WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.960 Attention. You're listening to the top Huff Radio show, America's home for conservative 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.000 not bitter talk radio. Be advised. The content of this program has been 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.599 documented to prevents and even cure liberalism, and listening may cause you to lean 4 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:35.039 to the right. Here's your conservative but not bitter host, Tod Huff. 5 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:39.159 I. Yes, my friends, welcome to today's program. It is a 6 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:44.520 pleasure as always and an honor to be here behind the microphone. You know 7 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.079 the routine. If you want to be part of the discussion, I welcome 8 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:51.520 you. I welcome you to join us show your thoughts and your questions, 9 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:57.359 your feedback always be sure to include that adoration and praise tot at Todheffshow dot 10 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.320 com or you can text three one seven one zero twenty eight to thirty make 11 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.760 account my friend. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. You know, 12 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:10.239 I had an experience here yesterday that I just want to share some stuff 13 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:17.000 with you. I actually was asked by our pastor. We kind of did 14 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:22.560 a I don't know, a discussion yesterday about some things that I think pertain 15 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.359 to what we talk about on this show. And I don't know, I 16 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:30.840 just had a lot of thoughts in preparing to share with the pastor and the 17 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:40.200 our congregation yesterday, and so I wanted to take a moment to maybe elaborate 18 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.680 or kind of share some of that with you too, because I think it's 19 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:48.640 it's relevant for our discussion. We got into a lot of different types of 20 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:53.840 things. But that's what I want to talk about today, and it's it's 21 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.319 kind of hard to talk about it until I talk about it, But that's 22 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:04.159 that's the main that's what I want to get to today, the gist of 23 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.319 it as they as they say so. 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We're doing a series or he's doing 39 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.919 a series on uh, just some things that are happening, I would say, 40 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:58.919 culturally and in particular, he's decided to talk about the election now, 41 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.120 not from the perspective of, you know, trying to campaign for someone from 42 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.800 the pulpit or something like that. That's not that's not what he's doing, 43 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:12.280 but rather talking about this sort of thing through a biblical lens and a biblical 44 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.600 perspective. And so he asked me, he asked me if I would come 45 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:19.480 up and kind of do a back and forth discussion Q and a sort of 46 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:24.240 thing. And so that's what we did. Had a great time, And 47 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.720 I just want to share a little bit about this with you because again, 48 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:34.000 I think it's it's very relevant to what we talk about here on this program, 49 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:42.439 and it leads into so many larger or well sometimes larger discussions, larger 50 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.240 issues. Sometimes there's a lot of rabbits that we could chase off of these 51 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:51.120 things that you know, not not necessarily bad rabbits, just so many things 52 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:59.000 that are distractions from or potential spin offs from what one where one question can 53 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.120 lead us. And so I just kind of want to go through this. 54 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:08.240 I'm guessing, I'm guessing that some of you would have these questions, maybe 55 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.639 many of you, and so that's where I want to want to start today, 56 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:15.480 and I want to share my thoughts on these questions. And of course 57 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:23.240 there's many more questions beyond this, but one of the things he asked, 58 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:27.560 one of the things he asked was how can I how can we have meaningful 59 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:32.720 conversations with someone that we disagree with, especially when it comes to politics in 60 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:38.800 this election. Right, So, look, I know that I'm talking to 61 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:44.240 a wide group of people here, so you may fall into this particular group, 62 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:49.600 one particular group or subgroup of a larger overall group, You're going to 63 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:54.920 find yourself maybe completely in the center of this group that I'm talking to, 64 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.720 at the core or parts of this or what have you. But you know, 65 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.639 I come at this. I come to this program as a conservative, 66 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:08.639 as an American, as a conservative, as a Christian, I'm a follower 67 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:14.600 of Jesus, and so there are specific things that as a Christian, God 68 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:19.199 expects certain behavior from us. Say that God expects certain behavior from all of 69 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:27.959 us, but it's only through his redemptive power that I'm able to do any 70 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:33.639 portion of that. Really, so what is the way that we should go 71 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:38.199 about this? Because this is unavoidable. Right, everything in this world We've 72 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.480 talked about this on this program before. Everything has become political. Where you 73 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:43.680 eat, drink, drive, where where you work, where you live, 74 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:49.680 all that stuff. And so America was a nation that was founded upon ideas, 75 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:57.759 ideas, by the way, that were fundamentally unique at the time of 76 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:02.240 at the time of her founding. You know, when our founders defeated the 77 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:11.560 British during the American Revolution. Typically what happens in that sort of scenario is 78 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:15.720 the leaders that win the battle established themselves as the new ruling class, as 79 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:21.240 the new monarch, as the new oligarch, whatever they become, the rulers, 80 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:25.600 the ruling class. But that's not what our founders did. It's a 81 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:30.199 beautiful thing, by the way, with the Founders, and look fully recognizing 82 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.800 here the Founders were not perfect men, absolutely not perfect men. But the 83 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:39.279 Founders did a lot of things right too. They recognized things that had been 84 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:46.160 ignored through large swaths of history. I would say the vast majority, the 85 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:48.879 vast, vast majority of history. And I've said before, you've heard me 86 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:54.680 probably say this, that for the first time, one of the first times, 87 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.720 if not the first time, that people were considered as Americans to be 88 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:05.720 citizens and not subjects, not subjected to the will and the whimsies of some 89 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.800 monarch, of some king. They didn't serve a king. The Founders realized, 90 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.399 recognized that Americans at all people, but in particular the country that they 91 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:24.279 were going to be trusted to build and create in form, the Founders said, 92 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:33.519 you are ultimately responsible to your creator. You are ultimately given your liberty 93 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:39.440 and freedom from your creator. Don't look at us to do that. You 94 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:45.120 are made in the image of your creator, and as part of that creation 95 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.600 that you are, you have certain inalienable rights. That among those are life, 96 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:54.039 liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You are created to be free. 97 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.559 You are not simply a ponn of the king. You are a citizen. 98 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:05.000 Your rights come from God. And so this led to truly revolutionary thought. 99 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:11.840 And as a kind of a consequence or consequence has a negative connotation as 100 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:16.120 a result, as a result of doing things, I would maintain the right 101 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.639 way, the best way that we can do them this side of heaven, 102 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:24.399 which is, allow people to maintain that liberty, those choices to live their 103 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:31.840 lives as they see fit. That unleashes, that unleashes the power of a 104 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.080 group of people, of a nation, of a culture, of an economy, 105 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.480 and it radically changed the face of the planet for the good. You 106 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.200 can't give money, my friends, to people who are needing it. If 107 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:52.919 you don't have more than you need. You aren't able to give from your 108 00:09:52.000 --> 00:10:00.080 lack. You're able to give from your the provision that's provided. And so 109 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:07.639 the economy, the culture, just the nation itself has experienced some throughout its 110 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.120 history, some absolutely wonderful things, things that we have even exported to other 111 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:20.000 parts of the world. Capitalism, though demonized by some has single handedly helped 112 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:26.759 lift more people out of poverty than socialism could ever dream. There is no 113 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:31.799 charity, my friends, without profit. There is no profit without free markets. 114 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.320 It's just the way, ultimately that is going to work. Otherwise, 115 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.159 the government thinks that it controls everything. People have no incentive to work to 116 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:45.559 be productive. There's less to work with, and people do not have their 117 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.840 needs met, and their dreams are squashed, and they're not able to live 118 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.600 the life that they believe that they should live. They're limited in their choices 119 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:58.919 because they don't have the freedom to take the risks to take these steps associated 120 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.759 with pursuing a dream, a lifestyle, a series of choices that they want 121 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:09.200 to make. And so this country has been built upon those things. This 122 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:16.039 country has flourished because we've accepted those things. And if America is built upon 123 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:20.960 ideas, I maintain that it is, and those ideas are what made America 124 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:26.159 great, then well, of course it's safe to say that if we deviate 125 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:31.440 from those ideas enough, America will begin to not be great again. If 126 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.679 the ideas make you great and you stop following the ideas, it's only a 127 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:43.399 matter of time before the greatness completely dissipates and disappears. So if all that 128 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.639 is true, If all that's true, it becomes obvious that we're going to 129 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.320 have to have conversations with people. We're going to have to have conversations with 130 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.759 people who don't currently see it that way and persuade them. We're going to 131 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:00.279 have to be able to communicate with them. We're going to have to be 132 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:05.480 able to say, Hey, here are the ideas that made America great. 133 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.759 We need to pursue these, follow these, embrace these, pass these on 134 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.399 to the next generation, or we're going to be in a world of hurt. 135 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:20.080 And so it begs then the question, how do we have those conversations? 136 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.840 And I mean we, I don't mean some guy with the microphone, 137 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.519 although I certainly have a role to play here as well. I have to 138 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:31.879 be able to use the moments of things happening in our culture and our media 139 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.639 narrative, things going on around around the country and around the world, to 140 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:43.559 engage in this sort of discussion, to be able to highlight and to promote 141 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.840 the ideas that in fact did make America great. And we have to then 142 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:56.600 figure out ways to explain those, teach those, persuade people to accept those. 143 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:01.480 And so there's a couple of things, and I'll get into this in 144 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.480 a moment. But have the right mindset, know the right stuff, discuss 145 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:09.000 it the right way. That's kind of how I put it. That's kind 146 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.000 of the approach. 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So back to the issue at hand. 171 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:18.759 Here we're talking about having the right mindset, knowing the right type of stuff 172 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.519 I guess you could say it, and discussing these things the right way. 173 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:28.159 That's how we have to have conversations with people who disagree or who have not 174 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:33.240 come to accept some of these realities and truth as I see it, and 175 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:37.759 so having the right mindset first of all, means that I have to understand 176 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:39.879 I don't know what all. That's humbling, and we have to be humble 177 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:45.840 by the way. We have to be humble because my friends, those convinced 178 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:50.360 against their will are of the same opinion. Still, that is an old 179 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.399 adage and old saying, and it's true. You can't strong arm someone. 180 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.519 You can't come in both guns of blazon and think you're going to by the 181 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:04.039 sheer intellect of your argument, by the your presence just walking into the room 182 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:08.799 boom problem solve. It's not the way, it's not the way that it 183 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:14.200 works, and it's not the way that you were persuaded. Maybe a couple 184 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:18.559 of you maybe needed that approach, but the vast majority of us come to 185 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:26.519 this through realization, right We Education learning often requires drawing out of us what 186 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:33.799 we already know internally, but we just don't have the tools or the We 187 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.360 can't always connect the dots. And that's really what we have to help people 188 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:42.480 do. Persuasion, when we're persuading people to come to realization of truth, 189 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:48.679 is not so much doing something to them, it's doing something for or with 190 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:56.679 them, and so it requires the right type of approach, and so sometimes, 191 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.960 I mean the last thing we would want, I would think, is 192 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:03.879 to have such an unlike likable approach and attitude that someone is persuaded by the 193 00:17:03.079 --> 00:17:08.240 logic of our argument, but they don't want to accept it because we are 194 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:12.799 repulsing repulsing them And you know, truth being known, we've all had a 195 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:15.960 little bit of that at some point in our lives. I mean, there's 196 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:22.720 something about you know if sometimes when we get knowledge, it kind of puffs 197 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.759 us up, and we we don't, you know, we kind of think 198 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:32.839 highly of ourselves. That's that's a way that I think something that humanity is 199 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:34.240 human nature to struggle with. But we need to be humble, we need 200 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.440 to be loving, We need to try to build a relationship. We need 201 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.119 to say that that person that I'm speaking with, that person I'm speaking with, 202 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.960 even though they may be the absolute antithesis of what I am and what 203 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:49.319 I believe, that person is just as equally made in the image of God 204 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:53.519 as I am. And so if I have a respect for that person, 205 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.880 a genuine concern for that person, I shouldn't go in to try to persuade 206 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:03.839 them. For reasons but for helping them come to the realization of truth. 207 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:10.240 And again, if you seek to persuade, understand that persuasion is something you 208 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:14.160 do with or force someone not to someone. And I'll add this, not 209 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:19.039 everyone you know is going to be persuadable by you. I mean there are 210 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:26.519 people what's the powdered butt syndrome? Right if oftentimes parents or older adults will 211 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.839 look at you as a kid, even if you've become an expert. I 212 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:33.279 don't like that word, but you know, if you have a lot of 213 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.000 knowledge about something, they still see you as some ten year old kid or 214 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.519 whatever. There's some people there's some things I like to say that only I 215 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.799 could say to my wife. There's some things that anybody on this planet could 216 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.119 say to her before I could. And we all have those situations, right, 217 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.759 we all have those relationships. Some people just are not going to hear 218 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:59.039 it coming from us, but there are certainly those that will. And we 219 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:03.400 have to see this as a win win proposition, not the you come in 220 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:06.839 with your argument, I come in with mine. I win, you lose. 221 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:08.559 I'm the winner. I'm the champion. It's not about you, it's 222 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:12.880 not about me. It's about truth. It's about It's about this country, 223 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:18.680 my friends. It's about your children and your grandchildren's future. It's about what 224 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.640 this country is becoming, what it will be. And so it reminds me 225 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:29.200 of Socrates when I talk about not having a win lose mentality here, because 226 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.359 Socrates never entered arguments in order to quote win it. I mean, it's 227 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:41.279 almost comical to picture Socrates bouncing around on his robe after astonishing people with his 228 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.640 logic and his just rational thought and so forth, up there kind of putting 229 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:49.519 his hand in front of his face and taunting, taunting those he defeated, 230 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:56.000 right, kind of the Angel Reese facial taun of Caitlin Clark back in last 231 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:00.319 year's women's NCAA National Championship game. It wasn't up there doing that. He 232 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:07.559 actually thought that people who were persuaded and actually learned something in the debate were 233 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:12.759 arguably the people who won. So that's an important thing. We need to 234 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:18.359 seek to understand more than to be understood. I can't tell you the number 235 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.359 of conversations and I've learned. Look, I'm not speaking these words as though 236 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.039 I follow them my entire life, or that I follow them all the time. 237 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:27.519 I just know them to be true through experience, and I think a 238 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:34.000 lot of this certainly has a foundation and biblical truth as well. I think 239 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:38.039 we should seek to be able to explain even if we don't agree. Right, 240 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:41.039 You've heard me say on this program, and I didn't come up with 241 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:44.000 this. One of the signs of being an adult is to be able to 242 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:47.799 entertain an idea without accepting it. Let me say that again, because I 243 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:52.039 think that's important. One of the hallmarks of being an adult is to be 244 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.279 able to entertain a thought without accepting it. And so if someone wants to 245 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:59.200 tell me what they think about something, I should seek to understand it so 246 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:03.599 much that I can explain it back to them correctly, without condescension, without 247 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.319 any even if I think it's the stupidest thing ever. Because if I can 248 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:12.119 explain it back to them, even though I think it's crazy sometimes and I'm 249 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:17.279 fair in the way that I explain it back to them, that right there 250 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:23.119 builds an incredible bond of trust and a bridge in the relationship. So we 251 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.839 should seek to understand more than to be understood. 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When we get back, my friends, I want 266 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:36.079 to continue this conversation again sharing some things that happened yesterday. I'm going to 267 00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:41.480 share some kind of questions and feedback that I got as well as the program 268 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.200 comes together today, but I have to take a quick time out back here 269 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:52.000 my friends. In just a minute, Welcome back, my friends. Just 270 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:59.319 sharing a little bit about what happened some of the things that I shared yesterday. 271 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.880 This weekend at at our church, we were again I was invited by 272 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:11.119 the by our pastor, Pastor Marty, to have a discussion about some of 273 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:14.640 these things through a biblical lens, things that I think have a lot of 274 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.960 direct relation to the things that we talk about on this program. And we're 275 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:26.319 talking about how to have meaningful conversations with people that disagree with us, especially 276 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:30.240 here as we enter the election season. We laid the groundwork on that the 277 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:37.119 importance of the ideas that built America and made America great. If we deviate 278 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:42.440 from those ideas, eventually our greatness will follow because if it's again the result 279 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:48.240 of ideas and we stop following those ideas, the greatness that comes from embracing 280 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.440 and living out those ideas, of course, also will come to an end. 281 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.400 So we're going to have to have these conversations. We're going to there's 282 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:00.200 no this is unavoidable. By the way, it's unavoidable. We all we 283 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:04.880 all have a role, we all have a sphere of influence. And again, 284 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.880 not everybody's going to listen to us individually, but there are people that 285 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:15.359 will. And we're talking about having the right mindset, knowing the right stuff 286 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.240 and discussing it, discussing it the right way. And so we've been talking 287 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.920 about having the right mindset, seeking to understand more than being understood, Be 288 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:30.400 graceful, be humble, have have something that is appealing versus having something that's 289 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:37.119 very dogmatic, you know, knock someone over the head with truth. Those 290 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.480 convinced against their will are of the same opinion. Still, you know, 291 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.960 no one is going to really, no one is going to just be completely 292 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:49.960 overwhelmed by our incredible intellect. That's not going to be what changes them. 293 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:55.480 What's going to change them is the realization that they themselves have to come through 294 00:24:55.480 --> 00:25:00.400 and that or come to and that is done by building relationship, connecting with 295 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.519 people and handling that interaction the right way. And we'll get to that and 296 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.680 here in just a moment. But we have to know the right stuff as 297 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.279 well. As a Christian, I would say I would tell all people this, 298 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:12.640 but as if you're a Christian, I would say, we should have 299 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:17.960 We should know what God says about these things. You know, even though 300 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.319 we often say these things are political, politics has taken over our lives. 301 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.920 Politics has has expanded to include every single thing that happens in our society. 302 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:32.359 And part of that is because we have a government that has its tentacles everywhere. 303 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:34.400 And so it's hard to say, well, that's not political because the 304 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:38.440 government is, you know, putting its fingers over here and over there. 305 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:44.519 But that's not the case. There's some things clearly, clearly that God has 306 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.759 to say. The Bible has to say about some of these issues, some 307 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:51.720 things that we can extrapolate, even if it doesn't directly say it, we 308 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.079 can extrapolate it and say, well, maybe we should think about this this 309 00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:57.400 one. Now. I'm not saying a theocracy. I'm just talking about the 310 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:03.240 way that we deal with certain issues, things like abortion. It matters, 311 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:08.920 it would matter when life begins. Science, by the way, tells us 312 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:14.440 unequivocally when that is, things like the role of government, the nature of 313 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:18.400 government. It's important that we understand human nature as a Christian. God tells 314 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:22.720 us unequivocally that we all have a sinful nature. There's no one good, 315 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:27.720 no not one, and so by recognizing that we should set up a system 316 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.839 like our founders did, of checks and balances that say, hey, we're 317 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:36.720 not going to trust that men are angels or that our government is going to 318 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:38.279 be angels. We're going to make sure that we make it as hard as 319 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:45.480 possible for there to be abuses. But ultimately, ultimately we've got to hold 320 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.000 those people accountable who do abuse their authority, and we have not done that. 321 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:55.200 We've advocated that responsibility for decades here in this country. I would also 322 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.319 say that we need to have a general understanding of the issues. Notice I 323 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:02.680 said general. I don't think anybody needs to feel like they need to be 324 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:08.200 an expert. I think general understanding from both sides. Again, I would 325 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:14.319 say, try to accurately portray the issues from both sides. Now, I'm 326 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.039 not saying that to please let me be clear. Just because I say we 327 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:25.440 should seek to be able to articulate both sides or multiple sides of an issue, 328 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.400 that does not mean that I think that all that they are all sides 329 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:33.519 that have a legitimate point to be made, just to be able to communicate 330 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.640 it so that you can get the you know, the starting point of a 331 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:44.400 discussion with someone who may believe this stuff. If you can't, even if 332 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.680 you can't understand their position enough to converse with them, it's going to be 333 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:52.960 hard to find a starting point that you can draw them, draw them at 334 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.319 least to the point where they would entertain or hear you out for sharing your 335 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:04.880 ideas as as well. So you don't have to be an expert. You 336 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.880 do not need a bunch of data, man oh Man, I think this 337 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:14.200 is this is something that permeates our culture today. Truth, my friends, 338 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.680 Truth doesn't need data to prove that it's true. Now, it might be 339 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:23.519 helpful to say, here's data to support it, but I've given examples on 340 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.359 here. You don't need, By the way, you don't need a bunch 341 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:32.519 of research data to prove that Burglary is wrong. You don't need a bunch 342 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:38.440 of research data to know that you don't want your spouse being well engaging in 343 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:45.480 extramarital activities. We don't need that. We don't need research data to show 344 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.640 us that abusing children or other people is bad. Like, these are things 345 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:56.240 that are obvious and oftentimes I'm not against I'm not against the data, but 346 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.279 I tell you what happens in a huge percentage of cases, data is collected 347 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:10.160 and then it has manipulated. The foundations of the research are often very flawed 348 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:15.799 and incredibly biased, and so we have things that just aren't true that we're 349 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.720 dealing with, and so we don't need that stuff. Don't bog yourself down 350 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.480 with that. I'm not saying it's not helpful. I'm not saying it doesn't 351 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:29.400 apply to any circumstance. But what I do know is that truth doesn't need 352 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.480 data to make it. So truth is truth, whether you and I believe 353 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:38.920 it or not. And I would also say we should think more about how 354 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:45.920 to think versus what to think. That's something that I think we've really deviated 355 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.160 from in this culture. We have a bunch of people here who simply just 356 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.839 want you to tell them what should I think about this? And of course, 357 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:57.240 just ever so conveniently, the left is running the seven Pillars of propaganda, 358 00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.440 which by the way, includes education, and they'll say, oh, 359 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.759 well, we're happy to do that. Here's what you think about that Trump 360 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:08.640 is guilty of an insurrection, Trump tried to overthrow our democracy. They want 361 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.160 to say, these are facts, this is what you think. If you 362 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.400 ask why, if you ask an explanation. Well, wait a minute. 363 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.559 That's when the censors from big tech step in and say, no, no, 364 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.079 no, you can't be asking that, you can't be even raising those 365 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:29.240 questions. Those questions in and of themselves are direct threats to our democracy. 366 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.680 Don't do that. No, No, let's see, we need to focus 367 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:34.240 on how to think more than what to think. We need to know, 368 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.160 we need to know the why. Years ago, there was a gentleman I 369 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.240 listened to his name's escaping me at the moment he said this, the person 370 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:47.480 who knows why, excuse me how we'll always have a job. The person 371 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.400 who knows why will always be the boss. Now, I'm not saying that, 372 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.920 you know, there's a time to be either one of those things, 373 00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.279 but I'm saying you'll move up the latter. You'll have more you'll have more 374 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:07.039 authority, you'll have more responsibility if you can articulate the why. And I 375 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:14.759 would say, even someone who's a radical leftist, now they're gonna be hard, 376 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.519 virtually impossible to persuade. So let's just say a liberal, I would 377 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:25.000 recommend connecting with them over the issue of liberty, the issue of being able 378 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.440 to be free and to live your own life as you see fit I think 379 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:32.839 you're gonna have. You're gonna be hard pressed to find people, even if 380 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.640 they disagree politically with you, who are not going to connect with you over 381 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:41.640 this, this idea of freedom and the importance that they can live their lives. 382 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.319 Is they see fit, that they shouldn't be told how to live their 383 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.880 lives, that they shouldn't be told what the priorities are, That they shouldn't 384 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.240 be told what they have to do for a living, how much they need 385 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.160 to work, all these sorts of things. They should be able to live 386 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:02.279 the life that they've decided to live. And once you establish that, and 387 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.839 you can start pointing out ways that the government is interfering with other people's liberty 388 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.960 to make their own choices, because it's taking too much of their money, 389 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:17.000 because it's forcing them to comply with rules and regulations and bureaucratic red tape. 390 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:23.119 It's making them make choices that interfere with how they want to live. And 391 00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.240 by the way, that lifestyle that they want to live does not harm anyone 392 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.039 directly. It's none of the government's business to make these things more difficult for 393 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.119 people, but yet they do. But if you can connect with people over 394 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:39.960 that issue of liberty. 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We talked about we've talked about how it's 415 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.960 important to have the right mindset, the right approach. We've talked about how 416 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.119 it's important to know the right types of things. And you don't have to 417 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.840 be an expert, by the way. We have to have a fundamental working 418 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:49.039 understanding of the issues to be able to converse and have meaning meaningful discourse and 419 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.719 dialogue and so forth. But we also have to discuss it the right way, 420 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.480 discuss it the right way. We have to first and foremost listen. 421 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.039 And I know that this might go against this a special if we're tired of 422 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:05.000 hearing nonsense. I get it, I get it. But we have to 423 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:09.000 think not so much about our feelings what we prefer at the moment. We 424 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:15.880 need to think about in terms of how do I make this the most productive 425 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:21.360 use of my time? Possible, and we have to listen. And on 426 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.360 top of that, I would say, we have to earn the right to 427 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:29.800 speak. We can't just say here I am, I'm going to walk in 428 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.360 the room, I'm gonna set you straight, tell you what's up, and 429 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:38.920 you're gonna walk away just mesmerized by the intellect and the argument that I presented 430 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:45.039 to you. That's just not the way that it works. And even if 431 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.440 it does work, it's something that people don't want to find agreement with because 432 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:55.280 it's so just unpleasurable. And so we have to listen, earn the right 433 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.239 to speak. And when we do finally earn that right to speak, I 434 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:07.159 would highly suggests that we follow the example of Jesus and that we often speak 435 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.679 with questions. And the reason for this, the reason, well there's multiple 436 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:17.679 reasons for this, but at the core is the desire that we all have 437 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:25.119 to make it our own idea. In sales, they'll tell you that if 438 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.920 you say it to a prospect, the prospect sees it or hears it as 439 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.599 a lie. You know, this product is the best product in the marketplace. 440 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.239 Well, that salesperson is lying to me, says the prospect. But 441 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:44.559 if you ask a series of questions and expose some of the problems and get 442 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:51.360 you know, some open discourse about what's going on, and then explain or 443 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:55.960 show how the product helps address some of these problems. The prospect may very 444 00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.119 well say, wow, this is the best product in the marketplace, because 445 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:06.480 if they say it, it's considered the gospel truth. And so we want 446 00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:10.039 to we want to have a teacher's heart, not We don't want to come 447 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.280 in and lecture. We don't want to come in a lecture. We want 448 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.159 to be intentional as well. We want to be intentional. We want to 449 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:22.079 think of those people right down the names of the people that you would like 450 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:28.800 to begin the process of discussing political issues. Heck, maybe maybe a religious 451 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.239 and spiritual issues. I don't know how you view these things, but all 452 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:38.480 under it doesn't have to just be one little it can be multiple things, 453 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:44.159 be multiple things. And so when we have these conversations, though, what's 454 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:52.079 important is that we avoid personalities and we avoid labels. You'll know that I 455 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.320 call this the Conservative America's Home for conservative not bitter talk and education. By 456 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:02.079 the way, but I do that because I mean, I kind of I 457 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.079 have to, right, I want to define who we are, and I 458 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.480 don't want someone else defining me. By the way, It's interesting to me 459 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.800 most people seem to understand the purpose of our brand. But every once in 460 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.320 a while someone will say, well, I don't think conservatives are bitter, 461 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.400 to which I say, I'm not saying anybody is better. I'm saying I'm 462 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:28.159 not the media. The media portrays us all as bitter. I'm going straight 463 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:32.119 to the to the people who may assume that every conservative is bitter, and 464 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:37.320 I'm saying I'm not. And I'm also not going to defend every There's no 465 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.360 way I can defend every single conservative. I've had people tell me they're conservative 466 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.400 and very bitter, and that's all right. We can still be friends here. 467 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:51.760 I don't think that's the best way to obviously do what we're talking about 468 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.440 here, which is persuade. But that's fine. If that's your brand of 469 00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.119 conservatism, that's your prerogative. But I'm not here to defend every can so 470 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.639 I couldn't defend every conservative and say that every conservative is not bitter. I'm 471 00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.840 saying what I am. I'm conservative and I'm not bitter, and you can 472 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.360 be a part of that that brand as well. That's kind of what we're 473 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:13.840 I guess teaching here today. But you want to avoid, you want to 474 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:20.119 avoid talking about issues through a political lens. You mentioned the name Trump or 475 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:28.239 Biden or Kamala or Speaker Johnson or Chuck Schumer or the Supreme Court Brett Kavanaugh, 476 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:34.039 Amy Cony, Barrett Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas. It's going to immediately 477 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.639 pep. People have been taught to hate these people. And I'm not saying 478 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:43.280 that we shouldn't defend them or that we shouldn't try to get people to understand 479 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.559 that these are not villains in the in the story here, but that's not 480 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:52.880 the purpose. The purpose is to get people to open to open their eyes, 481 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.800 and so we have to avoid those personalities. We have to avoid those 482 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.960 labels. And we also have to understand that it's not going to be one 483 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:05.000 conversation where some someone says, Wow, I've changed my ways completely. I've 484 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.920 had some pretty there's one example. I don't have time to share it. 485 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:15.239 I mean, I had a pretty pretty unique circumstance with a gentleman, a 486 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.320 gentleman named Doug a few years ago. But the truth is, most of 487 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:27.119 the time there's not some dramatic change, right, It's something that happens gradually. 488 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.039 It's not an all or nothing proposition. But whatever the case, my 489 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:34.760 friend, it's imperative that we have these discussions, that we'd be prepared to 490 00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:39.079 explain them and to persuade. And I've got to go. Thank you for 491 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:40.719 listening, SDG