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R, TUCSA and iHeartRadio Station Yet. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to

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I on the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's

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Jay, and we're late because we
don't have the kids. Do we have

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a shower on our own pre sading. You're applotting our future and here we

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are futures now, Jay, I
know it is futures now. Is hey

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welcome to Tuesday. I think I
hope it's Tuesday. It is Tuesday.

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The calendar said that they usually comes
right after Monday, after Monday. Yeah,

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Hey, I'm excited about today's show. I hope we're able to pull

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it off well, because last time
we talked about baby, he was asleep.

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Oh that's right, we'd call him. He yeah, he was asleep,

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so available to us today. Yeah. I talked to him last week

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game some times. He says,
yeah, I think maybe that could happen.

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And then I talked to him this
morning. He says, I think

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three seventeen's the best. That's a
good ker. He'll be taking a nap

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because I think that's what he takes
his nap. So and that, and

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then we're gonna have Joe Lavello,
Joseph Levello, Levano, I'm sorry Levan.

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He says his name wrong. And
he's a friend of mine. Uh

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yeah, se point one another women's
or girls basketball term. Yeah two two

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of the last three years. And
last year they were in the open division.

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So they didn't win it because I
did go to the website. They

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have a website like, no,
it's it's the jen I saw them tweet

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retweet our your your your post here. So no sound point two three champ

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two championships in the last three years, and so congratulations to them. As

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as we've said before, we like
to we like to get the head coaches

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on when they win a state championship, right, you know, just one

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more little thing that they get at
this, right, so they get to

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come on talk about their team.
And so we'll be talking to him.

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Uh in the uh in the four
o'clock hour, right, okay, okay,

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uh So a lot of things going
on. I think the women are

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now in Vegas right right to pit
tomorrow. Yeah, they open tomorrow seventh

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seed. Yeah, their seventh seed, which puts them that what what time

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uh there there, I think six
o'clock. I think they pig Washington at

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that time and we'll see what happens
if they can get to the second round

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play usc again for the third time. Yeah. Yeah, so you know,

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it's it's it's I think it's one
of the great stories that we haven't

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really seen much nationally or everybody knows
locally, well, you know, Juju

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Watkins. And there was a conversation
on I think it was the Dan Patrick

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Show talking about you know, this
whole phenomenon that Caitlin Clark created right right

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right, and they're saying it's it's
really become sort of a movement for you

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know, college women's college basketball that
you know, it had been going towards

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that anywhere, sure Yukon, Yeah
like that, you know, there are

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you know, the the whole tournament
is on the whole bait, but that

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Caitlin Clark has brought it to another
level. They said, now they need

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the next person up to kind of
keep that momentum going, somebody who might

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threaten Caitlin Clark's record and The first
name that came out was Juju wat right

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scoring a million plus. You had
a fifty point game you know, earlier

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this year, is sure. I
think Arizona was one of the one that

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held her to twenty and so so
the thinking being that the Juju Watkins,

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you know, becomes the next Caitlyn
Clark, the next Sabrina eyan Escu,

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you know, uh, the girl
at the woman at LSU, Brianna,

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the Ree scirl. Yeah, but
the scirl, Yeah, the one that

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gave King Clark year. You know, yeah, we know, we know

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Kelsey Plumb. Well, you saw
the ratings, right, did you see

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the ratings how they went through Sunday's
game with Ohio State through the roof?

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I had the game on. Yeah, me too, Oh I watched it

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at least so yeah, you know, so it's it. But but that's

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the thoughts. So Juju wat is
that person. And speaking of that,

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we'll cover this in breaking news.
But the PAC twelve women's All All Pack

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twelve team is out, and so
we'll run through that a little bit in

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breaking news. There is some Arizona
presence on it. Now we'll mention who

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that is when when the time comes. But you know, it's you know,

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pack twelve women are in the postseason. So the tournament starts tomorrow.

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Matchups tomorrow, you got Oregon and
Colorado the five and the twelve seed.

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At one o'clock, you got Washington
State and KEL At three thirty, Washington

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and Arizona. Arizona is the seventh
seed, so that the favorite team in

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that at seven o'clock, and then
as U and Utah at nine thirty our

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time, and then Arizona again,
the Arizona Washington Winter plays USC and the

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Arizona's on the side on the side
of the brack with USC and New Seald.

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You know, okay, so should
be should be fun a couple of

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days, one day, two day, three day. Maybe if they win

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a couple that could get into the
tournament. You know, they first they

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need to at least beat Washington.
Yeah, right, can't lose that,

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right, and then if you know, I mean they've shown they can beat

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us. See the question is you
know us you'll be ready for this?

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Sure? Sure, so we'll see
that. We'll probably end up watching that's

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tomorrow. Is that tomorrow, so
we'll be able to watch it tomorrow.

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The men play at full time on
Thursday, seven thirty our time, our

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time, so six thirty their time. That should be a huge game.

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Obviously UCLA needs to step up,
but should be a fun, huge game

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up in Paul. Yeah, you
would, I mean you would. You

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would expect. You would expect the
UCLA would come in to that game fired

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up and wanting to beat Arizona.
You would expect that. But you know,

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you know, when a team that
expects success and isn't having it,

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you don't know where their mind is
at the end of the year. Yeah,

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right, Do they just want it
over with and go through the motions

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or are they going to say,
well, you know what, our season

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has sucked, so let's go give
this all we can and make ourselves feel

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better in Arizona. Sure. So, you know it's hard to say what

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you sell a team. We will
see, but certainly they they've got I

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mean, they have to have the
talent to be able to beat Arizona.

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If you play well and then don't
forget that Saturday when they play, you

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will see the call your kid in
his caller, Uh, the guy who

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didn't play is gonna be playing.
They're gonna be better, They're gonna be

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better Buggie Buggie. Alice didn't play, Caller didn't play. So those guys

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will be back. They'll be at
home. Arizona's that that's very Look.

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I look, Washington Washington stage down
to one game. They got to beat

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Washington, and if Arizona loses the
game, the Washington state is backed up.

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And who would have thought that at
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think they were picked to finish tenth. You should have had some money on

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that one. Yeah, whatever,
you're thinking, that's dead money, Yeah,

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exactly, that's good. Who's putting
money on Washington to win it all?

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Yeah? I guarantee you though after
the season that that coach won't be

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the coach next year. I think. So you think he'll be gone this

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they'll find they'll find you win there, you win there, Yeah, you

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could win anywhere. Washington job is
opening up, you know that too?

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Yeah, right, that too.
Who knows, But there's plenty of plenty

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of time for that to get to
Okay. So Thursday, the us U

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c l a usc on Saturday,
the women play tomorrow. So busy this

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week football. I saw some I
saw some clips on football. I guess

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they're working out a little two days. When do they start officially? I

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don't know. He's like, because
it's voluntary workouts. Well, okay,

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I saw some clips they've been Look, you have to do this. You

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can't you know, you can't wait, you can't wait, you know,

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and pleasant you know Arizona's guy.
You know, I saw I think two

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for seven Sports put out odds to
win the Big Top next year. Yeah,

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and then Arizona had the fourth highest
spots. Really ye it was Utah,

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Kansas, Kansas State, Arizona.
Okay, so I saw a tweet

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by someone on some guy, some
guy that's kind of knowledgeable. He had

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Arizona number two. Uh, it's
gonna be fun, all I know that.

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And this is like we said before
when all this shook down, that

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Arizona has this best chance to win
a Corn Prince now than it did in

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the previous car right absolutely leveled the
play, you know. And we still

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haven't gotten around to talking about what's
going on with the college football playoffs,

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and we we should because you know, it impacts Arizona in a lot of

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different ways. But the one way, you know, these guys are talking

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about the fact that if you if
you've seen it what they're what they're talking

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about is is the three automatic bursts
for the Big twelve and for the Big

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Ten and the SEC, and two
for the A C C and and the

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Big twelve, the ACC and the
Big Tall. Okay, and they're saying

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how Clemson and Florida State are talking
about leaving the ACC And they're saying,

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Okay, under this plan, your
league gets two spots automatically in the college

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football playoffs. Why would you leave
that league to go to the SEC or

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the Big Ten? But there are
six teams going for three spots and you

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know, in each league, and
now you add to that, and they're

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specifically doing it for this reason.
For the money. Yeah, well,

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to get to with the possibility of
the very good chance. Well yeah,

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why would you just stay? Yeah? Yeah, sure, which goes back

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because why would why would Oklahoma and
Texas leave Big twelve of course to become

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an also ran in the SEC?
Money? Why would USC and U c

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l A leave the Pac twelve to
go become the fifth and tenth best teams

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in the Big Ten? Yeah?
Well, it is for the money,

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and and that's you know, that's
what it is. But it's like cleansing

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Florida State. If you stay in
the ACC one or both of you in

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the playoff every year, Yeah,
why would why would you think? Here?

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You know? And and and then
to the point of Arizona. Okay,

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you look at Utah, Kansas and
Kansas State where by two four seven

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sports are picked to finish ahead of
Arizona. Those teams don't scare the crap

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out of me. And no,
Arizona, you're saying, all we got

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to do is be two of those
teams and we're in the play Yeah.

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Yeah, even by reputation, they
don't scare you, right, And we'll

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see what happens. But that first
year is going to kind of set the

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tone for what they do with football
wise. Yeah, basketball is it's just

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it's a free from basketball. Yeah. And that's what I can't I can't

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wait for. And that's gonna be
fun. Yeah, you know, it's

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gonna be fun. I'm looking forward
to to, uh, you know,

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having Kansas here, Baylor, this
is this may be a dumb statement,

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but I've said them before. Uh. I think that Arizona basketball has a

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better chance of winning the national title
being in the Big twelve than they did

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in the Pack two. I agree
with that because it sharpens a tool.

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On the conversation we're having the other
day, sharpens a tool. They'll be

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better because they have to be better. They know how to play that tough

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style, the varying styles game came
in and get them out right right,

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there's no I don't think that's a
surprise that Kansas has done what has done,

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Baylor had did what it done because
you have to you have to prepare

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yourself for multiple levels of play.
They've been through the gauntlet by the time

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they get to the tournament and they're
ready for anything. And what's Arizona scryptite,

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what's Arizona physical team? Physical teams
to slow it down? Oh,

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we've always said that, Steve,
And we've always said how well does the

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PAC twelve or PAC ten prepare themselves, prepare them for the n C Double

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A. We've always said it does. Loui used to say that, you

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know, lou I mean he would
complain that the Pack twelve breaths were too

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were too soft. And by the
time we get to you know, we

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get to the tournament, we're facing
Yeah, that that you could do,

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Yeah, we didn't allow us to
do that. A month ago yeah,

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exactly. By that time, you're
preaking the guy off the floor and said,

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how did that have? What?
What? You can't do that to

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me? Well, yeah, you
can in the n C Double A tournament,

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right, And and you know I
also made the point that you know,

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even the Pack twelve BREFs change the
way they call game sure in the

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n Double A sure they even they
reff differently. Yeah, you know the

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old guys that we used to see, you know, uh, Richie Biasteros

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and all those guys. Also you
see him in a DANC double A tournament.

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So wait a minute, you didn't
make that call in Tucsa. Yeah,

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in fact, you didn't do it
last week. So I needed to

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survive in two so exactly. Yeah, Okay, now, hey, I'm

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looking again our guests Mike Bibby in
about five six minutes, five six minutes,

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and then we're gonna get Joe Louvanovano
at four seventeen, talk about all

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the great success they've had at the
soule point anything. Lastingly, we need

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to talk about no figure out again. You know, where there's a you

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know, things are heating up with
you know, the men's basketball in terms

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of teams falling into and they follow
if they started the tournament. Now you

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know, teams have already started to
play games, uh, you know,

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to get to get bids. Vegas
is going I think the men's men's with

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the Gonzaga is playing in theirs.
The whack will be beginning there because they're

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at the same time as they have. You ever been too busy to go

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a week before? No? No, no, too busy to go the

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other game? Yeah no no,
don't you say, have that right?

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Yeah? No. What I what
I see is like on the days when

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I'm I'm not there for four games
in the arena. You saw on Friday

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and Saturday. You go around the
strip and you see you actually go from

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all the bu you know, go
over to the Nike store over there at

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Caesar's Palace and you'll see every a
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We can't afford that place. I
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just go to luck. I just
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about to go to break. But
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two four to seven sports put out
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They got Utah plus three forty Kansas
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fifty, then Arizona and plus seven
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bit. That's not a money maker, but it's it's a money maker,

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but it's not a huge seven fifty
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would do that. That's seven and
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Look how they handled Utah. They
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then the rest of the top half
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t Central Florida, Iowa State,
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You mean you mean deon stuff being
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that one. Let's get out of
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that's good money exactly, all right. So we're gonna take our first

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break. So when we come back, it'll be Mike Bibbie joining us,

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Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome
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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,
he's Jacinsaus. Now on the phone,

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we have former U of a all
American Mike Baby, Mike, how are

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you you? Good? Thing was
going on? Not a whole lot.

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Good to see you last week,
by the way, one of my favorite

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guys. You know that I appreciate
that. I think it was good to

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be around again. Yes, yes, I was thinking as I was watching

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them play a ISU are You've gone
to a few of those issue games in

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the past ninety tam how would Mike
Bibby like playing for Tommy Lloyd and that

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offense? And I'm thinking I think
he'd love it. Yeah, I mean

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I could probably adapt to anything.
But you know, Tommy Lloyd I think

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is doing a good job, and
I think loud Olson is one of the

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best ever. He could never go
against loud Olson. But Tommy Lloyd,

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I think is doing a great job
with these guys and hopefull they can make

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a big run in the in the
tournament. What do you like about what

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they do? Particularly offensively, because
they just they just run up and down

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the court and they look like they're
having fun. They spread the ball around.

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I mean, those are the things
that we like as fans. But

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you was somebody who's played the position, how you know, how do you

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like what they do? It's good
to play like that. You know,

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a lot of guys, a lot
of coaches want these kids to play like

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robots, and that's not basketball.
So just to let him get out there

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and play how they feel and play
off of I won't say emotion, but

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just off of actions and just play
and let it like reaction time. That's

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the way basketball is supposed to be
played. It isn't. You're not supposed

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to go out there and think you're
supposed to go out there and just play

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basketball. And the way he plays
that, I think it brings the best

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out of the kids and brings out
the best of what they like to do.

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I think used to say, you
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is the bench you can if you're
not playing well. He had the bench,

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but for you guys, it was
he let you guys make mistakes and

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let you play. That's the best
part of basketball. You know, nobody's

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perfect, not even in a regular
day job, and so for a coach

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to have faith and you let you
make mistakes. But I've also seen my

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son has been put in situations where
one mistake and you're out the game.

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And I've seen him go through that
for his whole college career, and it's

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it's breaking my heart to see that
just I mean, even if it wasn't

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just him, just for any kid
to go out there and not be able

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to make mistakes. It's hard to
play that way. And when a coach

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lets make mistakes and be able to
play and not afraid to fail, that's

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when they bring the best out of
you. Mike. When you look back

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at you know, the way you
played the game as a college player,

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and what you see today is what
the point guard is doing in college basketball

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vastly different about the same? What
what what you know? The expectations that

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we have of guards, let's say
particularly the Arizona guards, right Colin Boswell,

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and the things that they're doing.
Is it different or is it about

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the same? I mean, it
depends on who's the coaching or what kind

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of team it is. Because the
team we had, I mean, we

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had multiple people that could bring the
ball up. It wasn't just me,

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right. A lot of these teams
get the ball to one point guard and

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have them to start the offense.
And like Arizona now present time, they

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have the kind of the same thing
we had where other people could bring the

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ball up to start the office.
It doesn't have to be just a traditional

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point guard. That's the way we
play as well. Yeah, did you

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coach that way as well? You
must have. I just I mean it

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depends on when I coached. I
like to get out and run. You

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know, we average about ninety two
points a game in high school. But

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I mean we turned our defense turned
into offense. But you know, I

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never, I never. I never
took guys out for making mistakes. I

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took guys out for effort. And
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run back, you're gonna come out. You're gonna come out for not the

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run back, not for the turnover. Right, Well, I mean,

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just I just let guys know it's
okay to make mistakes. It's gonna happen.

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Even pros make mistakes. Just go
out there, play, play loose,

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you work on this game. I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna put them

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against you for going out there and
trying to make plays. We're gonna have

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somebody from South Point here. They
want to second title. You want to

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you want a couple of how many
titles did you win? Think? Five?

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Oh? Okay, you know I
got a sick Maybe that's not bad.

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What what do you think you were
doing? What do you were you

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doing right? What were you what
was your secret sauce? Well, we

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always made a tough schedule, so
it was always we were always playing teams

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from out of state. I can't
I mean, I could probably count probably

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thirty to forty NBA players that we
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Barrett, Gottie Barnes, James Wiseman, you could go all the way

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down the line. We played all
these guys just to prepare them for in

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state. We had we had about
seventy five game winning streak in state and

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we lost by Nico's half court shout. We would have had ninety some games

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in a row. But yeah,
I just got to prepare it outside like

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we I ran. I ran the
high school like a college, kind of

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like a college and flash NBA program
to where we watched films, we we

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had shooting around. We'd have a
walk through at different ways we're gonna play

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these certain games and how we're gonna
guard their offense, and I mean the

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school stuff. We had Freddy Halls. We had to make sure these guys

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were doing their class stuff. But
we it wouldn't run like a like a

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college program, NBA program, and
they succeeded that way, and they were

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always prepared. You can never you
can never say they were prepared. Yeah,

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yeah, that makes sense. And
and so you know, going back

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to you know, talking about how
you know, how the is the game

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overall played any different leaders? It
just as you said, depending on the

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coaches. I mean, when you
watch a game, do you see the

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same game you played? It's it's
it's a different now. You know,

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there's a lot more threes being shot, the mid range games kind of taken

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out. You know, you have
a lot of guys the traditional big man

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is gone. Well there really isn't
a traditional big man anymore. Traditional big

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man is more on the perimeter.
The suit read and spread spread the court.

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So it's paying that aspect kind of. So we always ask this the

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players too, How do you watch
the game as a fan or even even

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as kind of as a coach,
like you know the intricacies of of what's

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going on. I watched it like
a player, you know what I mean?

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Just if you could tell kids are
being taught stuff, if they're not

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being taught stuff, is they just
throwing the ball? They let them use

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their athleticism. Like a team that
looks like they're really well coached and played

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good, like like they're tossed uff
as Houston. I like to watching Houston

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play because just you can look at
them and tell that them that they're all

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the way around the good. They
have no egos on that team. They

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play hard and they're well coached.
Yeah, yeah, and they play hard.

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They play harder. You get very
physical, Yeah, harder physical part

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when you when you were in the
in the in the pack it was still

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ten. It back ten when you
were playing when you're in the PAC ten,

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even back then, you know,
the PAC ten didn't have a great

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reputation. There were some there were
some years that they were good, but

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there was always we were talking about
this earlier, the thought that how well

408
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.599
did the PAC ten prepare you for
the n C Double A Tournament. Did

409
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.400
you feel like when you were you
know, you played in two n C

410
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.000
Double A tournament, did you feel
like you had been tested enough, you

411
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.160
know, in your Pack ten schedule
to have an idea of what you were

412
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.240
about to face in the NC Double
A's you know what I'm trying to get

413
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.160
at, because it's kind of the
feeling right now, you know, Arizone

414
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.559
has got some games left that they're
not gonna help. It's not gonna help

415
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.920
them in terms of their seeding and
all that kind of stuff. So how

416
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:38.400
did you guys look at that as
players? I think the Pack then was

417
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.240
one of the best conferences in the
country at the time when we were playing.

418
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:47.319
That's why I think we got so
many teams in the tournament. Coach

419
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:51.880
Olton in our Coach Olton got prepared
for the tournament. It was nothing else

420
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.440
like he we made. He made
sure we were already. He made sure

421
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.440
that guys had the confidence to go
out there and play. He let us

422
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.119
play to our strength, and so
he's the one that compares. I don't

423
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.200
think I mean, you're gonna come
across teams that you know, if like

424
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.279
the last couple of years, U
of A has lost, and I mean

425
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.079
obviously Arizona's the mortalented teams and some
of the teams that they lost. But

426
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:19.039
that's where it goes sometimes if I
wanted and done, That's what makes Mars

427
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.400
Madden is so great. You never
know what could happen. So we're talking

428
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.079
to Mike Baby, former Juve All
American at the U of A obviously,

429
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.200
so I joked with him. I
saw him on Wednesday. Thinks my guy

430
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.880
here didn't speak to and didn't talk
a lot when he was a kid play

431
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.240
here, and now guess what he
does for a living. He talks a

432
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.960
lot. Right. You sound a
little different now because I think you're under

433
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:45.200
the weather. But tell us what
you're up to. Still trying to coach,

434
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.880
getting the coaching and stuff. I
do analyst stuff now for the Sacramento

435
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:55.200
Kings. I coach. I mean
I do pre game, halftime and postgame

436
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.519
analyst stuff for the Kings. I
just got back this morning on a trip.

437
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.200
I got about, you know,
thirty to forty games this season on

438
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.319
that. You know, I never
thought. I always thought I've never thought

439
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.039
of doing TV stuff. You know, like you said, I'm not the

440
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.920
one to really talk about I just
sit back and observe and stuff like that.

441
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.000
But coaching. Coaching is a lot
easier for me. I could come

442
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.599
out there and I could just I
was coaching because it comes so natural for

443
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.680
me. But you know, I
think this will help me get into coaching.

444
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.079
And it was it's good to dip
on dabbling some stuff that that I'm

445
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:30.400
not really comfortable with doing but still, you know, getting to be comfortable.

446
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:42.039
You're the media now still still player, still player. How much do

447
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:48.400
you miss playing, because you know
every athlete zero zero zero, Okay,

448
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.799
I played. I've been playing in
some leagues with my sons for a little

449
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.720
bit. But other than that,
like, I'm glad. I mean,

450
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.759
the money would be amazing to play
for the money that guy to play for

451
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.240
now, But as far as getting
out on the court and physically going out

452
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.359
there and do that, I'll miss
it at all. Yeah. Okay,

453
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.119
Well you were part of the Big
three right for a while. Yeah,

454
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:11.799
so we started to Dick three with
a group of us, you know,

455
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.920
IQ who gave us the call,
and you know, I grew up on

456
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.960
ICU's music and very influenced me.
Uh just watching me. You know,

457
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.720
called me one day and was like, hey, I'm putting together this league.

458
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.240
And he didn't have to say anymore. I said, I'm in if

459
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.680
you're if you're involved with it,
and I'm in it. It was very

460
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.839
it was a success. Do you
hope to I'm sure you want to coach.

461
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.160
I know that You've been talking about
that for a while with me as

462
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.680
well. At the college level,
pro level, or does it really matter

463
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.039
whatever, whichever one is gonna call, I will do both. I'm not

464
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.079
going to put uh sin on a
just one say one is not the other.

465
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.119
I would do both. Okay,
So does one appeal to you more

466
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.200
or or whatever? I mean?
I just want to get back and help

467
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:02.319
the kids and teach kids and help
these kids play the right way, because

468
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:03.880
I mean, you watch a lot. I watch a lot of basketball,

469
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.680
and these kids aren't taught anything anymore. I love the team. Yeah,

470
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:14.000
right, right? Have you followed
Damon's stuff lately, or I'm sure you

471
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:17.640
follow some of the other guys.
I saw that he got hired at Georgia

472
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:21.400
Tech. You you just see what
Popler were in the group text. You

473
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:26.680
know they have all the former Arizona
wildcatster playing the NBA on the group text.

474
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.880
Again, so I see stuff in
there. We talk here and everybody

475
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:30.799
talks here and there, so I
see it a little bit of that.

476
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:33.640
Yeah, and you go to the
Sun's game, see Miles at all,

477
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.599
or you guys, I haven't.
I haven't. Miles daughter playing in the

478
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:45.680
same volleyball program as my youngest daughter
right now, so I haven't seen him

479
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:47.680
yet. While you've been here.
I've been in it out. You've been

480
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:48.880
in it out, so I haven't
really got to see him yet. Yeah,

481
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.559
okay, okay, Well, Mike, I know you're a little under

482
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.759
the weather. Go back to kick
a nap. Appreciate you, Appreciate you,

483
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.440
man, you well, thank you, thank you. Take Mike Baby.

484
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.359
I always loved talking to Mike Baby. He didn't say more talkative than

485
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:06.400
he used to. Man, even
I knew that, look I would,

486
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:08.079
you know, I mean, yeah, I mean, but you know what

487
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.440
he died. He talked plenty on
the court for sure, you know,

488
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.079
because he was a good leader.
He was as good as he was as

489
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.559
good as for general as they you
know. Yeah, and he didn't do

490
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.559
anything you know in Arizona history.
He didn't do anything like Jason Kidd did.

491
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:23.680
And I think that loot kind of
stifled some of that, you know,

492
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:29.680
the fancy smashy stuff. But he
was effective as all hell, asistent,

493
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.880
reliable, effective. I guess what
he played, Yeah, the boycott,

494
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.039
right, that's all you want.
It didn't look like anything rattled him

495
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.039
from from the get very much.
So the first day he very true in

496
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.599
the game. He didn't like it, didn't look like anything in the game

497
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.519
ever rattled. Right, well,
I'll give you the game that that didn't

498
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:52.519
happen is Kansas. Kansas in the
biggest game of his career, all Arizona's

499
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:57.359
lifetime, knocks him off and he's
at the free throw and hitting free throws.

500
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.960
Yeah, and and and in the
in the championship game as well against

501
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.599
Kentucky. Right, well, he
was made. If there was a most

502
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.400
valuable player for the tournament, it
was Mike Bibby. Miles had a great

503
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.799
final four and he was the most
valuab player of the final four. But

504
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.839
all those pieces, you know,
you didn't think You didn't think that three

505
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.400
weeks prior to the tournament starting.
I mean you sit here and think,

506
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.519
Okay, who's the Who's who's the
better center or Brown? Brown? Yeah,

507
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.000
we're taking every time. But yet
you know they wanted after Well,

508
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.119
okay, I'll give you this comparison. Who you take You bet at Davison

509
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.519
or right, that's kind of a
push, yeah, bet because their offense

510
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.480
more offensive game with Ben Davison on
defense and rebounding was fantastic. Off the

511
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.799
arts, yeah, and then the
rest is well, I think you take

512
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.400
the ninety seventy with Dickerson, Miles
and Baby, Yeah, j T coming

513
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.200
off the bench exactly, yeah,
and then yeah, and then everybody else

514
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:59.279
knowing the roles, Gene coming in
for the power, uh, Donnell kind

515
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.519
of coming into Yeah, all of
those guys. It was. I mean,

516
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.960
you want to talk about a team
that just fit together, right,

517
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.960
with all the pieces and together.
But you have to stop the conversation in

518
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:13.239
ninety seven because in ninety eight it
worked. It worked until it did with

519
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.039
the same people, until it did. They let Andre Miller go off on

520
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:20.320
him. All right, let's take
our next break where to come back.

521
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.199
I will take your calls five two, Daryl four one, six, seventy

522
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.239
four, forty five and give us
a buzz house, which you thought of

523
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:29.159
the Mike Baby interview. We're talking
a lot of basketball right now because we're

524
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.760
in the home stretch of the season. Some big stuff going with Arizona both

525
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.920
the man and women this week,
and then we're gonna have the South Point

526
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.960
girls coach coming off a state championship, their second in the last three years.

527
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.280
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I'm Steve, You're Jay. No kids

567
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today, so expect problems. You
already started to kind of weird, but

568
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.760
oh yeah. The first thing is
that we did. We didn't realize we

569
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.199
were about to go on. Yeah
for sending your lollygagg you no headphones on

570
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.360
all that kind of stuff. But
you know, yeh, look behind the

571
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scenes stuff. We're all about it. So we'll let you know everything's going

572
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:51.119
on. When we don't have the
kids, poop happens, Yeah, usually

573
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.280
does they keep us flying up?
I mean, yeah, fifteen minutes.

574
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.679
If you guys want to give us
a quick call first time callers, we'd

575
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:59.880
really love to hear from. We
had one yesterday or the day before,

576
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.400
Terry or something, Terry new guy. Oh yeah, so no people are

577
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.280
listening. At least they're telling us, oh, yesterday. In fact,

578
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.800
I got and you saw it probably
on Twitter. My Bob Hayes observation was,

579
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.960
I did you know what? And
I should have been because I was

580
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:15.920
totally wrong. This is the sad
thing, Jake, because I'm almost sixteen

581
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.639
now. I did a book report
on Bob Hayes back like when I was

582
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.559
twelve, and I said, I
must have forgotten a lot of stuff because

583
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.000
because I knew he was good,
and I knew he was obviously fast,

584
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.519
and I'm a cow Back then,
I was a cowboy fan, I must

585
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:31.320
have forgotten all of it. Well, here's the thing. I was so

586
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:37.039
uncertain of my memory. I didn't
argue with you, which is very strange.

587
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:43.920
I mean, I do remember the
world's fastest because you won one hundred

588
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.679
hundred yard dash in the Olympics,
the whole bit, and he was If

589
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.559
you'd have said it is Bob Hayes
the Hall of Fame. I would have

590
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.039
said, I don't know. Yeah, all right, well I could man,

591
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.239
and I think about it, and
my point was, I do remember

592
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:59.480
that. My point was, and
it fell flat, was it's not always

593
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:00.920
because you're as you can catch a
pass, right, we were talking about

594
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.440
that, and that was where it
all fell apart and you couldn't. It

595
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.079
was really because of him that other
other right, like Ronaldo May. Some

596
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:13.639
of these guys you know, got
a chance because they were willing to take

597
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:17.679
a chance as if they had another
another Bobby on their uh, on their

598
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.400
team. And that's what this,
these combines are all about. You could

599
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:22.920
play, That's why I that's why
I haven't. And I've talked to some

600
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.519
agents before. When I did this
full time, you can have a season

601
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.920
like let's say Caleb right, he's
on nobody's uh, nobody said radar.

602
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:37.119
He's a Glennie Party and all Americans
somehow, but nobody's radar to get drafted.

603
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.559
But we know he can play.
But then you go to the combines

604
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.360
and you say, what did I
miss? And I didn't realize he was

605
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.519
that good? Or you could score
thirty points a year a game or I

606
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.480
average that and not be good enough
to play. And you're not good enough

607
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.079
to play. I'll give you a
perfect example. The guy that Tommy Lloyd

608
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:59.840
coached, Uh, the kid who's
now the radio guy, and I can't

609
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:02.159
even and think of his damn nick
no, no, no, Uh,

610
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:09.239
Harrison Marson Adams, the All American
first team guy who could play it right

611
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:13.320
in college and then he got there
and he couldn't play it. He was

612
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.599
not the next Larry Bird, right, and you're thinking, how could that

613
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:22.039
happen? Drew Timmy, another All
American, the kid who was the first

614
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.519
Player of the Year at IOWA a
couple of years ago, the big tall

615
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:30.480
Yeah, where's he going? He's
in D League? But so you know

616
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.679
what I'm saying, Sometimes it doesn't
translate to the next level, right,

617
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.480
And here we are with Caleb who
you think might have a spot, and

618
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.159
I just don't know. You don't
know, you know, you don't know

619
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.119
how the game translates. Again,
if you're the asked me, is Josh

620
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.639
Green going to be in the NBA? And said what about the Yeah?

621
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.920
Uh, you know, and you
know TJ again, we used TJ McConnell

622
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.719
all the time. Almost ten years
now. But I'm going to say this

623
00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:00.880
about TJ mcconne because we always talk
about how, you know, unbelievable it

624
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:06.840
is. When you saw his court
presence, he thought, if somebody needs

625
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:13.079
a guy like that who just does
the work, doesn't ask for anything.

626
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:17.840
He's really smart on the court.
And you know, basically, you know

627
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.719
TJ McConnell was Steve Kurr without a
shot. Yeah right right, But you

628
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.320
know you knew that he was that
if he got a chance, he was

629
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.679
gonna get there, and he was
going to do the work that he needed

630
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.639
to do to make himself into an
NBA player who would stick around. And

631
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.280
he's in his ninth year in the
NBA. Well he's here's the catch for

632
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.360
me? Knowing that he was gonna
be good. Uh, when he had

633
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:44.239
the red shirt from this tracks fer
from Duquane, Uh, would would go

634
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.559
to the game, would go to
the practices, and Miller will let him

635
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.239
go in obviously. Uh. And
I said, how they look you so

636
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.239
the best players not even playing.
I'm thinking who could that be? Who

637
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.360
could that be? And then I
realized when the State Star was told it

638
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.840
was McConnell, I'm thinking, how
is he the best player against with some

639
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.400
pretty dark good player was on and
he says, because he knows how to

640
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.000
play the game. Both he was
on. What a love he was bibby

641
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.840
only a biby light biby light because
he ran the show. He didn't have

642
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:19.440
the quickness and he didn't have the
shot, but he did everything else and

643
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.039
and he's made it. He's made
a living out of that m and that's

644
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.760
all he take. Would you take? How can I say? Height in

645
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:29.559
this game is important, obviously,
but let me it's overrated in my in

646
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:34.159
my world, I'll give you this, sorry example. Would you take five

647
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.880
uh? Uh? Oh, Carl, I'm getting too old for this.

648
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:46.119
Uh the five uh hands of Stone
and Stokes or five colid Reeves. Oh

649
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:49.719
you know what I'm saying. You
got a big team or you want clid

650
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.800
Reefs. You said hands the stone
and immediately came really, I apologize that.

651
00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:00.440
I'm mad at myself. I can't
remember this pick sure wor Stokes.

652
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.400
I had to pay the picture for
you. You know what he had?

653
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.880
Stokes, the guy, he was
giving it all he had out there.

654
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.840
He just sure, but he didn't
have a lot to give but his hands.

655
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.639
Word. But you're right, you
know again, I'll just the last

656
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.760
new memory of poor head Stokes was
the picture that ran in the paper of

657
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.280
him getting his shot blocked by Shack
and the ball is hitting Shack's four arm

658
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.719
and and I'm like, you know, but you know, I'm just sad

659
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:32.880
that that was nineteen ninety So what
thirty four years ago? Man, We're

660
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.719
just a bunch of old dudes.
Yeah, a bunch of old dudes.

661
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.039
I'm getting depressed. Here, where's
my big you know? I you know,

662
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.920
I think I think our I think
our our listeners missed the kids because

663
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.360
you know, we're sitting here on
the phone right right, we're looking at

664
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.440
the you know, whe's d Wade
and you're making fun. You're having fun

665
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:57.440
on spring break this week. They
are They're all gone. Uh and uh,

666
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.280
I know, I there's more than
one student that I know that is

667
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:06.239
upset that spring break and the packball
tournament are in two separate weeks. Yeah.

668
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.679
No, of course, because it's
usually falls, you know, spring

669
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.760
break, spring break, and they
all go, see how much of a

670
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.719
difference or or doesn't matter, if
it doesn't matter, they're going. They're

671
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:21.639
going anyway, they're cutting class.
It just means they're cutting class. Now

672
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.440
sure, sure, oh I gotta
I can do this on the on the

673
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.760
road. I can do it on
exactly. But yeah, you know,

674
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.039
but hey, it's it's gonna be
great. I'm still I'm still looking forward

675
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:31.760
to a week from today. Man, we're out of here, Steve.

676
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.159
What's Tuesday? Oh you are?
I gotta go Wednesday? Yeah, it

677
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.440
wasn't gonna go Tuesday, but I'm
not Goodnesday. But I'm really looking forward

678
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.280
to this one with you. Get
a little a little burn in my heart

679
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.840
because class. You know, I
don't if I leave Wednesday, I might

680
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.480
have a show on Tuesday. Now
that you're thinking about it, all right,

681
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.039
I have to see if I want
to day off another day. It's

682
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:53.920
gonna be a whole week except for
Monday. We're gonna be here Monday.

683
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:59.519
We're gonna be here Monday and we'll
figure out Tuesday you're gone, and uh,

684
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:00.400
well, if you do what I
mean, I can certainly call in

685
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.079
for a segment. We'll just be
will be hanging out. I mean,

686
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.960
I'll be doing stuff at the arena. But okay, you can chime in

687
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.440
from over there, over there.
It's it's gonna be uh what do you

688
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:16.000
get in we land in Vegas like
a one o'clock you're sure you're gonna be

689
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.880
in the in the arena. You
won't be somewhere. I can't talk.

690
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.239
I'm watching the horse. We got
what we got work to do in the

691
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.039
arena. You know, it's the
day of We got to get it ready

692
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:28.360
for uh for for the urnment.
You know there was one year that it

693
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.480
went. One of the years it
was the grand talking about you know what,

694
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.639
you don't know, you don't know, right, So we get there

695
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:40.320
and it's five six o'clock the night
before the first game. The tournament starts

696
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:45.440
at noon the next day. Right, we get there and they're barely putting

697
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.079
the floor down because there has been
a Taylor Swift concert the night before in

698
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.840
the area. So somebody skilled to
the toiler Taylor Swift concert two days before

699
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:58.000
the tournament. So they had to
break down Taylor Swift and put in the

700
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.199
court and they were still building court
those at the MGM. Yeah, at

701
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:06.679
six o'clock at night the night before
the first game, teams couldn't even go

702
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.119
in there and and shoot do a
shoot around DrAk Because we get there.

703
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.400
We get there on Tuesday and every
team has a shoot round. There's perspective.

704
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:17.000
So let's say that was fifteen years
ago, about eleven eleven years ago.

705
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:23.159
So she was playing in front of
a twelve thousand stadium, probably that

706
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:30.199
arena held to and James Gym fourteen
fourteen for a concert. You know when

707
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.719
you have the fourth floor. Okay, probably seventeen or eighteen. Okay,

708
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:38.480
So now she's got this, Marina's
you gotta get eight hundred dollars tickets for

709
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:42.800
for one hundred thousand people. WHOA. But yeah, there was a Taylor

710
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:47.440
Swift concert the night before there and
they were scrambling. They hadn't even put

711
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.199
the tables up for the press and
all that. They were scrambling. We

712
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.920
worked till one o'clock in the morning
and not getting getting the arena ready.

713
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.039
But again, well you don't know, you don't know, because by the

714
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.039
time people got there on Wednesday morning, man, it was ready to go,

715
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.639
good to go. Yeah. I
love that place. I love that

716
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.440
place because you tickets, you can
sell them. Yeah. I was having

717
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:13.679
a conversation with somebody today at breakfast, who is he's going this year for

718
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.920
the first time since they moved it
to t Mobile. He just remembers going

719
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.559
to it when it was at the
end. Yeah, it's different. Spilling

720
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.159
into the casino after the game and
everybody was there. It's different. And

721
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:27.719
I told yeah, it's a little
different. It's still fun, still fun

722
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.079
blast, Yeah, but it's different. Yeah, if you owe anybody money

723
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:35.519
and Tucson, you better stay away
from it. And they're gonna want it.

724
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.960
Yeah. I need some money for
the black back table for sure.

725
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:45.400
But yeah, No, it's a
I'm it's such a it's gonna be such

726
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.119
a huge I think there's gonna be
more Arizona fans than ever because, first

727
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.400
of all, I think more tickets
are available because you see LA's ninety good,

728
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.079
us is any good, They're not
coming, Oregon is even hasn't been

729
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.559
that good. How many of their
fans are coming. He sounds to me

730
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:00.880
like more tickets have been made avail
well for Arizona fans. And it's gonna

731
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:06.840
be really and and everybody from Arizona's
going. I feel like it's again last

732
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.039
one out. Turn out the lights
because it's gonna be a lot of people

733
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:10.880
over there. It gonna be fun. I'm looking forward to. Yeah,

734
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:14.880
it should be a lot of fun. Uh, Okay, what's what's there?

735
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.719
Anybody want to call? We have
a couple of minutes five two,

736
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.800
four, one, six, seventy
four forty Uh, first time colors is

737
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.559
fine. Anybody else want to just
give us a quick call? That'd be

738
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:27.679
great, Uh to hear from everybody
or anybody. Yeah, yeah, no,

739
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.719
it's uh, you know again,
a lot of talk about the women's

740
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.840
game right now, a lot of
chatter on social media about the Caitlin Clark

741
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.440
effect and and all that and all
that's going on with that, and it's

742
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:44.360
it's really interesting. Shannon Sharp made
a comment that he knows more women's college

743
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.920
basketball players than men's college basketball players
and stuff like that. I'll give you

744
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:53.000
this question, Uh, who's the
who's the kitten Clark of men's basketball?

745
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:55.519
I think walkin who's going to do
a callum? He asked some people,

746
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:04.320
who's the men's cat and Clark?
Maybe? Like famous Wise, do people

747
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.679
go watch a game because of Zach
Eu? Probably not, but maybe a

748
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:16.239
little because he's so big, He's
not If not him, I don't think

749
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.800
there is one, well there's not
one or anything like her, But who

750
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.039
would be the not even in the
just a name, but just a name?

751
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:30.199
Now you're talking back in the day, somebody like the guy from Duke

752
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:37.920
Riddick, oh the shoot yeah yeah, he's Williams. Yeah yeah, you

753
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:43.880
know at Duke that year. You
know, the whole spotlight was on him.

754
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:49.159
You know what, what others have
there been like that relatively recently to

755
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:53.519
see where people turned on the TV
to see this guy play. I don't,

756
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.480
I don't think, because there's so
many guys who are really really good.

757
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.599
Yeah, but nobody who was not, you know, power Bankerrow,

758
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.119
the guy from Duke, the freshman, he was really good, but he

759
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.800
you know, I didn't turn on
a Duke game because I wanted to see

760
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:12.039
him play. Yeah, okay,
I think that's probably sort of that's sort

761
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.639
of where the line is, right, Did I I turned on I want

762
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:21.559
women's basketball player to watch Caitlyn Clark
play. What she's gonna do? What

763
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.039
was gonna do? Yeah? And
and uh, well, you're you gonna

764
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.639
watch it again because she's already broken
the record? Did you watch him because

765
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.119
she because she broke the paid?
I mean, I mean, I'm certainly

766
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:30.960
gonna pay attention to the women's basketball
tournament. Yeah, you know, if

767
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:36.519
I you know, I'll pay attention
to does she win a championship, because

768
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.320
that's kind of the hanging out.
Did you see or did you hear William

769
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:45.719
Schum You can't consider her the greatest
of all time if she doesn't win a

770
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.280
champions Yeah, I don't agree with
that. I don't agree with that.

771
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.800
No, I don't either. Well, you can consider her damn good.

772
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.800
Yeah, yeah, at the very
least. Yeah, I mean all time

773
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.199
that he's certainly one of the greatest
of all time. And again, you

774
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:06.280
know, with Cheryl Miller better maybe
maybe, yeah, with Kelsey Plumb better

775
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.400
different times maybe, you know.
Yeah, that's kind of extreme, that's

776
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.559
those comparisons. I mean, I
saw Sabrina iron Escue the organ the organ

777
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:16.159
player very good a bunch of times, and I'm like, holy hell,

778
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:20.639
yeah, you know, you know, we saw her in that three point

779
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.599
thing with you know, with Steph
Curry. She's a damn good player.

780
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:30.880
Well, I think a lot of
what Caitlin Clark has become Caitlin Clark because

781
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:35.960
of Sabrina iron Escue, because she'd
garnered. Unfortunately, her thing came in

782
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.599
the COVID years, right, and
so it kind of put a you know,

783
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.800
put a damper on on that.
But I think a lot of why

784
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:46.000
people are all over Caitlyn Clark with
this is because of what she did.

785
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.480
Okay, there's a really damn good
player. Oh no, look here's another

786
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.880
one. It's like it's like when
you talk they talk boxers, or even

787
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.039
Jordan and Lebron and blah blah.
You can debat this forever, and I

788
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.320
don't like to get to those,
but with Muhammad Ali and whomever else,

789
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:06.480
you know, we all have our
favorite. Yeah. You know, a

790
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.039
video came on on my on my
TikTok feed a couple of nights. How

791
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:15.440
old are you, TikTok? I
look at TikTok TikTok. Cool stuff on

792
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:21.119
there, Doctor j. It was
like a two minute video of nothing but

793
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.079
Dunk Dunk's Smart movie. And I'm
like, I'm glued to it. I

794
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.719
watched it a second time, you
know, the one where we went under

795
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.239
the basket and you know, the
cradle, the cradle and all this stuff,

796
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.400
and I'm like, and I was
like, I think I remembered,

797
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.400
like about actually seeing about half of
them. Sure, you know when they

798
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:44.400
happened, you turned on you turned
on the game to watch sure, Sure,

799
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:45.840
right, And that was because you
grew up watching him too. He's

800
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.920
the same about the same age.
All right, let's take our next break.

801
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.679
We're gonna be back. We're gonna
have some breaking news, I guess,

802
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.840
and then we've got this being old
girls basketball co No. No,

803
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.800
at some point, I mean some
point, we'll be right back.