WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:09.400 And we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete, seventy LA Sports later this 2 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:14.199 hour Bigleby along with the High Coup. But now let's go out to David 3 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:19.280 Vassay. The Dodgers won big last night, but also Dave covered the Lakers 4 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:22.039 for years. He was there in the Shaq Kobe time. He knew of 5 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:25.920 Jerry West, knew Jerry West, so let's bring him on Dave. Good 6 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:33.200 afternoon. Hey guys. Yeah, kind of a bittersweet day because Jerry West 7 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.679 had such a great life and he meant so much to so many people, 8 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:41.920 but obviously still sad to lose him. And you know, I haven't talked 9 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:46.759 about this a lot if ever on the air, but each of the last 10 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:54.119 five years, Jerry West and I would have an annual dinner because his mutual 11 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:58.840 friend Doug Recoran would put it together and we would all go out to dinner 12 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:03.119 and we would go to Phil Trainey's in Long Beach. We would go to 13 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:08.480 the Dowray and Pico Rivera and those were some of my fondest memories of spending 14 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.319 time with Jerry West. You know, Dave, since you had that experience 15 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:18.120 and you shared that you went out on these dinners tell our listeners what that 16 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.879 was like, what he was like in that kind of setting. Well, 17 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:26.560 Number one, you know, he goes into a restaurant and people instantly recognize 18 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.959 him. And he's not one of these guys that if he's in the middle 19 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:34.120 of eating dinner, he's gonna brush somebody away. He would gladly take pictures, 20 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:40.159 sign autographs with anybody that came up to the booth. And he just 21 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.920 loved people. He loved the Laker fans, He loved the fans of Los 22 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:47.120 Angeles. They meant a lot to him. And I feel like that's why 23 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:52.359 Jerry West meant a lot to the city of Los Angeles, because when you 24 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.879 would see him among the people, he was one of the people. Even 25 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:00.400 though he was one of the greatest Lakers, in my opinion, the greatest 26 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:05.760 Laker considering his playing career, his executive career, and even when he coached, 27 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.520 despite him saying it was the worst experience of his life, he was 28 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:14.080 pretty good at that as well, which you rarely see from the great players. 29 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.919 So uh, he just he just meant so much to the city, 30 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:23.280 and he meant so much to the players that played on the Lakers and the 31 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.039 Grizzlies, the Warriors, and even the Clippers. He just left such a 32 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:31.400 big mark on the league. And you know, at the suggestion of anybody 33 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:37.280 to ever change the NBA logo, I mean, that's that's ridiculous. Nobody 34 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:43.280 did more for the game of basketball and certainly for the game of basketball in 35 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:50.840 Los Angeles than Jerry West. Yeah, no doubt, Dave. They oftentimes 36 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:55.120 when when you have a superstar like Jerry West or any one of these guys 37 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:00.800 that go from from being a player to go in to being even going to 38 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.680 be a coach or and then then maybe being an executive, oftentimes it doesn't 39 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.879 work because they those guys often especially at coaching level, because they want the 40 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:15.680 players to have their same mentality and they can't translate that to to the players, 41 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:20.240 and it just it oftentimes doesn't work out. And similar with the executive 42 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:23.520 side that they you know, they want players to believe or act the same 43 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:25.919 way they did as a player. But he was able to balance all of 44 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:30.360 that, Dave. And you've been around both you know, many different sports 45 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:34.439 and you've talked to many different you know, executives and you know baseball, 46 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:38.680 you know, head of operations or GMS from different teams and in different sports. 47 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:45.439 What's what separated him from that being so successful as a player then as 48 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:50.159 an executive, Yeah, well, Number one, Rodney. He was a 49 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.520 great evaluator of talent. When I would spend time with him, I would 50 00:03:53.560 --> 00:04:00.039 ask him about individual players and instantaneously he could tell you what that player's strengths 51 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:04.159 were, what their weaknesses were, and the player's character. That meant a 52 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:09.319 lot to him. And one other thing that really stands out about what made 53 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:15.319 Jerry West successful as an executive was something that he said publicly all the time 54 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:19.360 is he knew that if he did make a mistake on a trade or a 55 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:25.480 signing, he would he would admit that mistake and move on from it, 56 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.519 instead of a lot of gms that will be very stubborn and not want to 57 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:33.360 admit a mistake by keeping that player even though it's doing harm to the team. 58 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:39.639 And for me, that's what sticks out the most. There's one player 59 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.040 that sticks out the most in that regard, and Jerry West. You know, 60 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:47.639 the year that it was a shortened season, I believe that the Lakers 61 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:54.279 traded for a shooter by the name of George McLeod from the Dallas Mavericks and 62 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:58.040 Jerry West thought he was going to fit in. He did not fit in, 63 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.680 and instead of trying to insist to keep him on the roster, he 64 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.199 found a way to move him off the rosters. So those are the things 65 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:09.480 that really stick out to me about Jerry West, and you know, going 66 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.800 to those dinners with him. The one thing that would lighten up his eyes 67 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:19.079 when he would talk about his competitive golf matches against Michael Jordan. And he 68 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:25.399 loved bragging about beating Michael Jordan and golf and talking trash to Michael Jordan. 69 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:30.759 And even though Michael never played for any of Jerry's teams, they had a 70 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:36.759 really strong bond and Jerry West meant a lot to Michael Jordan. And Jerry 71 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:42.000 West loves spending time with Michael Jordan because of just who he was, what 72 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.079 he stood for, in the competitiveness that Jordan always had, as Jerry did 73 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.639 after he stopped playing, they were They're very alike and similar net ways where 74 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:58.040 this earlier Jerry was he was an assassin when he was a player, and 75 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.759 he carried that over after he playing days. But people that played against him 76 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.759 or know him from his playing days, they say the same things about him 77 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:10.079 as people talk about Michael Jordan. So you're you're absolutely right, man. 78 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:14.680 Hey, Dave, is you understand Kobe too? I'm sorry, David, 79 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.279 you understand it as you followed it. Why do you think the Lakers didn't 80 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:23.120 bring him back when they had the chance. That's a great question, Fred. 81 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:28.759 Certainly they would have been better with Jerry West than without him. I'm 82 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.560 not sure where the fracture was or why they did not choose to bring him 83 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.639 back. That's you know, I don't think that's the day for this, 84 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:42.680 but certainly it's a big question and a question a lot of Laker fans still 85 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:48.439 have. All Right, let's talk some Dodgers here. That was big last 86 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.759 night, fifteen to two. Do they have a little pep in their step 87 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:56.959 after what they did in New York? Yeah? I would say they've carried 88 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:01.519 that momentum and energy into Dodger Stadium, and that day off on Monday certainly 89 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:06.199 helped as well. Look, the Dodgers have been playing a lot better ever 90 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:12.360 since they snapped that five game losing streak after they got swept in Cincinnati. 91 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.920 The whole tone of this stretch of season changed. When they swept the Mets, 92 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:23.000 in that double header and since then they're nine to four ever since snapping 93 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:27.279 that five game losing streak. And they were a little sloppy in Pittsburgh, 94 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.160 but the offense has started to come alive starting with that second game in Pittsburgh. 95 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:35.279 And don't look now, Freddie Freeman is starting to get hot. He's 96 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:42.319 hitting three seventy five in nine June games. So that's big for the Dodgers 97 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:46.399 and scary for the rest of the league. You ain't lying, Freddy is 98 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:57.040 getting getting hot. They they acquire Bgo today and send Vargas down, are 99 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:03.000 we going to continue to possibly send see some there's some changes throughout the summer 100 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.120 leading up to the trade deadline, and even at the trade deadline, do 101 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:11.680 you foresee the Dodgers making making moves? I know Max Muntzi has had a 102 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:16.399 little setback, it's not gonna be back for a few weeks. But do 103 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.399 you see you know, major changes or just subtle changes for the Dodgers as 104 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:26.560 we approach the trade deadline? Now I believe well, number one, there's 105 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.920 going to be a lot more buyers than sellers this trade deadline, and that's 106 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:35.759 going to make it challenging to pull off significant moves. But there's two players 107 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.200 that can be had that certainly would help the Dodgers up the middle, and 108 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:45.240 that's Luis Robert of the Chicago White Sox, power hitting center fielder. A 109 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:50.080 lot of injury history there, but the Dodgers seem to manage players' health better 110 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:56.039 than most teams. And then Bo Bashett of the Toronto Blue Jays. He 111 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:00.000 even though their GM has come out publicly and said they don't want to trade 112 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:05.159 him, from what I understand, they would be open to listening to offers 113 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.679 for him. That doesn't mean a trait's going to happen, but certainly those 114 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.440 are the two names that have been out there and obviously can help. Dave. 115 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:18.360 You sent out a tweet about Bigio and his offense and the feeling was 116 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.240 the Dodgers can fix him. Do you think the Dodgers can correct the few 117 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:28.480 things people are seeing in his swing? Yeah? I do for it, 118 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:39.200 I feel like, you know, we lose them, Yeah, I think 119 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.600 we did. All right, Tom's going to try to get him back, 120 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:48.879 because to me, that's the biggest question here, given that the big deals, 121 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:54.120 aside from the signing of Otani trading for Freddy, I mean MOOKI uh 122 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.519 signing Freddie and Tiasca Hernandez. I think this is the most impactful move the 123 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:05.600 Dodgers years. Calvin Bigio, Okay, go ahead again, say what you 124 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.080 just said, say what you just said? All right, Well you heard 125 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:13.840 me day. I believe this to be true. I heard it. I 126 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:20.080 heard it Fred Right now, the Dodgers are trying to uh just figure out 127 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:26.000 some of their bench pieces and how they fit. And uh, Cavin Vigio, 128 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.559 they took a flyer on him. They didn't give up anything. So 129 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.600 this is another one of those by loos sell High And honestly, you know, 130 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.759 I felt bad for Miguel Vargus. They called him up and barely played 131 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:43.440 on. I could not and many others could not understand why the Dodgers continued 132 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.960 to give Chris Taylor more at bats than Miguel Vargas. You know, I 133 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.080 love Chris Taylor, but a lot of people that have played this game believe 134 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:56.559 that if he hasn't figured it out by now and he's still doing the same 135 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.360 thing, it's gonna be hard for him to fix it. So I'm happy 136 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.879 that Miguel Vargus is going to go back down and get regular at bats, 137 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:11.399 and I hope he gets an opportunity somewhere in major League Baseball because his swing 138 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.360 looked a lot more like the Vargas we heard of than we saw last year. 139 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:20.600 But you dave you yourself admitted that Chris Taylor makes a lot of money. 140 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.840 They're going to have to give him opportunities. That's what it comes down 141 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:30.200 to. He's owed twenty two million dollars the remainder of this year and next 142 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.759 year combined, so you know they're going to They're not just going to cut 143 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.799 ties with him. They're going to give him every opportunity. But I feel 144 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:43.279 like the closer we get to July thirtieth, if he doesn't figure it out, 145 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.840 the Dodgers are going to be at a crossroads with their roster. Yeah, 146 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:50.039 well what could they do? What are the choices? You're very tough, 147 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.399 Well, there's they can include him in a trade. They could. 148 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.559 You know, Aaron Hicks of the Yankees was owed more than Chris Taylor when 149 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:03.480 they cut them loose last year, So it's not unheard of. And uh, 150 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.840 let's be honest, Money's not an object for the Dodgers. It's about 151 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.799 trying to win the World Series now, here's the caveat to all that. 152 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.399 Chris Taylor can look abysmal like he has the first three months of this season, 153 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.440 but in the postseason he seems to come up big. And I'm sure 154 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.399 that's in the back of Andrew Friedman's mind. All right, Hey Dave, 155 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:31.919 Hey, hey Dave, real quick, I know you got a run grumblings 156 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.080 and talk. I'm assuming it's because Corey Seeger is in town and I did. 157 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.360 I appreciated the tribute that they gave to him, and he still got 158 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:45.080 the love. Here about you know, Mookie sustainability at shortstop and is this 159 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.759 a long term play? What are your thoughts on that? Are they fully 160 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.960 committed to to Mookie being the short stop for not only you know, this 161 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.799 season. I know it's got to play out, but in their minds are 162 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:01.879 they looking as this being a long term uh situation from Mookie at short Yeah, 163 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.960 that's for this year, Rodney. It's all contingent if they can upgrade, 164 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.879 If they can upgrade at shortstop at the trade deadline, get a real 165 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:16.159 shortstop like a Bouvashett. If they can't, then Mooki is going to play 166 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:22.159 shortstop the rest of the year and moving forward, beyond this year. You 167 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.440 know, I don't see that, Rodney. Not a lot of guys play 168 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:35.919 shortstop beyond age thirty one at a high level position when they hit thirty thirty 169 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:41.399 one thirty two, So I don't have moving forward. All right, Dave, 170 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.679 appreciate the time. Thanks for coming on. Okay, guys, thanks 171 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.440 all right. Tonight the Dodgers take on the Texas Rangers, first pitch at 172 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.159 seven. Listen to every play of every Dodger game at AM five to seventy 173 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.399 LA Sports Live up in the Gallpin Motors Broadcast Booth and stream all games in 174 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:01.559 HD and the iHeartRadio app. The keyword is AM five to seventy A sports 175 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.159 all right. Vick will be along, he will weigh in the high coup 176 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:18.759 and more memories of Jerry West. Come on, let's keep it moving. 177 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:28.279 On a Wednesday, a hop day, remembering Jerry West. Oh, Freddy, 178 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:33.679 Everything just keeps popping in my mind every time I've ran into him, 179 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:39.279 seen him, talk to him. Everything I see now is a picture of 180 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.799 Jerry West. Can't look at your can't look at my phone, can't swip 181 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:48.120 change the channel without seeing something that Jerry West. He's such an iconic figure 182 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:52.399 in this town. Man, it really is. Yeah, he was one 183 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:56.919 of the people that were larger than life. And we said it before. 184 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:03.080 Look, he's probably the most impactful person in the history of the Lakers. 185 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.600 I'd say, the only other person with a kind of impact. Well, 186 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:07.679 no, that wouldn't even be fair because he didn't play. I was gonna 187 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:16.200 say Jerry Buss. But Jerry Buss didn't play. Jerry West played and was 188 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.600 the guy, the mastermind in the front office. And if you look at 189 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:24.000 it like that, and I suggest this, suggested this earlier, and I 190 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.919 guess you could argue the point Jerry West might be the most impactful individual in 191 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:33.000 NBA history because not only did he play, he went to nine championships one 192 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.320 to one. I believe it was an All Star every year of his career. 193 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.879 Third guy to twenty five thousand points in league history. So he was 194 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:50.080 the only one, the only one with the MVP on a team that lost 195 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.639 the finals. Right, think about that that never happened. That would never 196 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:58.720 happen. It could never happen. The other thing would happen. Then it 197 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:00.559 certainly would never happen. Now that that that is never going to get me 198 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:07.360 broken, right, And then he won as an executive. So who had 199 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:12.240 more impact on the game than Jerry West because he did it on the floor 200 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:17.960 as a player in the front office as an executive. I don't know of 201 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.080 anyone. I guess you could make the argument that that Magic and Larry Bird 202 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:29.039 saved the league. I guess you could say that David Stern had the vision 203 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.759 to grow it to where it is. You could say that Michael Jordan obviously 204 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:41.360 was incredible. Magic incredible, I mean Mack and Mike. You think about 205 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.120 Michael, he took the torchs that Magic and Bird. I'd say Magic and 206 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.919 Bird were more impactful than Magic, I mean than Michael in this in the 207 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.480 sense that the NBA was dying and it all came at the right time with 208 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:59.960 David Stern coming in and Magic and Bird every all the excitement around them made 209 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.359 people watched the NBA and to turn into something that was huge in the eighties 210 00:17:03.400 --> 00:17:07.599 with Showtime and the and the rivalry with Boston in LA. It was the 211 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:12.599 perfect storm and it worked. And yes, you know, but Michael took 212 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:18.960 the torch for those guys who had already set the tone. But but Michael 213 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.799 did get global along with David stern. He took the he took the NBA 214 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.160 global with the with the Olympics and the Dream Team and all that. But 215 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:34.599 again going back to UH to Jerry West, how how comforting it must have 216 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:41.079 been for doctor Jerry Bust to know that he had he had Jerry Jerry West 217 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.640 running things for him and that I could sit back and I can relax, 218 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.519 I can enjoy myself, I can enjoy my Lakers. I can enjoy being 219 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:56.559 the owner because I got the best executive on the planet. I'm sure it 220 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:04.880 was very comforting. Yes, and you know this, Jerry Buss did let 221 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:12.440 Jerry West operate operate basketball operations. Yes, it was on Jerry West to 222 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:18.440 make it go. And Jerry would tell you he had an owner that was 223 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.119 very supportive. So to build that kind of trust. Because if Jerry West 224 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.680 went to Jerry Buss and said something, we need something, we need to 225 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:33.519 try something, I'm not sure if he ever told him no. Yeah, 226 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.480 I don't think so either, because he knew he had his best interest at 227 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:41.599 heart and what he had done leading up to that at work, and there 228 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.400 was a tremendous amount of trust and there was a bond with those two like 229 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:51.720 like no other like you rarely see today and sports with the owner and the 230 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:56.640 GM and I don't know if we see it again because it's so volatile, 231 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.799 and you know, owners or not out trying to be more in the forefront 232 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.240 and want to want to be seen and you know, want to have their 233 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:10.960 own shows and radios and podcasts and things like that and want to be front 234 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:14.519 and center. I don't know if we see that again. But that trust 235 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.160 and bond that they had together was amazing. All right, let's bring on 236 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.839 Vic now and get his h his take on it. The Daily High Coup 237 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.559 It two and we welcome on Vic the brick and Vic, good afternoon to 238 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:38.799 you. Well, let's face it, everybody, Jerry West. There is 239 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:48.160 no Laker mystique without the logo. And the whole city I know is so 240 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.880 sad today because we love Jerry. We've loved him for decades upon decades upon 241 00:19:52.960 --> 00:20:00.960 decades as a player, as an executive, the unpowerlel passon, I mean, 242 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:06.799 fourteen years a Laker and Fred you mentioned it, an All Star every 243 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:12.759 year, led the Lakers for the one ring in the historic nineteen seventy two 244 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:18.680 season, A relentless baller, I mean Jerry could score forty any night. 245 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:26.279 He averaged twenty seven in the regular season, then raised his game in the 246 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:32.839 playoffs like no other. He still has a record for forty point consecutive games 247 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:38.119 in a playoff game. I mean everyone talks about raising their game in the 248 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:44.920 playoffs. Well, Jerry West did that. Vic. Did you have interactions 249 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:52.119 with him at all? Oh? Absolutely, But first I just wanted to 250 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.279 say what a furious competitor he was, you know, on the court and 251 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:04.480 of course off the court he epitomized tenacious d On the other end, I 252 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:11.319 mean, Jerry was in your face defensively, he was so tough. What 253 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:15.400 was he like when you bick? What was he like like your interactions with 254 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:19.200 him? I mean, what can you tell us about your encounters with with 255 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:26.039 with Jerry West? The logo? Well, I remember I had the great 256 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.400 opportunity to hang out with with Jerry for about an hour before a tea time 257 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:37.200 and an l a PD celebrity golf tournament, maybe ten ten years ago, 258 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:45.680 and we spoke deeply of life. He was so open and so wonderful. 259 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.839 He was a man. She was a prince. He really was a prince 260 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.799 of a man. But at that time, you know, he was going 261 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.440 through the you know, the turmoil with the Lakers on the back end of 262 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:03.119 his Laker career, and you know, he just was very very uh sad 263 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:11.640 and disenchanted with the with the way things were going and we're ending. Yeah, 264 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:18.400 and that was rough. It was so rough, so rough because he 265 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.279 loved the Lakers so much. He loved the city so much, loved Laker 266 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:30.880 fans, unparalleled love for Laker fans. And he was he was going through, 267 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:40.640 you know, changes, but he he had such dignity and respect. 268 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.079 I mean, he would he would he would never you know, taint the 269 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.160 Laker name ever. But you know, he he he really had. It 270 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:52.079 was very candid with me, you know how how upset he was, you 271 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:59.799 know, in that moment. And of course Jerry is going on. You 272 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:07.680 know, he rebuilt the Memphis Grizzlies into a playoff a franchise. Who knew 273 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:15.200 and some say he orchestrated the Palgasol trade back to the Lakers. We'll never 274 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.680 know if he did. I believe he did. I thought he has his 275 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:25.359 fingerprints all over the Palagasol trade to the Lakers. Because his love for the 276 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:33.359 Lakers was so intense and winning championships with Golden State and cultivating the front office 277 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:37.319 of the Los Angeles Clippers. There's many, many accomplishments, but you know, 278 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.480 on and north of court, no doubt for the most impactful of all 279 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:49.079 Lakers in what he generated when he produced. What do you think about the 280 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:56.440 game in general? Well, he's a logo Yeah, basketball genius. I've 281 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:00.880 called him that, Adam Silver, the NBA commissioners called him at his His 282 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:07.559 knowledge of the game is incredible. It's so off the hook. And he's 283 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:12.920 even in that interview with you guys when he was talking about cob and you 284 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:18.400 asked him, Fred, how did you know that Cobe is going to develop 285 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.880 be you know, developed into one of the greatest players of all time? 286 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.680 He said, I wasn't. I wasn't the only one. There were others 287 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:33.079 who knew of Kobe's greatness, you know, looming. He was just you 288 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.839 know, so so lack of lack of ego. I think that was his 289 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:45.079 West Virginia background where to West Virginia University. Yeah, but when he brought 290 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:52.359 in he said, no ego, humilody that he had for being that's that 291 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:59.440 type of superstar and his humility almost like he was embarrassed to talk about himself. 292 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:07.079 His brilliance is you know, can we'll could will resonate forever in terms 293 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:12.319 of basketball, not just on the court. He was a basketball savant off 294 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:18.160 the court as well. But if you watch highlights of the great Jerry West 295 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.759 when he was playing for the Lakers, I mean he was, he was 296 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.319 the greatest two way player, you know, on on the court. He 297 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.599 was unbelievable. I mean as a young Brickett growing up in New Yorker, 298 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:34.279 you know, watching the Knicks, how he would destroy the Knicks. And 299 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.799 of course his hatred of the Celtics was so beautiful. Do he hated the 300 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.440 Celtics. Of course lost to the Celtics. Somebody somebody is you know, 301 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.079 you know, part of the generational beautiful hate of the of the of the 302 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:52.319 Celtics as part of Jerry West, because Jerry hated them. But Freddy, 303 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.400 yeah, you also touched upon it. He was when he brought Kobe in 304 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.839 shack, he was ex exhausted, Yeah, totally exhaust Because I spoke to 305 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:06.640 Jerry as well in that time and space. I remember the bell Air Country 306 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:10.160 Club, you know, when he was golfing and we were talking there. 307 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:15.279 I said Jerry, how how did you manage this herculean task of bringing in 308 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.799 you know, Shaq and Kobe. He says, Vic, I'm exhausted. 309 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:23.599 It was it was an insane amount of work and pressure. But he did 310 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.720 it, and he you know, he brought the dynasty. You know, 311 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.920 he was the architect of showtime as well. I mean, these are times 312 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:37.200 that it's that are so precious, you know, to all sports fans in 313 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:42.920 Los Angeles. It was you know, Jerry created that. And as he 314 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.400 said during the interview, you know, bringing in Shaq and Kobe is like 315 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:53.200 having two Christmases. Yeah, I mean he understood the impact that Kobe and 316 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:57.759 Shaq would make, you know, as no other. And he worked relentlessly 317 00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:06.920 and tirelessly. You have to bring Cob and Shack to Los Angeles and that 318 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:15.119 that will be you know, the blueprint of the dynasty, and Jerry's you 319 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:22.200 know, presence in Los Angeles is forever. I mean, we love Jerry 320 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:30.160 West. It was just such a tremendous, tremendous presence for the Laker organization, 321 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:34.799 you know, on on talking about representing a franchise. I mean, 322 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:45.880 Jerry was the epitome of class and dignity, Yeah, he was a mensch. 323 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:52.920 He was a prince. So you know, it's it's just a very 324 00:27:52.000 --> 00:28:00.240 somber day for the city. But we remember the great Jerry West. Yes, 325 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.559 and he could golf man. He was a great He was an excellent 326 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:10.039 golfer. Yeah, he wanted to win it everything, Vic, everything, 327 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.359 Well, that was his attitude. I mean, how else do you succeed 328 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.400 in such a you know, volatile world of the uh of the NBA. 329 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.079 And you have to be a top of a game. You have to be 330 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:26.240 relentless, you have to know the talent and then you you've got to get 331 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.480 the most of the talent, help them thrive, you know. And he 332 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.799 helped Colb, you know, Cob and Shock thrive in a very tough environment. 333 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:41.880 Vic. Uh, do you have anything on the Dodgers today? What 334 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.839 a night, What a night? Power to the people, five Homers. 335 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:57.200 Yeah all right, well, uh we'll have the continue continuation of Vic's Dodger 336 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:11.200 take and the haikup. Come on, let's keep this thing moving. Roddy 337 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:25.799 p Fred Rogan, Vic the brick Jacobs, Yeah, ya ya. The 338 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:33.720 Dodgers fifteen runs, y'all. Last night was so beautiful to watch. Five 339 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:40.000 Homers. Oh, Tawni Freddie went back to back Will Smith, America's catcher, 340 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:45.759 the three run shot in the first The way of tay tay Oscar Hernandez, 341 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:55.680 number seventeen, Who tay Oscar Hernandez, The way of Ta, Yes, 342 00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:00.079 the way of Ta. How about Jason Heywood's home run, I mean 343 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.839 he sent it to Howland raised hot Chicken on Broadway. Man, that was 344 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:12.000 he did. Ended up in Chinatown somewhere. Four home runs in the supercharged 345 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:21.079 sixth inning, and my beloved Brian Hugo Sakamono were watching the game listening on 346 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.960 A five seven the ELI Sports. So she had one word for that sixth 347 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:34.680 inning, remarkable, destroyed the words Ampia Texas remarkable. Four home is a 348 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:41.680 one inning, Yeah, and give it up for the big Maple James Paxton. 349 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:51.759 Beautiful bounce back start. We've gotta Walker buelah Esther notie. I think 350 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:56.839 it's a seventh start since coming back from surgery. I mean he missed two 351 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.400 years. You could feel him though. He's getting back into the roof. 352 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:07.200 He's gonna get it. So Walker Buller tonight Mrango Casino Dodgers on deck at 353 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:15.000 six with Tim Cats first pitch from Paxton seven ish right here a five seventy 354 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:22.599 LA Sports and Fellas you saw the update on Joey Chestnut, the beef brew 355 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:29.440 ha ha is getting ugly from New York, the sixteen time champ of the 356 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:36.240 National Hot Dog Eating Contest sponsored by Nathan's every July fourth, from Brooklyn. 357 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:44.720 Yes, Joey was getting a one point two million dollar deal from this Vagan 358 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:49.680 meat company. And Nathan says, Joey, where's the beef man? As 359 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.799 Joey said, I feel gutted? Well, it's a beef brew ha ha. 360 00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.880 Because the promoter says Chestnut was not banned from the event. He receives 361 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:06.400 hundreds of thousands of dollars in talent fees to compete. But once Chestnut went 362 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.200 to the direct Nathan's competitor, it was audios. But the latest is Chestnuts 363 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.599 and Kolbai Aishi going at it. They're gonna do a one on one Netflix 364 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:24.799 competition September second, going hot dog for hot dog. Well, uh, 365 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:29.799 how long is that show? Gonna be? Five minutes live on Netflix Fred 366 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.160 Live? I understand, but I mean, how can you build an hour 367 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:37.759 around that? Two guys eating? Oh my goodness, how can you build 368 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:45.559 it. They're not gonna eat consistently for one hour. Fred, It's like 369 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.720 the super Bowl, you build it up or the predet You know, the 370 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:51.440 race last ninety seconds and there's nine hours of pregame. That's all. That's 371 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.839 how it works. Look at the greatest two minutes in sports at Kentucky Derby. 372 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:58.319 It's like, you know, hours and hours of build up. Okay, 373 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.079 but then I watched it, like, uh, Pacific time three fifty 374 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:08.039 six. I don't watch the whole build up and and and but you people 375 00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:14.319 don't often watch the build up to the super Bowl. That's twelve hours he's 376 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.519 wait for the game, but there are people that do. Fred. I 377 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:20.920 want to know the backstory. How did this vegan, how did this vegan 378 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:27.160 enter this competition, what made Chestnut decide to go vegan, What was the 379 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.160 story behind that? And who is this company's trying to infiltrate such a great 380 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.359 tradition. All of those things we all we all want to know, Fred. 381 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.880 And of course the rivalry with Kobyashi. Kobyashi is winless. He has 382 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:49.759 never beaten Joey chestnutt in an eating competition is zero for three. So this 383 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:55.480 is a day of reckoning for Kobayashi. All right, there's a lot of 384 00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.359 storylines Forredd. You can build it up and I'll tell you what Kobyashi needs 385 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:08.079 from you. Oh well, this high coup. Fred is going to go 386 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:19.840 out to the Great Jerry West right on this day with the city remembers the 387 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:25.079 Great West, Wednesday, June the seventeenth. This hikup for you. It's 388 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.760 all about Jerry June to twelve, Jerry West, Basketball, God among men, 389 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:36.920 enough hoop, deity, the logo, the knowledge, the intensity, 390 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:43.079 the sacred forty four. We love you, Jerry, I'm feeling you. 391 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:55.039 They're very solid. Vic. Now work from our friend Jacob. If you 392 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.159 were recently injured in an accident, but I haven't called our friend Jacob yet, 393 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.760 what are you waiting for? Not taking action may cost your money? 394 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.519 What does that mean? Let's say you were injured in a car accident a 395 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.000 few months ago. You thought the pain in your back would go away, 396 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:08.519 so you never went to see a doctor. But now a few months later, 397 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.960 it's getting worse each week. 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