WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:07.679 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jakin Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:13.640 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services, ke Sure your most Prized possessions, 3 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:19.000 Katie CR two S, and iHeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody, 4 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:21.920 welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:26.280 Rivera. He's Jakins. Also got our guard Jason in Today. We're expecting 6 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.320 the big show and if you're expecting the President, doctor Robbins. Now at 7 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:33.920 three, we've been pushed back about fifteen minutes. Yeah, we push back 8 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:37.520 about fifteen minutes. We're still hoping to get him for the full half hour 9 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:42.920 that we were planning on, but it'll be a quarter after or right after 10 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:47.000 our first break, So hopefully you can stick around and uh, we'll ask 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.159 whatever. Well, I think we're all kind of in the same place because 12 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.159 what we want to know, right, everybody wants to know a lot of 13 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.840 stuff. I don't know how much of that we'll get, but we'll kind 14 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:58.280 of got an understand. You know where things are right now, run I'm 15 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.840 expecting, well what's your expect then we'll see what happened. Well, you 16 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.280 know, one things we want to talk about is that summit that they had 17 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.640 last weekend? What did they learn? Right? And what did they do 18 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:08.159 it? Why did they do it? And what did they learn? I 19 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:11.920 think that that was a big kind of a big thing of what we wanted 20 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.200 to talk about today, you know, and and why did not only why 21 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.280 did they do the summit, but why did the University of Arizona do this? 22 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.760 Yeah, that's another point. And then of course obviously the question everybody 23 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:25.719 wants to know about the movement or not much longer? Yes? Yes, 24 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:29.480 how much longer? So Jayen's last time you were tackled on a golf course? 25 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:32.879 Man, did you see that? That guy got driven down hard? 26 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:37.439 Was so bizarre? And then they did everything's okay, Yeah, you're okay. 27 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:38.359 Yeah, Well in the celebrate, you know, in the in the 28 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.159 moment of the celebration, you see the caddy go whoa, whoa, like 29 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.760 something. So I'm like, what's happening? And then then you saw it 30 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.519 later here's just my luck on this, Steve. So, I was watching 31 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.200 that playoff for all, watching the whole thing. I mean, every shot, 32 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.680 every shot, every shot, just before those guys come on to to 33 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.719 before he comes on hit the put run in to the bathroom, of course. 34 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:06.400 So I come out of my TV's on, I'm out hearing all the 35 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:08.840 screaming, and I'm like, he didn't make that. And I come around 36 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:13.719 the corner and they're celebrating. So I had had rewind it and rewatch it. 37 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.479 It's you know, it's just not the same when you're when you when 38 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:19.360 you're watching the record. So Jason, he asked me, should I bet 39 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:23.520 on Denver? This is exactly why. Yeah, everything he touches and doesn't 40 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:27.000 touch it, it gets effected. It's crazy, man, every time, 41 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.919 Like, yeah, I firmly believe that if I don't walk away from the 42 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.199 TV, he doesn't make that shot. Probably not. Yeah, you're the 43 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.520 butterfly effect. That was a hell of a thing. Seventy two feet Yeah, 44 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.919 you know, well, you know, I see, I saw the 45 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.479 highlights on that. And I talk about this with you all time because I 46 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.800 don't golf, but I do other things that you know require a momentum in 47 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.680 your world of momentum, but it's not momentum, it's going on a great 48 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.719 run. Because you know, you play you play basketball or whatever, you 49 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.560 go on great runs. Golf is specific if you're playing really well, you 50 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:01.039 have four days of great golf, and then we don't see you. It's 51 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.599 like the dude that one a month ago, or he finished really high in 52 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:08.520 the cometary guy. Yeah, we may never see him again, uh Michael 53 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:12.919 Block, Yeah right, we hadn't known who the he was. Okay, 54 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.960 he finished his fifteenth in the PGA Championship, and his next round of competitive 55 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:21.039 golf, he shoots in eighty one. Yeah right, I mean, and 56 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.039 we never hear from him. We probably want, and but golf is like 57 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:27.960 that where you just go on a stretch of four days where things cannot go 58 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.919 wrong and you're just just dude. You get just this dude called zone. 59 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.719 Yeah yeah, and it happens. It does happen. It happens in a 60 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.680 variety of levers for different things. But I think golf is one of them 61 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:40.520 where you just what happened today, I don't know, I just did shot. 62 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:45.000 I'm a firm believer in the zone as it relates to like golf. 63 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:47.400 I believe that basketball. I believe that, you know, baseball, a 64 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:52.280 guy gets into a hitting zone and just knocks the crap out of a period 65 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.080 of time and then stops all of a sudden it just stops and then it 66 00:03:54.120 --> 00:04:00.439 goes see and that's why it's not momentum. It's just zone zone where things 67 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.280 cannot go wrong. It happens to be an other things and I'm thinking, 68 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.240 what just happened? What just happened? I'll take it because I guess what. 69 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:09.560 It doesn't last long. It doesn't last long. No, it doesn't. 70 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.360 It doesn't. So anyways, if you're expecting to hear doctor Robbins, 71 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.560 we are going to get him at a quarter after, so we'll stick around 72 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.040 for that. We'll keep chatting here. There's a lot of stuff going on 73 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:20.040 over the weekend, but doctor Robbins will be here worth short at the fifteen 74 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:24.639 after. He's a obviously a very busy guy. We felt fortunate just just 75 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.240 to get him. So yeah, we'll see. We've got lots of questions, 76 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.600 and then at four fifteen will have Greg Hanson. Right, we ask 77 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:32.959 Greg Hanson to aid to listen and then to come on with some immediate reaction 78 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:38.439 to anything that Doctor Robbins might might say. You know, when when when 79 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:41.519 when these guys come out and get interviewed and everybody starts, you know, 80 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.519 pays attention. I'm there's gonna be some people listening to our show who probably 81 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:46.240 don't listen to us every day because they want is he going to say something 82 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.000 that's newsworthy? So and we'll see. You know, he's a smart guy. 83 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.600 He'll say what he can and he won't say what he's not supposed to 84 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.680 say, you know, or maybe good lucky and say something he shouldn't. 85 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:58.399 You know again, man, I'm you know, well, well, yeah, 86 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:00.839 you know Da Barnes right, we'll our hat on that one. Did 87 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.160 she announced for pregnancy here? You know, we're open for people breaking big 88 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:08.720 games and we didn't asked the question. Jesus said, okay, no, 89 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.519 cool. So then the the the Nuggets playing to night. The Nuggets play 90 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.720 tonight. I think I think they'll close over. I think they'll close it 91 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.600 out. Yeah, it didn't want to go back to Miami. I mean, 92 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:20.759 it could very easy to go back to Miami. But it's over. 93 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.519 Yeah. The Nuggets are playing way too well. They're just there's too much 94 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.560 for the heat, Like I haven't watching these games and the heat have you 95 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.759 know the spurts where they look kind of good overall? Yeah, Nuggets, 96 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.720 I've just controlled every game part Yeah, no, it should be a good 97 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:39.120 game. It's been a fairly decent series outside of outside of a bad quarter 98 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:45.319 for Denver, they should have swept. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh 99 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:46.839 yeah, so they should have already be done. Yeah, because that one 100 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.000 bad quarter. Customed to the game. So we'll see what happens tonight. 101 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:54.439 A lot of things. The World Series is kind of official except for one 102 00:05:54.480 --> 00:06:00.040 team. So right, yeah, play tonight, step with the other the 103 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:06.079 other one, dude, there's another series Tennessee and Mississippi Southern Missisouri. Okay, 104 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:10.040 did that one too, Stanford. I thought Stafford won it last night. 105 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.000 No, they were, they were down one. Oh, they had 106 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.800 to win. They're they're going, They're they're going. I think so they 107 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.800 won two, they won the they won the first. Just looked it up. 108 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:23.560 Well maybe that was Oregon Oregans out, Organs out. But I know 109 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.680 Stanford one last night, Stanford one last night, but thought they were down 110 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:30.120 one. Oh No, they played a night at Okay, I watched him 111 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.439 last night with the lanky dude. That's why that was such a big deal, 112 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.639 is that they had to win that one. And uh, you know 113 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.800 what, that makes sense because they didn't celebrate. They didn't celebrate anything. 114 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.360 That's odd. That's Stanford. They're not celebrating. And that picture Quinn Matthews 115 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.600 a senior. One hundred and fifty six pitches, but that doesn't include the 116 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.160 rust the other pitches he threw. Well, yeah, dude, you never, 117 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.120 you never, You never cut the worm up pitches, don't. No, 118 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:54.680 No, I'm talking about he was already kind of throwing a lot already. 119 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:56.720 I mean, yeah, he throw the forever, but one hundred and 120 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:00.680 fifty six pitches last night, you got yet people losing their minds. I'm 121 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:02.040 like, you know, you know who knows whether or not he can throw 122 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:05.560 one hundred fifty six pitches? Him he's the only one that knows. Yeah, 123 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.680 Twitter is going to all a guess because they should fire the manager, 124 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.959 fire the coach. And my son Adam is going, what's the big deal? 125 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.519 My dad had me throw one hundred and sixty eight one time and then 126 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.600 play shortstop in the second game of the double header. But you know, 127 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:23.079 and and honestly, in that game, I mean nothing, not that there's 128 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.759 any real comparison, but he throw a butch and we kept track of his 129 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:28.959 pitches. We had a chart we could track of pitches. Of course, 130 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.360 we only had room for one hundred and fifty. So but every inning that 131 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:33.199 he came in, I'm like, how are you doing? How are you 132 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:35.560 doing? Does your back hurt? Does your arm hurt? Your legs? 133 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:39.000 Okay? He kept saying, I'm good back, I'm good, I'm good 134 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.639 back in the day. And maybe that's where the tummy John stuff and all 135 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.519 that coming out now, But it was you. You threw until you couldn't. 136 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.720 Right, You don't put a little dirt on it? Yeah, you 137 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.240 know, I mean you have these you have these pitch counts in little leagues 138 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:53.240 and and and uh and high schools and stuff like that, you know, 139 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.360 to protect the kids. And and I think what it's done is it's it's 140 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.839 hurt you know, stamina and dirt. Bill. In fact, if you 141 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.920 high school coach here listening, just just because give us a quick call. 142 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.560 We had about that in the championship game. He had to take this guy 143 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.319 out because he had reached his pitch. And you don't have to identify yourself 144 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.480 if you don't want. But is it a bunch of crap or is it 145 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:18.519 true? Or do you have to take care of your pictures um accordingly because 146 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.319 they make you well, you know, I go all the way back to 147 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:28.000 um the run that uh that uh you have a had under Jay Johnson and 148 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.159 Bobby Dalbeck through a whole bunch of innings in that College World Series. People 149 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:33.639 were saying that they're they're wrecking his arm. Well, first of all, 150 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.399 he wasn't going to be a pitcher in the pros. That's the first thing. 151 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.559 So you know, and again it's the guy knows, you know, 152 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.480 he knows, and and and it's yeah, it's up to a trainer or 153 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:50.480 or a coach to kind of pay attention and not not let him hurt himself. 154 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.759 But a guy knows, I can, I've got more left in my 155 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.159 arm. And that's the only person that knows, right, right, right, 156 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.639 and uh, And so they moved to another game. Makes sense now 157 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.120 that they didn't celebrate. I thought that they didn't won it. They were 158 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.080 they were it was a two two game at one point, well they were 159 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.799 down to nothing and then came back, and then they came back and won 160 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.879 that games. Yeah, you know, I sat there and watch when I 161 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:16.440 when I saw on Twitter how many you know that people were putting up his 162 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.080 pitch, I was like, I gotta go see this. And the guy, 163 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.320 you know, did he look tired. Yeah he did. But you 164 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:26.080 know they say a lot of particularly he's a buck twenty and but particularly some 165 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:30.559 of these guys who throw a lot of off speed stuff and breaking when you're 166 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:35.080 more tired. It's when they say that you're more effective because you're not throwing 167 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.919 too hard and you're giving, you're letting your ball do what it needs to 168 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.799 do. And he doesn't throw gas. He just goes. He just throws 169 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:45.000 strikes, struck out sixteen. A great, incredible performance by him, went 170 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.279 for the ages. People talk about that for a long time. Win or 171 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.519 lose, they'll talk about it for a long time. Yeah, a lot 172 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.600 of things. A do you have breaking news of a stuff track? Okay, 173 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.440 I was gonna touch on on on the track situation, but okay, 174 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.279 coaches coming, you got going into this conversation, conversation we're gonna have with 175 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.720 Bobby Robins. I came across this thing just a little bit, just a 176 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.399 little bit before the show started. But you know, the Big Ten came 177 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:13.320 out with their football schedules for one, UCLA and USC jointed and only who 178 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.919 they play, not dates and times and all that stuff, but just who 179 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:22.679 everybody plays. So in of the existing of the existing Big Ten teams. 180 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:28.120 Somebody went and did the math of how many miles each team in the Big 181 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:33.799 Ten will travel in their Big Ten away games. So, I mean, 182 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.799 obviously, obviously ucln US You're gonna be number one and two because they're you 183 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:43.080 know, so far away. But so number three is Nebraska seven thousand miles 184 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:48.399 for away games. Number four is Iowa sixty six hundred miles. Number five 185 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.080 Ohio State sixty four hundred and sixty five hundred basically, and so on down 186 00:10:52.120 --> 00:11:03.799 the line U UCLA, number one at USC sixteen thousand miles. So again, 187 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.440 number four is number three Nebraska seven thousand. So you USC is gonna 188 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:13.559 travel sixteen thousand miles for its road road pack up Big Ten games, with 189 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.320 one of those games being at UCLA where they're twenty miles away, and UCLA 190 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:24.320 a second at fifteen thousand and four hundred miles. I again, we talked 191 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.639 about this last weekend. I said, you know what, I guess we 192 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:28.399 won't know until we ask the kids to us. It's a long distance, 193 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.919 blah blah blah. But do the kids really care? I mean, they're 194 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.320 going, they're gonna play, And this is not so much about the big 195 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.919 guys. You're talking about my thing. I think the kids, and I 196 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:43.759 think the kids in track and tennis and uh and uh you know where water, 197 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:50.200 polo, volleyball, softball, even baseball. It's gonna matter to them. 198 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.960 Jackson the kid. Yeah, I was thinking about it. I mean 199 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.639 I would care because as a student athlete, they as you know, go 200 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:58.279 to clouds, do other things, not just like you know, play the 201 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.759 support it's right, So they asked, you know, conditioning yourself and then 202 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.960 you know treatment in bostil study and do homework and kind of one house, 203 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.919 some kind of wife as well. But if they're always just coming home really 204 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.559 early or late, I guess, and then having with a class and then 205 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:16.960 you know, treatments in a practice at we'll ask doctor doctor Robbins about this 206 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.200 too. Yeah, because obviously he's in the student. He's in the student 207 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.120 athlete right, not right, not athlete student type of thing. Right, 208 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:28.080 What it means? What this happening? And guess what it's gonna it's eventually 209 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.080 before your death, before mine, it's gonna happen. These teams are gonna 210 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.440 gonna be regional, Midwest, West, blah blah blah. They'll be going 211 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:39.679 they'll be going east somewhere. Yeah, for all these childs, but maybe 212 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.000 not as much obviously. I think at some point, I mean, the 213 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:48.879 common sense thing would be to regionalize, you know, college athletics one from 214 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:50.919 a cost dandpoint of course no, let me say you, Jay, we 215 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.600 talked about this two three years ago when COVID hit and teams are running out 216 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.919 of money millions into dent right, we said, don't you think this is 217 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:03.159 gonna curtail the trap because you can't spend all this money traveling all over the 218 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.279 country. Gets gotten worse, it's doors box is open even more. Yeah, 219 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.440 it's gotten a lot worse, you know, I mean again, and 220 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.480 you know again, and i'd like again, I'd like to think that you 221 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.039 USC and ucl A pencil to all of this out how much their travel is 222 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.720 going to cost for all the other sports and whatnot. And they still did 223 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.440 it. But you know, for those people who are saying, well, 224 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.120 they're you know, they're getting however, you know, eighty million dollars you 225 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.679 know as part of their contract. What's the net? Yeah, the net's 226 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:33.440 not what everybody thinks it is. Sure, Sure, I will know when 227 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.320 su all that comes out with for money and find acis do you think we 228 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.879 should go? I think we have. 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Now on the phone, we have doctor Robbins. 284 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.599 You know him, we know him. He's the ULA president. How are 285 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.720 you doctor I am doing well. Thanks for having me on your show. 286 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:56.160 To appreciate you joining us. We know you're such a busy guy, so 287 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:00.119 let's just get right. We wanted to talk about this that the U of 288 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.759 A hosted last week. It sounded like an important summit because as you were 289 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:08.079 talking to us off the air, everybody was there. The NCAA president, 290 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:14.319 he had media and athletic directors and presidents. Why was it important to do 291 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:17.720 this and why was it important for the U of A to do this? 292 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:22.920 Well, I think it's such an important part of any university, and we 293 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:33.519 have an embassy a center in DC that is focused on advancing the causes of 294 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.319 the university, and this is really important to the university, and so we 295 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:45.359 thought that we would use our opportunity in DC at a time where, for 296 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:51.720 instance, Gregg Sanky, the commissioner of the Southeastern Conference, was there with 297 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:56.480 Coach Saban walking the halls of Congress to talk about the future of college athletics. 298 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:03.200 We had Governor Charlie Baker, the former governor of Massachusetts who's the new 299 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:12.559 president of the NCAA. We had other commissioners, ads, coaches, members 300 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:18.880 of Congress. We we opened the night before the summit on Wednesday night with 301 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:26.519 a reception at the Capitol with lawmakers and and all the people who were coming 302 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.119 to the conference, and there were many people who couldn't be there who streamed 303 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:38.400 it live all around the world. We had students, we had collectives around 304 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:45.720 raising money for name image and likeness. We we had people from the media 305 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.799 that are leaders and spokespeople for college athletics. And the one thing we all 306 00:19:52.839 --> 00:20:00.519 agreed upon is we understand the importance of college athletics and we love it, 307 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:07.559 and we wanted to have a discussion of which we will have a white paper 308 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:15.039 that will come out of that and be sort of a guideline for what we 309 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:22.079 can use to convince the US Congress to act, because you know, all 310 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:27.839 the states have different laws even to think about, uh you know, the 311 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:33.319 sec for instance, you know, several of their states have enacted laws that 312 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:41.400 would prohibit the nc double A from enforcing rules in those states. So I 313 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:48.759 think it was a really rich, in uh frank discussion about the current state 314 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:55.200 of college athletics and what are some things that we could potentially do with federal 315 00:20:55.319 --> 00:21:00.720 legislation and other changes at the NCUBLEA to improve the health of college athletics. 316 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.480 You talked about that earlier, just the future of the athletics. It's changed 317 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.200 so much since you were an athlete. We've covered it for a little more 318 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.640 than three decades. It's it's not the it's not our father's NC double A 319 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:17.079 anymore. What do you think you're going ahead? I missed you. What 320 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.200 what do you think it's going to ahead? All positively? I hope, 321 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.279 yeah, I think so. You know, it's um, you know, 322 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:29.759 we learned from President Baker. They're over one hundred committees at the NC double 323 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.960 A and with you know, probably ten people per committee, and so that's 324 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.759 eighteen hundred people who are trying to guide the NC double A. And I'm 325 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:45.599 I'm really confident in Governor Baker's leadership. He was focused in on some uh 326 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:49.160 changes that will be made at the at the NC double A. UM, 327 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:56.200 you know, there was talk about federal legislation and even potentially having federal oversight 328 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.279 of college athletics, which, um, you know, it was an interesting 329 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:06.160 topic that I hadn't thought much about before this conference. So I think there 330 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:11.440 are a lot of changes that should be positive going forward to support our student 331 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:18.480 athletes, to make them uh not only successful in the the chosen sport that 332 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:25.960 they participate in, but most importantly for life after UH they leave our universities, 333 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.240 and there's uniformity and agreement on that. So you mentioned that there's going 334 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:32.559 to be a white paper coming out of this, out of this summit, 335 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:33.759 because I mean, the issues are still big, right, there aren't there 336 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:38.000 aren't any quick answers to anything. So how will all this information or this 337 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:44.799 discussion get used for there to be you know, some end result to this, 338 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.240 right, I mean you want you know, there's got to be decisions 339 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.319 made. There's got to be whether it's legislation or policies or whatever. In 340 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.599 the end, you got to get to something that's going to make all this 341 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.119 manageable, because it's really not manageable right now. Is that what was what's 342 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:04.240 supposed to happen out of this summit? Yes, that's it. And so 343 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:10.240 we talked about name, image and likeness. I think there's some quick focus 344 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:15.480 things that could be done there. We talked about um UH conference realignment, 345 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:21.319 we talked about the transfer portal. We talked about some of the major things 346 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:26.039 that are going on in the in the sector right now and what could be 347 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:33.039 focused upon I think what you're going to see the US Congress do is probably 348 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:42.359 start down a pathway of trying to codify some national UH guidelines around and laws 349 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:47.920 around name, image and likeness and things like that. So I my hope 350 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:53.519 is that the summer that the committees UH that in both the House and the 351 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:59.720 Senate, there there are some bills that are going to be proposed coming out 352 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:03.440 of the committees, and then you get a chance toward the end of the 353 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:11.720 summer to socialize those bills and get compromises, and then maybe by the fall 354 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.279 have the full Congress, both both sides of the House and the Senate, 355 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.839 and then ultimately, of course the President would sign some sort of legislation. 356 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:26.119 But I think that's probably going to be focused right now as a first step 357 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.599 on name, image and likeness. So, doctor Robinson, you were a 358 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:33.519 young man when we started talking about conference realignment. I feel like the girl 359 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.519 the lady on the Titanic. It's been eighty four years. When do you 360 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:45.319 think this is going to end finally be a resolved or will it conference realignment? 361 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:52.039 I think you've seen conference realignment over the lifetime of all three of us, 362 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.640 and there's probably going to continue to be movement around conference realignment. I 363 00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:06.279 think right now, you know, the last entity to to try to stabilize 364 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:11.839 this for the time being is the PAC twelve and what and that's going to 365 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.799 hinge on what kind of media deal the PAC twelve gets and whether it's acceptable 366 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:22.480 to the ten remaining universities that are make up the PAC twelve. So last 367 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:23.640 week, let's let's go back to that, because last week there was a 368 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:30.240 bunch of media sources right saying that the PAC twelve had reached a grant of 369 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.759 rights, a verbal grant of rights agreement. You said that you hadn't hadn't 370 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.160 heard of one. Media is still saying even though Bobby Robin says it's not 371 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.160 there, they're still saying it is. We've had all this stuff, I 372 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:47.000 mean, first of all, just the all the speculation and guessing that's gone 373 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:48.599 on. That's had to drive you a little bit crazy. But how do 374 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.079 you get your arms around that and kind of how much can you tell us 375 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.160 about where things are right now? Yeah, I think that there there was 376 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:03.599 something lost in translation there when I was asked a question about the grant of 377 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.480 rights. No university is going to sign a grant of rights until the media 378 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:12.759 deal is in front of them. Okay, So yes, the PAC twelve 379 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:18.319 put out a statement and it is the fact. It is true that we 380 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:25.599 have all ten verbally agreed that if the deal is acceptable to each one of 381 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:30.160 our universities, then we will sign the grant of rights. So that we 382 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.799 have to wait to see what the deal is and you have to go down 383 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:38.160 and do a roll call. Arizona yes or no, you know, Arizona 384 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:44.039 State, yes or no, Stanford University, yes or no, and we 385 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.960 all want to stay together. My prediction is that we all will stay together, 386 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.839 even though there are a lot of speculation about some of the schools in 387 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:57.839 our conference leaving. I think if we all get a deal that we think 388 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:03.519 is is a creative to our universities, will sign those grants of rights and 389 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.440 we'll be happy and we'll stay together. Okay. One of the things that's 390 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.559 been hanging out there, and again we're speculating again if the deal didn't come 391 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.119 through to Arizona satisfaction. You were looking for a place, you know, 392 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.960 I grew up in I grew up in Arizona. The idea of Arizona and 393 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.279 Arizona State splitting up in some form, you know, going back to when 394 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.640 Arizona and ASU went into what was the Pack eight at the time, and 395 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.119 ASU went in kicking and screaming they did not want to go. Arizona wanted 396 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.240 to go, and the legislation in the region's basically said, too bad, 397 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:38.079 you're going. What's I feel it seems like that's changed, that they're you 398 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.400 know, you guys aren't hooked to each other like we thought you were, 399 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.599 or like you have been in the past. Well, I think I think, 400 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.240 you know, if you look at the you know, tragedies of A 401 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:55.720 and M and UT splitting up. Now they're they're coming back together again. 402 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.000 They're getting the band back together down there in Texas in the SEC conference. 403 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.880 So I'm confident that President Crew and I are aligned, uh and we'll do 404 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.400 the best for our universities and the two of us will be aligned. This 405 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:18.400 must take a lot of your time, just the non academic side of it. 406 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.039 It does, it does, you know, as they always talk about, 407 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.759 it's the it's the medical enterprise in athletics that consumes so much of your 408 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:33.279 time as a as a university president. Um. But I'm I'm hopeful that 409 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:38.599 we're going to see some changes around these major issues in the transfer portal in 410 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:45.319 IL and conference realignment, and the conference realignment UM rests on the media deal 411 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:52.799 that we can we can get. Are we gonna like what college athletics becomes 412 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.799 after this? I mean, you know, you you and Steve and I 413 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.119 we you know, we were you know with the old Nebraska Oklahoma game in 414 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.640 USC and UCLA and all of that stuff that we grew up with. And 415 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.359 we love college athletics because of the tradition and all that kind of stuff, 416 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.400 and that's kind of like that does all that stuff doesn't even matter anymore. 417 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.319 So those of us in the time that we have left, are we gonna 418 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:18.920 like what especially college football looks like down the road? Is it still going 419 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.400 to be as fun for us and you know, as big a part of 420 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.599 our lives as it always was? Yeah? I think so, I'm confident 421 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.640 about that. I think, you know, their their evolutions that go on 422 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:36.400 in every part of the society. And you know, we've got the College 423 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:40.680 Football Playoff coming around, and you know, you get you get a twelfth 424 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.319 teen tournament and you know, I don't know that I'll ever get in in 425 00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:49.799 Division two and three? Do this already? UM? Even the you know, 426 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:56.279 the one uh one double A schools have a playoff, and so I 427 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:02.319 think that's gonna energize the sport the call college football landscape, uh and the 428 00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:04.559 and that's going to be here before you know it. And I think you're 429 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:11.400 going to see renewed excitement about, you know, having a twelve team playoff. 430 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.519 I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Um, just 431 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.119 maybe a couple of good questions before you leave, you have to travel stuff. 432 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:18.720 I don't know if you want to say, but let me ask him. 433 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.359 As we finished the school year, finally, baseball, everything's done. 434 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.359 How do you review the the athletic department in terms of how it did this 435 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.160 year? Football, basketball, all that stuff. Yeah, I think I 436 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.839 think every in every aspect, all of our teams, whether it be golf 437 00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:41.960 or tennis, or swimming and diving, women's basketball, uh, men's basketball, 438 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:48.559 college football, we're all collectively moving in the right direction. Um. 439 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.839 You know, as I always say, I want every one of our teams 440 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.920 at the start of the year to have their goal of winning in national championship. 441 00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:00.519 And well, let's have a winning season and then let's compete for conference 442 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:07.000 championship and then go on for national championships. Obviously, coach Lloyd had another 443 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:15.079 phenomenal year. And I think that all of our sports are looking in a 444 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:21.920 positive direction into the future. And I think that if you just go and 445 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.599 look down one by one, we're going in the right direction and almost every 446 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.039 sport. Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you kind of a weird 447 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.440 question because I'm a little bit of a degenerate like this. I I you 448 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.200 know, with ucln USC leaving, I'm I'm still pretty pretty upset with those 449 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.119 guys, and so I'm kind of like hoping that this is really hard on 450 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.720 them. And that's again, that's just way, that's just the way my 451 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.519 brain works. But a thing came out today where somebody did the math on 452 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.240 how much travel USC and UCLA are just going to have to do in football 453 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.000 compared to the other Big Ten schools, and for both of them, it's 454 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:59.079 more than double the travel for their Big Ten games. I mean, did 455 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:04.000 you ever feel like they didn't think hard enough about this or and how much 456 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.519 how hard is that going to be on on the athletes and not just football 457 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.359 and basketball, but everybody else. You know, do you do you think 458 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:14.440 about that at all. Oh yeah, of course. And you know, 459 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:20.000 I'm not angry about it. I understand the reasons why they did it. 460 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.880 It was for money and uh uh and the the toll that is going to 461 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:32.279 be uh given to the uh the athletes, the coaches, the staffs, 462 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.000 and the finances of how much it's going to cost to do all the travel 463 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.599 and support. UM. I think it's gonna be an unintended consequence, but 464 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.119 it's gonna be a reality, and I just I hate to see it. 465 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:51.400 I think you know, if you talk about, um, you know, 466 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:57.160 merging the PAC twelve with the Big twelve and the ACC to create the real 467 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.559 super conference, UM, you would have to have divisions and you would play 468 00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:06.599 some you know, think of it as the NFL. You play most of 469 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.160 her if you're in the a FL East, you play mostly on the East 470 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.440 Coast. But then occasionally you go and you play a game or two out 471 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.400 of conference or out of your division. And that that is being lost with 472 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:27.079 this now big ten uh um arrangement that's been made with USC in UCLA. 473 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.319 I hate it. I know you're not mad. I'm still mad. Yeah, 474 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:37.119 I hate it too. I'm so disappointed because, UM, UCLA in 475 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:45.119 USC I just hate we're not going to be having the UCLA Arizona, um, 476 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:51.359 you know home in the Way series, that all the other things that 477 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.200 that in the Rose Bowl is not going to be the same. It's just 478 00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:00.519 very very heartbreaking. Well one quick thing, doctor two, is that modulations 479 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:06.319 the bat men's basketball schedule is fantastic for this coming year. Yeah, finally, 480 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:08.480 good. Okay, we're looking for that, looking forward to that, 481 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.159 right, Okay, Well doctor Robbins, Um, well, you know, 482 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.559 just keep it churning. We know you guys will have a deal at some 483 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.760 point, and hopefully it's a good one because I can't take another eighty four 484 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.599 years. I want to stay in the back. I really really do. 485 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.159 And I think all of our school will say the same thing. Yeah, 486 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:29.119 okay, thank you, doc. We appreciate it. Okay, thank you 487 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.000 so much. Yeah, we couldn't get him longer than that. He's rushing 488 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.639 to another meeting. Yea. Um, but you know, look, you 489 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:37.679 know, well I'm glad that he hates it. I know he's not rooting 490 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.079 against him, because I'm I'm just that kind of a guy who is. 491 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.119 But his temperament and mean, I know we've got to go is that I 492 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.519 think, and you can only read between the lines, right, that it's 493 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.679 gonna stay together. Yeah for a while, at least for a while, 494 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.199 at least for a while, at least for a while until there's a better 495 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.840 idea. Yeah right, I was just under the circumstances what we have now. 496 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.000 I just rather all together because it is so different, and I know 497 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.719 times of change, and I don't, you know, hate I hate the 498 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:06.360 internet, blah blah blah, but that's where we're gonna be watching game. 499 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.079 Eventually everything slepped going to the internet or streaming or whatever it is. Didn't 500 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.639 you say ESPN is doing the same thing now with gonna separate itself from TBE. 501 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.840 They're gonna, yeah, they're gonna go off the linear one hundred percent 502 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.320 streaming at some point. The different world for us, Steve, No, 503 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.119 I know. The thing is that we're still alive, and we got to 504 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:29.239 deal with it. The BTC alternative. All right, let's go and take 505 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:30.519 our break and we'll react to some more of that when we get back. 506 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.400 So let's stick around one. If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you 507 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.880 know it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now, take a look back 508 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.719 at the Ludolson era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot, it 509 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.760 was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches 510 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.239 and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led them, 511 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:51.280 competed against them, and inspired them twenty five chapters for his twenty five years 512 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.519 as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Loot is an insight to how he built 513 00:35:54.559 --> 00:36:00.519 the program into a national powerhouse. 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Um, you've got a couple of text you good interviews. 556 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:06.440 Yeah, you know, I just I don't. I don't know what 557 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:07.440 to come of it because I don't know what he's said. Well, one 558 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:12.079 thing I did learn, and because I've been sitting here wondering why why are 559 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.840 they going to leave nil in the hands of the federal governments? And and 560 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.480 and what he explained was that all these other states are coming up with their 561 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.599 own laws. So it makes sense. You know, the NCAABAA didn't do 562 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.199 it, so the states decided to do it, and they're doing it, 563 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.440 and every state it hasn't that's doing it has done it differently from the others. 564 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.559 Yeah, so you know, they got to corral that and and it 565 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.239 kind of sounds like they're really counting on the federal government to do that, 566 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.159 which is why they did that summit last week. Well last week, did 567 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:44.440 you see the i RS got involved too? Well, they r s saying 568 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:50.480 yeah, that that donors that the donations to collectives cannot be tax deductible, 569 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.320 you know. So again there's all the stuff swirling, which I guess, 570 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:58.679 you know, it was kind of obvious, right, the federal government has 571 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:00.239 to step in and do this because everyybody's doing it on their own and it's 572 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.480 piecemeal and it's creating more chaos instead of less. All right, you just 573 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.519 think it's a it's a it's a big bag of craziness. Yeah, And 574 00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:13.159 depends where you're at, it's your benefiting or not benefiting. Now. I 575 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.280 wanted to ask him too, because we have the Geist stuff and that just 576 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.320 strikes me so much. We talked about it with a few people. Here's 577 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.320 a guy who's fantastically celebrated but not celebrated financially. Well, you know, 578 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.119 we maybe we can get one of the you know, one of the collectives 579 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.840 guys on to talk about that's how do you get money to a guy like 580 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.960 Jordan Geist? Yeah? Right, well, let's sound well because I actually 581 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.440 sent him a note today the adamazars yea from from Yeah, you know, 582 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.280 how does how does how does someone like Jordan Guist who's as as still and 583 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.639 Delaney Chanelle who has accomplished as any athlete that's at the University of Arizona right 584 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:51.840 now. How do they get some of that? Yeah, deservedly? So 585 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.000 they should. Yeah, they should because not only are they you know, 586 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:59.159 champions, but they're bringing a lot of a lot of prestige to the University 587 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:00.719 of Arizona, you know, I mean they're they're you know, I'm sure 588 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:05.960 the recruiting, you know, for in both of those sports is a little 589 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.320 bit better because of what they've done. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's 590 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:14.199 called Hi, you're on the air and I on the ball. How you 591 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.079 doing today? What's that Brian? Well, I heard the interview. It 592 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:22.239 was very good. There was one thing that I kind of was surprised about 593 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.760 what he said. You mentioned about when they get the agreement or whatever it's 594 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.639 gonna be or yeah, that they're gonna need all ten to vote for it. 595 00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.119 Well they said it doesn't have to be a unanimous I don't think, 596 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.320 but well that's what he said. He said all ten of them had to 597 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.079 and and I'm sitting there going, Okay, we're looking at the wild card 598 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.599 in this whole thing. It's gotta be Colorado. Well, I think that 599 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.519 Arizona is a wild card too without saying it, because because you know, 600 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.360 if you're Arizona, if you're Arizona and Colorado and there and there's a sneaky 601 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:59.719 chance to leave, aren't you gonna leave? You know? To me, 602 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.880 um, the way the Big twelve Arizona goes there in Colorado, the way 603 00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:09.280 the Big twelve is built is just so much better than whatever the PAC twelve 604 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.559 could possibly be if they add San Diego State in some other wildcard team. 605 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.239 Well, you know, that's the funny thing, because I think Jay harped 606 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.840 on this. Given the choice, Jay and correct me if I'm wrong, 607 00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.760 you want to stay, Yeah, you want to stay. But but Bryan, 608 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.239 it's not as which is sexier the PAC twelve as it would be, 609 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.480 or the Big twelve as it would be. The Big twelve by far, 610 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.880 I mean, and I understand Jay's point of view, But if we're not 611 00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.719 going to have UCLA and USA is not the PAC twelve, right, I 612 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.280 agree totally, Agreen, And it's to me, it's just it's just it 613 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.440 could be the Whack, it could be the Mountain West. It's basically the 614 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.800 same thing, you know, because I just don't I just can't see Oregon 615 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.039 in Washington also because there had been talk about them wanting a larger portion of 616 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:02.239 the pie than the other schools. And if if that, if they don't 617 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.440 get if it's all an equal amount, I don't think Oregon and Washington would 618 00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.199 want to be in that. They'll say, okay, let's push to go 619 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:13.000 to the Big ten. Then well. The thing, the thing I believe 620 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.000 though, Brian, is that, um, whatever happens, you know, 621 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.480 if azone that stays in the PAC twelve, it's temporary. All of this. 622 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.920 I think all of this is going to get restructured totally. But it's 623 00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.800 the win. It's still win, and it's probably you know, five years 624 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.480 down the road, five years number, five years after the new contracts go 625 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.360 into effect next year. So I think that it's it's it's temporary and at 626 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.800 some point and in that time, you know, the schools have to get 627 00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:46.480 their stuff together, have to you know, get them all in a room 628 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:51.800 and nobody comes out until you have a thing done that you realign the whole 629 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.519 damn thing in a way that makes sense, because right now it makes zero 630 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.039 sense. Oklahoma and Texas do not be long in the SEC. They do 631 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:04.320 not be long playing in the South right, Uh right, us USC and 632 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.519 UCLA do not be long playing in the Midwest. Uh, you know, 633 00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.760 West Virginia shouldn't be playing, you know, in the You know, it's 634 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.400 got to get organized. And I don't know how they'll ever do it because 635 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.119 money is running everything and they're just going to do whatever makes them the most 636 00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:22.400 money, right, you know. And I look at this, so I'm 637 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:28.639 going I just can't understand how Arizona could stay in the back ten and and 638 00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:34.119 consider themselves a viable athletic program staying it, you know, especially for football, 639 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.119 because they'll have a basketball Basketball can run its own. Yeah, they'll 640 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:43.159 have a better but Brian, basically baseball and softball. But football is the 641 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.039 money generator, and they got to figure out a way to get more money. 642 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.400 Well, school, if they're getting if they're getting about the same amount 643 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.239 of money as they would be getting in the Big twelve, then you want 644 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:53.960 to stay in the Pack twelve because one, you get the same amount of 645 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.519 money in two your road, it's all about getting into the into the college 646 00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:01.880 football Playoff. I like Arizona's chances of getting in the playoff from the Pac 647 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:07.079 twelve then from the Big twelve. Right, And also your expenses would not 648 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.119 be as high, right, you don't want to be traveling to West Virginia, 649 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.559 you know, or wherever you know. And also also one thing also 650 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.119 he brought up about, you know, Congress getting involved in all this stuff. 651 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.719 And until they figure out, I'm not so much worried about the nil 652 00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.440 because they're gonna pay whatever they pay, you know, and I don't care 653 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:25.599 about that. We're gonna put a limit. They're not gonna be able to 654 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.760 put a cap on this. They've already opened Pandora's box. And that's just 655 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.159 the way it's going to be. But the thing they've got this strands, 656 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:36.239 they've got it straight out as the transport portal that you know, this can't 657 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.920 have kids, you know, like every year transferring or there's got to be 658 00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.360 a select period of time after a season is over, and that's it. 659 00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.639 You can't transfer after that, let's say sixty ninety days after the season's over. 660 00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.639 Once that's done, it's done. Well, that's that's not gonna get 661 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.800 fixed in Congress. The NC double's got to fix that, right, But 662 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.880 the NC double A is just pushing it off on everybody else. They don't 663 00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.880 want to. They don't want to solve any of these problems. You know, 664 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.079 they don't seem really care too much about what happens. And probably five 665 00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.920 years we want to have an NC DOUABA anyway, right, you're right. 666 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.360 May it may just be a minor league, a football program. I just 667 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:16.280 it's gonna be a power five whatever conferences, and that's going to be it. 668 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:22.360 Yeah, yeah, Okay. To your question about the vote for the 669 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.360 TV deal and grant of rights, I sent John Wilner, who knows everything 670 00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.840 about all this stuff. Um, he said it has to be a supermajority, 671 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.920 but not unanimous. He said eight out of ten. I think that 672 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.960 still may be tough. If you know, that may be tough if Colorado 673 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.400 is playing both sides here. Yeah, well, you know what I say, 674 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.519 anybody who votes against it, just get the hell out of here. 675 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.880 Eight out of ten, No, that is gonna be tough. Yeah, 676 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:53.800 but you know, my problem is replacing usc UCLA with San Diego State, 677 00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.960 which had a couple of good football years, a couple and a couple of 678 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.559 good basketball years, and that's about it. And then somebody else who're trying 679 00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:05.400 to pick out of the air, and that's not going to make this conference 680 00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.920 attractive. Yeah, it just got to be good enough. Thank you, 681 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:15.039 Thanks, thank you, Brian. Okay, yeah, no, I understand 682 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:20.039 that one hundred percent. You're not. You're not going to replace and UCLA 683 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:24.360 and USC with somebody, anybody. They're equal, you're not. But if 684 00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:30.199 all you know, all other things are equal, I'd just rather stay where 685 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.760 we are. I get it. You're a lover, a lover of the 686 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.840 familiar. Yeah, and that's that's not a sham. There's you shouldn't be 687 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.320 no shame in that. Football wise, it's it's not a it's a wash, 688 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.679 so wash. Maybe for basketball it's a major benefit. Dude. I'm 689 00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.039 one of those guys that goes to a restaurant in orders the same thing You've 690 00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:53.239 lived all your life. So I get it. I get it. It's 691 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:59.320 costability. I get this every time. But pretty much, whatever restaurant it 692 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:00.920 is, I mean, if I, if I, if I, if 693 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:06.639 I, if I stray, it's not by much, right. Could you 694 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.480 take off the rice? Please? Could you put in one of those little 695 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:16.000 cafeteria of trays. Everything in his little corner, don't touch, don't we'll 696 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.960 see. I mean who we are. June fifteenth, June twelfth, whatever 697 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.760 it is, we said by the end of the month, kind of my 698 00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:28.679 self imposed deadline, because this deadline has gone on eleven months. Yeah, 699 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:31.719 it's gone on forever. But it's funny. I was listening to Wilner's podcast 700 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.880 and he goes with John Kanzano, and they were both talking about They said 701 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:37.159 it was going to be, you know, at the beginning of November, 702 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.079 and then the end of November, then by Christmas, and then by March, 703 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:43.760 and then by you know, and now here we are in June, 704 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.280 and neither one of them would commit to anything. And they said, don't 705 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:51.039 be surprised if this goes into July. Who was about you lost to me 706 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:52.519 in August? Oh, I said he was gonna be August. I know, 707 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.440 it was like two weeks after the place, because I thought there was 708 00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:59.519 gonna be some urgency to this damn thing, and there hasn't been, and 709 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:04.719 there hasn't been, but I you know it to me again, it's it's 710 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.039 the unknown. It's once it's settled and we know what we got, I'll 711 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:13.239 be okay with wherever it wherever it lands. Just get it done. Just 712 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.880 just let's just get this done so we can talk about you know, what 713 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.760 this is going to be like as opposed to guessing what it's gonna you know, 714 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.320 what what it's gonna be, because we just we don't know. I 715 00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:28.599 you know, I don't know Robert's Look, he's he's a cool, calm 716 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.679 and collected guy, right, he's he's a heart surgeon, so he's you 717 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.599 know. Somebody said, like, you're not gonna make him nervous, right, 718 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.320 So I think he's he you know, but from the sounds of it, 719 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:43.679 he sounds confident that, you know, he doesn't sound generate at all 720 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.679 about what we're going to the Big twelve or something. I don't think it's 721 00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.599 a it's a big concern. If they do, they do, if they 722 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:51.480 don't, Like I said, you you guys who want to know, I 723 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.760 want to know now eventually, just tell me where the bus ticket is and 724 00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.840 we'll get on the bus. Yeah, but it's just I want to go 725 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.519 know where I'm going, that's all. Yeah, you know, make a 726 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:01.679 reservation at the hotel. I don't want to get on the bus until in 727 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.800 or it's going, right and I want the bus to like tell me right 728 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:07.639 now where it's going. And ain't gonna tell you now. It's gonna not 729 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.880 even gonn tell you the price of a ticket. Yeah, that's for sure. 730 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.440 We'll see. Okay, so we're gonna have a Greg on the other 731 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.639 side talking more about this and see what else is going on. Uh. 732 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.360 He didn't say much about the school year. School year? How would you 733 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.320 rate the school year? I know, we don't have like a UM, 734 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:30.639 it's a bizarre it's like a C plus. I'm I'm more in the B 735 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.719 maybe a B minus um B or straight B or B managed because the basketball 736 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.880 team did great, even though they pissed away the NCAA women football. The 737 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:45.559 football team was you know, it was much better. Um, women's basketball, 738 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.719 you know, kind of held their own, didn't do didn't do great. 739 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.719 You know, obviously baseball and softball were well. Baseball wasn't a total 740 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.239 disappointment. They got into the NC double as softball was. I was like, 741 00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:58.400 what the hell? But you know, there were a lot of factors 742 00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:00.400 there too, you know, to two of their best players leaving at the 743 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.480 last minute and stuff like that. So, um, I'm more in the 744 00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:10.400 B or B minus range even B overall. Yeah, you know, tracted 745 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.119 well, Tennis did well. Tennis did well. There was off did well. 746 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:16.519 So there was some other sports. As I said, plus, maybe 747 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:21.400 team I would be minus. Yeah, And I think that. I think 748 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:27.239 the bat it was a fun basketball seas it was really fun. Another Pack 749 00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.519 ten tournament championship and all that stuff. You know, they crapped that one 750 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.480 game. But I think other than that, I think it was still really 751 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:38.800 good year for especially for basketball. Yeah. You know, if you could 752 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.239 have had more time, I wanted to ask Robbins, you know, how 753 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.079 are you gonna feel if the football team doesn't do as well this next year? 754 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.559 Because football is a quote unquote the fun porch. Well, you know, 755 00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.440 I mean, do you worry, you worry about how football is going 756 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.199 to go? Yeah? We do. Gotta go all right, We'll be 757 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:58.880 back. Greg Hanson coming up after after the first break and then breaking is 758 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:00.159 here at the top of the arm stick up