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welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve
Rivera. He's Jakins. Also got our guard Jason in Today. We're expecting
the big show and if you're expecting the President, doctor Robbins. Now at
three, we've been pushed back about fifteen minutes. Yeah, we push back
about fifteen minutes. We're still hoping to get him for the full half hour
that we were planning on, but it'll be a quarter after or right after
our first break, So hopefully you can stick around and uh, we'll ask
whatever. Well, I think we're all kind of in the same place because
what we want to know, right, everybody wants to know a lot of
stuff. I don't know how much of that we'll get, but we'll kind
of got an understand. You know where things are right now, run I'm
expecting, well what's your expect then we'll see what happened. Well, you
know, one things we want to talk about is that summit that they had
last weekend? What did they learn? Right? And what did they do
it? Why did they do it? And what did they learn? I
think that that was a big kind of a big thing of what we wanted
to talk about today, you know, and and why did not only why
did they do the summit, but why did the University of Arizona do this?
Yeah, that's another point. And then of course obviously the question everybody
wants to know about the movement or not much longer? Yes? Yes,
how much longer? So Jayen's last time you were tackled on a golf course?
Man, did you see that? That guy got driven down hard?
Was so bizarre? And then they did everything's okay, Yeah, you're okay.
Yeah, Well in the celebrate, you know, in the in the
moment of the celebration, you see the caddy go whoa, whoa, like
something. So I'm like, what's happening? And then then you saw it
later here's just my luck on this, Steve. So, I was watching
that playoff for all, watching the whole thing. I mean, every shot,
every shot, every shot, just before those guys come on to to
before he comes on hit the put run in to the bathroom, of course.
So I come out of my TV's on, I'm out hearing all the
screaming, and I'm like, he didn't make that. And I come around
the corner and they're celebrating. So I had had rewind it and rewatch it.
It's you know, it's just not the same when you're when you when
you're watching the record. So Jason, he asked me, should I bet
on Denver? This is exactly why. Yeah, everything he touches and doesn't
touch it, it gets effected. It's crazy, man, every time,
Like, yeah, I firmly believe that if I don't walk away from the
TV, he doesn't make that shot. Probably not. Yeah, you're the
butterfly effect. That was a hell of a thing. Seventy two feet Yeah,
you know, well, you know, I see, I saw the
highlights on that. And I talk about this with you all time because I
don't golf, but I do other things that you know require a momentum in
your world of momentum, but it's not momentum, it's going on a great
run. Because you know, you play you play basketball or whatever, you
go on great runs. Golf is specific if you're playing really well, you
have four days of great golf, and then we don't see you. It's
like the dude that one a month ago, or he finished really high in
the cometary guy. Yeah, we may never see him again, uh Michael
Block, Yeah right, we hadn't known who the he was. Okay,
he finished his fifteenth in the PGA Championship, and his next round of competitive
golf, he shoots in eighty one. Yeah right, I mean, and
we never hear from him. We probably want, and but golf is like
that where you just go on a stretch of four days where things cannot go
wrong and you're just just dude. You get just this dude called zone.
Yeah yeah, and it happens. It does happen. It happens in a
variety of levers for different things. But I think golf is one of them
where you just what happened today, I don't know, I just did shot.
I'm a firm believer in the zone as it relates to like golf.
I believe that basketball. I believe that, you know, baseball, a
guy gets into a hitting zone and just knocks the crap out of a period
of time and then stops all of a sudden it just stops and then it
goes see and that's why it's not momentum. It's just zone zone where things
cannot go wrong. It happens to be an other things and I'm thinking,
what just happened? What just happened? I'll take it because I guess what.
It doesn't last long. It doesn't last long. No, it doesn't.
It doesn't. So anyways, if you're expecting to hear doctor Robbins,
we are going to get him at a quarter after, so we'll stick around
for that. We'll keep chatting here. There's a lot of stuff going on
over the weekend, but doctor Robbins will be here worth short at the fifteen
after. He's a obviously a very busy guy. We felt fortunate just just
to get him. So yeah, we'll see. We've got lots of questions,
and then at four fifteen will have Greg Hanson. Right, we ask
Greg Hanson to aid to listen and then to come on with some immediate reaction
to anything that Doctor Robbins might might say. You know, when when when
when these guys come out and get interviewed and everybody starts, you know,
pays attention. I'm there's gonna be some people listening to our show who probably
don't listen to us every day because they want is he going to say something
that's newsworthy? So and we'll see. You know, he's a smart guy.
He'll say what he can and he won't say what he's not supposed to
say, you know, or maybe good lucky and say something he shouldn't.
You know again, man, I'm you know, well, well, yeah,
you know Da Barnes right, we'll our hat on that one. Did
she announced for pregnancy here? You know, we're open for people breaking big
games and we didn't asked the question. Jesus said, okay, no,
cool. So then the the the Nuggets playing to night. The Nuggets play
tonight. I think I think they'll close over. I think they'll close it
out. Yeah, it didn't want to go back to Miami. I mean,
it could very easy to go back to Miami. But it's over.
Yeah. The Nuggets are playing way too well. They're just there's too much
for the heat, Like I haven't watching these games and the heat have you
know the spurts where they look kind of good overall? Yeah, Nuggets,
I've just controlled every game part Yeah, no, it should be a good
game. It's been a fairly decent series outside of outside of a bad quarter
for Denver, they should have swept. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh
yeah, so they should have already be done. Yeah, because that one
bad quarter. Customed to the game. So we'll see what happens tonight.
A lot of things. The World Series is kind of official except for one
team. So right, yeah, play tonight, step with the other the
other one, dude, there's another series Tennessee and Mississippi Southern Missisouri. Okay,
did that one too, Stanford. I thought Stafford won it last night.
No, they were, they were down one. Oh, they had
to win. They're they're going, They're they're going. I think so they
won two, they won the they won the first. Just looked it up.
Well maybe that was Oregon Oregans out, Organs out. But I know
Stanford one last night, Stanford one last night, but thought they were down
one. Oh No, they played a night at Okay, I watched him
last night with the lanky dude. That's why that was such a big deal,
is that they had to win that one. And uh, you know
what, that makes sense because they didn't celebrate. They didn't celebrate anything.
That's odd. That's Stanford. They're not celebrating. And that picture Quinn Matthews
a senior. One hundred and fifty six pitches, but that doesn't include the
rust the other pitches he threw. Well, yeah, dude, you never,
you never, You never cut the worm up pitches, don't. No,
No, I'm talking about he was already kind of throwing a lot already.
I mean, yeah, he throw the forever, but one hundred and
fifty six pitches last night, you got yet people losing their minds. I'm
like, you know, you know who knows whether or not he can throw
one hundred fifty six pitches? Him he's the only one that knows. Yeah,
Twitter is going to all a guess because they should fire the manager,
fire the coach. And my son Adam is going, what's the big deal?
My dad had me throw one hundred and sixty eight one time and then
play shortstop in the second game of the double header. But you know,
and and honestly, in that game, I mean nothing, not that there's
any real comparison, but he throw a butch and we kept track of his
pitches. We had a chart we could track of pitches. Of course,
we only had room for one hundred and fifty. So but every inning that
he came in, I'm like, how are you doing? How are you
doing? Does your back hurt? Does your arm hurt? Your legs?
Okay? He kept saying, I'm good back, I'm good, I'm good
back in the day. And maybe that's where the tummy John stuff and all
that coming out now, But it was you. You threw until you couldn't.
Right, You don't put a little dirt on it? Yeah, you
know, I mean you have these you have these pitch counts in little leagues
and and and uh and high schools and stuff like that, you know,
to protect the kids. And and I think what it's done is it's it's
hurt you know, stamina and dirt. Bill. In fact, if you
high school coach here listening, just just because give us a quick call.
We had about that in the championship game. He had to take this guy
out because he had reached his pitch. And you don't have to identify yourself
if you don't want. But is it a bunch of crap or is it
true? Or do you have to take care of your pictures um accordingly because
they make you well, you know, I go all the way back to
um the run that uh that uh you have a had under Jay Johnson and
Bobby Dalbeck through a whole bunch of innings in that College World Series. People
were saying that they're they're wrecking his arm. Well, first of all,
he wasn't going to be a pitcher in the pros. That's the first thing.
So you know, and again it's the guy knows, you know,
he knows, and and and it's yeah, it's up to a trainer or
or a coach to kind of pay attention and not not let him hurt himself.
But a guy knows, I can, I've got more left in my
arm. And that's the only person that knows, right, right, right,
and uh, And so they moved to another game. Makes sense now
that they didn't celebrate. I thought that they didn't won it. They were
they were it was a two two game at one point, well they were
down to nothing and then came back, and then they came back and won
that games. Yeah, you know, I sat there and watch when I
when I saw on Twitter how many you know that people were putting up his
pitch, I was like, I gotta go see this. And the guy,
you know, did he look tired. Yeah he did. But you
know they say a lot of particularly he's a buck twenty and but particularly some
of these guys who throw a lot of off speed stuff and breaking when you're
more tired. It's when they say that you're more effective because you're not throwing
too hard and you're giving, you're letting your ball do what it needs to
do. And he doesn't throw gas. He just goes. He just throws
strikes, struck out sixteen. A great, incredible performance by him, went
for the ages. People talk about that for a long time. Win or
lose, they'll talk about it for a long time. Yeah, a lot
of things. A do you have breaking news of a stuff track? Okay,
I was gonna touch on on on the track situation, but okay,
coaches coming, you got going into this conversation, conversation we're gonna have with
Bobby Robins. I came across this thing just a little bit, just a
little bit before the show started. But you know, the Big Ten came
out with their football schedules for one, UCLA and USC jointed and only who
they play, not dates and times and all that stuff, but just who
everybody plays. So in of the existing of the existing Big Ten teams.
Somebody went and did the math of how many miles each team in the Big
Ten will travel in their Big Ten away games. So, I mean,
obviously, obviously ucln US You're gonna be number one and two because they're you
know, so far away. But so number three is Nebraska seven thousand miles
for away games. Number four is Iowa sixty six hundred miles. Number five
Ohio State sixty four hundred and sixty five hundred basically, and so on down
the line U UCLA, number one at USC sixteen thousand miles. So again,
number four is number three Nebraska seven thousand. So you USC is gonna
travel sixteen thousand miles for its road road pack up Big Ten games, with
one of those games being at UCLA where they're twenty miles away, and UCLA
a second at fifteen thousand and four hundred miles. I again, we talked
about this last weekend. I said, you know what, I guess we
won't know until we ask the kids to us. It's a long distance,
blah blah blah. But do the kids really care? I mean, they're
going, they're gonna play, And this is not so much about the big
guys. You're talking about my thing. I think the kids, and I
think the kids in track and tennis and uh and uh you know where water,
polo, volleyball, softball, even baseball. It's gonna matter to them.
Jackson the kid. Yeah, I was thinking about it. I mean
I would care because as a student athlete, they as you know, go
to clouds, do other things, not just like you know, play the
support it's right, So they asked, you know, conditioning yourself and then
you know treatment in bostil study and do homework and kind of one house,
some kind of wife as well. But if they're always just coming home really
early or late, I guess, and then having with a class and then
you know, treatments in a practice at we'll ask doctor doctor Robbins about this
too. Yeah, because obviously he's in the student. He's in the student
athlete right, not right, not athlete student type of thing. Right,
What it means? What this happening? And guess what it's gonna it's eventually
before your death, before mine, it's gonna happen. These teams are gonna
gonna be regional, Midwest, West, blah blah blah. They'll be going
they'll be going east somewhere. Yeah, for all these childs, but maybe
not as much obviously. I think at some point, I mean, the
common sense thing would be to regionalize, you know, college athletics one from
a cost dandpoint of course no, let me say you, Jay, we
talked about this two three years ago when COVID hit and teams are running out
of money millions into dent right, we said, don't you think this is
gonna curtail the trap because you can't spend all this money traveling all over the
country. Gets gotten worse, it's doors box is open even more. Yeah,
it's gotten a lot worse, you know, I mean again, and
you know again, and i'd like again, I'd like to think that you
USC and ucl A pencil to all of this out how much their travel is
going to cost for all the other sports and whatnot. And they still did
it. But you know, for those people who are saying, well,
they're you know, they're getting however, you know, eighty million dollars you
know as part of their contract. What's the net? Yeah, the net's
not what everybody thinks it is. Sure, Sure, I will know when
su all that comes out with for money and find acis do you think we
should go? I think we have. Let's take our break and hopefully,
uh, what is that that might be me? Oh, and hopefully doctor
Robins will be on the line when we come back. So let's go and
take our break. Right now, we'll wait for doctor Robbins to call in
and we'll spend some time talking about all these issues. So stick around.
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with Steve Rivera and Jacob Zalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome
back to Bying the Ball. Here Pop Sports fourteen. Cookie, I'm Steve
river He's jacs awesome. Now on the phone, we have doctor Robbins.
You know him, we know him. He's the ULA president. How are
you doctor I am doing well. Thanks for having me on your show.
To appreciate you joining us. We know you're such a busy guy, so
let's just get right. We wanted to talk about this that the U of
A hosted last week. It sounded like an important summit because as you were
talking to us off the air, everybody was there. The NCAA president,
he had media and athletic directors and presidents. Why was it important to do
this and why was it important for the U of A to do this?
Well, I think it's such an important part of any university, and we
have an embassy a center in DC that is focused on advancing the causes of
the university, and this is really important to the university, and so we
thought that we would use our opportunity in DC at a time where, for
instance, Gregg Sanky, the commissioner of the Southeastern Conference, was there with
Coach Saban walking the halls of Congress to talk about the future of college athletics.
We had Governor Charlie Baker, the former governor of Massachusetts who's the new
president of the NCAA. We had other commissioners, ads, coaches, members
of Congress. We we opened the night before the summit on Wednesday night with
a reception at the Capitol with lawmakers and and all the people who were coming
to the conference, and there were many people who couldn't be there who streamed
it live all around the world. We had students, we had collectives around
raising money for name image and likeness. We we had people from the media
that are leaders and spokespeople for college athletics. And the one thing we all
agreed upon is we understand the importance of college athletics and we love it,
and we wanted to have a discussion of which we will have a white paper
that will come out of that and be sort of a guideline for what we
can use to convince the US Congress to act, because you know, all
the states have different laws even to think about, uh you know, the
sec for instance, you know, several of their states have enacted laws that
would prohibit the nc double A from enforcing rules in those states. So I
think it was a really rich, in uh frank discussion about the current state
of college athletics and what are some things that we could potentially do with federal
legislation and other changes at the NCUBLEA to improve the health of college athletics.
You talked about that earlier, just the future of the athletics. It's changed
so much since you were an athlete. We've covered it for a little more
than three decades. It's it's not the it's not our father's NC double A
anymore. What do you think you're going ahead? I missed you. What
what do you think it's going to ahead? All positively? I hope,
yeah, I think so. You know, it's um, you know,
we learned from President Baker. They're over one hundred committees at the NC double
A and with you know, probably ten people per committee, and so that's
eighteen hundred people who are trying to guide the NC double A. And I'm
I'm really confident in Governor Baker's leadership. He was focused in on some uh
changes that will be made at the at the NC double A. UM,
you know, there was talk about federal legislation and even potentially having federal oversight
of college athletics, which, um, you know, it was an interesting
topic that I hadn't thought much about before this conference. So I think there
are a lot of changes that should be positive going forward to support our student
athletes, to make them uh not only successful in the the chosen sport that
they participate in, but most importantly for life after UH they leave our universities,
and there's uniformity and agreement on that. So you mentioned that there's going
to be a white paper coming out of this, out of this summit,
because I mean, the issues are still big, right, there aren't there
aren't any quick answers to anything. So how will all this information or this
discussion get used for there to be you know, some end result to this,
right, I mean you want you know, there's got to be decisions
made. There's got to be whether it's legislation or policies or whatever. In
the end, you got to get to something that's going to make all this
manageable, because it's really not manageable right now. Is that what was what's
supposed to happen out of this summit? Yes, that's it. And so
we talked about name, image and likeness. I think there's some quick focus
things that could be done there. We talked about um UH conference realignment,
we talked about the transfer portal. We talked about some of the major things
that are going on in the in the sector right now and what could be
focused upon I think what you're going to see the US Congress do is probably
start down a pathway of trying to codify some national UH guidelines around and laws
around name, image and likeness and things like that. So I my hope
is that the summer that the committees UH that in both the House and the
Senate, there there are some bills that are going to be proposed coming out
of the committees, and then you get a chance toward the end of the
summer to socialize those bills and get compromises, and then maybe by the fall
have the full Congress, both both sides of the House and the Senate,
and then ultimately, of course the President would sign some sort of legislation.
But I think that's probably going to be focused right now as a first step
on name, image and likeness. So, doctor Robinson, you were a
young man when we started talking about conference realignment. I feel like the girl
the lady on the Titanic. It's been eighty four years. When do you
think this is going to end finally be a resolved or will it conference realignment?
I think you've seen conference realignment over the lifetime of all three of us,
and there's probably going to continue to be movement around conference realignment. I
think right now, you know, the last entity to to try to stabilize
this for the time being is the PAC twelve and what and that's going to
hinge on what kind of media deal the PAC twelve gets and whether it's acceptable
to the ten remaining universities that are make up the PAC twelve. So last
week, let's let's go back to that, because last week there was a
bunch of media sources right saying that the PAC twelve had reached a grant of
rights, a verbal grant of rights agreement. You said that you hadn't hadn't
heard of one. Media is still saying even though Bobby Robin says it's not
there, they're still saying it is. We've had all this stuff, I
mean, first of all, just the all the speculation and guessing that's gone
on. That's had to drive you a little bit crazy. But how do
you get your arms around that and kind of how much can you tell us
about where things are right now? Yeah, I think that there there was
something lost in translation there when I was asked a question about the grant of
rights. No university is going to sign a grant of rights until the media
deal is in front of them. Okay, So yes, the PAC twelve
put out a statement and it is the fact. It is true that we
have all ten verbally agreed that if the deal is acceptable to each one of
our universities, then we will sign the grant of rights. So that we
have to wait to see what the deal is and you have to go down
and do a roll call. Arizona yes or no, you know, Arizona
State, yes or no, Stanford University, yes or no, and we
all want to stay together. My prediction is that we all will stay together,
even though there are a lot of speculation about some of the schools in
our conference leaving. I think if we all get a deal that we think
is is a creative to our universities, will sign those grants of rights and
we'll be happy and we'll stay together. Okay. One of the things that's
been hanging out there, and again we're speculating again if the deal didn't come
through to Arizona satisfaction. You were looking for a place, you know,
I grew up in I grew up in Arizona. The idea of Arizona and
Arizona State splitting up in some form, you know, going back to when
Arizona and ASU went into what was the Pack eight at the time, and
ASU went in kicking and screaming they did not want to go. Arizona wanted
to go, and the legislation in the region's basically said, too bad,
you're going. What's I feel it seems like that's changed, that they're you
know, you guys aren't hooked to each other like we thought you were,
or like you have been in the past. Well, I think I think,
you know, if you look at the you know, tragedies of A
and M and UT splitting up. Now they're they're coming back together again.
They're getting the band back together down there in Texas in the SEC conference.
So I'm confident that President Crew and I are aligned, uh and we'll do
the best for our universities and the two of us will be aligned. This
must take a lot of your time, just the non academic side of it.
It does, it does, you know, as they always talk about,
it's the it's the medical enterprise in athletics that consumes so much of your
time as a as a university president. Um. But I'm I'm hopeful that
we're going to see some changes around these major issues in the transfer portal in
IL and conference realignment, and the conference realignment UM rests on the media deal
that we can we can get. Are we gonna like what college athletics becomes
after this? I mean, you know, you you and Steve and I
we you know, we were you know with the old Nebraska Oklahoma game in
USC and UCLA and all of that stuff that we grew up with. And
we love college athletics because of the tradition and all that kind of stuff,
and that's kind of like that does all that stuff doesn't even matter anymore.
So those of us in the time that we have left, are we gonna
like what especially college football looks like down the road? Is it still going
to be as fun for us and you know, as big a part of
our lives as it always was? Yeah? I think so, I'm confident
about that. I think, you know, their their evolutions that go on
in every part of the society. And you know, we've got the College
Football Playoff coming around, and you know, you get you get a twelfth
teen tournament and you know, I don't know that I'll ever get in in
Division two and three? Do this already? UM? Even the you know,
the one uh one double A schools have a playoff, and so I
think that's gonna energize the sport the call college football landscape, uh and the
and that's going to be here before you know it. And I think you're
going to see renewed excitement about, you know, having a twelve team playoff.
I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Um, just
maybe a couple of good questions before you leave, you have to travel stuff.
I don't know if you want to say, but let me ask him.
As we finished the school year, finally, baseball, everything's done.
How do you review the the athletic department in terms of how it did this
year? Football, basketball, all that stuff. Yeah, I think I
think every in every aspect, all of our teams, whether it be golf
or tennis, or swimming and diving, women's basketball, uh, men's basketball,
college football, we're all collectively moving in the right direction. Um.
You know, as I always say, I want every one of our teams
at the start of the year to have their goal of winning in national championship.
And well, let's have a winning season and then let's compete for conference
championship and then go on for national championships. Obviously, coach Lloyd had another
phenomenal year. And I think that all of our sports are looking in a
positive direction into the future. And I think that if you just go and
look down one by one, we're going in the right direction and almost every
sport. Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you kind of a weird
question because I'm a little bit of a degenerate like this. I I you
know, with ucln USC leaving, I'm I'm still pretty pretty upset with those
guys, and so I'm kind of like hoping that this is really hard on
them. And that's again, that's just way, that's just the way my
brain works. But a thing came out today where somebody did the math on
how much travel USC and UCLA are just going to have to do in football
compared to the other Big Ten schools, and for both of them, it's
more than double the travel for their Big Ten games. I mean, did
you ever feel like they didn't think hard enough about this or and how much
how hard is that going to be on on the athletes and not just football
and basketball, but everybody else. You know, do you do you think
about that at all. Oh yeah, of course. And you know,
I'm not angry about it. I understand the reasons why they did it.
It was for money and uh uh and the the toll that is going to
be uh given to the uh the athletes, the coaches, the staffs,
and the finances of how much it's going to cost to do all the travel
and support. UM. I think it's gonna be an unintended consequence, but
it's gonna be a reality, and I just I hate to see it.
I think you know, if you talk about, um, you know,
merging the PAC twelve with the Big twelve and the ACC to create the real
super conference, UM, you would have to have divisions and you would play
some you know, think of it as the NFL. You play most of
her if you're in the a FL East, you play mostly on the East
Coast. But then occasionally you go and you play a game or two out
of conference or out of your division. And that that is being lost with
this now big ten uh um arrangement that's been made with USC in UCLA.
I hate it. I know you're not mad. I'm still mad. Yeah,
I hate it too. I'm so disappointed because, UM, UCLA in
USC I just hate we're not going to be having the UCLA Arizona, um,
you know home in the Way series, that all the other things that
that in the Rose Bowl is not going to be the same. It's just
very very heartbreaking. Well one quick thing, doctor two, is that modulations
the bat men's basketball schedule is fantastic for this coming year. Yeah, finally,
good. Okay, we're looking for that, looking forward to that,
right, Okay, Well doctor Robbins, Um, well, you know,
just keep it churning. We know you guys will have a deal at some
point, and hopefully it's a good one because I can't take another eighty four
years. I want to stay in the back. I really really do.
And I think all of our school will say the same thing. Yeah,
okay, thank you, doc. We appreciate it. Okay, thank you
so much. Yeah, we couldn't get him longer than that. He's rushing
to another meeting. Yea. Um, but you know, look, you
know, well I'm glad that he hates it. I know he's not rooting
against him, because I'm I'm just that kind of a guy who is.
But his temperament and mean, I know we've got to go is that I
think, and you can only read between the lines, right, that it's
gonna stay together. Yeah for a while, at least for a while,
at least for a while, at least for a while until there's a better
idea. Yeah right, I was just under the circumstances what we have now.
I just rather all together because it is so different, and I know
times of change, and I don't, you know, hate I hate the
internet, blah blah blah, but that's where we're gonna be watching game.
Eventually everything slepped going to the internet or streaming or whatever it is. Didn't
you say ESPN is doing the same thing now with gonna separate itself from TBE.
They're gonna, yeah, they're gonna go off the linear one hundred percent
streaming at some point. The different world for us, Steve, No,
I know. The thing is that we're still alive, and we got to
deal with it. The BTC alternative. All right, let's go and take
our break and we'll react to some more of that when we get back.
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whatever you want. Um, you've got a couple of text you good interviews.
Yeah, you know, I just I don't. I don't know what
to come of it because I don't know what he's said. Well, one
thing I did learn, and because I've been sitting here wondering why why are
they going to leave nil in the hands of the federal governments? And and
and what he explained was that all these other states are coming up with their
own laws. So it makes sense. You know, the NCAABAA didn't do
it, so the states decided to do it, and they're doing it,
and every state it hasn't that's doing it has done it differently from the others.
Yeah, so you know, they got to corral that and and it
kind of sounds like they're really counting on the federal government to do that,
which is why they did that summit last week. Well last week, did
you see the i RS got involved too? Well, they r s saying
yeah, that that donors that the donations to collectives cannot be tax deductible,
you know. So again there's all the stuff swirling, which I guess,
you know, it was kind of obvious, right, the federal government has
to step in and do this because everyybody's doing it on their own and it's
piecemeal and it's creating more chaos instead of less. All right, you just
think it's a it's a it's a big bag of craziness. Yeah, And
depends where you're at, it's your benefiting or not benefiting. Now. I
wanted to ask him too, because we have the Geist stuff and that just
strikes me so much. We talked about it with a few people. Here's
a guy who's fantastically celebrated but not celebrated financially. Well, you know,
we maybe we can get one of the you know, one of the collectives
guys on to talk about that's how do you get money to a guy like
Jordan Geist? Yeah? Right, well, let's sound well because I actually
sent him a note today the adamazars yea from from Yeah, you know,
how does how does how does someone like Jordan Guist who's as as still and
Delaney Chanelle who has accomplished as any athlete that's at the University of Arizona right
now. How do they get some of that? Yeah, deservedly? So
they should. Yeah, they should because not only are they you know,
champions, but they're bringing a lot of a lot of prestige to the University
of Arizona, you know, I mean they're they're you know, I'm sure
the recruiting, you know, for in both of those sports is a little
bit better because of what they've done. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's
called Hi, you're on the air and I on the ball. How you
doing today? What's that Brian? Well, I heard the interview. It
was very good. There was one thing that I kind of was surprised about
what he said. You mentioned about when they get the agreement or whatever it's
gonna be or yeah, that they're gonna need all ten to vote for it.
Well they said it doesn't have to be a unanimous I don't think,
but well that's what he said. He said all ten of them had to
and and I'm sitting there going, Okay, we're looking at the wild card
in this whole thing. It's gotta be Colorado. Well, I think that
Arizona is a wild card too without saying it, because because you know,
if you're Arizona, if you're Arizona and Colorado and there and there's a sneaky
chance to leave, aren't you gonna leave? You know? To me,
um, the way the Big twelve Arizona goes there in Colorado, the way
the Big twelve is built is just so much better than whatever the PAC twelve
could possibly be if they add San Diego State in some other wildcard team.
Well, you know, that's the funny thing, because I think Jay harped
on this. Given the choice, Jay and correct me if I'm wrong,
you want to stay, Yeah, you want to stay. But but Bryan,
it's not as which is sexier the PAC twelve as it would be,
or the Big twelve as it would be. The Big twelve by far,
I mean, and I understand Jay's point of view, But if we're not
going to have UCLA and USA is not the PAC twelve, right, I
agree totally, Agreen, And it's to me, it's just it's just it
could be the Whack, it could be the Mountain West. It's basically the
same thing, you know, because I just don't I just can't see Oregon
in Washington also because there had been talk about them wanting a larger portion of
the pie than the other schools. And if if that, if they don't
get if it's all an equal amount, I don't think Oregon and Washington would
want to be in that. They'll say, okay, let's push to go
to the Big ten. Then well. The thing, the thing I believe
though, Brian, is that, um, whatever happens, you know,
if azone that stays in the PAC twelve, it's temporary. All of this.
I think all of this is going to get restructured totally. But it's
the win. It's still win, and it's probably you know, five years
down the road, five years number, five years after the new contracts go
into effect next year. So I think that it's it's it's temporary and at
some point and in that time, you know, the schools have to get
their stuff together, have to you know, get them all in a room
and nobody comes out until you have a thing done that you realign the whole
damn thing in a way that makes sense, because right now it makes zero
sense. Oklahoma and Texas do not be long in the SEC. They do
not be long playing in the South right, Uh right, us USC and
UCLA do not be long playing in the Midwest. Uh, you know,
West Virginia shouldn't be playing, you know, in the You know, it's
got to get organized. And I don't know how they'll ever do it because
money is running everything and they're just going to do whatever makes them the most
money, right, you know. And I look at this, so I'm
going I just can't understand how Arizona could stay in the back ten and and
consider themselves a viable athletic program staying it, you know, especially for football,
because they'll have a basketball Basketball can run its own. Yeah, they'll
have a better but Brian, basically baseball and softball. But football is the
money generator, and they got to figure out a way to get more money.
Well, school, if they're getting if they're getting about the same amount
of money as they would be getting in the Big twelve, then you want
to stay in the Pack twelve because one, you get the same amount of
money in two your road, it's all about getting into the into the college
football Playoff. I like Arizona's chances of getting in the playoff from the Pac
twelve then from the Big twelve. Right, And also your expenses would not
be as high, right, you don't want to be traveling to West Virginia,
you know, or wherever you know. And also also one thing also
he brought up about, you know, Congress getting involved in all this stuff.
And until they figure out, I'm not so much worried about the nil
because they're gonna pay whatever they pay, you know, and I don't care
about that. We're gonna put a limit. They're not gonna be able to
put a cap on this. They've already opened Pandora's box. And that's just
the way it's going to be. But the thing they've got this strands,
they've got it straight out as the transport portal that you know, this can't
have kids, you know, like every year transferring or there's got to be
a select period of time after a season is over, and that's it.
You can't transfer after that, let's say sixty ninety days after the season's over.
Once that's done, it's done. Well, that's that's not gonna get
fixed in Congress. The NC double's got to fix that, right, But
the NC double A is just pushing it off on everybody else. They don't
want to. They don't want to solve any of these problems. You know,
they don't seem really care too much about what happens. And probably five
years we want to have an NC DOUABA anyway, right, you're right.
May it may just be a minor league, a football program. I just
it's gonna be a power five whatever conferences, and that's going to be it.
Yeah, yeah, Okay. To your question about the vote for the
TV deal and grant of rights, I sent John Wilner, who knows everything
about all this stuff. Um, he said it has to be a supermajority,
but not unanimous. He said eight out of ten. I think that
still may be tough. If you know, that may be tough if Colorado
is playing both sides here. Yeah, well, you know what I say,
anybody who votes against it, just get the hell out of here.
Eight out of ten, No, that is gonna be tough. Yeah,
but you know, my problem is replacing usc UCLA with San Diego State,
which had a couple of good football years, a couple and a couple of
good basketball years, and that's about it. And then somebody else who're trying
to pick out of the air, and that's not going to make this conference
attractive. Yeah, it just got to be good enough. Thank you,
Thanks, thank you, Brian. Okay, yeah, no, I understand
that one hundred percent. You're not. You're not going to replace and UCLA
and USC with somebody, anybody. They're equal, you're not. But if
all you know, all other things are equal, I'd just rather stay where
we are. I get it. You're a lover, a lover of the
familiar. Yeah, and that's that's not a sham. There's you shouldn't be
no shame in that. Football wise, it's it's not a it's a wash,
so wash. Maybe for basketball it's a major benefit. Dude. I'm
one of those guys that goes to a restaurant in orders the same thing You've
lived all your life. So I get it. I get it. It's
costability. I get this every time. But pretty much, whatever restaurant it
is, I mean, if I, if I, if I, if
I, if I stray, it's not by much, right. Could you
take off the rice? Please? Could you put in one of those little
cafeteria of trays. Everything in his little corner, don't touch, don't we'll
see. I mean who we are. June fifteenth, June twelfth, whatever
it is, we said by the end of the month, kind of my
self imposed deadline, because this deadline has gone on eleven months. Yeah,
it's gone on forever. But it's funny. I was listening to Wilner's podcast
and he goes with John Kanzano, and they were both talking about They said
it was going to be, you know, at the beginning of November,
and then the end of November, then by Christmas, and then by March,
and then by you know, and now here we are in June,
and neither one of them would commit to anything. And they said, don't
be surprised if this goes into July. Who was about you lost to me
in August? Oh, I said he was gonna be August. I know,
it was like two weeks after the place, because I thought there was
gonna be some urgency to this damn thing, and there hasn't been, and
there hasn't been, but I you know it to me again, it's it's
the unknown. It's once it's settled and we know what we got, I'll
be okay with wherever it wherever it lands. Just get it done. Just
just let's just get this done so we can talk about you know, what
this is going to be like as opposed to guessing what it's gonna you know,
what what it's gonna be, because we just we don't know. I
you know, I don't know Robert's Look, he's he's a cool, calm
and collected guy, right, he's he's a heart surgeon, so he's you
know. Somebody said, like, you're not gonna make him nervous, right,
So I think he's he you know, but from the sounds of it,
he sounds confident that, you know, he doesn't sound generate at all
about what we're going to the Big twelve or something. I don't think it's
a it's a big concern. If they do, they do, if they
don't, Like I said, you you guys who want to know, I
want to know now eventually, just tell me where the bus ticket is and
we'll get on the bus. Yeah, but it's just I want to go
know where I'm going, that's all. Yeah, you know, make a
reservation at the hotel. I don't want to get on the bus until in
or it's going, right and I want the bus to like tell me right
now where it's going. And ain't gonna tell you now. It's gonna not
even gonn tell you the price of a ticket. Yeah, that's for sure.
We'll see. Okay, so we're gonna have a Greg on the other
side talking more about this and see what else is going on. Uh.
He didn't say much about the school year. School year? How would you
rate the school year? I know, we don't have like a UM,
it's a bizarre it's like a C plus. I'm I'm more in the B
maybe a B minus um B or straight B or B managed because the basketball
team did great, even though they pissed away the NCAA women football. The
football team was you know, it was much better. Um, women's basketball,
you know, kind of held their own, didn't do didn't do great.
You know, obviously baseball and softball were well. Baseball wasn't a total
disappointment. They got into the NC double as softball was. I was like,
what the hell? But you know, there were a lot of factors
there too, you know, to two of their best players leaving at the
last minute and stuff like that. So, um, I'm more in the
B or B minus range even B overall. Yeah, you know, tracted
well, Tennis did well. Tennis did well. There was off did well.
So there was some other sports. As I said, plus, maybe
team I would be minus. Yeah, And I think that. I think
the bat it was a fun basketball seas it was really fun. Another Pack
ten tournament championship and all that stuff. You know, they crapped that one
game. But I think other than that, I think it was still really
good year for especially for basketball. Yeah. You know, if you could
have had more time, I wanted to ask Robbins, you know, how
are you gonna feel if the football team doesn't do as well this next year?
Because football is a quote unquote the fun porch. Well, you know,
I mean, do you worry, you worry about how football is going
to go? Yeah? We do. Gotta go all right, We'll be
back. Greg Hanson coming up after after the first break and then breaking is
here at the top of the arm stick up