WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:05.719 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the nonprofits. So how a conservatives group's 2 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:11.839 videos gained a fool in classrooms with the health from Republican officials. So in 3 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:17.600 a surprising dance between education and ideology, prager You, the conservative nonprofit renow 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:23.160 for its right wing misinformation videos, has found an uncommentional partner in public schools, 5 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:29.199 with a recent approval from educational agencies in four states, including a stamp 6 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:35.840 of enthusiasm from state officials and promotional videos prager You Kids cartoon materials are making 7 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:40.759 their way into classrooms. From critiquing universal health care for teens, so teaching 8 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:47.479 young children about Israel's Iron Dome. These videos have sparked concerns and debates over 9 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:54.920 potential right wing biases infiltrating education. As per you expands its foothold, the 10 00:00:54.960 --> 00:01:02.560 intersection of politics and school curriculum takes far to a common turn. This story 11 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:07.959 comes from MBC News by Tyler Kincaid and Antonia Hilton, publish on December thirtieth 12 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:12.640 of twenty twenty three. All Right, controversial topic here, everybody, Okay, 13 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:19.519 hot take. I don't care what parents teach their kids, even if 14 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.159 the ideology is against mine, because guess what, though, is shoitty. 15 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:27.040 I am not the arbitrator of parenting. Okay, so that out of the 16 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:34.560 way. I do have an issue with propaganda videos like teaching children about Israel's 17 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.920 iron dome. Ooh, that's really compelling contact to a care in your garner. 18 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:46.319 That's you know, that doesn't belong in public schools. This is not 19 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:51.640 why we pay our jaxes. So I definitely have a lot more to say 20 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:53.319 about this, but I'm going to take this over to Graham because I am 21 00:01:53.359 --> 00:02:00.840 sure he has many opinions about how fucking stupid this is. Yeah, this 22 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:04.719 is an you know, I want to be utterly angry about this, but 23 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:08.159 it is an actual It raises some legitimately interesting questions. But first, let's 24 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:14.439 talk about Prager You. In the past, they have produced videos opposing transgender 25 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:19.120 healthcare, topic we've talked about in another segment. They've produced videos suggesting that 26 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:23.080 Americans say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays. So they've got that religious, 27 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:27.400 sort of conservative background that's obvious to anybody that looks into them. But for 28 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.800 this Prager You Kids video that we're talking about, they have, as you 29 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:37.039 said, included lessons about why universal health care is horrible and it's worse than 30 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:40.080 the US's current system, the Iron Dome thing. They even have a segment 31 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:46.560 where two time traveling kids ask Christopher Columbus whether he enslaved Indigenous people, and 32 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:52.280 Columbus responds being taken as a slave is better than being killed and assists it's 33 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:57.199 a stupid o to judge him by modern moral standards. That is straight out 34 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:04.000 of the Lost Christian playbook as to how to respond when anybody asks them about 35 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.360 slavery in the Bible. Oh, well, it was different and it's stupid, 36 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.919 and it's a different time, and being a slave wasn't as bad as 37 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:14.240 is now today. These are the people that are getting their content in front 38 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.800 of our in front of our kids. They even did a video with Frederick 39 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:23.719 Douglas depicting of Frederick Douglas defending the Founding Fathers for not outlawing slavery. So 40 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.960 these are horrible people. This is why people like the SPLC, the Southern 41 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:32.960 Poverty Law Center have described prager You content as propaganda. And that's really the 42 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:38.479 complaint. This is propaganda, and so what can we do about it legally? 43 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:40.120 That's sort of that's always my approach what can we do about it legally? 44 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:46.879 Not much, right, school districts have a wide latitude to decide what 45 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:51.240 we teach kids, as long as what they teach is factual. So if 46 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:55.039 they are going to have these videos saying things that are false, and they 47 00:03:55.039 --> 00:04:01.319 have made videos, We've had researchers attack Praguer you for making videos mischaracterizing their 48 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.400 research on climate change to try to prove the opposite point, et cetera. 49 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:11.520 Then we might have some leg to stand on legally, But for now, 50 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.479 we need to get political about this. This is a political solution, I 51 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.920 think, because we're dealing with propaganda where they may actually say things that are 52 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:24.639 true. I'm educating you about the universal healthcare system and then I'm issuing maybe 53 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:29.920 an opinion, And because it's propaganda, we need to go to the courts, 54 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.560 and not the courts, excuse me. We need to go to our 55 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.720 representatives and say enough is enough. We're going to vote people out who put 56 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:40.079 this stuff in the classroom, and we may even pass laws about what is 57 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:46.279 and what is not taught. As far as propaganda versus education. My background 58 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.000 is in the law, and I've got an undergraduate in political science, and 59 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:53.759 it reminded me of an article a paper I read that was written in nineteen 60 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.519 thirty five. So you can imagine what the world look like in nineteen thirty 61 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:01.800 five, World War two, World War WI on over fascism on the rise, 62 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:06.120 propaganda being the way that people were trying to get trying to win over 63 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:12.439 people for fascism. The article is just entitled education and Propaganda, and it 64 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:17.959 says in it quote, propaganda consists in efforts to affect adult behavior. It 65 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:25.920 may be regarded as primarily designed to produce action or attitudes favorable to compliance with 66 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:30.000 action on the part of others. In other words, we can tell propaganda 67 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:34.839 from education because the purpose of propaganda is to produce action or favorable attitudes. 68 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:40.800 Right, and so that is what Prager used doing. And the politicians that 69 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.560 are on these school boards that are obviously conservative are going right along with it. 70 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:49.680 What is your take, Jimmy Well, I am never surprised that there 71 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:56.639 is kind of this religious undertone to these right wing groups, and they're never 72 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:01.439 far removed from blatant lives right. Do you bring religion into into the discussion. 73 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:05.519 You always have to kind of navigate around something that just is not true 74 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:11.319 and so these are just different opinions, but these are blatant lives that are 75 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:15.199 actually harmful to children. I do have an undergraduate in history, and while 76 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:20.480 I'm no expert, I would be shocked to learn that Frederick Douglass uh didn't 77 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:25.839 have a problem with the found the founding father's opinions of slavery. In fact, 78 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:29.839 I have a book called The Life and Times of Frederick Frederick Douglass UH, 79 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.959 and I don't remember, I don't remember ever reading that he was okay 80 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:39.120 with slavery. It would kind of go against his whole stance about slavery. 81 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:44.759 What do you thought for weird? Right? Right? Weird? So not 82 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.279 only are they are they lying to children, but then they're replacing their education, 83 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:53.360 uh with things that really aren't even pertinent to children. I mean, 84 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:59.759 talking about Israel's Iron Dome? Is that really appropriate in a context where you 85 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:03.879 are trying to teach morals? I mean that's what this is. This attempt 86 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:09.720 with these videos, are trying to at least program children morally based on this 87 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:14.839 code that's presented by religion, by Christianity. But are you really in the 88 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:18.399 right realm when you're talking about nuclear weapons and religious conflict? When you start 89 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:24.120 talking about maybe the Middle East and reasons for defense integrated air defense systems and 90 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.920 missiles and bombs and yahd yah. I mean I didn't get that in first 91 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.319 grade, you know, second grade, I didn't get any of that, 92 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.600 And it's probably a reason for that. That is a very complex thing to 93 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:40.759 bring up. I do have, you know, kind of this concern that 94 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:46.560 we can't judge what happened in the past by modern standards because they're just moving 95 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.160 the goalpost. I mean, we couldn't judge slavery in the Bible in two 96 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:56.759 thousand BCE by modern standards, but now we can't also judge slavery that happened 97 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.839 in the year fifteen hundred CE. I mean, when does it stop. 98 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.839 Slavery's happening now? Is it okay that's happening now? I know this slavery's 99 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:09.000 happening now. There is systematic sterilization of groups of people based on their ethnicity 100 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:15.519 taking place in concentration camps in the world today. So where is the line 101 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.040 drawn? I just think at some point somebody has to really make a change. 102 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.839 You know, it's going to take one of these people, like we 103 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:28.319 we've had a discussion earlier about a politician who stepped up and kind of turned 104 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.840 the corner on traditional conservative policies. Well, it's going to take that kind 105 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.559 of introspection for somebody to say, you know what am I really is? 106 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:39.559 Like? Am I? Am I doing the right thing? But this is 107 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.360 a money grab as well. So you got to remember that sometimes people really 108 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.720 don't even care what they're selling as long as it's making them rich. And 109 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.919 I think Prigger used probably benefiting that from that greatly. So yeah, that's 110 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.799 uh, those are my initial thoughts, Infidel, what do you say? 111 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.360 I would have to say that the person who would be most surprised at Frederick 112 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:05.200 Douglass supporting the Founding Fathers not abolishing slavery would have to be Frederick Douglas. 113 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.480 I think he would be rather surprised to find out he was okay with that. 114 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:16.240 But Prager wants the American education system to and resemble how was Generations a 115 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.240 go. He thinks there needs to be more attention to character development in schools 116 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:26.440 like thee nineteen thirties, he said, minus the bad things. Now, 117 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.480 you know, Jimmy already touched on the basis of where we were in the 118 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.720 thirties, so when you start talking about minus the bad things at that point, 119 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:39.120 that's a pretty big list for me, though. How dangerous is it 120 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:43.320 for someone who calls themselves an educator? How much trust did you have? 121 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:48.639 And someone who says I'm an educator who wants to return to the way we 122 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:50.799 did things almost one hundred years ago. I mean, that seems like the 123 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:56.240 antithesis of education is to say, let's go back in time. You know, 124 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.639 what does that mean? Is it when people of color knew their or 125 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:05.240 women didn't have any control over their lives or their bodies, or gays back 126 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.600 in the closet, good Christian values taught in our schools. I'm not sure 127 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.919 if I'm listening to Pregger you or a typical GOP rally. You know, 128 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:18.320 one thing I was appalled about is pregger You claims that they're in the mind 129 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:22.559 changing business. And this goes back to something that that you mentioned Cross, 130 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.159 is that this is not that's our education. When you're in the mind changing 131 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.480 business, you're you're in the business of a doctrination. You're you're you're you're 132 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.519 are. And of course he also argued that it teaches gratitude for being an 133 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.080 American and I'm not saying people shouldn't be glad to not be in some of 134 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.120 the places they could be in. But gratitude is something that you don't just 135 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:48.480 teach. It's something that's developed over an appreciation of actual events, not something 136 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.759 you teach in a classroom now. But you know, they're getting into these 137 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:58.159 schools through GOP politicians, as this story has pointed out. And we see 138 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.600 Ryan Walters, We've covered him, and he has absolutely thrilled about this. 139 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:09.759 And you know these pegger you kids cartoons promoting this propaganda material with the idea 140 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.759 right now for state educational systems agencies are actually approving it. The first of 141 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:18.799 course, Helen, being your Florida of course, I know you're so proud, 142 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:24.799 but I'm just sorry, Helen. Someone mentioned the Christopher Columbus video. 143 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.000 I watched it again here before this story, not too long ago, and 144 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.519 he talks about hell, yeah, you know, slavery, you know is 145 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.559 better than being dead, no, and all these little condescending things, and 146 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.720 he also talks about how it was good that Columbus spread Christianity. What is 147 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.919 the idea of Columbus spreading Christianity as a good thing doing in public schools? 148 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:54.080 You know, I heard his slavery is better than being dead, more calling 149 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:58.840 about other gods being bad, and of course praising Jesus Pegger. You know, 150 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:03.919 for me, it's more like Prague or puke. So with that in 151 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.679 mind, bark bag in hand, Helen, are you ready? Oh? 152 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:13.840 Oh yeah, I got some shit. Okay. Besides the fact that mister 153 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:20.200 Prager is using the term university super loosely, everybody like it is as a 154 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.240 as a thing. This and this stuff has already made its way into onto 155 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:31.279 college campuses, and there are young people and you know, young conservatives that 156 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:37.519 are eating this stuff up, and it's being used as part of political groups 157 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:43.240 on college campuses, and some of the rhetoric has made its way into classrooms. 158 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.519 Now I don't tend to have as much of a problem with that because 159 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:52.440 the idea is hopefully with some critical thinking and you know, ability to decipher 160 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.519 this that you know, they'll think a little bit more about like the content 161 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.960 that they're consuming, or is there choice if they want to now buy this 162 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.519 ship? You know. But what we're talking about impressionable children. And that's 163 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.080 where I have a problem, because I know, we keep talking about Christopher 164 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:13.399 for Columbus but the motherfucker did a genocide. Like he just didn't talk about 165 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.240 slavery, you know, like you didn't just enslave people. He killed a 166 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:26.440 Polynesian population, that's and that went instinct because of him and his and the 167 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.080 people that, you know, the Europeans he brought over to those islands. 168 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:33.679 So this was he isn't a He was a terrible, terrible human being and 169 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:39.159 also a freaking idiot. So just by the way he navigated, y'all, 170 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.679 he's just very good at getting the Spanish ground to give him money. So 171 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:48.679 you know, I'm just going to point that out now, my my feelings 172 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:54.559 Christo for a Columbus aside. Now, I don't know about you, but 173 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.679 when I was in school, I remember learning math, science, English, 174 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.679 getting your mom to do your science dynoramic as it was due the next day 175 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.639 and you forgot to get it done, and you know, you conor into 176 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.639 helping you out so you get a good grade, you know, like stuff 177 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:15.519 like that, normal things, you know. And I'm really frustrated because this 178 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:22.399 is in doctrination into nationalism that we don't question Christianity, we don't question what 179 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.559 question question? Oh my god, I forgot how to say that word, 180 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:33.120 question things that are being taught about. You can't question the you know, 181 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.360 greatness of the United States. You can't question Christianity. You can't you know, 182 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.799 question slavery. You know, that's what propaganda is designed to do, 183 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:46.080 to make you fall into one side, your side is correct, and to 184 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:50.879 adopt these ideas. And these are impressionable children. And I don't think this 185 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:56.000 should be done in schools. Like again, I'm not the arbitraarrior of parenting, 186 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.360 you know, but but and I can't stop other people or what they're 187 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.159 going to teach to children. You know, we all know this, but 188 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.639 when you're in a classroom, you should be teaching facts, not propaganda. 189 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:13.480 And that's what's so disgusting about this is that these aren't facts. These aren't 190 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.240 about the things that really happened. Because like I remember, when I was 191 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.039 in public school and we learned about slavery, it was not excuse. We 192 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:26.879 talked about the whoores that happened and how terrible it was, and that stuck 193 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:31.039 with you. We learned about World War Two and what happened in Germany. 194 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.200 That sticks with you, and it should Those are the things that should stay 195 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.879 with you when you learn about you know, the real reality of history, 196 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.799 and regardless of religion or not, all types of people do bad things throughout 197 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:48.519 history, and those are the things that we should question and get kids to 198 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:54.399 actually learn what really happened. Don't try to sugarcoat it, don't try to 199 00:15:54.440 --> 00:16:00.519 make it into some glossy picture to push an ideology onto children. And fuck 200 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.559 you Dennis Prager for putting that shit in front of our kids. And that's 201 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:08.200 all I gotta say. Go ahead, Graham. Well, following that, 202 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:17.360 uh I find myself in agreeance with all of you to to quibble one bit, 203 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:22.519 Helen quibble. I agree. I agree that when they are citing their 204 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.960 opinions that is not a fact. But the tricky part, the reason I 205 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:30.039 said this is an interesting story is you have two from a legal perspective, 206 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:38.000 you have two particularly interesting questions. One who gets to choose which facts get 207 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:45.679 presented in the classroom, because you can create papaganda by only presenting true statements 208 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:52.120 but an incomplete picture like uh I did a story once on the on the 209 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:57.879 McDonald hot coffee case right where a lady was in her car spilled hot coffee 210 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:02.679 on herself and ended up winning millions and millions of dollars, and the press 211 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.559 went crazy with it. And that's what the Republicans said, all of them 212 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:11.480 true facts. They use those facts to convince the country to enact tort reform 213 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.359 that damaged every single citizen. Right, it limited their ability to recover. 214 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.000 When giant companies chop their arm off at the factory or where where obgu i 215 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:26.200 ns are severely negligent, and your child is now brain damage for their life, 216 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:27.960 you can only collect a million bucks. Sorry, I know they need 217 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:32.039 twenty five million for the rest of their life. You only get a million, 218 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.839 they said. Facts. They just left out all this other other facts 219 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:38.960 that would give a reasonable person pause. Right, they would cause them to 220 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.319 go, well, wait a second, these facts make it seem like this. 221 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:47.880 But now when you tell me these other facts, it's outrageous that this 222 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.000 lady got as little amount of money as she did from McDonald's. So to 223 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.720 wrap up to talk about their true motives, prager, you you know, 224 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.799 choosing the you know choose. They want you to help politicians choose which facts 225 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:06.359 get presented and then embed these opinions that are implied or stated in the form 226 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:11.160 of these sock puppet conversations between Columbus and some kids and all of that. 227 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:17.559 They are promoting behind the scenes a religious agenda. And to give you an 228 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:21.160 example, I looked up their twenty twenty three annual report. On the cover 229 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:22.680 and you can go to the prager you site, there's a link there for 230 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.319 this report. On the cover there is a young child with an American flag 231 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.160 running across a field, and below it there is a quote, you shall 232 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:34.440 teach these commandments diligently to your children. You should talk to them when you 233 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.480 dwell in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when 234 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:41.480 you lie down and when you rise. Where does that come from? Deuteronomy 235 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:47.880 six seven? And below that there's letters in Hebrew that says something that I 236 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:53.039 can't even read, sort of trying to further propagate this sort of myth of 237 00:18:53.960 --> 00:19:00.079 Judaeo Christianity that was created by evangelicals in the last several decades to try to 238 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.480 get more votes from the Jewish population of the United States. So they are 239 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:08.599 on their cover of their annual report saying Christian quote quote from a Bible, 240 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:12.559 we are going to teach our children about the ten commandments. That's all you 241 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:15.799 really need to know to know what their motivations are well, they can teach 242 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:18.799 their own children whatever they want, and they can do it inside their own 243 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.960 house. I don't see why or how this is even being subsidized by the 244 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.759 government, because this is a blatant constitutional violation in my opinion. You know, 245 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:33.960 I'm no legal expert, but when you have a public funded school that 246 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:40.640 is teaching well lies about history number one, but also one that is centered 247 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.279 on Christianity, then you find yourself in the dilemma of violating that constitutional right 248 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:49.440 where the state is not going to sponsor religion. And to that point, 249 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:55.599 I want to just well point to the Constitution because regardless of our competing interests, 250 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.000 these political parties that are constantly a war with each other are different religions 251 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.160 and our different world views, et cetera. You know, we are all, 252 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.920 despite our differences, American by virtue of the fact that we share an 253 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:14.000 administrative culture. Via the Constitution, we are guaranteed certain rights. So when 254 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:19.880 we have political opponents accusing each other of being un American, you know it 255 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.119 would do us well to remember that each of us, despite our differences, 256 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:29.279 are very much American. The problem that we're running into, though, is 257 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:33.599 that these rights don't equally apply to everybody, and that is on American and 258 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:38.000 we as Americans have a responsibility to make that work. We also have a 259 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:44.599 responsibility to check each other on how we are bringing our beliefs into the public 260 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.319 sphere and remind each other that they belong in their own private sphere. And 261 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.200 you know, that's basically all I have on that. So I'm proud to 262 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.160 be an American, an atheist American, and I'm going to teach my kids 263 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.240 to think for themselves and not just believe everything they hear. But Jimmy, 264 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.960 their report has a child on the cover with an American flag. I don't 265 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:10.920 understand why you're upset, because I was that child once. Yeah, that's 266 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:18.359 why. Listen, Jimmy, it's it's America first with Christianity and fuck the 267 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:26.000 rest. Okay, just get in line, man, Just get in line. 268 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:32.640 I mentioned Oklahoma Superintendent Walters, and we've talked about him before. He 269 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:37.119 is He's went on record saying that the separation of church and state is a 270 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.759 myth. So understanding that someone coming from that perspective is so excited about Preger 271 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:48.200 you material coming to school children in his state, I understand why, and 272 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:55.000 I do think that there is a real questionable situation that this article brought out 273 00:21:55.279 --> 00:22:03.640 about how Prager's tactics were actually coordinated with elected officials in these states on how 274 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.920 they were going to get this passed and how to spoon feed this to the 275 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:12.559 legislature and to get this approved in the classrooms. And that is very unsettling 276 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:18.279 to think that they're taking their views, that they can have what ever views 277 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.680 they want to on church on Sunday, but when they appear show up at 278 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.240 the office on Monday, those views need to take a backseat to that job 279 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.160 or they need to find a new one. And that's something we've covered here 280 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:38.559 before recently. So that's what my biggest takeaway is the constitutionality. I get 281 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:45.559 that gray area of you speak half truth and you spoon feed the lie underneath 282 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:49.079 it, and it's okay because well, I spoke the truth. Not when 283 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:53.880 you start talking about Jesus and they literally talk about Jesus and they literally talk 284 00:22:53.960 --> 00:23:00.920 about those other religions that he brought Jesus to them from, and that type 285 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.880 of thing. At least I hope that it can be clear cut that there's 286 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:11.000 simply no place in our educational system for this type of discussion or video or 287 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:15.759 this what I almost consider a bad version of veggie Tails with a little more 288 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:29.160 religion on top. So don't you dare if you have nobody sees me on 289 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:33.200 the show next week, you know what happened. And with that, I'm 290 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:38.319 going to be quiet and pass it on to Helen. Please do. And 291 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:42.519 since you pass it on to me, if you want to know more about 292 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:47.559 how you can, you know, fight for things like the separation of church 293 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.119 and state and what we can do to make to make our schools a better 294 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:52.519 place, check out from your YO