WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.560 So the other day, my mother in law, she's gonna have us over 2 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:06.240 for some lobster and I say to myself, I'm really in the mood for 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:09.560 a good lobster roll, a good hot buttered lobster roll. So on the 4 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:14.960 way there, I grabbed some really nice hot dog buns butter the accoutra Ma. 5 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:18.839 We go over there. I grill the buns, butter the buns up, 6 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:23.039 real nice crack the lobsters perfectly, take out all the garbage meat, 7 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:27.760 build my lobster roll, take a bite into it, and I realize I'm 8 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:31.480 not really into lobster anymore. So your lobster was a phase for you, 9 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.960 is what you're saying. I don't know. Was it a thirty three year 10 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:39.960 phase? So I've never been a quote unquote lobster guy. I'll enjoy a 11 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:44.000 lobster roll here and there. I don't seek lobster though, that's for sure. 12 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:48.799 Am I lobster out? I maybe maybe is that a possibility to be 13 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:53.600 lobster out. Lobster in and of itself is not the best. There's some 14 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.399 people that absolutely love it. I prefer like crab. I think is it 15 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:02.000 was me? I was lobster through and through I would get three to six 16 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:04.640 pound lobsters on my birthday every year, and I think this past year maybe 17 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.920 I just went two lobster heavy. I don't know if that made me a 18 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.000 little sick, but I was sick the next day. Okay, am I 19 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.599 just over lobsters? You might be, you might be. Hey, taste 20 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:17.760 buds changed, that's what they say. You know what I like now is 21 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.599 lemon out of nowhere as I got older, lemon. So here's a question 22 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:25.120 for you. Yeah, I like lemon flavored things in general. You know, 23 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:30.640 drinks, sweets, Do you like like lemon flavored? Like baked goods? 24 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.159 They're okay, I'm saying more like if I'm having a salmon lemon on 25 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.680 there. Oh yeah, that's like goes hand in hand pretty much, unless 26 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.920 unless you have already like a pretty good glaze on there that the acid isn't 27 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:46.159 going to penetrate. Yeah, I like, I like a little lemon on 28 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.400 my seafeace. So what do you think I should just take off the rest 29 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:51.640 of the summer from the lobster and just check back in next year. Maybe 30 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:53.000 try at the end of the summer. End of the summers. You know 31 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.280 else is did a big thing here too, in New England. We are 32 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:02.000 in Massachusetts. Lobster per pound is outrageous, which doesn't make sense considering we're, 33 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:06.840 like, I don't know, seven miles from a real live lobster in 34 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:08.159 the ocean. But do you know this, though, is that if you 35 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:13.439 pay fifty five dollars you can get a lobster license. Just buy some traps 36 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.039 and you can have up to ten traps at once. Yeah, but then 37 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:17.039 you gotta check them. You can check them, but then you have as 38 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.960 many lobsters as you want, which does not help me with my issue of 39 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.759 not being in a lobster right now. You're gotta know where to place them, 40 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:25.199 and then also go and check him and both those things and put him 41 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:30.280 in the river. I'm sure you'll get something, all right, Yeah, 42 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:49.240 good point one three? Yeah, just three, King of Queen Street, 43 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:57.879 enter Goo and I'm Mac and we are the Mac and Goo Program. We 44 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:04.879 bring you friendship. Yep, and today we're talking about uh inter species friendship? 45 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.000 Are we gonna save that for spoilers? No? I mean the whole 46 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:12.439 the show is about scrolls on Earth. I think that's I'm saying more about 47 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:19.120 like banging scrolls. Oh oh well, so here. Here's here's my take 48 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.759 on the scrolls. First of all, I don't like women who are bald, 49 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.319 so I wouldn't want to a bald scroll. But like green Gomera all 50 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:30.039 in on, that doesn't bother me. But the ears of the scrolls bothers 51 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.159 them as well. Okay, so my take on this is like, as 52 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:38.479 long as the scroll doesn't want to look like the scroll while you're doing it, 53 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:42.120 like if the scroll is into role playing, if the scroll is into 54 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.919 like you know, like, they'll look like whoever you want them to look 55 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.479 like. Sure, that's not bad. No, that's that is certainly a 56 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:53.639 perk. But then the natural follow up there is do the where you're putting 57 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:58.919 where he puts in the Paintis that doesn't feel does it feel like? I 58 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:02.639 guess that's the question too, Like can they make everything right as one would 59 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:06.319 assume? Yeah, Like say, if one night you say to yourself, 60 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:13.599 I want a really big ass, get me please turn into Megan the Stallion 61 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:18.199 play give me a really big ass right now? That does raise a good 62 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:23.959 question. Speaking of ask you, I have been very confused, and this 63 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:28.079 was a point that other people brought up that now is bothersome to me? 64 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:33.279 When the scrolls change forms, Yes, why do the clothes also change? 65 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:38.519 Well, that's like a lot of things, I guess, although the MCU 66 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:42.279 has been better about that, like when the Hulk would turn back into Bruce 67 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.879 Banner, he would then be nude. Sometimes, why would they just say, 68 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:51.120 oh, the scrolls also have this like alien microfiber could change things. 69 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.959 That just bothers the shit out of me. Goo. Yeah, and the 70 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:59.519 folks at home today we were talking about Secret Invasion. I'm glad that we 71 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:01.519 got this sex with the Scrolls out of the way because that was really something 72 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.120 that I've been thinking about. We'll be coming back, Okay, we'll get 73 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:06.920 back to it. Okay, there'll be more. I'll be spending most of 74 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:12.759 this podcast talking about that. We're talking about Secret Evasion, a Disney Plus 75 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:16.399 television miniseries, and I think that essentially means it's just gonna be a one 76 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:20.839 off, no second season, but who knows. I hope so oh it 77 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:25.920 was a spoiler alert there the market teas Yeah, all right. I actually 78 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:30.040 think where this season leaves off, a second season would almost have to be 79 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.600 well. I would say that if you had more to tell, you could 80 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:35.319 have put it into this season. Because they didn't do enough with the six 81 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:39.800 episodes that they had. I almost feel like they actually needed a couple more 82 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:43.600 episodes. So I guess we're feeling differently about this. Dude. This is 83 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:47.759 the fortieth four zero, so maybe we can do an official hot dog skill 84 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:51.800 coming up, maybe in a month or so when we have nothing else to 85 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:57.040 talk about. Fortieth entry into the MCU. This is the eighth series. 86 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.839 There have been thirty two movies. This is a TV fourteen action adventure in 87 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:06.839 drama. I would sub about adventure and sub in thriller more than more of 88 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:12.759 a thriller in drama than anything erotic. I'd put erotic in there well, 89 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.519 considering what we're talking about. Yes, six episodes running a total of two 90 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:21.160 hundred and sixty nine minutes. Nice, that's approximately about forty five minutes each, 91 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.720 although I think all three of the final episodes were under forty minutes, 92 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.480 and it did feel a little quick towards the end. The first three felt 93 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.360 longer, the last three felt shorter. Goo. Yes, really interesting discussion 94 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:40.560 here amongst what the critics and the audience feels about this show. On Rotten 95 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:44.639 Tomatoes, this has a fifty seven percent from the critics sixty percent from the 96 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.839 audience. Now, that audience score of sixty percent makes it second worst by 97 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:53.000 a lot, although the bottom there is thirty two percent. Sholk Attorney it 98 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:56.279 law. If you go by the audience scores, goo, this is the 99 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.439 seventh best show and the sixth above it best and the worst. I'll send 100 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.920 best show. I'm sorry them in property seventh seventh best show. Yeah, 101 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:08.399 so second to worst correct, okay, and the sixth above it. I 102 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:12.279 have only a ten point percentage spread there from ninety percent to eighty percent. 103 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.879 Loki, Hawkeye, Moonnight one Division, falcon And went to Soldier and Miss 104 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.920 Marvel in that order. Yeah, the critics skew give it a sixty three 105 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:24.360 on Metacritic. That makes it the worst MCUs show according to the critics, 106 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.120 a little bit below Hawkeye at sixty six, which I don't quite understand that. 107 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:31.160 The spread here on Metacritic, the top is seventy eight, Miss Marvel 108 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:35.759 seventy seven, one Division seventy four. Loki also falcon And went to Soldier 109 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:41.240 sixty nine, Moonnight Nice she holds sixty seven, Hawkeye sixty six, sixty 110 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:45.120 three, So the critics have sort of lumped them all together, or almost 111 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.519 two tiers according to the critics. I actually feel more like the critics, 112 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.600 or at least the way they're kind of ranking these shows, more than I 113 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.360 do the audience. Okay, And I know that one of the big issues 114 00:07:55.439 --> 00:08:00.160 with the audience is that this was called Secret Invasion, and it did not 115 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.759 come close to the comic or it did not pay off on a lot of 116 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.279 the stuff that the comic has in it. So um a few days ago, 117 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.560 West of Change My Mind podcast and I did a little bit of a 118 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:16.279 series finale preview and we talked a little bit about that, And I fucking 119 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:22.519 hate these people if you're one of those persons or people's folks that say the 120 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.920 comic books did this and we never got there. The comic books are out 121 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.680 the window at this point. We're certainly drawing upon them and taking ideas, 122 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:35.039 but everything that happens in the MCU now has to be within context of the 123 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.000 other thirty nine. Now, others, I would say, just call the 124 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:43.399 show Nick Fury and the scrolls and dum title dummies could be upset about it, 125 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.000 that's fine. The dummies could be there weren't enough avengers. And I 126 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.559 do agree with her on that there were not enough Avengers. I agree with 127 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.879 them. Well again, uh, it's all within the context of the MCU, 128 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.000 So yes, secret Invasion in the comic books is a larger, grander 129 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.000 scale sort story within the end. See you, they purposefully made it a 130 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:05.840 Nick Fury story, and that was clear months ago, years ago, two 131 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.080 years ago when they shot this, that was clear. So that's just an 132 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.240 absolute bullshit criticism. Now, if you want to argue what was in the 133 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.519 show wasn't interesting, fine, well that's my main argument. But yeah, 134 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.399 it was never gonna be what the comic book was. That's a it's a 135 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.279 it's null and void. I don't think that's an appropriate criticism of the show. 136 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:28.879 That's just it's dumb. But again, I thought this show baseline was 137 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:31.840 it's hard to say a high floor, but that's sort of what I'm getting 138 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.080 at here. The acting is so good in this show that, like, 139 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:41.919 I enjoyed every episode. Now, the finale wasn't particularly good. I thought 140 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.200 setup was pretty good, but I thought because of the acting, like there 141 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.399 was almost no way the show was gonna fail. Yeah, I mean, 142 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.919 I like Sam Jackson enough, I love his Nick Fury enough that I was 143 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:56.960 never gonna hate this show. Yeah, but having said that, I was 144 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.840 pretty bored all that though. Yeah, we haven't hated any of the mc 145 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.799 shows. I mean the closest to hating, I would say would be Moonnight, 146 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.320 just for the lack of connectivity, lack of connective tissue to the rest 147 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:18.000 of the world. The Soldier was I was just about to get there. 148 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:24.960 And then also Captain America Boys, although very captivating in the first four episodes, 149 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.399 the last two episodes were terrible. Yeah. The left turn that that 150 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:33.799 series took what really was bothered me, bothered the shit out of me more 151 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.039 so than the finale does here. Also because the finale here sets up some 152 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.759 some potential things and there are some possibilities. And then also in Moonight. 153 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.759 So if first looking at these three, because these are my bottom three shows 154 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:48.759 here in the MCU, I would just say that Moonnight has the best single 155 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.879 episode out of the three shows, but has the lowest floor. And this 156 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.480 one probably is the most consistent out of those three. I think I have 157 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.559 this fifth out of the eight okay, smacked down up in the middle. 158 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:01.600 I mean, I have, you know, somewhere from six to eight, 159 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.360 so we're not that far off. Yeah, And I think the top two 160 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.360 are head and shoulders above the rest. The next two are head and shoulders 161 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.519 above this. Granted, your second in my second are different, but I 162 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:13.200 do agree that yeah, two are better than you, but we have it's 163 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.080 tiered similarly, yes, which is what I'm getting at here, Like the 164 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.200 medical critics scores all being within fifteen points of each other is more so what 165 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:26.799 I'm feeling than the audience being so far away on this one and she Hulk. 166 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.039 It's just and we've talked about this a little bit. I think you 167 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.720 have more MCU fatigue than I do, and I think that's starting to show 168 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.519 and might show here in this conversation. I'm still generallyly liking most of this. 169 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.080 I just am also expecting a bigger Like if we get a big payoff 170 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.679 at the end of this phase, I'll be perfectly happy with this. And 171 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:50.840 I've lowered my expectations. I've already told you that with aunt Man heading and 172 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:52.919 naant Man, I'm like, I'm expecting something a lot lower than what we've 173 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:56.519 been getting and we did, but I accept it. I'm fine with all 174 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.159 of this right now. I am, like you said, though, I'm 175 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.399 waiting for something big to happen. Yeah, and I think the end of 176 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.080 the show has a bit of a to be continued on it as well. 177 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:11.559 This show is created and written by Kyle Bradstreet. The only thing you'd really 178 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.799 know him from was Mister Robot. He was a producer and writer on Mister 179 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.320 Robot, which a lot of people really enjoyed. I sort of dipped out 180 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.799 early in season two because I hate what's his face there, Aleck front of 181 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.480 the show. He's got something upcoming called Alice. Alice isn't dead, So 182 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.720 if you've if you liked this series a lot, maybe check that out. 183 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:37.559 This show is directed an executive produced by Ali Ali Salim Ali Salem he or 184 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.240 she. I didn't check what the gender was. Maybe they has done a 185 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.840 lot of recent television directing as well as some writing, but you wouldn't know 186 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:50.399 them from really anything at all. Their relative unknown Goose synopsis. Fury and 187 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:56.679 Talos try to stop the Scrolls who have infiltrated the highest spheres of the Marvel 188 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.279 Universe. It's a little overselling. That's a huge joe Ver Cell. Yeah, 189 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.360 Earth is as a substitute for Marvel Universe there. Yeah, I would 190 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.200 say that's a big oversell though the highest spheres of the Earth. Yeah, 191 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.200 it does feel like a lot of the show is way more low stakes than 192 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.279 what we were expecting, And maybe it's an expectations thing again, who knows. 193 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.279 But I also feel like what this whole show is centered around, and 194 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.639 that DNA machine and whatnot, that could get to the highest level of the 195 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.840 Marvel universe. So there's a little bit of a almost like a tease in 196 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:33.840 that synopsis. Do this show stars? Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury, Amelia 197 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.559 Clark as Gaya. That's Talos's Daughtau. Don Chito Here as Rhodie. They 198 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.799 have him credited as Roadie, which I think is bizarre. Kingsley, Ben 199 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.440 Adair as Gravic, He's the main villain. Killian Scott as Pagan. He's 200 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.799 Gravic's right hand man. Ben Mendelssohn as Talos. Olivia Coleman say that, 201 00:13:52.000 --> 00:14:00.519 I said, Olivia Coleman as Sonia Fallsworth. Charlayne Woodard as Priscilla slash Varro 202 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:05.919 that's Fury's wife. Dermott mulroney as President Ritzon. Christopher McDonald that's right Shooter 203 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:11.320 McGavin in here is Chris Stearns, I really enjoyed the like the News Network 204 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:15.279 parody stuff that was that was well done. Kolbe Smellers is in here briefly 205 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:18.080 as Maria Hill as is Martin Freeman as agent Evan Ross. And then we 206 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.080 also have Nisha Leah as Rava, who will talk about when we get into 207 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:28.080 spoilers. Good to me, this show is a pretty solid setup the whole 208 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:31.960 way through five episodes through and West and I talked about that a bit a 209 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.240 few days ago. However, a pretty anti climactic finale for me. Yeah, 210 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.360 it just felt a little lame, a little neat, little too neat. 211 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.399 Well, it has the same issue that a lot of the other MCU 212 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:48.519 shows have of like you have this different type of show, like this was 213 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.720 at least different than what we've seen in the other MCU shows, but we 214 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.200 get in the final episode the same ze finish of not the greatest CGI. 215 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.480 I'm not blaming the animators, it's just what the budget of the show is 216 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.159 better than some of the other ones. Yes, yeah, but you get 217 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:09.600 this battle in the sky, you get the lights and the flashes and everything 218 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.440 else, which it's just stuff that we've seen before. Yeah, I think, 219 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.279 and we'll talk about that again in spoilers. I think they thought that 220 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:20.279 was going to be cooler than it actually was. But in concept sounds pretty 221 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.679 cool. Yes, for sure. I'm sure when it was storyboarded it looked 222 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:28.200 awesome. All that negativity about the finale though, however, they have sort 223 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:33.960 of left some interesting possibilities on the table here Goo and like several threads there 224 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.559 that I want to tug on, and I'm like, oh, this good 225 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.360 lead to this, or this good lead to that. So they sort of 226 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:45.080 did a good job and I don't want to compare it to this. Maybe 227 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.080 you will. What is the name of the Dark World? How Dark World 228 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.279 wasn't great, but it ended up being meaningful. I think down the line, 229 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.480 the show's gonna be if this sets up Secret Wars, Like if this 230 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.399 is just a stepping stone that when you get into Secret Wars you don't need 231 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.080 all this like backstory and everything else, so you can just jump right into 232 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:10.120 it, I guess that it's worth it. I'm thinking other stuff, but 233 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:14.120 again we'll wait for spoilers for that. Also, again, the acting was 234 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:18.519 fantastic in Here to Me. There was good enough intrigue throughout the first five 235 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.159 episodes to keep you invested, keep you looking forward to the finale. It 236 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.080 just didn't deliver in that finale, but again, it might do that going 237 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.039 forward. Also, no post credit at the end of this series I found 238 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:36.679 very frustrating, especially with the next property coming up directly linked to this. 239 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.799 Somewhat linked. Somewhat linked, I mean Nick Fury and scrolls are in the 240 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.360 movie. It's pretty linked. I don't know if there's gonna be much about 241 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.720 scrolls, but yes, look at the trailers. There's a lot of scrolls 242 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.200 in there. Yeah, I'm not saying that scrolls are a part of it. 243 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:53.960 Yeah, and maybe a character from this should be a part of it 244 00:16:55.120 --> 00:17:00.720 because of what she can do now right Again, possibility is that a saying? 245 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:04.039 Is that a jingle somewhere? I'm gonna have you pulled that from the 246 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.519 board. We'll get to it at the bottom here. Maybe you'll pick up 247 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.400 on it. Possibly been a tease. I'll tell you, wait, wait 248 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.920 ten minutes or five whatever we get there's okay, gauntlet, Okay, the 249 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:21.160 gauntlet here mac first one up here is fun factor, and I think there 250 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:25.839 is not enough. I think there is. There's two or three moments in 251 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:29.000 here where I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool, but then immediately felt 252 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:33.480 bored right after. I think that's a fair criticism. I oddly and I 253 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.759 criticized you for doing this on your short lived podcast with Wes. I actually 254 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:44.960 had fun looking at day my name Heisenberg, which say the name of my 255 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.079 podcast, which was I don't even remember what it was called MCU at home. 256 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.400 Well that was like the general one, and then we flipped it every 257 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:55.839 single time. What was the name of my Loki podcast? I don't remember? 258 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:59.720 Get help, okay, yeah, what was the name of my wand 259 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.720 of in podcast? One of them was really long. I remember that that 260 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.640 was on purpose. Oh it was what if we talked about Marvel's what if? 261 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.079 Would you listen? That's the one And the answer was for most people 262 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:18.440 was no. I really did have fun looking up stuff that about the episode. 263 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.200 After the episode, I found myself watching all the new rock Star videos 264 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:26.240 the moment they came out. Yeah, and this is oddly the first series 265 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:30.200 of the eight that has made me do that a little bit though, because 266 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:33.319 I got confused in some of the episodes. Well whereas for me, like 267 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.680 you mentioned, I had that really successful podcast and I was doing that after 268 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.200 every single one and it just felt like homework after a while, and that's 269 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.680 what this felt like. It didn't feel like homework for me because it did 270 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.559 fill in some gaps, so it felt necessary. Okay, well, I'm 271 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.400 just I'm I'm overlooking up stuff immediately after episodes. Mac. The next one 272 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:56.920 up here is you're satis fact or how satisfied were you by the show? 273 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:02.720 And much like you mentioned, anti climactic ending did not help. Um, 274 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.240 there's two or three things in here that yes, you do want answers for 275 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:10.440 still, so that kind of leaves some intrigue but not super satisfying. Yeah, 276 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.440 pretty unsatisfying conclusion. Ultimately, that's which which you're probably sort of what 277 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.119 this means going forward from the six episodes itself. I think a lot of 278 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.599 people will get to remember the unsatisfying conclusion. I really want to say the 279 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.200 thing that it was very satisfying for me, but I'm going to hold it 280 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:29.240 off for the anti sport anti spoilers. No, that's not the word spoil 281 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:37.400 the actual spot we're in the anti spoilers borometer, very very boring. Um. 282 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.839 I don't agree about very but again I'm not gonna argue. There was 283 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.599 a lot of talkie talkie and not a lot of punchy punchy the first half 284 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.519 of the series. I can't say I was bored, but those first two 285 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:53.440 three episodes certainly could have used more action. But there was also some very 286 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:59.920 intriguing dialogue in there. Yeah, problem is that intriguing dialogue needed better payoff 287 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:04.720 to it, I guess ultimately, but this wasn't a great show for like 288 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:08.160 checking your phone because if you missed a minute a dialogue at Actually, but 289 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:14.920 I have so many games on my phone, obviously a jousting game Halloween. 290 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.519 Well, this show wayne over time for you. I guess, just needing 291 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.799 to go back and check on some Easter eggs for future stuff. Otherwise I 292 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:30.279 don't need it. Yeah, Like, rewatchability is not high here, However, 293 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.240 I think we may be now this isn't a guaranteed. We may be 294 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:41.279 looking back at this series for massive ramifications going forward. Question for you, 295 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:47.839 and think about it very very shortly. Maybe milliseconds rewatchability? Is this the 296 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:53.519 lowest in the MCU so far? It might be right, maybe, maybe 297 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:59.160 it's in the discussion for sure, top five at least. Well, yeah, 298 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:03.000 there's only eight shows, so well, I'm saying the entire MCU oh, 299 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:07.400 oh no, I think it's it's above eternal. I think it's a 300 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.599 round top five though for rewatchability, not even intrigue while watching the show, 301 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:15.960 I'll have to look. I'll look, I'll look at a bit. I 302 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:18.559 said, you get one millisecond, give me a yes or no answer? 303 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:23.920 Where do you eat the moon? If it was again, I think they 304 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:30.000 did a good enough job probably making this show matter going forward. Equator better 305 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:36.759 or worse than twenty seventeen's Aquaman on the line above the line? I'm below 306 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:41.279 the line. I think the quality of acting in here like undoubtedly puts it 307 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:45.839 well does but Aquaman is more fun. Redheads? Am I right? This 308 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:51.480 is above the equator max credit Union? Who are you tossing credit at? 309 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:55.400 Because you know I thought was actually pretty good and I haven't been the biggest 310 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:57.519 fan of her in the past. Is Amelia Clark? Oh, so you 311 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:00.240 didn't love her in Thrones on? Everyone liked her. I liked her in 312 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.880 Thrones. You didn't like her in Terminator. I did not watch that. 313 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:08.359 No, that wasn't very good? Yeah, good enough. I thought Amelia 314 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:11.920 clarket Live in Coleman were obviously great, but we expected them to be great. 315 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:15.519 That's why they got cast in here in the first place. I absolutely 316 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:21.319 loved Kingsley ben Adair, who I had never seen prior to this, and 317 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:26.160 oddly enough he was in Barbie, which just came out recently, so good 318 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:27.839 month for him. I just never seen him before, and I thought he 319 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.640 was as good as anyone in this show. Yeah, and I thought like 320 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:34.400 especially leading up to the final episode, I thought he was solid. I 321 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:38.240 thought he was really good, especially in his little monologue at the end. 322 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.160 I thought that was a very good job by him. I thought he was 323 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.519 like legit scary as a villain. He was a very good villain, one 324 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.680 of the better villains we've seen recently. Pants, Tan City, Excite, 325 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:56.000 bike Mania. What got you going from this show? The possibilities going forward 326 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:02.680 a bit of a cop out, But Campbell's Chicken noodle abilities what a payoff? 327 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.440 What ain't payoff? Pull it? Put it on for us guys on 328 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:15.160 the board. Please flip the cassette over to side B to content the adventure 329 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.920 Chicken. I did not see that coming, and it's in the notes. 330 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:22.799 It's in the notes, and I still didn't see it coming. I don't 331 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:27.079 know how to read down there. Um, this show was devoid of a 332 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:32.640 Pats tent unless you love the Final Battle all that much or or I yeah, 333 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:37.200 no really just the final Battle was a possible pants tent. But the 334 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:42.480 pants tent is gonna be hopefully a payoff for what this show was fighting over. 335 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:47.400 What everyone wanted is gonna be the real pants tent. Here. Before 336 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.920 we get to the hot Dogs, let me ask you about the AI theme 337 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:55.480 song opening credits thing. Did that upset you? I watched it once, 338 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.079 I said, I liked the songs, and the imagery is kind of cool. 339 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.559 I skip every time for every show, like even Peacemaker, which everyone 340 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.799 loved, they skipped after the first one. All right, Well to the 341 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.559 Mac and Goop party. We rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system, 342 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:12.519 and Mac, I'm not sure how much I enjoyed this show. I 343 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:17.519 think you could have tightened it up a little bit, and maybe had. 344 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.359 And this is something that Disney needs to look at in general, or Marvel 345 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:23.039 needs to look at in general. I know that they're trying to, you 346 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:27.319 know, consolidate their stuff and not just put out a bunch of shows or 347 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:32.519 a bunch of movies in a year, But is it worth it maybe doing 348 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:36.079 made for TV specials, like having this as like a two and a half 349 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:40.559 hour, two hour made for TV special where then you're filling in to get 350 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.000 to these movies, because I'm not sure we needed three hours of this. 351 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.519 Yeah, I actually almost am on the opposite end of the spectrum there. 352 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.960 I felt like there should have been more meat on the bone in here, 353 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:55.480 and it felt like there probably was at one point. And again, they 354 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.480 shot this two years ago, so that obviously went for some rewrites and some 355 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.000 reshoots, so it almost feels like there was more to be done there, 356 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.240 especially at the end, and they chopped it off. Well you mentioned two 357 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:08.880 years ago. I also feel like I would have liked this more if it 358 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.440 came out two years ago. I think it would have been it would have 359 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:17.079 been more connected to the stories that we were just with. This feels like 360 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:21.319 it's so far apart from what we've seen over the last couple of years. 361 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.000 Yeah, but to your point, if you do think it's going to connect 362 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.759 to the marvels that much, then that's kind of null and void. Nothing 363 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:30.240 in here really felt new or fresh to me, and that is an issue 364 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.480 with a lot of the MCU stuff right now. But if you can do 365 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.519 it great, it's not as big of a deal. I don't think anything 366 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.319 in here is done as well as say like a Guardians three, where like 367 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.039 that might not have been the freshest movie, but everything in it is done 368 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.160 so well that you're still going to enjoy it. The acting is very good. 369 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.039 I do like the acting, Like you said, I like Clark, 370 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:55.079 I like Jackson, I like Ben a Deer. And the story is solid 371 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:59.400 enough, but not enough payoff, Like you got a little cliffhanger at the 372 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.640 end of every episode, and even the payoff to all those cliffhangers aren't that 373 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:06.759 good. Didn't really hold my attention as well as it should have. I'm 374 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:11.440 looking around a twenty four hot dog. Oh harsh, it's a little hard. 375 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.920 That is that the lowest score you've given to the eight shows? It 376 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.680 is, but in retrospect, I should have given some lower scores on some 377 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.720 other shows. Okay, all right, fair enough. So you're gonna have 378 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.880 to go in at some point and reorder your your MCU. Don't tell me 379 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:34.680 what to do. Qu yes again. The finale to this, which secret 380 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:41.400 evasion, espionage thrilling stuff, was just way too neat, not messy, 381 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.440 enough for or something that was supposed to be kind of messy and again anti 382 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:49.680 climatic. They really hit you over the head with Nick Fury's love life, 383 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.720 which especially at the end, but I thought that was interesting. In like 384 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.680 episode three, one of the best scenes in the whole series was when him 385 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.519 and his wife are sitting at the kitchen. To great spoilers, he's married. 386 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:04.920 It's not a spoiler. I thought he was a free wheeling, swinging 387 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:11.279 bachelor to need at the end. However, I do like this potential witch 388 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.359 hunt direction they're going in, so that's a positive. That's one of the 389 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.640 positive one of the threads I'd like to pull on there. I'm very interested 390 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.119 in a couple of characters and what they're gonna do going forward, Sonia, 391 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.359 Fallsworth and Gaya. I'm very intrigued by by where they're gonna lead us. 392 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:33.960 I'm also very interested in this whole machine DNA technology stuff and where that plays 393 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:38.400 out. West and I talked about this going into the finale here Red Health 394 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:45.079 possibilities, Fantastic Four possibilities. If you remember, many Fantastic Four get their 395 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.079 powers when they're working on something in it explodes, right, So maybe they're 396 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.880 working on a machine like this, it explodes until they get their powers. 397 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:57.839 I thought it was a good show with great acting and a pretty lackluster finale, 398 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:03.440 so it isn't a balance and it makes it hard to score. I 399 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.359 got this like thirty one, thirty two, Hot Dogs, twenty ninth overall 400 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.440 in the MCU, right in that Ultron Multiverse of Madness range. And I 401 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.519 guess that's kind of fitting because though all three had better promise and sort of 402 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.240 didn't quite meet the bar that we thought or we had hoped or expectations, 403 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.440 maybe we're too high. And just below this is She Hulk and Far from 404 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.960 Home. Okay, So if we're looking at shows, I would have that 405 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.279 in the bottom three. I would have this in the bottom three, with 406 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:36.279 Moonnight and with Captain America Boys. I've already said Moonnight one great individual episode, 407 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.359 like one that if you just want to watch one episode of a Disney 408 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.039 Plus show, go watch that. It's amazing. But then like Cat Boys 409 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.039 was really captivating. Like I said earlier, first four episodes and then one 410 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:51.680 ZMO left, a lot of the intrigue left, and then this show it's 411 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.160 consistent throughout and it gives you these little nuggets but then they just don't pay 412 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.920 off on those nuggets. And also everything that is meant to be a surprise 413 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.799 in this show isn't. Yes and no. There were a couple nice little 414 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.279 like oh okay, but they also led the left the bread crumbs out there 415 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.880 for you to sort of figure it out. Middle tier Miss Marvel and She 416 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.799 Helk. I like those better than these shows, and then the top one. 417 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:17.680 I still Loki doesn't get enough credit. Loki is such a good show, 418 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.279 and we mentioned how like a lot of these shows have very similar finales. 419 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.799 Obviously, She Hulk is different, they went into a completely different direction, 420 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.000 but the other ones are all like, let's have a big Kiki Kiki 421 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.119 smashy smashy party, and Loki is just discourse. Uh yeah, Loki was 422 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:38.200 the best payoff. Yeah. Well, I also really really liked Borderline, 423 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.799 loved Hawkeye. Those are my top two. I like Hawkeye. Hawky is 424 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.079 my third. I like WandaVision more the first eight episodes of WandaVision Actually sorry, 425 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.359 episodes three through eight of Wan Division are awesome to me. I like 426 00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.960 the second half of Wan Division. You like the first half of Wandaion. 427 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.079 I like the middle don't say the second half whatever, Yeah to me, 428 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:02.359 Top two Loki, Hawkeye, middle two one division and Miss Marvel in its 429 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.839 own tier. And then I think I have this clearly above the bottom three, 430 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.359 which would be she help moon Night and Falcon and went to Soldier, 431 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.079 but not that far above those Top two Falcon and went to Soldier definitely eighth 432 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:19.279 for me. Shall we spoil? Let's get spoilers. Spoilers, spoilers, 433 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:25.880 and Mac before you say anything, is Gaya two op at this point? 434 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.319 Ah, she is. I almost feel like there's gonna have to be taking 435 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.119 away from yeah, a reversal of some powers. Were taking these back until 436 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.440 we need to give them back to you to conclude a movie. There's got 437 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.839 to be something going. And also the fact has the powers of like twenty 438 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.640 but not only that she has the powers, but she knows how to use 439 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.880 all of the powers, and she knows like what everyone's special abilities are, 440 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:56.039 whereas m Benn a deer there really only knew to use the Strong Avengers the 441 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.359 strong character's powers, whereas she knew to tap into like Mantis being able to 442 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:06.039 put someone to sleep or ghost which I thought ghost was actually a really cool 443 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.279 part of it. But I'm like those aren't very well known things. How 444 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.079 much studying has she done? How does she know all of these abilities? 445 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.000 H Yeah, it's it's clear, I think because she's been around the Avengers 446 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.799 in this I know. But so say if but it's clear that she was 447 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:25.519 like smarter in that fac But also say if she didn't know how to use 448 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.839 the abilities of all of them, and like there were still more on the 449 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:33.519 board that you could tap into later on, like those like specialty people that 450 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.119 would at least add like, well, how is she going to use mantis 451 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:40.680 in the future, whereas she used you know, sleep powder early on? 452 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.880 She used agility early on when most other people are just doing flamethrower. Yeah, 453 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.720 that's a Pokemon reference for you people at home. Goo. I'm gonna 454 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.759 quickly run through here what we learned during this series before the finale. Then 455 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.400 we'll get into more finale stuff. If you use poison early on, mac 456 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.640 the other came on, they'll you know, slowly lose HP. I like 457 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.880 sleep powder over poison. I said sleep powder earlier. I didn't want to 458 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.799 say sleep powder twice. Tell me another one. What's another one? Paralyzed 459 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.519 powder? Oh, paralyze is good too. Yeah, but sometimes they could 460 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.480 still attack, which is absolute horse shit. So I like it when the 461 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:22.400 other one is paralyzed with fear. Yeah, there you go. Everett Ross 462 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:24.839 was a scroll. We find out in the first episode, and obviously at 463 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.119 the end there he gets released, but we don't know so his timeline I'm 464 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.680 very confused about, Like, I have no idea when he was taken in. 465 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.240 It had to have been post the first Black Panther, yes, because 466 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.680 he gets shot in that. Yeah, and he didn't revert to Scrull, 467 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.680 so sometime after Black Panther. And we don't know exactly one because the other 468 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:47.599 one obvious, this is one that everyone's talking about all over the internet is 469 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.599 don Cheatles Road Chody if you will. No, it's not Chody, it's 470 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.000 Grody. Sorry, we call him Chody if we want, I suppose, 471 00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:00.640 but uh with him because of the fact that he was still not able to 472 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:06.160 walk after he gets out of his pod, or he doesn't have his you 473 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.240 know, braces on his legs whatever it is. Yeah, he's still in 474 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:13.880 a hospital gown. Yes, yes, And that is at the end of 475 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:19.000 Civil War, which then makes you question, has this been a scroll since 476 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:24.400 Civil War? Which would make sense for some parts of Endgame and Infinity War, 477 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.200 because we kind of mentioned this during our Endgame podcast, but he was 478 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.319 very mean to Thor and Thor's weight gain. Am I wrong? No, 479 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.680 you're right, You're right about that. So him being in a hospital gown. 480 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:43.400 You have to read into the fact that he became a scroll shortly after 481 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:49.000 Civil War and that means go several things. And first of all, what's 482 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.880 tell us talks about how Fury got to where he got to in Shield. 483 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.960 Because of the scrolls, you sort of have to think that someone we met 484 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.079 in Phase one early on was probably a scroll. So we find out road 485 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:05.720 he wasn't until after Civil War. I still think there's probably a big player 486 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.960 out there that's a scrib I certainly hope, so, because if it's just 487 00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:10.079 him, that's kind of lazy, right, If it's just Roady, the 488 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:14.599 one that we all thought was a scroll, I agree. But if Rody 489 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:19.000 was swapped out post Civil War, that means at the end of this series, 490 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.119 he doesn't know about the blip and he doesn't know that Tony Starkstead. 491 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:30.119 Yeah, So that's gonna be a really interesting thing for that character going forward 492 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.880 and actually makes him a more compelling kid, you know. What that should 493 00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.760 have been, the post credit that would have been, that would have been, 494 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.079 that might have saved it a little bit from me if because don Cheatle. 495 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.079 I know that we mock the character on the show a lot, but 496 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:47.199 don Cheatles a great actor. That would have been a great post credit, 497 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:52.800 a chance for him to actually act and not just be a fucking lifeless idiot, 498 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.360 which he mostly is through most of the MC this. He was terrible 499 00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.960 in this. And I'm not saying I'm not no, no, I'm I'm 500 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.679 not saying him like at like acting in the show. I'm saying his character 501 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:10.519 sucked. It's a really bad guy. Yeah, his character subbed Maria Hill 502 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.760 gets killed here by Gravic in the first episode. Actually, sorry, question 503 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:22.000 for back to uh scrotl there scrotium. Do you think that so if he 504 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:28.760 in fact was a scroll during Infinity War Endgame, that when he showed up 505 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.800 to work the first day Cheatle showed up to work, someone just went up 506 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.800 to and whispered, by the way, you're a scroll And he looked around 507 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.079 like wait, what so he had to act a little bit different. Do 508 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.800 you think he knew ahead of time that he was a scrull? No way 509 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:44.199 no chance he knew until this series, but he did act a little bit 510 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.559 different. Yeah, but also people can change. People can change. I 511 00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.400 used to be a piece of shit. That's true. He used to be 512 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.800 a piece of shit. Uh good. We find out the Scrolls are living 513 00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:59.840 in the abandoned Chernobyl area of Russia and have renamed it Scrollos, which I 514 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.039 leave is the name of their home planet, a bit like a New Asgard 515 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.920 type of I'm sorry. One more thing with Scrody. I'm I saw a 516 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.159 point. We can still get to Scrody going forward. I saw a point 517 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:14.920 online which makes complete sense too, is that at the beginning of endgame, 518 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.840 Scrody goes up to kill Fanos and he sees this big open planet, you 519 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.599 know why, a very livable planet, and he never reports that back to 520 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:29.320 the other Scrolls of like we can take this planet? Was Rodi off earth? 521 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.320 Yeah? Oh well yeah, right when they went to go kill him. 522 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.119 Okay, yeah, yeah, which is a good point. I think 523 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.840 that's a pretty good point. It would be hard to transport all of them 524 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:43.159 there just hop on his back. He's a war machine. Uh quote we 525 00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:46.679 uh what I mentioned a little bit already. We learn in a pretty riveting 526 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:52.920 conversation between Tylos and Fury that they're now at least a million scrolls living on 527 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:57.519 Earth and they all came post Splip, which coincided with Fury being off Earth, 528 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.719 so that's interesting. And again at the end of this finale, we 529 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.000 see that basement with Fallsworth and Gaya with there has to be thousands of humans 530 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.599 that have been replaced by Sculls. And that's the thing I was talking about 531 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.880 that felt like there was a little more to that final scene that they just 532 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.039 didn't show us and they just cut it off. There's no post credit there, 533 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.480 so that's gonna mean something going. But they started this pre blip. 534 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.480 It's just that they went harder post blip correct like they've Yeah, maybe there 535 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.119 was hundreds pre blip something like that, maybe a thousand, but they obviously 536 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.000 took over Earth when there was almost no human I almost wish that they started 537 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.159 this like two thousand, like they were here for five years and they were 538 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.119 like, you know what, Fury is not getting this done, Let's start 539 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.840 our revolt. And then they saw a Shrek and they're like, now is 540 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.960 our time, dude. Gravick becoming the leader of the Sculls that whole thing 541 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:53.360 that was decent. I was pretty intrigued by Fallsworth throughout this whole series because 542 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.719 you could tell she was obviously working against Gravick, but she wasn't exactly aligned 543 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:04.440 with Fury. And now after the series finale, she's definitely not aligned with 544 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.920 Fury. She's aligned with Gaya, and it seems like she's probably gonna have 545 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.599 something to do with Valentina Consuelo, Right, it's probably gonna be. I 546 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.079 think it's a different team. There are just so many different teams. I'm 547 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:20.480 in secret wars. Maybe the big secret is no one knows what team they're 548 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.000 on anymore. But there's so many teams at this point. That's how it 549 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.599 should be. It shouldn't be just one massive superhero team. There should be 550 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.559 factions of superheroes sort of aligned but maybe going against each other throughout the world. 551 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.239 So it's kind of like Invincible, where there is, you know, 552 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.239 just so many different teams of like A squads, B squads. Yeah, 553 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.679 a little a little bit like that, because we're so deep in at this 554 00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:46.000 point, and obviously with Valentina Consueler and the Thunderbolts coming up, and now 555 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:52.519 with Fallsworth and Guya in possession of that machine and that technology. I think 556 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:58.280 it could mean that's how we get Red Hulk. Yeah, or again, 557 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.559 this is a little further down the line. I think the more I think 558 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.480 about it, the more it makes sense. I think this is how they 559 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:09.440 introduced the Fantastic Fours with this machine. But also so she's almost like Superman 560 00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:14.440 to the point of do you need a team around her? Because she has 561 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.719 all the powers, like Captain Marvel, doesn't even really need a team around 562 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.880 her. She could pretty much if Thanos didn't have the Powerstone there, she 563 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.400 would have taken Thanos out by herself. Yeah. I again, I'm not 564 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.440 too worried about Gaya going forward. She obviously is very overpowered at the moment, 565 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.039 but I feel like something's going to happen there. I'm just I'm not 566 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:36.599 spending too much brain. Guya, where did all your powers go? I 567 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.800 took a really big ship after that, and a lot of them just left 568 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:45.400 my body. There are a couple of coup moments during the season when we 569 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.960 first st Extremists and you know, Gravic using some of the powers. Okay, 570 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.480 so thank you for bringing that back up. That was the first time 571 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.760 where I'm like, oh, that's very cool. When he used the grood 572 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.440 arm yeah, I was like, okay, let's see where this goes. 573 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.559 And then he marks his right hand man with the crude arm um. It 574 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.360 was a cool moment seeing that guy. Up until the finale, no one 575 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.639 knew besides her that she was a super Scroll, so she was saving that 576 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.119 in the whole two Fury thing in the finale was a nice little like too 577 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:16.719 fast, too fury correct, sort of saw it coming, but that was 578 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:21.440 a nice little thing. The other thing I'm wondering here, and this is 579 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:27.239 a little complicated by my Fantastic four theory, why would Gravic set that machine 580 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.960 off with Fury within it as well? Because do you think that they've run 581 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:36.400 tests before and humans couldn't withstand taking on those powers, So he wasn't worried 582 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.159 about that there's a lot of radiation in it. He was trying to, 583 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:40.840 you know, give him a nice slow death. So it might take someone 584 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:45.679 as strong as a Scroll, I guess, to sort of take on believe, 585 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.119 yeah, something like that. And maybe being outside of that machine maybe 586 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.320 when it explodes, is how you could possibly get a power. But there's 587 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.880 something a little bizarre about that. Why Gravick just wouldn't leave Fury out of 588 00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:59.440 the way to take on those things. Not a bad final fight scene. 589 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.239 Some cool moments in there between guying. I thought the ghost part was cool. 590 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.599 Yeah, I like it was just all mostly armed stuff. It looked 591 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.679 like Marty. It looked like Marty when he had the one really strong arm. 592 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:14.239 It's also, um, I liked the ebony mom moment. That was 593 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.000 pretty cool. That was cool. But when she had the Drax arm, 594 00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.880 I was like, that looks really fucking stupid. Uh. Yeah, the 595 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.159 scale was a little bizarre, Yes, it was. I thought Talos has 596 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.760 sacrificed to save the president. It was great. It was a cool moment 597 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.840 for Talos, who has sort of lacked that since we've seen him this whole 598 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:36.199 run time. And it does show at some point they'll be able to say, 599 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.679 hey, these scrolls actually helped helped save the President's life. Who the 600 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.039 President is now out for blood for all? Yeah, so with him out 601 00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.719 for blood for all non Earth creatures, I'm species. I'm trying to think 602 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.559 of what the word is he going to send the as Guardians back. It's 603 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:54.599 interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see how that plays into it because he 604 00:41:54.679 --> 00:42:00.159 signed a treaty and is at the bottom of I think Wakanda forever saying that 605 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:05.000 the es Guardians have you know, land here or something. I can't think 606 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.039 of thee. I don't think they're in America, are they? No, 607 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:12.880 No, they are. I think Iceland something like that. Yeah, yeah, 608 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.760 ye, Iceland as green and Greenland as ice. That doesn't matter a 609 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.599 ton, but the fact that I just told you that matters a lot um. 610 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.679 This whole harvest situation is also pretty interesting because they just have this one 611 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.800 vial with like thirty people's DNA's in it, which, by the way, 612 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:35.280 whenever they said collecting DNAs U I giggled. I giggled every single time. 613 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.639 I'm a child. I've seen some people online raised the fact that some of 614 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.840 those people weren't in the final Yeah, ghost wasn't. Yeah, but obviously 615 00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:45.880 they've been collecting samples over time, they've been building it up. Yeah, 616 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.079 that's an easy thing to explain away. But I just also imagine like Furies 617 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.400 in there. He's like, all right, you're in the Avengers. Jerk 618 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:58.920 off into this cup? Why no reason. They're like, oh, I 619 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:00.480 just did a couple of minutes ago. All right, Well, like in 620 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:06.559 a couple of hours, can you jerk off again in this cup? Um? 621 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.239 That which stuff? I think is kind of cool going forward though, 622 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.880 ye like that. That's gonna be a little bit of a wild card. 623 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.840 And as we already saw, the British Prime Minister comes back, she gets 624 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.400 shot, had already replaced herself. She ends up getting killed for real. 625 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.840 Fury, how is your day of the Hulk jerked off into this cup? 626 00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.519 Fucking huge load? Oh that what happened? Iron Pandy jerked off in this 627 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:36.559 cup? I has collected I collected jerk offs all day. That's what idea? 628 00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.599 What do you think they did for black Widow just jerked off into this 629 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.239 cup? I made a hand motion like this below the screen. Guys, 630 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:52.840 Goude, what are the final moments or the fire hair? This DNA DNA 631 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:59.519 its hair. Fury's final moment on screen during the series is him and Vara 632 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.559 and a nice makeout sesh before they go back up to Saber. And this 633 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:06.239 was just a little too much. I sent you the photo. I said, 634 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:10.039 what in the world is this? Then that's what made me question. 635 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.719 I'm like, okay, so clearly they have fornicated when she was a lady 636 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:21.440 and makes you think. It just makes you think of which I feel like 637 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:22.880 he's always had a thing of, Like, you know, if she's green, 638 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.639 I'd probably still do it. Which there are some nights, you know 639 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.400 where you are just in that mood where do you know you do? I 640 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.760 mean, look look at you. You know you'd do whatever. I know, 641 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.079 green, blue, purple, it don't matter. I'm gross, you're 642 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:44.239 green. Let's go. Um. I do like that little tidbit, like 643 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.119 how they came back together, because I thought this woman was a very good 644 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:50.320 actress. I don't know if she'll be playing the scroull going forward, Vara, 645 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.519 but a nice little moment that he accepts her for who she is, 646 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:57.840 she accepts him for who he is. It's just we didn't really need it 647 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:02.840 at the end, especially the tongue. But it was so like it wasn't 648 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.480 for me. But I could see someone watching this show and being like, 649 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.960 you know what, this has kind of jumped the shark, right, that's 650 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:15.199 a shark jumping moment. Correct. I don't know if it's quite that, 651 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:20.280 but yeah, I could see people getting pretty perturbed with it. Go you 652 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.599 had to figure guy, I was gonna remain in the MCU going forward, 653 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.559 Otherwise he wouldn't cast such a famous acts. Correct. I'm still a little 654 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.400 disappointed that graphics not in play going forward. I thought he was genuinely great 655 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.639 and a really good villain. Yeah he was good, but he's also he 656 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:39.920 always felt like a one off. Yeah he did. So it's more wishful 657 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:44.000 thinking than anything. I just wish we some of the villains. I wish 658 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.400 we have more of going forward, and that most of them end up being 659 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:53.320 one offs. Anything else on Roady want to talk about Rhadi again. That 660 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.199 is a pretty interesting thing going forward, and I think they still have Armor 661 00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.639 Wars on the horizons at some point. I don't know, because they've already 662 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:06.639 said that we're gonna cut back on some of these shows. Armor Wars feels 663 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.360 like an easy casualty. Yeah, probably, But his next appearance is gonna 664 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:16.239 be pretty interesting because he's gonna take in all these So if he was taken 665 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.559 post Civil War in the MCU. Time wise, it's been eight or nine 666 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.400 years that a scroll has been Roady, it's a really fucking long time, 667 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.400 I know, but I still need one bigger player to also. I agree 668 00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.760 with you, I think we need another phase one character that isn't Roady and 669 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.719 he wasn't even taking it also needs to be a human. It can't be 670 00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.880 another alien because that's true. Oh you mean this alien was also another alien 671 00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.480 like Pots, for example, Pepper Pot, Like that'd be but no, 672 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:50.159 that'd be too much in Stark's crew though, Like, don't you need someone 673 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.760 else in a different crew? Oh so well, I was gonna say, 674 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.159 maybe Happy Hogan, there's a scroll that's another person in the same crew. 675 00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.960 I know, but it was a heavy Tony Stark crew the whole time. 676 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:01.920 Like, what if you find out that he was in the back. What 677 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:07.800 if you find out that Flash Thompson was a scrull? I don't think they 678 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.599 were placed sixteen year old kids. What if you find out that Neil not 679 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:16.280 Neil? I think Neil's real name. What's his name there, Peter's friend. 680 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.280 I'm blanking on his name right now? Oh oh yeah, yeah, 681 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.800 I forget the fuck I forget his name. Zendia. What if Zendaia was 682 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:30.000 a scrulla? Like it's pronounced Zendia again. Go yeah. My biggest hope 683 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.280 from this show going forward is it creates the Fantastic Four or something like that. 684 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.639 Otherwise I don't know why you would spend so much time on this DNA 685 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.559 stuff if you weren't going to use it to the good guy's benefit at some 686 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.360 point. Also, I just want to like just one person be like, 687 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:51.760 oh, how did you get that DNA? He's like, well, I 688 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:55.400 got from the battlefield. How did you really get that DNA? So you 689 00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.960 wanted the post credit of Fury collecting jizz cups? No, just someone like 690 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:05.440 him admitting, like what he'd like that that'd be. So I either want 691 00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.840 the really serious roady ending of him finding out that he's been gone for so 692 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:13.760 long that Tony has died, that a lot of his world is gone, 693 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.119 or them talking about Seamen one of them. I think the Avengers, Towers 694 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.599 and Bass probably had some sort of thing where he couldn't enter it unless it 695 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:24.760 had your DNA and detect your DNA, So maybe that's how they got it. 696 00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:31.400 Put your cock in this stick your dick in this hole. Please get 697 00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:35.679 anything else from this show? No, that's it. It was. It 698 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:39.320 was a good not great show with the lackluster finale. That's that's my tay. 699 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.519 And once again I thought it was really cool because don't take away that 700 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.039 good's a negative, Nancy, I thought it was cool when he had the 701 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.599 grood Arm grid arm was great and it would have been great if you said, 702 00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.280 I wonder how this feels. They actually extremists was used better like four 703 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:57.800 times here than they ever used it in Ironman three twenty What did I say 704 00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.920 twenty four? You said twenty four? Yeah? Sure you two for me? 705 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.800 Why not? Where can the people find us? 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Okay, 721 00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.679 all right, keep an eye out for that, all right, I 722 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.960 guess so, just quickly, our schedule for next week. I think we're 723 00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:22.000 gonna do Barbenheimer. I just thought of that. No one said that before. 724 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.719 That's the first time ever. We're gonna do that on Monday, slash 725 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:29.599 Goose Day. And then the end of the week, we've got Turtles. 726 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.599 If I see it on time, you're gonna see it on time. I 727 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:39.440 don't know if I am. But I also now that we have forty MCU 728 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:44.320 properties, we should rank them. Yeah, forty to one after Turtles, 729 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.960 months after Turtles. All right, sounds good. Turtles opens on Tuesday, 730 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:51.079 by the way, does it really? Yeah? Okay, I might catch 731 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.119 that Saturday screener, but I'm oh, you know who, you can sit 732 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:58.559 with me and my brother. Oh, all right, I'm bringing my brother. 733 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:01.119 What was this new too? What did that stay? It's the Donnie 734 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.280 Darko thing. I guess Donnie Darko has not written on his arm or so, 735 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.719 I fucking hate that movie. I'm not a fan either. You know, 736 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:13.400 I'm gonna guess slash hope that he likes it, because otherwise that's an 737 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.239 odd thing to get. Yes, that would be bizarre. It's like, 738 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:20.480 oh, I fucking hate that movie. I got this tattoo. All right? 739 00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.400 Yeah, what do you want to do first? Barbie and or Oppenheimer 740 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.480 next week? Um, let's just doing like the same episode. Well split 741 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:31.719 it though, Let's do Oppenheimer comes out first, because you and DJ already 742 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.800 talked about Barbie. Then we'll do Barbie. Okay, we'll figure it out. 743 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.719 There's more of a gap. There's more of a gap. Yes, 744 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:42.239 we're gonna do three episodes next week. No, no, so there's more 745 00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.960 of a gap between the two Barbie episodes. Oh, just well, it's 746 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.519 gonna be one. It's one podcast, but then two different youtubes, two 747 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.679 releases, two releases. Yeah, you're gonna double release it all like the 748 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.559 movies. No, like a Tuesday Friday. So that's our two episodes next 749 00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.480 week Friday. Next week is Turtles. No one's seen an opening weekend. 750 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.360 Make that the Monday. Hear me out. It's gonna beat out both of 751 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.280 these movies in the box office. I mean for sure. Well and by 752 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.199 the way, to that point, gut. The two most packed theaters I've 753 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:15.440 been in non screener since COVID were these two movies, Barbie and Oppenheimer. 754 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:20.039 If it is projected to beat the two movies, we're doing Turtles on Friday, 755 00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.760 it has to be projected. I'm gonna be. That's our bet. 756 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.000 That is our bet. Okay, it's not gonna be, but if it 757 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.599 is, I'm look. I am looking forward to the movie. But I 758 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:34.760 will say spoiler. Barbie and Oppenheimer, they're both in my top six on 759 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.440 the year. I think I'm seeing Oppenheimer tonight in Barbie is not in my 760 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.760 top six. Barbie's in my five to eight range, but I think I 761 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.920 have a fifth or six Oppenheimer. Goot, it's a masterpiece. It's not 762 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.679 my favorite, no looking forward to it, but it's fucking so good. 763 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:57.199 Killian Murphy puts on I think one of like shortlist greatest performances of all time. 764 00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.079 It's a movie that was very difficult in the fact of I was on 765 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:05.079 vacation this past week, and it's one that you cannot sneak away to see 766 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.159 because it is half of the day, it's three it's three hours, it's 767 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.079 quite long, and I did check my phone once. I'm not gonna lie, 768 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:15.679 all right, So Tuesdays or Goose Days, I abuse kangaroos. Now 769 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:24.119 it's time for girls jumping on trampolines. Please flip the cassette over to side 770 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:25.639 B to continue the adventure.