WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:06.519 The following is a presentation of play Fly Sports properties in Michigan State Sports Properties. 2 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:00.600 Pleasant, good evening, every one. It is Thursday, June first, 3 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.239 two thousand and twenty three. I'm your host, Jason Straighthorn along my 4 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:10.480 co host hold Us, Wiley and Jay. You shoot you culprit, and 5 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:15.359 this is Sparta MS. You don't forget to click the like and subscribe button. 6 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.439 If you're new to the show, Thank you. Welcome to the party. 7 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.079 Don't forget the live party. The live chat is where the party is 8 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.200 at. Going there, log out, you know, do your li and 9 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.760 subscribe, Come back in and hang out with everybody. Don't forget to tell 10 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:34.760 us where you're from. 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Hey fellow us, So it's Thursday, June first, It's full 20 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.280 contact season in the recruiting world. How you guys doing today? I made 21 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.759 it to Thursday. Man, this holiday had me jacked up, right, 22 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:31.000 This Friday's trash day? Like what's going on? Yeah? This holiday had 23 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:35.639 every you had me messed up too, But uh, you know today I 24 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.120 came. You know, I mold mode. Some stripes in the yard, 25 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:45.080 some stripes. Oh, we did improve a picture, like is you gotta 26 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:47.360 missing? You got some you got missing? Grass blades popping up, don't 27 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:51.520 you? No? No, no, I I like it. That's my 28 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:53.280 that's my thing, you know, mowing the line. I sit on my 29 00:02:53.319 --> 00:03:01.039 mower. I you don't got your yard? Oh my god? You out 30 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:07.080 here walking? Look straight? Straight? Hasn't he straight? Doesn't have those 31 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:08.840 problems because he, uh, he lives in the development. They cut it 32 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.879 for him, right, right, That's what I'm talking about. About. 33 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:20.000 Now out there did the little weed eating and everything? You know, he 34 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.319 need proofs, right, we see how you do? He need proof? 35 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.240 Look? Look straight out here, I'm mute. We know he didn't gets 36 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:38.520 Friday. You know a little feedback. So let's is it you I don't 37 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:44.840 have any feedback. Well I'll be right back. Go ahead, let's do 38 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:52.240 this. I'll be right back. Oh man, well too, Like June, 39 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.560 I'm looking forward to omous in this conversation because June last year, you 40 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:59.840 know, we didn't have this podcast started right, so we were I was 41 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:05.719 just started in my role as the general manager here and I got the chance 42 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:11.280 to finally take in like not say the noise, but more so like the 43 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.719 mel Tucker isms, right like who he is, what he's been from? 44 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:18.319 Afar and you know that June last year, bro, Like, we're looking 45 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.199 forward to uh, you know, seeing and talking through it. I know 46 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:26.319 a lot of our subscribers and our our followers are waiting for our guests to 47 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:30.319 pop on as well. But um, let's talk about the schedule, man, 48 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.560 Like there's an uproar right now. Man. When he got to pick 49 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:36.079 ten this we talked about last what's our last episode? Were talking about the 50 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:42.000 contract be inside of the NBC. There was two episodes and when we talked 51 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:47.279 about that game being moved to ford Field and everything about that you know, 52 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.079 it's like everyone relaxed, don't don't throw the baby out the bath water. 53 00:04:51.199 --> 00:05:00.639 Yet it's the same I've never heard that same someone in the baby out the 54 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:04.040 water. Yeah, just don't throw the baby out with the bath water. 55 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:17.399 Many appreciate OG coming in like this happen what you're talking about. Fixed fellas 56 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.360 were good. We're good to go. When we're talking about it. We 57 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.000 talked about astray as you went off, it was saying that, Uh, 58 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.600 I think this is now the trickle down effect of the repercussions of not having 59 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.959 a sign contract in my opinion, with the NBC Big Ten, because you 60 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:39.319 got Peacock, you got NBC, and you've got different matchups that are getting 61 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:44.199 prime time versus like in our opinion, I would think the Washington Michigan State 62 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:48.199 is a primetime game. But we look at it. You see the upward 63 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:53.879 of uproar of hey, we're only on Peacock, which is a streaming service 64 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.000 and you got to have a subscription. You got to be a subscribe for 65 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:01.399 your member for it. So it's an up war For my job, I'm 66 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:06.759 thinking about how how many eyes are gonna be watching that game invisible to corporate 67 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:12.439 partners. I'm looking at that element standpoint from a working standpoint, But what 68 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.360 are you? What's your thought? Astralian? You know Peacock, I know 69 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.639 we were you were enough war When you saw it news like what's going on? 70 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:23.600 Jay? You said some different words. I you know, a little 71 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:28.560 little little excellent, it was little beeps. But look I saw Peacock, 72 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:32.759 you know, struggle mightily last year with Thursday Night Football with the NFL. 73 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:38.160 They had terrible matchups and you know, it wasn't very good service. So 74 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:42.839 what I see to them being a streaming service taking our Washington game, which 75 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.639 to me, Washington's gonna come into Spartan Stadium as a top ten opponent. 76 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:50.279 Um, you know, you have Michael Pennox junior who has beat Michigan State 77 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.839 I believe three times in his career, two or three times at once in 78 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:57.519 Indiana and I think another time. I think, so it's two times at 79 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.360 Washington. He's coming into Spartan Stadium. Guy. It was a first round 80 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:05.480 talent caliber type of quarterback going against Michigan State's brand of defense. And you 81 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:10.079 know, there's some questions from Michigan State, but definitely, in my opinion, 82 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:15.120 a bigger matchup than Purdue versus Syracuse, which NBC took as the primetime 83 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.879 game. You know, nothing against purdueing in Syracuse, but you know, 84 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:24.959 in doing some little polling on my own around, I think that the Washington 85 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.519 Michigan State game going to be a bigger game. That's just me. I 86 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.040 think that, Uh, we'll see how it works. I know that people 87 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:35.360 will be listening to the broadcast more than they did otherwise, so shoot too, 88 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:39.279 you better be right on point on the sideline day. You know, 89 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.000 Yeah, we're gonna have some more. I think you're gonna have a lot 90 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:48.959 of spartans sharing their past code passwords, multiple households like that Netflix but Bacco. 91 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:53.240 But you know, you see, somebody's posted Pea Kays on special now 92 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.720 in nineteen ninet nine for the year, so the time is now, which 93 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:00.920 I think that's a good strategy from their brand's perspective. But for us, 94 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.839 it's like listen, man, we need we need all the spartanations between the 95 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.639 end that's near and far right. So I think we're gonna see possibly there 96 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.199 may be some shuffling that they may you know, added or switch it, 97 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.120 but at this point the damage has been done. I mean, we've we've 98 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.040 done a lot of different news with the Ford field with this now and it's 99 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:22.600 just like, man, what else next? Man, we're gonna be, 100 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:28.240 uh, we're gonna be a Big ten plus like that's going on next. 101 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.680 You just know they never know you wake up, it's a different news that's 102 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.399 happening. So it's gonna be interesting to see you go ahead to My whole 103 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.480 thing with it is it's all optics, you know. I think it's, 104 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:46.000 um, it's all about optics. Now you're you're the Big Ten Conference, 105 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.399 all right, There's the SEC Conference and the Big Ten Conference are the two 106 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:56.000 premier conferences in college football right now, barn, I don't care what you 107 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.759 say. You know, you have clumped them down there in the A SEC 108 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.000 whatever. You know, there's onesie Tuesies, But SEC and Big Ten are 109 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.559 the two premier conferences in college football. And I think it's optics overall. 110 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.039 Like if you're playing a game on a streaming platform, you know that's not 111 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:18.960 very good optics. You know, Um, it's like watching you know, 112 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:22.720 because I you know, once I saw this on Peacock and uh, I 113 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.720 go back to like when I was playing, you know, in the NFL 114 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:31.720 and guys would make jokes with each other about their games not being televised on 115 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.279 primetime or national TV that they'll be like, oh, you guys used to 116 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.600 play on TVs. You guys used to play on Cartoon Network, you know 117 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.360 all those things, and now it's like you're playing on Peacock. You know. 118 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:48.440 It's like I get where, you know, what NBC's going, you 119 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.279 know, trying to build their brand with their their streaming platform, and I 120 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.200 get all these you know, young kids, you know they're streaming and everything 121 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:01.919 like that. But I think from a brand prospective, you know that you 122 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:07.360 know that game, especially that you know primetime, you know as the game 123 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:09.799 first it's a five o'clock kickoff, like I haven't heard of a college kick 124 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:16.679 at five o'clock. Um. And uh second, you know that you can 125 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:24.480 create so yeah, but you know it's like you know, I don't you 126 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.639 know, I've been So that's that's my issue with it. It's it's it's 127 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:31.320 just you know, that's a marquee matchup there, Washington's no slouch, and 128 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.879 now they're coming over here two Eastlands in two play and now this game has 129 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:41.320 being you know, on a streaming platform only, so that's where I think 130 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.000 there's a little slight. There's a little you know, I get if it 131 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.960 was a Central Michigan game, I'm fine with that being you know, like 132 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.879 that's fine, you know, the beginning of the year, you know, 133 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.600 everything like that, it's not. But this is a Marquis game. Um, 134 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.039 I grew up three and a half hours from Syracuse. People there don't 135 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:01.480 even want to see Syracuse play, so you know, like, you know, 136 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.600 why are they on the NBC. So that's just my my take on 137 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:11.159 it. It's all about optics. Yeah, it's it's something different to the 138 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.759 new world we're entering into, you know, not just a transfer portal nil, 139 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:20.879 but you also have streaming games at five pm. They're watching us over 140 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:28.519 in Mississippi, New York, Jersey. Yeah, they're down watching this. 141 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:35.879 I'm surprised Jay didn't bring up Bret fire, but uh money, hey, 142 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:37.519 we got to give him. Shout out to the people in Lansing to south 143 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:43.519 side, whole west side, everybody that's in Lansing and East Lansing. Thank 144 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:52.480 you guys for all. Yeah some Portland Okay, ye, come on, 145 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:56.720 I hope those people were safe from far from Mississippi. Oh my goh my 146 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:07.919 goodness. No, look we're talking about this guy listening. We talked about 147 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.200 this too, like this is like it was it last Tuesday and Thursday. 148 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.200 I said, just we just need to win. Let's just win like whatever 149 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.720 it is, man, the case may be, stuff moving all around us. 150 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:24.200 Just focus on beaton Washington regardless of its own prime time or on streaming. 151 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.120 Let's just compete and win the game and then let the let the chest 152 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.720 fall when they may on that one. But it is what it is. 153 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.360 But agree with I agree with you, Otis. I think you're one hundred 154 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.480 percent right. If we win, we're gonna earn more of these these key 155 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.399 matchups. Look at the Lions, you know they didn't win, and that's 156 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.120 why they played at one o'clock every single every single game. You gotta earn 157 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.480 these games. And last year, from last year's record, we did not 158 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.320 earn it. But hopefully, you know, we start turning the ties and 159 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.320 then there's that battle for Michigan State, you know between you know, Fox, 160 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.360 between CBS, between NBC, you know, all those different things. 161 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.879 Hopefully you know that winn it's gonna solve all those things. Great point too, 162 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.919 and great point for you down in Tampa, Florida, who's also tuned 163 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.159 in. You know, before we move on to another subject, we gotta 164 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:16.639 just bring on the president guru are recruiting and all things related to Michigan State. 165 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.679 And that's Corey Robinson from two four seven Sports, who joins this is 166 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.759 spartan. How are you doing, Corey? Oh I'm doing good. How 167 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.000 are you guys doing? Oh? We blessed every time you come here, 168 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.919 man, because everybody's like, I'm tuning in Corey's on, man, so 169 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:37.440 we're excited, Bro, welcome back. Yeah. I guess my thought Wayne, 170 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.159 And then the Peacock thing too, is I don't think they mean it 171 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:45.799 as like a slight to Michigan State in Washington game. I think they just 172 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:50.759 think that they're being profound with putting it on streaming. But yeah, I'm 173 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.799 with you guys. I think just keeping it right there where everybody has it 174 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:01.240 is a better move financially for everybody. But I mean, they know more 175 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.159 than we do. But yeah, I think it is more of a they're 176 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.559 saying, oh, let's hype this game up on this peacock channel, which 177 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.559 all of us it's kind of weird, but I think it was meant to 178 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.440 kind of highlight it, but they just probably did a bad job of doing 179 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.240 it in our heads at least. Oh, so you think this is a 180 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.840 good thing for Peacock. Obviously it should be high ratings for Peacock. Yeah, 181 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.200 I mean I think it's they're They're probably gonna try and pull games, 182 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.840 you know, to try and build that brand to make people have to get 183 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:37.080 it. But whether it works or not, I mean, all four of 184 00:14:37.200 --> 00:15:01.679 us will be in the stadium, so I guess this is watch an MMA 185 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:07.320 fight, but met from their the crowd. Yeah. Before we talk about 186 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:11.039 you know, the camp that you were at today down in downtown Detroit, 187 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:15.000 Wayne State, we're gonna cover a little bit of basketball from Michigan State, 188 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:18.360 which the news, the talk of the town is that aj Holgard and Jay 189 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.279 Nakins both decided to come back and not and remove their name out of the 190 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:28.879 NBA Draft. Yeah. I think that's huge news for Michigan State. I 191 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:33.039 think it was expected when they went in that that's what the outcome would be. 192 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.240 But until they actually come back, you never never know what the guys 193 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:43.600 are gonna do. But for Michigan State, now that catapults them to one 194 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.200 of the top two or three teams. I think we kin turned the season 195 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:50.600 to win the national championship, so yeah, it's huge news for them. 196 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.480 I think he might even see like Jaden Aikins, I think he might come 197 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.159 with a big chip on the shoulder too coming back. I think he was 198 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:06.000 the guy that maybe feels disrespected a little bit because he did do a lot 199 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:11.240 of good things for Michigan State last year on both sides of the ball, 200 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.600 on defense and offense. He shot the ball pretty well, so I think 201 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.600 maybe you'll see him come back with more of a chip on his shoulder, 202 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.440 trying to prove the NBA people that he was ready to go now. So 203 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:27.480 I think and for him, I think the key is just consistently every game 204 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.279 just knowing what you're going to get out of him and defining the role a 205 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.960 little bit bigger Corey, what are you know based off of the going into 206 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:44.039 the draft and then getting the analysis back to your name on have you heard 207 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:48.320 anything in the streets are like across you know, basketball world of what those 208 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.519 two need to actually work on in the all season and obviously for the season 209 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.519 to then prepare them pupilled themselves in the better spot when it comes to putting 210 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.840 the name into the draft. Um yeah. I think for Hoguard, it's 211 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:07.799 just getting the jump shot more consistent, maybe continuing to get his body in 212 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.039 shape a little bit more. He's done a good job since he's been here, 213 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.599 but then the NBA, the game's a little quicker. So I think 214 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:19.039 for aj it's just getting that shot more consistent and just continuing to get in 215 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:25.319 better shape. And then for Aikins, I think it's just consistency. I 216 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:29.119 know I was talking to people if he was six foot five or high or 217 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:33.160 taller, like he would be off to the league right now, probably in 218 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.519 the lottery discussion. But he's in that six two, six three range, 219 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.319 so I think that's kind of an he's almost got a knock on them, 220 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:44.039 where what he did at six foot two and six foot three would have been 221 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:47.920 good enough at six foot five. So I think for him, it's just 222 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.000 coming back every single game, being consistent, maybe showing that he can create 223 00:17:52.079 --> 00:18:00.279 a little bit more. And then I think for Jadeen Aikins and Michikins State, 224 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.960 I think it would be really good to isolate him a little bit more. 225 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:06.599 I think that's something he's wanting to do and that's something he can do, 226 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.960 and I think it's some team Michigan State needs because as good as they 227 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.039 were last year, there's a lot of times that they got really stagnant offensively. 228 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.279 So maybe you could go with more of an NBA approach where you find 229 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:23.279 matchups from each play to, you know, and kind of exploit a defense. 230 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:27.960 Whether that's from Aikins at the on the wing at the three, or 231 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:33.640 whether it's a AJ Hogard or Tyson Walker. You know, you have a 232 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.400 lot of options of how you can attack a defense with those three because they're 233 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.880 all pretty much a good ball handlers and they can create off of the dribble. 234 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:47.359 So I think it would be best for Michigan State and is Oh even 235 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:51.279 to kind of expand Aikin's role and let him kind of create a little bit 236 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:55.680 more off of the dribble. That's a great point because he last year. 237 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:57.839 You know, Max Christie did a similar thing. He tested the waters, 238 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:02.240 but he decided to stay in the draft and he ended up going second round 239 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:06.440 to the LA Lakers, and he contributed a little bit during the playoff run 240 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:11.480 that LA had. So you know you're seeing this now with Agent with Hoguard 241 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.400 and Ankin's both coming back there the national champions of the final four. Talk 242 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:19.519 will be in East Lansing for sure. You have a great recruiting classes coming 243 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:26.079 in. I also saw that Purdue center the player of the year, returning 244 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:30.119 player of the year eating he's coming back. So what does that say? 245 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:36.039 Just in the full five starters for Purduer coming back? Who won the Big 246 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:40.920 Ten tournament I think in regular season right last year? Um, what do 247 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:45.039 you guys think about that? Taiwan will have to wait a year for him? 248 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:53.240 Tai one, he's not gonna be an NBA player. Man him like 249 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.440 like twelve games without one foul, committee one foul. I don't know how 250 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:02.119 you do it? Would do if I his Michigan State is, uh, 251 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:06.680 you're not gonna get somebody that's gonna be able to stop him down in the 252 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:10.839 post and all that. But if I was Michigan State, I would exploit 253 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.440 him on the defensive end and make him go guard a Malik Hall or make 254 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:21.559 him go guard Xavier Booker on the wing, stuff like that. Go get 255 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:25.640 some shooters at the five and actually exploit him that way, because I mean, 256 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:30.480 he's gonna do what he's gonna do. Whether you have Malik Hall guarding 257 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.160 him, or Joey Houser last year, or whether you had Madi Sosako. 258 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.720 He's just that's what he's gonna do. So I think you counter it with, 259 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:42.599 you know, making him have to move and go out on the perimeter 260 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:48.079 and guard people. And then if you get in situations where you can take 261 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.039 them off of the dribble, maybe you can get him in the foul trouble 262 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.079 if that's possible. Yeah. So my thing is is a going back to 263 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.720 the Michigan State stuff. You know, all the excitement in eastla Ansome with 264 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.200 um, you know, both those guys coming back, the recruiting class coming 265 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:10.599 in and there's still some really good players that's on the team. Um only 266 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.559 five people can play at a time, you know, is there enough ball 267 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.880 to go around? Like you know what you know, how do you know 268 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.079 as a like you know, ISO has been in a long time, but 269 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:25.000 how do you you know check you know, egos and everything like that to 270 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:27.440 to uh, you know, all come together for one goal, you know, 271 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:32.599 because like is that just it's too much? Is there's such a thing 272 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:37.759 as too much talent on one team? Yeah? I think I think Michigan 273 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:42.799 State though time as those created a different culture. So so now that culture 274 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:47.519 all summer, when these guys come in, it's not gonna be about themselves. 275 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.680 It's going to be about the championship. Which I mean obviously times I 276 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:56.359 was always kind of focused on winning in championships, but I think coming in 277 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.279 this year, everybody on the roster understands that, you know, this is 278 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:07.799 a legitimate national championship contending team, so maybe you put the egos aside for 279 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.920 the betterment of the team, which I think Tom Iszzo has done as good, 280 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:15.599 if not better than anybody at getting guys to be able to do that. 281 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.880 Like whether you look at even how the Transer portal is so rampant and 282 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:27.079 college basketball and college football, but you're not seeing that affect tom Izzo as 283 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:32.720 much negatively or positively. You know, he just buy He gets the guys 284 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:36.079 to buy him too, what the mission at hand is and what the team 285 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:40.559 is. So yeah, I think if you know, obviously there's gonna be 286 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.599 guys that are always going to want to do more or get more minutes. 287 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:48.359 But I think tom Izzo and then having the seniors, Aj Hogard, Tyson 288 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:55.319 Walker, Aikin's coming back, Malik Hall, everybody's going to just kind of 289 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.920 be like, hey, this we're playing for a championship. Let's let's make 290 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:03.319 this work out. And the big games where some guys don't play as much, 291 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:04.440 but then they might play more of the next game, and you can 292 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:10.200 just base it off of matchups and how they're playing that night, that night 293 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:17.680 early on, and we're forgetting about baby Jack's Cooper. Yeah in the WOLAS 294 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:19.960 season, but I'm gonna go out. I'm going out on a ju whim 295 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:27.039 here. The recruiting class and the one one that we have not truly been 296 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:32.519 highlighted talking about, Like Xavier Book is obviously leading guy, your Jeremy Fears, 297 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:37.200 but Cohen Carr, like, we're talking about an electric flying guy. 298 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.880 High flying you have never seen. I've never seen a highlight where you're shooting 299 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:45.079 a jumper. But he's gonna be a ball starper defender gritty, but he's 300 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.799 gonna be that like guy that's gonna be able to push and help us on 301 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.119 that defensive end. When you know, we struggled a little bit last season, 302 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.759 and I feel like this season there's really no room forever because we are 303 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:59.680 veterans now right. We have a veteran team who has played and did that 304 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:03.559 long stretch last year, which is gonna you know, get us that itch 305 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.279 too. We can win it all versus like last year where we had the 306 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.759 injuries we've had, you know, some issues with chemistry. But I think 307 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.079 now they understand that how they played together. So I'm looking forward to, 308 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.720 you know, seeing it, and I know Father Thim has got his feet 309 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.839 kicked up, just like feeling good man like it's it's a breadth of fresh 310 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.799 year. And then you know they're on the recruiting trail now to secure that 311 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.839 other class for you know, the next class. But it's gonna be electrifying, 312 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.680 uh in Breslyn, and I can't wait for it. That's a great 313 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.240 point. I mean you talk about Tom Innzo. You know, I for 314 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.920 one, like our chances Tom Nzo versus Matt Painter if it ends up being 315 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:45.440 that for our championship or any kind of game. In my opinion, I'm 316 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:51.240 thinking is over Matt Painter from Purdue Produce men's head basketball coach Tom Menzo. 317 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:56.039 But there's been some talk about the coaching staff at Michigan State, where one 318 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.519 Emani Bates discusses his decision a decommend from Michigan State in twenty twenty two, 319 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:10.839 any sites Michigan State having not as good of a coaching staff, um as 320 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:14.079 I guess Eastern Michigan. I think we have the article. It's Memphis. 321 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:18.480 It's Memphis. I think we have the article. Um, then we can 322 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:23.119 pull up hopefully why we're doing that if you want to talk about that not 323 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:33.279 coaching, y'all see Penny throw that water bottle? Enough said, Enough said, 324 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.400 Uh, honestly, why are we listing our time with this dude? 325 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.920 Man? Like we get it in money? You would you was a dude. 326 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.200 He was like Lebron Uncover, Like, we get it, man. 327 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.720 He was a dog. He was coming out. But you know Jay Nakins 328 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.680 played with him money and that Bates. It was a development where the Bates 329 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.359 Academy, and you saw how that fizzled and went down quick. Um. 330 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:03.119 And so maybe it's you our brother from the standpoint, and like clearly we 331 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:10.440 went further into the tournament um than they did, and um, that's Memphis. 332 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:11.839 But why is he talking about that when he was in Eastern Michigan. 333 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.559 Right, So it's kind of like, hey, man, like, don't 334 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.720 use us for cloud when you try to. You know, we had you 335 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.599 and you said knowledge, they know what it is like just right, let's 336 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.839 let it go, let it go. And at the time too, like 337 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.279 you know, I think, you know, looking back at everything that's transpired 338 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.599 and everything like that, Emani Bates needed Tom is a more than Tomzoe needed 339 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:41.279 Demonti Bates um you know, through personal growth and developmental and everything like that. 340 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.720 I think it's it's very easy and very simple to say that fact there. 341 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.920 But um, you know he's not with us. Good luck to him, 342 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.240 um at e m u um. And you know, let's let's get 343 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:57.720 excited about the guys that we have, you know coming back. Yeah, 344 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:03.079 you know, I for one, one for Jordan guy than a Lebron guy. 345 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.920 But when you look at what happened with a guy like Hemani Bates coming 346 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.960 out of high school with all the hype, it does make you give you 347 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.279 more respect for Lebron because he was able to live up to those and exceed 348 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.359 some of those expectations at an early age. Not easy to do with that 349 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.839 spotlight following you around as you've seen some of the ups and downs with the 350 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:23.640 money. But look, best of luck to him as he continues I think 351 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.519 he's in the draft, right, you know, I believe he's moving on 352 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.759 to the NBA. But I just wanted to get Corey's take on that because 353 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.440 you know, I know Corey, you come follow the whole commitment, the 354 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.799 progress of him going from school to school and all that. So what is 355 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.039 your thought of him making a statement like this? Yeah, I think it's 356 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:47.000 just probably shows everything that's wrong with the money bates the last couple of years. 357 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.160 Like that's not even something he should be talking about in the draft because 358 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:56.319 like, like he's not making himself look good. They give you because I 359 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.400 think time is though, and Michigan State's coaching staff and the su us they've 360 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.000 had, you know, they have a lot of respect from the NBA people. 361 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:08.519 So to have somebody that hasn't lived up to what his hype was in 362 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:14.559 two years, does that make him look like like he's still got like some 363 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.559 bitterness of about the whole situation and how everything played out for him. And 364 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.119 that's probably not a good look for Amani and where he's kind of a guy 365 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.960 that he just needs to keep growing on the court and off the court, 366 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:33.200 and he probably didn't show that and his draft interviews and Uh yeah, I 367 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:41.119 also agree with Jay who that I think Tomizzo was what Amani needed, assuming 368 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.920 that everybody else in his circle would let it happen the way it needed to 369 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:49.640 happen. Because you look at him, he's not a very complete basketball player. 370 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.960 Uh you know, he just chucks three point shots. So his shot 371 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.000 percentage isn't that good. So even on the games that he scored a lot, 372 00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.759 most of the time, it wasn't an efficient scoring game. Uh, 373 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:07.079 doesn't get back on defense, doesn't really rebound. So that's that's a difference 374 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:12.319 with him and Lebron is Lebron was driven to keep getting better at every aspect 375 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.599 of the game and not just one part of the game. So the big 376 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:21.559 difference between the two of them just in the way they approached there. They're 377 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:26.799 Startdom and their fandom and just having that pressure on them, lots of pressure, 378 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.920 definitely lots of pressure. 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Help you you 388 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.359 better say, boy, come on now, look at that. Let's go 389 00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:56.000 to hell. Yeah, and cousins, I mean they get hyped about the 390 00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.519 pancakes around here, Corey, what can we say? I mean, Grey's 391 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.359 first June first, What does that mean to the football recruiting calendar? That 392 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:11.039 is go ahead? And it means a lot of people, a lot of 393 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:17.160 coaches and a lot of writers like myself that cover recruiting aren't going to get 394 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.400 a lot of sleep in the next month. But you know, that's what 395 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.119 the adrenaline get you going through there, and that's why we all like it. 396 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.400 You know, it's the busiest month in recruiting. I think. Then 397 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.799 obviously in December you got to sign all these guys that you get committed, 398 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.880 which nowadays is always an extra challenge. But yeah, I think, you 399 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:45.440 know, it's a moment now that where Michigan State's gonna start to stack momentum 400 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:51.200 positive momentum. I think they've kind of if you look at them the last 401 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:56.079 December for the twenty three class, I thought they closed extremely well. They 402 00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.920 stacked a lot of really good signings, and then uh, maybe from January 403 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:06.319 up to now, honestly, like if you look at them as a program 404 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.559 recruiting and just in general with the roster, it seems like they've kind of 405 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.559 struggled to you know, they get one commitment, but then they have someone 406 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.640 dcommit or somebody transfer off of the team, or you know, there's always 407 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.359 something, there's always a shoe falling from it, and they were never really 408 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:28.000 stacking good news back to back to back. I'm there where now. I 409 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:32.279 think this month you're going to see Michigan State have a ton of success recruiting. 410 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.119 They've kind of stacked the board up in a good way where they have 411 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.400 a lot of highly rated kids that you know, or they're not looking for 412 00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.319 that huge payday like maybe some of the guys that you saw on campus last 413 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:52.200 June was we're looking for in their recruitment, So I think they found themselves 414 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.559 a little bit more. Some of that has to do with you know, 415 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.799 you came off of eleven and two. The hype factor was up there. 416 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.319 You had a lot of momentum going. But at the same point, I 417 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.079 think they kind of lost focus of where they were and who they are and 418 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:14.079 you know how they're gonna be successful here. So you look at this first 419 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.720 weekend, I think they have I think ten commitments. I think one of 420 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.839 the guys is gonna do it later in the month, but I think all 421 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.799 of those kids that are coming up, nine of them are four stars. 422 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.720 The one three stars Henry Hasselback, a quarterback out of Massachusetts, which the 423 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:36.519 last name is probably familiar for most people that watch football. He's the son 424 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:42.759 of Matt Hasselback, who spent I believe fifteen twenty years somewhere in that range 425 00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:49.480 in the NFL. So he's a prospect that's really blown up the last few 426 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.839 months. He's added the Michigan State offer last Saturday, Pitt jumped in with 427 00:33:54.079 --> 00:34:00.359 him. But he's gonna be on campus June second to kind of kick off 428 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.960 that thing for him. I think he's a guy to kind of keep an 429 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.920 eye on. I think Michigan State coaches like him a lot. They like 430 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:14.400 the pedigree he's going to come in, you know, understanding the position a 431 00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.320 little bit better than most. So he's definitely a name to keep an eye 432 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.920 on. And then when you look at the other names, it's a lot 433 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:28.920 of really good athletes at the skill positions on defense and offense. I think 434 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:34.719 Bronte Johnson, he's listed as an athlete Michigan State. He's out of Fort 435 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:38.159 Wayne, Indiana. Michigan State's recruiting him as a wide receiver. I think 436 00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:43.000 most teams are. I think that's his preferred position, but he's also a 437 00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.920 guy that that didn't work out for whatever reason at wide receiver. He's got 438 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.320 an NFL future. It's a defensive back too, so he's one of those 439 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.360 rare athletes that could project to the NFL on either side of the ball. 440 00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.840 I think Michigan State's and a real good spot there with him, kind of 441 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.320 Adeline her Due and Notre Dame. Notre Dame is recruiting him as a defensive 442 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.119 back, so that might hurt them a little bit more just because if he 443 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:15.679 does have a preference of playing wide receiver, and then Dylan Williams out with 444 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:23.000 stray Horne in California, you know a four star linebacker. I think Miami 445 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:29.840 Oregon her kind of two teams that are there hurting up Miami, USC and 446 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.480 Oregon. Think Oregon and Michigan State might be the top two for him going 447 00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.280 into these visits, but he's going to see all three of those schools, 448 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:45.280 probably make a decision before his senior year. Zadavian Sims. He committed to 449 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.960 Oregon. He's scheduled to come up this weekend. He hasn't really said yes 450 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.000 or no one whether he's going to still do that with his commitment. So 451 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:58.960 that's something that we'll be monitoring at Spartan tailgate and everyone else to see if 452 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:04.079 he does end up making it up this weekend. In Quasi Gilmore, another 453 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:09.599 California wide receiver. He's six two one eighty, very athletic, got really 454 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:14.679 good speed. I think when you look at all the wide receivers coming up 455 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.800 this month in June, I think the speed is better with these guys and 456 00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.920 some of the people they've maybe targeted in the past. So you're seeing that 457 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.840 coach Hawkins. Courtney Hawkins is you know, targeting. He wants to get 458 00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:35.840 fast there, so you're seeing that emphasis. And then Marcellis Barnes four star 459 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:42.400 out of Tennessee, a cornerback six foot two hundred seventy pound corner He likes 460 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.000 Michigan State a lot. Harlan Barnett kind of got the ball rolling with him. 461 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:52.679 And then Jim Sogato is kind of taken over and played a major role 462 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.920 in the last month or so since he's been here and kind of settled in. 463 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.400 So that's the guy that Michigan States sitting in a good spot with. 464 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.519 He would be a huge edition if they're able to pull that off. I 465 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:08.320 think he's a top three hundred kid nationally, so this is one of the 466 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:15.679 better players. Cannon Daniels five eleven, ninety pound running back from Mississippi. 467 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:21.679 He's currently committed to Florida, but Michigan State jumped in on him actually kind 468 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.880 of late, and they were able to get him to set up an official 469 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:30.840 really quick. So it's kind of interesting that they were able to go jump 470 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:35.000 in for a guy that committed to a good school like Florida that's had some 471 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.360 success putting running backs out there and get him to lock in an official visit 472 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:45.920 really quickly. He's an electric running back, just really good speed that translates 473 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.760 over to the field. I think he's maybe maybe a four or four or 474 00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.599 four or five type of guy on the track, but he plays faster than 475 00:37:53.679 --> 00:38:00.559 that, quick twitch kind of guy. Jalen Thompson, he's committed to State. 476 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:05.480 I believe at this point he's the longest tenured commit due to a couple 477 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.400 of d commitments. But he's out of Tennessee four star. You know, 478 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:15.079 he's gonna be on campus being able to recruit a lot of these guys that 479 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.599 we've mentioned, you know, and trying to get them to join him, 480 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.440 especially Marcelis Barnes, so I mentioned earlier. Those two are good friends, 481 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:28.719 both from Tennessee. They play seven v seven together, so he's a good 482 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.880 one. And then uh Logan Bennett, the offensive line commitment out of Maryland 483 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.760 Saint Francis Academy. I know, Jason, you know that program well, 484 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.360 as they played IMG there, I'd put them right up there in that same 485 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.880 class as IMG and Minor Day and Bosco out in California. It's maybe those 486 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:53.599 four schools that really stick out nationally. They play a national schedule. I 487 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.400 think I think we have him as a three star. I think he should 488 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:05.440 probably be borderline four at six foot six, three hundred fifteen pound guard playing 489 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:09.199 a national schedule the way he does. A really good athlete and very strong 490 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:15.599 kid. Then he plays offensive line. What that means treat which is what 491 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.679 you want out of your linemen to give those guys that don't like to lose 492 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.800 a rep and will bury the guy in the ground. And then Eric Karner, 493 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:28.039 he's a three star right now, a tight end out of Illinois at 494 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.199 six five, two twenty. I think he's a guy that's got a really 495 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:37.000 good chance at becoming a four star with US at twenty four seven. He's 496 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.920 kind of blown up this offseason as more people have gotten to see his junior 497 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.280 film and as he just continues to grow and mature as a player. So 498 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:52.599 they have a huge first weekend of visitors coming up. Man, this gave 499 00:39:52.719 --> 00:40:01.000 is a lot of rundown right there that needed the water come up, come 500 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:05.599 up for Eric Cord. I mean you brought up logan been in an interior 501 00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.599 offensive line. I don't know, you guys always, I don't know what 502 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:09.679 it is about the interior offensive line that just doesn't get love in the in 503 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.679 the recruiting world. So far, we're working on that though. We're working 504 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.039 on the interior offensive line get in love. But the question that we're getting 505 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.760 from a lot of people and in the chat right now, is David stone 506 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:27.679 the five star defensive tackle out img any word on his official visits? Is 507 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.440 he coming to Michigan State for an official visitor? You have you heard anything 508 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:34.599 from David stones camp? Yeah, yeah, I think he'll take an official 509 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.639 visit to Michigan State. I think they're waiting to kind of see where he's 510 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:45.039 going. Yeah, yeah, Like you know, they want to get one 511 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:50.280 of the later official visits for him, so so they're kind of letting stuff 512 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.400 kind of settle in, see where he locked stuff in and where his recruitment 513 00:40:53.480 --> 00:41:01.360 is going. Since since you know, losing Rand and Jovt, you know, 514 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.880 in Kevin Vickerson obviously that he had a great relationship with and now you 515 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.599 know, you've seen things kind of cool off as far as him going coming 516 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:14.719 up to Michigan State for the unofficials. Where do you think Michigan State stands 517 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.760 with him overall? Right now? Yeah, I think There's been a lot 518 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:21.840 of a lot of change in that recruitment. You know. It's like you 519 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.199 mentioned you had bt that kind of was the first one, and Marco did 520 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:31.039 a really good job with that recruitment and then even said to Leaf that was 521 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:35.000 a guy that you know, he had a really strong relationship with. So 522 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.400 yeah, there's a lot of turnover. I think die Run has done a 523 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.519 pretty good job staying on top of him. But I mean it's still a 524 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.800 lot of change. I think the bigger thing, more than change will be 525 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:52.119 though, is when you see like Oregon, Miami and Texas A and m 526 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:57.480 starting to loom a little larger and the visits become more frequent to those schools. 527 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.039 I mean, we've kind of seen seeing how that works out when when 528 00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:07.159 recruits start going to them high high dollar NIL things. Because I mean, 529 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:08.679 at the same point too, like he's a great player, but at some 530 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.880 point you gotta you know, what, how much is too much in nil 531 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.239 for an unproven high school players? What no matter what is or anything is 532 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:22.960 so so if it gets to that point where the numbers get crazy, you 533 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:28.719 know that's probably not voting well for Michigan State because they're they're not gonna want 534 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:32.360 to spend that type of money for a high school player. That's something you 535 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.440 know, where you want to get the guy and if he's successful here, 536 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.960 then then you get the dealers like this is Sparta gives them a big deal 537 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:45.119 to be their soaked person, and you know that's that's the way it should 538 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.440 work, because at some point, you know, you get some stuff to 539 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.719 come in. Like I'm not saying that's another thing, but at some point 540 00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:57.000 it's got to be you get what you earn once you get here. Um. 541 00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.800 So, Corey, I know earlier when you were talking, you said 542 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.519 a lot of the guys just a change from you know, this June from 543 00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.679 last June. A lot of the guys were high dollar nil guys last June 544 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.079 and this June. It's not like that. What is the difference with that? 545 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.719 What is that? Yeah, it's just you know, with if you're 546 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:21.119 recruiting those guys, you need to really do a good job figuring out where 547 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:27.239 where their priorities are, you know, and like if the guy wants to 548 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.559 get a good, good pay day, that's all for them. I mean 549 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.119 it's easy for me to say that shouldn't be a priority because it's not my 550 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.320 money that's coming to me. So but yeah, it's just getting to know 551 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:44.159 the recruit kind of getting to feel what's driving him, what's the final thing 552 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:50.719 like, because I mean there's cases where I think Samson Oaklola out of Massachusetts, 553 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.679 the five star offensive tackle last year. I think Michigan State would have 554 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.920 won that recruitment if it was straight up, but it wasn't. Miami off 555 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.960 heard him a huge package to go there, and that's where he ended up 556 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:08.840 going utimately. So yeah, yeah, so it's just a matter of figuring 557 00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:15.159 out what the priorities because as prevalent is nil is, there's still a lot 558 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:20.000 of guys that are making the same decisions that all of you guys made it 559 00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:25.480 and you know where relationships, what what degree they're getting education, all that. 560 00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.960 So all those guys still exist out there. There's not a ton of 561 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.719 guys that are just you know, it's not like there's hundreds of guys that 562 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:38.039 are just commanding huge contracts. So it's just figuring out, you know, 563 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:43.800 what guys are, what their priorities are. And if you see guys that 564 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.440 and you know it's the money thing, yeah you stick in it. But 565 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:51.800 you you can't ignore that next tier of guys that is maybe looking for, 566 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.920 you know, the right situation to that point too. You know, we 567 00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.960 talk we're talking about the nil for the high school. Have you been seeing 568 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.920 the shift because I've been reading articles and seeing hearing from from players parents that 569 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.679 there seems to be a shift from the focus of nil dollars going towards the 570 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:15.159 high school kids more towards transfers. Is have you seen that and if so, 571 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.079 what do you attribute all this too? Yeah, I think you're seeing 572 00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:24.440 it there too. It's going throughout the whole thing where U because you spend 573 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.519 so much time, you know, you only have so much money that you're 574 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.039 bringing in from the donors to get these guys. So if you put all 575 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.559 your focus on um acquiring the player out of high school, then you're leaving 576 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:43.199 yourself a little vulnerable on your own roster. So then someone could come in 577 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.440 and swoop in and uh, you know, go after a key on Coleman 578 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:54.159 or something like that. Where you know, So it's like like there's there's 579 00:45:54.199 --> 00:46:00.000 a lot of layers to the problem, I guess because and that's where I 580 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.440 think too, where I was talking about how you want it to get to 581 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.400 the point where guys are getting paid for what they've accomplished on your campus. 582 00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.079 So if you say, all right, we're not going to get in these 583 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.800 crazy number and I l deals out of the recruiting thing, but we're going 584 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.760 to take care of our guys financially once they you know, get here and 585 00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.360 they earn it and do all these things, then maybe you see less of 586 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:30.719 You're not going to lose guys to the trans reports easily. Yeah, you 587 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:36.400 know, speaking of the attrition like not the Arisian, the turnover the Michigan 588 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.360 State's had from the coaching staff. There was an article that The Athletic put 589 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:45.079 out today that featured mel Tucker. If we think we may have that can 590 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:50.840 Melt Tucker Michigan State football find and identity amid transfer portal highs and lows? 591 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:57.320 And this was a great article written by Nicole Arbach and it looks like Jamie 592 00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:01.920 Bardolp that highlighted, you know, Michigan State's highs with acquiring a Kenneth Walker 593 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.280 and then you get poached for the your starting quarterback and Peyton Thorne and Kean 594 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:14.159 Coleman number one receiver and what the road looks like for mel Tucker to rebuild 595 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.519 and find an identity for the brand of football to Michigan say wants to be 596 00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.280 You have been in this recruiting world for Michigan State for a long time, 597 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:29.360 court Mark Dieter Horne Thorne, that's the new recruiting director director or a player 598 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:34.920 personnel. Have you seen him start to get his footing now in the recruiting 599 00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.880 world from Michigan State and start to get a sea legs under him. Yeah, 600 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.880 I think you're starting to see it. But I think we're gonna really 601 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:46.480 notice it more once we see these June official visits and how they differ maybe 602 00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:51.800 from what they did last year. I don't think you're gonna see any goats 603 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:55.039 on the field this year and kind of get back get back to basics, 604 00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:59.719 and but you know, at the same point, he's gonna make the visit 605 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:05.000 and all of that stuff. But you know, I think I think June 606 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.960 is when you'll really see it publicly what the changes are with him, just 607 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:13.039 because he came in so late that he's almost kind of playing catch up too, 608 00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.519 as hard as learning the board and what guys the coaches staff like, 609 00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:22.840 you know, and who he's got a target. So so I think we'll 610 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.639 have a clearer picture after a couple of weeks, maybe a couple of weekends 611 00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.679 here in June, just to see what changes have happened, and you know, 612 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.039 do they shift focus on what they're doing on these visits from the previous 613 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.639 regime to him. So I guess it's just the work in progress right now, 614 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.000 cool are you? You know last June, you know we talked about 615 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:55.159 you know, it was my first experience and seeing like the madness behind this 616 00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.320 June official visits and what we were doing to roll out the red carpet before. 617 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.280 You know, guys that were some committed, some weren't, and they 618 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.400 were just utilizing you know, I don't know if it's a free trip, 619 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.440 but like, you know, what is what is going to be the difference 620 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:15.880 maker for us from last year to this year and converting these recruits and these 621 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:22.800 official visits to truly get to Michigan State because I know we've had some we 622 00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:29.039 had some studs in last last year June where we were close and we've felt 623 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:30.320 after they came here and they left, we were like, oh, we 624 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.360 had them in the in the bag and we were they were gonna be sparks 625 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.800 and then long behold, they post something and they're committed to another school, 626 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.079 Like what are what is it gonna take for us in Michigan State and our 627 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.480 messaging to these recruits coming in June to to get them to commit and you 628 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:50.679 know, stay committed. Yeah, I think you hit it in the head 629 00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.400 with some of them in the bag. I mean, that's probably a lot 630 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:57.320 to do them, but yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean I 631 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:01.719 think it's just getting the right guy he's on campus, and then maybe prioritizing, 632 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.920 you know, where you're at honest, you know, have some honesty 633 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.320 of where you're at with some of these recruits because I know for us, 634 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.119 like we were getting different intel than they were. Uncertain people where you know, 635 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.880 they're like, oh, I think we're in a really good spot for 636 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.760 this guy. And so then you know, I check around with a bunch 637 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.840 of different sources around our network, you know, because that's the good thing 638 00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:30.400 with twenty four seven is it's not just me. I can go talk to 639 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.280 other teams writers. I can talk to our national team, and you know, 640 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.239 their stuff is lining up with what I'm thinking, where maybe some of 641 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.599 the other stuff wasn't, you know, that wasn't lining up with what Michigan 642 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:45.719 state was feeling, or you know, maybe we were better at seeing, 643 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:51.880 hey, this recruitment is going this way because of nil stuff or whatever, 644 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.440 where maybe they didn't they didn't see it the same way as us. So 645 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.400 I think just having a different type of visitor on campus this year is a 646 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:06.519 positive for one. And then I mean, make it as exciting as you 647 00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:10.519 did last year, minus the farm animals, because I mean that's still matters, 648 00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.920 you know, Like I think, you know, I can't confirm whether 649 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.440 they're gonna have cars here, but everybody in the country does cars, and 650 00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:21.280 you know, guys just like cars, So I you know, that's not 651 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:28.400 being overly flashy in my opinions with that, That's just how recruiting works nowadays. 652 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.519 You know, everybody's out there having fun. You know, like if 653 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.920 you guys came on a visit, you want to have fun. You don't 654 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.400 want to just feel like you sat there and listen to lectures and how we're 655 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:42.280 going to do everything. So I think you still see a lot of that. 656 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.639 But I mean for them, I think it's just you know, about 657 00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:52.760 the staff continuing to build strong relationships with the prospects and their families. Like 658 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:58.079 I think offensive line, I think that's a good spot with Cap. I 659 00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:02.400 think he does a really good job get to know the player as a person, 660 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.280 you know, and their family and all that. So he you know, 661 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:12.800 he sticks to that thing. I think some coaches maybe got away from 662 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.920 that a little bit, and not necessarily on their own fault is maybe just 663 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:21.519 some of the targets that they were after that's not what was important to them, 664 00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.559 the relationship part as much. So. So Yeah, I think just 665 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.800 you know, getting the right people, getting to know them and getting to 666 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:38.079 know what matters. I gotta I gotta saw us hear you one. Just 667 00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:46.559 don't throw the baby. You have some great comments here in the in the 668 00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.880 chat you know, there's a there's one chat talk. There's a comment about 669 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.639 seven of the top eight quarterbacks returning the Heisman favorite. So let's bring up 670 00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:00.199 this article and Corey's own company two four seven Sports says, here are the 671 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:06.960 Heisman odds. You have eight quarterbacks here, seven of them are transfers. 672 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:12.599 What does that say about the game as it is today? Fellas well? 673 00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.760 First looking at that list, it seems like bow Knicks have been playing college 674 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:24.239 football forever. He played with me, Nick's been there forever. Yeah, 675 00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:29.199 that's a that's a very interesting thing that they're all transfer Um, you know, 676 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.199 it said, you know, is it about a system that they're in 677 00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:36.559 that it's that's you know, not conducive to their skill set and they have 678 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.519 to go somewhere else to you know, be successful. So that's that's one 679 00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:43.239 of the big questions that I have, is you know, coming out, 680 00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:46.519 you know, are these you know players going into the right system. And 681 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:52.199 it also goes into you know, it said now doesn't have to deal with 682 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:54.639 NIL because these guys that came in it was I think, you know, 683 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:59.679 the original schools were a little before the NIL time was really kicking in, 684 00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.559 and they're transferred to other places. Now they have different weapons around them. 685 00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.039 Um. So I think those are two folds that it'shit the system or it 686 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:12.360 said, you know, transferred to different situation based off niou. Let's let's 687 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:14.360 take a look at the list one more time. If we could pull it 688 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:17.400 back up and see Kaylee Williams. Okay, that's the heisman from winner from 689 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:22.519 last year. He moved with his head coach right from Oklahoma. Just like 690 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:27.119 that's typically what happens, you know, you get them to transfer when the 691 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.760 coach leaves. Um. Yeah, to your point, that's good. That's 692 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.599 a good point, right. Yeah. Jordan Travis, similar situation there. 693 00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:39.239 He's a Florida State. Now, Um, where was he at before Corey? 694 00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.280 I don't remember where he was at. Yeah, Michael PENNOCKX, we 695 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:49.599 know him. He was at Indiana and he went with his offensive coordinator who 696 00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:53.119 became a head coach at Washington bow Knicks. He's been everywhere. Quinn of 697 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.760 yours, he got the he got the double bag. Quinn classed up. 698 00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:00.639 Now that's a guy who classed up. He was a junior in high school, 699 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:05.960 had a million dollars or something offer on the table at Ohio State and 700 00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.400 he just says, you know, I'm graduating now. He just four went 701 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:13.440 four go his senior year of eligibility in high school to get the million. 702 00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:19.079 Then he leaves Ohio State to go to Tennessee. Um, so there's a 703 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.519 bag chaser, like you said, but it was all from Louisville. But 704 00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:24.440 it was a good scene. It was a good scheme too. You know 705 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:30.480 he's still with uh you know Sark coach Sark down down in Austin. Well, 706 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:32.840 he's also in a situation where you got c. J. Stroud and 707 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.159 you have a loaded quarterback room where you know, it's so weird that he 708 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:42.400 picklehod State anyway, because they were already in loaded quarterback room. But I 709 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.760 mean, if you're a quarterback, you're also looking at the team that you're 710 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:46.599 going to try to go to. Is like, dude, they got a 711 00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.559 solid office in line and protect me. Let's we know we are are K 712 00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:53.480 five talked about like do you got guys that are gonna protect my life? 713 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.800 And then do they have weapons that I could throw to? And then ultimately 714 00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.800 it is the system, like the system that gets me to the next level. 715 00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.760 Um, But I just don't understand why we don't get you know, 716 00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:08.239 Pennocks when he goes, I even like what happened with that? Like this 717 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:15.960 these quarterbacks, Like why are some of these quarterbacks coming to the thing at 718 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.280 the time when Pennock was at IU, who did we have at quarterback? 719 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.920 You know, we had I think decent quarterbacks in that in that quarterback room 720 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.400 there. I don't know, I don't think he when he was at IU, 721 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:31.760 like coach dan Antonio was coaching then, I mean you're thinking about Covid, 722 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.599 Yeah, you're right, you know, like he was but who was 723 00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:40.079 our quarterback? J who was it? I would you can't name it. 724 00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:49.119 I'm thinking he was there one in the what's he? Who was the year 725 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:55.920 did Penis go? I know, I think so what's that? But I 726 00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.280 think Pens had a lot of injury stuff too, though. The biggest thing 727 00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:06.960 is he stayed healthy, because yeah, yeah, and I think he had 728 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.800 another injury a second here too. So yeah, Rourkee was the toast of 729 00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.679 the town, you know, the first season that he was at the home. 730 00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:19.119 Yeah, he was very athletic guy out of Phoenix, Arizona, and 731 00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.719 he got a guy like Sam Harvan who leaves Wake for us to go to 732 00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:23.800 Notre Dame, big time program. They went all in for him to get 733 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:29.000 him to South Bend. And then Jane Daniels talking about another quarterback that played 734 00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:36.519 against Michigan played against Antonio Arizona State freshman about that loss. Yeah, yeah, 735 00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:40.440 yeah, flying out there and lose it and he I'm still pissed about 736 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.199 that. But home at home, so we lost we lost both. Yeah. 737 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:46.719 Yeah. I saw him play against oh Miss when I went to visit 738 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:51.039 LSU, and like, I mean, he's a heck of a talent um 739 00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:53.119 and you know, when you got a quarterback and I got a coach that's 740 00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.599 gonna let that quarterback take you to the promise land like it's a beautiful thing. 741 00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:02.039 But the transfer portal was like, I'm able to go and truly benefit 742 00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:06.480 from our personal gain on getting me to the next level. And these guys 743 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:09.159 are a top ten. It's gonna be a crazy year college football because you 744 00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:14.360 got some stun quarterbacks, you know, And I know that Jayden Daniels, 745 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.159 the guy that I know for a fact, love melt Tucker before he decided 746 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.880 to land at LSU. But Peyton Thorne was the returning starter didn't want to 747 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.480 crowd the quarterback room allegedly, So look, good guys. There's a lot 748 00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:30.480 of reasons that guys move. But these are very good quarterbacks and they are 749 00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:34.199 transfers and most of them. And so that just gives you a picture as 750 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.199 to where we hear about the bad side of the transfer portal, where people 751 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.599 don't get picked up or they get pushed into the portal and other people are 752 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:45.000 using it to their advantage and making the most of it. That looks like 753 00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:47.599 Corey, you know, like I want to ask you, who are you 754 00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.920 most excited about? You know, having a chance to be maybe the unheralded 755 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.639 player on Michigan State's team this year that they may have a breakout season. 756 00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.320 Malik's and Sarah like him a lot. The safety, I think he's the 757 00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:07.360 guy that would have had a he started the season injured. I think his 758 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.320 first game that he played in was the Michigan game. He had a good 759 00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:16.559 game there and he kind of just kept growing from there in those final four 760 00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.440 games that he had. I think he's the guy that has a chance to 761 00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.519 be one of the real leaders of the defense and kind of set the tone 762 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:30.280 of the physicality that they have there. So I think for me, he 763 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.239 would be the guy that jumps out as far as a guy maybe people aren't 764 00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:38.000 talking about as much just because he's a true freshman last year. And then 765 00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:45.159 I think offensively, you know, just the quarterback. I think it gives 766 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:51.400 you a chance to reset a little bit, change how you do some things. 767 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.559 You know, there's things that Peyton Thorne did well and there's things that 768 00:59:54.719 --> 01:00:00.079 he struggled with and those things might not be the same as it was for 769 01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:06.159 Noah Kim or Kayton Howe. Is there her uh Sam Levitt the true freshman 770 01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:07.239 if he was to come in and win it. You know, they have 771 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:13.039 different skill sets which allows Jay Johnson to kind of do a few different things. 772 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:19.159 But I think just seeing how the growth of the quarterback room with the 773 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:23.519 change and then Malik Spencer on defense, and I think Michigan State defense is 774 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:28.679 actually gonna be pretty good this year. Their front seven, with the defensive 775 01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.920 line and linebackers, I think that's going to stack up as well, you 776 01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:36.920 know, good as anybody in the Big Ten. Honestly, they added a 777 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:39.880 lot of talent and depth, and plus they got a lot of guys back 778 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:45.239 that were injured or suspended last year two. And then you got I mean 779 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:49.760 you think about it, now, no one is no one's combating this. 780 01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:57.440 We had this, We had this conversation like you're just like repeated, oh 781 01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.960 my god, no, no, no, hello, I say, we 782 01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:07.880 still have to proves. I was like, I don't want that. He 783 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:12.000 just said exactly what I said on Tuesday. But yeah, of course maybe 784 01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.599 it's coming from you because you put Joe stink on it. And then we 785 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:16.239 sho you know what I'm saying, Like, I just want us to be 786 01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:21.119 like, so yeah, before we let you go, my question to you 787 01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:27.320 as this. I think everyone from from the outside looking in thinking it's Noah's 788 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:31.400 Kim's job to lose as the quarterback. Is that what you're here and is 789 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:36.000 that what you're seeing. Is that what you're feeling, you know, with 790 01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.119 this quarterback battle? Yeah, I think it's completely open. I don't think 791 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:45.280 anyone's got a leg up or whatever. But I just think for me, 792 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:50.400 what we've seen from Noah Kim and a little bit of action that he got 793 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:55.280 last year during games, he looked really good. The offense I thought was 794 01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.280 very efficient. They you know, they looked quicker, almost like they were 795 01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:05.400 getting to the line quicker they were. I thought one of the biggest problems 796 01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.119 for Peyton Thorn was holding on to the ball too long. So in a 797 01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:12.599 little bit of time you saw Peyton Thorne last year in games, and then 798 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.079 in the spring this year, what you saw, I thought, you saw 799 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:21.039 Noah Kim just getting the ball out really quick and spreading it around. So 800 01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:25.440 I think I would put him as the front runner for the job just based 801 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:29.360 off of what we've seen. But I do think that it's still pretty open. 802 01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:40.199 There you go, that's not exactly what he said. Front runner. 803 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:44.239 I think, yes, I will take bringing the front runner. He just 804 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:45.519 has to go out there on the field and prove it. You know, 805 01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:50.000 he's already doing a lot of things off in the off season, you know, 806 01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:52.440 behind the scenes and everything like that. So he's just going to continue 807 01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:55.679 to go out there and and you know, Riley those guys and be a 808 01:02:55.800 --> 01:03:02.039 leader. It's a great point. I'm just reading a couple of these last 809 01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:06.800 you know, the lines in the chat here there is a comment about Duffy 810 01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:12.039 Doughdery once asked was asked, what's he most excited about? Who's he most 811 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.320 excited about coming back? And he said me, Duffy Dorry the coach. 812 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:21.679 So now it's about now he's the leader. He's the straw that stirs the 813 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.840 drink, guys. That's that's one thing. And also Laura Roope says Nick 814 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:30.599 Saban through in the talent said make them all employees. Talking about players and 815 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:36.880 the SEC media days, Nick Saban talked about, hey, why not just 816 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.320 make everybody employees and have a salary cap like the NFL model. That's another 817 01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:44.719 thing. We can talk about that for a whole show. I'm sure Corey, 818 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:47.079 you know, for you, you know, you're entering into this big 819 01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:52.119 season of recruiting in June, Is there a recruit I mean, we won't 820 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.760 hold you to this, you know, because I know over the next twenty 821 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:59.159 five days before it goes quiet again, there's gonna be a lot of movement. 822 01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:01.840 But is there some one that is tracking that that people don't see right 823 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.960 now, that could be that really likes Michigan State, that that we can 824 01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:09.199 be, you know, supporting our you know, showing some love too. 825 01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:23.800 You're a mute mute, You're a mute Corey. But yeah, I think 826 01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:26.920 there's a lot of guys that could fit that mold. I think, Uh. 827 01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:30.880 For for me, I've always went with the approach of not necessarily like 828 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:35.800 a name, but a skill set that you need to succeed. Uh. 829 01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:41.599 I think, uh, you know, offensive line. I'm an offensive line 830 01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:46.400 guy. So I think if you could get uh Michael Michael Williams, he 831 01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:51.599 was committed to uh, South Carolina, he opened that back up. He's 832 01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:57.000 taken on an official visit June sixteenth to Michigan State, where he's at six 833 01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.599 foot seven, three hundred twenty five pound offensive tackle. I think that's a 834 01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:10.960 guy. I think the twins Charlton and Mercer Lena Lanowski. Uh, they're 835 01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.559 two Ohio offensive line and I think those guys there some guys that you should 836 01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:16.920 be excited about. And then I mean, they just have a ton of 837 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:23.159 skill players that are coming in that are you know, they just bring a 838 01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:27.960 lot of speed and playmaking ability. So it'll be interesting to see how how 839 01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:30.320 it pans out. I do think Mischian State's gonna fill a lot of their 840 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:38.920 needs a defensive back, wide receiver, running back, probably quarterback, and 841 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.840 the offensive line. So by the end of June, middle of July, 842 01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:48.239 I think you're going to see a class that's pretty close to full that following 843 01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:55.679 these June visits. M love it Corey Man as always. Man, we 844 01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.239 really appreciate you coming on the show and sharing some of those those jewels that 845 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:03.360 you drop for everyone and giving us great insight. Gotta love the offensive line. 846 01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.280 I love that you shared there too. Gotta bring those big fellows in 847 01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:11.719 to make everything else go. But Corey Man, appreciate it. Man. 848 01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:14.559 We're gonna cover. We're gonna come back and bring you back on after this 849 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:17.760 recruiting season wraps up so we can get a better picture. That's this class 850 01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:25.320 crystallizes for twenty twenty four definitely sounds a good guys any time. Coy All 851 01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:32.000 right, man, it's rest man a couple hours, right, Corey Robinson 852 01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:35.079 two four seven sports ladies and gentlemen that you know he went down to the 853 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.199 Wayne State camp and then we didn't cover it. We didn't talk a lot 854 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:41.599 about it because there wasn't a lot going on down There's a lot of people, 855 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:44.239 a lot of coaches all over the place. But you know, those 856 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.559 those things that can be hit or miss. But you know, hey, 857 01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.199 look guys, what are you guys? And it was a great show in 858 01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:53.679 my opinion, a lot of a lot of a lot of information there. 859 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:58.559 Otis, what are your final thoughts? All final thoughts? Because you you 860 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.559 probably you're gonna for getting again. I'm about to remind you here on this 861 01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:08.039 one that no pet do it. Yeah. So our boy Pete who was 862 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:12.920 with us in the trenches as we started this this podcast and getting us started, 863 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.360 and what do you see today? Uh was was our our guy Pete 864 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:19.079 um in his brain child of getting us right. And so you know, 865 01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:25.320 Pete is still will be involved and getting us content, but ultimately, um, 866 01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:28.639 we'll be truly doing a great part of this show of getting this, 867 01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:31.760 you know, some more partners, but also more support. Um, but 868 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.119 he definitely still will be involved, and so we didn't give him his full 869 01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:41.320 flowers or his love. You know, last show which was on Tuesday. 870 01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:45.239 In the background, you don't see him much, but he did cameo last 871 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.559 season. I think it was Thursday before we went to Penn State. Uh, 872 01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:51.119 And so we might do that again. Know that we're at Ford Field, 873 01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:55.280 he's gonna pop up again and talk. But UM, definitely want to 874 01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:01.400 give him love and obviously appreciative because without him, you know, we were 875 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:08.320 still probably been doing some old school stuff with our phones and eye huff or 876 01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:11.599 you know, back in up whatever basement we might have been in. But 877 01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:15.960 he definitely elevated us. So, Um, Pete's I think he's he's canoeing 878 01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:19.199 right now. We don't spending a good time often during the hour like he's 879 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:21.760 doing things day. You know, we sometimes wish we could we could do. 880 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.800 But I definitely want to give him, give him his flowers love. 881 01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:32.159 So yeah, and definitely appreciate everything that Pete did. Um. You know, 882 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.399 but with that, you know, walk, let's welcome Tony. Uh. 883 01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:40.840 You know, so we had producer Pete Pete Mandez, Who's who we're 884 01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:44.479 talking about. Pete Mandez is moving on U just into a different role. 885 01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:48.159 And we always had Tony g and the Tony og, Tony Costella, and 886 01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:55.520 then now Tony. How do you say Tony's last name used properly? I'm 887 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.560 not gonna butcher. I want to say, Tony, why don't you jump 888 01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.880 out? Yeah? Tell him real quick, come on in, Tony, 889 01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:14.079 he's waiting us. Wait for it, Tony, Hell, you got me? 890 01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:17.039 Yeah? Video, I don't know. Show what's up with the video. 891 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:20.159 We'll get that straightened out. I'm on the old school recording on a 892 01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:25.800 iPhone, like you guys, no to Tony La Barbara. I was gonna 893 01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.840 see it. Everyone has butchered it since I was in fifth grade. So 894 01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:33.720 you can say whatever you want and I'll answer to it. I just I 895 01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:41.520 don't even correct it anymore. Tony l any relation to the le Barbara family 896 01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:48.079 in Western New York. I want a girl named Ambera La Barbara. When 897 01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:50.640 I was in high school, there was a Jason La Barbara who was the 898 01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:56.039 goalie for the Kings, I think. But other than that, nah, 899 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.760 very funny. He was like, that's my sister. Oh my goodness. 900 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:09.600 We appreciate Tony joined us man like, yeah, go ahead, no, 901 01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:12.000 no, no, as Peet goes out people, Nez goes out there. 902 01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.039 We have Tony La Barbara coming in Sporting Story doing a lot of big things, 903 01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:17.319 and like you know, we've been talking about a lot of special things 904 01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:19.800 that oldest is working on. A lot of guys are working behind the scenes, 905 01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:25.039 so you know, stay tuned. Things are getting they're coming big, 906 01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.920 you know, getting prime for a big football season. Wait is he? 907 01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:33.720 I know? And sometimes we think Steve Smith would Before we met Steve Smith, 908 01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:40.760 we thought he was AI. Huh. Now he's a real human Steve. 909 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.640 He's a real human. Enjoyment Mississippi down there, Steve. He's having 910 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:48.479 fun down in the in the sith Now. I mean I'll be in Alabama 911 01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:55.960 tomorrow. Oh yeah, huh yeah Alabama. The Panthers going to take on 912 01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:01.479 the New Orleans Breakers and the Kickers. Matt Coglin he's doing a terrific jos. 913 01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:08.640 He's like leading the league in points right now. Unreal love love it. 914 01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:15.880 Yeah when he does his job right yeah, And hats of the Michigan 915 01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:20.960 Your Michigan Panthers are undefeated on the road. On the Road underfe windless at 916 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:30.760 home, undefeated on the road out a fourth field and they want I blame 917 01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:36.279 now now, great show to night fellas, I mean as you guys enjoyed 918 01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:40.119 the show, hit the like and subscribe button. 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