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All right, it's the Downbeat.
I'm Kevin Turner, Danny Baylist, Mike's

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Roy Yet Maddie in for JJ today
producing the show two and four eight seven

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eight seven, one, nine seven
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way in on things, we got
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ahead and call. Maddy will take
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air if you got a good hot
cowboy. Take that's or are you thrown

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on the air if you're pissed.
Let's know if you ever real pissed to

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air it out. This is the
day have an update on the roads and

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a you know, he doesn't know
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official weatherman of the Downbeat. Ye
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TVs all over here and again when
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started the snow that was at five
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too bad, but I think it
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us there was an upside down car
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he was heading the other way upside
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well Man from a reputable source.
Did Kevin Smith's chances of becoming the downbeat

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Weatherman official Weatherman? Did his chances
like escalate the second that Kylie blocked you

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from Fox forty. She didn't block
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neither did Rick Mitchell. I'll have
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last night. I get the world
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well, and I said, we're
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if you want to jump on at
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Rick Mitchell, who was apologized for
his cut into the Lions Rams game yesterday,

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is sunk it into a leather chair
right now with a tie loosened in,

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a empty bottle of whiskey on the
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light fluffy coating, just melting into
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man, we know that's happens,
and absolutely does. Man. You can't

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predict that, and you're working.
You're doing live TV sort of yeah,

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but I mean not real live.
I mean you just trying to do a

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live stream action. So he's trying
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He's trying to do stuff for the
online community. You know, ask

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you guys a question about that Cowboy
game yesterday. I want to see if

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you shared my feelings. When it
got you know, late second half and

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it was obvious that the Cowboys were
not going to come back, that they

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were going to show no real possibility
of winning that game, did your head

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immediately go to Ohn. No,
what we're about to deal with is a

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lot of probably a lot of Twitter
and online stuff of the same recycled stuff

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that we deal with pretty much every
every Cowboys season. You can't win with

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Dak. McCarthy's got to go.
This team won't ever win a Super Bowl

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as long as Jerry is alive,
all of that rhetoric that just seems to

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keep spending the memes of Jerry,
you know, calling Belichick at halftime and

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just dealing with all that stuff.
Whereas I think that we try to be

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pretty measured the show that I think
for the most part has a steady hand

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mikey to where it's like, no, you can win with Dak, and

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dude, if Mike McCarthy of you
three three years in a row with twelve

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wins, he how is he that
bad? What if they're all right?

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What if what if everybody that that
is is going back to that boilerplate cowboy

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anti cowboy rhetoric when the season ends
tragically like it has for the last thirty

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years. What if they're all right? Yeah, I don't know, I

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can At what point do you say
it, I'm done well, but no

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one's gonna You're not gonna say no, no, I'm done having any hope

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that this is ever going to be
any different until until Jerry's just no longer

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in command. I don't know.
I think those are all easy things to

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say out loud and point and say
it's Jerry's fault. Yes, the culture

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and all that, I get that. And the way this team came out

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yesterday and was it either ill prepared, had not right. I don't even

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know how to describe that s especially
when you factor the Dax CD thing,

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which was real absolutely what the hell
was that? Yeah, Na could act

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like that was nothing, and they
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D didn't talk to the media after
the game. Brandon Cooks did and said

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that we were just talking coverages and
all that stuff or something oot like when

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McCarthy talked to CD on the sideline. Yeah, so that's what I had,

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And I had heard the Rady Cooks
audio either, but he CD didn't

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talk after the game. Brandon Cooks
did in the media had said it was

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no big deal, but either way
it was clear. I've never heard a

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national but we'll play the audio for
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a national broadcast spend as much time
as they did on something that wasn't terribly

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obvious, because it's not like the
days of des being misunderstood on the sideline

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ranting and Raven just being an emotional
dude and people called him out for that

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stuff, and he was really just
going, let's go, come on,

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you know, he's just kind of
just being passionate. Ceedee Lamb didn't act

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like he was frustrated with dak At. I mean that first drive, they

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get that first down, I do
think it's a bit of a different game

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maybe, and sure enough, you
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you know, it's fourteen nothing biggest
issue. You got punched in the face

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and couldn't stop the run. And
this happened in twenty seventeen. You couldn't

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stop the run, you got gashing. Hear out of the playoffs. Your

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first round draft pick this year was
Mozzie Smith, and he was supposed to

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be a run stopping defensive tackle.
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he doesn't play, and he doesn't
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these guys are developmental guys and they
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four, then you go, okay, maybe it was worth it.

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But my god, it's just so
hard to reconcile the way they lost yesterday.

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Because it's one thing because Dak came
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I sucked today. All right,
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have a marginal quarterback performance and still
win a game because your defense played balls

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out or your your running game was
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they they couldn't cover anybody, they
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they were inept. They couldn't really
run the ball effectively consistently. Dak

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was out of sync for the you
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I mean from coaching, offense,
defense personnel. Nothing went right for them.

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All search for the reason for that, like how does that happen?

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Right? And yes, I'm a
very wide ten thousand foot view. You

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can blame Jerry for the overall franchise, but sure that's not what happened yesterday.

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And now there is truth too.
They were maybe tight. I don't

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know if they were cocky. I
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ahead and destination San Francisco. You
know, I don't think that's the case.

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But the packers, for damn sure, came out with the f everybody

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mentality. They said it, the
coach said it. I mean, they

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went out and said we want the
ball and because they wanted to make a

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statement, and they did exactly that. And the Cowboys, whether it goes

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all the way up to Jerry or
a team that's kind of the Cadillac team.

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When things are going well fine,
you are shuffling your feet in the

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boxing ring and throwing jabs and winding
up this punch and punching them with the

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left hand like you're doing all the
tricks. But as soon as you get

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jacked in the face, you cower, you pucker, and you fail.

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And that is consistent. You brought
up an interesting analogy. It's like the

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Cowboys showed up yesterday and they felt
like they were just going to drive the

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cadillact through the whole game. And
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what, we need to move over
to the f one fifty, it was

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too late and the other team met. You know, the Packers had scrubs

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in at that point, dude.
That's what your your head coaches, the

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last line of defense for that.
Yeah, and part of what you do

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that week is I guess we're amind
of And but you know he's doing that.

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You know, Mike McCarthy's not rolling
in there all week like, boys,

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let's just dust off the Pats and
or the pack and we'll figure out

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what's next week. He's not doing
that, right, But there's something with

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this franchise that makes it consistent where
you are good when you're when you're leading.

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Yeah, but you as soon as
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you get scared and you crawl into
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to take the ball smack them immediately. And that was it. The kind

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of over after the I mean,
now that we know the result, sure,

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it was kind of over after they
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seventy five yards running it all.
I think Aaronrew Jones had twenty five yards

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on that drive, rushing a couple
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play they didn't come out and make
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first play. Then there was that
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sack, but it was Deron bland
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they called illegal contact. Okay,
fine, next play they come up,

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demarcusmort stops the run. So it's
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plays, and then Jordan Love made
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one time through a sidearm pass,
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the middle. And then by then
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go, and that's run the ball
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confuse you and go over the top
on the play action all that stuff that

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they want to do. And how
the forty nine ers beat the Cowboys every

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year, it seems by doing that
same type of thing. Dan Quinn had

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made comments earlier in the week about
look today, this offense is really good.

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Aaron Jones has a bunch of a
great menu of routes out of the

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backfield. So we gotta be sure
that we can cover him as well as

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all the wide receivers. I do
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playing man against all those four young
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or year two. The Packers two
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Total. They got beat without two
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producing, right, Romeo, sorry, Romeo Dobbs is not even like a

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game. That's his first one hundred
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He's kind of a red zone threat
for them, and like he'll catch a

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touch He'll use this normal stat line
as what three tarts where four targets,

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two catches. Yeah, thirty two
yards in a touchdown. Yeah, maybe,

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like that's just what he is.
Not a gas breaker at all.

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Yeah, he's like gallop almost,
Like yeah, in a way used that

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often. How do you stop?
Like you stop the run? Okay,

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so, dan Quinn, they haven't
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You know a lot of teams don't
try to, you know, stick with

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the run because they can't because the
Cowboys are ahead. Hows you're behind,

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you beat them. It's that simple
and the Cowboys playing against teams. I'm

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telling yah the Bills game. You
said this two weeks ago. Three weeks

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ago, you said that Bills game
told us a lot about this team.

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Well, something the league figured something
out. Yeah, maybe maybe the game

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planning was there too, because there's
a lot of stuff happening too. We

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just go to the offense for a
minute. The quarterbacks first interception partially on

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him. That's that's a cornerback one
in this league making a cornerback one play

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Jyra. Alexander's great and maybe the
game is little different than if he doesn't

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play. That's him making a play
on a ball physically. You know,

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that was a fifty to fifty ball
that didn't get it off from Brandon Cooks

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in my opinion. But whatever,
the pick six inexcusable can't happen. And

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that's where you get started asking these
damn questions that I feel stupid even bringing

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up sometimes because Dak is a clear
good quarterback in this league, very very,

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very very good. And I don't
know, man, I would rather

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bitch about a twelve team, twelve
win team losing in the playoffs than bitch

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about a four team a four win
team that had to blow it up and

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can't find someone. But there is
something too, Okay, do we we

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just asked the questions, we do
this. This is Romo all over again.

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It's the same damn thing. We
know they're a good quarterback, and

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then you sit there and go,
well, I'm sorry, Dak kind of

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moved the ball really well in the
second half. Sure, the first half,

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I think with more opportunities, I
think they moved the ball a little

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bit better. But those two mistakes
can't happen in a playoff game at home

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when you're undefeated. I don't know
what to do. And that's where we

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go back to the circular table of
Cowboys discussions, because they're gonna talk about

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extending his contract and all that stuff, and I don't trust him to go

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find a quarterback personally, But there's
something that happens in I don't know man

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sport at any level, even though
we've probably felt that, I definitely have

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where I'm failing. I'm scared.
I know I'm failing in front of everyone

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and the coup and you shouldn't have
that with experience, but Dak has that,

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and you can almost see it in
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and maybe that's the kind of thing
that does lead back to the Cowboys franchise

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as a whole, and like,
oh my god, we're on the biggest

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stage and I'm failing. They're down
fourteen to nothing, you know, we're

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down twenty to nothing. There's something
to that where it's like you can barely

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feel your extremities and you know you're
failing, and mentally you're just melting down.

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And it doesn't it seems like experienced
quarterbacks and teams don't do that.

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They that Maybe that's as simple as
it is, is calm under pressure,

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rock party or calm under pressure just
being a novice where you don't even know

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that you need to be freaking out
right now. And I don't know if

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that obviously doesn't fit into that category, but it looks like a different dude.

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Jordan Love was freaking out in Week
two. Yeah, but that's when

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you do freaking missing the snap and
you know, jumping off sides at quarterback.

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Jordan Love played like a serial killer
with dead eyes yesterday and no emotion.

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That's kind of what you want.
We should have had a quarterback advantage

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yesterday, and we had it with
the distant second best quarterback on the field.

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And don't even I mean, no
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damn stats, because who kives a
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final score, no doubt. Is
it possible that you know you that,

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okay, this happens, that certain
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any Sunday and have just a bad
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bad defensive performance. We're lucky our
offense bailed us out. It was a

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tight game at the end. Blah
blah blah. Is it possible that you

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just had the odd confluence of every
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and had a bad game collectively.
I think the odds of that are very

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low. Well, and and the
Packers team was peaking at the right time,

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so let's throw in that they were
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on all cylinders, which I'm not
doing. The Look what I said the

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last week I told you guys,
or last week we were talking about I

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said, if Calazos's game, it's
because we're gonna be asking questions about dan

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quinn and that's gonna fall on McCarthy's
playing the food. But like that is.

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That is bad and that's the most
Jordan love is the guys watch every

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damn Packer game this year. That's
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to the ground. So they were
close, I think on some of those.

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of hits after the whistle and things

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like that. I was sitting there
though, going, man, how ironic

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they give up fifty points on the
game where they get to Micah Holds because

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they've been bitching about that more than
anything else. Yep, I mean,

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I I don't know. And the
truth is they were never as good as

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we thought they were because of empty
wins. There's that, But dude,

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how are you not ready to play? How are you not ready to play?

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And how are you not ready to
handle when things don't go well for

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you? I'm sorry. That tells
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And that's where experience has to kick
in, whether it be Mike McCarthy's playoff

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success and experience or Dak Prescott's tenure
and playing on a big stage every damn

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week because it is the Cowboys,
like, some of that should kick in.

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None of it did. And you
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That's the other thing. Sorry,
that's a better team than the Cowboys yesterday

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it was. Now you can say, oh no, look at the records,

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look at this, look at the
talent, and then sure, line

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up the talent, say who's better
Romeo Dobbs or a CD Lamb. Okay,

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fine, don't care. That was
a better team. Yeh, Dallas.

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Whatever you want to coaching or cool
under fire or decision making or just

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straight performance, but that's the better
team crushed the inferior team. Dallas smokes

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them in October. But October wins
mean nothing. And we say this every

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damn here. Why does this not
translate to January? Do you want to

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let a collar twist off? Fro
am? Minute? Yes, there's Jonathan.

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Hello Jonathan, you're on ninety seven
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Dallas MAVs and the Inside Sports Medicine
with To Sorriol Saturdays at seven. What

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are you doing? Hey, guys? Hey, I was just wondering,

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man, what's up with city Land's
body language on the sidelines and what was

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that about? Hey, he's not
a diva? Okay, he's a diva?

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Sure? No, he is absolutely
a diva, which is why they

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continue to scream he's not a diva. Yes, yes, the helmet off

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in week five. And by the
way, you can be a diva and

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be awesome and be great and everyone
can love you. It's it's fine.

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The week five helmet off. There's
the image. I'll try to go find

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it if I can. He's standing
on the sideline away from his teammate,

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helmet off, just watching the game
and pouting. And that led to a

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meeting. And granted, he wasn't
being used properly back then, so he

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had something to bitch about. Jonathan, thanks for calling. Yes, you'd

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be very very safe. Okay.
How the roads out there, Jonathan?

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Where are you coming from? Man? Maya? I am in Granbury,

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Texas. Roads are okay. I
got a little dustin but roads alright.

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Though. You think there's a better
than zero chance will come away with some

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hypothermia today or what? Well?
I just got offward from working out all

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night and it was it was a
cold night. I'll tell you that.

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What do you do, man,
I work in the oil field. You're

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out the oil field all night last
night? Oh yeah, all night last

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night? What are you doing?
Are you the guy with the he's a

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roughnecker twisting the thing and all your
friends have a finger missing. No,

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I'm know, I'm no roughneck here. I was working at a station,

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a compressor station, all night.
You get hazard as duty pay for yesterday.

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Oh no, I'm a sorry dude. But they told me, Hey,

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you need to work nights tonight.
I'm like, thank you, I

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get Is it where you by yourself? Yeah? By myself, by myself

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all night? Did you bring a
Playboy to work? Negative? I watched

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cut up on Jack Weacher on Amazon
all night, and uh, man,

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that guy turns me on. I
was six foot five. Man, we

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need to sign him the Cowboys.
Huh, well, it sounds like you're

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really keeping the petroleum industry. I
did nine episodes of Reacher, looked at

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Playboy. I was well, I
was. I was in a bad movie

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all night. I was like,
man, we'll watch the Cowboys game.

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Go to the Cowboys in I gotta
go into work. But man, I

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was. I was kicked off.
We drove to work, checked off for

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the last for the first three hours. I was kicked off. Man.

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But Jonathan, Man, this sucks. Jonathan. In ten seconds, you're

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the voice of all of Cowboys Nation
right now. Big responsibility how do we

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fix this thing? Man? Man, I don't know, man, because

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we got all the weapons five seconds. But but but man, we I

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don't think we have the right person
steering the ship. Damn, Hi,

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Jonathan, thanks hommy, I know
we fixed this. Just watched the season

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finale of Jack Reacher. Yeah,
I don't know, Like I think,

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who's who are you? Are you
sure is just a dirty dog on this

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roster? And I have two people
that I think are des DeMarcus Lawrences who

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I think of and he had a
crucial offside penalty. I think DeMarcus Lawrence

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and I think Zach Martin. Yeah, and I don't know that anyone else

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is. I think Tyron is a
little bit. But but yeah, yeah,

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I think Tyron is. But he's
been here for a lot of I

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mean, as has DeMarcus now,
and then pell Zach has two You don't

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think Micah is a dirty dog?
I don't know. I don't know either,

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man. I mean, because he's
got a lot of look at me

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stuff, and I don't know,
I don't know. I don't even know

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what that means all that. I
mean, DeMarcus doesn't give a blank and

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he's gonna stuff the damn run And
I don't know. I think he's the

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least of our problems, even though
he did have a significant path. But

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he's not a problem. I don't
know what Mike's great, but mis and

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things aren't going his way. Is
talking about the NFL All Pro Team and

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how he got snubbed from that,
Like, dude, I'm sorry. T

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J. Watt and Miles Garrett are
better players than you, Like, we

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don't have to these things and these
are the best guys, and except the

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quarterback position, it's like you kind
of aren't. And that's why. So

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they're not in this conversation and haven't
been in since the nineties. They don't

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get to the Final four. They're
not going to They're not going to next

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year or the year after that.
The am ever, with three straight twelve

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win seasons that didn't make it to
a conference championship game. Yeah, it's

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like they are the picture of paper
champs. Yeah, they're the image of

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a regular season team that cowers fails
in the postseason. And it's now like

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stamped confirmed. I dreaded today last
night not not working with you guys.

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I love you guys, but I
dreaded the tone of what today was going

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to be because we've been through this
so many times and I just knew that

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we would sit here asking a million
questions and have no answers, and it

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just seems like it's it's a hamster
on a damn wheel. It makes no

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sense. It's a big collective thing
too, coaching ownership, Yah, office

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not getting you any rookies this year
for the first time in a long time,

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players that we have questions about every
single time. Look, it's a

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culture thing too, it has to
be, but it's and it's a Cadillac

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mentality that really is. Man.
I love this. I love that you

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said that because a dirty dog is
going to man up on defense and not

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play, in effect was a prevent
the entire game. It's like they were

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afraid, Okay, we're just not
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But if it's a third and nine
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all day. Granted, Love didn't
even have any completions. He had like

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like, I think of his completions
were touchdowns. Well, I think I

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think they tried to I think on
the defense they tried to out fox a

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bear. I mean, Matt before
said before the game he said, well,

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we're the underdogs. We're just gonna
come out throw haymakers whatever, now

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coach talk whatever from the guy that
looks like like Trent Reznor whatever. But

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okay, well they did not give
a damn. They were coming out and

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they were gonna run their plays and
they were gonna throw it down the field.

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Okay, how about the exactly that
represented by the Gregenator said all right,

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I think you know they're running the
ball. You're gonna have to fill

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the box here, sell out and
just let your dbs do their coverage.

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The very next play they ran that
little play action and there was a Musgrave.

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Yeah, the most open receiver in
the history of the sport. Dude,

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that was peewee fighters. Wait to
see the All twenty two and I'm

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so glad they showed it when they
came back from break. How unreal,

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dude, that was nuts. Right, that's not NFL No, but someone's

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running up with a contract at full
speed, dan Quinn to get him to

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be your head coach. Which that's
when you find somebody in Madden for the

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first time. Hey, right,
and they don't they go user control on

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the corner, jeez, and just
charge charge the run. Look, we

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got more of this crap all day
long. Nine o'clock. Do we need

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to make coaching change. We're gonna
throw out names and we want you to

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go. You can weigh in with
this. Uh just called seven eight seven

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one nine seven one. Uh.
You can be just like Jonathan coming out

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