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I think there's a couple of things
to be worried about with handicaffs. I

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don't love handicapped for this reason,
because now it's eight of your best twenty.

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I know a lot of golfers that
can shoot a seventy eight eight times

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and they can shoot in the nineties. So are they a seventy eight shooter?

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No, I think they should be
any whatever. Every eighty five shooter.

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That's what they should be called.
And I don't mean we're calling them

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that bad. I think for them
that would help them, right, isn't

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that more real? Eight of your
best twenty? Now there's golfers that are

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consistent. There are some that shoot
seventy eight to eighty three. They're out

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there. Then the handicaps is a
good number for them. But most golfers

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are not like that, all right. This is John Delt, golf coach

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at Soufermilion High School in Clinton,
Indiana. We play at Matthews Park and

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Geneva Hills Golf Club. We golf
Smarter. You should too. This is

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Golf Smarter Number nine hundred and twenty
one. Learn to close your club face

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properly for better ballflight with Eric Shoulberg. This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories

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and insights from great golf minds to
help you lower your score and raise your

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golf IQ. Here's your host,
Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf

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Smarter podcast. Eric Bred it's great
being here. Thank you for having me

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on. It's always an honor and
a blast to get to talk to you

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can catch up. Well, it's
a blast for me too. I really

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enjoy talking to you because when usually
when I have a conversation with somebody that

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we record, we'll chat for a
while and discuss what we're going to talk

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about. You and I just let
it rip. Like Josh Sanders like that

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too. We just can let it
rip. We can go in anywhere,

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any direction, and it's just fun. Yeah, it's good. Yeah,

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yep. So anyway, But one
of the things that I want to bring

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up, and let's see how long
we can make this last, what directions

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we can go with it, is
game improvement. Right. This podcast is

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all about game improvement. It's not
about the PGA Tour, but it's improvement

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for the amateur golfer. Now,
we see we try to compare ourselves,

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which is ridiculous. Try to compare
ourselves to what the pros are doing.

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You know, we try to say, oh I saw that shot on TV.

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I can do it. No,
you can't. And you know these

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guys they work ten eight to ten
to twelve hours every single day on their

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golf game with a team of coaches, and we have YouTube, we have

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podcasts. Right, not everyone takes
lessons and not everyone practices and going out

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to the driving range before year round
to warm up. It's not practice,

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it's warm up. But are there
stats? Are there things that we can

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look at in our game that will
enhance our development? Yeah? Right.

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I think there's a lot of different
ways that you can look at it.

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I think number one, you have
to establish as a golfer what what do

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you want to gain out of it? What do you want out of it?

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If you're that guy goes and plays
every once in a while and you,

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like you said, warm up,
hit some balls first, your expectations

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should be can I hit this golf
ball? You know, if you're that's

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the guy plays once, you know, every few months in the corporate something

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like that, your expectations should be
very low. So I don't think,

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you know, we're not talking a
ton about that guy that guy could be

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happier with expectations set low. But
let's talk about somebody who does want to

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get better. Then I think you
have varying levels, so you have the

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pros, which is hard to compare
to. Okay, but I think you

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can go. One of the greatest
things I think has been Arcos and the

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data that we've gained from them.
With there, I think they're gonna be

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over a billion shots at some point
here soon. Every time I hear lou

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Say Lusteigner talk about the number that
they're at, I'm like, well,

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it was just five hundred million,
Ou, it's eight hundred million. So

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I have seen billions come in real
soon the data. But what I love

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it you can look at you know, scratch fifteen twenty five thirty handicap and

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then it's it's very simple to break
down where where you are first off,

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as you can't go and say where
do I want to get to? And

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yes, course conditions can be somewhat
different over here. It makes things different,

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but it's just there's a there's a
certain yard age you hit the ball

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if you're a certain handicapped. In
general, Okay, it's very hard to

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say that somebody who carries the ball
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a thirty handicap. It's just they're
they're not out there. That person is

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probably a very very good golfer,
unless they're you know, just out there,

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you know for law drives or something
like that. Because you you look

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at the average mail drives it.
Please don't send me hate mail people two

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hundred and twenty yards, Okay,
that is the average male golfers too.

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Well, I think it's too eighteen
actually so, but I know everybody hits

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a three hundred. I hear all
the time. But I'm like, I

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know my TrackMan launch matter isn't wrong, but everybody has a three hundred.

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But so driving distance can be one
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I like to look at it like
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break off down really simple. You
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look at fairways hit okay, and
you can look at greens and regulation,

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and then you can look at putts. Those are three simple categories. If

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you just want to focus on those
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And you can look at those numbers
and say what do I need to

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get better? You know if you're
forty two putts, you cut down on

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your putts, right, you have
to be the tour guys or let's forget

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out two guys. If you want
to shoot below eighty and then you need

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to get about nine greens around.
That's just a basic fact. You better

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get nine greens in regulation. You're
now somebody can shoot an eighty with six.

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I'm sure you've done it. Fred, You've had a great day of

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chipping and putting, okay, but
just in general, you better think you're

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going to be eight to nine and
you know the number goes up to get

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to low seventies. And that's Those
are the barriers you can look at.

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And I could even send you a
link if you want later to some of

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those breakdowns to look at of what
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what I have to get to to
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I want to get to. So
I guess to answer your questions very easy

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to look at data and figure out
where am I at in those three categories.

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And if I want to get better, then I need to get better

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here. If I'm missing fairways and
taking penalty strokes, I have to become

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a better driver somehow to get to
the next level. Okay, so that's

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just those are the numbers, and
that's that's not how we get better,

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but those are the numbers of what
that needs me done to reach the different

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level. And I think that's what
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you're trying to break a hundred,
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you can look at a handicap if
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five eighty and working down that way. If you're a golfer, I think

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that's the best way to break down. If that is the planer trajection you

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want to look at. You don't
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just no, no, you progress
slowly down the path, just how it

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works. So I'd say that's the
first step, and then the fun part

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is going to work on each of
those areas that you need to. But

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it's it's the process. So I
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for is I every student I bring
back to my teaching bay, I have

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to drive by the driving range to
drop once doing off and I pick up

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the next So I typically will make
a comment about what I'm seeing to them

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so hoping that they'll learn. I'm
never making fun of anybody. It's just

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an observation of what do I see, so simple observations. I see.

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It's driving ranges, hitting one ball
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not move at all. I call
it raking. You keep your grip on

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and you just grab one ball and
you like, raak it in right and

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you swing again. Here's the funny
thing, though, if you hit two

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balls in a row, one you
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steven iron or whatever it is.
Your brain has no idea what happened different.

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You didn't do anything in between to
say, body, this is the

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if I'm trying to make. This
is what I'm trying to do. Now,

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you stand on that range with a
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if we're athletic at all, are
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groove something where we start feeling a
little better about it, right, and

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we may be able to start hitting
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the end of our one hundred balls, we probably got Some of those guys

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usually got a large bucket of balls, so they'll start probably feeling a little

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better about it after hitting that.
But it relates to zero. To the

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golf course, that will absolutely relate
zero, because how often do you stand

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hit the same club in a row
on a golf course and you're playing well.

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I guess even if you have even
if you have to go get another

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ball because you hit one ob or
something, you are going to move your

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feet. But I think that's really
a fascinating observation about about people in driving

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range who don't move their feet,
right, yeah, rac and swing and

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rake and swing and rake and swing. Yeah. And it's so different than

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it would be on the course,
you know. It's like what I suggest

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for people is if you're working and
you have something you're working, you have

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to do that in between swing and
number one, don't buy a large bucket

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balls, get the small bucket,
step behind your ball, go through your

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routine play golf. While you're out
there, you go through everything you do,

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do your practice swing or whatever you
normally do. But have something you're

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working on in between so you can
get some form of feedback. If you

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don't have any feedback, there's nothing
you're learning feedback. I can't say it

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enough. You have to have feedback
in golf, whether it's your video,

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whether it's something you're putting on the
ground, whether you're putting something like the

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headcover in the way if I hit
the hit cover, my path was wrong

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or whatever it is. It's the
only way you're going to learn. Otherwise,

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how do you know what you're doing? You don't, So just kind

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of a few things I guess that
I noticed and see, and then I'll

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try to point out so that they
don't fall into those traps. And I

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know everybody out there at the range
thinks that are working on it, and

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they're exercising though, and you know, I wish I could just go up

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there and say stop, let's get
better. And I think us would do

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it. I think most just don't
know. I do think it's also harder

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to practice the way I would ask
you to practice than it is just staying

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there nack golf balls. It's it's
it's I would say, kind of brainless

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hitting seven irons in a row possibly
right verse? What if you had to

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step back and do you know,
like I prescribe like some kind of slow

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motion move or whatever it is,
so you can really feel it that takes

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work right, and feedback maybe a
video to see did I do it correct?

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So there's ways to do it that
take less time than it would hit

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your large bucket of balls and get
much better. So waste do Yeah,

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there's too many questions to ask,
but we're not gonna do it right now

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because we're going to take a time
out and we'll be back right after this.

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It's so interesting because when people are
on the driving range and they're just

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you know, rake and swing and
rake and swing. I don't know if

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they're looking at the ball flight,
if they're looking at you know, or

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feeling the contact. Are they just
going for distance? You know, let's

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go back to the seven. I
are not your driver. And even if

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they they know immediately once the ball
leaves the club face that the ball flight's

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gonna be either what they want or
what or what they're not hoping for,

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it still has to be analyzed.
You got to look at that ball flight

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and say, what does that mean? Right? Huge? Huge? I

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see this And I don't know if
you've seen this too. I'm sure you

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had been on golf. How many
are hitting the next wall for the last

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ball? Lands? Oh, I've
done that. I know, well,

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I know if I if I have
a shot that that was not what I

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intended I'll go ahead and do it
again, but yeah, but I probably

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don't step away and restart, probably
keep my feet locked in and just like

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scrape it up. So yeah,
the moving of the feet, the repositioning,

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the stepping away, going through your
whole shot routine. Yeah, yeah,

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is something that you know. It's
like that makes a big difference.

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It's less time, less expensive,
you don't have to buy as many balls,

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and it's way way more fruitful.
I know the place I work,

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they charged like thirty dollars for balls
now, so it's like everything's getting crazy.

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So yeah, I think you,
you know, bring up some good

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points. I I just fact there's
you follow those do those right little things

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at the range, and the payoffs
can you know, be absolutely huge.

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But you have to have some source. And I think you brought up the

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greatest point of all in golf that
I work very hard with every student to

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try to understand. So if you
go play golf or your driving range and

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you hit a shot and it's you
know, it starts left to your target

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and curves off to the right,
what percent of people I'm gonna asking you

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you could analyze that shot as the
nine ball flight laws what happened at impact?

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What percent would you guess? And
I'll tell you what I think as

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the percent that could say this is
what happened. Let's just say with path

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and face, those two, only
those two, this is what happened with

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my path and face on that golf
shot. I know for a fact this

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is what happened. I mean,
it's got to be a number. I

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think it's just way lower than that
from the leasons I see. And I

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yeah, because I can see good
golfers that don't know. Yeah, sure,

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even good golfers that don't know.
I have no idea, so real

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simply if you you don't need a
launch minor figure this out now. It

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may be good to be with the
pro at first to do it so you

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can kind of calibrate and say this
is what it is. But if you

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if you were in general, the
ball is going to start pretty close,

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especially on the loger the clubs to
where your club base is pointed. You

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know, you can say, you
know, seventy five eighty five percent probably

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on the driver. You know,
see wedge is gonna it's not going to

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be as much, but you don't
have to worry about it because the ball

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doesn't move that much off when you're
with your sandwich. So your typical seven

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iron. Just assume the ball started
pretty darn close to where that face was

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pointed. Okay, so you saw
your target was straight ahead. You saw

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that ball start off to the left
of your target. So what do we

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know right now? Before anything?
Your hips weren't open. No, that

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doesn't matter. We're not worried about
your hips or your shoulders, because that's

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why I hear at first what happened
on that shot? Oh my hips were

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I don't care what happened with that
Right now, we have to analyze club

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face work first and then we work
backwards to the body. Yeah so club

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faced, Yeah, you left in
your head. Okay, so your club

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face had to be pointed left right, and the only way for that ball

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to curve to the right would be
with your club path further to the left.

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Now, how much that ball curved
is how how much your path was

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to the left. So the greater
difference between your path and your face is

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the more curvature that you have.
Okay. Now, obviously a driver is

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going to move more because it's in
the air longer. But if you have

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if you start the ball on your
target line. Like a lot of people

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who swing over the top will start
of the target line and they swing way

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left. Okay, so it may
start right on the target line for a

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second, that peels way up to
the right. That tells you you are

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swinging your club path is way to
the left. So you golfer have to

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figure out your club path. Your
club face was on the target line,

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right, but you have to figure
out how to swing your path on that

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same line. I mean, you're
gonna have to learn to close your club

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face a lot more too, at
the same time you're doing that. But

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it's a simple analysis if you think
about it. If the ball starts off

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way to the right, which most
people do, what happened. Your club

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face is wide open. Learn to
crank that club face down. Get yourself

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a really strong grip when you look
down at you. Most people, I

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say, the weakest grips like weaker
than John Rom's. Okay, and you

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better see three to four knuckles most
golfers. Okay, that way, it's

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going to help the club face close
on its own. You're talking about a

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lead hand, right lead hand,
Yeah, sorry about that. It's going

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to help the club face close on
its own and you'll be twisting the shaft

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more and that gives you a chance. But what happens, and I've been

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fortunate to see this a couple of
times. I saw athletic young golfers,

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juniors. They hit a shot,
a good swing inside out, the ball

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went by twenty yards to the right. And these are brand new golfers,

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okay, So within three to four
shots, their path was probably fourteen to

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little left and then their face got
more center now or their face was even

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left, so it curved into the
right. So they're happy now with their

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shot. But if somebody would have
been there right at the right time,

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said buddy, great swing path,
let me just show you how to close

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this club face, they would have
been off to the races. But everybody

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relates. This is why it's important. They always relate it to the club

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path, what the ball is doing
when it starts. So if you know

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that it wasn't that it's your club
face, then you'll know that your big

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air and golf golfers is your club
face. Mainly, fix your club face

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and you will find life and golf
will be much more fun. And that's

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all done with the grip. Well, there's basically a couple of ways.

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I'd say three ways to close the
clubface. One is what most people do,

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unfortunately, is they have a real
weak grip. They take it back

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and they square it up right in
front by throwing the club face. Okay.

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The other way you can do it
is by this real rotational move like

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this, which a lot of us
were brought up to do. Okay,

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it's so hard, it's impossible.
And like even the pros they talk about

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that have done it, they talk
about two thousand shots a day, and

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if you miss a day, it
takes them three days to get that back.

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Wow. Yeah, yeah, So
tell me how you're our amateurs are

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going to time that out. You're
not. You may stripe one every once

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in a while, but like you
said, it's impossible. And the third

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way is you can be like the
pros. You get a stronger grip.

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So the pros, I don't always
have to have stronger if they've learned to

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do what's called twisting the handle okay, and if if Fred can see my

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hands, but what I'm doing is
I'm twisting. Okay, So I'm going

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from my left my lead wrist is
extended here that cup so by the time

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I can do the top of this
wing, I have a choice. I

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can flatten it out. So what
did I do. I closed the club

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face and if I just hold that
more flat on the way down, my

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club face is closed. The more
I'm like this coming in with cup,

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guess what the club face is wide, wide open. Okay, So the

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pros what they typically do, say
like John ram or whatever. He'll swing

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up and he's twisting the shaft.
John Rahm has done a lot of it

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on the way up. That's why
he's bowed. He's actually releasing on the

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way down to an extended position that
way. But most golfers, let's say

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more that are more neutral. We'll
get to the top and they're twisting the

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shaft like this. If you guys, folks to see my hands. So

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I go like this. It's like
a motorcycle move. If you've ever rid

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a motorcycle or anything that has handles
that you turn for the throttle, you

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want to take your lead hand is
taking the throttle off. Turn it the

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other way. Now, try to
do that with a really strong grip.

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You'll see the club If I have
a really weak grip, Look how I

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can barely turn my hand stronger.
Look how much I can turn this thing

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over. That means I can take
the club and whip it down. Okay.

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So most golfers need to fix their
club face and they'll find out golf

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will change forever for them. They
were so hard path and they work and

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everything. Fix your grip and then
fix your club face and get your club

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face in a much stronger position on
the way down. The number one checkpoint,

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i'd say for all golfers. So
when you get to here, which

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is P six where the club is
sticking out like right here, your hands

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are here? What do you mean? What's P six? Okay? So

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I we have got you know,
the positions in golf, So we have

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we have P one address P two. So let's say, let me give

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roll some P fours when we get
to the top, okay, is P

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four so we have two three,
which is arm parallel. P four is

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I'm at the top. P five
as we're getting back to arm parallel.

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P six is club parallel to the
ground before P seven is impact. Okay,

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So P six is club parallel to
the ground on the way down.

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That club should be parallel to the
ground. It should be a little bit

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behind your hands and the angle of
that club face. Most golfers see how

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this angle is. That'd be matching
my back angle if I was hitting about

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like that. See it. Most
golfers their clup faces like this wide open.

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So when your face is wide open
at p six, what do you

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do? You stand up and you
throw it. It's the only way to

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hit it. That's why you see
every golfer. Most golfers early extend.

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They thrust their pelvis into the ball
and they stand up because what is your

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body doing. It's helping you get
that clupface closed, but you're throwing your

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pelvis at You're slowing things down,
and what do you do? It helps

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you square it, but you're just
you're throwing it at the ball. That's

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why your arms are extended at the
ball instead of having more of this look.

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But it's all bait. Did everything
I say there was all based on

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an open clupface. It wasn't based
on anything else. So don't roll that

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club face open on the way back, have control of it, have that

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thing down, feel like it's shut
as can be, and then learn to

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just do that, because here's what
happens. The antidote to the closed club

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fase is guess what, your hips
clearing out of the way like the professionals,

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like everybody wants to have, right, it's not an artificial clearing.

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It's your hips go, Holy smokes, I better get out of the way

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or this ball is going a million
miles left. What is the antidote to

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the open face? Your hips stopping
for you so you can close the club

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face. So if you want to
look like Rory is not good, to

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the top of your swing and flip
your hips all the way because you're just

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spinning out. It does you no
good. You close your clup face and

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after a little while your body goes, you know what, I gotta get

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out of the way, or this's
going way left. And that's the antidote

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to the left. And guess what, then you start clearing out. But

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everything I said there was based on
the club face, yep. And don't

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do what I do, which is
tinker with it during your round. All

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right, we're gonna take another time
out. We'll be back right after this.

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We talked about the nine different flight
paths early. You mentioned it,

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the ball flight laws, Yes,
ball flight laws, Yeah, take go

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deeper. I'm fascinated. Yeah,
so they're really cool. It's it was

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something that the old ones were wrong
because the PJ had said that the ball

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started closer to the path than the
face, and when track Man came out,

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they said, definitively, no,
that's wrong, it's more on the

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face. So we learned a lot
of a lot about golf then, and

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you know, it's really interesting.
People asked how I taught back then?

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What I told people? And you
told some people wrong stuff because you would

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have them swing more the right,
which would cause a bigger hook for somebody

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that would do it. But after
a while we all knew that something's not

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right because I'm telling this guy swing
way over there on the ball's hooking more.

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How can I tell them swing more
to the left. This is working.

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So even though we were told this
and didn't understand it as coaches,

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if you did it long enough,
you figured it out, even though you

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didn't have the data to prove it. So when TrackMan came out with that

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tonus that the ball flew closer to
where the face angle is, then we

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learned a lot. So if you
draw a straight just a straight line towards

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your target path and then you had
one go you know, like you pushed

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it to the right, the other
one you pulled it to the left.

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Okay, there's three of them,
and then you would have basically branches out

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of each one of them. So
I have the left, you'd have that

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straight pole right, and then you
would have one that would be a poll

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hook as an option, and then
you would have that pull, fade,

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pull, slice, whatever you want
to call it. So there's three there,

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and then the same thing. The
straight shot would have one that went

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dead straight. You would have one
that started on the line and then drew,

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and then one that faded off of
it. So there's you have three

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off each one of those. So
off of each one of those, you

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can deduce what happened to any of
your shots. And when you understand that,

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you can make the changes that you
need. So if I look at

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a shot, a typical problem I'll
have is I'll swing too far out to

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the right and look it back in
or leave a push out there, you

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know, so I'll have a push
draw or just a push just push it

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straight out there. So if I
push it out to the right, I

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know the ball started to the right, and let's say it doesn't curve.

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I know my club path and club
face were exactly you can say exactly say

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pretty much the same degree, Okay, So if the ball stays straight,

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it doesn't matter if tragments those four
degrees or six. Like I got an

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idea about a little bit because I'm
only a certain amount off to the right.

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I know that my path and face
are exactly the same, and then

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the So that's the one part.
The other part is knowing if it curves

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the right, your club path is
inside of the face. If it curves

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the other way, your path is
outside the face angle. So I think

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if you just see the chart once
and understand those three, then you can

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figure out any golf shot. And
and the thing is where like, without

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knowing those how do you fix your
golf game when you're playing? You can't

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because you can't see your golf swing. And then for you to hit a

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shot that you most people for you
you know a pull cut or something in

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there, you don't know for sure
that what happened on that shot. So

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it's like when you understand the ballfight
laws, then you can go look at

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a shot and go, I know
what happened with my path and face and

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our bodies are really good at organizing
the other stuff around that. I mean,

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you got to build a good foundation
somewhat, get a good grip.

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I tell people about golf. You
know, if you build a foundation of

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a good posture, good stance,
you know your alignment can be different.

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It's matchups for alignment. Get a
good golf grip, you know, understand

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a good posture, and then understand
those ballflight laws. Then you'll understand what

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path you need to make this work
any I use ropes to teach people to

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swing. Every time I put in
a rope in somebody's hand that has a

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twelve degree path to the left,
way over the top right, they think,

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oh, I can't fix this.
I put a rope and I goes.

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I stand on the right, I'll
stand up the left. At first,

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I swing to me. They do
it really easy, and I'll walk

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over about twenty feet to the right
and say swing to me. That go

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and swing right out to me like
you did it in one swing. You

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swung out to the right. So
everybody can pick his path. There's nobody

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that is like, I can't do
this, But they don't understand the relationship

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between the two. And when you
understand that relationship. It's fixable. I'm

409
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not I'm not trying to claim golf
is easy, but golf is very very

410
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hard when you don't have that basis
as a framework. And I think if

411
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everybody had that basis, golf would
be golfers will be much much better.

412
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:42.519
But most golfers are just playing in
the blind unfortunately because of that. Sure,

413
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:51.640
yeah yeah so, and trying to
feel it while you're doing it is

414
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:56.519
also really that's why video is so
great. And I've been using the Arcost.

415
00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:03.799
You talked about Arcost earlier. I've
been using the Arcos and uh it

416
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.480
says that my my average drive is
two thirty three. Okay, so a

417
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:14.200
little bit above normal, right,
but sometimes I'll have a two eighty five

418
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.880
drive, right, and it's like
yeah, yeah yeah. But then also

419
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:19.799
there'll be time so I'll have a
one seventy five drive, you know.

420
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:25.839
That's why I'm a two eighty three. You know? Yeah? Are you

421
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.559
so? Year after a round you
fix it. But you're able to go

422
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.799
through with arcos, which I love. Now you're able to look at it

423
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:37.799
and say, this is why are
you set against Because I have an idea

424
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.279
probably where you are as a handicammer, you set against a scratch or a

425
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:42.519
five or what do you set yours
against? To look at ten? So

426
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:47.920
your goal is to be a ten
and you're a what about nine? Six?

427
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:49.960
Okay, so you're looking at where
you are in that arri's because I

428
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.400
know you can also set it against
like a scratch and say yeah, okay,

429
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:59.039
I was like four behind that.
Yeah, yeah, I don't want

430
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:00.920
to do that. I want to
play like i'm playing. I want to

431
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:06.039
play consistent to where I am right
now, and if I get improved on

432
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.279
it, that's great. But I'm
not trying to be something i'm not.

433
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:15.400
And the fact that I'm I'm just
around to ten right now is still amazing

434
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.759
to me. Well, I don't
know what percent of the nation. I

435
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.799
can't remember what ten is. It's
top I can't remember. I mean,

436
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.519
you're in the top fifteen percent.
Maybe I think it's a big number.

437
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.400
Yeah. Somebody said, somebody asked
me recently, are you a good golfer?

438
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.000
And I said, I'm not good, but I'm not bad. Yeah,

439
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.920
I know. I think it's very
respectable. I mean it's you know,

440
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.559
I feel like, but you have
a good you have a good knowledge.

441
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.480
You also do other things too.
I mean, I don't we don't

442
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.880
know what Fred would be if he
had. I think you always have to

443
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:51.119
factor in your ten handicap with you
don't practice a ton, you don't play

444
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.000
a ton. What would you be
if you had five days on the course

445
00:28:53.519 --> 00:29:00.920
a week tired, tired and achy, Ay, dude, I'm sixty eight

446
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.519
years old, I'd be I'd be
in a lot of pain. I mean,

447
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:10.319
it's hard to hard to think that. But because you don't look at

448
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.000
thank you, well you're welcome.
Yeah, sponsors, you'll know why,

449
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.000
Well, yeah you do. But
you do it right, yeah, one

450
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.920
hundred percent. It doesn't You got
to work on it. But I think

451
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.519
that's the same as golf. But
I think it's how you do it is

452
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.400
fine. You know, setting against
ten, so you go have a round

453
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:30.880
and you can look at it when
you didn't play as well and say,

454
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:37.640
well, I was plus three in
my putting or whatever. You know where

455
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.079
you were off and probably I don't
know yet if you're do you see trends

456
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.000
when you're going the wrong way,
Possibly you have to say, oh my

457
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.319
putting's going a little or this is
going a little awkward. It's Another thing

458
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.920
people have to have is arcos or
some kind of something to tell them because

459
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:59.400
yeah, the feed. Yeah,
I mean, the thing that's so interesting

460
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.359
is the first thing I'll look at
is on it's my total number of putts.

461
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.920
And you know, I know that
if I can keep it into the

462
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.799
twenty nine to thirty one thirty two
range of putts in a round, I'll

463
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.119
have a decent score. But then
if I have a high score, I'm

464
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.680
like, oh, well, you
had thirty nine putts today, you had

465
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.720
forty putts today, and you had
four three putts and okay, so that

466
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.799
means the four three putts also could
mean that I'm not picking the right club

467
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.559
on my approach shot because I'm leaving
myself a sixty foot putt on my first

468
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.640
pot, and that's yeah, a
sixty foot putt is like, okay,

469
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:40.480
that's gonna be a three putt perhaps, Yeah, yeah, I think over

470
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.079
thirty I think when you tour average, they go once it's over thirty two

471
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.759
feet, that's when they creep into
a possible three putt. So at sixty

472
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:53.039
foot we have a pretty good chance. Yeah you said thirty two. Yeah,

473
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.640
so I think once it goes are
thirty two, their putts go to

474
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.519
thirty, they go to two point
oh one. At thirty two feet or

475
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.440
thirty three feet is when they finally
break over over a two point oh one

476
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.680
and they had at thirty two or
thirty three feet. My last couple of

477
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.200
rounds, I actually started looking at
what's the length of my first putt.

478
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.480
That's the one of the number of
things you can do that first. That

479
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:19.160
helps on the approach, right,
because now it's telling me if I'm using

480
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.839
the right clubs on my approach shots
massive. It gives you this massive new

481
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.440
level done it than just gi rs
or how many pots. That number is

482
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:33.200
absolutely crucial to having. It makes
a world of difference huge. So that's

483
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.920
good. That's good, you're getting
that data. Okay, we talked about

484
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.920
earlier about comparing ourselves to how pros
improve how versus how we improve. When

485
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:49.279
we come back after this break,
let's talk about how a fifteen handicap versus

486
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:55.279
a three handicap, you know,
because three handicap is not someone who's gonna

487
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.079
be making the tour at anytime soon, no matter how good they think they

488
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.720
are. So let's let's find out
what's happening on golf Smarter Mulligans this week,

489
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:06.240
and then we'll back right after this. This week on Golf, Smarter

490
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:12.160
Mulligans is the second conversation with legendary
coach Jim Hardy, just after he published

491
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:16.160
his book Solid Contact. You know, recently I heard someone say golf's a

492
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.240
simple game that's really hard. Well, in this hour long episode with Jim,

493
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:27.799
he puts it this way, Golf
is a ten thousand different pieces,

494
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.720
all some way glued together. And
the ball flights of mystery and the impacts

495
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.960
of mystery, and our swings a
mystery, and we've got timing, tempo,

496
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.759
rhythm and balance. We've got a
strong grip, a week grip.

497
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:43.119
You bendo where you stand up,
you put the ball forward, you put

498
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.039
the ball back, You make a
long back swing, a short back swing,

499
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:49.000
you take it straight back, you
take it to the inside, You

500
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.279
cock your wrists, you're across the
line, your legth off. I could

501
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.880
go on for hours, but that's
why people look at golf. They look

502
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.279
at golf as though we've got all
the colors of the rainbow going on,

503
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.359
plus fall the sounds of an arch
distract going on, and it's just too

504
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.119
complicated. That's Episode two hundred and
thirty seven of Golf Smarter Mulligans, the

505
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:13.160
second of two episodes with Jim Hardy
after the release of his book Solid Contact.

506
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.440
Originally published as a member's only episode
in April of twenty twelve, this

507
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.759
is the first time this episode has
ever been shared publicly and it's a good

508
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.079
one. So if Golf Smarter is
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from wherever you're listening right now.
So golfers who would love to get to

513
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.839
a low index, and I'm not
even gonna call it scratch, because that's

514
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:02.200
just to be a scratch golfer,
your consistency has to be on such a

515
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.680
high level and it doesn't even come
close to what the pros do. Because

516
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:15.079
even the best player at your local
course, if you're country club and they're

517
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.000
playing the same course over and over
and over again, or you're on the

518
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.119
men's club, are you just you
know, you like to compete locally.

519
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:30.199
Getting to a low index versus versus
scratch is a tremendous amount of work.

520
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:37.719
Getting fifteen to attend takes work.
I mean, it all takes work.

521
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.599
It's not a game of perfection and
it's not a game of consistent progress.

522
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:47.800
And anyone thinks they can get better
every time out is fooling themselves. Correct,

523
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.119
that's a good point, I think, you know. So we have

524
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.719
so much data now to know the
difference. You know, as I think

525
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.480
I said earlier, to look at
if you're fifteen, you want to become

526
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.280
a five, which a lot of
people I see say that they want to

527
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.039
attain a certain level. And I'm
like, that's great, So let's sit

528
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.800
down and look at what is the
difference between you and then. And that

529
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:13.800
doesn't mean I'm showing them a swing
of what a five is, because I

530
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:15.800
think there's a couple of things to
be worried about with handicaps. Is this

531
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:22.920
is that you can look at golf. I don't love handicapped for this reason,

532
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:27.519
because it's now it's eight of your
best twenty. Okay, so what

533
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.679
kind of I know a lot of
golfers that can shoot a seventy eight eight

534
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.440
times and they can shoot in the
nineties. So are they Are they a

535
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.360
seventy eight shooter? No? I
think there should be any whatever, every

536
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.440
eighty five shooter, and that's what
they should be called. And yeah,

537
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.159
I mean we're calling them that bad. I think for them that would help

538
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.400
them, right, isn't that more
real? Like eight of your best twenty?

539
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:52.079
Now, there's golfers that are consistent. There are some that shoot seventy

540
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.039
eight to eighty three. They're out
there and then that's then the handicap is

541
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.360
a good number for them. But
most golfers are not like that. Oh

542
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.519
no, No, I mean like
I got to a point recently where over

543
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:08.760
my last twenty rounds was a ten
stroke like seventy six to eighty six where

544
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.400
it was my you know, the
range that I had that is incredibly consistent

545
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.119
for me. I couldn't believe.
It's like wow, over twenty rounds.

546
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:22.440
I you know, I know that
a handicap is there for gambling purposes,

547
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:28.719
but a handicap shows your potential.
It doesn't show what your average score is.

548
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.079
And I think that for the gambling
purposes you got to go. You

549
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:36.559
know what I might generally I shoot
an eighty three. Okay, let's work

550
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:42.599
from that, not ye a nine
hands cap. You should have your last

551
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.239
twenty if you entered them, average
them. You know what I mean.

552
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.119
It's if you're honest with your score, just average it and then that's.

553
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.880
Oh, it'll tell you. It
says your last It'll show you on the

554
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:58.239
gin USGJ. Yeah, it says, here's your last twenty rounds, your

555
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.199
high score, your low score,
and the ape score of those twenty.

556
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:06.719
Use that. Use then you know
what else, and you know what else,

557
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:15.360
and then move up to the test. Moving back. Everybody the ego

558
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:21.159
I hate this. Okay. You
know what, if you want to play

559
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.800
the back tease, you're going to
get in less trouble because it's designed for

560
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:29.639
your skill level. And that's why
they put the bunkers where they do,

561
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.199
in the water where they do.
If you want to not get to the

562
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.679
bunkers, move back. Okay,
fine, fine, But if you want

563
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:43.760
to have more fun playing golf,
play it forward. Man. What How

564
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.119
what distance do you play your corset? I don't know about I usually,

565
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.920
honestly, I never look at the
distance. I look at the slope.

566
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.119
I look the slop okay, so
you're you do a better job that way.

567
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.320
I think it's I don't know,
it's I have not run into this

568
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:05.480
yet. I so I try not
to judge people yet because I hope I'm

569
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.159
not one. I usually am not
ego driven with so many things. So

570
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.440
I don't like when I go play
golf with my wife a lot. I'll

571
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.039
play the reds with her, but
I don't whip a driver oute ever,

572
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:15.719
like I'll hit an iron off the
tee and have fun because I don't want

573
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.400
to go back and forth to tea
boxes, and I just I think it's

574
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.679
fun for me and her just tea
off the same tea box. We're more

575
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.840
together instead of a part. So
I hope that is a thing for me

576
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:30.239
saying I'll be able to do it, but move up, don't. I

577
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.199
don't think I'll have that ego issue. I don't know why men do,

578
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:37.679
because I don't think people look down
on anybody for it. And I feel

579
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.280
sorry for those guys that when you
hit a three wood or a hybrid every

580
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.679
time in the second shot, and
I teach those guys, I'm like,

581
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.079
isn't that get tiring and old?
And they're like, well yeah, but

582
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.599
I'm not going up to those teas. Well. You know what, that's

583
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.440
an interesting point is that you know, no one's going to look down on

584
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:58.840
you from moving forward, but boy
are they going to have judgments if you're

585
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:04.000
playing from the back teas and you
don't belong there. Oh you're that's where

586
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.599
the judgments are. Yeah, and
so like, dude, you should not

587
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:12.639
be playing the black the back tees. You should not do that. Yeah,

588
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.480
it's interesting, but people, I
think, equate it to the other

589
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.079
way, which is really interesting.
So yeah, I hope, I hope

590
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.880
I don't have an issue, and
I hopefully if you are getting better.

591
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.079
I just think I don't know what
it was. I don't know if it's

592
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:30.519
the ladies tea that it got called
and you're not. I don't call them

593
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.639
the lady's I know, and I
think I don't know if that. I

594
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.280
think my point is by saying that
for so many years that that got in

595
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.719
men's minds that they can't move forward. But I you know, I don't

596
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.400
know they have you know, T
boxes that are a part of it.

597
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:46.000
I don't I just know I would
never want to hit a three wood out

598
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.440
of the fair rate. I don't
like hitting it now on part fives.

599
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.559
I don't love hitting three woods,
like I'd like to have an iron in

600
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:54.519
my hand, so if I wouldn't
do it all day long. So you

601
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.440
know, I'm not going to play
a T box where I have hit three

602
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.079
woods, you know, but fourteen
of the holes to it hopefully to the

603
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.400
green I mean on my second shot, and probably end up short. So

604
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.679
I'll move up, I promise.
Oh wait, wait, wait, you

605
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.599
don't use driver? You lost me
on that? What? No, I

606
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:14.199
don't love even hitting three woods on
a par five from me if I play

607
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:16.719
that tea is like I like hitting
irons. I would hate to have to

608
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.280
do it fourteen times in a row, have to hit a three wood because

609
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.559
I'm short, you know, like
a lot of people have to, you

610
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.559
know. So it's like I would
I like it. I'd rather play a

611
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T box where I have an eight
iron in yeah yeah, oh yeah,

612
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.800
yeah yeah. Well the whole idea
of playing forward was play like the pros

613
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do you know. It's like,
but what do they do? They hit?

614
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.639
They'll hit driver or three wood and
then a wedge or a nine iron

615
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.320
or an eight iron. That's what
we do. We're hitting driver and then

616
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a hybrid. Yeah, it's like
I think a good way to think about

617
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:50.920
it is most people, if they
watch golf, look at the clubs they

618
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:55.320
use on their second and find the
tea box that fits that, right.

619
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:59.280
I mean it's like if they're hitting
driver nine irons, drivers, wedges,

620
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drivers, some iron, then find
t boxes that allow you to hit driver

621
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.440
some iron and that'll be fun.
It'll be much more fun. Look.

622
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.599
Yeah, so you know, getting
back to your point on what somebody needs

623
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.880
to do to get to if you're
everybody's going to have a little different path

624
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:20.760
to go from twenty to fifteen to
fifteen, ten, ten to five,

625
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.559
handicap five and down. If we're
using handicap as the as just the general.

626
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:25.960
You know, Art Coast uses that
a lot because it makes it easier

627
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.719
to look at numbers. But you're
going to find out when you grab those

628
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.760
numbers what you need work on.
Okay, and typically people aren't as good

629
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.880
as punt. If I had a
prescription for somebody that you just want to

630
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.760
score better, it's going to be
within one hundred yards. Okay, you're

631
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.039
going to get your one hundred yard
game better. But that doesn't mean that's

632
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.960
the prescription for everybody. You need
to get your usually your whole game better.

633
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.679
But if it's like Eric, I
have one month we're getting I got

634
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:51.519
to get as good as like can
in a month. I'm like, okay,

635
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:53.800
we're getting really good short game here. That's that's where that's the low

636
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.920
hanging for you, right with everything. But if you have to improve your

637
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.000
whole game, you need these metrics
to say, and I'm only hitting five

638
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.840
greens per round. If I want
to shoot an eighty, I have to

639
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.920
get to eight, eight to nine
greens. You know you do have to

640
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:13.159
get there on average, right,
So that's a good metric right there.

641
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.559
You know you're driving distance probably can't
be from a back T two twenty and

642
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.039
do that you're knock hit three woods
in and get down to a five handicapped.

643
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:23.920
You better have a lot of irons
in your hands if you want to

644
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.000
go down to a five handicap.
So if your business doesn't match less ease,

645
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.000
you better get up to the right
tea that'll allow you to hit the

646
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.559
right irons in. But it's a
pretty simple formula when you look at it

647
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.480
of what you need to get better
at to reach whatever handicap you want.

648
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:43.960
When we have the data in front
of us, so you know, if

649
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.440
you go get a lesson, show
up to your lesson and have some stats,

650
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.000
if you play and say this is
what I get, this is typically

651
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.360
where I am. I want to
get here, and then you can kind

652
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.199
of build a plan off that and
what you need to do based on whatever

653
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.440
the golfer does. So it doesn't
have to be I think golf it's really

654
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.800
complicated, but it doesn't have to
be as as complicated I think as it

655
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.480
is, especially with the data we
have today, should make it much easier,

656
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.760
not harder, to get to an
answer of what we need to do

657
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.039
to get better. And it's typically
you can break it down, like I

658
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.760
said greens and regulation. You can
look at how many putts and like green

659
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.679
putts fairways hit. You know,
to get your fairways hit up. So

660
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.639
somebody say well, I always get
kicked back from somebody to say well I

661
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:29.280
hit I hit twelve fairways. I'm
like, okay, you probably drive it

662
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.639
one eighty two right. That's the
only way somebody's sitting that many fairways.

663
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:36.360
They aren't hitting it far right.
So then they run into that. Everybody

664
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:38.880
everybody does something different and you always
get comments from somebody, well my foursome.

665
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.639
Nobody does that. I'm like,
well, this is uh Arcos is

666
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:46.320
nine hundred million shots, not your
foresome. So remember that. It's a

667
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:51.800
it's a general look at things that
you can base some numbers off that are

668
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.679
pretty good, you know what I
mean. So it's just the general idea,

669
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.960
a way to break it down.
But I think going back, if

670
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.199
you want to become a better golfer
and you want to get down, go

671
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.360
back to a lot to what we
talked about, learning your face angle and

672
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.440
ball flight, those ballfight laws.
Get your learn to close your garden club

673
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.840
face so you can get a more
piercing shot that comes off lower with more

674
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.280
spin. You'll quit hitting behind it, no more tops. You'll get spin

675
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.519
and you'll hit you'll hit the greens, it won't roll anymore. But that's

676
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.639
all having a nice clothes cup face. Awesome. All right, we're and

677
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.320
you're still teaching at I teach up
at McCormick ranch back with the range you

678
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:36.000
got teaching bay there, and I
teach online Arizona, right, gott Arizona.

679
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.280
Yeah, so you can find me
an ejs goolf dot com. And

680
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:43.159
that's where basically all my stuff is
and do some I think you see me

681
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.559
on some social media stuff. Are
doing a little more. I'm doing more

682
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.679
YouTube stuff because I like long,
long format where I can talk like I

683
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.000
did here and get more in depth. I just feel like it's hard and

684
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:58.280
minute to three minutes to get out
what you you know, what you want

685
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.840
to talk about, and help you
absolutely the whole golf yep. Ye.

686
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:05.639
Well, it's great to talk to
you again. As we started out saying,

687
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.199
let's see where it goes. It
went and it was a lot of

688
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.960
information and a lot of helpful information
and insights and as always Eric, it's

689
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.320
a blaster to talk to you.
Thank you man, but love talking to

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