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and I swear to god, they're gonna put them on my headstone. Okay,
I think's the mining tough as nails like style. The h GTV even
ended up on my heart media. Hey, who's over there? Who's my
new Blondieunette Burnette? Now know what blond Sam? That's your name? Yeah?
You sure? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay
spell that one, Sam? Sam? Okay, thank you? Sam eats
him? Okay, who's in the studio? Sam? I don't know.
You tell me. I don't know. You tell me. I don't really
actually know. That's really great? That out. Okay, I'll take it
from here. Paul. Great to meet you. I am Paul. That's
right, Paul English. Yes, thanks, last name? Thank you?
You're not related to Olivia English? Are you in taught English? No?
They wish they were related to me. Ah okay, I like that,
and Boston Brays related to everybody. Okay, Paul, tell everybody? What
do we hear? What are we doing? What are you doing? So
right now we're going to talk about a new app that I've created with my
fiance. It's called Lola and it's going to everything you touch turns to gold.
By the way, I'm six for six, yes, six or six
Okay, I would say that's platinum, go ahead, Yeah, pretty good
me. The next one's not going to fix everybody with the sixes. So
I'm best known for Kayak, the travel site, which I started two thousand
and four and took a public and then sold it a price line for two
billion dollars, so it was a really nice outcome. But I've also done
e commerce, customer service, security software, consumer travel, business, travel
and podcasting and my six companies, and now I'm running a little adventure studio
called Boston Bench Studio. And what Aventure Studio does is we come up with
ideas for new companies and we build them and then we raise money, We
hire CEOs, and there off to the races, and we've sold one company
so far. We have five companies under development. I'm just sitting here a
little because and you do all this, and have you ever had any issues
with anything in your life? Major? Like, let me see. One
thing I've been talking about recently is just my journey with bipolar illness. I
got diagnosed at age twenty five and struggled in my twenties and thirties. But
I've been doing really well the last ten years. Ten last years this is
amazing, Like we wouldn't have admitted this fifteen twenty years ago, and now
you're cool if you have some crazy thing, I don't know, Like I've
been talking about my panic attacks for twenty since for thirty six years, but
and people say, why do you tell people you have panic attacks? Because
people will judge you, and people will I don't give two craps who judges
me? Right, But it's funny how now we're letting all the stuff out,
so and I think that's great. Yeah, And what I would say
is smash the stigma, smash the state. We want to make it safe
exactly. Back in January, I took over Tedex Boston and we hosted a
day of nonprofits at UMass Boston, and we had fifteen nonprofit leaders each tell
their story, and I told my story with a nonprofit. I've started five
nonprofits and one of them is called the Bipolar Social Club. And I cried
my own presentation a little bit. It was tough. When I was done
with it, it was the most vulnerable I'd ever been on tape. I
sort of collapsed and had to go home and be a recluse for a day
or two to get my energy back and it's out there. It's up on
YouTube now and I can't take it back. But I've heard it helps people.
Do you want to Yeah, I've heard it. It helps people like
people that are real. I've been real my whole life. I don't know
any other way. So when I meet other people that are real, then
I like real people. I don't like people that are fake and phony and
people think, oh god, they got so much money. No this,
I always say, the poor person that becomes rich if they were we use
the word PRII we won't use, but you know what I'm saying. If
the guy was a PRI before he had money, he's going to be a
PRI after he's got money. Right, and the woman too. I don't
think money should change anybody. Money should be about something that makes life easier
and help others that you can help make maybe somebody else's life a little bit
easier, but should change who you are, right, And I don't think
money has changed to Paul English? Is am I right now? Not a
lot? I mean my best friends, of my high school friends, and
there's five of us and we've been playing proger since we're twelve years old.
We still get together and we know the good back and ugly. We know
where the bodies are buried exactly, and they don't give me any credit for
anything. We just give each other and have the best time. So you
hold on to your old friends. I love them. I'm just going to
take a guess that you can't be a cancer or virgo? Are you?
I'm a virgo? Okay, Virgos don't hold on the friends. Virgo's and
cancers to hold on to friends. Yeah, I have all my friends since
fourth grade amazing and I like those friends. But the new friends I made
right. So people always ask me how many friends did you make on the
ladder of success? Right? I laugh? I go no, no,
no, no, no, you mean how many friends did I lose?
Right? I really want my friends to begin with, and how many acquaintances
did I make? Right? So, yes, I lean on my old
friends because they know you, they know and they know everything. Yeah,
and they're not the judge in or we're just we're just we're back in our
little bodies as kids. But we're growing ups, right, And it's a
good. Virgos and cancers love their old friends because it's a feeling of safety
and home. Great. So that's a good thing, all right. Talked
to me about this dating app. Here's called LOLA. It stands fine for
Love Language l LA. It's Lola dot com. And there's two things about
it that are different than any other dating app. And the reason we came
up with Lola was on my second date with Rachel, which is four years
ago, she pitched me on some ideas for dating app. I'm like,
it sounds interesting. I get pitched like every day for yeah, my now
fiance. We met four years ago and on our second date, she said,
I have an idea for dating app, and pitch me and we would
talk about it. She could go on that second date, the first date
to try to pitch you. How did you actually meet her on a dating
Yeah? And she would pitch me every now. And because both of us
were like I would describe as prolific daters, we did it a lot.
I mean two in one night, three on the weekends. I mean really,
Yeah, I love meeting people. I love meeting people. So to
me, dating was away just to meet different people, you know, in
different places. Anyway, Rachel and I hit it off, and well way,
first of all, like, see what will say to me in the
old days, like early on, if I if I sing this text,
say you need me, it's some point, it's amazing. Yeah, yeah,
I love it. How many of those did you do in one night?
How do you escape? Scapevals? Is that they called the escape belves.
I've literally had friends that like go for drinks and they'll be like the
person looks at the picture and they go out. They like walk by their
date and go out the back door of the bar. Yeah, that's not
a good thing. Like you get to look your picture. You can't clean
your picture up to a point where you don't look neat the picture. One
of my women friends, single woman, once was on a date, a
bad date, and she excused herself to go to the bathroom. When she
called me from the bathroom and she said, call me in five minutes and
tell me there's been an accident in my family. And then then we don't
want to bring bad comic to our family. Right, there's been an accent
to a friend of a friend just can't be out of her gate. So
all right, so go ahead, I'm sorry to interrupt. So we were
talking about it every now and then, and then finally last summer, I'm
not running this venture studio, and our job is to create apps and create
companies. So I said, let me look into this dating thing. So
we did a last summer and we interviewed two hundred and fifty people about dating
and we asked him what they didn't like about dating apps. They told us
ten or a dozen things they hated about dating apps. There's a lot of
terrible things about dating apps. But the two biggest problems was one people said,
it's just way too much work. You're swiping and swiping, it'sart chatting
with someone. You think you're connecting, then they ghost you. They just
sort of disappear. You're talking to ten people at once, you forget who
you're talking to, and it just takes forever to meet someone. And then
the second problem that we heard from women in particular is a met a guy
online. He seemed cool, they go to meet him in person, big
letdown. Either guy was catfishing them, looks nothing like his photos he used
like his college photos instead of what he looks like now, or the guy
was just a jerk, you know, And we want to solve both those
problems. Okay, So just so you know where I'm coming from, right
when my daughter firus got onto a dating app. I'm like, only we
had people do that. She goes, no, Mom, this is the
news. It's the majority now right. So but to me at my generation,
like yeah, with all first that like you're on a what oh my
god, you're such a loser, right, Like this is like can't you
meet a person that's the majority? That's the majority? Right? So,
but that was my my brain going, get off that thing, like what
if you meet something they hurt you. Listen, let's hold that offtment.
We go to break I'm Sidy stumbling and listen to WBZ News Radio ten thirty.
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ten thirty. And I'm Cindy and I'm here my daughter Samantha, my new
brunette, and I'm here with all English. Okay, now introduce themselves.
Good now, Eric can start introduce themselves. Go ahead, Paul, finish
up what you were saying. So those are the two biggest problems we heard.
Way too much work takes too long to actually meet someone in real life,
and then somebody to meet someone's a creep, like you meet someone's a
jerk, and we want to fix both of them more jerks than not jerks
in your eyes. I have to put this app together, I will say,
in my humble opinion single career, yes, like sort of between serious
girlfriends and I'm using the apps. I think most people are pretty nice,
really. I mean I did meet a number of people who catfished me,
would send me like their modeling photos from twenty years ago, exactly what they
look like when I met them at Masters and Seaport or whatever. But most
people are nice people. I mean, we all have our stories, but
can these dating apps like we if we all remember we had the what was
that? We watched it on Lifetime original The Twindler No Tinder Swindler, Right,
I saw that? Yeah? Like crazy crazy? So is there any
way to vet these people before coming on Apple? You really can't. So
this is what we're doing. The first thing is when you install Lola for
the very first time, we say Lola is for people who want to go
out on dates this week, and then we say what night do you want
to go out? You know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, there's a
Friday. We share the next five nights. There's a little button saying not
ready yet. If you click that, we say Lola for people want to
go out on dates this week and meet in real life. If you just
want to chat, we highly recommend Tinder Bumble. They're great for chatting,
which is sort of a you know saying, the other apps aren't really about
meeting people, they're just about chatting endlessly. The second thing we do is,
let's say you what's your husband saying? Again, right, Ray?
Let's say you match. Let's say you say I'll go out. Well,
you're going up great form fiance the husband go ahead, okay good. Let's
say you say I'll go out on Tuesday night. That's your free night.
We only show you people who are ready to go out Tuesday night. So
let's say you match with Ray, you chat with them in the app,
you make plans to go out Tuesday night. On Wednesday morning, we message
you and we say, did you go out with Ray last night? Yes?
So no, how would you rate your experience one to five? I'm
gona tell you more about this in a second. Then we say, which
of these positive and negative actibutes. Would you associate with Ray? So you're
asking both parties yes, and it takes one minute to answer these four questions.
He's an idiot. He didn't look like what he looked like. Let's
say if you rate him A one, we ask whoa what went wrong?
And one of the things you can click is I felt unsafe? Okay,
if someone is marked is unsafe by people who are like good people on the
platform lifetime ban So we're kicking out all the like really bad daters, like
the awful people are going to be as we speak. What downloading this as
we speak? Oh, we're downloading this as we speak. Okay. Now
I have a direct line to Paul if anything ever happens to my daughter.
Okay, So anybody's listening that's on this app, Okay, we'll take good
care of her. Paul's can watch over you. You're going on the the
ip liss absolutely and then these people pay how much a month to be on
your app? Right now, it's free for this year because we're just trying
to build an audience. We're launching in Boston. Most dating apps are around,
it's just going to be for Boston people. Right now. Right now,
it's just in Boston. We're going to launch in New York, Batam
right Boston. Yeah, we're trying to make just get all the kinks out,
make sure it works well, people understand that they like it. We'll
launch in New York and the summer. We'll launch in Miami in the fall,
and then we'll raise around to financing and take it national. And that's
the game plan. Let's plan. And any of these dating software whatever,
Twindler, what is it called Bubble or the tender Bumble, Have any of
these companies been brought out. Yeah, there's there's quite a lot of buyout.
There's one company called the Match Group, which is the old match dot
com. Yeah, they own I want to say, at least fifteen or
twenty dating companies. They're buying a lot of them up, Bumble Independent Bumble
is wildly successful. And then the Match Group they own Match, Tinder,
Plenty of Fish, the League which I'm friends with the founder Hinge. I'm
friends of the founder. I was an investor in Hinge, so I'm friends
with one of the Tender founders. I have connections in the industry. I
have some great advisors who are telling me watch out for these landmines. So
the Timlos Swindler, whatever came out, did that hurt? Did that hurt
that app for a while. I don't think it did, which is surprising.
Yeah, you would have thought that that would have hurt all the app.
It did it, But that guy we kicked off our app because as
soon as someone figures them out, lifetime ban. Okay, now with these
apps or your app, because I know nothing about these apps, so I'm
talking from the dumbest part of my brain right now. Do you have a
VIP section that people have to pay more money to upgrade? Because I don't
know, like they should be a VIP section. Are you even have a
VIP section? We don't have that yet. But one thing we do have,
and Samantha is now on the list, is we have a friends of
Lola. So there's certain profiles that get like a gold star and when people
see that, they're going to say, whoa, why do you have a
gold star? Okay? And in the short term, you know, maybe
that means this is one of our premium users, and the shortter means you're
like you're friends with the Lola founders. There's certain people were going to highlight
and show their profile more often and show them to high profile people other high
profile people. So that's what you're doing. So basically, like all my
verification badges that I never paid for, that I actually earned on my own,
Yeah, now you can buy them. Yeah, well that's fine.
A lot of the apps they also make you, like even if you post
photos, they make you verify your photos. They make you take a photo
of yourself right in that moment. We do that as well. You do
that, yeah, because we want to make sure that they're not catfishing and
sending photos of other people. Catfishing meals, so catfishing means uh here.
So basically, like if I was on the app and I used your photo
and said I was you, and then you're meeting me thinking it's you,
they change their photos. Yeah, absolutely. And the other thing that happens
a lot, and this creeps me out, but men go on dating apps
and they upload photos of women and they say they're a woman. What,
yeah, I know that one. No, it's weird. What do you
mean they say, the woman? I don't know. It's weird, but
it happens. And so what it means is if you're a guy on one
of these dating apps and you're messaging with a woman and kind of falling for
it. You might be messaging a guy, right, what the right?
That doesn't happen on Lola because we do the photo verification. Oh okay,
when you upload photos, we then say, turn on the camera, do
a selfie of yourself. We analyze to make sure it's a real human.
You're not holding up to a photo. This different technology. We can make
sure you hold up to a face and we make sure that face matches the
photos you upload. Got it, so we get rid of cat fishing,
Sammy, you know more about this stuff than I do. Okay, what
do you want to know? I want you to ask Paul some questions because
you know why, like base it off of love languages. I mean I
always ask people with their love languages, but like why it's not so the
term love language was in use way before that book came out. There's a
book called Love Lingue the Five Love Languages. Yeah, but love language,
that phrase has been around for hundreds of years, and we just think it's
you know, what's the chemistry between two people, Like what's important to what's
important to me? And it's not literally the book. We don't ask you,
you know, I like gifts, affirmation, whatever the five are.
It's more like we're going to connect you to someone. And the other thing
about going out this week is we're telling people take a chance. Meet someone
online who looks interesting, Go meet them. That might be the love of
your life. And maybe they don't look maybe they don't exactly what you think
you're looking for. Rachel often tells people that issue was paying more attention.
She would have filtered me out and not met me. We have an age
difference, and she says, I don't know why I'm dating someone so old,
but anyway, I clicked it's big. It's twenty years so she's how
old about thirty five? In sixty? No, you're not, I am
get out of here in sixty? He give me a fist bum bro.
Okay, that's because you have they would say, because you have a full
head of here. Okay, yeah, that's it his thing. I've got
a full head of here. You never look at your age, No,
you don't look you know, you actually look like you're in your late forties.
The best? How's that word? Sixty? And I'm not I got
to say that in a few more months. I don't know if I can
handle that word. That's like, oh God, Okay, so you and
Rachel found each other and you're madly in love and coming from some of my
generation, we met through I don't know, like we all got kind of
marry young and we knew everybody, and everybody knew each other, and this
is just a different world for me. Yeah. I mean back in the
day, I would meet people through work, through friends at bars. So
there's no dating apps. People don't want to go out the way they used
to go out in the eighties and nineties anymore. They don't want to do
that. And after a certain age, what you're working, you're tired.
It's a game of numbers. I think choosing your mate, your life partner,
is the most important decision you'll make your entire life. That person will
determine in many ways. Do you feel supported love, Do you feel safe?
Do you feel safe to innovate, safe to try things, safe to
take risks. Your partner should be all that for you. Now, why
would you choose amongst three people? It's a game of numbers. You should
meet a lot of people, and maybe it's not the third person. You'll
meet. It might be the twenty third person you'll meet, but if you
meet some more people, you might just fut slash all that thought. We're
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And I'm Cindy and I'm here with Samantha and Paul, who is now
dating now just commits me to download a new dating app or what's that called
again, Lola? Hey, yeah, yeay, yay, yay, you
know what we do. No, she's gonna make you out a feature that
she can spy on what I'm doing. And she's gonna be like, I
will pay like three times the amount for that because she's going to do that.
That's I'll play the movie because I said so where she created a dating
app for her daughter, her hope profile. Oh yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, I have a question for you. Do you share your location
with your mom? No, but she does, but all my friends have
my location and she does with my fiance, And so you share your location
with Ray but not Mom. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty funny. So
good night's because we also worked here. You don't want you don't want Mom
to show up on the date? Oh, she won't. She won't even
drive the bar. I used to do that all the time back in the
day. But the point is, like I couldn't find Sammy's fast on her
texts, like, right, boom boom boom, you sent her text like
last week. So I sent her text, Hi, Sam, I got
a question and we're working on this is a this is a twenty million dollar
land by right, Like, she's not returning my text right, Like I
need to know that, Sam. And then I see her father coming into
the group family text, Hey, has anybody talked to Sam? Say?
I'm like, come to think of it, I haven't spoke to Sam.
Say my son comes in. I haven't spoke to her. Well where is
she? Sindey? I go, how do I know where she is?
Right? Like, let me find her? So I privately text her.
She doesn't reply. I'm like, Ray, I know Sammy, she has
a location. Just let me know she's safe. So he goes, I'm
not getting involved, so he must know that she's safe. Right. So,
but I'm still I go. You know, I forget you, right,
like if you saw that she was in the library. I don't know
what he thought, commentsman parks somewhere near where she lives. Right. So
I then text her friend Danielle, and I go, Danielle, it's sin
blah blah bah. Have you spoke the same thing? Yep, I get
one answers back. Right, Okay, have you spoke to the last couple
of hours? Yes, we're at Sammy. Do you know yes? Weah,
she's on a date. Do we know who this dude is? Yes?
Is she safe? Yes? Okay, thank you. Then I come
back again. How do you know he's safe? I think they went to
school together at some point in their lives. Right, And then I just
backed it off, right because with twitch Yeah he ma's my phone. Thirty
two texts later. But understand why I live in a real world. I
live in. If Chad didn't answer, you don't look for him every five
seconds. It's not me because I'm respond like that. No, because your
brother a strong thirty year old guy that can handle himself better than most,
and I know like no one's gonna grab him. No, all the guy's
gonna grab him. Good luck, and he's he's his common sense, he's
sharp, hes street, he's all that. Sammy thinks. The world is
made of wonderful people. There's no bad there's no boogeyman. Okay, they're
all good people. Right, So different kids, it's to same parents.
But okay, we're going to go back to the app. But yes,
I worry about my children. Go ahead, you asked Paul the hot question.
How do you plan to different each differentiate this app with all the other
dating apps. There's a couple of things. I mean, the most important
things. The city stuff was going to be wanted. The most important thing
is we want a great community of daters. We wanted we want to be
able to filter out the bad guys almost to the point where you can go
out bad woman too, and bad women. Yeah, we're going to becoming
very abusive. Have noticed that too? Do you want them? Answer?
Okay, go ahead, sorry, but we want we want to hooks now.
We want to filter the baddies and almost where you could have dinner with
anyone on Lola, male, female, whatever and have a good time.
Because it's a great community people. So we're doing a lot to market to
that. We're doing a lot to curate that, and we're doing things to
filter out people that aren't good daters. Okay, well, just because they're
a bad data doesn't mean they're a bad person. Right, Well, it
depends how the If someone gets rated a one star, we ask why they
rated a one star. This is the other thing. If you rate Let's
say you got on Ray on that first Tuesday night on Monday, we ask
you to rate him one to five. Right, I get feedback, the
positive native feedback includes things like the positive things like yeah, but what if
I'm crazy. Well, we look at how people rate you, and we
look at everyone you rate. If you give every guy, if you give
every guy one, the problem's not the guy, it's right, it's you.
The problems you. But when you rate Ray and I'm sure you would
have given him a five, we then show what are these positive actibuis?
I dated Rate in high school, married my husband Joe, and I got
divorced like eighteen years before he did, and then he got divorced like three
years before he came into my life. Well not divorced, but was separated
for three years. So I went from Jille to Ray, Right, a
way to Joe to Ray right, welcome to be in a cancer But that's
me. I need that. I need to know who you are, like
I don't know you all live in a weird alien world book Well, because
there's also a sense of like if if you know them too much and you're
not interested, then you feel like you're stuck with that person in your life
and maybe you don't want them in your life. What's that mean? Like
if you like, when you're meeting someone in dating app and like you don't
actually know them, say it doesn't work out, no harm, no foulow,
and you don't have to then deal with them. But no one gets
a little psycho and like likes you more, maybe chase you a little bit
hotter, and you push them away and they don't like that. They don't
like to get I don't really go past one day if I don't like you,
Okay, what happens? You go in two, three days and they
don't like that you're blowing them off? Does that happen? Paul? I
usually tell someone I'm not interested, but a lot of people do ghost people.
But I usually say I'm not interested, And what if they are still
interested and become like creepy people. I mean that can happen even you meet
somebody in real life. That's true. You got me on that one.
You got to answer. I'm glad you answered that one is true to give
that. I mean, there could be someone that's talking me all the time.
I have no idea and never met them. The generation on your app
is what ages. The marketing that we're doing initially in Boston is so it'd
be demographics. I'm sorry. The initial demographics that we're marketing to in Boston
sort of young professionals, like late twenties and thirties. However, we have
everything from eighteen to I don't know about eighty, but we have every age
on there. The reason we're marketing initially to the young professionals, it's just
so that when they open an app, there'll be a lot of other people
their age that they can match with, which is smart. Yeah. Plus
they know how to use those apps much better than older people do. Should
be toold maybe, yeah, I know I'm tech no more, but I
just hear my phone. Let's I have kids. I didn't know that's why
I had kids that my kids had to fix all my apps. So you
I discovered a new reason to have kids. So you can have grandkids?
Why do we want those? My son and his wife just had their first
child. I'm so in love. I'm so happy. Really, Oh my
god. So do you love the grand children more than you love your children?
Not more, but differently. I'm really enjoying him, and I'm and
I love my son as a father. He's such a great father. So
watching the son that you raised that became the husband. Yeah, I don't
know what was more magical, this new little being entering into the world.
Are seeing my son become a father? Both of them are pretty amazing.
I'm sure it is. Yeah, I still want to know. Right now,
I'm happy. I just want a couple of years not taking care of
anybody. What's my frozen eggs? She frozen ages? Can we put that
on the dating app? I get frozen? Ach? No, But they're
matchmakers, they ask you that question. Apparently certain guys will not date a
woman of a certain age unless they know they're ex are frozen? I never
heard of that. Yeah, wow, Wow, that's a private question.
That's a personal question. But okay, hip hop with another question. Sammy
says, you're the dating app queen. What kind of user experiences Lola aim
to provide? And how do you prioritize use, your feedback and satisfication?
Oh my god, I can't talk satisfication yet. Wow, that's a good
question. You dumb that down for me. I don't know how dumb it
down myself. No, I get it. I get it. You know
my career. I'm an engineer. But I can understand the question since I'm
sitting here. What did she just ask you? She asked me about the
use experience, like what does app look like? What does it feel like
to use it? And when I think about the questions like this, it's
it's less about the dating features. It's more like is that fast? Is
it clean? Is it fun? Is it simple? Is it understandable the
first time you use it? So things like that. And I'm an engineer
by training, but most of my career is managing design like a Kayka manage
a design team. And I'm obsessed with branding and with perception and with how
people feel about your product. And if you study and do think, there's
something called usability testing where you bring someone into a lab and watch them use
your product, and you put cameras and you watch, you know, how
they use your products. You can learn a lot about what works and what
doesn't work. And for example, at Kayak, we used to have this
special monitor that had two little cameras in it and it would lock on the
person's eyeballs to look at where they're looking on the screen. We'd have someone
interviewing that use of being tested, like me or someone on my team.
In the next room, we might have a dozen engineers were watching this user
trying to use Kayak, and on the big screen in the second room,
you'd see whatever page you were on a Kayak, let's say flight search.
You see that the first or was trip Advisor, the first who was oh,
expeedier in Travelocity with the first tip, the first time Priceline. Those
are the original ones O G. Yeah, and then you came up.
We came out in O four. Because sometimes the first one doesn't do even
though it's the first one. Sometimes, like if you take technology like MySpace
didn't make it, but then Facebook came up and smarter than the first mover.
Is not always the best exactly. Yeah, I'm going to just tell
you a whole that I thought we're going to break ups to be Stumpo and
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WBZ News Radio ten thirty and I'm here with Sammy and I'm here with Paul.
We're talking about his amazing dating service that is now what's the name of
its? Sam Lola Lola? Okay, go ahead, next question, what
are your goals and aspirations for Lola in the coming years. Okay, this
is gonna sound funny, but I would say a year from now, you
want to say, take another three billion. Let's say this some technology conference,
maybe south By Southwest in Austin, Texas. If my team goes to
south By and they're wearing their Lola shirts, I wanted to be crowds around
them. I want people to love my team. I want to build a
magical, magical team. I have this thing with each of my companies where
I've said magical teams build magical products, and magical products build magical p and
ls. So my first goal with Lola is have like perfection, just this
incredibly high energy team has the mojo. They finish each other's sentences, they
laugh at each other's jokes. They just like love, love working together.
The second thing I want is the best product ever created in the dating industry.
So that seems like what you want for the legacy of Lola. It's
kind of you know, obviously I want to make money too, right,
Well, no, we want to work for free. No, we want
if we want to work. If we want to work for free, we'll
just go to get exercise, Like we'll go to the gym, right if
we need any more exercise at our reach, we don't need exercise, right,
It's just but this is your high too. But I always say that
when you love what you do, it's really not work, nop, Like,
it's not I love what I do. She loves what she does.
People that wait for Monday, like way for Fridays because they need that weekend.
No, I wait for Monday. It works seven days, right,
So but there's those people that, oh, God, Friday's here. Right,
So every once in a while I'll say that because I just need like
a mental break for like four hours seven right, then I'm right back at
it. But I think you've loved your whole career what you do? So
is it really a job when you not? I'm the thing I enjoy every
day? Isn't looking at my bank account I enjoy? Well, that's kind
of fun too. Interacting with the team. I enjoy interact with customers.
It is fun. But you know what, okay, you know else is
also fun too. Okay, fun, you can compare notes on the break.
But you know what else is fun is giving away money. Absolutely.
I love to give me money. When I made my first million when I
was twenty nine, and I made a rule that I said, from now
on for the rest of my life, my minimum tip is twenty dollars.
So when I buy a cup of coffee, since a twenty nine I buy
a cup of coffee, I always give twenty dollars. Yeah, what I
leave everybody, Doug, You know its every morning if there's five people working,
everyone gets ten dollars. It's everybody gets to those they could be five
to everybody. They see me coming, My coffee's already made as I'm walking
through the door. Right, It's a great feeling. And then it's Christmas
time whatever, and you slip the guy dunk I'm not stop bucking out a
donkeys. I'm a donkey's. I gave them a hundred hundred hundred. And
I couldn't do that if I wasn't making a living, right, And last
week I was. It's a feel good feeling. Look at we all donate.
I've been donating to Saint Jude's hospital that they've been praynant with her,
right, and the hospitals and and and you name it politicians and this.
But when you can actually hear the might of somebody like raise the most generous
man you've ever met, Like everybody around that pool deck every all day,
he's like, open up an a corn account, right, and here here's
one hundred. All you guys put one hundred in your eight corner. He's
just so special like that. We'll be somewhere. The guy that cleans the
ash tray, he'll give him twenty dollars, like, but that's that.
Like last week, I was in Napa Valley with a good friends. He
grew up a revere, right, he didn't grow up with any money,
right, so he's a hard working guy. I mean, I grew up
most rocks with My dad was a pipe feder. Okay, they are nine
people, three bedroom house, nine people three bedroom houses. Yeah, but
I'll tell you something fun happen last week. I was in Napa Valley with
a friend of mine who's wealthy, and we're talking about tippings. We were
tipping people a lot last week. So we're drinking wine, having a good
time, leaving very big tips. And I challenged him and I said,
sometime in the next week, let's find the most amazing wadar and tip them
ten thousand dollars. We haven't done it yet, but I'm going to do
it. You know who's done Ernie's Ernie Box done things like that. Ernie
does always does crazy. Yeah, right, But imagine when you do something
that you're changing somebody's life, like you're really making on the dating app.
Are you a good tipper? No? Most people are cheat. Yeah,
we do have this problem. The first bottom it's for money or the first
communion money and they still have it. Okay, like either you're a generous
person who you're not. I don't think it's something. It's like loyalty.
Either you're loyal or you're not. Either your generously or not. Some people
just have a personality flaw that they just can't be generous. They're just cheat.
I have way more fun giving way money money, absolutely, and I
like making money. I like both ye me too, Okay, making it
and giving. Ay, that's like there's something about like when you pay tesch
to what somebody wants and you give them a present and you see the reaction
that they notice that you paid attention and made their day. So there's two
people, Paul. I don't like gifts. I get very uncomfortable language.
No, same, don't buy me giving them. And I love giving.
You know, I send to my kids every Mother's Day, Christmas everything.
I need nothing, just for you guys to be healthy minded, live a
nice life, be good, be happy. That's it, right, And
then raygo's crazy like call on Sammy, what stop? Like just stop?
Then you buy me the gift and I'm so uncomfortable opening it. But then
I'll give you twenty and I get excited watching you open them. But I
used to make my kids. I'd say, okay, we're going to go
buy toys for children that don't have right, or like I was always selling
wrapping paper and I always got the biggest prize and I was always maybe gave
it, give it away, So she'd get the biggest prize, right for
selling the most wrapping paper, girls go cookies or whatever it was, whatever
it was, right, I mean while I'm selling them to all my guys
in the business. Right, And then she win the prize and said,
Okay, you don't need the bicycle. You're going to find something. You're
going to give that bicycle. Incredible, right, And she'd be like,
first was like, well, why have to give the bike away? Because
you're going to make a difference in somebody else's life. Because truthfully, you
didn't sell any of that wrapping paper or the cookies. I did it,
and now you are going to do something for somebody else. I just did
it for you. And that's how she learns, right, And she'd give
up whatever. She always got the biggest kid. Yes, that's what you
gotta teach your children. How to be generous, how to be kind.
We do have on the feedback after you've been on a date. One of
the things we asked for constructive feedback is you can rate someone as not nice
to waiters. Oh really, that's a good Yeah, that's a good question
because we all should be incredibly nice to our waiters. They work hard,
and it's a job no one wants anymore, right, so you walk the
job. Yeah? So okay, all right, so let's let's give me
a hypothetic. Sammy goes on a date on your app. Your app's could
be up and running. When is it up and running? Now? It's
up and running. Now for creating an account and creating a profile. We're
gonna start matching in the next I would say two to three weeks. So
the algorithm kind of matches, does this? Yes, we ask you a
bunch of preferences. We ask you are you you know your gender, what
gender you want to date? Your age, what age range you want to
date? We ask is a question are you good looking? No? Well
that would be no because they're ugly people, and they're good looking people.
Sorry, I hate to say it. I know on Facebook everybody thinks the
kids are so beautiful, But there's some beautiful kids. How can we have
so many ugly people walking around America? So no, they should be a
good thing. I want a good looking guy that looks like, I don't
know, raise a co looking guy, but I can't use him. I
want a Brad Pitt. Well, that wouldn't be your generation. But I'm
just saying you can't put in there. If it looks from point you,
well, you can see the photos and we will detect on you. Excuse
me, it's his app Okay, I can't call you blonde. You over
there, so shush you over there, brunette. We will watch which profiles
you interact with. When you see a profile, you either click left or
right, like I want to meet this pressure, I don't want to meet
them. If we start noticing that looks is all you're clicking on, we'll
start sending you just good really good looking people. Oh that would be me.
Yeah, I like it looking people. I can't lie. What if
they can't have a conversation. We can get past that. You don't really
need to talk. I just need to look at you. Okay, Okay,
so you're not that's fine, Okay. You can't be as dumb as
a bag of hammers. There's gonna be a little bit of something going on
that brand. I'm so lucky Rais God, he's articulately smart and he's handsome.
Well think I don't even know it's with me. You've better find a
forty year old thirty five twenty five, No I'm kind of like stuck here
because I still try to understand your world, your brain, how it works,
because your brain is like, did you know you're this smart? I
don't know. I think I know a lot of people smarter than me.
We can always buy brains, you know that, right, But some has
to come up with the idea for us. Yeah, and then some he
has to then put the idea. What's the sense of having the knowledge if
you don't take the action, right? Yeah, and act? One thing,
one thing I will say about myself positively is I'm extremely action oriented.
A lot of people talk about ideas and they never do it, and they
never do anything. I read one hundred books on how to be successful and
don't do a thing. Yeah. I love taking risks and just trying stuff
and you might fail. Just try again and again and again and again,
and you'll figure it out. I agree, Yeah, I always. You
know, we debate this on Clubhouse. Do you need knowledge direction? You
need both? That case, without knowledge, you don't take the action.
Without action, you don't take you know, we'll actually take the more knowledge
gain, the more knowledge, the more action. But they sit there and
read fifty books on how to be successful and no one's successful or they don't
get successful because they didn't take the action. Sam you have another question because
we got no seconds. Okay, you're out of question. So we got
to go out to break. Okay. Listen to Cindy Stump on Toughest Nails
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in touch and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty.
And I'm Cindy and I'm here with Sammy, and I'm here with Paul.
Paul, take us out. Tell me about the app Real Fast Swedes Digest
version. The app's called Lola Sinsel Love Language l o l a dot com
and we're the new dating app launching now in Boston. We're trying to build
the best community of daters in the city of Boston, people you really want
to hang out with and have a good time. Okay, and then you'll
move out to the States. Yes, so Boston is going to be our
beta. That's right at beta testing. Okay, everybody, have a great,
safe weekend. We'll see you next weekend. I'm Citney Stumbo top his
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