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it, James. Today we dive back into another mock draft Monday. We're
back on the PFF simulator today. We got through three mocks. Last time
we did a mocked off Monday. Today, we're back to just do them
one, but to spice things up, we're adding a whole round. I
mean, whoa well, I fix four? Whoa oh crazy? On the
Lockdown Bengals podcast here, James, you haven't been more excited for a mock
draft Monday ever. That's why I hit you with the let's go before the
intro. Jake Lisco is as excited as I've seen him, and I think
Bengals fans would be excited if the board played out this way. I wouldn't
because the Vikings take brock Powers by the way, the Vikings aren't going to
take brock Bowers, but brock Bowers off the board, Roma doing Day off
the board, Talise Fuaga to Brian Callahan and the Titans because Joe Alt goes
to the Giants. Hey, if you're the Giant, you got to build
around Daniel Jones and that quarterback makes sense. Olufushanu almost falling to the Bengals,
gets picked at sixteen, Brian Thomas to the Colts at fifteen, Quinyon
Mitchell to the Raiders at thirteen, Dallas Turner off the board to the Saints.
Laatu Latu off the board, at seventeen, and so Jake, it's
Cherson Newton, Johnny Newton, Byron Murphy, Terry and Arnold, J.
C. Latham, Nate Wiggins, Amarius Mims. Hey, say what you
want? Some really good dudes on the board. And I think that's the
beauty of this eighteenth pick, Jake is no matter how you slice it,
there's usually someone that we hold in high regard available when the Bengals are on
the clock at eighteen. Maybe it doesn't break that way on Draft night,
but it feels like the chances are pretty high that there's going to be a
high end defensive tackle, high end offensive tackle, a high end player overall
available at number eighteen. Yeah. I think they will. We'll certainly be
a high end player and it will be a position that fits. There's no
real way to first case scenario where it's an actual doomsday for the Bengals when
you're picking eighteen, When you're picking at the back of the first round,
you could say, ah, man, none of these guys we want actually
will fall. And we've seen that kind of happen for the Bengals a little
bit the last couple of years, where they haven't gotten one of the guys
that we were hoping would fall to them, even if we liked the DACKX
He'll pick a couple of years ago, and you could understand the upside with
an athletic edge rusher like Miles Murphy this year, picking much earlier in the
round. With the depth of talent at the top of the draft, the
four quarterbacks expected to be picked at least before the Bengals pick at eighteen,
a number of wide receivers that will be picked before the Bengals pick at eighteen.
There will be somebody there, whether it's a defensive tackle, whether it's
an offensive tackle, whether it's a corner, whether it's Brock Bowers, there
will be a player available to the Bengals baby that we like. Now.
A lot of not machine mocks, let's call them expert mox do have black
Powers available to the Bengals at eighteen, and there's a realistic chance that happens
if the team's picking ahead of the Bengals can't convince themselves that either their offensive
coordinator will know how to use Brock powers so that he fits the offense,
or that it's worth using a pick on a big slot type who can line
up in line a little bit, depending on your opinion of brock Powers or
if they see him as a guy who can line up in line more or
less. So there might be some creativity required to draft back brock Powers early.
But in this scenario, he's not available. So you're considering Newton,
you're considering Murphy, you're considering Arnold, you're considering Latham, you're considering Memes.
I think as the primary guys that you're considering if you're the Cincinnati Bengals
GM at eighteen, and those are the guys available to you here. I
think Nate Wiggins from the way you know we've talked about this, from the
way he weighed in, has lost some of his first round at least mid
first round value, might still get picked in the first round yep. And
Cooper de Gene is a guy that maybe we haven't talked about enough, but
is a guy that doesn't feel like a direction of the Bengals need to go,
and that's why we haven't talked about him. They don't need another versatile
defensive back. I would they have enough? Yeah, they've bolstered. They
made that a priority in free agency, and they've spent multiple Day one and
day two picks to bolster that over the past couple of years, and so
unless it's a high end corner, I don't see a secondary pick, you
know, CB one type, and I don't think they'll necessarily view Cooper as
that. Not that he couldn't help, of course, but to me,
it's four guys Newton, Murphy, Latham, Mims, and I think our
listeners a lot of them will say, take Newton. I think the Bengals
have Murphy ahead of Newton. Me just speculating a full disclosure, I'm in
on one of these tackles here, in offensive tackles, Latham or Mims.
That's where I would go if this board plays out the way, does I
get it? Murphy and Newton are awesome. Adding one of those would be
huge. I also think that the drop off, and we've seen it when
we've done some of these mock draft mondays the drop off at offensive tackle it
is risky, and sometimes in this PFF simulator it doesn't happen. I think
in real life it will happen. I think offensive tackles are going to fly
off the board. So I don't know about you, Jake, I'm leaning
either Mims or or Latham here because I just think that offensive tackle takes it
breaks the tie when it's close, and I do think that these four prospects
are really close. Yeah, I think that I agree with you after recent
recent experience where we've seen that the offensive tackles don't make it to the second
round and you're just not getting a premium offensive tackle if you don't take one
with the Bengals eighteenth pick, and in a class where you can get a
really really good offensive tackle prospect for hopefully the last time for a long time,
because you're not going to be picking so early in the near future,
you capitalize on the opportunity. You could also make that argument for defensive tackle.
I think there's maybe a little bit of a better chance that you get
one of the back of the first round, but maybe recent history would tell
you that you're wrong there too. I would also look at the trade opportunities
here with four players were pretty comfortable with. I wouldn't want to go back
all the way to twenty five though. That's the top trade interest offered by
PFF there, with the Green Bay Packers at twenty five looking to come up
probably for like Cooper de Gen knowing the pack I don't know. I'm just
talking about the Packers out of the side of my mouth now, But I
know you're pretty high on various Mims. In the last week in particular,
you've really kind of come to a realization there. Yeah, And this is
that time of year where you start to find your guys, and I know
there's people worried about the playing time. I don't view Mims as a project.
I know he needs it, like has things to work on, but
he also just needs to get experience. And that's what I would say,
is it's not like he has thirty five starts and there's all these issues.
He just hasn't gotten on the field to tirn out some of those things.
And you're in a position to take a guy like Mims. So that's who
I would take. Consensus would take JC Latham, And even without the testing,
he's ahead of Mems on the consensus board, whether you look at big
boards, whether you look at just mock drafts and those type of things.
So I'm fine with Latham. If you're hearing that way, it feels like
we haven't taken Latham in a long time. I think he's like thirteenth on
offensive line consensus thirteenth overall. So I'm fine with Latham if you're leading that
way. I do believe in Mems. I love the upside, and I'm
totally comfortable taking him here. At eighteen two, the consensus board does have
Latham slightly ahead of Mems. Also, you can see the ADP in the
PFF simulator has Latham slightly ahead of Mems, but it's very close. And
twenty one versus twenty three in PFF at the audio. Yeah, sorry about
that. And the tiebreaker could just be that we have any sort of athletic
testing for a Marius Mems and we just do not for JC Latham. Any
educated assessment of his athleticism comes from eyeballing tape from eye test, and he
is not. Clearly he is not a top end athlete, but he moves
better than you would expect for a man of his size and of his bill.
But Amarius Mims has the same kind of build at six seven three forty
compared to Lathan's what about six six three forty, and he carries that weight
so differently. As I've said on this podcast before, one of the lowest
body fat percentages on the Georgia team I know we've taken him before. I'm
happy to take him again here using that athletic testing as a tiebreaker. But
I do really like Latham's tape and would be comfortable with him as well.
But you talk about a ceiling swing with Mims where you don't necessarily need him
to play right away. You can let him learn for a little bit behind
Trent Brown, and you can talk me to a Marius Men's really quickly.
Maybe he takes that job midway through the season. Maybe he takes that job
in camp. I think the sky is really a limit for a Marius men
So we will take him. We will circle back and see what is available
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we would not have gotten one of the tackles we would have been comfortable
with in the second round Night by one pick Kingsley Swia Mattia. Who is
my favorite second round idea at tackle going at forty eight to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
And what direction are you thinking here, James? I know you love
that second round receiver idea right now. I know you think that's where the
value is. Is that where we're looking first? Or Well? It's interesting
because people hear that and they run with it. I think that there's a
scenario where the run happens before forty nine and you have to punt on the
idea of a receiver. So let's look at the available receivers right now,
Roman Wilson, Ricky Pursaw, Jermaine Burton, Coleman, Jelen Polk, Jalen
McMillan. There's one guy of that group to me that could get forty nine
buzz. And I know a lot of people are on Rickey Pursol. I'm
worried that the Bengals view him as a slot only. And so to me,
Jermaine Burton, He's transferred to about fifty two different schools. He's attended
more colleges than you and me combined, Jake, And so I think it's
Keon Coleman potentially, and then that's it. Like Roman Wilson maybe, but
the production isn't there, doesn't really line up. And so when I say
second round receiver, I'm talking about the Troy Franklins, maybe Lad mcconki,
maybe Keon Coleman. But there's a very real chance where the bottom does drop
out a little bit and you pun on it at forty nine and you go
to round three and see what's available. So to me, I don't love
the Keon Coleman pick, but he's the only one here that I would consider
at forty nine, I think, because I just think Ricky Pursoll, they're
gonna view him as a slot only, even though I do like his game
and he clearly has a top of second round grade right now. Keyon Coleman
does on the board that we're working on with Joe Goodberry as we do every
year, just twenty one years old at the time of the draft, which
is a big factor in his favor. It's something that when you see guys
that don't test the best and they're still really young. This happened to Tyler
Boyd for example. It they still have and t Higgins too. Actually,
they can still put it together in the NFL, and there's reason to believe
that Coleman could be the kind of player that you would be looking for at
wide receiver for this offense. And you could you can see the fit.
Ricky Parsall, Roman Wilson a little bit older, both of them, actually,
I think significantly older. Roman Wilson going to be twenty three. Ricky
Parsall going to be twenty three and a half at the time of the draft,
and I actually like Parsol's tape a fair and Vola Wilson had a great
Senior Bowl and maybe is a little bit underrated by some. But the overall
profile there tells me that the Bengals would certainly shy away in the second round.
And of these guys, I think Coleman is the one that they would
be considering here in the second round, just from a analytics check marks,
check boxes checked. That's the guy that checks them for the Bengals. Outside
of that, looking at some of the other players at the top of the
board here for PFF, Zach Frasier, the interior offensive lineman center from West
Virginia. You still believe in Jatavion Sanders in the second round, you could
take him here. I don't think that that's where I am on Jatavian Sanders
at this point, but maybe the Bengals are with their tight end thirst Adiza
Isaac maybe the last player at edge. I know you're not very keen on
picking an edge player aggressively with a premium pick in most scenarios. Ruke of
Rovero, who we talk about a lot in the second round, Jonathan Brooks,
if you believe in Brook's ability to overcome that knee injury which remains to
be seen. The running back from Texas Chris Jenkins that if you're a Chris
Jenkins believer, also they are Christian Hayes. But there's nobody jumping out of
me and saying, you know, you have to pick this guy here,
which is why. Besides Zach Fraser, who you've taken before, we've gone
tackle into Zach Fraser before, which I would like to do again. But
if we wanted to do something different for the sake of doing something different,
I would actually be back at wide receiver. Yeah, I'm between two guys
here, and part of it is for the lack of variety with Zach Frazier.
We've done that before in this PFF mock and round two. To me,
it's it's two guys. It's ruke a Roro Row and it's Keon Coleman,
and those are the two I land on. I think it's a little
early for Kyrie Jackson out of Oregon. The corner. He's the top corner
available according to PFF. So that's where I'm at. You can break the
tie. I'm totally comfortable with Ruke, comfortable with Keon. We know I
like my weapons. He's probably the last one in that tier before it does
drop off. So I do wonder what he will be in the NFL.
But I do think right away he could contribute in the slot. You could
put him outside some and he can help you. I do wonder if they'll
view him as the future tea long term, and that's that's kind of a
question. At the same time, if you want to go that route,
I'm fine with it. I'm also fine with going with Ruke. Those are
my two I would I'm just for those not watching on YouTube, navigated over
to the defensive interior section just to see what other players are there, because
I know they're much lower onto Vandre Sweat and Michael Hall then perhaps some sure
and Ruke. Rovero actually is very divisive as far as our film graders go.
Between draft guy Jared and Sands that got, We've got a big split
on those guys. His consensus has him more at the top of the third
round than at this point in the second round. Devandres wet By consensus is
this, This is exactly where he should be picked PFF much lower on him,
and I know we picked him, and I think we picked him in
the second round of one of our three last week. He's got by far
the highest film grades out of the guys available on this list. And I
want to shout out Brandon Dorless here as well as a guy that I think
could make sense for the Bengals. But this is probably just a little bit
earlier then you'd want to pick him. And I'm sure if we scroll down
quite a way, is Mason Smith there, who's been recently mocked to the
Bengals in the second round not somebody that James and I would consider here.
I would consider Devandre Swet here. James again, sure, But Kean Coleman,
you can make an argument that he's a big slot right away. He
can compete outside. He's not necessarily a guy that can only play one role.
He can be a yards after catch guy. I think that's actually a
strength in his game, a short area quickness guy, despite not having the
long speed. Where it shows up for him is the quick agility in and
out of breaks. He should be good in the short and intermediate part of
the field immediately, even if he doesn't have the long speed, so that's
where you can come back to Keon Coleman. I think that this will be
the first time he picked Keon Coleman here in the second round, and there
is some risk there. Yeah, but you could talk me into Keon Coleman
here. Yeah. I mean, that's the way it feels like you're leaning.
I probably let's go with Keon to switch it up. I think Rouke
is too tempting at this stage. But I also think that we can get
some defensive line help with one of those round three picks. So let's just
for the sake of it, go wide receiver. Let's go Keon Coleman,
and then we can circle back. We have three picks to make Jake three,
pick eighty, pick ninety seven, and pick one p fifteen. We
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HLP dot com slash locked on. Third round, got three picks to make
James, We're gonna have to speed up a little bit here and just looking
at some of the guys that we discussed with the last pick before we get
into it. Jonathan Brooks of course picked Jalen Wright picked. We didn't talk
about him, but a half back I would have been happy to pick.
In the third round. Tavan Vis what goes just three picks before our pick
eighty Javon Baker, a wide receiver. I would have really liked one pick
before we pick an eighty and the wide receiver run did happen. Yeah,
I was looking. That's the argument. Yep, that's the argument for it
for sure. And here in the third round, your top wide receiver option
is Johnny Wilson, Jamari Thrash, Malachi Corley, Brendan Rice, who would
all be fine third round picks, I think, but are a step down.
I think in the slot maybe not right, but like Corley feels like
a slot only right now, Johnny Wilson feels like more of a project than
than Keon Coleman. I think it might end up being a tight end.
He's just built built for it. But there's some good players available. Blake
Fisher falling to round three, the double down at tackle, I think could
certainly happen here. But you mentioned Devandre Sweat, and I know a lot
of people have Sweat at forty nine. I think there's a very real chance
he does fall to eighty, and he does fall to the third round,
and the Bengals may end up having a third round grade on him and a
lot of NFL teams can end up having a third round grade on him,
So just throwing that out there. But here, obviously we're in the defensive
tackle market. I think the interior offensive line is certainly something we're looking at
now. At the stage of the draft, this is when we really start
to consider running back as well. Cornerback is always in play. But to
me, Michael Hall Junior still being there. This is why you put potentially
pass on Rouke is because the wide receiver run happened, where you get that
guy that can play outside and inside, and you still have a Michael Hall
Junior, you still have a Dwayne Carter, and you still have some options.
As far as the interior offensive line, Cooper Bebe still there. I
think he's probably the top guy available. Sed Van Prawn out of Georgia,
Christian Mahogany out of Boston College some names to keep in mind. Cooper Beebe
would be the one for me out of that group, but yeah, Blake
Fisher is still there too, So if you did want to double down at
tackle, that one would be interesting. But to me, I think there's
some interesting interior spots is, especially at defensive tackle. Yeah, I don't
think Michael Hall is there in the third raft. I think Sweat has I
think Sweat has a better chance to make it to eighty than Hull. He
just has a special pass rushing ability that doesn't really exist in large quantities in
this draft. And maybe he should have gone back for one year. I
don't know if anybody actually thinks that maybe he needs to round out his game,
maybe he needs a little bit of time. Mike Hall, how old
is he? Just trying to find him in our sheet here? I am
not seeing him. This is insane? Is he not in our sheet?
There? He is? He is turning twenty one after the draft. Can't
even have a legal beer to celebrate being drafted. Michael Hall, And like
I said, really good athletic testing and in a really strong pass rushing profile.
And I know a lot of you are thinking they need to get better
stopping the run up front. Defensively, I'm not taking McKinley Jackson here.
I'm not taking Christian Boyd or Logan Lee or the Kevin Anderson's Florida Atlantic Justin
Rogers. I'm not taking those body types here in the third round. But
if I were to take an defensive tackle to start. I would take Michael
Hall if he were available. If Blake Fisher is available, which he won't
be, I would sprint in the pick for Blake Fisher and happily double down
at tackle with Blake Fisher and in the third round. But Tray Benson he's
available in the third round. Also very happy to pick Trey Benson in the
third round. So those are the ones that stand out to me. I
think that, you know, if we're if we're acknowledging the Michael Hall's actually
happy to take Michael Hall because I think there's a big drop off after Michael
Hall looking at this list. Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously comfortable doing
that. I think this idea that they have to take a nose tackle on
day two, it's all about value and in how they're approaching it seems to
be the right way. Just with visits, and again you shouldn't read too
much into visits, but taking the big body nose tack those guys go on
day three, they just do. Now, Sweat is this all world guy
and they view him that way. Maybe he goes day two and that's why
I say there's a chance that he falls to eighty there's a very real chance.
On Friday night of the draft, everyone's like, oh my god,
Tom Andrey Sweat is still there. Well, I gotta take him, and
who knows if they take him. I'm not saying that's a lock. Michael
Hall at eighty. I'm fine with it. There's a chance. And when
you throw in the age, I say we do it, Jake, I
say we take advantage of the simulator. Well, grab Michael Hall here and
the running back run, meaning there was a running back pick. Trey Benson
Bucky Irving both picked between the bengals eightieth pick and their compensatory pick, and
the third around Blake Fisher goes just a couple of picks later. Blake Korum
also drafted. And what else to the Ravens. That's interesting. Cedric van
pron Brendan Rice still there. I don't think he will be, but he
could be. Dominic Pooney available. I think you want to address the interior
of the offensive line, and that's a guy that could certainly do it.
Yeah, I think Dominic Pooney would be my pick here, just just skimming
the top of the PFF board a little bit. I think that's a guy
that can play inside in the NFL, maybe even as best serve to go
inside in the NFL. I think there are some people that really like Cedric
van Prinne from Georgia, but Dominic Pooney is a guy that I would be
pretty comfortable with here me too. He's the one that pops out. Let's
take him and see what we can do in round four, because what you
hope is that the running back you would take here is still their next round,
or the corner you would take here is still their next round. And
I don't think anyone's going to have an issue with us doubling down with another
offensive lineman, so let's do it. The downside I point out for Pooney
is that he is like one of the oldest players in the draft period at
twenty four. Cedric van pran twenty two. The thing about getting a twenty
four year old, though, and Joe Goodberry recently did some really interesting tweets
on this topic, is that you can expect him to come in and play
with a higher floor earlier, and so that could be something that would be
really nice as an interior option. I would say that bo Limmer, despite
getting bent in half by Tavandre Squad at the Singer Bowl is a solid player
that you should consider the back of the third round, top of the fourth
round, and if Coober, BB Zac Center are there in real life at
this point, I know Zach Center had the injury and he actually could be
there BB, I'd be shocked. BB feels more like a second round pick
than an end of third round pick. But if we would acknowledge a BB's
actually here, that would easily easily be the pick. I would have probably
taken him at eighty, you know, like I think he was in consideration
at forty nine. I don't want to cheat it too much and give our
listeners, but yeah, Boebe would obviously be the pick. Matt Conclaves from
Pittsburgh another name Judis throw out there, But yeah, I say we take
Dominic Pooney and see what's what's there in round four so far? If you
tell me they get a Marius mims Keyon Coleman, Michael Hall Junior, and
Dominic Pooney. The trenches bolstered, you have a weapon for Burrow and you
still have six picks to bolster the rest of that room. Just thrown it
out there tight end wise, this isle before in the fourth round is which
of these guys well, like Ben Sinnet Makot in the fourth round, or
are they comfortable with Eric Hall's medicals to take him in the fourth round.
That's why I just wanted to check tight end real quick. Jahem Bell.
That's those are probably the two guys. There are people on in on Kate
Stover. I'm not sure I'm in on him that early, and there's like
there's like four or five tight ends I'm actually in on in this There's there's
not a ton And that's why I'm so high on the idea of Bowers at
eighteen. If he's there and we've got one more pick to make here in
the fourth round, Xavier Thomas, an edge player the Bengals have expressed interest
in from Clemson, picked at ninety nine. Just a couple of picks after
our pick. Brandon Rice goes one oh two, Cedric van Pran one oh
four, Ray Davis, Marshawn Lloyd, a couple of running backs at one
of five and one oh six, Bill Limmer one o nine. Eric All
won ten and it looks like if we wanted to go tight end here,
we could go Ben Sennett, who I would happily take in the fourth round,
like happily take in the fourth round running back. Just looking at who's
available here, the guys that I would well. The guy that I would
consider most is Oddric Estimee who helped himself quite a bit with a forty at
his pro day that was much better than what he did at the Combine.
Tyrone, Tracy Braylan Allen also interesting names. Will Shipley Isaac Correndo also interesting
names. But if I were to pick one in the fourth found out of
this list, it would be Estima. But I think that with those options
at bunning back, I would be more interested here in going with the tight
end. Benson. Sure if he's here, and there's a lot of buzz
around him, so who knows if he is here, I'm comfortable there.
I'm comfortable with Rodric estime Those are the two that I would ie. Leonard
Taylor still available for those wondering about defensive line and potentially taking one in the
mid rounds. That's a guy that could pay, that could be on the
radar. Jarvis Brownlee Junior of Louisville. Cam Hart with his traits at Notre
Dame available at corner as well. I think heart you can get him in
round five, pick one nine, certainly i'd be in on that. McKinley,
Jackson, Christian Boyd, Mackai Winda, Wingo, Mason Smith all available,
and I think some of those guys will be available on Draft Knight and
Fall, Justin Rogers, Jordan Jefferson. And that's why when you're looking for
that big interior presence, that the Bengals are probably going to wait and take
another tackle on Day three. That said, if Ben Senatet's there, I
think you take him, and I think you probably consider him earlier, but
the fact that he's still there, I'm totally comfortable doing it. Yeah,
and PFF has his average draft position actually much later at one thirty five.
I'm happy to take Ben senate here. I think that if this were the
way the first four rounds went, I would be looking to get back to
the defensive interior in the fifth round, most likely looking for that nose tackle
type in the fifth or sixth round, looking for a corner somewhere in this
range as well, because there were some corners there with that fourth round pick,
Jarvis Brownley in particular, that I would have been happy to take as
well. But Amarius Men's key On Coleman, Michael Hall, Dominic Pooney,
Ben Senate. The offense heavy draft that I think a lot of us are
expecting after the run of premium picks spent on defensive players, and we sprinkled
in one. I think pretty high upside defensive interior player there as well.
There's some upside in this draft James in general, with the young key On
Coleman coming into the NFL. Amarus Mims obviously has traits for days, and
Ben Sinnett I think could develop into a better player in the NFL, a
more productive player in the NFL than he was at Kansas State. Yeah.
No, I think that this is a semi realistic Hall with Michael Hall,
Coleman, Mims, Poony and Senate and maybe it's Senate in round three and
then Poony falls at around four. I'm not sure the exact order of how
it will go, but I could certainly see it. And Yeah, I
think that this is a realistic mock. We didn't take the reaches, so
to speak, and it gives everyone an idea of what could happen on Draft
night, so hopefully enjoyed it. We are eighteen days away. Eighteen days
away, as we record this on Sunday afternoon, so kind of wild Jake
that we're almost there. I mean, we have two more craft Mondays and
then we'll have our our predictions, our predictive predictive, and then we have
to figure out what we think will happen instead of just going through these.
A lot's going to change on the simulators. I think a lot's going to
change, but so far, have a big Georgia pro Day April ten.
This week we're expecting Amarius Men's and Brock powers to work out. But that's
going to do it for this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Until next
time, thanks for listening, who Day and have a good one.