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Again, that's j asee Com and
Joe for the second time this week.

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I'm gonna refer to a tweet that
I made during the wild Card Games,

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coach tweeting Max Descano. Max said, referring to the Browns Texans game at

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the time, both teams are getting
into a ton of thirteen personnel for the

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purposes not running the ball, but
throwing the ball, specifically two tight ends

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like Brevin Jordan for example, and
I said tired best wide receiver trio in

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the league at the time, referring
to the Cincinnati Bengals inspired best a tight

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end trio in the league. A
potential opportunity this season. With t Higgins

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and Tyler Boyce free agency, there
for a significant personnel shift on offense.

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What are your high level thoughts hearing
this for the first time. I think

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it's correct. Number one. I
think that it's part of the ebbs and

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flows of offense versus defense in the
NFL when we three wide receivers became a

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thing and very popularized, he struggled
to get enough corners to get out there

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and cover them. And then now
everyone seems a heavy good nickel or slot

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corner or the good teams do at
least, and taking him off the field

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is key. So you go with
heavier tight ends or heavier offensive packages to

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get Mike Hilton off the field.
I go directly Texans versus Browns. The

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Browns have three very good corners that
they want to play man coverage with,

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and with a single high safety,
get one of those corners off the field.

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How put out, their extra tight
ends go heavy, right, So

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if they want that corner to still
stay on the field and play the run,

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he better be Mike Hilton playing the
run. And even Mike Hilton's five

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to eight point eight on his best
days, like it's still an issue.

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Even if he's a good run defender, So it's the ebbs and flows.

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Now you're going to see teams going
heavy, and I think we saw it

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all year. We talked about this
all season with teams that ran the ball,

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reuse play action, use their tight
ends, more condensed formations. They

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found ways to create explosive plays at
a higher rate. And we're looking at

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the Bengals, Well, you have
the three best receivers in the league.

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You should be able to do this
at the same level that these other teams

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do. When you're more stagnant,
when you're the same personnel grouping previous years

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ninety percent of the time this year, I think it was seventy eight percent.

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They were eleven personnel but was injured. So when you are stagnant,

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though, it's easier to defend and
it's easier to be more predictable. And

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I think that has plagued the Bengals
a little bit. So yeah, I

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think we're leading into that they have
an opportunity and to be different. Is

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that path tight end only? Do
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We talked about running back on yesterday's
episode, about having three different guys that

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can do a little bit of everything
versus mixing. Is this type of back

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and he's going to be on the
field for these plays. Travion Williams is

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a pass block or Chase Brown is
kind of our explosive guy that we throw

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screens to. Is it just tight
end and if so, what should fans

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be looking for at tight end or
what could the Bengals be looking for at

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tight end this offseason? No,
I do think it's all the positions,

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even wide receiver, and we talked. We mentioned getting faster and having a

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speed slot. I think having Charlie
Jones run a four to three running clear

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out routes is much better than Tyler
Boyd running a four to six running clear

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out routes. Right, you can
do different things off of that, so

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running back as well. The committee
approach having guys that can do more so

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you're not as predictable. Again,
we want to limit how predictable you are

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on offense. So if they get
to the point where they have three different

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guys that can do different things,
that helps the offensive line as well.

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Can you be a more physical run
team up fright at the point of attack?

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Can you also be more athletic and
do more things and get out on

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these screens, get out to the
wide zone, I get to these reach

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blocks that you need to hit to
seal off the edge. So yeah,

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it's all of these things that they've
struggled with are areas where they have almost

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neglected in the draft. You know, define the athletic offensive lineman, to

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find the correct running back to pair
with Joe Mixon, and maybe now supplant

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Joe Mixon, to find a high
level tight end talent tight end, and

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to get more speed on offense.
All of these things are still needs,

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but now more of a need maybe
in a sense city there's an opportunity as

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well with the changes that are inevitable. You have starting positions up on offense,

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and we're going to talk about defense
too. I don't think this is

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strictly on the offensive side of the
ball, but I wonder how much of

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that personnel approach is a product of
the guys that the Bengals prioritized drafting.

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Zach Taylor inherited a team with Tyler
Boyd and nothing a wide receiver. They

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draft Joe Burrow and T Higgins that
could be the core. But then Joe

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Burrow gets hurt and you're picking at
the top of the draft. Again,

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you have the opportunity to get a
very special talent in Jamar Chase, and

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so you're like, Okay, Jamar
Chase connection with Joe Burrow, really high

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level player. Well, I guess
we're going to do that too. And

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now you've got three wide receivers and
then you build your team around that while

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you have those guys. But I
wonder how much of it is we have

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those guys, so that's how we're
going to go, versus that's what they

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want to do, really do,
because we know, I think the last

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couple of years they wanted a tight
end in the draft. They didn't want

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to tight end in the draft enough
to spend an extra asset to move up

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and get one or to reach according
to what they felt their draft board was

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on a tight end. They didn't
force it. But I wonder how much

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of it is a product of the
kind of natural way the team came together

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versus a preference from this coaching stuff. Yeah, because you have to do

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both, right. If you if
you somehow found a fourth receiver that you

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drafted in the sixth round, let's
say let's say Yoshi was Puka Nakua as

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a rookie right, well, and
now I've got to try and have more

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four ride receiver sets because he's that
good that I let's get this guy in

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the field. So that is coaching. You use your best players to their

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strengths and make your team as good
as possible. They've done that. They've

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done exactly that on offense given what
they've had, given the dearth of tailent.

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I mean, they made Cijozama into
a highly paid tight end. Hayden

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Nurse got the same thing a year
later. They have found a way to

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say, hey, this is our
personnel grouping, this is how will be

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best suited on offense. Let's do
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I and this goes to the conversation
of tight end because I think people say,

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well, they won't use the tight
end, or they don't use the

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tight end. They threw one hundred
and fifteen balls to the worst tight end

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group in the league heading into last
year, and they may still be.

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I mean, there's no one on
the roster right now, so technically they

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are the worst tight end group in
league. But if that was a Sam

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Laporter or whoever, if they would
have drafted, if it is Brock Bauers

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at eighteen. You don't think they'll
use him. You don't think quickly he

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would be the number three option.
You don't think in a year when they

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lose Tea he would be the number
two option and the whole offense will look

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completely different and it'd be combo routes
between Brock Bauers and Jamar Chase. It

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would or else you're an inept coaching
staff, and I don't think they are.

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I think they use their players to
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Let's discuss that more on the coaches'
potential changes, what could happen,

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All right, Joe, let's stick
with the coaching element here because I

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think it's a big one, and
I think that there are people that just

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assume that this is how it's going
to be, and Joe Burrow is going

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to run empty and Zach Taylor is
going to want three receivers on the field

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all the time and not value tight
end because they haven't drafted one since Drew

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Sample. And that's it. It
doesn't feel like you feel that way.

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Why well, number one, they
did draft Drew Sample in round two,

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right, nobody told them to do
that. They did that had their own

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That was their own valuation of why
they've never drafted a tight end early.

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See right, that's probably what it
is. And then by the way,

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Drew Sample is a good player,
just throwing that out there. Not a

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second round player, but he ends
he's a good player. He's fun.

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That's part of a larger and different
discussion of once you get past that second

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round pick, that first four year
contract, All right, what is he

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and what does he do? Well, let's stop trying to make him do

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other things and let him be who
Drew sanm Piloe's was and he was this

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year and it was his best year. So again that's the team using players

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to their strengths. Right, talk
about Tanner Hudson. Hudson only lined up

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in line twenty six percent of the
time. Last year he was in the

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slot, he was out wide.
They used him like a big slot receiver,

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again to his strengths. So I
do believe if the right players are

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in there, they would adjust,
adjust a little bit. I do think

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this really caught flame, though,
this whole idea when Browning got in inserted

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right, and that first week it
was here is Browning into the Joe Burrow

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offense, and then for the next
month it was, oh, this is

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different, Oh here's some screens finally, Like I've clearly called them plenty of

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times the worst screen team in the
league for the last three years, and

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all of a sudden, they're getting
explosives at a crazy rate, and they're

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throwing screens at a high rate,
and then they're a lot more play action

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under center, all of these things
that people clamored for the whole time with

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Joe Burrow, because I mean,
that's how they've had a highly successful offense

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with Joe Burrow, running from empty
and doing what they do with Burrow with

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three wide receiver sets. But then
when it doesn't work for a couple of

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weeks, we demand change. But
there is some middle ground there they do

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need to merge both of these.
Get Burrow a little more easier throws and

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targets and explosive plays where he doesn't
have to carry the team and you can

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just dump it off the chase Brown
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That would be great and benefit everyone, And I think they did see a

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little bit of light at the end
of the tunnel. I think Joe Burrow

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even said it and his postseason press
conference saying like we did find a way

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to get some explosives, and he
mentioned that and how how beneficial it was

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his offense. I think he sees
it as well. You mentioned early in

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the season you were on the more
critical side of the Bengals coaching staff for

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not being more prepared for the limited
Joe Burrow. That being said, I

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personally fully believe that the offense we
saw with Jake Browning would have been very

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similar, with the key difference being
less empty, because brown and clearly not

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comfortable and empty the way Joe Burrows
comfortable and empty. Would have been the

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offense they would have run with Joe
Burrow if not for that injury this year,

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they only got a few healthy games
with him. You go back and

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look at those healthy games, it's
kind of hard to tell what it would

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have been for the remainder of the
season because they are such a week to

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week offense. I mean, you
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them make changes in the kinds of
running plays they called, the kinds of

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screens they called, the kind of
passing concepts they called. They tried to

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take advantage of weaknesses that they think
will work. That's why some weeks they've

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run a lot of early toss plays
and they don't work. So do you

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think that? Do you buy?
I guess when Zach Taylor says how the

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offense we ran with Jake wasn't two
different so different than the offense we ran

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with Joe, that's been overstated.
Do you believe it? I actually went

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back and looked at some of my
episodes and tweets from August down to camp,

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and that's what our expectations were,
right, and that you're not wrong.

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And I was like, yeah,
look at all the play action they're

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doing with Burrow. Now, Burrow
was hurt then, but I went and

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looked at even before he was hurt, you know, and then mini camps

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and stuff, and like every clip
we got was play action or some type

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of RPO him under center much more, and it was like, yeah,

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I do think this was it.
And clearly, when he had the calf

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issue, they could not have him
drop back from under center. It just

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was not an option. They went
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from shotgun for that very reason,
which means your playbook is now cut in

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half or you're trying to piece parts
of it together to get it to work,

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you know, try and get the
same concept we would have run from

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under center play action, but now
we're going to do it from shotgun and

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see if it works. And you
know, they had mixed results overall,

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so I do believe they were on
the right track this. This has never

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been a team. I get some
of these comments on Twitter a lot,

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and you guys probably do as well, from fans that say, well,

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Zach stubborn and he won't do this
and he won't change this, and it

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seems the exact opposite from my vantage
point. I think they do whatever works,

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and they don't care where they get
the idea from. They don't care

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where they get the concept from.
They steal stuff from around the league all

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the time. And they try and
implement it as best as they possibly can.

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I don't know. I feel like
with a healthy Burrow, the conversation

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for the offense is completely different from
a coaching standpoint. But on the other

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hand, Brian Kalen's getting all these
interviews again this year, and it's probably

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because what they did with Jake Browning. Yeah, I think that's part of

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it for sure. You go four
and three down the stretch, you go

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to Jacksonville, and you win,
and you stay in the hunt. You

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stay in the playoff race through week
seventeen. Let's discuss the defense a little

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bit though, because Leuen or Rumo, I think a lot of people thought

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he would coming into the year this
would be his last year and he would

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get a head coaching job. As
of the time we record this, it

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doesn't sound like any teams are interested
in interviewing him. Obviously, the defense

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took a step back from a change
standpoint. What changes could we see or

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potentially see as far as philosophy go
for this team, because obviously they're young

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in the secondary and everybody's been focused
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what changes could we see on defense? Well, I think we saw changes

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this year that they didn't want to
have. They they didn't expect and it's

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because and we undersold probably the loss
of the two veterans that safe probably well

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right, well, because I was
last episode in this episode just now,

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I'm talking about the opportunity to get
better, the opportunity to be different,

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and the optunity to be more versatile. They had all of that with the

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new safeties, didn't mean they were
better, and in fact, they probably

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limited them a little bit more than
they would like to be. You remember

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the good Anta Remo defenses in the
playoff run defenses were extremely multiple and variable,

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and they would show one thing pre
snap and they you watch it on

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tape, it'd be beautiful the way
they'd rotate into another coverage and it just

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Mahomes would just crap his pants looking
at it like, oh no, and

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now I've got to hold the ball
and run around, and they couldn't do

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that. They're very the data that
I look at that shows how often they

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change coveragees pre snap posting that this
year dropped completely tanked, and it's because

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I think of the safeties that typically
is a complete reflection of how well the

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safeties can pull that off, hold
their water a little bit longer and not

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show it pre snap, and then
rotate rate at the right timing, communicate

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it all between everyone. And instead
what we saw was a vanilla defense that

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had two blitz because they weren't confident
in getting pressure with just one guy and

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Trey Hendrickson, and then a lot
of explosive plays on the back half,

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largely from the safeties, but I
do think the corners had their hand involved

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in that too. We had some
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then DJ Turner down the stretch,
but largely I think the biggest change will

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be getting back to what they did
do when these guys become a little bit

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more seasons on the seasons on the
back half, and then adding talent to

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the defensive tackle room I think is
desperately needed. I think it aired out

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the linebackers in a lot of ways. I think it made them force them

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to bring a safety into the box
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weak against the run, and that
happens as it starts with your nose tackle

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and defensive tackle rooms. And because
it was such an issue. I mean,

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every time there was a big run, you could almost like look and

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squint your screen and be like,
yeah, that's sixty eight and that's two

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poems, Zach Carter. They're out
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And then you know until you get
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J Hill and DJ Reader and doing
their thing. But yeah, I think

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it's personnel first, and it's experienced
second. From a personnel change perspective or

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personal philosophy shifts, I don't I
agree with you that. I don't think

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the back half of the defense is
what I'm thinking about there. And I

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agree that they want to get back
to what they're doing. And you would

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hope that seasoning experience seeing things from
the NFL speed, the NFL level for

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Dax Hill and for Jordan Battle leads
to goods center justic communication going forward.

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But DJ Reader, Josh Tupo,
free agency, the need to rebuild that

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defensive tackle room. I wonder if
they and I don't expect changes here,

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but there is with that big shift
with DJ Reader, an opportunity to look

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at what they've got with some youth
besides Trey Hendrickson. With the changes,

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we're expecting a defensive tackle to kind
of shift their approach to trench play.

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Not necessarily something I anticipate, but
do you think that there's something they would

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be interested in there? I think
there there's both sides, So I think

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they would love to get another big
nose tackle that can hold his own in

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two gap and maybe take on two
blockers and keep these linebackers free, because

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I like Jermaine Pratt looks so much
better when he's not touched by a center

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or guard climbing up to the second
level like it's night and day. They

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want to look at previous years when
he graded poorly on PFF, and I

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look at the defensive tackles how they
graded those years, and I'm like,

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yeah, well that kind of coincides
with each other, and I think it

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could happen again. So I think
they would like a big nose tackle,

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But the big change would be getting
back to an Ogunjobe penetrating style defensive tackle

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that they can mix in there,
and I think that's a huge thing.

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Number one in terms of personnel and
type of players they draft is big there

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because they really haven't drafted that guy
in so long. I mean, the

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Marcus Hardison and the Zach Carter defensive
ends in college that you're going to kick

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inside and add fifteen pounds to just
has not worked. So I think they

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need to spread different waters there and
swim in different waters and figure out if

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that's the key to their issues.
Yeah, I think defensive tackle is going.

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It almost has to be a mix
of veteran free agents along with and

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it could be multiple along with drafting, and you leave that eighteenth eighteenth pick

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open to it. But at the
same time, you might not be able

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to get one in the first couple
of rounds. We know how the draft

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can go, and so you need
to be able to add to it in

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free agency. Do you want to
dive into positional spending, Jake? That

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was on the outlook, so up
to you. What do you think,

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Jake, Yeah, let's spend a
couple of minutes there just to talk about

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where that suggests the Bengals are going
to spend money. The Bengals are the

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only team in the NFL in twenty
twenty four to have a position group that

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there are zero dollars allocated to the
only team in the NFL to have any

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position group. And there's five position
groups that over the cap, ten position

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groups that over the cap. Does
the Bengals have zero dollars allocated to tight

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end? Obviously they're going to spend
money there. But Joe, when you

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look at the positional spending trends,
which is something I know you like to

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do, what Job said at you
is an opportunity to either change the way

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they're spending money to spend more money. Well, one of the big takeaways

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from the early offseason view of positional
spending. Yeah, and that's how we

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got to the point last year where
it was, hey, they'll probably draft

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a defensive end highly because they have
a lot of money tied up there.

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But they need to get better.
And when you have those two as a

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combination, well, the only way
to really get better and without adding a

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lot of money there is to spend
a draft pick. So if you look

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at that this year and heading into
twenty twenty four, so some of these

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numbers will change. Their twenty sixth
in total offensive spending for twenty twenty four,

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there seventeenth in total defensive spending.
Makes you feel like they could spend

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on the offensive side a little bit. But the tight end room, like

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you said, thirty second, they
could spend a lot there and they probably

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should and have to just to get
it above water. But the wide receiver

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position before tagging Tea is twenty fifth. If they tag them, it should

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put them around eleventh. So they're
still not crazy high in spending, and

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this is before other teams starts spending
there. They could probably get another veteran

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at that spot, and maybe that's
a we talked about this is who's the

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fourth receiver? Is it Trenton Irwin? Is it Yoshi? Is it?

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Who's it going to be? Next
season? They could go get a Josh

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Reynolds or something like that and dangle
Tea out there and see what happens if

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you can get a trade before the
before free agency, because let's think about

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it, if you or before the
draft, if you go out and don't

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spend on a wide receiver and then
you find a trade partner for Tea,

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well, now you're almost forced to
have to spend a premium pickout receiver,

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even though I would expect it.
You wouldn't want to be forced to do

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that. It's one of the things
we try to avoid doing. But looking

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at the defensive end room sixth highest
paid defensive endroom going into twenty twenty four,

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they just are banking on the development
of Miles Murphy and maybe this year

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we can get Joseph Osaie off the
milk carton and he can help out and

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do something that would be awesome.
And critically it bounce back from Sam Hubbard

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because he's a big chunk of that
edge spending and he was dealing with injury

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this year and that showed up a
little bit. He's another example you use

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where cash versus cap. The cap
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for like the Bengals, I don't
think they'll even consider cutting him. I

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know some people have thought about it, but it's I've thought about it,

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yeah, right, it's Cincinnati's owns
Sam Hubbard, and they use them for

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a lot of other promotional and fun
things in the area. I just don't

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I don't think they'd consider it when
the cash they're paying is just eight and

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some change rather than the ten and
a half cap hits. But at corner

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they're twenty first. At safety their
twenty second. I think they could add

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a veteran if we're talking a guy
that's a Nick Scott type signing three to

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five million dollars at each position.
I could see that in a lot of

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ways. They can't really spend picks
there because they spent so many picks at

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both positions. They could use a
little bit more veteran talent and money at

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those spots. Yeah, I think
that's that's the dilemma of do you add

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a safety or do you try to
get another DT right or another put that

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money towards because I'm all about I
think about defensive tackle similar to tight end,

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where it's like man, there's just
there's nothing, and I know you

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have at least BJ Hill, but
you also play multiple all the time,

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and so I think it's it's interesting, and they have a cap space and

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they do have certainly the assets and
resources to go after it. I think

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this is going to be an eventful
offseason. We can all agree there,

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I think no doubt, And part
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is reevaluating self scouting, what the
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are their cornerstones besides Joe Burrow and
Jamar Chase on this roster for the next

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five years. We'll get into those
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The Cincinnati Reds are talk about playoffs
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got to do some things to make
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that is still the case. However, things need to be done. We're

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