1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,120 Hello ladies, Joe and welcome back to the Mad Max retrospective on the Clown 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,839 Princes of Leather, Tress, Snail and I'm joined by I'm the Cheeks, 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:17,079 Kirk, I'm the pilots to the Field. You would be the pilot. 4 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:22,239 So, uh, yes, this is the retrospective series leading up to Furiosa. 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,480 What does it again, a mad Max story or some shit like that, 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,760 a mad Max World stuper, just get mad Max, get that shit 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,760 out of here. We get it. It's mad Max, all right. 8 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:36,159 But yes, you can go back and check out the feeds and if your 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,159 public feed is, it's definitely back there. If you're on Patreon, you 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,399 coob been listening to this month's early ad free early exclusive, you know, 11 00:00:43,719 --> 00:00:45,840 go do that. You get to support us and create new shows, new 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,320 content if you really like what we do. If not, just head down 13 00:00:48,359 --> 00:00:51,280 to everything you you know down below two like and subscribe and all that good 14 00:00:51,359 --> 00:00:56,399 jazz. But yeah, we were reviewing every single Mad Max, which luckily 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,679 just four of them to get to Furiosa. So we did Mad Max last 16 00:00:59,679 --> 00:01:04,560 week at the Road Warrior this week. So yeah, let's let's talk about 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:11,400 it. Mister Field, what did you think of the Road Warrior. I. 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,400 Yeah, I've never seen this one before. Again, my experience was 19 00:01:14,439 --> 00:01:19,480 really limited just to the Fury Road one and the original one. So this 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,439 this was unshuted territory. And I actually liked it a lot more than I 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:29,519 was expecting, because I get I wasn't expecting that I was really gonna enjoy 22 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,519 it, but just because it just like I didn't watch any trailers, but 23 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:37,200 I've seen like a couple images and stuff like that. But I liked how 24 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:42,280 simple it was. I liked how it was just this basic story and the 25 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,799 only con I really do have is just how stupid the character's decisions are, 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,680 and mostly just I feel like Max is actually pretty stupid at times in this 27 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:53,560 with what he decides to do. But I guess it's just this blunt like 28 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:59,599 determination that he has just to keep doing what he's doing trekking on and that 29 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,040 really cost him a lot in this movie. But yeah, I overall, 30 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:08,159 I I enjoyed it, and it's, uh, it's cool to see this 31 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:12,400 world kind of expanded and built up a little bit more. I like how 32 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:14,960 it had this intro that kind of gave us a little bit more insight into 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,680 the overall story and just the world and how things kind of got to where 34 00:02:17,719 --> 00:02:23,800 they are, and just how things have really changed since that first film with 35 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:29,919 this really really transitioned over. And uh, yeah, I'm I don't think 36 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 there were any other like reoccurring Characters's just Max that was back for this, 37 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,960 right, I mean, ye, different dog or was it the same dog? 38 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:40,039 Doesn't have to be like the same dog actor, but like, yeah, 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,439 it was like the same dog or that he had. Yeah, he 40 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:46,360 wanted too much money, so they had to recast. Yeah, I guess 41 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:52,240 new dog next time. Baby, that's what you said. Baby? What 42 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:54,159 did he did? He die in the first one? The dog? Why 43 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:58,199 can't I remember? I don't remember the dog dying. I don't remember the 44 00:02:58,199 --> 00:03:00,039 dog even being in the first one. Yeah, I remember he got like 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,639 a puppy, went like, yeah, it was very random. You're right, 46 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:10,240 it could be right, but I don't know for sure. M Yeah, 47 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,080 I guess. The only other thing, too, is just the way 48 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,080 people dress in the Apocalypse is like they're going to a rave, which just 49 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,240 doesn't make any sense. There's some stuff like you're scaling trucks and like climbing 50 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,000 up and like sliding your ass on ship, like Oh yeah, they're Rusty 51 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,319 cuts man, Yeah, rusty cuts, Like you gotta have that ten for 52 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,520 sure. You've seen the campaign. You've seen the campaign with the rusty slide 53 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,000 that they go down. That's just what I picture on their ass cheeks. 54 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Great movie the campaign. Are you done? Go for it? Speak just 55 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,280 adding on to the whole attire thing is like, because this is like what 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,240 people would wear like Bernie Man or something essentially like like this type of attire, 57 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,599 and like, is that is that all just like inspired because of Mad 58 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:59,039 Max, like this apocalyptic like leathers, asses out, funky goggles. Do 59 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:02,000 they wear assholes leather at Burning Man? Oh yeah, I'm sure never been, 60 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:06,080 but well, fig that's a big assumption. N Now, there definitely 61 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:14,039 was that at the club on Friday night. There's definitely that kind of at 62 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,920 Friday is not Burning Man, No, but they were dressed like that, 63 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,040 so if I mean, yeah, the asses were just out everywhere, not 64 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,199 just guys googling, I called bullshit. I don't think anyone else had like 65 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,920 a singlet leather thing at the Rack. It was definitely rave night at the 66 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,959 Corral. I can tell you that. Did anyone have a leather singlet like 67 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:38,959 some of these main characters skint, like just skin pop out there. Yeah. 68 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,720 Actually there was actually a lot of like I call it bathing suits, 69 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:45,959 but it was not just bathing suits. It was like full on like they 70 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:51,000 were out they what was out? They were and with me to the Crawl 71 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,079 on Friday Night, I'll show you Kirklands some quick Google images they kind of 72 00:04:56,079 --> 00:05:00,360 got, like the funky goggles. I'll give you the goggle. I guess 73 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,720 that I was expecting. I'll give you the goggles. There you are. 74 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:12,959 That's okay, that's just like the press tour, that's just him. Yeah, 75 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,240 I guess I don't know, because we're just burning man over side like 76 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,839 Nevada, I think, like the desert. Yeah, it's tough because I 77 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:20,959 just don't know. Like Mad Max was a big movie, but I just 78 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:25,920 don't know if it was like that big to inspire, like we dressed like 79 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,639 this because we all loved Mad Max and that start. Like, I don't 80 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:30,600 know if it's that. I think it's probably more George Miller riffing on those 81 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,959 type of genre of clothing or attires. That's why I'd say it's more probably 82 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:42,079 him pulling from stuff in that era than them inspiring burning Man, but you 83 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,879 never know, you never know. Yeah, so going going through all these 84 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:53,680 movies, Actually it's my first time experiencing Mad Max. I watched Fury Road 85 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,199 for the first time last year. I probably already talked about this on the 86 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,519 first episode. I don't know why I'm reiterating that, but just so we're 87 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:01,360 all clear, this is my first go around with these Mad Max films. 88 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,399 Give us your review of Mad Maxican. So the first one, yeah, 89 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:11,199 it was, it was pretty good. No, I I felt like because 90 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,920 I didn't I don't know, I had certain expectations going into maybe the first 91 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,759 one what to expect because of just what I had seen from Fury Road, 92 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:21,279 and then didn't like it as much as I I kind of was expecting to 93 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,000 for that first one, and then here for the second one. Now, 94 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:29,000 I actually I actually liked this one quite a bit more than the first, 95 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,079 I think because it's not so much an origin story anymore, like we did 96 00:06:32,079 --> 00:06:35,199 get that in the last film. Now it's just it's just Mad Max the 97 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,439 road Warrior, you know, like he's he's got his grizzled five o'clock shadow. 98 00:06:40,519 --> 00:06:44,439 Look, he's he's got his his nice leather jacket, his car is 99 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,879 all ready to go, He's got his his man's best friend next to him. 100 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Does the dog ever have a name? Does he ever say the name 101 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:54,759 of the dog? Just dog? Okay? I thought dog was great and 102 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,519 just that look I remember way back when we did the man early days of 103 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,480 the podcast. So we did the fallout for review and Travis was mentioning just 104 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:09,399 like the certain attire that would remind him of like Mad Max in that in 105 00:07:09,439 --> 00:07:11,720 that game, and of course you have like dog Meat, which is your 106 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:15,120 dog compatrion. So now I am seeing the similarities just in hindsight. But 107 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,519 that look I think is very iconic. And when I even though I hadn't 108 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,120 seen Mad Max's before we started this Red Show, I at least knew what 109 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,600 that imagery was of, like the the the Apocalypse and just the man in 110 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:31,319 the leathers with the double barrel shotgun and his dog. So here I feel 111 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:35,439 like, very like it has become iconic, but also just like back then, 112 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,199 I'm sure there is, but I just feel like the genre for post 113 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,959 blocked optic movies was not like massive right, so it was like no, 114 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,399 definitely starting in a territory to be starting to like carve its own legacy out 115 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:50,839 so absolutely, and I feel like this movie, it it gets rid of 116 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:56,519 some of the fluff that I thought maybe messied the story of the first movie. 117 00:07:57,279 --> 00:08:00,399 It's as Taylor was saying, like it seems a lot more simple actually, 118 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,839 because it's not an origin story. It's just a guy needs gas and 119 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,199 like how does he get his gas? And then obviously there's things that happened 120 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:09,959 in between. But I just really liked how it started to It's just like 121 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,879 right in the middle of like an action sequence, it's the car chases. 122 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:16,199 I thought the car chasers were phenomenal in the first movie, and here again 123 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,879 like they just kind of up the ante. So I thought all that looked 124 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,600 really good, all the practical effects looked really good. Like there's just a 125 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,800 lot of zany crazy characters. Now I'm definitely seeing that it's like a reoccurring 126 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:33,080 thing throughout these movies. Obviously Fury Road has their own assortment of characters like 127 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,279 that. But yeah, I really quite enjoyed this one. I thought I 128 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:43,120 thought the action was top tier and I like that for the most part, 129 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,200 Like mel Gibson was kind of just a silent proteste, Like he definitely has 130 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:48,799 lines and everything, and it interacts with people, but there's a lot of 131 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:54,320 portions when he's really not saying anything. He's just kind of silently moving forward 132 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,320 throughout the movie and we're just there to watch him go on that adventure. 133 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,120 And it's really I thought that was a call for you in the first movie 134 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,080 because we talked about how like he's barely like he's just kind of like a 135 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,600 ghost. I think it was more of a con there because it's like an 136 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:11,879 origin for the character, and they throw in like the wife and the daughter 137 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:15,799 obviously, and he has like his co workers that like it seems like he 138 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,039 should be like interacting with those characters a lot more and just feeling us in 139 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,240 on, like I don't know, just just something to talk about with those 140 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,759 characters. But the fact that it's it's just him the dog and this crazy 141 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,720 gyrocopter pilot guy that is kind of just his prisoner, so I'm okay with 142 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,639 him not talking to him there. And it's also just knowing of like what 143 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,759 Max has gone through, like he lost his wife, lost his his child. 144 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,399 I mean, the narrator kind of recaps us at the start of this 145 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,240 film there, and it just it seems like a guy that he doesn't necessarily 146 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,919 have to say much anymore. I don't think I think he can really. 147 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:52,559 Oh my god, I forgot that she lived. Yeah, I still doubt 148 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,440 she lived. I think she lived like throughout the night and then they called 149 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:01,480 in the warning because I don't know she died instantly the next day. Yeah, 150 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:07,879 it's pretty still gruesome in like injuries and stuff. So yeah, but 151 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,000 yeah, I don't know. I just think maybe more the silent trait that 152 00:10:11,039 --> 00:10:15,759 he had fits more in this movie for whatever reason. But yeah, it 153 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,200 was. It was fun doing this one, for sure. I'm just trying 154 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,559 to look at the years in between Savan Matter only two years. It's funny 155 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,960 because that's where like, you know, say whatever you want, because of 156 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,639 course there's times for mel Gibson's polishes or whatnot. But still like maybe not 157 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,799 the greatest person. So I'm talking just strictly acting and stuff. I just 158 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:35,720 feel like even in the two years, you can see like what a better 159 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:37,919 actor he's become. And I'm making this point where Kirkhlon's gone, oh no, 160 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,960 he's just down there. I think he's That's where I am agreeance where 161 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,759 he is almost completely signed again, I haven't the trivia. He only has 162 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:52,559 sixteen lines and two of the good thing was that, And he only has 163 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,559 sixteen lines and two of the lines are I'm just here for the gas. 164 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,200 So he really just has like fifteen. So I think it's just because with 165 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,360 the first movie, he's just playing like a blank slate, like this is 166 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:07,200 the guy before all the terrible shit happens soon, right, and now this 167 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:11,559 is the guy has like a chip on his shoulder, is a very like 168 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,759 small descriptor of what he actually is going on, right, but he just 169 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,919 what in the first one, where he just feels like this could be anybody, 170 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,279 This feels like, okay, this is some Mel Gibson, Mad Max 171 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,000 or going on right here. This feels like, okay, there's certain choices, 172 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:28,679 there's certain looks, there's certain moments. So I think that helps it 173 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,600 a lot where you're just more engaged with this character. And I love that 174 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:35,879 it sets him up very much as like a bat in the dark Knight, 175 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:39,000 where he's the road warrior. Right, you maybe see once and that's about 176 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,000 it. He's there. He disappears. Like my favorite shot. There's lots 177 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,039 of cool shots, but I think my favorite shot of the movie is that 178 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,000 very last shot where they're driving away from him and it's like becoming tonight and 179 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,200 it's smoking. He just kind of goes away and I like it. It's 180 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,879 like kind of an urban myth, right, And that's where it kind of 181 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,519 fits with Fury Road, where same thing, like he helps those people and 182 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:03,399 then he's out of there. Even though some people have that in Fury Role, 183 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:09,080 that's not Max and the kid is Tom Hardy's character. It's a whole 184 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,519 big theory about the movie. Yeah, the Faral Kid is actually Tom Hardy 185 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,919 in the in the Fury Road, I don't know if I subscribed that. 186 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:20,000 Yeah. I think as people say, like because Tom Hardy and like Mel 187 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:24,440 Gibson play him differently, Like I feel like this is like very they're all 188 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:28,279 very different versions. The first one's just like the do gooder cop, and 189 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:31,039 then two and three of them very much like the Badass, and then Tom 190 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:33,600 Hardy's version, which she'll get to is very just like kind of aloof almost 191 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,120 like Jack sparrow Ish at times. That's why I've seen people be like, 192 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,440 oh, this is a different guy. This as a kid. But so 193 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,360 overall, as I've said before, I've watched Fury Road a bunch of times, 194 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,559 but these ones are all kind of mixed between each other, even though 195 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,679 I think I remember one of the most because that was the first and I 196 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,720 think I probably see that the most times. So I think I I do 197 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,519 enjoy the movie, and I think again, I really enjoyed just from the 198 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:01,360 filmmaking aspect. I have some trivia, but this is one of these that 199 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,360 I'll say, to go out of your way and look at the Wikipedia, 200 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:05,639 or I'm to be the amount of crazy shit they are doing in this movie. 201 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,080 Again, man, there's stuff that they they would not be able to 202 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,840 get away with today at all, like you would. People's jobs would be 203 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:15,919 over. George Millersjo'll be over. But just like they're all for it and 204 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,679 not like bad stuff. It's just like, yeah, we're gonna take this 205 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,320 really high risk stuff. Like there's a fact that I have here where they 206 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,279 told the stunt guy not to eat the whole day because they thought the crash 207 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,320 was gonna go so bad he'd likely need surgery, so they want him to 208 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,440 make sure he didn't eat twelve hours before. That's the fucking that's the fucking 209 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,279 movie that we're gonna where you'll likely get really hurt, so don't eat. 210 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,679 That's where it's like, I'm impressed, but I'm also aware the same time 211 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,360 where we go, oh man, CGI sucks. I'll take CGI any day 212 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:41,360 over. I'm happy people didn't dine went up, but like that' shit you 213 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,799 can't be doing anymore. So I it's just like the first one they got 214 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,679 the they got the balls and hood spuff. So I appreciate from a filmmaking 215 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,039 standpoint, the budget still feels smaller, still feels like that grindhouse gorilla filmmaking, 216 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,759 but I just don't I was kind of waiting because it's been a while 217 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:58,559 since I so I was like, oh am, I gonna like maybe love 218 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,279 this movie, see what people are talking about, and I get why people 219 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,360 would love this movie. But I guess I'm not there yet. I don't 220 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,840 remember three good enough, so I feel like in the future Mad Max's I 221 00:14:07,919 --> 00:14:11,759 might watch these again. But I feel like I'm still it's not almost serious 222 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:13,639 where all I gotta watch all four. It's like I think I'll still happily 223 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,320 just put on Fury Road a bunch and watch that. So I'm still not 224 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,720 at the point where I absolutely love this movie. I liked this more than 225 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:24,360 the first one, because I feel the first one's like twenty or seventy five 226 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:28,960 percent melodrama and then twenty five percent of those like wacky characters eyebulging, and 227 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,279 I like that sort of thing. This is the flip where it's seventy five 228 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:37,879 percent of the crazy kooky men in leather feathers, random stuff going on, 229 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,679 a couple having sex and middle of the desert and a blanket comes up and 230 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:43,080 you're just seeing titties everywhere and stuff where then it still is like in the 231 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,440 first fifty minutes, there's still like rape going on, right, so there's 232 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,799 still like dark things happening, which I think there's like a way to find 233 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:54,559 a bounce because it's funny because I think in maybe Maybe Fury Road is the 234 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:56,679 bounce, which we'll get into because I feel like it's almost too zany for 235 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,960 me where I do enjoy it, but it gets a little grading. But 236 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,080 I think the hour and half runtime is perfect because I actually think there's some 237 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,080 of these like, oh, it should be longer. I think it's like 238 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,320 the perfect amount because they already, man, how many times they go back 239 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,879 and forth that fucking just camp like it's much like the fear of road. 240 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:15,240 Everyone complains, will drive one way, they drive the other way, But 241 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:18,080 I just laugh how many times back to Okay, you'll never see me again? 242 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,559 Ten minutes later, Oh, welcome back, Max. Then it's like, 243 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,399 oh, you never see me again, and then he gets knocked out 244 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,879 a plane fix him up. Oh well, we don't need your help now, 245 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:28,039 Max. And it's the reason is I'm throwing all the trivia now. 246 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,159 But they use that location because that's what they deemed was gonna be less likely 247 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,519 to get rain, so they shot there as much as possible that area so 248 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:39,679 it didn't fuck out with They're set. So that's why I again, that's 249 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:43,480 why I appreciate the filmmaking behind this man. They really put their effort into 250 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:46,039 it. So I think it's one of these ones that fall into I appreciate 251 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,440 it. I do in like it, but I'm not dying to watch this 252 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,440 again, like I am like a feury row and thundered on. Like I 253 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,159 said, it's been a while, I can't comment on it. So yeah, 254 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,320 that's where I am where I like it, But I just don't think 255 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,759 I love the Mad Max movies like I was maybe not expecting to, but 256 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,279 kind of hoping to have this retrol because I hadn't returned to them in a 257 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,840 while. But overall, still a good time. And I definitely prefer this 258 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:10,360 to the first one, just because it's just I don't know the first one. 259 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,080 I feel like we said that the last time could be just like a 260 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,799 short film or half an hour, like here's the origin. There you go. 261 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,519 And I feel like they do a good job of they show origin, 262 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:21,879 they talk about it, but you still could watch this kind of by itself. 263 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:25,480 With this, it almost feels like a very anthology like Methods type of 264 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,360 story where it's just a riot of the night you bumped into him and he 265 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:30,600 helped out, then he went on his way, right because in the camp 266 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:33,440 the narrators is like and we never saw him ever again, So it's like 267 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,080 kind of works that way. So and you prefer this even like if you 268 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,200 if you thought you had to see the first movie, Like, I think 269 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,039 it does a good enough job at recapping all the main points. In the 270 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:47,440 first couple of minutes of this movie. Kin Woman just fucking plowed in the 271 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,600 first few minutes. Oh it's Max Like everything gone bad. So we're gonna 272 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:56,320 We're gonna start filming for the next GV movie, and you're gonna be like, 273 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:57,720 yeah, guys, don't eat for twelve hours before, and then I'm 274 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,080 gonna be really worried, especially depending on what to his stunts were doing there. 275 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:06,519 Yeah. Well, it's just so funny because when we're shooting some for 276 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:10,279 the third one recently with Connor, there was a situation where we were like, 277 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:12,319 I just don't think we can falls off safely, so we rewrote it, 278 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,319 and but these guys were like, Nah, They're let's just fucking do 279 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,920 it, you know. But uh, which I like me, I kind 280 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,279 of get because there's there's stuff that we did in a dreadachrom I feel like 281 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:26,680 where I wouldn't ask Connor because he's like someone helping us up. And I'm 282 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,240 like, yeah, I guess I'll roll down this hill with all the rocks 283 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,319 like we all did. We all went down a start of hills, So 284 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,079 yeah, there's the rock behind me. No, I know, you well, 285 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:41,680 don't roll that way. So yeah, we meet Max. He's just 286 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:42,960 kind of, you know, doing his thing on the road. He's looking 287 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:48,519 for fuel, particularly starting to get low. The main resource, it seems 288 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:52,440 in this post to podcast, very much just fuel for their vehicles, and 289 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,559 we've definitely shifted from in the First World. We talked about how it's like 290 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,839 it's the early stage of the apocalypse. It's like that early COVID where it's 291 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 okay, things are changing bad, but it's not fully bad. We're this 292 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,240 there's not like a bunch of buildings or towns, like there's just little palks 293 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:08,319 appeople. But it feels very much like not as much as what you get 294 00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:11,039 in for your road. It's because there's not as much desert, but there's 295 00:18:11,079 --> 00:18:15,680 desert with some grass. It feels much more okay, things have gone bad, 296 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,200 and it's just kind of you're just trying to find anywhere in the wild 297 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,920 to lock down and find a situation. And that's what happens where Max goes 298 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,160 through a few things where he meets this group of people who are kind of 299 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:33,039 being pushed out by a bigger organization of bikers and road or roasters whatever you 300 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:37,240 would call them drivers, I guess. And then we also meet U Tato's 301 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,119 favorite helicopter dude as well, kind of in the first act, so kind 302 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,559 of just we meet villains, heroes, side characters. So, yeah, 303 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:48,400 what are you guys thinking about? Kind of the opening of just starting and 304 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:51,799 not mean open seem just maybe acting one overall, just meeting all the players, 305 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,440 seeing where Max is. Like we said, he's much more grizzled, 306 00:18:53,519 --> 00:19:00,359 costs a dog, all that good jazz. Yeah, we're gonna right to 307 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,440 the second act. Yea, let's move along, you know. I mean 308 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:07,359 I already mentioned that I quite like the opening of this movie, and just 309 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,799 for the first act in general, I liked how it mix is in just 310 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,880 the meeting of certain characters, as well as having some action in there. 311 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,880 You get a little bit more of just an insight into this harder version of 312 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,920 Max, where he feels like he has a lot less his remorse the right 313 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,079 word or sympathy for like other people. Like it's mostly just he wants his 314 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:37,240 goal. Like even when he helps out Buddy and any well, he doesn't 315 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,920 really help him out, but he goes to find that's where the lady was 316 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,480 crossbowt to the face after the rape scene, and then he's all like bleeding 317 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:49,400 out and then he's like, oh, thank god you came to save me. 318 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,799 He's like, I just need fuel, Like don't get your hopes up, 319 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:53,880 like I'll trade you for fuel. And that's kind of it, so 320 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,960 you just get a quick insight into kind of this version of Max and how 321 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,039 he is a lot more hard and grizzled. So overall I thought I thought 322 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,559 the first act was was good. It just that just showing us the new, 323 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,680 the new chess pieces at play, like they like the new the new 324 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,359 movie pieces, because it really does show everyone that's going to be involved in 325 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,400 this story in that first act and definitely a good setup for that. Yeah, 326 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,759 and just the environment and just how much fuel, like we talk about 327 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:26,240 just fuels very important around here, you know, mm hmm. Yeah. 328 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:30,599 I thought just the idea was cool to have this probably one of the last 329 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:34,759 oil refinery places just pumping this this gasoline out of the ground and just they 330 00:20:34,759 --> 00:20:37,920 want to get it out of there. I think that was a cool concept. 331 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,920 And I think that the fact that they were lacking the means to pull 332 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,240 this this trailer tank out of there with their fuel. I just I like 333 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:48,720 the whole concept of it. I think it's cool, and just Max just 334 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:52,599 thinking of a way to get in and find his in with these people and 335 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,440 to get his his oil tanks full and then carry on his way. And 336 00:20:56,519 --> 00:21:02,960 so with the introduction of this pie character who's just so quirky and like, 337 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,519 you're quick, but I got the brains. He's just super batshit wild at 338 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:11,720 the start, and then it just starts to transition into he's actually kind of 339 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:17,759 like an okayish guy and like he's just absolutely like god mode. He can't 340 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:19,720 be destroyed. He's got his fucking helicopter, and he leaves his helicopter, 341 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:25,000 but his snakes take the bad guys out. Like it's just there's some kooky 342 00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:27,200 shit that this guy's on. And I really really liked his character. My 343 00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:32,519 only flaw with him though, is the whole time overnight they should have been 344 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:37,119 giving him fire like gasoling grenades, and he should have just been dumping them 345 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,000 on them when they're sleeping overnight. It's just parked like the bad guys outside. 346 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:45,519 He could have been flying and just dousing them or like pouring gasoline or 347 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:47,640 whatnot, Like he could have been sucking them up good, I guess, 348 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,559 but I feel like you're gonna hear the plane, right, so I don't 349 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,559 think. Also, like how do you fly those at night? You know, 350 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:56,960 like a lot of times with like a helicopter flying at night, you 351 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,960 have instruments to kind of show you like your altitude and whatnot to start lighting 352 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,039 up that. I think when you start lighting up like fire and whatnot, 353 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,039 I think you could visually see it. But he did have a little dash 354 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,680 display. You could see you had some little gizze okay, gadgets on thet 355 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:15,200 Yeah. Yeah, just a quirky character who had real shit go at it 356 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,000 at first because he was Max's prisoner. And then that just turned around when 357 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:23,599 he comes in and he lands inside the the bass after and he's like eyeing 358 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,400 up the girl and he just wants to like sneak the girl out of there. 359 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,880 But we'll tell you about that later. Yeah, it's very much like 360 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,279 a Stockholm syndrome relationship because Max finds him and just kind of makes him his 361 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:40,559 bitch for at least half the movie, and then there's other then like just 362 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,359 throughout he'll be escaped, gone, and then Max will just come across him, 363 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,839 so very just like just dragging this fucking log behind him. Yeah. 364 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,839 I feel like it still probably happens a day, But I feel like that's 365 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:57,759 a classic eighties, nineties and early two thousands trope of big strong character gets 366 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:02,920 this piece of shit who a little questionable. But maybe you know has been 367 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:04,559 belt out the wrong cars, and yeah, he's a fun funny enough, 368 00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:08,720 kooky enough character. You know, they give him these disgusting teeth, which 369 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,720 every time he just discuss this dude has a big smile. So I think 370 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,039 it was actually a great choice because every time his smiles just like just rot 371 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,880 right there. Right. But I think that's a good way to establish it 372 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,480 because even Max doesn't look good, but they're kind of making other not that 373 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:26,480 he's a hero, but other characters that do end up becoming good or are 374 00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:30,680 good, they also look maybe not fucking leather and you know, feathers and 375 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:33,240 whatnot, but they're not. It's not like, oh, we're all pristine 376 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,319 and clean, and it's like everybody just looks like shit. Here. You 377 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:38,880 can't really judge the you know, if you're comparing Max to this fucking pilot 378 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:45,279 guy, he's looking like, yeah, I agree, Max is definitely better. 379 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,160 But even the people that they can't, like look at when we meet 380 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,200 the pharaoh kid, right, like, he looks like a fucking disaster, 381 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,119 Like who's taking care of this kid? Right? So I do like that 382 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,359 everybody because in the first movie, it's you have because it's before the apocalyas, 383 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,039 but you have the cops and then just people in regular clothes. But 384 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,519 then our bad guys are very comic bookie like characters. Right where this is 385 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,880 everybody has the same aesthetic because the world has changed. So I do appreciate 386 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,759 that. And uh yeah, it also seems like because the world is just 387 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:17,079 getting more wild, like there's not really a place for those well grown people 388 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,279 like you. You adapt and get crazy or you don't survive, because like 389 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:23,640 I'm sure those those individuals that were a lot more civilized probably were some of 390 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:29,480 the first to go by the marauders that were going around football pads is a 391 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:33,880 very common in this movie. Yeah, I'm not wearing occupads. I'm not 392 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,559 wearing football pads. And then so what happens is they, you know, 393 00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:41,519 he comes up across these characters and they make a deal where hey, if 394 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,839 you help us out get this gasoline, you know. Uh, because I 395 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,359 guess, well, I guess we should just talk about the villains first, 396 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,119 because that's kind of an inciting incident where there's Max and where we talk about 397 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,640 their establishing the world. He gets interlinked with this I can't remember, does 398 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,720 this compound even have like a name where there are this village or whatnot. 399 00:24:56,319 --> 00:25:02,000 I can, yeah, just say whatever this village is. So they are 400 00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,519 giving this ultimatum and they're given, hey, you gotta leave. I think 401 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:07,640 it's you know, is it a day or two days whatever? They give 402 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,559 them some sort of timeline where you gotta get at here. We want oil, 403 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:15,480 want all this stuff, but we're gonna let you live. So I 404 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,839 the villains in this are interesting because you still have a lot of those tongue 405 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,200 wagon you know who hoot and hollering, just disgusting guys like they established early 406 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,119 on right, Like they rape a person, they try to kill the person, 407 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,480 they kill that person they rape, like they're all doing scummy, terrible 408 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:34,359 things. Again, I do, what the hell's the Jason voorh he's looking 409 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:40,960 motherfucker? What's his humongous? I do quite like him in the sense that 410 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,480 I still think there's like stuff left off. If I guess I didn't need 411 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,480 the movie to be long, because I think it is a perfect case. 412 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,720 But I think if you were to tell me, hey, if there has 413 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:52,920 to be something that you could make longer, what would it be? And 414 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,559 it would be humongous because I enjoy that he looks like he should be the 415 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:02,160 worst, and he's fucking jazz. He's out there with really no clothes on 416 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,279 hands, this fucking hockey mask on. He's very intimidating, but he doesn't 417 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,759 and if he does, yel of course, But he's not like the first 418 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:12,039 movie, right with that guy, like you can tell right away you can't 419 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,640 negotiate with him. But this guy, he's given them options. Now it's 420 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,519 a very one side negotiation of just say, hey, we're gonna come up 421 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,240 and fuck your shit. But I did like that. It wasn't just because 422 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,119 they could have just that day stormed the thing and started to recavoc right, 423 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,880 So I like that for some reason, whatever it is, this villain has 424 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,880 some sort of code of ethics. But the problem is, I think we 425 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,519 don't dive too much more in that. So there's interesting aspects laid down upon 426 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:40,319 it, but I'd like a little bit more. I like the voice choice 427 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,960 with it. I'm not sure if that's a voice. I didn't look into 428 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,640 it if it's the actual actor's voice or a different voice, because it doesn't 429 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:51,440 feel like it fits exactly. But I like the look in the character's vibe 430 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,119 because they shouldn't go together and they do so and even just I don't know, 431 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,559 just some sort of conversation. But that's not a big thing because I 432 00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,559 don't think even more and Joe that doesn't have like Mad maxims sit down at 433 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,559 him and be like, hey, like let's talk about oil and why you 434 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:07,039 want it. But he was an intriguing villain. Nonetheless, I think I 435 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:11,839 prefer him more to the first one when Himongus was there giving them the ultimatum. 436 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:18,160 That wasn't the first time they made a move on this like refinery base 437 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:22,400 strait because Mad Max pops over the hill and sees them trying to attack it. 438 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,920 And this is where I kind of got confused, because I thought that 439 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,480 they actually owned this base. I didn't know that they were trying to attack 440 00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,680 it. And so yeah, yeah, I thought when they drove off and 441 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,839 left and then they were chasing the other people and whatnot, thought like, 442 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,039 okay, maybe like is someone stealing the gas from them and they were getting 443 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,720 away, like then they're leaving the base like available, and now I don't 444 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:47,279 know, I just got it confused. I was so surprised that he was 445 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:52,319 taking this man that these marauders just like murdered essentially like to the Marauder Base 446 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,799 because I was with you, I thought it was the Marauder Base. I'm 447 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:57,680 like, what the fuck is his plan here? Like this makes no sense? 448 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,759 And then yeah, you see other people that are dressed in the same 449 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,359 guard It's like, Okay, I see what's going on now. But definitely, 450 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:11,000 uh, I understand the confusion in that moment. They definitely hated on 451 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,640 him at first though, I mean, he was the enemy. They thought 452 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,640 like, oh, what is this like trading human business? Trading humans or 453 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,519 whatever? Who thought he was though? The people dressed all in like the 454 00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:23,680 white gear and everything. They thought Matt Max was, Yeah, the hooligans. 455 00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,519 Right, Well, he's dressed like a leather like in leathers, right. 456 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,400 He definitely would have fit the card he could have. Yeah, And 457 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,039 I think also he doesn't have like the spandex going on or like the cutout, 458 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,640 but he looks very much like the villain's in the first movie to me, 459 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,039 where it's like they're all leather bikers, right, and that's where he 460 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,960 is. And I do like that aspect, and he's not a villain per 461 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,039 se, But at that point he's also not with them, like he would 462 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:48,759 be an antagonist to them because he's just trying to get to and from and 463 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,759 obviously he saves it. And that's the whole thing of Max, right, 464 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,000 Like he's trying to stay out of it, but he can't. He saves 465 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:56,839 one person and then try to save a village. And then even when they 466 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,680 say we don't want your help at all, your scum band, just please 467 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,279 leave, He's like, oh, you need someone to draw that tanker. 468 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,440 Like he's just like okay, he makes the move, But uh, what 469 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:11,799 do you think about the actual villains? Though not Max uh humongous. I 470 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,559 liked him actually he was. He was interesting and yeah, he wasn't just 471 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:21,200 total psychotic crazy. He had this sense of reason to him. Whether or 472 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,279 not you believe it or not, it remains to be seen, but there 473 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:27,799 was just there's something there. And I liked him as a villain and his 474 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,920 like henchman guy that had the ass list chaps. He was just such a 475 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:37,599 ray character because like, yeah, he was just I mean, Boomerang kids 476 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,160 just fucking annihilated his his love interest. I guess he had a take and 477 00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:45,720 chain like totally just fucking took him out. And I think the guy trying 478 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,599 to jump his hands up and got his finger sliced off, which is fucking 479 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:55,240 funny. But yeah, this the this guy, he got upset about the 480 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,960 one that he lost, and so Hormongous just like chokes him out and he's 481 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,920 like it's okay, well at the revenge, but like chokes him out it 482 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,920 and tells the goons to like take them away, chain them up, and 483 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:11,440 like later on when they're chasing Max down the the highway and he's got like 484 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,200 Mungus has this guy chained up on the front of his vehicle and then like 485 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,119 they cut the chains off of him basically like yeah, your your free, 486 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,960 going like fuck them up. It's just just weird, very very weird. 487 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,720 But we'd battle tactics, very weird weird battle taxics for though, right if 488 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:33,279 you're fighting Humongous like unpredictable to say the least. A lot of the stuff 489 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,680 with the villains in here really did remind me of Mad Max Fury Road again, 490 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,799 Yeah, just with the truck, but just the way the villains are 491 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,240 coming after them and whatnot. And yeah, there's a lot that was just 492 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:52,160 making me think think of that. Yeah, I thought I thought Humongous was 493 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,160 a humongous lad. He was fucking shredded, and I really like the look 494 00:30:56,319 --> 00:31:02,359 of like you have this just like Gladiator looking motherfucker with his with his physique, 495 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,039 like he looked tall. And then just whenever you have a character that 496 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,200 that like has a mask and then you can kind of see it's very similar 497 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,559 to actually Jason Vorhe's in that sense where like the hockey mask just just hides 498 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,799 this something behind it and it makes the individual look not human like, like 499 00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,880 it's like a different entity. And definitely had that same effect because you see 500 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,680 like the back of his head multiple times and it just looks like burnt or 501 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,400 something. He's got like the little random baby gollum hairs popping up. But 502 00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,519 like he talks like a like a well read individual. So it's just like 503 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,400 an interesting balance there where if you don't see him, you would think that 504 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,119 he is just this like regular Joe, but when you do see him, 505 00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:48,200 it's like a fear factor and definitely imposing and massive, and Garner's respect from 506 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,920 his his lack. He's there, So I I liked him as the main 507 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,279 villain. But yeah, and then for the other characters, I thought they 508 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,160 were I thought they were good enough for for the troops of the Human yes, 509 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:05,319 yeah, what do you guys read over pretty quick? Which one? 510 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,119 Yeah, he has a very truck they have. That's the guy in the 511 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:13,319 first movie too, had kind of a pitiful end, right. Yeah, 512 00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,880 it's kind of interesting that they don't because even I'm trying to think, I 513 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,759 feel like with the More and three, I figured, at least so do 514 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:22,319 I take it there? And even three, I feel like moren Joe gets 515 00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:28,200 like a bigger send off. But it's funny because characters fight in these movies. 516 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,240 It's not like John Wick, but like they do fight. They're on 517 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,039 the ground, they getting little scuffles. But at least this one and the 518 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,759 next one, like sorry, the last one, this one, And I 519 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:38,640 think the way they kill more and Joe, if I'm recalling, is cool. 520 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,759 But it's like with a car and they pull a chain, like they 521 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:45,599 don't ever have Mad like Mad Max on the ground fighting a person, right, 522 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,160 And I get it right because it's like they're paying Like when you see 523 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,000 a Mad Max movie, you want the violence, the car, the car 524 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:57,079 damage, everything like that. I just wish the villain's got it was more 525 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,920 of a monoling model where they just kind of like pop up and Max hits 526 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,440 him and it's over for him. You know. I wish it was like, 527 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,279 Okay, down the road they have a car. I got a car, 528 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,200 let's go. I almost would prefer that the villain is on the hood 529 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,480 fighting Max and then something happens, right, Yeah, I agree with you. 530 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:20,400 One more thing with Jumongos too, I forgot is he just whips out 531 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,920 that fucking revolver with that that scope on there, and I'm just thinking, 532 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,279 man, that's that's definitely a load out building and call of duty, but 533 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,519 just the accuracy that he has with that fucking thing is just crazy. Oh 534 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:36,319 yeah, you remind me a joke. I liked, what the card? 535 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,559 What the hell? What the hell is the helicopter guy's actual name? I 536 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,960 might be here pull it up, but either way, that was a good 537 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,799 joke. When they're at the beginning when they are seeing everything go down and 538 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:49,440 Max has just the monocas and he has like the massive thing, and Max 539 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,799 just like just forces a trade, like doesn't even ask him, just like 540 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,680 yeah, no, come here, and just like it's almost like you're not 541 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,599 good enough to have. It's like some player that is like terrible in the 542 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,839 game, but they have like a pay to way in Max, like, 543 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,519 no, that that should be for you. So a good little comedic moment 544 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,639 there. But remind me of that World's End when Barbosa has his and then 545 00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:15,679 Jack Sparrow has very much. So yeah, yeah, Humongous, Harley Nuye, 546 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,920 you know got taken out and uh oh that's what I'm saying that we 547 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,880 went off track in the trio. So I wanted to get your opinion on 548 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,000 this. Originally, Humongous was supposed to be Max's partner. Jim Goose from 549 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:30,800 the first film production decided against this, but let a few hints such as 550 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,000 the horrible burns bound in Humongous goalie mask, his raiders used police vehicles, 551 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,280 and his own use of a similar weapon to the MFP standard side arm. 552 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,880 So I hadn't watched I've seen the TRIVI after so whenever I do watch this 553 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,320 movie again, I am gonna watch it with the what if. And I 554 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,440 actually would have even if, like I said, maybe add a little bit 555 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,159 more to the end. I don't I him being really jacked. That would 556 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,400 have been something because like Jim Goose was like a good looking guy, but 557 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,480 he wasn't like this massive. But I wouldn't have mind that it kind of 558 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,679 tracks with like the he's violent, but he has a certain way. Yeah, 559 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,719 there's lots of leaps and bounds you have to get to like why is 560 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,760 he running this biker gang? But that's like something it's lost now. But 561 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,000 I feel like, even if you want to who humongous, I feel like 562 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,800 Jim Goose being a villain that I got sucked up by the Savage Wasteland and 563 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,000 now he's on the other side, like one of the biker gangs. Like 564 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,280 I think there's actually a good story to telling. But I think at this 565 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,559 point they weren't trying to do that. They were just trying to, you 566 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:28,079 know, a basic story, hero saves a day car violence. You know, 567 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,199 absolutely, I think that would uh, I think that would call for 568 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,599 a lot more dialogue actually in that version of the movie, not so much 569 00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,239 like in the maybe the first two acts, but like especially in the third, 570 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,000 like if it is revealed near the end, and there's like a big 571 00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:50,320 emotional just just just a big mix of emotions for Max dealing with like he 572 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,159 mourned for this guy and now here he is being the antagonist of this next 573 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:58,320 story. There's a lot of juice there, right, Yeah, absolutely, 574 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,400 there's a lot of juice to just squeeze out of that. I think it's 575 00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:06,400 it's definitely a fun what if scenario, especially just as you laid out, 576 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,719 like the cop cars are are what the the individuals are writing and the burn 577 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,960 marks and all that stuff. But uh yeah, yeah, and then we 578 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,239 get to the fun well we kind of arekedalk about with the villain. But 579 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,760 yeah, this is where I found it funny. Where they make the deal. 580 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,920 He's mad at his word. They have seemed good enough for the I 581 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,519 can't remember the guy, but he's like the leader of the compound, the 582 00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:32,320 good leader, and he's getting Max's face. Give the them the you know, 583 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,159 classic k you know you could be a hero. You're avoiding. Why 584 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,079 you doing that? There's a good person you know who cares if you lost 585 00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,880 your family, but no, we've all lost people. This guy's already been 586 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,000 like injured, his leg is currently bleeding. Max decides to fucking still deck 587 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:49,480 him. So this poor guy, like, I feel so bad when he 588 00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:51,840 falls the ground, he's holding his leg and his face. It's like this 589 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,239 guy's having a tough day. But he goes and they demand a Max like 590 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,199 I'm mad here, and then which is funny because like, if Humongous and 591 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,800 his crew would have just left Max alone, they probably would have won their 592 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,360 other battle, you know, but they had to like take Max out and 593 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,880 then he's almost dead to rights. The helicopter guy comes down and saves them. 594 00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,239 But that's what I like, And that's where it was fine that that's 595 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,639 where you could feel the budget to me, were in a matter of ten 596 00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,880 minutes, we like came to from like almost three to four times of you 597 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,400 know, well, we don't need your help and whatnot. And Max is 598 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,719 looking really fucked up at the end of his eye and everything. But yeah, 599 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,880 I appreciate that, and it's kind of it again, it's simple storytelling. 600 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,719 Why are you gonna help us? Well, you know, he's having 601 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,000 a good guy mode and you need the help right your down people they've already 602 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,639 lost a couple of people throughout this movie. So and like I said, 603 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:40,360 other than the villain, I thought the finale, I thought, actually the 604 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,960 whole third act was good of Max getting cut off, him getting you know, 605 00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:46,920 flipped out. It almost was speaking of Jim Goose. Felt very similar 606 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,960 to Jim Goose when his car was flipped and they like had the oil and 607 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,199 stuff so it was almost like they were maybe intentionally trying to be like, 608 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,079 oh, look, this was gonna happen to him too. And then but 609 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,440 I think overall the third act is good, and I really like the scene 610 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,960 where they got the Faral kid and it's him Max, even though there's one 611 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,360 point where Max is they have him going down a hill and they're showing the 612 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,840 inside the car like rapidly shaking, and it's Tom Hardy holding a doll, 613 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,880 which is really funny. I'm not sure if he caught that, but so 614 00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,280 also the kid wasn't getting hurt, but I like that whole sequence of he's 615 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,960 trying to reach the bullet. It felt very much like the first Indiana Jones, 616 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,079 where I don't even know which one came first, because this is eighty 617 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,239 eight, right, this one is eighty one? Wait one, so this 618 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,559 Jones probably came later, absolutely right. I feel like it was the first 619 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,519 one. I thought it was late seventies. Let's find out nineteen eighty four, 620 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,239 so let's tevile doom. No no, no, no, I'm wrong. 621 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,039 Hang on, I get that wikipeda here eighty one and this was why 622 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:51,119 eighty one. It's it's literally the same year because it's just it reminded me 623 00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:53,719 of that when INDI's like back and forth in the cockpit with the driver and 624 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,159 they're fighting. It had that that feeling and there's trivia in there where the 625 00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:01,599 shot was hard to pull. But I guess I just like that sequence in 626 00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:07,559 movies when it's done well and shot well of driver versus man, obstacles on 627 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,719 the road, lots of good fun visual tricks. There's lots of wacky stuff 628 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,440 that I get because of the budget, but I don't enjoy the zoom ins 629 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,960 and then they like turn the speed times ten. I don't really enjoy that 630 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,559 too much. That kind of flights with my Brian a lit but a little 631 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,079 bit. But overall I enjoyed the third act in the climactic battles here, 632 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,679 No, I'm with you for sure, Like if I want to be nitpicky, 633 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,719 I feel like some of those things bother me minorly, but like overall, 634 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,480 I just always am so blown away. But like just how these scenes 635 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:43,400 look, knowing that like these were real, like real stun devils, real 636 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,159 cars, like real action going on, and it's just so fucking dangerous, 637 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,119 like what was going on? It is a miracle that nobody got seriously injured 638 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,159 or or killed, especially just knowing some of the trivia that you've been listening 639 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,760 off for us. So yeah, so watching it now, it's just like 640 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:06,159 man like the cinema cinema quality right here, like just no log trucks CGI 641 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,480 or anything like. It's it's all real high octane action and uh no, 642 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:15,599 definitely just for twelve hours too, you know it very much just makes it 643 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,239 feel I think, well, obviously more authentic, but also just a lot 644 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,719 more dangerous these scenes knowing that it like it is real things going on, 645 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,239 Like Taylor and I just reviewed Last Airbun Last airbend Or on Netflix and for 646 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,719 the most part, all like the CGI effects look good in there, but 647 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,880 there's still a lot of scenes when you can just tell that they're standing in 648 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,519 front of a green screen and it takes away that immersion. So the fact 649 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:42,880 that you don't have that anywhere around these movies is it boosts it for sure. 650 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,800 The thoughts on the third hand, oh yes, yes, you two 651 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:58,400 are correct or anything else? Great podcast, absolutely right. This is where 652 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,360 i feel like I'm gonna lot I lot this into the third act because I 653 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,320 feel like this is where Max kind of becomes a bit of an idiot where 654 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,079 he chooses just to take his gas and leave, and the moment he leaves, 655 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,719 they they're on him and they totally destroy his car. He gets fucked 656 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,679 up, he has to blow up his car, his dog gets killed. 657 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:17,119 This just totally turns to shit for him. And I don't know why he 658 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,119 thought that this was a good idea at all. Maybe he thought he had 659 00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:23,679 the NOS and he could use it to his advantage. But their piece of 660 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,559 shit wagon that they had also had NOS, so that did not work. 661 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,440 I think he just didn't think they're gonna follow him. I think they he 662 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:36,559 just thought they were so focused. I ge't like the main prize in his 663 00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:38,360 mind would have been the refinery, right, so he leaves that away. 664 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,159 Yeah that's what I thought, especially because it's like him slinking throughout the night. 665 00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,239 So maybe he could have left a little later so I could get with 666 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,119 you on that one. But I still thought that I didn't think they're gonna 667 00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,280 go after him. But I guess they had the intention just to kill Hi 668 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,960 when they were pissed off. But I thought they wouldn't leave the position so 669 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,199 they could give up anything, but they didn't. Well, I think this 670 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,239 is the fact too. He just he killed a bunch of people. He 671 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:07,199 smashed that got the truck in there, so obviously they're super mad at him. 672 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,119 So I don't know, Yeah, he just marked himself for death. 673 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,599 Yeah, just a bold, bold play. But all in all, I 674 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,199 think it was the third act though it's it was It was exciting, and 675 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,639 I liked how it had that story twist where the tanker was not actually full 676 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,159 of gasoline, and it kind of makes sense retroactively why their old leader, 677 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,440 even though he was injured while he wanted to take on that that task of 678 00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,599 driving it and wasn't key on really letting Max do it. But then you 679 00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,440 know, he's also at the same time, like you know what, fuck 680 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,800 you, Max, you left us you can drive this tanker. He's also 681 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,800 very banged up too. He's probably not in the best position to be very 682 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,719 banged up. Yeah, but then they for some reason, I let the 683 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,360 little boy go onto the tankers, like they just he's able to be you 684 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,239 know, he did his TV he took their guys figures and killed one guy 685 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,880 with that boomerang. You know, we get him on the boomerang, so 686 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,000 and I just like I need they kind of just let the kid do whatever, 687 00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:00,599 because I take it as well he tried to get a kid off, 688 00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:04,760 right, and then he took a fucking like tried into the fucking head Yeah, 689 00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,559 I know, I mean just a group. Like in my head canon, 690 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,320 I don't even think that, oh the kid was there with the parents 691 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,280 and they die or something. I literally think they just like found this kid 692 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,039 along the way. Yeah, and the true Farrell like yeah, because they 693 00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:22,000 don't. Yeah, they never treat him as a kid. They never worry 694 00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:23,440 about and sometimes just feels like he's not even in the movie. I'm I'm 695 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,440 saying that a bad way. But he's just like slinking around the area, 696 00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:29,719 like there's not much like, oh, we got a factor this kid in 697 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,360 the plan, so basically gall him, right, Yeah, he's just always 698 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,440 lurking. Yeah, I enjoy that as butt. And he's the narrator too, 699 00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:38,719 right, So he becomes the leader of this group eventually, which is 700 00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:45,239 crazy to think about. He obviously becomes domesticated, I guess if he's speaking. 701 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,480 But yeah, that boomerang to that lead anybody, you know, you 702 00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:52,000 see that great symbol you know, for your trying to unify people, The 703 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,159 boomerang, like I would rally behind that banner the boomerang? Is that what 704 00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:59,400 you picked? Boomerang? I don't know if I would pick it, but 705 00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:02,440 I would rally behind it if if I don't have a leader to follow. 706 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,679 If I see a flag with boomerang, you're in the post apocalyptic like like 707 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,719 this world, and then this kid lifts up his boomerang, you're gonna stand 708 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,119 if it's bloody and I just saw him chop like a whole guy's hand off 709 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,239 and murder someone with it. Hell, yeah, I'm following this. You're 710 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,639 going with? Now? Would you fall him? Or would you fall me? 711 00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:27,679 If I had like a real life replica of Aragorn's sword? Oh you 712 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,960 every every day of the week. Yeah, I kill you. It's got 713 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,960 an our seal for this, A big deal, just reforged. Now what 714 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,079 would you follow me? If it was the unreforced version. It can still 715 00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:43,400 do some damage, but it's not. It's a good symbol, absolutely shop 716 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,199 Yeah, no more than a broken at him. I'll give you some of 717 00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,159 the pieces. We'll build it again eventually. That's why Maxine's that fuel. 718 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:55,199 Condor has no king, condor needs no king. What about you, Taylor 719 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,679 here, you're the paral kid, you're growing up? What's what's your symbol 720 00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:01,039 of Kirklands boomerang? Am. I don't know why you're give me boomerang. 721 00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:05,400 I'm just saying that. I was saying. If the feral kid had the 722 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,679 boomerang, and I was in this world and I had no other place to 723 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,360 go, I would rally behind that guy. Let you ask, oh you 724 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,039 use Hell, yeah, you're like, I didn't hear that part. I 725 00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:19,679 wouldn't use the boomerang. I don't think I've ever used one. Probably you 726 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,559 got to go to like what would be your your weapon? You know what? 727 00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:30,920 In this day and age? A man though this day and age, 728 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,079 I want something like ignited on fire, and I feel like flamethrower. Well, 729 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,679 no flamethrowers, Hollywood. I mean, I think you're on the right 730 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,239 track with the sword. I'd probably go with like a catana, but have 731 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,679 it like soaked in gasoline all the time we're working at the refinery and just 732 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,039 light it on fire. I feel like that's not good, as the whole 733 00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:53,960 world runs on gasoline, so you're kind of rate wasting it. You're constantly 734 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,280 going to be dripping gasoline in the desert from that sort well, I would 735 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,239 only you know, this is when I one on scout duty at the refinery. 736 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,039 So they're like Tato's out there scouting. He has his sword lathered in 737 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:12,599 oil rdy to fight. At any moment, it just pours all over himself. 738 00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:15,800 So he like goes to ignite. Just fucking lights up. What happened 739 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,119 in the movie, right, the guy was lighting his little cocktail and the 740 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,920 fucking lights his hands on fire, and I mean weird because he gets people 741 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,800 killed. That vehicle was a fucking mess. He lit on fire. That 742 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,639 woman got on and I couldn't tell, like for a long time she was 743 00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:34,760 a liary because she gets shot and she's like there for a bit and then 744 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,840 she falls down. She's like laying some barbed wire and I swear they go 745 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,880 to shot where your eyes are closed and then it's opened some like is she 746 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,960 alive? And then the guy was trying to pull her body. I'm like, 747 00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:45,519 is she alive? Is she dead weight? I don't know, but 748 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,719 yeah, that you would not want to be in that vehicle if you're like, 749 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,400 hey, here's the bad Yeah, here's the ten vehicles, which when 750 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,480 you're picking not damn not the hand fire guy for sure, especially if you 751 00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:58,559 got back into your next mission, like he didn't you let your hands on 752 00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:00,119 fire. Yeah, fuck you, I'm not. I'm not getting your vehicle. 753 00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:02,679 You can go alone. He didn't get to go on any missions. 754 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,440 He went with the girl too. They pulled the girl down and he fucking 755 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,760 tumbled down with her and then they run over like brutal too. It's bad 756 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:16,760 planning, really bad roster right there in that vehicle. So yeah, anything 757 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:23,239 else notes wise or specifically a show before I do some trivia that the when 758 00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:28,360 faral boy was trying to get to the shotgun shell, I knew it was 759 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,519 coming, like it was just this. This scene was building up intensity and 760 00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:35,880 there is like the heartbeat sound effect, and then yeah, this that fucking 761 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,199 assless chaps guy just lunches over the front of the the uh the truck. 762 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,719 So there's that and another thing too. This is earlier on after he has 763 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:51,440 his accident with a car explodes and the helicopter guy comes to get him. 764 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,159 Maybe it was just the version I was watching, but I'm pretty sure this 765 00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:57,920 is just in the movie. But there's a weird filter effect. Yeah, 766 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,920 it's very like grainy slow motion like this story. And I was like man, 767 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,559 this hurts my eyes. What the fuck is going on his choice? 768 00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:07,960 Because Max his eye was fucked up seeing the whole time he's on the road. 769 00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:10,800 He's like, God, damn. I just found it funny that it's 770 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:19,480 like from his perspective, you just have fucking tief Sky coming in eaching down 771 00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,559 and he's got his giant smile like Travis was mentioning earlier with his gross teeth. 772 00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,559 Yeah, I was very sad with the dog. The dog died. 773 00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,440 I was not expecting that at all. I feel like a lot of times 774 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,719 in these like apocalyptic type movies, I just feel like those type of characters, 775 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,199 like a worthy companion, like an animal like that just has like major 776 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,679 plot armor, like they're just invincible. But they fucking did it. They 777 00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:46,599 marked them with the bon and arrow, and Max always gotta lose somebody, 778 00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:50,719 right, you gotta put them through some ship. Yeah, he didn't get 779 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,840 like a new companion though, right Like at the last movie he got the 780 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,480 dog and then here he's just kind of alone with his with the vehicle. 781 00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:00,159 Oh, he's just losing people. The next movie is gonna lose fucking helicopter. 782 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,880 Well, I guess they all left bike and they kind of like I 783 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,079 know, Pharaoh child sounds like he becomes the leader, but they also insinuate 784 00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,360 too, like the helicopter guy is the leader for a little bit, because 785 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:15,079 like we came in after yah. Yeah, Like I also thought, because 786 00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,159 I don't remember these movies, I thought he was fucking dead when that helicopter 787 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,199 crashed. It was like the way they shot it, just like bounce a 788 00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:24,760 little bit and just driving down the road. Yeah, he's like, all 789 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,440 completely fine. Yeah, I guess I take it. As long as it 790 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,880 doesn't explode, you're alive. You know. I'm very bold of Max to 791 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,079 just let the dog control this guy's fate. But well, I guess the 792 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:39,559 gun wasn't loaded. We didn't know that. We didn't know that. I 793 00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:43,719 mean, just so it's at the time, Yeah, I'm watching that, 794 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,159 I'm like, why can't Marco be trained that well, like fuck any little 795 00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:51,119 moment, and like he doesn't want this guy to die because he's the only 796 00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:53,440 one that knows where the refinery is, I guess amongst the two of them. 797 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,639 So in the moment, I'm just like, that's fucking bold. I 798 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,920 like how they showed like there's like a wild animal or something that they see 799 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,400 and then the guy like freaks out because normally, like a dog would just 800 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,840 react to that, but calm and cool, collected. And then speaking of 801 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,320 the ammunition too, I like how there is like an emphasis on just the 802 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:15,000 lack of ammunition in this world. Like it's not just they got fucking heavy 803 00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:17,119 duty megs and all their weapons and it's just like call of duty and every 804 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:21,679 battle. Like, I like how there is an emphasis that every bullet kind 805 00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:23,719 of matters, and uh like when he finds the shell, like he just 806 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,760 loads it with one because that's all he has, and a lot of people 807 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,400 are using bows and arrows, so that's pretty cool. So yeah, just 808 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,159 overall, I like the arsenal that people kind of use to their to their 809 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,000 arsenal. I don't know, no, I like it because it's just you 810 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,039 don't want to I think we've talked about that a little bit. In apes. 811 00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:47,039 You can check out those are out where there's some near the end where 812 00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:50,599 there's some battles, which we like. But then it's also like, Okay, 813 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,559 all these monkeys have guns and that's just almost a lot of big explosions 814 00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:55,800 and shooting, which can be good, like that's fun to see, but 815 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,440 you almost lose a little bit of it where this it's like each care if 816 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,639 they have a different attack or something. It feels that, Okay, everyone's 817 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,320 dangerous. But also it has to be not so much a personal kill, 818 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,920 but it has to be more confrontational. I think you get more scenes out 819 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,679 of that. So no, I agree, because if you just had a 820 00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:15,760 bunch of it would just be because that would be what would be. The 821 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,039 vehicles would beside each other and they would just be shooting each other, you 822 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:28,559 know, and then not as exciting. So definitely cool. Once twice Trivia 823 00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:32,199 Time already talked about Mel Gibson's lines. Max's dog was safe from being euthanized 824 00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:37,840 by the filmmakers. They were saved by filmers. Noted by the filmmakers. 825 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:45,320 The dog was saved from being euthanized by the filmmakers. I mean the filmmakers 826 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,519 are the one that saved them. Not that's wanted to be like no filmmakers. 827 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,440 One day before he was about to be put asleep, members of the 828 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,400 crew visit a shelter looking for a pet to cast for the film. He 829 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,840 was picked out from several other dogs due to picking him all up, rock 830 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,239 off the ground and playing a little toy. The crew members realized the dog 831 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,559 could have a real presence on the film and had potential to be trained. 832 00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:08,320 Then we end up being the only credit for the dog. The dog using 833 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,920 film A simply named dog was obtained. Yeah, local blah blah. He 834 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:16,800 was oh because he the sound of the eruptions upset or sorry, my god, 835 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:22,480 I'm butchering this because the sound of the engines upset him. In one 836 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,840 instant, he caused him to relieve himself in the car. He was fitted 837 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,679 with special ear plugs. After filming was complete, he was adopted by one 838 00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:35,079 of the camera operators. So that's good. They didn't tell the dog not 839 00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,480 to Yeah, you're not coming back to the next movie. Yeah, you 840 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,599 read the script. You die in this one. That's pretty crazy because I 841 00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,400 feel like most of the time, like I know, it's kind of a 842 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,840 lower budget film at the time, but just like usually there's like dog actors 843 00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,920 and maybe that's just like a modern thing because they are just so well trained, 844 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,880 and this this dog looked very well trained, obviously holding the gun in 845 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,960 that one scene and even just like obeying Max and Sir moments and just like 846 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,679 charging. Now, you did say that they trained him, but still as 847 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,320 impressive. Yeah, it still was not like a puppy. Like between the 848 00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,960 dog and between these accidents, I could have gone terrible and all this stuff. 849 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,639 George Miller making these movies had fucking horseshoes up his ass man like the 850 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:22,199 god on lawsuits. They found a fucking dog at a kill shelter and he's 851 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,599 like, this will do, and they trained it and it worked in the 852 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,920 movie. It's just like, what, Like that's not how it should work, 853 00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:30,920 Like you could get this dog mech all those dogs out learning shit like, 854 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,280 but it's like it's hitting marks and stuff. It's like it's just fine. 855 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,239 Like I said, like he must have made a deal the devil to 856 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,039 make these films. But one of the stunts in the film in which was 857 00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:44,679 the motorcycle riding Raiders, hits a car and flies off the bike. I'm 858 00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:45,960 not sure if you remember that one where he hits it and he like does 859 00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:51,480 like three or four like front flips. Let's seeing cart wheels into the air 860 00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:54,719 towards the camera was actually a genuine and nearly fatal accident. The stuntman was 861 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,079 just supposed to fly over the car without hitting it. He survived but his 862 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,840 leg was badly broken. The moment looks so dramatic. It was kept on 863 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,320 films. So that's why, as I talked about with ce giant stuff, 864 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,800 that's why that looks so good because that one I had read before. I 865 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,400 saw the it again and I saw the hit and when he does it was 866 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,880 like, oh Jesus Christ, it's like, yeah, it's not like he's 867 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,960 landing on a map. He wasn't supposed to be flipping like that. They's 868 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,639 just a wrong hit and he went fucking flying. So luckily, you know 869 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,960 whatever, just a broken dog, Like just you're on set, you just 870 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,280 see him doing three flips in front of yours like like hold it, hold 871 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,239 the shot, keep rolling, keep rolling okay, and you need another dog 872 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,320 screaming. Yeah, one of the factors. Yeah, I already talked about 873 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,559 the They planned around the rain and stuff, so it was a good thing. 874 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,360 Production was shut down for over a week at one point, so I 875 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:51,000 dealt that. According to cinematographer Dean slow Ceimer, slimer, I don't know 876 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,519 similar who knows. The camera rig used to get a medium close up of 877 00:54:54,599 --> 00:55:00,440 Max driving required him and the assistant cameraman to stand on a small platform mounted 878 00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:04,079 on the driver's seat on the side of the car. They found out during 879 00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:08,280 one sequences that they miss calculated the lift because whenever they went up or down 880 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,840 the hill, the platform would actually scrape the ground, setting out shower of 881 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,039 sparks. Initially alarming all involved, they just shrugged it off and kept shooting 882 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:21,679 about cutting. So they literally had a fucking like car. They built something 883 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,800 outside the car they're filming, and again with the horse shoes, they miss 884 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,599 calculated, so this was lower. So anytime they went up and down the 885 00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:31,599 hill and they just kept going. So again, imagine that first till you 886 00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:36,400 go down, this thing fucking breaks whatnot? Guy's fucking dead like could be 887 00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:38,400 like over, but they just like people being driven over in the movie were 888 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,480 actually some of the YEA, make sure you use that cut in the film. 889 00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:46,920 It's a good one, you know. Uh the tanker roll Uh oh 890 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,400 yeah, this was the one I was talking about. The tanker roll stunt 891 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,239 at the end of the chase was deemed so dangerous that the stunt driver was 892 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,840 not allowed to eat any food twelve hours before they shot, in likely event 893 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,320 that he could be rushed into surgery. What a fuck like? What is 894 00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:01,920 like like like you said, if I ever sit you down by hey, 895 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,599 don't eat. We're doing a stunt tomorrow, you might you're it was this 896 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,559 was the quote, uh likely event, rush to surgery. I don't like 897 00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:15,519 hearing the word likely surgery and rushed to surgery like likely and rushed are to 898 00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,199 not things you want to be hearing. But and like where they're filming I 899 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,039 can't imagine is like fucking two blocks down from the hospital, Like it seems 900 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,440 like they're in the middle of but fuck nowhere, Like is there a helicopter? 901 00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:31,440 Yeah, that guy the stunt from the movie. That's the first daid 902 00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:37,960 mate. There wasn't there another another movie where there was doing like a stunt 903 00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:43,880 and they actually told the person not to eat for twenty four hours their will. 904 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:52,320 I think, I think this is this That was like off script too. 905 00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:58,679 It's just like filming it na Jesus Christ or never release this film though 906 00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:01,639 that's a good one. I had no idea where you're going because I'm like, 907 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,599 what film knowledgist to him about to lay here like an inception mall jumping 908 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:16,360 god damn, oh geez, let's see. Contributing to cost production was the 909 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:22,159 most expensive set ever constructed for Australia film at the time. The Desert compound 910 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,840 was built in the desert of Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia. 911 00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:30,840 The production also boasted the largest explosion ever created for Australia film, which destroyed 912 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,239 the above set. So all genuine and they made the biggest set and they 913 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,239 made the biggest explosion for a bit. So I got that the director and 914 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,960 co writer co screenwriter George Miller was given rights to this and Mad Max three 915 00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:46,440 to get him to step aside as the director of Contact. So I guess 916 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,400 he was directing Contact. I guess they didn't want him to as a contractual 917 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,840 thing. But like I feel like that stuff, I don't know other than 918 00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:58,440 really independent filmmakers. I don't know the last time I've heard of a director 919 00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:01,400 to a s getting rights to a sequel. I could understand my first one, 920 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,760 like they do Bad Max and he gets right. But like we've read 921 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,320 that last time. It's like most successful Australian film, you know, there's 922 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,920 at least an audience for it, right, So it's like the stuff that 923 00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:13,119 was happening in the eighties and nineties. The fact that he has rights this, 924 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,440 like the way Hollywood is now. I don't think anyone's gonna rights to 925 00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:19,239 anything. Like I'm trying to think of like who would have owned the rights 926 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,039 initially just the studio, Yeah, just a studio, or they would have 927 00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,159 just yeah been because he probably you know, owned some of the script and 928 00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:29,320 everything. But I'm trying to think, like what is a movie. I'm 929 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,679 just trying to think, like not an IP movie. What's the movie that 930 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,960 came out that got a sequel that wasn't an IP movie? Like Quiet Place. 931 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,559 I'd be like John Krasinski being like, I want the rights to Quiet 932 00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:40,360 Place too. They would never fucking happen. They'd be like, that's what 933 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,119 You're not gonna have the rights to this film? Like, yeah, right, 934 00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:46,639 happen with uh like Rambo? Right? Or is that a different scenario? 935 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,400 It did? And then I think with Rocky was similar but then still 936 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,840 on lost them at some point or he sold them or something like that. 937 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:54,559 So but yeah, that was a big thing back in the day and now 938 00:58:54,719 --> 00:59:00,719 not so much. And finally it was renamed The Road Warrior North America because 939 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,159 at the time, the original Mad Max had only been released there on a 940 00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:07,320 limited basis, So Mad Max two may have not made sense and confused the 941 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,000 viewers. So I kind of get that standpoint where big I sa Australian film 942 00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:15,159 had a cult following. But if you just put Mad Max two and no 943 00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:16,440 one's seen Mad Max one, they'll be like, what the fuck is this? 944 00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:20,840 So and the road war just fucking badass title. Yeah, you know, 945 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,440 it makes sense that it was kind of hard for me to find this 946 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:28,039 movie because I was like searched up Road Warrior and or yeah, I think 947 00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:31,719 I just did Road Warrior and I just had like Thunderdome and then the original 948 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,119 Mad Max. And then when I also searched up Mad Max two, like 949 00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:37,960 it was just called Mad Max two, but then on like an image it 950 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,000 said Mad Max the road Warrior, and I was just confused. But I've 951 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:45,119 seen all three of those. It's like Mad Max two, Mad Max. 952 00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:47,400 I think if I don't know if I've seen Max Max road Warrior, but 953 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,480 Mad Max two, Mad Max to the Road war or just the Road Warrior 954 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,840 in all different like venues and whatnot. So makes sense, and I think 955 00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,239 it's probably I don't know, I still call it just I don't know what 956 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,920 I called. I think I just say Mad Max too. But World War 957 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:08,239 very cool, So Crookland found thoughts and rating. Yeah, I thought this 958 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:14,800 was a nice step up from that first film. Very much feels like just 959 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,960 like I don't know, I wanted to say peak mel Gibson, but it's 960 01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:22,400 probably pretty early to be saying that for peak mil Gibson. Peak mil Gibson's 961 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,480 probably like Brave Heart era, and like how far away actually is Braveheart from? 962 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,639 I think his nineties, right nineties, Okay, I think so, 963 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,679 if not late eighties, that was like his Oscar movie, right, Yeah, 964 01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:38,239 I think he won for I don't know if it's acting or directing or 965 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,119 bo I'll pull it up, but yeah, that's I would say that could 966 01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:45,719 be peak. And then maybe mainstream peak might be like Lethal Weapon, because 967 01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:50,079 I feel like people just fucking love those movies, like they love the dynamic. 968 01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:52,840 But you're probably right like career peak, and I don't know, like 969 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,320 what will like off I was gonna say, what will he be known for? 970 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,000 Like I think we know some stuff he's known for, but yeah, 971 01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:02,039 he won, God damn he won Best Picture Best Director for that one. 972 01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:06,920 So but I wonder what, like when he passes, and like I said, 973 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,360 controversy said, like what are what he would be known for, Like 974 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,679 would it be Brave Heart, would we leave the weapon? Would be mad 975 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,719 Max? Like I feel like now because the Mad Max movies are more popular, 976 01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:19,039 But I really don't know, I don't know what. Maybe it's just 977 01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:22,280 so he's just know as like a multi tier actor because he had multiple franchises 978 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,119 and big films, right So yeah, no, absolutely, but just this 979 01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:30,639 like early stage of his career when he's this strapping, handsome man with with 980 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,960 some charisma and a leather jacket and a little double barrel shotgun, Like, 981 01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:37,199 I'm really glad that we're going through these just kind of experience it, and 982 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,039 this one I felt like was a much better display than what the first movie 983 01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:45,559 was. And overall, like I just kind of like the simple motivation that 984 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:51,159 we had to do it. It was a nice contained story you kind of 985 01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:54,800 threw around, like the anthology word earlier, and it definitely feels that way, 986 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,800 and I think I think it helps it honestly, because I I think 987 01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:04,119 if like I could definitely just recommend this movie to a lot of people if 988 01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:07,840 they've never even seen Mad Max, which is kind of rare in like a 989 01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:10,920 like a movie franchise these days. They usually have a lot of ties to 990 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,559 the other ones. Well, not saying that this one doesn't to the first 991 01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:17,000 or maybe the third. I haven't seen that, but yeah, it's not 992 01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:22,920 like I must have watched yeah and yeah, just like the big explosions, 993 01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:29,599 the practical effects, the fucking the stunt men that put their bodies on the 994 01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:34,840 line to make this movie. I definitely definitely appreciate all of that and didn't 995 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,199 really talk about it, but I felt like there was some some nice score 996 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,719 moments too. In some of the action, it felt like an eighties like 997 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,480 action, like a song. I don't know if it's just like they have 998 01:02:45,639 --> 01:02:47,320 a similar one in like all these movies, but it just felt like some 999 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:52,199 stuff that I had heard before. But it's still boosted the action in my 1000 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,119 opinion, at multiple times. So yeah, overall, it was just it 1001 01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:58,719 was it was a great time watching this. I think if I had a 1002 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:04,280 number rate it, I think like eight point five maybe like pretty pretty damn 1003 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,840 high, not quite to the nine mark. I just think that the overall 1004 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,960 like Marauder type characters, I don't like. I don't feast for them. 1005 01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:15,199 I'm not like I love me some Marauders, like they kind of get annoying 1006 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,119 at the end of by the end of it for me personally, but like 1007 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,199 I don't really want them to change because it fits like the pot like this 1008 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,320 type of world that they set it up in. So yeah, I would 1009 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,360 like the camera thunder much thunder doom and we'll get there. But you got 1010 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:37,000 fear road and then clearly in Furiosa, Hemsworth is playing another like very over 1011 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:42,280 the top scene chewry stuff like that I would love and like you said, 1012 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,400 though, it's tough because it doesn't really fit with what they're going But I 1013 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:49,039 would love just one movie of like an Anton Sugar type of film, like 1014 01:03:49,199 --> 01:03:52,559 someone that is just deadly serious and they're just out like almost the reverse road 1015 01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:57,000 Warrior, where how he is known as like the guy if you see him, 1016 01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,840 like he'll might help you. He's the do gooder, the almost reverse 1017 01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:02,119 like almost like the fucking wolf and put some boots like you see this guy 1018 01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:05,840 and it's death, You're you get goosebumps, your hair stand on the back 1019 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,559 of your neck. Like I think that would work in this type of world. 1020 01:04:09,719 --> 01:04:15,199 And maybe you could have like an equivalent of like another like character of 1021 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,199 villain that is very height and whatnot. But I would love to see a 1022 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,239 character like an ant On Sugar or something. But again, like you said, 1023 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,880 I feel like that's that's that's the vibe they like. They like the 1024 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,400 very kookie villains, and you know it works. So just like an assassin 1025 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,880 like in this world that's taking people out, I'm just gonna have you or 1026 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,559 just say he's playing Anton Sugar. Just fucking just say no, he's just 1027 01:04:33,639 --> 01:04:38,079 playing the exact same character. Yeah, you're gonna watch that movie night Free 1028 01:04:38,119 --> 01:04:42,239 mel Gibson back. That's like they have like the Fury Road Fury ros Up. 1029 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,639 And then there's also just like a fucking sidebar of Mad Max movies bringing 1030 01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:47,280 back the old cast. Or you do like a really meta thing where mel 1031 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:53,840 Gibson plays the assassin like the Dark Warrior and it's like, you know, 1032 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,039 like humongous where he's wearing a mask. Yeah, big body. I don't 1033 01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:00,480 know how Jack mel Gibson is shap. I don't know if he's manga shape, 1034 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,599 but he's in shape. But there we go. We'll make that movie 1035 01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:08,760 one day. We got it. Kriklin, do you maybe you as well, 1036 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,880 Travis, do you know that sounds like mel Gibson episode no, yes, 1037 01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:17,239 I do with the stem cells. I don't know about this. Oh 1038 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,840 maybe that's a different one. I'm talking about the one where Cartman sees a 1039 01:05:23,199 --> 01:05:26,119 passion of the Christ and he wants to get a refund, so he goes, 1040 01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:28,960 no, actually have no, sorry, it's not carbon. Carmon loves 1041 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,679 the movie and supports well Gibson. I think it's Stan that goes to get 1042 01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:34,400 a refund and goes to Mel Gibsons house and he's got like the Brave Heart 1043 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:40,199 paint and he's just like he's just a freedom and they steal his money and 1044 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:45,480 he like follows him back to South. That's sucking great. That's that's my 1045 01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:47,719 memory of Mel Gibson when when you said, like he'll pass, that's just 1046 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,440 my picture because it's his actual face over the character like in the show. 1047 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:58,559 Yeah, no, Michael Jackson episode, that's it, mister Jefferson, that's 1048 01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:04,360 a that's a classic blank. Yeah. Never. So this movie was definitely, 1049 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,800 as I said before, better than I anticipated. I really enjoyed it. 1050 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,480 I'm gonna go probably a nice eight out of ten. I definitely feel 1051 01:06:12,519 --> 01:06:16,079 like there's not where I could go like perfect, because there's some stuff that 1052 01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:18,880 pulls you out, like when he opens that truck door and you see that 1053 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,159 dummy just fall out of the truck. Oh my god with the googly eyes. 1054 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,840 Yeah, googly eyes. I saw that. I'm like, fuck, 1055 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,599 we could make this, Yeah we could. So's There's a few other quirky 1056 01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:31,880 little things in there that just kind of like pulled me out of it. 1057 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,079 But overall, I had a lot more fun with it than I was expecting. 1058 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:38,519 I liked it more in the first one, and I think that this 1059 01:06:38,679 --> 01:06:41,400 is just this is my kind of like a really good Mad Max story that 1060 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,440 I really really like, and I like that it it reflects in certain lights 1061 01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:48,280 to what the mad Max Fury Road movie is a Tom Hardy I like that. 1062 01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:50,280 I like that, and I can't wait to get to that one because 1063 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,280 I'm really I'm really looking forward to it after kind of being immersed more in 1064 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,920 this world. So yeah, we should want to reverse because I'm a seven, 1065 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,239 I'm the lowest. But till like I said, I think the seven 1066 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,679 for me is as I've said before, seven are usually ones I'll watch a 1067 01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:08,280 bunch, and I did say, hey, I won't probably watch just a 1068 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,360 bunch over a bunch of It's not a movie where I'll be, oh, 1069 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,599 I'm just gonna put that on. But it's more just again because some of 1070 01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:15,320 the craftsmanship and just the work that they did do. And again, yeah, 1071 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,360 I shot out all that crew and whatnot. But yeah, definitely, 1072 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,559 maybe I gave the first one a seven as well. I feel like that's 1073 01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:25,559 kind of where they are except for Fearal, but we'll see, and who 1074 01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:29,119 knows what fear Els was. I'm very curious to when we see that and 1075 01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:31,159 everything. But yeah, that's where I am enjoyed it. I will probably 1076 01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:34,639 watch this movie again one day, but it uh have to be in assurd 1077 01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:40,920 mood and honestly, the I think I'm more inclined to go back and watch 1078 01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:44,480 this where I do feel like even if they have the same score the first 1079 01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:45,800 one. So maybe actually I'll bumble a little high. I'll go seven point 1080 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,159 five because I think I gave the first one seven. I don't know if 1081 01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:50,880 I'll ever go back and watch the first one. You know, I appreciate 1082 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,719 it for what it was. We talked about lots of great filmmaking stuff as 1083 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,000 firsts, just like man, you guys challenge yourself, but this one at 1084 01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,920 least has just more enjoy and I think that's not just because all the wife 1085 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,400 and kids eye stuff. It's just some of the ways it's done and the 1086 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,000 pace in that first one, where this one it doesn't also feel like Our 1087 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,280 and half. It goes by pretty fast. It is a short movie. 1088 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,920 But yeah, that's where Move seven point five enjoyed it because I for Thunderdome 1089 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,639 because, like I said, I think I remember that one the least, 1090 01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:18,119 because I always remember man Max one, because the first one, Road Warrior, 1091 01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:19,840 because I feel like that was the one that everyone's like, oh, 1092 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,000 that's the best one, dude, That's that's the whole series before Fear Road 1093 01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:26,800 came out and Fear Road's most recent. I feel like Thunderdome is one that 1094 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,000 I've seen like once and then like pieces of on TBS over the years and 1095 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,199 stuff. I just remember Melcops has like a fucking long ass hair wig or 1096 01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:38,840 something like that for a little bit. So yeah, we'll be going beyond 1097 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:43,239 the Thunderdome next time, and I promise you it'll not be boring. Goodbye.