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Welcome to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosen
House along with you from Toronto this weekend

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where the Guardians are taking on the
Blue Jays and a three game weekend series

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that started on an upbeat note on
Friday night. They'll play again Saturday afternoon

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at three seven and one more time
on Sunday afternoon at one thirty seven to

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wrap up what has been a three
city road trip that has gone well so

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far, the Guardians winners of four
of the six games played to this point.

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Coming up in just a little bit
on our show. The second half

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of our show, we'll hear from
Senior Vice President Bob Dibiasio another edition of

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at the Ballpark with Bobby d.
Also a minor league report with farm director

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Robserfolio, and we'll talk outfield play, which has been a strong suit for

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this ball club with outfield coach JT. McGuire. But first our weekend review

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as we begin after Monday's off day
with Tuesday night's game in Cincinnati, where

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the Guardians were taking on the Reds
for the first time this season, and

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the Reds jumped in front with a
run in the first inning, and it

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would have been even more if not
for some stellar defense from center fiet Tyler

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Freeman. Here comes as two to
one to Spencer Steer, swung on and

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there's a high fly ball to deep
center back on it's Freeman. He's at

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the wall, he leaps and he
made the catch at the fence. Back

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to second as Candelario. Tyler Freeman
does it again. A great play in

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center won and won the count on
Frehley. Here's the pitch and that swung

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on and lifted high in the air. This one to deep right center.

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Moving back, Freeman leaps at the
wall and he made another catch, and

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this one may have saved a home
run. What an inning for Tyler Freeman

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defensively, and he did save a
home run. Oh man. We head

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to the bottom half of the first
inning. It is still only one nothing

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Cincinnati, thanks to Tyler Freeman that
kept it reasonable and the Guardians offense got

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to work. In the third inning, a walk to Brian Rochio and a

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bow Naylor double set the table for
Stephen Kuan. Here it comes from Martinez,

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swung on ground ball third base,
past the third baseman, down the

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left field line. It scores one
and two. Here comes Naylor with the

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second run and the Guardians take the
lead two to one. And the wizardry

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of Stephen Quan at the plate continues
as he's in at second base with a

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two run double. Later in the
inning, Josh Naylor drove home another run.

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Here's the pitch to Naylor. There
goes the runner and the pitches grounded

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through the right side base It that
will score Quan from third into third,

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goes Freeman, and Naylor comes through
with an RBI single to make it three

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to one. Guardians and those fans
who have come down from Cleveland making themselves

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heard here in Cincinnati. The Reds
pulled to within one with a run in

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the sixth, but the Guardians got
that run right back in the eighth inning

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with Naylor leading things off. Josh
Naylor leads it off eighth inning and his

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first pitch, swinging, drives one
high and deep right field way on out

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of here bout run Josh Naylor,
seventeenth on the year for Nailer a mammoth

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blast and the Guardians now lead it
four to two. Then in the top

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half of the ninth inning, Josh
Naylor's big RBI night continued. He one

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swung on ground ball first base side
sliding stop by Steer, throws to second

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for one, back to first,
not in time. Safe at first is

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Nailer. That allows his brother Bo
to score from third and the Guardians had

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a run. It's now five to
two Cleveland. The Reds did scratching cloth

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for a rare runoff of Emmanuel Classe
the bottom half of the ninth inning that

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made it five to three. But
in the end the lead was plenty for

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class A to nail down another save. Here's his pitch and it swung online

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to short, caught by a Rocchio
and the Guardians hang on for the win.

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Whoo. The final score five to
three, so a nice win for

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the Guardians to open the Cincinnati series. The Reds bounced back and they won

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the finale of the brief two game
series four to two on Wednesday night.

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After an off day Thursday, it
was on to Toronto for the Guardians and

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they opened a three game series on
Friday night. Impressive again. They got

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the scoring started in the second inning
with back to back doubles, first from

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Will Brennan, then from Daniel Schnemann
Schneeman, another versatile player in center field

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tonight at the plate since being called
up five for fourteen. The pitch to

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him and he swings and drills it
to left center that gets down for a

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base head and it sneaks on through, scoring Is Brennan into second, is

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Schneeman and the Guardians take the early
lead at one nothing. In the fourth,

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the Guardians added onto that lead thanks
to Will Brennan. Here's his pitch

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and it's swung on and blasted high
and deep to left. Has a chance

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home run well Brennau into the bullpen
opposite field to nothing Cleveland. Good power

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the opposite way by Brennan, which
we haven't seen a whole lot of that,

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but that has to be encouraging for
him to know that he can take

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a picture deep the opposite way.
And they were back at it. In

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the fifth, Brian Rochio with a
lead off double and then Andres Jimenez delivered

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the one to zero. Is drilled
through the right side of base, it

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headed for third being waved around is
Rochio. Here's the throw up the line

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Rochio's safe throw back to first,
diving back in his Himene and his base

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hit drives in Brian Rocchio and the
Guardians now lead it three nothing. Then

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on the mound, Logan Allen,
for a second consecutive outing, was turning

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in a solid start. Here's Logan
Allen's payoff pitch. Justin Turner grounds it

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to the shortstop, Rochio to second
for one on the first double play and

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with one pitch, Allen's out of
the inning again the second time tonight.

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That his infielders have turned two and
we'll head to the fifth and this his

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back to back strong starts for the
lefty. The three to two swung on

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popped him up third base side.
Hosey's there and Ramirez makes the catch and

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it's another good inning for Logan Allen. Five complete in Toronto, it's the

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Guardians three, the Blue Jays nothing. Toronto did pick up a run in

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the sixth off of Allen, but
coming out of the Guardian's bullpen, Kate

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Smith tried to keep that lead at
two runs, two outs. Runner at

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first, the one to two pick
swung on a high chopper to second,

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hauled in by Jimenez. Time to
throw and he gets him at first base.

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Great work by Kate Smith. Again
we head to the seventh, it's

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the Guardians three, the Blue Jays
one. I What a special night for

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Smith as he was pitching in his
home country for the first time, and

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that's a big deal. He was
part of the national team, the World

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Baseball Classic team and now in the
major leagues for the first time, pitching

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in Toronto. Following Smith out of
the pen, it was Scott Barlow,

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Sam Henches and Hunter Gaddis. They
kept the Blue Jays off the board in

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the seventh and eighth innings before turning
it over to Emmanuel class A in the

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night. Here's the one swung on
ground ball to the second baseman they sought

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to do it. Jim Enez has
it, throws to first and the Guardians

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take the opener of this three game
series, winning tonight here in Toronto.

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So a nice win to open the
series for the Guardians on Friday night at

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the Rochet Center. And we mentioned
Kate Smith being able to pitch in his

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home country for the first time at
the Rogers Center in his rookie Major league

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season and how special that was for
him. For the Naylor Brothers Josh and

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Bo. Well, they're playing at
the Rogers Center, which isn't too far

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from their hometown of Mississauga, Ontario, and we had a chance to catch

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up with Bow before the game.
He's played here before in his rookie season

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a year ago, but he talked
about it before the game on Friday,

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what it means to come back to
Canada and play in his home country.

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I feel like it's so special because
of you know, how deeply it's ingrained

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in the culture that we have here. I mean, you know, when

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people are here for baseball, it's
it runs deep, you know, so

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you know, just to kind of
understand how invested everyone is in this sport,

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in the team that they support,
it's I feel like it's super special.

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And so, you know, to
be able to play on the field

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against that team, you know,
with my brother surrounded by you know a

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lot of the people that have been
there throughout the years to support us,

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it just makes the moment that much
greater. And along those lines, you

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were pointing out a special game that
you were at that I think Cleveland fans

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remember and always well for a long
long time, not from the postseason in

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sixteen, but regular season in sixteen
Philloson, Yeah, it was, you

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know, just what we thought was
going to be, you know, your

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your average Blue Jay game. One
of the parents on our club I think

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I was around like thirteen fourteen,
maybe got us some tickets to the game.

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We were in the box and you
know, it just came to enjoy

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and it turned out to be one
of the longest games I think, And

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it might have been blue Jay history, I think all history. But what

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was like sixteen innings nineteen Oh my
gosh. Yeah, yeah, so you

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know we stuck it through for all
nineteen of those innings. It was amazing,

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definitely something I can't forget. And
when you look at coming back this

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time around, you've been grinding it
to get it going this season and get

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yourself to a good place, and
I know certain spots your game are coming

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along quicker than others. Helpful to
be back home where you feel good and

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have a chance to see some family
and be so grounded as I know you

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guys are. Yeah, without a
doubt, we I feel like in this

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clubhouse, you know, we're very
supportive with each other. We always you

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know, want to make sure that
everyone feels comfortable and understands that you know,

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this is it's a long game.
Honestly, you know, we have

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so many months in this game,
so you know, understanding that you know,

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you can't you know, let certain
individual days get to you. Just

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understand that it's a process and you
know, as time goes by, as

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long as you're trending in the right
direction, things are going to turn out

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to be good, especially when you're
playing the game the right way. And

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I feel like, you know,
as a recent that's kind of been the

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trend for me, and you know, every opportunity I get to be out

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there is super special. But yeah, being being back home kind of you

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know, release some of the nerves
a little bit, playing in front of

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my family. Just understanding that,
you know, this is a moment to

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be grateful for. I know you
mentioned earlier good vibes going back to Mississauga

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and hopefully some good vibes this weekend. Thanks, thank you appreciate it.

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That's Bou Naylor with a special night
Friday night, along with Josh Naylor and

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Kate Smith, three members natives of
Canada getting to play in their home country

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at the Rogers Center. Stay with
us, we'll talk outfield play with J.

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T McQuire, the Guardian's outfield coach. When we come back after this

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last year's r V trip, we've
met a couple with the same bumper sticker.

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a good storyteller? He was a

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die dress or was it a pharmacist? Huh? You know, I can't

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remember. But she owns an RV
protected by progressive and you don't so until

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you get your own RV. Her
stories are the most interesting stories you've ever

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heard. Wow. Interesting. And
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save money by bundling it with your
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Oh, anesthesiologist. He was an
anesthesiologist. Changerments coming up. We had

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another interurist, not availd in mind
estates now the one one pitch a swing

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in another lazy fly shallow center.
It is dropping diving freeman beat a catch

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and there's a run saver at least
one run. Who knows how many more

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would have scored this seting on a
blooper to center. That freeman charged it

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at the last moment. Dove made
a diving, tumbling then rolling catch and

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hung on. Welcome back to Guardians
Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse along with you from

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the Rogers Center in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, where the Guardians are playing

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the Blue Jays this weekend. They
won the opener Friday night three to one.

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Earlier in the week they were down
in Cincinnati to play the Reds and

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it was defense galore for the Guardians, particularly Tyler Freeman, who had a

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huge night defensively on Tuesday night with
two unbelievable grabs in center field and fair

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in mind field is not his natural
position. He was an infielder really the

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entire time prior to this offseason,
but the organization asked him to make a

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change. He worked hard with JT
McGuire, the outfield coach for the Guardians,

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to make that transition, and it
certainly has been a smooth transition for

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Tyler Freeman. We caught up with
J. T McGuire and talked to him

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about Freeman and others, but particularly
Freeman and how quickly he's adapted to a

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new position. I mean, I've
been coaching for probably fifteen years now,

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and this is definitely the biggest project
that I've encountered. Not because Tyler is

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not a good baseball player by any
means it's because he's played infield all of

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his life and he's trying to make
the transition of playing center field in the

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major leagues. So that's a tall
task for anybody. But you know,

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he's tackling it head on, and
any information that I can give him,

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you know, he's soaking it in. Luckily, I've got guys that have

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played the outfield for an extended period
of time, like Will Brennan and Stephen

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Kwan who can give him tips throughout
the game and throughout practices as well.

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So he's getting it from all angles, not just myself, he's getting it

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from the players as well. He
is there one or two things that have

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really enabled him to pick it up
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maybe even before that. I don't
know if I can pinpoint anything specifically.

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You know, he just has a
knack for finding the baseball anyway. You

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know, being an infielder, he
was always getting dirty. He was always

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you know, making tremendous plays on
the dirt, and then kind of transition

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into how he plays the outfield.
I mean he attacks everything aggressively. He

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has good anticipation on you know,
where balls are going to be hit,

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and then he just like I said, his instincts take over and he just

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goes and gets the baseball. And
he was saying prior to Tuesday night's game

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that you've been working on him on
going back to his left, and sure

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enough, both both great catches were
involving that going back to the wall to

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his left. How do you identify
that and what are some of the indicators

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that you get that say, hey, this is an area you need to

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work on. Well, we're super
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the kind of the behind the scenes
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weaknesses. And right now I would
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but it's part of his weakness is
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his right. So in work prior
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we're doing individualized work, that's our
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left and in into his right.
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we were working on it yesterday before
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panned out. So he's the new
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there and Steven Kond how different is
the work with him to keep him in

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a good spot as opposed to getting
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special person and a player, so
he's not the type where you know,

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he'll let you know that he won
gold. So anything that we throw out

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there, he's he's right in the
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great from a standpoint of, you
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out there with me because if i'm
if I'm, I can prep Kwannie prior

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to the day and say, hey, this is this is the area of

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focus that we want to work on. It's kind of tailored towards Free.

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Do you mind going out there and
being a player coach almost and and he

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has taken that, you know,
to harden And one of his strengths right

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now is is being a good leader. And he takes that leadership and he

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and he helps out Free with that. So it's been it's been incredible.

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Well, it has been fun to
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outfielders like Tyler Freeman among others.
The j T great work. Thanks a

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lot for coming by, Appreciate it. Appreciate your ros A's outfield coach j

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T MC talking specifically about Tyler Freeman, but others as well as the Guardians

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outfielders have certainly been a plus defensively
for this ball club. Stay with us.

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We'll have more to come as we
continue from Toronto after this. Welcome

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back to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhause
back with you from the Rogers Center in

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Great
to have you with us for Baseball Talk

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on the radio. You can hear
our show each week on the Guardians Radio

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Network and in Cleveland and surrounding areas
on our flagship station WTAM that means seven

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am every Saturday. You can also
hear it on different radio network affiliates as

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well as in podcast for wherever you
download your favorite podcasts. Rob Sorfolio is

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The Guardian's director of player Development,
and on this week's Farm Report, we

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caught up with Rob just after a
recent trip to the Dominican Republic to see

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some of the youngest players in the
entire organization, and Rob fills us in

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on the purpose of his visit as
their season in the DR is now getting

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underway. For the fans that maybe
don't have as much visibility into what happens

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down there, it's really the first
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a better analogy of our baseball school, and you know, we have an

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entire department of international scouts led by
Richard Conway and in several others that spend

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days, hours, years recruiting scouting
really young players across all of Venezuela,

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the Dominican Republic, Columbia. And
then when we sign those guys, they

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matriculate into our academy and this is
the time of year when when those guys

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start to play for the first time. So unlike our full season affiliates that

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start in April, these guys don't
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almost like two months behind the cadence
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Akron or Lake County or Columbus or
wherever. So their spring training just finished.

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And that was kind of the point
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was to go down there and really
see a lot of these players, you

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know, playing full games for the
first time. So we have some players

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that are our guys that have been
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and then there's a large group of
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it was just an opportunity to see
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like interact with our coaching staff that
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live down there year round. We
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for the season, whether they're American
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it was just to you know,
help get our ducks in a row for

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the start of the season. And
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is like setting rosters and we have
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seventy players, so we had to
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more so than anything in mind,
just opportunity to see those guys, help

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support the players and staff with their
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and make sure that we were ready
to rock. Rob. You mentioned some

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of the new players and some as
young as sixteen, which would put them

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in high school if they were in
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field or off the field that you
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speed in Yeah, I mean it's
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So these guys sign at sixteen,
most of them are playing as seventeen year

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olds. Eighteen year olds for some
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like watching you know, high school
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our training period that goes on before
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the rest of their days is really
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becoming bigger, stronger, faster in
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agility field, just to like really
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we think are really important for major
leaguers down the line. And then so

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much work goes into these guys from
a classroom standpoint, so that that could

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be you know, baseball and reviewing
what they did in the games, or

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preparing for the next day with our
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or life skills, and trying to
just like prepare these guys to be you

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know, productive citizens, whether that's
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to the States. So trying to
prepare these guys, and their schedule really

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runs from eight am to about three
pm because of how many things, you

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know, we're trying to do with
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big credit goes to our education,
our life skills department. You know Ali

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Airs who lives down in the dr
and and really really runs organizes, you

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know, the majority of these efforts
in person every day, and I know

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our players are a lot better because
of it. And just for a perspective

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one point in time, a while
ago, now, Jose Ramirez was one

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of those youngsters just getting started at
that age. So there's your perspective.

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Who knows, maybe the next one
is down there right now, and we'll

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see him down the road. Rob
Sorfolio joining us. It's the weekly farm

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Report. He's the director of player
development for the Guardians. And Robbie hads

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some movement in the system recently,
some players moving up from Single A Lake

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County to the Double A level.
And I don't know we should lump these

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two guys together, but man,
their numbers were off the charts at Lake

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County. C J. Kaphis and
Nate Furman, And what have they done

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to really improve their stock here as
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you know we can. We can
start with Firman just because he's in

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a second year with us, and
obviously firm did a lot of really good

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things last year to prepare himself for
for what we saw in Lake County,

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and that began with you know,
him really kicking off his pro career in

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Lynchburg this time last year, and
quite frankly, he dominated that level,

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and we challenged him in Lake County
and and he had some struggles for probably

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the first time in his life as
a hitter. And part of our discussions

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the end of last year and and
right at the end of season was was

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really to try and challenge firm to
you know, kind of take the next

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step of, you know, what
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Like there were some really strong attributes
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knows the strike zone, he knows
how to execute a plan, he's a

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tough guy to strike out. But
you know, we felt like there was

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there was an opportunity to put him
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baseball And some of that was just
like his overall capacity from a strength that

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speed side of things, but a
lot of that was also just like his

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mindset on what he was trying to
do and going up there with intent to

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like hunt certain pitches at certain times
in his at that and try and do

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damage with them. So it's you
know, not dissimilar conversations that you know,

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roll the clock back a couple of
years that we had with Kwannie or

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Tyler Freeman or some of these guys
that had similar performance profiles. But I

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think man a lot of credit goes
to Firm on how he handled hearing some

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of that feedback. And then you
know, this guy is is really impressive

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to watch work and I think,
you know, his work ethic and just

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his desire to want to get better. You know that that's a huge credit

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to our scouts were able to assess
that on the front end, and obviously

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a huge credit to him to be
able to digest that information that we talked

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about the end of last year and
really work his tail off in the off

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season and challenge himself with some of
the intent level items. And you know,

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I think that's why we're seeing a
huge gap in some of just his

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ability to impact the baseball, whether
it's from an exit velocity standpoint or just

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from an overall like power performance side
of things. You know, those are

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the really fun stories where we're kind
of all of our domains are working holistically,

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like our physical groups, working with
our hitting group, and we're coming

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up with a plan and involving the
player in that plan. And it's been

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awesome to see, you know,
some some real positive trends with with firm

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early the early part of this year. And CJ similar story, c J

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capis, Yeah, so, you
know, similar, but a little different

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in the sense of this is you
know CJ's you know, first full year

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with us. He got like a
really small taste of affiliate ball out of

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the draft last year when he went
to Lynchburg, and you know, it's

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it's tough for those guys that play
a long college season. You know,

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he Miami guy, played in the
ACC, so it wasn't a lack of

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being exposed to good competition. It
was just, you know, they played

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from February all the way to a
and then they had a month off and

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the draft happens, and they're trying
to get up to speed on you know,

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what professional baseball is. And you
know, this is a guy just

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seeing him in his first full year
all the way back to spring training,

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just the consistent quality at bats that
he puts up is really impressive. And

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then obviously we challenged him going straight
to Lake County after just a small stint

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in Lynchburg last year. And he
was up to that challenge and you know,

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really impacts the baseball like hit hit
for a lot of power in the

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middle of that lineup, but also
just does some of the other things that

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we think we think is the reason
why we're so excited about this guy moving

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forward. And obviously he's gotten off
to you know, right right where he

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left off in Akron so far a
couple of games in so you know,

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a really uh smart and advanced college
hitter that that has been fun to watch

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this year. All right, Rob, we I think we can wrap up

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the Variety edition of the Minor League
Report this week. Thank you so much

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for for all the updates on different
Yeah, thank you, Rosie, I

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appreciate it. That's ropster Folio,
the Guardians director of player Development, and

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we always appreciate Rop's time for our
weekly farm report. Stay with us.

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back to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse
along with you from the Rogers Center in

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada, where
the Guardians are taking on the Blue Jays

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this weekend, and as we finish
our show this week. Every once in

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a while we like to check in
with Guardians Senior Vice President Bob d Biassio.

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Here it is another edition at the
Ballpark with Bobby D. The perfectly

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manicured fields, the unmistakable aroma of
a ballpark hot dog, and the electricity

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celebrating another victory. This is at
the Ballpark with Bobby D. The ballpark

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is home to many stories, many
memorable moments, and colorful personalities. Joining

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me now at the ballpark is one
of my dear friends, Larry Dobie Junior,

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his father breaking the color barrier in
the American League July fifth, nineteen

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forty seven, when he went to
the plate as a pinch hitter in Comiski

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Park in Chicago. Larry, it's
always awesome to have you back in Cleveland.

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It's always good to be back here, Robert, thanks for having me.

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Let's talk a little bit about your
dad. I know you've done so

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many interviews. One of the coolest
things that I've heard you say over the

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many years that you and I have
connected is the fact that your father said

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he never got booed in Cleveland,
that this city truly embraced him. Yeah,

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exactly. He wasn't much for telling
the stories Bobby and I would try

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to get him to when he wouldn't. And one day we were sitting around

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and he made that statement, and
I thought he was crazy because I grew

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up in New York and New Jersey. They bowed Mickey Mantle and he said,

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they never bowed me there. And
that meant so much to me,

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because that meant to me that he
was theirs. He was their guy,

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and whether he struck out or got
a hit, they were gonna support him.

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And he never forgot that. You
know. Another story that you shared

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was there'd be people come to your
home and stars of all pro sports,

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and your dad was a fan of
all sports, being a four sports star

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at Patterson High School in New Jersey, terrific football player, basketball player,

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and also a member of the US
Navy, which we cannot forget his service

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to our country. Tell us and
share some of the names that as a

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kid, you were walking around the
house and all of a sudden, at

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the dinner table, there's some pretty
special people. Yeah, but you got

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to remember, Bobby, they were
just my dad's friends. They weren't special

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people to me. So he'd say, you know, come home early,

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maybe you want to, you know, meet these guys, and it would

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be Bill Russell, Sam Jones,
Willie Knowles, Willie Mays, don Nukeomb

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and you know, I was just
like, Okay, nice to meet you,

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sir. You know my pleasure.
Can I go back and play dad?

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And He's like, yeah, sure, of course. In hindsight,

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which we all know is twenty twenty, I wish I would have stayed there

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and kind of soaked in some of
the knowledge that they were, you know,

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putting out. But you know,
you just when you're a kid,

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all you want to do is play
when when you get the chance. So

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that's what happened. And you and
I have chatted about this, and I

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don't think we've ever shared this with
the public. So to me, it's

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a remarkable story that you were both
a football and baseball player and you were

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trying to identify a college in which
you might be able to go and play

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both sports. Tell us the story
about how you identified the school that you

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did, the story behind Paul Harvey, remember Paul Harvey, and the rest

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of the story. Well, to
me, this is an incredibly interesting rest

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of the story. When you sat
with your father and decided to tell him

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where you were going to go to
college. So I got a bunch of

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offers and letters and stuff from different
schools. And one of the things was

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that I definitely knew I wanted to
play two sports, being football and baseball,

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and some schools automatically were like,
well, the money's coming from football,

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this is your priority, and so
forth and song. And my goal

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was to go to the best school
that I could go to and if possibly

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a warm weather thing. So I
went to visit Duke University of North Carolina

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in February. It was seventy degrees. I was sold. Then. All

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the initial contact came from the football
office and coach Mike McGee. And after

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we had met and sat down and
talked, and you know, he said,

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okay, I understand you know,
baseball is pretty important to you.

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He decided to sort of funnel my
interest towards the baseball team because he figured,

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I think that he could get two
athletes for the price of one,

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because if I was on baseball scholarship, then I was going to play football.

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He knew that, so that's what
he did, which was pretty shrewd

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on his part. So it turns
out that the recruiting process had gone pretty

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far. I hadn't even asked or
known who the baseball coach was when it

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kind of took the direction towards baseball, I found out the baseball coach was

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Enis Slaughter. As people probably know, he was one of the guys who

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wasn't happy when Jackie Robinson signed and
put his name on a petition that they

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weren't going to play, and so
forth and so on. And my father

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had always told me when I was
younger, to treat people the way that

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they treat you, not what you
hear about them, not what you think.

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You know, give him a chance. And he said, even if

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I'm not friendly with them and they're
friendly with you, that's okay. So

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needless to say, this was a
chance to put those lessons to, you

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know, a true test. Yeah. And the best thing I'll say,

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Bobby, is that I think the
true measure of a man is not where

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he begins the race, it's where
he finishes it. And I have to

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say that coach Slaughter, you know, finished it on the right side.

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He was brought up and born into
a segregated society. That was part of

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his life, you know. But
by the time I got to him,

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you know, he was a good
guy. I loved playing for him.

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You know, I wouldn't have traded
the experience for the world. My father,

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on the other hand, you know, would always joke with me.

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They'd see each other at old timers
game and he go, I saw your

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coach, you know, and stuff
like that. So I think he had

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forgiven, but he didn't forget,
and they had it, you know,

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me in common. So I think
they became a little bit more friendly over

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the years. So that was part
of the situation. I'm glad that I

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could have helped them get a little
closer. So let's get specific. On

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the football field, what position did
you play? I played strong safety,

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and I could hit and I could
run a little bit, so that you

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yeah, I did. I did, almost to the point where the coach

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said, you don't have to let
him catch it to tackle him. You

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can block the ball not hit him. But yeah, that's kind of what

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I learned. So yeah. And
then in baseball, what position did you

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play? Were you a center fielder
like your dad? I played center field

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like him. Yeah, you know, in a right handed hitter, switch

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hitter. Yep. I've always found
that story to be so remarkable. Again

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for those who want to check the
history books. Yeah, Ina Slaughter allegedly

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was the ringleader of even wanting the
boycott baseball for integration at that time.

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But you said, you know,
a man comes from a certain place and

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he has a chance to change,
And did you integrate Duke's baseball team?

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Believe it or not, Bobby,
I found out long after I had graduated

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that I was the first black player
there. I didn't know that, and

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I think ironically I was the second
black player in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

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But you know what, I was
a freshman. Those guys, you know,

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it was a lot of upperclassmen.
They never made me feel different.

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I had no idea. Now we
were going to places and play like Valdosta,

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Georgia and places like that where it
was a little crazy, but you

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know, I felt like I was
part of the team, and you know,

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didn't have to go through the stuff
my father did with not eating in

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the same restaurant at the hotels.
So you know, we were all together,

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and you know, I'm thankful for
that experience. Well, we're thankful

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that you're willing to share that.
We're thankful. I'm personally thankful we have

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this deep, long relationship that we
have. I was one of the few

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that are still here, that blessed
to know your father and your mother,

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Helen, and what wonderful, gracious
people they were, and hoping that you

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out there all enjoyed today's at the
Ballpark story. We look forward to sharing

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more at the Ballpark and the Cleveland
Guardians Radio Network. And that'll do it

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for this week's edition of Guardians Weekly. As always, thanks to Brian Matse

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for all of his help putting together
our show each week. We will join

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you next week when the team is
back home taking on these Saint Toronto Blue

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Jays at Progressive Field next weekend.
Until then, this is Jim Rosenhause reminding

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