WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:05.040 Is it a Monday in April? Yes, time for another mock draft Monday 2 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:11.080 on Lockdow Bengals. Let's go. You are Locked On Bengals, your daily 3 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:17.879 Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every 4 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:37.920 day Bengals fans and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. I'm 5 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:40.560 your host, Jake Lets go. He's your host, James Rapine. We're 6 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.000 part of the Lockdown podcast network. Here on Lockdown Bengals, covering your Cincinnati 7 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:48.079 Bengals every day with all the latest news and analysis you need to stay up 8 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:51.280 to date going into the draft, throughout the off season, going into the 9 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:55.840 regular season. 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On the 19 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:34.560 Lockdown Bengals podcast here, James, you haven't been more excited for a mock 20 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.400 draft Monday ever. That's why I hit you with the let's go before the 21 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.680 intro. Jake Lisco is as excited as I've seen him, and I think 22 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.280 Bengals fans would be excited if the board played out this way. I wouldn't 23 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.799 because the Vikings take brock Powers by the way, the Vikings aren't going to 24 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.200 take brock Bowers, but brock Bowers off the board, Roma doing Day off 25 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.120 the board, Talise Fuaga to Brian Callahan and the Titans because Joe Alt goes 26 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.599 to the Giants. Hey, if you're the Giant, you got to build 27 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:06.480 around Daniel Jones and that quarterback makes sense. Olufushanu almost falling to the Bengals, 28 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.039 gets picked at sixteen, Brian Thomas to the Colts at fifteen, Quinyon 29 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.159 Mitchell to the Raiders at thirteen, Dallas Turner off the board to the Saints. 30 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:17.159 Laatu Latu off the board, at seventeen, and so Jake, it's 31 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.240 Cherson Newton, Johnny Newton, Byron Murphy, Terry and Arnold, J. 32 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.520 C. Latham, Nate Wiggins, Amarius Mims. Hey, say what you 33 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.719 want? Some really good dudes on the board. And I think that's the 34 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:34.159 beauty of this eighteenth pick, Jake is no matter how you slice it, 35 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.439 there's usually someone that we hold in high regard available when the Bengals are on 36 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.120 the clock at eighteen. Maybe it doesn't break that way on Draft night, 37 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.080 but it feels like the chances are pretty high that there's going to be a 38 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.840 high end defensive tackle, high end offensive tackle, a high end player overall 39 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.199 available at number eighteen. Yeah. I think they will. We'll certainly be 40 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.000 a high end player and it will be a position that fits. There's no 41 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:04.719 real way to first case scenario where it's an actual doomsday for the Bengals when 42 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.680 you're picking eighteen, When you're picking at the back of the first round, 43 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.479 you could say, ah, man, none of these guys we want actually 44 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.400 will fall. And we've seen that kind of happen for the Bengals a little 45 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:16.639 bit the last couple of years, where they haven't gotten one of the guys 46 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:21.599 that we were hoping would fall to them, even if we liked the DACKX 47 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:25.199 He'll pick a couple of years ago, and you could understand the upside with 48 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:30.000 an athletic edge rusher like Miles Murphy this year, picking much earlier in the 49 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:34.919 round. With the depth of talent at the top of the draft, the 50 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.319 four quarterbacks expected to be picked at least before the Bengals pick at eighteen, 51 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:43.159 a number of wide receivers that will be picked before the Bengals pick at eighteen. 52 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.520 There will be somebody there, whether it's a defensive tackle, whether it's 53 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.639 an offensive tackle, whether it's a corner, whether it's Brock Bowers, there 54 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.599 will be a player available to the Bengals baby that we like. Now. 55 00:03:54.120 --> 00:04:00.879 A lot of not machine mocks, let's call them expert mox do have black 56 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:05.360 Powers available to the Bengals at eighteen, and there's a realistic chance that happens 57 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:11.680 if the team's picking ahead of the Bengals can't convince themselves that either their offensive 58 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.719 coordinator will know how to use Brock powers so that he fits the offense, 59 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:19.959 or that it's worth using a pick on a big slot type who can line 60 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:23.879 up in line a little bit, depending on your opinion of brock Powers or 61 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.959 if they see him as a guy who can line up in line more or 62 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:31.240 less. So there might be some creativity required to draft back brock Powers early. 63 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.920 But in this scenario, he's not available. So you're considering Newton, 64 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:41.240 you're considering Murphy, you're considering Arnold, you're considering Latham, you're considering Memes. 65 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.199 I think as the primary guys that you're considering if you're the Cincinnati Bengals 66 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.759 GM at eighteen, and those are the guys available to you here. I 67 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.839 think Nate Wiggins from the way you know we've talked about this, from the 68 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.480 way he weighed in, has lost some of his first round at least mid 69 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.560 first round value, might still get picked in the first round yep. And 70 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.199 Cooper de Gene is a guy that maybe we haven't talked about enough, but 71 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:10.000 is a guy that doesn't feel like a direction of the Bengals need to go, 72 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.759 and that's why we haven't talked about him. They don't need another versatile 73 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:19.319 defensive back. I would they have enough? Yeah, they've bolstered. They 74 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:24.360 made that a priority in free agency, and they've spent multiple Day one and 75 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:27.800 day two picks to bolster that over the past couple of years, and so 76 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.639 unless it's a high end corner, I don't see a secondary pick, you 77 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.720 know, CB one type, and I don't think they'll necessarily view Cooper as 78 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.480 that. Not that he couldn't help, of course, but to me, 79 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:43.560 it's four guys Newton, Murphy, Latham, Mims, and I think our 80 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.519 listeners a lot of them will say, take Newton. I think the Bengals 81 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:53.399 have Murphy ahead of Newton. Me just speculating a full disclosure, I'm in 82 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:57.160 on one of these tackles here, in offensive tackles, Latham or Mims. 83 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.360 That's where I would go if this board plays out the way, does I 84 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.920 get it? Murphy and Newton are awesome. Adding one of those would be 85 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:08.079 huge. I also think that the drop off, and we've seen it when 86 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:12.560 we've done some of these mock draft mondays the drop off at offensive tackle it 87 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.680 is risky, and sometimes in this PFF simulator it doesn't happen. I think 88 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.319 in real life it will happen. I think offensive tackles are going to fly 89 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.279 off the board. So I don't know about you, Jake, I'm leaning 90 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:29.319 either Mims or or Latham here because I just think that offensive tackle takes it 91 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.199 breaks the tie when it's close, and I do think that these four prospects 92 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:38.360 are really close. Yeah, I think that I agree with you after recent 93 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:44.319 recent experience where we've seen that the offensive tackles don't make it to the second 94 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.480 round and you're just not getting a premium offensive tackle if you don't take one 95 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.040 with the Bengals eighteenth pick, and in a class where you can get a 96 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:56.279 really really good offensive tackle prospect for hopefully the last time for a long time, 97 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.920 because you're not going to be picking so early in the near future, 98 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.560 you capitalize on the opportunity. You could also make that argument for defensive tackle. 99 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.920 I think there's maybe a little bit of a better chance that you get 100 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:11.319 one of the back of the first round, but maybe recent history would tell 101 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.079 you that you're wrong there too. I would also look at the trade opportunities 102 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.319 here with four players were pretty comfortable with. I wouldn't want to go back 103 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:24.480 all the way to twenty five though. That's the top trade interest offered by 104 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.120 PFF there, with the Green Bay Packers at twenty five looking to come up 105 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.319 probably for like Cooper de Gen knowing the pack I don't know. I'm just 106 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.439 talking about the Packers out of the side of my mouth now, But I 107 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:38.480 know you're pretty high on various Mims. In the last week in particular, 108 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:43.120 you've really kind of come to a realization there. Yeah, And this is 109 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:46.560 that time of year where you start to find your guys, and I know 110 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.079 there's people worried about the playing time. I don't view Mims as a project. 111 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:54.759 I know he needs it, like has things to work on, but 112 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.759 he also just needs to get experience. And that's what I would say, 113 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.519 is it's not like he has thirty five starts and there's all these issues. 114 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.160 He just hasn't gotten on the field to tirn out some of those things. 115 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.199 And you're in a position to take a guy like Mims. So that's who 116 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:16.000 I would take. Consensus would take JC Latham, And even without the testing, 117 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.279 he's ahead of Mems on the consensus board, whether you look at big 118 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.839 boards, whether you look at just mock drafts and those type of things. 119 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.319 So I'm fine with Latham. If you're hearing that way, it feels like 120 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:30.120 we haven't taken Latham in a long time. I think he's like thirteenth on 121 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.000 offensive line consensus thirteenth overall. So I'm fine with Latham if you're leading that 122 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:37.440 way. I do believe in Mems. I love the upside, and I'm 123 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.720 totally comfortable taking him here. At eighteen two, the consensus board does have 124 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:46.960 Latham slightly ahead of Mems. Also, you can see the ADP in the 125 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.840 PFF simulator has Latham slightly ahead of Mems, but it's very close. And 126 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:56.320 twenty one versus twenty three in PFF at the audio. Yeah, sorry about 127 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:01.759 that. And the tiebreaker could just be that we have any sort of athletic 128 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.440 testing for a Marius Mems and we just do not for JC Latham. Any 129 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:13.600 educated assessment of his athleticism comes from eyeballing tape from eye test, and he 130 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.879 is not. Clearly he is not a top end athlete, but he moves 131 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.480 better than you would expect for a man of his size and of his bill. 132 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.360 But Amarius Mims has the same kind of build at six seven three forty 133 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:31.679 compared to Lathan's what about six six three forty, and he carries that weight 134 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.559 so differently. As I've said on this podcast before, one of the lowest 135 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.840 body fat percentages on the Georgia team I know we've taken him before. I'm 136 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.480 happy to take him again here using that athletic testing as a tiebreaker. But 137 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.720 I do really like Latham's tape and would be comfortable with him as well. 138 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:52.320 But you talk about a ceiling swing with Mims where you don't necessarily need him 139 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.879 to play right away. You can let him learn for a little bit behind 140 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.559 Trent Brown, and you can talk me to a Marius Men's really quickly. 141 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:01.759 Maybe he takes that job midway through the season. Maybe he takes that job 142 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.879 in camp. I think the sky is really a limit for a Marius men 143 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:07.960 So we will take him. We will circle back and see what is available 144 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:13.600 in round two coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by game 145 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.879 Time. You shouldn't have to sweat it out when looking for last minute tickets. 146 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:24.080 Game time well, they take all the frustrations out of finding tickets, 147 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.759 whether it's Reds tickets, whether it is Heck NFL draft tickets. 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Is that where we're looking first? Or Well? It's interesting 166 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.080 because people hear that and they run with it. I think that there's a 167 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.480 scenario where the run happens before forty nine and you have to punt on the 168 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.759 idea of a receiver. So let's look at the available receivers right now, 169 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.360 Roman Wilson, Ricky Pursaw, Jermaine Burton, Coleman, Jelen Polk, Jalen 170 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:09.320 McMillan. There's one guy of that group to me that could get forty nine 171 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:11.039 buzz. And I know a lot of people are on Rickey Pursol. I'm 172 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.519 worried that the Bengals view him as a slot only. And so to me, 173 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.519 Jermaine Burton, He's transferred to about fifty two different schools. He's attended 174 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.919 more colleges than you and me combined, Jake, And so I think it's 175 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.679 Keon Coleman potentially, and then that's it. Like Roman Wilson maybe, but 176 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.519 the production isn't there, doesn't really line up. And so when I say 177 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.679 second round receiver, I'm talking about the Troy Franklins, maybe Lad mcconki, 178 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.159 maybe Keon Coleman. But there's a very real chance where the bottom does drop 179 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:45.559 out a little bit and you pun on it at forty nine and you go 180 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:50.360 to round three and see what's available. So to me, I don't love 181 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:54.840 the Keon Coleman pick, but he's the only one here that I would consider 182 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:56.200 at forty nine, I think, because I just think Ricky Pursoll, they're 183 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.840 gonna view him as a slot only, even though I do like his game 184 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:05.600 and he clearly has a top of second round grade right now. Keyon Coleman 185 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.679 does on the board that we're working on with Joe Goodberry as we do every 186 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.000 year, just twenty one years old at the time of the draft, which 187 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.480 is a big factor in his favor. It's something that when you see guys 188 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.879 that don't test the best and they're still really young. This happened to Tyler 189 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.600 Boyd for example. It they still have and t Higgins too. Actually, 190 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:33.279 they can still put it together in the NFL, and there's reason to believe 191 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:39.799 that Coleman could be the kind of player that you would be looking for at 192 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.600 wide receiver for this offense. And you could you can see the fit. 193 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:48.399 Ricky Parsall, Roman Wilson a little bit older, both of them, actually, 194 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.159 I think significantly older. Roman Wilson going to be twenty three. Ricky 195 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.279 Parsall going to be twenty three and a half at the time of the draft, 196 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:01.440 and I actually like Parsol's tape a fair and Vola Wilson had a great 197 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:07.519 Senior Bowl and maybe is a little bit underrated by some. But the overall 198 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:13.080 profile there tells me that the Bengals would certainly shy away in the second round. 199 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.840 And of these guys, I think Coleman is the one that they would 200 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:22.120 be considering here in the second round, just from a analytics check marks, 201 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:28.600 check boxes checked. That's the guy that checks them for the Bengals. Outside 202 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.440 of that, looking at some of the other players at the top of the 203 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:35.559 board here for PFF, Zach Frasier, the interior offensive lineman center from West 204 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.679 Virginia. You still believe in Jatavion Sanders in the second round, you could 205 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.559 take him here. I don't think that that's where I am on Jatavian Sanders 206 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:48.279 at this point, but maybe the Bengals are with their tight end thirst Adiza 207 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.360 Isaac maybe the last player at edge. I know you're not very keen on 208 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:58.600 picking an edge player aggressively with a premium pick in most scenarios. Ruke of 209 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.879 Rovero, who we talk about a lot in the second round, Jonathan Brooks, 210 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.480 if you believe in Brook's ability to overcome that knee injury which remains to 211 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:11.240 be seen. The running back from Texas Chris Jenkins that if you're a Chris 212 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:16.159 Jenkins believer, also they are Christian Hayes. But there's nobody jumping out of 213 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.320 me and saying, you know, you have to pick this guy here, 214 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.519 which is why. Besides Zach Fraser, who you've taken before, we've gone 215 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.360 tackle into Zach Fraser before, which I would like to do again. But 216 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.519 if we wanted to do something different for the sake of doing something different, 217 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.320 I would actually be back at wide receiver. Yeah, I'm between two guys 218 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:39.200 here, and part of it is for the lack of variety with Zach Frazier. 219 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.000 We've done that before in this PFF mock and round two. To me, 220 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:45.919 it's it's two guys. It's ruke a Roro Row and it's Keon Coleman, 221 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.440 and those are the two I land on. I think it's a little 222 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.120 early for Kyrie Jackson out of Oregon. The corner. He's the top corner 223 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.919 available according to PFF. So that's where I'm at. You can break the 224 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:00.159 tie. I'm totally comfortable with Ruke, comfortable with Keon. We know I 225 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:04.639 like my weapons. He's probably the last one in that tier before it does 226 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:10.120 drop off. So I do wonder what he will be in the NFL. 227 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:11.600 But I do think right away he could contribute in the slot. You could 228 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:17.120 put him outside some and he can help you. I do wonder if they'll 229 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:22.600 view him as the future tea long term, and that's that's kind of a 230 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.039 question. At the same time, if you want to go that route, 231 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:27.279 I'm fine with it. I'm also fine with going with Ruke. Those are 232 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:32.759 my two I would I'm just for those not watching on YouTube, navigated over 233 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:36.279 to the defensive interior section just to see what other players are there, because 234 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:44.120 I know they're much lower onto Vandre Sweat and Michael Hall then perhaps some sure 235 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:48.000 and Ruke. Rovero actually is very divisive as far as our film graders go. 236 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.639 Between draft guy Jared and Sands that got, We've got a big split 237 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.360 on those guys. His consensus has him more at the top of the third 238 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:02.639 round than at this point in the second round. Devandres wet By consensus is 239 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.359 this, This is exactly where he should be picked PFF much lower on him, 240 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.359 and I know we picked him, and I think we picked him in 241 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.839 the second round of one of our three last week. He's got by far 242 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:18.720 the highest film grades out of the guys available on this list. And I 243 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.759 want to shout out Brandon Dorless here as well as a guy that I think 244 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.480 could make sense for the Bengals. But this is probably just a little bit 245 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:30.200 earlier then you'd want to pick him. And I'm sure if we scroll down 246 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.359 quite a way, is Mason Smith there, who's been recently mocked to the 247 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.200 Bengals in the second round not somebody that James and I would consider here. 248 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.839 I would consider Devandre Swet here. James again, sure, But Kean Coleman, 249 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.960 you can make an argument that he's a big slot right away. He 250 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:51.440 can compete outside. He's not necessarily a guy that can only play one role. 251 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.039 He can be a yards after catch guy. I think that's actually a 252 00:17:55.079 --> 00:18:00.880 strength in his game, a short area quickness guy, despite not having the 253 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.839 long speed. Where it shows up for him is the quick agility in and 254 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:07.960 out of breaks. He should be good in the short and intermediate part of 255 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.359 the field immediately, even if he doesn't have the long speed, so that's 256 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.880 where you can come back to Keon Coleman. I think that this will be 257 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.279 the first time he picked Keon Coleman here in the second round, and there 258 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:25.200 is some risk there. Yeah, but you could talk me into Keon Coleman 259 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:26.640 here. Yeah. I mean, that's the way it feels like you're leaning. 260 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:32.400 I probably let's go with Keon to switch it up. I think Rouke 261 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:34.960 is too tempting at this stage. But I also think that we can get 262 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.359 some defensive line help with one of those round three picks. So let's just 263 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.039 for the sake of it, go wide receiver. 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This better help dot com slash 280 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.319 locked on today to get ten percent off your first month. That's Better Help 281 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:03.119 HLP dot com slash locked on. Third round, got three picks to make 282 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.480 James, We're gonna have to speed up a little bit here and just looking 283 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:08.319 at some of the guys that we discussed with the last pick before we get 284 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:14.400 into it. Jonathan Brooks of course picked Jalen Wright picked. We didn't talk 285 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:15.599 about him, but a half back I would have been happy to pick. 286 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.559 In the third round. Tavan Vis what goes just three picks before our pick 287 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:23.119 eighty Javon Baker, a wide receiver. I would have really liked one pick 288 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.279 before we pick an eighty and the wide receiver run did happen. Yeah, 289 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.200 I was looking. That's the argument. Yep, that's the argument for it 290 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.440 for sure. And here in the third round, your top wide receiver option 291 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.160 is Johnny Wilson, Jamari Thrash, Malachi Corley, Brendan Rice, who would 292 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:41.759 all be fine third round picks, I think, but are a step down. 293 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:48.000 I think in the slot maybe not right, but like Corley feels like 294 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.160 a slot only right now, Johnny Wilson feels like more of a project than 295 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.079 than Keon Coleman. I think it might end up being a tight end. 296 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:00.279 He's just built built for it. But there's some good players available. Blake 297 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.680 Fisher falling to round three, the double down at tackle, I think could 298 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:08.680 certainly happen here. But you mentioned Devandre Sweat, and I know a lot 299 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.920 of people have Sweat at forty nine. I think there's a very real chance 300 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.680 he does fall to eighty, and he does fall to the third round, 301 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.559 and the Bengals may end up having a third round grade on him and a 302 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.839 lot of NFL teams can end up having a third round grade on him, 303 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:25.240 So just throwing that out there. But here, obviously we're in the defensive 304 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.960 tackle market. I think the interior offensive line is certainly something we're looking at 305 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:30.599 now. At the stage of the draft, this is when we really start 306 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:36.039 to consider running back as well. Cornerback is always in play. But to 307 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:40.640 me, Michael Hall Junior still being there. This is why you put potentially 308 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.759 pass on Rouke is because the wide receiver run happened, where you get that 309 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:48.640 guy that can play outside and inside, and you still have a Michael Hall 310 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:53.400 Junior, you still have a Dwayne Carter, and you still have some options. 311 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.039 As far as the interior offensive line, Cooper Bebe still there. I 312 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.920 think he's probably the top guy available. Sed Van Prawn out of Georgia, 313 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:06.079 Christian Mahogany out of Boston College some names to keep in mind. Cooper Beebe 314 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.319 would be the one for me out of that group, but yeah, Blake 315 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:11.839 Fisher is still there too, So if you did want to double down at 316 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.440 tackle, that one would be interesting. But to me, I think there's 317 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:21.240 some interesting interior spots is, especially at defensive tackle. Yeah, I don't 318 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.680 think Michael Hall is there in the third raft. I think Sweat has I 319 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:27.240 think Sweat has a better chance to make it to eighty than Hull. He 320 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:33.559 just has a special pass rushing ability that doesn't really exist in large quantities in 321 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.839 this draft. And maybe he should have gone back for one year. I 322 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.240 don't know if anybody actually thinks that maybe he needs to round out his game, 323 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:44.160 maybe he needs a little bit of time. Mike Hall, how old 324 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:48.759 is he? Just trying to find him in our sheet here? I am 325 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.799 not seeing him. This is insane? Is he not in our sheet? 326 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.680 There? He is? He is turning twenty one after the draft. Can't 327 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:03.720 even have a legal beer to celebrate being drafted. Michael Hall, And like 328 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:10.440 I said, really good athletic testing and in a really strong pass rushing profile. 329 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:12.880 And I know a lot of you are thinking they need to get better 330 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.799 stopping the run up front. Defensively, I'm not taking McKinley Jackson here. 331 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:27.960 I'm not taking Christian Boyd or Logan Lee or the Kevin Anderson's Florida Atlantic Justin 332 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.960 Rogers. I'm not taking those body types here in the third round. But 333 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:33.920 if I were to take an defensive tackle to start. I would take Michael 334 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.799 Hall if he were available. If Blake Fisher is available, which he won't 335 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:42.079 be, I would sprint in the pick for Blake Fisher and happily double down 336 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:48.039 at tackle with Blake Fisher and in the third round. But Tray Benson he's 337 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.720 available in the third round. Also very happy to pick Trey Benson in the 338 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.880 third round. So those are the ones that stand out to me. I 339 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.000 think that, you know, if we're if we're acknowledging the Michael Hall's actually 340 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.400 happy to take Michael Hall because I think there's a big drop off after Michael 341 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.279 Hall looking at this list. Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously comfortable doing 342 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:12.279 that. I think this idea that they have to take a nose tackle on 343 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:18.599 day two, it's all about value and in how they're approaching it seems to 344 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.839 be the right way. Just with visits, and again you shouldn't read too 345 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:25.960 much into visits, but taking the big body nose tack those guys go on 346 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:29.920 day three, they just do. Now, Sweat is this all world guy 347 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.960 and they view him that way. Maybe he goes day two and that's why 348 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.599 I say there's a chance that he falls to eighty there's a very real chance. 349 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.519 On Friday night of the draft, everyone's like, oh my god, 350 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.640 Tom Andrey Sweat is still there. Well, I gotta take him, and 351 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:45.440 who knows if they take him. I'm not saying that's a lock. Michael 352 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.079 Hall at eighty. I'm fine with it. There's a chance. And when 353 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.559 you throw in the age, I say we do it, Jake, I 354 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:56.799 say we take advantage of the simulator. Well, grab Michael Hall here and 355 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.680 the running back run, meaning there was a running back pick. Trey Benson 356 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:06.200 Bucky Irving both picked between the bengals eightieth pick and their compensatory pick, and 357 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.160 the third around Blake Fisher goes just a couple of picks later. Blake Korum 358 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:19.000 also drafted. And what else to the Ravens. That's interesting. Cedric van 359 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:22.920 pron Brendan Rice still there. I don't think he will be, but he 360 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.640 could be. Dominic Pooney available. I think you want to address the interior 361 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:29.960 of the offensive line, and that's a guy that could certainly do it. 362 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:34.359 Yeah, I think Dominic Pooney would be my pick here, just just skimming 363 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.160 the top of the PFF board a little bit. I think that's a guy 364 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:42.319 that can play inside in the NFL, maybe even as best serve to go 365 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.000 inside in the NFL. I think there are some people that really like Cedric 366 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:51.440 van Prinne from Georgia, but Dominic Pooney is a guy that I would be 367 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.759 pretty comfortable with here me too. He's the one that pops out. Let's 368 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.119 take him and see what we can do in round four, because what you 369 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:00.759 hope is that the running back you would take here is still their next round, 370 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.240 or the corner you would take here is still their next round. And 371 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:07.920 I don't think anyone's going to have an issue with us doubling down with another 372 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.880 offensive lineman, so let's do it. The downside I point out for Pooney 373 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.319 is that he is like one of the oldest players in the draft period at 374 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.440 twenty four. Cedric van pran twenty two. The thing about getting a twenty 375 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:23.599 four year old, though, and Joe Goodberry recently did some really interesting tweets 376 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.319 on this topic, is that you can expect him to come in and play 377 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:32.319 with a higher floor earlier, and so that could be something that would be 378 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:37.160 really nice as an interior option. I would say that bo Limmer, despite 379 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.079 getting bent in half by Tavandre Squad at the Singer Bowl is a solid player 380 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:42.640 that you should consider the back of the third round, top of the fourth 381 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:47.119 round, and if Coober, BB Zac Center are there in real life at 382 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:51.400 this point, I know Zach Center had the injury and he actually could be 383 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:56.240 there BB, I'd be shocked. BB feels more like a second round pick 384 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.000 than an end of third round pick. But if we would acknowledge a BB's 385 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.200 actually here, that would easily easily be the pick. I would have probably 386 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:07.680 taken him at eighty, you know, like I think he was in consideration 387 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.960 at forty nine. I don't want to cheat it too much and give our 388 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.480 listeners, but yeah, Boebe would obviously be the pick. Matt Conclaves from 389 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.960 Pittsburgh another name Judis throw out there, But yeah, I say we take 390 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.200 Dominic Pooney and see what's what's there in round four so far? If you 391 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.880 tell me they get a Marius mims Keyon Coleman, Michael Hall Junior, and 392 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.440 Dominic Pooney. The trenches bolstered, you have a weapon for Burrow and you 393 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:37.079 still have six picks to bolster the rest of that room. Just thrown it 394 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.240 out there tight end wise, this isle before in the fourth round is which 395 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.319 of these guys well, like Ben Sinnet Makot in the fourth round, or 396 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.200 are they comfortable with Eric Hall's medicals to take him in the fourth round. 397 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.599 That's why I just wanted to check tight end real quick. Jahem Bell. 398 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.000 That's those are probably the two guys. There are people on in on Kate 399 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.799 Stover. I'm not sure I'm in on him that early, and there's like 400 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.920 there's like four or five tight ends I'm actually in on in this There's there's 401 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.279 not a ton And that's why I'm so high on the idea of Bowers at 402 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.160 eighteen. If he's there and we've got one more pick to make here in 403 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:12.759 the fourth round, Xavier Thomas, an edge player the Bengals have expressed interest 404 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:17.079 in from Clemson, picked at ninety nine. Just a couple of picks after 405 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.960 our pick. Brandon Rice goes one oh two, Cedric van Pran one oh 406 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.039 four, Ray Davis, Marshawn Lloyd, a couple of running backs at one 407 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.920 of five and one oh six, Bill Limmer one o nine. Eric All 408 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.960 won ten and it looks like if we wanted to go tight end here, 409 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.880 we could go Ben Sennett, who I would happily take in the fourth round, 410 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:40.000 like happily take in the fourth round running back. Just looking at who's 411 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.119 available here, the guys that I would well. The guy that I would 412 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:48.119 consider most is Oddric Estimee who helped himself quite a bit with a forty at 413 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.000 his pro day that was much better than what he did at the Combine. 414 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:57.440 Tyrone, Tracy Braylan Allen also interesting names. Will Shipley Isaac Correndo also interesting 415 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.559 names. But if I were to pick one in the fourth found out of 416 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:04.599 this list, it would be Estima. But I think that with those options 417 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.200 at bunning back, I would be more interested here in going with the tight 418 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.599 end. Benson. Sure if he's here, and there's a lot of buzz 419 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.039 around him, so who knows if he is here, I'm comfortable there. 420 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.839 I'm comfortable with Rodric estime Those are the two that I would ie. Leonard 421 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:26.079 Taylor still available for those wondering about defensive line and potentially taking one in the 422 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.880 mid rounds. That's a guy that could pay, that could be on the 423 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.440 radar. Jarvis Brownlee Junior of Louisville. Cam Hart with his traits at Notre 424 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.799 Dame available at corner as well. I think heart you can get him in 425 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.240 round five, pick one nine, certainly i'd be in on that. McKinley, 426 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.839 Jackson, Christian Boyd, Mackai Winda, Wingo, Mason Smith all available, 427 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.559 and I think some of those guys will be available on Draft Knight and 428 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:53.799 Fall, Justin Rogers, Jordan Jefferson. And that's why when you're looking for 429 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:59.799 that big interior presence, that the Bengals are probably going to wait and take 430 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.119 another tackle on Day three. That said, if Ben Senatet's there, I 431 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.880 think you take him, and I think you probably consider him earlier, but 432 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.039 the fact that he's still there, I'm totally comfortable doing it. Yeah, 433 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.279 and PFF has his average draft position actually much later at one thirty five. 434 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.480 I'm happy to take Ben senate here. I think that if this were the 435 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.160 way the first four rounds went, I would be looking to get back to 436 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.880 the defensive interior in the fifth round, most likely looking for that nose tackle 437 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:33.200 type in the fifth or sixth round, looking for a corner somewhere in this 438 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.240 range as well, because there were some corners there with that fourth round pick, 439 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.759 Jarvis Brownley in particular, that I would have been happy to take as 440 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.680 well. But Amarius Men's key On Coleman, Michael Hall, Dominic Pooney, 441 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.720 Ben Senate. The offense heavy draft that I think a lot of us are 442 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:53.119 expecting after the run of premium picks spent on defensive players, and we sprinkled 443 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:59.880 in one. I think pretty high upside defensive interior player there as well. 444 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.039 There's some upside in this draft James in general, with the young key On 445 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:08.680 Coleman coming into the NFL. Amarus Mims obviously has traits for days, and 446 00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:14.400 Ben Sinnett I think could develop into a better player in the NFL, a 447 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.279 more productive player in the NFL than he was at Kansas State. Yeah. 448 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.880 No, I think that this is a semi realistic Hall with Michael Hall, 449 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.759 Coleman, Mims, Poony and Senate and maybe it's Senate in round three and 450 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.000 then Poony falls at around four. I'm not sure the exact order of how 451 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.160 it will go, but I could certainly see it. And Yeah, I 452 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.799 think that this is a realistic mock. We didn't take the reaches, so 453 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.759 to speak, and it gives everyone an idea of what could happen on Draft 454 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:51.920 night, so hopefully enjoyed it. We are eighteen days away. Eighteen days 455 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:56.440 away, as we record this on Sunday afternoon, so kind of wild Jake 456 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.200 that we're almost there. I mean, we have two more craft Mondays and 457 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:05.119 then we'll have our our predictions, our predictive predictive, and then we have 458 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.079 to figure out what we think will happen instead of just going through these. 459 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.960 A lot's going to change on the simulators. I think a lot's going to 460 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.599 change, but so far, have a big Georgia pro Day April ten. 461 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.519 This week we're expecting Amarius Men's and Brock powers to work out. But that's 462 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.039 going to do it for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Until next 463 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.160 time, thanks for listening, who Day and have a good one.