WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.559 All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of Wrestle Magic, where tonight 2 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:23.160 my friend King Scully and I will be talking about just bad gimmicks that we're 3 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:26.920 in the wrestling business for a few years. So, without further ado, 4 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:30.640 my partner my Wrestle Magic UK team, King Scolly, King Scully, how 5 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:36.359 you doing, man, I'm very good and thank you for the kind introduction. 6 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:41.479 How are you not too bad? Man? So excited for this one. 7 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.719 Man, I know we've talked about some bad gimmes, We've made fun 8 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:47.439 of them enough times, so I just thought this would be a good episode. 9 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:56.000 How long have we been talking about this now a few weeks and to 10 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:00.039 be fair, it's quite perfectic some of it, isn't it. Yeah, 11 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.680 just reading up and watching videos about some of these guys, it's like, 12 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.599 man, what were they thinking? Who is this supposed to appeal to? 13 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:11.680 And I'm really excited to get into this one, so further ado. To 14 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:17.280 start this off, I first picked for one of the worst gimmicks in the 15 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.480 wrestling business. Was I'm gonna start off with some of the more obvious ones. 16 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:25.959 I'm gonna go with mantar just because God, what was the idea? 17 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:32.719 This was probably around that nineteen ninety five era where they didn't really understand what 18 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:34.680 the people wanted, and they're throwing out just annual gimmick and try and get 19 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:41.040 anything stick in that New Generation era that was coming out, And they put 20 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:47.040 a giant bison head on this guy and just sent him in and everybody was 21 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.719 asking like, well, what if he gets in the ring and falls over? 22 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.000 And that's exactly what ended up happening at one point, Scully, do 23 00:01:53.000 --> 00:02:00.200 you remember anything with Mantar? Yeah, memory looked have a bull and I 24 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:05.879 don't think anyone cared. Yeah. Sounds about right, honestly. Man. 25 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:12.840 Once again, that nineteen ninety five ish New Generation era, it just there's 26 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:17.080 something Gamix that really did not stick. All right, So on to the 27 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:23.800 next one, Scully, What was your first pick then? So my first 28 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:30.319 pick is where fake Diesel. I don't know what there was thinking. I 29 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:35.560 don't know why if it would be a good idea to have Glenn Jacobs play 30 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:40.439 fake Diesel. Yes, he went on to be Kane and everyone loves Kane, 31 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:46.759 but fake Diesel Nope. Only one person could play Diesel, and that 32 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:52.240 was the original guy, Kevin Nash. But once he went to WCW that 33 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.479 was it WWF at the time before it was a good idea to try, 34 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:01.360 and I don't know, mock Kevin Nash and I don't think it worked, 35 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:07.400 do you, ah Man? So I've heard a little bit about this that 36 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:13.039 WWE still owned the rights to the name Diesel and the character. Same thing 37 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.639 with Razor Ramone, and they just decided, Okay, well we still have 38 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:20.719 the rights to him, We're going to use them. And then it just 39 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:24.840 fell flat. I feel like Glenn Jacobs has always been a good wrestler, 40 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.439 but this just was not the character for him. The Cane character is just 41 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:35.199 him personified at this point. I don't feel like he can personify anything else. 42 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:39.080 So fake Diesel. I don't know what they were thinking. Really, 43 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:44.639 he didn't look the part, didn't really seem the part. I was definitely 44 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.120 not a fan of it, all right, So next one for me, 45 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:52.919 I'm going to call out the gobbledee gooker, who, if you guys didn't 46 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:57.280 know, was actually Hector Guerrero inside the costume. For a couple of weeks, 47 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:01.039 they had this giant egg that they kept showing and it was going to 48 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.360 be like, oh, some pig's gonna come out of that soon and then 49 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:10.479 what ended up coming out of it was a giant turkey and started dancing in 50 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:15.080 the ring, and the fans just loathed it, and nobody liked that. 51 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:20.480 I guess it was supposed to be some sort of new potential icon or mascot 52 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:26.920 I guess I should say for the company, But nobody cared. Nobody wanted 53 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.120 to see that. You're in a wrestling business and you want that to be 54 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.720 your mascot, and it makes no sense. Heckor Burrow is a pretty good 55 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:41.639 performer. How would you put him in the giant chicken suit? It just 56 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.560 seems so silly to me. Who is this supposed to appeal to? Not 57 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.560 even the kids were interested. Scully, when did you think of that one? 58 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:55.839 Man? Well, I remember leading up to it. I don't know 59 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:01.560 why the fans were excited and disappointed, because, I mean, what else 60 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:05.439 is going to come out of a big giant egg? I mean, why 61 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:10.399 would you even be looking forward to be surprised by a big giant egg? 62 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:13.720 Do you know what I mean? Like, who's going to come out the 63 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.839 easter bunnet? No, what you got was a big chicken thing, And 64 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:24.720 just like the other two we've already mentioned. I'm pretty sure he was, 65 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:29.720 you know when he in a like Battle Roil a few years ago as well. 66 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:35.240 And just like Mantor and Fake Diesel who is also in roild Rumble Matches, 67 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:44.839 no one cared. You are dead on with that. Nobody could have 68 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:48.279 cared about it, and honestly, what were they thinking? But also you're 69 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.439 right, I mean, what else were you really expecting to come out of 70 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.600 an egg? But I don't know, man, the wrestling world's full of 71 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:58.680 a lot of just random stuff like that. So onto your next, big 72 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:06.480 budd So I've switched it a bit because you said that one. I thought 73 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:12.759 it would only make sense if I go with this one next, which is 74 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:20.560 Red Rooster played by Terry Taylor. So obviously Terry Taylor. He was a 75 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:26.160 good wrestler and he had a lot of promise. He came up through the 76 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:30.800 ranks. He was in the Jim Crockett promotions, he was in the Mid 77 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:38.879 South Wrestling Universal Wrestling Federation, he was in WCW. So, I mean 78 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:44.079 he was really popular. He was a fan favorite in the Mid South region 79 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.439 and the fans loved him. And then he comes to the WWF and what 80 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:55.720 did they do they make him at some point turn heel and join Bobby the 81 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:00.560 brainheenan And then his gimmick was the red rooster and what did he do? 82 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:08.839 Have red tights, a ring coat, and then when he became a babyface 83 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:14.040 again, his hair he did like a rooster comb and it was like a 84 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:17.240 red mok and food the middle of his long hair. And I mean, 85 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:25.519 he had a lot of promise, but the gimmick just never worked. I 86 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:32.000 don't know if you remember it. So I have watched some things about him 87 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:38.639 and seeing the way that he would walk in the ring and everything and try 88 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:42.519 to act almost like a rooster. Once again, this is one of those 89 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:48.079 that who was going to care about this? And that is what sometimes the 90 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:54.720 characters boil down to is if you don't have anybody who this applies to, 91 00:07:55.680 --> 00:08:00.759 why would anybody care? And there's just some characters like somebody that's not on 92 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:05.480 either of our list we made sure about is the ring master, who of 93 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:11.720 stone Cold himself had huge issues with who was going to relate to that nobody 94 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.800 was going to want to see red rooster versus the ring master at WrestleMania. 95 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.680 This was never going to work. And I don't know whose idea it was 96 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:26.560 to think it would. But anyways, so my next pick is the Reboatman, 97 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.160 once again, one of those names that you could never see on a 98 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.759 marquee because it just wouldn't make sense. Another one of those names that it 99 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:41.039 seemed like WWE and WCW for a while they went back and forth around nineteen 100 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:48.480 ninety five ish making up these gimmicks that were job related, and there's nothing 101 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:52.240 completely wrong with that, but some just don't need it. And I mean 102 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:54.840 the way this guy looked, it looked like the freaking Hamburglar from the McDonald's 103 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:58.000 group, whatever you want to call that. I don't see once again, 104 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.039 who was going to relate to this and think, man, that guy, 105 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.320 it's just like nobody could ever have seen that. You don't really see much 106 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:13.879 of his content honestly from back when it just seems a ridiculous sky. Do 107 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:20.919 you remember or know anything about this guy? Yep, just like the other 108 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.679 ones. I seen him in Royal Rumble Matches. I seen him running around 109 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:31.559 acting like he don't know what he's doing. But I also know that the 110 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.519 Repo Man and Ted de Biossi, the million Dollar Man, beat Virgil and 111 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:43.879 Tito Santana. So I mean, I'm pretty sure that they felt embarrassed. 112 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:48.120 And I mean even went into the nineteen ninety two Royle Rumble. He's snuck 113 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.279 into the ring after running around like I don't know what he was doing. 114 00:09:50.600 --> 00:10:00.440 And then he even eliminated Nikolai Folkoff and Greg Dhammer Valentine before being a dominated 115 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:05.279 by the big boss man. So you imagine what they must think, Oh, 116 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:13.600 we got eliminated by this guy. It's duke of a gimmick. Man 117 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.639 that is embarrassing to say the least. Oh, man, the worst this 118 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:28.919 list gets all right, onto your next one. Man, Oh, I'm 119 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:35.960 going to go with Max Moon. Well, the name itself tells you that 120 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:41.279 it's terrible. I mean, you hear the name and you think, here 121 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:46.279 we go. I'm scared of a wrestler card Max mun Who's going to be 122 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:48.080 scared of that guy? Do you know what I mean? I mean, 123 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.799 I mean, I don't know if you've seen his outfit, but he looked 124 00:10:52.879 --> 00:11:00.360 terrible, like I don't know if it was some kind of weird superhero cheap 125 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:09.440 knockoff costume from the one of those cheap shops where you could get fake costumes 126 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:13.919 from. But I don't know why they thought it was a good idea, 127 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:20.159 but the costume itself, he didn't even fit the soup. And that's not 128 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:26.120 even a joke. He didn't even fit in properly. Looked absolutely silly. 129 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:31.279 And the worst thing is it is played by Conah, you know co Nan 130 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:39.320 from WCW. I vaguely remember it. So looking at this guy his outfit, 131 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:45.159 the only thing that comes to mind for me is Mega Man from the 132 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:50.559 video games. And that is not a compliment. That is not something that 133 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:56.879 you should look to personify in a sports entertainment ring. I guess we could 134 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:05.360 say, what was the idea here? Yeah, this whole gimmick doesn't really 135 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.440 make sense to me. It almost looks like they tried to bring a video 136 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.720 game character to life, and and I kind of feel bad for whoever had 137 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:18.120 to personify this. Why would they subject anybody to have to do this? 138 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.919 That is so ridiculous? Man? All right, So onto my next one. 139 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:26.600 I was just going to say, sorry, do you know the worst 140 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:31.720 thing about it? No? What's that? Man? He was actually called 141 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:37.480 the Comic Kid for a few matches so before before they settled in Max Moon, 142 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:43.320 he was called the Comic Kid what's worse the comic Kid or Max Smooth. 143 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:48.960 I think they're equally just as bad. My god, who was on 144 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:56.360 Creative thinking we need this to sell a ten year old kid, maybe maybe 145 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.960 some kindred of a picture and thought this guy be a wrestler, and then 146 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:07.120 it was like, let's try it. Yeah, okay, sorry about you 147 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.120 got hey, no problem, man, Hey, I'm glad that you jumped 148 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:15.039 in for that. All right. So my next pick somebody who is known 149 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:20.519 as the YEDDI well, at least I remember. I believe it was WCW 150 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.519 that they used to announce him as the Yetay for every single thing that ever 151 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:30.159 happened. But I remember, similar to the Gobbledegooker. His debut was I 152 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:35.080 believe, out of some sort of iceberg, glacier, some sort of giant 153 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:41.919 ice block from what I remember, And I just remember thinking, what was 154 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.600 the point of this. The guy's like seven feet tall, dressed up as 155 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:52.679 a mummy. They're calling him the Yetti. He doesn't seem like he's completely 156 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.960 incapable in the ring, but the things that they're having him do just don't 157 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.519 look right. I remember there was some sort of a bear hug that I 158 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.639 believe the Giant who is now known as Big Show and the Yetty were doing 159 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:11.639 too hul Kogan, but it looked like they were just hugging him and just 160 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.559 shaking. And I can't make this up. If you guys look it up. 161 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:20.080 It is the most ridiculous looking thing I've ever seen in a segment. 162 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.759 And I question, what was that supposed to do to him? Why did 163 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:31.000 they create this character? Who was supposed to Who feels anything with this character? 164 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.480 What kind of attachment? Who is going to buy merch for this? 165 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.600 Why does this exist? And why of all things did a mummy come out 166 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:43.320 of an iceberg? And why are they calling that a yetti? None of 167 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:48.159 this adds up. None of this makes sense? Why? Why? Why? 168 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:54.279 That's gully? Take it from me, man, I guess the only 169 00:14:54.639 --> 00:15:00.200 thing is it is that I is. And I think it seems, uh 170 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.720 the writers were crazy in the nighties and they didn't know what they were doing. 171 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:11.360 I mean with some cases, yeah, you've got superstars out of it, 172 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:16.759 but then in other cases, like the yetti whatever that was meant to 173 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:24.080 be, Yeah, you've got a waste of space, that's what you've got. 174 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:31.639 Oh, totally agreed, man, that was just God awful. Why 175 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:35.360 is all I can ask at this point, and I hate to sound like 176 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.559 the angry video game nerd, just completely asking why, why, why why? 177 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.919 But that's all I can think of with this one. I mean, 178 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.200 the guy's over seven feet tall. He was the fact that he is tall 179 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.840 as the gimmick. How many times have they done in the past, and 180 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.240 it works? And Andre the giant who mentally was a powerhouse, So that 181 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.799 makes sense. You've had the big Show who pretty much the same gimmick, 182 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.559 and I just used the fact that he's tall and say, just go in 183 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:03.039 there and do. Man. You don't have to be insanely talented, but 184 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:07.000 you can cut a promo, you can hit a few moves and you can 185 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.639 look at doing that. You will do fine because you're gonna look tall and 186 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:14.279 dominant. That is all you really needed, all right? I digress, 187 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:15.879 Scully. What's your next one? Man, let's get off this one. 188 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.600 So my next one, because you named that one, I thought I'd go 189 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:29.279 with another big guy. And we've already mentioned the fake Diesel. Well, 190 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:36.120 this guy he played the real Diesel. But when he was in the wc 191 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:42.519 W, before he became Diesel, he was a character known as Oz and 192 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:52.159 again another big dude, Kevin Nash, playing a character based on the Wizard 193 00:16:52.200 --> 00:17:00.679 of Oz from the children's book. I mean, he comes out with some 194 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:07.720 stupid mask on with some weird dark smoke effect coming down to their ring, 195 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:15.960 like he's all intimidated, coming down with the great Wizard who kind of reminds 196 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:25.440 me of Gray Wyatt, Uncle Howdy kind of thing. And yeah, I 197 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.880 don't know why they thought it would work, but it looked terrible. And 198 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.480 then when he got in the ring, he took the mask off anyway to 199 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:41.359 reveal his proper face. What was the point ofn't it? And the nineties 200 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:48.000 was such a weird time for wrestling as I don't understand the idea. I 201 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.160 don't understand the demographic they were aiming for. I just know that they did 202 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.720 it because they had nothing else to do besides probably a mountain of cocaine in 203 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.200 the back. I don't know what else could have possibly brought these thoughts further 204 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:10.000 than the table any other thoughts on him? Skully, Yeah he's followed the 205 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:15.359 yellow out of air, thank god. And yeah, a fit. That's 206 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:22.079 enough about that loser, all right, fair enough? So the next guy 207 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:30.240 that I want to cover. Now this one's a little weird. The Stormtrooper 208 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:37.319 is what he was called. Now, this guy, I don't believe the 209 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:42.880 character lasts very long for a very good reason because the character himself was supposed 210 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:48.079 to be in the eighties portraying a Nazi. He literally just came out, 211 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.640 had swastikas all over him, waved a Nazi flag, and there wasn't really 212 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.480 much to the character from what I've seen. Besides, it was a very 213 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.960 very way to get eat and it seemed even classless in the eighties at that 214 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:03.640 point, Like, why would you want this character to be around? It 215 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:10.880 seems strange at that point. I understand wanting cheap heat, but going that 216 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:17.720 route, I feel like it's a bit far as a heel. Maybe you'll 217 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:21.279 get a little bit of a reaction, and maybe you'll get people just annoyed 218 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:25.240 with you more than anything. But I saw a point in this character, 219 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.839 and I saw him as very pointless from the beginning. To be honest with 220 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.960 you, Scully, do you know anything about this guy, because I know 221 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.839 he was in a I believe Smoking Mountain Wrestling is where he made his debut 222 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.200 and where the character showed up and died. Basically you know anything about him. 223 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:48.799 Yeah, it says a lot when people say the shock Muster is more 224 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:53.279 entertaining. I think that says it all. Really. I mean, at 225 00:19:53.359 --> 00:20:00.559 least the shock Muster fell through a wall and on his debut and everyone found 226 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:04.480 somewhat funny about it. But this guy, I don't know what they were 227 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:11.160 thinking. But again, as you said, cheap heat, trying get him 228 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:17.839 some booze around the arena. But yeah, he's costumed to have it. 229 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:26.400 But anyway, it was never gonna work, was it. No, I 230 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.160 don't think it was. I think it was doomed from the start. Honestly, 231 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:37.000 Yeah, I'm I'm really sure who that would have Well, I guess 232 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:37.920 it would have made a lot of people angry, and it would have been 233 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.279 a good way to get cheap heat by other than that man. The storm 234 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.920 Trooper has to be one of the worst ones. I saw no point in 235 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:48.039 this. I thought it was kind of classless, to be honest with you, 236 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.359 man. But once again, I digress back to your list. Men. 237 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:03.039 So I'm going to go with the fake raisor Ramone. So I've said 238 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:07.279 the fake Diesel, so it's only fair I say the fake Raise Ramone. 239 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:15.359 Now the nine thing about this is Raised Ramone. Actually Scott Hall is the 240 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.839 Raised Ramone character is one of my favorite characters, like one of my favorite 241 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:26.400 wrestlers. He'd been my top five all time favorite wrestlers. And then when 242 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.559 you get a cheap knockoff like this, when Scott All and Keery Nash leave 243 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.160 the w F to go to WCW, you get a cheap knockoff like this 244 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:45.440 who tries to impersonate the bad guy Raise Ramone and fails doing so. And 245 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:51.599 I get why they tried to do it, just mainly just to hit back 246 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:57.359 at Scott All and Keery Nash. But let's be honest, it didn't work. 247 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:06.640 It was doomed from start. And I mean he wasn't very good either. 248 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:11.119 He was played by Rick Bogner, who is no longer with us, 249 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:19.640 passed away on September twenty, twenty nineteen. But as far as the character 250 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:26.200 goes the fake Ragier Amone, I mean he had he had a few matches. 251 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.839 I mean he lasted a couple of years, I think ninety six to 252 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:37.599 ninety seven, so I mean a whole year of fakeness. And again he 253 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.519 was in Royal Umbulls. I remember him in royal mumbles as well. I'm 254 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:48.960 pretty sure I've seen Stone Cold beat him up in in one of them, 255 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:55.240 maybe the ninety seven one. But yeah, it's just like, what was 256 00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:03.039 they thinking, really, what do you think about him? Well? I 257 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:07.359 think he would have had a better chance if they wouldn't have put him as 258 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:11.720 Raser Ramone, if they was come up with a new character, or maybe 259 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.680 just had him go out as Rick as himself, kind of like how Mick 260 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.640 Foley was when he was in TNA. Then it could have worked a little 261 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.799 bit better. But not as Razor Razor Ramone. That was Scott Paul. 262 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.480 There is no replacement for somebody who's personified a character so well, giving you 263 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:36.279 great promos, great vignettes, and we still quote him to this day. 264 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:42.799 I mean on the show, I've heard Rocky himself quote Raiser Ramone and his 265 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:51.240 famous quote about good guys last. And you know that still kind of hangs 266 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.559 and looms over us a little bit. We still you know, I still 267 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:57.960 see it pop up on Facebook once in a great while, fake Razor. 268 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:02.319 He was in a terms just because hey, we're still on the rates of 269 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:07.039 the character, we should use them anyways, And it just wasn't going to 270 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.079 work from the beginning. That was doomed from the start, between both him 271 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:12.240 and the fake Diesel, and I kind of feel bad for him. I 272 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:18.000 think they could have did him better by just giving him something else. Any 273 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:26.799 last thoughts on him, Yeah, I agree with you, Like, it's 274 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:32.079 a shame that that too, he had to portray and try and impersonate. 275 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:37.799 He was never going to work. It was Scott Hall's character. It was 276 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:42.759 his gimmick. He pretty much. I think did EP gave Scott all the 277 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:48.559 idea. I think if I remember correctly, I could be wrong, but 278 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:55.400 either way, like it was never going to work with someone else trying to 279 00:24:55.440 --> 00:25:00.799 play it, especially as you said, when you say about masks and unmasked. 280 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.079 At least if you've got a mask on and your body is similar to 281 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:12.160 the guy who originally portrayed it, then people won't notice as much. But 282 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:17.519 when you can see their face and you can clearly see it's not the same 283 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:25.440 guy and the original guys in the other company is kind of silly. Really. 284 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.880 Oh, I totally agree, man. I mean, like, if 285 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.000 you guys listen to my sincar, especially, you know how I feel about 286 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:41.000 the fact that they took his character put it on a pornico just because well, 287 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.640 they didn't have a Sincara for the moment. They decided to use them 288 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.759 differently, and basically, once Sincara did come back, you know how things 289 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:55.920 went if you listened anyways. So next one on my list racked a man 290 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:03.799 O God that was such heat terrible, terrible idea. They decided to try 291 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.279 to rip off Spider Man. Basically, guys, if you look him up, 292 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.559 it is such a clear and obvious copy. It is terrible. I 293 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:18.279 do not recommend anything be ripped off so easily. And apparently the company got 294 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.839 sued for a little bit because Marvel did not want them using Spider Man's likeness 295 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:30.920 because it was too too obvious. I don't really understand how they thought they 296 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.359 could get away with that, besides the fact they changed the colors a little 297 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:40.319 bit too. I believe it was purple and yellow and man, why this 298 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:44.960 is just one of those that I guess maybe it could have worked if Spider 299 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:51.720 Man didn't exist, but it doesn't make sense. I mean, he was 300 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.279 in the ring, and I believe at one point he was doing like some 301 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:57.119 of those magic tricks where he'd see like something that looks like webs shoot out 302 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:03.839 of his hands, and man, it just looked Okay, I'll give him 303 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.480 some prop I think. I don't know, man, this was just dumb. 304 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.759 I never saw the point in that, but I'd aggress on that. 305 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.640 Skully. Do you have anything to say about this guy? Do you remember 306 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:21.799 him performing at all? That chance? Only really on videos that I've been 307 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:30.519 watching, like recently. Was his music a Ratna? Man? Man, 308 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.720 do you reckon that was his music? Like? I mean, I haven't 309 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:40.799 even seen his entrance music. I wouldn't do it like it might it might 310 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:45.240 have worked if he swung down from the rafters maybe and climbed the walls. 311 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:49.799 I don't know. It was a terrible idea. I mean, could they 312 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.400 not get a decent costume? If? I mean, like, what is 313 00:27:53.480 --> 00:28:02.559 with these terrible gimmicks with cheap costumes? I mean is like they just made 314 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:07.799 it theirself out of like some cheap fabric, like got one of their kids 315 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:12.519 to make it not even look like an adult made it. I don't know 316 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:19.839 what they were thinking again, Like it was never gonna work, right right, 317 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.680 I mean the first idea of this was maybe they were reading Marvel comics 318 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:26.960 and thought, hey, maybe we can change it just enough. They won't 319 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:32.000 care. No Marvel, they care. They want their money, especially now 320 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:33.640 they're owned by Disney. Disney cares. They're not gonna let you get away 321 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:38.039 with that crap. But anyways, yeah, I digress on that one. 322 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.319 That may have been his entrance views. I honestly I could have seen it, 323 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:47.119 and that could have been probably the best thing they could come up with, 324 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.000 because they probably stole the idea in the first place. Anyways, it's 325 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.000 no wonder they got the cease and desist. All right, back to your 326 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:59.160 list, man, Okay, seeing as you chose him, I'm gonna again, 327 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:06.559 because you said about the fake web thing, I'm gonna have to choose 328 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:15.799 the guy known as Fantasio the Magician the well, I think he was meant 329 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:22.400 to be a magician, But again, what were they thinking? I mean, 330 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.119 I think this would work if it was an actual magician playing the character, 331 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:33.519 like someone who was actually good at magic tricks. But I don't think 332 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:38.839 this guy was. But he was played by dal Rios, not Alberto dal 333 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:47.319 Rios. His actually named Harry dal Rios. And yeah, he when he 334 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:52.480 came as he was meant to be a babyface and he wore like a black 335 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:59.400 and white MEMI mask, which it'd hand to the young fan sitting that ringside 336 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:04.200 a bit like at Heartwood with his glasses, and then he'd have matching face 337 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:11.359 paint underneath, so he'd take the mask off. And yeah, and I'm 338 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.400 pretty sure he only had one match and on on Telly or whatever. And 339 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:22.119 I watched that match, and he thought Tony de Vito, not Danny de 340 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:30.319 Vita, Tony de Vito, and it was really bizarre, like the stuff 341 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:37.480 that was going on. He magically removed the Vitos box are shorts. I 342 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:45.319 mean that was a bit odd. And again he used some like a bit 343 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.559 like a spiderweb, but it wasn't. It was like, I don't know 344 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.119 what it was, but yeah, it was terrible. It looked fake. 345 00:30:52.319 --> 00:31:00.279 He looked rubbish, another cheap prop that didn't work. And yeah, like 346 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:07.480 anyone will care about the character like that. And I hear you. I 347 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.240 think it would have been more entertaining if he was against Stanny Devita. Honestly, 348 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.720 that could have been hilarious and I would have probably watched that match over 349 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.400 and over again. I think I know what you spot you were talking about 350 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.559 with the I want to say, almost like confetti or streamers coming out of 351 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.720 his hand something like that, a trick of that sort, And I think 352 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.480 you're right, it would have been more entertaining if it was an actual magician 353 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.400 in the ring. Come on, how cool would be if David Copperfield just 354 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:38.279 appeared in the ring and actually did something more interesting than most? Can you 355 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:44.359 imagine if all of a sudden it's like he made his opponent disappear instead instead 356 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:48.319 of just his boxer shorts. That's a little once again, I kind of 357 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.920 feel like that was probably in that time of writing where things were going a 358 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.559 little bit more family friendly and they wanted to get to laugh out of the 359 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:02.480 kids. Maybe that is probably the only way that I can justify that happening. 360 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.519 The character from what i've heard, scrap pretty quick because once again, 361 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.799 nobody cared. But anyways, so I also want to let you guys know 362 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.920 here in the UK, we're kind of having some really high wind stuff. 363 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:20.319 So you might hear this high pitch sound every once in a while on both 364 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.839 of our ends because we're both getting it kind of you can hear it from 365 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:28.440 our window seals and everything. But i'd digress on that anyways, Scully, 366 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:37.839 do you have any more thoughts on Pantasia, Not really, what else can 367 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:44.440 you say. I'm just glad he disappeared to be honest, his final trick 368 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:50.599 was making his career disappear. Anyways, on to the next guy. So 369 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:58.039 this gimmick I actually grew up seeing and I remember being very confused the entire 370 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:07.119 time at this wrestler did anything. It was Funkasaurus. My god, what 371 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:14.440 the hell was that they had this guy, Brutus Clay. He looked big, 372 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.720 he looked scary, he was even Snoop Dogg's old security guard at one 373 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:25.279 point, and yet they decided to give him a dancing gimmick. I guess 374 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.599 it's not the worst thing that could have happened. Yes it was. It 375 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.119 was the worst thing that could have potentially happened. I am scarred for life 376 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.480 after seeing that. Over so many years they brought in. I believe it 377 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:42.480 was Naomi and Cameron Worthy dancing girls that joined him at a certain point. 378 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.960 And I believe Naomi now known as a god. I believe she's known by 379 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.119 Trinity now in TNA. I guess at least it gave her a little bit 380 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.319 of a rise in her career. She's become a pretty good wrestler. I 381 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.880 will say so, I'm glad for that, But Brutus Clay, I'm not 382 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.839 going to say that it was like a waste of his talent or anything, 383 00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.079 because you've actually moved on to nWay and he's done better things. But man, 384 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.719 what was going on? Was this a punishment gimmick or something? Man, 385 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:19.159 I don't understand this one at all. You had this huge dude and 386 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.079 you decided to even a dancing gimmick. Can I believe even had an extended 387 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:30.400 spot at WrestleMania. What was going on here? I don't understand. You 388 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:36.559 want to have a wrestling company and you want to portray like, oh yeah, 389 00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:38.599 this guy's a real, real tough dude. Of first he's going to 390 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:42.840 dance in front of you. This makes no sense. Man, Scully, 391 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.880 I know you've seen him at some point. Please tell us about your experiences 392 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:55.760 and your trauma from Funkosaurus. Somebody call my mama. Somebody call my mama. 393 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:07.000 It was terrible. We come out. He looked like like a big 394 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.039 version of the Godfather, really didn't. He like a big himp sort of 395 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:17.719 thing with his red at He's a red jacket, fake added ass jacket. 396 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.880 Or was it a real added ass jacket? I can't remember. But for 397 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:32.679 a big guy, he looked good. But that Gimmick certainly did not look 398 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:39.639 good come down dancing. But looking at him, looking at him without all 399 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:46.159 that rubbish, you see why he went on to better things as Tyrus in 400 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:51.599 the n w A. But I don't know why they thought that would be 401 00:35:51.639 --> 00:36:00.039 good at six foot seven guy coming out dancing with two women by his side. 402 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.559 And don't get me wrong, you weren't you weren't. Heain't a bad 403 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.800 wrestler at all. He was quite easy all right in the ring. But 404 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:16.960 yeah, I don't see why, ifore it would work or why. I 405 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:23.360 guess it was another fincement man Gimmick, would new agree? Oh definitely, 406 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:27.039 man, And I like how you said that about he kind of just looked 407 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.239 like a bigger version of the Godfather. I never noticed that until now, 408 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.239 now that I think about it. You're right, that is the most dead 409 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.239 on thing that I have ever thought about. Now that you've put that in 410 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:42.360 my head, Holy crabs, Going all right, onto the next one, 411 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:50.559 Man, who's next on your list? Dude? Who should I have next? 412 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:59.079 I'm gonna go with because one of the members. So this is at 413 00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:05.079 one person. This isn't two people, this is five. And I'm going 414 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:12.760 to go with this group because as well, like most recently, Nick Nammuth 415 00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:22.039 aka Dolf Ziegler just debuted in TNA. And but when he first came in, 416 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:29.159 he was part of a group known as the Spirit Squad. And I 417 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:35.719 mean, how scary would you be if a bunch of cheerleaders men cheerleaders run 418 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.039 down the ring to beat you up. I'm sure you will be really intimidated, 419 00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:44.480 and you'd be really scared and you jump over the ropes and run away 420 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:51.679 through the crowd, said no one ever. But yeah they had I remember 421 00:37:52.880 --> 00:38:00.119 they feuded with d X Triple H and sure Michaels so to be Fat had 422 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:07.440 quite the feused it with quite a big few names, especially for how it's 423 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.880 how about the gimmick was? I mean, what do you remember about it? 424 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.920 Okay, the Spirit Squad, I remember they were allowed kind of annoying, 425 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.920 and I guess that may have been a way for them to give some 426 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.119 cheap heat or to get some cheap heat, I guess I should say, 427 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:29.320 but realistically, that's another one of those where you just look at it and 428 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:34.559 you just go whose ideal was this? I can't see that being any sort 429 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:40.920 of a dynasty like Evolution or the Nation of Domination or DX at any point 430 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:45.079 in their career. I mean, at least one of them made a career 431 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:51.360 out of it and he's still doing well. I was always, you know 432 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:55.159 what, I liked Dolf Ziegler while he was RWWE, and with everything going 433 00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.320 on TNA, I look forward to what he has to offer. But whatever 434 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.960 that was, at the time, it just seemed like, all right, 435 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.320 we're gonna take these five guys. They might be potentially the best week out 436 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.280 that just came through this new recruiting class. We're just gonna shotgun them in 437 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:15.800 and hope for the best, is what It kind of seemed like. I 438 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:23.039 really don't like the gimmick. I never really did, And thinking about it, 439 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:30.639 You're right, who would be intimidated by that? Who relates to that? 440 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:37.360 Besides maybe some collegiate cheerleaders. It just makes no sense. I'm I'm 441 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.159 at a loss here, man. All right, do you have any closing 442 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:47.360 thoughts on the Spirit Squad? I mean, can you believe it that they 443 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.519 beat Big Show and Kane for the type team titles Big Show and Kane, 444 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:58.039 but the well two of them did. I mean, it's any fad I 445 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:05.199 name as well. Let's name the members Kenny, Mikey, Johnny, Mitch, 446 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:12.199 and Nicky. I mean even their names are scary, the individual names. 447 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.559 I'm really scared of Johnny and Mitch. I mean, I better run, 448 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:22.239 I better go and hide under the ring before they come down and hit 449 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:28.480 me with their pomp poms and sing some cheerleading songs about me. I mean, 450 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.679 it wasn't going to work. It wasn't going to be scary. I 451 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.480 mean, I can't say it wouldn't work, because it did work for a 452 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.679 bit, But my point is it weren't going to work long term. And 453 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:47.199 Dolf Zigler Nick Nemuth is the one, the only one really who lasted around. 454 00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:53.159 I mean Kenny had a little go after remember him being on SmackDown for 455 00:40:53.199 --> 00:41:02.320 a while. But other than that, yeah, they went great. All 456 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.440 right, I just got one quick question for you before we move on to 457 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:10.639 my next guy. Did you ever see the kid's movie Hoodwinked? Because I 458 00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:16.559 remember there was a part in it that near the end, the main villain 459 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.280 finally reveals himself and everything and he starts going through all of his henchmen and 460 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:22.920 telling him what to do. When he gets to warm him, he goes, 461 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.880 Keith, Damn, change your name, man, it's not scary Keith, 462 00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.760 watch out for Keith. That's all that I can think of with everything 463 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.199 that we just talked about. But all right, so next on my list 464 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.159 the Shockmaster, the guy who we could have probably called him a stormtrooper because 465 00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:45.039 he actually wore a stormtrooper helmet and even worse it was been dazzled and he 466 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:51.360 crashed through a wall for his tabut and the helmet came off. Now, 467 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:59.920 the person behind the mask was actually a very good wrestler, very talented, 468 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:05.519 very respected, but this character, they gave him a goofy voice, probably 469 00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.760 one of the goofiest gimmicks possible, and it is going to always be remembered 470 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:15.920 as one of the funniest debuts that you could ever see. Where he just 471 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:20.559 shoots through that wall, those fake bricks, You see them go flying, 472 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.440 you see him trip over it, he falls on his face in that mask. 473 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:29.840 Well, the helmet itself just falls off, and that is the most 474 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:34.159 memorable thing about him, sadly, and maybe the fact that later on they 475 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.880 kind of brought it back as the super shock Master. I don't know what 476 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.840 they were trying to do with that necessarily, besides maybe try to use the 477 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.840 character a little bit more, because I don't know, they probably already owned 478 00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.599 the rights and decided, what we can't afford to make up anything else right 479 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.599 now, let's try to add a little bit more to this other thing and 480 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:59.519 maybe it'll get over. But as we all know, it went nowhere because 481 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:05.320 what was there? Nobody cared. It is funny though they decided, well, 482 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.679 we got this movie prop helmet, what if we been tasseling. I 483 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.199 think it's super shiny for everyone you see, and then maybe it'll work. 484 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.079 Yeah, that's really scary. The dazzled Stormtroopers, Scully, I know you 485 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:25.199 have to remember this talk about Buddy. I remember the big, littery, 486 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:32.679 sparkly helmet, and I remember him walking through the paper walls and falling through 487 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:40.159 it and falling on his but and his helmet falling off, and him looking 488 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:46.679 like a clown. Well not literally, but he looked pretty silly. And 489 00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.360 I don't know why they thought this character would work. But again, it's 490 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:59.079 more entertaining than the Stormtrooper. But that's that's all the props I can give 491 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:06.800 it totally fair man. You know, I wonder if they could have potentially 492 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.440 led to Darth Paige for making an appearance as well. Maybe just the whole 493 00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:12.639 Star Wars cast could have been a part of it. Maybe they would have 494 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.280 had some sort of weird version of Jedi that wouldn't have made any sense for 495 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:20.039 some reason. W c W would have said, that's it, that's what 496 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.840 we need, all right. I digress on that onto your next one there, 497 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:35.400 Skully. So my next one, I'm gonna choose Dave Sullivan. So, 498 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:42.440 Dave Sullivan, the dyslexic brother of Kevin Sullen, who regularly mispronounced his 499 00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:49.159 own full name as Evard. I mean, it reminds me a bit of 500 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:54.960 Eugene, a little bit like, but I think Eugene was more successful, 501 00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.840 and obviously it was the years later. I didn't see how this was going 502 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:07.960 to work. I mean, apparently he hated hult Cogan, but yet he 503 00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:19.280 sort of dressed like him, if that makes sense. So like at first 504 00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:23.920 he was his biggest fan, well, Dave Sullivan was his biggest fan, 505 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:30.880 Hult Cogan's biggest fan, but Kevin hated hult Cogan, so and then therefore 506 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:37.039 it would make sense to make some weird finger on between the three of them. 507 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.519 And I don't know. I don't get why they thought this was going 508 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:49.519 to work, But I don't know what you remember about it. Ah. 509 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.559 This is one of those gammikes that I feel like it's just disrespectful in all 510 00:45:52.599 --> 00:46:05.559 honesty to take something that's almost like a disability in a way and then use 511 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.199 that or a just learning disability, I believe, so to use that as 512 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.519 a gimmick and then throw it out there and be like, you know, 513 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:19.639 here we go and basically have this guy get made fun of in promos and 514 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.280 whatnot. It almost feels like you're making fun of everybody that has that. 515 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.960 Do you really think people are going to want to keep tuning into that or 516 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.519 are they going to turn it off and say f that company. I don't 517 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:37.280 see why you would think anybody would really relate to that. In fact, 518 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:44.159 I feel like more people would feel repulsed by that a dyslexic character, Like 519 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.719 if they would have done it right and maybe not made it as comical, 520 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:52.000 Okay, it could have sort of worked. It could have. Or maybe 521 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.400 if they were just took one of their wrestlers and like made it a big 522 00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.079 revealed thing like, oh yeah, he actually has dyslexia, but he doesn't 523 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:00.400 really let it affect him, still doing great things. Look at them. 524 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.440 It would have been a positive thing. And so they made a whole character 525 00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.800 around he's dyslexic and he can't even say his own name. Right, that's 526 00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:15.840 just sad. I really don't like that. But okay, so any closing 527 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:17.480 thoughts on if it's a litle bit, Now that I've got my rant out 528 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:25.039 about that, I totally agree with you. It was disrespectful to like people 529 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:35.360 who actually suffer with dyslexia. I mean, like it's not therefore they got 530 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.880 it. And then here they are making up some character pretending he's got it 531 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:46.639 and pretending to be the biggest fan of whole Cogan and then pretending to fall 532 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.880 in love with Kimberly and then have a feud with Diddp. I mean, 533 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.519 like what the hell is that? I mean, like, why did they 534 00:47:54.559 --> 00:48:02.400 think this would work? I'm not so twised eventually left because it was never 535 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:07.280 going to be a long term thing, like we've established with a lot of 536 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:13.480 these gimmicks. I mean, imagine like one of these people who we spoke 537 00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.719 about becoming like the face of the company, the champion, who was never 538 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.000 going to work with it. So what is the point of all of these 539 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:29.320 characters who've spoke about agreed man? So because you brought up that character, 540 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.559 I'm going to bring up a character that he didn't last very long at all. 541 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:39.679 So this gimmick was actually Jim Knightheart in a mask from what I've heard, 542 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:46.840 and the character's name was who that was it? And the whole point 543 00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.639 was so that while he was wrestling, there could be a bunch of dumb 544 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:57.599 jokes from the commentary table. So you had Vince and I believe Jerry Lawler's 545 00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.920 going back and forth with a bunch of dad jokes about who who who Who? 546 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:07.119 Yeah who? That's all it really was. This. I don't even 547 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:13.119 know what to describe this gimmick as besides what the whole point was. It 548 00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.519 was a joke. There's nothing else to it, and honestly, it wasn't 549 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:21.079 going to go anywhere. This is just one of those that didn't even deserve 550 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.159 the screen time. Put a mask on Jim Knightheart and just make a bunch 551 00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:29.920 of bad jokes, which I'm all for dad jokes, but come on, 552 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:35.559 man, that was just bad idea? Whose idea was this? Scully? 553 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:44.760 Do you know who? What? When? Why? Who are you on 554 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:54.079 about? Sorry? Yeah, exactly who? But yeah, I digress. 555 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.880 I think there's not really much to be said about this guy, but I 556 00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.400 just wanted to throw him in because that's one of my least favorite gimmicks that 557 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:06.039 has happened. So on the next one, Scully, let's get through. 558 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:16.800 Yeah, well, this one was very awkward, very dodgy, very what's 559 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:24.159 the word very cringey? Beaver cleavage, I mean, what was they thinking? 560 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:30.239 So headbangers Frashier and Mosh, who were a successful tag team. I 561 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:35.519 mean I went a fan of them as such, but there was a successful 562 00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:42.159 tag team and then Fresher get to knee injury, so they decide to make 563 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:53.480 Mosh be this weird obsessed, fetish mom loving weird though, and yeah it 564 00:50:53.559 --> 00:51:00.039 was really weird, Like did our exchange sexual INNDROS? I mean, I 565 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:06.559 mean missus cleavage his so called mother would offer Beaver some mother's milk when he 566 00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:13.119 complained that his cereal was dry. I mean, he really didn't last long 567 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:19.719 at all. I think it was quickly scrapped. I mean, I don't 568 00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:23.079 know why they thought it was a good idea. But on that note, 569 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:30.480 I also heard that fincer Man wanted to do speaking of this sort of topic, 570 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:37.920 fince that Man wanted to do some weird thing with Stephaniemmn, his own 571 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:44.119 daughter. I also read so rich. I'm glad they didn't do that because 572 00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:52.239 this was bad enough. Okay, lord, I I don't even think I 573 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:57.119 want to know what he wanted gimmick wise with his daughter. That just sounds 574 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:04.960 strange. But gimmick was a disaster, and I'm glad that they figured out 575 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:10.039 very quickly it was not going well and nobody liked it. And I believe 576 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.840 I also heard that after that gimmick went down, they also came up with 577 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:20.599 another gimmick for the member of the Headbangers that you're talking about, where they 578 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:30.320 decided, okay, let's give you almost like a abusive relationship sort of gimmick, 579 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:37.400 And apparently that ended with finding out that the woman in the relationship with 580 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:39.719 him was actually lying and he never did hit her, but she was faking 581 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.320 it and like putting on makeup to make it look like she had black eyes 582 00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:50.239 and everything from him. But both of those gimmicks, what the heck were 583 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:54.840 they doing? Why whose idea was it to just say, Okay, we're 584 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:59.000 gonna give you this really awkward one, man, can you handle it? 585 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:00.079 And then as soon as they back after, it's like, hey, that 586 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.840 didn't really work so well? How about this one instead? Do you think 587 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.679 you can handle this one? Both just as bad? Well, the first 588 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:14.920 one definitely worse. Why would you want an incest sort of gimmick on your 589 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:21.159 TV, even for like Attitude? That's really no, that's beyond weird for 590 00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.239 Attitude. I don't even know what time period that would fit into. I 591 00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:28.159 don't think if it's in any time period. That's just strange. And then 592 00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.639 to go from there to the abusive relationship gimmick that he ended up in. 593 00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.280 I guess that one kind of worked more for Attitude ere I could see it 594 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.599 happening, but maybe not the way that they did it, you know what 595 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:45.039 I mean? Man, I mean it could have worked, just not the 596 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.760 way that they played it out. To have the fake abuse thing spouse is 597 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:55.760 actually lying and then change things up. I guess that could have panned out 598 00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.800 a little bit better, but god, different cleavage. That's a that's a 599 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:05.760 rough one, dude. But all right, So last one on my list 600 00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:12.920 Moppy, Oh, poor Perry Saturn, this dude. So from what I've 601 00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:17.199 heard, this whole thing was a punishment gimmick, and sadly it was the 602 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.920 gimmick that got him the most over in w W, even though he was 603 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:25.320 very, very talented, and the man had to pretend he fell in love 604 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:31.440 with a mop? Do I need to say more? How low in your 605 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.639 career can you go than pretending to be in love with you the mop? 606 00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:43.760 I understand it was a punishment, but man, that is rough. Can 607 00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:45.239 you imagine you go to your job and your boss is like, hey, 608 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:51.159 man, you really messed up last week. You have to pretend to be 609 00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:52.639 in love with that broom over there. That's all your fault. You have 610 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.920 to dance with it, you have to love it, you have to kiss 611 00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.199 it. Who's sixth sense of humor besides Vince's could come up with us? 612 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:05.039 That is. It's cruel and unusual punishment, in my opinion, and I 613 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:09.519 absolutely just hate that they did it to him. He went into it wholeheartedly. 614 00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:14.920 At least he tried. I'll give him that, but man, maby, 615 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.719 I just hated that. Scully. I think you probably remember MAPI more 616 00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.440 than I do. And you probably know more about Perry Saturn than I do 617 00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:28.960 as well, So take the reins, my friend, let's get through it. 618 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:36.519 Yeah, Perry sat In a very good wrestler, did good in w 619 00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:45.079 CW. Comes to the WW with the Malnka and Eddie Guerrero obviously and Benore 620 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:52.519 and yeah, at first it was all good, and then, as you 621 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:58.320 said, he got punished apparently, and then he asked to pretend he loves 622 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.920 him. I mean, the mop had a cute little face on it, 623 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.599 and he'd sit with it, he is, breakfast with it, and then 624 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:13.159 probably I don't know, clean the floor with it and then go and dance 625 00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.840 to it. I don't know. But it was weird, but it was 626 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:22.039 quite popular. The weird thing was he did quite well with it and it 627 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:27.280 did actually get a reaction, and like these other ones we spoke about, 628 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.679 but yeah, it was. It was this terrible idea for someone so talented 629 00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:40.320 as Perry Saturn. And I believe he's had some demons recently for a while 630 00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:45.280 and he's I think he's trying to get over that in real life. But 631 00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:50.840 yeah, that was just maybe keep streaming of a mop. I don't know, 632 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:57.639 but I don't know a bit like El Snow and the Head. I 633 00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:02.239 don't know why they thought it was a good idea. I mean, also 634 00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:07.480 when the Head did kind of well, I mean, the demographic definitely got 635 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:09.079 behind it, and it was definitely better than his prior gimmicks. If you 636 00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:15.199 guys don't know about his gimmicks before that WWE, they were kind of rough. 637 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:21.360 But all right, so mappy man that was I just hate that they 638 00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.639 really gave that to them, But hey, he got over with it. 639 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:29.440 But anyways, all right, do you know toy story saying that do you 640 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.079 reckon? They got four K? They got the idea for four ky for 641 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:37.920 Moppy and it's a fork and a But they put a little face on the 642 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:43.199 foot, didn't they? Scully your genius be right, you might be onto 643 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:46.440 something. Can you imagine they were watching w W and they thought let's use 644 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:52.559 that. Yeah, later it finally comes into effect. All right, man, 645 00:57:52.000 --> 00:58:00.800 bring it home. Let's end this one, okay, So last and 646 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:13.440 making our twentieth is it our twentieth? Name is Kerwin White. I mean, 647 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.519 I don't know why they did this, but as we all know, 648 00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:29.079 Chavo Guerra related to Eddie Gerra, his nephew they had a great career as 649 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:38.599 the lost Guerrero's. Obviously, Chavo went from face to heal Healed's face. 650 00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:45.960 But then they decided that he should have a new gimmick and he was called 651 00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:51.000 Kerwin White. And I don't know why they thought this would be a good 652 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:59.039 idea. I mean, after he was battered by the Mexican faction, the 653 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:08.159 Mexicos, he changed his personal to occurring white, a stereotypical middle class white, 654 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:15.119 conservative Anglo American man. He dyed his hair blonde, and he drove 655 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:19.480 a golf cart to the ring, which had golf clubs in the back. 656 00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:27.000 Obviously, and soon after he made his date debut, he started making suggestive 657 00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:32.800 remarks towards African Americans, Hispanics, Asian Americans, Native Americans, and other 658 00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:39.800 non week white people, specifically directed towards Shout and Benjamin. So basically he 659 00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:47.440 was a racist character. He even thought about being in the Ku Klux Klan 660 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:53.519 and stupid things like that. He hired we spoke about him earlier. He 661 00:59:53.599 --> 01:00:01.920 hired Dolfzigler aka Nick Nemmuv at some point help him in these matches as his 662 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:15.159 caddy. But yeah, I don't think having a racist on TV was going 663 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:20.679 to end, well, what did you think of Kerwin White? Kerwin White's 664 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:25.800 character? How do I put this? I guess maybe they thought this could 665 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:34.079 be a way to get heat from anybody who was maybe just looking past the 666 01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.639 heel character that he personified, because let's be real, man, he was 667 01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.639 a pretty good heel for a long time. I mean, I have some 668 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:44.320 respect for him as a heel. Even when they gave him some kind of 669 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:49.320 crappy matches and everything and made his gimmick more or less of a joke, 670 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.000 he still kind of held on and still did what he felt he needed to 671 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:55.760 do, and he still went in the ring and did his thing. But 672 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:04.239 man, Herwin White, just that he denounced his heritage and decided he was 673 01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:10.199 white. That's just dumb. I have no other real words or insight on 674 01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:19.440 it. Besides, you took what's kind of personifying him in the ring because 675 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.519 he obviously has that a Guerrero heritage going for him. That's a huge deal. 676 01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:27.079 And you're just gonna say, yeah, he doesn't want to be associated 677 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:30.599 with that anymore. He's gonna be you know, he's gonna act like he's 678 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:36.480 just a straight white guy now and be the very stereotypical, rich white boy 679 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:44.039 type of stereotype. I'm not entirely sure whose idea that could have been. 680 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:45.679 You know, maybe it was his own, and maybe he just thought, 681 01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:49.760 you know, this could be funny to make fun of. Whoever. But 682 01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.559 you know what, it's in the past. I'm glad that it's staying there. 683 01:01:54.199 --> 01:02:00.079 I hope no character could be even close to that. Ever. Again, 684 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:06.239 all right, Scully, we're at our twenty, so you have any 685 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:13.199 closing costs for us? Man, Well, this was quite fun. I 686 01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:19.639 was gonna say one little quote about Chavo Guerra what you pitched to Fince, 687 01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:27.280 But I think we've said everything we need to say now. Yeah, this 688 01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.679 was a fun episode. I mean, we've got to speak about the childish, 689 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:37.760 pathetic, silly, and there's no there's no army in being silly as 690 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:46.159 long as it's entertaining. And I don't think most of these was totally agree 691 01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:52.760 man. I mean, there's a certain line between comedy and just not good 692 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.840 ideas. Man. I mean, You're can have Hornswail, you can have 693 01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:02.800 Santino Morella, you can have many comedy wrestlers that knew what they were doing, 694 01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:08.400 but a lot of these guys. Man, it just looked bad or 695 01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:13.519 it just wasn't a good idea from the start. But anyways, so if 696 01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:16.440 you guys enjoyed this, I highly recommend you guys also go over and go 697 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:22.519 to the Wrestle Lania YouTube channel. They had a video covering this very well 698 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:27.280 with I believe a hundred of just the worst gimmicks in wrestling history. So 699 01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.119 highly recommend you got to give a shout out to them, because this is 700 01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:34.639 honestly where some of the inspiration came from with this not gonna lie. I 701 01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.760 saw the video and we started talking about it more and we thought let's try 702 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:43.159 it ourselves and let's just explain it for the viewers. But uh, all 703 01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:46.440 right, so any closing thoughts, any shout outs you want to give their 704 01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:55.280 stilly just the big shout out to everyone and listens to the ww podcast and 705 01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:09.119 Wrestle Magic of course, because obviously without the listeners we don't have anything to 706 01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:15.519 talk about. I mean, listeners are important, and obviously we love wrestling. 707 01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:21.639 The listeners love wrestling, and it's great to talk about it. I 708 01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:26.360 agree with you more man, all right, So how can they reach you 709 01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:31.320 if they want to get a hold of you, man, you can if 710 01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:35.079 you want to, it's up to you. You can follow me on X 711 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:43.880 or Twitter whatever it's called at Michael Scully eighty six. So at Michael Scully 712 01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.800 eighty six, just give me a follow if you want. My dms are 713 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:51.800 open if you want to talk about wrestling, and yeah, you can let 714 01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:58.760 us know how you thought about this episode, what me and MAV spoke about. 715 01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:04.559 And I'm sure that would be penning you of us to come absolutely my 716 01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:09.440 friend. So all right to close this out. Yeah, I gave the 717 01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:14.320 recommendation on that YouTube video. If you guys want to reach me, just 718 01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:17.119 at maintenance MeV on X or Twitter, whatever you guys want to call it. 719 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:21.119 This point, I don't really care what it is. Do something nice 720 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:25.960 for somebody you never know who needs it. And uh, with that the 721 01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:34.119 words of maintenance Mark, I'm out. Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. 722 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:40.079 Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a 723 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:45.440 show, or head to WWE podcast dot com and for all of these shows 724 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:50.400 add free head over to Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. Until then, 725 01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:53.960 we'll see you next time.