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For members only. Golf Smarter number
three hundred and forty two, published on

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July seventeen, twenty twelve. Welcome
to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance

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to gain insight and advice from the
best instructors featured on the Golf Smarter podcast.

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Great Golf Instruction Never gets old.
Our interview library features hundreds of hours

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of game improvement conversations like this that
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The regular golfer, they don't have
the time to practice. A professional

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golfer that's his whole life practicing,
getting in chave, being disciplined, and

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things like that. But you always
have time to work on your mental game,

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whether you're at work or whether you're
commuting. If you start understanding your

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emotions, what affects your mental gain, Like when you're driving, if it's

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traffic, if you're getting angry,
that's a great opportunity to work on your

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mental gain. Hey, I have
a fact there's traffic, I'm getting upset.

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This is a good chance to work
on my mental gain. And there's

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countless timestar in the day. When
you run across the negative emotions. Most

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people just accept their negative emotions during
the daytime because it doesn't affect their performance

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as quickly as it does on the
golf course. More of the mental keys

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to improve your golf with Michael Anthony. This is Golf Smarter, sharing tips

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and insights from golfers and golf professionals
to help lower your score. It's worked

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for your host, Fred Green.
Welcome back to Golf Smarter for members only.

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Michael, Hi, Fred, how
you doing today? I'm doing fine.

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It's interesting. We recorded our first
episode before the US Open and here

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we are a couple of days after
the US Open and not something. You

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know, I don't spend a lot
of time talking about the PGA Tour.

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I don't have the resources, but
I have a television and I think the

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majors are a different story. And
the fact that it was right here in

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the Bay Area, where you and
I both live, it makes it kind

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of fun. Did you get a
chance to go out there at all?

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I didn't get a chance to go
out there. I was pretty much glued

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to this, you know, screen
watching, watching everything was going on,

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and you know, all of a
sudden, my girlfriend came in and she

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says, oh my god, I
left my wallet, my purse and blah

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blah blah. So of course I
had to come to her rescue and I

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miss I think the last four holes
and when I left, h you know

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web Simps, then he was one
shot behind, and when I came back,

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you know, he was kissing the
trophy. Well, you know,

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I guess that's the difference of between
having a wife and having a girlfriend.

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A girlfriend you were going to jump, and a wife you go, there's

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only three holes left. I'll be
there in a minute. I'll be there

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at an hour. Well yeah,
you missed it. And it's funny because

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I had I applied for credentials to
go to go to the Open and didn't

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receive them, and was debating with
one of my son's NonStop shall we go?

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Should we not go? Should we
go? Should we not go?

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He ended up going to one of
the practice rounds and on Monday, I

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luckily, I've been too work wise, I've been too busy. I couldn't

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get away, and every day someone
was calling me, going, you want

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to go today, I'm like,
I can't, but I'll tell you I've

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been to professional golf tournaments and I
know people are gonna be kicking me for

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this one, but I've been to
professional golf tournaments and I just think it's

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better on television, just like football. I had no interest in fighting the

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crowd. I like to go to
the bathroom when I want to go to

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the bathroom. And as I've talked
about multiple times to me, when you're

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at a professional golf tournament, everything
is happening somewhere else. You have no

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idea what's going on. So I've
been to plenty of them in the past,

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and I find out you missed so
much by being there. Yeah,

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you do. And I know I
know that the excitement of saying I was

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at the US Open, Well,
my son was there and he bought me

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a nice logo shirt, you know. So it's like, Okay, did

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you go. No. I watched
it on TV like everybody else, and

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it was awesome. But here,
so here's what happened. You're right,

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you you miss You're telling me what
happened. I want to set this up

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because prior to it to the Open, I'm doing YouTube's now you know,

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mental golf tips on YouTube, and
I was talking. I was talking about

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my one of my favorite subjects,
which is outcome versus process goals and you

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know, to win the US Open. That's the outcome, that's the big

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deal. But you know, it's
like to catch twenty two. If you

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want something, you can't have it. If you don't want it, you

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can have it. And people flew
sight of the process. If you do

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the process and stay totally in the
process, who's going to win the person

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who did the process better. And
I made a point that you know,

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you know Tiger, he had just
won the Memorial and he was really on

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fire, and the press was in
I was Tiger going to be back?

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And I basically made a comment that, you know, Tiger's extreme desire.

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He probably has more desire to be
successful than any golfer out there, you

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know, just by all the action
that he takes to get ready. And

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I says, his desire is so
extreme and he's so focused on the outcome

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that that may prevent him from accomplishing
it because it's going to keep him out

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of the process, keep him out
of the present. And sure enough,

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two days he was right there and
then he disappeared. And you can talk

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about jim Yorick. Now, yeah, well, Tiger, you know I

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know that like this kid Hostler,
the amateur who is just all the Ray.

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It's a pimple with a dimple.
Uh huh. He's a kid participating

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in the US Open and he's pimply
faced kid with braces. It's like,

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something's not right here. But he
had game, he was awesome. Yeah,

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came back and made a birdie.
Yeah. And I would suspect that

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he was all about the process.
And I heard that he worked with with

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Rotella, And it's like, why
should I be attached to the outcome because

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I'm here and there's no way I'm
going to win this thing. I'm going

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to do my best and hope for
the best. But you have guys like

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Tiger who are who is winning is
the only goal? Right? It's all

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about the outcome. It's not about
participating, it's not about being there.

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It's it's winning. Yeah. And
and is that for a competitive golfer?

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Is it wrong to want to win, to be focused on winning? No,

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it's just like I or is that
not the outcome? Well, there's

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two goals. The outcome is to
win and then the process are the you

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know, is are the steps that
take to win? And there are many

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factors that go into it. And
if you forget about the mental game,

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you're shooting yourself in the foot.
And the whole key of the mental game

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is to stay in the moment,
to stay in the present. And before

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you know the battle begins, you
say, okay, my game plan is

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to win. Now, how you're
going to win by staying in the present.

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And anytime you start, while you're
you know, playing, start focusing

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on the outcome. You you create
fear of losing. You're into the future.

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You're not into the president. When
you make a bad shot, you're

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angry. You're in the past,
you're not into the present. So in

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order to win, you have to
forget all about winning and stay in the

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present. It's to Catch twenty two. It really is. Yeah, if

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you want it, you can't have
it. If you don't want it,

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you'll have it. So like I
t tell, you know, guy going

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for gold medals like Tacker, you
know, you know, going for nineteen

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agers. I said, you know, nobody in the world's done this,

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and so you know, you don't
have much room for error, and so

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you you set your sights on the
outcome. But once you set your site,

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you put all the energy into the
moment. Well, it was interesting

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on you know, because he played
so well the first two days go into

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the week and Thursday and Friday,
the buzz everywhere was this is it right,

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We're gonna do it. He's there, And then he had a difficult

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round but didn't knock himself out of
play on Saturday. And then after the

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first four holes or even the first
five holes on Sunday, you can hear

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TVs turning off all over the country. Yeah, you just hear click click,

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click click. The signal kept getting
brighter and brighter and brighter as everyone

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was turning off their TVs because it
was like, oh well, then,

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I'm you know, Furick is not
the most dynamic personality, and Graham mcdoal's

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interesting. Yeah, I'll keep my
eye on him. But I went Tiger

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Jim for a couple of minutes now, like you were talking about that,

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you know, when you missed that
one shot, he just dropped his driver

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in frustration. Yeah, when he
when he I think it was on.

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He was just doing so well and
he doesn't show any emotion. He's just

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a stone face the whole time.
You don't know what's going on. And

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he hit a drive on sixteen.
I think it was that just hard hook

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left and he swung his club in
discuss he didn't slam it to the ground,

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but if there was a tree there, you could see he would maybe

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have wrapped his club around it.
And and you it was the first time

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you saw him somewhat emotional, and
you would think that, hopefully it's going

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to be gone by the time he
gets to his ball and saw that he

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had a way to save it.
But it just kind of spiraled down hill

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after that. And you know,
I don't want to use the choke word.

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Oh I just did, but but
it's it's so fascinating where a guy

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bogi's a couple of holes and it's
like, oh, he choked, Come

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on, he hit a couple of
bogies. Well, the timing was poor,

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you know, it was the wrong
time to hit a bogey. Yeah.

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I don't know if that's choking,
but he definitely was showing his emotion.

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And after he had one, he
put one over in the rough,

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the rough h near a bunker,
and and the ball just kind of went

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in a bizarre direction and he just, you know, got down practically on

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his knees and took the the shaft
of his club and bit down on it,

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you know, like and that was
just obvious. You so you can

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see that he was consumed with the
outcome at that point. Oh yeah,

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where because it was so close he
could taste it. I mean, that's

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the thing. He was so close. And that's when when you start getting

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so close, all of a sudden, your control over the metal game disappears,

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because you go into the future.
You get concerned about the outcome,

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and then there it goes. Let's
talk about the general golfer out there.

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You know, most of the golfers
listing, you know, to the show,

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having weren't playing in the US Open. So and you say, how

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does this translate, you know,
to you the golf right US is you

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know, it's common knowledge that most
golfers have a better practice game than when

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they go to play. They can't
take the practice game, you know,

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when they're playing around the golf And
the whole reason behind that is they stop

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thinking, well, the range,
you can miss the ball and you don't

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care. You hit another ball,
You hit another ball, you hit another

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ball. But as soon as you
go to play, you miss the ball,

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and all of a sudden, oh
my god, there goes a score.

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You go You're just totally consumed about
the outcome. Whereas on the range,

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you're just in the process. You
know, on the range, you're

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on a nice you're on a mat, you're on the grass. It's flat,

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it's you know, it's you know
mode grass. Yeah, all of

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a sudden you get on on the
course and you have uneven lies, you

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have hard pen, you have thick
rough. It's just so different. So

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I think what ends up happening is
you just start tensing up, you start

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gripping you know, the club harder, and you breathe faster. And the

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last time that I remember being attached
to my score during my round, I

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stepped up to the eighteenth hole going, all I have to do is bogie

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and I'm breaking eighty and I hit
my driving the water done. I was

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like, why did I even say
it. It's like you just don't talk

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about a guy pitching a no hitter
during the game. He don't do it.

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It's just amazing. It's so simple, you know, on the conceptual

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basis that, yes, it's simple, conceptually, no question about it.

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And then that's the question, just
like you know, doing one hundred push

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ups, the average person can't do
one hundred push ups, including myself.

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Now, is it hard? To
do one hundred push ups. It's actually

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pretty simple. If you just exercising
on a daily basis and you start increasing

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the amount of pushups to do,
you know, by one a week or

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maybe one or two a month,
it's just a matter of time until you

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can do one hundred push ups.
It's just the focus and the discipline.

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And it's well, Michael, that
sounds like you're being attached to the outcome

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there. Well, no, it's
not being attached to the outcome. You're

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focusing on getting to one hundred pushes. Well okay, Well that's first.

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You have to have an outcome goal. Ah, okay. Once you set,

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you go. Like I used to
swim to San Francisco Bay, you

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know, I swam Alcatraz, I
swam the Golden Gay Bridges and really,

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oh yeah, and it was a
piece of cake. I used to jump

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in the water. I remember the
Sunrise swimmers at six thirty morning. I

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was a member of the South End
Rolling Club down at the foot of Aquatic

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Park at Hyde Street, and we
would jump in Monday through Friday at six

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thirty summertime. Wintertime didn't make any
difference. We'd swim all or two every

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day. You know during the week
and during a week ends. You know,

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I'd still swim on Saturday and Sunday, and so I was in phenomenal

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shape. So the swim alcoatraz with
golden gay bridge was no big deal.

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And in those days, we weren't
using these wetsuits. No wetsuits allowed because

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they were for sissies. You were
your little speedo and a little bathing cap

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and that was it. Wow,
even during the dead of winter. And

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that's mental training. Need to get
yourself to jump in that water. You

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know when it's pitch blackout in January
and you know it's freezing holding for oh

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my god. But anyway, if
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would drown. There's no way I'm
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thing with the mental game. If
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time you catch yourself focusing on the
outcome, and a lot of times you

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do this after you played around the
golf, you critique yourself and like we

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talked before on the Golf Smarter you
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years ago. You know those tapes
we used to talk about the tape.

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You know how Star tips your brain
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past. And you're if you thought
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past, you're going to think about
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Look golf, you sit there and
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tape in the future the next time
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the outcome, I'm going to snap
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Let's get back into the present.
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or you know, change my chemistry
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the eighteenth hole when you said,
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it into water. You know,
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you didn't catch yourself after the round, you have to say the next time

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I play, I you know,
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I have to step away from the
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say, Fred, knock it off. You're thinking about the outcome. Let's

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get back into the present and just
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deep breasts, exhale, get into
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ball. But you've got to do
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it becomes instinctive. Makes sense,
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again, and we're going back to
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it's in reality. It's a question
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Most people have very weak desires.
Unfortunately. I mean, I don't want

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to get on the soapbuck to look
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Most of them are abese. They're
overweight, right, you know, it's

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not too hard to get not to
be overweight. All you do is stop

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stop beating so much and start exercising
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but most people don't. Discipline is
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Before you're gonna have discipline, you
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Once you have desire, you set
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then you start doing the process.
And that's what That's what life bulls down

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to, That's what golf balls down
to. That's what all sports boil down

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to. Doing the work, go
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the results, take care of themselves. Nice forget about winning. You know.

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We did a We had an episode
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and eleven, episode number two hundred
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okay, two hundred and seventy four
with Mel Soul. Are you familiar with

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Mel Soul played the South African PGA
Tour PGA Professional and his whole thing is

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NATO golf and Ato not attached to
outcome NATO golf. Yeah, so you

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know, it's not like you're the
first person. We're the only person talking

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about that. Is this is the
basic rule? Right? Yeah? Everybody

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knows that, but nobody does it
right. And you know, and I

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always always say, if you know
something and you're not doing it, you

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don't know it, because if you
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up at the end of the last
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this, and that would be personality
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personality types, especially in golf but
in life in general, and they manifest

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themselves in different ways on the golf
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not. How do how does that
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recognize as the different personality types or
does this not play into your teachings?

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No, it plays totally into the
teaching. Really, you go back to

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the tape. You know, your
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You know, while you're still in
your mother's room. It'll record everything through

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your entire life. And some people
have different set points. Now, for

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some reason, people respond, they
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particular set point. You know,
it's on their particular tape, and that's

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they call them a personality, a
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your personality type is just a reflection
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your tape. I've done a lot
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with athletes, not only just golfers, but you know, boxers, weightlifters,

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football players, you know, you
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into the emotions. And I always, you know, once I explain the

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tape, and I said, your
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it, it throws your chemistry off
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then I'll ask my point out the
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and fear and hates a strong word, but just say anger and that

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out of those four things, fear
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that comes up vast majority of the
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up. And so you could talk
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to personality type that gets angry at
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and other people at Jim Puoric.
It takes a lot to get him

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angry. But he got angry because
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if with a Rory Sabatinio, you
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if he starts missing the outcome,
you can just start counting, Okay,

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how many more misses before he starts
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a green, or starts cussing.
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he's winning, he's coolure And so
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tour, and the vast majority of
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and there's several of them that are
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been so much converse, so much
talk about the intimidation factor the Tiger when

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he is on not only does he
have he must you know, love possessing

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it. That when he starts to
make his move, will when he when

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he was making his move and he
had the lead on Sunday, it would

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be an intimidation element to everybody on
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that work for yourself? How do
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do you avoid being intimidated? You
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first one is you have to understand
that your your nervous system, you know,

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is a combination of neurons and then
biochemicals. Neurons and biochemicals, so

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your nervous system is actually an alternating
current. All alternating currents create an electromagnetic

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field, which are infinite in nature. When you're dealing with somebody like Tiger

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was who is super super confident,
his electromagnetic field is so strong that anybody

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around him can pick up on it, and if they feel it, you

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know, it just starts. If
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field, they've had it. There's
no way they're going to combine it.

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The only way you can combat it
is just basically acknowledge it. Okay,

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this guy has a superior talent than
I have, and the only prayer that

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I have of beating him is to
get into his mind. He's confident,

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but all I want to do is
just play him even because if I can

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play him even, I'm going to
create doubt in his mind. And to

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explain how this could work in a
different sport, to make it easier to

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visualize. I was working with the
boxer at one time. It was a

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lightweight, left handy, left hander, and he was really good. He

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was fast. He was like a
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Muhammad Alan. And he would say, yeah, I get into these

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fights and when all of a sudden, these guys start coming after me with

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all they have, and I would
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what you're talking about. He was
so good. He would start beating the

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guy and the guy was going down. He knew that if he didn't come

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back, you know, he was
history. Rudy pretty much would win the

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match. So the guy would come
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courage, because you know, when
your life's on the line, you use

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all the energy that you have at
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when somebody does that, that means
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Just play him even, let him
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after a while, after he gets
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he's going to say, oh my
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my power, and this guy's still
playing the evening I said, then step

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it up and he'll wilt, just
like that, he says. Michael,

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it's a miracle. He says.
It works every time. And that's the

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same thing. If you're playing against
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can do is say, I'm going
to play the guy even till I can

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put doubt in his mind, which
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as soon as you put doubt in
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used to say, the devil's greatest
tool is doubt. You put a doubt

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in the person's mind, they can't
perform as well. Interesting. Yeah,

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it really does. It's very interesting
too, putting doubt in someone's mind.

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Just play with him, I mean, just stay with him, or stay

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one step ahead of him. But
then it'll affect how they performed. Let

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me tell you tell you a good
example. I used to be really good

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at playing you know shuffleboard, barroom
shuffle board where you throw those little pucks

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down the table. Yeah, And
one day I was playing. I don't

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play too much anymore, but there
was just like the short game of golf.

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I was really good good. I
mean, I was like Tiggerwood's the

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shuffleboard table. And this one guy
showed up and he was a really good

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shape, you know, a little
bit bigger than me. And I said,

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oh my god, this guy's pretty
pretty awesome. You could feel his

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energy. And so we played.
It was a tough game, but I

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ended up beating him. And after
it was over, he said, oh,

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he says, let me buy you
a drink. I said, okay.

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He says you intimidated me, and
I don't get intimidated. I said,

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well, what do you mean.
He said, well, every time

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you made you you played, whether
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your attitude never changed. He says, nothing ever affected you. And

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I said, well, thank you
very much. I said, well what

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do you do. He said,
well, I'm my coach wrestling. And

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he said I'm also the lead man
for a swat team. And I said

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wow. I said, well,
what does a lead man for a swat

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team do He says, I'm the
first guy through the door, and I

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got to take out my man on
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And I said, well, do
you ever have any fear? He says

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no. I said, well,
I'm a mental trainer. I says,

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how do you get over the fear? He says, it's training, training,

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training, training. You train so
many times that you never ever think

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about getting shot. You're so focused
on doing your job, doing the process

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that you never think about the outcome. And I said, do you ever

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have any fear? He's the only
fear I have is that my partner,

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you know, doesn't take out his
men, you know. And he says

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other than that, he says no. And so it's the same thing,

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whether it's being the lead man of
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basketball, selling everything, it all
comes down to the mental game, and

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people don't put the time into understand
it. Mostly. It's interesting that you

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Yeah, it's interesting that you say
selling. Now, all of a sudden,

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we've we've gone beyond sports and and
getting into you know, our professional

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lives because we're not professional athletes.
That's our passion, right, How do

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you approach because again, especially selling, it's all about outcome. Yeah,

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I want to sell a lot of
books. I want to Yeah, right,

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I want to sell. I want
to increase my my revenue stream.

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I want to increase my commissions.
It's all about selling. Yeah, how

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do you do you work with people
like that? And how are you able

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to help without talking about the outcome? You always have to talk about the

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outcome to get your goal. You
know, don't forget you know, you

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don't forget about the outcome. You
say, Okay, this is my goal.

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I want to win. I want
to sell. I want to whatever

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the outcome is. And once you
set your sites and you say, okay,

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now what processes do I have to
do in order to accomplish that?

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And it's just like in selling,
the whole goal is it's it's you know,

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see, business has a distorted values. They're all about making money.

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They don't care if they're doing a
good job or a bad job. They

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want to know am I making money? And I say that there are some

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businesses that are really good. But
from my experience, I try to take

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my program into the business world years
ago and I left it because it requires

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total honesty. Business would rather make
a buck than be totally honest. And

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I challenge any corporation out there they
want to put my program in, they'll

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have to take a look at their
product line. Either you're benefiting your customer

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or you're not. And most people
are more concerned how can I make more

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money and get away with shaving my
products value and still have enough value to

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please my customer. So from that
point of view, I sound kind of

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cynical. It's just I'm repeating.
I'm just reporting the facts of life that

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are out there. And but but
if you find a good product that you

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can you can that provides benefit,
it's an easy thing to sell. All

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you have to do is go in
and start talking to the prospect and explain

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to them why they're going to benefit
from it instead of being you know,

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and they and their big thing is
they're afraid of making a mistake, and

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so you have to overcome their fear. And if you think about their their

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best interests, I'm here to help
you. And like solar, Solar is

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a very interesting thing. It's really
hot right now and it's very beneficial.

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You pay your utility bill on your
PG and e yes, okay, now,

409
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.279
if you stop your tilly bill,
they cut off your electrizy, right,

410
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.359
yeah, right, Okay, what's
your average utility bill a month?

411
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.359
Only? Oh, I'm not even
gonna go there. Okay, let's say

412
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it's two hundred dollars. I will
say that it went down fifty bucks last

413
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month because I installed Nest in my
house and they now carry at the Apple

414
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store. If you have not checked
out Nest dot com and get a learning

415
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.519
thermostat, that's my outside of golf
tip for today. Check out the learning

416
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:37.079
thermostat Nest Nest dot com. Awesome. Okay, so yeah, pgn E

417
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.359
bill interviewing. You know, if
you really take a look at the technologies

418
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:48.240
advanced so far that you can actually
put in a solar system for less money,

419
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.480
you know, financing it than what
you're paying your utility bill. Let's

420
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.279
say your tilly bill is two hundred
dollars and it costs you seventy five dollars

421
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:57.839
to finance. To think, so
you're putting one hundred and twenty five dollars

422
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:03.839
into your pocket every month, you
know, and hey, that's you know,

423
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.839
that's a great thing. Pleasure.
You're helping out the economy. And

424
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.319
so a salesperson, all they have
to do is overcome a person's objective.

425
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.039
They say, well, gee,
I can't afford it. I said,

426
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well, you pay PG and need, don't you. And they said yeah.

427
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.119
And I said, well, why
don't you just stop paying them and

428
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.799
get yourself a solar system, pay
the solar and the and the money left

429
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.079
over, you know, buy groceries
with it, or take your way to

430
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:27.880
you know, to a movie or
whatever you want. You know, so

431
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:32.799
you're throwing money away. Now,
that's the very simple product to sell,

432
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:38.039
as long as you're strong and you
and you overcome a person's objective. It's

433
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.920
what they're what they're doing. They're
saying I can't afford it. They didn't

434
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.759
spend the time to find out they
can afford it, and they're better off

435
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.160
doing it than not doing it.
It's a battle of wills, and if

436
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.079
you're a strong sales person you can
explain that to them. Yes, I

437
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.160
understand. However, did you look
at this, it's it's all mental.

438
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:03.240
Life is mental. I've been accus
is being mental, but that's something else

439
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:15.000
all together. What sports have you
encountered that this topic is just not as

440
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:22.519
important as it is. In golf
at the high level, there's it's it's

441
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.240
discussed quite a bit, is that
right? Oh yeah, just because once

442
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.440
you get to that level, at
a high level, I guess once you

443
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.640
get there, the talent level talent. Yeah, once the talent level is

444
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:40.200
at a professional, high end,
major league type level, I would think

445
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:45.720
that there's very very little that separates
the goods from the greats. That's that's

446
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.119
you're correct, And it's all mental, just like a baseball really you know,

447
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.079
like you know why Cy Young winner
one year and all of a sudden

448
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:57.119
I have a hard time winning the
next year. Does talent disappear? Mental?

449
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.319
Yeah, you know, so air
resport, when you get up to

450
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:06.559
the high level, it's all mental, you know, unless you have certain

451
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.559
god given talents. But even still, god given talents don't win all the

452
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.160
time because some people, you know, take you know, get in there

453
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.920
and the god given talent talent person, you know, he chokes, he

454
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.160
starts thinking about the outcome, he
gets out of his game. But the

455
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:27.960
best ones always get into the process. Michael Jordan, he was totally into

456
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.880
the process, you know, And
you know, people do miracles, you

457
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:36.079
know, just like golfers, Like
when Tagger was in the role he was

458
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:42.640
in the process. And but you
know, just you just like the regular

459
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.160
golfer. The regular golfer, they
don't have the time to practice, or

460
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.720
they don't choose to take the time
to practice. But most of them just

461
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.880
don't have the time, you know. Like a professional golfer, that's his

462
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.920
whole life. It's practicing, getting
in shape, being disciplined, and things

463
00:32:55.039 --> 00:33:00.000
like that. But you always have
time to work when your mental game,

464
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.240
because whether you're at work or whether
you're commuting. You know, if you

465
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.799
start understanding it your emotions, what
affects your mental game and your tape,

466
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.640
you're going to repeat your emotions,
Like when you're driving, if it's traffic,

467
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.079
if you're getting angry, that's a
great opportunity to work on your mental

468
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.759
game. Hey, I got to
understand I have a factor's traffic, I'm

469
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.960
getting upset. This is a good
chance to work on my mental game,

470
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.680
you know. And there's countless times
during the day, you know, when

471
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:36.960
you run across negative emotions, and
most people they just accept their negative emotions

472
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.160
during the daytime because it doesn't affect
their performance as quickly as it does on

473
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.079
a golf course. But you can
practice your mental game all day long and

474
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.119
if you do. When it comes
time to play golf, it's really easy

475
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.920
to control your emotions. It's a
lot easier than if you don't. And

476
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.559
it gets harder and harder when you're
having you know, and golf is one

477
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.160
of those sports that you just don't
get better every day every time you go

478
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:10.760
out there, you and the range
of scores outcomes on any given day could

479
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:17.280
swing ten to twenty strokes. Right, yeah, you can. You can

480
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:22.679
go out like last time I played, shot in eighty one, today in

481
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.320
eighty seven, and and then it
right in between, I'll shoot a ninety

482
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:37.840
five. They just and once things
start consistently not and I try to,

483
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.039
you know, let it all go, let it all go. But then

484
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.880
I'll get to a spot where it's
like, you know, like, okay,

485
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:49.800
I've had five five really bad shots, not just holes, I mean

486
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:59.719
five bad holes. It starts,
the doubt rises and the frustration increases.

487
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:06.639
It's not so easy to break away
from that's how would you do that?

488
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.559
It's mental training. Bred you cannot
get it, get away from it if

489
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:17.000
you don't spend the time every day
working on your emotions, learning how to

490
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:23.000
you know, transfer your emotions from
negative to positive negative the positive or negative

491
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:28.400
to neutral. So when all of
a sudden you're having a bad day and

492
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.159
each shot gets worse and worse and
your chemistry gets down and down, you

493
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:37.800
just have to say, hey,
today's goal is to keep a good attitude

494
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.199
and not be negative, and just
play one shot at a time and don't

495
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.000
care about the score, because today
we're all about the process, and the

496
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:51.280
process is to play this with a
good attitude. I love that. I

497
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.719
love that because you know, it's
like before every round, you should you

498
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:58.440
should agree with your playing partners.
Okay, here's today's rules, right,

499
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.280
here's our rules today. You know, anything inside of two feet pick it

500
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.840
up. If you find a ball, it's yours, or you know,

501
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:07.840
any rules you want to make.
As long as everyone agrees on those rules,

502
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.840
then you're fine. But I think
you have to agree with yourself.

503
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.840
Here's how I'm going to You know, I don't know what's going to be

504
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:21.079
the outcome of today's game. I
don't know. I know that I want

505
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:23.599
to perform well. But if things
don't go well, I have to agree

506
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:29.199
with myself. Got to let it
go. Don't get worried about it.

507
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.719
You know how many times have we
had bad days like that and feel like

508
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.119
you want to just walk off,
of course, and then just I quit.

509
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.960
I don't care. Let me just
finish these four or five holes,

510
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.840
and I'm done. I want to
go home. And all of a sudden,

511
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.079
those four or five holes everything starts
to work again. Mm hmm.

512
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:49.320
Yeah. And you know we talked
about sales earlier. It's it's the same

513
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.400
thing. And earlier in my lifetime, I used to do a lot of

514
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.960
selling, you know, I was
developing my program. I would work with

515
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.880
the athletes for free, and I
would go out and like time, get

516
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.519
jobs, you know, selling them. I was really really good at selling

517
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.559
if I had a product, I
believed that. And some days you go

518
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.000
out there and you'd be out there
and knocking on doors. You knock on

519
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.920
one hundred doors and no, no, no, no, no no.

520
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.119
Other days you go out there,
you couldn't knock on one hundred doors because

521
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.679
the first twenty said yes, yes, yes, and you were too busy

522
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.519
writing up to the orders. You
never got to do one hundred things.

523
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:22.559
And so why is one day miserable
and the next day it's so successful.

524
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.480
But you got to keep the same
attitude. You can't get too high.

525
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:28.480
You can't get too low. You
know, it's all numbers and they all

526
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:30.280
balance out at the end of the
day or at the end of the week

527
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.920
or at the end of the month. You know, baseball players, for

528
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.079
example, the hitters, if they
have a rule they look at ten bats

529
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.119
in a row. During ten bats, if they had zero for ten,

530
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.079
that's over with. They start fresh
on the next ten. Then if you

531
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.119
get five for ten, that's shooting
five hundred. So they figured, okay,

532
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.599
we got five for twenty, that's
two hundred and fifty. And so

533
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.840
that's how they keep their sanity.
They don't. They just and it's the

534
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:59.440
same thing when you're playing. You've
got to understand that my attitude comes first,

535
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.719
to school comes second. And if
you can learn to control your attitude,

536
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.880
no matter whatever happens out there,
you're going to find out you consistently

537
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.960
shoot better lower scores and the spread
is a lot smaller. You're not going

538
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.400
to have a twenty, you know
shot spread. You may have a ten

539
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.199
shot and then if you can start
working, then you'll come into a five

540
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.639
shot spread. But it all comes
down to, you know, how much

541
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:29.239
energy you put into mastering the present
moment, and you know, I have

542
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.079
my four step routine that we talked
about. You know, smarter, you

543
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.360
know golf, it's the basic you
know, instinct. Having said this for

544
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.679
a while, so we got to
think for a second again. Feedback,

545
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:45.599
relax, preparation, instinctive execution.
And so after the shot you have a

546
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.280
look, chance to look at the
feedback. Okay, what happened? Good,

547
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.119
bad, and different? And then
once you learn from the feedback,

548
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.079
you see, okay, I've got
to relax. That's history. Let's get

549
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.480
back into the presence. So you
relax. Then as you're approaching the ball,

550
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:04.159
you start pairing yourself with a good
attitude and what's the distance, what

551
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.280
is the lie? What is my
colt? You know, this plan of

552
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.519
attack, and then you step up
and you don't think. You hit the

553
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:14.599
ball instinctively and then feedback what happened. And if you can do that on

554
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:22.000
every single shot, your attitude stays
consistent. And that's all you can control

555
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.039
is your attitude. You can't control
the golf shot. No, Sometimes I

556
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.800
like to play like in like you're
saying a baseball player and doing ten at

557
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:35.840
bats and then move on like I'll
play in groups of three holes. Okay,

558
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:37.280
I want to play. I want
to see if I can just play

559
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.719
it one over on these three holes. And I know that I'm already saying

560
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.559
that I want to be part of
the outcome. But if I just break

561
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.719
it down, it seems to be
easier and I can also let go of

562
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.400
things. It's like, okay,
I'm done with that now I'll move on.

563
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.599
But I should just do that hole
by hole. I guess, well,

564
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.559
you know that that gives you good
range because you're playing with three holes

565
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.039
and that's my outcome goal. But
how do you accomplish it? You do

566
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:04.920
it one shot at a time,
and at the end of the you know,

567
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.079
you know, three rounds, you
take a look, Okay, now,

568
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.199
how good was I with my mental
game? Did I play one shot

569
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.000
at a time? Or was I
worrying about, you know, shooting two

570
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.800
over and you know as I was
playing, yep. And then then what

571
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.480
is good about that is that you
had a chance after three holes to get

572
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.400
some feedback to see how well you
did with your mental game and then play

573
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:29.679
the next you know, three holes. Awesome, and then you can learn

574
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.639
from that and say, okay,
let's play the next three holes. And

575
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.280
as you do this, by the
time you played you know, nine holes,

576
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.039
your mental game is starting to really
get into shape. And I always

577
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:44.800
tell people if you play par you
know for the first fifteen holes and then

578
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.199
you burned you the last three,
you know, you're shooting a pretty good

579
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.239
score. Yeah yeah, so why
worry about shooting par? You know,

580
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.159
and say them, I should you
shooting? Miss this here and I missed

581
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:59.199
this one there. Don't worry about
it, right, I said, they'll

582
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.719
come definitely. Don't worry about it
because then you're gonna start freaking out.

583
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.400
Oh my god, I haven't made
a mistake in a while. It's a

584
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.239
case of death. I mean,
I was caddying for for one guy,

585
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.960
you know, he was in Greening
regulation first, you know, nine holes

586
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.800
in the he was at par and
he said, my god, I should

587
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.119
be at least three under by now. I said, shut up, I

588
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:22.559
said one shot at I said,
knock it off. And so he ended

589
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:27.760
up, you know, making six
birdies on the last night. Wow wow.

590
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:32.159
And that wouldn't have happened if he
didn't keep his cool. I would

591
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.840
love to be there here to caddy
say to somebody, shut up, you

592
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.480
know you got you got it.
Knock it off, I said, knock

593
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.679
it off. You know, your
your anger is getting to you. Yeah,

594
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.679
I said, what's wrong with you? Don't you listen to what I'm

595
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.760
telling you? And there I want
to throw this club and hitching ahead with

596
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.039
it. Yeah, you're probably not
shooting fifty nine today, so just relax.

597
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:59.760
Yeah, it's just it. But
it's amazing. But this program that

598
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.159
I have, the Mental Keys to
Improve your Golf, it works every time.

599
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.280
All they have to do is,
you know, read the material,

600
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.480
you know, get just get the
CD and just listen to it over and

601
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:15.440
over and then just pay attention and
to your mental game. Well that's a

602
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.360
that's a great segue there, because
I was just about to say. The

603
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:24.320
two books Metal Golf Tips and The
Metal Keys to Improve Your Golf Guaranteed to

604
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:30.840
Lower Your Score by Michael Anthony.
They're both available on the golfers Mart in

605
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:37.599
the Golfers Mart at golfsmarter dot com
and also though if you have not checked

606
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:43.880
out golf Smarter Tips, a year's
worth of five minutes six minute shows with

607
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:50.000
Michael we did like fifties two shows
or something. Golf Smarter Tips are still

608
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.280
available in iTunes and even though we
recorded them a couple of years ago.

609
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.880
They're still valid. I mean,
the points don't change, and the training

610
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.400
is all there and you can just
go through it. You can get a

611
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:07.679
CDs. You can go check them
out at mentalkeys dot com and also his

612
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.880
YouTube videos. Look up Michael Anthony
Mental Keys. Don't forget my CD using

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the Mental Keys to polish the wheel. That's powerful. Put that on your

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mark. Well, you know,
I this is the digital age. Nobody

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buys CDs. Sorry, Michael,
but when he stopped driving their car to

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the uh, you know, to
the golf course, you know I'll agree

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with you. Well, oh,
why you think people put in CDs?

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They don't hook people their iPod and
their and their iPhones and their Android phones

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and their blue tooths and see the
only way they can get it is to

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get the CD to downloaded into it, because that's the only only format that

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it's available in. Well, you
should make it downloadable. I haven't figured

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that Amazon hasn't set it up that
way yet. Yeah, I've tried.

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At least I do it from your
website. Well, on the website,

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it's just that's more complicated than that. Bread. I've just pulled everything out

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and put it into Amazon and other
distributors. Well, that's one of the

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better distributors you can have, no
question. Amazon's a good distributor. You

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know, your website's a good distributor. Oh, thank you. You know,

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it's really good. It's a pleasure
being here, you know, talking

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to you and talking to all the
golfers you know that are listening. You

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know, I do get you know, people come in they say I heard

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about you on the podcast, so
you know, so it's working. Awesome,

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00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.280
awesome, I'm glad to hear that. Well, thank you. Hey,

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it was great to have you on
again, Michael, it was.

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It's always a pleasure to speak to
you, even if we separated by a

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couple of weeks or a couple of
years, but it's always always great to

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hear from you again. Thanks so
much for coming back on the show and

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being on our members only podcast.
And it's my pleasure. Thank you. Fred