1 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,079 Good morning, mana Warriors. Welcome to That's No Metal, You're weekly rock 2 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,880 and heavy metal podcast, and welcome to hyper Blasts, where we let you 3 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,399 know all about what's going on in the news. This week, we are 4 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:39,200 back with another one of these. Thank you very much for joining us. 5 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,079 I am Perren Hash and today I am joined by Elliott Paisley and Mark Sanderson. 6 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:46,880 How are we com all right? I haven't been up too much rock 7 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,079 music related stuff this week, just mainly watching and thinking about bad Kenneth Branner 8 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,799 films and what you did just learn just before recording that Steel Panther have been 9 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,560 on America's Got Talent? What is going on? What? What are you 10 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,879 doing there? Some of them you're better than this guy's you'd think, well, 11 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,680 they've all just gone home. So if you're listening you didn't vote, 12 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:17,120 shame on you. You could have saved metal. We failed them as a 13 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:19,799 people. The sensored lyric version of deft or metal they just did is like 14 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:26,920 sensationally stupid. Anyway, I'm a couple of days fresh off of Trivium's second 15 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,519 UK tour of the year, the Goblins and Wizards Tour, which I thought 16 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,719 was very funny, and ill fitting when the support bands were like not like 17 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:38,280 in the Chemists and Visigoth, but Orbit Culture and Belief and within like Scott 18 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:46,760 Kennedy has never encountered a goblin in his life. He's from Glasgow. Orbit 19 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:49,719 Culture. Yeah, okay, it's better live than on record, and I 20 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,040 think you can tell that it's really gonna you know, it riles people up 21 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,239 who just want that kind of like base universal metal stomp. I can't say 22 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:59,719 they don't win over a crowd. I'm just you know, I'm a seasoned 23 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:02,000 metal and I need more than some warmed over groove metal core with a bad 24 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,599 singer to get me excited. It's a bit like watching the Sugar cover snap 25 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:09,080 your fingers, snap your neck by prong for half an hour straight. Believe 26 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,840 them within predictably very good. I confess I haven't really thought about their last 27 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,120 album all that much since we reviewed it. But Levitate is a really great 28 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:23,400 chorus for them in the live environment, and Scott really engaging as a frontman. 29 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:25,520 You're like this Mark he went every time we come to Liverpool as an 30 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,199 energy in the room that you can't get anywhere else in the UK except for 31 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,599 Glasgow. Probably a huge kind of raucous, you know, chorus of Booze, 32 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,319 to which he was like, you know, come on, fucking prove 33 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,039 me wrong. Then and then and then Trivium coming through in small venues. 34 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,360 Obviously that's going to be wicked. Paolo. He's just had some like bass 35 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:46,680 sorry, some back surgery that we had to set up a couple of shows 36 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,919 and he's back, but he's got his base on like a little stand that 37 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,560 he just stands there with. Most conversations with Trivium this year have gone to 38 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,080 the setlist because the dead Men and Dragon's tour in January was great but featured 39 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,120 a shockingly small amount of dead Men and Dragon. This time, it's been 40 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,680 widely reported that this kind of they turned this intimate run into like an impromptu 41 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,560 fifteenth anniversary celebration of Shogun, not playing the album in full, but spotlighting 42 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:14,360 like a lot of songs from it they've either not played in a very long 43 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,039 time or have never played in front of people at all. It was nice 44 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:20,319 to actually see in the court of the Dragon this time. Opening the set. 45 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,599 We also got Catastrophists, so that's the lead singles from both of the 46 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,360 last two albums that I at least at my date, did not get the 47 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:30,919 last time they came around amazingly. I think with the dead Men and Dragon 48 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:36,039 stuff, it's long term representation we're hoping for at this point, like they 49 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,840 haven't taken the opportunity on their big touring cycles back to showcase all of the 50 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,120 stuff they amassed over the COVID period. Whether they felt they still had to 51 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:46,840 like jam the settlers with old stuff to appease the casuals or not, I 52 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:49,719 don't know. But as we see here with the Shogun stuff, and we 53 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:53,199 have always really seen the trivium they are an incredibly good band, one of 54 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,520 the best in fact, at continually giving outings to every bit of the back 55 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,639 catalog and freshening up the set list with you know, stuff they haven't done 56 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,639 so even if though you know, if you've been to both of these UK 57 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:08,360 tours like myself, you will now have seen about five songs from across those 58 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,360 two albums maximum. I am sure over the course of like I don't know, 59 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,560 the next ten years, there will be plenty of stuff drip fed in 60 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,639 every tour as they've always done. Today, I wanted to focus on the 61 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,160 Shogun stuff because I mean, if you were going to distract me from the 62 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:26,120 lack of new stuff you were playing, you'd put in Shogun stuff because Showgun 63 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,639 is one of the dearest of albums to me, and I think it was 64 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:31,600 very well suited to a more intimate show like this because it's always been the 65 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,879 connoisseur's choice trivium album. They wouldn't do the massive album in full, in 66 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,439 big venues celebration for it, like they seem to be planning for ascendency, 67 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,240 and the deep cuts that they haven't played off it they were throwing in in 68 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,720 this run are really like more obscure trivian songs. But I have wanted to 69 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:51,319 see some of those songs for like almost all of those fifteen years. When 70 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,199 they started that little Shogun section with Kuris day Gomen, which is a song 71 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,560 that I saw them play at the second metal show I ever went to, 72 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,959 and I haven't seen again, I don't think in that whole time in between, 73 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:05,040 like you know, from this album that's been with me through thick and 74 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:09,279 thin, that was a slightly overwhelming moment. And then the various songs they've 75 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:14,360 been rotating in, like the fact that they've been doing Japanese Shogun bonus track 76 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:16,560 the Poison, the Knife or the Noose. On some dates, I know 77 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,319 we got of Prometheus and the Crucifix and the Calamity, which of the pool 78 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:24,959 of songs that they've been like swapping in and out would have been my first 79 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,000 choices. Like Prometheus particularly is like the Trivium deep cut song I've always wanted 80 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,879 to say, so that was really special to me, torn between Sill and 81 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:35,720 tru rib this as well, like just like these spectacular songs from like the 82 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:42,079 epic metal album of my lifetime. Obviously, you know, with the Shogun 83 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,759 total track track coming at the first tour of the year as well, it's 84 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:48,560 been a great year for Shogun representation. Two Crusade songs as well, both 85 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,839 classics Becoming the Dragon and Entrance of the Conflagration, which I always think of 86 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,600 those being almost like prelude to Showgun. So that's fitting very well. And 87 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,240 then you know, when you're in a kind of little small venue and you 88 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,560 throw out Paul Harder fifth, it's just like so mega and I was thinking 89 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,560 about the kind of the wealth of Trivium songs that you know, across these 90 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,399 two UK tours they've done with two radically different set lists. They don't even 91 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,319 have to play Dying in Your Arms any of them like a song that huge 92 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:18,959 for them. We can kind of fall into the background. But as you 93 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,759 know, they have pretty much all but confirmed that after they take a year 94 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:26,879 off touring in twenty twenty four, they are going to be back for Ascendancies 95 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,439 twenty of twenty twenty five, so they can do all of that there, 96 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:31,600 and that would be like the biggest event that they can do. Mark, 97 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,759 You're at a Death Heaven show this week? Who was playing with them? 98 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,439 It was a slow crush, all right, slow crosh are pretty good shoegazy, 99 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,160 you know, pretty slow vibes as you would imagine. It's not fast 100 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:50,759 crush. It's not fast crush. But they ended with the quite a dancing 101 00:06:50,879 --> 00:06:56,600 song though, that was quite nice. Death Heavan. I will prefess to 102 00:06:56,639 --> 00:07:00,120 this by saying I didn't watch the hall set because it was enough. I 103 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:04,279 was in degree temperature room and I couldn't handle it. But that was my 104 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:11,360 first time seen Death Heaven and they were fucking crazy. I George is the 105 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,079 most manic showman I've ever seen. He was doing like Hercules poses during black 106 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Break and stuff. He's a he's a mentalist, got a lot. I 107 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:29,959 love a little slice of Infinite Granite songs that was lovely. Yeah, yeah, 108 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,959 I love that record. I don't know how you guys are feeling about 109 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:36,120 it. To your I really love it. I think it's basically I basically 110 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,319 love everything Death I would have done again. It's not my, it's not 111 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,639 my it's not definitive to them necessarily, but it's I think it's a really 112 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,279 great record. And then the songs were amazing life when I saw them on 113 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:46,879 the run for It. Yeah, it's a weird one for me because like 114 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,120 they were kind of the best at the thing they did before that, and 115 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,079 then moving into the Infinite Granites thing, it was like, you're still good 116 00:07:56,079 --> 00:07:58,920 at this, but it's not your Like you said, it's not your definitive 117 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,240 thing. It's not the thing that's going to I'm going to go to death 118 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:05,480 Heaven Force. So I haven't really gone back to it, but I do 119 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:07,600 remember thinking the songs sort of on the collet from First Principles, it is 120 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:11,720 a good album. Yeah, I've gone back to it quite a bit. 121 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:15,920 Yeah, it's one of those albums I wonder when the next album comes. 122 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,120 The way we look at infinite grant it will be cemented. Yeah, you 123 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,920 know that that. I've kind of been viewing it through a sort of prism 124 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:26,920 of like hoping that's going to be the case anyway, because I love it, 125 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:28,879 but I would like it to be like, yeah, I remember that 126 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,919 great time that they did that the way we look at like Alceste in Shelter 127 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:37,440 or something. Ohay, but yeah, the show was amazing what I saw 128 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,919 of it. Someday the title track, I'm never gonna not love that, 129 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:46,399 you know, worthless, animal from or going to corrupt human love, lovely 130 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:52,679 lovely stuff. Yeah, excellent news. Today we are starting with the return 131 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:54,919 of a band who have sort of hinted their return for a long long time, 132 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,759 but they are finally truly back in action. Job for a Cowboy this 133 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:05,840 week released their first new music in nine years since the twenty fourteen Sun Eater 134 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:11,600 record. They announced that their first show since like twenty sixteen is going to 135 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:16,879 be I think it's upcoming. It's like in early September a little while ago. 136 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,480 But Job for a Cowboy, you know, one of the most significant 137 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:24,960 death metal apps of their generation, who then promptly disappeared off the face of 138 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,679 the earth like basically untraceable after releasing what a number of people would consider to 139 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,679 be their their finest record, as they kind of evolved into this, you 140 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,679 know, frog Tech death band. I like Latter Day Job for a Cowboy. 141 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,919 I'm a huge fan of the Demonocracy record, and then sun Eya go 142 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,000 in you know, full kind of boodle Boodle is very very good, indeed. 143 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,919 But the fact that yeah, they just fucking vanished, but we do 144 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,919 finally seem to be, you know, back in the year of Jofro Cowboy 145 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,759 being an active band, and we have a new track from them here. 146 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,919 How are you guys feeling about the return of, as I said, one 147 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:03,639 of the most sort of significant, widely renowned death metal adjacent acts of their 148 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:11,320 generation. I'm so excited. I when I saw the announcement that they had 149 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,600 the new song coming out, I could have screamed, I've been waiting for 150 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,480 this for nearly a decade, Like I love Job for a Cowboy, and 151 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:20,799 I think, like the first death metal band you liked, I seem to 152 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:24,720 remember, like, because I've been into a hard going to death metal longer 153 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:26,440 than you, but I seem to remember the first band that you really like 154 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:28,960 talking to me about was like, I love Job for a Cowboy. Yeah, 155 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,200 ru Nation was. I bought it on a whim because it was in 156 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:39,200 HMV for three pound when I was like fourteen fifteen, So I just bought 157 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,799 it on a whim and forced myself to like it, and that's how I 158 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:48,600 got into death metal. Basically pretty heavy duty. So they're a very special 159 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,559 band for me. I love all of the records probably pretty much equally. 160 00:10:54,200 --> 00:11:01,039 This new song is sort of exactly what I would have hoped for. Like 161 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,679 it's got the bobbody base. It's still a progue epic, but it's got 162 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:09,799 a lot of the pre sunny to like death metal savagery to it. It's 163 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,360 got a proper edge to it, and it's still crazy and progressive, and 164 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:18,799 it's got a grandeur to the chorus. I guess that's the chorus. I 165 00:11:18,919 --> 00:11:22,360 really really love it. It's a weird thing. I've a job for a 166 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,120 Cowboy back now, because it almost depends on how you see them, because 167 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,919 they were kind of pivotal in the death core thing, and death cours as 168 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,320 big now as it has been since they went away. So if you see 169 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,320 them on that thing in that group, you're kind of go well death coors 170 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,159 Big Now, it'd be nice to see them get some sort of nostalgia roses 171 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,480 from some of those people. But the weird thing is their brand of death 172 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:45,679 metal, the sort of technical, clean thing is sort of in a dip 173 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,159 now in the wedding, sort of the opposite of where it was ten years 174 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:54,399 ago. But their last two records were so good that I am just happy 175 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,720 to have more of that thing. It feels like sort of a bridge between 176 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:01,200 those two things, Like there's a bit of the healthy portion of the prog 177 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:05,639 stuff, but it feels like it leans more on the straight up death metal 178 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,120 end in a large parts too. So yeah, I really like this. 179 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:11,080 I don't think it's quite as gripping as some of the best songs that they 180 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,559 were doing towards the end, but as their first song back in however many 181 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:20,399 years, I think there's a really impressive return. And I wasn't that excited 182 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:22,200 about Job for a Cowboy coming back because I do like those last two records 183 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,159 and I like the Doo Meet Be but they were never as super important band 184 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,840 for me. But hearing this, it's I'm glad that it would be nice 185 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,720 to see them get their roses I think, yeah, I think what you're 186 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,360 saying about that kind of clean, progressive style of death metal that they lean 187 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,759 into being sort of less less of a feature now than it was ten years 188 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:45,639 ago. My hope is that just means that they can just kind of exist 189 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,600 on their own terms being great in that right like that, Like one of 190 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:52,159 my favorite bands in that world are Obscurer, and that's how I feel about 191 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:54,039 them. It's like, you know, there's there were lots of bands trying 192 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:56,039 to do Obscurer who weren't as good, and now Obscure coming I was like, 193 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,840 Wow, I'm glad that you're still here being the best at that thing, 194 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:03,240 even if it doesn't have to be like an overwhelming movement. And my 195 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,799 hope for john Rick Cowboy would just be to have a similar trajectory to that. 196 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,679 I think, you know, Johnny's vocal is so recognizable when he particularly 197 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,600 when he goes into those higher like registers. That's always something I loved that 198 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:16,360 he does, and hearing that on this song, I just love to hear 199 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,840 those again. But it does, you know, have that kind of proggy 200 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:22,159 gate to it with the fretless bait that chorus pass where it kind of the 201 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,480 chords go like spacious. It is a good mix of kind of you know, 202 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:30,080 prog death and sort of existing insidely, you know, a four minute 203 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:35,600 kind of identifiably structured song. It's very dense, but it's four minutes long. 204 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,360 It's crazy, and I do like that even during the more savage like 205 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:43,480 death metal parts, the bass you can still hear the bass like popping around. 206 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:50,320 It's such a cool thing. And I never really considered the technical death 207 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,080 metal thing being a lot out of style. But job for a coboy can 208 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,039 do whatever the fuck they want. They're the best at anything they do. 209 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,919 Yeah, So it's very good to have Jeoffrey Cowboy back. I do hope 210 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,840 this is part of a larger record. We have a couple of EP announcements 211 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:07,639 from two of the most sort of you know, beloved bands of the last 212 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,720 couple of years. The Calloustowboys are releasing their first music since their very very 213 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,000 acclaimed record the other year. It's an EP called God Smiles Upon the Calloustowboys, 214 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,840 and that's going to be out on October the twentieth and spirit Box have 215 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:26,200 also announced an EP which is slightly more substantial than the Rotoscope EP they released 216 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,639 a year or two ago. This is a six track EP. It's called 217 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:33,399 The Fear of Fear. They've released a single from that, but it also 218 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:37,600 features the single The Voids that we spoke about a few weeks ago, So 219 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,799 that's out on November the third. Both of those EP releases, I guess 220 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,480 we will kind of talk about more fully when there when there is more music 221 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:48,799 available from them, more kind of new just single tracks. Here we have 222 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:56,960 Steven Wilson returning with a new solo album announcements. Stephen Wilson, I mean, 223 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,360 like obviously this is coming off of the back of the Poor Key Pine 224 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,200 Tree record from twenty twenty two. I believe that one that came out, 225 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:09,159 and like Pokepine Tree, I mean I really really liked that comeback Pokepine Tree 226 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:11,279 record. I thought it was fantastic for them, and pokemone Tree are a 227 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:16,559 band who I like finally got into really are over like the past like handful 228 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:24,480 of years. But Steven Wilson's solo material still somewhat I guess eludes me. 229 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:28,919 Mark. I imagine you are more of a fan of just all out sort 230 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,840 of progue pop. Stephen Wilson, I am, yeah, there's sort of 231 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,960 up until hand cannot Raise from twenty fifteen. I am a fan of Steven 232 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:46,679 Wilson's is a bit more you know, Prague Magazine dad than a porcupine porcupine 233 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,960 tree. But I do really like his career up to a point. What 234 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:56,080 about you, Elliott, Yeah, I think Steven Wilson, It's been a 235 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,559 tough one for me because the last couple of records have taken solo for me 236 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,480 to get into them, and like you, Mark, I think the first 237 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:07,039 run of records he did solo all so great, and then hand cannot erase. 238 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,240 It was like, you haven't really written any songs here. This is 239 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:14,200 sort of just it's a bit nature documentary that record for me, and then 240 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,279 to the Bone had like one or two really good songs and a lot of 241 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:19,120 it was kind of much the last one in future Bites. It might be 242 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:23,799 the most divisive record he's done in any band, because you speak to people 243 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:26,399 and either they love it or hate it. I thought I had one like 244 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:33,039 incredible song on it in Twelve Things I Forgot and a few other okay tunes, 245 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:36,399 but I wasn't that gripped with the thing in it's entirety. So it's 246 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:41,279 a funny one and again it's a weird one because he's kind of moved into 247 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:44,960 this pop thing, but the song's almost less immediate, and yet he was 248 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,440 going to do the O two before that tour got canceled, So it's a 249 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,559 weird thing to pitch his popularity or the popularity of what he's doing now. 250 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,120 Yeah, well this is any track called Economies of Scale from a record called 251 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,200 The Harmony Codex, which is out with everything else on the tiny of September. 252 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,319 Again as a sort of non solo Stephen Wilson fan. This didn't do 253 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,559 an enormous amount to sort of like bring about some kind of epiphany in me. 254 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:14,440 Now that's a bit. It sort of left my brain as soon as 255 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,839 it ended. Really, yeah, it does. It does seem like a 256 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,680 song that is more of like an album based thing. So maybe it's a 257 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,000 bit of a wasted effort to be talking about it right now. But I 258 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:27,119 don't know if we'd review the Stephen Wilson record, we should I put it 259 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,559 in, But you know, there you go. Stephen wilson new solo is 260 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,079 coming out. Something I would definitely be thrown to you on Mark is the 261 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:37,720 fact that Taking Back Sunday have announced their first new album in seven years that 262 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:45,400 feels quite amazing. The album is called what is it called? Okay? 263 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,759 That's why my eyes were skipping over that one five two. I don't know 264 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,960 the significance of that. That can bet on October twenty seventh, and there 265 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,680 is a single out called Sold, which is clearly so old but with a 266 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:02,559 little apostrophe in and taking by Sunday, I guess the last thing I really 267 00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:07,039 liked from them was probably like sometime over a decade ago, so you know, 268 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,599 again not really lighting my fire here, but I throw to you, 269 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:17,640 Mark, what's with the auto tune on this? Why is his voice doing 270 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,279 these like wobbly kind of runs towards the end? Man, I'm so tired 271 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:26,759 of this. I'm so tired of every time. Is this really another one 272 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:27,720 of those? Like again, I've mean that invested in to take about some 273 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:33,319 day to track their trajectory, but this is this like a hard knock to 274 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,000 be fair, like contextually taken back, Sunday, I've been going through a 275 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,359 bit of a I don't want to say identity crisis because that sounds a bit 276 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:47,839 mean, but the last record they released just sounded like against me. Yeah, 277 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,880 and then before that they were trying to recapture the roots but be more 278 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,079 mature, and it didn't really hit either. Flicker Fade from Happiness is as 279 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,000 a great, great song that's had taken back and their classic, but other 280 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:06,720 than that, they've been ropey at best for about a decade. But I'm 281 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:11,759 so tired of one of my favorite bands coming back. And my first listen 282 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:15,880 of the new song is spent entirely thinking about how bad the production is. 283 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,279 It's it's a bit feled money. Adam doesn't even sound like Adam. He's 284 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:26,680 one of the most be weird, one of the most like identifiable emo vocalists, 285 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:32,200 and he just he sounds like a computer man on it. Yeah, 286 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,799 it's rubbish. Like I don't want to shoot on them because I do love 287 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,240 them, but it's not it's not great. They try. It was particularly 288 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:44,839 the vocals. Like I said, there's this I wonder if it's an intentional, 289 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,079 sort of creative choice to add a kind of bit of an auto tune 290 00:19:47,079 --> 00:19:48,759 wobble onto him. But it's like it feels like that ship sailed quite a 291 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:52,160 while ago. It's a weird time to be doing it. Yeah, it 292 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,359 does sound like they're trying to capture sort of a feld Money Tiktoki, but 293 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:03,000 a little bit more grown up perhaps sound, but it doesn't work like and 294 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:07,359 the hooks aren't there. They tried the classic two vocalists at the same time, 295 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,400 didn the vocal lines thing near the end, and it just it just 296 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,920 doesn't hit. Yeah, I don't know about that. I think more reliable 297 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,400 where we can assume that there's not going to be going for some kind of 298 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,000 orter tune. In a fact, in the fact that Autopsy have an ounce 299 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,160 that they are going to be releasing another new album. It's called Ashes, 300 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:26,640 Organs, Blood and Crypts and it's out on October twenty seventh. The context 301 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:33,039 for this is Autopsy when they came back with the Macabaternal record in twenty eleven. 302 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,720 For about four or five years afterwards, they were releasing something every single 303 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,240 year, like it was just reliably, like clockwork, here's an Autopsy album 304 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:42,799 at the very least, like an EP or a mini album or something. 305 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:48,480 And then for like a similar span of that kind of time, they just 306 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:52,240 suddenly went silent and the juicers stopped flowing. We stopped getting this concept flow 307 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:59,319 of Autopsy material until the record Morbidity triumphant from the last year, and then 308 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,319 sudd lead to get the news that we're seeming lead back to Autopsy doing an 309 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:06,599 album every year again. Elliott, you were saying earlier, it's a bit 310 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,839 like, oh wow, we're fully back into the right timeline. Yeah, 311 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,119 some things just feel right, and waiting for Autopsy records just it doesn't feel 312 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,400 natural. It feels like you should only be able to listen to the on 313 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,640 four sides before you've got more Autopsy to listen to. And the last time 314 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,759 they followed up an album this quickly, they followed up The Headless Ritual, 315 00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:27,920 which it was. It was good, but it's probably my least favorite Autopsy 316 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:36,759 record. Are the one that came after that fun uh yeah, probably a 317 00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:41,160 special case in it. And they followed that over the way better record and 318 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:45,240 more ability. Try another one. Yeah was great last year. So if 319 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,759 these trends continue, pretty good. And looking at the track list, any 320 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:57,640 album with a song called toxic Death fuck with Yeah artwork is suitably brilliant Autopsy 321 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:00,920 all the time. You're right, I don't got around to picking up the 322 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:04,079 latest record, and I wanted to just nice to have them back continuing again. 323 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:11,160 Damnation Festival have unveiled their completed now bill for twenty twenty three with a 324 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:15,759 final few additions. The kind of headline one I guess of this particular announcement 325 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:21,359 being the kind of wild card addition they have said that, you know, 326 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,359 occasionally they're like, we like, obviously we're an extreme metal festival. You 327 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,160 know, they're in post rock and stuff in there as well, but occasionally 328 00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:30,759 we go Our demographic is mainly people who are probably about forty years old. 329 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:36,680 When these people were Mosha's twenty years ago. Let's give them an opportunity every 330 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:41,160 year to kind of relive their youths. And so the announcement that on Earth 331 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,640 are going to be performing the Oncoming Storm for seeming me the only date they've 332 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,319 not annound there doing a twenty fan of every thing around the World or anything 333 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,119 like that, but just Unearth are turning up here at you know, are 334 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,319 fairly large, but not the largest in the country. I guess, you 335 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:00,400 know, metal festival doing their most iconic album. That's one that even the 336 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:04,079 other non Damnation faithful might look at that and go, oh, I'd beat 337 00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:07,160 down for a bit of zombie auto pilot. This is what's so weird, 338 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:11,599 is my mates and I were chatting about Arctics getting booked for Bloodstock, and 339 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,720 we were like, how far could Damnation go in that direction? And we 340 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:18,799 all kind of agree that it'd be weird from to book a proper noughties groovy 341 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:21,160 metal core band. But I think, like you said, this makes a 342 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,039 lot of sense because the Oncoming Storm that is a bruising record, and I 343 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:33,039 think it's more sense than doing the poison right right. I think on a 344 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,559 Damnation bill like this one, which is kind of more heavily leaning on the 345 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,200 esoteric, the patient, the kind of proggy end of things, I think 346 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,200 it's a nice counterbalance because last year's bill had a pretty healthy portion of like 347 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:48,160 really most friendly stuff, like virtually all the headliners, the people who love 348 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,960 seeing Jane No last year. A healthy amount of those people are also going 349 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,559 to love the Oncoming Storm. Yeah, this is it. Like I never 350 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,319 even considered on Earth. As I put later, I was thinking more of 351 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Bullet for my Valentine, continue the way the going. Maybe they can do 352 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:06,200 the I saw merch tents. But but this I think is a pretty like 353 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:10,359 a pretty savvy booking. And again I never thought that. I know They're 354 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,200 never been one of my bucket list bands. But this has got me well 355 00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:19,079 excited. I'm so jealous. You can fuck off. I I've never wanted 356 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,960 to be a Damnation More. I love that record. It's a classic. 357 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,240 It's for that type of metalcore, you know, two thousand and four proper 358 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,640 breakdown, heavy melodic death metal leads my metalcore. That's one of that's like 359 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:41,920 Mount Rushmore. Pick for me and you'll be better. Be motion hard for 360 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,799 your old pal Mark. Yeah, I mean I know that for Sam this 361 00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,799 will be one of the things that they would most be anticipating at this thing. 362 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,279 And as I said, this is the completion of the Damnation Bill, 363 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,880 so let's take a little look over the post we have it. That is, 364 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,880 this is of course including the Damnation Bill and the Night of Salvation show 365 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,400 that they do the day before, which features a lot more of the kind 366 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,319 of special album theme sets and so on. And I would to talk, 367 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,640 I guess about Gavin who's the main kind of promoter and face behind Damnation Festival. 368 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,960 He's one of that we said if you times, he's one of the 369 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,960 most like kind of open honest promoters who is heavily associate with an event that 370 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:18,960 we have in heavy music really, and he's been quite open about the fact 371 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,799 that you know, they're they're doing all right, but compared to the mega 372 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,599 event that was last year, it's been a little bit more of a kind 373 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:27,799 of slower tick with sales and whatnot. And I've seen a few kind of 374 00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:32,200 comments from people being like, the Damnation lineup this year, it's not as 375 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:33,480 good as it was last year. There's not enough for me. And I 376 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,440 know that like last year, you know, when you've got Jane do in 377 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:41,279 full Slaughter of Soul, in full Street Cleaner Revoll, that's more like huge 378 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:49,960 headline albums, that event sets that maybe this doesn't have. But the idea, 379 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,039 like the comments I've seen to people like oh, there's only three bands 380 00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:57,200 I want to see this year, confuses the ever loving fuck out of me, 381 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,000 because, like I mean, if you are someone listening here who doesn't 382 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:03,880 really go into the kind of the more heavy, you know, kinds of 383 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,279 underground music, that's fine. I mean that probably is that Damnation isn't the 384 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,319 kind of festival you'd be going into anyway. But if you are someone who 385 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,480 is in the Damnation demographic who would normally go to this festival, what what's 386 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,640 wrong with your taste if you somehow won't need to manage to find like two 387 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,559 bands on this bill that you're a fan of. I saw someone saying like 388 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:23,920 I only wanted to see Rotten Sound, and it's like, what if you 389 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:29,119 like rotten sound, how are you not going to enjoy a now on a 390 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,319 thrack or anything else? It's and it's like, I guess, you know, 391 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,640 the only thing that is sort of lacking is they haven't got the huge 392 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,119 headline names for death metal this year, Like they haven't got a cannibal corpse 393 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,559 or a suffocation or a bituary or something like that. But if you like 394 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,519 doom, if you like black metal, if you like kind of grind, 395 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,039 if you like post metal, I mean arm and Rah Julie Christmas Lepreus performing 396 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,079 Coal and Full. If you like your post rock, there's maybe she will 397 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,160 who I know, a huge draw there, you know, But I'll kind 398 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,400 of lower down the bill. We've got Chemists, a Hab, Death, 399 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:04,960 Action, Spire, Harriet like I just Dead, Guy Are Back Dead, 400 00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:11,559 Yeah, I just I fully cannot imagine being someone who likes the kind of 401 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:17,440 music that Damnation caters for and only having a couple bands on this build you're 402 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,240 interested in. Even if there is on there a couple of bands you're interested 403 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:25,400 in, there's a good chance you'll get to see them twice. Exactly. 404 00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:30,519 I'm really excited to see two side sets, you know, but they instead 405 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,799 of Doom below the Lights? How are you not happy with that? Yeah? 406 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,880 And fucking the Daily Record. I just, I just I'm so confused 407 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,000 at any negativity around this line up, just because they've not got Jane No 408 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,920 for a second year in a row. I don't, I really don't get 409 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,880 this. Like I think, if you are disappointed or underwhelm, it says 410 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,599 more about you than it does about Damnation. Frankly, because last year, 411 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,839 like you say, it may have had the headline grabbing things, but the 412 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,240 number of things I missed last year because I was watching something else like it 413 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,200 might be head honestly might be the best festival like billing I've personally ever been 414 00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:10,400 to, And I think following that up any year is like a near impossible 415 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,920 herculean task. But looking at this, I'm already getting anxious about the things 416 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,519 I probably won't see. Yeah, I don't. I look at this and 417 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,400 I don't go, Oh, that's a real shame. After last year's event. 418 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,480 You know, I look at it and go, oh my god. 419 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,519 You know, Electric Wizard performing their own UK show for the big one, 420 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,039 which is they are one of the hugest bands in that world. And then 421 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,960 as said you going down the bill, everything from en Slave to Judy Christmas 422 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:41,759 to Acacca to Rotten Sound as well Ash Inspire. It's just it's one of 423 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,880 the best lineups of the year once again. Yeah, surely Aca Cocker as 424 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,160 a slam dunk for the Damnation audience. Yeah. I just you know, 425 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,920 if you want to see a festival like this continue to operate at the scale 426 00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:00,640 it's operating on, booking all these amazing, you know, exclusive flung bands 427 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,200 from all of the worlds of kind of underground music. It's a really special 428 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,519 thing. So please do you know, support it. I'm really excited to 429 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,440 go along to this completed event where you know, for one thing on Earth 430 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,960 are going to be performing the Oncoming Storm also slightly interesting sort of you know, 431 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:17,599 detol. I think it we've never mentioned really on this podcast before, 432 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:22,759 is as a festival called Fortress Festival, which I might have joked about because 433 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:26,640 I think it started for its first year last twenty twenty three, this year. 434 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,319 It's a festival that happened in Scarborough and it's a black metal festival and 435 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:33,880 I couldn't go this year. It was like around too many other things. 436 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,160 But they had Popticon, who you know, if you've heard our album Club 437 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,839 we did on Kentucky last year, are a hugely important band for the last 438 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,480 like kind of fifteen years of black metal in general. But the Popticon, 439 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,240 I've only recently started doing live shows. It was always a one man project 440 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,640 and their UK debut happened at this random festival in Scarborough and I was like, 441 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,960 what the fuck? This year fortunate festal twe twenty four, they've got 442 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,200 Popticon coming back and they are doing there my favorite album with there's the one 443 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,880 that got me into them, Rose to the North in full and elsewhere. 444 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,559 In this first kind of lineup of bands for bands who we've spoken about on 445 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,200 this podcast, they've got Lamp of Murmur and they've also got Black Braid coming 446 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,799 for their first UK show, which feels like a bit of a get to 447 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:17,319 get you know black Braid for a UK exclusive. I am. I'm seriously 448 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:21,279 looking up Fortre Essel this year and going I should go to Scarborough this year. 449 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,640 That's really good. And that's only the first round. Yeah, and 450 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,480 the first ever falls of ra Ross Ross. Yeah, it's a big one 451 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160 as well. And again this is a smaller band. But I was so 452 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,359 happy to see Obsidian Kingdom get booked because I saw them at Damnation years ago 453 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,359 and thought they were excellently like a proggy post metal band from Spain with loads 454 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,839 of energy and if you're into stuff like Leprous and Soulstafere, check out Mansis, 455 00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,400 which I think is the record they're playing in full here, So even 456 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,720 just like little like tiny curios outside of the big headline thing. Yeah, 457 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,279 it's a pretty much like water tight first announcement, I think. Yeah, 458 00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,920 I'm a big fan of Abistle, the kind of a very chaotic dissonant Deathmital 459 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,480 and who are on there. But again just for sort of the headline name 460 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:06,200 bands, they've got one here, Panopticon coming back again, Lamper Murmur and 461 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:10,519 Black Braid. If you like your black metal, that's like immediately very very 462 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,400 enticing, and then just to swing to the other end of the that's the 463 00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:18,920 metal spectrum. Spanish Love Songs have an outset doing a an enormous UK tour. 464 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,079 The kind of UK tour where you know, again, as an unto 465 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:22,039 others fan, I think experience, I look at it and go, oh, 466 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,880 I worry about the ticket sales filling that many venues, but I really 467 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,640 hope they managed to pull it off. They're doing, like what is this 468 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,119 about, at least ten dates, more so in the UK at various places 469 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,839 you know, around the country. The reason Sam is not here right now 470 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,200 recordings with us is they are watching Spanish Love Songs as we speak, but 471 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,519 they're coming back immediately, so you know, good things there for the Spanish 472 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,400 Love Songs fans. The news came this last week that bray Wyatt's had passed 473 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:55,319 away. Bray and Wyatt being a wrestler who in kind of the you know, 474 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,880 the T and M circles most notable for heavy collaborating with Code or In 475 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,759 to do his his you know, they wrote the original song to use as 476 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,960 his his theme music. And I know again Sam would be our wrestling correspondent 477 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,720 who could speak to the full sort of magnitude of what bray Wyatt kind of 478 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,920 achieved in that world. But I know, obviously Code Orange I saw posted 479 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,319 a very heartfelt Jamie particular kind of tribute about you know, the kind of 480 00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:22,440 collaborative process that led to that. And I know that, you know, 481 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,559 there are people out there who heard of Code Orange for the first time and 482 00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:29,720 a now fans because of you know, this this huge wrestling entr theme that 483 00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,759 they did so and that's a real loss that is felt here as well. 484 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,200 And then just quickly won't spend you know, an enormous amount of time on 485 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,720 this, because I think we've done an awful lot already. But we've got 486 00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:44,480 a couple of updates on some of the year's more unsavory stories, I guess, 487 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,480 just to kind of put a pin in them for now. See Jammin 488 00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,119 from as Murder, who was our primary kind of discussion point on last week's 489 00:32:52,119 --> 00:33:00,960 show, posted an apology video for the violent transphobic comments that he made forgot 490 00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:04,119 him, you know, kind of removing his post from social media and everything. 491 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,960 I will read it here. Hey, guys, CJ here just wanted 492 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,200 to make this video to apologize to everybody that's been upset and offended by the 493 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:13,720 video that I shared and commented horribly on Instagram a few days ago. My 494 00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,599 intentions weren't to be transphobic in any way, shape or form, and now 495 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,960 it's gotten to a point where it doesn't really matter. All my intentions were. 496 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,960 I apologize to the LGBTQ plus community and their allies and the people that 497 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,920 support them, and I thought I did support them, but obviously my video 498 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,839 that I shared and commented horribly on has proved otherwise. To my friends I 499 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,519 have that are trans, please don't take this as be being transphobic, My 500 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:34,640 intentions were very different to be anything other than that. And I apologize to 501 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,319 my band, and I don't blame them, so I don't know what to 502 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:42,400 say. I'm sorry quit Personally, I find that to be a very weak 503 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640 apology for a lot of the reasons we discussed, and i'd been conversation last 504 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,599 week. Again, I can't speak for Sam, who is not here, 505 00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:52,160 but an apology largely made up of I didn't mean to be transphobic. Please 506 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,359 don't take this as me being transphobic feels very out of whack with parents who 507 00:33:55,359 --> 00:34:00,279 accept the gender identity of their children should be burned to death. And you 508 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,079 know what, he says, his intentions weren't to be transphobic. There's no 509 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:06,599 attempted explanation of what he possibly could have meant. By that, where you 510 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,360 know, where did that extremely ugly sentiment come from. You can't just say 511 00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:15,000 that you support LGBTQ plus causes while your actions seemed to suggest very much the 512 00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:17,400 opposite. The band seemed to be kind of quiet. Right now. I 513 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,440 think some more action to really show that you know that concrete support should be 514 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,679 made. It is obviously good that apology was made, but without any further 515 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,800 action or elaboration for me, it rings a bit hollow. You can make 516 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,519 your own decision, and I guess that also applies to the update that we 517 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:37,880 got that the the German prosecutors who were investigating the the sexual assault misconducts and 518 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:44,000 allegations everything that we're going on around Tin Lindermann of Ramstein have dropped their investigation 519 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:50,239 as of this week. And you know that that is something where there was 520 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,920 like an you know, an active legal investigation like this we didn't want to 521 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,800 weigh into heavily when it was happening. You know, it's kind of let 522 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,760 it unfold, you know, don't say anything potentially libelous or whatever. But 523 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,599 it this means really, I guess that we don't have any kind of closure 524 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,480 with it in the eyes of the law, not enough evidence was produced to 525 00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,320 kind of come to anything. But you know, in these kind of cases, 526 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,480 I know that that isn't enough to make a lot of people out there 527 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,960 feel super you know, assured and kind of comfortable that to say that these 528 00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:19,719 things definitely didn't happen. There's an awful lot that has been you know, 529 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,599 put out there into you know, the ether and the internet, you know, 530 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,840 around the kind of the the so called talent scout who was kind of 531 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:30,679 accused of recruiting goals for this whole situation that was allegedly going on, where 532 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,360 the lion's share of the alleged misconduct occurred if it was to have done. 533 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,360 So, you know, we can't really say. Unfortunately, that's all that 534 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,199 could really be said on the matter right now. I guess you know, 535 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,320 this situation with allegations being brought against Till and others in a circle did occur, 536 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,719 and without any lead confirmation. Again, you guys just kind of have 537 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,719 to go with your own feelings on it. Let's move on to questions which 538 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,880 come from thes of focus group on Facebook and Ben Wilmot. I guess we're 539 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,880 just going to quickly cap off our discussion before what album sets the Damnation lineup 540 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,239 are the most salivating ps. The correct answer is audio No Are by Boss. 541 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,760 It's funny you say that, because that is like the one really that 542 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,039 doesn't really kind of you know, wet my whistle too heavily. But I'm 543 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:12,000 glad that it's on there because I know that will be an event for a 544 00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,280 lot of people, and you know, that would be a big draw and 545 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:15,840 I can go and see something else. So I'm glad that that is happening 546 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,119 there for me, the big one, and there are again a handful that 547 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,719 I'm really excited for. But of the special kind of album sets, it's 548 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:30,840 Accoca doing corns On, which is one of my favorite records really, and 549 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,559 I saw them doing the go to Mendez at Damnation like two years ago, 550 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,000 and it was like right when two years time when they come out of doing 551 00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:38,800 corns On, which is the one it's one of the greatest extreme metal records 552 00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:44,320 ever, I think that is going to be the really really big one for 553 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,800 me. And then elsewhere I mentioned the double side shows. I'm really excited 554 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,119 to see Scorned Defeat played. I think that's gonna be a real moment. 555 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,000 And of course, you know the Enslaved sets and the Catonia sets, but 556 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:59,599 Corenson will be one if I had to pick off these special ones. Yeah, 557 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:02,320 I think it's terms of using the word excited, Corenzon is the one 558 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,400 I'm most excited for because I kind of I have a fairly good idea of 559 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,679 what it's going to be, but I've never seen Akacca. When I missed 560 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,079 the Goat of Mendez, which I think is actually the album I prefer, 561 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,719 I was pretty gutted about that. So to right that wrong on an album 562 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,880 that I think is at the very least comparable is so I'm really excitful. 563 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,360 What I'm more intrigued by maybe is, like you say, the Scorned Defeat 564 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,840 set by Sight and the Enslaved doing the debut that I can't pronounce because both 565 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,840 those bands are so wildly different to who they were when they made those records. 566 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,679 I do wonder if is it going to be sort of straight down the 567 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,760 line recreations of those records or are we going to get some kind of artistic 568 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,639 reinvention. I'm kind of happy either way, to be honest, because I 569 00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:46,639 think both albums are so good in their original form, but particularly the Enslaved 570 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:51,719 one actually because I don't even really know anyone whose favorite Enslaved album that is, 571 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,840 and they were bound who have a fair few contenders for like what the 572 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,840 classic is so below the low Lights being one of those. So that's going 573 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,679 to be a yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that, like I 574 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,760 say, sort of like the Acococa thing, I feel like I have a 575 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,440 fairly good idea of what that's going to be. Still incredibly excited for it, 576 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,039 but yeah, that the King ligear VELDI I really like. Yeah, 577 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:14,039 I feel like it could go one of a number of ways, and I'd 578 00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,920 say maybe the overall, that's one I'm most intrigued about. But I mean 579 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:22,159 again, the fact that I haven't mentioned like Dead Guy or the Oncoming Storm, 580 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,280 it's not even it's just mental. Yeah, and Mark, if you 581 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,880 were going it would most certainly be the Oncoming Storm, right, although you're 582 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,719 a bigger Would you be there for an audienoir? Oh yeah, I like 583 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,000 that record. It's probably the best basque records. I saw them a couple 584 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,159 of times while they were touring. That would be nice to revisit that. 585 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:43,039 Yeah, Oncoming Storm, come on, you get to see Endless, the 586 00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:47,400 best breakdown in the world. Very good Marcus Franz asked, what are some 587 00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:52,400 bands where your favorite song was never on an album or EP? For example? 588 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:55,440 My answer would be burned by the cure do it. Kind Of looking 589 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,360 over this question, I came to the conclusion that I can name an awful 590 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:07,119 lot of great songs are like non album singles, even non EP singles. 591 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,599 Maybe they're from a split, maybe they were just released on their own or 592 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,719 whatever. But I genuinely could not come up with a single answer where it 593 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,559 is my favorite song from that band. Like the best songs I could come 594 00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:21,280 up with for this category, I always have something it's on an album or 595 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,400 rep that is like my absolutely number one. So I in terms of the 596 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,480 literal definition of this question, I cannot answer it. I can only name 597 00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:30,239 a whole bunch of songs I think are great and I think are up there 598 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:37,599 with their bands kind of respective catalogs. I had one right, It's not 599 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:45,880 very exciting. But when Andy beer Sack Andy Beer Sack from Black Veil Brides 600 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,719 he started the Zany Black Project, the first song he released, they Don't 601 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,119 need to Understand I think that was on the first album wasn't. No, 602 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,719 it's not It's not even on Spotify. It's only available on YouTube. I 603 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:04,440 adore that s It's such a slick, perfect, lovely little pop song and 604 00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:07,559 he's not done anything with it's nowhere, And I'd go as far as to 605 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,840 say that's the best song he's written. Full star, We don't have to 606 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,119 dance as the song that I was thinking of, it's on the first out 607 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,280 right okay, but yeah, that's the best song he's ever written. Dance 608 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,119 we can come up with Andy Black Elliott. Do you have anything or are 609 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,199 you like me where it's a similar boat like lots of great songs, but 610 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,480 not any absolute best they've ever done. Yeah, I misread the question, 611 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:30,800 so I thought it was just so. I've listed to a bunch of songs, 612 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,760 and I'm quite glad that you pulled me out, because if I went 613 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,599 first, I would have said my favorite mass On song now was cut You 614 00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,480 Up with a Linoleum Knife from the upteen Hunger five so on track, which 615 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,840 great. So death Bound that is great, that's true, that's yeah. 616 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:46,079 I'm looking at these now. I'm trying to think if there's any that I 617 00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,039 want to hold your hand by the Beatles, I don't know if that's my 618 00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,159 that's not my favorite Beatles song or Careful with the Acts Eugene my Pink Floyd 619 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,719 definitely not. Yeah, No, I can't. I can't think of any 620 00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:59,519 yeah other major ones. So I'm just gonna name a bunch of songs I 621 00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:04,400 think great but close, but no cigars essentially for this. I mean like 622 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,599 square Hammer is like a standalone single that was on a cover's EP. I 623 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:08,880 guess he wanted to throw in the seven inches of Tannic Panic as well. 624 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,159 Shouting this Guy's Above by Trivium one of the all time great Like if someone 625 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,159 was to tell me that was their favorite Trivian song, I would say fair 626 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,760 enough, it's pretty fucking immense a controversial one, but Out for Blood by 627 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,880 Code Orange is a recent one that I think is up there. All out 628 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:30,199 Life obviously as well. One of the best, Shake the Disease by depeche 629 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:36,599 Mode is Unreal Aggressive Perfective by Slayer I guess technically never exists on any sort 630 00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:39,239 of larger thing apart from the Metal Massacre compilation, and that's a who an 631 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,760 icon it tune. I think the closest I got to like that was a 632 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:50,440 favorite is there is a spoul Barred song called Open the Cages that was on 633 00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,440 a split they did with a man called The Tidal Sleep, and at least 634 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,760 when it came out that was I was like, this is my favorite tune 635 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,960 that you've done. I'm not sure if it I could still say that right 636 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:02,519 now, but it certainly is in the conversation and there was a comment as 637 00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:07,280 well on this question where someone pointed out that the Smiths have shiploads of songs 638 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,519 on you know, on but again, I don't know if any of those 639 00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:14,199 songs would necessarily be my absolute favorite Smith song. So I just loads a 640 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,239 great which oh yeah, is actually an answer. Again, it's might not 641 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,480 count because it is on B sides and the luxe editions and stuff. But 642 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,920 I do think my favorite Weezer song is I Just Felt the Love of My 643 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,159 Dreams, which is on the de Luxe version of Pinkerton. But okay, 644 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,679 it's not on a record, and you can chuck Suzanne in there as well. 645 00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:34,639 They'll probably both be at the top ten, so and you could chuck 646 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,480 in It's always Sunny in Bikini Bottom. I'm very likely to do. So. 647 00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:43,480 Yeah, I really love Redshift by Andrew Gary, but again that's not 648 00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,000 Yeah, there's a there's a bunch of those that again are contenders, but 649 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,920 and you know, obviously the commentary question here said said burn your boys don't 650 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,440 cry. I don't think it's technically on an album they've They've got a load 651 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,039 as well, but again none of those are would be you know, I 652 00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,840 don't like those more than the best songs of disintegration, and so I couldn't 653 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,199 quite a definitive answer. Graham Preston asks what band would you still pay one 654 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,239 hundred pound plus four? Nine nine's Nails are the only band who I would 655 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:14,000 still throw all my money out I, at least to memory, I haven't 656 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,719 a date had to do in one hundred plus. Like the biggest shows I've 657 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,280 been to this year were depeche Mode and Iron Maiden. Those like the upper 658 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,519 register of what I paid really for like a single band, and those were 659 00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:29,239 both sort of around eighty So trying to think of something that would go over 660 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,599 that. And then I've also seen like most of the mega mega bands that 661 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:36,559 I want to at this point, so I'm trying to think of, you 662 00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:40,800 know, bands who realistically I would maybe be prompted to do this for. 663 00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:45,960 I think the biggest one is the Misfits, where you know, for a 664 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,559 start, if I want to see the lists at all, I have to 665 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:52,039 pay upwards of that for a flight. But if they were to play here 666 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,920 and it was one hundred plus pounds, easily like take my money straight away. 667 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,760 I think Metallica, if they were to go that high for something next 668 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,920 year, I could be tempted. Even though I have seen Metallica, I 669 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,639 don't think it would go this high, but the cure I do have to 670 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,320 see, and like I did for eighty with the Depeche Mode this year, 671 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,079 I would do it. I've not seen ac DC, so maybe if they 672 00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:15,360 did, like a farewell tour at some point, if it went that high, 673 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,239 I'd be tempted. Kind of classic rock bands of that size and ilk, 674 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,400 there's probably not too many others I go that expensive for, you know, 675 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,360 like I wouldn't pay that for Guns and Roses. I wouldn't do that 676 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,400 for Kiss or Aerosmith Rush. I would, but they aren't around. And 677 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,199 then I don't know if I'm actually joking or not when I say Man of 678 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:39,920 War, you're not joking. I'd seriously think about it. I'd pay a 679 00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:45,880 hundred pounds to be next to you while Man of War boy Hey, other 680 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,800 bands play Man of War kill. That's so true. I'd i'd pay a 681 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,719 hundred point pounds to watch you watch them kill. I think I did pay 682 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,599 about one hundred quid for a foofight just tickets. Okay, yeah, I 683 00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:02,599 would be that for the food Fighters. I yeah, while I was paying 684 00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:06,400 it, I was like, oh, fucks, say, can I really 685 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,280 justify this? But I love the food Fighters and I'm taking my mom. 686 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,679 That's a nice gift for my mom. Sure, yeah, it's I'll justify 687 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,000 it then. But other than that, fuck fuck off, I'm not paying 688 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:20,199 that. Would you pay that for let's say again Metallica or a CDC, 689 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,119 which you know, maybe a last chance to see one of those bands? 690 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:27,280 Would you? Would you be tempted? Actually? Yeah, if if if 691 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,559 it was like the only chance to see a CDC or Metallica, I probably 692 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:37,239 would. How much do Mattalica because they're doing the whole two nights, Yeah, 693 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,559 that's the whole thing for It depends on if you're doing one night or 694 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:42,880 two, which is just like any band. But I imagine it would for 695 00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,400 the single stadium tours and doing right now, it'd be similar to what I've 696 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,079 done for other bands. Paying like eighty or something. I like, I 697 00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:50,800 said, if it went up to one hundred, probably gonna at any twenty 698 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,599 quick. If James Hetfield called me and said, don't worry, Mark would 699 00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:59,760 definitely want to play King Nothing and I disappear, I'd probably pay a hundred 700 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:07,320 I disappear in answer for the great even though I truly if anyone's favorite metallic 701 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:13,000 because someone is I disappear, I think you're a lunatic. Even that is 702 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,920 well extreme. But yeah, the thought of paying a hundred quick, I'm 703 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,000 sort of against it in principle because it's it's like if you're to a pub 704 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:22,679 and you pay, if you just pay like fourteen quid for a pint, 705 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,679 it just turns to piss in your mouth, like as you're drinking, you're 706 00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:31,599 just you're so your analytic perception is so high that you kind of stop enjoy 707 00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,039 it, because I felt like the whole time just going have I wasted my 708 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,880 money? But so it would have to be a band I've never seen before. 709 00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:42,159 We're like dependably great and put on at least something of a show. 710 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,880 So like nine Inch Nails, I might spend one hundred quids. Tall Again, 711 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:47,800 I saw one Snails last year and it wasn't one hundred quid, so 712 00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,920 oh well the only the only band again, this would well, it would 713 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,239 be flight. It's gonna have to fly to a jazz cafe in New York 714 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,440 if I wanted to see it. But I kind of have this rule for 715 00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:00,519 myself, which I like because it will never happen, so I never have 716 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:05,360 to obey it. But if Naked City Reform, will travel as far as 717 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,320 I can afford to to get there because it's nice. It's uncomfortable saying out 718 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,719 loud because if they reform, it probably will be on Mars or something and 719 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,440 I'll be long dead. So, like I said, it's never going to 720 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,039 happen, but I would go as far as I would pay a one hundred 721 00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,239 pounds to watch them play the song that starts to begin your funny Games. 722 00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:28,519 That'd be fucking great. Yeah. Bands who I think actually could go to 723 00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:32,239 that level who I would at least consider paying it for The Misfits, Metallica, 724 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,039 the Cure. If I had to a CDC for a last Hurrah, 725 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,559 maybe Man of War and Mark Paul asks. I was really going to ask 726 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,760 whether you think Slipno could keep their identity secret nowadays like they did, But 727 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,239 then I thought of ghosts, so I've changed it to how much harder do 728 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,519 you think it is to keep identity secret now with social media compared to when 729 00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:52,679 slip not arriving the scene? And who do you think has had the most 730 00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:54,679 bus But I wanted to know who they are. I think the elephant in 731 00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:58,280 the room you've not mentioned here is sleep Token, which I think is a 732 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,039 really interesting case of this because it's like, I know who the sleep Token 733 00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:05,679 singer is, right, And that's not me having some kind of industry insight. 734 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,880 It's just if you go on the internet, he's kind of you know, 735 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,400 you can find who it is, similar to maybe Ghost Circle like twenty 736 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,440 twelve, twenty thirteen or something like you know, before official and masking or 737 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,199 anything. But you could go down rabbit holes and go, okay, that's 738 00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:22,440 clearly to bias. But sleep Token there doesn't seem there's a lot of interest 739 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:28,119 in unmasking them, Like even like from their Rabbid Rabbit fan base, people 740 00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:30,719 just seem to be going with the kind of you know, sure you're you're 741 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,320 you're a mask guy. I don't really care very much, And I wonder 742 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:38,239 whether this speaks to a a different in sort of information overload, where when 743 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,280 again slipnot terrive on the scene and you are relying on print magazine still for 744 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:50,519 most of your kind of information about rock bands, maybe that sort of soul 745 00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:52,360 infosource you know, television as well, if you like, as well, 746 00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,400 creates more of a want to discover these mysteries, whereas on the Internet you 747 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,679 are so fucking bombarded with just everything existing all at once. Anyway, it's 748 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:12,320 like, is it actually exciting to know who the sleeptoker man is or you 749 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,280 know, if ghost we're still our master this day. I don't know if 750 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,280 it is, it's more exciting to me. If I don't know, I 751 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,880 don't. I don't really care. It's going to be someone I don't know. 752 00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:28,440 I know. Obviously this is bands who exist on an extremely different level, 753 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,360 But there are quite a lot of black metal bands we're still to this 754 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,840 day no way fucking idea where they are, but who? But this is, 755 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,039 like Mark says, if we don't know who they are, that would 756 00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,480 be true even if we knew who they were, because if what they unmask 757 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,000 them, It's like I want to who the singer of so and so is 758 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,880 it's like, Oh, it's a guy called Philip and he works in a 759 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,440 war museum, you know what I mean. It's like, it's not like 760 00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:46,960 it's going to be some wow who had any idea. I feel like the 761 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,159 anonymity thing is only compelling either if it's implied that the band members could be 762 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,880 famous, like whenever we were going to Stave Rolling Ghost, or if they 763 00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,960 manage to exute like tons of personality despite the anim aim to see. But 764 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,960 if you do manage to do that, you'll probably be fine after the veil 765 00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:09,119 is lifted. Anyway, there's a heavy rumor that at Bloodstock twenty sixteen when 766 00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:14,840 Ghost headlined it, Dave Grohl played drums, and like, if anyone knows 767 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,280 that, I would love to be at least aware that that happened. It 768 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,679 seems like it could be bullshit, but there was enough people were like, 769 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,519 oh yeah, like Dave Grohl's playing drums for them. It was like, 770 00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:27,039 and there's no way of proving it. I saw a Ghost play a show 771 00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:29,400 seven years ago, and I don't know if Dave role played drums. Are 772 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:36,639 that's cool though, that's different than a touring band. If it's like a 773 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,360 one off thing. Yeah, I'd like to know that, but I know 774 00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:44,719 who's the basis, and sleep Talking I couldn't give a fuck. Yeah, 775 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,079 I think it's almost like I think Ghost arrived almost at like the turning point 776 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,920 of this sort of demand for information where people were rapidly seeking out whereas now 777 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,079 I think, particularly you know gen Zars, who have kind of just been 778 00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:02,480 raised in this constant flux like just everything being bombarded at you on the Internet, 779 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,800 there's almost a level of like not caring really because it doesn't make any 780 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,639 difference either way. So I think Sleeptoken they are a band who have sort 781 00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:15,360 of been able to take advantage of the full Like again, it's it's kind 782 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,320 of an open secret, if you know, if you look in the right 783 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,719 places, who Sleeptoken singer is. But no one really seems to be in 784 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,840 any rush to kind of make any big deal of it, because what does 785 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,719 it really add to, you know, the being a fan of the band. 786 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,039 Does that whole attitude of sort of being cynical about like slip Knot and 787 00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:37,159 staff of other people on the care about them because they have a gimmick? 788 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,679 Does that still exist with like Ghost and sleep Tooken, I don't really know. 789 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,360 No. I think people have said that about those about those bands, 790 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,480 But again, as someone who adores one of those bands and absolutely hates the 791 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,679 other one, I view both of them quite similar in terms of, like, 792 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,159 it's not the thing to judge the band on, like it's part of 793 00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,199 the press sentation, but it's got absolutely nothing to do with whether the band 794 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,639 is good or not. You know, we actually, in a way we 795 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,679 kind of saw how compelling the anonymity thing is with Slipknot, even in the 796 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,920 last ten years. Because they've drafted in four people and they've never announced it 797 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,840 from the outset who it was. It kind of had to be sniffed out, 798 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,800 and Jay and VMan were sniffed out almost immediately. Christ's replacement, Michael 799 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,280 was worked in like less than a year, and I feel like Craig's replacement, 800 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,400 people already seem to know who that is. But even though all those 801 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,719 names are certauling, as we all know, if you talk to people who 802 00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,920 maybe like a couple of slip Knot songs but aren't following it, and I've 803 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,119 known them, they go and it's amazing because people still don't know who's in 804 00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:38,559 the band. You go, we know everyone who's been in the band, 805 00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:42,800 We know everyone who's left. We know like all of that information, if 806 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,119 you say, if you want, it is out there, but clear people 807 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,920 don't really give a shit, right, Yeah, It's like it's not that 808 00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:51,679 because it's ultimately it's not gonna they're going to tear the mask off and it's 809 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,920 like you know their dad or something, do you know what I mean. 810 00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:59,280 It's like it's ultimately some people you also don't know. So yeah, it's 811 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,880 it's it's it's one of those things where again and so many people have done 812 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,280 it. I kind of wonder if it's just we're going to be one of 813 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,119 those things of the past now where people will realize it's not worth hiding. 814 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,880 Yeah. So basically answer the question is which we did really answer, Whether 815 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,199 it's easier or harder. I think it comes down to people don't really give 816 00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:20,039 a shit now, So I guess in a way that maybe slightly makes it 817 00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:23,719 easier. I don't know, even though I guess it's it's easier for information 818 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:29,199 to leak, but it's harder to make people care about that information. Is 819 00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,079 the answer? 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That's out, and to close us out, we're going 827 00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:04,119 to talk through some of the album releases that are out at the moment. 828 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,960 It's been a couple of weeks since we've done one of these because I, 829 00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:08,079 you know, I missed a week of these because I was a bloodstock. 830 00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:13,639 So just to quickly rattle through a bunch of the things that have just sort 831 00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:15,280 of been of note in the last couple of weeks that maybe we didn't cover 832 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,719 on our review show before we get to this Friday's releases. I think the 833 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,159 biggest one that a kind of stirred the most reaction out of people from last 834 00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:30,239 week was Holding Absence as third record the Noble Art of self destruction. I 835 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,880 kind of checked some of this out. I'm sort of very casual the interested 836 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,400 in Holding Absence. It didn't quite grab me as much as previous ones have 837 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,920 done, even though a lot of people seem to really really like it, 838 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:49,519 and I wonder whether that maybe just sort of speaks to knowing the deal right, 839 00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,400 Like the standout songs on this didn't smack me in the face as much 840 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:58,039 as like an Afterlife or something. And it's not really a lot of surprises. 841 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,679 Yeah, it's repeating the trick, but they are very good at the 842 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,679 trick. It's not going to be my favorite Holding Absence record, but False 843 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,480 Dam has a fucker of a chorus on it that is an absolute tune. 844 00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:12,760 Yeah, well, there you go. It's very you know, it's fairly 845 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,760 respectable, maybe just not like in my world on Fire. The Armed did 846 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,599 come back as well with their Perfect Saviors record, which is the foot to 847 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,320 ultra pop again. I've heard some of this. It's as always with the 848 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,920 Armed, who are band? I think the Armed they're a bit like Liturgy 849 00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:30,599 in that I feel like I sort of like them, but I can never 850 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,119 bring myself to fully be passionate about it because I just kind of can't make 851 00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,599 my mind up on it, Like it's just a kind of a strange thing, 852 00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:39,599 strange slippery thing to get a handle on that, and I don't, 853 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,360 I don't know. It doesn't it doesn't move me in a kind of primal 854 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,800 way. It just sort of like strikes my ear occasion and goes all that's 855 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,920 sort of interesting. But the Armed you know, there are people who fucking 856 00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:52,199 mental for that band. So even though I didn't see as much around this 857 00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:54,440 as they did Ultra Pop, So I don't know where that's a lesser reck 858 00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:00,159 of them or anything, but that came out not quite as exciting as the 859 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,559 return of asking Alexandria with their album where Do We Go From Here, which 860 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:06,960 I feel like this is about the third asking of Sandra I'm in a Row, 861 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,719 which we've mentioned in this sort of offhand way of going. I didn't 862 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,840 know there was an Act Andrea album until it came out, and I've not 863 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,000 seen a single person like that. Their fans are fully the Schrodinger's box of 864 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:22,280 you know, fans, and I wonder this is maybe even the last time 865 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,639 we include them in this like hyper Blast round Up, even cursory mentioned, 866 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:31,000 because what is there more to say about a band who clearly have a lot 867 00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:34,280 of you know, a silent majority fan base, who are you know, 868 00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,760 streaming the fuck out of these records? But then no one actually ever seemed 869 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,280 to be passionate about have released another record and a long stream of those where 870 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,960 no one actually converses in anyway. So the People's band, I mean, 871 00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:51,719 but I did listen to the first track on this and there's just like, 872 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,440 there's like this awful electro drop in it, but at the same time the 873 00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:58,880 chorus is on a blast beat. It's a very weird combination of things. 874 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,880 But the other the album peaks two seconds in with a bad blood Yeah, 875 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:07,159 very jarring. And then if that's not enough for you, The Word Alive 876 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,360 had an album out called Hard Reset. I know Sam was kind of joking 877 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,880 a bit about this. This album features guest spots from bad Omens, Escape 878 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,480 the Fate and From First to Last, which is a real real run of 879 00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:24,840 the camut of that I guess to complete that trifector. Hot Milk also released 880 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,480 an album called A Call to the Void, and I saw the tour they're 881 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,360 doing for this album. It's fucking massive, Like they're playing like I think 882 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,679 it's the Forum and places like that like Hot Milk. I have now become 883 00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:37,880 a big band for a band that we spoke about first few years ago and 884 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,880 kind of went no, So yeah, there you go. Those are all 885 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,800 out elsewhere Orbit Culture, who are the Man? I mentioned earlier metal bands 886 00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:47,679 from Sweden. I belie who spot a Trivium quite popular at the moment. 887 00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:52,000 They're really called the Scent. Some things that I would recommend to you. 888 00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:54,679 The Fiddlehead album Death is nothing to us. They have always been a pretty 889 00:57:54,679 --> 00:58:00,079 solid band in that regard. Death Clock have also come back. Brent and 890 00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:06,280 Smalls Metalocalypse spawned fictional Death notal band with Death album four. Have you guys 891 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:12,320 ever? I guess sort of had any interest in death Clock slash Metalocalypse about 892 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,679 ten years ago. Yeah, that metalocalyps is one of those shows for me 893 00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:21,679 where it's like I'd love to love it. Whenever it's on, I'm always 894 00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:23,960 like I'm in the I'm in the chocks waiting to laugh or something, do 895 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,199 you know what I mean? Like I'm just gonna go okay, Okay, 896 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,519 I know the coffee song, but that's about it. No, I mean 897 00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:35,360 the occasionally they put a couple of bangers, like that Bloodline song that was 898 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,440 on Guitar Hero is a good tune. I don't know how much more there 899 00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:39,079 is in a sort of death clock theme thing, but there you go. 900 00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:42,840 Death Album four is out. If you want some kind of you know, 901 00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:47,519 early Teutonic style, kind of very you know, speed thrash metal stuff. 902 00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:51,760 It's a man called Knife who released record called Heaven into Dust. It's got 903 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,800 a wicked album cover. And then to kind of continue more than the extreme 904 00:58:53,840 --> 00:59:00,559 front death metal icons, Incantation released Unholy Deification. God Thrim released Distortions. 905 00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:04,880 That's a band featuring Hamish Glencross used to play in My Dying Bride kind of 906 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,159 following more and that I really like the first record. Bluetous Nord released the 907 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:14,360 newest record in their Disharmonium series of records. It's called Nab Blue us Nord 908 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:22,920 Absolute Nightmarish makes Mark Cryant God Black Metal. It's a scary record as always. 909 00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:27,719 An earth Faust released Unter Gang Who and they've actually announced that this is 910 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,000 going to be their kind of farewell record and they are immediately breaking up. 911 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:34,840 And they've always been kind of, I guess a presence in the kind of 912 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,599 you know, if you deepen your underground metal or foust always seem to be 913 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,679 kind of around, So that's a fairly you know, a notable departure. 914 00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:44,880 You go check out the last record and a couple of EPs from before Drab 915 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,599 Majesty released An Object in Motion. And I had been waiting for the return 916 00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:52,239 of Drab Majesty because they loved their last album from twenty nineteen, I believe, 917 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:54,280 and this EP is kind of a curveball. It's like, not really 918 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,239 the kind of gothic synthpop thing that you'd think of them. Therefore, it's 919 00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:01,199 got some more like psychedelic sounds and stuff. It's it's not really the sound 920 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,239 I think works best with Drab Majesty, but it's kind of interesting that they've 921 01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:08,599 done it, and also kind of just surprise dropped full of Hell put a 922 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,559 split with a man called Gasp, and listening to that it's very much on 923 01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,239 their kind of lengthier, noisier end of the spectrum. And that will bring 924 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,159 us forward to today's releases, you know, fully up to date. Here. 925 01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,039 Royal Blood are back with another album called Back to the Water Below. 926 01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:28,639 I know it's cool to sort of roast Royal Blood because they are funny and 927 01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:31,760 they are stupid, like they had their you know, throwing their toys at 928 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,480 the PRAMM moment earlier this year. But I've always thought the music is reliably 929 01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:38,440 solid for what it is, So I guarantee they'll be like a couple of 930 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,719 like decent radio rock tunes on this record. Something I think it's more inspiring 931 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,920 for people that I think we will be reviewing in our upcoming show, because 932 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,320 how can we not is Empire Empire State Bastard's album Rivers of Heresy. That 933 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:57,079 is the Simon Neil Mike Vennutt extreme kind of noisy collaboration featuring another than Dave 934 01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:01,719 Lombardo on drums drums. More to come. They're Polaris releasing an album Fatalism. 935 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,000 This is a metalcore band. I know they lost one of their members 936 01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:07,039 earlier this year, so if this is a record, it's kind of be 937 01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:08,079 produced in the aftermath of that. You know, I hope they are, 938 01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:12,639 you know, it kind of provides some some some catharsis for them. There. 939 01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:15,920 Jeff Rosenstock a real top hero of the kind of indie punk scene. 940 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,159 He's releasing His new album is called hell Mode more in that kind of vein 941 01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:22,239 as a man called taking meds called dial M for Meds. I listened to 942 01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:23,960 a single from this and it's sounded to me there was some kind of like 943 01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:29,599 Matt Skiberry Alkaline Trio influence in there, so maybe go down there. And 944 01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:35,360 then everyone's favorite German Judas Priest cover band, Primal Fear a back with a 945 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,159 record called Code Read. I say that sort of lovingly because they do have 946 01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:42,400 some material. I really enjoy that band over the years. Bio Cancer this 947 01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:45,400 is a thrash metal band who their last track about in twenty fifteen. I 948 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,760 remember enjoying it and they're kind of forgot about them, and then they're back 949 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,360 with an album that's called Revengeance. So that's exactly what I need from a 950 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,199 band called Bio Cancer. And then again just a couple more things here from 951 01:01:55,199 --> 01:02:00,519 the extreme metal front Grave Pilgrim, the Bigotry of Purpose that's a very kind 952 01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:04,079 of you know, low fi if you like a kind of medievally style black 953 01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:07,880 metal playing and whatnot. And then an EP from Undergang, the Danish death 954 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,760 metal band, which is something in Danish. You can go and look that 955 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,800 up, but that is us caught up with the main stuff that's been sort 956 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,280 of of note of the last couple of weeks. Thanks very much for listening. 957 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,079 We'll be that with more Hyperblast next week, as well as everything that's 958 01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:23,000 going down over at the Patreon. Have a great week, to see you soon.