going to have that reaction because 31 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.239 it's like, guys, you had all this time to get it right, 32 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:59.959 time to get it right. I think got to get them. I get 33 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.920 scan done well. I look, they'll clean that up. But the game 34 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:05.680 itself, it sounds great. I'll be home in an hour and a half 35 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.319 playing it with my son Andrew. It's been a fun offseason. There's been 36 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:12.479 a lot of cool storylines. We'll talk some NFL with you in a minute, 37 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.159 but obviously there's two teams that are of high interest to our audience down 38 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:17.960 here on the college circuit. Let's start with the Game Cocks. One of 39 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:23.599 my favorite people on the planet for so many reasons. Xavier Legett, who 40 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:29.120 is just a deep ball threat and he can do anything. In terms of 41 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.840 the return game, as we saw, the low volume is a bit of 42 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:36.360 a concern there because he didn't have a lot of production until that last year. 43 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.280 Your thoughts on Legett, and let's talk also after that about the game 44 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:45.960 cox expectations. Is they lose a lot of guys off that roster. Yeah, 45 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:47.560 I mean he was able to get you know, young man has you 46 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:52.719 know, look into the story very you know try you know, test it 47 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:55.240 right and put through the fire. Leave lost both of his parents and you 48 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:59.680 know, of course having a battle with COVID when COVID was around, So 49 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.639 that kind of to the minute slowed down his progress right Finally year of high 50 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.639 school coach said, hey, you're a great roide receiver, but man, 51 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.080 we need you know, we've seen high school teams let's put the best athlete 52 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:15.199 that quarterback and just let's run this thing best as possible. And that's what 53 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.120 they did with him as well. So talking about slowing down the development, 54 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:21.960 he had a lot of hurdles he had to clear. But seeing him clear 55 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:25.400 those hurdles in twenty twenty three becoming the number one target for Spencer Ratlew was 56 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:32.120 awesome to see. This young man is strong, personable, explosive a lot 57 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:35.919 of and he's a hard worker too, you know, really pay attention to 58 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.919 social media. He's working one of the best wide receiver personal wire receiver coaches, 59 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:44.439 the Lafonte Diamond coach Diamond out there training him, Tangdell, a lot 60 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:46.520 of these guys, you know, Ceedee Lamb, a lot of these guys 61 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:50.000 elite neighbors as well, and just putting them through the ring or getting him 62 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.360 more prepared to be able to run routes and cut and break and do the 63 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:58.919 things that the little nuances, the little details, because when you're that explosive, 64 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:01.159 straight and out of the break. If you can hold that line, 65 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:05.199 you hold it and once you create the separation, now maintaining. And I 66 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.639 think that's what Delafonte, Diamond cos Dimons gonna be able to do for Exavier. 67 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.599 And I'm excited to see him in this Dave Canalis offense because I think 68 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.480 the opportunities are unlimited for him. Some people said, man, he could 69 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.560 be the Mike Evans of this offense. Yeah, a little different body type, 70 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:25.040 you know, Mike Evans being sixty three sixty four, long armed, 71 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.839 tall body guy. But I think you look at potential that to him playing 72 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.839 the X, playing the Z. He could also fill that Chris Godwin power 73 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:38.920 slot role with more juice and speed and explosiveness where you can think about getting 74 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:44.199 that five yard slant out of Brice his hands to his behavior and matter of 75 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:48.399 fact, it happened against Mississippi States almost twenty three miles per hour on the 76 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:53.560 GPS, you know, on the shallow cross. So this young man that 77 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:58.240 that speed is undeniable. The strength. I remember watching them up closing on 78 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.399 the sidelines the Senior Bowl, and even when guys were like they thought they 79 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.439 had him covered. He's one of those receivers when the ball's in the air, 80 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:09.759 he's aggressive and it's I'm covered until I'm not. And that's the way 81 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.319 I look at exavierler Get where I think that's the one thing with Bryce I 82 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.680 want to see is those trucks. I call it the trust ball, whereas 83 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.600 like that back shoulder fade, that pass where it's like, listen, I 84 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:21.839 know he's in your hip pocket. The receivers telling them about with Chad, 85 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:26.759 which those single said, I have just an inch of separation, I'm open, 86 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:30.839 Carson Palmer throw it. I want Bryce to have that same confidence and 87 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.319 target exabuler Get because I think that's the guy that's going to going to be 88 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.199 able to give him a return on those types of investments. Damian Parson is 89 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:42.240 our guests from the Draft Network. That is an excellent way that you just 90 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:45.480 framed all of it. You and I sat in the stands at Wofford and 91 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:49.399 watched the practice together with Bryce and a team that I think when you get 92 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:54.240 around people like us, and I'm not saying we're elites, we're not. 93 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.839 I'm just saying we look at the tape and we don't cover fluff. We 94 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.879 cover what we see. I think we kind of understood, whereas maybe some 95 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:05.519 casuals didn't get the fact that the separation was going to be a major problem 96 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:10.959 for this receiving corps. It got worse than I thought it could when Hayden 97 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.959 Hurst did not pan out. And when you don't see guys develop as you 98 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.160 would like, it's a symptom of many things that are going on inside an 99 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.839 organization that aren't the quarterback's fault. But I will say this, you're right 100 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:26.480 about the trust ball. That is such a great phrase because right out of 101 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.199 the gate he had Mingo on a shot play at Atlanta that could have ended 102 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.920 it. And we saw Bryce time and time again in Alabama. Maybe not 103 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:38.279 the best in the college circuit, but one of them hitting the go ball 104 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:43.360 with precision, with a decent amount of catchability, and they were flat and 105 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:47.199 they were long consistently, And that comes down in my mind to just overall 106 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:50.560 confidence. But it leads back to footwork. And on that note, you 107 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:56.160 look at what else this team has done to bring in weapons. You bring 108 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:59.720 in Deontay Johnson, you add Robert Hunt. Talk about those two guys in 109 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:02.079 twoicular, because to me, if this thing gets turned around a bit, 110 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.720 it's never just one guy, but that is two players in particular that I 111 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:12.399 feel can thrive here and can be a core group with Bryce moving forward if 112 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.319 it goes well. One hundred percent. You know, one of the big 113 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.480 things of them spending over one hundred million dollars on the anterior offensive line with 114 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:25.160 Robert Hunt and Damian Lewis was big to me because with Bryce, you want 115 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:28.399 to give him a a pocket, right, you know, I kind of 116 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.600 that McDonald's arc, like, you want to give them that to where he 117 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:35.000 could step up into it, not just because he did have an issue drifting 118 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:45.160 back a little bit in college year hundred percent. So I love doing that 119 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.600 because now when with for that also helps the tackles, right, helps Ikey, 120 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:54.439 I can run the guy around that arc and Bryce to have a comfortable 121 00:07:54.480 --> 00:08:00.839 pocket with these two massive physical powerhouses on the interior offensive line. To give 122 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:05.560 him a wall, right, give him between the two guards and the Senate, 123 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.279 which I know Austin Corbett is just supposed to be the senter. So 124 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:11.000 the center is a little bit of a question mark because he's coming back off 125 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.399 of an injury, but they can get that solidified. You give him a 126 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:18.879 great wall between those three. He can step up and make make plays. 127 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.160 Then that's when the whole you know, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees comps that 128 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:26.560 we throw around for the shorter style quarterbacks, that's when it becomes fitting. 129 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:31.320 When he can start find stepping up and finding throwing lanes and you can help 130 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.120 your tackles out. So I think those two guards are going to be massive 131 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:39.200 for Bryce right, especially with the run game too. Give them that play 132 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:46.320 action pass. Dave Cannell's putting him more under center. Yeah, I'm last 133 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.600 year's tape. I looked at every snap. I sound a little bit like 134 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.639 Jaworski from twenty years ago. I looked at I literally did David and I'm 135 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:58.080 going to tell you so many times at Bama there was a cool, calm 136 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:03.399 collectiveness about it. His footwork and posture in that pocket. It was pretty 137 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.000 similar many times Surprice last year. But the movement game was not there. 138 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.759 No pocket movement, no deep play action roll shots with Russ. They got 139 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:16.399 him in some like what I call ultra deep drops to give him a little 140 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.120 extra vision. I just can't make sense of what the hell they were doing 141 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.720 with him, other than to say Frank and Thomas Brown and the entire brain 142 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.480 trust just couldn't figure out one way to do it. It was fifty ways 143 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.480 to do one thing, and you can't do it that way. And we're 144 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.840 gonna see what happens here for the Panthers, who won two games last year, 145 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.039 certainly destined for hopefully better things this year. Trey Falco and he Steelers. 146 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.919 Questions that you might have for our friend David Parsons, I know you've 147 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.320 been chopping at the video a little bit. I do. I do have 148 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.919 a couple of questions. First of all, our raft, our draft expert. 149 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:50.200 Yeah, let's ride, let's ride. I ask the US is, 150 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.639 how the hell did we end up with Troy Faltanu where he fell where he 151 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.799 fell in the draft? That is a great pickup. And then following that, 152 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.919 yeah, following that, what do you make could this twenty twenty four 153 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:05.399 draft class for the Steelers and how do you see them adjusting? I guess 154 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.200 to the NFL, oh Man, I love what the Steelers did right, 155 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.679 getting Tory Fautanu, who can play tackle or guard. I'm gonna be interested 156 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.320 to see how they handle this offensive line. Adding Zach Fraser, remember talking 157 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.720 to you know, talking to one of our guys who lives in the Pittsburgh 158 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.120 area, you know, former scout in the NFL. He's telling us over 159 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.440 at locked On, He's like, listen, man. Like the Steelers fans 160 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.120 have been clamoring for a loose for a center, cornerstone center since the Pounty 161 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.360 Oh yes, County brother right. So getting Zack Fraser, I think that 162 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.240 was a great, great grab, be able to get him in the second 163 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:46.240 round. Getting Mason McCormick, a developmental guard, just becoming more physical whether 164 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.799 and for me, what this signifies is no matter who's that quarterback, whether 165 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.600 it's Russ, whether it's justin fields, We're going to run this football like 166 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.840 you're gonna have to the phrase of Black and Blue days. It's gonna be 167 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.960 a hard hat, lunch paal type of game. This is bringing back AFC 168 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.759 North prime Steeler football. In my opinion, the midfield logo should be towers 169 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:11.480 faced with spittle coming out. That's how much they're gonna run it. I 170 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.080 totally agree with you for one hundred percent. And I love the addition of 171 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.440 Rome and Wilson. I remember listening to I Think it was George Pickens from 172 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.840 I Think O Ta is a mini camp saying he expects to see more slot 173 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.120 snap, which is very good because now you get to move them away from 174 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:33.039 the boundary now a lot of no matter if it's a top outside corner or 175 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.519 not, a lot of these guys not like walking down into the nickel because 176 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.200 that's a total different challenge having a two way go. He has to defend 177 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.960 outside of being on the you know, regardless of being on the outside, 178 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.399 we have the sideline, So putting him in the nickel. I'm looking forward 179 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.159 to seeing if Darnell Washington can take a step. I love what they were 180 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:54.919 doing, what they were done in this draft and Peyton Wilson that that that 181 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.720 pick. I love Peyton Wilson as a prospect athletic. He's physical, can 182 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:05.080 cut, blitz, he does so many bits. And when you add him 183 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.519 to a front seven with Keanu Benton and cam Cam Hayward, Alex high Smith, 184 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:15.039 CJ. Watt and this defense, I think that's what you're looking forward 185 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.360 to as well, getting back to playing not the Steeler offensive football, but 186 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:24.519 Steeler defensive football. Joey Porter Junior taking the next step, having Maker Fitzpatrick 187 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:30.519 believe they believe you got added Geno Stone from the Ravens. Yes, that's 188 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.799 like nine picks a couple of years ago. That's a big one. So 189 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.480 I'm looking forward to just this team and how they messed together. But what 190 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.720 they they to me? This is one of my face one of my phrases 191 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.960 that when I pay attition to hot teams, moves comes draft times. Draft 192 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:52.399 for a plan, like, have an idea. Yes you can pivot, 193 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.559 but have an idea. What do you want to do? What's going to 194 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.039 be our identity? How are we going to improve this team? The Pittsburgh 195 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.799 Steelers walked into the twenty twenty four in the thold draft class. What's a 196 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.559 plan and the executed it to a team. I love that draft class. 197 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.639 You know why they typically win nine, ten eleven games and they don't look 198 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.600 like idiots at the podium because they don't chat it up with their wives or 199 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.639 friends in the sixth round and say, you know what, let's take that 200 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.720 long snapper. When Trey Smith is on the board, Trey Falco, go 201 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:22.559 ahead, all right, now, I want to pivot a little bit to 202 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.480 this Steelers defense. Obviously, people are talking about another hole to kind of 203 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:31.200 fill for the Steelers, and we've been trying to fill this hole for quite 204 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.039 a while now as cornerback. Obviously we've got Joey Porter Junior, and hopefully 205 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.159 he makes more leaps and strides the second year, because I think he had 206 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:43.559 a phenomenal first year. But here's a name that you probably probably don't remember 207 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.159 from last year. Maybe you do, Corey Trice Junior. What are your 208 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:50.000 thoughts on Corey trist Junior. I think we picked him up the seventh round 209 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.919 maybe somewhere around there. He might have been our last pick. Obviously, 210 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.759 he got injured in mini camp last year, so we didn't really get to 211 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.600 see what he could become. And so this is kind of like almost like 212 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:03.600 Calvin Austin, where this is going to be like his rookie year on his 213 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.960 second year because he was injured before the season even started. What are your 214 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.000 thoughts on Corey trust Junior? Do you think he could make an impact? 215 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.120 Maybe he's a follow up. It seems like our cornerback two is gonna be 216 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.240 probably Dante Jackson, but who knows. What do you think of Corey trust 217 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.840 Junior? I like Corey. I got that believe. I gave him a 218 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:24.480 fourth round grade when he came out, So if I've never correctly like big 219 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.200 athletic kids. Physical, I know how to play press coverage. You can 220 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.159 play his own spots. That'll bail technique, get to a spots, reading 221 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.960 route coverage, it route concepts, being in the right place at the right 222 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:37.919 time. Type of guy. Wasn't afraid to tackle either. And I think 223 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.759 you for one being on the being on the sighland as the Senior Bowl, 224 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.559 being able to watch I believe it was last year, being able to watch 225 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:52.399 Mike Tomlin coach. Yeah, you better be ready to tackle. Coach Tomlin 226 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.120 is not going to have it any other way. So I think this was 227 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:00.799 and I was excited for him, especially you know adding you know, when 228 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.879 you guys drafted Joey Porter earlier, I said, man, like, I 229 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.600 really like pairing him with Corey. But now now you get yourself two big 230 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:13.840 athletic corners. And also they picked up Darius Rush, who was a guy 231 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:20.000 who stood out at the Senior Bowl last year South Carolina. Yes, tall 232 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:24.159 athletics, super athletic. I just don't think. I didn't think he was 233 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:28.360 a good fit for that Gus Bradley pure zone scheme to see. To me, 234 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:30.960 he was more of a man to man corner and that's why I don't 235 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.960 think he really fit into that into that system. And I also got it 236 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:37.000 wrong. You know, someone went to the Cincinnati you guys have Patrick quin 237 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.879 thought, Yeah, Patrick Quinn, Elliott doc J Jackson. So this this 238 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.559 secondary overall, I like what what what they've done to it and what they've 239 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:50.279 done with it. And they got a lot of versatile pieces in that secondary, 240 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:52.480 especially at safety, Guys that can play strong, play free, be 241 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:54.960 a big nickel if you want to. Look if he needed to pull a 242 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.039 linebacker off, you could, but you probably don't need to. With Patrick 243 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:02.080 Queen and Peyton Wilson. Well, the life is going to eventually be your 244 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:06.080 two starters and nickel package is two really ask of the players. So this 245 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.240 defense to me, and I'm gonna tell you right now, I love Keanu 246 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:12.480 Bitton. I spent time would Sea bowl off the field, you know, 247 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.600 just trying to talk with n one on one and everything. This jo has 248 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:19.480 a wrestling background. I think he was a runner up state champion if I 249 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:25.919 remember correctly, physical, great body control, and he's so self aware in 250 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.879 terms of his game. So this young man is going to consistently work to 251 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:32.000 be better. I love it. So I've got one final question. This 252 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:33.399 is a standout guy for me. I picked him out kind of in the 253 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.000 preseason of last year and I've just I've loved what he's done. I would 254 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.320 love to see a little bit more playtime. I think he's gonna be back 255 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.519 up to probably TJ. Watt, Alex high Smith, but Nick Herbig. 256 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:48.240 When we drafted Nick Herbig, did you see him kind of making I guess 257 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:51.159 the impact that he did, I don't know. The guy has a motor 258 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.399 on him. He is incredible and he's a wonderful backup there, and I 259 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:59.159 think, yeah, yeah, basically, yeah, I just love watching him 260 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:03.200 play. Man. He really is. Honestly, though I saw the preseason, 261 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.680 I was like, this guy's got something. Yeah. I've been yeah, 262 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:08.599 I've been tweaking about him since like twenty twenty two. I'm a big 263 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:12.799 fan of his. This dude was like he's on. He was underside of 264 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:18.240 two twenty eight in college and everything. But you know, I remember watching 265 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:19.440 him and I was like, man, he reminds me so much of TJ. 266 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:25.720 Watt in terms of understanding how to reduce uh surface hitting area, how 267 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:29.240 to attack angles. He was quick, he had you know, fluid hits. 268 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.400 He can dip and bend. You have to always talk about being a 269 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:37.319 two lanes rusher as a defensive player, being able to rush outside, create 270 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.240 and put pressure on the outside edges and the outside shoulder of a tackle, 271 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:45.039 make them over set because they're expecting that speed rush, and then be able 272 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:51.319 to kind of basketball move a eurostep your way across face into the inside pass. 273 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.200 And he brought every bit of that. He had such right and I 274 00:17:55.279 --> 00:18:00.119 was going to say, that's been like a Steeler's template of scouting since the 275 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.119 sixties. I mean, it's amazing because the scheme changes a little bit, 276 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.400 but it's you got your two edge rushers in a two point stance. It's 277 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:12.759 thirty four variations and they get these guys that's comeing off the assembly line every 278 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:17.039 single year. I think at some point we have to acknowledge the fact that 279 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:22.119 organizational structure and competency leads to some of that. Yeah, it's not the 280 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:25.000 fact they're just drafting studs and they just go out and do it. You've 281 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:26.759 got the right people in the building to develop them too. And it's just 282 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.039 a it's a loaded unit. And I'm hoping for my boy Tray here. 283 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:36.759 Although they have what multiple championships and Panthers have not done that yet. I'm 284 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:41.079 wishing for good things for them. I will say this that the Cowboys, 285 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:45.480 look, I think you'll first take has warned that one out. But I 286 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:49.480 am interested about this team. This feels like the kind of year and look, 287 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.920 I could be completely wrong. Usually I am, but here's just take 288 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.000 a stab at it. They have a lot of good pieces on that team. 289 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.839 But the check comes due, it has already and it looks like he 290 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.480 just fall off a cliff, especially at quarterback. What is the plan post 291 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:08.000 Dak? Just prayed the draft works out, Trey Lance, because it looks 292 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:12.799 like Dak is gone barring some type of deal that would be done in a 293 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:15.920 time frame time span that is way out of whack. What do you think 294 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:22.559 about the Dak situation. I think that they overplayed their hands Dallas understanding that 295 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:26.200 I think one of the biggest things that mean Keith talk about this a lot, 296 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:34.720 the Dallas Cowboys. They have championship or aspirations, whatever whatever way you 297 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.039 want to describe it. But then for a while, for the past couple 298 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:42.880 of years, they've lacked the championship roster. And so when you get to 299 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.359 the playoffs, like you win ten eleven games. When you get to the 300 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:51.319 playoffs, that's when the energy, the game plans, the schemes, they're 301 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:53.480 racketed up, they go up another level. Wait a minute, gp DP, 302 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:56.720 I was under the impression that it was all on Dak Prescott. It 303 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:02.839 wasn't like a collective team thing. That's amazing. There's nuance to this business. 304 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.559 I'm glad you're here. Trust me. People are just idiots. When 305 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:12.960 you trade you're at the time, You're best receiver Amari Cooper for a fifth 306 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.839 round pickoff of because of emotions, you know what I mean. And Jerry 307 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.240 Jones's emotion that's a bad that's a recipe for disaster. So yeah, ceedee 308 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.880 Lamb took a step and became an elite wide receiver last year, but you're 309 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:27.599 still hoping that. Okay, second year with Brandon Cooks in the system, 310 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:32.720 you're hoping Jalen Tolbert out of South Alabama can take a step going into year 311 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:34.720 three. Year two, year three, I think it's year three for him, 312 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.920 Like you, Cavansee Turfin, who's been more of a special teams guy, 313 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.680 like you don't have enough talented wide receiver to help Dak. I love 314 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:49.400 with the tight end situation with Jake Ferguson taking that step. Love loose schoonmaker 315 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.920 from Michigan that they drafted last year. I think they should run a lot 316 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.119 of twelve. Love the fact that they addressed the offensive line the way that 317 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:02.960 they did, getting Cooper BB, getting Tyler Dydon right adding to this offensive 318 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.839 line. Absolutely love it. But at the same time, you don't have 319 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:11.400 you still lacking some pieces, so I think they overplayed their hands. Yes, 320 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:12.599 you go ahead. You should have went ahead and paid Dak when you 321 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:18.480 had the opportunity. Yes, they're letting him take the blame or playoff losses 322 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.799 and everything else. That's bad management in my opinion. So yes, you're 323 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.960 gonna in my opinion, you're gonna want to I'm not you look at the 324 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.119 roster. You got what Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush is playing the fourth the 325 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:34.000 fourth quarter of every preseason game, because I need to see what I got 326 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:38.799 in Trey Lance. You're starting and finishing every play every preseason game. Trade 327 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:44.880 I need to see you develop game the game, quarter to quarter within this 328 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.880 offense because if we lose Dak, you might be our quarterback next year, 329 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:52.279 which right now we don't know what Trey Lance is and he hasn't had the 330 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.119 chance to play enough. So the Dallas Cowboys put themselves in a very tough 331 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:57.720 spot. They did in terms of how to navigate this thing because you also 332 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.319 got to pay Michael Park. Yes, yeah, get young guys on that 333 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.680 team everywhere that are second third year guys that are key to what they do. 334 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.119 They've lost to be hottish, but they've rebuilt a tackle and I think 335 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.920 Dan Quinn for Mike Zimmer is going to be a culture shock for this defense 336 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:18.920 DP. I'm just telling you right now. Mike I like him, but 337 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.599 Dan is a player's guy and he relates and he had them fre flowing. 338 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:29.640 Now they play a speed type of defensive front and the middle can be exposed. 339 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.160 What does Zimmer do in terms of scheme? But more so, we 340 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:34.839 saw what happened last year with one of the old heads out there, the 341 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:40.279 good ones down in Miami, and they hated him, Fangio, and they 342 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:41.920 ran them out of town even though they were inked top ten. So a 343 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.920 lot of moving parts and it just seems like they could win ten games and 344 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.119 then kind of fall off a cliff for a year or two because it's not 345 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.880 galaxy brain stuff that Jerry Jones is doing here. He prides himself on building 346 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:57.359 an empire. It's great, You've got a great quarterback who just needs to 347 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:02.960 find a way to punch through in the playoffs. People, I don't understand 348 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.240 why they don't remember for years and years and years, only one or two 349 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:10.759 quarterbacks was winning this damn thing every year. It's just ridiculous. Well see 350 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:15.000 what happens. There's my Dallas rant. Did you watch the Receiver Show on 351 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.599 Netflix? Shit, if you had a chance to see it, Yes, 352 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:22.160 I have two more episodes to finish. I think this right here is a 353 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.279 goal mine. Starting with last year with the quarterback, I'm lobbying that we 354 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:32.480 get either corner like dB E line with edge and some edge guys, some 355 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:36.000 of the top edge guys, Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt, Michah Parsons, 356 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:40.160 Chris Jones on the interior, something like that. I need a defensive 357 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.319 this. Don't get me wrong, guys. I love the quarterbacks and dig 358 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:47.599 get all the money and everything, but some of the most intelligent football players 359 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:52.759 in the game are defenders. I love listening to defensive players break down the 360 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:55.519 game, the coverage, just the way that they beat one on one, 361 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:59.319 whether it's a defensive line, and how they study different things of that nature. 362 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:03.119 I love listening to that Noga Merong. I love hearing, you know, 363 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.400 Tom Brady or Peyton break down this what they're seeing from quarterbacks. But 364 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.359 I love to hear a corner sitting out there on the island. Okay, 365 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.799 I have to study what this receiver does. Then I transition to studying what 366 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.680 does the quarterback do when he wants to go to that side of the field, 367 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.279 and different things of that nature. So I'm hoping we get a deepen 368 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.400 the side of the ball with different positions with this series. But this series 369 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:30.559 is outstanding, great production, just the inside detail to what makes these players 370 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:34.880 tick, what motivates them, Like justin Jefferson talking about how he's such a 371 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:38.039 calm, cool, collected person off the field, but when he puts the 372 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:41.359 helmet on, he becomes jets and it's like, yes, you have a 373 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.640 flip twitch. And then you see how dominant of a player. Oh my 374 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:52.079 god, how the lungs coughing up blood and he can't see any cuts in 375 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.759 his mouth. How frightening. And he's back in a couple of weeks catching 376 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.839 one hundred yards worth of passes, and these guys are in every penny based 377 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.880 on market value. That people don't understand. You do, I do. 378 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.119 We've been around it, how hard it is to be an NFL player. 379 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.359 The next show, obviously, is gonna be just called bastards, and it's 380 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:12.720 the bastard coaches like Dan Campbell. We're gonna have four, just Brian Dabole, 381 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:18.480 just salty. I'll take it out. I love give me some Dan. 382 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.640 Get an inside look at his meetings and just as his speech is consistently 383 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.880 you know, wins, losses, doesn't matter. I love that man. 384 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.319 We have the full sound banking. Remember his press conference. This is what 385 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.519 people need to learn. Everybody laughed at him, bite knee catch all that 386 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.440 whoa? This guy is crazy. Man. I don't know what's going on 387 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.799 here, but he would get me and my entire family if he wants to. 388 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.000 Now, Yeah, Daddy, Dan, come pick me up and take 389 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:51.480 me home. David Parson's our guest man. And you've made a real effort 390 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.200 here to spend more time than we even asked you to today. Can you 391 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.079 help us understand in our whole listening audience where to find your work I know 392 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.279 where to find it, but helped understand exactly what's going on this time of 393 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.240 year. For It's a great podcast as well. Let's promote that of course. 394 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:08.480 Of course, you know, five days a week locked on NFL Draft. 395 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.559 Right now, we're going through we were finishing up going through summer scouting, 396 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.319 so we're still talking about prospects for the twenty twenty five NFL Draft class, 397 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.839 but also now we're transitioning into talking about some of the rookies from twenty 398 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.359 twenty four. As rookies are reporting to camp, we'll get into discussions about 399 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:29.920 quarterbacks getting off to fast starts in training camp and what type of impacts that 400 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.079 momentum will do for them. So they're five days a week locked the NFL 401 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.720 Draft Podcast on Apples, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts, go download 402 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.759 it, hit automatic downloads, check and tap in with us. Of course 403 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.680 always at the Draft Network Scouting Reports, Draft Network YouTube channel we have I'll 404 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:51.519 be doing film breakdowns collegiate film breakdowns on prospects there in the next couple of 405 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.359 weeks, and then I have my own YouTube channel called the Scouting Room. 406 00:26:55.480 --> 00:27:00.519 Well, I'll be doing more NFL based breakdowns of NFL players, some schemes, 407 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.240 run games, stuff like that. I really really enjoyed doing so. 408 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.920 Just happened with you. Go up boy, and of course on Twitter, 409 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.599 dpn s great NFL, come holler at me the quote Bark Scott can't wait. 410 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.240 Can't wait, my friend. You're one of the best, dude, 411 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:17.759 and it's been way too long. Let's make this a regular thing, bro, 412 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.599 and we'll we'll be talking real live football here in a matter of weeks. 413 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:23.720 Damon Partsons, thanks for coming by, but thanks Fellers.