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All right, So I got a
message from like a video notification from the

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hour of the time on bit shoot. Now that's the name of Bill Cooper's

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old radio broadcast. He was on
for nine years, close to nine years,

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pretty close to one nine and fifty
four episodes that there might be some

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that are lost from the archives.
Maybe there was a few more shows,

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and some of them were the audio
was so terrible on them that they didn't

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ever get reproduced because it was a
secondhand, you know, recording off of

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a Why is my internet dry dying? Right now? Hold on because nothing

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will work. If this doesn't work, we're gonna have to give it a

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second because right now it's in the
gutter as far as connection. Okay,

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it looks like it's better now.
Okay, So with all the stupidness aside

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here, let's try to get into
this because today was Bill's last broadcast.

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Eleventh, I'm sorry, the fifth
of November. Yes, I know,

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but that's a Jesuit thing. The
gunpowder plot. That was a Jesuit plot.

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And they so everybody's been chanting for
the bad guy, cheering for the

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bad guy. The movie had a
lot of people rooting for the bad guy

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all right, So I'm not gonna
go remember remember the fifth November like a

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cliche asshole throughout this video. I'm
not gonna do that. I said it

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once. It it's the fifth of
November. November fifth, two thousand and

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one. This is Bill's final broadcast. Hours later, around eleven, close

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to midnight, he was ambushed at
his home, and the second part of

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the live stream, I'm going to
show you the documentary, and toward the

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end of the documentary, Doyle goes
over details. I'm not gonna say the

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official details. I'm gonna say the
real details. He goes over details of

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that night, and I'm gonna have
a lot of things to say in between

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there, because I've got some thoughts
on that. I'm also going to have

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the show open for calls if anybody
wants to pay their respects to Bill,

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if anybody wants to add something to
this for history. Oh that's the fucking

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internet again. Something's happening. I'm
not gonna be able to do this.

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It's gonna I can't connect the proper
hardware to this fucking computer because it won't.

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It won't even let me. It
doesn't even say that I haven't in

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it. But because of the bios
a bullshit that happened with Microsoft. I

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have to use the Wi Fi,
but it's hard lined. It's hard lined.

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Don't worry about that. It's hardline
to the computer. But it doesn't

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matter because it's it's not the best
one. I have spectrum in here,

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too, but I can't hook it
up. So this happens sometimes for no

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apparent reason. Seems to be every
time I go on a live stream.

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Actually, isn't that interesting. You
don't know how many times I've not started

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because I was seeing this happen because
I have a little meter here, and

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then I was just like, you
know what, now's not the time.

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All right, let's try this.
Let's see what happens. If it jacks

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it all up, then that's just
the way it is. But we're gonna

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try to do this anyway. First
part is going to be let me see

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hold on, let me see what
we got here. Let's do this.

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Yeah, this is probably the best
way to do that, all right.

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So this one's called Quaviete. That's
name of the river that Bill was on

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and Vietnam. Right, So make
sure I get the right screen for this,

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and I'll just take myself down off
of it later. But as we

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are reading here, we'll screw up
here. It says, yeah the time

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number one and fifty four Quavite Bill's
final broadcast. Now, let's read the

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description. Bill deviates from the recent
string of mystery religion broadcasts to discuss the

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book he is writing about the Quaviette
River he patrolled during the Vietnam War,

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as well as the website he is
building for fellow veterans from whom he reads

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a few very touching letters. Bill
would be murdered hours following this broadcast,

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taped on the evening of November fifth, two thousand and one. And I'm

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just going to say one more thing. They never published his book, and

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it was pretty close to Doune,
if not just in need of an edit,

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you know, a posthumist send off
way of you know, preserving his

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memory and honoring his memory. I
don't think they ever published Quavia And that

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was I believe the name of the
book he was going to publish had he

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lived a little bit longer. So
it's lost to the rest of us,

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all right, So let's go ahead
and get this going, and then we'll

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do the documentary right after. But
this is coming from bit Shoot. Okay,

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it's called The Hour of the Time, real simple, it's the name

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of his old radio show. It
has all of his remastered. The guy

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remasters everything and he adds things,
and whenever he has an opportunity to supplement

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the video, if Bill is playing
the audio of a videotape, yes,

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videotape back, then right then he
will put that in instead. So sometimes

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you're actually watching stuff like a lot
of times it would be like an inauguration

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or some kind of State of the
Union or one of the documenty documentaries that

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Bill would have played out over the
radio where he could still get enough out

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of it just listening to it.
This man here who calls himself bit Shoot

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Bill, well, we'll supplement that, which makes it awesome. Right,

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So this is a really cool thing
to have here. The second video originally

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normally is on Bill Cooper dot Joshu
dot net. It's actually going to be

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coming from Joshu TV dot com and
hops I can't show you that right now

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because I'm in the other screen,
but we'll get into that right after this.

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All right, let me go ahead
and get this crank in for us

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without further delay, and let's go, let's have at it. H good

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evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm
William Cooper and you're listening to the hour

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of the time. We're going to
take a little deviation here tonight from what

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we've been involved in in the last
over the last week, because I've been

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doing something that's necessary for me.
Absolutely can't get around doing this. It's

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been in the works for some time. As you know, I'm writing a

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book about Quabiette, the River,
the Monster as I think of it,

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the river that I patrolled in Vietnam, and part of that was trying to

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find material from other people who served
there, and over all these years I've

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never found anyone until I wrote an
introduction to the book and put it out

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over the Internet, and then all
of a sudden I became inundated with emails

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from people who had served in Vietnam. And you know, just stick around

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and stay tuned because it's going to
be interesting. You have to be m

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ladies and gentlemen. I've been hard
at work and I have built a website

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and only consists of one page right
now for what's going to be an organization

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of veterans of Claviert the Quaviette River. Anyone from the Corps, the United

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States Navy, the Air Force,
or the United States Army who served on

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that river in any capacity, or
at the base Camp Quavette or Camp Kissler

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in any capacity whatsoever, it's going
to be welcome. All right, Well,

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I'm seeing this happening again with the
We're in the gutter as far as

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a connection now, and it's staying
in the gutter. It's not fixing itself.

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I'm a deposit, and see if
it improves itself. All right,

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let's do this again. I don't
want it to be able to mess up

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audio wise, and when you guys
listen to it. So on this website

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and we need stories from people and
pictures and all kinds of things. I

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put the word out and people have
responded. The email is just overwhelming.

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The amount of information is flowing is
overwhelming. And it's incredible because most people

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never even heard of quaviat And I
mean it seriously, It's like it fell

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down through the cracks of the war. And I knew that this website would

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be important to me especially, And
two a whole lot of other people who

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served at Quaviete or had something to
do with Quaviete or knew about Quavia that

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somehow it is going to be important. It's turning out to be much more

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important than I ever dreamed that it
would be. Now, if you want

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to go there and look while I'm
doing this broadcast, you can't. And

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the internet address is quaviet dot org. See you a V I E T

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dot O r G. That c
U A V as in Victor I E

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T dot O r G. Hello, Hello, why are you calling?

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I didn't open the phones. Can
you hear this broadcast? No? I

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can't. And then if you can't
hear it, stay off the damn phone.

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I can't stand it when people don't
know what the hell's going on,

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and so they just the phone's ringing
off the wall, just literally raining off

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the wall. And I know it's
people who aren't listening, don't even know

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that I have something going on here
that's important, and it's just it's extremely

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disturbing. I can't believe it.
I really can't. Can't you how gross

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and inconsiderate so many people really are. And I'm not gonna let it bother

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me. I'm gonna go on with
this. Incidentally, I get calls hours

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upon hours after a livestream is over, asking me questions about the medical stuff

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that the doctors were talking about on
the show. So I don't answer them,

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obviously, And that's why I have
a Google Voice number and not my

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cell phone number that's out, but
it still rings to that phone and it's

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just ridiculous ten o'clock at night.
Sometimes it's insane. The website is quaviet

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dot org if you'd like to visit
it during this broadcast. While I'm reading,

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I have pages and pages and pages
and pages and pages of email here

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from people, and you're not gonna
believe what you're gonna hear. Yeah,

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I knew instinctively that this was going
to be a Catharsis for healing and for

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bringing people together other and and doing
a lot of good things. And I

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had no idea how right I was, And I had no idea even you

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know, even being right, how
how much it was going to touch people,

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and how many people it was going
to affect and and and bring out

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of the woodwork, literally, folks. So I'm going to read you these

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emails and these letters that I've been
receiving from people, and I hope that

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it affects you as much as it
has affected because it's really touched my heart

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way down deep inside. It has
literally, well, it's done great things

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for me. Let's put it that
way. So here we go. Listen

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very carefully. I don't know how
much, if at all, this touches

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your memories. My unit, H
Company, second Battalion, first Marines left

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Kaisan on July fifth, nineteen sixty
eight. After walking from there to Kallu,

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maybe twelve miles overnight, we boarded
trucks and via Dangha went toward the

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South China Sea. We spent two
months along that river, and it was

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dangerous territory for US. North Vietnamese
Army ordered to get into the south along

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eastern routes, headed for and eventually
reoriented themselves to the Quadiet River. The

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bad news, as I saw it, was you guys were always on the

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duck pond. The good news was
you were tenacious and on a fluid media

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and therefore really presented problems once they
struck. I remember the river boat personnel

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as focused and just waiting to unload. Men who have tasted the sting of

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the enemy are like that. I
felt comfortable while riding on the river with

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you, guys, I and my
men could actually relax a bit because we

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could see you after ready. Thanks
for your courageous and effective work over there,

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Signed Jerry Lily. And this next
one is so important to me.

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When I got this email, I
got to tell you. I was blown

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away. I sat down and I
cried because all these years I always wondered

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what happened to my crew. My
crew I was a boat captain, and

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I never could find any of them. And all of a sudden, in

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my email box, here's what I
read. Hey, Coop, don't sweat

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it, man, I understand I
couldn't kick the nam thing and the two

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together were destroying me. Hey man, I've been up at my cabin the

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last few days, glad to hear
from you and somebody who actually knows the

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score. Hope you are well.
I remember you talking about your wife and

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how you liked going to the movies
once when we were at the Air Force

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Club theater. Not a bad memory
for an old pickled brain snipe, huh.

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I still enjoy Matineze because of that. You know, that whole episode

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brings tears to my eyes, mostly
the comrader we shared on that blankety blank

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river. I was on Shorty Shelter's
boat on the Quabette. You may remember

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him. I also rode with Old
Stringer and was up there so long they

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let me be a substitute boat captain
a couple of times, mostly on day

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patrol when I was short. We
got into a doozy on three Limba patrol

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one night on Shorty's boat. That's
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I lost a couple of Marines but
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If it wasn't for those army guys
in those gunships, things would have

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gotten really nasty. That three Limo
was a mother blanketed blank, wasn't it.

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I don't remember talking to you all
that much up north, but maybe

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a couple of times. You got
the Silver Star, didn't you. Yeah.

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I remember the New Cut. We
had a mine go off just as

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we went through one morning. I
remember the ramp at dong Ha. Saw

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an old high school buddy of mine
there one night. He was a jar

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head guarding the fuel. I remember
that you that was sunk right around to

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Lima. A guy had a picture
of it on military dot com. It

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was weird seeing a picture of that
boat again. Me a night I thought

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I heard ghosts on that old rust
bucket. You remember that leper colony of

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Danang and that old half sunken japship. The stories go on and on.

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I think it was our boat PB
four four and Danang when we had that

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picnic on Spanish Beach and a couple
of kids blew themselves up with that our

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crew. Well I'll stop, well, I'll stop the rambling. I have

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to get to bed anyway, got
to go to work tomorrow. Was glad

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to hear from you. Let me
know if you need any stuff for your

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book. Good luck to you.
Keep your head down, don't sweat the

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small stuff, and remember that old
saying, it don't mean nothing. Talk

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to you later, Mike your engineman. It was my enginement on TB four

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four with the Nang Harbor Patrol.
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the Quavette River and served under the
other boat captains Shorty Shelter and a guy

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named Stringer. As you heard,
and that email has touched me probably more

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than anything that's ever happened to me
ever since I left Vietnam. And they

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go on and on and on Hi
you, Bill, just a quick question.

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Is your book available out there to
be purchased yet or not. I'm

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very much interested in getting one,
as several guys in my DFW club are.

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I can't tell you how much your
little note and pictures brought back some

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memories of those years long gone.
Welcome brother Dennis, Hi Bill, you've

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described I had the Quaviat River to
a t. I don't know how you

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did it. I tried for years
to remember all of the things that you

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have brought back to my mind in
just a few short paragraphs. I spent

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a lot of time going up and
down that muddy, bank eat and shallow

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sandbarn infested stream. I was on
the LCU fourteen ninety nine from August sixty

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eight to sixty nine, and remember
it all better than most. I really

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liked your passage. I've also written
a short story of my one year experience

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in country. It is cinding the
blong to email to you, but if

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you are interested, I can figure
out something. And yes, I am

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very interested, and I want you
to send it to me because I want

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to put it on the website.
I want to put all your stories on

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the website. Whoever you are.
What did you do when you had the

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delightful experience of serving Uncle Sam.
Were you attached to PDRs or small boats?

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How did you come across my email? I have many photos and many

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different sites and have signed many guestbooks. Let me give you a few sites,

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and he does scroll down the members
photos and look for my name.

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I also have video of iCore,
the rivers and boats that I had transferred

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from eight millimeter film I had taken
while in country. I've been making copies

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and sending it all to the brownwater
sailors that seem interested. Let me know,

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talk to me, brother, I
am in contact with a lot of

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US brownwater sailors from iCore. Joseph
Chriscione, Hello, mister Cooper. My

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name is Larry Bissonette. I am
presently the website coordinator for Game Wardens of

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Vietnam Association. I have become aware
that you're writing or have written the subject

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book on the Game Wardens website.
We have a Ship's Store page where we

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sell various items to the membership.
I would be interested in talking with you

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concerning making your book available there as
well. If you could put me in

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contact with someone or talk to me
yourself. I would appreciate it. I

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was with River Division five ninety three
during nineteen sixty nine and have a zipp

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O lighter from River Section five forty
three when they were in Nabe. It's

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inscribed to GM two l Vorhees Bronx
Bronx, New York, waiting to hear

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from you, Larry Bissonnett. I
don't think I know you, but thanks

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for sending this article to me.
It brought back a lot of memories.

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If there is more to this story, I would love to read it.

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Best wishes, Bill Walton. Hello
Bill, I just read our post on

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the PBR website. I'm right below
you. I was at Quavierte late sixty

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eight and sixty nine. Was there
when they hit our club with an RPG.

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Ran got my combat action ribbon on
May fifth, sixty nine when we

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ran to a nests of the NBA
trying to cross the river. Have some

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pictures of the base and ramp area. Where in Arizona do you live.

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I have a brother that lives in
North Phoenix. Go out there every winter

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to get out of Minnesota. We'll
have to run. I have a call

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to go on. Stay cool River
Buddy and Welcome home, Dennis. Hello

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Stingray twelve. This guy knew my
callsign. I was Stingray twelve on the

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river. Hello Stingray twelve. This
is Mike Trojanowski Wiley, now living in

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northern California near Reading. I reported
the Quavette in March sixty nine. I

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was there with five point forty three
until we went down to De Nang and

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Houyan. There was that huge typhoon. I have pictures of the sunk MSB

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and the rock barge up on the
Lst Ramp, as well as the PBRs

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up on the I have a cruise
book from NSA the name, and hear

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that there is a clear Water cruise
book out there somewhere. I would be

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happy to share my pictures and anything
else I might help with. I am

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interested in finding the unit diaries for
Rivdiv five three. I just have not

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found a source. I am very
interested in helping you. I think that

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we served in a unique area,
most certainly with great guys. I am

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disappointed that there is not more acknowledgment
of Task Force one one five. I

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have both of my berets with the
Task Force one one five Patch and know

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that is who was above us in
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who lives sunny southern Minnesota, has
a scanner set up and currently has

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all of my slides. If you
email him you can ask how many of

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my pictures he can send you.
I don't have a scannery yet. Please

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get in touch, Mike. I've
read these dozens of times and they still

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touch me. They still get me. They're right in the chest. I

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gotta tell you. I was the
deck division officer in the USS Tioga County

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LST. Eleven fifty eight in nineteen
sixty seven. We took a load of

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tanks, jeeps and marines to Denaying
before going to the Long Tal River near

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naw Bay. We became the mothership
for PDRs and supplied them with food and

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sleeping quarters, ammunition, and gasoline. We had three stops in Subic Bay

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for repairs. After returning to the
States, I volunteered to be a patrol

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officer in PDRs and was with Vdiv. Five seventy one from February of sixty

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nine to February of seventy We patrolled
at two and nine. Now they run

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SAT Special Zone, Upper Saigon River
and the Veente Canal. I made over

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two hundred and twenty combat patrols and
with God's help, brought back every man

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alive with only three minor injuries.
And ladies and gentlemen, you have no

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idea what a great accomplishment that was. My patrols engaged the enemy twenty two

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times. I am not a hero
and did not try to be one.

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I did not initiate a gunfight unless
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of the enemy. Those of us
who were in Vietnam were doing our jobs,

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just like teachers and carpenters were back
in the USA. The tragedies of

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death, injury, destruction, danger, loneliness, and broken hearts are real.

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As soldiers, sailors, and airmen, we did our jobs, but

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we are different because we have killed
others and shot at others with the intent

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to kill. Thousands of us needed
help in order to become proper citizens and

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to recover from battle stress fatigue.
I believe I have recovered from it and

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want to help others recover as well. I wrote a book called Not a

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Hero, which describes my experiences in
the military. At the end I talk

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about recovery from being involved in war. Maybe you don't need it, but

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you have a friend or relative who
is still plagued with war related stress,

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get a copy of my book and
give it to them. You can check

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out my website at http Colan Forward
Slash Forward Slash www dot not ahro dot

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com. Thanks for the job you
did in Vietnam, Bill ron Fitz,

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Lieutenant Hi. My husband was in
River Section five forty three and Quavillette in

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nineteen sixty seven to sixty eight.
I believe he does have photos. He

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is still a boat captain and out
in the Gulf of Mexico right now.

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When he comes home, I will
have him contact you. Name is Jean

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Geiger, ring any bells, Sue
Geiger sand me On, Texas near Galveston,

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Houston area. Yeah, Sue,
I remember Jane very well and he

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was a He was a damn good
boat captain. Bill, I too,

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am in search of pictures and stories. Most of the pictures I had got

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destroyed in the flood we had here. I have only three left. I

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will scan them and send you a
copy when I get my scanner hooked up.

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I will have to think of any
stories and try to put them on

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paper. My wife has been after
me to do that for some time now.

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I read the excerpt from your book
and it brought back a lot of

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memories and feelings. I will get
back to you if I can come up

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with anything. Bruce Meyer, good
morning. I did not serve up north.

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Were the LCTO crews attached to NSA
the Nang detachments? If so,

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what was your unit name and did
you have any casualties? If you did

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have any kias that means killed in
action, folks, please send them to

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me so I can identify them correctly
to the right unit. Go to my

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website and looked under NSA the NAG
and stroll down the list of casualties of

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the units that were attached to the
name HTTT Cohen forward slash forward slash www

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dot Vietnam excuse me, Vietnam Unit
Memorial mon that's m O N dot org.

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That's www dot v I E T
n A m U n I T

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M E m O r I A
l m O N dot org. Signed

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Ralph J. Fries, Coordinator the
United States Navy, United States Coast Guard

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Vietnam Unit Memorial Monument boat displayed project. My name is Eldridge Fowler and I

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was stationed in Denang for three months
in nineteen seventy two. While there,

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I was sent on a mission to
Quabat, which lasted about twelve days.

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I was an advisor in Vietnam and
held a diver classification. Our mission was

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not far from the river's mouth at
a CD base. A small civilian survey

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boat, small tug was blown up
one night about two hundred yards from the

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CB base. We were to recover
the five bodies still on board and removed

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the wreck from the river if possible. If you were in Quaviete your whole

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tour, I sure don't envy you. That was one heck of a bad

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place. The sappers were terrible sea
snakes at that sight sink sight were an

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abundance and extremely deadly. One good
memory, and I'm sure you also seen

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it at times. Was some nights
these little floats about the size of your

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hand would float down the river.
They would have a candle on each float

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with maybe some colored paper to give
different light shades. There would be it

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seemed like hundreds of them, stretched
out for maybe a half mile or so,

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gave off a beautiful glow during the
dark nights. I was told that

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was a funeral custom and represented the
dead person's soul going out to sea.

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There is a little more to this
story, but mainly I just wanted to

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say I'm glad you made it back. By the way, the only two

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Americans that were on that boat when
the sapper blew it up made it off

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the boat into the CBE base.
After the three months in Dunayg, I

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was sent to spend the rest of
my tour in the Delta. Take it

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easy, bro, hai Ya,
just got your reply. I live in

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Lake City, Minnesota. My tongue
is getting off right on the Mississippi River.

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Worked for the police Department there small
one, only eleven of us.

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I was with the Task Force clear
Water. When I first got in country,

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I was on one of the old
river boats to start the old heavy

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steel hold ones the LCPLS. I
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Had two snipers that went out on
night patrol with US, mostly all night

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patrols. Then they moved me to
PBRs. Then I was up and down

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the river from Quavierte to Doanghan Klang
Tree. I'm very happy to see that

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you're making a website on quavier can't
wait. Like I mentioned, before have

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some pictures, but my first wife
kind of did away with a lot of

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my stuff, if you know what
I mean. Bill, This was great,

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just great. I'm still sitting here
trying to find myself, get lost

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in time for a while. Some
things are starting to come back to me

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now, like Jones Creek. Forgot
what we used to call that place.

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Other things also the Lima River sections
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To tell the truth, Bill,
I am sitting here with tears running down

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my face. Have to go before
the other guys get here and see me.

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Thanks again. This will be a
day I won't soon forget. Thanks

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again, Dennis. Yes, I
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When we pulled out, we had
to burn or tear down all of

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our buildings. I was running the
water treatment plant in our compound. We

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had also built a small walk in
freezer to make ice, which we used

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the excess that we did not need
to trade for sp pats, those boxes

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of goodies that had cigarettes, shaving
cream, candy, and a lot of

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other stuff in them. The installation
that we used in our walk in freezer

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was mattresses and pillows that we had
quote liberated end quote from your area.

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Hope yours was not one of them, signed Bill. Nope, mine wasn't

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one of them, Bill. But
I remember I remember mattresses and pillows turning

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up missing all the time, and
guy is bitching and complaining about it.

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Thank you for this, Gene will
be enthralled. Are you the author?

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If not, how can we contact
William Cooper as a freelance writer editor.

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I just want to say to him, well done. As I read the

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words, they all sounded so familiar. Jean talks about the very same things

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with little fanfare. He told me
that every morning he'd wonder, will this

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be the day I die? But
he was not fearful of death, like

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Cooper says toward the end, I
forever lost the fear of death. If

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you've not read Flags of Our Fathers, you would be moved. Although a

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different war, World War two,
certainly the same emotions. The author is

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the son of one of the men
who erected the flag he will. The

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son tells how his father rarely ever
talked about the war, and when he

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did, his statement was always the
same. I am not a hero.

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The real heroes are the ones who
didn't come back. For all of you

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who did come back, welcome home. I am honored to be Jean's wife

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and look in July two thousand and
two, thanks again for sharing mm hm

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hm that music all right? That
musical selection Ladies and Gentlemen's from born on

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fourth of July, and the title
is Quaviette River. You see, the

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movie is a is a true story
about a United States marine from the first

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Marine Division who was seriously wounded in
the battle that I remember very well that

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took place on the Quaiette River.
And to get a chance watch the movie

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and the music is beautiful. You
should purchase the CD if you like the

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music. If you don't, then
forget about it. But I've never met

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anyone yet who doesn't like that music. It's an incredible composition and ever since,

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ever since I found it, I've
used it on this broadcast for many,

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many years. Most of you know
that already. I have a copy

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of All Hands July sixty nine about
river operations on the Quaviete Perfume Perfume rivers.

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Let me know if you need this
info, well, folks, I

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need all the info I can get. If you know anybody who served at

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Quaviete or on the Quaviette River or
near the Quaviete River. I need to

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know about them. I need their
story, I need their pictures. If

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you know anyone who died on the
quaviet River near the quaviet River, I

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need their name and their unit so
that we can put them on a memorial

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page, which we're also going to
have on the website. We don't want

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to leave anyone out at all.
I don't want to include every single person

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that we can find, even if
they were there for just one day.

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It's so important to me, and
as you're beginning to hear, so important

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to all of these other people.
Hi, whomever you are. I surfed

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into the quaviet website and found it
interesting. No contact name, no other

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00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.400
info. So what's up with the
quaviet organization? I was there and closed

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it out? Can do? David
W. Shill, Newsletter Editor, Vietnam

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ERACBS Bielbox three six seventy eight one, Richmond, Virginia two three two three

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00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:58.400
five. Well, what's up is
we're just getting it started, and websites

415
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.400
are a lot of work, so
eventually everything is going to be there that

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00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:07.559
everybody is going to want there.
Anybody that wants to contribute suggestions or anything

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00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.280
else that was there, we want
to hear from you. If you didn't

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serve there, if you want a
part of it, then unless you're a

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relative of somebody who was, we're
not too much interested in your input.

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00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:28.480
It's got to be it's got to
be the guys that fought there that's so

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00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:36.039
important. ICR Third Boat Group,
Lighterage Division Tinshaw NSA denaying we ran boat

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00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:40.519
ops through Icre rivers and coasts.
You can find some unit photos from my

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00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:51.199
time over in nom on the MRFA
dot org website. Signed Tom. First

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00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:55.599
things first, Welcome home. I
just tappened across a Mars website while searching

425
00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.960
for something totally different, and decided
to take a look and found the link

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00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:06.440
to the webring, which brought me
to your web page. Apparently somebody's put

427
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:10.679
us on a web bring, and
so people are finding the page already,

428
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.760
and I didn't do it. Somebody
else did it. Some kind wonderful person

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00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:25.360
is helping people find our website.
He goes on. Unfortunately, I kept

430
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.159
getting an error message when I tried
to pull it up, so I thought

431
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:34.320
I would try the email route.
Your site listing was the first one that

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00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:39.079
I saw that mentioned Quaviet, and
your message stating intentions of starting a Quaviet

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00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:45.599
web page definitely interested me. A
little. About me, I was an

434
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:52.760
RT fortlift operator and also spent time
in X Division at NSAD Quaviet from May

435
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:59.320
through December of sixty nine before moving
down to deepwater Piers at d Nag for

436
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:04.960
the remainder of my year. I
was there during the typhoon, but one

437
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.679
week the gooks actually let us keep
the enlisted Man's Club open. I rebuilt

438
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:20.039
the Officers Row. I can't say
that I rebuilt the Officers Row. I

439
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:24.159
guess a good word would be outthouse. That we awarded the Purple Heart after

440
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.599
it was blown up by a mortar
round, and was one of the three

441
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:34.199
of us that discovered the Black Widow
invasion spiders. You wouldn't believe it,

442
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:40.239
man. We were just over literally
overrun by Black Widows spiders at Quadier at

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00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:49.679
one point, and that was more
scary than the enemy that they were everywhere.

444
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.360
All fond memories that I had put
into history for the past thirty years.

445
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:58.519
I also have a few pictures,
some were in the dusty boxes that

446
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:01.559
I will be glad to share if
the site is or gets up and running.

447
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:06.280
I unfortunately have to get back to
work right now, but did want

448
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.280
to make contact and request further info
on the site when available. My name,

449
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.199
by the way is James Higgins.
I was a gunner's mate guns seamen

450
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:21.280
back in the days. And additional
email other than reply to my work address

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00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.119
is and he gives his email address. I really do look forward to hearing

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00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:29.760
from you, since I didn't keep
in touch with any of our brothers from

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00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.400
the non but have often wondered about
a few, and hardly, ever more,

454
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:39.079
never find anyone who has even heard
of Quabier. Thanks for starting the

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00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:46.840
site and piquing my curiosity. Would
you please post this on your site.

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00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.840
The United States Marine Corps Vietnam Veterans
Association would be honored to have you as

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00:45:52.880 --> 00:46:00.000
a member. The United States Marine
Corps Vietnam Veterans Association has a restricted membership

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00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:07.000
for Vietnam in country Marine Corps and
attached Navy personnel veterans only. For more

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00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:14.119
information, dropped me an email and
he gives his email address. Be sure

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00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.159
to enclose your complete name and address, and I will add you to our

461
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:27.519
roster and the newsletter I core spelled
Aye mailing list. Hi Bill, these

462
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.760
are most of the photos I have
a Quaviette and area. I checked out

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00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:37.559
your website for Quaviert excellent photos.
I remember aiming for that narrow mouth of

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00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:43.400
the river during a storm and surfing
through like a giant surfboard. And that's

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00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:49.559
true, folks. The first time
I entered that river mouth was during some

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00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:54.360
real bad weather, and it was
the first time I went up to Quaviatte,

467
00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:00.639
and we were our patrol boat.
It was a patrol boat that had

468
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been sent in a name to be
repaired because it had been hit with a

469
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:09.039
rocket and a whole bunch of bullets. And when I was transferred up to

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00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:15.159
Quadette, I was assigned with a
couple of other guys to ride this boat

471
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:22.400
up there behind being towed by an
LCU. And when we got right outside

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00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:28.159
the river mouth, the LCU cast
us off and we started the engine.

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00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:34.840
And at first I really didn't know
whether we could get into the river mouth

474
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:39.760
or not, because the surf was
so high it was unbelievable, and you

475
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:45.760
know, big huge waves breaking through
the river mouth, and so we got

476
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.880
up our courage and we hit the
throttle full ahead and pointed the bow of

477
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.800
that boat to the river mouth and
got on the crest of a wave and

478
00:47:54.880 --> 00:48:00.760
we searched right for it was one
of the most memorable experiences of my life,

479
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.840
I gotta tell you. And he
did the same thing apparently, and

480
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.880
he sent a photo of Yfu sixty
two about a month after it was hit

481
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:14.639
a mine on the two limb of
patrol area. Photo two is a PBR

482
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.480
of course, protecting one of our
many slow voyages up the Quaviete to Donggha

483
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:22.880
Lst Ramp in the background. Photo
three is Yfu sixty two sunk again.

484
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:29.039
Photo four dredged near the mouth of
the river. Photo five marines on the

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00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.599
shore of the river at Quaviete.
Photo six company of soldiers we took from

486
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:38.400
Doangha to Quaviat for weekend of R
and R on board BLCU fourteen ninety nine.

487
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:43.920
I mentioned the video I made from
eight millimeter movies that I took while

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00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:45.320
in country. If you are interested, let me know. It has a

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00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:52.880
lot of footage of Dongha and Quaviat
and the river. Joe LCU fourteen ninety

490
00:48:52.039 --> 00:49:00.519
nine. Gee, thank you sir. This is one of the most beautiful

491
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:05.239
gifts I ever received in my entire
life. Thank you for taking the time

492
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:09.800
and carry enough to bother to put
this all together. I am crying,

493
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.480
not a lie. Chief, you
and the rest of the non vets paid

494
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.199
well beyond your fair share of does
if you were ignored and spat upon.

495
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:23.440
I didn't do that and don't now. November eleventh is coming up. I

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00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.559
will say an early thank you to
you and all the rest that gave so

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00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:34.760
much of themselves not in vain and
still do that I and others might be

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00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.639
free. Thank you Chief from the
bottom of my heart. And may God,

499
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.239
since you are a Christian, I
don't know how to phrase it,

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00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.559
eternally bless you and your family with
greatest good for all you have done.

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00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:53.360
Signed John I was stationed on the
Yr seventy one in the NAG and made

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00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:59.440
it to the Quavite area a couple
of times before we moved south to Tanchow

503
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.119
and closed. There are a few
patches that I either wore or collected while

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00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:09.320
in the area. Also are two
pages from Changes nineteen seventy the yearbook for

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00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:15.159
NSA D NAG and the different detachments. If you are interested, I can

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00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.280
xerox them and send them to you. I can also copy the main history

507
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.840
pages in the book and send them
to you. Quabat is mentioned several times

508
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:31.039
and it has some information that you
may find interesting. I also have a

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00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:36.280
plaque that was given to me from
River Division five point forty three and can

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00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:42.840
scan the emblem part of it if
I can find it. Signed Steve Machinists

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00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:47.840
make third Class Yr seventy one,
Republic of Vietnam sixty eight sixty nine,

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00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:59.760
seventy and seventy one. Nice site
from Vett's Roll Call for veterans and built

513
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:05.679
by that friends. Just a quick
note to let you know I got your

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00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.800
reply on the link and am impressed
with a very good start to the site.

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00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:14.920
It may take a while, but
I now have the address and we'll

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00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.679
have to dust off some of the
old albums, but we go forward what

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00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:24.440
I can. Thanks again for taking
the initiative, James. Nice job on

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00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:30.360
the site. Bill. I was
attached to River Division five twenty one from

519
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:36.840
February sixty eight to August sixty nine. I remember the days. All you

520
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:40.039
guys stayed with us for a while. Never made it to Mouth of River.

521
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:45.679
We patrolled a small river north of
our location two y two. It

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00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.880
was supposed to emerge into Quang Tree
City. Eventually the river was so narrow

523
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.360
we couldn't turn our boat around.
Now that's small. We also patrolled the

524
00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:00.760
Perfume and two E tend that ended
at cal High Bay. There's a picture

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00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:05.400
of me on our website under photos
by Jenkins. I think I'm on the

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00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:12.559
middle photo sitting forward of the gun
trays David Williams, Gunner's mate. I

527
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.239
don't know how you found me.
This is a new post, folks.

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00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.480
I don't know how you found me, but that's okay. I checked out

529
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.639
your site, and I hope you
find all the guys from your unit that

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00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:27.920
you can. My new site is
up on my personal page. I have

531
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:31.920
put a link to your site.
This site is for right now best seen

532
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:37.480
in Internet Explorer five and up.
When I was over there, my radio

533
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.039
relay unit set up a radio site
near your base in the Quang Tree Province

534
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.599
in the Lake part of sixty eight. Good luck, Louis Davis, Panama

535
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:54.760
City, Florida. Simplfi, simplfive, Simplify to all you wonderful Marines is

536
00:52:54.840 --> 00:53:00.639
served in Vietnam. I've never seen
or heard of and I don't even believe

537
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:07.320
any have ever existed as fine and
as wonderful as all of you were and

538
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:16.880
are. River Rat here as a
two time Vietnam VET, I was on

539
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:24.880
the YRBM sixteen from sixty seven from
two sixty seven to twelve sixty seven when

540
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:30.599
I got off after it was hit
by an enemy mine. After two days

541
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.119
of fighting the fire, we finally
got it put out. We lost two

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00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.400
out of ship's company and five out
of river commands. The memories of that

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00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:44.280
night I can still remember. I
can often still see their faces, and

544
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.440
I've tried to forget, but I
don't think that will happen. The allotments

545
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:51.760
slap in the faces when we had
to bring those people to this country.

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00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.760
Yes, I'm still a little bit
bitter. Did we ever even get a

547
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.880
thank you from those people? No? And wherein God Green arth for the

548
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:05.000
rest of the POWs that are still
over there. I have a buddy who

549
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.960
was over there who lost part of
his right foot because of rocket trapnel,

550
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:13.719
and to this day he's still a
basket case, but he is doing better

551
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.760
as long as he stays away from
the booze. I went back for a

552
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:22.639
second tour from sixty nine to seventy. I was also on the YRBM twenty

553
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.360
one as a boat cox him while
was over there. The second time,

554
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:30.440
I had a boat run to the
YRBM sixteen, but when I got there,

555
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:34.199
I could not go on board because
of the bad memories. I was

556
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.079
asked years ago if I would ever
go back, and I said no,

557
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:45.159
Well, I'm signing out river rat
out my stay there was around ten hours.

558
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:52.239
We delivered one million, eight hundred
thousand cans of beer. I know

559
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.920
I counted the pallets. I'm working
as a webmaster, and yes, I

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00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.519
know how to scan. You can
see my Quavette pictures at this address,

561
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.800
and he gives me an address.
There are ten shots I made there,

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00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.960
and you're welcome to use any of
them for non commercial uses. Keep up

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00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:12.679
the good work, Allan, and
Allan, I bet you I'd drank at

564
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:17.000
least five hundred thousand cans of that
beer that you delivered to our rank.

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00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.920
But I got to tell you,
nobody ever touched the Ballentines beer, not

566
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:27.639
even the Marines, and they'd drink
anything. It sat there on the pallets

567
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:31.719
until it literally rusted and rotted away, and a beer drained off into the

568
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:38.599
River and all the fish died of
Ballentin's poisoning. That was the maraunxious beer

569
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:45.480
I've ever encountered in my entire life. It had to be raunchia. Marines

570
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:50.760
wouldn't drink it, believe me.
Keep me posted on how it's going,

571
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:54.679
and please keep in touch. I
am glad I found you, Linda.

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00:55:54.960 --> 00:56:00.559
I am a retired Army officer,
two tours in VIETNAMS Cavalry, fourth Infant

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00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:07.599
Infantry Division. Good site. Keep
it up, Kendall. I knew a

574
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:13.119
couple of your guys from Mayor Island. Best wishes, Bob Jenkins, Gunner's

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00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.400
mate, third Class River Division five
Te ten ME Task Force clear Water.

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00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:23.840
It appears that you are also a
good start on your web page, and

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00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:31.440
we at PBR Courses Veterans Association Incorporated
PDR FVA wish you good luck in your

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00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:36.559
endeavor. Thank you for signing our
guestbook. Cecil H. Martin, Vice

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00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:43.800
President, Membership Chairman, PDR FVA. It's the PBR of Courses Veterans Association.

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00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:47.679
And this was enigmatic. I got
an email that says, simply,

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00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:54.360
who are you signed? Scott?
Well, Scott, if you're listening now,

582
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:57.679
you know if you're not. You
may never know. I sent you

583
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:02.239
an email telling you so. That
was kind of I laughed when I saw

584
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:08.159
that. Hi, I have a
friend who produces documentaries for PBS. I

585
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:14.079
have forwarded your website to him.
His name is Richard Koberly. If he

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00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:19.880
contacts you may take months, but
is something to think about. Riverboat got

587
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:24.719
such little play during the war,
It's time. Hi. Gene is out

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00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:29.360
to sea right now, but we'll
respond when returns. I'm not sure how

589
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:32.000
many more photos he has, but
we'll check and send stories to match.

590
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:37.960
Do you still have the previous ones? We'll get details on those good jobs

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00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:44.960
signs too. Was just wondering he
was the same age as me. It

592
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.440
would be nice to find someone who
knew the guy. I also adopted a

593
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:54.199
Naval Reserve pilot who disappeared in sixty
eight, William Rickards. I'm hesitant to

594
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:58.920
try to contact the families. I
would like to know what these men look

595
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.199
like, but there are boundaries I
don't want to cross. Not sure where

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00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:06.599
to go to find out more.
Are you familiar with the river Rats Brown

597
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:12.119
Water Navy organization? I joined it
for Tom. I'm always doing these things

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00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:21.360
to him. Ha good Organization signs
DM. I added a link to your

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00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:25.480
my d Nang page. I like
your site. Monty Moore, United States

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00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:31.199
Air Force Sentry Dog Handler, Danang
Airbase and Food Cat Airbase, Republic of

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00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:40.800
Vietnam sixty eight through seventy VSPA K
nine web pass Webmaster Bill, good job.

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00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.280
I'm still searching for pictures. I
will keep you posted. Keep up

603
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:50.559
the good work. Your web page
made my skin crawl. I don't mean

604
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:55.880
that in a bad way, respectfully, Engineman, thanks for telling me about

605
00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:01.360
your website. It is very informity. Although I only saw Quabet from the

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00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:07.880
deck of the USS Knak SUBI AOG
fifty six, I was very familiar with

607
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:14.159
the area. Your description is superb. Congratulations on a job well done,

608
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:19.880
Paul, Webmaster USS Knak Subie.
The Knak Sube was a gasoline tanker.

609
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:24.360
It would come along with the Genesee
or the Tom Digby and they would they

610
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:31.079
would hook up to the offshore fuel
line at the buoy and pump fuel to

611
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:37.280
us. That kept our boats running
and all that kind of stuff. Hello,

612
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:40.280
I just looked at your page.
It is very well done. I

613
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:45.519
created the page titled do you know
this Man? For my brother in law

614
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:50.079
to try and help him locate the
man and the photo posted there. After

615
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.960
I heard his story and saw the
photo, I decided to try and help

616
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:58.920
him. I figured eventually someone would
see the photo and recognize the man.

617
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:04.840
Received some nice emails from veterans,
but so far none that know the man

618
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:08.599
in the picture. I really enjoyed
looking at your page and I wish you

619
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:14.960
success with it. You have some
very nice photos posted there. I have

620
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:19.760
bookmarked the page. Would you mind
if I added a link from Hung's page

621
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:24.159
to yours? I think the veterans
who come in to look at the picture

622
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:29.760
on Hung's page would enjoy visiting yours. Let me know. Have a great

623
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:37.440
day, Sheila. Thank you for
your website. We will be sure to

624
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:43.679
watch as you grow. My husband
was on the PBRs in nineteen sixty seven

625
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:50.000
makon Delta River Rats section five to
one to two. I have spent considerable

626
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:53.639
time searching for some of his friends
from that time. He is not into

627
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:58.679
the web building like I am.
I have just never forgotten that time,

628
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:04.960
nor his leaving for VA Vietnam or
his return. I have major respects for

629
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:10.760
all that served on the boats,
and I've tried, and I have tried

630
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:15.800
to create my own from a woman's
viewpoint, little altar to all that were

631
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:22.559
there. You guys were brave beyond
belief, and I am glad that I

632
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:27.639
didn't have access to the site of
a blown apart river patrol boat in those

633
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:32.519
days. It was hard enough just
being separated. Thanks again, Din and

634
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:38.119
Tom, who's out fooling around with
his model railroad as I write this great

635
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:43.440
site has sent to our webmaster to
put on the MRFA site as a link.

636
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:50.719
Albert, beautiful piece, Hot beer
and cold beans. That pretty well

637
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.079
sums up that war. Awful experience, awesome report. The graphics are just

638
01:01:55.320 --> 01:02:04.960
fantastic. Richard Palmquist, Chief,
I looked at the photos once again.

639
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:09.599
You and your crew had to have
some real guts to go up river at

640
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:15.119
night on a little dinky patrol boat
alone against the viet Cong and the North

641
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:21.159
Vietnamese army who knew pretty much when
and where you would cruise by. And

642
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:23.559
you don't have just a bunch of
room on a river to maneuver in.

643
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:30.039
You can't get out at mark one
like the flyboys do if you get zapped

644
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:38.280
either, Damn Chief. That is
real elegant signed John Bill. Quaviet website

645
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:43.400
looks great. Takes a bit of
time to load, but well worth.

646
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:47.079
It felt like I was there with
you when you described the ambush. Do

647
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:52.280
you have a larger sized picture of
the photo photo entitled the Moment before Sunrise

648
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:58.480
Quaviet River. It is a beautiful
sunrise and would make a really nice wallpaper

649
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:01.840
for a PC. Well, I'm
off to continue preparing the vehicles for winter.

650
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:07.599
It's coming. I can smell it
in the air. Monty Radio fever

651
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.880
month. No, Monty, I
don't What you see on that page is

652
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:15.639
exactly the size, and if you
try to make it any bigger, it

653
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:22.400
just disintegrates. Wish I could help
you with that. That's it, folks.

654
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:29.320
The website is quavit dot org see
U A V E T dot o

655
01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:32.199
RG. If you know anybody who
served their turn them on to it.

656
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:37.559
Help us out and go there.
Check it out and check in from time

657
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:44.199
to time. It's going to grow
beyond your wildest dreams. I guarantee it.

658
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.079
Good night, folks, God bless
each and every single one of you.

659
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:53.199
Welcome home, all my long lost
brothers. You have no idea how

660
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:59.079
much all this means to me and
to everybody else who has just been lost

661
01:04:00.440 --> 01:08:20.439
since then. Good night, Aniquel
Allison, I love you us. Okay,

662
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:27.880
all right, let's move on to
the next thing. And if anybody's

663
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:30.079
wondering why it says November six,
it's because they let him sit there for

664
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:35.239
fifteen hours before pronouncing him dead.
So it says November six because that's when

665
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:42.079
they made the proclamation. But he
was shown killed. Maybe it was a

666
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.920
little bit after midnight, but it
was, you know, I don't know

667
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:48.560
when it was, but between eleven
and twelve, maybe a little bit after,

668
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:54.399
but fifteen hours later when they finally
pronounced them dead, because it's when

669
01:08:54.439 --> 01:09:00.319
they decided to finally even move his
body. Absolutely, no medical assistance matter,

670
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:09.479
just let him sit there like a
dog. Oh yeah, I forgot

671
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:12.840
I have to do this other part. Let me get the next one up,

672
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.119
stupid all right, anyway, moving
on, Let's get this one going

673
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:27.520
and share that one. Okay,
So the beginning is going to be I'm

674
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.600
gonna play the whole thing, so
you're gonna see all of it. I

675
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.560
contemplated just skipping to the end where
they talked about his death, but I

676
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.640
think for those of you haven't seen
this I've I've shared this before in a

677
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:44.079
video. Where's the big screen?
How do you make a big where is

678
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:51.640
it? Hm? Band? The
right thing? Oh? Well, that

679
01:09:51.680 --> 01:10:00.880
would explain it. Let's do that
first. Still, shouldn't there be a

680
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:09.359
the hell? Where's the full screen? Eh? Whatever? Let's it played?

681
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:26.920
There we go. On November fifth, two thousand and one, world

682
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:32.880
renowned author, lecturer, radio show
host, and ex Naval intelligence officer William

683
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:49.640
Cooper was murdered under suspicious circumstances outside
his home in Eager, Arizona. This

684
01:10:49.680 --> 01:11:08.880
is the story, reality time is
this should get nat. What I'm going

685
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:14.239
to talk to you about today comes
from my heart, from my experience in

686
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:20.199
life, from playing this role as
messenger, which I take very seriously,

687
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:28.479
from my efforts to wake up the
American people, from my family, from

688
01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:30.760
all the letters that I get,
the people that I talk to, just

689
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:38.119
like I've talked to many of you
here today. I've learned some things and

690
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:42.079
I think these things need to be
passed on to you. And I think

691
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:48.680
you need to start examining yourself,
your agenda, your mission. Who are

692
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.359
you, what are you about?
What do you believe about America? Is

693
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:56.880
it true? Are you helping to
divide us more? Are you helping to

694
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.720
bring us together? Do you really
understand what this country is all about?

695
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.560
If you listen to short wave radio
throughout the nineteen nineties, you were bound

696
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:25.800
to invariably come across the sound of
a captivating voice in the wilderness. That

697
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:30.880
authoritative and self assured voice, for
five nights a week would educate us,

698
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:36.560
enlighten us, and most importantly,
warn us of things to come. So

699
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:45.279
they disguised their true intent and their
true teachings the esoltary for the system of

700
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:54.520
exotary descriptions to the profane would mean
one thing, and to the initiative of

701
01:12:54.600 --> 01:13:00.239
the adept would being quite another.
But that was then. This is now

702
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:06.319
what sort of creature inhabits the modern
domain? Who is the modern man?

703
01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:15.239
That voice spoke to us of matter
as esoteric and exotechic, political and supernatural,

704
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:23.119
scientific, and lawful. That voice
was world renowned author, radio show

705
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:28.479
host, and ex naval intelligence officer
Milton William Cooper, otherwise known as Bill

706
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:35.720
Cooper. I was reared in the
military family. My father's an Air Force

707
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:40.479
colonel. He's retired now he's a
command pilot, and I traveled all over

708
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.319
the world, lived on a military
basis. For most of my life,

709
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:49.279
I was really an indoctrinated individual,
and might say I was as establishment as

710
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:57.319
you could get, as gung ho
pro government, pro America, pro military.

711
01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:00.279
And that's why I went into the
military, because that had been so

712
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.319
much of my life. I went
into the Air Force. I was in

713
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:09.520
the Strategic Air Command for four years
as an aircraft and missile nudraulic technician.

714
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.119
Bill f the Air Force in nineteen
sixty five to join the United States Navy.

715
01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:17.279
Cooper was a member of the Office
of Naval Security and Intelligence, serving

716
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:23.000
as a harbor and River patrol boat
captain at De Nang and the Dongha River

717
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:29.279
Security Group QUA Viete, Republic of
Vietnam. William Cooper was awarded several medals

718
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:33.479
for his leadership and heroism during combat, including two with V for valor.

719
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:39.079
He served on the intelligence briefing team
for the Commander in Chief of the Pacific

720
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:44.560
Fleet. It was during this time
Bill would witness something that would forever change

721
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:47.840
his life. While we were on
a transit from the Portland, Seattle area

722
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:54.159
on the surface, I actually saw
how was the port lookout? And I

723
01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:58.079
saw the most incredible thing, and
I think I've ever seen in my life,

724
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:03.720
and it had such a profound effect
upon my view of the universe,

725
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:09.840
in the world that we live in, that I wish everybody could experience.

726
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:14.000
This. I saw come up out
of the ocean from beneath the surface of

727
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:18.079
the sea. A huge disc shaped
craft about the size of a midway class

728
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:23.560
aircraft carrier, which is tremendous in
size, came up out of the ocean.

729
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.119
It rose into the air and tumbled
on its axis and went up into

730
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:30.720
the clouds. And I was awestruck, dumbstruck, and I mean dumbstruck literally.

731
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:36.359
I could not utter a sound.
And my first impulse was to tell

732
01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:39.840
the aufs of the deck that I'd
seen a flying saucer. And then,

733
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:44.439
luckily for me, I couldn't talk, So I told the also the deck

734
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:47.159
that I'd seen something about fifteen degrees
off the port bow, at a relative

735
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:54.760
distance of about two and a half
ninecle miles. And he began to look

736
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:59.560
in that area, and the starboard
lookout had heard me tell him this.

737
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:04.840
You had to look over there,
and it did something that, as far

738
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:11.000
as I knew, was absolutely impossible. I'd been in the Air Force,

739
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:16.720
I'd worked on the state of the
art of our aviation capabilities. And here

740
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.960
I was from the deck of a
submarine, from the conning tower, and

741
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:26.479
I knew what we had to be
able to have to go underwater, and

742
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:30.199
I knew that the two were incompatible. Here's something that came from under the

743
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:34.239
water and flew in the air and
performed maneuvers and then came back down and

744
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:44.840
interfaced with the water at tremendous speed
and remained intact, which realistically had never

745
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:46.880
touched the water. The water sort
of magically opened up in front of it.

746
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:51.279
But something had to interface with that
water. Anything that we had that

747
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:55.920
interfaced with the water in that manner
would have been disintegrated. It's like hitting

748
01:16:55.920 --> 01:17:02.159
a brick wall. So I was
looking at a technology that, as far

749
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.840
as our laws of physics and what
we knew at that time, didn't exist.

750
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:10.239
And this was in nineteen sixty six. But when we reached Pearl Harbor,

751
01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:16.239
we were not allowed to go ashore
to go on liberty, even though

752
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:21.960
we didn't have the duty. And
about two hours after we birthed at the

753
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:27.720
submarine base, a commander from the
Office of Naval Intelligence came on board and

754
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:32.920
debriefed each one of us individually in
the captain's stateroom, and the ultimate outcome

755
01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:36.319
of the debriefing was that we didn't
see anything, we didn't hear anything,

756
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:41.199
and we had to read rules and
regulations that told us that if we ever

757
01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:45.199
talked about what it was that we
didn't see, that we could be imprisoned.

758
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:49.239
We could be fined ten thousand dollars, we could lose all pain allowances,

759
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:53.560
do whoever to become due. And
I learned at that moment that the

760
01:17:53.640 --> 01:18:00.760
United States Navy didn't want anybody to
know about what we saw, and that

761
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:05.439
severe consequences could come down around the
neck of anybody who did this. One

762
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:11.760
event had started Bill on what would
become a lifelong quest that would lead him

763
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:16.520
into investigative territories such as extraterrestrial life, high level of government cover ups,

764
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:23.520
and the role secret Society's play in
all these scenarios. Bill had begun to

765
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:28.520
publicly discuss his findings, only to
lose his leg after being forced off the

766
01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:32.319
road by people who would later visit
him in the hospital, telling him to

767
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:38.880
keep quiet. Bill went public once
again, but made sure this time he

768
01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:46.439
was protected originally back I guess when
Bill was first starting to release all of

769
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:51.880
this material. He had released a
document called the Secret Government subtitled the Origin,

770
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:57.079
Identity, and Purpose of MJ twelve. And Bill had spent a considerable

771
01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:00.880
amount of his fortune at that time
there was any fortune, but considerable amount

772
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.960
of his money to endo the tens
of thousands of dollars to get this document

773
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:11.119
released and disseminated across North America in
the world. So he had mailed it

774
01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:16.159
to all sorts of congressman, key
political figures, as well as some friends

775
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:19.960
and family and things like that,
just so people would have this document in

776
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:25.079
their hands. And that's how I
protected myself, or at least that's what

777
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:27.920
I thought would protect me, and
so far it's proven to be right.

778
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:31.520
Was that if I got literally in
front of the public overnight, in front

779
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.239
of a large public, that they
wouldn't do anything to me because it would

780
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:40.880
substantiate what it was that I'm saying, and they certainly don't want to do

781
01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:45.720
that, but also create a martyr, and martyrs create tremendously dangerous political movements

782
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:51.960
that they don't want that either.
So literally, within a twenty four hour

783
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:58.840
period, I spent twenty seven thousand
dollars mailing a thick packet of information all

784
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:02.000
over the world to people I'd never
heard of, didn't know the town,

785
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:04.520
and got some mailing lists and just
mailed the stuff all over the world.

786
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:10.039
And I've been in front of the
public ever since. So I think basically

787
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:12.840
those are the reasons they don't believe
that the public's really going to listen to

788
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:16.720
me, And so far that's been
true. There is a small group of

789
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:21.439
people all over the world who are
awakening, who are beginning to understand that

790
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:26.800
they've been living their life in fantasy, and who are actively seeking the truth.

791
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:34.199
But by and large, when the
Secret Power Structure says, as I've

792
01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:38.359
put in the first chapter of my
book, right out of one of their

793
01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:44.039
own technical manuals, that a nation
or world of people who do not use

794
01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:47.760
their intelligence are no better than animals
who do not have intelligence, and thus

795
01:20:47.800 --> 01:20:51.680
there are stakes on the table by
choice and consent, they're absolutely right about

796
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:57.000
the majority of people. Bill was
frightened for his life back in those days,

797
01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:00.880
and he needed some way to get
the information out to a large number

798
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:03.760
of people. And keep in mind, this was in the days long before

799
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:09.399
the Internet, so there was no
real practical, very easy way for people

800
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:15.279
to do this kind of disseminating their
information or documents that they had. It

801
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:16.880
was very difficult back in those days, and the only way would have been

802
01:21:16.920 --> 01:21:20.520
through Probably the printed word would have
been the easiest way. So that's what

803
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:24.399
Bill had done. He had made
many many copies of this Secret Government.

804
01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:30.439
The Secret Government was an amalgamation of
Bill's continued research into UFO phenomenon and was

805
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:35.960
first introduced at They Move Fon Symposium
on July TEWOD nineteen eighty nine in Las

806
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:42.319
Vegas, Nevada. The document highlighted
his research into the UFO crash in the

807
01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:46.560
late forties in Roswell, New Mexico, and documents that alluded to President Truman's

808
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:54.840
knowledge of extra terrestrial life and his
administration's efforts to keep it quiet. Cooper

809
01:21:55.079 --> 01:22:01.399
had seen these documents while serving in
Naval Intelligence. When they began to have

810
01:22:01.479 --> 01:22:05.560
confidence in me, I began to
see things coming across my desk that were

811
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:14.239
just absolutely incredible, And a lot
of it is really hard to talk about

812
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:19.640
because of so far outside the normal
concept of reality for the average American that

813
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:27.199
they're going to find a hard time
believing any of it. But I saw

814
01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:34.520
documents that were labeled under the classification
top secret, and the compartmentalized of the

815
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:38.840
compartment that that was put into it
was called Magic M A J I C.

816
01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:44.239
Which told me that UFO is a
real which I already knew I had

817
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:47.039
seen one, but this went farther
than that. It told me that they

818
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:55.119
were extraterrestrial in origin, that there
were four different extraterrestrial species or races visiting

819
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:59.439
this Earth, and that they had
actually entered into an agreement with the United

820
01:22:59.479 --> 01:23:05.119
States government with one of these species
of alien beings to exchange technology, and

821
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:13.600
told me all the projects that was
underneath this Project red Light was actually the

822
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:23.520
testing of extraterrestrial craft. Project Plato
was a diplomatic project. Pounce was the

823
01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:30.960
recovery of technology. Pluto was the
application of that technology to our own secret

824
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:34.079
space program, not the public space
program. There are two different space programs.

825
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:40.680
One is what the public gets to
see, which is overseen by NASA,

826
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:44.640
and the other one is a secret
space program that nobody gets to see,

827
01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:54.680
which is really overseen by the Navy
Department under specialized, compartmentalized black projects.

828
01:23:55.319 --> 01:24:00.520
I also saw documents under an operation
called Operation Majority, which outlined the

829
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:06.319
plans to bring together in one world
government and also included extraterrestrial information within that.

830
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:14.720
Project Grudge, which was the second
project first was signed, and then

831
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:20.000
Project Grudge which contained all of the
extraterrestrial information up to a certain point I

832
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:26.279
forget the year cut off, and
then it was contained after that in another

833
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:30.600
project called Project Aquarius, which was
the accumulation of the whole history of alien

834
01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:35.760
interaction on the planet Earth. But
I have to say at this point that

835
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:40.880
I don't know if those documents were
really telling the truth or not. They

836
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:44.439
could have been showing me these things
so that eventually I would go out and

837
01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:48.159
talk about this, and maybe that'll
become clear to you later why they may

838
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:55.760
have done that. It could be
real. Bill at this time was acquiring

839
01:24:55.760 --> 01:25:00.520
a reputation as a UFO specialist.
Unlike others in the movie. At that

840
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:06.039
time, Bill's credibility was unique because
of his experience in naval intelligence in the

841
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:12.279
late nineteen nineties. However, Bill
reconsidered much of what he was saying as

842
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:16.199
his research led him to believe the
technology he and others were witnessing may have

843
01:25:16.279 --> 01:25:21.239
been the creation of our own government, created and tested in areas such as

844
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:28.279
the infamous Gloom Lake Area fifty one
in Nevada, where Bill filmed his documentary

845
01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:34.880
project Red Light. Bill was actually
the first one to go to Area fifty

846
01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:41.159
one and start filming some of these
UFOs or alien spacecraft, whatever they may

847
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:44.359
have been. Bill always maintained that
it was a military base, which it

848
01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:47.640
is. We all know that now. In the early days, the US

849
01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:54.880
military refused to even acknowledge it existed
until Bill Cooper got an aerol a satellite

850
01:25:54.880 --> 01:26:00.920
photograph from the Russians which proved it
existed. We could see the landing strips,

851
01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:04.720
all this kind of stuff, and
clearly there was some sort of infrastructure

852
01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:11.560
there. There were buildings and something
was happening. So Bill decided for a

853
01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:15.039
number of years was taking expeditions up
to Area fifty one and he would take

854
01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:17.279
people there and maybe one night they
wouldn't see anything at all, but most

855
01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:25.279
nights there was some UFO activity.
Doyle Shanley, a Gulf War veteran an

856
01:26:25.439 --> 01:26:30.039
Army reservist, had paralleled Bill's quest
for answers. The two met at a

857
01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:34.479
research conference Doyle had been arranging,
and soon the two became tight research allies.

858
01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:41.399
Doyle would eventually leave the reserve and
join Bill in Arizona to conduct full

859
01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:46.399
time research up until Bill's death.
Then he realized his research at the time

860
01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:51.960
was heavily with Lars Hansen and many
of them in the UFO realm. And

861
01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:55.840
he realized that most of them,
and a lot of them upon and middle

862
01:26:55.880 --> 01:27:00.279
and I have the documents, admitted
to being working for either the past or

863
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:08.039
still being on CIA payroll. And
he exposed him heavily speaking, gave engagements

864
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:15.079
and accused them of falsifying ah facts
as they called him to steer people away

865
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:19.159
from an eventual finding out of all
the facts and send him down all these

866
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:24.079
wild goose chases in all the history
of the world, Folks, if we

867
01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:26.760
were really being visited by extra first
of the life, don't you think we

868
01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:31.479
would have found one by now,
don't you think so? And how come

869
01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:39.319
the government always gets there first.
It's pound up time, it's in the

870
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:43.359
middle of nowhere, there's a farmer
Milkany's pale, flying sous and cratches,

871
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:59.039
and the government gets there before he
could get from his tale to the It's

872
01:27:59.119 --> 01:28:04.079
ridiculous. And I, in the
beginning our first game public I may have

873
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:10.039
been misleading somebody along the lines that
this whole thing is being brought out by

874
01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:15.079
extraterrestrials. I think some of us
were really used in the service of our

875
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:19.880
country, and I'm very angry about
that. He then realized that the scope

876
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:26.079
of it was not going to be
handled by just searching the paranormal. We

877
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:30.079
had to get more into our worldly
realm right here, right now, the

878
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:36.000
politics, the economics, and that's
when he shifted more towards government's type studies.

879
01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:39.840
In the history of the world,
there have never been the people who

880
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.640
were truly free or who truly ruled
themselves until the United States of America was

881
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:48.840
created as a republic by which we
rule ourselves through electric representatives. Then we

882
01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:54.680
sent to the state House, either
in the States or or to Congress to

883
01:28:54.760 --> 01:29:00.560
do They also gave us every tool
by which we were just destroy ourselves if

884
01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:06.279
we weren't capable of doing it.
The United States and France, the Revolution

885
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:11.520
in this country and the Revolution in
France, were created to bring about governments

886
01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:16.680
which would function as the antithesis to
the kings and queens of the world and

887
01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:23.760
cause them to topple off their thrones. It also gave man a chance to

888
01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:27.000
prove once and for all, whether
he could rule himself or not, and

889
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:30.960
if he could find that would be
the new world order. If he couldn't,

890
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:34.800
they built the tools into the Constitution
to allow them to take it away

891
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:44.840
from us. And those tools are
the creation of the federal democracy within the

892
01:29:44.840 --> 01:29:49.319
boundaries of Washington, d c.
And the right to contract, through which,

893
01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:54.760
if we were irresponsible, we would
contract to receive rights from that federal

894
01:29:54.800 --> 01:30:00.000
democracy and thus in return give up
our freedom. And that's exactly what's happening.

895
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.800
After lecturing, releasing documents, and
doing talk radio for a number of

896
01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:12.199
years, Bill had finally synthesized his
research, life experiences, and philosophical insights

897
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:16.840
into what would become one of the
most popular underground conspiracy books of all time,

898
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:23.039
Behold a Pale Horse. Beyond a
Doubt, I think the work that

899
01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:28.479
introduced Bill Cooper to the world has
to be Behold a Pale Horse. Now

900
01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:33.319
Bill had released we have to pause
here just for me to clarify that I

901
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:39.680
think that this guy is a jackass, and I think that he helped bring

902
01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:44.640
down the show after Bill and I
don't know this for sure, but I

903
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:53.159
have suspicions as to how Doyle and
Bill just magically met each other in light

904
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:56.680
of certain things. But we'll just
leave it at that for now. A

905
01:30:56.720 --> 01:31:00.000
lot of other documents and things,
but up until nineteen nine when the book

906
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:06.239
was published self funded by the way, the book starts out with Bill describing

907
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:12.039
himself who Bill Cooper is. He
was reared in an Air Force family,

908
01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:20.920
through his early childhood years up to
when he came back from Vietnam, and

909
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:25.840
then where he got all this information
that he was putting into his book and

910
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:30.680
why he felt compelled that he had
to release this information. This title is

911
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:32.960
from the Book of Revelations, because
I have to tell you this, and

912
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:36.960
you may think I'm nuts if you
want to, but this is the truth.

913
01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:43.039
Either these men are following the Book
of Revelation. The Book of Revelation

914
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:49.159
is it is in the Bible.
They're either following it just like a plan

915
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:58.319
and bringing the prophecies in there to
pass, to manipulate and control those who

916
01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:00.640
believe in those prophecies, and neutral
so to speak. In other words,

917
01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:05.079
if this is written in the Bible
and God has ordained it, who am

918
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:09.640
I to resist? It must come
to pass. So I'm not gonna I'm

919
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:13.880
not going to try to stop it. What a perfect way to neutralize the

920
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:19.840
opposition right off the bat r There
really is a God, and what he

921
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:25.000
said was going to come to pass
is coming to pass. And I named

922
01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:30.920
this behold a pale horse from Chapter
thirteen of the Book of Revelations, the

923
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:36.319
fourth horse, the fourth horseman of
the Apocalypse is the pale horse. And

924
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:42.000
I looked and behold a pale horse. And his name that sat upon him

925
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:46.199
was Death. And hell followed with
him, and power was given unto them

926
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:50.560
over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword and with hunger,

927
01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:55.680
and with the beasts of the earth. And that is taking place now

928
01:32:55.760 --> 01:33:00.319
today. The fourth Horseman is riding
across the world. Now, that's what

929
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:04.039
aids it's all about. That's what
all these little brush fire wars all over

930
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:10.239
the world are all about. That's
what's happening. That's why cancer cures are

931
01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:15.359
suppressed. So it's not hidden at
all. It's there for anybody who wants

932
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:17.439
to look. And I get people
who still come to me all the time

933
01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:20.119
and say, Bill, you're all
wrong. It's the Jews. The Jews

934
01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:24.800
are subverting the world. Man,
it's not the Jews, it's not the

935
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:29.279
Catholics. It's not the blacks.
It's these men who belong to the ancient

936
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:33.640
mystery schools who meet in secret deside
the fate of the world. Yeah,

937
01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:40.359
but there is a common connection there
and it comes from the Kabbalah, mysticism,

938
01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:49.640
from the I guess you could say
Persian area Vedic mythology, and like

939
01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:56.560
he says, the mystery schools.
But the Frankests are infiltrating, have infiltrated

940
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:06.000
not just Judaism, but and the
Roman Catholic Church a long time ago,

941
01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:14.159
and the Jesuits mixed in with that. Most of those people are either members

942
01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:19.680
of the Knights of Malta, the
Roman Catholic Church, the Jesuits, and

943
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:27.319
in addition to that, deep down
inside, because you can't express Frankism outwardly,

944
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:31.000
it's part of their duty as a
Frankist. They're Frankests, even I'm

945
01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:36.439
the ones who don't know it but
are working on the behalf of them are

946
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:44.720
serving that same Frankest agenda. And
Frankism is where Zionism spawned from. This

947
01:34:44.840 --> 01:34:47.239
idea from the lowering Kabbalah that they
have to take an active role in forcing

948
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:56.520
the conditions to make God, their
God come back and they belong to all

949
01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:00.720
different races, and all different nationalities, and all different relig jens to the

950
01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:06.159
public point of view, but in
secret, it's a different story. Bill's

951
01:35:06.199 --> 01:35:12.560
second major contribution, and arguably his
most compelling, was the forty two hours

952
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:18.039
worth of dedicated broadcasts into the history, origins, and agendas of secret societies.

953
01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:25.479
The series was simply called Mystery Babylon
and began with an interpretation of the

954
01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:30.880
Stanley Kubrick classic two thousand and one, A Space Odyssey. To simplify,

955
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:35.840
I guess we could say that Bill
took us on a journey through the language,

956
01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:42.000
religion, and symbology of the elite, the power structure. What do

957
01:35:42.079 --> 01:35:45.039
these people believe? He started out
with something modern and then took us way

958
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:53.239
back into the ancient texts of the
mystery schools Ancient Egypt, some of the

959
01:35:55.279 --> 01:36:00.239
beliefs in Mythology of Ancient Egypt,
tons and tons of Masonic works, and

960
01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:17.560
other mystery texts. You are listening
to the hour of the time. I'm

961
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:24.840
your host, William Cooper. Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, we begin the

962
01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:30.560
origin, the history, the dogma, and the identity of the ancient mystery

963
01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:34.159
religions which are now known as the
Mystery Schools, the Order of the Quest

964
01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:42.520
Freemasonry, the ancient Order of the
Road and Cross, the Knights Templar,

965
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:48.600
the Sovereign and Military Orders of the
Knights from Maltam, the Order of Saint

966
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:56.560
John of Jerusalem, the Priory de
Scion, the Thule Society are sometimes known

967
01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:01.800
as the Thule Society, the Order, the Skull and Bones, the Russell

968
01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:09.239
Trust, the Adjacent Society, the
Scroll and Key, the Illuminati, and

969
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:15.960
I could go on and on and
on and on, but the most important

970
01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:20.880
thing to realize is that they all
have been collectively known throughout the ages as

971
01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:28.680
the Mystery Schools, the Illuminati,
which literally means illumined ones. They are

972
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:33.119
all one and the same, as
you will come to know, and you

973
01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:39.119
will understand perfectly how they've been able
to filtrade all of our society. What

974
01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:43.720
you hear tonight does not necessarily reflect
my views. Our beliefs are religion.

975
01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:58.000
They have ruled from the shadows,
you see, and they call themselves the

976
01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:06.039
guardians of the Secrets of the Ages, and their first their first religion was

977
01:38:06.079 --> 01:38:14.760
called astro theology, or the worship
of the heavens, and their first object

978
01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:23.840
of worship was the sun. The
second object of worship was the moon.

979
01:38:24.840 --> 01:38:29.680
And everywhere you see the Mystery Schools
or the Mystery Religion, you will see

980
01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:32.359
the symbols of the Sun and the
moon, also known as of Cyrus,

981
01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:41.359
and isis for in the religion of
the Mystery Schools, they believed that man

982
01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:45.520
was held prisoner in the garden of
Eden by an unjust and vindictive God,

983
01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:55.000
and that man was not told by
this unjustined, vindictive God that he could

984
01:38:55.079 --> 01:39:00.000
have the same palace. And man
was set free from the bonds of ignorance

985
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:06.039
by Lucifer to his agent Satan.
And many believe that the two are the

986
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:13.600
same, and that's okay, because
maybe they are, And that through the

987
01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:20.560
gift of intellect, man himself will
become God. That for those of you

988
01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:26.399
who understand what I am imparting to
you now, you may not even have

989
01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:30.960
to listen any farther, for it
explains everything that has ever happened in the

990
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:34.479
history of man, and everything that
is happening now, and all that is

991
01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:45.319
to happen in the future. They
believe that the tree dwelling ancestors of man

992
01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:51.720
were among the most intelligent beings of
their distant age. And when these creatures

993
01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:57.840
finally abandoned the trees and walked fully
upright, freeing their hands to serve as

994
01:39:57.960 --> 01:40:02.439
implements of their minds as well as
their bod there began the most successful evolutionary

995
01:40:02.520 --> 01:40:17.720
drive toward higher intelligence ever witnessed in
nature. Now, notice Lucifer was called

996
01:40:17.800 --> 01:40:23.199
the sun of the morning Star.
It was also called the morning Star.

997
01:40:24.520 --> 01:40:31.640
And there is a great mystery here, because Christ also called himself the morning

998
01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:36.479
Star. But I have been told
by those who have been initiated in the

999
01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:43.800
mystery schools that Christ and Lucifer are
one and the same being. What you

1000
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.640
believe, of course, is your
own business, and is not my intention

1001
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:53.279
to make you believe anything, but
rather to impart to you what I have

1002
01:40:53.439 --> 01:41:00.680
learned over many, many years of
study to the secrets of those who worship

1003
01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:19.640
the ancient mystery religions in secret for
thousands of years. I do not advise

1004
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:30.079
you what you should believe or not
believe, but I do advise you that

1005
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:35.159
we all need to learn as much
as we can about everything that we can,

1006
01:41:35.960 --> 01:41:41.279
because one thing I have learned in
my life is that most of what

1007
01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:46.760
we have ever been taught has been
a lot, and that whoever these people

1008
01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:50.439
are, who are the priests,
the adepts, and the initiates and the

1009
01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:59.319
mystery schools, they are in control
and they are shaping the future, and

1010
01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:02.399
that future will affect all of us. So we had better learn as much

1011
01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:10.119
about them as we can. One
of the brilliant things about Bill was that

1012
01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:14.760
he was able to fluidly switch between
when he was reading to when he was

1013
01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:19.039
commenting, so that sometimes it was
imperceivable. He had such a fantastic grasp

1014
01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:25.239
of the English language that he could
speak to you almost the same way that

1015
01:42:25.279 --> 01:42:29.920
these ancient texts did. Have to
be very careful about how we interpret what

1016
01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:34.039
we read, especially the Bible.
And I'll tell you why. When I

1017
01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:39.520
researched these secret societies, and I
researched the Bible. By the way,

1018
01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:42.279
I'm a Christian, So if you're
a Christian, don't think i'm knocking your

1019
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:45.720
religion. I'm not just telling you
what I've found. I have found that

1020
01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:49.319
at the very heart and core of
all these secret societies lurks the Kabbala.

1021
01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:58.680
The Kabbala is the ancient Jewish mysticism. It is a method of encoding information

1022
01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:04.039
through a system of math, the
metics, and numbers. It is some

1023
01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:09.760
of the most ancient knowledge that man
has ever possessed, and has been kept

1024
01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:16.000
secret and given only to those who
have proven themselves worthy through the process of

1025
01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:23.560
initiation. Nobody knows where it comes
from. I can tell you this.

1026
01:43:24.239 --> 01:43:27.680
It was there long before the Jews
came along. The Jews just took it

1027
01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:31.279
and preserved it, and they passed
it down and it's used by everybody because

1028
01:43:31.279 --> 01:43:36.279
it's at the heart and core of
the secret knowledge, the metaphysics, the

1029
01:43:36.319 --> 01:43:43.199
real science that none of us know
anything about. These people that belonged to

1030
01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:49.680
the Secret Society never dared to write
down in any language what they knew,

1031
01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:54.560
what it was that they were guarding, because then someone could steal it and

1032
01:43:54.600 --> 01:44:00.960
then the secret would be out.
So they devised secret systems of encoding the

1033
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:03.840
secrets of the ages, the knowledge, the hidden knowledge, the occult.

1034
01:44:05.119 --> 01:44:11.640
Now occult doesn't mean evil, it
doesn't mean the devil, it doesn't mean

1035
01:44:11.720 --> 01:44:20.079
satan. Occult means hidden, means
hidden, that's all it means. So

1036
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:25.960
they took this knowledge and they made
it occult through a system of encoding encryption,

1037
01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:35.880
one of which is mathematics numbers.
Another is architecture. Everybody wonder why

1038
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:40.600
do they have a fraternal organization called
the Freemasons. Aren't those the guys that

1039
01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:46.239
build walls? You bet they do
when every wall they build contains the secrets

1040
01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:50.640
that have been kept and maintained throughout
the ages. And it's encoded in the

1041
01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:56.640
architecture, and in the measurements of
the buildings, and in the mathematical formulas

1042
01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:01.800
used to derive the geometry and the
shape, the length and breadth and height

1043
01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:11.479
of rooms all encoded there. The
very word secrecy is repugnant in a free

1044
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:17.520
and open society. And we are
as a people inherently and historically opposed to

1045
01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:24.920
secret societies, to secret oaths and
the secret proceedings. For we are opposed

1046
01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:31.560
around the world by a monolithic and
ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means

1047
01:45:32.319 --> 01:45:40.279
for expanding its sphere of influence,
on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion,

1048
01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:45.760
instead of elections, on intimidation,
instead of free choice, on guerrillas

1049
01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:51.720
by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted

1050
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:59.600
vast human and material resources into the
building of a tightly knit, highly efficient

1051
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:08.880
machine that combines military diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations.

1052
01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:14.800
Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not

1053
01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:20.239
headlined. Its discentives are silenced,
not praised. No expenditure is questioned,

1054
01:46:20.640 --> 01:46:26.840
no rumor is printed, no secret
is revealed. So they ordered his execution.

1055
01:46:26.960 --> 01:46:29.920
It was actually ordered by the policy
committee of the Builderberg Group in the

1056
01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:33.279
Hague in Geneva, Switzerland, and
was carried out by agents of the secret

1057
01:46:33.279 --> 01:46:40.640
government in Dallas. The man who
actually administered the coup de gras was the

1058
01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:44.520
driver of the car, William Greer. We have a film and beautiful living

1059
01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:48.520
color. I'm going to go ahead
and say that Jackie Gotal wacky still because

1060
01:46:48.520 --> 01:46:53.479
she pulls his head into her lap
and the exit wound comes off the other

1061
01:46:53.560 --> 01:46:56.840
side. You can look at it
yourself anytime you'd like. You'll see this

1062
01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.960
is a Peuterer fill in color.
Look for that one. You can actually

1063
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:03.560
see with your own eyes. William
Grier turned with an assassination pistol in his

1064
01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:09.680
left hand and shoot the president point
blank in the hid over his right shoulder.

1065
01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:14.760
It's incredible. It's been hidden from
the public for all these years,

1066
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:18.079
but the same film has been shown
on television for all these years, but

1067
01:47:18.159 --> 01:47:23.039
they've always dried any Kennedy and cut
the drive rounds. You can never see

1068
01:47:23.079 --> 01:47:27.039
it. It's the Zipruder film.
It was never shown to the Warrent Commission.

1069
01:47:27.079 --> 01:47:57.720
They never saw poor people. By
this time, Bill had become a

1070
01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:02.640
popular lecturer, author, and radio
host. His shortwave radio program The Hour

1071
01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:06.479
of the Time, could be heard
five nights a week throughout the world.

1072
01:48:08.159 --> 01:48:11.680
It was an event. It was
always exciting waiting for the Hour of the

1073
01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:15.560
Time to come on, turning on
your shortwave and hoping that that night that

1074
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:18.680
the propagation was good across the airwaves, because of course shortwave is extremely susceptible

1075
01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:24.760
to weather conditions, and when weather
conditions are favorable, you're heard around the

1076
01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:28.279
world, but when they're not,
you're not heard anywhere. So it was

1077
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:32.199
always there was an anticipation for the
Hour of the Time coming on. I

1078
01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:38.600
love the intro music. I waited
to hear that sirens starting and the dogs

1079
01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:41.560
begin to bark, because you knew
that there was something exciting happening, and

1080
01:48:41.600 --> 01:49:42.279
Bill Cooper was on the air once
again. You are listening to the Hour

1081
01:49:42.359 --> 01:49:45.520
of the Time. I'm William Cooper
for the first time in the history of

1082
01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:51.399
the world man was free, literally
a king and queen in his are her

1083
01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:56.880
own right. Over the years,
that promise is extended to many other people.

1084
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:08.680
That promise eliminated slavery. That promise
has caused or unhappy people living under

1085
01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:13.800
tyranny all over the world to set
their eyes on the shores of this country

1086
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:17.439
with only one thought in their mind
to get here. However, they had

1087
01:50:17.479 --> 01:50:20.479
to get here, and even if
they had to die in the process,

1088
01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:27.159
in order that they could also be
free. And so, why, ladies

1089
01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:33.159
and gentlemen, are we so eager
to give it away for some imaginary new

1090
01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:39.800
world order under a United Nations charter
that it will do away with war forever.

1091
01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:45.319
If you believe that, if you
really believe that, and you fall

1092
01:50:45.359 --> 01:50:49.640
for that deception, it will be
so star for the rest of your lives.

1093
01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:58.279
He had such a way with radio
really took you back to I think

1094
01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:00.600
in the pre TV days when people
used to sit around the radio and listen

1095
01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:03.560
to it. That's what would happen
in my living room. Friends would come

1096
01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:09.279
over and we'd listen to Bill Cooper, and there was a certain nostalgia to

1097
01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:13.520
it. But the fact that he
was dealing with all of these current events

1098
01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:16.800
and things that were happening right before
our eyes, added more drama to the

1099
01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:23.079
whole situation. And it was just
a wonderful experience every night sitting down and

1100
01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:29.399
listening to Bill. Every time any
church gets control of government, the people

1101
01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:35.520
suffer. It has always happened.
That's why our founding fathers established a country

1102
01:51:35.600 --> 01:51:40.640
where that was not supposed to happen, where everybody was free to worship at

1103
01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:44.359
the altar of their choice. And
if you think they were all of one

1104
01:51:44.479 --> 01:51:50.439
mind, you better think again.
How many religions of the Protestant grew do

1105
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:56.239
you think existed in this country when
our founding fathers put together the constitution,

1106
01:51:57.159 --> 01:52:01.399
over fifteen hundred different groups, all
claiming they were right, teaching a different

1107
01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:06.239
dogma, quoting scripture to justify what
they said, and everybody else was going

1108
01:52:06.279 --> 01:52:13.319
to hell. So don't give you
this Christian nation bullshit, because that's what

1109
01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:19.840
it is. This nation reflected Christian
values because the people who made up the

1110
01:52:19.880 --> 01:52:26.159
government in the early days were Christian, but none of them agreed with each

1111
01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:32.000
other, and they still don't today. Bill married, had children and continued

1112
01:52:32.039 --> 01:52:39.439
his life as a messenger by creating
a large global civilian intelligence gathering organization called

1113
01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:45.920
KAJI. CAGI stands for the Citizens'
Agency for Joint Intelligence, and it was

1114
01:52:45.960 --> 01:52:53.960
Bill's research gathering arm of his whole
operation. His principal idea behind CAJI was

1115
01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:59.960
to get a whole group of like
minded researchers and individuals patriots in the US

1116
01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:03.399
and throughout the world. Really,
at one point, the Citizens' Agency for

1117
01:53:03.479 --> 01:53:11.079
Joint Intelligence was the largest civilian intelligence
gathering organization in the world. And the

1118
01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:15.479
one thing about CADGI was that it
wasn't a secret of society like the FBI

1119
01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:19.640
or CIA would be. It was
an intelligence gathering organization with the idea of

1120
01:53:20.199 --> 01:53:25.720
putting this gathered intelligence out to the
rest of the world. During the late

1121
01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:30.760
nineties, Bill's outspoken disposition would find
him harassed by government agents who kept watch

1122
01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:35.720
on him in Arizona and tried desperately
to keep him quiet by accusing him of

1123
01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:43.159
federal violations, including tax evasion and
bank fraud that to this day have yet

1124
01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:49.640
to be validated. Essentially, by
June July ninety eight, I was moved

1125
01:53:49.640 --> 01:53:58.319
here with Bill to conduct full time
research into the mystery schools and secret societies

1126
01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:02.479
and do you notice how he just
said he was moved there. He didn't

1127
01:54:02.520 --> 01:54:06.960
see I moved there. He said, I was moved there like an assignment

1128
01:54:09.119 --> 01:54:15.680
the government protocols in general. I
was in the next town over running some

1129
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:21.239
business errands and came back and he
came rushing out to meet me and he

1130
01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:26.399
said the federal marshals were just here. I said what I said, Yeah,

1131
01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:28.920
they came up and they said they
were going to serve me with charges.

1132
01:54:29.640 --> 01:54:32.039
Well he counted them with the jurisdictional
issue, which he is probably the

1133
01:54:32.079 --> 01:54:35.560
expert on, or was the expert
on, and is on the website.

1134
01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:43.520
Because then they started they, as
in federal government, started pulling goofy stuff.

1135
01:54:43.920 --> 01:54:47.840
Agent filler Up was an FBI agent
out of Pine Top Lakeside. Agent

1136
01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:50.760
filler Ups showed up one day,
this is just a couple of weeks after

1137
01:54:51.239 --> 01:54:57.560
the federal marshall initial visit. We
were out in the backyard barbecuing, which

1138
01:54:57.560 --> 01:55:00.359
we often did. He got out
of his bronco and said, oh,

1139
01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:04.680
I just want to talk like old
friends, and basically we told him we

1140
01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:08.119
knew he was full of shit,
and well, let me just hand you

1141
01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:13.960
this envelope and he's waving it now, and we were still barbecuing away and

1142
01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:15.640
he was still out the side of
his vehicle there and he goes, well,

1143
01:55:15.680 --> 01:55:18.399
I'm going to come on up,
and Bill told him point blank,

1144
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:23.000
do not come up here. You're
not welcome out talking to you. And

1145
01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:26.119
you go back and tell your bosses
that there's not going to be another waycover

1146
01:55:26.239 --> 01:55:29.760
Ruby Ridge in this country and this
time, you guys, and this is

1147
01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:33.399
his own words, you stepped on
your dick. And he got back in

1148
01:55:33.520 --> 01:55:38.039
and back down the hill. So
he only had about a year basically had

1149
01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:45.399
a timeline to bring Bill in on
these trumped up CAx evasion charges and bank

1150
01:55:45.479 --> 01:55:51.119
fraud. We did have a meeting
with Congressman and his staff. He brought

1151
01:55:51.159 --> 01:55:57.439
his entire staff up to one of
our backyard little barbecue things and we knew

1152
01:55:57.479 --> 01:56:00.960
they were coming up, but we
had to cook anyway. They sat and

1153
01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:04.039
talked to us for quite a while, but they weren't willing to help.

1154
01:56:04.560 --> 01:56:08.520
And we were, like I say, always wanting a peaceful ends of this

1155
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:14.279
and answer to our jurisdictional questions and
to alleviate this problem. Another thing we

1156
01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:19.359
did was contacted any bank you'd ever
dealt with car loans banks, house loans,

1157
01:56:19.359 --> 01:56:24.920
proper loans, anything. Oh no, we were glowing. Customer paid

1158
01:56:24.920 --> 01:56:30.800
off early, never late, no
fraud in existence. So essentially, when

1159
01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:35.520
the year came up that filler Up
was CAUSI given as a deadline and nothing

1160
01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:41.520
had taken place. He was moved
on Agent filler Up to who knows where,

1161
01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:47.520
maybe the real Siberia, and things
seemed to calm down a little bit

1162
01:56:51.359 --> 01:56:57.119
and we were hoping that maybe it
would just kind of go away. Unfortunately,

1163
01:56:57.239 --> 01:57:02.359
things did not calm down agent Pillerup's
departure, more agents were assigned to

1164
01:57:02.399 --> 01:57:06.520
watch Cooper, and Bill was eventually
placed in what was known in the nineties

1165
01:57:06.640 --> 01:57:14.560
as Filegate, where President Clinton ordered
unconstitutional investigations into a number of individuals that

1166
01:57:14.640 --> 01:57:18.840
were deemed a threat. The heat
escalated to the point where Bill felt it

1167
01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:24.079
was necessary to protect his wife and
children by placing them in hiding for their

1168
01:57:24.119 --> 01:57:29.520
own safety. It was now Bill
and Doyle fighting the federal government on what

1169
01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:39.720
seemed to be phantom charges towards maybe
the last eight months or so of his

1170
01:57:39.880 --> 01:57:45.079
life. Because of events happening around
the world and in culminating in ninety eleven.

1171
01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:53.640
As far as world type events,
Bill really turned the heat up on

1172
01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:59.760
the people that would see this country's
demise on his broadcast and on his website.

1173
01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:03.880
And at that point you could a
person could tell if they had watched

1174
01:58:05.359 --> 01:58:10.439
the happenings and knew the facts,
not just the craft that was put in

1175
01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:14.800
a paper here and there about Bill
or the situation here, and had done

1176
01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:18.000
their research. It now wasn't a
matter of if, but when for Bill's

1177
01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:23.279
demise. In August of two thousand
and one, a local doctor by the

1178
01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:28.279
name of Scott Hamlin had reported to
local eager police that he had been harassed

1179
01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:31.600
while parked on Bill's hill by a
man who followed him, pulled out a

1180
01:58:31.640 --> 01:58:35.880
gun and threatened him in front of
his wife and kids. Even though it

1181
01:58:35.880 --> 01:58:40.760
could not be proven that it was
Bill, law enforcement now had a reason

1182
01:58:40.960 --> 01:58:45.920
for serving a warrant for his arrest. Doctor Hamlin had been going up and

1183
01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:53.359
playing real petty little games at night
up right next to Bill's property. This

1184
01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:57.119
particular night, he had his family
up there, and they claimed they were

1185
01:58:57.159 --> 01:59:01.000
just up there to watch the lightning
storms with the The problem was doctor Hammeruld

1186
01:59:01.039 --> 01:59:08.359
really egged people on. He's a
real weasel, and Bill had enough of

1187
01:59:08.439 --> 01:59:11.520
it and ordered him off the whole
area. Just get out of here.

1188
01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:15.079
I'm calling the cops now. If
Bill wanted to do harm to him,

1189
01:59:15.079 --> 01:59:23.319
he would not call the cops.
Obviously. Bill told me about this the

1190
01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:28.479
next day, and that was pretty
much all that was of it. The

1191
01:59:28.560 --> 01:59:31.720
first warrant was served on September eleventh
of two thousand and one, but was

1192
01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:36.079
postponed. It would not be until
November of two thousand and one when the

1193
01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:42.720
police would finally make an attempt to
raid Cooper. Cooper's broadcasts at this time

1194
01:59:43.239 --> 01:59:46.880
had already been looking into the federal
government's compliance in the events of nine to

1195
01:59:46.880 --> 01:59:54.560
eleven. One of the things that
makes everybody wonder why Bill was. Bill's

1196
01:59:54.560 --> 01:59:58.199
life was snuffed out in two thousand
and one was because in June of that

1197
01:59:58.279 --> 02:00:02.119
year, Amma bin Laden, who
was a relative unknown at that time,

1198
02:00:02.159 --> 02:00:05.680
Bill had been following the news and
found a lot of curiosities and went on

1199
02:00:05.680 --> 02:00:10.319
the air predicting that there would be
a major attack in the United States and

1200
02:00:10.359 --> 02:00:14.359
that it would be blamed on Issama
bin Laden. But he was literally the

1201
02:00:14.680 --> 02:00:19.359
scapegoat that was being used, not
truly behind the attacks. So that I

1202
02:00:19.359 --> 02:00:23.239
mean, just a few months before
the events of September eleventh, and then,

1203
02:00:23.239 --> 02:00:29.880
of course, Bill's life cut short
shortly thereafter. Supposedly, a CNN

1204
02:00:30.119 --> 02:00:40.119
reporter found Osama bin Laden, took
a television camera crew with him, went

1205
02:00:40.239 --> 02:00:47.680
into Osama bin Ladden's higheout, interviewed
him and his top leadership, and he

1206
02:00:47.720 --> 02:00:53.399
came out and told everybody within three
weeks, so Sama bin Laden is going

1207
02:00:53.439 --> 02:00:58.880
to attack in the United States and
Israel. Now don't you think that's kind

1208
02:00:58.880 --> 02:01:05.880
of strange, folks. You see, because the largest intelligence apparatus in the

1209
02:01:05.920 --> 02:01:11.920
world, with the biggest budget in
the history of the world, has been

1210
02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:18.079
looking for Osama bin Laden for years
and years and years and can't find him.

1211
02:01:18.159 --> 02:01:26.000
Some dufis jerk off reporter with our
camera crew falses right into his hideout

1212
02:01:26.079 --> 02:01:31.720
and interviews and I'm telling you be
prepared for a major attack, but it

1213
02:01:31.720 --> 02:01:38.760
won't be Osama bin Laden. It
will be those behind the New World Order.

1214
02:01:39.600 --> 02:01:43.880
I wonder what Osama bin Laden's targets
are supposed to be. And if

1215
02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:46.319
they don't, you know, if
this doesn't materialize the next two or three

1216
02:01:46.359 --> 02:01:54.359
weeks, it will eventually materialize because
they haven't succeeded in getting the guns out

1217
02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:58.359
of the hands of the American people, nor have they succeeded in taking our

1218
02:01:58.399 --> 02:02:01.760
freedoms away. And so I tell
you with a certainty, they must do

1219
02:02:01.920 --> 02:02:11.319
something terrible in order to stop this
backlash and regain the sympathy of the mass

1220
02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:58.319
herds of people out there. They'll
heard the commotion out here, just the

1221
02:02:58.399 --> 02:03:00.680
ruckus because the noise that comes up
the road being so rough and stuff.

1222
02:03:01.720 --> 02:03:08.680
He assumed. I guess that it
was typical high school partiers because they leave

1223
02:03:08.720 --> 02:03:12.079
the trash and stuff out, and
the local property owners all around us had

1224
02:03:12.079 --> 02:03:15.079
come to us and asked us to
run them off because they were destroying gates

1225
02:03:15.079 --> 02:03:21.840
and fences. He came out,
got in his truck. His truck was

1226
02:03:21.840 --> 02:03:26.880
always parked right out in front of
the house there, right past the driveway.

1227
02:03:27.359 --> 02:03:30.000
He would park just in front of
the law and always normally face that

1228
02:03:30.079 --> 02:03:34.159
direction, and he whipped around the
cul de sac. I would have to

1229
02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:39.880
assume, because that's what always took
place. And he then proceeded down this

1230
02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:43.760
cul de sac here, which is
a clearview circle drive. He's ninety six

1231
02:03:43.800 --> 02:03:47.960
clearview circle drive that's on the county
register. He came down here, and

1232
02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:53.800
then at that point he came down
to go to this other end of the

1233
02:03:53.960 --> 02:03:57.479
of the street, which is right
down there. You can see the sign

1234
02:03:57.520 --> 02:04:00.600
and the gate. Okay, that's
where they parked. And that was real

1235
02:04:00.640 --> 02:04:04.159
common for the high school children and
people making noise and throwing trash around and

1236
02:04:04.159 --> 02:04:08.680
stuff to do. They would park
down there. That particular owner owns the

1237
02:04:08.680 --> 02:04:12.680
rest of the forty acres down there, and he was particularly perturbed because they

1238
02:04:12.680 --> 02:04:41.600
would vandalize his fences and cattle troughs. They'll proceeded up this road to this

1239
02:04:41.680 --> 02:04:45.039
cul de sac here where the truck
was parked. It was unmarked. No

1240
02:04:45.079 --> 02:04:47.800
one was in uniforms. They did
not identify themselves. That was it.

1241
02:04:47.920 --> 02:04:53.319
They had said that in their briefings. The very next day they were parked

1242
02:04:53.359 --> 02:04:57.560
here. They intentionally had a vehicle
with an incredibly loud stereous system and they

1243
02:04:57.560 --> 02:05:01.880
made a lot of noise themselves and
hoot and holler. Bill came down and

1244
02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:08.359
told them this is based on the
law enforcement people that told me this that

1245
02:05:08.399 --> 02:05:12.880
were involved that night. Bill told
them if they didn't leave, he was

1246
02:05:12.880 --> 02:05:17.239
calling the police, and they shunned
him on. So he then turned around

1247
02:05:17.319 --> 02:05:24.840
to go back to his home up
there and call the police now at that

1248
02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:28.520
point they were here, and he
just basically turned right there, just out

1249
02:05:28.560 --> 02:05:31.640
on this lot a little bit and
went on back right here out of this

1250
02:05:31.720 --> 02:05:38.520
juniper was the spot. I was
told by law enforcement officials that the first

1251
02:05:38.680 --> 02:05:43.960
deputy came out right at Bill's truck
because he was cruising along slow, watching

1252
02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:46.399
them more than likely in his rearview
mirror, me knowing him very well,

1253
02:05:47.760 --> 02:05:51.119
to make sure they didn't follow him
back over there. He came out and

1254
02:05:51.159 --> 02:05:55.119
this is the point where Bill knocked
him off surely with his arm, not

1255
02:05:55.239 --> 02:06:00.800
ran over anything. That guy basically
just land on his butt because Bill hit

1256
02:06:00.840 --> 02:06:03.439
it, hit the gas so he
had He made this little curve here,

1257
02:06:03.920 --> 02:06:09.399
and this is where he stopped at
this point, according to law enforcement officials

1258
02:06:10.199 --> 02:06:15.319
from their briefing and then plus people
on site. Right then when he stopped,

1259
02:06:16.439 --> 02:06:20.640
one more person approached the vehicle but
not running, and that's when he

1260
02:06:20.720 --> 02:06:26.720
did the open hands thing and a
sign of you know, like surrender whatever.

1261
02:06:41.159 --> 02:06:44.640
Here's where he hit up on the
bank, just trying to get avoid

1262
02:06:45.399 --> 02:06:49.640
the vehicle that then came shooting up
here full bore, full speed, came

1263
02:06:49.720 --> 02:06:56.079
ripping up the hill. So obviously
that people at the end, had communications

1264
02:06:56.079 --> 02:06:59.880
with people down there on the road, must have verified the bill to turn

1265
02:07:00.039 --> 02:07:03.520
around coming back to his house.
So they came zooming up here in a

1266
02:07:03.600 --> 02:07:08.359
vehicle. He's avoiding them. He
comes up on this bank. It was

1267
02:07:08.560 --> 02:07:14.239
testified as that by the law enforcement
reports as well as the evidence on his

1268
02:07:14.399 --> 02:07:17.199
vehicle that that is what happened.
The exhaust system was tore off the bottom.

1269
02:07:18.279 --> 02:07:25.880
He then proceeded right there past the
small elms and the driveway to the

1270
02:07:25.920 --> 02:07:43.239
front of his yard. So it's
a little interesting, it says Cooper turned

1271
02:07:43.279 --> 02:07:47.000
and fled when the deputies identified themselves. He opened fire with a handgun as

1272
02:07:47.039 --> 02:07:50.359
two deputies closed in, wounding an
officer in the head. You're going to

1273
02:07:50.439 --> 02:07:55.399
see you in a minute here.
How that's not even possible, and it's

1274
02:07:55.640 --> 02:08:01.319
more than likely that these morons shot
one of their own office. They had

1275
02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:09.920
blamed it on Cooper, who can't
say otherwise because they killed him. I

1276
02:08:09.079 --> 02:08:15.039
was told by the law enforcement officials
that were on site and ones that had

1277
02:08:15.079 --> 02:08:18.560
to come up afterwards and get a
briefing, so they knew what went on

1278
02:08:18.760 --> 02:08:22.039
roughly, because public was obviously going
to be coming to try to come up

1279
02:08:22.079 --> 02:08:26.600
here and news crews and all whatnot. They had put out that Bill is

1280
02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:31.479
not to be let to that house, let back in that house alive.

1281
02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:35.840
It was premeditated, it was put
Bill will not be allowed back in alive.

1282
02:08:45.000 --> 02:08:48.119
Right here at Bill's home is where
he pulled up his front of this

1283
02:08:48.239 --> 02:08:52.439
vehicle would be towards me h.
The other vehicle was parked with his the

1284
02:08:52.479 --> 02:08:56.720
front towards the other end of the
street. Bill ran around the back of

1285
02:08:56.760 --> 02:09:01.880
his vehicle, which would be towards
the driveway. He then proceeded across his

1286
02:09:01.000 --> 02:09:05.560
yard. This is when the shooting
began. According to their reports, the

1287
02:09:05.640 --> 02:09:09.680
vehicle that was parked here, besides
his truck, which is pointed that way,

1288
02:09:11.239 --> 02:09:13.760
he had bought for Jessica, his
daughter, and she didn't want it,

1289
02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:18.039
so it was just sitting here.
It was a really nice car too.

1290
02:09:18.199 --> 02:09:22.960
And I just need to interject here
as well. Jessica was his long

1291
02:09:22.000 --> 02:09:28.079
lost daughter from a previous marriage,
older than his daughters that he sent away.

1292
02:09:28.079 --> 02:09:31.880
In case anybody doesn't understand that part
of it. It wasn't for Dorothy,

1293
02:09:33.000 --> 02:09:35.560
which he called Pooh, and it
wasn't for Alison, who was really

1294
02:09:35.600 --> 02:09:39.640
little. They were all him and
you know, he had sent all of

1295
02:09:39.640 --> 02:09:43.000
his girls, his two daughters and
his wife out of the country so that

1296
02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:50.840
they because they were the mother was
also on the the documents as being somebody

1297
02:09:50.840 --> 02:09:52.920
who was wanted, so he got
them out of there so they didn't split

1298
02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:58.920
with the family and still the kids. But Jessica was there at the house,

1299
02:10:00.239 --> 02:10:03.479
she actually visited. All of a
sudden, she finds her father out

1300
02:10:03.479 --> 02:10:07.239
of nowhere. Maybe that part was
all organic. But then there was also

1301
02:10:07.760 --> 02:10:16.560
a broadcast where Bill's really infuriated.
He's very upset because apparently agents had approached

1302
02:10:16.560 --> 02:10:22.560
her and started harassing her to get
information on him. And when you hear

1303
02:10:22.680 --> 02:10:28.199
what they knew about where he had
certain items that dispense led. No one

1304
02:10:28.199 --> 02:10:31.760
else would have been able to tell
them that except for her, even though

1305
02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:35.960
he claims that she didn't tell them
anything and tell them the thicket, so

1306
02:10:35.000 --> 02:10:39.000
they knew the layout, and that's
why one of the reasons potentially that they

1307
02:10:39.039 --> 02:10:41.199
didn't want him to go back into
the house. I mean, he could

1308
02:10:41.239 --> 02:10:45.159
radio for help. That would probably
be another thing they didn't want to do

1309
02:10:45.199 --> 02:10:50.239
because they wanted to murder the guy. But also they misidentified something in the

1310
02:10:50.279 --> 02:10:54.760
house by the door as being something
it wasn't kind of like what they did

1311
02:10:54.760 --> 02:11:03.000
with Wago, but you'll hear it
in a second. Sheriff Goldsmith was ran

1312
02:11:03.039 --> 02:11:07.680
around the back of it, which
would be towards me, and got on

1313
02:11:07.760 --> 02:11:13.680
this street side to use the vehicle
as protection. That point Bill is approximately

1314
02:11:13.760 --> 02:11:16.479
halfway in the yard and still running
with his back towards him. They claim

1315
02:11:16.520 --> 02:11:22.319
at that point he began shooting,
which was with his right arm just thrown

1316
02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:28.319
backward haphazardly pulling the trigger of a
thirty eighth. And he had one missing

1317
02:11:28.439 --> 02:11:37.239
leg running quote unquote, running hobbling, He had bad knees, he was

1318
02:11:37.279 --> 02:11:43.920
an old man fifty six didn't pose
a threat to a bunch of fit officers

1319
02:11:43.039 --> 02:11:50.239
with the guns drawn. And again
he was he had a prosthetic, So

1320
02:11:50.720 --> 02:11:54.079
I mean, it wasn't like one
of this fancy ones that you see these

1321
02:11:54.159 --> 02:12:00.359
days. Snub No, Smith and
Wesson. From where we're standing would be

1322
02:12:00.439 --> 02:12:07.520
essentially the angle that Goldsmith would have
been standing, but closer Marinas would have

1323
02:12:07.520 --> 02:12:11.039
been by the fifty eight Chevy,
which would be equivalent to that truck,

1324
02:12:11.079 --> 02:12:16.520
but backed up all the way to
the wall. Next to that in post

1325
02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:22.640
of the front porch, Bill was
supposed they shooting backwards like this, which

1326
02:12:22.680 --> 02:12:28.920
would be back towards the street.
In reality that direction when he at Marina's,

1327
02:12:30.239 --> 02:12:35.439
that angle does not work at all. Plus, the bullet hole in

1328
02:12:35.479 --> 02:12:39.359
the glass of the fifty eight Chevy
indicates a bullet path of approximately this direction

1329
02:12:41.199 --> 02:12:46.119
through the drivers roll down window and
out the passenger corner of the windshield,

1330
02:12:46.680 --> 02:12:50.760
indicating clearly it went towards the dome
in town, which is the high school

1331
02:12:52.119 --> 02:12:58.000
field for playing during the winter.
At that point, Goldsmith opened fire,

1332
02:13:00.479 --> 02:13:05.520
hitting Bill several times. Bill fell
down right where the porch would start and

1333
02:13:05.560 --> 02:13:09.600
the dirt would meet the concrete sidewalk
next to the planner. You can just

1334
02:13:09.640 --> 02:13:13.439
slightly see raised on this side favoring
me from the front door. That's where

1335
02:13:13.479 --> 02:13:20.399
he fell. And according to them, they've quit shooting and he was dead.

1336
02:13:24.359 --> 02:13:26.840
Okay, I still contend that they
shot their own person and blended on

1337
02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:31.520
Bill. And it should be noted
that the one and only time that he

1338
02:13:31.680 --> 02:13:39.359
was on with he was on the
broadcast of what do you call it?

1339
02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:46.159
Kipshit? What's his name? Alex
Jones? There we go. There was

1340
02:13:46.199 --> 02:13:50.760
a Alex Jones light about this interview
several times. It still does that Cooper

1341
02:13:50.760 --> 02:13:52.960
had to be cut off and that
he was drunk and swearing all this sort

1342
02:13:54.000 --> 02:13:56.079
of stuff. Oh nonsense, it's
very cordial. I've played it, I've

1343
02:13:56.079 --> 02:14:01.119
showed it. But he does say
he's gonna continue to do what he does

1344
02:14:01.199 --> 02:14:09.720
and you know, disseminate the truth
to all his listeners until he shot dead

1345
02:14:09.760 --> 02:14:13.039
on his doorstep. And now that
they're telling us that he was shot dead

1346
02:14:13.079 --> 02:14:20.399
on his doorstep, I find that
a little coincidental. And he had refused

1347
02:14:20.279 --> 02:14:24.279
to ever go back on Alex Jones
after he realized what a sensational bullshit artist

1348
02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:30.600
he was his words, and that
he was doing nothing to help but rather

1349
02:14:30.720 --> 02:14:37.800
hinder and hurt the truth patriotism and
militias everywhere. That's what he said that

1350
02:14:37.880 --> 02:14:46.239
Alex Jones was doing with his his
sensationalism. And so yeah, he called

1351
02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:50.319
Alex Jones out to be a liar
multiple times towards the end the last few

1352
02:14:50.319 --> 02:14:56.680
months of his life. So Alex
Jones had reason to be pissed. I

1353
02:14:56.720 --> 02:15:01.640
mean, Alex Jones more than likely
had his buddies over in what he called

1354
02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:07.960
Austin's equivalent of Silicon Valley attack his
websites. One time that's almost like not

1355
02:15:09.039 --> 02:15:13.079
even a question. That's pretty much
confirmed. So there was hostilities between the

1356
02:15:13.119 --> 02:15:24.279
two and whoever Alex Jones really operates
for might have similar details on that Apache

1357
02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:28.119
County sheriffs deputy. He is in
the hospital after being shot in the head

1358
02:15:28.119 --> 02:15:31.680
by a so called militia member.
Now what we know is that that militia

1359
02:15:31.760 --> 02:15:35.239
member is dead. Our Garry Harper
has the very latest on what's going on

1360
02:15:35.319 --> 02:15:39.960
with that story. Gary Marty Scott
has all happened in a little town called

1361
02:15:39.159 --> 02:15:43.760
Eager, Arizona, which is just
on the eastern side of the state of

1362
02:15:43.760 --> 02:15:46.800
Arizona as almost on the border of
New Mexico. This is what we know

1363
02:15:46.920 --> 02:15:50.159
so far. Sheriff Stephies, we
understand we're trying to serve some type of

1364
02:15:50.119 --> 02:15:54.560
of our rest wore on a man
by the name of William Cooper. He's

1365
02:15:54.560 --> 02:15:58.880
also known as Bill Cooper. He
reportedly has been known to be hospital for

1366
02:15:58.479 --> 02:16:05.239
lawforce. So sheriff deputies apparently disguised
himself as a bunch of Rowley teenagers in

1367
02:16:05.279 --> 02:16:09.319
the back of a pickup truck in
hopes of ruing Cooper out, and it

1368
02:16:09.399 --> 02:16:15.439
apparently works. However, when Cooper
realized what was happening. He reportedly pulled

1369
02:16:15.439 --> 02:16:18.399
a gun and shot a forty year
old deputy in the head. During the

1370
02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:22.680
gun by, Cooper himself was shot
and he was killed. Now, this

1371
02:16:22.720 --> 02:16:26.960
is what we know about Bill Cooper. Officials say he belongs to some kind

1372
02:16:26.000 --> 02:16:33.000
of militia movement and has published several
anti establishment articles. He has a website,

1373
02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:37.399
can understand, and on that website
he acknowledges that there is an arrest

1374
02:16:37.479 --> 02:16:41.639
war for him. But he writes, and we're quoting here, any attempt

1375
02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:46.959
by any federal government agent or anyone
else who executes the unlawful arrest warrants will

1376
02:16:46.000 --> 02:16:52.440
be met with armed resistance. Any
person who attempts to kidnap our children will

1377
02:16:52.479 --> 02:16:56.280
be shot upon discovery. And that
is apparently what happened. For why didn't

1378
02:16:56.280 --> 02:17:01.440
you do the same for your children? Fullier of this morning, sometime after

1379
02:17:01.559 --> 02:17:05.120
midnight, Cooper reportedly pulling a gun
and shooting a forty year old at Patton

1380
02:17:05.200 --> 02:17:09.600
County Sheriff depanty in the head.
That sheriff sheperty and we understand, has

1381
02:17:09.600 --> 02:17:11.559
been thrown to Phoenix, where he
did in a hospital. We are trying

1382
02:17:11.559 --> 02:17:15.479
to get this condition right now.
We do not know exactly what this condition

1383
02:17:15.639 --> 02:17:18.040
is. And we understand that the
militia member in this case, Phil Cooper,

1384
02:17:18.520 --> 02:17:22.799
was shot to death. We do
have a crew en route to Eager,

1385
02:17:22.840 --> 02:17:26.360
Arizona, and we'll have a lot
more coming up on tonight's news.

1386
02:17:24.520 --> 02:17:31.920
To right, this was an extremely
serious event, not just because Bill had

1387
02:17:31.959 --> 02:17:35.799
been shot, but what precipitated this? How did this happen? Was this?

1388
02:17:37.399 --> 02:17:39.680
No one knew the answer. So
immediately we got on the internet and

1389
02:17:39.680 --> 02:17:45.799
we started searching, downloading news articles
from Arizona trying to find out. I

1390
02:17:45.799 --> 02:17:48.920
got on the phone, was calling
the hour of the time phone line,

1391
02:17:48.920 --> 02:17:50.360
which of course was busy most of
the time, and then I would leave

1392
02:17:50.360 --> 02:17:54.360
a message when I could please call
me back, not understanding all of the

1393
02:17:54.440 --> 02:17:58.920
chaos that Doyle was involved with that
day as well, can just the pay

1394
02:18:00.319 --> 02:18:05.120
as Bill would say. In fact, within the first sentence of the first

1395
02:18:05.280 --> 02:18:11.520
article that was written about this in
the Arizona Republican, the word militia appears,

1396
02:18:13.360 --> 02:18:22.840
the name Timothy McVeigh appears. This
kind of irresponsible journalism. Unfortunately,

1397
02:18:24.479 --> 02:18:28.600
it was something that Bill had to
fight off, or as he would say,

1398
02:18:28.680 --> 02:18:35.799
years and years and years and years
and years, Bill was not a

1399
02:18:35.840 --> 02:18:41.600
member of a militia, but he
believed very strongly in the same amendment,

1400
02:18:41.520 --> 02:18:46.360
and he did a program on how
to perform your own militia and do it

1401
02:18:46.440 --> 02:18:52.159
legally. After Bill was killed,
virtually every newspaper article that you would see

1402
02:18:52.159 --> 02:18:58.639
on Bill, or any report on
television or on radio, I've always mentioned

1403
02:18:58.680 --> 02:19:03.479
Timothy McVeigh and the Timothy T mcvah
and William Cooper were connected, and Bill

1404
02:19:03.719 --> 02:19:11.680
was portrayed as an extreme right wing
lunatic that was encouraging the activities of Timothy

1405
02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:16.159
McVeigh, while while in fact Timothy
McVeigh did listen to William Cooper and in

1406
02:19:16.159 --> 02:19:22.399
fact visited him, came up to
Bill's hill to visit him. Bill told

1407
02:19:22.479 --> 02:19:26.799
him to get lost. Michael Bresha, who is John Doe number two,

1408
02:19:26.920 --> 02:19:31.600
the spitting image of the drawings that
they put out, wearing the exact same

1409
02:19:31.680 --> 02:19:37.280
cap that was worn by the man
in the drawings that they put out with

1410
02:19:37.360 --> 02:19:41.280
the same tattoo on his left arm, stood in front of me for ten

1411
02:19:41.360 --> 02:19:48.760
minutes and talked to me in the
company of Timothy McVeigh, and tim McVay

1412
02:19:48.920 --> 02:19:52.920
was not the leader. Tim McVay
probably didn't say more than twenty five or

1413
02:19:52.959 --> 02:19:58.120
thirty words during the entire time.
Michael Bresher did all of the talking.

1414
02:20:00.120 --> 02:20:05.280
Last thing he said before they left
in their green Mercury Marquee station wagon with

1415
02:20:05.319 --> 02:20:16.639
a cute yellow interior, was watch
Oklahoma City. If anyone was in charge

1416
02:20:16.120 --> 02:20:20.520
at least on that day, it
was Michael Bresha John No. Number two,

1417
02:20:20.680 --> 02:20:28.840
not ever Timothy McVeigh. They told
us during that conversation that they were

1418
02:20:30.159 --> 02:20:35.600
setting out on a mission to make
things better in this country, and that

1419
02:20:35.680 --> 02:20:39.680
they had the approval of the United
States Army, who had implanted them with

1420
02:20:39.840 --> 02:20:43.719
computer chips, had given them their
blessings, and knew exactly where they were

1421
02:20:43.760 --> 02:20:50.479
and what they were doing. All
the time. Bill was left to lie

1422
02:20:50.559 --> 02:20:58.319
there in the front yard. Non
lethal devices are the supposed norm in the

1423
02:20:58.360 --> 02:21:05.319
country, and this state is supposedly
stressed and was verified in newspaper articles afterwards

1424
02:21:05.440 --> 02:21:09.360
not even pertained to Bill's case,
just informational articles out of Arizona Republic.

1425
02:21:11.959 --> 02:21:16.399
No such device was used, nat
stun guns anything. All the fancy foams

1426
02:21:16.479 --> 02:21:26.799
and rubber bullets, none of that. The Capache County coroner to declare Bill

1427
02:21:26.920 --> 02:21:31.959
dead and deny him obviously medical treatment
if he's dead. Happened to be doctor

1428
02:21:31.959 --> 02:21:41.079
Scott Hamlin. Did you catch that? The same guy who was causing trouble

1429
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:45.959
for him in the weeks before it, claiming that Bill had pulled a gun

1430
02:21:45.959 --> 02:21:48.639
out on him. He was the
coroner whatever you want to call him,

1431
02:21:48.920 --> 02:21:56.280
that announced Bill dead. No conflict
of interest there. He was not called

1432
02:21:56.399 --> 02:21:58.920
theoretically because he'd be a conflict interest, which he would be. But I

1433
02:22:00.079 --> 02:22:03.120
can't believe they use such wise judgment
now all of a sudden, so Navajo

1434
02:22:03.159 --> 02:22:07.600
County had to be called to clear
the next county over and obviously woken up

1435
02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:13.639
all this stuff. So there's a
huge time frame here. But Bill received

1436
02:22:13.639 --> 02:22:18.760
no medical treatment. The sheriff's deputies
took it in their own hands, and

1437
02:22:18.799 --> 02:22:22.559
the paramedics that he did not need
to be treated. He was just gone

1438
02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:26.920
for good, and that's all there
was to it. DPS is wrapping up

1439
02:22:26.959 --> 02:22:31.120
there all day long sight investigation.
Bill's body has been out there all day,

1440
02:22:31.719 --> 02:22:37.079
so who knows how it was tampered
with cameras nobody was allowed up there.

1441
02:22:37.079 --> 02:22:39.440
You couldn't get within it to get
camera views. In the helicontrovers shunned

1442
02:22:39.440 --> 02:22:43.639
off so they couldn't get views of
the body, so there's no way to

1443
02:22:43.639 --> 02:22:48.760
ever tell if it was moved a
hundred times, maybe before the ambulance picked

1444
02:22:48.760 --> 02:23:20.879
it up. It was then taken
Tucson Forensics Lamp for an autopsy. Okay,

1445
02:23:20.920 --> 02:23:24.040
it says here. Bill's body was
lying by the doorstep of his house

1446
02:23:24.120 --> 02:23:30.479
for approximately fifteen hours while officials waited
for a robot to be sent up from

1447
02:23:30.639 --> 02:23:37.200
Phoenix in order to evaluate the house
and property for exclusives. Local eager informants

1448
02:23:37.760 --> 02:23:43.200
had testified to law officials that Cooper
kept a fully automatic AK forty seven machine

1449
02:23:43.200 --> 02:23:48.840
gun by his door. I think
Jessica said that not the people. They

1450
02:23:48.879 --> 02:24:07.559
claimed that there were no explosives or
booby traps found in the house or on

1451
02:24:07.600 --> 02:24:13.479
the property. They alleged fully automatic
AK forty seven quote unquote by the door

1452
02:24:13.639 --> 02:24:16.319
turned out to be a Browning three
Hot six hunting rifle with a scope,

1453
02:24:18.280 --> 02:24:35.479
most likely bolt action. Those of
you who are smart enough to know what

1454
02:24:35.600 --> 02:24:41.559
is transpiring here, know that these
are historic broadcasts, and by making these

1455
02:24:41.600 --> 02:25:18.040
broadcasts, I have sealed my fate. I believe this. I found this

1456
02:25:18.079 --> 02:25:22.399
to be true. If you're not
walking on the razor blade, you're really

1457
02:25:22.440 --> 02:25:26.840
living in a kind of death existence, you have to have that danger facing

1458
02:25:26.879 --> 02:25:31.200
you that if I slip, I'm
dead. That's what makes you live,

1459
02:25:33.600 --> 02:25:37.360
That's what gives you life, That's
what gives you purpose. And I sincerely

1460
02:25:37.399 --> 02:25:41.760
believe that any man or woman who
does not have principles for which they're ready

1461
02:25:41.760 --> 02:25:46.120
and willing to die for at any
given moment that they're called upon to do

1462
02:25:46.239 --> 02:25:50.440
that is already dead and are of
no use or consequence to themselves or anyone

1463
02:25:50.440 --> 02:25:56.319
else, and will be unhappy throughout
their life for that very reason and that

1464
02:25:56.440 --> 02:26:13.639
very reason alone. Okay, this
is main street of Springervale. The town

1465
02:26:13.719 --> 02:26:20.760
is connected to Eager and this is
also the highway coming into Springervale from Saint

1466
02:26:20.879 --> 02:26:24.479
John's. This is our research center
that we opened up after Bell's death.

1467
02:26:24.399 --> 02:26:30.319
We had to close it due to
financial constraints. Recently, you're seeing the

1468
02:26:30.399 --> 02:26:37.159
last of it. What this room
contained was the core research books and articles.

1469
02:26:39.360 --> 02:26:45.719
Along every wall that you see seven
shelves high from literally from the floor

1470
02:26:46.399 --> 02:26:50.440
to up high with solid books.
We categorized them and alphabetized them by c

1471
02:26:50.959 --> 02:26:54.719
by category, and then alphabetized them
in each category so it's easy to look

1472
02:26:54.799 --> 02:27:00.600
up down the middle here we're all
desk and with all the outlet we had

1473
02:27:00.600 --> 02:27:05.239
the ability that people come in and
use each format of digital army excuse me,

1474
02:27:05.280 --> 02:27:09.840
of media for instance, Beta,
VHS, high eight whatever with a

1475
02:27:09.920 --> 02:27:13.600
monitor, and they could use books. And I made arranged with the copy

1476
02:27:13.680 --> 02:27:18.280
shop down the street and they would
make copies for us at a reduced rate.

1477
02:27:18.479 --> 02:27:22.520
That way, the books never left
the building. This whole front portion

1478
02:27:22.680 --> 02:27:31.040
from this here with solid file cabinets
completely packed full, every single drawer of

1479
02:27:31.079 --> 02:27:39.280
the big file cabinets of individual pieces
of research material, rare transcripts, any

1480
02:27:39.319 --> 02:27:41.799
of that stuff. All this we
still possess. I just have it in

1481
02:27:41.879 --> 02:27:46.920
safe storage. Now this was the
the audio and video portions. What's your

1482
02:27:46.920 --> 02:27:54.200
step back here? Just the remnants
of cable. All my masters are just

1483
02:27:54.239 --> 02:27:56.879
down here on the floor. Bills
are all preserved in a safe place.

1484
02:27:58.000 --> 02:28:03.360
Those are just the masters of all
my broadcasts. And in here was audio

1485
02:28:03.719 --> 02:28:07.159
video set up and all our duplication
order fulfillment. And here is the famous

1486
02:28:07.200 --> 02:28:11.719
microphone that Bill loved so much and
talked about on the air, the RCA

1487
02:28:11.840 --> 02:28:18.040
tube Mike. Here. He really
liked this microphone a lot from when he

1488
02:28:18.079 --> 02:28:22.040
got it. That's all he used
on the broadcast, how old is it?

1489
02:28:22.760 --> 02:28:28.399
Over forties? This is one of
the his Vietnam service medals. Some

1490
02:28:28.440 --> 02:28:33.959
of his were just destroyed over the
years moving so he had put together this

1491
02:28:35.120 --> 02:28:39.920
batch. It's called women. We
all know what he means. That's that's

1492
02:28:39.959 --> 02:28:43.159
what happens to things that you care
about. It's called women. They do

1493
02:28:43.280 --> 02:28:48.639
that prior to his death because he
wanted to kind of make it an assimbilage

1494
02:28:48.639 --> 02:28:52.959
of the metals that were over there
at the time that people were earning for

1495
02:28:54.040 --> 02:29:01.520
the Quavette website. And this one's
the Republic of Vietnam's service medal is the

1496
02:29:01.600 --> 02:29:05.680
Commendation medal. And above them you
see the ribbon that you wear. This

1497
02:29:05.799 --> 02:29:11.399
is really for decorative purposes only in
his historical Really, you don't ever wear

1498
02:29:11.440 --> 02:29:15.399
these except for the when they're pinned
on you and you take them off.

1499
02:29:16.760 --> 02:29:24.040
Listener. Here is Naval service and
here is National Defense Service medal. These

1500
02:29:24.440 --> 02:29:26.159
some of these pieces down well,
all these pieces down here were some of

1501
02:29:26.200 --> 02:29:33.879
Bill's favorites that he had in his
work area on display. That was his

1502
02:29:35.680 --> 02:29:39.200
say No to the un Black he
got from the Lands in Michigan speech.

1503
02:29:39.600 --> 02:29:43.879
That tape will be familiar to many
audience because when I'm here, I'm just

1504
02:29:43.920 --> 02:29:46.440
Bill Cooper. I'm talking to you
from my heart. When I'm on the

1505
02:29:46.520 --> 02:29:50.680
radio, I am on a mission, and that mission is to slap people

1506
02:29:50.719 --> 02:29:54.120
upside the head and wake them up
and even make them hate me if that's

1507
02:29:54.120 --> 02:29:58.319
what it takes to get them to
go examine what I'm telling them to find

1508
02:29:58.360 --> 02:30:03.319
out that it's right. You see, I don't care how it's done as

1509
02:30:03.319 --> 02:30:07.799
long as they wake up. If
I have to be the bad guy that

1510
02:30:07.840 --> 02:30:09.799
they gonna hate for the rest of
their life, that's okay with me.

1511
02:30:09.520 --> 02:30:15.479
If I wake him up. And
Bill of Wrights from a very all old

1512
02:30:15.559 --> 02:30:20.079
print and they fix it to that
wood placard and gave that to him some

1513
02:30:20.159 --> 02:30:28.120
of his friends, the Saint casting
out Lucifer, and that was by the

1514
02:30:28.200 --> 02:30:35.040
kitchen. This is one of his
all time favorite records ever. Love is

1515
02:30:35.079 --> 02:30:43.559
a Gentle Thing. Here was a
here's a nice reproduction of the Declaration of

1516
02:30:43.639 --> 02:30:52.760
Independence the States of America. And
here's a leather embossed plaque that even and

1517
02:30:52.799 --> 02:31:01.520
I had gotten Bill for his birthday
back in nineteen ninety nine, two thousand

1518
02:31:01.840 --> 02:31:07.600
one or the other. It's the
prayer at Valley Forge from the famous painting

1519
02:31:07.680 --> 02:31:16.239
of George Washington praying asking for guidance
as this copper engraved plate and raised of

1520
02:31:16.760 --> 02:31:22.200
Jfkjohnfred Gerald Kennedy, the thirty fifth
President. This one of Bill's favorite pieces,

1521
02:31:22.280 --> 02:31:26.399
hung in the whole entryway of the
house. I don't know where he

1522
02:31:26.440 --> 02:31:28.479
even got this, but he really
liked it and made sure it was always

1523
02:31:28.559 --> 02:31:39.399
up wherever he moved. The story
of how I came upon this site is

1524
02:31:39.040 --> 02:31:45.040
a unique one. Tasked with having
to find a site and not much time,

1525
02:31:45.760 --> 02:31:48.159
I went to the city of Springerville, and this is one of the

1526
02:31:48.159 --> 02:31:52.840
few things that worked out smoothly following
his death, and at least with all

1527
02:31:52.879 --> 02:31:58.399
the arrangements I went down there.
The city personnel in Springerville knew my situation.

1528
02:32:00.040 --> 02:32:03.680
I was there. They gave me
the funeral plot on a handshake and

1529
02:32:03.760 --> 02:32:09.319
let me pay it off a month
later. And they even had the city

1530
02:32:09.440 --> 02:32:13.719
working crew with a filled crew that
would have to dig it come out after

1531
02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:16.959
hours that day when they could have
been home because they weren't getting paid to

1532
02:32:16.000 --> 02:32:22.440
meet me. It's an old cemetery, basically a very crude mapping system because

1533
02:32:22.440 --> 02:32:26.399
of the age of the Graves.
I met Tom, the city crew member,

1534
02:32:26.920 --> 02:32:30.840
right down there at the entryway,
and I parked. He was behind

1535
02:32:30.879 --> 02:32:33.719
me, and I got out the
vehicle, said hey, let's take a

1536
02:32:33.719 --> 02:32:35.920
look, and he goes, well, let's just start walking around and see

1537
02:32:35.920 --> 02:32:41.559
what you think. And I saw
this elm tree here and was drawn here

1538
02:32:41.600 --> 02:32:46.639
almost like magnetically. It was really
strange, and the hair on my neck

1539
02:32:46.680 --> 02:32:52.040
almost stood up the whole time.
And I walked with a purpose straight to

1540
02:32:52.120 --> 02:32:58.159
that tree, and then looked over
here and walked straight to here. Know

1541
02:32:58.360 --> 02:33:03.680
him on skip flow of space,
and I look out here, and it's

1542
02:33:03.680 --> 02:33:07.719
the exact view that Bill loved in
the after mornings, afternoons whenever, but

1543
02:33:07.799 --> 02:33:11.799
afternoons is favorite. It's the same
view we had from his back porch where

1544
02:33:11.799 --> 02:33:16.600
we would barbecue and sit and listen
to shortwave radio at night and watch the

1545
02:33:16.639 --> 02:33:20.879
sunset and snow and just beautifully loved
it. He talked about on the radio

1546
02:33:20.280 --> 02:33:24.520
often. So I'm standing here,
I'm looking at this and it's amazing.

1547
02:33:24.559 --> 02:33:31.680
I'm still getting this chill filling.
And I look over like this and there's

1548
02:33:31.680 --> 02:33:39.559
Bill's house perfectly in line, and
this is essentially the exact same elevation and

1549
02:33:39.120 --> 02:33:43.479
line of his back porch where he
always sat and enjoyed the view of this

1550
02:33:43.600 --> 02:33:48.319
valley, the round valley here.
And I said, well, what about

1551
02:33:48.319 --> 02:33:50.719
this spot here? And he says, oh, I think that's taken.

1552
02:33:50.200 --> 02:33:54.120
So he pulls out this map,
a lot of it hand drawn and added

1553
02:33:54.159 --> 02:33:58.440
to and all he goes, well, I'll be dang, there's two spots

1554
02:33:58.479 --> 02:34:01.399
open here. I thought they were
full, And I said, I want

1555
02:34:01.440 --> 02:34:07.680
this one, no matter what.
The gentleman Tommy uh circled the area with

1556
02:34:07.760 --> 02:34:11.319
cones and parked and parked a vehicle
here and notified the city crews that no

1557
02:34:11.399 --> 02:34:18.079
one is to get the spot because
it was for Bill. And that's pretty

1558
02:34:18.120 --> 02:34:35.280
much how it happened. Talk of
it is North Carolina, North Carolina,

1559
02:34:35.319 --> 02:34:48.319
incut down now, okay, now
we're getting one from Michigan. Also came

1560
02:34:48.319 --> 02:34:54.040
from Lisa Rock from Washington State.
Where's that one from? From? What?

1561
02:34:56.799 --> 02:35:03.079
Both hes? The tumbled flint from
Ohio flip Ridge. Actually no,

1562
02:35:03.239 --> 02:35:16.760
less, this is from Chicago,
Illinois practice already probably due to the light

1563
02:35:16.840 --> 02:35:22.479
in circumstances of research he was involved
in what he was exposing. I have

1564
02:35:22.520 --> 02:35:24.200
no doubt he is in a much
better place. I am going to mess

1565
02:35:24.239 --> 02:35:33.799
with this anymore. But he left
behind a huge hole in society and this

1566
02:35:33.840 --> 02:35:37.879
whole genre of research that cannot be
filled by anyone else, at least that

1567
02:35:37.920 --> 02:35:43.159
I've ever ran into in this field
or expect to run into. He's messed

1568
02:35:43.159 --> 02:35:48.760
by many, and he made his
fair share of enemies. Might sometimes that

1569
02:35:48.840 --> 02:35:52.239
happens if you're going to call her
bluff, especially in front of five or

1570
02:35:52.280 --> 02:35:56.559
ten thousand guests of the speaking engagement. Ideally, we hope the Hour of

1571
02:35:56.559 --> 02:36:00.879
the Time will continue forever, or
at least as long as Doyle and I

1572
02:36:00.920 --> 02:36:05.159
are around, which is going to
be a good long time. We'd like

1573
02:36:05.239 --> 02:36:07.719
to take the Hour of the Time
in the same direction Bill was always pointing

1574
02:36:07.719 --> 02:36:11.040
it. This is why I don't
like this guy. Don't want to deviate

1575
02:36:11.159 --> 02:36:15.000
too far from that. Granted,
we have to make the volts a little

1576
02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:18.280
bit more our own. Bill Cooper's
not around anymore, and we are constantly

1577
02:36:20.040 --> 02:36:22.760
receiving emails, both good and bad, some saying excellent job, guys.

1578
02:36:22.799 --> 02:36:28.520
Really, let me just say this
about this guy right here, when he

1579
02:36:28.559 --> 02:36:33.760
talks about his fond memories of the
Hour of the Time, and he's acting

1580
02:36:33.840 --> 02:36:37.440
like he's like a little kid listening
to to Bill right, and you know,

1581
02:36:37.639 --> 02:36:39.280
you know he's know something exciting is
going to happen when you hear that

1582
02:36:39.399 --> 02:36:45.440
music. First of all, the
first nine years almost it was until the

1583
02:36:45.600 --> 02:36:48.280
very last year, so he was
on since from ninety two to two thousand

1584
02:36:48.280 --> 02:36:50.840
and one, so it was total
nine years. So for the first eight

1585
02:36:50.920 --> 02:36:54.600
years you heard the siren and then
you heard a bunch of dogs barking.

1586
02:36:54.639 --> 02:36:58.639
There was no music. So this
guy's level of depth when it comes to

1587
02:36:58.719 --> 02:37:01.799
even knowing what show he's talking talking
about, was in the last eight or

1588
02:37:01.840 --> 02:37:05.959
ten months of the show of the
show being on. So that alone is

1589
02:37:07.000 --> 02:37:09.799
another reveal that this guy didn't even
just trying to make up something sentimental and

1590
02:37:09.840 --> 02:37:13.000
it was a load of shit.
I appreciate what you're doing. And some

1591
02:37:13.079 --> 02:37:16.520
of them say, you know,
Bill wouldn't have done it this way.

1592
02:37:16.120 --> 02:37:20.799
Well, unfortunately Bill's not around anymore
and he's not here yet to tell us

1593
02:37:20.799 --> 02:37:24.840
how he might have done things.
I think between Doyle and myself we have

1594
02:37:24.879 --> 02:37:28.840
a good understanding of what Bill would
have wanted us to do. Some of

1595
02:37:28.879 --> 02:37:37.760
it's in writing and those things we
are following to the tea and definitely the

1596
02:37:37.799 --> 02:37:43.000
pursuit of truth is key, and
the more knowledge you get, the closer

1597
02:37:43.040 --> 02:37:48.600
you get to that goal. I've
seen too much through my life happenings to

1598
02:37:48.799 --> 02:37:56.479
verify the problems and this whole one
world government scheme. They're definitely not backing

1599
02:37:56.520 --> 02:38:01.760
off. I've been privy to too
much knowledge and research materials to give it

1600
02:38:01.840 --> 02:38:05.680
up. Now. The naysayers out
there that say it can't be reverted back,

1601
02:38:05.799 --> 02:38:09.360
or all the choice to sit here
and wait for price to come because

1602
02:38:09.399 --> 02:38:13.639
redoomed or whatever, I don't agree
with because the same thing was told to

1603
02:38:13.680 --> 02:38:20.559
the founding fathers and framers, and
look what that small handful of men and

1604
02:38:20.719 --> 02:38:26.520
colonies did and the ripples it caused
around the world and forever in world history,

1605
02:38:26.559 --> 02:38:31.239
what it's going to have caused.
You know, they took on the

1606
02:38:31.760 --> 02:38:35.159
British Empire. The Son never sets
on the British Empire was the logo at

1607
02:38:35.200 --> 02:38:43.399
the time and the most powerful government
in pretty much world history to that point.

1608
02:38:43.479 --> 02:38:46.479
And they took it on a bunch
of people that knew that what was

1609
02:38:46.479 --> 02:38:52.120
going on was wrong and defeated it. And because of that, the Revolution,

1610
02:38:52.280 --> 02:38:56.520
the Decoration, Independence and the Constitution
and Bill of Rights, we completely

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rewrote the history of mankind for dead, and to see it squandered because of

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a few families and secret societies behind
the scenes pulling the strings of our fiat

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essentially Fiat government. Would be to
look back at all those men and women

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and children included everything that have died
preserving that heritage in this country and just

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calling it all a waste of time. Everybody's fought for it and died for

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it, or have been hurt one
way or the other, that would be

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a complete waste their lives. And
to throw it away directly myself with possession

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of Bill's archives and stuff, would
just be saying that Bill's life was meaningless.

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To just box it up, or
just to turn it off and say

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later, like it or not,
everything is changing. The result will be

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the most wonderful experience in the history
of man or the most horrible enslavement that

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you can imagine. Be active or
abdicate. The future is in your hands.

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William Cooper, October twenty fourth,
nineteen eighty nine. So what did

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we What path did we follow?
Do you understand what I'm telling you?

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That's it? We miss your Bill. I also did a broadcast on the

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zidieth birthday that would have it in
May four. You'll see it on Rumble.

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And I believe I played the documentary
on that day too, and I

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think I called it Ambush or the
Ambush