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Coming up this week on the Mark
Cast, Happy NFL Draft week everyone.

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While the rest of the world tracks
the future prospects of the NFL, the

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XFL or USFL. Here coming up
in the near future, we here are

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still talking spring football. It's XFL
playoff weekend. In the words of the

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ruthless ruler of Dulock, Lord fire
Quad, let the tournament begin. Some

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of you made on when it's a
sacrifice. I am willing to make the

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tournament begin. That's right. A
Shrek reference here. In twenty twenty three,

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the gym more one's kind of played
out. Playoffs. Playoffs, we'll

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talk about playoffs. You're kidding me. Playoffs. That's kind of played out

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here. So we are talking tournament
football here with the XFL. First up

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on the show, we have Emery
Hunt, busy guy with the draft week

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and everything else. Emry is coming
on to preview everything XFL playoffs as well

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as USFL Week three. I feel
like this is going to be a game

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where DC shows that they're the most
complete team on both sides of the ball.

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Now they have to stay locked in
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other game. This is a one
game season, and I feel like they'll

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take care of business against Seattle,
and then returning to the program, we

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have Tom Lugain Bill here kind of
a retrospective what did we do right,

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what did we do wrong? In
XFL three point out, and then looking

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forward towards the XFL playoffs. This
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ages. I actually think this is
the championship game. I do. I

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think these are the two best teams, two of the hottest teams. It's

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interesting because I do think Seattle has
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know a lot of people are going
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as the MVP, and maybe statistically
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best overall player in the league's not
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watched them on the sidelines all season. Tebuck, we have Terrell Buck,

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league coach of the Orlando Guardians,
stopping by. Extended talk with Terrell.

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I really appreciate his time. Just
the opportunity was an a plus. Obviously,

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execuse Foods one in nine got off
to one of the worst starts that

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that you can imagine. I can
even picture at changing the roster. Some

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of the details on how the makeup
of the team and the expectations and all

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those things we really didn't get correct. We corrected a majority of that probably

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after week four and we started to
play obviously a lot better and was in

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a lot of games, so very
very exciting and learning experience, growth opportunity

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for me, a very big growth
leap. So it was good. It

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was good. Hope you guys enjoyed
the episode. Like and subscribe. Hey

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guys, welcome to the Mark Cast. Read here. Busy week this week

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everything, like I said, off
the top with the NFL Draft, a

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lot of regulars or maybe potential people
that I was trying to get on this

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week busy with the NFL Draft.
I still think we have a tremendous show

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for you. A three blockbuster guest. We'll look to get some more ratings.

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Talk with some of our normal sports
business people next week. Like I

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said, a lot of them tied
in with the NFL Draft this week.

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Also want to get more CFL stuff
we were I was kind of debating doing

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the CFL Draft show with going to
DC and everything. I don't know if

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that's going to be possible for the
playoffs. We will be doing this CFL

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Draft the post talk. I already
have guests lined up for that next week,

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so we'll be getting back to more
CFL stuff as well. Just busy

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with work and then balancing cheering for
the crack in and getting all the XFL

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and USFL stuff. So we'll work
towards that. But I know a lot

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of the players are headed out of
Arlington and coaches and stuff, and so

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I appreciate obviously coach trub Buckley coming
on, and the Guardians is always,

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but we'll look towards that. Just
a weird week with the draft and everyone

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kind of leaving Arlington, but three
tremendous guests. Like I said, Emory

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Hunt coming on, busy guy getting
ready at Emory. I'm like, Emory,

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am I crazy to even ask you
to come on this week? And

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he goes, oh no, that's
fine, happy to come on. So

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appreciate Emory, and then obviously Tom
Lugabell making time as well between his radio

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hits, and then trub Buckley.
That's going to do it for me today.

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I will be in DC this weekend
for the playoff game. I have

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a ticket over in the beer snake
sections, so I've already had some people

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DM happy to meet up. I'll
be flying in a Saturday night and then

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hanging out all day Sunday and flying
out Monday. I know listener Seth is

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going to be around as well,
so I'll be at the bar somewhere drinking

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before and then we'll be at the
game hanging out. Look for a Monday

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recap show. We're trying to figure
out. I think Evan Wilsmore is going

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to be coming on, so we'll
figure out the timing of all of that,

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and then, like I said,
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do the CFL Draft show a live
stream, but at least we'll do post

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draft coverage here next week as well. Like to subscribe, you know two

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tickets you get them to the USFL
Championship game if you want. When we

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hit thirty five subscribers, thank you
all for your support. Like I said,

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did my best this week. Hope
you guys enjoy. We'll see at

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the end well in a busy week. I certainly appreciate Emory Hunt taking the

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time here back on. I'm trying
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on talking and I think pre XFL. But we have Emory Hunt back on.

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How are you doing, sir,
doing fine. Read man, I

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appreciate you having me on and again
love the show. I'll watch religiously.

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Man, your show is great for
the trip mill. I'll tell you that.

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I trying to keep it long.
Sometimes my wife says, how many

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guys you have on this week?
So we have every here. We're talking

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able to get USFL as well talking
in the big XFL playoffs, you know,

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the C Dragons. I'm gonna be
there. I have my I'll be

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in the beer snake section. I
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Whether you make just overall XFL thus
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you? It's been great, man. You know, I'm glad they were

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able to put the cleats in the
grass, football in hand and get out

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there and give it a go.
Now we have another spring league that was

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able to finish the season. Knock
on wood, nothing that's gonna happen.

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They'll finish this one as well.
But I love it. You know.

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I was religiously watching every week,
you know, whenever there was a game,

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because again, you got to be
locked into these spring leagues. We

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as media and pundits and journalists and
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We can't expect the public to show
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and every week. Has it.
Has XFL done a good job kind of

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reaching mainstream outside of it If I'm
not someone that's like totally involved in string

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football, not yet, And that's
the next step, I believe, you

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know, in terms of what can
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I feel like the football product takes
care of itself. They're good on

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that part, but it's about making
sure you get that outreach. So in

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a way, it's almost like how
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played in the Hub for one year. No one outside of Birmingham knows about

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the USFL. But now we see
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in their markets, how different it
is when they're living there and you know,

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in that city from a Michigan to
what we're seeing in Birmingham. I

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know they probably had more of a
dip in their attendance. But for the

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XFL, we'll thought, well,
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gonna be cool because they're playing in
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But if you're not living there,
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playing the Hub. So I feel
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for the College Ground, a showcase
in Dallas Fort Work, and I was

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on a flight with a couple of
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training camp or you to the training
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you didn't see anybody talking XFL.
You didn't see anybody any banners hanging

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around. But when you're in the
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and also in Birmingham, it's a
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and I was. We were there
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It did feel like Birmingham was like
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You can't go anywhere here without seeing
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kind of I guess, not concerned, but confused it maybe why or I

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think the XFL could lean more into
that. I know Andy and I talked

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on the show a couple of weeks
ago, like, let's sure they market.

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If you're gonna be in the Hub, let's market that. Yeah,

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God forbid. You let a couple
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I mean, even if you're just
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in terms of the football product.
Has it been up to what you were

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expecting? Yeah? Absolutely, But
we see the same things over and over

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again with a lot of these springleys. I saw this in the USFL last

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year. We saw it in the
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seen it again now in the XFL
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USFL Season two, say, hey, man, play your best players,

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Like for Vegas, Why did it
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is your best option out there.
Let the guy play, Let him out

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there, let him make his mistakes. In growth, the offense looks significantly

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better. You see what happens when
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mistakes. And so I feel like, right at this point, it's not

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a knock on Luis Perez. I
like the guy, but he's probably better

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as a QB two now on a
roster than a starter. So you got

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to give a young guy a chance. Look what Josh Love is doing for

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the Michigan Panthers and his second time
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the team. Familiarity with a lot
of the players on there, and he's

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playing better. We see it with
Kase Cookis and how well he played,

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you know when they went to him
over Brian Scott. A master trying to

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figure out what to Just play your
best players, man, and the especially

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at that position, because everything else
is gonna take care of itself. People

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tuned into XFL twenty twenty because p
J. Walker was lightening up and it

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was like, man, let's let's
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as good as their offense was in
this last game, or you know,

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as great as the story is,
heartwarming story. No one's tuning in to

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check out AJ McCarron period. Like
they want to see the young guy,

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you know, and people want to
see that from these spring leagues. So

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play your best player. I'm not
saying McCarry wasn't their best quarterback. I'm

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just saying, give these young dudes
a chance to play. That's how you

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attract new fans. I think were
you were a critical of the AJ signing,

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right? I think if my memory
serves yeah, because it was like

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he's thirty plus, we know what
he is. I thought this was a

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league of opportunity, right, So
why did not get the young guys in

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there? Man? And granted you
want to have guy you like, guys

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like Aji McCarron because he's here's what
I like about Aji McCarron and playing in

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this league. If he's not going
to be a starter in the NFL,

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fell, we would have known.
We should have known that by twenty seven.

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Then this would have been perfect for
him to play five years and be

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thirty two on the other side of
it, right, instead of waited till

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thirty two and jumping in this league. So now people look at this league,

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like agent mccaron, like, I'm
not watching that, even though you

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won a league for a guy that's
probably not going to be the starter,

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a starter in the NFL to play
somewhere else. So a league like this

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or the USFL would be ideal for
those guys. There is a market for

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that. But you can't go out
and sign guys that people who have seen

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in the NFL at times they've seen
maybe a decade ago in college football.

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That's not gonna work. And I
also feel like a lot of these leagues

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made the same mistake every time they
come out thinking, oh, well,

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we have a team in Orlando,
or we have a team in you know,

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Detroit, let's get a lot of
the players from that college. I'm

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gonna tell you a secret. College
fans do not care about former college stars

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that are not currently playing for their
college team. It's not gonna work,

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Pat Raffinale right now, I'm sure
it's headed seeing with your AJ mccaren smacktick.

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But that was like that was the
story of the XFL this year.

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I mean, I you know,
just to be contrariot the year you say

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no one's watching, like Nave marketed
the crap out of that, Like here's

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AJ and he's playing for his kids
and turned down all this mood. Like

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that was one of the major you
know, football or otherwise storylines coming out

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saying we're seeing now in the USFL
with mc McLeod Bethel Thompson, great story,

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phenomenal, you know, wants to
be by his family. YadA,

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YadA, YadA. Bro, you
gotta quill glass there, who needs experience

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play him? Yeah, let's we've
seen McLeod Bethel Thompson with a great cup,

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fantastic, Like I don't want to
see him playing in this league that

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y'all are saying is developmental, Like, at worst, play the guys and

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if they struggle, go to your
McLeod Bethel Thompson's or your AJ mccameron's and

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let's because otherwise people gonna think,
oh, this is just a league for

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guys that want to playing from their
families. I'm not going to play,

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you know, I need to go. Matter of fact, let me get

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married, to have a couple of
kids, and then I can use that

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story to get into one of these
leagues. Like no, let it be

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about the guys like you Cole Kelly's
guys like you're a quill glass to go

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in there and play, because they're
not getting the opportunity as young talent to

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play in the NFL. So you
go in there as a quill glass or

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a Cole Kelly and you play really
well for a season and now you bounce

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right up. The creamwood rides to
the top and the legal pluck regardless.

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So play the quill glass, play
the case cookers, play your Kyle Sloters,

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you know, and roll with it
like that. Man, don't bring

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the elderly back in. Let the
guys grow into the elderly within your own

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league. How how is my what
are your thoughts about my boy Ben Junichi

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here, carterback for the c Dragons. It's funny because the Nucci is able

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to play through all his mistakes.
It makes you wonder, you know,

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any other quarterback that had the amount
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would have been pulled. But this
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to see him stay out there,
don't go to the backup. Let the

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Nucci play through it and let them
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and then you reevaluate the position in
the off season. So I like the

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decision to stick with him, you
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in in Orlando Dormandy, you know, and and Francoise And it's like,

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man, which guy can get a
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then one guy has six touchdowns,
the next week had six turnovers, and

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it's like, you could have won
that game, But why aren't you playing

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a guy that's younger, You're a
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I'm saying this. There's a lot
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and we don't know that because we're
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the benefit of daily news coming out
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if they were in cities. Hey. Interesting, we were talking today on

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the show at the ecotomy of and
I want to take your thoughts on the

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playoff thing too here. But you
know, people from outraged Saint Louis didn't

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make it, but you have kind
of what it feels to be more of

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a family coach backed. Okay,
we have everything and where we're like living

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and dying. Where Seattle feels a
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right, like we brought and Josh
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Nucci and Jim haslet like, maybe
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you know, and I've been on
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he said, what do you make
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even though every team in the XFL
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is more homegrown than anybody else because
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The fan base, you feel like
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are doing. As opposed to Seattle. You feel like, man, I

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feel like these guys just kind of
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together. And um, it's I
think what people have the dismay because I

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feel like we've constantly seen even though
this is so weird to say this,

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everybody's played on TV, right,
We've seen all the games, but it

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feels like Saint Louis has been on
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everybody has been on TV the same. But so people have connected. The

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nation has connected with Saint Louis,
you know, the whole cause the law.

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inception, since he was announced as
the head coach. So all of that

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buys into why people have followed Saint
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brings the same cachet. But I
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they just have to tweet out beat
us. Last. All you had to

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do is beat us and guess what
we are in the playoffs that didn't happen

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and guess what now you're out looking
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the coaches that didn't make the playoffs, and you know the first year head

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coach isn't you know we got Blackley
and backed and all that, any any

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thought of that and the coaches that
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here. I know back then we'll
get the playoffs, you know with I

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want to hear get your thoughts at
the ceding on that, but thoughts about

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the coach is not making that,
you know, I thought at they started

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to figure it out. And these
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like that they're figuring it out on
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young coach in a Buckley or you
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coach, and you start to see
them figure it out and their teams start

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to play better, which just gets
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able to do that and build on
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hines War start to figure some things
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know, next season, these guys
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better idea of how to manage.
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I think Buckley and Award a little
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was even killed and when you're overly
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to reflect that out there on the
field. That's why they're making mistakes or

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that's why they're afraid to make the
mistakes on the fly. So that's what

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I feel like we should see in
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I think and us I felt like
you could have created a whole show about

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Rod Woodson versus the refs because every
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So I feel like with those guys
having you know, now gotten their first

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year as a hit coach beneath their
belt, next year their teams will be

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much more blocked in, which will
make it competitive across support because it's that

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tough mix. Yeah, because I
think back to portrays a little bit more

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than every man, like I'm one
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It does feel like you still have
that player of mentality like oh come on,

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raff, like come on you,
where's the flag? And I don't

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know what the balance is there.
I mean, obviously all the teams played

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competitively for their coaches, even the
losing team, so I guess you can't

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nippick too much. But was there
any of the coaches that maybe didn't deliver

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in your minds. No, no, I felt like everyone and again,

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first year, I want to go
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just say, hey, man,
I understand this is the first year,

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first time GM coach working together.
You're figuring things out on the flies.

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An unusual situation because you're not in
a home place, you don't have a

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place to call home. You're kind
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is you know, and then you
got to get back on the plane

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with the same team. So there's
a lot going on. So I'm not

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holding anything against any coach. I
just like the fact that coaches seem engaged,

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they seem locked in, they seem
like they want to be there.

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They didn't seem like they checked out. So it was good for me to

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see that week to week from the
XFL are you as outraged as the world

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seems to be about the playoffs and
have the Battot Hawks and the Nest and

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they're seven and three and being somehow
Arlington's in. People are hilarious, like

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we've had divisions in sports since been
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And Saint Louis all they had to
do is beat Seattle, and this would

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be a conversation. You had a
winning and get in situation. Guess what,

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you didn't win and you didn't get
in. So that happens all the

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time in the NFL, where you
got a team that plays earlier in the

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day and does what they're supposed to
do, but the team later in the

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day they need to lose, ends
up playing a game in their life and

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they get out the playoffs. Well, if you would have did what you

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had to do earlier in the season
and not let it come down to this,

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then this wouldn't be a problem.
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It doesn't bother me because hey man, this is how sports work,

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this is how competition works. And
yeah, you have a better record than

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san Antonio, and yeah, san
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their first you know, in the
playoffs. But hey, had you beat

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in Seattle, this wouldn't be a
conversation. See, you don't like them

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thinking that we need to move it
and it needs to be in the top

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two and then points or anything,
because like that's the thing is if they

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would do it a different way,
none of these games wouldn't mattered this weekend,

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right, Like, it's because of
the playoffs situation. That's that's why,

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Because that could have been a nothing
game there Seattle in Vegas or Vegas

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at Seattle here or something that maybe
we should ask Peter King, because if

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Peter King says something, then rules
get changed. If he didn't like that

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Brett fall of Law also against New
Orleans. Next thing, you know,

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everyone should touch the football. He
didn't like that Josh Allen lost to Patrick

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Mahons. Next thing, you know, well, everybody will need a possession

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over time. So maybe Peter King
when he says something, rules get changed

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for whatever whatever team he wants to
win. Looking to hear at the playoffs,

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the more exciting one I think will
be in the North. We'll talk

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about that. But you know,
Arlington at Houston, it feels like Arlington

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has never really found there. You
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What do you make of the South
playoffs? It's the South Playoff and the

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North Playoff to me are the same
thing. So the South Playoff is about

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can Houston stay locked in for sixty
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Because but we saw last weekend should
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nothing will change with the game plan
because there's no threat from the run game

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from Arlington. There's no threat from
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from Arlington. And defensively they do
a great job of applying pressure and turning

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the ball over that to pick six
last game. So this is not gonna

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be a good look for Arlington,
you know what I mean. So for

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me, this is a situation where
it's more about Houston than it is Arlington.

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good defensive players. They do have

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an ability to really slow down an
offense. But if they can't depend on

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their offense to put points up in
the paint and kind of make this a

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game, it's gonna be all for
not. And I feel like that's going

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to be the case again. Houston, you know, has been through it

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trying here, you know, and
Brandon kind of got hurt and everything they

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looked good. Then they can't win
against the North. I mean, it's

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Houston a real presuming they may get
onto the championship game or they're real throughout

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here against ever comes out of the
North. No, they're not because their

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offense is too scattershot. On paper, their offense looks dynamic. You know,

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they can score. They have shown
flashes of brilliance. But quarterback player

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is crucial in these games. And
we've seen over the course of the season,

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those that have had the more consistent
play at quarterback have been the teams

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that have won more more than they
loss and they have ultimately saying Saint Louis

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found themselves in the playoffs and maybe
that would have been different head Aji mccarroon

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now gotten hurt, right, maybe
they would have found a way to win

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more games. Right, So,
I feel like Houston's quarterback play is too

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inconsistent to win against whoever comes out
the North. It's weird to me because

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you know, I love a Jason
had been on the show everyone and talk,

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you know this, you know Wizard
Football everything. Is he just getting

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found out? Is he getting out
coached? Is like? What's going on

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with him? And it seems like
Houston's has kind of had a bunch of

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roadblocks. There are certain times where
you feel like, and this happens in

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you know, the NFL and college
football. I want to say it was

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maybe two weeks ago where they had
a team beat and they went forward on

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fourth down or went forward on thir
day through it like Silver's threw an out

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route and they got picked off and
it was like, why are you throwing

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in that situation? Run the ball
forced that team to use their time out.

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So and this is something that happens
with these guys that left to throw

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the football a lot. You know, they get enamored with their passing game

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and their play calling and miss out
on situational football. So for me,

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it's mostly about they have to tie
up the loose ends. I have no

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problems with the play calling or you
know what you're saying with the play calling

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and how he runs his offense A
J. Smith, But situational football is

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what wins you games. And if
they're not playing great situationally third on offense,

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red zone offense, four minute offense, then they're going to find themselves

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losing. And plus guys also have
to make plays and that falls onto the

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quarterback position. He has to be
consistent and beating pressure, beating the blitz,

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just like he did earlier in the
season when teams wanted to blitz him

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but he was finding he always had
an answer. And if he can get

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back to that, and I feel
like that's something that can help them out.

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They'll have a shot. In terms
of Bob steps and everything. It

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feels like he's kind of made chicken
salad out of everything this year and it's

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just not a great I mean,
do we blame him for assembly maybe a

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subpar team? Do we blame I
mean, what do you put on in

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Arlington? Arlington needs a quarterback and
they have to go into the off season

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and find one. You know,
right now, there's they're not getting any

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production out of the quarterback position.
They're not dynamic at quarterback, they don't

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have the athleticism at quarterback. All
of that needs to change next year because

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there's talent on the roster. But
when you don't have the at least a

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threat of the QB run or you
don't have a game breaker in the backfield,

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there's an issue. So maybe quarterback
and running back or where they have

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to address first. And if they
can answer those questions, there'll be a

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different team. Because again, they
got players on defense. You know,

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they're very strong in my opinion,
they can rush the passer. They had

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a good front point of attack play
up front on a defensive line. But

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offensively, nothing threatens you on offense
outside of the guy on the perimeter,

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but the quarterback has to get it
down the field and for them to really

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take effect. In terms of the
North here Seattle going in. I'm excited.

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I you know, I to me, it's cool that we have to

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kick off there in twenty twenty and
now we kind of have the playoff game

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this year. You know, didn't
you Chi even during an interception at the

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end of the game. You know, we're like, can we just get

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out of this game? Please?
What do you make of this matchup?

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It's gonna be a strength versus strength
battle, right Seattle strength is their ability

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to work touchdown to check down.
They can throw the football vertically down the

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field. DC has a good defense. They're opportunities that can get pressure where

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DC has a problem. And I
was there at the Allington game and witness

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this again firsthand, Like they play
with their food far too often, Like

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they had Allington blown out, And
if you were a Vegas guy, you

407
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.880
know, you just felt like,
oh, this was a comfortable lead.

408
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.759
You know, plus nine and a
half is going to cover and then they

409
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:57.519
just get tired in the last five
minutes of the game and just allow them

410
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.640
to come back and how you find
cells in overtime. Right, So the

411
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:07.400
football side is if DC keeps their
foot on the gas and stays interested for

412
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.079
sixteen minutes throughout the whole game,
then they'll have a They won't have a

413
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.119
problem with Seattle. They can play
the run all the way to the quarterback

414
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.599
and do a good job of shutting
down to Nucci. They know the Nuchi

415
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.240
is gonna give them at least two
opportunities turn the ball over, so they

416
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.200
just have to capitalize. They haven't
really dropped interceptions all season long on offense,

417
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:32.680
probably the perfect blend of utilizing the
two quarterback system, knowing when and

418
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:37.039
where to fit guys in and pull
guys out, as opposed to some scattershot

419
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:44.319
thing that we're seeing now with the
New Jersey Generals with Mike Riley. Let

420
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.359
DeAndre Johnson just get out there and
rock out. Man. You take prew

421
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.640
Coop, you put prew Coop in
at the worst possible time, and your

422
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.200
offense goes non existence for three straight
drives, right, and the other team

423
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.279
gets back in the game. But
I feel like with DC and what they

424
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.559
do, they understand who they are, They get you know, Deerk king

425
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.480
in at the right moments and he's
able to execute at a high level.

426
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.480
Saying for Jordan Tiama, who's played
better this year than he did last year

427
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.240
for the Tampa Bay Bandit. So, I feel like this is gonna be

428
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.359
a game where DC shows that they're
the most complete team on both sides of

429
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:21.160
the ball. Now they have to
stay locked in because there's no you know,

430
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:25.000
no other game. This is a
one game season, and I feel

431
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.839
like they'll take care of business against
Seattle. I just care like I been

432
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.880
playing horrendous the first half of the
game, you know, on Sunday,

433
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.359
and I just really bad, and
I'm like, I'm looking at the silence.

434
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.119
I'm like, what is going on
here? And then you know,

435
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.279
we got to touchdown before half,
and then he comes back and it seems

436
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.319
like, you know, but then
it's sustained. Well, I just it

437
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.680
never feels like he learns anything,
and just we're still out there and we're

438
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:45.920
running, and I think he's I
don't know, if it's like he's a

439
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.359
really emotional player and he gets like
caught up in then you go, I

440
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.279
just I'm very scared if if we're
getting going to continue to give him the

441
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:59.319
weather ball like we have oh you
guys will give away to football. That

442
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.160
has been the most consistent thing everyone. And it's gonna be not just it's

443
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.160
gonna be one way. He's gonna
hold the ball a long and it's gonna

444
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.720
he's gonna fumble, and another one's
gonna be like, Yo, where were

445
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.000
you throwing with that? Like the
dude was like either covered or that dude

446
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.160
clearly has on a DC Defenders uniform. So yeah, it's gonna happen.

447
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.880
It's about when it happens. If
it happens early, not a problem,

448
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.319
but it happens in crunch time you're
in trouble. Yeah, it was like

449
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.359
because and we're trying to do them
out in the stands on how many points

450
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:27.119
we have to win by and then
he give us up to turn them.

451
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.799
I'm like, can we just flean
to get another dutchtownle to just get out

452
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.359
of here? Like it was very
very scary there, very trying times listen.

453
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.880
And first of all, it's hard
to it's hard to hate Seattle because

454
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.680
I've said this, they have the
best uniform out there in the expel.

455
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:48.000
Their uniform is phenomenal, helmet color, scheme. Everything works, so you

456
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.240
want to see them do well because
you keep on to seeing you keep wanting

457
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.559
to see the uniform. But the
play has to catch up right and the

458
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.400
play has to be consistent, and
they only have one more shot to get

459
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.920
it done, and that's this weekend
in the playoffs. I have my replica

460
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.079
Jersey. I think I'm getting ready
to ship it back, getting ready to

461
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.839
getting ready to return that too.
It's just not it's just not up to

462
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.359
snuff. The ones that they put
out right now, I don't know to

463
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.720
me. And it's two Broncos.
It looks like we were at the bar

464
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.880
and I saw a lady and she
had at Philip Lindsay Jersey and it was

465
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.839
I'm like, did she get it? Like? Did she get a custom

466
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.240
like Philip Lindsay Jersey, like from
China this quick? And then she turns

467
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.000
rounds the Broncos jersey. I'm like, of course like that, But I

468
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.039
mean it looks, it looks and
we hate the Broncos here in Seattle,

469
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:36.400
cells right, oh AFC West,
you know Folds. My thing is I'm

470
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.119
you know, I'm a I'm a
mini helmet guy. Can we at least

471
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.720
get the XFLO to sell us many
helmets, like I would buy all eight

472
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:48.039
right now, including the XFL League
helmet um because right now I don't have

473
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:53.519
any XFL helmets. Like make the
mini helmets available on the site easy to

474
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:59.000
do our rack those ate up right
now. If they do that, well,

475
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.079
you know that fair Women of the
League now follows me on Twitter.

476
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:07.920
So maybe maybe we can work outs
at tweeted you too, like listen.

477
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:11.720
Might have to worry, Yeah,
may have to bulls in the shakes there.

478
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.039
See, we can't get miss working
on that before we get out of

479
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:21.039
here. USFL comes back, I
want you know, I'm trying to watch

480
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.799
for what do you make of us
all season two ratings? Ratings, We're

481
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.160
down the week one. I presume
they're going to be down again this week.

482
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.720
Well, to me, it's we
gotta focus. We gotta get people

483
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.400
to focus on the football. In
both the XFL and USFL, we spend

484
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.960
so much time talking about ratings and
crowd attendance. Like focus on the football,

485
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.799
get people talking about that. That's
the real battle. And the football

486
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:48.880
has been solid, but again,
play your best players. Why is DeAndre

487
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.519
Johnson, you know, getting pulled
and being absent for three series. No

488
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.799
less, no figure that out,
man, Like the whole thing was you

489
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.759
had a longer, extended off season
and or you know, training camp,

490
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.240
so you shouldn't have had this issue. And also you guys just play those

491
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.319
guys that are that are like better. Let those guys play, man,

492
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:14.240
Let the young guys play. The
football is still good and it's it's funny

493
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:19.759
to watch like these USFL games,
and you see the benefit of having an

494
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:24.880
extended preseason. Hit the ground running
in Week one. The scores are higher,

495
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:30.240
the competitive balances there, you recognize
guys continuity as king. So now

496
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.039
teams remember fans remember who was on
their team last year. You see the

497
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.440
difference in continuity with Alex McGoo playing
much better this year than he did last

498
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:44.279
year. Uh, you know,
losing Jamar Smith. So now you have

499
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.319
some intrigue. They're like, oh, man, jmar was good last year,

500
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.440
but now Magoo, who's there last
year, has improved. So now

501
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.079
you're starting to see teams half progression. C. J. Marrable is running

502
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.119
better this year than he did last
year. You're seeing Kingston Davis, who

503
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.759
was on the general's roster last year, now getting an opport to the rocket.

504
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:01.960
Now you say, Wow, they
got a really good one to punch

505
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.440
in New Jersey. So I like
the fact that the continuity that we're seeing

506
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.920
in season two is manifesting itself out
there on the field with better play.

507
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:15.839
And I can't wait to see what
it's like in Detroit for the Michigan Hub.

508
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:20.079
I'll be there Mother's Day weekend to
check those two games out, just

509
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.680
to see. But I like the
fact that we are now back and teams

510
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.799
are fans are invested in, you
know, year or two. Everybody keeps

511
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.599
saying what about playing in their cities. But these people that keep saying that

512
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:37.400
are probably horrible at business. Are
finances that you got to understand finances first

513
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:42.480
in order for this to really sustain
itself. And I think over the long

514
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.599
haul, with the approach the XFL
has taken and the approach that the USFL

515
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:51.559
is taken, both leagues will be
able to be here for a long time,

516
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.000
which is what we want because everything
else will increase. You know,

517
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.319
So we can't like people, well
it's not the NFL, like well,

518
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.839
dug Like again, the NFL has
been around since nineteen twenty, Like,

519
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.319
why are you even trying to compare
this to something that's been around four hundred

520
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.199
plus years. Like, I just
don't understand people's focus, but I do

521
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:13.039
like the fact that year two they
can't. At first of all, let

522
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.840
me stop. We gotta stop saying
year or two. In year one of

523
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.400
year two, Can we just say
last season, this season, you know,

524
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.639
because if we said because it's gonna
be, it's gonna couple of time,

525
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:22.599
we're not gonna be able to keep
up with year end, right,

526
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.679
So just say this season, right, But this season, I'm glad.

527
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.639
You know, we've seen we're seeing
them back, and we're seeing teams,

528
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.960
uh, you know, more hubs
are open, which means more teams are

529
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.719
in their market. And the slow
approach is working for the USFL. And

530
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.159
I think, you know, with
them having that draft that they had,

531
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:45.159
I liked the draft concept and we'll
see how it continues to work itself out

532
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.840
moving forward. But I'm just glad
that we're seeing we got we still got

533
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.599
spring football watching. We're not Jones
and for football. Imagine if there was

534
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.800
no USFL and the XFL just ended
here, like, man, you know

535
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.559
what are we gonna watch now?
You know, we're not gonna fake like

536
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:01.719
soccer? You know what I'm saying, we're gonna watch NBA playoffs, but

537
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:06.440
we want to watch more football and
we have more football. Yeah, that

538
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.079
college draft was, you know,
it's like, wait, I was drafted,

539
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.280
Like, let's go. It was. I think that I think the

540
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.239
execution leads a little bit to be
desired there. I like the concept of

541
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.039
it, and I like, you
know, valuing players rights and the teams

542
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.679
and all that kind of stuff,
But I think that they needed the messaging

543
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.840
needed to work a little bit more
on that. What they what they have

544
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:29.039
done, what what one team has
done that It seems like Pittsburgh was really

545
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.280
locked in with who they drafted because
a couple of their guys have already committed

546
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:36.719
to playing in the league, and
that's where the focus has to change.

547
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.079
Like, hey, man, we
know football players and athletes have the ego

548
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.280
of I'm going to the league,
Like, yeah, we want you to.

549
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:51.000
But let's be realistic right here.
Man. You're you just played at

550
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.519
Middle Mississippi Baptist. The likelihood of
you getting drafted and getting an opportunity is

551
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.440
probably slim. Come play these ten
weeks here and the league reevaluate you from

552
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.719
there. What if you balled out
a week one a Week two in the

553
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.960
USFL, and now you find yourself
here in week three with the NFL draft

554
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.400
approaching. You probably just played yourself
into a draft pick because you played two

555
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:17.079
extra games here for the Pittsburgh Malors
or the Michigan Panthers. That so,

556
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.519
I think the more of these leagues
are around, the messaging for both leagues

557
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:28.400
have to change it. I think
we need to stop saying NFL, stop

558
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.800
talking about the NFL. NFL gonna
pick guys up regardless. XFL focused on

559
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.639
building your stars, USFL focused on
building your stars. And as the leagues

560
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.559
grow, obviously the salaries will increase
and it will become a more attractive option

561
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.960
for guys that are on the smaller
school level that you know won't go anywhere,

562
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:51.719
so they'll be locked into the league
and it'll just help the league grow

563
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.880
I think faster. Last question to
that, I appreciate it extending the timeline

564
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:59.760
here. How terrible is the Pittsburgh
Malors and how are they still sabad this

565
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:06.559
year? Common theme man quarterback play. Find you a quarter Granted you're banking

566
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.800
on Lindsay Scott. You know now
Lindsay Scott as a phenomenal player, but

567
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.000
all seriousness. It's quarterback play and
that's what these there's a big myth out

568
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.119
there read that people feel like there's
not enough quarterbacks out there. Yes,

569
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.679
there's enough quarterbacks. There's enough athletes, enough football players. There's eight hundred

570
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:29.440
and sixty football playing colleges across the
country and into Canada. There's more than

571
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:35.519
enough football players to field two spring
football league. So it's about trusting what

572
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:40.679
you're seeing, playing the best player
and allow that player to play. And

573
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:45.000
that's what has to happen. Once
you get good quarterback play, people think

574
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.559
you have to be Patrick Mahomes or
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and whatnot.

575
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.440
Now you just can't be out there, you know, not being able to

576
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.920
evade pressure, terrible with reads and
skipping the passes all over the field.

577
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:01.199
Just get competent quarterback play. It
doesn't have to be spectacular. It just

578
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.199
has to be consistent and if you
can get that, everything else will work

579
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.920
itself out. Pittsburgh also has a
lack of speed running game wide receivers.

580
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.280
Right now, everything is a possession. They have possession receivers and they don't

581
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.639
have explosiveness in the backfield. So
I think their defense is ready to win.

582
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:20.159
They got really good. They had
a good defense last year. They

583
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.239
just didn't have the explosiveness and dynamic
ability on offense coming from the quarterback,

584
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:29.480
running back or the wide receiver position. Well, wish us locked this weekend.

585
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.599
Big exciting South for the Yeah,
XFL playoffs L three everything else and

586
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.360
read good luck with the draft and
everything else you have going on. I

587
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.400
really appreciate your time to that.
Appreciate your read. Always a pleasure,

588
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.679
man, Good luck down there in
DC. I had fun when I went.

589
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.920
Man, I got to see the
beer steak in person, and like

590
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.440
I said, you know, beer's
fine. That's a lot of beer they

591
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.760
drink. But if it was a
you know, Cabernet snake, I may

592
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.400
have gone over there and participated of
If it was a you know, uncle

593
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.239
nearest Bourbons, you know snake,
I probably would have gone over there.

594
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.320
But it's cool to see it live
in person, and is it would be

595
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.119
a fun time for you. Yeah, I'll be I'll be in there.

596
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:06.559
I'm in the section. I got
a ticket listeners Seth hooked me up with

597
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.440
the code early. I'll be a
paid member there of the DC Army,

598
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:15.639
So it'll be fun. Well,
I appreciate it. Here we have him

599
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.320
on preseason. Now we have him
back, Tom Luka. But how are

600
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.360
you doing, sir? I'm good
man, how are you doing? Thanks

601
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.280
for having me back. We're good
making the rounds busy week NFL Draft.

602
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.440
I appreciate it. Uh, we're
here at the playoffs. First off?

603
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:35.960
What has been this whole experience like
for you XFL twenty twenty three. It's

604
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.679
been a blast. To be honest
with you, I've had probably as much

605
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:43.920
fun as I've had in the last
eighteen years at ESPN broadcast and you know

606
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:45.920
football where it's college football, high
school football, being in the booth,

607
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:51.639
being on the field, um,
And I think the reason why it's been

608
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.719
so much much fun is it's it's
such a it's such a different product,

609
00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:00.400
right, It's it's a it's a
there's several differences to the game that make

610
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:02.079
a big difference. You know,
the pace of play is fantastic. We

611
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.360
all know about the access and the
audio, but it's how you have to

612
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.039
call the game that's so dramatically different
than what we've done at the collegian or

613
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:13.119
the National Football League level. And
it's made it a lot of fun,

614
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.559
a lot of adjustments. It's kind
of like having to start over when you

615
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.480
you know you're taught, or you
learn a certain way to you know,

616
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:23.119
do your traditional broadcast, and this
is anything but. And so it went

617
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:28.320
about as I anticipated, some rough
sledding early with teams trying to find their

618
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:32.480
footing and particularly in the offensive line. And then as we rolled around about

619
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:37.639
week four or five six, you
really started to see the games become ultra

620
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:42.519
competitive. You saw more points being
scored on behalf of both teams. There's

621
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.000
a lot more familiarity, a lot
more things to scout and prepare for.

622
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:50.719
Could you remember those first two weeks? You know, what are you watching

623
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:57.280
to prepare for the opponent? And
so I thought it materialized and grew and

624
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:01.679
matured the way the league hoped it
would. The viewership, I think went

625
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.599
the way the league hoped it would. And you know, you're looking the

626
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.559
last couple of weeks of the regular
season. You know, we finally get

627
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:14.679
a two overtime games in one weekend, and then you get a third one,

628
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.079
and then you know, you find
yourself in these one point games or

629
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.480
these one possession games, and that's
competitive football, top to bottom. And

630
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.840
I will say this it was a
dream come true for the league because they

631
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:31.280
could have no way they could have
scripted. Having every single game in the

632
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.920
last weekend has some sort of impact
on the playoff pitch, and that's exactly

633
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.960
what you want to have happen.
I still see people upset with the playoffs.

634
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.519
I saw I coach back, I
think it was yesterday, even still

635
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.440
tweeting about it, like I reover
it now. What do you what do

636
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:53.199
you make of this? As with
anything in startup leagues and startup franchises,

637
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.360
and I've been a part of a
lot of them, you're gonna take stock,

638
00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.239
you're gonna sell scout, and you're
gonna go back and you're gonna say,

639
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:00.960
what do we need to correct,
What do we need to fix,

640
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.320
What did we get right? And
what do we want to leave alone?

641
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.480
How can we add? How can
we subtract? And I don't think there's

642
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:14.760
any question that you know Russ Brandon
and you know even Danny Garcia and Dwayne

643
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:20.039
Johnson, everybody affiliated at the league
level. Dean Blandino, from a rules

644
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:25.800
perspective, do we need to evaluate
having division champs, which is fine,

645
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.519
North and South division champs, but
then also ensure that the top four best

646
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.920
records get into the playoff, and
that's really where the beef has come from

647
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.400
from fans. And I get it
right, this was an unfortunate byproduct of

648
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:44.280
something that really couldn't be foreseen.
I mean, if if you're everybody,

649
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:45.719
you can sit there and say they've
got all the answers. But if you

650
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.199
were heading into the season as an
executive at the XFL and you said,

651
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.320
hey, at the end of this
deal, we're gonna have a four to

652
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.559
six team make the playoff, but
we're gonna have a seven and three team

653
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.320
not make the playoff, they'd be
like, what, oh, way,

654
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.679
what is this distical chance that happens. Well, it happened, right,

655
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:05.119
and so now they'll have to figure
out how they want to address it,

656
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.880
if they want to address it,
and those will be decisions made by people

657
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:13.199
a way above my bagorite. Yeah. I mean I if anything, you

658
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:15.159
have to ride it out at least
now. I mean, I think that

659
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.719
it would be worse if midway through
the season they're like, oh no,

660
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:21.320
we need to kind of adjust here
and this isn't working now. I mean,

661
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.400
if anything, you ride this out, you reflect later, because it

662
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.039
would be worse the other way.
Yeah, you know, I do think

663
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.960
it would have been worse off for
them to make any changes based off of

664
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.079
what they started to see could potentially
happen, because then it looks like you're

665
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.519
scrambling right, and then it looks
like you're trying to write it wrong.

666
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.079
And I think they were smart just
to stay away from it. Let it

667
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:45.719
play itself out. You'll deal with
it in the offseason. But it's just

668
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:46.400
like, you know, there are
going to be rules, they are going

669
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.760
to be looked at, Like,
for example, there was a rule that

670
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.719
happened. It was either an unsports
bike conduct or a personal found it was

671
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:59.159
after an extra point trial, and
it was on the offense. So what

672
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:04.480
would happen is the penalty would be
assessed after the kick, all right,

673
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.559
but all it, excuse me,
would be assessed during the kick. But

674
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:14.840
it didn't actually give the team that
should have gotten the yardage the yardage.

675
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:20.519
It actually just moved the kick closer
to the zone that they had to get

676
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.280
in the twenty yard line. Whereas
if you make that a post kick penalty,

677
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:28.239
then the team that should have received
the fifteen yards gets fifteen yards on

678
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:32.199
top of the kick return. So
you know, little things like that that

679
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.840
are going to be looked at and
examined. It's sorry we were talking about,

680
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.000
you know, radiance and everything,
and obviously we don't know their metrics.

681
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:44.800
But I think going into this season
maybe XFL twenty twenty fans had that

682
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.159
maybe a grander vision of what this
would be. I think maybe this was

683
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.440
kind of a test pilot. We
got through, we kind of maintained the

684
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.719
whole way through. How do you
view that success or not in terms of

685
00:44:54.920 --> 00:45:01.000
maybe what expectations were versus what actually
happened. I think it carried over supremely

686
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.039
from the end of Week five in
twenty twenty, because what was happening in

687
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.559
twenty twenty was fantastic and it was
very well received. The product on air

688
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:16.360
was fantastic, ironed out the kinks
and got rid of the troublesome approaches that

689
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:22.840
that played two thousand and one,
and then the pandemic hit and unfortunately that

690
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.199
that you know, we all we
all know what took place and the rest

691
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:34.000
is history. So I think that
when you consider that there was a foundation

692
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.280
there in twenty twenty that was really
successful, and so you know, you

693
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.519
can see, you can envision that
it can happen, it can work.

694
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.840
And then I thought it was really
really important that the XFL did not just

695
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:51.400
jump in and decide to go that
very what next year after the pandemic and

696
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:55.000
go twenty twenty two. They decided
to wait and really map things out and

697
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.719
play the slow game, which I
thought was a smart strategic move probably made

698
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.679
the league more organized and better as
a whole. And so you know,

699
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.840
again, now you know, moving
forward, I think the fans got what

700
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:15.519
they were clamoring for. They got
access, they got audio, they learned

701
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:20.199
about the game. Um, you
know, they hear things, whether it's

702
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.400
an X is an O type of
element or it's it's some type of verbiage

703
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.480
type of element. Hey what does
that mean? You know how when I

704
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.679
hear that, what am I supposed
to know? And I think that really

705
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.480
benefited the fan And listen, this
this league is about the fans. And

706
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.639
when you look at you look at
DC, and you look at Saint Louis

707
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:45.440
and even even you know, San
Antonio, who didn't have the season maybe

708
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:46.320
on the field that they would have
liked to have had. They had a

709
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:51.079
pretty good team that was just ravaged
with injuries, and they had tremendous support

710
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.159
at home and so, uh,
there's a good foundation to build upon.

711
00:46:54.320 --> 00:47:00.719
Now, whether that foundation, whether
that that that building includes expand after year

712
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.960
one or doesn't include expansion after year
one, whether it includes you know,

713
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:13.280
playoffs scenarios or tidebreaker changes, that
remains to be seen. But I think

714
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.679
as far as and not just on
a linear perspective of ABC, ESPN,

715
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.320
ESPN two in FX, but I
think the league felt really really good about

716
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:31.239
how the league was received digitally,
whether it's through social media platforms, the

717
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:36.920
digital program we did at ESPN each
and every week, social media engagement.

718
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.239
There was a lot of interest there
and there was a lot of fun and

719
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.000
a lot of banter back and forth. If they gave you the clipboard,

720
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:46.480
you know, headed into next season
and said, Tom, what would you

721
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.760
do? What would be your advice
for us to maximize kind of year one

722
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:53.199
to year two, you know,
growth, whatever, viewership everything, What

723
00:47:53.239 --> 00:48:02.480
would you say, m operationally or
from a football perspective, in what way

724
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.760
whatever way you see? I mean, I think the football, I think

725
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.519
the product on the field was good. I think they could have a better

726
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:14.559
job of cultivating some of the local
fan bases that weren't already built in right,

727
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:16.920
like I think I think they inherited
Saint Louis, right, I don't

728
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:22.159
know what was done there to further
kind of growth in DC. Yeah,

729
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.559
yeah, you know, I think
the one thing that could be important going

730
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:32.199
forward is to really examine cities that
have MLS teams, because those stadiums are

731
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:38.039
perfect, absolutely perfect for the XFL. You know, it's eighteen to twenty

732
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.719
two thousand, that right on top
of you. It makes for a great

733
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:47.920
game they experience. I think that's
something that's that that could be really interesting,

734
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.639
you know, moving forward and looking
forward, because the venues just seem

735
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.000
to be really really good in that
regard. And then I think what you'll

736
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.920
see this isn't something I do.
This is what I think you will see

737
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:07.719
happen naturally. Is the player pool
by which the teams will be able to

738
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:13.599
draw from will get more experienced and
more talented with each and every offseason because

739
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:17.639
agents and players and their representatives are
going to start to realize that if I've

740
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:21.440
got a guy, let's just say, made it a practice squad, then

741
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:27.079
he made an active roster for one
year, and you know he's just he's

742
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.920
this close well, is my client
better served signing an NFL future or is

743
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:36.599
he better served playing ten games or
eleven games or twelve games. And there's

744
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:42.599
a lot of validity to that question
because if these guys start realizing if I'm

745
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.280
playing, I'm going forward, I'm
not moving backward, and I'm giving more

746
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:51.239
people more opportunities to evaluate me.
That's going to get better, bigger name,

747
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.960
higher profile players to jump into the
player pool, which is in turn

748
00:49:54.840 --> 00:50:00.360
is going to make each and every
team's roster more talented. And I think

749
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:06.800
you'll see that naturally occur over over
the course of time. Um, you

750
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.760
know, obviously with Vegas in their
and their field set up, I think

751
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.880
that you know, that's going to
be something that will will be addressed.

752
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:22.840
Aside aside from that, like I
really I really kind of liked how things

753
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.960
played out. I like the director
of place, player personnel and head coach

754
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.559
relationship on each team and how they
manage that and how they managed it was

755
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.880
just it was And again, there
are a lot of young, when I

756
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.360
say young, young in the coaching
profession, inexperienced coaches that were first time

757
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.880
head coaches, right, and so
they've learned a time and they're gonna go

758
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.559
back and they're gonna sell Scott and
they're going to examine and say, well,

759
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.039
what we maybe do wrong in draft? You know, for me,

760
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:52.199
I think that there were so many
more positives and outweighed any negatives that came

761
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.440
from your one coaches that you were
impressed with. You know, obviously we

762
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.039
have a lot of the new head
coaches not make the playoffs. But who

763
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.960
do you think really them excelled?
I thought Anthony Beck does a fantastic job.

764
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.320
They were extremely organized. They did
a really good job of identifying exactly

765
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.400
what they wanted at each position and
who fit and who didn't, and they

766
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.480
didn't deviate from that. I thought
Reggie Barlow and his staff and the approach

767
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.199
they took offensively was brilliant because in
professional football you barely have to deal with

768
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.920
quarterback run and defending quarterback run.
So what do they do. They look

769
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.280
like a college team on offense,
and then they go out and they signed

770
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.760
a draft three athletic quarterbacks, so
if something happened to one of them,

771
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.800
they don't have to change the offense. They just plugged the next guy in.

772
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.679
And as we could see, particularly
throughout the first five or six weeks

773
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.920
of the season, people had a
hard time figuring them out because you just

774
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.360
in professional football, guys don't have
to prepare for that, and you do

775
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.400
every day in college. So I
thought that was really really well done on

776
00:51:53.719 --> 00:52:00.679
behalf of Reggie Barlow in the DC
staff, I felt or I felt for

777
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.599
Hines Ward because that team was just
crushed, crushed with injuries, particularly at

778
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.960
quarterback. But really, what the
common denominator is, and the coaches would

779
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.519
tell you this, and it's true
at every level anyway, but the teams

780
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:22.079
that ended up hitting the market quarterback, we're the best teams, all right.

781
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.840
So and sometimes not just with one
but with two. I mean Cole

782
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.360
McDonald and Brandon Silver's on one team, Nick Tiano a J. McCarron on

783
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:37.280
one team. The two players at
DC that we referenced Derret King and Jordan

784
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:43.039
Tamu. And then the teams that
struggled to settle in at quarterback struggled to

785
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.199
improve offensively and get enough wins.
I mean, that's just kind of the

786
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:50.960
bottom line. Looking towards this weekend, you know, speaking of DC Seattle

787
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:52.800
going in, I'll be there.
This Seattle will have a chance. I

788
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.039
mean, they've held DC close both
other times. When you make of the

789
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.480
North Division, I think Seattle is
a dangerous team in the league right now.

790
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.679
And when you really start to dissect
their season, they're three plays,

791
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.239
all three of them essentially on the
last play of the game for being ten

792
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.480
to no the fumble on the one
yard line at DC all right, the

793
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.920
field goal to Seattle in a week
two excuse me, Saint Lewis in week

794
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.519
two, and then the thirty five, thirty four or whatever one loss or

795
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.400
one point loss at home against DC. This is going to be a battle

796
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.280
for the ages. I actually think
this is the championship game. I do.

797
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.400
I think these are the two best
teams, two of the hottest teams

798
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:37.440
there. It's interesting because I do
think Seattle has a great opportunity here.

799
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:40.679
I think I know a lot of
people are going to vote for a J.

800
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.119
McCarron as the MVP, and maybe
statistically you should, but I'm not

801
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:49.559
so sure. The best overall player
in the league's not Bend Nucci. And

802
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.039
while he does take risks with the
football and you're gonna have turnovers from him,

803
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:58.480
you're also going to have some utterly
spectacular plays, players that have changed

804
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.280
their season players that have changed the
of a game. And I think the

805
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:05.599
biggest challenge for Seattle isn't whether they
can go toe to toe and match up

806
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:09.079
with DC. It's how do you
handle you know, the crowd, the

807
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:14.159
road environment, which will be really
really difficult, especially if you get backed

808
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:17.760
up in that one end zone.
And you know, secondly, can you

809
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.599
get over that mental hurdle of sant
kak? Can we finally get these guys

810
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.360
and we're so close, we feel
like we should have won. We didn't

811
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.480
because we made more errors than they
did and maybe it's now their time.

812
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.400
Can you get over that? You
know? Do you think Ben has played

813
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:37.440
his way into a new NFL role
here after the season? Oh yeah,

814
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.800
In fact, I think it'll have
multiple options now, you know, getting

815
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.199
into camp, going deep into camp, whether he sticks or not, I

816
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.079
firmly believe will not be based upon
anything talent related. It will be whether

817
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.159
he can prove he can consistently protect
the football, because you're not going to

818
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.480
be able to do what he's done
with the football and make a National Football

819
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.199
League roster. That's just they're not
going to They're not going to do that,

820
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.559
and Ben knows that, But you
don't also want to take away from

821
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.239
what makes him really good, right
that riverboat gambler, gun slinger, guys

822
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:13.320
out in the street playing with his
boys and things break down. You just

823
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:15.840
stolen them. I mean, that's
what he is. And it's fun to

824
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.599
watch. Yeah, you wonder what
Seattle would be if we didn't turn the

825
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.000
ball over eighty seven times? You
know, right exactly. I mean,

826
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.000
at the end of the day,
football's football, walking, tackling and who

827
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.599
protects the ball. I mean,
it's let's get down to it. In

828
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.360
the bottom line is they were really, really careless with the football this year,

829
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.199
especially in those first four weeks.
See you give you give Seattle the

830
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.440
edge against DC. I do.
And I'm surprised that I'm saying that because

831
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:44.639
we had DC so much this year
and I'm so familiar with them, But

832
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.159
I think that just might be due. And I think they're playing with such

833
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:52.280
confidence right now. And I don't
know if you've noticed, but all of

834
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:57.480
a sudden, Josh Gordon's become a
much bigger piece of the puzzle when the

835
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:02.079
other wideouts on that team started to
perform, right Jordan VC, Blake Jackson,

836
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:06.000
Core Pearson. I mean, they
have a group of four or five

837
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:08.559
guys, they're really good. That's
enabled everybody not to just say, well,

838
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.920
let's focus on number zero. Now, you better defend the whole entire

839
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.760
field. And it's really helped him
become more of a focal point of the

840
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:20.840
passenger. It's just crazy looking.
And I've coached Buckley on this episode as

841
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:23.519
well, like how some of the
teams were so much able to build so

842
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:27.239
much better? It seems that,
you know, because everyone's starting from scratcher,

843
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.800
right, and is it just better
DPPs and being able to scout?

844
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:34.159
Like how are some of the teams
stacked so much more like Seattle? And

845
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:36.880
then you have coach Buckley, you
know, I gotta go through twenty five

846
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.920
different guys to get a team here. Well, I think that for some

847
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:44.639
of the first year head coaches and
the guys that hadn't built a franchise or

848
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.719
built a team. And I'm not
saying this is the case, but in

849
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:53.320
supplemental leagues like this, it's all
player evaluation. It's all player personnel.

850
00:56:53.440 --> 00:57:01.400
And if you look at Dave Boehler
at at St. Louis, over twenty

851
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:07.559
five years experience as an NFL scout, ben in Personnel's entire career, obviously

852
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:13.480
Mueller at Seattle and then the NFL
pedigree of the coaches on that staff.

853
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.880
And I think as the newer head
coaches become more entrenched, they're going to

854
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.159
start, I believe, to really
see the value in an off season in

855
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.400
a league like this, it is
all player evaluation. And I go back,

856
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.599
I go back to two thousand and
one on the team that we built,

857
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:36.840
like we worked harder and longer in
our offseason than we ever did on

858
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:40.280
a single day during the week of
the game of a game in season.

859
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:46.800
And it was because we wanted to
ensure that when we went into training camp

860
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:52.760
and came out of training camp that
barring injury or something unforeseen, that we

861
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:55.360
had a chance to win, right. And that comes to research and study

862
00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:00.679
and evaluation. And it's months and
months and months and months. And not

863
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:06.199
to say that you know Haines or
Rod or you know te Bak or any

864
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.800
of this, but they haven't necessarily
had that background at this point, you

865
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.360
know, And some of the other
coaches had a little bit of that,

866
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:17.480
they had some more. It was
just like when Galen Hall or Jim Kriner

867
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:21.960
came over from NFL Europe and comes
into the XFL in two thousand and one,

868
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.400
Well, they had distinct advantages over
a guy like Jerry DiNardo, right,

869
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:29.880
And it's just because they'd been through
that whole prep of how you do

870
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.400
this in professional football in a supplemental
league. And so I think, again,

871
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:37.760
going back taking stock evaluating, a
lot of teams will probably choose to

872
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:43.360
maybe tweak things or go a different
direction sometimes. Do you think the league,

873
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.960
through all of their different you know, we had all the showcases and

874
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:49.519
everything, and we're finding another do
you think they provided the coaches with the

875
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:52.559
best talent that they It was just
who was able to kind of work with,

876
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.000
and that you think that the quality
that they assembled for everyone was up.

877
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.159
I thought, let's talk about Orlando
for a second, because I thought

878
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:07.320
Orlando, outside of the quarterback position
until they settled on Quentin Dormity, I

879
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:14.840
didn't think they had bad players.
They just self destructed each and every week.

880
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:16.400
I mean, and Tebuck will tell
you that. I mean, double

881
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:21.239
digit penalties, turn over, snapping, game kicking, game snap booze.

882
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.159
And you can't go out when the
playing fields, when you know the margin

883
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:29.880
of error is so small, you
can't go out and do that and expect

884
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.760
to be successful, and then they
compounded it because they were struggling at quarterback

885
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:37.599
and then lo and behold. If
you watched the game that they beat DC,

886
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:44.639
it was the one time leading to
that point that DC had actually done

887
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.199
what everybody on the else in the
league had done, gone out there and

888
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:52.079
played bad, just flat out played
bad. And on that day Orlando didn't

889
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:57.760
play as bad and the quarterback made
some plays and we all know the result.

890
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:01.639
And so I I think that all
of the teams had pretty good players.

891
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:06.599
I thought some of the teams lack
some team speed. Other teams did

892
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:10.400
a good job at that with some
of their skill. Um. I do

893
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:16.280
think that there's there's so many good
players out there, really good players,

894
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:21.000
players that can make an NFL roster
all right, that will be in the

895
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:24.559
player pool for an NFL draft or
a showcase or a supplemental draft for the

896
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:30.360
XFL or whatever it is. That
if you do your homework, you can

897
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.920
put together one heck of a roster. I mean you really can. But

898
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:38.000
you know that homework is going to
be watching every single guy that's been cut

899
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:42.559
for the last three years and every
single game he's ever played in. It's

900
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:46.599
going to I mean, it's it
is an arduous, arduous process. Before

901
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.800
we get out of here. Thoughts
on the South, I know, not

902
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.559
as intriguing the matter period that Bob
Steve's kind of limping into the playoffs make

903
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:59.079
of Arlen Tan and Houston, Well, hopefully davey On Smith will be back

904
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.599
their whole offense. Really, if
there's a strength that there's something you want

905
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:07.119
to look at, it's the offensive
line in the run game. But they've

906
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:09.880
just struggled to come off of that
with any semblance of consistency in the passing

907
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:14.639
game. And you know, outside
of South Canal, Arlington hasn't had a

908
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:16.679
guy that can just run and take
the top off the defense, right,

909
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.639
and not a lot of teams in
this league had that. John Jay Kirkman

910
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:23.840
had that until he got hurt,
and we saw the impact that had on

911
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:28.719
Houston's offense. So I think it's
really critical for Louise Perez to have a

912
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.119
chance. They're going to have to
run the football effectively, So getting Smith

913
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:35.880
back I think should be a help. I didn't like how Arlington went out

914
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.679
and played last week. It just
it kind of left a sour note.

915
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:44.039
You find out that you're in the
playoffs, before you kick off, Houston

916
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.960
comes out and plays with a vast
majority of their reserves and Arlington play well,

917
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:51.000
I mean, and that's and you
could hear Bob Stoops and the frustration

918
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:54.039
that he had on some of the
open mic conversations and listening in, and

919
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:58.079
I don't blame him. And so
now you're, like you put it,

920
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:00.920
you're kind of limping in against the
team you just played, and you went

921
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.519
out, you kind of laid an
egg. I'm really looking to see Arlington

922
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.639
come back and play some inspired football. That's what needs to happen for them.

923
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.719
And if it does, if they
do, because defensively they're good enough.

924
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:15.800
Now Arlington is good enough on defense. So if they come out and

925
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:19.800
they can you know, minimize the
mistakes, they'll get into the fourth quarter.

926
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.320
This will be a heck of a
football game. Houston obviously coming back

927
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.679
down to earth, you know.
And I'm trying to figure out, like

928
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:27.880
if A J. Smith kind of
got found out, like you said,

929
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:31.159
we have the you know, the
Kirkland injury, like what happened to Houston

930
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:35.519
here just playing against better teams in
the North. It just seems like they're

931
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:37.400
not even the same team they were
five six weeks ago. Yeah, I

932
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.400
think everybody kind of got caught up
with I mean, look at look at

933
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:44.719
how DC got exposed on defense in
the last four or five weeks of the

934
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:46.840
season. The first five weeks of
the season, he's playing chess and everybody

935
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:51.880
else is playing checkers, right,
And don't kid yourself, they do some

936
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:54.239
things on defense at DC that are
on sound. Well, after about five

937
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:58.400
or six weeks of study and it, people started attacking it and having some

938
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:01.039
success. I think the same thing
to be said here. Here's where Houston

939
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:06.920
had a huge advantage. Houston's offensive
line was further along in the passing game

940
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:08.960
in the first two to three weeks
of the season than everybody else in the

941
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:14.679
league. And Brandon Silvers did a
great job of getting the ball out of

942
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.320
his hand, so unlike a lot
of the offense is the first couple of

943
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:22.559
weeks, and not so much DC
but just about everybody else, they weren't

944
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.840
dealing with a lot of negative plays. They were always playing with you a

945
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.000
pretty full deck. And then listen, he's a young offensive coordinator. He's

946
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:35.880
probably created tendencies that they came glaring. And guess what, a lot of

947
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.000
good coaches start studying up and now
you have more to go on. And

948
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:43.320
I think John Trey Kirkland getting hurt
crushed them. I really do believe that.

949
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.880
And then you know, Brandon Silver's
got dinged up a little bit.

950
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:51.559
So it's a multitude of things,
but I think it applies to the league

951
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:55.639
got better because everybody got to know
each other better. So the gains became

952
01:03:55.719 --> 01:04:01.679
more more competitive because there was more
to prep for. And then at the

953
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.199
end of the day, quarterback play, who got hot late right, and

954
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.800
who stayed healthy. I mean that's
a big part of it too, is

955
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.480
where we sit heading into the week
one of the playoffs. It just I

956
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:16.920
liked it that everyone seemed to really
give an us all year. I mean,

957
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:21.159
you know, we're having we're reliving
the offensive coordinators and defensive like we're

958
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:25.280
doing all this. It just seemed
like, I know, sometimes in the

959
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.280
USFL Season one, that felt like
some of the coaches maybe we're out for

960
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.880
a cup of coffee a little bit. Sometimes like it felt like we really

961
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.199
we're all in right now, where
this is our job. I'm ali,

962
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:41.239
Well, I'll say this. I
think that there are young coaches, middle

963
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:45.199
aged coaches, and older coaches that
would love to make a career coaching in

964
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:47.920
the XFL. I think they really
enjoy it, and I think they can

965
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.239
be paid well enough to do that
and support their families. So there is

966
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:55.320
an investment. And I think one
of the reasons why there's been an investment

967
01:04:55.519 --> 01:05:00.400
is the coaches can clearly see how
invested Danny and DJ and you know,

968
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:05.440
the investment group is towards making this
thing work. When the owners care and

969
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:10.920
the owners are visible and they're there
and they're interacting with the people they've hired

970
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:13.800
because they want to support him and
see him succeed, it makes for a

971
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:15.960
pretty fun work environment, you know, it really does. And so,

972
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:20.199
yeah, there's there's good football coaches
that a coach I mean, yeah,

973
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:25.400
I mean Reggie Barlow to me is
just I mean, here's a guy that's

974
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:29.719
won everywhere he's been all right.
Now he gets a chance in professional football

975
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.880
and has one of the better plans
of any coaching staff in the league.

976
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.039
They knew exactly who they were,
what they were going to be, how

977
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:38.039
they were going to go about doing
it. The players bought in. He

978
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.960
didn't deviate, and so you know
he's looking at this thing is not just

979
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.559
an opportunity for him to move up, but even if it didn't happen.

980
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.639
What a great what a great gig, man, I mean, what a

981
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:53.679
great gig. So much fun.
Well, Tom, I appreciate it.

982
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.039
Busy here making the time anything else
before I let you go. Thanks for

983
01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.840
your time today, No, man, I just looking for watching the playoffs

984
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.360
and saying keep I keep joking with
everybody. I got this XFL Championship ring

985
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:09.119
and nobody's coming take it from me, so sooner or later, somebody's gonna

986
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:13.119
win it. I know I had
my la extreme jersey on the first time

987
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:15.519
we talked. I appreciate that a
lot of the time with the league and

988
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:24.519
everything else. So thank you so
much. Thanks for having me. Well.

989
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:28.599
I'm thrilled today we are joined by
I have been glued to my TV

990
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.440
every week watching this man. We
have had coached srub Buckley here. How

991
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.599
are you doing, sir, I'm
doing well, doing well. Appreciates for

992
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:38.119
asking how are you doing. I'm
good. We're excited. I'll be in

993
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:41.880
DC this weekend. We're gonna be
at the c Dragons Defenders game. Wish

994
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.000
you guys would be in the South, but you know where there's always next

995
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:46.719
year. You said, you're back
home. How's your life right now?

996
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:54.840
How are you doing well? I'm
kind of revealing a reliving i should say,

997
01:06:55.360 --> 01:07:02.760
this past season on the good,
the bad, but also very thankful

998
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:10.679
and really really excited about this weekend
watching watching some more XFL football. Yeah,

999
01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:13.599
how how's the process? What was
the whole process like for you?

1000
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:16.639
If you kind of had to grade, your experience were great? Just the

1001
01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:23.239
opportunity was an a plus. Obviously, Execuse's one in nine got off to

1002
01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:27.840
one of the worst starts that that
you can imagine, I can even picture

1003
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:34.639
that changing the roster, some of
the details on how the makeup of the

1004
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:43.199
team and the expectations and all those
things we really didn't get correct. We

1005
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:49.079
corrected a majority of that probably after
week before and we started to play obviously

1006
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:55.039
a lot better and was in a
lot of games, so very very exciting

1007
01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:59.280
and learning. Experience, growth,
opportunity heat for me, a very big

1008
01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.559
growth a leap. Uh. So
it was good. It was good.

1009
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:06.360
When you talk, how do you
do you internalize that? Is that?

1010
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:10.119
I'm you know, team building?
Is it on the coaching, is it

1011
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.000
on the players? How do you
kind of where do you place that if

1012
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.800
you had to kind of you know, look look back now of some of

1013
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:19.039
the troubles you guys had. Well, remember I tried to remember this.

1014
01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:24.800
We we didn't have a team this
time last year and no players, no

1015
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:30.439
coaches. So you're talking about an
entirely new league, a new staff,

1016
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:35.239
uh, new players, no ota
day. So we went right into training

1017
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:40.640
camp, which was trying to learn
each other, to learn a new system,

1018
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:48.000
implement a culture, uh, in
a new city of everything. And

1019
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:54.399
it just did not jail. Some
teams that jailed a little bit earlier and

1020
01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:58.800
they got off to a hot start. Uh. But if you see,

1021
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:01.279
at the end, I felt like
it was competing and we just couldn't get

1022
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:06.680
over. We had too many turnovers. Earlier, we couldn't score in the

1023
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:13.279
red zone. We couldn't stop.
But I don't kick off the turn The

1024
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:15.920
first part of season, defensively played
pretty well out in the field. I

1025
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:24.119
don't think we played very well in
the red zone. And then we we

1026
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:30.560
just didn't create enough negative plays on
defense. We had some explosive players on

1027
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:35.720
offense. At the end, too
many turnovers. Just the little things again,

1028
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:41.239
the errors pointing in the right direction, some of the penalies to move

1029
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:45.640
in the ball to stopping them.
H It was. It was a learning

1030
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.399
experience, and I feel like we
got better when you look and see you

1031
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:54.399
know Houston or any of that,
you know Arlingtons them being in the playoffs

1032
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:58.600
and you're not were they just when
you talk about jelling better, being able

1033
01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.039
to work, Like, what did
they do? What happened with them that

1034
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:03.640
they were able to succeed where you
guys were in. I thought they got

1035
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:06.720
off to a great start. They
rushed the pass so pretty well. On

1036
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:12.760
defense, Houston did they made more
big plays and they made them when it

1037
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.560
counted. I don't they just for
us, We didn't make the plays when

1038
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:21.279
it counted. Just like with Seattle, you look at halftime. I go

1039
01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:27.920
back to the halftime scenario we played
Seattle. Well, we got a fantom

1040
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:31.960
called about one of our linement moving
his hands. So we go to halftime

1041
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:38.800
ten nine versus thirteen six. Because
it was five yards away from being in

1042
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.720
field goal range. That could have
been a huge day. We get a

1043
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:46.359
plot a block punt with down one, were punting it in the fourth quarter

1044
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:51.520
with seven minutes left, We're lose
by seven. We lost the all of

1045
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:58.279
ten by combined two games by three
points. So and we got a call.

1046
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:01.640
We had a big catch against all
into the first game that had us

1047
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:08.000
in field goal range that was overruled
by Dean. Blandino still mad at Dean

1048
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:14.680
for that. So we did some
good things, but we didn't execute and

1049
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.880
make the plays when it counted.
Because it's tough because the obviously next year

1050
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:20.479
I'll be different than people coming back, but you know, everyone's starting to

1051
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:23.960
square one this year, so it's
just hard. You know, I'm always

1052
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:27.840
curious like where some teams were able
to gel or find success earlier because everyone

1053
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.920
started in any exact same place.
I mean, it's it's challenging for all

1054
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:35.439
eight teams, right, and I
feel like the guys, this is what

1055
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:42.039
I say, been the first time
head coach and and creating that type of

1056
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:46.279
environment hurt me, hurt us.
But that's the great thing about it.

1057
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:51.119
There's only one time, so again, moving forward, it won't be like

1058
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:56.439
that. You look at Way,
you look at Stoops, you look at

1059
01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:00.880
Ballow, look at has them.
They've been head coaches. They understood kind

1060
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:05.399
of with this how to build a
team correctly, and they have It was

1061
01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:10.680
kind of dumb and Sword too they
have a bunch of older players. We

1062
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:16.119
kind of emphasize even in the league, we wanted a younger team, kind

1063
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:21.840
of developmental. By the time I
realized that was not the case, it

1064
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:28.000
was too late and if you could
see the turnover on the team we had

1065
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:31.680
over the twenty five transaction. So
we once we realized and I think this

1066
01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:35.680
is good for us, We realize, Okay, we made a mistake.

1067
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:41.199
That's not right. Let's fix it, versus just sitting on it. Like

1068
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:44.680
you see a lot of teams just
sit and pump things and blame No,

1069
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:50.039
I take it. DPP the minutes, we took that and we started to

1070
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:55.560
make that change things you would do
different going back and you said, you

1071
01:12:55.640 --> 01:12:59.640
know, Scott signing younger players that
way? It is that the biggest thing

1072
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:00.760
you would change if you had to
go back and do it together. What

1073
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:06.840
would that be that not not having
so many and having some guys that have

1074
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:13.960
gone, which will make older guys. I turned down. We as a

1075
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:17.239
group, we turned out some guys
like you know, it's twenty nine thirty.

1076
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:20.319
I don't know, does you know
kind of out of shade? Do

1077
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:27.079
we do? We really want that? We run we rerun that yes,

1078
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.600
we would take u We would take
four or five of those guys, which

1079
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:35.000
I think would would have made a
huge difference for us. You did have

1080
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.439
some bright spots here. We had
Devin Derrington on our show a couple weeks

1081
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:43.439
ago, and obviously who who stood
out to you? And I wanted to

1082
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.119
talk Quittin Dormandy separately, but who
stood out to you? Uh, you

1083
01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:50.159
know it's bright spots on the team. Well, Devin Derrenton did a great

1084
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:58.760
job, Terence Plumber, uh did
a great job. Savon Patton uh,

1085
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:04.039
Eli Rogers came and did a great
job for us. Jordan Thomas at the

1086
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:08.000
end. See, that's one of
the things we wanted drawing early. We

1087
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:14.720
couldn't get him to the middle of
the season. Matt Brown partner. So

1088
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:19.359
we have a few We have a
few guys that came in uh and and

1089
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:25.560
did a great job for Jayles Spady
center the twenty might be the youngest player

1090
01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:30.600
in the league. Center that started
last two games in terms of you know,

1091
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.520
the the quarterback situation in Dermody and
we don't got to have to get

1092
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:36.039
into all that other stuff, but
everything that he went through and playing the

1093
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:40.199
way that he did, and just
like, what do you think that was

1094
01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:42.800
like? And what is your thought
process? I'm kind of seeing everything he

1095
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:48.840
went through. It was a different
situation, unique which I've never been a

1096
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:53.880
part of. For sure, he's
never been a part of. But the

1097
01:14:53.920 --> 01:15:00.840
way, the maturity, the professionalism
on both sides of okay, this is

1098
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.319
kind of what happened. Everybody disagree. You go through these things, but

1099
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:09.600
then as a family when it comes
back around and like it's like, okay,

1100
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:15.039
this might have might not have.
Let's water on the bridge as handle

1101
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:19.560
as like men like professionals, and
let's move forward. In terms of the

1102
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:24.239
league overall, how do you think
that this season when and if you you

1103
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.560
know, if you had the great
league, you know, management and executives

1104
01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:30.720
and everything from kind of a football
ops. Oh man, I would say

1105
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:38.720
you for a new league for I
think we had over us it's gonna be

1106
01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:45.119
an end being able about seven hundred
thousand fans to come playing in and having

1107
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:48.640
a hub and playing in your home
stadium. The logistics over that, and

1108
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:54.640
I would give us an eight.
There's a league and the first class of

1109
01:15:54.760 --> 01:16:00.640
it, the ownership group being available
and being what we said, lion off

1110
01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:08.239
feetmen able to just make adjustments from
not having an indoor when it got cold

1111
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:14.600
to having an indoor. Just just
in general, the flexibility that we was

1112
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:20.560
afforded, I think is is second
and none thoughts on spring football in general,

1113
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:25.640
having the league like this to give
these players an opportunity, I mean

1114
01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:30.640
awesome. I think I don't now. Obviously we had the NFL Europe before,

1115
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:40.239
which was unbelievable. This being here
in the States, United States and

1116
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:43.840
being able to support each other like
we do, I think it's unreal.

1117
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:49.119
I think it's needed. It's appreciated
on both sides, fans and players and

1118
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:57.720
coaches, and the opportunity for the
XFL that it gives to guys like myself

1119
01:16:58.439 --> 01:17:02.439
that get the opportunity have an ups
and downs, to make adjustments, to

1120
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:06.720
to be the head coach, to
being charged and do all that. It's

1121
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:11.760
unbelievable, and for mem I'm just
very very appreciative. Yeah, in terms

1122
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.720
of yeah, I misspoke in terms
of not only the players, but obviously

1123
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:19.960
the coaching and staff giving you are
you do you find yourself or do you

1124
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:25.640
think other players former players would now
be interested in utilizing this and kind of

1125
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:29.680
taking a datage to this opportunity.
Also absolutely, you know, I was

1126
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:33.640
talking to somebody last night that I'm
thinking about bringing on an old vetching coach

1127
01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:41.359
that has been in the NFL.
The scheduling, everything about it. It's

1128
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:47.760
still coaching. You're still getting i'll
call them that their prose. It's almost

1129
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:51.439
like that that development of part the
fifth year senior. You get a little

1130
01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:55.600
bit of that and get a little
bit of that first year of rookie guy,

1131
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:00.479
and you get to keep working your
craft, doing something you love and

1132
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:05.960
provide an entertainment and having an impact
not just on the field but off the

1133
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:10.880
field. Uh. It's what it's
about, I think, and that's why

1134
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:16.199
I love it and appreciate it.
In terms of other players and things being

1135
01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:20.720
involved. When you as a player, you know, seeing the head coach

1136
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.520
and obviously you're gonna have a million
different things that you think that they should

1137
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.239
do different. Now with the shoes
being on the other foot, I think

1138
01:18:27.359 --> 01:18:30.640
you kind of look back at maybe
some of the things that you were critical

1139
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:32.800
of with former coaches or players,
like now that you've got to hold the

1140
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:38.279
clipboards on that side. Yeah,
I think there's a couple of things that

1141
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:45.119
that I look back on and Will
Uh says Okay, maybe I shouldn't have

1142
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.960
said that. It uh not a
whole lot because I was always respectful and

1143
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:53.760
knew how tough it was. But
there's a couple of things You're like,

1144
01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:59.600
Okay, it should not not been
in this tough But I understand now what

1145
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.279
those guys we're going through at that
time, being now that I'm on this

1146
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:10.359
side and some of them am actually
gonna reach out to over the next few

1147
01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:15.760
days and get some more advice from
them, like totally dungee, Dan Mullen,

1148
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.600
you know, just different guys like
Okay, how would you handle this

1149
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:24.720
situation? What happened? When this
happened? He looking forward the year to

1150
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:27.600
hear what would you like to see
from the league to help you guys be

1151
01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:31.319
more successful? Uh, And it's
happening now. It's one of those.

1152
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:40.520
Uh. We have a calendar of
events that we've already started on the camps.

1153
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.279
We already have picking out teams that
we're going to visit NFL teams.

1154
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:51.359
So the improvement and this is why
this league is so great and gonna have

1155
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:59.159
standing for They're not waiting around to
decide what what can we do better?

1156
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:03.079
What do we do? They've they've
been doing that the entire season and been

1157
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:08.039
giving us that information. And you
think they're receptive of the you know,

1158
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:11.399
anything that you guys might need to
help success, helped set yourselves up for

1159
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:15.039
more success. Absolutely. I mean
they said out they said out something a

1160
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.920
couple of weeks ago, asking about
that, and I think from from Dannon

1161
01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:24.399
Glocer to Dwayne to Jared Carton or
the owners, that's what they want,

1162
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:30.680
that feedback. And then you throw
a rough sprand and uh Mark Mark Marking

1163
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:35.399
and Doug and you got you got
a management team and the ownership group that

1164
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:41.800
wants to get better. They want
to put a grade grade one product on

1165
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:45.199
the field. A couple more.
I'll let you go here our promise.

1166
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:48.119
I appreciate your time here, said. We talked with the coach back at

1167
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:50.960
the beginning of the season, and
he was talking, you know, his

1168
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:56.279
biggest success would be to have all
his players signed on the NFL camps at

1169
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:59.439
the end of the season. Rebuild. You know, obviously continuity all that,

1170
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.680
How do you view the team in
your position in the league and what

1171
01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:05.720
would you like to say, Echoing
with Beck, said, you want all

1172
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:11.479
these guys to get opportunity to go
to the next level. If not,

1173
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:16.640
as they come back and we get
them core guys going that they they really

1174
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:24.000
appreciate this opportunity and stay focused on
what's in hand and we're about the future

1175
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:30.680
later and let's try to put this
thing turning around for us the Landau Guardians

1176
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:34.159
and be in the playoff and get
opportunity to win the championship. Were you

1177
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:38.319
impressed with the level of talent in
the league or what was your thoughts from

1178
01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:43.680
the talent level of the players.
Oh man, I was very impressed talking

1179
01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:47.479
about from first of all, how
big and how to shape those guys were,

1180
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.840
and then just from a playbook,
the football key it is, I'm

1181
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:58.960
taking schemes thematically. They're a bunch
of NFL NFL coaches, former coaches on

1182
01:21:59.079 --> 01:22:03.720
the staff, so implement that.
How quickly they received that, and the

1183
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:09.960
play just kept getting better and better
and better. Uh. From from everybody

1184
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:16.680
around the league, the respect factor
from each team was unbelievable. The professionalism,

1185
01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:21.119
I mean we literally would go would
fly down on the same plane,

1186
01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:28.520
split the plane up, fly in
compete, I mean, try to tear

1187
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:32.439
each other apart after the game,
see each other. I'm talking about literally

1188
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:40.720
thirty minutes later and congratulate each other. Obviously was congratulating a team a lot

1189
01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:45.319
what we want. It won't be
the case next year. And the professionalism

1190
01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:49.159
didn't get back on the plane and
the bus and there was no issue.

1191
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:54.600
So I can really really appreciate that
for the players. Yeah, I hadn't

1192
01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:57.399
been. You know, I'd probably
a little chippy after some of the games,

1193
01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:00.039
right, depending on the year who
won the last Well, that's what

1194
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:06.079
I'm saying. It was. It
might have been initially, but after the

1195
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:11.079
cool down and everything, because we
had to go through the buses a part

1196
01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:14.760
right beside each other. We had
to go through the same security gate,

1197
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.960
and then you had the bus ride
over, separate bus, and then you

1198
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:23.439
get on the same plane and you
get off the plane together and the buses

1199
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:30.880
a part right beside each other.
To the professionalism of the players, I

1200
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:35.760
think need to be highlighted just across
the league. That was amazing to me

1201
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:40.640
and I really appreciate the players.
Last question, what would you what would

1202
01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:44.159
be your masters for Orlando Guardians fans? Obviously a tough year trying to build

1203
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:46.439
a new market, new franchise.
We'd like to see more success. What

1204
01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:49.039
would you have to say to them, I would say, hey, have

1205
01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:51.840
some patients, would us if you
saw us at the end of the season.

1206
01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:58.079
The second half was very, very
competitive. We are working diligent and

1207
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:02.159
trying to find guys that can and
finish and make plays when it count.

1208
01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:10.319
We've already started the process of improving
the team. So we had this saying

1209
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:15.720
last year Orlando Guardians that and guard
We've already changed in that we're gonna make

1210
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:23.880
it the Guardian way, which is
first class professionalism, playmakers, all those

1211
01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:29.239
things that we need to turn this
around and getting the playoff and give us

1212
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.760
a shot to win a championship.
Well, I really appreciate your time.

1213
01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:34.560
It was fun to watch. I
enjoyed you trying to ask if you can

1214
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:38.319
get your time out back the other
day and that was fine. I could

1215
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:40.840
tell you on there about did you
really think they were going to give it

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back or replayed to the camera?
No, I really because the relf,

1217
01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:50.520
you guys to hear the whole conversation, right, The relf was telling one

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01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:54.199
of the players on the field,
and we had twelve guys on the field,

1219
01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:59.199
which was not the case. So
that was their mistake. And so

1220
01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:02.279
I was asked, since you guys
made the mistake, then you should give

1221
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:05.680
us the penalty, give us the
time out back. That was the whole

1222
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:12.039
whole thing around that we had Dan
on last week five, I bogus question

1223
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:14.960
here, were you happy with the
level of officiating that would you like to

1224
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:18.199
see the improved? Well, just
like us in the beginning of the season,

1225
01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:23.159
it was it was needed an improvement
to like our team. I felt

1226
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:28.239
like the second half it was very
good. I thought it was its thought

1227
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.760
to be fair and balanced and and
all that. So in the beginning,

1228
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:38.000
need a lot of work, no
different than than us, and at the

1229
01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:43.000
end it got really good and it
was unique and very exciting too. Well.

1230
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:45.840
I appreciate your time. We'll see
you next season, and I know

1231
01:25:45.920 --> 01:25:48.479
that you just enjoy the watch.
And a lot of Guardians fans i'd hear

1232
01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:53.279
as bad as they were sometimes and
it's good to see the improvement. Well,

1233
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:57.359
thank you again, and they just
have patience. Again, Guardians fans,

1234
01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:02.439
we will do better. Appreciate all
the love and all all the stuff

1235
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:08.199
we get too. We will come
back bigger, faster and stronger next year.

1236
01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:12.000
Awesome, good luckily, thank you
so much, appreciate it. Thank

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01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:19.319
you brother huge Sprestal. Thanks to
all of our guests. Like I said,

1238
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:23.359
I know it was a crazy week
with the NFL Draft is kind of

1239
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:28.399
engulfing everybody's time. So really appreciate
Emory Tom and then chow Buckley for coming

1240
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:33.079
on the Guardians media team. If
we joked, if the Guardians could play

1241
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.399
on the field as well as the
comms team plays off the field, that

1242
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:40.000
you know, the Guardians would be
a force to be reckoned with. But

1243
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:43.640
I hope you guys enjoy I hope
you guys are enjoying the draft. Hope

1244
01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:46.520
you like the XFL playoffs. I
hope ratings go good. Like I said,

1245
01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:49.760
I got some spokes in the fire
to get one of some more sports

1246
01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:54.800
media people on next week to break
all that stuff down. Our ratings came

1247
01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:58.359
out this week when I was working, sure, I'm sure Twitter was fine.

1248
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:00.880
I was I was filming over at
a school for an auction video.

1249
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:04.960
But I'm sure Twitter was absolutely fine
when the USFL ratings came out this week.

1250
01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:09.159
But it should be good. We'll
see how they do against the XFL

1251
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:13.279
playoff games, and then obviously XFL
will be going away, so hopefully we'll

1252
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:16.960
see some boosts in the usfl our
ratings here are coming up here in two

1253
01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:19.159
weeks or I guess it would be
that we got the bye week and then

1254
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.319
the championship, So we'll see.
I'm sure they will figure it all out.

1255
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:25.920
Like I said, I can subscribe. Thank you guys so much for

1256
01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:29.039
your time, you know, busy
and taking the time to watch the show

1257
01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:31.840
with everything else going on in the
draft, and I hope your NFL team

1258
01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:35.319
got the best draft pick in the
world and that you did not throw any

1259
01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:40.479
remotes against your TV or anything else
with that. Thank you guys. We'll

1260
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:41.199
see you next time.

