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Tony. Thank you for joining us
today. Thank you for supporting this

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program. Well, it's an absolute
honor, sir. Thank you for having

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me back. I always enjoy our
Thursday chats. Well, thank you.

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Yeah, it's great to have you
on. And in the brief time that

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we were talking during that break,
you said you heard the question from somebody

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about Saudi Arabia in three days.
Is there some kind of magic agreement?

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Were you able to find anything about
that about the Well, yes, I'm

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going to be very careful not to
break anything here that is unsubstantiated, because

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there's a whole host of blogs out
there and speculation on what's going to happen

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on the ninth. We do know
this that in June sixth, nineteen seventy

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four, the House of sod and
the United States formed a petro dollar agreement

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in exchange for military protection, that
the brokering and all sales of the crude

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oil in Saudi Arabia would flow through
dollars. And that's where you get to

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term petro dollar. And so that
was fifty years ago today. That's interesting,

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Yes, in D day too,
Junie shakes. Yeah, also anniversary

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of Operation over Lord nineteen forty four, and so yeah, you're expiring on

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the ninth. And so again there's
some disinformation. I don't want to lean

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too heavily. And there's there's some
blogs out there, some some substacks saying

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that the Crown Prince in Saudi Arabia
has said that they were no longer accept

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dollars. That's not something I can
confirm. What I think it's going to

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happen is if you look at the
I think the digital currency headlines out there,

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Saudi Arabia and China are creating a
cross border digitized payment system. I

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think that that will kind of start
off what's going to happen to the future

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is going to be a host of
currencies. I don't see any evidence that

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Saudi Arabia is going to stop all
transactions and dollars. I think we would

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know that. I think that would
be even though it's on a couple of

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blogs out there, I don't think
that that is the true crux of the

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matter. I think what we're looking
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not renew that agreement the petro dollars, so officially, really the petro dollar

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is not necessarily dead, but it's
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because these other currencies, and I
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you want. And then the BRICKS
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Arabia had recently joined bricks and I
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really that really is going to accelerate
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it's not that it's going to go
to zero, that Saudi Arabia is not

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going to accept it, but they're
going to have a completely new payment system

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set up. So what we've known
and what we talked about as the petro

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dollar I think is officially coming to
end here on the ninth. Well,

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now, am I mistaken because I
thought that Saudi Arabia had said they're going

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to start settling contracts with China,
for example, in the Chinese You want

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was I imagining that or did that
really happen or do you know? Do

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you remember I thought they had started
doing that, but maybe they didn't.

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What do you think? I believe
that they have started doing that, and

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I don't. I think even during
this agreement, I think they've been setting

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that system up. I think that
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it's not that they won't use dollars
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And we've been talking about this for
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the overall d dollarization globally that we're
seeing and really just I mean, it

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accelerating faster then I think as you
look at the financial the mainline financial networks

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aren't even talking about this. This
is huge, you know, this this

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departure away from the petro dollar system. So now again I don't it's not

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going to go to zero, like
they're not going to use dollars or Iraq

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has done that, by the way, the ki the Iraqi parliament has made

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it illegal to trade in dollars,
so that you know that in that part

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of the world that is happening.
But it looks like this is limping along.

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I mean, there's going to be
trade in dollars, but no,

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it's there's cross border payments set up
electronic. The electronic systems, electronic currencies

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and digitized currencies between Saudi Arabia and
uh and China are going on, and

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I think this is going to be
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the new payment systems through bricks.
Another stellar victory for the American Empire are

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former the people we rescue don't want
have made it illegal to even take our

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money anymore. Maybe we should offer
a bill like that in Tennessee, maybe

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illegal to accept an any federal bribery
out of Washington, DC. That would

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start things going in the right direction
immediately, wouldn't it. They don't even

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want our money. And of course
Turkey, which is a NATO ally,

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they have declared that they're going to
join bricks as well. So was there

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a you mentioned, you know,
fifty years ago. Today there's some kind

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of an agreement. Now, what
kind of you know, is this kind

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of a handshake between I guess we
could call it a hand chic between a

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clown prince and kissinger. Or was
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they spelled out there that they can
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some wiggle room or just ignore it. I guess maybe, I don't know.

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Was it some kind of a formal
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you said, just was it okay? I just thought, you know,

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if you look it up, it's
the Petro doll Agreement of nineteen seventy three

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was a deal. But when the
United States and Saudi Arabia and exchange for

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military protection and advanced equipment, Saudi
Arabia agreed to sell oil exclusively in US

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dollars, and they call it an
arrangement established had a rangeow dollar. We're

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doing a couple of mafia families there. You know, it's like the Taglias

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and the Corleons made an arrangement there. And of course the reason that we

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talked about this many times, the
reason they had to do that was because

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everybody saw the fraud that the dollar
was not backing up not being backed up

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by gold as they had promised,
and so they had to back it up

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essentially, you know, with guns, with the military equipment for the Saudiast

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and keep them in power because you
know it's it's organized crime cartel, but

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that's run in that country, absolutely
right. It was a bit of a

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delayed reaction, you know, August
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takes us off the gold standard,
closes the gold window, and it doesn't

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again, not till June sixth,
nineteen seventy four, we have this official

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agreement. I think that was probably
the plan all along, because it'd be

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more of a floating currency based off
of real time commodity in some ways at

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least. So it's not just because
that was a huge departure from the Breton

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Woods Agreement of nineteen forty four and
again in the nineteen seventies. That's where

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you get stagflation. You get high
unemployment, inflation and low economic output,

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and so that's what you get also
to get the goal going up two thousand

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percent during the nineteen seventies. Of
course, gold didn't really go up.

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It's the dollar loss purchasing power.
But all through that. That's the military

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backed US currency argument. And I've
heard that before, like what backs us

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now, It's been a host of
things. It's really about money velocity.

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This is my opinion. You go
and you look at places like a Rack

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that we invaded, and I tell
this story often, like one of the

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first places I was called to at
the tail end of the invasion, going

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into Mosul, they sent me to
the bank. They said, put my

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team to the bank and said,
figure out what's going on because people were

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just taking boxes of the Iraqi dinar
out of bank, and that people were

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staying there and there's just bailey looting, but they would go out in the

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street. The nobody wanted any of
the currency. I literally got to see

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a currency die in real time in
a paper currency. And you think about

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the depart that was twenty years ago, David. So if you think of

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the departure twenty one years ago,
and I look at that and how far

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we are away from that, the
apex of American power and hegemony post nine

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to eleven, going into I Rack, doing that, setting up that in

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turn government, all that, all
that would pull with Paul Brimmer and all

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this. You look back now and
they don't even accept dollars. Yeah,

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yeah, that's right. And this
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swift fall. And you know,
we talked about this last week. You

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have to be this is on purpose
that we lose these deals. This was

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one of the reasons that if you
look at the history of the Cold War

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in the nineteen eighties, Ronald Reagan
was able to bankrupt the Soviet Union and

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this is There's a lot of moving
parts that go into that, but that

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was one of the things. He
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of Sad. They were able to, you know, have a massive amount

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of output of crude oil under the
market. The main export of the Soviet

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Union was energy Russia and their natural
resources, so a couple with some other

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things that was that was deal making, That was a strategy. What is

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happening now, I know it's an
inside job, but it's pretty incredible.

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I mean, they're not even trying
anymore. That you have Biden's economic advisor,

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Bernstein. He can't explain what currency
is, like he was on sixty

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minutes. He can't explain, you
know, how dead is denominated. All

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this stuff. And he's also arguing
he wants to lose this that these these

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are the read economic advisor for Biden
wants to lose the world's reserve currency status

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of the US dollar was I don't
know how the how does the dollar survive,

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David, if it's not being used
globally. And again we've I don't

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think that these elites understand, or
maybe they do, the consequences. I

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think the people running the government understand. I think they put in these idiot

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subordinates who don't, and those are
the ones that we that we look at

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it when they go our leaders.
They don't understand what's going on. Maybe

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I don't know, maybe there's such
traders that they would do it anyway,

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Maybe they're so stupid they don't understand
what's going on. But the people who

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are setting this whole thing up do
understand, and you know they are deliberately

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It's kind of like the failing schools. Right for the longest time, people

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say, what is the matter with
the schools? And I'd say, I

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think they're doing exactly what they intended
to do. I think they're deliberately dumbing

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down the kids, and they our
government, we look at it and it's

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like, what's the matter with it. Can they see that this doesn't make

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any sense? And I think no. I think they're deliberately pulling the economies

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apart in America and in Europe and
other places in the West. I think

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it's a deliberate focus on us UH
to rip everything apart. I agree this

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is I think it's a plan.
America will be the first nation I think

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ever that will be brought down artificially. It will have this again. Every

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nation, every great empire, has
a rise and fall, has an apex

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and a collapse eventually. But this
has been accelerated. You go back and

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just look at the timeline. I
get stuck on this, but if you

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watch the departure of American greatness and
American power and accountability, it really just

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starts again. The acceleration point,
at least is nineteen seventy one, and

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then that's when we go off the
gold standard at least. And I'm thankful

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for a lot of things that happened
post Nixon taking us off the gold standard.

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For one thing, it's legal for
you to own gold now. You

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couldn't know it from nineteen thirty three
to nineteen seventy four, which is interesting.

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This is seventy fours, the year
we signed the agreement for the petro

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dollars. Also the year Gerald Ford
made it legal for you to own gold.

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So again it was you couldn't physic
you go to prison, you couldn't

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physically hold it. So now you
can, so you can be your own.

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But you got to understand, like
everything that's happening with the government and

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the idea of sound money and liberty
and accountability with with in regards to the

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monetary system, that's what props up
the deep state. That's what we have

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the problems that we have. There's
no there's absolutely no accountability. And now

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that they're they're doing this controlled demolition, this is this is the time when

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you really, folks, you got
to pay attention to what this is going

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to happen. Like David says it, it's gradually then suddenly, right with

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the Hemmingways quote about the rich going
broke, I mean it's gradually and suddenly.

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I think we're going to see the
suddenly part. And I try not

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to be an alarmist and say,
well, tomorrow are gonna wake up in

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the dollar is not going to zero, but it is going to digital.

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That's something that we need to really
focus on. It's this is all these

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things that are happening. I think
you know, David and I talk about

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it's like, how could you even
how dold you let this agreement lapse?

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And when we need it so badly
to strengthen the dollar as well, it's

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because they're going to cause put in
the environment for you to need or ask

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for a central bank digital currency.
There'll be there'll be a run on the

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dollar, there will be loss of
purchasing power, foreign adversaries dumping it,

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and so they're going to say,
well, this is what you need,

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just you know, sign up,
we here's your biometrics and all the rest

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of that stuff. So that that's
the at least that's the the signposts that

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I'm reading from all this, because
you can't they have to know that they're

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going to lose this status, so
there might be and again this drome pal

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has been raising rates faster than any
Fed chair in history, and we've noticed

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that. And they're also very much
on the fence about lowering rates now because

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they have tag flaks and they have
they have inflation now, but they also

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have an economy that's failing. But
I think you and I have also talked

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about the FED. The FED will
choose the strong dollars. So there's a

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there's a mixed bag, and it's
probably a lot of civil war going on

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and realm of finance which work its
way out of the general society eventually the

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civil wars stuff. I agree,
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kind of interesting when they put in
commodities of oil, but also the other

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commodity that was implicit in the petro
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the two commodities that we control,
right and so we control the all we

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control the military power. Once they
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on that, then they could let
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then to kind of you know,
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very least. And so they move
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they're going to they're gradually taking everything
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you know, how do we how
do we accomplish radical change? Is

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basically what that guy was asking him
at Milkin. And whether you're talking about

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getting people to take an untested vaccine
or they're talking about radical change in terms

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of our infrastructure, and our economic
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Western governments to a handful of oligarchs. When you talk about radical change,

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you do it from the inside.
You do it with disruption, and you

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do it iteratively. And that's what
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And then the question is Kubona who
benefits? Yeah, and certainly not the

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American people, right And because this
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you're going to develop normalcy bias.
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because the elites are planning, they've
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have a term for it's called the
Great Reset. They throw it in your

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face. I started, I was
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were too, in you know,
twenty nineteen. I mean was talking about

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talking about the language of the Great
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the way, the World Economic Forum
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we went off the gold standard.
Who knew, you know? So you

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know, you see a lot of
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time. In nineteen seventy two,
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if you read Pat Buchanan's work on
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it was like this backwater almost like
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a moonscape. It was just it
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had they had nuclear weapons in nineteen
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you know, the the MAOIs regime, even though they were set up

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by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds in nineteen
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very insulated and they had you know, cross cross border fights with skirmishes with

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the Soviet Union. A lot of
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had, you know, border disputes
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Russian Czars had conquered and you know, two hundred years prior, but there

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was a lot of tension. So
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we are now. China. You
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status given to it by George W. Bush on December eleventh, two thousand

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and one. And after that we
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factories here in the United States,
all this wealth transferring to China. But

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I read a report this morning,
Dave, was really interesting. The amount

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of dollars that China now holds is
a mystery. There was a going up.

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The peak was twenty fourteen, and
then there was this decline since that

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time, and now they just basically
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You really don't know how much how
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So this is coupled with the fact
that China has been stealthily under radar,

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which is very bizarre, buying gold
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think that's also a tell they're setting
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manufacturing, which production. If you
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when he talked to Congress back in
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well, what's what's wrong with the
economy? You know, why is

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the economy? I am? That's
a gest thing on it, right,

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you know, what's what's wrong with
the world? I am? But he

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definitely was what was wrong with the
economy? These these FED chairmen, Well,

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it's exactly right. Well, he
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States had had departed from a production
nation to a consumption nation. You know,

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that's a consumption economy is not going
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with overall wealth as a production economy, so we went away from manufacturing.

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So there's something happening here. The
history here is really breathtaking. If you

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follow finance and you're a gold bug
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metals, and it's all happening now. I mean, just even the news

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feeds. It's even it's hard for
me to catch up because so much happening

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in the realm of digital currency.
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we're on the cusp of losing the
petro dollar. It's you know, I

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didn't think it would be this fast, but there's really no resistance. Even

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the archive stories, David. If
you go back to the United States,

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government isn't putting much pressure on Saudi
Arabia to renew it or to create it

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some sort of deal. And it's
truly I mean, you would think that

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Biden would go over and at least
do a sword dance with them or something

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like Trump did. They could pull
out they bought the glowing orb and he

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could put his hands on it.
It's like, yeah, all right,

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we're all together in on those but
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Well, and it's have you heard
anything I haven't heard anything on the

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campaign trail from any of these candidates. No, no, no, all

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the truly foundational existential issues, they
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a matter of fact, you know, when you look at this, right,

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it was energy, oil, it's
military power, things like that that

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they were focusing this thing on,
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is to make the transition from manufacturing
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path to poverty into slavery. And
yet when you look at the Green Agenda

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and you look at the Paris climate
a quarter of twenty fifteen, what is

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that about. That's about making sure
that China and India have an insurmountable advantage

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in terms of manufacturing because if they
we've got cheap available energy, nobody can

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compete with them. And that's why
we're seeing a lot of these We're seeing

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factory after factory close. They are
the last seal planned in the UK closing,

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and on and on. You see
all this stuff. Why because manufacturing

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is energy intensive, and if it's
energy intensive, it's going to be done

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in the places where energy is cheap. And so this whole Green Agenda has

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been about making China the manufacturing king
and making it so that we can't manufacture

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anything not competitively. At least let's
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you called it a watermelon that's green
on the outside and red communism on the

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inside. That's exactly right. I
mean, this is what the plan of

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the elites in the world economic form, whatever you want to call it.

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There's probably a massive amount of influence
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a whole show on this where the
Trilateral Commission, the Council on Formulations,

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how much of their hand is in
something like bricks and the foundation of bricks.

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We know that they founded the Trilateral
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least these years a very pivotal beginning
of the nineteen seventies, going off the

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gold standard, opening China. Trilateral
Commission seventy four is also a very important

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year, not only for this agreement, but it's the last year that the

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United States ever ran a trade surplus. And you got to remember, folks,

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a trade surplus. Again, this
is what we had for most of

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our history. There was the reason
we were called the arsenal democracy and the

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manufacturing marvel of mankind, I mean, is what we the founding father,

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especially Alexander Hamilton, set up a
tariff system so we would protect our markets

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and we built things, and so
there was always a trades That's how we

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even paid. You know, David's
mentioned this many times. That was our

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taxing system. About seventy percent of
the government, the federal government, was

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funded through tariffs. So foreign imports
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our home markets. And now you
look at that timeline, David going off,

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going on the Petro dollar, but
it was the last year we ever

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ran a trade plus. Now where
does that money go? So if you're

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running trade deficits, that's that's funds
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remember running for when I was running
for Congress, I said, well,

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we're going to reach a trillion dollar
trade deficit. And I was laughed at,

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but I think it was the Dallas
Morning News and I thought, that's

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just crazy. Well, we hit
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wasn't some it wasn't that much longer
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consume and consume and we're based off
of debt, and the elites pushed that.

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That's a you know, we went
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economy, and so that's where we
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as I've mentioned, have to go
somewhere. They do. They don't just

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float off in the ether. They
wealth transfer. So this large transfer of

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wealth has been happening under your feet
for the past fifty years, and now

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we're just I think they're consolidating,
that's rearranging the grand chess board, all

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of that. And the danger here
is all of us just thinking, well,

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you know, tomorrow will be a
lot like today's. It's it's not

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it's not going to be And you
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and I remember you had a lot
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you know, carrying the water for
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oh, this is going to be
great. You're going to be able

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to like, you'll get everything so
much cheaper. You know, these these

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people in China they've got nothing,
they'll work for nothing, and so you're

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going to get really cheap goods from
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thing that we're going to use these
people as slaves to make cheap stuff for

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us? And then where what is
the long term picture of this. You

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know, we're gonna get wealthier as
a community. Think about that as a

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community if we are just doing each
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restaurants, and that's really all that's
left to us. Now are these service

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businesses as individuals? You know,
if you're not on not a big multinational

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corporation on the New York Stock Exchange, what have you got left? Basically

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service businesses. Now, if you
do a good service business, you can

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still get rich. But at the
same time, your community or the country

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is getting poorer and poorer, you
know, so you're going to be a

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big fish and a shrinking pond that's
there, and eventually you're going to run

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out of water in that pond.
And so that's where we've the direction that

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we've been taking as a community.
And you know, a lot of these

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people who sold us this this open
trade stuff. Again, when you go

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back and you look at how these
things got put in. At the same

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time, we went from having taxes
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and all the rest of that stuff. That's when we made you know,

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essentially the you know, the guns
turned in on us in the same way

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that the guns are turning in on
us now with a surveillance state and the

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police state and the rest of this. They turned that gun on us economically

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a long time ago. And you're
you're right talking about the seventies when you

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had a big new Berzinski when he's
starting a Trilateral thing, and you know,

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and they loved him, they loved
his thesis that he wrote a little

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bit before that and sets up the
Trilateral Commission. And when they switch out

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Nixon with Jimmy Carter, they put
him in charge to take over from Henry

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Kissinger, who's running the show.
Then you get a big new Virginski run

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the show for the Trilateral Commission.
It truly is amazing to watch this thing

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unfold over all these different years and
and how these people are are painting us

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into a corner. Boy, we're
in one now and it's we'ren't a tight

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spot now. As they said in
that Brother warreth Aal, the Marn's on

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fire and they're shooting inside. Truly
is an endgame. Yeah, And you

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know, as much as I don't
like that the fact that this this plan,

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that it's been a long term plan
to transfer the wealth and power and

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the ability to project power away from
the United States of America. And it's

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good to wake up. You know
that that quote that's often attributed to Thomas

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Jefferson, You wake up homeless on
the continent your forefathers conquered because this was

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a plan that was implemented. You
mentioned, you know, the income tax

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and the Federal Reserve. I mean, nineteen thirteen is the four horsemen of

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the political apocalypse. You know,
you have the seventeenth Amendment, the direct

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election of senators by bankers instead of
your state legislator. You get the sixteenth

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Amendment, which was which was the
income tax. You get the Federal Reserve.

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But you also get in there there's
the in the incubation stage where we

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start moving away from being economic nationalists
to a free trade system. In nineteen

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thirteen with Woodrow Wilson folks. All
that was set up by the elites.

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This was this was their plan is
you know the Cecil Roads, round Table

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internationalists, merging of the British Empire, the City of London and the United

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States, and its power to to
you know, form a one world government.

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And that's where you know, you
know, years later, you get

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you know, after the end of
World War One, the League of Nations

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was rejected because we still had somewhat
of you know, we still had some

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people that loved this country that were
in the United States Senate, and it

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was rejected. But that's where you
get the Council on Foreign Relations. They've

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been working it's an inside job.
They've been working on this, and it's

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beyond just human intervention. This is
a spiritual thing. But they've been working

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on this since well for since the
beginning of the country, but especially accelerated

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after World War One. I mean, and I'll end with this, David.

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You know, the debt of the
US going into World War One,

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the war to end all wars was
was a billion dollars, and when we

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were done with the war, it
was five you know, because now we

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had the federal reserve too, and
they had hijacked the money supplied and they've

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expanded. You know, it was
five billion. That's pretty quaint compared to

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where we are now with a trillion
dollars every ninety days. You know,

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it's so totally unsustainable. But you
know, watch watching this is monumental day.

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We're watching these agreements expire, and
this is a this is the passing

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of an age of the American empires, and it's swiftly eroding. Right.

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look at China, they loved China because

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00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.759
the Communist leaders were nothing but thieves. You know, Marxism is essentially a

408
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:11.440
kleptocracy from one regard, you know, kleptocracy combined with detalitarianism. So they

409
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:17.000
knew these people were bribable. What
they did was they set up a kind

410
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:22.240
of fascist system where you had public
private partnerships. You didn't have a business

411
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:29.200
there unless you had a Communist party
partner there. And so that kind of

412
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:33.160
model that they used. They liked
China because they could have their way with

413
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:34.960
it. And you hear the politicians
and everybody else saying that all the time.

414
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:37.960
Well, I love China, do
whatever I want to there, because

415
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.039
it's a dictatorship and they want a
fascist dictatorship here. That's what the public

416
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.799
private partnerships are all about. And
they're the ones who are going to you

417
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:47.920
know, you asked before, where
does the money go, Well, we

418
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.119
know it goes to these guys.
They're the ones who get it. I've

419
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.920
got a question for you, Tony. This is from Michelle Obama. Thank

420
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.440
you for the tip on Ronfan said, Tony, does the gold you send

421
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:03.279
me that is larger in size have
less value because it's not as easy to

422
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:08.400
break down and trade for day to
day items? No, Well, I

423
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:14.200
think what you're referring to is there's
when you get gold that is broken into

424
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.599
things like half ounce, quarter ounts, tenth of an ounce, or even

425
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.519
gram bars. I got to put
a lot of the gram bars in the

426
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:26.759
wolf Pack packages. There is a
premium placed on those just getting that,

427
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.160
like, my cost is going to
be higher, doesn't It's like it's not

428
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.000
a cost I'm passing necessarily onto you
from the mint that's Mike. I have

429
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.039
to absorb the cost first and then
you know, sell it. So there's

430
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:42.759
always a higher premium on fractionalized gold
as there is unfractionalized silver. It's just

431
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:48.720
the way that metals work, the
minting process and all of that. There

432
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.160
is always going to be a little
bit more and sometimes a lot more premium.

433
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.279
It's one of the things that's great
about wolf Pack. We buy the

434
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.960
gram bar sheets and sheets of one
hundred, so one hundred grams of gold

435
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.599
per sheet. And what I do
is we put take those little white gloves

436
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.720
and we break off the grams and
then repackage them into a coin flip.

437
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.039
So instead of you paying going online
and finding one and that's an assay that's

438
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.240
through like you know, one of
the major retailers, we'll save you,

439
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:19.440
you know, ten fifteen dollars a
piece on those. So it's not that

440
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:23.359
it's your goals. Your goal's worth
less if it's in an ounce form,

441
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:30.880
and it's not necessarily that your goal
was worth more when it's in a fractionalized

442
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.599
form, But you end up paying
a little bit more, and I think

443
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.359
there's probably a psychological value placed on
that. It's like if you can just

444
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.440
trade grams at a time, I
think people would like that, by the

445
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.279
way. I mean, I think
that's a way that you could handle business.

446
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.880
And it gives you the ability to
you've made that coin divisible, So

447
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:52.240
that's the whole point of why you're
paying a little bit of it. I

448
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.680
agree. Yeah, yeah, when
you get something that's bigger, it is

449
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.279
that you're going to get a bulk
discount type of thing on it, right,

450
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:03.400
And then if it's smaller, you've
got some more utility for it in

451
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:04.839
terms of maybe you know in the
future if you're trying to it. So

452
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.200
those those two things that just kind
of there's there are you know, different

453
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.920
types of things that you might accumulate. You know, you're looking to get

454
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:18.799
a massive amount that you then can't
break down, uh and but you can

455
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.319
get a quanity discount on it,
or you're going to get something that you

456
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:26.799
know, there's more uh more involved
in manufacturing it and more stuff that has

457
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.839
to go into it, more processing, but it might have a little bit

458
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.799
more utility for you in the future. I guess it's just that maybe it's

459
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.599
that kind of trade off. Well
else that's by the way, that's the

460
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.119
way I buy a lot of my
goal for myself personally, even though I

461
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.680
mean I buy it from people that
come here to my shop or in my

462
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.000
place in Dennis and Texas. But
you know, I try to buy the

463
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.279
ten thounds pieces so that you know
the same things. If you call me

464
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.119
and you want to buy something,
just know that I'm it's like I'm buying

465
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:55.079
from myself. I think what would
I do with this particular situation. So

466
00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.200
it's you know that's just me projecting
my own strategy with my custom and uh

467
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:05.720
so, I told that's a great
question because I have the same I have

468
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.079
the same thoughts, like a tenth
thounced goal krugerrant. I love krugerrands,

469
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.720
you know, South African. It's
part of the bricks nations. It's probably

470
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.519
a good hedge there. You can
usually get a good deal on them.

471
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.000
They're not there's the premiums on there
aren't like American eagles. So I like

472
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.000
to I like to save those those
krugerrands. I like the ten thound pieces.

473
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:23.319
As a matter of fact, I
got one on my you know,

474
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.799
I carried one on my neck.
That's my necklace. It's a good way

475
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.279
to travel too. Like if you
want to take a little gold with you

476
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.279
just in case, like of a
backup, you can always do that with

477
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.720
jewelry. I go on a plane, the tsaal it from me. Wait

478
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.079
a minute, I had to this
basket. Where'd that go? Uh?

479
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.920
Yeah, that's you wear it.
Don't don't put in your bag to touch

480
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.880
it and steal it. Authority that's
what the TSA stands for. I guess.

481
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.480
But so, uh, what's going
on? Other things? That are

482
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.880
happening, any specials or anything like
that that's going on at Why's wolf you

483
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.480
want to let us know about,
well, I would. So we're working

484
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.880
on payment systems. I've had a
lot of people reach out and said I

485
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.559
heard you on David Night talking about
the new payment systems. Working on that

486
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:12.839
where you can do ah, it's
for some of the larger tiers or one

487
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:17.359
time purchases. And I'm working on
being able to accept major crypto on wolf

488
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.440
Packs. You can go on and
get in the shopping cart use bitcoin or

489
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.240
ethereum. We should be announcing probably
this time next week when I'm on with

490
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.480
you again, hopefully we'll be announcing
that. So that'll be really exciting.

491
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:32.880
Oh yeah, and we've got a
lot of great, great products going out

492
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.200
on Wolfpack. If you haven't checked
out Wolfpack, go to Davidnight dot gold

493
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.599
and look at all the things that
you can set up and automatic. You

494
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:45.359
can do one time purchases and we
buy your metals for you. So the

495
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.759
more we've got close to we're getting
close to like twelve hundred people, so

496
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.119
we've expanded our reach there a bit. I got like seven hundred five star

497
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.720
reviews. So if you haven't grown
wolf pack or you've been on the fence

498
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.640
about it, especially with this going
off the Petro dollar. Save some silver,

499
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.880
get some gold, you know,
and with us, you're going to

500
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.199
get quality products delivered directly to your
door and all that certified. And I

501
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.519
buy for you, I buy for
you like I buy for me. Just

502
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.719
so yeah, yeah, what would
Tony do? That's that's what you're thinking

503
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:17.920
when you're making the purchases. Well, you know, as Gerald Cilenti will

504
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.760
always say, he says, I
don't predict the future. I predict trends.

505
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.320
And we know what the trend is
for gold. We don't know when

506
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.760
it's going to happen, when the
price is going to go up exactly or

507
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.639
go down, but we know what
the trend is for the dollar, and

508
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.960
we know what the trend is for
gold. And so that's that's all you

509
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.039
need to know to know that you
need to start accumulating gold and silver.

510
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.400
Thank you so much, Tony,
it's always great talking to you, and

511
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.639
you got your show is going to
be following to the expliment. I've got

512
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.320
another question here. I think this
is from Atomic Dog. You said,

513
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.440
David, gold has gone up about
thirty two percent of the last two years.

514
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.159
What does your guts say about the
future price increases? Is three thousand

515
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:59.159
likely within the next two years.
I saw something the other day, and

516
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:00.880
I don't remember what the time period
was talking about gold. Maybe it was

517
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:05.719
longer than two years, but it
had gone up quite a bit. What

518
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.159
is my gut feeling about it?
Well, let me ask you, Tony,

519
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.320
what's your gut feeling about it.
We're not making predictions there, but

520
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.159
we're talking about the trend. You
know, if we got any I know

521
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.719
that there's a lot of banks that
have picked twenty seven hundred dollars, you

522
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.880
know, by the end of this
year, beginning of next year, several

523
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.199
of them have picked three thousand,
and then of course you got some wild

524
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.519
outliers that go really high, just
like you see with bitcoin predictions and things

525
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.800
like that. What do you think, Well, I think just conservatively go

526
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:40.639
back to twenty twenty and City Bank
was expecting three thousand dollars gold during that

527
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.000
time, and I think the second
quarter they were talking about twenty twenty one,

528
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.239
three thousand. There's been a lot
of disruptions in the natural progression of

529
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:51.239
what gold's value is, and you
got to understand This is warfare, folks.

530
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.239
This is yeah, this is a
very you know, this is fourth

531
00:35:53.239 --> 00:36:00.159
dimensional warfare. That you've got.
The United States' Central bank is war with

532
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:01.480
gold. That's why they don't buy
it. That's right. The West is

533
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:07.119
buying it. Market is simply not
simply market forces. You've also got you

534
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:12.960
know, active manipulation. Yeah,
active manipulation. There again, there's a

535
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:16.360
revaluation of commodities, even things being
denominated in dollars. And I think one

536
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.239
day we'll look back and wonder,
what does what does that even mean that

537
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:23.079
we were denostinating all this stuff in
dollars? It is it is crazy.

538
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:28.559
You know. Gold is really if
you if you step back from it,

539
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.679
gold is the world's reserve currency.
It's it's supplanted the dollar already, you

540
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.519
know. And I think the final
nail in the coffin was twenty twenty two

541
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.320
at the invasion of Ukraine by Russia
and the sanctions that were placed to blow

542
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.639
back from that. And and so
I think that gold, it really is

543
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:49.719
the world reserve currency now. So
what happens with it being denominated in dollars

544
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.800
That's a great question. And I
think if you're if I'm betting on something

545
00:36:54.159 --> 00:37:00.079
I think easy three thousand dollars gold
in the next twenty four months. I

546
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.800
don't think that's really a problem.
It could be much higher. I mean,

547
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.920
honestly, would anybody blanket five thousand
dollars you know an ounce gold?

548
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:14.719
Probably not. But if I'm if
I'm understanding what happens when the price goes

549
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:19.039
up, it really slows down all
the things that I do. You would

550
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.800
think it would speed it up and
there would be like some windfall, but

551
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.239
it really doesn't. It's a really
crazy time. Like it takes me about

552
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:29.679
two weeks now to get paid on
a certain type of items, especially the

553
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.159
larger gold items. Even though the
price is up, I usually have to

554
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.639
sell them to the trading house.
It's taking a long time for that to

555
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.119
be valuated to be paid for it. So everything is slowed down, and

556
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:44.400
I think it's like choking out some
of the cause you know, you're dealing

557
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.239
with more dollars. There's more risks
that happens if you're holding that much more,

558
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.320
so you've got to understand all the
factors that will happen. So I

559
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.760
don't I don't pray for higher prices. By the way, I don't think

560
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:55.559
that's a good thing. Right now, I think it's right. I mean,

561
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.519
right where we are is crazy.
So this is the you know,

562
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.199
it's hit its all time gold hit
its all time high and five times or

563
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:07.199
something like the last four months.
So we are we are on a trajectory

564
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:08.480
of a bull market for gold.
But I don't think it's just a bull

565
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:13.840
market. I really think it's a
it's a generational shift, yeah, for

566
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.400
you know, for the world's reserve
currency of the dollar status moving away the

567
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:22.440
dollarization and revaluates. Well, you
know, we've talked about Zimbabwe for example,

568
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:28.719
you know the backs case in modern
times, a trillion dollar Zimbabwe note

569
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.880
and all the rest of the stuff, trillion Zimbabwe dollars. They did the

570
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:37.559
ziggy the Zimbabwe gold thing, and
it's actually gaining against the US dollar.

571
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:44.320
How bad is that? Where the
US dollars falling against Zimbabwe's currency. It's

572
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.960
up two percent over the US dollar. So I said, it's it's having

573
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.920
some problems in the country because there's
a big black market there competing in a

574
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.679
lot of different ways with the government's
currency. But internationally, you know,

575
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.400
people are liking it again because they
supposedly tied it to gold. I guess

576
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.679
maybe internally people don't believe that it's
tied to gold. You know, this

577
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:07.840
is the big lie. How do
we know that they're telling them it's the

578
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.480
truth? You know, It's like
when they always tell us a lie.

579
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:15.519
So but yeah, I think it's
it's going to be there. It's the

580
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.119
it's a safe play, you know, when you've we've reached a certain point

581
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:25.239
in time and you've been on roller
coasters of investments. I'm not interested in

582
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.079
any roller coasters at this point in
time. I'm too old to ride them,

583
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.400
you know. So I'm looking for
something's going to be kind of slow

584
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:36.440
and steady and stable and physical and
all the rest of these things that gold

585
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.760
and silver are. And that's that's
just my personal opinion. I you know,

586
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.840
the stock stock market is doing really
well, but it's like, you

587
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.079
know, just a couple of stocks
that are doing it. You know,

588
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:52.280
first it was seven now it's only
about four stocks, and it's focused on

589
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:58.519
AI and it's focused on Nvidia.
Things like that. These are things that

590
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.840
are kind of fads. And I've
seen a lot of fads come and go.

591
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.360
You know, as these people are
setting up their global conquest, what

592
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.000
were we doing back in the seventies, you know, people are dancing to

593
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.320
disco and wearing bell bottoms, you
know, so it's like, what do

594
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:15.400
we know? It's kind of crazy
and how uninformed we are about what these

595
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.960
movers and shakers are doing in the
background. So you've got a program that

596
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.119
is coming up following this one,
is that correct? Oh yes, sir,

597
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:29.400
Just at eleven am Central time Arderburn
Radio transmission. I'll be live on

598
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:34.000
a rock fin on the America and
Plug channel and my Twitter at Tony Ardeburn

599
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.360
and a couple other plays Freeworld dot
fm as well. Yes, yes,

600
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.719
good, yes, and I think
we still need to get there on so

601
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.400
yeah, someday we'll get our tech
changes done. It's so much stuff on

602
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.519
a regular basis. It's already get
something now, I understand. All right,

603
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.320
Well, always great talking to you, Tony. Thank you so much

604
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:53.599
for joining us, Thank you so
much for your support of the show,

605
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:59.960
and everybody check out his program immediately
following this, and you find on Twitter

606
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:06.920
on let's see right, at Ronnie
on ye yeah yeah, at Roman and

607
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.760
also at give me the addressing in
the FM at Freeworld dot Fm. You

608
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.039
can work to a lot of great
hosts there live and uh shout out to

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Jason Barker, who's been doing an
amazing job. He's streaming your show right

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now in Freeworld dot FM. Well
that's great. Yeah, do we have

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a link to that on our website. We need to make sure we've got

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at least a link to that.
Uh. So that's great. I'm glad

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that he's streaming that there. Well
again, thank you, Tony, and

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uh we're going to take a quick
break, folks, and we will be

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right back making sense common again.
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