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I'm Adam Oslin. We got Chef
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update can join us at some point. But we do have a special guest

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joining us today in Law Murray of
the Athletic. I am the Law.

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We love him. He does fantastic
work, the definitive write ups on Clippers

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reports, trade deals. The Athletic
is where you can get it all.

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He's the reason I sign up there. He took the baton from Jovon Bouhan

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and has been off and running with
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for doing this today and thank you
guys. I'm really happy to give us

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yes talk some hoops. So coming
up, we will get into the draft

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with Law. But first, there
was some news that broke earlier today,

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and it was regarding Bradley Beale,
and I'm not saying it was out of

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nowhere because a lot of people anticipated
this, but it sounds like if they

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are going into a rebuild mode,
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And it just so happens that Michael
Winger now is in control of all

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basketball operations for the state of Maryland, so that his new title Basketball's are

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of Maryland. I think you're selling. I think you're selling is short because

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they got a whole they got a
whole region. Man the district. He

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probably got da over there too.
Yeah, the DMV, that's probably Yeah,

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it's probably the whole thing. So
law, how realistic is it for

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the Clippers to bring in a guy
who's making almost sixty million coming up in

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the next couple of years on this
contract. Yeah, y'all see the roster

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the Clippers right now, she's asking
me to do like y'all, y'all,

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y'all man at Paul George and then
y'all want to look at Bradley Bill Zummers

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and get excited. I am not
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or I don't know who's mad him
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I mean, look, I love
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I knew when Michael took that job
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a matter of when, not if, that conversation happened. Like we didn't

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even we didn't even get to draft
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break because you could, you could. You didn't need it to be Haley's

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common to see it like Bradley's an
exceptionally talented player. The contract speaks for

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itself. Unfortunately, the contract speaks
for itself, like what are you asking

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for your man? Like Bradley has
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but in terms of their billion terms
of like where Radley has been shooting the

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three from, as far as the
defense, as far as so much like

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Bradley, he hasn't even been the
guy that he was when he laughs at

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Russ familiar, you know what I'm
saying, Like he had Russ for one

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year, that dude dropped thirty one
point three points. That dude left,

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and ever since it's been like I
need your Russ ye, I mean you

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had to defer to Kuzma time.
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yeah, it's like congratulations. Washington
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Offenses. Fight three guys dropping twenty
a game, it was, and it

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was a close battle between Brad's,
Brad's Wizards and his twin up there in

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Portland, Damian Lilith, who I'm
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You know, those dudes had three
twenty point scorers and wanted to get

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them. So I mean, like, I'm no, this is the reason

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why I'm so conservative when it comes
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It's like, there's a reason these
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are better off. There's a reason
to Clippers built the team that they built.

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So if you can get guys,
if you can get Bradley Beale for

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the minimum, hell yeah, you
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not trying to attain it too long. So that's that's my thing is.

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People kept saying like the proverbial cost
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the literal cost, though, is
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Like there's no way to move if
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money with this new CBA. It
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of, especially from a finance perspective, how it would happen. Like this

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man is to fifty seven million dollars
in three years he has he has that

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option, and the cap goes up. Okay, not that it goes it's

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spiked for kad. How much Katie
making this year? Tell me how much

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Katie's making this year less than Bradley
Beale, Le's for damn sure, forty

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just under forty three points there,
that's it. Yeah, which you want

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me to talk about? So no
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he's not going to take Marcus Morrish
Roco Terrence Man beat the zoo Bots.

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Look, Michael Winger would be an
executive the year next year if you were

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to be able to pull that off. You don't even need to do making

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the playoffs be the first executive year. I guarantee you without actually making the

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playoffs, just for getting off of
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that would be. That's true.
The former employer thing again, another

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thing where people think it's like a
pipeline. So the beal thing not going

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to happen. The guy who wants
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He's not here, so we're gonna
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kind of does what we know about
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yes, what we know about it? Like we don't know, yeah,

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like we're kind of it seems like
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It's yet again margin moves that seem
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do. If they're gonna do anything
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that especially a bad thing. It's
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right now with what these aprons and
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um, you guys can still hear
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Actually sounds better. That's yeah.
I'm trying to switch up with the album.

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Like here we all you know,
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anything in a minute. Um.
But the interesting thing is like the draft

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is next Thursday, and the teams
forget media like I don't, I don't,

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you know, I'm not trying to
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teams themselves don't even have the full
document that is going to govern how contracts

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are done and how the league is
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lifespan of this collective bargaining agreement.
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know, like that's the whole day, you know, the whole part of

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being able to manipulate things is to
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You know. Um, I got
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literally have people read it over.
It's like, how do you think Andy

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Ellisburg does his job in Miami,
okay, like, because that dude just

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citizen reads and they come out on
top. Man, it's like you to

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Miami, he's like almost the playoffs, I bet you're not. We're not

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doing again next year, like,
and that is critical. So I feel

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like it's going to be a really
silly summer because you know, how much

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is a guy going to be worth
this year When we go back to three

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years from now, what's that going
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what we do know is that the
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realities of what we expect to see
from the CBA, and that means that,

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you know, I hope you enjoyed
your Norman Power Robert Covington trade acquisition,

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because he ain't getting that no more. You know, none of those

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none of those home run anymore.
Hey. The good thing is we ain't

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got to worry about a guy like
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So, you know, always a
benefit, there's always silver linings, are

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right, and and same thing with
the biomarket. You know, y'all hate

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it buyout acquisition. Some of y'all
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in general. I'm not talking about
anyone specific, you know, but

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obviously it was polarizing what happened at
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Um, guess what you gotta worried
about? That no more like biomarket will

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not have nearly the same options or
nearly the same kind of teams dipping in

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to get some of those options in
the future. What does that mean for

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the Clippers? It means that you
can't You gotta do a lot more work,

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and you have to be a lot
more successful at things that you aren't

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great at, namely the draft.
It's easy to say, hey, we

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got Terence Man at forty eight,
Well, what you're gonna do at forty

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eight this year? Because that's exactly
the same kind of pick you got was

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the last time you were excited about
the Clippers first round pick. Everyone loves

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saying, man, we need a
trade for picks. One of the best

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parts about the Paul George trade is
that they didn't have to do anything like

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draft Jerome Robinson again. Okay,
so the Clippers have to win in areas

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that they have not been consistently good
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the fact is, I don't have
to say that. That's what the team

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understands. That is the vibe going
into this draft. That's what I can

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tell you. They understand that you
need to get cheap talent that isn't just

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going to look good, you know, in the locker room and off the

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bus and then the G League like
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me, that doesn't just mean whoever
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It means guys like Jason Preston and
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if they'll be on the team next
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need to be in a position where
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shout out to the Showcase Cup champion
Ontario Cliver killing people this year. Hey

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Moosabo, that dude isn't on the
Grammy trip and they make the G League

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playoffs this year. Real talk,
Well, guess what the dudes need to

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show what all that development will translate
like to the big team, especially if

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certain things go a certain way in
three and C and in the trade market

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as soon as next week before we
get more into the draft and the thirtieth

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pick and all that and maybe this
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Chuck mentioned we won't talk about Damian
Lillard because it looks like they want to

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double down with Dame and try to
find that small forward. But you talked

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about this recently on an article.
You talked about the situation with Paul George

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and them dangling the number three pick
and Simons. Maybe something else. Is

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that something that could happen or do
you still feel like the Clippers are committed

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to two one three? They're committed, man, They're They're They're They're committed

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in a vacuum, and they're committed
with the all terrier factors that include that

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stadium that you see when you go
in and out of lax Like And I've

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thought about this. Uh, Sam
Desini is first of all, he just

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dropped the Bible as far as I'm
concerned as far as getting ready for this

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draft and shout out to all the
work that he's been doing leading up to

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this point. You know, this
is a draft guru super Bowl. I

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used to work with Jonathan Givoni,
Mike Schmidtz who ironically up there in Portland.

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Uh, you know I used to
work with those news I'm just letting

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y'all know, like this is a
celebration for them. I wish we cover

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the rest of the league like we
cover the draft. We get into basketball,

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be getting into players, we get
in the fits, we get into

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what makes a guy tick. We
get into what's real and what's not when

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you look at statistics. So with
that all that said, like the Clippers

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are in a we're come, we're
trying to do this. Uh Like,

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as much as I Sam loves Scoot
and so like, to be honest with

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you, we're talking about number three
in Portland. Like I know Charlotte could

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say to themselves, you know what, a wing makes more sense than a

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guard. But um we we're gonna
laugh at whatever Charlotte does. Um Like,

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let's just be real, Sacramento Kings, you have graduated and the Charlotte

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Hornets are now the team that we're
gonna believe in the next guy day drift,

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the next the next pick after the
dude day draft, I mean,

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it's Jordan's still there or not,
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I mean, anytime you got one
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in, you two different people as
far as I'm concerned. So you know,

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for for any means of convenience.
Jordan's inn and out. That's a

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different type of last dance, That's
exactly. And so, um, I

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don't even believe Scoot would be available
at three, Like Scoot is the better

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player if you're talking about anyone else, if we're talking about Brandon Miller for

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talking about um, you know,
uh fuck cam went more Like I just

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don't see Charlotte at like you're you're
going to find fits and LaMelo ball Terry,

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Like you can trade Terry's here,
just like you could trade Gordon Hayward.

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And so I mean it's Brandon Miller
a better fit. Yeah, but

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it is Brandon Miller is telling a
Scoot Hender shouldn't know. Like that's just

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really what it comes down to.
And so we're talking about Paul George and

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what Portland winds up doing. Now
here's what's interestioning about Portland. All that

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noise about the number three pick.
They would love to trade the number three

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pick and get people to think that
Scoot Henderson is a guy that's going to

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be available with that pick. Hella
salty, that was not Scoot there,

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right, That's true. That's a
good point. Yet last year. This

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is lying season. Okay, this
is why I bring up what I bring

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up about lying season. I love
it. You're hearing all the smoke from

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Portland. Yeah that's from Charlotte.
Oh, Charlotte's gonna draft Brandon Miller.

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Why the hell would they do that? Like, besides the fact that what

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we already know about Charlotte, you
know what he's like, Oh yeah,

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I can justify them doing something like
that, but like, let's be real,

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it is Portland's interest to generate interests
for a trade for a guy who

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might not be scooted. And I
don't believe Scoot's going to be there.

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I really don't believe it. I
would believe it if Scoot was just,

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you know, a good prospect on
the same level as Whittemore or the Thompson's

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or Brandon Miller. He's he's not
like have you seen Scoot, He's number

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one to shoot? But like he's
like the Marquel Foltz version of can't shoot,

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as in, he needs to shoot, damn it. Like that dude

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is that that dude looked like a
Transformer? Okay, like straight up and

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now, and so like Portland would
love to be able to get a market

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and make a trade that you know, regardless, just so if he's name,

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Um, but I don't think that's
gonna happen. Now, let's say

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that Charlotte does mess around, they
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sudden, it's like, hey,
again, why wouldn't Portland just pick Scoop?

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Dame is thirty grede. He's had
injuries, both legitimate and you know

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the tank version that we saw this
past spring. Um, he's a small

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guard who is merely a good playmaker, right Like, Dame has always been

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a better producer of points and shots
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Dame is tough and he'll defend his
guy. But is he you know,

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is Dame mean Lillard's talents making you
a great defense? No? Like,

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Portland's been one of the worst defenses
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row. Now something like that,
right, Uh, that is like just

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draft Scoot damn it. Do you
know who Portland's shirt on a shirt?

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Do you know who their backup point
guard was? Absolutely? Keyan Johnson.

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Keia Johnson was the question. It
wasn't your question. That's why that was

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the last we're not drafting s we're
keeping and we're keeping Dane because of Keyan

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Johnson. Tell me is that what
you're doing. There's nothing in the rule

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book says says you have to start
a guy because you drafted him top three,

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Okay, And so like, if
you're Portland, it's like, sure,

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you love to get a trade,
you love to get a Paul George,

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but also, who are you fooling? Like you're you're you're hoping that

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if you can't draft Scoot himself,
that you can find a trade for not

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Scoot. So if you're at the
Clippers, and I'll be real like,

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if it's Scoots, it's like,
that's that's a pivot. It's a pivot

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that I don't believe they'll make just
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Lou the best chance to succeed,
Kawai the best chance to succeed. I

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mean, Scoot is great for the
future, but you're not trying to win

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for the future. You're trying to
win a championship because Steve Baumber wants a

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championship, And you know that's why
this question is out there. It's like,

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are the Clippers close? But I
hope we get along to this podcast

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about that part of the narrative.
Sure, it would be the best move

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for the future, but this is
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right now. If they were,
I'm not sure if t would be the

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coach. I'm not sure if certain
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offense. You know, this is
a team that believes that they can do

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this, and I am on their
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way as well. But yeah,
Scoots out there, then sure, But

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I just I'm just very hesitant to
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whole lot more than what we're talking
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there. Yeah, that's gonna call. We're gonna take a quick break because

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we're gonna talk about exactly what you
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Clippers are a team of right now. So where are they right now?

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You're on clips and if you can
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Law, let's get into it.
Adam was just applauding you after you said

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that will continue and will continue to
after the entire break. Need to focus

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on winning now and seem to be
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Adam, we know how he feels. Is it just health? A lot

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of people there was the great Pine
article in the Ringer about how again it's

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the team is built. Well,
we have a fantastic coach, we have

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two in three. When they're healthy, we know what they can do.

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Is it all just hope for health? Since we're kind of in this margin

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move CBA scenario in the end of
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of the day, it is health. I have to say it like that

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because you believe in and when I
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media or fan base or whoever does
the devil's work in Las Vegas. Like

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you start with the two stars,
you know on day one, right,

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and at the end of the day, the Clippers under Toronto Lou have been

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eliminated, with Kawhi Leonard not able
to play in the last game or the

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last series or in the play in
tournament. So like when you look and

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go, how did our season end? How did we get from playing and

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traveling to packing it up for the
summer. Every year it's under t Lou,

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it's been Kawai wasn't there, and
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not being there. Paul George didn't
play in the playing game against New Orleans

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Pelican last year, Paul George missed
the entire postseason this year. That means

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Paul George has not played a playoff
game since the twenty twenty one Western Conference

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Finals. That means Kawhi Leonard has
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Game seven. And so at the
beginning of the day, yes, like

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those are two guys that It's not
an MB Simmons situation. It's not a

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Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant situation in
Brooklyn. It's not just these dudes are

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good together. It's not just these
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These dudes are invested and motivated to
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is going on in GQ talking about
winning a chipboard the Clippers, like he's

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literally got his parents at every game, like he like like like he's still

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playing in Palmdale, man, Like
that is a motivating factor. Like Kawhi

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Leonard Like literally we don't talk about
Kawhi as much as Paul as far as

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like the other people around him,
but he literally has his family at the

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game too. It's a different situation, I can tell you. That makes

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this asion making on a team level
harder because instead of you know, like

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Kevin Durant saying, this time a
year ago, I need you guys to

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trade me or fire Steve Nash,
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and Lawrence are collaborating and whatnot.
Jerry like, yeah, yeah, you

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have you have Kauai, who you
know is big on like the collaboration that

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he has with all levels of the
organization, with Steve Bamber, with the

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front office and the head coach,
Like he literally has his best friend on

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the coaching staff. You know what
I'm saying, Those dudes are more motivated,

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and guess what it does make it
harder to break him up. You

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saw Blake and Chris Paul. It
was easy to break Blake and Chris Paul.

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We knew those zudos didn't get along
no more. You know what I'm

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saying. The Safe Farm commercial didn't
have Blake anymore. So like it was

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like it's only a matter of time, and so it's health in the beginning

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of the end. But then there's
that middle, and that's where you can't

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look at it as guys just need
to be on the court and be healthy.

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We saw some thoroughly un serious basketball
last year, and they dudes could

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not play good basketball. I'm not
talking abou Kwai and Paul anymore, but

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it is a symptom of being on
the same team as Kawai and Paul that

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those dudes did not play well enough
consistently. And again part of it is

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those who's playing, you know,
a string of games together. They literally

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didn't play four straight games together until
mid January, until they were one game

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under five hundred. They lose in
Utah second night of it back to back

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to start that trip. Then they
win five straight and the loss was a

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rest game in Cleveland, and then
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That was the first time all year
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And by that time, the team
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I talked about Reggie Jackson a lot, Reggie Jackson, new new NBA

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champion, Reggie Jackson, shout out
to my man. But like that dude

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knew going into the year that is
something word to give with this team.

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He would be the guy compromise.
He was the only one who was entering

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a contract year. Everyone else had
multiple years left on their deal. When

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things went sideways, and they went
sideways three different times, Okay, yeah,

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that's it. I'm talking just Reggie
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it wasn't it three times? Yeah? How long was this season? It's

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something I would say, Hey,
look, if you go sideways three times,

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this is like geometry now, like
yeah, yeah, exactly right,

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Yeah, it's like hardest right,
And that's exactly what happened. Is like,

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man, it was sideways three times
and they and they took off.

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Yeah, but like by then the
team was gone, Like Reggie wasn't the

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dude no more. You knew you
had to get a real backup center instead

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of, you know, basically saucing
Moses Brown two way contract. Um.

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You had to understand that certain dudes
couldn't play together. We all talked about

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the three guard lineups, but really
Luke Canard and Norman Powell had the same

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weaknesses and those were exploited on both
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as much as we talked about Luke
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a point guard option, there was
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the point option. It's re Luke. It was a lack of aggression of

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making plays within the offense. For
Norm, it was too much aggression,

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because that dude's great if he's got
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he's got to make an interior pass, if it's a zoobox, it's going

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the other way. And so that's
how you wind up with Mason Plumley on

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the team started as a real backup
center. It's how you wind up with

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Eric Gordon, which costs you going
from the twentieth pick to the thirtieth pick

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in this year's first round, because
as fall as Eric Gordon is made most

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of that, most of those falls
a byproduct of him being a fifteen year

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NBA veteran, Right, Eric Gordon
still has the chest to defend on like

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Luke and has the competency and a
pick and roll onlike Norm. Right,

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it was those kinds of things,
and you still wind up with a guy

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like russ As just as you start
a guy like Bones who people get way

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too excited about Bones, Bones of
the player, but reliable starter. He's

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probably asking way too much, right, But like they blew up the team,

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and like there was just so much
going on. There was a there

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was a lack of urgency, even
though guys literally sat on the dial on

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media day talking about closing windows and
now they needed to get it done.

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Like they didn't know when the Detroit
Pistons came to town, they forgot about

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all that stuff, you know,
Like when the Houston Rockets came to town,

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they still kind of you know,
played pity Pat on a Sunday afternoon

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until the fourth quarter. So it's
stuff like that where they do need to

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compete. Like Lawrence isn't just you
know, he's not paying lip service when

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he talks about the level competition all
of them basically, and you know what,

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it was the entire Western Conference.
Part of the reason the Clippers played

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on serious basketball for so many portions
of the year is because they looked at

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the Western was like, we got
some credit built, like people kept and

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you know who else did the same
thing, The Denver Nuggets. The Denver

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Nuggets, that's a bad January one. Were by themselves in first place in

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the Western Conference and they get to
a certain part in early March and they're

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like John just did what? Yeah, Like, oh oh, John Moran

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gonna be out for a while.
Man, We're gonna put this thing in

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cruise control. We already know who
we are as a team. Why didn't

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know who they were? Like,
the only team in the Western Conference that

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had their five man lineup played more
minutes together in the West all season was

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a Sacramento starting lineup, a Sacramento
team that had never gone to the playoffs

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before. And also Sacramento look at
their schedule in March. Everyone could see

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that Sacramento was going to go through
hell and shout out to the Kings because

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they looked at that schedule and they
when I talking about the schedule, I'm

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not talking about just the teams you're
facing. I'm talking about time zones.

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I'm talking about five and sevens.
Sacramento had a ridiculous schedule. If the

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Clippers had the schedule in March that
the Clippers had, y'all would have been

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freaking out. Okay, we all
saw that. The Denver Nuggas all that.

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That's how the Denver Nuggts were literally
a five hundred team the last quarter

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of the season. Quarter of the
season being twenty games. Yeah, okay,

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the Nuggets were. They played un
serious basketball for a whole quarter of

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the season, and it might have
led people to sleep on them slightly because

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they backed into the one seed,
you know going into the playoffs. Well,

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the Clippers, they kind of had
that attitude, but in the middle

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of the bracket, which is not
where you need to have that attitude.

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It isn't. It isn't. But
let me I'm trying to I'm trying to

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tell y'all, like when I was
on the road trip and the Grammy trip,

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we all the minutes start elevating,
the playoff minutes, just like oh

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Kawai and Paul are playing heavy minutes. Like t Lou could tell you.

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When we were in Brooklyn, we
had a raised guys minutes because we needed

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wins. We needed to we needed
to play a best basketball. Everyone's looking

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at ten and four and be like, man, Terrence Man was a certain

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point guard, Like, that's what
it's like. No, what's simple.

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They played Kawhi and Paul George together
high minutes, back to back games,

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right to back to back games.
That's what that's why they played their best.

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As soon as they got back home, right before the trade line,

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playing the Mavericks, it was yeah, we're gonna play basically thirteen guys,

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which is what happened in the first
quarter when Kyrie played his debut with the

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Mavericks. That was the last game
for Luke Nart, the last game for

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Reggie Jackson. John had already been
hurt, but he was on the bench

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all those zo's wanting to getting traded. That's what happened. The next game,

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the game after the trade deadline,
the Bucks come to town, Kawai

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sits, Brandon Boston Junior starts okay
cool, and PG gets locked up by

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Drew and out of the game.
He's like, hey, I know Bones

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was bragging about how the Clippers send
him a PJ, but we need another

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point guard didn't here. Yeah,
so that is like the Clippers did not

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take the season seriously, and that
was a reflection of the Stars. It

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was a reflection of the guys who
played with the Stars. It was a

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00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,000
reflection of the head coach, but
it was a reflection of the organization.

405
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,119
The organization was like, we're gonna
throw this roster together because we can just

406
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,920
do it. And then Kawai knee
steppings up and he springs an ankle,

407
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:49,359
and Paul's hamstring gets tender, and
all of a sudden, you're at a

408
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,880
deficit. And then those guys get
healthy, and you're like, we just

409
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,519
want to evaluate fully healthy. Going
into the East Coast trip at the end

410
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:01,960
of December and you're struggling to be
the roy pistance, you're losing six in

411
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,039
a row. You got your evaluation. Your evaluation is this team did not

412
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:12,000
fit the way you thought it would. That's an organizational thing, and so

413
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,079
they know all of this now.
I expect the organization to approach this all

414
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:21,839
season much differently than last year and
coaching staff. Whereas last year there was

415
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,720
a lot of energy and excitement about
who is coming back the coach staff is

416
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:28,960
now on a bit edge because they
see what's happening across the league and what's

417
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,000
happening here, and they don't have
the level of security. You look at

418
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,240
the stars and they know they need
to play up. Paul's out here getting

419
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:42,400
the graphics team and podcast p let
y'all know we going to get this thing

420
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,079
right. Yeah. And then you
got role players who you already blew the

421
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,759
team up. Everyone was like,
running it back would be a mistake.

422
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,559
They can't run it back. They
literally blew up the roster ry games left.

423
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,039
What running back are you asking for
it? Kawhi and Pug played ten

424
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,079
games with Russ. I don't know
if he's gonna be on the team.

425
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:06,440
What running back are you talking about? But even with all that, there

426
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,359
will be changes, and the changes
ain't going to come from the draft,

427
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,960
and it's not going to come from
free agency. There will be some trades

428
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,720
and it will be fascinating to see
when and how and who's involved. Lie,

429
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,880
who do you think is the starting
point guard going into next season and

430
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,119
who's the backup? Oh man,
that's gonna be interesting right there. So

431
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,559
I talked about Chris Paul and y'all. Y'all people people out here and coming

432
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,960
at me like I'm the one who
said Chris was kim kay. You know,

433
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:38,240
like I'm just letting y'all know how
they talk about bull Like I'm not

434
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:43,400
saying that everybody. I'm just saying
might be some highly angered people. See,

435
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:49,920
you know, like you can say
one superstar ain't feeling Chris like that

436
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,759
because we watch television. We've seen
all the sudden that we watched television.

437
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:59,680
We know what it's not like,
it's not it's not protea, you know

438
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,240
what I'm saying. Then we know
that, you know, Kauai would be

439
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:07,039
cool, Like, I mean,
I don't think that's even that crazy.

440
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,920
Both things can be true. That's
how things happen. Not everyone has the

441
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,440
same relationship. I just am boing
out a relationship. Now. That being

442
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:22,119
said, I'm really interested to see
what's going to happen with Russ. Russ

443
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:27,360
is the guy I'm concerned with more
than Chris Paul. Like, I just

444
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:34,920
don't think the Sons or Chris are
going to land in the destination of Chris

445
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,880
is going to be with the Clippers
and the Sons are going to help him

446
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,719
get there. I don't think that's
happening, And that's the only way I

447
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,440
think Chris would wind up with the
Clippers, because if Chris gets free,

448
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:51,559
I think that more than likely there
are other options for him With Russ.

449
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:55,159
It's coming. It's going to come
down to who's going to bid high enough.

450
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,400
Who are the Clippers bidding with as
far as trying to convince him to

451
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,679
stay home and stay with a group
that he knows has his back, that

452
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,280
coaching staff that can put him into
positions with success. Is Russell messi player,

453
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:15,360
Yes, but there's a difference between
Russ being a messy player with a

454
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,639
star and coach ecosystem that is not
set up to support him or not willing

455
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:27,880
to support him, versus what we
saw this past winter and spring after he

456
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000
joined the Clippers. Like, Russ's
is not the dude that the Lakers made

457
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:34,440
him out to be. But I'm
also not going to see him and be

458
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,159
like, Russ is the answer,
or Russ's the best or Russ's the best

459
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,880
answer. Yeah, are you convinced
that he works with two? One,

460
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:44,199
three? Still? We haven't seen
much. We haven't seen much, But

461
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,000
I'm also not going to say it's
a failure I'm not going to say that

462
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,360
it's the worst thing. I think
Russ is a good option to have,

463
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,079
and that is why t Lou is
the guy to trust. If t wasn't

464
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,039
coaching, I'd be like, that
should be sail. But t Lo's coaching.

465
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,480
And the best thing about TLU season
last year was the fact that he

466
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:07,320
had Russ. He didn't want Russ
just to you know, stick it to

467
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,000
the front office or anything like that. It's like Telu is a former point

468
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,519
guard and TLU won a championship with
crazy Kyrie Irving as his point guard.

469
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:22,000
I'd say crazy because that dude they
won a championship together, and a year

470
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,880
later Kyrie asked out, like that's
what Telu had to deal with? Okay,

471
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,000
yeah, like it was flat earth. Then he goes way back.

472
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:37,360
Yeah, Like I just I point
these things out because it's like Telu had

473
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,039
to literally deal with the you know, not knowing who the heck was going

474
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:46,039
to play consistently for him on the
star level and then having replacement level at

475
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:52,639
best talent at the point guard position
before that, like or guys like you

476
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:57,119
know, basically asking Paul George to
be the point guard, which was great

477
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,239
for the first three quarters and then
the fourth quarter he was graged down.

478
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,679
Yeah he was throwing. Not a
criticism one team man at all, But

479
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,079
like Terrence at the player that he
is is at his best when he's an

480
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:13,639
every man player, That dude just
needs minutes. I think Terrence should just

481
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,280
start, just to start, but
not necessarily at the point guard spot.

482
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:21,679
You need a ball handler who can
facilitate and someone who can at least get

483
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,920
guys to be the best version of
themselves. And if you need to sit

484
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,719
Russ, which we saw t Lou
do multiple times both with well especially with

485
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,239
Kawhi and Paul available, you had
that. If you needed Eric Gordon to

486
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:38,440
be that guy, you had that
right. So a lot. Why do

487
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:44,719
you think Terrence Man didn't have the
love from coach Lou when he was closing

488
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,880
games in the twenty twenty one playoffs? What change to where he was on

489
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,239
such a short lesian getting DMPs early
on the season. I mean Terrence never

490
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,440
got a true DMP this year.
Terrence played every single game except for the

491
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:01,719
game where he got concuss and the
only reason he got concusses because the Clippers

492
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,800
blew leading crazy. I forgot that
was one of the stupidest games of the

493
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,039
year. If you had to put
it, if you had to go letterman

494
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:15,679
and put a top ten together of
Clippers games that gave you a concussion,

495
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:21,320
that game would absolutely be on the
list. Why game winner going off kilter?

496
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:25,440
Like just that. Yeah. Like
So the thing with Terrence, and

497
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:30,679
I think Terrence explained this, uh
you know, I'm going to mention it

498
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,559
in this draft story I'm putting together
hopefully for tomorrow morning, is that Terrence

499
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:40,760
goes into these seasons and the coaching
staff is like, what's Terrence? Whatever

500
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,239
he is? He plays the scenes, Yeah, like he's he's he's a

501
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,800
guy who we're just gonna use when
we need somebody. And what happens every

502
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,480
year the Clippers and needs somebody,
right, and that doesn't help Terrence.

503
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,920
But Terrence is so good that he
winds up out playing dudes that the coaching

504
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,519
staff thought was going to be ahead
of him on the depth chart. It

505
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:09,000
happens every single year. And you
know, the front office again, I

506
00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:12,920
keep going back to this, The
front office is kind of culpable in this

507
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,440
because the look the front office they
really went in the last season being like,

508
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:20,239
we don't need a backup center?
Who needs them? Who needs a

509
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,400
backup center? You know? So
what the MVP of the league is a

510
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,519
center, you know, and in
your conference, like you don't, you

511
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,239
don't need a backup center. And
then he was like, I mean,

512
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:36,079
you know, I would watch my
play there and like I said that in

513
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,440
Vegas and people rolled their eyes,
and I'm like, how many times do

514
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:42,719
I gotta put together the clip of
that Hawks game when they were wearing the

515
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,559
Great jerseys, the clips wearing the
Great jerseys and they're down benches everybody and

516
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:51,440
T Loot and T Man and and
Luke Canar go off. And then he

517
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,800
was like, oh, I guess
we're winning this game. Let's put Kawhii

518
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:59,800
and Arents was literally at center,
setting picks and rolling and catching and finishing

519
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:04,400
better than Daniel two reverage. Okay, like something was born out of that

520
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:09,400
night. Nicklatum said absolutely. And
so what you have is a player in

521
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:15,360
Terrence who and I hate the position
list terms so much because it gives certain

522
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,199
dudes a disservice and it gives some
dudes way too much damn credit presisting list.

523
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,519
That means you got guys who do
stuff that really no like you're gonna

524
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:29,559
have Rocco and Niko as your backup
center. That means you have no in

525
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,119
tier threat, no offensive rebounding,
no guys who actually do set screens.

526
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:36,760
You know who the best screener was, according to Reggie Jackson on the team

527
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,039
outside the center's Terence stricken Man.
So Terence winds up feeling whatever role winds

528
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,599
up being a role that needs to
be played. Kawhi Leonard says he's not

529
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,119
starting the first game of the year
the maximize his minutes. Hey, Terrence,

530
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,320
looks like you're the backup small forward
until Kawhi plays in the middle of

531
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,960
the second quarter. Roco, you
got in health and safety protocols while I

532
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,280
guess Terence is going to play.
John Wall can't play second night of back

533
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,920
to backs. All right, well, Terrence, you're gonna play the backup

534
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,599
point guard role. Reggie, we're
gonna trade you in a month. Then

535
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,960
we got to figure this stuff out, Terrence. So we figure this stuff

536
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,719
out, you're gonna start. You're
gonna start a point guard. That's a

537
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:22,960
disservice to Terrence. It's a disservice
to the role, but it's something where

538
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,559
I guarantee you next year's coaching staff, they're gonna look and be like,

539
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,639
Okay, whether it's Terrence is starting
or not, we're gonna they're gonna have

540
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:32,360
to give him, let him know
what his role is. His role can't

541
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,360
be the position was jack of all
trades that we're just gonna use when shit

542
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,159
hits the fan. Shit is going
to hit the fan on day one on

543
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:46,079
this team, and he needs to
be part of how this team plays fundamentally,

544
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:51,320
not just want to fly random basketball. You need to put a depth

545
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,840
chart together that includes him. That's
not something they've needed. It's something that

546
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,440
they've taken for granted because of the
depth that they've accumulated. But I'm not

547
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:01,039
sure when people joke and be like, how can you be too deep?

548
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:05,079
Well, the Clippers were an example
of how you can be too deep.

549
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,239
You can have a bunch of players
who are good NBA players, who are

550
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,400
competent on one side of the ball, but they don't necessarily fit together and

551
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:17,440
somebody's not going to play as much
as they should. And I the CBA

552
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,599
is going to help them because they
can't take that approach as much anymore.

553
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,760
They have to figure it out.
What you're saying it's putting them in a

554
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,880
position to basically really figure it out
now without that not telling him that's the

555
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,079
right word. But that's what happens
with backups. Backups in the NBA.

556
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:35,039
And we're gonna watch the draft.
We're gonna see all these kids get drafted,

557
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,760
and we're going to celebrate their you
know, we're going to celebrate the

558
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,679
fact that they're professionals. Now.
These kids are probably guys who when they

559
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,119
were in high school, when they
knew they were had at tangent to touch

560
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:51,360
the pros. They had all these
extra skills, these ball skills, like

561
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,320
basketball players in the pro level are
incredibly skilled. But then you have to

562
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,360
do different things to get on the
court when you're a young player, especially

563
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,039
if you're not a high draft pick
with those one percent skills, So you

564
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,960
go from being a ball dominant Cale
Martin's a great example. The dude cook

565
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,559
that Nevada all Right, put up
hot numbers, didn't even get drafted.

566
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:15,280
So that dude had to be a
different kind of basketball player to make it

567
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,760
as a two way contract as an
undrafted guy, even playing with his twin.

568
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,920
And what that does is you got
to show that you can play off

569
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,119
the ball. You gotta show that
you can defend. You got to show

570
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:30,760
that you can play hard, right, and then when you show that and

571
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:36,719
have some consistency in your role,
you might be asked to do more with

572
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,639
the best ball and show something there. And so when you have backups,

573
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,559
that means that's really where the game
positions. But when you have a starting

574
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:51,960
lineup that is a five man group
that goes into practice knowing what they're doing

575
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,400
day in, everything out. Yeah, exactly. The starting point guard is

576
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,199
not worried about being the backup small
forward, the starting power board isn't worried

577
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:06,360
about having the you know, fill
in on the wing and and check off

578
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,840
ball guy who's running the baselines and
whatnot. No, that guy is Those

579
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,360
starters are static positions. Dynamic positions
are the backups. Terrence has always been

580
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,599
a second unit guy. I'm wondering
to see if this is the year that

581
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:22,760
changes and they go in and determine
Terrence has to be a part of a

582
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:27,360
static lineup with the best players from
the jump. That certainly was in case

583
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,480
his past year, which we all
were not tripping about. It certainly wasn't

584
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:36,400
the case going into the year after
the twenty twenty one playoffs where it was

585
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:37,760
established Terrence is going to be in
the second unit, but he's going to

586
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,639
be a big part of the second
unit because we are down, your down

587
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,960
guys, and obviously going into his
first and second years, Terrence is just

588
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,559
happy to be on the damn team. He's going into year five and he's

589
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,599
going from a two million, not
even two million, to a ten million.

590
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,639
If he's a part of your team
and he's shown what he's been able

591
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:04,840
to show, especially if you're ignoring
an entire position like power forward, then

592
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:12,920
you should strongly consider throwing Terrens out
there. Law, because you're close with

593
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:15,960
coach lu. You guys have had
some interesting interactions here and there. You

594
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:21,440
travel, you go to every game, road, home, away, doesn't

595
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,519
matter, and you've got to ask
the tough questions. But I'm just wondering

596
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,239
if you have any insight on this, because we've been bouncing this around a

597
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,719
little bit over the last month.
I think it was a lot of the

598
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,199
jam that talked about at first,
but there's some speculation that the constant cycling

599
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,920
at the point guard position and them
trying to find that perfect piece in the

600
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,920
two one three era and they've yet
to do. So is more about maybe

601
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,880
what Paul George and Kawhi want with
less responsibility handling the ball in the court

602
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:57,880
than maybe what point guard heavy favoritism
Coach lu he said he had not favoritism,

603
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,239
but he said himself that he has
a proclivity or he has a tendency

604
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,679
to favor point guards. He said, I know y'all love wings, but

605
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,679
I was a point guard. I
was a guard fride hard Who is it?

606
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:14,079
Who is it more on when it
comes to trying to find that perfect

607
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:15,639
fit? Do you think it's Kawhi
and PG or do you think it's Coach

608
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,079
Lou. I know it could always
be a little bit of both, but

609
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:22,519
who do you think more is responsible
for them? Just trying to figure that

610
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,199
out, it's it's it's Kwion PG, And let me tell you why,

611
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:31,039
it's Quim PG. T lou Is
just as frustrated as everybody who's trustrated with

612
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:37,599
him. He was, yeah,
like he do. He's not trying to

613
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:40,119
run. He ain't trying to run
the personnel department. He's not trying to

614
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,639
you know, like T lou Is. He's not Doc okay, Doc wins

615
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:52,840
press conferences. Tu Is like basketball
coach, like you know T lou Is,

616
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,760
Eric Spoilstra. That like the funniest
thing about Eric Spoelstra is you know,

617
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,679
not any un train eye comments.
The funniest thing about Erik Sposture is

618
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:07,239
pregame playoffs. If you don't have
a question, in five seconds, dude

619
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,960
is gone. He ain't waiting around. He'll look, he'll wink, he's

620
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,599
gone find a gift, host it
and tag me in it. That's who

621
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Eric sposure is, That's who T
lou Is. T Lo's not trying to

622
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:23,400
talk about anything extra. He just
wants to win. When t Louis started,

623
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:28,440
he said, y'all want to complain
about point guards PG, you gonna

624
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,320
be the point guard. And that's
what happened. That's what happened. And

625
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:38,519
so when you guys, when when
people are talking about man, the Clippers

626
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,159
guys, they don't they don't play
little management all this, which, by

627
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,079
the way, I hate, I
hate that I ranted about that. I

628
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,719
mean, y'alln't get that same energy
to the Golden State words this year,

629
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,360
doom dudes have entire eight man rotations
not playing the second nights of back back.

630
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,880
But I digress, Like T Lou. He's frustrated too. He's like

631
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,280
man I played with Kobe, I
played with forty year old Mike like TLU

632
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:07,400
hates slow management and was very very
clear about that. Why does he hate

633
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,519
little management? Because he wants to
win and he wants to win his way.

634
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,480
Tlu stubborn. Okay, he stubborn. He is going to do things

635
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,079
because he wants to do them because
he believes in what he's doing. And

636
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,719
that is that like and he should
like Look, he's an NBA head coach,

637
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:30,239
an NBA champion twice over as a
player and as a coach, like

638
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,880
if Tlu carries himself like the dude
who's won some championships. That's that's why,

639
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,719
Like t didn't didn't grow up,
you know, with some lollipop group

640
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,000
of dudes, like his rookie coach, I mean not rookie coach, but

641
00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:49,880
his he won with Phil Jackson for
crying out loud. Like he played for

642
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,920
Scott Skiles, who go look up
Scott Skiles. That dude used to quit

643
00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:00,559
teams just because he didn't like them, like Scott Skiles is ruthless man like

644
00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:07,119
t Lou had to play for both
Van Gundhi's okay, both of the news

645
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:13,880
so like like Lou ain't with the
BS man like and so he's looking at

646
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,480
his roster and it's like, I
see thee how these dudes are. I

647
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:22,320
need this kind of player And that's
really it. Like like everyone talks about

648
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,400
favoritism at the point guard position.
There might be other positions and you know,

649
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:31,280
we'll get to that, but like
point guard, like him and Reggie

650
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,119
didn't click this year. Like it
was funny looking at people to be like

651
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,119
putting memes together about him and him
and Reggie and it's like, dude,

652
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,840
Reggie and t Lou weren't. They
didn't have the same connection this year that

653
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,000
they had the year before when Reggie
had to be the guy. And even

654
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:52,280
then Eric Bledsoe started for for a
reason, t Lou really wanted to make

655
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,639
that work. And after a while
it was like I gotta separate Eric and

656
00:49:55,639 --> 00:50:00,679
Reggie, you know, And it
was mainly because Tlu wanted Eric to beat

657
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:06,719
that point guard. But Eric was
just so incompatible with Reggie that it was

658
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,559
like, you don't make sense.
And guess what it worked. Eric played

659
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:15,039
way better as a backup. Okay, Eric was effective and you know,

660
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:20,840
it was great because they bambooloo with
the Portland's Trailblazers as they did, which

661
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,199
Portland obviously asked for it, because
that they looked at Eric One was like,

662
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,440
hey, I know he played every
single game, but like, we

663
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,039
need you to retire right now.
Couldn't you do the opposite? Yo,

664
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:32,599
man, You're gonna score a bunch
of points in China next year and we

665
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,119
just needed we don't need to get
sharp, you know what I'm saying.

666
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:43,960
Like TLU got rich on Rondo and
everyone was like, Rondo is a brain.

667
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,199
I mean not everyone just out frank
uh, you know, like he

668
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:51,360
looked at that trade and it was
like, Rondo's going to change everything,

669
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,760
but you know, Ball's going to
be in quiet PGT and six persons at

670
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,840
the time. We've heard that for
three years now. Guess what. In

671
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,079
the playoffs, TLU was like,
I'm bench or Jhon Rondo, don't ask

672
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:06,599
about him. He's not playing kwaij
JC All right, Ronald's gonna get a

673
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,920
chance western corner. Ronos. No, he dribbled the ball off his foot.

674
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,519
I'm not playing him again. Right, he lost his powers. He

675
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:16,360
was good for them. In the
regular season, they completely fell apart he

676
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:20,199
was. He was the reason.
He and Team Man were the reason they

677
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,800
won Game three. Jinn Rondo was
not a complete failure. I want to

678
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,079
just point that out. I hated
that trade. I think a lot of

679
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,760
that trade. Yeah, it was
tough. Yeah, but it would be

680
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,000
capped to say that Rondo was a
complete failure. If you're going at a

681
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:37,000
trade, give it a see or
is he minus? Don't give it enough.

682
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,679
Rajon was very good in that regular
season and Rajon Rondo in that Game

683
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,639
three when they were down damn near
twenty in the first quarter, already down

684
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,320
two. Well in that series,
him and team Man helped turn that thing

685
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,920
around and they win that game and
they wind up winning the series. So

686
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,119
you know, it was the beginning
end for Rajon Rondos. When he stared

687
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:59,599
a hole through Kawhi Leonard Game five, I was so crazy. Yep here

688
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,000
from again pretty much so. But
like to Ron, Lou will bench a

689
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:07,400
guy, he will bench a guy, he will not play a guy.

690
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,800
He will say this ain't it.
And that's what you know. But now

691
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,239
that's a speriment at the podcast and
saying what about Marcus, And that's where

692
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,920
there need to be changes. That's
where It's like, why why did Rocco

693
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:30,159
make sacrifices and Marcus? It took
until March to basically UM do the same

694
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:35,400
things, and even that was handled
differently, so UM and I will always

695
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,280
come back to this. The front
office. They made moves affecting every single

696
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:46,159
position on the team except what except
the four. Yep, they had just

697
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,719
the point guard situation. Completely blow
that room up. They had to get

698
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,239
a backup center, which they ignored
the previous offseason, including when they got

699
00:52:54,320 --> 00:53:00,719
John Wall and Isaiah wound up moving
on. Uh. They had their their

700
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,639
the wing situation, of course,
but the backup wings were was Luke and

701
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,039
they had adjuster that They've made all
those moves, they did not address the

702
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:17,519
four at all. They basically brought
the same dudes in, kept those dudes.

703
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:21,599
We all saw what was going down. I thought when Marcus got ejected

704
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,360
in Brooklyn, I was like,
damn, he got ejected in Memphis soon

705
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:30,679
maybe this is the year and that
didn't happen. And I knew the vibes

706
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,280
were at a certain way, but
we all saw it, and they still

707
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,280
didn't do anything about it. Whether
that was because they felt like they couldn't

708
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,679
or they felt like they didn't need
to. It was still an oversight.

709
00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:49,960
Guess what, t Lou can't start
anybody until late September October. That means

710
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,079
that don't blame t Lou for anything
that happens. You know, if the

711
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:58,760
same group of guys are in training
camp together, right, and that's where

712
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,760
I leave it, Like they know
by the by the end of the March,

713
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:07,119
the coaching staff knew what it was, and it's frustrating. It was

714
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:10,000
frustrating for all those guys. I
feel for Marcus because sure, yeah,

715
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:15,000
I mean Marcus so much the year
before he was at Him and Reggie were

716
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,119
the two guys for the Clippers the
whole year basically yeah, and everyone was

717
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,199
like, this is great, and
then it was then they were also getting

718
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:23,639
so much undue hate. It felt
sometimes that year where it's like, this

719
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:27,360
is what the team looks like when
Reggie and Marcus are the one and two,

720
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:31,360
what are you expecting? People want
consistency in their lineups, and they

721
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,239
want it to be like, hey, like keep keep team man in certain

722
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,199
line up, but they also want
change um and it's like something with the

723
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:45,159
four position. You've heard both and
it was kind of weird. The only

724
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:50,159
reason Marcus got the rope that he
got was because it was cold. Say

725
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:55,239
this again, Kawai and PG.
Notice how Marcus didn't leave the lineup until

726
00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:01,480
after PEG's knee got compromised by lud. Yeah, Like, if that injury

727
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:07,440
doesn't happen, I'm not sure Marcus
gets benched. You know, Marcus didn't

728
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,000
get bench until the Saturday night after
Yeah, Paul hurt his knee. And

729
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,679
that's a lot of what matters,
Like the star players got the kind of

730
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,800
pull, and the coaching staff already
has enough to deal with. They're not

731
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,280
trying to break it all up.
And Rocco situation this past year, like

732
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,199
it was basically Justice winslow, but
everyone forgets Justice as experience with the Clippers

733
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:35,239
because of how absolutely upside down that
entire season was, especially at the beginning,

734
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,920
like Justice was not playing, and
then things changed and they needed a

735
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,400
backup power forward because they decided to
start Nico and Marcus together, Whereas the

736
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,559
original plan was for Marcus start Nico
to be the backup four off the bench

737
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,159
Paul obviously as you're starting small forward. But you know, when Paul was

738
00:55:55,199 --> 00:56:00,079
having his elbow issues, and then
Nico got over the COVID issue and when

739
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:05,840
he had the bone bruise in his
foot by then early January, TV was

740
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,679
like, well, we need we
need to start Nico and Marcus together in

741
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,280
a way to kind of and and
the mirror was starting at the two because

742
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,320
the team decided that was the look
that they were going with. They were

743
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,800
going to go with a look that
approximated what it looks like when you have

744
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,400
Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. You
know, they didn't play that way until

745
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,079
they lost Paul and was like,
we gotta figure this out. That's opened

746
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:35,119
up the backup power for a spot. Justice was till in that spot,

747
00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:38,760
Justice played great basket. Yeah,
and then he gets traded for Rocco,

748
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,840
a player who when he came here, the team was not committing to Roco.

749
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,280
There was even a thought that they
might flip Roco. He traded here

750
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,960
a week before the trade deadline.
But Rocco Kris fans were saying he was

751
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,480
washed when they brought him in.
I don't know about bringing in Rocco.

752
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:57,639
I like Norman Powell, Rocco,
I think he's done. It wasn't done

753
00:56:58,039 --> 00:57:01,280
because that Portland team was embarras seeing
defensively, and Roco was a big part

754
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:07,480
of a starting lineup that included Norm
and Rocco with a bunch of guys who

755
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,599
they were basically black, red and
white cones for the first half of the

756
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:15,880
season when they were trying to win
games, right, that's and and it's

757
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,199
like, yeah, like you weren't
looking at Roco who I think miss I

758
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:23,400
want to say, at least his
last ten threes with the Blazers. Like

759
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:30,639
Rocco's shooting streakiness is legendary, it
goes all the way back to Philadelphia,

760
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:37,840
and so like, yeah, no
one was like going to commit to anything

761
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,519
about Roco from a fan level,
from a front office level, from a

762
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:45,039
coaching level. But Rocco was an
outstanding fit as a backup for playing next

763
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:49,920
to a true backup center in Isaiah, and it worked. And Roco loved

764
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,920
his experience, loved the coach staff, loved his teammates, loved everything that

765
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:58,199
went into the season. But you
know, no one could have really saw

766
00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:00,920
it coming unless you were like,
Okay, how well is this thing going

767
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,559
to work with no center? Well, they tried to play those guys,

768
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,159
They did try to play with guys. Yeah, Roco gets COVID and he

769
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:13,440
comes back, and the team was
already in a state of we have to

770
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:19,280
do things differently. Kawhi's not here, the backuping ain't working, Terrence has

771
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,639
to play where it's Terren's going to
play Rocco's spot. Yep, that's how

772
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,519
that's how. That's how that worked. That's how you get Terrence Man playing

773
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:35,039
three positions in three game four Thanksgiving. Yeah, so I feel for Rocco.

774
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:40,119
I can't see a scenario I can, but I more clearly can see

775
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:44,719
a scenario where he's not with the
team next year. That makes sense.

776
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:50,280
Yeah, but we all know what
it is with Marcus. Marcus has declined

777
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,639
to the point where and now his
contract is in a situation where he's easier

778
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:57,719
to move it goes. I remember
year too, right, I think he's

779
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,440
like they're all up in a year. Yeah. I don't care about like

780
00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:06,320
how much money anyone's making next year. They have one year left. And

781
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,760
what we learned from Reggie Jackson's experience
and by extension, john Wall, john

782
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,800
Wall had a team option originally,
but it's basically like, hey, you're

783
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,199
on a one year deal and we
have the team control of how that goes.

784
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,480
You got two point guards on one
year deals that both of those dudes

785
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:28,719
went up getting traded off. All
three of Marcus Morris Senior, Nicholas Vatum,

786
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:34,039
Robert Covington one year left on their
deals and before this all season you're

787
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:35,920
like, hey, you got two
years up in the dear. Here's how

788
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,599
hard things are in the NBA when
it comes to contracts one year versus any

789
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:42,840
more than one year. John Wall
would have been a Clipper two years ago.

790
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:45,360
But John Wall wasn't a Clipper because
there's no way in hell the Houston

791
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,519
Rockets, even the state of tank
that they were in, they weren't going

792
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:53,440
to buy out. When I told
people when Sergeibaka got traded, and when

793
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:59,400
I said the Clippers aren't done,
they were monitoring the situation in Houston,

794
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:06,079
and they got two guys, Rodney
Hood and Shemmy Ojila, who were basically

795
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:07,960
cutible. We could have could have
let them go. They weren't committed to

796
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,440
them. They could have let them
go as soon as they were able to.

797
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:19,400
Rodney Hood stayed because the Rockets could
not stomach buying out john Wall's contract

798
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,199
with multiple years left. Okay,
they waited until john Wall picked up his

799
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:27,599
player option and then they bought him
out the following off season. Shemy ojially

800
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:30,960
wound up getting cut so that Amir
could get promoted and Xavier Moon can get

801
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:36,119
the two way to end this season. Kyle Lowry and Miami was the same

802
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:39,440
situation this past year. If Kyle
had one year left on his deal in

803
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,519
Miami, he would have been bought
out or they would have found a way

804
01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:45,760
to trade him, and it might
have been to the Clippers, because the

805
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,559
Clippers were interested in getting a guy
like Kyle. Kawhi Leonard was interested in

806
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:55,159
that reunion, but the Heat kind
of were like, Stewart, We're just

807
01:00:55,199 --> 01:01:00,039
going to bench Kyle for a whole
month. Would take attention to their thing.

808
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:04,679
Yeah, yea, and we're gonna
bring him back as a backup,

809
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,920
which is what happened. Gave Vinson
wound up starting the rest of the year,

810
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:09,639
but Kyle played damn near every game, and then all of a sudden,

811
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,239
the Heat put him on ice.
While they were trying to resolve the

812
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:19,199
situation, the Heat were playing terrible
Clippers like basketball, except against the Clippers

813
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,920
this past season. Okay, that
team wound up in the NBA Finals,

814
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,039
not just in NBA Finals, they
wound up going home Game three with home

815
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:31,960
court advantage, right, not even
the lockout Knicks could claim that. So

816
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:38,159
but Jimmy Butler, Raine Kawhi Leonard, Jason McIntyre, Sorry, he's not.

817
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:42,239
He said he's had a better career
than Kawhi Letard. I'm sorry to

818
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,239
have it because he gets money to
talk and that's all that is very true.

819
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:51,159
Yeah, that's all that is.
So like, I bring all that

820
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:53,719
up because the dynamics have to change. They know it has to change.

821
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,000
And that's the position where he's got
to change, because that's the one position

822
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,000
where if everyone comes back, you
are unquote running it back. And that

823
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:04,320
is what that would be. And
yes, and that would be unacceptable.

824
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,039
There is no running it back with
this past team. What you're running ten

825
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:12,599
games back is that whatever you're running
back, it's not like you saw a

826
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:15,880
full season with this team. They
blew the team up. They blew the

827
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,840
team up twenty eighteen Cavalier style.
I'm talking like they're trade dealing. When

828
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:28,119
they brought in Jordan Clarkson and they
bought in uh George Hill and uh they

829
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:32,679
brought in Larry Nance. Like that's
a blow up. That is, know

830
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:37,599
what people mean though they're talking about
Kawhi and PG. They think the experiment

831
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:39,360
is over. They're never going to
be able to win a championship because of

832
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:45,000
the injury history. I'm with you, though, Like the grass isn't always

833
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:49,039
greener even if you could, it's
not yet. High first round picks for

834
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:53,440
those guys from two thousands, probably
not by the way, right, who

835
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:59,280
even drafted bad teams? What bad
teams? Yeah, what are you trying

836
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,800
to do? You're trying to pick
swop with a team that you wished death

837
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:07,440
upon. They're too good for that. Like, come on, and here's

838
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,239
my other thing real quick, because
we're talking about contenders. You know how

839
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:15,239
many playoff series of Denver Nuggets one
before this Ploseason run. The last two

840
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,159
years they won one. Okay,
last year the team that came out of

841
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:22,599
the West was Gold and Stay Warriors. Everyone wants to tie last year championship

842
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:28,159
to the dynasty. I tie last
year's championship to the worst team in basketball

843
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:31,159
in twenty twenty that didn't even make
the bubble, literally the worst and a

844
01:03:31,199 --> 01:03:35,000
team that lost in the play in
tournament to the Memphis Grizzinies. The same

845
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:38,280
Grizzinies that everyone was a clown all
right now, The Phoenix Suns made the

846
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,079
NBA Finals, beating Dailly Clippers in
the twenty twenty one Weston Conference Finals.

847
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:45,920
Before that, they missed the playoffs
ten years in a row. The Lakers

848
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:52,039
won the Chip in the Bubble before
that worst stretch and franchise history six years

849
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:55,119
out of the playoffs, even before
the Warriors dynasty of five years, they

850
01:03:55,119 --> 01:04:00,920
won what two playoff series in twenty
years? Yeah, like, there is

851
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:05,880
no like because you weren't close.
You were not there. The Clippers aren't

852
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:12,039
close, But they would be foolish
to break it up because they didn't win

853
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:15,639
a playoff series because dudes got hurt. If Kawhi and Paul, let's be

854
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,840
real talk. If Kawai and Paul
were on that floor against the Phoenix Suns

855
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:27,199
and the quarter pos are we are
we talking about things differently? If if

856
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,599
Kawhi and Paul are playing in their
seven EME serions against the Nuggets, do

857
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:33,400
I think they win it? I
don't know, but I would give them

858
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,559
a damn good chance to try.
I know that they I know that the

859
01:04:38,639 --> 01:04:42,519
Nuggets have dominated them since the Western
Conference Finals in the bubble. But I

860
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:45,760
also know that the team that the
Nuggets would have faced would have been different.

861
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,880
The Nuggets very well could have beat
them. But that's a series that

862
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:56,039
you would have wanted to see,
right because of all the dumb stuff that's

863
01:04:56,039 --> 01:05:00,360
happened, because of the fluke injuries
and the fact that, yeah, some

864
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,480
of these might be recurring. But
because of some of that, you're saying

865
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:09,280
in one of the most unserious Western
conferences that we've seen to date, one

866
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:15,320
that got even more un serious as
the playoffs started, you're saying that they

867
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:20,400
should basically disqualify themselves from competing with
that group next year. Did you see

868
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:29,679
what zion snaps look like? Do
you see what has been teasing the entire

869
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,079
month in Memphis? The Sacramento Kings
just make the playoffs are the first time

870
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:39,800
in seventeen years, Like, do
we realize? Like that is the Western

871
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,519
Conference that the Clippers are in.
The Lakers made the Western Conference finals.

872
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:45,079
I thought they were going to win
the damn championship. They couldn't get one

873
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:50,320
game off at Denver and Lebron's finally
for the first time ever using the threat

874
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:57,760
of retirement. That's the Western Conference. The Dallas Mavericks punted the play and

875
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,119
tournament even though they outscored their opponents
on the year. The other team in

876
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:03,320
the East I could have did that. The Heat that actually lost the playing

877
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:09,079
game made it to the damn NBA
Finals. I can't stress enough. This

878
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,400
is not the time. Like I
know, people are tripping about Shae Gilgers

879
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,559
Alexander to being great. Shae Gilgers
Alexanda, the next playoff series he wins

880
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:23,519
will be the first. No disrespect, Shay Gils Alexander is looking for his

881
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:27,320
Kawhi. Guess what The Clippers have
their kauwhai. They have Kawhi and Paul

882
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,920
playing together. Still, they have
the same chance next year as they did

883
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,679
the last four years, and you
know what it might end up the last

884
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:39,159
four years. But having a chance
to win something significant is more important than

885
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,840
having the hope that comes with a
slander free zone that the thunder are in

886
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,719
because they keep winning trades with now
an All NBA player. You know why

887
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:51,039
Shay got to be an All NBA
player because he was a rookie on the

888
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:56,440
playoff team gets traded to a team
that didn't make the playoffs but had Chris

889
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,559
Paul, which means you're going to
make the playoffs and probably, you know,

890
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,840
lose maturely. People don't think about
how the Thunders should have probably won

891
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,760
that game seven, but you know
that's neither here nor there now. He

892
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:10,239
did not and then Shay did not
play a game in April for two years.

893
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,880
You know, you might, you
might get to be a damn good

894
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,880
player if it's all on you and
the balls in your hands and you got

895
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,320
to figure it out and you are
as good as Shade is and as wired

896
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:27,440
as Shade is. Sha is an
outstanding young talent and it's not an accident

897
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,039
that he's a monster now, Okay, But to think that the same player

898
01:07:31,239 --> 01:07:38,079
would have been the same player the
same way if you would have stayed here

899
01:07:38,719 --> 01:07:42,920
is the kind of thing that you
know, TLC Warren ya all about chasing

900
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,079
waterfalls. So like that's where we're
at right now. Like the Western Conference

901
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,840
is no disrespect to the Nuggets.
It's going to be harder for the Nuggets

902
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,920
next year and the rest of them
teams, they all can talk themselves into

903
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,000
having a real shot at it.
What the Clippers can't do is say it's

904
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:01,440
just health. But I think they
all understand that a little urgency might make

905
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,480
you a little bit better. And
there's no urgency like your livelihood being that

906
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:13,039
state. As a real talk kawhi
MPG as comfortable as they are in California.

907
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,800
How much y'all want to want this
to work? Y'all want to do

908
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,319
this in another city? You put
in the front another year and then the

909
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:26,520
player options, right, so those
got exactly and you had a front office

910
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,359
that might be in a position where
they feel like they need to save their

911
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,800
jobs. Well, that can mean
a whole lot of stuff. And if

912
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,600
you're a player, you got to
you gotta perform, even if you are

913
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,640
that start um, if you believe
in the team and not asking for your

914
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,199
trade out and again trade out to
where who's gonna give you an opportunity.

915
01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:47,000
We just saw what would happen when
Katie Katie got his trade. Katie just

916
01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:50,039
got his head, not him,
but like he went to a team and

917
01:08:50,119 --> 01:08:54,760
that team went up firing their head
coach. Kyrie got his trade and he

918
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,359
didn't even get to play in the
playoffs. Kyrie Irving outside of Toronto lou

919
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,000
has won a grand total of two
playoff series in his entire career. Been

920
01:09:02,079 --> 01:09:06,039
I mean the court for teams that
have won two in his entire care outside

921
01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:12,560
of t outside of TLU and David
Black like, it's not always greener on

922
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,079
the other side, and that goes
for team level two. There's no greater

923
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:17,920
scam than trade the picks, and
we're gonna let it. We're gonna keep

924
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,199
our jobs because we just traded the
Star for picks. You know, Dandy

925
01:09:21,239 --> 01:09:25,920
Angel can do that, but he
in utah u La building a new stadium

926
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,119
the year the team is one hundred
percent. The owners like, I'm paying

927
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:33,680
for this. This needs to work
exactly. The West Camp be a whole

928
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,880
lot worse next year, but at
the same time, it's gonna be harder

929
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,520
for everybody. So if you know
that and you go in, that's how

930
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,279
Look, the Clippers were embarrassing the
bubble, right, what did they do?

931
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,760
They were the best team in basketball
until Kawhi and PG went in health

932
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,640
and safety protocols of the start of
TuS first season and said, coach,

933
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:56,359
that's the energy that you can expect
going into this next year. Yeah,

934
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,560
it's gonna come down to health because
that was the attitude last year. If

935
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,920
they start it well last year,
a lot of the frustrations don't fester and

936
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:10,760
develop as soon as they did.
Like if Kauai winds up missing time in

937
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:15,359
November again, Paul Missus simon November
again, that compromises your start. Yeah,

938
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:17,439
feelings are going to be weird and
who knows what could happen. The

939
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:21,000
basement is pretty low for the Clippers. I'm not going to front on that.

940
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,640
That's fair. I mean, when
your guys miss, when there's a

941
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,920
chance that your guys are going to
miss some substantial time and you're top to

942
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,640
your guys, it feels like the
basement is always low. But that's exactly.

943
01:10:30,119 --> 01:10:32,319
But the difference with the difference with
the Clippers, they do have a

944
01:10:32,359 --> 01:10:36,640
ceiling. They do have another level. They do have a level of competitiveness

945
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:41,319
that they can get to. It
can't just be Kawaii and Paul staying healthy.

946
01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:44,039
And that's why I say, Look, they need to play harder.

947
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,720
The coaches need to coach like they
want to, you know that, like

948
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,000
they're not looking at the standings.
The fun office needs to put a team

949
01:10:50,039 --> 01:10:57,680
together to protect against and well as
support the coaching staff that they have.

950
01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:00,800
And all of those factors lead two
reasons why the Clippers can be better.

951
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,399
Am I selling that right now?
Hell no, I'm not going to tell

952
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:06,880
you to clip with their favorites.
I didn't tell you last year. I

953
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:12,359
got a whole lot. That's when
we'll have to happen between now and when

954
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:15,840
the season starts in the fall.
But I'm also going to say the Clippers

955
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,920
would be foolish if they were to
break it up now prematurely. It would

956
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,560
give everyone a huge break. Oh
man, Oh no, how West is

957
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,600
gonna go bo at least me.
You got to worry about the Clippers,

958
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,680
That's true. Takes pressure off everyone
else if you separate the two two top

959
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,920
ten fifteen guys obviously quite a little
higer than PG maybe. But Adam,

960
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,920
what were you about to say?
Well, my concern is kind of relating

961
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,000
to that. It takes the pressure
off everyone, including the fan base.

962
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:47,960
I don't want Clipper Nation to fall
into this. I guess section of fans

963
01:11:48,039 --> 01:11:57,000
were you just want to be comfortable, and that's a team of guys overachieving.

964
01:11:57,159 --> 01:12:00,880
But your ceiling is winning twenty nineteen
Clippers basically, right, The little

965
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:06,960
engine that could type a team like
this is what you deal with sometimes as

966
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,239
a team with expectations of winning a
championship, and that has been new to

967
01:12:11,279 --> 01:12:15,239
this franchise relatively over the last ten
years. And there's gonna be hardship and

968
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:18,800
heartache that the Miami Heat fans are
hurting right now. They've been knocking on

969
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,800
the door multiple times the last five
years. I know they got those rings

970
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:27,000
with Lebron James. With this current
iteration, they've been through heartache. It's

971
01:12:27,039 --> 01:12:30,600
not always that easy. You mentioned
the Denver Nuggets win in one playoff series.

972
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,279
The last couple of seasons, they
go through a guy tearing an acl

973
01:12:32,359 --> 01:12:34,319
at that young of an age,
and you wonder if he's ever going to

974
01:12:34,399 --> 01:12:39,039
be the same. But you keep
knocking on the door and you just hope

975
01:12:39,279 --> 01:12:42,159
that you have a little bit more
luck, a little bit better fortune,

976
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,640
and it's your year. It's your
time. This two on three era,

977
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,600
this is the closest they've had to
really legitimately winning a championship. This group

978
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:54,479
of guys, having Kauhi and PG
gives you that opportunity and that credibility you

979
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:59,399
start over with young guys. I
went over the last ten years from two

980
01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:02,960
thousand and six to twenty sixteen top
ten picks just over twenty five percent of

981
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:09,680
those guys became All Stars. When
they broadcast the draft next Thursday, everybody

982
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,760
gets talked about like they can be
a future All Star in the first thirty

983
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:19,359
everybody and everybody has this false hope. That's not reality. The next SGA

984
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,119
isn't guaranteed for the Clippers just because
they hit the reset button and you want

985
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:28,560
to do and go back in time
to twenty nineteen and start over. That's

986
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,199
not the real SGA wasn't even a
toughs in pick. Look at look at

987
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:36,159
the twenty eighteen draft. There's no
way in hell the Clippers drafts SGA.

988
01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:41,840
There's no way in hell he doesn't
get there. Okay, that's the crazy

989
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,800
thing about the draft. Look at
the dudes who were drafted five years ago,

990
01:13:46,359 --> 01:13:49,479
five years ago, how many of
those dudes are with the teams that

991
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:54,640
they began their your careers with,
you know. And that's the funniest thing

992
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,600
about all this. It's like the
draft is a crapshoot. But the draft

993
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,960
is also so going to take on
more importance because we all know that there

994
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:09,239
are going to be some missus.
If you can hit that that is cost

995
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:15,359
control talent for a number of years, especially when you already have the team

996
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:19,359
that everyone's trying to get to.
The pills are trying to get two wings.

997
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:24,199
Like people want the Boston Celtics to
break up because they're quote tired of

998
01:14:24,279 --> 01:14:29,239
watching them, tired of watching them
win in the conference finals. They broke

999
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:32,079
through one year, like they literally
got to the conference finals this year.

1000
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,520
They won more games this year than
they did the year before with a backup

1001
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:44,600
coaching staff. Okay, it wasn't
just emay Udoka leaving and Missola having to

1002
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:49,279
step up, Like they lost Will
Hardy to a head coaching job before all

1003
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:55,720
of that. They lost Damon Statamier
before the playoffs during the regular season this

1004
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,319
past year, and they still they
be a very good Philadelphia seventy six ers

1005
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:05,039
team. They went into a Game
six on the road to save their season

1006
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:09,840
and then got to the conference finals. They did compete to force the game

1007
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,079
seven after being down three zero with
a backup coaching staff. You want to

1008
01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:19,279
break up Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum
Jesse Jesse on that that would that would

1009
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:27,960
be great because it's fresh and it's
new, and it's basically it's this idea

1010
01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:31,800
of Jay Brown again, Like that's
what people don't like telling the same stories,

1011
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,199
watching the same thing, and they
think that they get bored, like

1012
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:41,079
and again, it's the biggest scan
that that happens, Like it would be

1013
01:15:41,119 --> 01:15:44,359
a huge break to the rest of
the teams in the league if they broke

1014
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,600
those zodes up right, So we
we're talking the draft. Last thing I

1015
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,279
want to ask before we head out
of here. We mentioned it in like

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01:15:51,319 --> 01:15:55,079
a week, which is so crazy. We had Choe Mare on the show

1017
01:15:55,159 --> 01:16:01,039
and he mentioned that he would be
not surprised, but he it suggests that

1018
01:16:01,119 --> 01:16:03,680
that you know, since it's a
thirtieth pick, it's a guaranteed contract for

1019
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,720
the team, so they gotta be
on the team. Are they going to

1020
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,560
keep that thirtieth pick because there are
a chance they moved back or like you

1021
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,840
mentioned as the draft so important now
that they're not that they weren't working hard

1022
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,279
before. But you know what I
mean, like, are they more zeroed

1023
01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:21,319
in on something there? I mentioned
that I'm putting the I don't even know

1024
01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:24,840
when the spot comes out, but
I mean I am. But you know,

1025
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:30,039
don't spoil anything, all right,
so easy? Yeah, yeah,

1026
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:31,800
you know, you know, I'm
uh, this is is one of those

1027
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,960
nights where um, me and me
and the laptop become one and the yeah

1028
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:44,119
to the watching, watching the you
know the numbers. I've looked at tons

1029
01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:47,640
of numbers, man, So like, I'm at the point where I can

1030
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,079
tell you, dudes I haven't gotten
to see play. I know what they're

1031
01:16:51,119 --> 01:16:56,560
capable of on a skill level and
a production level. I know awards a

1032
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,640
bunch of dudes have made. The
last piece for me is like watching the

1033
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,199
tape because I watch NBA basketball.
This is the time of the year where

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01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:08,239
I watch college basketball ironically getting ready
for that draft, and so I'm getting

1035
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:13,479
a field for dudes. My colleague
Sam Desini, my guy, like he

1036
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,720
has this big draft guide out.
He has part of it his top one

1037
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,880
hundred or whatever, and I look
at that and I'm like, Okay,

1038
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:25,079
a team that has a thirtieth pick, you should only consider guys thirty and

1039
01:17:25,119 --> 01:17:30,880
below right wrong for two reasons.
Number One, just because a draft expert

1040
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,079
has his rankings doesn't mean that teams
are going to think the same way.

1041
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:39,840
Okay. The you know, there's
a lot of groups speak that comes with

1042
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,159
this, and you have to understand
that I always play the Jay z Ignorance

1043
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,119
shit track around the time of the
year. You know, you can listen

1044
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:49,760
to it for yourselves, Like this
is the time of the year where you

1045
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,960
get a whole bunch of people saying
stuff they lying. So just because the

1046
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,239
industry is like he's going to go
number one every now again, Anthony Benett

1047
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:02,680
goes number one, okay, So
you have to understand for a brief period

1048
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:08,680
of time. You know, you
have to understand that just because a guy

1049
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:15,680
is like ranked fifteen by you know, Christen's Peak, doesn't mean that they're

1050
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,760
going to be the fifteenth draft pick. I remember they were talking about Kavan

1051
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:24,760
Looney and Kevin Porter Junior as lottery
picks. Those zudes both win thirtieth in

1052
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:30,319
their respective drafts, and those zudes
are both NBA starters and not just fringe

1053
01:18:30,359 --> 01:18:35,920
starters, Like I mean one of
the Yeah, I know, Kevin Port

1054
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,359
Junior plays one one of the worst
teams in basketball, but this dude also

1055
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:45,199
gave Drew Holiday fifty okay, like
that, Like you can find dudes,

1056
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:49,720
So you have to assume that if
you're at thirty, just because of dudes

1057
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,760
ranked twenty doesn't mean he might slip
and you might he might be available.

1058
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,800
So I gotta have a respectable range
of those guys. But then the other

1059
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,920
reason that is even more real.
If you file the Clippers just because you're

1060
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,840
at a spot, you can still
trade up. They didn't make a trade

1061
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,800
last year, and we made a
big deal l frank about. Hey man,

1062
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,199
it's the first time you ever didn't
make a trade on draft day.

1063
01:19:12,279 --> 01:19:15,279
Ever the dude ran that was that
was what the fifth sixth draft that he

1064
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:19,439
ran. So you expect them to
make a move. And I would say

1065
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:26,000
they're more likely to move up in
the draft than they are to move down

1066
01:19:26,079 --> 01:19:29,399
or out. Consider where they are
at thirty. They would have loved to

1067
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,680
have been twenty this year. I
tell you we all would have loved that.

1068
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,640
I think, well, some teams
you don't care. Some teams you're

1069
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:41,239
literally punting that pit because you're looking
and traded. You're you're putting up for

1070
01:19:41,239 --> 01:19:44,880
sale. The Clippers, I believe, would have wanted to be higher in

1071
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,880
this year's draft. And what that
means to me is they will probably.

1072
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:54,199
I can't be surprised if they find
a way to go up. I won't

1073
01:19:54,199 --> 01:19:58,840
be surprised if they The draft is
about reading the board, okay, So

1074
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,640
you can't go into the draft with
your head set on moving up. Just

1075
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,039
like you can't go in the draft
thinking you're going to trade the number three

1076
01:20:05,079 --> 01:20:12,640
pick to the la Clippard's creating.
So like, so if you're at thirty,

1077
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,520
it's like you are prepared to possibly
go and get a guy that is

1078
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:23,000
slipping way far. You know,
you're not you're not really tripping at pick

1079
01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:25,760
ten and fifteen. But if it's
pick twenty and it's like, oh,

1080
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:31,279
he's still there, maybe those calls
intensify and you look to investigate what it

1081
01:20:31,319 --> 01:20:36,560
would take to move up, you
know, and maybe there's a bunch of

1082
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:42,039
guys and you're like happy with five
guys, you're looking at four of them

1083
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:45,520
still being available. When pick twenty
five comes around, you're probably like,

1084
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,199
we're going to sit right here and
take someone. So there's a lot of

1085
01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:50,279
things that happened in the draft,
and I think a lot of people have

1086
01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:54,560
to understand it. This is not
the NFL. In the NFL, free

1087
01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:00,239
agency starts first, and picks can
just go whenever they go in the BA

1088
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,560
because of our wonderful CBA environment that
we've always been and not just because of

1089
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:10,640
this new one. You know,
uh, you're you're picking, but sometimes

1090
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,760
you wind up picking for another team. Okay, people have to understand that.

1091
01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:21,560
Uh, the Denver Nuggets had the
thirteenth pick in twenty seventeen, and

1092
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,840
they could have picked Bam out of
Bio, who wound up going fourteen?

1093
01:21:26,279 --> 01:21:32,079
You know who wound up picking nobody. They wound up selecting Donovan Mitchell for

1094
01:21:32,119 --> 01:21:36,880
the Utah Jazz so that they could
get two years of Trey Lyles and Tyler

1095
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:43,800
Lightning the NBA champion Denver Nuggets.
You're gonna say, Moody, A oh

1096
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,279
man, Oh my god. Well, I it's crazy that the draft is

1097
01:21:47,279 --> 01:21:50,279
so soon. I'm very excited about
I think about if the Clippers might move

1098
01:21:50,359 --> 01:21:55,520
up. Um Law, We want
to thank you so much. This has

1099
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,279
been so much fun. We're happy
that you're back on the grid a little

1100
01:22:00,319 --> 01:22:03,119
bit, at least at least with
Clippers fans. So you're when does your

1101
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:06,319
draft primer come out? You've been
mentioned a little bit. I'm I'm I'm

1102
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:12,079
I'm literally I'm gonna piece out to
y'all, tag and what ch're gonna TAGGI

1103
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:16,159
And I'm literally like I'm trying to
you know, I got there's gonna be

1104
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:21,720
thirty players that I have a sentence
on. Look, I need people to

1105
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,359
read. Yeah, I need people
to read. Like you know, I

1106
01:22:26,399 --> 01:22:29,479
think y'all judge too many of us
writers because of what we tweet or what

1107
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,079
we what videos we post to you
know, TikTok or I should be like

1108
01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:38,920
Belichick and be like top Graham.
Yeah you know snap face yeah yeah,

1109
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:44,720
yeah, yeah, you know zions
stay off a snap face brouh or maybe

1110
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,079
get on. I don't know what
that is. But like, yo,

1111
01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:53,039
we we write, man, some
of us actually actually about this life,

1112
01:22:53,119 --> 01:22:57,359
you know. We I love doing
this. Uh. And I know some

1113
01:22:57,399 --> 01:23:00,840
people they click out after the first
five hundred words, and that's their prerogative.

1114
01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:04,920
You know. My job is to
make the first five hundred if you

1115
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:09,640
want to get through the whole thing. But I'm telling you, um,

1116
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,840
this is something that I'm really excited
to put out. I really thought about

1117
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,720
this. Um. There are dart
throws because it's the draft, and draft

1118
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,600
is a dart throw. You're not
going to tell us the exact pick at

1119
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,520
number thirty for look, look,
man, you want to you want to

1120
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:30,239
give me a you know, all
of ownership of the DNB or New Mexico

1121
01:23:31,399 --> 01:23:36,359
Arizona Region or whatever job is available, y'all can do that. But every

1122
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:41,399
head personal executive, it's a dart
throw. You can do a whole bunch

1123
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:44,479
of stuff. We have not gotten
the draft down to a science. Just

1124
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,720
because we're not picking you know,
groundbound centers in the top ten, or

1125
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:54,199
or just because we've discovered that small
point guards can be selected later, that

1126
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:57,920
doesn't mean we figured this draft thing
out. That goes for the front office

1127
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,680
people. That goes for people like
me who just as happy to get a

1128
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:06,279
chance to learn and cover the picks
when they are made. So that being

1129
01:24:06,319 --> 01:24:12,479
said, it's only entertainment. Enjoy
it. I'm going to enjoy it,

1130
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,239
and I hope you get through it, because as much as I enjoy it,

1131
01:24:15,319 --> 01:24:21,680
I take it seriously. So hopefully
Thursday morning, and we'll see how

1132
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:27,239
things go next week, and more
importantly, we will see how things go

1133
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,720
years down the line when we gotta
talk about how Michael Kidd Gil Chris went

1134
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:36,439
from being, you know, a
great top two pick to a guy who,

1135
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:44,079
yeah, wondering if you ever get
that form right man. Well,

1136
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,239
I cannot wait to eat the piece
Thank you so much, comes out a

1137
01:24:46,279 --> 01:24:49,680
week before the draft. We're gonna
be back next week with a live stream.

1138
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,560
Hang I think during the draft,
which could be a good time,

1139
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:56,000
maybe with Carl Tart, who knows. You can find us on Twitter at

1140
01:24:56,039 --> 01:25:00,399
Clippers Pod. You can find a
Law on Twitter at at Law Worried the

1141
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,119
new that is and you. Adam
Oslem has follow Adam A I am at

1142
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:08,079
Chuck Mockler, Well Updike sends his
regards. He cannot be here. We

1143
01:25:08,199 --> 01:25:11,520
thank you everyone for listening. Please
rate us and review us. Adam anything

1144
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,399
you want to say to these wonderful
Clippers fans as we let them go on

1145
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,880
this way too cool June evening.
Yeah, first of all, I'm glad

1146
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:23,279
we could be the primer before Law
writes his draft primer. Second of all,

1147
01:25:23,399 --> 01:25:28,960
at Clippers Podcast on YouTube, at
clippers Pod on Twitter is where you

1148
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,680
can find us. Let's go.
We will see y'all next week.