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All right. In joining us now
is Guard Goldsmith, And of course he

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has Liberty Conspiracy. He's got a
Liberty Conspiracy website. You can see him

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on Rumble on rock Fan. He's
just telling me he's giving YouTube a chance.

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Let's see what happens with that.
Good luck, and of course you

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can find him on Twitter at Guard
Goldsmith. Thank you for joining us,

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Guard, Thank you David, and
thank you for being just such a stellar

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supporter and personally for me, I
can't say enough good things about you.

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Thank you so much. Thank you. That's really kind. And I didn't

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mention the fact that he's got a
Sunday News thing that you can subscribe to

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wrap up as an excellent piece.
You do a great job of putting together

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several important and a lot of important
things that not everybody picks up on,

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you know, stuff that I don't
see there I see in your Sunday wrap

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up. So I would suggest everybody
subscribe to Guard Sunday wrap Up as well.

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Or what is it exactly, you
guys on your substack right, Yeah,

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it's on the Gardener Goals from substack, and I call it the Sunday

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News Assembly sort of you know,
reference to church that sort of thing getting

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together and I'm assembling the news though. Okay, all right, that's good.

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Yeah, so I would suggest that
to everybody. So what's on your

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plate? What are you thinking about
here? Well, first I'll just mention

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to do this Sunday news assembly over
at the substack. I was actually inspired

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by you because before you and I
were in contact, when I was working

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on that Marxism documentary for MRCTV,
I would tune into you every morning and

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I would be writing down stories that
you were covering and like, what's that

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website? I got to get to
that website and then I would send those

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story ideas to the editors at MRCTV
and they say, oh, this is

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great. Wow, you're doing such
amazing investigation. I was like, okay,

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fine, so there you go.
You are my AI, you are

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the AI. I'm a chat DK
right, we're here all the time.

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Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it
seems like that. But you know,

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and I wanted to you talk about
different stories that are out there. And

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I'm so glad that you have been
talking about the WHO situation because it's been

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very confusing and especially over the past
week or so to find out where they

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were backing down and where they weren't, and Daily Skeptic has been a very

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good site for that. And as
you mentioned James Ragusky, my hats off

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to him and literally in interviews giving
out his phone number and saying give me

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a call. We have to stop. This just just very admirable, admirable

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things to see. And I was
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you know, the bird flu pandemic, and it just made me think of

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one flew over the Cuckoo's nest with
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homonym rather than the same word,
you know, in his medication time is

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soon going to be medication time and
the nurse is going to ratchet this whole

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thing up in a pandemic if we
don't watch out. Yeah, it is

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interesting too because economists Robert Higgs would
talk about the rat effect and you really

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nailed it so well his book Crisis
and Leviathan, and he has a seql

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to it. He's done a lot
of work for the Mesa's Institute. One

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of the most admirable people. He's
got a terrific speech for a voluntary as

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a Christian Christian voluntarists like me,
he has a great speech at the Mesa's

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YouTube channel called the State is too
wicked to tolerate or something like that,

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and he goes through so many of
the things that it does and how it

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seeps into people. And that's one
of the things that ratcheting effect. Nurse

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Ratchet. It's perfectly apt because they
establish these things. They come up with

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the mcguffins. I was gonna wear
my mcguffin T shirt by the way,

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I have two. But they come
up with these mcguffins and then they hand

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out all that money. And it's
so important to try to get the local

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people, as you say, what
was it twenty two ages are going to

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be standing up against this saying we
will not comply. And as much as

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the federal pressures and the handouts of
money are so key, if you can

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really stress that to people on the
local level and say, look, your

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political future is not dependent on taking
money from Washington that you're not supposed to

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take. That's right. You have
an obligation to your locality. As you

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mentioned, you know we've got the
lesser magistrates. That's a very important point

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going back to running meed and I
think it's important to remember this heritage that's

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been handed to us, and they've
destroyed federalism in so many ways through this,

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you know, these tentacles of federal
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at least it's worth trying, and
I think we're seeing some movement there,

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so that's good. I agree.
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so much of this stuff is run
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through the schools because the money they
get to the schools, and so you've

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got some state reps have tried to
put through things saying we're going to pull

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back and not take any education money
from the federal government. That's going to

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be necessary. You're going to have
to do that. And even beyond that,

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you have to do that as a
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parent you have to say, well, I'm not going to take the free

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school because it's not free, you're
paying for it. But I'm not going

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to put my kids in that government
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education yourself and not have this pressure
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that you have to conform to whatever
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I thought it was a very good
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that as parents when we would go
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and they would have these books that
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needs to know, what your second
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go there. Karen and I would
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yeah, we should tell them about
this, but no, we're not going

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to tell them that, right and
this we're going to directly teach against will

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teach it and well and we'll deconstruct
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I mean you need to take that
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take control of your kids education and
say I'm not going to be bribed,

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I'm not going to be bullied by
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be blackmailed, and I'm not going
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if they come in and say,
are going to mandate this legally, now

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you got to get involved. But
right now, there's not a legal mandate

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that you have to do the homeschooling
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homeschooling thing that you've got to do
government school. So as long as that's

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not there, take that freedom and
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don't get caught up and saying,
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money because we want to have our
kids in sports. So we want to

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have our kids in band or something
like that. Do it yourself, you

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know, don't let yourself be set
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was really surprising that they would start
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level. But I think it's very
encouraging. Well, you know, getting

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back to this who thing. As
James Orguski has pointed out, they love

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to muddy the water and confuse people. It's one of the reasons why they

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started with these two different things,
because you would say, well, we

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don't want to do that, and
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wants to do. Oh well,
it doesn't say that at all. What

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they don't tell you is that that's
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and so they play that shell game, you know, moving it back

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and forth and so a lot of
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But I think people are really really
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government officials don't want to go back
and relitigate any of these scene crimes that

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were done against humanity, they still
a lot of people look at this and

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say, no, you're not going
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they may be willing to let this
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unfortunate, but they, I think, are starting to pay attention. At

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least a sizeable minority of people are
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So I think that's a very healthy
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David, in my work for MRCTV, and I know that in your

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work, we observe these things you
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you know, so you've got the
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know, it's manifestation of the same
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even though I'm feeling satisfied action with
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in expressing that I'm feeling some satisfaction
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say, Okay, the danger is
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We have to supply, and every
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say, is this a treaty?
Did you swear to the constitution? Are

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they going to try to do this
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Because if they are. Let's look
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whether those things are valid or invalid
based on their o's. And I'll give

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you a great anecdote, David,
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It was a charter school, and
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attorney come in. Every teacher had
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lawyer said, okay, you must
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I was relating the anecdote on Liberty
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ten minutes after six. I probably
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so I'm sitting there and you know, all the staff is there,

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and the attorney says, you've got
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to be you know, you got
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You know your words. And I
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chat earlier, I was lucky.
I was mentioning that when I taught,

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my classroom was actually in the library, so the librarian, who was very

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pro liberty, was always there to
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always had a witness as somebody claimed
that I had said something bad or you

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know, gone off the rails in
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It was great, it was terrific. And so and by the way,

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he's a listener of yours. By
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he's a he's a great guy,
great guy. And so so I'm

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sitting there and this man is saying, you know, you've got to conform

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to Title nine, and if you
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state could run a foul of getting
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I raised my hand. Nobody,
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the name of the school, and
I'm going to say the name of the

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school. It was called the Founder's
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I said, excuse me. He
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considering the fact that we are sitting
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supposed to be about the founding fathers
and so on, of course they wouldn't

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allow me to criticize Lincoln. And
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know, this is the Founder's academy. I said, he wasn't even a

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founder. He stood against everything the
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founded the modern state. I guess
the modern states. I guess he was.

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He's the ultimate founder. Now,
yes see where he founded it.

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He did the America that Yeah,
yeah, that's for sure. You make

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me think of the film Shannandoah again. What a fantastic film, and thank

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you for creating that music to go
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Oh? I love that movie.
I love it. I love so

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love that movie. I love that
song too, oh so good. And

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the way, just as an aside, the way they set up Jimmy Stewart's

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character because he's in between. He
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he doesn't want to be with the
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farm and his family. And it
said, you know, as a person

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who's anti state, the way that
they set it up to draw him in

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to have to deal with this,
and then as he tries to help his

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son. It is just a fantastic, fantastic story about personal choices, whether

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one takes revenge or doesn't take revenge, whether one sticks to Christian virtues.

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It's been so much in it.
You know, it had that relationship thing

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there where he's talking to his future
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yes, wasn't that Patrick Patrick Wayne? Is that Patrick Wayne. Yeah,

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the one. No, No,
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Doug McClure. But Patrick Wayne was
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already married at that point in time. That's yeah, that was That was

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really insightful. They had Jimmy Stewart
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like Jimmy Stewart at all, right, Jimmy Stwart's usual character. So he

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was really kind of gruff and angry
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a real chip on his shoulder,
perhaps because his wife had died with God,

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you know. And so he starts
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thanks for the food, even though
we planted it, we grew it,

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we've harvested it, we cooked it, but thanks nevertheless, you know that

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type of thing. And then it
wraps up with his son, who he's

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given up for dead, being given
back to him. It's just anoy and

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he gets it at and they meet
at church. You know. That was

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a and so it had so many
different aspects of it that were really it

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really was a wonderful film, unlike
anything you'd see today. Yeah, that's

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so true. I mean to me, it reminds me almost of something that

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Dostoevski would do, you know,
with crime and punishment or something like that,

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at an Americana level, with the
Civil War mixed. And it's just

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beautiful. And it's not that he's
a criminal or anything like that, but

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he has to learn and express himself
and understand God's power. And but yeah,

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So the the interesting thing is when
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academy, I said, since this
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note that this money is not constitutional? And the lawyer he nod and he

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said, well, you're right,
but that ship has sort of already sailed.

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That's how I get right. Yeah, so I said, are we

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on the SS Titanic because I'd like
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it is interesting, and I think
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very important. And they have the
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Yeah, so they you know,
they already shell out so much money

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that they're dangling these little treats over
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a moral level, whether I'm successful
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at least we did the noble action
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don't do that, future generations won't
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that's right. You have to do
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you know, even if the world
is going to end tomorrow and you know

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it, you've got to plant the
tree today. You know, that's that's

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the key, that's the attitude you
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a comment and a tip on Rumble
about what we're talking about here at junk

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Silver. Thank you very much.
Rights. Should we all stop calling this

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WHO nonsense a treaty? Are we
being tricked into giving this thing legitimacy by

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using that term? What do you
think guard? Yeah? Absolutely, because

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well, first of all, any
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WHO, that is, any in
any way under the UN and the treaties

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sound of the UN, those break
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So any original treaties signed with the
United Nations are bogus in the first

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place, and people should recognize that. But the World Health Organization, and

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hey, you know, as much
as I'm critical of Donald Trump, at

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least for a little while, and
maybe he was throwing people a curveball.

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At least he was not going to
fund the who maybe it was all for

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political purposes to try to you know, buy into things, you know,

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get people to buy into him as
somehow authentic for freedom. But it's not

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technically a treaty per se. And
even if it, and of course the

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health the regulations, what they're doing
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well, years ago you agreed to
these regulations. Now we're going to

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revise those regulations. And you don't
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They're just going to stand. That's
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and they you know, they even
if but even if you're using an

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app, you know, they change
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click yes as if you had it, which would never do right, right,

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right, And so I think by
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service. Here's what I think about
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of lean towards calling it a treaty. And the reason I do is because

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that gives us a mechanism to shut
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that an argument could be made that
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being brokered by a non governmental organization, a third party, you know,

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WHO or the UN or whatever,
what they're doing is they're bringing all these

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they're brokering it, right, but
you do have all these countries that are

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signing on to it. And so
then the question is, so, are

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we signing on to a treaty with
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are we signing all together coming together
and signing under this thing that was presented

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by them. I think that that's
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it gets fuzzy for me, and
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ask you, because I I look
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putting out and and this is where
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they're going to be putting it out
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put out as a new treaty with
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would have to approve. The President
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they would have to approve. So
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I don't know whether they're going to
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or it's going to be one of
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where they're going to try to implement
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that's an excellent question, and I
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better, but I just I just
don't know. Look at NAFTA, for

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example, right aft North American Free
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Accord, we have the pandemic.
They call that a treaty, right,

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look at NAFTA for example, right, that's US, Mexico and Canada.

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Uh, that was a treaty,
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that is, they have treaty lawyers
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so the people who would represent you
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in that bombination. Uh. They
corporations had legal parody to the to the

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governments or whatever, and and so
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people who would represent either party,
any of these parties, were called treaty

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lawyers, and so I think when
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by de facto is a treaty.
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our advantage, because if you look
at the Paris climate hoard, the argument

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going back and forth in the Trump
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environment who was one of the climate
alarmists, and Ivanka were saying no,

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no, no, don't do anything
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that that was the one area where
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that was good and that was in
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had been a state attorney general and
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encroachments, and so he had better
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the EPA thing. Of course it
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and given the fact they're not going
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best thing was that they had some
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lot of this agenda, and they
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rid of it. And so what
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I'm going to get rid of it, but I'm going to get rid

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of it after the election, after
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he said, well, this is
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was an agreement that was entered into
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I'm going to undo it. And
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you have Biden coming back into it. But Trump left it in for the

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entire four years, and so it
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say, well, we must do
this because we've got these goals that we've

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signed on to. It's therefore the
regulatory apparatus has to do these things so

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we can meet those goals, so
they have the effect of a treaty.

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But they never had a vote,
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McConnell never called a vote. And
Steve molloy I had him on. He

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was talking about the fact that we're
trying to put pressure on it, say

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call a vote on this thing now
before you're out, because they knew that

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they were losing their majority in the
Senate. But they never would. And

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Mitch McConnell, you know what was
put in in twenty fifteen. For most

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of that time, Mitch McConnell was
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of the Senate, and there wasn't
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should be an up or down vote
on the Paris climate accurt because they would

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have not it would not have made
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a good thing to say that we're
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do it, but the real power
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at the state level, I think
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is, and this is sort of
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address the question to him, because
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you know, the viewer's question,
I am not really sure. And I

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think I would love to talk to
James Ruguski to find out whether this is

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going to be put forward as a
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of the things when you and you've
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of Mitch McConnell is extremely revealing when
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accurds, and because you know,
with all their machinations inside and the ways

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that they can do things in their
various chambers, even not allowing something or

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allowing something to come out of a
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way these guys stand and how deceptive
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And so just as far as the
character of Minch McConnell goes, right

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there, you've got it. You
got it in a nutshell right there.

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It's a perfect example. He's part
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a global agenda which is on board
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another question here. This is from
Andromeda on rock Fan, thank you for

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the tip. He asks, what
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geospecial geospatial is like looking at where
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what it essentially, it's core thing
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and to analyze first of all,
to identify them, you know, what

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type of person is this religiously politically? Secondly, to put them on the

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map. And as part of that, they look at relationships that you have

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with other people. So they start
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people that are there. You see
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That's a kind of one small aspect
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part of it. But you know
when they started reporting about all the people

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who were who had financial transactions in
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Bank of America did that. But
even more importantly, you've had situations where

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the police of a crime was committed
somewhere, they would go to the cell

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phone companies or they go to the
cell phone you know, people who would

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have that information, and they would
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us all the people who were in
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that is really unconstitutional. It is
a warrantless search of a lot of

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different people, exposes people to jeopardy
when there's not really any basis to say

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that they participate in the crime.
So it is a big drag net.

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where people have challenged that. But geospatial

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intelligence is one way to identify people's
political and religious beliefs primarily, but they

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can look for other things, but
primarily as those two things, and then

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to map it out. And they're
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what these people are going to do
in the future and do it as a

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political weapon. You know. That's
the key thing about this is part of

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the politicization to censor people, to
put them on a list, and all

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the rest of this stuff. It
is kind of similar to what you say

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with the geo fencing, except it's
more extensive. I hope that answers your

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question. Would you add anything to
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you say it very very well.
And of course as an engineer you understand

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that this and let me know if
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I sort of view this as its
data collection, political propaganda's ps psychological engineering,

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and so that's the the end goal
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the data collection beforehand, and then
you want to get into some They try

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to get into some sort of predictive
templates to apply their propaganda to start to

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shift people's psychology. And it's very
clear what they try to do, and

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they've been doing it, of course, very successfully in the school systems for

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decades and through the media, and
I think one of the greatest manifestations of

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it is how you see Chris Cuomo
still holding on to this idea of well,

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you know, at the time,
I as a reporter was you know,

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I was fine. You know,
sure, Joe Rogan was right about

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ivermectin. Sure, but that's not
the that's not the point. It's like,

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no, actually, it is the
point there, buddy, that's the

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point. The point is, yeah, he was right. You demonized him,

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and you demonized him not because you
were a reporter, but because you

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are a propagandist and you got fed
information. And even now you're trying to

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claim that the position you had back
then was totally understandable, while it wasn't

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because some of us actually researched this
stuff. That's right, some of us.

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Yeah, And there were doctors,
thousands of doctors losing their licenses,

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losing their entire careers. Well,
that man, and by the way,

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I even mentioned on my show,
my nephew works for him now at that

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one News whatever. And he seems
like a pleasant guy. But you know,

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he's come grudgingly one step, but
he's got a lot of steps further

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to. You know, maybe somebody
could talk to him and say, hey,

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you kind of missed the boat there, and you need to give these

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people a little more credit because they
were right. And I hope you admit

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that you were wrong, and you
were wrong because you were lazy. And

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you type this information Scott Adams,
who holds himself forth as a sage and

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rock on tour Delbert cartoonist, and
he says, well, okay, these

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people just got lucky. Nobody could
have known that that was yes, we

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could. We all knew. We
knew, we knew the history, We

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knew what these people had been up
to for the longest time, and there

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wasn't any doubt about it. We
had the data, we had the history,

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we knew what was happening. We
got it exactly right. And you

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were going you were exactly wrong.
You were calling us freedom lovers who are

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nothing more than sociopaths. Yeah,
there's a bit, Yeah, there's a

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bit of a conceit for both of
those those men. And I've seen,

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you know, I've seen some things
that Scott Adams has done and some things

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that Chris Como has done. And
you say, okay, look, if

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I were in a room with these
with these guys, I'd try to say,

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hey, you know, I just
think that there's some arrogance there that

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I hope you can get off that
platform a little bit. And at the

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time it was happening, I was
very upset with Scott Adams for saying that

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sort of thing, and I think
rightly so. So many people were really

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taking risks in their lives and to
say, oh, well, yeah,

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you know you were right, you
got lucky. No, no, they

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were really taking risks with their churches, with their careers, and they were

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right. You know, this was
persecution. And you don't just blithely say

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well, okay, we'll let bygones
be got bygones. I was wrong.

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It's sort of like so like if
you're dating someone and they do something really,

409
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really terrible and they say, oh, well yeah, they don't apologize,

410
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and it's very hard to forgive a
person when they just say, oh

411
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yeah, let's just forget all about
that, Like, no, I'm citing

412
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.720
you for wrongdoing. Do you have
a response? You know? It's too

413
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.519
bad, you know, oh yeah, And I remember the time that he

414
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.680
did it. I responded to him
and I said, well, it was

415
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getting harder and hard to tell pragmatists
from totalitarians, because he was trying to

416
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.160
present himself as a pragmatist, but
he was actually supporting totlitarianism. You know,

417
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.519
we were not being sociopaths. We
were not putting anybody at any risk

418
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.359
to anything. There was no risk
and we knew that there was no risk.

419
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.599
But getting back to one more thing
I want to say about the geospacial

420
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:45.799
intelligence. One way that you can
think about it is surveillance and tracking,

421
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but of course not for a disease, but because of your political or religious

422
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:55.640
views. And they justified this kind
of stuff because hey, we have to

423
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look at religion and things like that, because we got all these Islamic terrorists

424
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:02.319
there. But then they change it
to people who are Christians for example,

425
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.440
right, just like they take the
Rico Statutes, which were an abomination.

426
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.279
They put that in there to come
after organized crime, and then what do

427
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.880
they wind up doing? Very quickly
they use it against pro life demonstrators.

428
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.400
So they will come up with this
type of thing saying, we've got to

429
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.920
have surveillance, we've got to have
tracking so we don't have another nine to

430
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:23.319
eleven, And then they use that
against their political enemies because as far as

431
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:29.319
they're concerned, anybody that is a
dissenter to them is a disease. We

432
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:30.880
are a pandemic, We are a
virus, just as the climate people is

433
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.559
say, human race is a virus. It's going to kill Mother Earth.

434
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.440
Gaya. So yeah, that's what
that is really about. It surveillance and

435
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:45.039
tracking to really attack those of us
that they like to label as extremists and

436
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.240
terrorists. If you speak up at
the school board about what they're doing.

437
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:49.920
And you know, David, if
I could one final thing to sort of

438
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.839
tie that back into the WHO treaty, you know, you were one of

439
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.039
the only people I know, and
I was on the air. I was

440
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:02.440
on the radio in New Hampshire trying
to fight this in New Hampshire against the

441
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:07.240
model State Health Emergency plans around two
thousand and five, two thousand and six

442
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.599
they push this in New Hampshire and
it ties into you know, the overconfidence

443
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.200
that one might have in possibly And
again, I don't know whether they're going

444
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.279
to put this forward as a treaty
or you know, it looks like they're

445
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.039
going to put it forward as a
treaty. But will it be treated as

446
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.079
a treaty, I don't know.
Will it be part of an existing treaty?

447
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.599
Will you know, will Nation states
have to sign on to this,

448
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.480
see the presidents sign on that will
have to be approved as a Treaty,

449
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:37.559
I don't know. Then you've got
the revisions, the International Health regulation revisions.

450
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.559
So that's the second prong of the
you know, their pitchfork there.

451
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.799
But if we look at the model
state Health emergency model state health emergency plans

452
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:52.640
that were promulgated from JOHNS Hopkins and
push forward in almost every state after around

453
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.279
two thousand and two, two thousand
and three to about two thousand and seven,

454
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.279
one of the things that I think
is really important is even as people

455
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:04.559
talk about out state sovereignty or you
know, locality sovereignty, that would that

456
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:10.240
could be depicted as well. Our
state has this, our governor has this,

457
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.519
this control to say literally they could
go into farm, go into pharmacy

458
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:21.720
shops and and seize all all those
shops, all the material in those shops.

459
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.240
They can stop gatherings of X number
of people. So then it takes

460
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.559
a second level, at least on
the constitutionalist side, to say, where

461
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:34.400
do these things either comport with or
destroy the concept of the Bill of Rights

462
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.519
and the numerrated powers in the Constitution
On the federal side with the enumerated powers

463
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:44.200
the Bill of rights, because very
clearly most of those aspects of the model

464
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.359
state health emergency health plans uh breach
so many aspects of just the Bill of

465
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.599
Rights themselves, you know, I
thought that's a very important thing. Jay

466
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.079
and Jessica contacted me and said,
you know, we need to start doing

467
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.079
something to roll back these model state
health emergence the power plans, and I

468
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.200
agree. I think that's really where
the rubber meets the road. That's what

469
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.039
they had to you know, that's
why Trump bribed the governors so that they

470
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.480
could do that and do this with
the public health things. And I think

471
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:15.480
if we went back and we showed
people what you're talking about, how these

472
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:21.200
rules and these laws were put in
at the state level, how they're anesthetical

473
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.319
to human rights, anathetical to our
liberties and to the rule of law and

474
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.839
the constitution. If we did that
and started repealing these things, that's really,

475
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.880
I think always has been the crux
of the matter. And that's why

476
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.559
they put them in twenty years ago
and let them kind of sit there so

477
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.880
people didn't really realize what was there. We need to shine the daylight on

478
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:45.519
these things and pressure legislators and get
the public aware of this so we can

479
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:52.279
build a grassroots movement to rip out
this Model State Health Emergency Powers Act,

480
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.559
because that is foundational to all this
stuff. And if we were able to

481
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.400
get the Model Health State Emergency Powers
Act removed, that would go a long

482
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.559
way to doing what we hope some
of these state officials of the state attorneys

483
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.599
general and things like that would do. But we can do that at the

484
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.400
local level because they've already, because
of the bribery and everything, they've already

485
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:14.960
shown you that they don't have the
power to do this from the federal government.

486
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:16.960
So we stop any powers that they
were able to stick in at the

487
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:20.759
federal level. That'd be I think, really the best thing that we could

488
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.400
do. And we could do this
as a grassroots movement, I think yeah,

489
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:29.640
And I wouldn't want to, you
know, sound like I'm posing a

490
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:35.200
great effort, you know, setting
up as being overwhelming for people or anything

491
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:39.000
like that, But you know,
it takes these multiple levels of effort.

492
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:43.240
I think, you know, I
don't want to be presumptive for other people,

493
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.240
but to say it's going to take
work, you know, it's going

494
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.079
to take work of making connections with
local friends, going to your churches,

495
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.759
and not backing off when you say
I need to educate people if I can

496
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.680
on what the Constitution stands for,
I need to get either myself involved in

497
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.960
the political sphere just to get the
expressions out there. And there's nobility in

498
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.960
this struggle. Even if you fail, you're getting the education out there because

499
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:15.079
it starts with locally educating people with
a constant, constant barrage of if you

500
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:20.799
believe that the Constitution is the set
of rules for this nation state and the

501
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.160
nations the states within it, then
we on a local level are going to

502
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.519
look at what does the Fourth Amendment
say? Does the model State Health Emergency

503
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.680
Plan comport with that? What does
the Fifth Amendment say? What does the

504
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.960
sixth Amendment say? Can you seize
this property without due process? Can you

505
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:43.519
block us from gathering at this church? No, you cannot do these things.

506
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.039
Can you even send inspectors into look
unless you think that there's a crime.

507
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.839
No, do you have a warrant? No? All of these things

508
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.960
they're extremely and in the end they
become satisfying. I think because you gather

509
00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.960
with people and you say, I'm
stepping in a tradition was handed to me

510
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.880
by people, and you know,
you know, as I say, I

511
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.679
would even prefer to go back to
the to the Articles of Confederation, because

512
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:13.239
I think the Articles of Confederation were
much looser than the United States Constitution.

513
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.639
But they did say, yeah,
they did say, anybody who's entering these

514
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:22.519
offices, you've got to swear by
this constitution. So that means that if

515
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.440
we want these politicians to abide by
these things, we've got to be really

516
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:30.239
up on what the constitution says and
express that and tell people about that,

517
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.159
because that gets it into the zeitgeist
and they can't you know, even if

518
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.119
they get around it. At least
we've spoken up. You know, I

519
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.960
agree with you. People need to
understand that it's unconstitutional. People also understood

520
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:46.719
instinctively that it was unethical, immoral, and illegal. You had people saying,

521
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.800
sorry, you got to do this
or that, or you can't do

522
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.719
this or that. It's like this
is the law. No, it's not

523
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.719
the law. You don't have all
You didn't pass a law telling me that

524
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.599
I got to put a mask on
my face. This is a rule that

525
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.719
somebody has come up with, typically
some public health official. So how do

526
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.400
we short circuit that? Do we
take it to court, and do we

527
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.239
make the arguments that this is unconstitutional? It needs to be overturned and make

528
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.480
that argument in court. The courts
are really kind of you know, I

529
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.280
always talk about the courts, especially
the Supreme Court, is like a box

530
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.679
of chocolates. You never know what
you're going to get, right. They

531
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.119
are very politicized of these courts,
these judges, and so to me,

532
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.760
that's kind of like a crapshoot.
You never know what you're going to get

533
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:28.360
when you take it to court.
I think we had to try a different

534
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.920
approach. I think what we ought
to do is go back. It shouldn't

535
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.280
be too hard to identify these things. I mean, it'd be a lot

536
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.400
of research that you know, honestly, I don't have the time to do

537
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.559
it. I'd have to change things
around significantly to do it. But if

538
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:44.599
we started something, if anybody started
this, they should be able to identify

539
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:49.840
some of this model legislation in your
state and then guess what other people are

540
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.400
going to see it in their state
as well, right, because we're all

541
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.440
following this model. If we can
start to identify these things and attack these

542
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.639
things individually, I think we get
the very found of it without going through

543
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:06.400
these corrupt courts, Because I think
the justice system is just garbage and even

544
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.360
if you've got a good court at
a local level, these people will appeal

545
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:14.000
it up to the corrupt Supreme Court
or a corrupt federal appellate court. And

546
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.239
so I think the way to do
it is to shine the light on these

547
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:23.400
rules. Talk about excuse me,
talk about the fact that it isn't a

548
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:28.280
We're not saying this is a slippery
slope. You know, something likely could

549
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.840
happen really bad. We can point
to how they used it in twenty twenty

550
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.000
and say it's all right, been
done to You want to stop that from

551
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.159
ever happening again. You take away
this power out of this model legislation.

552
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.079
This thing right here, this is
what they hung themselves, you know,

553
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.360
what they hung their authority on to
do this kind of stuff. And I

554
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:51.199
understand that it's non constitutional, but
let's remove their excuse. I think that

555
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.880
could be very productive. Yeah,
you know, David, you remind me

556
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:58.199
of a couple things. First of
all, that makes me think about free

557
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:02.599
speech and the debate over these college
campuses, and you know, the the

558
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:07.199
protests and so on going on there. I just saw recently Marsha Blackburn,

559
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.920
and she's good and bad. You
know, she's all over the map.

560
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:15.239
She's got a proposal now to put
college protesters on the no fly list.

561
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.519
And you just say to yourself,
look, first of all, there should

562
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:23.000
be no such thing as no no
fly list. You've got no due process.

563
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.039
You're punishing people that it runs contrary
to the Fifth Amendment, the sixth

564
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.679
Amendment, and the eighth Amendment.
Okay, So Marcia, you swore an

565
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.519
oath to that document. Okay,
Marsha and Marcia and Marshall, Marsha,

566
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.800
Marsha, Marsha, you're hitting us
with the football. Come on, this

567
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:44.280
is ridiculous, you know, it
is just amazing. And then we've got

568
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:49.719
other instances where if you look at
the way things break down when the state

569
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.400
takes more of this power, it
starts to create more instances of the tragedy

570
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.000
of the commons, which you know, when I'm teaching economics, I try

571
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.400
to tell people, if you don't
have private property control over something, you're

572
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.679
going to get everybody arguing over how
that thing is being used. So is

573
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.440
it going to be a baseball park
or is it going to be a nature

574
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.199
preserve? Well, the government runs
it, so now the people want the

575
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.840
baseball park and going to argue and
they're all paying taxes, so they all

576
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.800
have some valid claim. And then
are you going to have to parson and

577
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.960
break it down to say, well, this person paid ten times more in

578
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.480
taxes, so his voice should be
heard more. And then you get into

579
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.440
Marxist arguments about well the little guy's
voice is now being suppressed. It becomes

580
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:32.559
ridiculous. All government entities removed the
ability of individuals to be able to value

581
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:37.119
for themselves how they spend their lives, how they spend their money. And

582
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.599
so if we look at these college
campuses, we have people like Stepanek calling

583
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.840
in the heads of the universities.
She's got a major problem with the president

584
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.840
of u Penn, Harvard and so
on. And she's doing it again now

585
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:57.159
with the chancellor of the New York
City Schools in Brooklyn. I think it

586
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.679
is. She's calling him in and
saying, well, they were saying terrible

587
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.239
things about Jews in the hallways.
He says, well, actually, we

588
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.320
have no record of that. There's
no evidence of that in any way whatsoever.

589
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.760
There was an investigation in that.
But that's the superficial side of it.

590
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:15.039
Nobody questions the idea that a Washington
politician is calling in the head of

591
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:22.039
a local school in New York to
say, somebody in your hallways might have

592
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:28.000
said something bad about a Jewish person. How in the world did we get

593
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:35.639
to this position where that stuffy politician
can do that and not actually bring up

594
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.440
the question of, hey, here's
an idea. Maybe a person living in

595
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:45.760
New Hampshire or Alaska shouldn't have to
be bothered with that. Maybe there's a

596
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.760
bigger problem, and it's you imposing
your will to take my money and my

597
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.960
future progenies money to pay for a
school in New York, and now I

598
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.840
should have some say over it.
Maybe I should not. How about that?

599
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.119
That's exactly the problem. It goes
with the college campuses as well,

600
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.400
because even though these college campuses are
private, they become de facto public places

601
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.679
when they're taking this government money.
And you see Hillsdale College and Grove City

602
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:16.920
College they ran into that situation too
when they were they originally were taking federal

603
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.440
money. They would take federal grants
and things like that, and the Fed

604
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.480
said, you have to conform to
Title nine. You have to have equal

605
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.840
sports teams for women. Hillsdale said, my brother was going to Hillscale Hillsdale

606
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.239
a few years after the Supreme Court
case, they said, we can't do

607
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.360
that. We can't afford that nobody
goes to the women's things. We can't

608
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.360
afford all these equal sports for women. We love to do it, but

609
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.800
we can't. So then the FED
said, they said, okay, we're

610
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.159
going to stop taking federal grants.
Then the FED said, of course,

611
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.599
well, if you have any students
who are getting federal money, it is

612
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.519
a de facto subsidy from the federal
government because they're choosing to give you the

613
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money we gave them. So you
still have to conform to Title nine.

614
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So Grove City and Hillsdale said,
all right, we're not going to take

615
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any students that get government government loans. Nobody questions the underlying misassumption, which

616
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is that the government should be handing
laws out for universities and then you get

617
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the carrot and the stick in the
strings and it's all and so that gets

618
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into this this question. I mentioned
on the program a lot called unconstitutional conditions

619
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and unconstitutional conditions. One of the
best examples of this, generally speaking,

620
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if you look at like the Cornell
Law site or any of these law sites

621
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where they you know, have easy
reference to Supreme court dockets and things like

622
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:37.960
that. The concept of unconstitutional conditions. The majority of Supreme Court cases on

623
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:42.800
this have ruled that the state government, the federal government, providing you in

624
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:47.360
the state government providing you with some
benefit, does not allow them to say

625
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:52.039
in a in a in an ex
anti fashion, if you're going to take

626
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.320
this benefit, you must give up
a constitutionally protected right. So the greatest

627
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.199
example of this is the Cabrini Green
Housing case where and that housing building was

628
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.440
actually the tearing down of it occurred
a number of years ago, and it

629
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.639
was under Michelle Obama's she was attached
to some state thing when they were back

630
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:15.079
in Illinois years ago, and yeah, just a welfare project. Yeah,

631
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.519
yeah, yeah, exactly. And
so as you probably aware that a little

632
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.159
little child, a child was killed
in a drug thing out in the parking

633
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.159
lot. And so the it was
a section eight housing. And so they

634
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.239
said, okay, if you're if
you are as a poorer person, are

635
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.400
going to take this Section eight housing, You're going to have to be open

636
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:37.639
to no knock drug searches in your
apartment. This you know, a CLU

637
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.320
got involved in things like that,
and you know, as spotty as they

638
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.239
are, most of the time.
But in this case they said, no,

639
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.719
you know, you can't tell them
that they're going to have to give

640
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.320
up a supposedly constitutionally protected right in
order for them to get the housing and

641
00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:00.480
nconstitutional subsidies. I know exactly.
It's it's absolutely amazing, you know,

642
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.360
it's amazing, And it is a
real mix bag because I think ideologically or

643
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:09.760
intellectually the same way when we look
at corporations, you say, what exactly

644
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:16.320
are you you're asking for something from
the government. Can the government say you

645
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:21.679
must do X, y or z
in order to maintain this status. So

646
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:28.719
it's very tricky and a great example
this they found in favor of the plaintiffs.

647
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:30.199
They said, no, you can't
do this. But if you look

648
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:35.079
at Hillsdale and Grove City, they
said, these are in constitutional conditions.

649
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.039
They found any other way against Hillsdale
and Grove City. And I think if

650
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:43.679
they were to apply it to the
TSA at the airports, which by their

651
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.000
nature that you know, every second
of the day, they're breaching the Fourth

652
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:50.760
Amendment. Many times they're breaching the
sixth and the eighth Amendments because they're taking

653
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:54.039
things without due process, making you
put stuff in trash baskets and things like

654
00:43:54.079 --> 00:44:00.760
that. I don't think the Supreme
Court would find against the TSA and cite

655
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.639
on constitutional conditions there. I think
they would be very selective. And I

656
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.079
think also if you look at the
universities, that's a very tricky thing because

657
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:14.360
if you've got pro Zionist supporters at
Let's say I went to Boston University and

658
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.559
I often mentioned my last name's Goldsmith, but it's not Jewish, so a

659
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.880
lot of people thought I was Jewish. It be you because it's like eighty

660
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.880
five percent Jewish there. So you
know, if I were to be leading

661
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.159
a protest in favor of the Palestinians
and the occupied territory, I think by

662
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:34.519
definition occupied territory, how to tell
some people something? You know? Uh?

663
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.800
But if I were to be there
in protest, if I were on

664
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.800
the college campus and some prosigonists people
wanted to be on the same exact plot

665
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.440
of land, well they have just
as much right under the because BU takes

666
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.800
federal money. So how do we
work this? Say? And this is

667
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.480
one of the things where Robert Higgs
says the state is intolerable. As an

668
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.559
anarchist, I try to say,
when the state tries to manage things like,

669
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.840
let's say you have free speech rights. Okay, you got a right

670
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.639
to free speech, and this I
won't even go into how it's actually supposed

671
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.760
to be up to the states,
and it's only Congress shall make no law,

672
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:13.280
as you know, and they had
speech laws and religious schools for decades

673
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.840
after the Constitution. But let's say, you know, just on the theoretical

674
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.960
level, I've got a right to
free speech. Well, I can't go

675
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.119
and sing in a courtroom because the
person on trial has a right to do

676
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:29.480
process. So how do those two
comport. They don't. So the state

677
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:34.920
managing these things always makes it such
that if you actually dig down, this

678
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.000
is one of the reasons why you
know, I try to talk about voluntarism

679
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:42.440
and anarchists philosophy. If you really
look at the state, the state does

680
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.599
not work properly. So I would
be willing to at least go with the

681
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:52.400
decentralized federalist system that says, smaller
spheres of control where these problems arise,

682
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.400
at least you can work them out
better. If you're not satisfied, you

683
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.800
can get away. The larger the
area of control, the more often these

684
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:02.000
problems are going to occur. Seeing
it now, universities thousands of miles apart

685
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.360
from each other, are you know, hundreds of miles apart from each other

686
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.199
running into the same problems. You
should you should be able to have choice,

687
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:12.800
You should be able to go say
this is a private university. I

688
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.679
do like their policies here. I
don't like their policies here. I'm gonna

689
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.199
go or I'm not going to go, and that's it and other people shouldn't

690
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.000
have to worry about it. Well, again, it comes back to the

691
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.559
in fact they're going to have this
aty Semitism awareness monitor, they don't monitor

692
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:29.639
anything else. They continue to fund
it. And it always comes back to

693
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.079
the money. You don't do what
we like, we'll take the money away.

694
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.440
But when we look at what is
happening, you pointed out, you

695
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.320
know, Marsha Blackburn wants to you
know, put people on a no fly

696
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.440
list. And then you got also
here in Tennessee, Andy Ogles, who

697
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:46.360
wants to take the people who were
If you're convicted of some of these activities

698
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:52.239
that they're doing on campus now,
then they they transport you, like you're

699
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:57.440
in Australia, ship you to Gaza, make it is six months the community

700
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.760
service in Gaza. I think that
kind of qualifies unusual punishment. May not

701
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.519
be cruel, but it is unusual. But you know, it's not about

702
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.360
what it's about, is it.
You know, that's always the situation.

703
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.760
These are what is the real thing? The mcguffin that they're out here.

704
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.000
They got all these different mcguffins.
But it's not about free speech, right,

705
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.519
and it's not even about anti Semitism. What this is about is about

706
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.960
these politicians finding some way that they
can get in front of the group.

707
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:29.039
And it's like, I got a
way that I can please you. Okay,

708
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.360
this is a pak and this is
the Israeli lobby that's here in America.

709
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.519
Let me do this and then you
can. You know, if you

710
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.000
like me, they're gonna send me
lots of money because they do that,

711
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.960
right and right that. It's about
them drawing it, coming up with these

712
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.400
ridiculous things that are setting very dangerous
precedents that are against the law, against

713
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:51.320
the constitution, because they're trying to
curry favor with APAC and other big donors

714
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.320
that are out there. And that's
what this is really about. It's not

715
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.719
about free speech. It's not even
about the violence on campus. It's about

716
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:01.400
pleasing these people, because we've had
these protesters who have been violent, they've

717
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.559
been racist, they've been hateful to
other groups a lot of times. It's

718
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:12.280
just that we don't our group does
not have the kind of influence of Congress

719
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.400
that the other group does. And
so that's what it is. It's about

720
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.440
them, you know, virtue signaling
to a group that's going to give them

721
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.440
a lot of money, and they're
coming up a very dangerous precedents that are

722
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.719
going to be used against all of
us. And this stuff about putting people

723
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.199
on no fly list, that is
a star Chamber process. First report that

724
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.840
I did when I went in four
Wars is a guy who got stuck in

725
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.400
Hawaii and he was on a remember
that, Yeah, he was on a

726
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.639
He was going to visit his wife
who was in the military and she's in

727
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:46.920
stationed in Japan, and he's flying
on a military plane and he goes across

728
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:52.119
you know, he's fine, going
across America. Then he goes from California

729
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.559
to to uh Hawaii and then he's
making the last leg of the trip and

730
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.480
just he's already on the plane just
before the plane takes off. These marshalls

731
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.239
come on and say you come with
us, and they take him off the

732
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.880
plane. So what this is about
he doesn't know. He's never been presented

733
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:09.800
with any charges. This is a
star chamber process to put somebody on a

734
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:15.480
no fly list, and he never
could find out either what he was charged

735
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.960
with. And now he's in a
situation where how does he get out of

736
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.760
here? How did he get away
from Hawaii? If you can't fly right,

737
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.000
how do I even get back to
the continental of the United States.

738
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:27.079
He was in a big, big
problem. We got him a lot of

739
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.079
publicity and he was able to find
some allies in the military to shut this

740
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:35.800
thing down. But last I talked
to him, he never knew why he

741
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.119
was on a no fly list.
He never had any charges presented with him.

742
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:45.760
That's an abomination. Anybody who supports
a no fly list for any reason

743
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:50.360
is somebody who doesn't support the Constitution. It's just that simple. And yet

744
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:54.280
we see these knee jerk authoritarian reactions
to so many things Trump wanting to say.

745
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.760
Now he's saying, elect me,
and I'm going to send special forces

746
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:04.960
in into Mexico to fight the drug
wars, Like seriously, just acting more

747
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:09.119
crazy stuff on top of bad rules
and bad regulations and bad prohibitions. You

748
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:15.559
know, David, it's it's it's
so interesting because it's so energizing seeing you

749
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:20.199
talk about these things. It is
just the it's the best source of energy.

750
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.679
And you know, like we're talking
about, you know, people taking

751
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.159
some time to do their things and
so on. I know how much time

752
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.719
you devote to this, and I
know how much time I devote to this,

753
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:30.519
and I know how much time so
many other people devote to this,

754
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:35.360
and they're in their various ways,
and it's just such a refreshing thing to

755
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.000
know. I mean, you're such
a and you know this isn't a like

756
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.880
blow smoke or anything. It really
is. And I'm looking at you on

757
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.880
the screen and I'm like, man, this guy is just so full of

758
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:45.960
power and thought. And I just
want to mention. You know, we

759
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:52.840
talked about before before it came on, We talked about just the amazing two

760
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.079
facedness of these people that just about
four or five days ago, almost a

761
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:02.320
week ago, we had Anthony Blinken
and Joe Biden both announcing how much they

762
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:08.760
were in favor of press freedom.
Will Juliassan sits in Belmarsh Prison. While

763
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:16.519
literally last November, Biden, sorry
Biden put forward President Biden and Blincoln both

764
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:21.519
speaking about the press freedom. Biden
put out his AI Executive Order, which

765
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.280
would mean that any software maker would
have to open up and show his security

766
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.320
protocols and software under the executive order. When we've got them fighting in court

767
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:37.239
in the Supreme Court in the Murphy
versus Missouri case Jabotikaria, and they have

768
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.800
the gall to talk about free speech. So if we can turn that into

769
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:44.840
energy and think about you know,
like people like you and other folks.

770
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.599
You look at Gerald, Gerald,
Sealente and other good people out there,

771
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:51.639
and the people who come into the
chat and so on and their local areas.

772
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.000
I just love it. And we
know the bad guys are out there

773
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:59.679
and it's upsetting, and yet I
can't help but smile. It's just great

774
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:04.679
to know that we can fight these
guys and call them out for how ridiculous

775
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:06.760
they are. Well, I'm glad
that you do it as well, and

776
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:12.400
a great contribution. You've got a
weekly program that people can catch live again,

777
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.440
Liberty Conspiracy. You can find it
on Twitter at guard Goldsmith, as

778
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:20.960
well as on Rumble and rock Fan
and YouTube right now, and people can

779
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.199
go to your Liberty Conspiracy website as
well. Thank you Guard for what you

780
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.280
do. I know you put a
lot of time into it as well.

781
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.079
You've got a very long live program
that you're on a daily basis. Is

782
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:36.360
why we don't have any sympathy for
somebody like Chris Cuomo who doesn't do his

783
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:37.880
homework. It's like, are you
seriously? I mean, this is the

784
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:42.320
guy sitting in the back of the
room, the most popular guy in school,

785
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.880
who doesn't do a single thing,
but he's the star of the team

786
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:50.880
for some reason. I don't know, but anyway, it's no seriously.

787
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:54.039
I hate to see people misled and
that's really what is happening with these people

788
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:58.280
who are influencers like that. But
again, thank you so much for what

789
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.159
you do and great contribution. Always
a pleasure to talk to you. I

790
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.199
love my David Night. Pen is
getting a lot of work. That's what

791
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.239
I'll say. That's good. Go
to the store, Go to the store.

792
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:12.239
Thank you, Guard. Have a
good day and everybody have a good

793
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:17.760
weekend, and hopefully we'll see you
on Monday. Let me tell you the

794
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:25.360
David Night Show you can listen to
with your ears. You can even watch

795
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:31.199
it by using your eyes. In
fact, if you can hear me,

796
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:39.840
that means you're listening to the David
Night Show right now. Yeah, good

797
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:50.320
job, and you want to know
something else. You can find all the

798
00:53:50.360 --> 00:54:00.840
links to everywhere to watch or listen
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