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How you doing out there? It's
me Tigger and Duc Wayne Duck. It's

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me Bunker's keep Bobcat. All right, y'all? Is it great? Your

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favorite firefly you desire? Hold the
old knock Gud. My name is Jim

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Cummings and welcome to tuned In.
All right, everybody, welcome back.

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This is another episode of Tuned In
with Jim Cummings. Today we have Austin

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Saint John joining us. Thank you
very much for joining us. My pleasure,

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my pleasure. Good to be here. Man. Yeah, we're here

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in New York City. Yeah,
are you? Where are you from?

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I'm an alien baby. Actually I
was born in Roswell, New Mexico.

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Yeah, but yeah, see you
can't see his third eye. He's always

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got that sea famous hat on.
Yeah, and a few other funky things

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you know, in places we don't
talk about, that's right. But yeah,

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dad was a marine, and I
grew up around the world, and

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I lived in the Middle East for
four years. Now I'm living in Dallas.

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I'm basically the hobo Ranger. I'm
everywhere here you go. I don't

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think youngsters today know what hobos are. No, you're right, it's sort

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of like being homeless but cooler.
Yeah, I think that's a good wit.

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Yeah. Yeah, they had the
sticks with the bag and yeah they

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would yeah they yeah, that was
cool. Yeah, And do you know

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what that was called? No.
I can't believe I actually know this because

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we actually when I was a kid
in Youngstown, Ohio, Lap of luxury,

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we lived about a half mile from
the railroad track, and guys would

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walk up and ask like, wow, we got right into this, didn't

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we. And they would ask for
do you have any hard attack or any

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bacon left over from blah blah blah, how about some tobacco? And my

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dad would go no, no,
and yes, but no, you know,

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and and they'd be back on their
way. And they actually had a

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bindle stiff, a stick with a
big rag with your stuff in it,

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just like in the cartoons. That
is so cool. I know I kind

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of thought it was. And maybe
not. My parents worked too is about

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it at the time, right,
because it's a little too much easy access,

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But damn, it just made for
a good story. I don't think

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I've told that story in about sixty
years. Bendyl stiff. That sounds like

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something that would have come out of
like Rumpelstilskins. Yeah yeah, well probably

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that's cool. Yeah, things I
didn't know. Yeah, introduced by Master

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Cummings. Yeah, lousy luggage,
but cool story. Yeah all right,

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I left my luggage. Oh there
it is that stick. Yeah. Oh

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man, well welcome, So glad
to have you. Yeah, I'm glad

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to be here. I didn't know
you had something so cool going on.

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Man, I'm glad to be a
part of it. Oh good. Yeah.

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Yeah. Well Chris is pouring everything
into it and he's crushing it,

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so right who ray who ray?
I like it all the time, every

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time out of the park. Yeah, yeah, I really liked the studio

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this is. We found this today
and it was like, man, I'd

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really like the setup in here.
This is a cool little rig man.

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Yeah, I go yeah, yeah, you even got the soundproof room.

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That's better. Oh yeah. We're
right across the streets too, from the

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forty forty Club. You know the
forty forty Club, I do not.

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It was like a famous club where
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a bunch of guys, like a
bunch of rappers back in the day with

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like you know, partying there and
it just closed down apparently last last year.

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Wow. Yeah, but it was
like an iconic part of New York

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little R and B history right there. Yeah, absolutely cool. Yeah,

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okay at me getting educated? I
love Yeah. Do you remember the Chappelle

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episode with Rick James, Rick James, the famous line that was will not

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repeat in front of my son,
but I love that. Yeah yeah yeah,

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Rick Dames. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's great. Yeah,

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right across the street there, Okay, all right, that's awesome. Super

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Is that where the word was born? I don't know, but I'm just

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glad the word was born because it's
a favorite of mine. Yeah. Yeah,

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man, You's signed a lot of
that at the table, do you

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you know, every swot and I
get, somebody comes up to the table

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and they asked me to write something, uh, virtuously creative, and every

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so often I'm like, okay,
just for you know, for entertainment.

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Usually it'll be you know, some
of my fellow fire department guys, or

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guys that you know, we're all
brothers of a different mother, and so

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anybody from the fire department I'll do
extra things for, or guys from the

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military, because yeah, I lived
with him for four years in the Middle

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East, so all rite extra special
things. Usually they're getting for an NCO

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or an officer who was a dear
friend. Yes, that they just need

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it written with extra color, so
that's right. Yeah, so it's good

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times. That's good stuff. Yeah
yeah. Oh man, your fire department?

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Are you a paramedic? So I
was a paramedic for twelve years in

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the Northern Virginia area, okay,
with the fire department, and then I

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spent four years as a medic attached
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in the Middle East. That's all
the department. That's awesome. So what

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is the transition like from show business
to that industry? What is that transition

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like? Well, I mean the
first transition from show business was I was

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homeless for six months. I know. So you were really in business?

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Oh yeah, I was. I
was on the biggest show in the world,

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making less money than people who at
the time worked the McDonald's drive through

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window. That is insane. Yeah. Yeah. We've heard some stories from

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you know, Walter Jones. They're
not quite as colorful as I am.

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Yeah. I tend to be a
little more here's the deal. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, well you you've got that. I mean, they all look,

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they all look to you kind of
like you're still the leader. I

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feel like the Godfather. Yeah.
Yeah, one day I'm gonna ask you

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for a favor. You know.
It's like it's well, you'll get a

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yes, there we go, there
we go. I can remember so my

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last the last time I came back
three years ago, I was on Beast

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Morphers and I came back and I
felt like the Godfather. I was like,

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these kids are now the stars of
the show now are still young enough

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to be my children. And I'm
looking at them and they're all still talking

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and griping about the same things we
griped about thirty years a while. It's

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like nothing has changed. That's progress. Yeah, except for the company,

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you know, and where it shot. But so many things really had still

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improved. It's just the pay is
still not great. But Hasbro has you

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know, they've They've done some cool
stuff. So I'm kind of curious now,

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Like in the most recent episode,
we kill Power Rangers killed somebody.

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It's like watching Winnie the Pood.
I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah,

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hopefully it was a It wasn't like
a nun or anything. It was

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a good one of the good guys
die. But they did it because in

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real life she was killed in around
two thousand and two thousand and one in

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a car accident, so they wanted
to bring her character back pay respects,

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and they did it in a great
way. She went out like a hero

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in uniform. And so now they've
they have officially ended well maybe not even

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ended, but they have paid respect
to her story. And then they turned

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around and one of the good guys, Steve Cardini's my counterpart after I left

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the show, jumps up with a
sword and drives it through the heart of

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Rita Ripulsa, the lead Batty battye. Yeah. And I was like,

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on my show, if I looked
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this is a kid show, Austin, you need to tone it down,

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yes, sir, oh boy.
Wow. Yeah. So now they've killed

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somebody and now they've got me.
They've shut down production for the first time

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in thirty years. Thirty years.
It's been the longest running live action show

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as far as I know, in
history, and they've shut it down and

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they're bringing it home and they've hired
on director Jonathan I twistle. If I

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have that correct, If the fans
are out there. Correct me if I'm

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wrong. I know you will.
Well, he has been tasked with revamping

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the show and has said he will
do so for Netflix, but I have

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no idea what he has planned.
What I do know is that hasbro owns

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Transformers, G I. Joe and
Power Rangers. Now wow, and then

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the last Transformers film, a little
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So it lets the mind wonder.
Now we've killed people, so we've

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entered kind of the adult arena.
Yeah, that bodes well. That would

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be kind cool. I would love
to see something like that smash up.

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Yeah, so who knows. Who
knows I'm going to start all sorts of

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drama. I have no idea if
any of that is one hundred percent true.

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I just know these are reliable rumors
from people I would trust. Oh

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there you go. Yeah, that's
not a bad phrase. Thanks, I

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gotta remember that. That was pretty
good. What did I say? Yeah,

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you know that's what I like.
Yeah? Oh good stuff. Man.

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Why do you think that they're making
that transition to now having death involved

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in the show. I think the
original fans are now. So my fandom

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ranges from age five to their early
forties if we include both extremes of the

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spectrum, and most of the key
fans are twenty to thirty five, so

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they've grown up and they're watching X
Men, They're watching you know, Marvel.

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Yeah, They're used to seeing some
action. They want to see the

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action, the fights, the big
explosions. We gave them the fights and

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the explosions and the action, but
with very little weight or realism. I

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mean, the martial arts were real
when we did it, but most of

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yeah, yeah, but I think
they're seeing that there's another bus they could

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be on, so watching what Hasbro
could do or who they could team up

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with, and if they could make
it, you know, maybe Power Ranger.

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You know, could you imagine the
Megazord from Power Rangers standing next to

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Optimus Prime arguing over who was going
to go first in battles? You know.

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Yeah. So I just I think
it's time for a bigger, darker

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side of it. And that's why
I created my comic and I'm going to

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create my own animated series. Is
I'm not going to wait on anybody else

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to do it. So I created
Redemption and fans are loving it. It's

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it's and a lot of attention and
the kickstarters are doing great, right,

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and it's fabulous. I just I
think the fans they love what they love.

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They fall in love with it as
children, and then they grow up

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and they're like, I wonder what
if they did it this way? What

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if they did it that way?
You know? So what if what if

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Pooh had been more like e or
you know, well, still you your

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voice, but if you'd been I
mean you you did it all. But

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what if Pooh had been slow and
e or had been well, Pooh is

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slow, but I see Okay,
however, I know what you're saying,

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right right, Oh you mean actually
slow? Yeah, okay, never mind,

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not like what okay, that kind
of not mentally slow, okay,

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okay, yeah, if that had
been Pooh and you know, take it

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had been like Rabbit or Kangaroo or
you know, like yeah, yeah yeah.

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I just I think people they love
to see these smash ups now,

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oh yeah, oh guy, And
I got to post the video that you

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and I did. I did a
video with Dora the Explorer, who you

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probably now. Okay, so my
kids watched some Dora back in the day,

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and I did a video with her
and it hit six hundred and fifty

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six thousand views inside of you know, a couple of days, it did

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grow people and it was just Dora
and I morphing. So now, so

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wow, as soon as wedding,
I'm just kidding. Yeah, we don't

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say that. You're allowed to say
that only in three countries and I don't

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know how many languages, but yes, wow. So it's just I love

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it and I think so many things
are getting intermingled. It just allows for

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imagination from the fan, from the
creators, from the personas behind all aspects

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of it to do cool stuff.
And it's not all owned by the big

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boys anymore, which makes it so
amazing for us. Yeah, because now

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it can be hours. Yeah,
and now you get to be a bigger

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boy. That's right. In my
own word, I'm special, that's right.

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You are definitely. Well. We
had an interesting little what was that

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a TikTok or whatever we did today? Yeah, we we traded worlds and

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that was fun. Yeah, it
was. It was dark Wing Duck.

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I can remember. Yeah, I
remember watching that as as a teenager,

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watching that rerun because my dad was
like, you can't watch the idiot box.

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You have one hour. Sometimes I
got two on Saturday and then it

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was outside until the street lights came
on. Yeah, me too. That

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was my call to get your butt
home. Yeah, and then you get

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the whistle was a marine and five
blocks away, I knew it was time

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to go. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, so it was. It was

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a different time. Yeah, but
my mom had the most God rest her

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soul. I couldn't love him more, but she would, Oh God,

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I'm going home. I did not
want to know. And I don't know

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who that was, and I had
to get home. I didn't want to

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hear that again. Yeah, you
sure, that's not you know it's but

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you know it's funny. I have
to go, uh anyway, you know

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I have no idea who that is? Yeah, yeah, I just what

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are the odds? Yeah? God, painful, painful childhood memories. Yeah,

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and now we pass it along to
our kids. That's right. Look

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there's one now. Yeah, Austin
Son is here, but he's off camera.

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He's taking notes. I'm gonna get
blackmails later, that's right. And

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speaking of that, speaking of calling
your kids, you have a unique whistle

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for each of your kids, correct, Well, yes, yes, I

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do, Yes, I do,
and I'm not going to do it for

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everybody here yeah, but my daughter
Olivia had a three note whistle. Uh,

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my daughter Rolly Jackson had a four
note whistle, Rollie Jackson and uh

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and then boom boom, Gracie had
one and boo boom was loul Lulu got

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the four daughters. I know,
I'm just lucky anyway. And so yeah,

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that that was, but yeah,
that was. That was that way.

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You know, if you're out in
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and they're they're all on the swings
and you're losing them, you know,

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and uh, it's time to go
home, and you really don't feel like

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sitting there waiting until they mosey back
over. Give them the whistle, get

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them home, yeh. And it
works and they come because they do not

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want to hear twice because they're embarrassed. Right. So see, yeah,

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there's a little parenting tip for everyone
out there, free of charge. Yeah

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yeah, all right, kids are
going please don't do that. Don't tell

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them, Yeah, don't tell them
me. I just break out the morphing

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voice and yeah that's right, that's
right. When I want to be heard,

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I can be heard. Yeah,
yeah, I have no doubt about

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that. Yeah they all know.
Yeah, you struck the bell on that

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one. They could almost part the
waters and not quite Moses. But I'm

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yeah, that's right, but you're
not done yet. That's right, oh

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man. And much time to defile
myself, that's right. Well, we've

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known each other for about at least
a good ten years through conventions and such.

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Yeah, and it's always been a
good time. It's always been a

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good talk. It's always been you
know, you've got we have very similar

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views on very similar things. Yes, and that's always good. It makes

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it a little more comfortable in the
world. It do, yes, it

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do. You know? We're both
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I don't know if I'm glad to
say that. I'm kidding that strapped

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is a funny word. Yeah.
Yeah, in today's world mean a lot

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of things. Yeah, I just
have a bell, that's all that's we're

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saying. I didn't realize that to
wear pants, I'm sorry, Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, Well
it's from the waist up, I hope.

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Yeah, all right, okay,
oh man, So what is is

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you've been writing? We've been producing. Yeah, and I was privy to

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the one show that I thought was
pretty cool looking and it was was it

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set and I want to say the
Western, the Old West, or yes,

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I don't know where things are.
It was it was a pre rev

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War concept that we started it.
We shot the proof of concept and we

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were going to do it as a
movie, and then we we just we

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really we fell in love with although
we need to redo the trailer, but

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we fell in love with the concept. And what we really want to do

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is we're in the process of turning
it into a series because pre rev War,

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that period of history is just immense
and there are so many incredible characters,

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and so we started with, you
know, some of the stereotypical well

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there's nothing stereotypical about many of the
characters, right, you know. Then,

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but we started with some of the
big boys, you know, from

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Davy Crockett and a few others,
to some strong female characters, because there's

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a lot of the history of that
war era, you know, where everybody

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talks about the guys and the warriors
and the Indians and the British and where

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were the French and what you know, all these things, but very little

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is known about what some of the
Christian women who came west with the men

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did in that era. And then
their men would go off to fight wars

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and they are literally left in the
middle of hell and a handbasket, surrounded

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by you know, not so friendly
people on all sides. That's true to

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survive. Yeah, I've seen that
touched upon once or twice. I think

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that's rich. It's it's pretty intense. So we have some pretty incredible female

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characters we're going to bring to life, and we're going to show some of

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their struggle, and we're going to
show a centralized version of the struggle from

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various tribes and what their story is
not the white man's take on engines,

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and you know, it's going to
be from inside the tribe. What were

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they doing, what were they thinking? And they weren't just worn with us,

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they were worn with the other tribes. And there's there's also some brutality.

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The brutality of the time committed by
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French and the Indians was unbelievable.
And so we wanna can you give us

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an example. Yeah, I'll leave
some of the tribe names out because I

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don't want to start that war right
now. But it was not uncommon for

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some of the Indian tribes at the
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getting there, where they would get
in take over your tribe. It was

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usually you know, like all wars, a landover resources or or of any

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kind, and if they found your
children, it became a game and they

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would tie their feet together and their
hand feet together, their hands behind their

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backs and they would swing them around
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trees. And it was I mean, that's just one example, the beatings

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with sticks. It was a savage
time for for all players. And you

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know, it just it's one of
those stories that nobody's going to walk away

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from this series going that was a
maz You're going to walk away from the

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series going, I don't know what
to think, because we want to put

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in the truth and the reality and
it's not going to be for the sensitive.

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If you've got sensitivities, don't show
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we're I mean everybody, no,
everybody was offending everybody back in that day,

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and usually with a gun or a
knife. So it's one of my

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favorites. I'd love to go back
to the director and a producer for that

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was Nick Kellys, And I've got
some other projects I shot with him.

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We did another film, faith based
rom com called A Walk with Grace that's

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on Amazon Prime. And I play
an angry high school wrestling coach who came

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home from the war with PTSD and
I'm the conscious, one of the conscious

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enforcers of a small town when the
big guy comes home and you know,

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he sold out to big town industry
and he's got to find his way back

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to his roots. So it's a
neat, little love story small towns.

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Shot in Lima, Ohio. It's
it's a great one. So we love

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that. Yeah, I remember talking
about that. I think I'm my mom

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used to live there. Wow.
Yeah, that's pretty neat. Actually North

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Lima, so it was a block
away. Yeah, yeah, you know

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it was. And I'm from Youngstown, so yeah. One of the guys

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I trained martial arts with is up
there, Seafood Shane Leary's he's a great

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guy. Oh wow, that's amazing. We give us the name of it

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again for the people. Yeah.
So it's called A Walk with Grace.

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You can find it on Amazon Prime
and it's a ton of fun. So

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you'll you'll see a side of me
that's a long way from the red Ranger.

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So yeah, yeah, yeah,
I do have at least one other

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skill. So and then I shot
another film with John Schneider called Trace Chase.

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John Schneider, you guys know from
Dukes of Hazzard. He's a great

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guy. He's a gentleman. He's
one of the few remaining gentlemen. He's

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not afraid to be a man,
and he's he's just I love him.

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And yeah, he's just lost his
wife. He's going through a hard time.

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But he's an incredible man, I
know, so I love and respect

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him. But we did a film
called Trace lea Chase, and it is

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also five miles from being the Red
Ranger. This was this is a rated

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R comedy with some drama elements,
and his son, a couple other great

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actors or three of the leads.
And he asked me if I would come

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in and play a super stupid Southern
cop and I was like, I was

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like absolutely yeah. And so he
started talking to me about some of his

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favorite characters. Of course, I
thought about Roscoe Pico Train because I grew

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up on Duke's Hazard. And then
he brought up smoking in the Bandit and

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I was like, wow, that's
like that's the cop like, that's the

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guy right there. Yeah, and
so you know, I did some some

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fun stuff with that, and basically, I'm too stupid to catch a teenage

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boy who had marital relations or had
relations with my wife. Oh. I

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find out about it, extra marital, extra marital. Yes. And as

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I'm trying to track down this kid, I find out that everyone else,

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oh, was acquainted with my wife
and damn yeah, her name was any

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Bitty and oh my god, I
mean I never met her. That's crazy

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sounds for it's just fun. So
oh, good for you, man,

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that's amazing. Yeah. Yeah,
I got a a question for you,

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Jim. We were just talking about, you know how Power Rangers is kind

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of going in like a darker,
you know, kind of direction with death

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and everything like that. What's the
darkest project you say you've worked on?

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Oh? Boy, well, it
wasn't Splatterhouse anyway. Then it was a

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video game, and I'm so sorry
to it ended up being very popular.

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They just wanted the nastiest, horrible
villain, and basically it was me and

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Josh Keaton. I don't even know
how to explain it. But he was

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just a kid who didn't have anything
special about it. But he broke into

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this house and there was a there
was an old wooden mask, like a

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voodoo mask or something on the floor, and when he put it on,

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he transformed into this big, gigantic
beyond Schwarzenegger, a muscleman who just hated

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life and couldn't wait to kill everything
in sight. And I said, okay.

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And it was called Splatterhouse. And
it's as far away from Winnie the

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Pooh as it gets. And I
mean, it's Splatterhouse. Needed the painted

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picture. It'll be in blood if
I do, because so say no.

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But yeah, it was. It
was really interesting that and the Mangler.

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It was a toe Hooper movie and
Stephen King wrote it worst movie you ever

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saw, really that you've never seen. Did everybody see it? Show of

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hands? No one's raising their hand, No one's raised No, But I'm

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gonna now, yeah, I know. Well, the good news is it

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was so terrible and it was it
was along these lines. It was a

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It came out right after Christine,
you know, the Car. Yeah,

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and that was the hell of a
movie. That was a good movie.

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And so they said, how about
the same thing, only it'll be a

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gigantic ironing board that big enough to
press a circus tent and people get sucked

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into it and get ironed to death, and then it gets ingested into the

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machine. No blood, no one
knows, no one knows who did it.

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And it was the Manglin. So
I was the voice of the Mangler.

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And so I came up. And
the first thing I did. I've

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told is before I don't on board
anybody. But I said, wait,

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what do you mean I got the
job? Da, I just want to

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hire me? And I said for
how much? And I go, I

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don't want to Well tell him double
and they go. She calls back,

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no problem. I go, sh
Now, I gotta do it. You

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know when they act, yes,
you go, oh damn, you know.

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And it was the guy who was
in the Silence of the Lambs.

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I'm sorry, I don't remember him. His name, Uh no, no,

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he was unfortunately the fellow who was
who had the buffalo bill. Oh

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he was yeah, uh huh yeah, oh that little sweetie. Uh he

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was in it. Yeah, you
know, and uh and so you know,

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we're we're doing this movie and and
all of the at the end of

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the movie, I just I finally
saw it, and I'm thinking all I

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could think of halfway through the movie
was unplug it. Unplugged the damn thing.

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It won't pull anybody in and iron
them to death, first of all,

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unplug it, you know. And
then and I said, oh god,

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you know when I was over and
see me, I was like the

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only person in the theater. I
think it was the premiere, and I'm

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watching the credits and at the ends
voice of the Mangler, Tim Cummings,

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Yes, thank god for that.
They misspelled Jim. How do you misspelled

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Jim? That's rough, Yeah,
but Tim and I got that. Tim,

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he's good man. He's going to
the bank with this one. Get

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out everybody. So yeah, that's
my that's my story. Oh yeah,

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pretty sad. May that never happened
to you. Oh god, I think

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you're safe. Yeah yeah. So
we met at these cons years ago,

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and it never ceases to amaze me
that you guys have been I think,

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off the air for a little while. But it's in different areas, isn't

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it. And it's big on cable
or this and that, and everybody loves

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this guy and rightly so, I
mean, it's so cool. It cracks

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me up. Is when different of
the Power Rangers are at the shows,

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they still think you're the boss.
That's kind of cool, you know that

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could be in charge of something.
Yeah, you gotta be. It's well,

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I think you picked a good one. Yeah. Nobody thinks money to

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poose the boss up squad, you
know, they go a yeah, it's

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good, try not to I'm talking
to Austin. Leave me alone, okay,

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fine, you know, good stuff, man, it is wild.

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I think, well, it's all
over Netflix and YouTube now because we all

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live we will all forever live in
infamy now on those channels. It's pretty

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neat. I think COVID did a
lot for all of our universes because people

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were stuck at home and they just
binge watched everything and then ran out and

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we're like, well here was my
childhood. Let me hit this too.

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So I think it's it's really done
a lot to bring back a resurgent for

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all of us and all the others
on the circuit. Yeah, so it's

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pretty neat. Yeah, you must
get that a lot too, because I

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get that a lot. You know, tons man, oh man. When

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I was a kid, I had
to run home and look with Tailspin or

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dark Wing, you know, and
it's it's a blessing it's blessing. It's

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pretty neat to see, Like people
will ask me all the time. There,

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you know, what's the greatest thing
about the show, And I think

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a lot of what I enjoy now
is hearing these kids who've grown up.

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They come back to us, and
Power Rangers is in forty countries and ninety

407
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.319
languages, so culturally, I hear
stories from all over the world. And

408
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.599
yeah, we're still bringing families together. And I know how many families sat

409
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.880
down and watched Pooh and Dark Wing
Duck and all that you've done. So

410
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.799
it's pretty neat for me. When
the fans come up grown man, you

411
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.240
know, oh yeah, big old
tough guy, tough and then they don't

412
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.720
know to look over there and you
know you have tears. Yeah, and

413
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.240
then they just immediately revert to age
five. It's one of the greatest things

414
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.359
in the world. And they just
they love it, and I love it.

415
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.599
They love it. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good way to put

416
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.440
it. It's pretty neat. I'm
in that. I'm right there with you.

417
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:03.279
You know who fun kit Man stuff
you did twenty five thirty years ago.

418
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.359
People are going thank you, thank
you, and I'm going no,

419
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.519
thank you. Yeah, yeah,
I'm so grateful for everything, you know.

420
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:15.200
I think once you start taking it
for granted, you're doomed. Yeah.

421
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.920
We've all seen those actors. Oh
yeah, and nobody wants to see

422
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.920
them for long. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're not going to mention

423
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.480
any names. But okay, never
mind that. Well yeah, yeah,

424
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:29.200
there's there's a list. Yeah,
there is a list. Oh man,

425
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.400
you know they'll figure out pretty soon
that they don't exist without their fans.

426
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:33.759
Yeah. So yeah, that's a
good way to put it, too.

427
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.400
Well, I hope you're writing these
down. These are these are all good?

428
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.799
Yeah, good expression. What was
one of your favorite memories working on

429
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:44.720
the show? For me, it
will always be the Unaired Pilot, the

430
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.920
original unaired pilot? No way,
yeah, unaired? Yeah. Well they

431
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.559
aired it later, but for a
long okay it was. We shot it

432
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.799
and I was I signed a contract
without an agent, without apparent present at

433
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:02.319
age seventeen. They have me post
dated to my eighteenth birthday, which you

434
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.599
know, no surprise there, and
we started filming. I walk on to

435
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:11.000
set. I'm eighteen and I was
not an actor, shocker. I was

436
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:12.839
a martial artist and I was a
teenager with attitude, which is what they

437
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.279
were casting for. So when I
walked on to set, the only thing

438
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.279
I knew was martial arts. You
know, here's a camp Walter. You

439
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:25.440
had him on the show. That
guy was a godsend and he's still one

440
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:29.480
of my dearest friends of thirty years. He had to show me. When

441
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.319
I say the basics of how to
function in front of a camera, I

442
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.119
mean the basics. People who were
filming on their phone today are infinitely more

443
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.160
than I did then. In other
words, no, the camera's over here,

444
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.319
Yeah, you know, you should
probably turn so the camera could see

445
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.319
your face. That'd be good because
I would just turn to talk to whoever

446
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.400
I was talking to and leave the
camera over there, and Walter would grab

447
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.000
me, throw an arm around it
and open me up the camera. I

448
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.279
learned those words, and he'd opened
me up, and I was like,

449
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.400
oh, yeah, that makes sense
what I meant to say. So in

450
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.960
other words, so they can see
me yet it yeah, right right,

451
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.920
because otherwise they you know, would
I hired a cardboard piece or something.

452
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:08.319
Yeah? Yeah. So it was
I was learning how to act, I

453
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.960
was learning how to be a man. I was learning everything. It was

454
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.359
just learning curve like that, and
it was it was amazing to go through

455
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.559
it. A lot of memories for
me there, that's great. Yeah,

456
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.160
what about you? What was your
first Yeah? Well me, the first

457
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:27.240
thing I ever did was this brand
new something that was called cable TV.

458
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.599
It was eighty four and a half
eighty five and I just made my first

459
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.480
demo tape. I shopped it around. Wait, actually, can you tell

460
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.680
us about your demo tape because that's
an interesting story. I haven't told it

461
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.799
on the podcast yet. Oh yeah, well, gosh. I made it

462
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:47.039
in the back of the video depot
in Anaheim Hills where I worked. I

463
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.640
was the manager and my buddy Chris
Potter was a sound engineer, and I

464
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.599
go, you know, I've been
thinking of making a demo tape for I

465
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.799
want to do voiceover. I've been
wanting to do this my entire life.

466
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:01.079
So you record people saying things,
and couldn't I be someone that you did

467
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:07.119
that with? And because I was
sophisticated and so we did it. The

468
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.640
gist of it was that there were
two guys sitting around watching television. One

469
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.319
was from Ireland, one was from
New Delhi. I was them. Then

470
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.799
I was all the TV commercials that
I was all the I was ilia this.

471
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.119
No, oh god, no,
I don't want you to spill your

472
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.200
guts. I want you to tell
me everything you know, you know.

473
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.920
And I just wrote it and it
was corny, and I sent it around

474
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.519
to Don Bluth and he said,
well, I'm not doing anything right now.

475
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.559
You know, a guy did Secret
of Him and he worked with Disney

476
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:42.759
Big Guy, and he said,
I'm doing a laser tag or laser he

477
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.079
was doing video games literally, you
know. And he said, but I'll

478
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.640
hold on to your tape. And
I said that sounds to me. That

479
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.000
sounded like, yeah, well I'll
never call you again. Yeah, And

480
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.119
even at that young age, I
knew that. And about a week later,

481
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.279
Frank Brandt called me from Left Coast
Productions and he and his partner Caroline,

482
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:06.559
Hey, we're gearing up to do
this new cable TV thing show that

483
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.720
had come out, and it was
called Dumbo's Circus, and it was the

484
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:15.480
people in costume, little people,
big people, and they needed voices and

485
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:22.599
they figured, well, the character
Timothy from the movie Dumbo was going to

486
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.119
be in it. But you can't
even have like a four foot mouse,

487
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.200
that's just a big mouse. So
they made him a lion. And so

488
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:35.480
I was Lyon on the Lion dumbos
Pow, and that was my first gig

489
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.480
that I ever did, and they
said they wanted it to be Timothy esque,

490
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:43.119
you know, like the Mouse.
And I got that job and all

491
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.160
of a sudden, we're doing two
shows a week and that took eight hours,

492
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.720
and I was working like fifty hours
a week at the video depot and

493
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.440
I ended up making about two or
three hundred bucks a week more in those

494
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.799
eight hours than I did in the
fifth D five ozho that I worked at

495
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.960
the video depot. And I said, you know what, I'm gonna do

496
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.960
this. I'm gonna do this shit
right here, you know, my friends.

497
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.119
But so there you go. And
then by the time, and it

498
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.920
was great because it took like a
year and a half to get through all

499
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.800
those shows, and at that point
I had landed an agent. So I

500
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:30.000
just went from working full time in
the normal world is to our world full

501
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.320
time and it's almost forty years and
now I get to hang out with you.

502
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:39.719
Yeah, so see that's progress.
We go, moving onward and upward.

503
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.360
Yeah. So yeah, man,
Sanford is Son moving on up Yes,

504
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.320
Yeah that was me. So yeah, I worked out so far,

505
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.360
so good. That is cool.
Yeah, yeah, so there's hope out

506
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.079
there right for everybody. I'm serious. The world's full of people that'll tell

507
00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:00.840
you know, don't be one of
them. Yeah yeah, I'm curious.

508
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.519
You're in your time as a paramedic. What was like one of the surely

509
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.320
you've seen some crazy stuff in those
years. What was like one of the

510
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:15.519
like most shocking things that you've seen? Well, I can see your mind.

511
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:22.000
Yeah, we were. We were
in a busy, busy call area.

512
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.079
I mean, what how are we
rating this show? It's open wherever

513
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.199
you're comfortable with. Yeah, okay, I think something that wants some people

514
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:35.880
away in agony, air tears,
Yeah okay. So I we get a

515
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:42.199
call and it's for a person who's
stuck in a fence. It always goes

516
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.159
out over uh dispatch, and we
never know because people will report things that

517
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.440
are nothing like what it really is. Dispatch calls us, you know,

518
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.960
oh, guys having a heart attack, and we get there and the guy

519
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.599
has gas, but he wanted an
ambulance now, so he tells dispatch his

520
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.559
art attack. So dispatch sometimes gets
some information. So we get a call

521
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:06.360
and it comes out over the radio. Medic fifteen to one adult male mid

522
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:12.199
twenties stuck in a fence. Okay, all right, all right. So

523
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:19.119
we get there and it's a construction
site and we pull up into the construction

524
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.119
site and there's I mean, this
is heavy construction, and we're like,

525
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:27.239
all right, what's this about.
I'm looking for a white picket fence or

526
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.639
this is what I'm thinking when we
go. Because it was a new area.

527
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.760
It was brand new industrial, so
I knew there was a housing area

528
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.920
right there. I just didn't know
about this new construction. So we pull

529
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:42.239
up and there's nobody around, Like, this is the most empty construction side

530
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.880
I've ever seen. So now we're
driving around. We've killed the sirens because

531
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:50.239
you know, in police work,
the big reddy lights are a clue.

532
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.159
So as we pull around the third
side, we're on the side seaside south

533
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.679
wall. We get around the south
wall and all of a sudden, this

534
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.199
guy comes blowing out the back and
he's pointing around the one wall. Of

535
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.840
course, we hadn't gone around.
So we get around the other side and

536
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.840
we pull up and there's a group
of guys piled around this fence that is

537
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:14.239
going in that's concrete and rebar,
but there's no actual fence yet, and

538
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:19.400
so there's a concrete base and there's
just rebar poles sticking up, and then

539
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.800
above it is scaffolding where they were
putting windows into this side of the boy.

540
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.760
And so we get around and all
of a sudden, the sea's part

541
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:34.239
and there's this guy and he's kind
of leaned over, but he's he looks

542
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.880
like he's just kind of leaning on
one like an old cowboy with a bow

543
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.440
leg, and you know, he's
just kind of head down and he's not

544
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:46.239
really looking up at us, and
I'm counting the spacing between rebar and he's

545
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:51.559
right where there should be another rebar
pole. And for those of you who

546
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:55.039
aren't familiar rebars, you know about
ya thick around. It's reinforced steel and

547
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.079
they use it to strengthen concrete and
other construction materials not known for being friendly

548
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:06.320
to the human body. And apparently
this guy was a story and a half

549
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.360
up and he was handing over a
window, slipped off and came down on

550
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:15.480
the rebar caught him inside the thigh
and went straight through his leg and out

551
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:22.679
his bum. And that was that
was an interesting one. So we had

552
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.840
to break out the saw and we're
now cutting the rebar at the base because

553
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.199
we don't remove him pale objects in
nine to one one unless it's including the

554
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.559
airway or things like that. Oh
and because that's surgery. You know what

555
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.039
if we pull it out and there's
a major vessel which right there for mooral

556
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.320
artery. So we cut the rebar
and we can't put him. We're supposed

557
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.039
to put him on a backboard to
protect his spine, but we can't straighten

558
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.800
him out. So we make him
as comfortable as we can and get some

559
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.119
fluids and ibs going in him and
some pain meds and get his vitals,

560
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:57.519
drive him into the trauma center.
They flew him up to George Washington Trauma

561
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.159
Center, the big one, and
the guy made it. I guess his

562
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.880
surgery went well. But that was
that was a wild one. Wow.

563
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.960
Yeah, I cannot imagine. That's
that is crazy. Yeah, seen other

564
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.880
guys as simple as they walk under
they take off their hard hat walk under

565
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.599
a ladder. And the guy on
the ladder had left the ladder, but

566
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.840
he had a four pounds weight up
there that they were using for projects and

567
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.280
it would take in however long to
roll and right as the guy walks under

568
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.239
the ladder, it pops off and
dunk. Wow, cranial fractures. So,

569
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.440
I mean it you can see it
all. You get nine to one

570
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.119
one, you'll see it all.
Eventually. Some will make you laugh.

571
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.519
And you know, you deliver babies. Yeah, I mean that's amazing,

572
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.679
you know, to bring another life
into the world. Have you ever done

573
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.519
that? Yeah? Wow? Yeah, I mean not a whole lot,

574
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.800
but in my in my twelve years, maybe maybe five six six. Wow,

575
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.800
So that was pretty amazing. And
some of them are high pressure because

576
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.199
the situation isn't good. But and
is that like on call, that's like

577
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.960
you go out and like somebody's about
to have a baby and you deliver it

578
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.960
that way. Oh yeah. Or
it could be traumatic, you know,

579
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:08.079
someone who's pregnant has an auto accident
and trauma induced delivery. Or it could

580
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.920
be that's something I've never even thought
about. Yeah, it could be uh,

581
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.079
miscarriage, it could be. It
could be a lot of things.

582
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.840
Yeah. Sure. Wow, you're
rarely bored, I mean when yeah.

583
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.199
Yeah. Sometimes you get called for
dental pain. Oh wow, Okay,

584
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.199
I'm like you need to you need
to call your dentist and I'm gonna not

585
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.639
have the police write you a ticket
for wasting resources, but don't call me

586
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.000
back. Yeah. Yeah, but
I do have a set of players.

587
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.480
We can fix that, right,
I mean, if you want, I'm

588
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.320
here right yeah. Yeah. Oh
man, oh man. You can see

589
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.719
it all. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think seeing all

590
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.360
that stuff desensitizes you after time?
Sure to a point. Yeah, you'd

591
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.960
almost have to. I hope it
would, yeah, right, because you

592
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.119
can't feel every single pain that comes, you know. Yeah, I almost.

593
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:58.519
I almost quit my first month.
One of my very first calls,

594
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.440
I get a call to a possible
drowning and it was it was two kids

595
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.559
in a pool face down when I
arrived and mom was on the couch naked

596
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.360
from the waist up with an IVY
in her arm. She'd been shooting up

597
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.880
and the neighbor couldn't swim, saw
the kids go in and called nine one

598
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.280
one. So we had, man, everybody showed up on that call,

599
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:23.199
everybody. We had a lot of
us, and so we lost one,

600
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.679
we were able to save one.
And I was almost done the month I

601
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.199
started. Yeah, So, but
I had I had a great assistant chief,

602
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.039
and he sat me down and we
talked and if it hadn't been for

603
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.119
him, I'd have been done then. Yeah. Yeah, so wow,

604
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:42.280
crazy stuff. You can see it
all. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

605
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.760
Do you think any of that emotionality
helps you with acting? Does it

606
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:52.199
like give you fuel in a way
to kind of dig into that when you

607
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.679
need to be emotional on screen or
something like that. Yeah, you know

608
00:41:54.719 --> 00:42:00.199
what I'm getting at. I have
a deep well for me. There are

609
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:06.719
a lot of things that I can
instant recall that can put me in a

610
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:13.519
psychological place to very quickly slip into
some pretty intense roles, which I think

611
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.320
surprises a lot of people because there
used to me being the stone. You

612
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:20.960
know, I was the rock of
the team. I was very monotone until

613
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.559
you know, the war cry happened, so Jason was he was the rock

614
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.360
of the team. But there's a
lot of If you watch Walk with Grace,

615
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.599
there's a scene in there that a
lot of fans have come up to

616
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:36.599
me afterward and they're like, we
had no idea. Yeah I didn't really

617
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:43.079
either until until I did it.
But it's just as long as you're pushing

618
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.599
the limits, you can find all
sorts of things. We all have experiences

619
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.800
in life that are deep for us
and for sure, well you bet touching

620
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:53.119
on those you can do some some
crazy stuff if you have the creativity for

621
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:58.440
yeah, boy, amen to that. Yeah, that just made me think

622
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.840
of a question for you, Jim. Have you ever shocked yourself? Have

623
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.440
you ever surprised yourself when you're working? Has there ever been in a moment

624
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.199
where you're like, oh, that's
something I've never done before, you know.

625
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:14.920
Yeah, Well it was Princess and
the Frog, and it was Ray

626
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.639
my buddy the Firefly down there in
or Love that movie. That was one

627
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.920
of my favorites. Oh good,
yeah, mine too, nothing to do

628
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:27.280
with me being in it, but
I uh, it took me and we

629
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:31.840
only did it once, thank god. But I had to die and I

630
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:39.559
had to really fight to hold on
and then just I just couldn't make it.

631
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.199
Yeah. And then look and I
almost made myself cry, which is

632
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:51.960
insane, and I and and then
and I thought it took me forever to

633
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.360
do, but apparently it was the
right amount of time. And I look

634
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:59.159
up and everybody in the booth is
going, you know, and oh,

635
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.559
wow, they really like me.
Uh, you know, it's amazing.

636
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:09.360
Yeah, and uh, and there's
a little firefly so yeah, that little

637
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:14.000
Firefly man, I love that little
guy. Yeah. I probably had a

638
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.000
tear in my eye. I bet
my my boy did. When Ready the

639
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:20.719
Firefly died, I was just like, oh, yeah, that's so cool.

640
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:22.960
My two older girls, they they
weren't able to make it to the

641
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.440
premiere for whatever reason it was,
and and and they said, well,

642
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.840
we're gonna go tomorrow. I'm gonna
go tomorrow, you know, Okay,

643
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.679
good. So they went tomorrow and
they both come in. You didn't tell

644
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.800
us you're gonna die? And I
said, well, I didn't want to

645
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:44.559
spoil, you know, surprise.
I said, you have a randy and

646
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.519
brought a couple of really cool songs. So what you died? It's like,

647
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.079
all right, fine, anyway,
I said, So I'm not going

648
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.119
to be in the sequel if there
ever is one, right, right,

649
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:59.079
unless they'd be like, wonder what
Ray would say? Well, you know,

650
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.800
then you come back and that little
cloud and that's right right, I'm

651
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:07.920
hoping for that. Ray got a
win. Yeah, yeah, Ray's Return.

652
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.440
It was a fun movie. I
love that movie. Well, thanks,

653
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.519
Ray was a big personality in that
film. Yeah, it was great.

654
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.840
I heard you did Scar in The
Lion King too, right, Oh

655
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.840
well, yeah, I did about
four or five lines that you know,

656
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:28.039
you call it sweetening. That's when
somebody says something to do what they said,

657
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.280
and then so I had to do
a couple of the four or five

658
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:37.400
of those. But all the talking
in the song called be Prepared is Jeremy

659
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:43.280
Irons and like ninety five percent of
the singing is me. And the trick

660
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:47.480
with stuff like that is first of
all, singing key and uh sounded just

661
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.360
like the guy you know that you're
the actor that you're supposed to be singing

662
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.599
for. That's all there is to
it, that's all there is, no

663
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:59.920
no, no, well yeah,
well see it's just like that. Yeah,

664
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.639
but it's that simple and that heart
I would say, yeah, you

665
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.679
know, I mean everybody's got an
actor too, they can impersonate. Yeah,

666
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:12.320
and that's pretty much the stretch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah man.

667
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.760
And Jeremy Irons is great and he
had a truly identifiable voice. Yeah.

668
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.119
So to just pop in there and
make that happen and sing and beyond key

669
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:23.800
yeah yeah, none of that works
for me. Let me tell you I

670
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:29.199
can't do that. Well, good, I'll do it. I know who

671
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:35.440
to call. Yeah, that's so
if any of the Power Rangers ever have

672
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.199
to sing? Got it? Yeah, right there, except for Karen.

673
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.400
I think it'd be kind of tough
to she can sing. She can sing

674
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.679
well, never mind then yeah she
was in a girl band back in the

675
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.199
day. I didn't know that.
Yeah, she can actually sang. Damn.

676
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.840
Yeah. People pay me not to
sing, Okay, that's good money

677
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.559
too. Yeah. Yeah, there's
there's places for all of us. Yeah,

678
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:05.840
yeah, yeah, you go to
the anti karaoke bars. You're a

679
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:10.079
min I would think it would be
Yeah, I could do that maybe.

680
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.000
Yeah. Man the Marshall mime.
Yes, that's right. Don't stand too

681
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:20.880
close. So i'mk not your block
man. Speaking of martial arts, when

682
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:22.719
did you get into martial arts?
How old were you? I was five?

683
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:28.280
Yeah, wow, yeah, I've
been at it most of my life.

684
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:30.599
So my first martial arts well,
I mean I trained with my father

685
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.360
in the beginning. He was heavy
into ken pole. It's been in my

686
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:38.440
family for a long time. So
Parker style ken pole trained through Parker trained

687
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:45.239
uh Ray Schneider, Ray Schneider t
train. Ray Schneider was trained by Dave

688
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:51.039
German. Dave German did the Black
Panther videos. He was really accomplished martial

689
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.400
artist. And then my father and
I trained with Ray Schneider and it was

690
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:59.519
and it was ken pole. Uh. Title title is the Japanese Art of

691
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:05.960
Strangulate. And they mixed in the
art of strangulation. Yes, so there's

692
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.480
an art to it, yes,
damn to being efficient at it. Yeah.

693
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:15.159
Yeah. So not with paint brushes, not that kind, No,

694
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.280
not that kind, no the other
kind. Yeah, There's not much I

695
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.000
could do with a paint brush except
wave it at people. So yeah.

696
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.000
And then from there my dad was
off at war a loot and I went

697
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:30.119
into judo. I've been through in
my life now about twenty three systems I

698
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:36.280
just got. I had another word
twenty four while other thousands now thousands.

699
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.039
And I just got my fifth black
belt. So I have three first degrees,

700
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:44.519
fifth black belt, yeah, and
two second degrees. So my second

701
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:50.079
second degree is in pylom Pao under
Sea Taigung Glenn Wilson, and I'm in

702
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:58.840
the process of picking up and learning
his system, which is essentially a Chinese

703
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:04.679
kung fu take on Parker style kimpo
that was recreated by Master Pie. And

704
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.719
he's out of Florida. So and
I've been inducted into the White Dragon Society,

705
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:14.119
which is hm hmm, that's that's
pretty cool. I never that I'm

706
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:22.599
unfamiliar. So it's an exclusive society
for accomplished martial artists who have held major

707
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:28.280
influence in the world over other martial
artists and population. So it's it's that

708
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.159
was a pretty neat thing. It
can't be like a cast of thousands on

709
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:35.960
that one. No, no,
there's not so. Domald Dragon Wilson's in

710
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.039
there. Cynthia roth Rock I think, is in there, and quite a

711
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:43.840
few other who's who, all of
which are more talented than I am.

712
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.800
So I've got a lot of work
ahead of me to to really get up

713
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:51.320
to the standard that I would like
to be in their arts. But it's

714
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.840
been it's been great to get started
with them. Well, I gotta tell

715
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:58.719
a story on you, man.
Oh yeah, it's a good one.

716
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.159
We we we were knowing each other
for a pretty good stack of years now

717
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:07.840
and maybe maybe say eight years ago
something like that. I don't know where.

718
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:12.599
I'm tempted to say Houston, but
we were. We were at a

719
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:17.360
convention and it was connected to a
shopping mall by an overhead walk, and

720
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:21.519
we're just shooting the breeze and man, I'm hungry. Yeah, let's get

721
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:24.119
something. So we were over there
and we're in the Hamburger Hamlet. I

722
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:28.480
don't I don't know where, you
know, he knows what I'm talking about.

723
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.199
All of a sudden, we're sitting
there and we're chowing down. We're

724
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:38.960
just sitting doing our thing, and
all of a sudden and everybody else is

725
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:45.679
running like hell in the other direction. I'll be right back. I got

726
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:52.559
to go kick someone's eyes. And
he goes walking out, calm as he

727
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.239
could be, and it reminded me
for all the world like that one Clint

728
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.519
Eastwood movie where he was chewing on
a burger and when the bad guys were

729
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.360
robbing the bank and he walks out, he's still chewing, and he,

730
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.920
you know, is like he goes, oh, you know, and he's

731
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:22.880
maybe you were packing. I don't
know anyway, you didn't see that,

732
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:27.519
No, no, no, but
he walks up like it's like it's mother's

733
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.840
milk. If it might have been. It was like somebody rang the recess

734
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:36.000
bell and he wanted to go play
tag. And so, uh so there

735
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.679
you go, walking out of not
false alarm, false alarm. I kicked

736
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:43.880
their ass from across the room.
And it was and it was I don't

737
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.639
even remember what it was, but
it was just a bunch of people mistaking

738
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:51.280
some damn noise or not and they're
running like hell, like god zera.

739
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:57.320
Really it was. It was good
stuff and I went, shit, I'm

740
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:02.159
hanging out with him. There was
a there was a couple of excellent additions

741
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:07.400
to that story there. Yeah,
thank you. I appreciated them. Alt.

742
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.920
Yeah. I did not say it
was gonna kick anybody, but yeah,

743
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.280
but yeah, there was. So
the story was I guess we found

744
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:19.239
out the next day when the police
came in. There was a guy with

745
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:23.639
you know, the great big heavy
duty metal uh dollies. And what kicked

746
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:27.960
it off was there was these two
guys downstairs who got into a fist fight,

747
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.440
and everybody was watching the fist fight, and then they screamed and yelled

748
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.719
and they broke up and ran in
different directions. Well about this time,

749
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.880
I guess one of them bumped a
guy coming up the stairs with the big

750
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:43.320
metal dolly. He drops the dolly
and you hear that pow pow is it

751
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.760
down the stairs? Well then everybody
thinks these two guys are shooting at each

752
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:50.480
other, and it was it sounded, you know, like maybe like a

753
00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:52.679
nine caliber. It was. It
was in there, and man, you

754
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:57.119
he's not lying. I mean people
were running like gazelle. It was.

755
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.280
They were jumping over stuff, knocking
over tables. I mean, they ran

756
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:05.079
like the world was ending. And
something didn't seem right about it to me.

757
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.039
I've heard a few guns go banging
my life, I think, and

758
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:12.840
uh so I wanted to go check
it out. And I also thought somebody

759
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.800
might be injured. Maybe I could
help with that too. And as I

760
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:21.039
got out there that you think I
was brave. Here's the part he didn't

761
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.440
know. As I come out there
and people are still running like you know,

762
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:30.079
Bandy from the Lion and walking holding
the like had to have been a

763
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:31.760
one year old. And she's got
a three year old with hers, this

764
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:37.039
little latina, and she's walking like
as calm as I am walking away from

765
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.159
it, all in the same direction. But she's just walking. She's like

766
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.800
what why ya, why ya?
You know, telling her kids to let's

767
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:47.039
go, but calm. And I
looked at her after watching all the big

768
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:52.000
guys run like their butts were on
fire, and I come up to her

769
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.719
and I was like, you gonna
make kip us old what happened? And

770
00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:00.880
she's like no, say no lamente, you know. And I was like,

771
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.400
oh, okay, all right,
less or heart. I hope that

772
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.119
wasn't commonplace. She was good to
go. So she walks on and I

773
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.119
come walking out and I'm looking over
and there's nobody, you know, I

774
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.440
don't see Rambo. There's no you
know, bad guys. And I was

775
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.400
like, well, I want to
go finish my lunch. So yeah,

776
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:21.840
yeah, I went back in and
I sat down and I think we finished

777
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.960
eating before we did. So it
was you would have thought, you know,

778
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.960
yeah, you would have people were
killing each other. Yeah, yeah,

779
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.440
so it was nothing crazy. Yeah, thank god, we'll take it

780
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.760
something. Yeah I remember that.
Yeah, that's good. That's a good

781
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.760
story. Yeah, I forgot it
was. It was a good time.

782
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:51.920
Yeah, I love a possible horror
show. Conceivable mass murder. That's a

783
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:59.119
good time. I'll tell you what, O Doug, good times there was.

784
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.000
There was another actor with us,
who shall remain nameless, who was

785
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:07.559
the first to dump his chair,
knock over his plate and he ran out

786
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:12.000
through the back of the kitchen of
the restaurant, and because I remember,

787
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.760
Oh god, do you remember who
that was? I'm tempted to say,

788
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:20.559
was this someone who ranged in power? Or no? No, no,

789
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.679
this was someone who fought wars in
the stars. Oh yeah, yeah,

790
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:30.280
great person. But I mean I
literally turned to hear the bang bang bang

791
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.559
people came in like Gazelle ran over
everything. And then I turned around and

792
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:40.880
it was hopping the cabin. Yea, YadA, Stange left, you know,

793
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.440
he was out of there. Yeah, it was. It was pretty

794
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.239
entertaining, man. So I'm gonna
have to give him some grief when I

795
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:51.119
see him again, be like,
bro, he just left me to die.

796
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:55.679
He's gonna be like, Yep,
it wasn't Han Solo, right,

797
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.840
No, No, it was us
it forward that's right, that's right.

798
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:10.320
No, I've made that up.
I think that's well good stuff man.

799
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:16.159
Yeah. So is there anything you
need people out there to know? For

800
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:20.480
sure? I mean, even if
it's just cons and this and that and

801
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.599
sure. Yeah. I've just re
released my my major website. So if

802
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:29.360
you're looking for my con site or
my con schedule, it's there. You

803
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:34.440
just go to www. Austinst dot
b i Z and you can find my

804
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.119
con sites, my e commerce,
my clothing line, my jewelry line.

805
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.559
You can find my comics there.
Clothing line. I didn't know about that

806
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:45.599
one, Yeah about that. So
i have some ranger oriented clothes. And

807
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.960
then I'm building a warrior line where
I will go back in history, you

808
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.199
know, from pre Greek days as
far back as I can. I'm gonna

809
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:59.800
have famous quotes from warriors of all
ILKs, including the Terrible Ones. Wow,

810
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.400
Hitler was you know, a demon
on steroids, but he had some

811
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:08.480
pretty good one liners, you know, So everybody from the great Ones to

812
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:15.440
the Infamous and Terrible Ones. And
I'm gonna have quotes and their languages put

813
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.719
up in Japanese, English, Russian, and Greek whatever it was, and

814
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:22.039
then in English. And I'm gonna
have some kanji kana done and some various

815
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:28.239
other artwork. But the point is
to look to our past, to leaders

816
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:31.880
both good and terrible, and take
from them what you can. I mean,

817
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:36.440
Bruce Did is gonna be in there. Chuck Norris, who's one of

818
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:42.519
my guys that I looked up to, so I'm he's incredible. He's an

819
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:47.239
incredible guy, one of the last
real gentlemen out there. So those I

820
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:51.519
just started releasing there's a few on
there and you'll see it. It's in

821
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.000
Kanji, which for those of you
who don't know what that is, it

822
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:59.039
can be Chinese, it can be
you know, any Eastern Asian writing.

823
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:01.159
And I'm sure I'm gonna get on
this too. I don't write in the

824
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:05.719
stuff. I just pay people to
do it better than I can. So

825
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.639
there's gonna be cool translations. And
that's the Warrior line I'm going to continue

826
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:14.840
to build out, and then so
many, so many things that I'm working

827
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:16.239
on, but you can find almost
all of it there, from my comic

828
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:21.199
books to my schedule to close and
you know whatever, whatever you have to

829
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.360
just start there and you can you
can mosey on and enjoy it. I've

830
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:29.960
also created a streaming network WOW helped
to create. I've one of the founding

831
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:32.320
members. We started about five years
ago. It's called Fanword f a n

832
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:37.639
w ar d dot com and we've
got Walter Jones on there. We've got

833
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:42.519
the original or one of the original, Peter Pans, Jeremy Sumter, and

834
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:46.440
we're gonna be bringing on some other
major players between now and the end of

835
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:51.840
the year. So if you're into
doing comic cons, but you can't get

836
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.199
to one fan word is what's going
to save you. You'll find actors from

837
00:58:55.199 --> 00:59:00.519
all around the world who want to
share their voice, much like you on

838
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:05.480
a podcast, but we do it
a bit different. So maybe there's something

839
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.320
we can coordinate. Yeah, you
know, that might be cool. We've

840
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:14.159
got several thousand paying subscribers right now
and we're growing. We're growing quickly.

841
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:16.519
That's awesome. Yeah, yeah,
that's pretty neat. Yeah that's really cool.

842
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.519
Yeah, it was really cool.
I got other stuff I just can't

843
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:23.039
think of right now. Yeah.
Yeah, before I forget, I wanted

844
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.119
to ask you when you were talking
about your martial arts background and everything,

845
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.239
So forgive me if this is a
dumb question, but I'm fascinated by it.

846
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.400
So, like I remember seeing this
movie Kiss of the Dragon with Jetle

847
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.960
Do you ever see that movie?
Probably I don't remember, And like the

848
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.320
Kiss of the Dragon was like he
just puts a pin in like one of

849
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:45.960
this guy's vertebrates and it stuns him
and then like eventually it leads to like

850
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.280
a slow death. So that's one
touch too, like one from the Armpit

851
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.360
where we get you with an yeah
I do I have. And then there's

852
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.800
like the kill Bill, you know, the classic where she hits some what

853
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.920
is it like the five fingers or
death or whatever? The any is there

854
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.280
any sort of like reality? Is
there anything like that in martial arts where

855
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:07.079
it's like just like a combination and
you hit the certain nerves and then it

856
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.880
like leaves somebody paralyzed or facing certain
death. So I would love to tell

857
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:16.159
you that I've seen it or done
it. Actually probably not want to tell

858
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:20.760
you what I've done it, you
know. But while I've heard all the

859
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:24.480
same cool legends and I've seen the
films, I don't know of anybody that

860
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:31.800
would say they can you know,
and you die of whatever magical mischief.

861
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:36.320
I'm not going to tell you that. Because one of the other things that

862
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:40.000
I work on is called chigong or
qigong, and the British called it chigong

863
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:45.480
because they actually couldn't pronounce the qi
when they were in China. So it's

864
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:47.880
the same thing, just different pronunciation. And it's a movement of energy.

865
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:53.920
Did Chinese argue that while you have
flesh and blood and bone, she she

866
01:00:54.239 --> 01:01:00.519
is the invisible life force that travels
throughout your body through meridians. And I

867
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:04.039
do work with chi and energy,
and I will validate that is one hundred

868
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.239
true. And there is the healing
side of chi and then there's the martial

869
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:13.559
side, so it can be used
to strengthen blows. Am I a marshall,

870
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:19.000
you know, master in the world
of chie Now I'm moderate. I'm

871
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.880
better at the healing side, but
I have used it to help break boards

872
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:29.079
and cinderblocks and things like that with
hands and feet. But I don't know

873
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:35.199
anyone who could kill you, you
know, with the on the forehead.

874
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:39.519
I have seen soft touch knockouts.
So a soft touch knockout is you get

875
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:43.039
a guy who and you look at
their stance, because it's about how the

876
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.280
body receives energy. And all I
want to do is, rather than hit

877
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:51.199
you in a position where your feet
are set to absorb that energy, is

878
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:54.480
I want to strike you in a
fashion where the energy travels between your legs,

879
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:59.039
because now that energy can't go to
the ground, it has to pass

880
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:02.000
through you. And there are areas
like especially along the jaw, which are

881
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:07.760
loaded with nerves where if you find
the right guy who's standing soft in the

882
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:12.320
knees and you can pass that energy
through you, and you can get some

883
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:15.639
soft ko's with stuff like that.
That's interesting. But that's the closest I've

884
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:20.039
ever seen to you know, Chet
Lee's Dragon Killer super duper stuff. You

885
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:25.639
know. Well, I always was
curious about Bruce Lee's one inch knockout.

886
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:30.239
That's very real. Yeah, I
mean that because you see him doing it

887
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:35.199
and you're going, did that guy
fall? Just did? He? Was?

888
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.400
He just going along with the program, you know? But I mean,

889
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.559
but it would be like and then
the guys on the ground. So

890
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:45.119
that's an iteration of what I was
just talking about. A soft ko Bruce.

891
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:49.280
I mean, I never met the
man. I never much less trained

892
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.599
under him. Yeah. Yeah.
His martial art was Jit Kundo and he

893
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:58.920
was a brilliant martial artist. Hands
down. The one inch punch he taught

894
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:02.079
and it was the way that I've
learned it. I learned before I knew

895
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:06.719
any work with energy, and I
never learned it for a ko. I

896
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:09.800
never learned it for the face.
But it was designed for very close quarters

897
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:14.559
combat. To my understanding, I've
used it, and the way that I

898
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:17.639
teach it is close quarters to the
body, and you set it up so

899
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:21.880
if this was the abdomen, and
this is where you would set your fingers

900
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:27.599
and this is the chest wall.
Your strike comes from there, and it's

901
01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:32.360
a great explanation or example of physics. So it's about building energy from the

902
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:37.719
toes all the way up through the
body and then just letting that boom strike.

903
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:44.840
And Bruce was wild at that stuff. How he did it exactly?

904
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.800
I would love to know. I
know how I teach it, and it's

905
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:51.360
pretty In fact, Zach our agent
he didn't believe in it, and he

906
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:53.719
asked me to show him, and
he'll tell you that I sent him about

907
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.920
seven feet across the room the wall, and then when he woke up he

908
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:01.480
said, okay, never mind,
I got it. I didn't knock him

909
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.760
out, but but he'll tell you
the story. You should ask, Okay,

910
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.519
I will, I will. Good
times. So, yeah, I

911
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:13.079
wish I knew all the cool stuff, you know, like I wish some

912
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.360
of it was and maybe it is. There may be a guy out there

913
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.400
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I don't know.

914
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:23.199
I think that thing you can do
is good enough. It sounds pretty cool.

915
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:28.280
I'm in there's always somebody at the
party that's had a beer is like,

916
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:31.280
would you show me, and I'm
like, no, no, this

917
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.800
is for the sound. Come on, hit me with a hammer. No

918
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:39.599
not. You know, when I
was younger, I may have obliged that

919
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.159
one too many times. Yeah,
well I don't. I don't do it

920
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:45.880
any you know, a fecal matter
occurs. Yeah, yeah, you know,

921
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:51.320
AKA shite happens, that's right,
man. Well yeah, well,

922
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:54.960
jeez, I don't. I just
realized I was going to tell everybody to

923
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.679
come see us tomorrow, but they're
not going to see this tonight. So

924
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:02.440
but come see us tomorrow anyway.
Yeah, or the day after wherever the

925
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.960
hell was Saturday, Sunday eleven eighty. We're bound to be someone somewhere or

926
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:15.159
someone knowing stuff about things and people. Oh man, this has been great.

927
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:16.360
Yeah, thanks for having me.
You guys got a great sake.

928
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:19.840
Enough, thank you. Yeah,
I'm impressed. This is pretty cool.

929
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.039
Well, Chris has got it going
on. He's the maestro. Yeah.

930
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.719
I do my best, you know. Yes, Yeah, I'm still learning

931
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.480
a lot, still learning a lot, and I hope that never changes.

932
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.880
I never plan to change that nice. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good.

933
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:38.639
That's a good non curse. There's
the opposite of wish and I died.

934
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:42.039
Thanks. Yeah, thanks, I
appreciate that. We'll call me back

935
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.719
anytime and anything I can do to
help you guys ever, let me Yeah,

936
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.320
thank you so much. That was
awesome, Saint John, that was

937
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:50.159
awesome. Master Cummings, thank you, brother, Thank you so much.

938
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:54.760
All right, thank you everybody for
joining us. That was another episode of

939
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.800
Tuned In with Jim Cummings joined by
Austin Saint John. Thank you so much

940
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.559
for watching, and be sure to
like and subscribe. Remember you can find

941
01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:06.159
bonus content on Patreon and of course
we're on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all

942
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:10.599
that good stuff until the next episode. Thank you very much. Jim,

943
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.360
Austin, thank you so much.
Thank you, thank you.