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Today, I want to tell you
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of bigfoot and wild men while spending
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Hey everybody, this is Less Driving. Yes, yes I know aka

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Survivor Man and you're listening to Brian
on Sasquatch Odyssey. Hey there, and

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welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank
you so much for joining me for the

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show. It is Friday. I
hope you're having a great week. We

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have an amazing guest lined up.
But as always, I want to start

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by inviting you. If you've had
an encounter and you'd like to be on

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the website check it out. We come

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remember there and help support the show. I got to sit down with Daniel

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Barnett and he is a fourteen year
old cryptozoologist over in the UK and he's

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been out in the forest looking for
Bigfoot and he has made some really miraculous

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discoveries, including probably the most significant
is some footprints that he collected e DNA

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from and had it sent off to
the lab and it came back with Old

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World Monkey and Great eight DNA.
When Daniel and I sat down. He

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had just got back from being out
in the field and he had just collected

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more DNA as well as here,
and I let Daniel tell you all about

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that in just a minute. He
is having an event tomorrow that if you're

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in the UK you can attend.
I think he's near Somerset, but you

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can also attend online. I've got
a link to that in the show notes,

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so you guys can check that out. I would love to have you

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be a part of his event and
support what he's doing over there. I

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think he's doing some really fantastic stuff. So without further ado, let's get

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into it. Daniel's on the line. He's ready to go. You just

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sit back, relax and enjoy the
show. I want to welcome my guest

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to the show. It is Daniel
from the UK. Welcome to the show.

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Daniel. Thanks. I'm glad that
we could reschedule this. I know

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you were under the weather the last
time we had this scheduled. I appreciate

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you working with us on the schedule
and coming back on the show. I

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have been excited to talk to you
about your research, so have I and

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I'm very glad to be here.
Let's get right into it. Let's talk

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about Bigfoot. You're a young researcher. You're only fourteen years old, so

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what guy you interested in Bigfoot as
a subject? To begin with? I

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was sut watching Expedition Bigfoot with my
granddad and my cousin, and we were

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just like watching normal TV. And
it was when I was just sut there

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going is this real? So I
turned to Gramps and said, Gramps,

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is this real? And he went, yeah, it is. I'm right

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stucking, I'm from there. We
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All I've done for the last five
weeks is Bigfoot. Talk a little

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bit about his answer. Did he
go into detail with you about why his

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answer was? Just because that's honestly
an interesting answer. Most people in that

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situation, in your granddad's situation with
tell their grandson, no, it's entertaining.

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There's a lot of cool shows about
it, but I'm not so sure

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it's real. Do you know why
he answered yes immediately? Has he had

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experiences or was it something that he
was interested in in some way? Me

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and Gramps are very similar. I'll
say I got sales about two years ago

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now, so I was around about
thirteen and I was old enough to know

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that it was something that was being
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take things very adult way and I
went, Wow, that's incredible. So

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my cousin went, that's not real. And I'll speak about him later.

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But it was then a new beginning
of watching everything. And it's like we

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met for kind of three four weeks, I think, just watching the program,

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and when it ended, we went, oh, when's season four going

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to be on? And we were
chatting about where it is, where it

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might be, and I think it
was just very open about it. He

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didn't really have an opinion, and
obviously we were working from there. Got

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just you're watching Expedition big Foot.
What is your favorite part about that show?

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I know it captivates audiences around the
world. People have their different things

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that they enjoy about it. I've
gotten to hang out with those guys Ronnie

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Maria very very jealous, and those
guys Russell the Cord is awesome. I

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can see the draw from the personalities
there, because they're just huge personalities.

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They're really cool people. But what
is it about the show show that really

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captured you? Was it their scientific
approach to it? Was it the way

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they got out into the woods.
Was it things that they were doing in

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the woods that really captivated your attention? What really got you into Expedition Bigfoot

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when you were watching the show?
So I think it was the mystery behind

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the show. And I know a
lot of people discredit Expedition Bigfoot and a

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lot of the shows, and I
get why because a lot of people think,

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why you capture in this one camera
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entertainment. My personal opinion, well, it is that they do it so

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well it's hard to discredit. It's
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Maria's side to it where she is
really on the scientific side. I also

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Russell's way of I'm going by myself
investigating a lot more. Ronnie's just an

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amazing person where he questions everything,
and I think they're a great team together

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with them Bryce handling it all.
I think it's just a brilliant way to

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do a show. Really, I
think it's really clever. Yeah, I

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agree with you, honestly, I
told you before we started recording, I

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don't really watch the show, but
like I said, I'd met Maria,

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Ronnie and Russell a couple of times
at different conferences, and things like that.

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And I tell you what really sent
me over the edge of being more

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apt to believe what was going on
the show was hanging out with Zach Hall,

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which is the cameraman that's always with
Russell that records, and Zach was

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very open about the experiences and how
real what they do actually is. Getting

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to know Zack and hanging out with
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have really pushed me towards the fact
that I think they're doing this for the

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right reasons. Everybody has their opinions
about the show. Some people have said

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that it's fake. I was hanging
out with Todd Standing a couple of weeks

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ago up in Radium and Todd was
really bashing Expedition Bigfoot Finding Bigfoot and talking

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about how fake the show. Again, everybody's got their opinions about it.

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I get that if you're getting something
out of it as a young researcher,

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I think that's really what the show's
all about. It's obviously for entertainment.

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It's television, so they have to
make things entertaining for the people who watch

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it. But for you, as
a young researcher, you're going out into

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the woods. Let's talk about that. A shift from Expedition Bigfoot to talk

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about Expedition Daniel. Because you got
out into the woods and started looking into

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this for yourself. Talk about what
that journey looked like. How did you

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first get out into the woods and
what kind of area were you going into

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and what were you finding. This
is where I switched back to my cousin.

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After an episode of Expedition of Bigfoot. I turned to my cousin William

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and said, I want to go
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go and do what they do.
Now, we were quite smart about this

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and we went we're going to gain
the experience first our local animal, which

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is there. So we decided Expedition
Deer. Let's go out, let's look

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for deer, let's research them,
look for footprints. So we did that

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for seven different episodes, and that
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and it was an incredible journey.
We found deer that were barking in front

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of us, and we found different
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we were experimented with trial cameras,
all sorts. It was just incredible.

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When we returned from Expedition Deer,
I went, there's only so many times

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you didn't go out and do the
same thing. Now, although we do

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have a good bit of land down
here. See, I'm right off of

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the contok Kills, which are a
massive area of forest, which is just

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incredible. Now I said to my
nan, who's my partner, and crying.

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We can't stop. But I did
say, let's switch. Let's now

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go to the exmal beast, which
is a big cat we have. Now

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we were going right, there was
a very low chance that we're going to

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find this cat. So I said, let's go and find where this cat

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may be living maybe eating. So
I picked the forest near a stream that

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we have running through where we live. Now, this forest is fifteen minutes

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from where I'm sat right now.
We went to the forest with the intention

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of just open mind. We didn't
even have bigfoot in our heads. Now

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this is where it just gets ridiculous. Is we were walking up this trail

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and we got to the trail that
goes down a ridge and he got two

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trees with a gap in the middle
and and goes, what's this. Now,

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I wish I hadn't turned round,
but when I did it, it

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was an eighteen inch footprint in front
of us. Now, that's just mad.

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Now I knew about bigfoot, I
was quite knowledgeable about bigfot I didn't

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think I would come across a footprint. Well, I looked at it,

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we got run out and went,
yeah, that's eighteen inches. I'm like,

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what's walking around Bethy has an eighteen
inch foot? No one? We

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make a cast with it, and
I decided to take DNA. So I

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took the DNA and went right,
I'm going to find someone that is going

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to test us for me, and
we're going to get result. Now I

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didn't have any intention of getting any
result. I sent off to a company

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called SGS. It took about six
weeks. Now, during that six weeks,

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we found bones, we found tree
structures, we found scat, we

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found more indentations. I sent off
about five samples and it got to last

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week. I'm like, you can't
do any more in this forest. Now

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it's about three mile fox, so
it's not big at all. There's a

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part of the forest where you physically
can't get into. It is three brambles,

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nettles, ferns, and you can't
get in. What's in there?

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I dread to think. But when
I got the DNA results back. I

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just froze, honestly, just froze. Now, obviously we had our typical

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pheasant. We had chicken, deer, wild boar, human DNA, which

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I shume came from US, squirrels, rabbits, badgers, your normals,

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normal woodland animals. Look, you
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I won't expected a lot of talk. I'll also say we had another hit.

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Now. I don't know if this
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dog walking area. It's not heavily
populated with dogs though. Now on one

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hit you had wolf and dog,
and on another one you had wolf and

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domestic dog. Now I'm like,
okay, that's a bit weird. Why

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is wolf DNA in print? I
don't know. Now, dogs could have

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just stepped the net. But this
was off a track. I'm like,

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okay, it's just something I'm going
to have to look into. But the

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main thing was the old world of
monkeys and great ape DNA. Let's talk

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a little bit about that. Because
I looked at one of the articles that

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you had posted on Facebook, and
I read some of the preliminary results of

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the DNA and I saw that immediately
my eyes lit up, and I started

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getting chills, honestly, because I
was fascinated with the fact that there was

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old world monkeys, as you said, and great apes that shouldn't be there

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in that area. Talk a little
bit about that. Did they give you

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any kind of an indication of how
that might have been or was it just

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here's your results, Daniel, Now
run with it and let your imagination run

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wild. What did you do?
Did you start digging into those types of

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DNA that they came back with,
and if so, what were you finding

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and what was going through your mind
when you were doing the research? So

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when the result came through, I
was trying my very best to debunk as

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fast as I possibly could, and
I couldn't. I honestly couldn't. Now,

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this is very highly unlikely that someone
from a zoom the nearest sooo is

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an hour away, is to come
down wearing the same boots that they wore

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in the zoo, which seems very
unlikely, and to take the shoe off

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and put it in the much.
I'm like, if it was, it

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would have to be a bit of
a looney for you and do that.

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That's just so I could almost say
I can all out that I can say

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it wasn't human. Now some people
have said and I can't say this.

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Sometimes human has a Grade eight DNA, so it can come off as that.

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But we don't have old World Monkey
DNA. That's just Matt. Now

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it's more than one hit. Now, we had other indentations that we collect

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edit from that came back as our
World Monkey. It's more than just one

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hit. Now. We have been
to that forest. I can't even count

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out at times. But the scary
thing is is it's only fifteen minutes from

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where I'm sat now. As I
said, we went out to a forest

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today where I had tracked where this
singer gone. I don't know if this

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sing is still here. I don't
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I do know that there has been
some sort of sighting in Wales very recently.

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But I do know what we found
today is we found a very large

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footprint, the same size as the
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And when I was taking the DNA
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orange that is brand new fresh investigations
that now I'm doing. But this can't

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get any bigger, Honestly, it
can't get any bigger. Because the piles

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and piles of stuff that we're finding. Now, in my mind, it

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seems ridiculous that we're finding something every
day. I'm like, this isn't us

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making up in our mind, It's
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I'll talk about later with Richard Freeman, one of the biggest cryptno zoologists here

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in the UK, and I showed
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went, holy crap, don't know
all the scientists. I've spoken to doctor

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Jeffrey maldrm spon to Amy Boo,
I've spoken to the big ones and they've

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gone, don't know. Not even
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and that just blows my mind,
honestly. With then the DNA,

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it striked me today when I went, if we can replicate these results in

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a forest five minutes down the road, that would be shute. If we

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could replicate primate DNA, I would
be able to fully say this thing has

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been moving very briefly through the area. We saw a lot of down trees.

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We saw loads of tree structures,
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so there could have been structures there, but I couldn't. We're up there

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for two hours and within two hours
we found a footprint and gained EDNA and

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gained a hair. Now that's an
ongoing investigation that I'm trying to get my

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head around. But so then,
have DNA in the past. I'm like,

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no one in the UK has done
this before, So why is this

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thing here? And how long has
it been here? And we haven't known?

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Now, not once have I said
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that I've said that it's anything.
I've said that it's weird, this doesn't

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belong here, and I think as
we strange, I'll say that it's definitely

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strange, for sure. I would
love to see any photographs that you have.

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I know people listening to this are
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of the footprints that you're talking about. But do your best, if you

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would, for me and the audience
to describe the type of foot. Are

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we talking a very humanoid type foot? Obviously it's big if it's eighteen plus

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inches, but talk a little bit
about the foot, How wide is it?

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How is it looking when you guys
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would say the track that we already
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about eight weeks ago, now had
sides and five distinct toes with then kind

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of indentations in it. Now a
lot of people can't see the footprint,

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and my god, met it's hard
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it closer, I go, no, that is something, And I keep

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going back to going, come on
this time, it can't be a fit.

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Now people are going, oh,
it's nothing. It's just now that's

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where the edi and egg came from, which is why I know it is

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something. And then the one we
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it was right on the surface.
But what it could do is it was

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it had rained quite a lot last
night, so I could really pick away

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the mud and I could really bring
those that EDI and A. Now,

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the weird thing about it is that
the hairs weren't on the top. They

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were ingrained into the bottom in footprint, which kind of indicates this thing would

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have added some weight on it.
It would have had some weight to push

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this in. It could have been
a deer, because deer have quite long

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hair. The brownish now, I'm
color blind, so I'm not one hundred

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per cent sure on the color side
of it, but I know that when

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Nan was stood next to me,
She went, I have no idea what

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that is. Ago. My best
job now is to try and get hold

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of a microscope to try and see
if I can say anything. Yeah,

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I'm definitely thinking the same thing.
I would love to have somebody that has

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some training there, maybe even a
veterinarian that could probably look at it and

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identify maybe what type of hair it
is, or at least tell you what

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it's not. I'm definitely interested in
that for sure. Let's talk a little

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bit about the tree breaks and the
tree structures. That's something that has come

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up. I found those here on
my property. I'm in North Carolina.

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Canada on my recent expedition up there. Obviously, tree breaks are very subjective,

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like most of the things that we're
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to say without actually seeing whatever pulled
the tree down and broke it, to

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say that it was anything to do
with sasquatch. And I'm very much like

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you. I've never said that,
but it's interesting because I've tried to replicate

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these, at least the ones that
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property, and I can get close, but it's just not the same as

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the tree breaks that we were finding. Particularly, I'll talk about the Radium

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expedition. Talk a little bit about
what are you guys finding very similar things

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as far as tree breaks, and
you talk about structures, talk about some

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of the structures that you guys are
finding. Are they TP like structures?

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Going to detail about what they look
like when you're coming across these structures.

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So obviously today we couldn't decipher anything
because it was just complete loads of trees

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down Now, obviously like scouts or
something would have been in there, but

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in the other forest there were distinct
ones. Now I have a story that

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kind of honestly frightens me, as
in not emotionally, just what is that?

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and we have to use rope to

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get down there. And this was
a fifteen feet tree structure with kind of

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a two branches going that way and
two branches holding in the middle. You

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would have had to use these to
hold these branches in. It was very

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weird. And a few days before
we found that, and I was with

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my cousin at that point where we
found that, I smelt something that was

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just horrendous. Gives me the indication
of hold on was something there when I

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was there when I found this structure
with my cousin now was all the way

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up on the top of the ridge
because she was with the stuff, because

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it's still a public borest. When
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a track that led into just fields
and it was probably five hundred meters of

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just ridge and then into the fields. So we were just having a look

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at the tree structure and I ran
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was taking with our very good camera. I didn't think even of it them.

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I returned home with the amazing tree
structure and I was actually on another

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podcast and I posted it on Facebook
to say what what I thoughts, and

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someone said, is that bigfoot?
I'm like what? I go on air

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and to my surprise, in the
background it was just a black head two

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errors, and I say to the
guys I'm on the podcast with, I

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need to stop a sec what is
that I have just found? And I

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look at it and go William to
that he was alone when he took that.

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That's scary that a boy that is
ten was down there alone with that

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thing. Now, it could have
been a shadow, it could have been

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the way the sun was because it
was setting. But we conn ignore that.

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So me and Nan go back a
few days later and I'm not place

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it, so she does and what
we realized we're looking at I level was

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twenty feet up a tree. Stay
tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

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We'll be right back after these messages. That is definitely crazy. I have

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not seen that photograph, so I
would definitely like to see that. Let's

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talk a little bit about the equipment
that you guys are taking out You mentioned

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your camera. What are the kind
of equipment are you guys taking out there

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on your expeditions. That's what I
always find fascinating. Some people are into

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thermals, some people are into audio
stuff. I'm more of an audio kind

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of guy because I work with audio
obviously on the podcast every day. What

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are you guys taking out there beside
your camera? What are you using as

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far as equipment, are you guys
putting out trail cams and stuff like that?

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Talk about the equipment there you're using. Because of the limited money that

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we do have now, although we
do have money, don't have enough to

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buy good equipment now from the National
Press. I got paid one hundred pounds

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and I went, we are buying
proper equipment now to start off with,

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Dad actually had a professional camera and
a video camera and a tripod. I'm

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like mine now. We started with
that, and I got like my bag

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and like some cheap stuff like tort
and for my birthday, I got tent.

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Now. We don't like camping tool, but it's good for a base

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camp during the summer when we're in
the forest and we're there for a day,

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it's good just to sit down.
And we've got camping chairs. And

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then well I got the cash.
I went, we're getting some proper EDNA

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stuff. So we have now test
tubes, tweezers, proper LATEX gloves,

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small bags to put the test tubes
in. We've got late now and I

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bought two trout cameras with my own
money. It's a good amount that we

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can go out and use it.
We bought a professional rope, just the

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basics you need really, so we
have a lot of cameras and then obviously

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the EDNA stuff. We now have
a bucket for plaster Paris. We were

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offered some free bags of plastra Paris, which I'm like, yay, So

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we have three free bags from there, So we have basic amazing equipment that

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you have. I'm hoping for Christmas
to have a normal drone now that is

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probably one of the most amazing pieces
of equipment you can ever have. I

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want to put that drone over the
forest where we found all the prints to

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see if there's anything there. Obviously, then a normal camera. I've got

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someone coming down next for with a
thermal camera. But the basics we have,

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which is incredible, sounds like it. I'm very excited for you guys,

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and I want to talk a little
bit about the latest stuff that you

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just found. The hair, the
other EDNA samples that you just took.

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Are you sending those back to the
same lab they're going to do more testing.

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Are you holding on to the hair
to see if maybe you can do

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a little preliminary stuff on your own. What's the plan for that evidence that

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you just collected. Obviously it's completely
brand new. I'm currently sitting on it

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for a minute. I have sent
an email. Now. Obviously they did

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the DNA free for us, which
is absolutely incredible. Now, whether they'll

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do that again, I don't know. I have sent an email to say,

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look, one more time, we
have some incredible evidence, because all

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I would need is number one.
If it comes about the same, We've

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got jack Bot there. This isn't
a mistake. They did offer to actually

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send us some DNA kits, so
we might actually do it ourselves, which

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will be amazing. Wise, I
have quite a lot of hair samples I

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still need to test. Luckily,
my mum is the senko at a local

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school, so I'm hoping to say, could you borrow a microscope for me?

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So I'm hoping to get a microscope
to see if we can get the

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hairs under there. Once I run
there and I think it's something, then

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send off the EDNA. If I
don't think it's anything, I might not.

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I don't know yet to answer that
yes, but I'm just going to

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try and sit on it for as
long as I can. Now, I'm

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not one for waiting. I'll do
it immediately. But there's a few things

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you've got to think about. First. Is there a chance that we're going

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to find something bigger? And if
there is, then we want to wait?

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Or is this big enough to send
it? It's a big question you've

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got to ask yourself. But is
am I feeling this is something? Or

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am I not? Is this worth
it or not? It's a big question

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that most adults can't really answer for
themselves. I am in awe of your

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thought process when it comes to this
stuff, because it is exciting when you

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find something, obviously, but to
do it in the right way, because

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you're thinking globally, right, you're
thinking outside the box, because this could

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be a huge discovery. In my
opinion, I think you've already discovered something

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pretty impressive just with the first e
DNA. Not very many EDNA samples come

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back anywhere with old world monkeys and
great apes. They're not supposed to be

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there, So that in of itself
is huge. And now to have the

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hair samples and the other EDNA,
just to have that thought process at your

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age, and I don't mean that
to be demeaning, obviously actually helps.

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Actually that a lot more people more
more understanding. Now. Some people are

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like, no, he's fourteen,
he can't. But a lot of people

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are like, he's fourteen, he
wouldn't make this ut up. No fourteen

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is asked to ever do this before, So yeah, let's help him.

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So actually, yeah, it's actually
a Pardi. It's great, and I

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think it was because of your age
that Amy bou reached out to me and

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said, hey, you should get
this this guy on your show. He's

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doing great work. And I love
Amy, she's a good friend of mine,

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so obviously I rowed you out and
said friend of mine, Yeah,

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let's get him on and talk about
this stuff. There's a whole lot going

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on here for a lot of people. Again that there's a lot of adult

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researchers out there don't approach this thing
the way that you're doing it. So

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I commend you and kudos for that. Let's talk a little bit about Obviously,

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you've gotten some press out of this. You've got some international press.

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We've been on the radar here.
How are you handling the notoriety. How

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have you been assessing that, because
that in and of itself is a whole

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nother layer to what you're doing.
Obviously, you just want to be in

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the woods doing your research, but
you're doing things like talking to me on

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this podcast, and tens of thousands
of people are going to hear you on

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here, and you've been doing these
press things and they've been writing articles about

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you. How have you been handling
that as far as the pressure that comes

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with that. Is it just something
you're taking in stride or has that been

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difficult for you. I really struggle
with school, Honestly, I could not

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stress enough how I'm not even in
school at the moment. I'm doing online

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lessons and obviously I'm in year ten, so I'm very close to my GSEs.

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So I'm owned doing English, maths
and science, and this is different

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universe for me now. I actually
contacted the news myself, and then Dad

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got involved and helped. So we've
been on national press here and I don't

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know about the US, but I
do know that I'm finding different people picking

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up the story every day. I
know Ronnie shed it on his page loads

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of times. So to answer that, all right, yeah, there's been

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a few issues that we've had,
but it's gonna happen. And obviously I've

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got a very big Bigfoot event coming
up next weekend, and We've got to

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be careful on who attends because now
I'm on national news and I am young.

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It can bring in people that we
don't want me myself on the news.

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I think it's incredible. I laugh
every time I find me on the

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news. Especially when I found one
day that I was on a picture with

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me and Patty from the Padison Gimmnam
film. That's just incredible, that's just

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amazing. But yes, I'm saying
it's yeah, it's good. That's a

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good thing. Danny and I went
back and forth with your dad Craig.

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He was great in helping it,
but he didn't really do a whole lot.

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He just said Daniel was perfectly capable
of setting up his own interviews.

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So we immediately shifted gears and started
dealing with you. But your dad's been

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great. So how is your mom
and dad handled that? Your nan and

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your grandfather, how have they handled
you getting into Bigfoot? Is that something

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that they're interested in? Are they
very supportive of your efforts? How is

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that going on in the family dynamic? So if I start with my dad,

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Jill, she is on top with
me the whole time. Now she's

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seventy two, I think or seventy
three, and she comes out in the

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forest every time me, and she's
very on board. Now, she did

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not believe in Bigfoot at all a
year Buck, I haven't believed in it,

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but I didn't know about it for
kind of two years. But when

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she got really interested was when we
were finishing expedition there and we started this

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new expedition and the podcast, and
she he got interested. Grumps is in

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noun. He doesn't really like being
on in front of people. Now.

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He has some traits of autism from
me, I sweart God, but he's

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way into it still and liked it. Dad doesn't really believe in the subject,

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but he is very on top with
me, very very on with me,

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and very into everything, into the
DNA and all stuff like that.

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And Mum is the same as well. She's interested in what it could be.

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She doesn't really know much about book
Foot, which kind of makes it

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hard for her, but she's still
very very much on top of it.

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Yeah, that's awesome you've mentioned it. Let's talk a little bit about the

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podcast. Let's shift gears and talk
about that. How did that come about,

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What can people expect when they check
out the podcast? And then I

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want to talk a little bit about
some of the people that you've interviewed.

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Absolutely so it's called Mythical Legends podcast. Now, I started there to gain

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more info about Bigfoot. Just before
we went out to the forest. I

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started the podcast. Now I've spoken
to some incredible people and it's one where

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I just started to gain experience about
it. Because I am young, there's

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a lot in my head and one
thing I will bring up is the Bigfoot

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event that I'm doing as well,
that I've brought a lot into it,

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and I am the youngest crypto zoologist
here in the UK. I don't know

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about the world, but I'm the
youngest here in the UK, which makes

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my name even bigger. It's amazing
and that's why people love it. On

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the podcast, people that I've interviewed, I started with Amy Boom and she

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is incredible. I chat to her
every other day. She's got advice from

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me and she's just incredible, absolutely
incredible. I've spoken to doctor Jeffrey Meldom

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twice and my Gramps was on for
that one and probably talked more than I

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did because that's his idol, absolute
idol. That he spoke more than I

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did, and probably more than Maldin
did. We did two parts with him

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that was amazing, but we've done
one with Doug Kiche. I'm actually planned

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to do another one with him soon. Kathy Strain and all sorts of just

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amazing researchers in the US and here
in the UK. That is awesome.

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Those are some of my favorite people
in the world that you've gotten to sit

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down and chat. I know you
got Ron moorehead on the show. Ron

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lives here in North Carolina and hung
out with him earlier in the year at

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an event. He's definitely a character. So let's talk about your event.

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We've mentioned it a couple of times. Let's get into the event. What

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can people expect, how can they
attend? Is it going to be an

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online thing and in person? Talk
about your event, how that came about

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and what people can expect when they
attend. Again, It's something my family

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don't let me get bored because because
when I get bored, I come up

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with new ideas. I phone my
nan immediately and go we're doing this.

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So I tend to keep myself very
busy. We started with a children's event

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in Purple Spoons Cafe here in Somerset, and we were meant to have one

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bigfoot researcher come and it was a
low key thing and it turned out to

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be a success, absolute success.
And I met a guy named Chris Alsford.

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He's another big for a researcher here
in the UK, and When I

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left that event, I went,
right, now, let's move on,

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and my dad went, maybe we
should do a few bigger guests, and

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he said, so let's leave it
for a bit. I went, okay.

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Two days later I'm like, no, I'm doing it now. I

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can't wait any longer. So I
was contacting Amy and that and we went

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it is too difficult to get people
over here at the moment, so we've

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decided to go over there next year
at some point for a conference, which

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I can't wait for. So I
then started going UK. Who's here in

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the UK? I have now ended
up with and different guests. I don't

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know if you've heard this of the
CFZ. They're a kryptos zoology company,

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and I've got the owner of that
to come to my event. I've got

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Richard Freeman, who I mentioned,
attending the event. It's here in Sunset,

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Burnham Hybrid Purplespoon's Cafe, and we've
managed to get a home that's for

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three yes, and it's Saturday.
We are also doing an online kind of

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meeting with Amy and Mike Ann.
I don't know if you've heard of Mike.

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He's a best friend of Amy as
well. We're having them on to

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do an online talk at one forty
five. We're also having an online talk

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with a young researcher here. He's
sixteen, and he's doing a talk at

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our event as well. All our
guests are doing talks, and we've got

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three people doing book signings at our
event, which is amazing. I've literally

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just had a message now say we've
got people coming with Bigfoot dioramas that they've

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created. I'm like, rollim all
right then, and I am planning to

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do an online screen. I haven't
confirmed that yet though, And I now

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hear that Bridgewater Mayor and burn and
Mayor maybe attending our event. Now I'm

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like, oh my god. It's
gone from being little to now a big

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Bigfoot convention. And we've still kept
children's stuff that I have loads of children's

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activities, factables. The cast will
actually be there and it should be a

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very good event, very busy week
for me though it definitely sounds like it,

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Daniel. I appreciate you taking time
out of your schedule and come on

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here. I will link in the
show notes for everybody who wants to check

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out all of your stuff. Obviously, we'll link to the event so people

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can attend that if they want to. Virtually, if you get that set

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up, we'll certainly link to that
as well. But Daniel, I really

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appreciate you coming on. Man,
I've had a blast talking to you.

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You are very welcome. Mate.
They say you don't have to go home,

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but you Guesday I speaks steps steps
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for Joy, for me, Joy,

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