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Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and
Jason, this week covering our Flag Means

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Death, Season one, Episode two, a Damned Many. Welcome to spacy

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Now. I'm BB and I'm Jason, and today we will be discussing our

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Flag Means Death. Before we start, you should know this podcast is being

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We've covered all the Battlestar Galactica,
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to hit some more shows after we
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pretty short and sweet, so I'm
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podcast where we are free to discuss
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series. If it's your first time
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need to skip that clearly marked section
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otherwise we won't be spoiling anything past
this episode, which is our flag means

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Death. Season one, episode two, A Damned Man. This originally aired

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on March third, twenty twenty two, which is the same as last week,

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because they did release these in chunks, so I think the first three

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episodes came out on the same day. Well, I would have loved that.

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I didn't watch it right when it
came out because we didn't have HBO

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then, But oh, I got
three episodes in a row out my pants.

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I mean that's how they did the
whole series that came out in chunks

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like that, so, which I'm
not always the biggest fan of like especially

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like this show built a lot off
of word of mouth, and if you

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release it over you know, ten
weeks as opposed to four or five weeks,

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and you have kind of a longer
period for it to grow. This

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was written by David Jenkins, who
was the creator and Joe runner, and

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was directed by Nacho Violando, which
put aside about him Phoebe, we watched

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well, so there's a podcast called
How Did This Get Made? Which is

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where they watch bad movies and talk
about them, joke about them, and

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We went to a live show for
that. In the movie we watch was

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called Open Windows, and he was
the director of that movie, the one

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with Elijah Wood. Yep, oh
dear, oh wow he got to work

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with Elijah Wood at least. Oh
wow. Well he's doing better, so

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he's Yeah, he's definitely grown a
lot since Open Windows. Veja, you

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know his real name is Ignacio,
Yes it is. He directs a few

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of these. In this episode,
the Revenge runs aground on an island and

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Steve orders the crew to take a
vacation. Steve, Black, Pete,

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and Alu Wande set off to retrieve
their escape hossages, but are captured by

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the local tribe on the island.
Steve struggle struggles to be at peace with

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Nigel Badminton's death. Were sold to
another group of pirates, who, after

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a brief skirmish, agree to return
one hostage. The rival pirates secretly follow

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the Revenge, revealing their captain to
be Blackbeard. Meanwhile, Lucius discovers Jim's

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disguise and Jim knocks him unconscious.
All right, vibe check, vibe check.

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Did we like the episode overall?
How does it stand the test of

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time? I love this episode.
You love it. I love it.

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It's great. It's not the best, but it's really great. Yeah.

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I don't think it ranks quite as
high as the first episode, but I

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mean it's still as good. Yeah. There's my personal favorite thing is the

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interactions between the natives and the different
people that they encounter on their island.

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Yeah, and how they deal with
that and how they're like, for me

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once, shame on you, for
me eight times, you fucking gonna die.

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So yeah, I like that.
I think it was really real and

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honest, and you don't see that
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So that was really cool where they're
like in their traditional like homes and

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settings, but they're also like,
bitch, we speak English, we know

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what you're saying, and we're not
savages, Like we're just upset that you

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guys keep coming over here and our
shit. So that was Yeah, this

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is why I really enjoyed this episode. And then it just moves the plot

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forward in a way that's interesting.
We add more characters and I don't know,

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I'm just really excited to see more. Yeah, it builds on some

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things and that you know, not
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of it. But we see like
some character growth, I mean, Steed

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is processing and we learn a little
bit more about some of our characters.

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Trivia time. What facts could we
uncover for a damned man? Well,

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it's stock a little trivia. So
it's said that the real Blackbeard had a

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practice of tying lit fuses into his
beard to scare his opponents. Oh that's

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funny, And so the idea of
his whole head being made of smoke might

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have been tied to that. Yeah. And you can see images of him,

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like drawings and stuff of him with
like the smoky beard too. Yeah,

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that is an established thing about him, like historical drawings of him.

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Yeah, that's cool. Those historical
drawings of black Beard are really interesting,

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though if you look through them,
most of them are like wanted posters and

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shit like that, but they're really
interesting. Vico Ortiz revealed that when filming

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the scene where Jim swims naked in
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with the Malibu police. When in
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off so it wouldn't show above the
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chest was visible. Yeah, because
Vico is assigned female at births, even

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though they are non binary and they're
totally okay with exposing their chest. The

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Malibu police was so not cool with
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it sucks. Yep, free the
nipple. And that's all the trivia that

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I have. I don't think most
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a lot of trivia, not like
when we were doing Battlestar, when there

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was like pages of things I could
scroll through and find. I'm sure you

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could find stuff, but it's just
like so niche for this show specifically.

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Yeah, and some trivia is just
like pointing out historical inaccuracies. But I

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don't think this show is like trying
to be that accurate. No. I

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mean, yeah, the writing in
itself and the way that they speak to

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each other is like a testament to
that. When he says we have DIBs,

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you think that's historically accurate? Yeah, I mean it's so clearly not.

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And like they do that fist bump
and so yeah, there's something in

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there like pina coladas, which is
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like that wasn't invented yet in Pinocchio. I know that maybe indigenous people did

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event the I like that retelling of
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Yeah, that's my favorite. That's
my favorite thing. That he's wearing

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crocs this whole time. And I
don't know if they're is from home or

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if like the prop Department's like,
sure, why not? But it's iconic.

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Uh. Yeah, So let's get
into it deep space dive. Let's

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break down some of our thoughts on
the episode. You can share your thoughts

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with us through email or social media. We may use your comments on an

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upcoming episode. Start off with black
Pete spinning a tail about Blackbeard and serving

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on his crew. Nobody's buying it
except for Steve Bonnet. Yes, everyone's

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tired of Black Pete's bullshitt. The
episode just keeps asking what would Blackbeard do?

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Yeah, because a big, big
theme of this episode is like seeds

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guilt over what happened with Nigel last
episode and how responsible he is for his

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death is up for debate, but
he certainly feels it leads himself to be

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a murderer, especially since he's claimed
it among his clue crew. Yeah.

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Yeah, I think the weight of
the guilt is really heavy on him at

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the beginning of the episode, because
he admitted he did it, and he

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did do it, more or less
the fact that he like he rendered him

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unconscious and then he fell on his
sword, so he would have never fallen

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on his sword if he was never
unconscious. So more or less he did

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kill him. It was more of
an accident than like planned murder. But

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the ghost of Nigel really taunts him
at this island. I think that's where

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we see him a lot in this
island setting. And it's interesting that he's

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seen him, like even when he's
not there, and that he's seen him

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when he's having conversations with the crew. I like that what's his name?

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The witch? What's his name?
The one with the thanks when I want

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to eat Lucius Buttons, Buttons,
Buttons. I like that. Buttons is

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like ready for a stranded island.
We're gonna have to eat somebody right now,

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He's like, but eventually and he's
like, no, we have food

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for months weeks, which Buttons is. I think the reason that they ran

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aground is he wasn't at the Yeah, he was listening to the story.

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You know. There was a piece
of trivia for the first episode that I

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found after we recorded that. Buttons
is established in the script as the first

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mate on the ship, but it's
not set in the episode, so he

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is the right hand man first Steed. That's what the loyalty was about,

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huh. And he can name so
many birds and fishes and sea creatures yep.

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I like that. They're like,
what the fuck is a vacation?

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What are you talking about a vacation? Like, we don't do vacation.

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We're pirates. And Steed was like
trying to explain to these people what a

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vacation was, and what they end
up doing is like pirate shit. Yeah,

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they're like fighting and wanting to torture
hostages, like exploding things. Yeah.

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And it's just like very obvious that
they don't know how to like relax

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and be at leisure. I like
that they were confused so they didn't know

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if like the hostages get a vacation
too, and that's what leads the hostages

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to take advantage of their like ignorance
of like the situation to run away.

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But then they get captured by locals
and that's pretty good. I don't know.

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I like that there they all get
captured for the most part. Yeah,

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so the only ones who don't get
captured and like deal with the locals

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in a business transaction is the other
crew, Blackbeard's crew, Like they're smart

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enough not to get captured and smart
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Yeah, we don't see how that
goes down, but they apparently walk up

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and just purchase these hostages. But
yeah, I thought it was interesting that

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the white people were in cages and
Oluwan Day was chilling. He's like,

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hey, guys, talk to the
chief. They made you a drink.

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He had a pina colada. It's
really good. He's like, you want

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to taste it? And the guard
was like, ah, that's not a

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good idea. But I love the
black and brown solidarity that was present.

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Yeah, it almost like it is
somewhat the opposite of what we saw in

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the previous episode where they had to
pretend to be a part of society on

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their ship, like where all the
white people are to table and the black

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people are serving. Yeah, and
this one is just like Aluwandi. He

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gets to walk around for you and
have chats and get drinks and so having

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a good time. He's the hero
in this tale because he like advocates for

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his white friend. He's like,
Hey, look, we're just dumb ass

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pirates, and I think we need
a break. And I love the distinction

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between pirate and colonizer. I think
that's really clever and interesting to think about

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in terms of like the historical nature
of the pirate versus the colonizer in that

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time period, because the colonizer was
probably wreaking more havoc and causing more deaths

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than the pirate class in a lot
of ways. So I like that they

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were like, you're right, you
know, a pirate is not dangerous to

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us, so we're going to let
you go. That's really telling and accurate.

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Although if you were to tell that
to society back in that time,

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you would be like ostracized because like, how dare you think that the betterment

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of the like empire is bad and
that these people who are stealing from the

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rich like are bad? Like they're
bad people? How dare you think that

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they're worse? They're not as bad
as that we the colonizers are the we're

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the good guys. Those pirates they're
the bad guys. Okay, they're the

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ones stealing from people and taking jewels
and shit. I don't know, it's

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just really interesting. They're probably stealing
from the Queen or the kings that like

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put a bunch of loot in their
boats, and they could afford to lose

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some of that shit and still be
okay. You know, a common person

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isn't going to have access to rubies
and shit. They're very Robin Hood esque,

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I think the pirates, and they
have their own like moral code,

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I'm sure, but I like how
Steed was like, we're not the colonizers,

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we're pirates, and then he confesses
the murder. Yeah, and all

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the one they has to step in
clear everything up, and Steed gets like

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a therapy session. I feel like, yeah, it looks like their medicine

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man is present to help him deal
with like the trauma of potentially killing somebody,

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and I think that helps him in
a lot of ways, because at

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the end of the episode, Nigel
is left on the island. Yeah,

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yeah, so we kind of see
Steed is moving past that. Yeah.

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So we also meet three other pirates. We have Izzy, Fang and Ivan

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who come onto the scene and like, who are these idiots. It's the

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first time we really get a contrast
between the Steed's crew and like other actual

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like functioning pirates, they're meaner.
Yeah, they're way meaner, and they're

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mean to each other. Yeah,
like when Izzy grabbed Fang's beard and yanked

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it, that's abuse and he says
he does it a lot and that's terrible.

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I don't know. I'm interested to
see the dynamic between the two groups

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for sure. And like you could
tell, Izzy was super upset that Steed

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was like negotiating with him, And
I'm worried about like them splitting up those

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two hostages, right, Like what's
gonna happen, Like what's the difference?

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What kind of treatment is one hostage
going to get over the other? Yeah,

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you can see that Izzy is no
fan of Steed's. You can see

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the grudge in his eyes. So
yeah, after that negotiation, we at

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the end of the episode, we
get to learn that this they are part

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of Blackbeard's crew. He's also a
funny bit where Fang and Ivan are talking

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about how mean Izzy is. Yeah, they're clearly not allowed to talk about

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it on their ship. Yeah,
they don't talk it out as a crew.

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Let's talk about Jim. Jim stinks
and they are tired of it.

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They're like, I smell almost as
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writing in their diary in Spanish,
and I was like, this is the

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most dramatic I have ever seen anything
like this is drama. Like just standing

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there writing feverishly sweating, talking in
Spanish and writing in Spanish about how they

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put themselves in this situation. It's
like a prison of their own making,

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and how terrible it is to be
so gross and sweaty. It was just

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really like dramatic. It's like that
meme cries in Spanish where it's just I

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don't know. In my head,
like the way I interpret things, things

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just happen to be more dramatic and
Spanish. Did you feel that drama?

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I don't know. I don't recall
the diary. Yeah, they were writing

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in Spanish and sweating in it was
that. That was before they went in

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the water, after they talked to
Oluwan Day Okay, So it was in

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between that. I must have been
making a note or something on something else.

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Yeah, they were just and then
they threw a knife out a roach

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and killed it. But then they're
like fuck it, and they went out

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and they got in the water and
fucking lucious Lucius was tired of hearing fucking

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buttons talk about fucking all the animals
in the sea he could name well,

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and the cannon fire going on behind
him. Oh yeah, there was.

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Yeah, it was a little too
close for comfort. And you can tell

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Lucius is softer than the rest of
the boys. He's he knows how to

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write, he reads, and he's
obviously like not into what they're into,

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and so he's like wandering around and
he runs into Jim's disguise and he notices

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Jim's brists as they're bobbing along in
the ocean getting clean, and they try

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to hide, but Jim is too
fast and stealthy, and they like come

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up and they're like pin. Jim
pins Lucious down and is like, I'm

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gonna fucking kill you, bro.
You saw too much. And Lucia's is

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like, no, I can keep
a secret. And this he's like my

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mom that I like girls until I
was like eighteen or something. Yeah,

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so lucius sexuality is outed there.
M hmmm. I don't know that anyone

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has really had the explicit in the
show yet. He also said not all

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beards are actual beards, which was
interesting line. Yeah, you know what

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a beard is yes, okay for
the uneducated, a beard is usually a

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person of the opposite sex who is
used to conceal the queerness of somebody.

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So you have a quote unquote girlfriend, but she's actually your beard, so

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that people don't know that you're a
flaming homosexual loves men or something and can

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go both ways like lesbians can have
beards too. But yeah, it's interesting.

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Yeah. So I mean Lucius escapes
and gets on the boat, I

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guess, yeah, and then Jim
finds them eventually at the end of the

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episode, were left kind of cliffhanger, yeah, on that, but we

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also get some insight into Aluwande and
how he feels about Jim. They're friends,

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what do you mean, Yeah,
I mean he's I mean there's clearly

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some like romantic or sexual tension between
them. When they're talking about Jim taking

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a bath, I can watch.
I mean, I'll be a lookout.

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And then he turns down the offer
to stay on the island with the natives,

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even though he would have he would
have thrived. He would have thrived.

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Yeah, he would have been great
with his crocs. Just you out.

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Yeah, I think he says he
has a friend on the boat and

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that is interesting. There's romance afoot. Feels like we're at least like a

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romantic confrontation. I don't know though. Jim's tough. Jim's like tough,

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and I don't know, Like,
yeah, I don't have a read on

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how if Jim reciprocates this or not, So we'll see how it goes.

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Do you have anything else you want
to talk about? I don't think so.

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It was a pretty short episode.
It feels like, Yeah, they

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were on land, which is interesting
when they're on land the boat show.

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Oh you know what was interesting to
me when he was flashing back to the

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things because the medicine man told him, you know, I don't think you're

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guilty about the murder. I think
there's something deeper that is giving you guilt.

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And when Steve Bonnett looks back,
he's like recalling going to being in

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his home and looking at his children
laying in their beds as he sneaks off

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into the night with his little replica
ship. Yeah, and I thought that

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was interesting, like when we talk
about like how sometimes we think one thing

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is the problem, but in actuality, the problem's deeper than that. And

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I think it's pretty significant that he
loved his family to do this. Yeah,

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and he Steve carries a lot with
him, and he's as outwardly as

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a character, Like he's so like
optimistic and positive chipper. Yeah, he's

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got a lot of baggage with him. Yeah. I think they all do

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in their own ways. But we
we definitely because Steve is like the main

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character. His is more fleshed out
and obvious to us. Yeah, we're

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exploring that a lot more. Astral
Queen, who was the standout character in

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the episode? All right, who's
your astral Queen? I've got a feeling

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we're going to pick the same person. Oh yeah, it's going to be

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the same as last week. Yeah, so aland please step forward again again

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with those crocs you queen. Yeah, I mean, I hope not that

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picks the same character every time,
but it is all the want in my

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favorite character. Maybe I'm starting to
realize that. But he is the one

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that again like kind of saves the
day and like stops them from being executed

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by the tribe, and he makes
a difficult decision to go somewhere where death

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is certain versustaining somewhere where it is
comfortable and you are welcome. Yeah,

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he follows his heart. Yeah,
and we award that here. Yeah.

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Yeah, that is my astral queen
as well. Yeah. So I hope

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that we're not always picking the same
character. Yeah, but maybe it will.

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I mean, if you keep rocking
it, you just are the queen.

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Yeah. I'm not going to change
my vote just because of you one

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before. So I'm taking it episode
by episode and going with what I believe.

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So that will wrap us out of
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All right, Quoe, do you
think the damned Man is because Lucia

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seems to be the most damned in
this in this like ending and knowing what

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I know about what's the lucious storyline
and arc, he's definitely a damned man

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maybe. I mean, I just
don't know if they'd name the episode after

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that when I was kind of the
b story. Yeah, So, like

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why would Steve be the damned man
because of like the it's like he's damning

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himself with his guilt? Yeah?
Or is it because he's being followed by

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Blackbeard? But like at the end
of the day him Blackbeard hook Cook and

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he ends up breaking Blackbeard's heart.
So, but I don't know if they

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know all this yet, like in
the writing room, do they like this

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is something that I always think about
when after I watched the show, Like

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did they know where this was going
the whole time? Yeah? I mean,

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at least like benchmarks. I'm holding
off on some of the trivia just

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because it will spoil things. But
you know this is the spoiler section.

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Yeah, I know, that's what
I'm about to talk about. Okay,

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okay, go ahead, But so
you know, he the reason he got

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involved was because like the romantic storyline
between him and Steve would be like the

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reason to do the show. He
wanted to play a gay character. He

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thought that's what made like the whole
story worth telling. Hmmm, that's why

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he's a producer too. Yep.
Okay, So the queerness is the heart

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of it for a lot of it. Yeah, okay, I'm so excited.

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I love that part. So I
think it is an active choice that

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these first few episodes don't dive too
deep into that, and they're just kind

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of establishing this world. But they're
like outing pirates. Yeah, they're like

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pirates are gay. But it's like, for me personally, it was such

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a slow burn that I was shocked. Yeah, in a positive way.

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I was so excited. You might
think that, like this is going to

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be kind of like queerbaiting, that
they're just going to kind of tease this

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idea that they're into each other and
never actually act on it, right,

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because a lot of shows do that. They're like, oh, they're great

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friends, such great pals. Yeah, they're so close, they're roommates,

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but for them to act on it
to move forward into this like love Affair.

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It's so good. It's so good. I was so sad when they

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canceled it. I really But I
guess it ends well. If this is

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the ending, that's the silver linings. Like it did have like a lot

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of closure the ending. Yeah,
like the ending, like it's still open

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to where if they were to come
back, we can we can learn about

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how the characters have grown. But
like, I just wanted to see them

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together more because you barely got it. Like it's it's very like, I

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don't know. There's moments where,
like particularly in the episode where they go

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into the fancy boat and Steed is
teaching him about how fancy people use passive

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aggressive like behavior to be bitchy at
each other, and he shows him how

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like polite society engages in warfare.
Basically that their relationship really gets cemented in

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a lot of ways, And I'm
so excited to see that. Yeah,

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that's a that's gonna be a fun
episode coming up. Yeah, a lot

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of guest stars too. Yeah is
he hands we met him. He becomes

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a pretty big character through the show, and he's also a gay diva.

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He used to have a relationship with
black Beard. They have a love hate

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relationship. There's a reason he follows
Blackbeard and and he loves him so much

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that he destroys himself for him.
And then there's also when they make like

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the bitch wears makeup like a bitch, like, oh my god, Like

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even in this episode there was like
a little star on the cheek, like

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very coquette. Yeah, he's he's
such an interesting character in the show,

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and most of the time he's a
fucking asshole. Yeah, and I think

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part of that is because his love
is not reciprocated in the same way Blackbeard.

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Doesn't love Izzy the same way that
Blackbeard loves Steed Bonnet, and he's

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jealous of that and he acts out
because he doesn't receive the type of love

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that he deserves. Rightfully, is
all we all deserve. And so that's

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like the tragedy of Izzy. Yeah. So, like having seen his full

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arc, I was excited to come
back to see see that from the beginning

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because again, like we've met so
many characters. Yeah, and it's like

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it was a lot to keep track
of on the first watch. So yeah,

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now Izz, he's on the radar
and he's you know, he has

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a grudge against Steed already, just
for like the stile interaction that they have.

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But like once Steve and Blackbeard becomes
entangled, like he really does not

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like Steve, Oh he hates him. Yeah, but he teaches Steve a

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lot about being a pirate. Yeah, and then the crew eventually comes around

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to accepting him and showing him that, like he's a valued part of their

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team and a purse, like a
valuable person because they're Yeah, we'll talk

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more about it for sure when it
comes up, like the aftermath of Steed

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and Blackbeard's breakup and how like toxic
black Beard is Toozy specifically is horrible,

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and I'm not looking forward to that
part. I like the beginning, you

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know, when there's love and like
so much potential just brewing of this like

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love and sexual tension. I love
it. I love that. I don't

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like the breakups and the sadness.
Well they won't they kind of thing.

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I don't know. I'm excited.
Yeah, we met Fang and Ivan two

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who stick around. Thing is so
cool. Yeah, I like I didn't

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remember like things origin that he came
from black Beard's crew, so I was

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wondering where he was in the crew. He's a really great actor. And

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I think he's also in that new
movie by Taiko Hye t Ti The Who's

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Keeping Score or Next Goal Wins or
something yep. So I'm excited that he's

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doing more work and hopefully we'll see
more of him because he's really funny and

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there's like a genuineness about him as
a character and as an actor that we

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don't get to see on screen a
lot because he's like an older like brown

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man who's also like heavy set.
That's not your typical actor that's like a

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background actor if anything, but even
background actors like are hot and sexy actor

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people. But yeah, and he's
also a very like emotional character. Yeah,

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he gets space for that when he's
with the Steed Screw. Yeah.

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I think that's all we got,
right, Yeah, I think that's it.

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And that an episode as an episode
that was some spoilers, and so

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we'll be back next time for the
episode A gentleman pirate, thank you for

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sailing on the Revenge. Try not
to run your ship aground. Yeah,

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