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We are alive here today with Salvator
Pious, one of my favorite people on

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the planet. Right now, he
is doing my first ever interview. This

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is going to be hard truse with
Salvator Pious and Ashton Forbes. So right

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off the bat, sir, go
ahead and introduce yourself. Never ever call

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me sir number one, call me
brother. That really goes to the soul

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with me. So Ashton, thank
you very much. This is an honor

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to be your first interview. So
I'm pretty sure there will be a lot

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more after this one. Trust me
on that now, and I hope to

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be in further interviews as well.
That'd be great. Now, all right,

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let me give a disclaimer right off
the bat. I'm required to do

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this, so I come on this
podcast as a private citizen and the let's

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say, the statement, speculations,
opinions that I make are in no way

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implicating the United States Navy nor the
United States Space Force. They are my

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own and as such I shall present
them. Now. Can I give five

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minutes? So arg and okay,
floor is yours, sal The floor is

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yours, Thank you, sir.
I was born in Romania. I'm very

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proud of my Romanian heritage. You
can call me American apple pie made in

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Romania. I just love hearing that. I heard it once before. It

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I like that, so I will
say something in Romanian so people are convinced

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that I'm from that Roman Treasca Roman
Treasca Romania and n uh Basically it says

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I'm very proud of be Romanian,
hooray for the Romanian people, hooray for

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Romania, and nothing without God.
And as far as why I'm here,

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uh we. A friend of mine
told me that they have changed right after

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the Timber and Tour interview where I
gave an interesting rendition of the Piace effect

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called police affect resurgence. By the
way, I practically implore your audience and

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everyone on the livestream to google the
police affect resurgence. Those three words Piace

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affect resurgence. It goes directly to
a Timber and Tura page. We will

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tell one day whether it's taken down
or that it's you know, another little

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point in the spectrum. Let's call
it that. Yeah. So basically in

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Wikipedia and October eighteenth, I believe
this year they changed right after the interview,

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almost they changed to say that my
work now represents a scam, a

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pseudoscience disinformation when you go into bing. Now, the AI agent never before

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has it done this. It caused
my work crack Potter, and it's almost

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as if my work is starting to
have a concerted effort to be undermined shadow

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Band, and you have to question
why, especially after the Timbentur interview.

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You have to see that to see
where I'm coming from now, it is

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very important to also understand that I
challenge the mainstream physics community to send their

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best. We're talking about people like
Carver Mead. We're talking about people like

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Seth Lloyd, next Uh, Max
Tech, Mark, David Gross, Uh,

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Brian Keating, Stepan Alexander, Yeah, others, Frank Wilcheck any Nobel

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Prize winner they have out there.
I wish to have a committee whereupon I'm

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given one hour. I'll go to
the blackboard and prove to them that the

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Piace effect and the super forse concept
are correct. I'll show them exactly how

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they were derived. They're extremely simple
and minimalistic math. I believe in Arkham's

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razor. I do not believe that
mathematical acrobatics should pass for great physics.

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As a matter of fact, I
believe the simpler the mathematics, the more

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important the physics, especially if you
have a good understanding of what the problem

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is. Many times great physics is
found by accident, is not actually looked

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for. And one other thing that
I wish to mention also is that this

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is no new physics. This is
a new perspective on all physics. And

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this is what makes it incredibly interesting
because there's so many things out there that

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have not been tried yet. It
is as if classical electromagnetism theory has been

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put aside the moment quantum theory came
in a lot of things that we're introduced

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by Oliver Heavyside into the equation of
Jim squat Maxwell where sidelined and things they

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should have been looked at weren't.
Anyway, I will not There's one more

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thing that I need to say,
because it we have to be careful exactly

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how I answer certain questions on the
Poe effect, because unfortunately, as almost

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every other piece of physics out there, the pace effect can be weaponized and

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it can create a super weapon of
world weapons, a weapons of such incredible

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power as to render the Teller Ulam
device a pop gun in comparison, and

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this is not ubras this is mathematics
and physics. Now, it is also

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important to realize that a weapon of
this nature, any army, and I

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mean any army that would feel the
weapon of this nature first, would become

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invincible. Number one, number two, and this is incredibly hot. It's

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very, very important to understand.
What this super weapon would represent is a

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new epoch in deterrence. No sane
nation is suicidal, and any insane nation

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should not exist. Hence, let's
leave the super weapon in the realm of

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physics. But let let the audience
know, let your live stream know that

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certain things numbers, frequency, ranges, spectrums I cannot discuss. This is

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something that can be quite detrimental to
national security if taken in the how should

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I say from the incorrect perspective?
So I will not even touch on that

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if I I hope I have you
understanding that if I disagree with a question,

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I will try to be as as
polite as possible, but I will

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say, in the interest of national
security, I can unanswer that question.

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Yeah, so you already went through
like four of my questions right there from

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your interview, from your intro right
there, and I just want to agree

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with you on that front. You
know, I've heard you say multiple times

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that you are not a spy and
you are not a patriot. I am

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also not a spy and I am
a patriot as well. And to that

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sense, the thing I would bring
up is, this is actually one of

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the optional things I was going to
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just kind of addressed it, is
that My opinion is that most likely our

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foreign adversaries have already potentially figured out
this type of technology if what you're going

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to be telling to us is true, And what that means from a humanities

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perspective is we need to be very
responsible with this technology. Because I agree

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with you. I talked about it
last night in my space that mutual as

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short destruction. But it's a whole
different epoch of deterrents that we are not

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just nuclear weapons anymore. Now we're
talking about something else millions of time.

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I was more dangerous that can modify
space time. And as a matter of

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fact, the Shwingle limit breaking breaking
the Shwingle limit points to that fact.

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This is physics, This is not
This is not crack pottery, this is

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fiction. It's just absolutely not sometimes
I wish it was. It is not

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science fiction. This is science fact. And I'm like you, if I

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accidentally call you sir, it's just
a matter of respect. I do that

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a lot for people that I respect, and you're one of the people.

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I have the same thing. Don't
take personal offense. If I do it.

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My own boss is like, stop
calling me. He's a great dude.

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Yeah, So you're ready to diget
into this thing because I think that

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you touched on part of what I
want to begin with, which is you've

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mentioned in your previous podcast, and
I don't want to rehash all the stuff

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that you've talked about before, especially
with Kurt, who I thought you had

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a great interview with. I listened
to the whole thing, and he's a

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very smart guy, especially when he
was talking about quantum gravity. I just

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thought, Wow, this guy is
super intelligent, well courage I mongo is

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truly a theoretical thing. If he
was representative of the mainstream physics community and

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he had to say, I'm one
hundred percent that at least you'll give me

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a hearing. Yep, at least, And I think our plan here what

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I want to do is hopefully vindicate
you in their eyes as well, and

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get that hearing that you want,
because I think that what we're going to

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be talking about today, the physics
that we're going to be going over,

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is practical. It's stuff that can
really exist, and we need to make

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sure that it gets the proper respect. And that kind of goes into my

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first question and point is that you've
mentioned that your papers were submitted to I

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believe Cornell, and they wouldn't publish
them without a sponsor, right, Why

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do you think that is? What
do you think your view is there?

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Cornelli University Archive is in my opinion, the best three print service of all

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time. As a matter of fact, once you publish an Archive, most

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likely your paper will be published in
a highly impacted journal, if at least

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not a high impact, at least
a moderate impact journal. So in other

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words, one hundred percent your paper
will be published. So I have great

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respect for Archive. The fact that
they need sponsors. Maybe it's quite possible

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that a lot of individuals put certain
physics in there. That is, I

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look, Joe the plumber can write
a physics paper if he understands the precept,

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the foundational, the fundamentals of physics. Once you understand them. You

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can write a physics paper, and
even Joe the Plumber can publish an archive

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if he has a sponsor, unfortunately, But the whole idea being is we're

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not living in the time of Einstein, where basically a Swiss patent clerk can

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get five papers published. This is
the Anno mirabilis, the year of the

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greatest five papers, in my opinion, that open physics to a whole different

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dimension of of of of of of
reality, of possibility. Conditional There's no

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such things impossibility, the only conditional
possibilities. But to go back to the

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idea of why I think Archive is
blocking and needs a sponsor is sometimes you

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can judge. You cannot just go
on Archive and say, look, Einstein

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was wrong and here's that please.
You know, there there have been so

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many proofs as to the fact that
the gravitational field equations of Einstein must be

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at least partially correct because there's so
much experimental evidence for it. So bring

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if you have a theoretical argument against
Einstein, then you must argue from a

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very strong mathematical and physical background and
also present experimental proof, and some of

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these papers, unfortunately do not.
Now I understand where they're coming from.

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How Whoever, in my opinion,
we do not live in the time of

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Planck and Einstein and Heisenberg and the
great ones. Even Fireman, I mean

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Fireman is about nineteen fifties. Still
we don't know. So I think that's

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hard to publish. And sometimes people
that should not even get there because they

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know the editor or the chief at
a Please nepotism in physics, I'm permissible,

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And that's what I would argue as
well. Just not to cut you

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off, but I think that I
agree with you there, And what I

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would argue is that academia's kind of
forgotten what science is, right. Science

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is a scientific method. It's the
study of observable reality, of being able

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to experiment and be able to prove
concepts, you know. And I think

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that now what you just pointed out
is that it's been inundated with credentialism,

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right, and saying who do you
know? On what do you know?

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And so you know. One kind
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of closing that bit off, because
I think that you have been done at

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disservice, is that sometimes seeing is
believing, you know. Imagine if we

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had video proof or experimental proof out
there that could prove your concepts right.

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Maybe that would give another level of
credibility to the things that you're saying.

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Absolutely, sir, experiment Trump's theory
every time. Again, experiment Trump's theory

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every time. And it's an interesting
verb and a lot of people get a

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little itchy when they hear that word. But still experiment Trump's theory every time.

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Now, can I just give a
quick edition of the poace affect Resurgence.

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Oh, it's important for people to
before. In my papers, actually

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in my patents, there was one
paper that I was able to publish in

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a high impact journal. I triply
try Action some plasma science. It's on

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the plasma compression fusion device. And
the chief editor had two two different I

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went through two different review boards.
I mean it took a long time.

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As you can see if you look, it took a long time for me

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to publish respective. I went back
and forth, argue this argue, but

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at least they were open minded enough
to realize it was something new, something

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worthy of being seen. Again.
This is all I asked for, is

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a chance to express myself, to
express this physics that I think can have

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some meaning to the progress of civilization. I want nothing more. I don't

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want royalties, I don't want money
for that. I don't want anything except

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the progress of civilization. We need
unification of civilization in order that we do

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not perish from desert. I'm afraid
of the future, sir. It looked

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extremely blank at this point than time, and we have we either come together

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and as one unification, one unified
civilization, or we shall perish. That's

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what I've said many times as well. Actually, and I think that what

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you said about science is very accurate
too, and that the way I've seen

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science too is that it can be
encrusted, very molded, and then it

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takes somebody to push it forward,
break through the barrier, right And with

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your science, that's what I see, is that I see that people don't

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want to believe in it because they
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if they were just look at your
math and look at your models, I

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think that they would realize that there's
something there that's actually substantial and then it

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can push us forward. The thing
you said about unification, I say that

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almost every single time, is that
we live in such a divided world right

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now, where if we get that
unification. This science could potentially be that

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thing that unifies us towards common purpose. Right. The physics of the super

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force, in my opinion, can
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The two should not be driven apart. The one and the same, one

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manifestation of the other. All is
one, One is all. This is

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the true basis of hermeticism, and
this is a true basis of all future

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of civilization. If we have a
chance to survive, this is it unification

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of civilization. It has to be
a common goal, a common objective.

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And why not. I remember at
one point Eric Weinstein, as a matter

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of fact, mention one time travel. Maybe this should be our final objective

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to leave this Earth, break the
tackles of Earth, break the bounds of

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Earth, and become an interstellar civilization
that maybe, just maybe will give us

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a chance for survival. The road
that we are currently on is total abysmal

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in perdition. I couldn't agree more
so, let's sake, let's tack your

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detrip quickly. Oh I was going
to go to that in just a second.

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I think that's the next question,
if you don't mind, Because what

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I want to do is I want
to debunk this. There's a debunk of

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a debunk of you. So the
biggest thing I think your detractors mentioned when

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we talk about your patents. They
claim that you can patent anything. Now,

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what I read or from watching your
last interview, is that only three

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of your five patents were even approved, which to me would indicate that it's

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not true. So I would like
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There's very simple way to debunk the
I don't even know what the correct

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terminology is anymore. For example,
I don't use uap UFOs. You shouldn't

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have raised seventy years of history just
because I'm thinking that new terminology would somehow

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eliminate the derision. The derision is
far more basic than that history is important,

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sir. Yep, never forget,
never forget history, okay, But

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anyway, the way to argue that
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great primary examiner called Philip Bonzell of
USPTO. Oh my goodness, him and

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I went back and forth between him
Mark Blute, who is the United States

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never patent lawyer and also a good
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This trust me. Anybody that can
write those and also the office actions.

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You should see what Mark did.
You should see what Mark Blue did

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with the office actions. In response
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mean he really bit into the physics. He said, you cannot tell me

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that it's possible to create electric fields
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votes per meter and induction magnetic induction
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and your order of ten to the
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to remember that it's equal c being
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anyway, so that's how I remember
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exactly that you create E and B
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pace effect, Is it okay?
If I give yeah, I think that's

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a good segue. That was my
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What's your definition of the Pioce effect
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can be thought of as controlled motion
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plasma undergoing rapid acceleration transients via accelerated
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very high energy densities being formed.
Because remember, the electromagnetic energy flux is

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really the speed of light c times
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Sorry sometimes I drift into my my
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the electric field square. So see
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That is your s your the magnitude
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it. That's the electromagnetic flux.
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on the order of ten to the
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really corresponds to a energy density,
and the or of ten to the twenty

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five chools for me the tube.
Then we can break the Shingle limit.

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If we can achieve anything past that
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it this way, vacuum DK complete
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limit is really the achievement that,
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fabric of space time it is unraveled, it breaks apart, it tears apart,

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and you can see it by the
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This quite a bit now ration give
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is the only time all interrupt because
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I call it the resurgence of the
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the price effect is all about is
to say it's really the generation of extremely

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high energy densities that are obtained by
the accelerated vibration and or accelerated spend of

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a non equilibrium plasma. Then means
the plasma that's out of equilibrium. You

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can think of that. They have
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and you know, non thermal plasma. And it really has to do the

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the electrons of this plasma. Uh. They talked to the plasma density very

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high. I cannot go into numbers, but anyway, okay, so what

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right? So these but uh,
the the the number of these electrons do

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not observe something called Maxwell Boltzmann distribution. That's what a cold plasma is all

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about, an out of equilibrium or
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far from equilibrium, every particular vibrational
frequency. Yeah, you can X,

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you can induce extremely high energy densities. Yeah, if if you do this

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locally, think of it. You
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sometimes you know, some crazy stuff. But anyway, think of it as

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a stake. You take the meat
tenderizer, you know, the big hammer,

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and you keep on pummeling at the
same spot over and over. What

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do you see? Eventually? A
hole? Ye? All? Ain't that

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interesting? So is that the vibrational
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What I'm describing is the unraveling,
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of the space time fabric at a
quantum level determined by this incredible amount of

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energy density that is put at that
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in a particular point, the more
that in that locality space time will break

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apart, will tear apart, And
it's possible that a hole, a hole

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will develop like a black hole,
almost if we truly understand what a black

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hole is. But you see,
I just like Frank Worldship. See Frank

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wild Chip also believes in the materiality
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we we're dealing I'm not quite sure
if it's a crystal lattice when I talk

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about time crystals here, even though
that's another thing that Professor Wilcheck is greatly

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known for. But we're talking about
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a super fluid, but it also
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it. And that's what my super
Forwar speaks to mine. It's quite possible

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others have come up with these ideas
before, but the equation one in that

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super Force paper, and please post
the super Force paper and also the AI

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double A paper and also the I
tripolitps paper to your life stream and send

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it to everyone. You know,
those three papers best represent my work.

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I believe in the in the number
three like a great man that that once

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lived. And I shall not mention
because I mentioned him before and many and

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he trust me. This Nicola Tesla
will go down in history as one of

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the greatest we've ever had. And
and and the way he was treated abysmo,

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absolutely abysmo. That dude, JP
Morgan, watch out, watch out

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if you know what I mean anyway, Yeah, yeah, so yeah,

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I think that interesting enough. So
I think for people who are in the

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chat. You know what you just
said about the papers. I posted them

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on my Twitter before. I'll throw
them in the description later on as well.

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But share those papers, sal here
is telling you guys that you know,

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share far and wide. Those are
very important. Now with respect to

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some of the what you're talking about
around the pious effect, you know,

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I think that what I saw one
of your past interviews too, is that

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using vibrations as opposed to spin is
potentially more beneficial. Can you explain that

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a little bit, yes, sir, you can. For example, the

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we we tried an experiment called the
high energy Electromagnetic field generator to see whether

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we can get the magnitudes of the
pointing dector, namely the electromagnetic energy fluxus

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very high up based on accelerated spin
of an electrically charged object. Unfortunately,

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we could not get an electric charge
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You put that in that sigma square
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density squared, and you'll see it's
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ten to the minus sixteen going against
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make the test section very small to
it still however, for anyone that's out

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there and wants to see further what
the high energy electro Magnetfield General Experiment brought.

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I encouraged them for a fire and
actually get the unclassified report. There

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were two anomalies. There were two
anomalies that were observed. As a matter

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of fact, some very highly placed
people from the Technical Committee of the Senate

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Arm Services Committee came two navy packs
to interrogate, how should I say,

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the members of the Invention Evaluation Board
on why they passed these five pattern applications

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because a lot of people said that, if anything, these should have been

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classified. So there was a whole
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Service Committee to investigate. I'm pretty
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names, but they have said,
oh, this was a scam. This

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was a total h misappropriation of funds, even though we're talking about only what

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point five million for like I don't
know, like fifty people of a period

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of three years. Please, I
mean through the math and you'll see what

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I'm talking about compared to some of
the stuff that's going on. And by

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the anyway, I shall I shall
not make it too dark now, So

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the whole idea being is there's a
report out there, it's unclassified and it

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talks about two and so even with
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coulans instead of the one Kulamb needed
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we're truly looking for to observe certain
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the report, So that's interesting.
Yeah, I'm mental observations. We're not

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talking about theory here. We talk
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too, related to as accelerated vibration, like what's the delivery mechanism? Can

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a laser do that? Or can
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sure? Sure? I just speak
with it, but only in the general.

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Yeah, just the point, just
the point that it is very interesting

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that the twenty twenty three Physics Nobel
Prize went for what electron dynamics induced by

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ATO second lasers? Yeah, into
the minus eighteen second lasers. Very interesting.

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We're not talking about fental second,
we're talking about ato second. There's

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a reason, so let me say, let me just leave it there.

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Interesting. Yeah, are you familiar
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have some familiarity with that, Yes, sir, so I I would rather

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not discuss that portion. It has
something to do with certain things. So

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yeah, that's fine, So let's
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in terms of your patents, and
this might be a question, I

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don't know if you can answer or
not, but do you think that these

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patents are operable today? Yes,
sir anology. See a lot of people

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have questioned on that, and I
said, how did the uspeak your publishers

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they were not properly enabled, because
you know they are. All the ingredients

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are there, but you have you
have to know what you're doing. Number

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one. Number two, it is
important to understand the nature of the materials,

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the piece of electrics, exactly how
they operate. For example, what

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is the main difference between strontium and
titan a barying titan Aight? What exactly

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is something called the most power effect? Anyway, I mentioned it actually in

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a publication of Mind, one of
the few papers I was able to actually

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publish in a journal, but only
because it was in the beginning of the

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journal. And I think my opinion
is is that the chief editor needed papers

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for anything, and he was taken
aback by by the the what's what's the

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best the ambition of the idea.
Let's let's put it was actually the High

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Energy Electromagnetic Field Generator. That paper
that I published, I think it was

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the International Journal Journal of Space Science
and Engineering. And trust me, I

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tried to publish the super Force paper
the same journal, thinking, you know,

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I published the Conditional Possibility of Spacecraft
of Space Ambitional Possibility of spacecraft propulsion

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at superluminal speeds, and that high
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I think it was volume three of
I think I think it was Issue

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Anyway, it was. They were
both published in the same volume. One

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of them is a technical note,
the other as a full fledged paper,

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a technical paper. I try to
publish the super FORSE paper in the same

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journal. They would not. It's
as if my name is on some sort

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of a blacklist. You know,
they mean, oh, Salva, tope,

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no, no, no, just
I'm talking about sending papers and having

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rejections within a matter of twelve to
fifteen hours. Wow, that's interesting what

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I'm saying. I don't know.
Have you ever gotten the my results?

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Are changing quickly. If I google
you right now, is that going to

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happen? It's a bit of a
badge of honor, you know, I

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between you and I. I have
some friends back in New York City that,

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how should I say? They watch
for my statistics. One of them

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said, one time I googled your
name because he watched. He actually has

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to go charge of it. He
said that at one point in time,

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when you google salvatopies, you got
over three hundred million results, and all

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of a sudden it dropped to like
seven million, and then it went up.

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He had no idea what was going
on. He said, this is

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not possible. Well, what are
we talking about here? I mean,

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you have numbers higher than Andrew Date. But oh, I hope I didn't

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get anybody cancer from you. I
don't think so it's not anyway. So

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I think I wanted to jump into
the super force in your equation number one,

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which you wanted to talk about,
because I read through your paper.

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I looked through all the patents as
well, trying to do my best as

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a layment to understand them. And
when I look at your super force,

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uh, you know, especially with
equation number one, it basically says that

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if you look carefully at the mathematical
structure of the plank force, you can

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realize that this is the super force. It does not contain the h bar

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for you say this, namely the
modified reduce plant concept. Therefore, it

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can relate to quantum phenomena exhibiting macroscopic
classical behavior, namely a macroscopic quantum phenomenon.

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Now, when I look at that, I think, are we talking

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about a unification of quanta and macro? And is that how you would argue

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your equations? Here? Absolutely,
sir, Equation one speaks to exactly what

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you're talking about. And as a
matter of fact, page two of that

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it's just a three page paper.
I mean, anybody for goodness sake.

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Oh maybe that's why I got a
fifteen hour rejection because it was extremely fast.

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But you know, just that equation
one, yeah, is so powerful

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because I will tell you what it
says. It actually says, it's the

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super force that is the energy gradient
at both the plank scale and the energy

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gradient at the horizon scale, which
is when to talk about observable universe.

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How is that possible that the superforce
can be the energy gradient at the very

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lowest scales, signifying the lowest of
our realms, the quantum realm, and

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also the highest that we understand,
the observable universe. Not only that,

408
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I believe because of the way it's
fashioned. For example, if one day

409
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:19.199
we were to find out that our
universe doesn't have an observable radius, say

410
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:23.880
of like and the order of ten
to the twenty ten to the twenty seven

411
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:29.000
meters, it has something on the
order of ten to the eighty meters or

412
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.280
something of that nature, that equation
would give you how much mass is in

413
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:37.119
that structure, which would think what
that means. It means really we're living

414
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:43.039
in some sort of a matrix like
the space time geo metal structure that can

415
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:51.440
be altered the constructor construct the construct
of some sorts, which is I'm not

416
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.800
going to talk to the simulation hypothesis
because I think this is very real.

417
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:04.119
I believe when I pinch myself it
really hurts. So so I'm Einstein said

418
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:08.840
something far far, far more subtle
and far more philosophical nature, and namely,

419
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.840
he believes that the moon is still
there even though he's not looking.

420
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.199
That's a good argument. Yeah,
And I think that we can the spiritual

421
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:20.440
stuff we can dig into potentially,
and then the follow up interview because I

422
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.400
think that that we probably are on
the same wavelength there in terms of our

423
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.920
beliefs on that. And but the
only thing I would say is that from

424
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.760
my own personal perspective, the more
I dig into the science and dig around

425
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:31.840
the science, especially on this,
the more spiritual actually become. I thought

426
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:35.840
it would be the opposite, but
it turns out that no. I think

427
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.519
that I have more of a spiritual
understanding the more I dig into science,

428
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.519
which is very interesting. And I
want the equation one from now on to

429
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.840
be addressed at as the super Folis
equation. You know, if it Mitchokaku

430
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:51.440
can can say that he's you know, he has the God equation, then

431
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.960
you know, I think my humorous
level is far lower by saying it's mine.

432
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.360
Okay, it was your the way
to explain it. I think I've

433
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.159
heard you say before. As well
as the super force is acting on space

434
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:07.039
time, geometric structure, all points
in space and time as well. Absolutely

435
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:13.840
it also speaks to quantum entanglement.
Then every point in space and time is

436
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:17.599
connected because of the existence of the
super force. Yes, it exists at

437
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:22.039
ten to the minus thirty five meters, which is the flank length. But

438
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.920
still it Oh, one more thing
the super force equation speaks to, which

439
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.719
is when I realized that, I
said, whoa, whoa, whoa,

440
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.039
Oh my goodness, if you put
in that equation. Okay, So the

441
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:39.880
super force the equation for is C
to the power of four divided by big

442
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.599
G. So it basically says speed
of light to the fourth power divided by

443
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:52.639
big G. And if you put
in if you realize there's such a thing,

444
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:57.440
for example, okay, if it
talks to an energy ingredient at every

445
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.920
scale, because that's what equation one
really says. If it goes from the

446
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.719
very smallest to the very highest,
maybe it goes for everything in between.

447
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.800
So I tried the mass of the
proton. Guess what the super force says?

448
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:15.360
Okay, I put in the mass. So in the super force being

449
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.320
mc square divided by that characteristic length, I put in the mass of the

450
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.599
proton, which which is like ten
to the minus twenty seven kilograms. And

451
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:28.440
guess what I get. I get
a characteristic length, and your ordered what

452
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:34.400
the Shuret Child radius for proton.
So the proton is treated by the super

453
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.440
force as a black hole. No
wonder the proton takes so long to decay.

454
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:44.519
If ever, that is an amazing
equation. The super force equation will

455
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:50.360
one day be known by physics everywhere. I hope you know, and I

456
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.480
do not mind if they do read
arrive it they call it their own.

457
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.880
But at least you know, somewhere
in a footnote they say, you know,

458
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:01.599
some crack pad called Paise thought of
this tool. You know, we're

459
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:07.039
not going to tell you. I
know that you're sensitive as well about what

460
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.000
people call you, and I think
that that's part of the vindication that I

461
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.480
want to go through with you as
well, is that I tell you,

462
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.000
sir, I've been. I've been. I mean, we talk about blood,

463
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:21.840
tears, sweat, and misery of
the mind and the soul of this.

464
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:28.280
Because the moment they called my work, and I understand, maybe I

465
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.840
understand, I'm not quite sure exactly
why the drive wars on't called my papers,

466
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:37.119
the UFO patents, the UFO Mayvy
patterns. The moment again, it

467
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:42.800
became a symbol of ridicule, and
mainstream physicists would not even look at that

468
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.920
because again symbol of derision. And
I understand why they changed the terminology to

469
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.639
UAP, but you shouldn't because we're
talking about the history of so many people

470
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:57.280
that were involved in the subject matter, and for them and them alone,

471
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:02.239
we should leave that term. As
is my opinion that you and UFO should

472
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.559
be unacknowledged. I agree with you
in the UFO thing as well. And

473
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.599
I also don't want to link your
work to UFO because it's really just science.

474
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:16.000
It's not necessarily related to UFOs,
although there's obviously a connection there because

475
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:20.719
from what people see it can describe
that as well. So you know,

476
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.000
that's why when we look at the
description of my discussion with you, doesn't

477
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.679
mention that at all. Because what
we're digging into here is the science,

478
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.599
right We're digging into quanta and macro
unification. We're going to dig into superconductivity

479
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.280
here in a minute as well,
and that's the stuff that I want to

480
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.199
learn about. The stuff. It's
not fiction, it's just science. So

481
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.679
one quick question second about and I
promise you not to interrupt again. Oh

482
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.679
you're fine your show here, sir. No, No, you're the start.

483
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.000
This is your first interview, so
I should be a little more polite.

484
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.679
But this is my chance to say
certain things and who knows, Maybe

485
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.239
I get a word from command shut
and I can and this may be my

486
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.519
last who knows, who knows?
Anything can happen the truth. But as

487
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:10.679
Angle take one said, I will
never suicide myself. Okay, Now,

488
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:17.519
now the the the idea being on
the second page of that paper, on

489
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:23.159
the second page of that paper,
or the super force paper. Take a

490
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:29.360
good look at the way that I
prove that this is the force of unification.

491
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:35.960
There's a remarkable formalism, very simple
that the strong nuclear force divided by

492
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:43.239
the electromagnetic force is one divided by
the define structure constant. It's usually I'm

493
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.320
your of one divided by one thirty
seven, it's like point zero seven.

494
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.679
But anyway, and it's very interesting
that when you actually take the decimal of

495
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.599
that one divided by one thirty seven
and and do it in a calculator,

496
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.679
and you see what I talk about. It's as if the numbers become a

497
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.320
wave. It's as if the numbers
it's it's a vibration of So it's it's

498
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.400
very strange. Just look at the
way the numbers change and how it's trust

499
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.039
one virus by one thirty seven,
and you'll see what I'm talking about,

500
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:17.559
now, what's what's truly okay?
What was? Yeah? So so,

501
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.519
using that idea, I was able
to show very simply that the strong nuclear

502
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:30.639
force equals the gravitational force at the
plank scale equals the superforce, so that

503
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:36.960
the strongest of the forces that went
off, the strong nuclear force when chapter

504
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.960
is in the order of ten to
the minus fifteen meters uh so one central

505
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.880
media, and the gravitational force,
which is the highest that we know off

506
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:52.880
hence the general relativity, the Einstein
field equations and so forth. So those

507
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:58.480
two scales are at the plank scale, those two forces are equal and equal

508
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:04.920
to the superforce. The super force
is a force of unification. And you

509
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.159
can actually find on that same page, very simple, with some rudimentary math,

510
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:15.559
something that I called in another paper
conditional replacement technique, and one can

511
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:20.079
google it and see what I'm talking
about. The CRT. Some people called

512
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:25.360
it at one point cathode ray tube. I just don't anyway, the conditional

513
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:31.800
replacement technique, if taken simple in
that leaning equation, you can actually show

514
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:38.800
that in both the rock and the
Shorten equations, the super force exists because

515
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:49.039
it's an energy gradient at the plant
scale. So it's so simple. This

516
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:55.280
is why I love it, because
I like simple mathematics that points to great

517
00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:02.679
physics. That idea of coupling the
two amazes. I understand that a lot

518
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:07.880
of people are fascinated by R equally
pr and ads equal CFT and so forth,

519
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:13.599
and we can discuss this at one
point in time. But I'm sorry

520
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.360
one mother Senna. We live in
a desiter vacuum. As Eric Blinda once

521
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.599
pointed out, I'm pretty sure Juan
will be very mad at me at this

522
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.920
point in time. But anyway,
Lenny Suskin too, But I have great

523
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:30.440
respect by the way Lenny Suskin started
out his staying as a plumber in Brooklyn.

524
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:37.840
Speaking of Joe the Plumber, Oh, I would love to have him

525
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:43.000
on the committee as well. He's
one of these visual mathematicians. He believes

526
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.360
in geometries. That's a very interesting
mind, the way his mind works,

527
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:52.400
Lenny's and he's like at a certain
age, and yet I couldn't tell.

528
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:58.239
I mean, the man is is
a giant. It's a cerebral giant,

529
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.559
you know. So a each advanceage
doesn't mean a thing, just like pedigree

530
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.519
doesn't mean a thing. Why shouldn't
the Joe the Plumber be able to even

531
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:12.119
publish in Archai, because most likely
if you can publish in Archai, maybe

532
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.320
your paper will be seen in Science, Nature, Physical Review. Letters would

533
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:21.679
be nice, But anyway, that's
a dream, all right. So I

534
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.039
just for the viewers, you know, when we talk about unifying quantum and

535
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:28.360
macro, I think I saw a
question that was kind of helps for them

536
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.800
to understand. Do you believe that
faster and light communication is possible based on

537
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:37.400
your equations that we talked about the
super force? We have to be careful

538
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:43.559
to understand the nature of the medium
within the same medium. So in other

539
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:50.679
words, I believe a medium speaks
to a given light speed, most likely

540
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:57.000
having to do the index of refraction
of that particular medium and also coupled with

541
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.320
the speed of light in free space. There's a very simple formula that you

542
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:05.400
can see that's a ratio. But
anyway, so in other words, if

543
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:10.760
we able to modify the medium,
it is quite possible that so cold faster

544
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:15.679
than the speed of life is peaceable, but within that given medium. No,

545
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:21.039
Einstein was correct. It is a
quote on quote physical area, but

546
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:27.159
only only presented by the nature of
the medium, that medium can be tenderized.

547
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.079
You can tenderize that to the point
a wholest form if you put enough

548
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:37.320
energy density at that particular point in
space and time. Huh. Cool,

549
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.400
So that I appreciate that answer.
I think that helps out with the viewers

550
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.960
quite a bit. And I think
the next thing we want to jump into

551
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:47.840
is superconductivity. So can you define
superconductivity for the audience. And then in

552
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:53.000
addition to that, you talk about
high energy densities, can room temperature superconductors

553
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:59.960
achieve those densities? And how so? Okay, that second one I would

554
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:05.039
rather than not discuss for reasons that
I've said before. It the first one.

555
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.639
It's in the theoretical realm. Oh, speaking of which I would love

556
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.679
I believe Leon Cooper is still alive, and Stephanie Alexander knows him. I

557
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:16.639
would love him on that committee too. And we're talking about the BCS theory

558
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:23.000
of super conductivity. We're talking about
one of the I should not use the

559
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:30.039
term gods to describe men, especially
since Hubris may be greatly involved. So,

560
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.719
but he is one of the giants
of super conductivity, and I believe

561
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:39.239
he's still alike. And also Brian
Josephson SQUI super conducting quantum interference devices.

562
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:43.400
Oh my goodness, the stuff that
we can do that. But anyway,

563
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:51.079
so that your name are really smart. So both Brian Joseph and Lean Cooper

564
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.840
are more than welcome on that committee. I would love to hear. Oh

565
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:58.719
my goodness, they're such giants.
But cover meat, cover meat has to

566
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.159
be there. I mean, this
is a man. This is the father

567
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:07.480
of true semi my opinion of semiconductor
technology. But not only that he has

568
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.280
such ideas, for example, even
in gravitation. But because yes, the

569
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:16.159
pedigree is an electrical engineer, even
as a professor at call Tech, that

570
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:22.800
man is not being heard properly by
the community that supposedly is not part of

571
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:28.920
science. Should not have limits,
creat sir, So what's your definition of

572
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:34.400
superconductivity for the audience? Superconductivity?
Well, I output an electrically charged super

573
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.840
fluid could be a superconductor. So
the idea being that it's possible that we

574
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:46.480
can actually slow photons in a superconductor. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah?

575
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.320
Very interesting. It talks to the
ability of medium. Now, a

576
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:59.519
superconduct itself is really basically zero resistance
as the electron flow goes through a certain

577
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:04.960
me say, a wire that's called
a wire for lack of a better term,

578
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:09.280
even though the way electricity actually moves
along the wire rather than through it

579
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:14.280
is very questionable. But anyway,
I should not go there because I'm already

580
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.519
called the crack. But I don't
need so. Even though there was a

581
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:23.920
very interesting podcast, and I'm very
fassium as to that illusion that. Okay,

582
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:29.880
I'm diverging, I'm taking so many
so the whole okay. And there's

583
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:34.519
one more thing that defines a superconductor. That's the miceners effect. That's the

584
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:40.800
ability of the of the superconductor to
actually, I believe it actually forms a

585
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.000
magnetic field of itself, of its
own, some sort of eddy currents that

586
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:52.079
actually form on the superconductor, and
something called the London penetration depth. See

587
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:59.159
a magnetic field will actually penetrate the
superconductor. Interesting it see that's the beauty

588
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.599
of it. It acts sally goes
to the London penetration that but what it

589
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:07.519
does it forms edit current which talked
to a magnetic field opposite that repels the

590
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:13.079
magnetic field that's put upon the superconductor. So yeah, but there's a London

591
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:19.920
penetration that and some and you can. I actually I remember that I wrote

592
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:27.400
a paper I think the room temperature
the the AI double A side tech speaks.

593
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.960
It was a presentation that was based
on a paper that I wrote that

594
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:36.000
I presented at a AI double A
side tech twenty nineteen. And please make

595
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:42.159
sure you post that because slides four
to slide nine is extremely important, I

596
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.800
even in one slide actually solve the
vacuum catastrophe. You know the whole idea.

597
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:52.079
You know that we get one hundred
and twenty orders of magnitude difference between

598
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:57.239
the quantum realm and how how is
that possible? Well, it speaks to

599
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.360
the idea that maybe we're not dealing
with playing lambs. He will do with

600
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:06.199
some space cells of a different dimension
and terror herts frequencies, saying that's some

601
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.079
but anyway, yeah, that's as
far as I go. I should not

602
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:15.599
gotta say more than that. So
well, I got more than that might

603
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:21.480
broach even further all of a sudden, I tell you call me so the

604
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:22.760
next one that was related. I
don't know if you can dig into this

605
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.480
because I heard on that of Everything
podcast too, you're mentioning that Bose Einstein

606
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.440
content stants can allow for room temperature
superconductive effects. Is that something you can

607
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:35.880
elaborate on or is that also kind
of pushing it too far? That's more,

608
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:42.480
that's more the the okay, uh, to understand how the room temperatures

609
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.440
for conductor that I'm talking about,
which is an active room. See,

610
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:53.519
I believe that maybe one way to
solve supercompuctivity at room temperature is not necessarily

611
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:59.280
by material properties to actually find for
example, LK ninety nine and so for

612
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:05.800
you know, the whole idea of
finding a specific material cop barium strengthium type.

613
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.480
Now, maybe it has to do
with a way that you can influence

614
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:15.320
something that is already a superconductor at
very low temperature, but make it a

615
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.840
super conductor at much higher temperature,
so raising the critical temperature. And actually,

616
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.239
uh, there's a great paper out
there still on archive, and one

617
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:28.679
can google it. Hopefully it's still
on Hopefully they haven't taken it down.

618
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:34.719
There's a lot of concerted effort to
make my work look like pseudoscience, so

619
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:39.239
so someone google it fast before it
goes. It's written by doctor Victor Lacno

620
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:45.039
u V I K T O R. Lacno or Victor with a C.

621
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:52.159
I'm not sure, but l A
K h n O lackno. And he's

622
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.360
from the Russian Academy form of the
Russian Academy of Sciences. He uh.

623
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:02.760
He wrote a paper called something the
Road or the Way too High and room

624
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.320
temperature super conductivity something of their nature
used to be on archive. But in

625
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:13.519
reference ten, he actually speaks to
the idea that the way that I do

626
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:19.400
it, the way he believes that
that my idea and the room temperature superconductor

627
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.719
is possible, is that what I'm
really doing is forming a Bose Einstein condensate

628
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:30.440
and then actually moving the condensate because
of a certain vibration within that feel Because

629
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:37.280
and you can actually read his paper
and see the last paragraph and he references

630
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:43.559
me. It's the only actually the
only, I believe, the only paper

631
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.639
out there, you know, in
the academics quote unquote academic community that actually

632
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:57.679
references that particular idea. And I
think he's got he's got quite an he's

633
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:01.920
got a point. Somebody read that
carefully. It's a last page and he

634
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.800
references my pattern in reference ten.
I believe still remember that. Yeah,

635
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.000
he actually wrote a book recently on
high temperatures for conductivity as well. But

636
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.440
anyway, I digress. Sorry,
so no, you're fine, because that's

637
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:16.480
actually I think you just said the
last thing. The next thing I was

638
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.320
going to say, which is I
heard you say that in a previous interview

639
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.760
that extremely low temperatures can create the
thosignes on contents, say, which can

640
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:28.599
allow things to move as one,
the electrons potentially if I'm saying that correctly,

641
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:35.400
and that they might even a microscopic
quantum coherence, the idea that it's

642
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.960
possible under certain conditions. For example, what's a superconductor. Superconductor is really,

643
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:44.440
in the words of Phil Anderson,
the idea of emergence. Now,

644
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:50.639
phil Anderson Nobel Prize, was a
great mind. He god, I believe

645
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:58.079
he is. He's deceased, but
he at one point he was talking.

646
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:06.199
I forget exactly how he tackled that
problem. Anyway, I digress. Look

647
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:09.519
into the work of phil Anderson and
his idea of emergence and how he links

648
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:17.079
it to something called macroscopic quantum coherence. How how how a physical object of

649
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:28.159
classical size can behave as a quantum
entity under certain conditions In macroscopic quantum decoherence,

650
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:34.039
as opposed to decoherence. Exactly decoherent. That that is the some people

651
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.039
think, for example, the gravitational
field could be a decoherence method by which

652
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:44.320
something that should reset or should have
a quantum mechanical Actually it was Roger Penrose

653
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:52.480
to mention that. But anyway,
the whole idea is decoherence. Uh it

654
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.880
it's it's one. As a matter
of fact, look into slides four to

655
00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:00.679
nine. It's in there. Look
into slides for four to nine in in

656
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:07.199
my AI double A Side Tech twenty
nineteen presentation. It's in there described quantum

657
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.079
coherence to a t. And as
a matter of fact, if you have

658
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:15.800
it up, read what I what
I write in that particular slide, like,

659
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:22.000
read the whole thing. It's it's
uh. I still remember being in

660
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:27.679
that room. I actually got a
standing ovation for that slide. There were

661
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:34.760
absolutely I mean people, was I
felt so good being able to to to

662
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:40.119
talk to my peers and getting some
feedback there was not so negative a nature

663
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.719
reading. And actually, do you
know who presented before me in that same

664
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:52.800
room, Robert Zubrin. We actually
met with the great guy too. But

665
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:57.400
okay, you go ahead and read
that please, Yeah, because I actually

666
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.559
I think I quoted this when I
was posting these slides on Twitter. Because

667
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:01.760
there were so many slides, I
had to break them up into fours.

668
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:06.760
And part of it was saying that
this is a vacuum that has undergone macroscopic

669
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.719
quantum coherence locally around the craft.
As a result, the craft experiences suction

670
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.559
into the conditioned vacuum. Another part
of it says that this may be the

671
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:20.719
very condition to achieve a state of
macroscopic quantum coherence the idea. Idea being

672
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:25.639
that we never leave the system.
Let the system achieve thermodynamic equilibrium by constantly

673
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:30.199
delaying the onset of relaxation to the
equilibrium. Hence, the production of maximum

674
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:37.239
entropy is delayed. The system may
violently react by generating anomalist emergent phenomena such

675
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.039
as, but not limited to,
inertial mass reduction, which we're going to

676
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:44.079
talk about here in a minute.
I think, and this speaks to what

677
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.320
I call the preg Gene effect.
This is the work of Ilia Pregogene.

678
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:52.039
You can say in a way that
the Vice effect is the engineering of the

679
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:57.199
Pregogene effect, what I call the
Preggiene effect. His a Nobel Prize.

680
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:02.679
I believe in nineteen seventy three.
Wrong. I remember that his Nobel Prize

681
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:08.000
lecture paper being written. I think
December seventy three. But anyway, he

682
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:14.559
also wrote a book called Order from
Chaos very or Out of Chaos very interesting.

683
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:22.159
He was, I believe, chemistry, but Iliya Prigojin was an incredible

684
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:30.480
mind, and he basically his idea
was the ordering of what he called dissipated

685
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:36.920
structures, that order that chaos can
be ordered under certain conditions. The idea

686
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.360
being you're dealing with a non linear
medium, for example of plasma, you

687
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:47.320
drive it far from equilibrium, hence
acceleraery vibration or an accelerated spin, and

688
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:52.880
then you have a constant electromagnetic energy
going through it, like a flax of

689
00:58:52.960 --> 00:59:00.239
some kind, and you're able to
get these dissipated structures. I think he's

690
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:06.559
the example or Bernard's something called Bernard
cells. Bernard, I'm not it's French.

691
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:09.880
I should know better since I took
so many of them. I believe

692
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:15.559
it's Bernard. The whole idea is, for example, on a thin plate,

693
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:22.960
if you have a layer of oil
very thin, and you hit the

694
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:27.440
plate from underneath the metal plate,
so you need conductivity there to make sure

695
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.440
you know, if it's a dialector
of this thing will never get hit.

696
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:37.920
So the whole idea is they form
these in time, they form hexagonal cells

697
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:44.760
and something that event that begins chaotic, the movement becomes orders. And he

698
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:51.440
used that in his December ninety an
incredible. I suggest everybody go and try

699
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:57.079
to find the Nobel Prize lecture by
Ilia Prigosin. I believe it was nineteen

700
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:06.000
seventy three, something about time fluctuations
structure. Anyway, very interesting paper.

701
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:09.440
I think this may be similar,
and let me know if it is or

702
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:14.440
not. But you mentioned driving the
plasma from equilibrium that will be in the

703
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.159
self organized and that the electrons will
be going to move and lockstep in one

704
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.440
giant matter wave as well. Yes, I actually use the phrase that another

705
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:30.079
great used, volfkan Italy. I
absolutely like love Profs the only one to

706
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:37.599
reply kindly to my emails like he. You know, even though he would

707
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.679
not support my paper and archives,
he gave some very good reasons for it.

708
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:45.719
And I mean, I'm one hundred
percent sure that if I would have

709
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.800
kept nudging him and stuff, eventually
he's that kind of person. I truly

710
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.480
see people like that. People like
that should get Nobel prizes, not people

711
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:59.679
that ride others and make fun of
them. Call them pranks and track pots.

712
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:02.039
Please come on. I've had similar
experiences with academia, and the ones

713
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:06.400
I respect. I'm with you are
the ones that people that are willing to

714
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:12.039
talk to anyone right not regardless of
their pedigree. Is profess people that humble

715
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:16.400
themselves, people that don't consider themselves
to be soothsayers. So those are types

716
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.360
of people the price for BC by
the way, yes he showed it.

717
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:25.159
I think by combination of something welled
evaporated cooling and laser cooling, you can

718
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:30.719
actually oo adams and lasers. Isn't
that cool? That's really actually a lot

719
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:35.360
of stuff you can do with lasers, especially with plasmas. But anyway,

720
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.119
I'm gonna I'm gonna press you on
this next one. Then, So is

721
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:42.840
it feasible to work with electrically charged
solids? Then? I know we've talked

722
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.599
all about a lot about plasmas,
but what about solids in general? Any

723
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:51.920
theories they're hypothetically speaking, it's possible
on theer certain conditions, but you need

724
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:57.639
electric charges on your of cool ambs, and it's not easy. You can

725
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:04.400
use pelatrons and something. All teletrons
are a modern version of something called bandergraph

726
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:12.000
generators, So you can actually get
high charges on a particular metallic substrate.

727
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:15.639
But it's it's it's not simple,
and it's not easy to keep that charge

728
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:22.039
from discharging to the medium. Sometimes
you need high preciures as it's how should

729
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:28.960
I say? It's complicated. So
I prefer simple things, and I think

730
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:31.679
the best way to do this is
with plasmas. Now, now, I'm

731
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:35.960
not saying that plasmas are easy to
subdue. As a matter of fact,

732
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:40.039
they're a very interesting animals. I
sometimes think plasmas have consciousness of their own,

733
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:46.239
but I digress. Yeah, they
have like almost like a double layer.

734
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.960
You have to study what the hunts
out Phane thought of plasma. It's

735
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:57.239
very interesting. There's another great anthony
perat. The whole idea is that our

736
01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:01.239
universe is more than nineteen nine point
nine nine percent plasma. Yeah, so

737
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:06.880
okay, and hence the boussard ram
jet the Holy But then, anyway,

738
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:12.039
I'm digressing on so many levers.
I'm sure that the people who are being

739
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:15.559
quoted in reference will appreciate all of
the shout outs that you've given them.

740
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:17.239
So that's why I don't want to
slow you down at all. So I

741
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.239
mean, and next the next thing. It kind of feeds into what we

742
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.519
were talking about your slides, which
is and as much as you can speak

743
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.079
to it, how does inertial mass
reduction work? And what does it mean

744
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:35.400
for the capabilities of both technology and
propulsion in general? Uh, it works

745
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:43.639
the way that I expressed it in
my public domain. What I can speak

746
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:49.280
to even on an experimental level is, for example, the one thing,

747
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:53.360
in my opinion, is most important, most important, is to create these

748
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:59.960
holes in space. That's why when
you when you show I you know,

749
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:02.559
I wanted to make sure that the
person that I had the interview with was

750
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:06.800
actually you look, this is my
confessional. So I actually went to a

751
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:13.519
podcast called The Confessionals, I think
Merco Media or something really good, tremendous,

752
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.400
really good dude too, that dude, but anyway, very very nice

753
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:23.199
guy. Uh. And and by
the way, you you come across a

754
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:28.599
man, you come across really good
in that podcast problem check it out.

755
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:34.480
When I saw when I saw what
those lobs did, the local points,

756
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:40.039
the locus of points that they formed, and the moment I actually actually slowed

757
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:44.199
down and started because I actually saw
one of them, actually a couple of

758
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:49.960
went in front of the nose of
the aircraft, and this thing was almost

759
01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:54.760
free four. So we're talked about
very high speed. And I kept on

760
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:59.679
thinking they're trying to form of locus, like almost like a spherical bubble around

761
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:01.159
the air craft. And then I
thought more and more. I said,

762
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:06.719
Oh my god, they're actually what
these three orbs are doing, the depositing

763
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:13.679
energy at a particular even though it
goes with the spacecraft. Still, I

764
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:18.360
think they're moving fast enough to have
a locus locus of points that you can

765
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:25.000
say it's like a spherical bubble that
deposits more and more energy within that particular

766
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:31.599
section of space time to create this
breaking of the shwingle. And if you

767
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.519
do that, you create a hole
in space time. And when I saw

768
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:41.920
what I saw, I didn't anticipate. When I saw that thing, the

769
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:46.920
hole it formed, and then I
almost saw like a ring that formed around

770
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:53.519
the hole. It was like a
refraction of the of the superfluor of nature

771
01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:59.440
of I said, oh my god, this is the perciffect. Yeah,

772
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.000
And then I had to prove myself
down, They would definite believe that most

773
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:08.320
likely, you know, Ashton will
have to go for absolute health to prove

774
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.960
that this is not you know,
Oh my goodness, Well we're going through

775
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.760
it, sir, We're going slowing
down. I wish you'd be absolute best

776
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:21.519
luck in this because this is the
best, the best experimental proof that the

777
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:26.280
quote unquote police effect is real.
So we have to have a follow up

778
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:28.920
then, for sure, where we
take a look at the videos together and

779
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:31.320
go through I think the audience would
absolutely love that. For today though,

780
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.360
I just want to stay focused on
the science, just because you know,

781
01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.800
I think we want to indicate you
and your science here and I think we've

782
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:41.239
done a great job so far of
explaining how it can be practical and real,

783
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:45.400
right as opposed to the detractors who
want to dismiss it. Now,

784
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:47.880
if you have this inertial mass reduction
craft, uh, do you know what

785
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:53.400
would that look like to the observer
as they're watching that move and they produce

786
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:55.719
a field or how does that work? There? Have you ever seen Star

787
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.440
Wars? Oh yeah, I could
see your shirt by the way, but

788
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:05.039
yeah, the eggs wing. I
pride myself all the way part of the

789
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:12.079
resistance baby, you know, anyway, the rebel alliance. But I've always

790
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.840
been truly a rebel at heart.
But is it gonna look like the hyperspace

791
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.880
joke? Say that? Sorry anyway? No, no, no, I

792
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:26.119
meant anyway, there's nothing wrong with
being a slave. No, I'm kidding.

793
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.119
But anyway, well, as long
as our existence depends on others,

794
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.360
we are all slaves. Whether we
say so or not, it's a whole

795
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:41.320
different thing. But anyway, let's
call ourselves rebels while we're still yes,

796
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:45.360
sir, absolutely, Okay. Now
do you remember how the I think they

797
01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:51.360
were called what were they called the
the the imperial cruisers? Yeah? Do

798
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:57.599
you remember how all of a sudden
they would just vanish as if a whole

799
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:02.960
was formed into That's a exactly what
happens with that trianglear structure that I represent

800
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.760
in the past. That's that's how
I envisioned it, and that's why when

801
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:12.519
I saw what I saw in that
video, I said, oh my god,

802
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:17.199
but it's very interesting. Uh.
And You're one hundred percent right there

803
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:24.760
have to be a ton of and
I'm one hundred percent sure these were some

804
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:30.760
sort of collision avoiding software there.
All I remember is that like inside the

805
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:35.840
orb because you also showed the thermographs
there was some sort of a propulsion plan,

806
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.560
some sort of a power plan because
it was a different there was something

807
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:45.359
going on in the middle of that
or but anyway, yeah, I digress,

808
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:51.920
sorry about that would happened. Yeah, so okay, so it would

809
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:56.079
look potentially like the hyperspace jump.
I think that's really cool. Yes,

810
01:08:56.399 --> 01:08:59.039
you actually just answer one of my
other questions was coming up, which was,

811
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:02.600
you know, do you think that
these crafts could be there would have

812
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:05.159
to be somebody inside them or could
they be remote controlled? You know,

813
01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:13.640
I think that's an interesting question,
right. You know my opinion, both

814
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:19.520
can make this. I think you
can make it into an interstellar travel.

815
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:24.880
I think I think you can do
both. But I think it's far easier

816
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:31.199
to do the first of all the
laws of human life. Nobody wants to

817
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:35.560
deal with it. Goodness gracious,
so so much sometimes, so much better

818
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:45.439
to have these autonomous artificial intelligent agents. Again, this means if if it's

819
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:48.800
true what we saw, that means
that AI is not a new thing at

820
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:54.000
all. But anyway, ten years
ago, I aggress, I digress way

821
01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:59.000
too much. Oh, I have
another theory on something the triarchy of sentience.

822
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:02.960
Eventually with talk about it. It's
very interesting. Artificial intelligence, for

823
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:09.800
example, in my opinion, you
can test whether something has become an artificial

824
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:16.239
general intelligence by basically seeing if it
can generate given say, textbook data.

825
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:19.880
So we're not talking about stuff that
just pulled from the Internet, but the

826
01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:26.239
stuff that's pull from physics manuals,
something that's been experimentally proven, So using

827
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:30.720
textbook data. Given a certain computational
power level, I believe as long as

828
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:35.319
the AI, the AI agent can
generate an original concept, it becomes HI

829
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:45.000
super intelligence is not very far off. So I anyway, I'm not I'm

830
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:49.840
digressing on so many levels. But
another thing, for example, the super

831
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:56.279
force speaks to super density, and
eventually our talk on that too, something

832
01:10:56.359 --> 01:11:02.560
called so super force super bang because
of the super density and super intelligence.

833
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.000
Again, I call it the triarchy
of creation. Ah. You know,

834
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:11.680
after all, I'm a crack bat, right, So since my Hubres level

835
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.880
has been you know, inflated to
the max, well why not break the

836
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.399
shoeing a little bit? Why not
just change the whole world? Because that's

837
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:23.079
what I do here, That's what
I think we're looking at. If you

838
01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:29.640
can prove if you can prove that
that video is for Ashton, that is

839
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.760
a Nobel Prize. Brother. If
I, if I was the Stop Home

840
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:39.000
community, I freaking immediately give you
a Nobel Price in imagery or something or

841
01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:42.479
I don't know, like creative thinking, or I'll just take a Pultzer.

842
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.760
You know, I don't need a
Nobel Prize. But yeah, that's only

843
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.479
you know, like you, I
also have to say at this point that

844
01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:55.119
I would never hurt myself and yeah
to do anything like that either. Just

845
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:59.560
want to make sure that that's not
on the record here just case. Yes,

846
01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:02.560
neither Ashton or I would ever suicide
ourselves, thank you, never,

847
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:08.119
never any circumstances. So also I
just want to dig into a little bit

848
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.159
kind of what you just mentioned,
which kind of takes into the stuff we

849
01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:15.520
were talking about. Is in your
patents you talk about non linear medium using

850
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:19.439
a plasma resonating inside a cavity related
to microwaves, and then you also say

851
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:26.720
that you can convert high frequency UH
electromagnetic waves into gravitational waves. Can you

852
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:30.039
speak to that at all? That
has to do with another paper I put

853
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:34.439
out, and I think the Society
of Automotive engineers, remind me to send

854
01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:40.119
you that paper. I also have
I think the it's like starts to zero

855
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:45.399
four zero that. But anyway,
it was published in the It's It's It's

856
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:51.800
a paper that was needed to to
get the patent. That was incredible though

857
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:58.760
that that office action was a first. I mean they actually approved it as

858
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:04.640
a first high high frequency gravitation wight
generator. It could be because prior to

859
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:09.600
this there were shown to be I
mean, we'll talk about the genius of

860
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:14.560
Kip Torn here, you know,
and and very bearish and ligo for goodness

861
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.800
sake, I mean, you know, the great experimental and theoretical Kip Torn

862
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.760
of course, just like Penrose got
it for black holes. But anyway,

863
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:27.199
and and and by the way,
Sir Roger Penrose or you should be called

864
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.960
Lord in my opinion, so Lord
Penrose, if you're ever watching this,

865
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:34.239
there are no such thing as spacetime
singularities. I'm sorry, I disagree with

866
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:40.119
you. We can have an argument
on it. I think uh Abby Ashtrakar

867
01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:44.319
is correct, as in, there's
a quantum bounce, so in other words,

868
01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:46.920
it never goes to zero. It
goes to something on your of the

869
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:51.319
plant density, which talks to the
super density. But anyway, that's a

870
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:56.119
whole different ball game. We'll talk
about the super density one day because it

871
01:13:56.199 --> 01:14:00.239
talks to the super bang, not
the Big bang, the super all right,

872
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.079
all right, Yeah, So I've
got a few more questions that are

873
01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:05.239
kind of similar to stuff we talked
about. I don't know if some of

874
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:10.439
it's going back, you know,
And I think I've heard something on your

875
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:14.920
Theory of Everything podcast where you talked
about there being a thin insulator regarding your

876
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:18.159
inertial mass reduction craft. Does this
actually have to be a physical element or

877
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:21.199
can this be something that can be
produced by a field of some sort as

878
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:25.159
well? What are your thoughts on
that. It's a very good question,

879
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:29.479
sir. I'll leave it. I
love it. That's why I love when

880
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:31.239
I get that answer, honestly,
because the same reason why I send in

881
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:34.199
freedom of information requests, like I
don't care what the answer is, because

882
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:38.600
no matter what the answer is,
I glean information off of it as an

883
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:42.439
investigator. Now, I guess the
next part too, is kind of related

884
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.760
to what we're just talking about with
uh, you know, not to go

885
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.319
into the videos that we were talking
about, but the effect that what we

886
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:53.239
see there in the videos is you
mentioned. I think with the pairing up

887
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:58.079
of electrons causing potentially a suction effect
or potentially creating a void, that me

888
01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:01.760
create the suction effect in the vacuum. So it's exactly what you see.

889
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:05.840
It's almost like a black hole.
Yeah, I guess that's my question.

890
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:12.720
See, oh my goodness, does
it matter like how you define it.

891
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:15.079
I have a feeling between you and
I, I have a feeling that every

892
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:19.760
black hole, for every black hole, there's a white hole, so it's

893
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:23.439
kind of like a warm hole kind
of. So you have the ability to

894
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:29.079
actually transport from one point to another, so for example, from going from

895
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.920
point A to point C without actually
going for point B. Yeah, I

896
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:41.479
think I don't really understand what the
quantum vacuum is all about. And I

897
01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:45.439
have a feeling there there's so much
more to physics that I think we're still

898
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:50.479
in our infancy. We think we
almost know it all. I think physics

899
01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:58.920
it's almost I would say, three
maybe four months old. It's a long

900
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:02.479
time till this it becomes an adult. Basically. I think JFK mentions that

901
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:06.680
too, is that the greater our
knowledge increases, the greater our ignorance unfolds,

902
01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:10.920
and I look back at that and
I think that we think we're so

903
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:15.520
advanced, but we are still potentially
cavemen compared to where we could possibly be,

904
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:16.960
is my view. And it's funny
you bring up the black hole white

905
01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:19.800
hole situation. That's always something I've
wondered about too, because what we see

906
01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:26.840
in physics is symmetry a lot,
right, the must have an entrance,

907
01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:31.479
why not an exit? Interesting?
Yeah? And so when you're generating this

908
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:35.000
void in the space of time continuum, which I believe you argue with these

909
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:42.600
certain energy densities getting to that,
would this potentially energize particles outside of the

910
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.720
void? Do you think or any
thoughts of theories on what might happen there?

911
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:49.319
And do you think it would at
least look like a black hole?

912
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:56.000
I mean, I could speculate.
I can give you my speculation. Yeah,

913
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:59.720
please, I think it would be
a whole local phenomena. I have

914
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:10.439
a fling almost nothing maybe something that
uh, I'm not sure whether for example,

915
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:14.960
the clouds, because you mentioned their
clouds, like where those clouds in

916
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:23.399
any way? Could you see the
move in any way? And I'm I

917
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:30.079
have a feeling that the effect would
be highly local and it's as if a

918
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:35.800
portal is open within a fabric of
some sorts, but somehow this fabric has

919
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:44.039
the ability to recongeal almost spontaneously.
Weird again. The whole idea is that

920
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:47.640
once you remove this energy density,
this thing just comes back. And that's

921
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:54.880
why super intelligence. I truly believe
what we're dealing with the energy the universe

922
01:17:55.000 --> 01:18:00.560
is a sentience. It's a sentient
being. And and I told you we

923
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:05.000
better be careful what we do with
our planet because you know what antibodies are.

924
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:10.720
Yeah, they fight back right against
anything that it doesn't unwanted things,

925
01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:15.000
right. Yeah, Well that that
makes me think about some other theories that

926
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:18.079
I wouldn't mind talking with you on
another podcast as well, which is into

927
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.520
more of the you know, what
are the implications of you know, this

928
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:26.680
advanced technology, where it came from, and what it would mean for you

929
01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:30.720
know, lots of other philosophical approaches, but we can save that for another

930
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:35.319
time. That's another thing. Physics
and philosophy must be britt again. We

931
01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:42.319
must marry these two. The divorce
that when between physics and philosophy should have

932
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:49.520
never been allowed. I believe physics
has so much to gain from remarrying philosophy,

933
01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:58.399
and I think Colo Rebelli others like
him, Lee Smolen, oh man,

934
01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.640
that's a physics. I would love
him in the committee, both of

935
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:06.319
them. But I think Lie Smolan
is taking a Canadian citizenship, and you

936
01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:10.600
know, there's this so in other
words, the people that would be in

937
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:15.720
this committee would have to be United
States citizens due to certain things I would

938
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.359
say, you know, and I'm
pretty sure the committee would be Unfortunately,

939
01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:21.960
I would love to have a televised
but I have a feeling, you know,

940
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.920
my better is my superiors. When
you know, I would agree maybe

941
01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:30.159
to a skiff conference rather than anyway. Yeah, I'm not gonna go there.

942
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:32.520
Yeah, I'm glad I don't have
any NDAs not to worry about those

943
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:36.399
types of things. But I understand
the quickly situation that you might be inserts.

944
01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:40.359
So again, I just appreciate that
you're you able to talk freely about

945
01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:45.279
this type of stuff. And yeah, you know, it's just that I

946
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:50.479
was super furious when I saw the
changes they did to the Wikipedia page.

947
01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:55.640
I mean, for goodness, a
pseudo science that's like, you know,

948
01:19:56.680 --> 01:20:00.319
vomiting in my face and then spitting
on it too, you know, I

949
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:06.000
mean what else. Excuse my language, you know I grew up. This

950
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:13.880
is not for children at a tapestry
of obscenity second to none. Yeah,

951
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:15.199
So I have only a couple of
questions. I was thinking maybe we would

952
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:18.840
open it up to some live chat
questions if I see them out there.

953
01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:24.960
So one last thing that I've been
curious about, which is uh and it

954
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:28.079
kind of goes into the U A
P phenomenon, but it's definitely related to

955
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:32.560
your scientific approach is do you think
this craft or your craft that you have

956
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:38.319
kind of patented, can go through
solid matter or are there limitations to it?

957
01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:42.239
What are your thoughts on that?
Because I know that they talk about

958
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.319
multi trand like different being able to
go through different mediums, right, water,

959
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:56.479
air space, what about solid mass? Right? Let me just say

960
01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:06.920
there are no impossible, just conditional
possibilities. Under certain conditions, everything and

961
01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:15.880
anything is possible a trick and this
is where it all comes is how to

962
01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:23.039
engineer those conditions. So in a
way I've answered your question. In a

963
01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:29.560
way I haven't, But that's I
think that you know, one of my

964
01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:34.840
favorite characters and and and and and
shows, it wasn't It wasn't the American

965
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:39.560
version of House of Cards. It
was a British version. Uh, his

966
01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:44.680
name was Francis Urkert. If you
it's pretty interesting how the initials goes,

967
01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:48.399
and just to say you may possibly
say so, I could not possibly come

968
01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:55.079
and I don't know, but the
thing stuck in my mind. I watched

969
01:21:55.079 --> 01:22:00.800
the American version until the last.
Unfortunately I don't mention the name or you'll

970
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:06.399
get Yeah, I don't want to
get us removed here. It's a total

971
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:11.079
loss though, because oh my god, it was great until then, remember

972
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:16.239
the usual suspects. What I mean, who anyway, great movie. So

973
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:19.880
one thing I want to ask or
to say as well, is just kind

974
01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:23.920
of a general statement I had before
we june into questions, is that you

975
01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:26.399
know, if your daughter's watching,
I want her to know that you are

976
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:29.720
a great man. And all the
anyone who says negative stuff about you,

977
01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:33.159
they can come talk to me,
because that's nonsense. You know, just

978
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:35.960
for you. Your dad is an
amazing person. He's going to be a

979
01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:42.000
historic figure potentially, potentially even in
the history books. So ignore all the

980
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:45.119
nonsense that the haters would say.
They don't mean anything, they don't even

981
01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:46.920
matter, honestly, And that's the
way you deal with them is you don't

982
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:49.600
let it get to you. So
that's what I wanted to say to her.

983
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:53.600
If she's watching. God bless you, sir, God bless you for

984
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:57.199
that. Thank you very much for
saying this. Yeah, she she she

985
01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:00.000
tries. She she tried so hard. One time I found a crying and

986
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:03.119
she was reading and I said,
please, oh my God, read it

987
01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:08.359
of all things. I mean,
you don't read that stuff, you know.

988
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:12.760
But anyway, yeah, she is. She's gonna be twelve soon,

989
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.840
enow. But still, you know, she she's a sensitive kid. I

990
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:18.760
wish she took it more from her
mother, but yeah, you know,

991
01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:24.359
she she took it from me unfortunately. So yeah, she's a great kid.

992
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:27.359
Thank you for that. God bless
you. If you have any children,

993
01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:31.079
same goes, do you appreciate it? Appreciate it? I don't appreciate

994
01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:38.359
that. Anyway, you were able
to prove this, you will definitely get

995
01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:45.760
a prize. And again, let
us let us reiterate neither Ashton, Forbes

996
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:50.319
nor Sell but would ever suicide ourselves. Thank you and yeah for me.

997
01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:54.680
It's about the same name as my
podcast Hard Truths, right, These are

998
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:58.760
hard truths that are hard for people
to accept, but they are true,

999
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:00.560
and we still have to look,
even though we don't want to accept it,

1000
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:03.520
we have to look. I've got
a couple of questions from the audience

1001
01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:08.079
here, if you're ready to go, I don't. One of the first

1002
01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:11.479
ones here is they want to ask
you about the relationship between pious effect and

1003
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:15.680
exotic vacuum objects. Apparently they go
by a number of different variety of names.

1004
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:19.560
Are you familiar with those? And
yes, yes, that's a very

1005
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:26.560
interesting Uh, the whole idea of
super capitation, the whole idea of sono

1006
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:30.560
luminescence, and what was the name
of that gentleman, I remember reading some

1007
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:36.680
papers on him. He was he
was quite a quite an engineer. Shame

1008
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:42.960
on me for for now remembering the
the ideos. If they can put that

1009
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.319
in the in the in the live
stream, that'd be great, you know,

1010
01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:50.640
so you can. But anyway,
I'm not quite sure there's similarities.

1011
01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:55.039
I think mine is a more general
form of it. Mine is really the

1012
01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:59.840
engineering of the prevosion effect. That's
what it is. I think that's a

1013
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:05.319
best way to say it. It
really deals with taking things far from equilibrium.

1014
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:10.399
And and again, the whole idea
of rapid acceleration transient. The whole

1015
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:16.680
idea that you don't that you don't
have the time differential of your acceleration is

1016
01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:23.720
non zero. That's very important.
And don't forget equation seven. Please do

1017
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:29.000
not forget equation seven in the I
Triple E TPS paper that the plasma compression

1018
01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:34.560
fusion device. It speaks to something
very interesting, an energy runway. That

1019
01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:45.600
that uh an exponential increase with time
and accelerating vibrational frequency. Read, be

1020
01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:49.039
very careful when you look at that
equation that that that says a lot of

1021
01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:56.439
things. So I hope I answered
some of that. Yeah, I hope

1022
01:25:56.479 --> 01:26:00.560
I. But definitely God what was
his name now? Really drives me crazy.

1023
01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:06.760
He quite a character, an incredible, incredible mind. He also went

1024
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:14.479
for help, uh hm for people
to see. Shame on me for for

1025
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:20.239
forgetting that man's name. Really God, So there's the answer for that,

1026
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:25.720
no problem. So somebody else another
question which they wanted to ask about your

1027
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:30.079
thoughts on Er equals e p r
uh what are your thoughts? Eteinrosen The

1028
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:36.359
Einstein Rosen bridge equals Einstein Podowski Rosen. The whole idea the quantumental and dangleman

1029
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:43.119
really speaks to this bridge between these
two particles. But think what particles are

1030
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:46.399
the super FORWL says that the proton
can act as a black hole. So

1031
01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:49.880
if so, why not the electron. Maybe the electron is also a black

1032
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:54.600
hole. Maybe the old particles act
as black holes and as a as a

1033
01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:59.840
matter of fact, maybe that's why
we see these quote unquote particles not this

1034
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.720
integrating. For example, the proton, the decay time is on the order

1035
01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:09.239
of ten to the thirty forces.
I don't know exactly the unit of measure,

1036
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:15.880
but even seconds, it would be
horrendously large. So but most likely

1037
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:20.600
the proton will not decay unless you
do something. Again, I am not

1038
01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:25.279
sure exactly how the super force speaks
speaks to, for example, the Higgs

1039
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:28.600
field. I think, for example, the Higgs field speaks of a different

1040
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:32.560
scale. I think the super force
is so fundamental it exists at the plank

1041
01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:39.079
scale. It actually derives everything.
Put it this way, it is the

1042
01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:43.960
force to rule them all, one
force to rule them all, one force

1043
01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:47.119
to find them, one force to
bring them all. And in the darkness

1044
01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:51.920
behind them. And it's interesting they're
talk about dark energy. Maybe that's what

1045
01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:57.000
the darkness reports to. But anyway, okay, that's interesting. Yeah,

1046
01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:59.479
some other stuff. Let's see what
people have. Well, people want to

1047
01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:02.039
first say that love you back.
You know, so everybody's a big fan

1048
01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:05.520
of you in the chat right now. They're great people. Thank you.

1049
01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:09.279
Want to know what gives you hope
for a better world. I think that's

1050
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:14.159
an interesting philosophical question. What gives
you hope for better world? I I

1051
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:19.039
you know, I was I.
I had to turn the TV off in

1052
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:24.199
the morning. I was, I
was hoping for some better news. And

1053
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:30.560
again, physics and politics should not
make so I am totally apolitical. Consider

1054
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:35.159
me to I'm okay. But I
will say this and listen carefully, and

1055
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:46.079
I will say this in both Romanian
and Russian ascultabin and now I will say

1056
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:54.239
what I have to say. Credo
in batrem omnipotent me. He'll see it.

1057
01:28:54.399 --> 01:29:11.560
Dale eloho mele how long bismillah irahman
Rahim Inshallah Mohammad Aizuli, different languages,

1058
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:17.159
different religions, yet signifying all is
one, one is all. Unless

1059
01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:27.199
we come together, we shall fall
apart. Unification. That's what all these

1060
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.760
languages speak to, the one truth. And you know what that truth is?

1061
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:39.840
Why can't we just come together?
This is the only way we have

1062
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:45.600
a chance. A unification of civilization
will give us the ability to go to

1063
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:51.399
the stars. Otherwise that chance will
never come. Not the way, not

1064
01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:58.159
the patron. Where are That's all
I have to say. Awesome. I

1065
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:00.800
think they also figured out who the
doctor was, doctor Ken Shoulders. I

1066
01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:06.760
think is it was on top of
it for you? What a great Oh

1067
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:12.079
my god, remarkable, yes,
remarkable mind. As a matter of fact,

1068
01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:15.800
you know this whole idea of the
negative energy that you know, the

1069
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:17.920
whole idea of the formation of the
whole for which this thing is sucked.

1070
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:24.079
Yeah, that's that's the science of
someone called I God. I forget he

1071
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:27.479
used to go by the name David
Frowning, but I believe his name was

1072
01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:31.199
Herman Herman David Frowning. I think
David was his middle name. But David

1073
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:38.840
Frowning, doctor Frowning, University of
Adelaide, I believe Australia. Very interesting

1074
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:42.359
man. You have to look.
I think in one of my papers I

1075
01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:48.359
actually cite him and I I regarded
him along with people like John Brandenburg,

1076
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:56.239
Uh, Paul Murad he he he
recently passed from cancer. These were great,

1077
01:30:56.680 --> 01:30:59.520
great people. These are great people. Some of them are still alive.

1078
01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:05.600
But I doctor Throning, and and
and mister Murad are not. Mister

1079
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:10.159
Brandenburg, thank goodness, still with
us. He is a good man.

1080
01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:15.720
He should be listened to tremendously.
Is GEM theory G E M. Gravito

1081
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:25.439
electro gravitic electromagnetic theory GEM G E
M should be looked into. Absolutely fascinating.

1082
01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:29.159
And he also talks to the pointing
back that I mean he was able

1083
01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:38.439
to actually show the the the mass
of the Higgs particle because we're really talking

1084
01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:42.279
to the Higgs field. There's not
that while the whole idea of the God

1085
01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:45.720
particle, please, they're not such
his particles, the fluctuations in fields.

1086
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:50.520
What exists is the But anyway,
again digressing, Sorry, next question,

1087
01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:54.840
No, I think we're drying up. But I have a question for you

1088
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:58.720
as well, which is another physicist
I've been talking to has a theory called

1089
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:02.319
dilation theory, and I think that
the way he would describe is the time

1090
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:05.880
as a fluid symmetry, and that
you can essentially take gravity out of the

1091
01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:11.560
equation and there's another way to simplify
the mathematics. I think similar to what

1092
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:16.119
you do achieves the same perhaps conclusion
be those are out doing it a slightly

1093
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:20.119
different way, and the reason why
I liked his theories in general. I'm

1094
01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:24.720
just curiously your thoughts on them is
that the idea is the less mass,

1095
01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:29.399
the faster things, the faster time
flows. The more mass, the slower

1096
01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:34.439
time flows. It's pretty cool,
right, time dilation time I wish I

1097
01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:39.600
understand. I think of time as
some sort of energy. Feel I wish

1098
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:45.880
I understood more. For example,
gravity responds to time. Why and again

1099
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:48.800
we'll talk about physical time here.
We're not talking about the time as we

1100
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:54.600
understand measured by clocks, because remember, clocks themselves are made out of what

1101
01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:59.119
atoms, and atoms respond to the
quantum, vacuum and the manipulation they're off.

1102
01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:01.199
So you have to be very careful
by saying, oh, there's no

1103
01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:05.880
such thing as physical time. You
know today is equal to more? Please,

1104
01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:12.560
I don't think we really understand time
what it really means. And since

1105
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:16.079
we don't understand time, how can
you say you understand space time the unification

1106
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:21.399
of the same, right. Yeah, so we have to be careful to

1107
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:27.760
to That's why I'm saying we are
only in the infancy of physics, maybe

1108
01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:32.520
two three year month old compared to
what other Ay, yes, definitely not

1109
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:39.319
an octogenarian. Yeah. So I
want to go ahead and thank you here.

1110
01:33:39.359 --> 01:33:41.560
I'll let you go ahead and say
you have last words. I want

1111
01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:44.039
to let you kind of say whatever
you want to say. It can be

1112
01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:46.199
you know, anything that's coming.
If you want to say one thing and

1113
01:33:46.239 --> 01:33:51.039
one thing or I hope we have
other interviews. I truly I respect you,

1114
01:33:51.119 --> 01:33:56.399
sir. I respect you one hundred
percent, and I honor your your

1115
01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:01.279
your investigative approach, your research,
and your ability not to give up.

1116
01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:06.279
That's what it's all about. No
matter how much crap, how much fecal

1117
01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:14.199
matter, they fraud you just every
now and then deflect you know, yes,

1118
01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:19.640
smells. What can you do?
Keep on going, achieve that objective

1119
01:34:20.319 --> 01:34:25.600
and trust me Ashton, if you're
able to prove this. Wow. Yeah,

1120
01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:32.880
and again stating this for the audience, neither Ashton Forbes nor whatever suicide

1121
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:38.319
ourselves. Thank you, ash I
did have one last question too, which

1122
01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:41.680
I answer because you work for Space
Force. Now is that is that correct?

1123
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:48.479
Uh? Or with them? Since
I mean we have people, I

1124
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:55.760
sir, to me too much.
I don't I can stand lies lies to

1125
01:34:55.800 --> 01:35:00.199
me. You know, like this
whole idea that lies laid of lies upon

1126
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:06.000
lies becoming accepted truths. For God's
it, It's just it's just an a

1127
01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:10.000
total and a them I like,
like sacrilege to me. So I'm not

1128
01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:12.880
gonna lie. No, I don't
work for the Space Force right now.

1129
01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:15.880
I work in the United States,
Nate, got it, Okay, but

1130
01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.000
yeah, okay, yeah, no
problem. Well in that case, then

1131
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:19.600
I yea, I would just pluse
out and say, you know, this

1132
01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:23.880
is the Hard Truth Podcast Number one. This is a big one. I

1133
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:26.640
mean, I respect you more than
you respect me, as much as you

1134
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:29.760
may think that we each have our
own frame of reference and perhaps it's a

1135
01:35:29.840 --> 01:35:31.840
you know, balancing act, but
you're one of my favorite people on the

1136
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:36.520
planet. I've been talking with you
offline as well, and you know,

1137
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:41.319
I want nothing more than to vindicate
you and your science that you've put out

1138
01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:44.640
there. And you know, I
want you to stay strong as well,

1139
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:48.319
because I know that you have been
getting attacked and hopefully this podcast went to

1140
01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:53.560
some degree to you know, have
people take you seriously, which they should

1141
01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:59.359
absolutely. I really need a committee. I need a committee of highly credible,

1142
01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:03.479
highly credited scientist Nobel prize winners.
We talk about Lee Smollen, we

1143
01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:10.880
talk about Seth Lloyd, we talk
about Brian Keating, We're talking about even

1144
01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:14.439
Eric Weinstein. Yeah, I mean, why not. Even though he's not

1145
01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:18.680
of the correct physics pedigree, his
idea of geometric unity is quite interesting,

1146
01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:25.359
even though some papers were written against
it. Please, you know, everybody

1147
01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:29.560
should have some say. But again, give me a committee of highly credible

1148
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:32.239
people, and in one hour,
I promise you, one hour, I

1149
01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:36.359
can prove to them that I at
least know what I'm talking about, at

1150
01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:43.479
least that I'm correct and at least
partially correct. And if not, sir,

1151
01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:46.800
I promise never to do a podcast
again, never to even like publish

1152
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:54.079
one more paper. Well, between
you and I, Between you and I,

1153
01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:58.039
it's not happening anyway. So it's
like I'm getting you, I'm I'm

1154
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:01.000
getting so many rejections. I just
stopped, you know, Like now I

1155
01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:05.199
just go for for pre prints because
in my opinion, it's almost as good

1156
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:11.800
as you know, as long as
the server survives and you're able to That's

1157
01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:15.159
why I asked you. Please show
that paper to everyone you know, just

1158
01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.960
send it up, because it's like
a domino effect. Even if the service

1159
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:21.920
gets shut down here, somebody will
have that paper and somebody will say,

1160
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:28.880
damn, this crap pot wasn't such
a crap pot after all. But anyway,

1161
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:30.760
so do you want to plug anything
as well? That aain somebody brought

1162
01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:32.840
that up. Anything you wanna plug? You have a Twitter? Do you

1163
01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:38.039
have any place where people? No, I'm totally off social media? Oh

1164
01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:42.119
my goodness, are you kidding me? And that again that that thing of

1165
01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:46.880
the I think between you and I, the having social media is conducive to

1166
01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:51.079
that thing that we call it anyway, So yeah, yeah, no,

1167
01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:56.439
no, no, no, no, absolutely, So I just want to

1168
01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:01.319
say, please also go on Kurtgei
Mongol's Theories of every People. Go to

1169
01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:06.920
Tim Ventura interviews, also Project Unity, Jay Anderson, Oh incredible dude,

1170
01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:13.680
And don't forget Jeremy Riz Alien Scientists
a man, very interesting and with that

1171
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:18.079
group of people that those two dudes, Jerremiah the Engineer and Michael Peron.

1172
01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:24.760
He did a thing with Tim Ventura
and LK ninety nine. Watch whoa that

1173
01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:30.920
he's a real material scientist. I
was watching that. Yeah, okay closely,

1174
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:33.399
So yeah, sale's going to be
on the Alien podcast. Are the

1175
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:39.079
Alien the Scientist stream next week,
so guys check that out for sure.

1176
01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:41.640
I'm sure it'll be a great follow
up to what we've been doing here as

1177
01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:43.960
well. I just want to thank
you one more last time. Style.

1178
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:46.760
I couldn't be more appreciative, and
we can chat for a few minutes offline

1179
01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:49.680
here, but thank you very much, Chat and everybody who's on here today,

1180
01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:55.119
everyone who's there on the podcast.
This was the very first inaugural of

1181
01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:56.319
the Hard Truths podcasts.

