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Come back behind the wheel on a
Tuesday evening. How you doing, Gary.

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Jeff Walker is sitting down checking in
on election primary night in Ohio.

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The results will be at the top
and the bottom of the hour with the

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news. Personally, I care about
as much as most people in Ohio do

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if the early turnout was any story
at all. But anyway, we've got

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all of that information for you.
Here's one thing. We kind of brought

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this up over the weekend on the
Saturday Morning Show. I am sick and

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tired of everyone trying to be Donald
Trump, or everyone trying to be as

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anti Trump as they possibly can in
their political ads. There is only one

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Donald Trump. And I don't care
if he endorsed you, if he invited

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you tomorrow lago, if you've got
pictures with Donald Trump, You're not Donald

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Trump. So just stop it.
And I don't care how anti Donald Trump

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you are. You're a real conservative, not like Trump. It doesn't equate.

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It doesn't matter to me. I'm
a Trump voter. I'll be a

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Trump voter again, hopefully in November, if they don't try and find a

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way to lock him up in political
prison between now and then, which they

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are doing their damnedest to achieve.
But no, I'm not looking for another

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candidate like Trump. The reason I
probably care less about the Ohio primaries is

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I don't live in Ohio, so
I can't vote, and those people don't

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represent me. But again, my
representative, for example, in Kentucky's fourth

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District, is Thomas Massey, a
guy that I will vote for time and

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time and time again. He've been
in trouble with Trump more than once because

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Thomas Massey does what's best for the
people that he works for, in other

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words, his constituents in the fourth
district. He may not work for k

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Street or the lobbyist, and thank
god he doesn't. But you know what,

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he's his own man. So's Donald
Trump. And that's my point.

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There's only one Trumpster. And you
can either think he belongs in the dumpster

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or you believe that he should be
the forty seventh president of these United States

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of America. I believe he should
have been the forty sixth president of these

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United Actually he would still be forty
five if the election hadn't been stolen out

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from under the American people in twenty
twenty. Fact. But candidates, I

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know you're trying to grab onto the
trump coat tails and write him for as

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long as you can. And you
know what, he got some pretty decent

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long co tales. Jd Vance found
out that in Ohio a few years back,

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and some other candidates hoping to ride
that whirlwind into office. The fact

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of the matter is, you're not
Donald Trump. Quit trying to even animate

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like you're Donald Trump. The guy
who David Taylor. I thought his campaign

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ads were great. He didn't need
to allude to Trump because everybody knew what

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he was talking about when he said
he was a businessman, not a politician,

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And somebody's worked very very hard to
build that business, to help his

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family and to help his community out. And this cycle he was running for

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the congressional seat. Anyway. The
results are flooding in now to the newsroom,

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and we'll bring you those as soon
as possible. Our first guest tonight

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on This Night Camp is a man
named Jeffrey Katz. He's written a book

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based on the writings of and I'm
gonna screw this up probably several times during

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the interview, Memodni's who is Memodernize. We'll find out and we'll find out

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how to pronounce themodernize as we continue
after the break, I'm Gary Jeff,

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you are you? And that's perfectly
fine with me. And this is the

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night capin and no, you're not
Donald Trump. Quit trying to say you

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are. Makes me kind of irritated. Can you tell nine out of ten

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drill instructors agree Larry Kaid is the
true conservative for Congress. I am your

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drill instructor, and I have orders
for you. Joe Biden and the anti

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Trump literals are ruining this great country? Am I right? Yes? And

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Lexunday is Tuesday? And there's only
one conservative running for Congress who made an

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argument in the Supreme Court to keep
President Trump on the ballot. What's his

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name? Why didn't the other congressional
candidates defend President Trump in the Supreme Court

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like Harry Kid did? Excuse Tucker? Who is the pro life candidate,

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who is the candidate who will protect
our right to own a gun? Cat?

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And who has a Republican Party endorse
man? Hey, Kt, I

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dismissed, go hit the poles.
I'm Larry Kid, and I approved this

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message. Hey for my kid for
Congress. Imagine waking up this time next

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weekend now as promised, as we
continue on this Tuesday evening here on seven

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out of WLW. We're going to
all learn in the next few minutes about

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May Modernie's. I'd never heard of
me Madnie's until i got this pitch from

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Sandy Fraser, wonderful public relations person
that people like I work with to line

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up interesting guests and she never lets
me down. So I'm looking forward to

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this. But uh, may Modnie's
and we have an authority far far greater

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than me to explain who May Modnie's
was, what he wrote, and there's

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a new book called Rules to Live
By May Modnie's Guide to a Wonderful Life.

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Rabbi Jeffrey Katz joins us in this
first segment on the Night Captain Night

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to talk about all of that,
and he's here now. Good evening,

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Rabbi, how are you good evening? Great Gary, Jeff great to be

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here with you, Thank you,
fantastic. So first and foremost tell people

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who may Modernize was because I had
never heard of this ancient PHILOSOPHERY goes back

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to what the eleven twelve hundreds?
Is that correct? That's correct, that's

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correct. He was born by most
accounts at eleven thirty five they lived about

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eight hundred years ago. But you
know, his teachings are really so current

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as a matter of fact, you
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world pour over his stuff every day. And because you know, Thomas Aquinas

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kind of took over a lot of
what he did. My monodies did it

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in the context of Judaism. Thomas
Aquinas did it, uh, it did

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largely a similar project in the context
of Christianity. He had Thomas had certain

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other issues to deal with, you
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and my monody is really is still
studied in most major universities today. He

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was both a master of the spirit
and he was the top doctor of his

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time. So he's a really he
was a fascinating guy because again he was

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both a man of science and best
the most prominent doctor of his time.

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He was basically the personal physician to
the royal court in Egypt. He was

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effectively the royal physician. He was
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who he was the doctor for.
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you know, spiritualists and uh theologian
to whoever lived as well. So he

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really had both worlds his life was
very difficult. I mean, the first

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half of his life he just spent
being chased by religious fanatics. He was

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born in Spain, and Spain was
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the Almohads, which were an extreme
Islamist sect, and they basically, you

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know, were either going to kill
people or force them to convert. So

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he was the first entire half of
his life he was running away, and

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he did a lot of his work, some of his I mean about half

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of his life's work was done while
he was on the run. And he

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would write, you know, you
have to excuse if you find little efforts

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in this work because I'm like sleeping
in the jungle here, running away from

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these people. You know, I'm
not writing under the most optimal conditions,

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he would say. But when the
dust cleared again. He was kind of

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the best known doctor of his era
and also the top kind of spiritualist and

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philosopher theologian of his time. So
he really is with a remarkable guy,

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and he gave us these rules that
really, you know, he believed in

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balance, like you have to be
balanced in the different areas of your life,

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because he recognized that if you're just
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your family life, or your love
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not going to be happy. So
he really gives the very basic, easy

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to follow rules in each of the
main areas of life. And by doing

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that, you know, by following
these rules, anyone can really turn his

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life around and become and become happy. But it's I know, it's hard

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to believe. I kind of stumbled
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but I've been living by them my
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really, very profound. I hope
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get into them a little bit.
Here is a quote from his Book of

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Wisdom. We each decide whether to
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cruel, generous or miserly. No
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us, no one drags us along
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responsible for what we are, and
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with the fact that God gave us
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that as human beings we had free
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kind of very he was so strong
a believer in free will. He would

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always say, you know, our
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on free will, because it doesn't
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everybody has the freedom, and everybody
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everyone's senses that his or her future
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large degree, within their own control. So you know, he was big

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on developing your character and in rules
to live by. I give you know,

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my mind to these basic formulas for
developing your character. I mean,

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one expression he used a lot was
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is preferable to the terror of indecision. You know. So he pointed to

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how important it is in life for
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spiritual, family, to be able
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really pointed to the fact that,
you know, even if other people need

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decisions made for them, you know, if you need to, you have

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to be in a position where you
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things like trustworthiness and reliability. On
trustworthiness, he said, my mind maybe

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said lose with truth and right rather
than gain with fullhood and wrong. I

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mean, because you know, someone
tricks you. Maybe it's a short term

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gain for him, but over the
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who wants to deal in any capacity, personally or professionally with someone who tricks

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you and is not trustworthy. And
he points out that if you just have

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these basic skills of character, in
other words, you're coinable making decisions.

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You're known as a trustworthy person.
You're known as a reliable person who when

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he says, who's going to do
something? Doesn't you know? Among everything

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else, Just think in your career
how you're going to skyrocket, because once

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you have traits like that and similar
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everybody else. And it's so even
though those traits seem so simple, only

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a few people really perform them.
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be successful career wise, your character
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also going to have success in your
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know, with those unrelated characteristics.
Well, Jeffrey Katz, you talk about

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how seemingly simple these rules are,
and I go back to the what we

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called the golden rule when I was
growing up, to treat others as you

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would have yourself treated. I mean, and you're right, that's as bottom

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line easy as it gets, and
yet we seem to have a hard time

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as human beings doing that. Why
why is it so hard to follow some

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simple rules? Just Jenmal, you
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Jeff. I think one of the
reasons is because sometimes people don't say.

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People like sometimes a parent, you
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why are you telling your child that
it's so basic, And the parents should

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say because someone has to teach the
child right from wrong, the basic rules,

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you know, like in child grow
Ring, for example, it's so

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important to allow your children to develop
the sense of their own judgment and ability

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to make decisions for themselves. That's
so critical to their own lives. You

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know, some people think, oh, I'm going to force my child to

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do the right things, and that's
the wrong approach. My mom that he

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teaches us that once the child gets
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a little bit and reason for himself, don't become is bossed, because once

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you can try to control your child's
life, you're just going to buy for

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yourself resentment and hatred. What you
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Tell your child if you do this, this is likely to happen if you

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do that, the other thing is
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kid sees that you're usually right about
that, I mean, because your life

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experiences so much vaster than his,
he'll then come to you as an advisor.

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And then your child's own judgment will
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to resist all of these pressures from
society, all of these messages that you

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don't want your child getting. If
your child doesn't have independent judgment, your

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child is just gonna like, just
like your bossing and around society tells them

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to do certain things, they're just
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I mean. Kids are like,
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A tree needs water to grow,
but too much water. If you water

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a treat too much, it won't
develop strong roots. It doesn't have to

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because the roots don't need to go
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water. Same thing with kids.
If you don't, if you make all

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their decisions for them, and you
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of judgment and their own decision making
power, then their roots will also not

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be strong, and then they'll be
they'll just be like flops them when they

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get all these messages telling them what
to do from God knows whatever source it's

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coming. They're not going to be
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good decisions and stick to the values
that you wanted them to have, which

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are basically your own values, because
if you're not going to instill your own

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value strongly in your kids, other
people are waiting to instill theirsage talking to

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Rabbi Jeffrey Katz on Rules to Live
By, a book that he has written

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based on the wisdoms of Maemodernes,
who was an ancient philosopher going back about

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eight hundred years ago, and Reverend
Cats, Rabbi Cats, I'm sorry about

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that. I just got done talking
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ago. I am. I'm a
believing Christian, but it was it was

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weird that you were talking about how
Memodni's would instruct parents to be with their

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children, and it brought back a
verse that was in the sermon this past

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Sunday in a Christian church from the
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children, provoke not to anger your
children, but instruct them in the ways

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of the Lord. And that's sounded
so similar to what you just wroted.

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Yeah, sure, that's a similar
and beautiful idea. And again the idea

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is to develop in your children an
independent analysis so that when all this bombardening

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comes in now from every direction,
they'll be strong in their in their values

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and their beliefs because still have judgment. They won't just be being told by

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you what to do like robots,
because then they just as easily taken the

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commands from society. They're the coming
that are bombarning them from every direction.

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Give me another important rule rule to
live by from Memodni's before we go.

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Sure, absolutely, So you know, my Mondoes was very It was very

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big on that. Just like a
child can't be happy unless he is a

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strong link with his parents, a
person cannot be happy unless he is a

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strong link with God. And my
Mondes shows how to develop that link.

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It's basically a mental link. Where
as you think correctly about God, you

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build up a mental tunnel up to
God through your mind. And that tunnel

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is a two way tunnel. That's
also the tunnel through which God looks down

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upon you and watches you and watches
over you. God can give you ideas

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through that tunnel. Through that mechanism
that will help you resolve things in your

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life. And my Mondes talks about
the divine overflow, that overflowing abundance of

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guidance and love and ideas and wisdom
that's emanating from God at all times.

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But we have to be receivers for
that. We have to. It's like

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a radio. You know, the
waves are all out there, but if

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you're not tuned right, you're not
going to pick up anything. So the

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way to get rid of the static
in your mind is to get rid of

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the negativity and the envy and the
grudges and the you know, gods that

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if you have to get rid of
all that, focus on the positive,

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focus on what you're doing, clear
your head, and then the signposts coming

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from God will be very clear in
your life and you'll never even believe that

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you couldn't see them. But before
you've cleared the clutter and the static,

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you'll never have seen them. But
when you do, the guidance will be

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clear, and you know, you'll
wind up focusing in your life on all

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these terrific things. You'll be focusing
on all the positive things, dealing with

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the negative, but really making the
positive things. You know, like the

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focus and it's really a great formula
for success and happiness and fulfillment. Rabbi

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Jeffrey Kats. How do people get
your book Rules to Live By? Thanks

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so much. It's the dailable everywhere
Amazon, Born to and Noble target.

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If they go to Amazon, they
can get information on me and my books

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like the latest one, Rules to
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as well. Thank you so much
for your time, good stuff, interesting

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stuff. I loved it. Thanks, thank you so much. Grey you

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news on seven hundred WLW fund is
Nightcap Fun seven hundred WLW. Joining us

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in studio is the man from the
Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions. His

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name is Jim Waters. It's a
pleasure to have him on the show.

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It's great to meet you, Jim, and how are you doing. Hey,

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it's great to be here. Gary
really appreciated the opportunity and thanks for

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the introduction. He hit me with
a pitch a couple of weeks back about

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school choice in Kentucky. And that
still, for some reason, is a

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real battleground kind of issue. Mostly
the reason, in my estimation, is

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because of the vast power of the
teachers' unions, the public school teachers unions

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in Kentucky, who you may or
may not remember. During the gubernatorial run,

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they demonized Daniel Cameron because he wanted
to give taxpayer money to these fancy

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schools and leave public school children out
in the lurch, you know, without

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anywhere to go, and take money
away from public schools, which was not

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the aim of Daniel Cameron or anybody
else I know who is for school choice

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and for vouchers and for allowing parents
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school. Jim, I will tell
you that I graduated high school and giving

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away how old I am once again, graduated high school in the summer of

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nineteen seventy nine. You know what
happened in nineteen seventy nine the institution of

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the Federal Department of Education, another
bloated bureaucracy in Washington, DC that you

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can't get rid of, no matter
how hard you tried, no matter how

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inept they are as a large federal
bureaucracy entity. But I got a great

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public school education because there was no
There was no doe at the time.

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I really firmly believe that, you
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and everything else. Ten years after
I graduated, after the federal government had

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fully embedded itself in public school education
across the country, and it's only gotten

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worse since. As we've seen.
All you got to know is there's a

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war that the federal government declares and
it's you know, passed down to the

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states. The war is not meant
to be won because once the war is

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won, they are no longer they're
obsolete, you know. Yeah, it's

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like the casino. You know,
you're not supposed to win now there,

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you know. But the same thing
is true on a state level at public

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schools, I would assume. And
that's why we're here. So tell me

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a little bit about the legislation that
is on the board. We're coming to

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the end of the legislative session in
Kentucky. Well, on Friday, the

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state Senate put the finishing touches on
a constitutional amendment that would clarify that our

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constitution in Kentucky does not prevent the
legislature from passing and implementing school choice programs.

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The legislature has been doing that.
The problem is the courts, and

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of course the governor has been out
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teachers union. So the courts have
interpreted our constitution in a way that would

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simply deny parents the opportunities that other
parents have, other families have in Ohio

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and Indiana, Tennessee, we have
five hundred and eighty five charter schools in

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just Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. I believe those three states, Kentucky's

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seven surrounding states all have some type
of school choice program Ohio, Indiana,

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most of them have multiple choice school
choice programs, vouchers, scholarship, tax

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credits, scholarships for learning disabled children. You know, we get hit with

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that all the time. Well,
isn't school choice just for rich families?

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You know, Well, actually they
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They have school choice by bird.
Well, if they want to write a

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big check to cover tuition at a
non public school because it works better for

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their child, they have the means
to do it. If they want to

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move to a better a school district
with better schools or better opportunities, they

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have the means to do it.
But we should not leave behind children simply

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because they're not in the right zip
code or because their parents don't have big

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incomes. You would think that the
teachers unions in the left would be all

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about pushing for educational opportunities disadvantage kids. In fact, Jim, I think

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it's been proven over and over again
that the more school choice programs that are

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available for everyone, it really benefits
lower income people time and time and time

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again, and it benefits them in
public schools too. We have found that

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the more choices that states give parents, the better their public education system is

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performing. It's the marketplace and competition. In Florida, for example, when

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Kentucky passed the Kentucky Education Reform Act
in nineteen ninety, Florida trailed Kentucky and

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many of the key A demic areas, and they were spending more than Kentucky.

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Well, Florida has the most school
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nation. And guess what's happened.
The more choices they've given parents, the

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better their K through twelve public education
system has performed, improved, and they're

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spending less. Only one state in
the nation now leads Florida is ahead of

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Florida in their academic performance. Kentucky
is spending more. But since we implemented

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care, which was the largest tax
increase in Kentucky's history, our accountability,

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our outcomes have stagnated. We've increased
spending. You know, back in nineteen

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ninety, if you took a flate
inflation adjusted dollars, we spend about seven

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thousand dollars per pupil. Today we're
spending more than seventeen thousand dollars per pupil.

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So money is not the problem.
You'll hear that from the unions.

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You'll hear that from the government.
You know, if you just gave us

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more money. That's really ignores too
that our legislature in the past three budget

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sessions, we've had these large surpluses
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local school districts outside of the normal
funding for students. That school districts can

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do what they want. So when
you hear the governor saying they didn't give

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teachers raises, the legislature didn't give
teachers raises. No, because the teachers

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don't work for the governor or for
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districts. So if local districts need
to give teacher raises, they need to

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spend more on transportation or capital projects. They can make the decision about how

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those dollars can be used. But
the problem is not funding here. The

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problem is lack of options for parents. Only about a third of our kids

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in Kentucky are reading proficially, only
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If you look at black students,
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lower in those categories. There could
be a direct correlation there again, between

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being forced to go to a certain
public sc school in a certain district and

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having true school choice for parents.
The direct correlation. Parental choice is the

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key too. You'll hear some folks
say, well, Kentucky has choices.

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Well, like I said, if
you're wealthy, you have choices. The

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governor sent his own children to a
non public school, and he says he

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thinks that's fine as long as we
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which I think is truly hypocritical.
It's truly too bad, you know,

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really, I mean, because black
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in failing schools and schools that don't
work for them, so why can't we

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what's wrong with giving families this option. Let me put on my particularly partisan

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hat here for a moment. You
talked about Governor Bashir and thinks it's fine

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if you've got the money, but
they don't want to help assist lower income

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people with the same options that they
may have. And here's what I'm going

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to say is that, time after
time after time, and it's seemingly more

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Democrats than any other political party in
this country. They want to be seen

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as the great savior, as helping
particularly low income or marginalized members of the

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population. But what they do is
exactly the opposite, time after time after

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time. And I'm sorry to make
that up, but it's the whole Democrat

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Party, the original party of slavery, still are doing it to a certain

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extent in twenty twenty four, and
it becomes obvious after a while. But

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off my soapbox. Back to your
topic about school choice. So they're putting

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the finishing touches in the Senate on
this. They have so in our constitution,

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if the legislature decides an issue goes
on the ballot, it goes on

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the ballot. The governor cannot veto
it. He has no say in the

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matter. So this issue will be
on the ballot in November. But I

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think it's really important if you don't
mind that I say what this amendment is

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not as much as what it is, all right, This amendment will simply

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remove the barriers that we've run into
in court, legal barriers to having any

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kind of school choice program. It
does not create a school choice program.

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It doesn't mandate a specific program.
It simply gets out the bush, hal

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clears out the underbrush and clears the
way for the legislature to then come back

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and decide what are the best policies
for Kentucky. Would it would it take

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it out of an appeals court's hands
at that point if it were voted on

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by the so the Commonwealth. I
mean, if it passes, the legislation

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gets on the ballot and it passes, then does that take the courts out

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of the thing. Well, we
think anything will be challenged, right,

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the teachers unions will try. But
what we've seen happen here is in twenty

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twenty one, there was an education
Opportunity Accounts Bill that was passed that would

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have allowed all students public private charter
schools to have access to some funds for

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whatever educational services they needed, and
then for nine counties it allowed students to

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use those dollars to go to a
non public school, and the legislature passed

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it. The governor vetoed it,
the legislature overrode his veto, but the

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court stopped it, and the Kentucky
Supreme Court said at that time they ruled

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it unconstitutional and said, if you
want a program like this, you have

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to put it on the ballot and
amend the constitution. So that's what's brought

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us to this point. Another case
moving through the courts is to try to

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prevent public charter schools from coming to
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Well, it wasn't that. It
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This was both of these lawsuits were
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who have led the charge on this
and this and the power that's right it

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is. But if you go back
in history, it was Democrats in Washington,

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d C. Democrats in Chicago,
Illinois, Democrats in Los Angeles that

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created in California, for example,
over a thousand charter schools. There are

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three hundred plus charter schools in the
state of Ohio. This was not done

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by the right wing Republicans. If
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doubled the number of charter schools in
our country. So this should not be

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a partisan issue. And when you
look at some of our largest cities around

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America, they have some of the
most vibrant public charter schools and that gives

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parents a public choice, that gives
them a choice of sending their child to

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a public school that's run differently than
the traditional public what a city like Baltimore,

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Maryland. That's right, that's that's
happening. But their percentage of graduations

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almost nothing in the publics, in
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that's where we see charter schools.
And by the way, I challenged anybody,

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and no one's ever been able to
meet this challenge to find me any

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educational project, program policy in the
country that has ever closed those achievement gaps

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between black and white students, like
public charter schools have in the Bronx and

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in Harlem, like the Success Academies
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d C. Where they have a
tremendous amount of choice. This is

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not a partisan issue. It should
not be. Unfortunately, our governor has

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turned it into that. The teachers
unions have turned it into that. But

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if you look at who's helped the
most by this, we work with groups

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of inner city pastors who have said, hey, we might not be we

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might not be conservative politically, but
this is about our kids. We don't

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care about the politics. This is
about getting our kids in education. What

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do you know about are there still
districts in Kentucky that are teaching what we

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call CRT critical race theory. Well, there's been some legislation now that would

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require districts to include parents in the
decision making process about curriculum, what's taught,

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what books are in the library.
And so we're going to hold the

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Bluegrass Institute is going to hold those
districts accountable and make sure and they have

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to have a written policy, they
have to be following it. They can't

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just say we're doing this, they
have to be doing it. And that's

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a level of transparency that we haven't
had. We also need much more transparency

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in spending. You know all those
dollars that I talked about, how they've

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increased in Kentucky, but not teacher
salaries. Teacher salaries have not even kept

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up with inflation. So all these
folks talking about needing more money and so

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we can pay teachers salary hasn't kept
up with inflation. Leadership, But I'm

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just saying, all these additional dollars, and yet the teacher salaries, we

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hear from the left and excuse,
well, if you would pay teachers more,

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if you would give us more funding. Well we've given them more funding

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and it hasn't happened. So you
know, what's the definition of insanity here?

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We're doing the same things, all
that extra money going Jim, Well,

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that's what we need to know more
about. And we know, for

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example, in the Jefferson County Schools, one of the largest school districts in

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the country, in Louisville, there
are three hundred and sixty five people employed

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at the central office with six figure
salaries. We're paying pensions on those,

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and we have a superintendent there that's
making twice almost what the governor of Kentucky

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makes this and then we have teachers
who are having to dig into their own

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pockets to buy supplies and textbooks for
their students. Why that should not be

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happening in a school district with a
two billion dollar budget. Well, I

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was just going to say, when
you started talking about throwing more money at

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a situation to resolve the situation,
it's not about the amount, it's about

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where the money goes, and it's
about how it's used. And you know,

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this constitutional midment though, this is
this is really driving our oponents up

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the wall because it doesn't All it
does is say we're going to give the

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legislature of the freedom to come back
and make these decisions, and that's when

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we'll be able then to highlight many
of these issues and really I think get

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some things accomplished in Kentucky. You
know, one of the advantages, by

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the way, about being behind the
rest of the nation. You know,

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Mark Twain said that he wanted to
be in Kentucky because we were twenty years

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behind with Cincinnati, Kentucky, whatever. But the advantages we can learn from

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other states, so we can learn
how to do this really well. And

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I think we can have one of
the best school choice policies in the country.

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We can have a universal policy that
benefits all families. All families should

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have the right to provide the education
that's best for their child. There is

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no argument that stands up against that. You know, if there are public

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tax dollars being used anywhere in along
the steps of those processes, then yes,

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every family should have access, every
citizen. And those dollars are not

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to fund a system. No,
those are not to prop up a system.

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Those dollars are to fund the education
of students. And the great thing

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about school choice programs around the country
is they're actually saving public school districts money

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because a lot of times if people
take their child out of the public schools

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and put them in a non public
school, the school district they leave still

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gets a lot of the funding,
the local property tax dollars, the federal

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dollars, and there may be a
stream that follows the student. Isn't that

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novel and a great idea, But
they still benefit financially. So there's all

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kinds of advantages here and positives here. And we've got so many great stories

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of kids who have come out of
these programs who are living the American dream,

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and that's what we want to see. We think that money should fund

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students and not systems. When you
hear the government governor talked during this campaign.

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Throughout the year, you're going to
hearing talk about the public school system.

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You're going to hear the teachers unions
talk about public school system. But

463
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what we want to see is the
students that should be the main priority.

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Let the system adjust to the students, Let them adjust to what's needed.

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And that's what this constitutional amendment will
allow us to come back and do.

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Okay, in about a minute,
tell me exactly what anybody listening to this

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who lives in Kentucky should do or
what they should know. Yeah, well,

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you should know again that this amendment
will allow the legislature to determine in

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the future what kind of school choice
programs we have. This amendment will not

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do that. This amendment will allow
the legislature to do that very important difference,

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because the opponents are going to try
to say this creates vouchers, this

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creates this, and that it doesn't. It simply allows us to come back.

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So the opponents don't want the voters
of Kentucky to decide, well,

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they want them to decide and be
misinformed when they decide. They want them

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to think this will harm public education. I'm a product of public education as

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well, and I was blessed to
have a lot of great teachers. Public

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education as should be an option,
and most people will continue to choose that.

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But you know what it is,
it's the dynamics created by options that

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cause the public system to improve.
It's the dynamics, not the numbers of

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kids who will go. It's the
fact that there's a choice, fact that

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there's an alternative, alternative opportunities.
Jim Wilpers from the Bluegrass Institute for Public

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Policy Solutions NIPS dot org. All
right, what is it BIPs dot org.

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You can find a lot of information
about this issue on there too.

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Okay, BIPs dot org. Go. The Nightcap continues in moments. You're

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on seven hundred WLW. We're here
with David Cooper, vice president of Genesis

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Dust tag it out with y only
Tuesday night n T did not invited tournament

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sim already commenced today UC Place Night
Xavier played earlier this yearning but to talk

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about some basketball, to talk,
I get a text from our next guest.

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This is an hour of sports for
the out of sorts. By the

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way, I get a text Sunday
about ten thirty in the evening from this

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guy and lots to talk about if
you want redslu centerfielder and leadof Man TJ.

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Friedl three to four weeks, write
whist injury. Joey Vando on first

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pitches of Blue Jay smacks a home
run you see to play San francisc going

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around one of the n I T
Shipmen of Shipman of Jeremar Jagger or Jeremar

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Army Yager, Yarmer, Yager,
whatever I drink, I drink Jaegermeister Yager

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Yarmer, bobblehead stolen bingal, free
agent. Silence, my god, the

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text. I could almost hear him
spitting as I read the text from this

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guy. He was just like apparently
his head was exploding and he wanted to

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share that with somebody and it was
me. And thank god, we've got

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plenty to talk about, obviously,
so we might as well get to it.

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Our first guest in this hour of
Sports for the Out of Sorts is

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none other than Dennis Wildman Walker,
Hello wild Man, Hello Gary Jeffan.

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That's called show prep in the business. Well, I know, but just

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the way it was coming across,
it was like, man, he can't

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slow down. The stuff's just pounding
one after another after another after another it's

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like and I just imagine your your
head exploding as you were texting. Thank

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god it didn't because then you probably
wouldn't be able to speak to me tonight.

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Right, yeah, exactly, all
right, So what do you want

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to start with in this this uh
lollapalooza sports of palooza pack of things.

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Uh, let's start with where you
started at the top of your text,

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the loss of TJ. Friedel for
I want to back up here. I

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want to back up here because Bengal
Bengals nation is jumping for joy. The

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Bengals dip their toe again into free
agency, signing a left tackle right tackle

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Trent Brown from the New England Patriots. And this guy, if he's healthy,

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oh man, it shall be hard
to get around that guy. The

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00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.079
Bengals once again have stepped into free
agency and got somebody to protect my boy,

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Joe Burrow. That is always the
issue and you you said it the

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important coaching point if he stays healthy. And that's a hard thing to do.

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In the National Football League, as
we all know, it's a it's

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a rough game. It's played by
by men who were tough, but things

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break down. But yes, Trent
Brown, this announcement. Was it yesterday

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that it came across the wires or
this morning early this morning. Yeah,

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the fact that they've got him in
the fold is very encouraging for anybody who

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is a Bengals or Joe Burrow fan, because we need to keep Joe off

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his back and make sure that his
wrist and his calf remain intact for an

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entire season and that that will help, that will definitely help. What so

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far about the Bengals acquisitions and losses, additions and subtractions during free agency,

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do you think are the most important
and poignant? Uh? And obviously you

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count this one as a very important
piece of the boss obviously obviously Trent Brown,

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but also making the trade of Joe
Mixon. Uh, you know for

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U Joe mixing for Zach Moss.
You know, I didn't like. I

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wanted them to keep Joe, but
I understand where they're going because they freedom

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some money to sign some other guys. You know. Then they they went

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out and signed a tight end or
you could say wide receiver from the uh

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from the Dolphins. Uh. I
don't like to give grades, you know,

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I know, I all these so
called experts. I like to give

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grades. But let's just put in
my opinion here. The Bengals at a

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home run and free agency. They
were all in on this. They were

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00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.920
all in covering, you know,
covering their covering their butts here and there.

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They did a fantastic job. And
they might not be done, but

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I would say they're ninety percent done
going out and signing any free agent.

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To me, they hit a home
run here. Gino stone Man had seven

543
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:12.000
interceptions and he's going to seven interceptions. He's going to be part of that

544
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:15.599
defensive backfield for the Bengals. Bringing
Von Bell back, that was like,

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oh my god, that's that's fantastic. Yeah, and uh, you think

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that Zack Moss and Chase Brown will
get a bulk of the carries at the

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running back position. I love what
Chase Brown brought last year. You know,

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I can't wait for a second season
of Chase Brown or a third season.

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This is this is a good backfield
with Zach Moss. I think,

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yeah, I believe that with the
Bengals training trading that pretty much. You

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know, Okay, Chase Brown,
the job is yours. You and Zach

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Moss are going to be the duo
in the backfield. I think that pretty

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much sent the message to Chase Brown
and what I saw when he played,

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you know the guy, the guy
can run. Man, he's a force.

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So right now, I mean the
things that are looking up here for

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our Cincinnati Bengals. All right,
let's get on with the rads here for

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a second. And the loss of
TJ. TJ. Friedel for the beginning

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of the season. What does this
mean for the ball club? Well,

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it's not the end of the world. I mean, he was the leadoff

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hitter, but they I think most
likely John's in India because he's got to

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play. It's gonna probably be the
leadoff hitter. Will Benson, Stuart Fairchild,

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they can play center field. The
Reds might go out and look for

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somebody, but I I highly doubt
it that. They've got so many guys

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that can play different positions. And
that's the way baseball is today. When

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Freedo comes back, I mean,
he's got to be careful because risk injuries,

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as you know, are kind of
tricky. I mean, look at

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Joe Burrow, he missed the whole
season. So Freedo just got to be

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patient and just you know, follow
the instructions of the doctors and he'll be

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back. He might be out three
or four weeks. They're saying he might

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miss a month of playing time,
and he might have to go out for

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a rehab assignment to get us back
back contuned. But I don't think it's

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the end of the world with TJ. Friedel missing three to four weeks or

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whatever, because they've got guys that
can't replace him, and like I said,

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the leadoff hitter, Jonathan Ania,
you can plug him right in there,

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the lead off. Well, the
Reds have made announcements on their their

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four starting pitchers. They're still looking
for a fifth guy in the rotation.

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And you know, we have we
have Montage, we have Hunter Green.

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Who else is in that group that's
already been named as starters? Like four

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people that they named, uh Montage, uh, Hunter Green, Golly,

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you know it just it just came
across this morning as yeah, yeah,

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and I saw it last night,
all right, Martinez Martinez, that's right,

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Martinez. Uh. And and they're
they're then they're going to decide between

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Andrew Abbott and somebody else. Oh
yeah, Andrew Andrew Abbit that would be

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the four. Then it comes down
to Williamson or Lodolo. Yeah. But

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Williams and I understand had a flight
problem, had to come out of the

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game on I think it was Saturday, So I think they're leaning toward Ledolo

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to be there. Well, you
know, according to this report from Cincinnati

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dot Com, the Cincinnati Reads twenty
twenty four, starting rotation won't truly be

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set until April the tenth, when
Nick Lodolo is scheduled to be activated from

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the injured list and step back into
his role as a front line starter.

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Brandon Brandon Willimartin. Brandon Williamson was
the other. Brandon Williamson was the other

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of the four that were announced Nick
Martinez and Brandon Williamson. Okay, well,

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00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.960
Brandon Williams and up until that's light, we had to come out of

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the game. I think it was
Saturday or was it Sunday's two innings.

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Yeah, so I don't know,
you don't know, but it is.

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It is going to come down to
starting pitching. You know. I've talked

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00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:00.480
with her about this, and it's
obvious to anybody who has watched any baseball,

598
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especially in the last ten years,
that it's all about the starting rotation

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and can they go more than six
innings consistently? Can they get people out

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and can they give their bullpen just
enough room to save and win games?

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And you know last year it was
just in the year before, it was

602
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:23.880
like, God, can you get
out of the fourth or fifth inning?

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00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:30.480
Guys come on and it just seemingly
wasn't working there. So we'll see if

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this is finally turning the corner.
I love when Abbott came in and you

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00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:40.320
know, at first and he learned
a lot about life as a major league

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00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:46.199
starting pitcher last year, and he's
going to have that knowledge and I believe

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00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:51.280
he has the skill and talent to
definitely be a part of that starting five

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00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.679
rotation. You and if you're a
left hander, you get twenty lives they

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00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.159
get They give left handers more chances
than anybody, and he's a lefty and

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00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.960
lefties are hard to get, especially
in a starting rotation. I'd like Andrew

611
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.719
Rabbit a lot. Like you said, I think he learned last year on

612
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.119
how to approach the approach these hitters, and they know they started to,

613
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:14.800
you know, get the book on
him. But I really like Andrew Rabbit.

614
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.039
I think their rotation is good.
I mean, Frankie Montosh had a

615
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.480
good outing of the other night.
You can't complain about that. I mean,

616
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.239
I have to get it struck out
six struck out seven guys, so

617
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.239
we you know, everybody was starting
to worry because his ERI was a little

618
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.400
high. The rotation they've got,
I like, but can they go And

619
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.880
I said this before two or three
times when I was on with you,

620
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.840
they got to go more than six
innings consistently or they're not going anywhere.

621
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:43.079
Absolutely, talking to the wild Man
in this hour of sports for the out

622
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.000
of Sorts. We'll see if we
can get him out of sorts here in

623
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:50.559
the next segment, we'll take a
quick break and come back talk a little

624
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:57.960
basketball and one of one of wild
Men's favorite topics coming up on the nightcap

625
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:04.920
on seven hundred ared WLW. It's
got in tick Barcus this weekend at the

626
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:09.119
Ohio Expolks, that just take I
seventy one to exit. Back with the

627
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:15.519
wild Man on a Tuesday night night
Cat seven hundred wl W and Garry Jeff

628
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.320
with Dennis Wildman Walker. One of
his favorite topics. I teased, he

629
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.960
said, he's scared. Now you
should be scared. It's just hugs,

630
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:29.159
good old hugs, baby. Everybody
hugs. Everybody needs hugs. Wild Man

631
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:35.920
hugs hugs. He's still out there
looking for work. And what's what's the

632
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.760
latest and the greatest on Bob Huggins. Well, I read a report yesterday

633
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.480
that he had an interview with some
TV station out of Pittsburgh where he said

634
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.679
that he would he wants to coach
again. He wants to help the help

635
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.480
young people. He loves helping young
people. He'd like to stay at West

636
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:52.599
Virginia and be the coach, but
he knows that's not really gonna happen.

637
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.679
So he wants to coach. And
he hasn't had a drink since his DUI

638
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.880
incident, which is a great thing. I believe he's lost close to forty

639
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.039
fifty pounds. I know he's seventy
years old, but you know what,

640
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:09.039
you look at his record and look
at the the was track record. I

641
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:13.079
mean, he came to UC,
turned them around. He went to Kansas

642
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.679
State, he turned them around.
He went to West Virginia, which was

643
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.440
a mess, he turned them around. Seventy years old means nothing. Age

644
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.760
means nothing, especially as a basketball
coach. And the job at Louisville,

645
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:28.039
which I was getting all excited about, it's still open now. I just

646
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.360
read a report today where this guy
that was so so called expert about coaching

647
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.840
changes didn't have Huggins in the list. He had Mick Cronin in the list.

648
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:39.519
Possibly Mick Cronin because he has some
ties at Louisville when he worked under

649
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:44.599
a Rick Patino. But a guy
that could turn the program around would be

650
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.719
Bob Huggins at Louisville. Some people
wouldn't like it, but you know,

651
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:50.239
do you want to win, do
you want to get your program straightened out?

652
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.159
Bob Huggins would be the guy.
So the Louisville job, as of

653
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:58.239
this point, we believe is still
open and Bob Huggins, Bob Huggins might

654
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.800
might come at that job. You
would know, his his prime job,

655
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:07.840
his dream job has always been as
a head coach of the Mountaineers. His

656
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:12.679
his alumni. You know, this
is the guy his alma mater, and

657
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:19.199
that obviously not in the cards for
Bob Huggins anymore. But I always,

658
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:23.920
I always enjoyed watching Bob Huggins on
the sideline. I always enjoyed watching him

659
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:30.039
coach that you see bearcats when he
was here, and thought that the way

660
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.760
he was summarily run out of town
on a rail by Nancy, by Nancy

661
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:43.079
z for Yeah, who it was
obviously that's the only reason you see hired

662
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.039
Nancy's in for She had to she
had to come in and get rid of

663
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.559
Bob Huggins. That was kind of
out of her hands. But she was

664
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.840
the one that was the instrument of
destruction in that case. Yeah, and

665
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.880
then she runs off to Boston University
or Boston College, I think it was

666
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.960
Boston University really had a scandal up
there on or her. You know,

667
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:06.840
so two places she ran offten she
took over as scandals some people. Some

668
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:12.000
people chase scandals. I guess that's
that's why they vote for Joe Biden.

669
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.039
Chelsey's them for Blond out of a
bottle, Blond out of a bottle.

670
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:21.119
I I used to call her that
horrid woman that you see on the air,

671
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.760
right, you're right horrid. But
as I stepped back and had perspective,

672
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:30.559
I realized that it wasn't Nancy.
They used her as the mouthpiece to

673
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:36.320
do it. She was kind of
like the ponscious pilot. Yeah, of

674
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.559
that whole thing, washing her hands
of it could have been it could have

675
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.960
been handled a lot better, but
you know, that's the water under the

676
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.880
bridge, and we'll move on and
hopefully Hugs will get a job. I

677
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.880
mean a team wants him to turn
her program around. He's the guy.

678
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:52.639
I don't think he'll be out of
work long at All you see is playing,

679
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:58.039
uh, at least one more basketball
game against George No excuse me,

680
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:02.280
not George San Francisco, San Francisco
tomorrow night in the n I till then

681
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:08.199
the Dons. I mean, is
there a real reason? Let me ask

682
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:13.800
you this too. Do you think
it was it was a bad thing?

683
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:16.559
Rick Pattino said, Now we don't
need to go to the n I T.

684
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:21.039
We need to focus on getting better
for next year at Saint John's.

685
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:24.760
Let me give you that question first. I think that's Rick Bettino's decision,

686
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.639
not whether to play or not to
play. I'm sure he ranted by the

687
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.800
kids, say what do you want
to do? And they probably said we're

688
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:36.119
not interested in playing that we're win
arrested. What you what you think we

689
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:38.880
should do? Coaching? That's Rick
Bettino's call. This n I T tournament.

690
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.559
You know, I always like the
n I T Tournament. This n

691
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:46.199
T Tournament is set up, possibly
Gary Jeff for you see to possibly meet

692
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.679
Xavier because they're on the opposite side
of the bracket. That could happen.

693
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.679
And then if you see, can
meet San Francisco tomorrow night. Don't have

694
00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:00.039
another home game, So it's set
up right now that you See and Xavier

695
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:05.440
could meet in this thing, they
could meet. All right, well,

696
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.559
I mean we will have to see
what happens. Of course, Xavier is

697
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.639
already done playing. We just don't
know the outcome right now, wild man.

698
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:15.880
Correct, you see taking on San
Francisco at home at Fifth Third Arena

699
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:22.840
tomorrow evening, and we'll get a
clearer picture of whether they continue. Let's

700
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:27.079
talk about the real tournament. Wild
Man, you got any favorites? You

701
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:34.119
got any bracket busters? Why?
I entered one bracket contest and I have

702
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.559
sat Mary is advancing I believe to
the final four. I won't have an

703
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:43.320
available right here, but I have
hold on to your hat. Hold on

704
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.440
to your hat. I have the
Kentucky Wildcats winning the National champions. What

705
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:54.719
I have the Kentucky Wildcats winning the
National champions? Are you insane? I'm

706
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:59.440
not insane because the weather they're set
up and the way they're set up,

707
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.960
it looks pretty easy. All right, Who are the Wildcats playing first and

708
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.920
playing Oakland? Play in Oakland?
Yeah, come on, many handle them

709
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:13.960
with no problem. Well you'd think
I thought they were going to handle Arkansas

710
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.360
with no problem. Yes, it's
another SEC school, but that was right

711
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:21.639
down to the wire, and Arkansas
was no better than a five hundred team

712
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:27.719
in the SEC. But Oakland the
Bears of Oakland facing the Wildcats of Kentucky.

713
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:34.320
So what's the explain your rationale in
uk winning the whole damn thing?

714
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.360
Because you look at their now is
looking at who they possibly will play or

715
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.480
the other team's losing. And I
looked at Kentucky and I said, well,

716
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:44.519
they they're going to score points.
They're going to score points. We

717
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.320
know they're going to score points.
But they got to play some defense.

718
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:50.960
But can they play defense? We're
gonna find out here, aren't we.

719
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.960
We're gonna find out they can play
defense. I'm take in Kentucky, all

720
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.360
right? Who went? All?
Who have you got him playing in the

721
00:55:55.440 --> 00:56:00.199
second round? In the second round, I don't have the bracket. You're

722
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.280
in front of me, so I
can't I got I don't have it in

723
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:06.199
front of me here. Well,
I mean you're you're quoting Saint Mary's in

724
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.639
UK. I guess those were easy, since Saint Mary's has no business being

725
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.119
in the final four, and I
don't think UK has any business winning a

726
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:19.440
national championship. They simply have not
astball expert do you have? I don't

727
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:23.960
fill out brackets anymore because I realized
about ten years ago that I'm thinking I

728
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:30.039
knew something about college basketball news,
zero, zilch, nothing. And you

729
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.599
know what, you can get a
trained monkey, or even an untrained monkey

730
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.800
to fill out brackets and do better
than some of the ex Well, you've

731
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.840
got a few of those working at
that radio station of yours. Hey,

732
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:43.039
hey, watch it, watch it. You're right, you're right. Why

733
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.320
have UK playing Yukon? Okay,
I have Ukon making it to the championship

734
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.840
game. Oh not that I can
Yeah, I can see Yukon being in

735
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.239
the championship game. I'm just wow. I hope you're right. You know,

736
00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:00.400
I live in Kentucky and I'm around
Wildcats all the time, so I

737
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:05.679
mean, yes, it would be
nice, I guess for another national championship.

738
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:10.239
I just don't think John Caliperry is
is capable of coaching another national championship

739
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:15.559
team and He's proven that this year
over and over and over again. Well,

740
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:17.639
I know John Caliperi speaks highly of
you when I talk to him on

741
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:23.000
occasion, so I do know that. How about uh, how about Alan

742
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:27.360
Alan Cutler? Does he speak highly
of me when you talk to him?

743
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.280
I have never spoken to that goof
ball? Are you kidding you? Figure?

744
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:36.639
I figured that the wild man and
the hedgehog would have a lot in

745
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:42.960
common. We have nothing in common. Zero with a capital C, my

746
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.679
friend. Well, it will be
interesting to see how your bracket works out.

747
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:50.840
Wild Man. I'm rooting for you. I just don't think it's very

748
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:53.559
likely that UK is going to win
it all in the NC two aas.

749
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.639
But we they got to play the
games. We'll see. They got to

750
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.119
play the games, yes, sir. They got to keep Oakland from scoring

751
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:05.280
more than ninety points on Thursday night. That's what they gotta do. Let

752
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:08.280
me put it this way, if
they UK Wildcats lose to Oakland, they

753
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.440
will runs out in Caliperi out of
town on a rail. And that's not

754
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:15.039
gonna happen. All right, wildman
Walker, thank you for being our week.

755
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:19.320
Done. I don't get to talk
about the yam heir Yager Babbo hats

756
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.119
getting stolen? You just did?
Oh kind of? We got a roll

757
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.880
the all Shipman got stolen. Now
they're on eBay for three d n a

758
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:32.760
piece. Well, what a shame. And I really wanted my Yamir Yager

759
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:38.079
bubble head. I'll just have some
Jaggermeister and drown my sorrows. The wild

760
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.440
I'll get you, I'll get you
one. I'll get you one. But

761
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:46.400
I've got connections the wild Man as
segment of sports for the out of Sorts

762
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:52.599
on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. And he would he would probably disagree,

763
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.599
probably say he's happy, go lucky. He's very, very content all

764
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:59.719
the time, almost has a smile
on his face, a little spring in

765
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:02.760
his death. But I've found him
to be a little bit out of sorts

766
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.480
from time to time. He's a
human being. I mean, what else.

767
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.119
It happens to all of us.
And I don't mind if he's a

768
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:14.960
little angry, but I hope he's
not. Let's find out. I'm talking

769
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.360
of course about the fur Ball Andy
Furman, and he's joining us now on

770
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:22.840
the night Camp. Hello, Andy, how are you feeling? It's called

771
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:27.079
constipation when you're constipated. That's when
you don't feel good. That's when you're

772
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.320
irritable. Okay, that's what it's
called. Say it, you can get

773
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.800
it out. I'm not constipated now. Ok So I was going to ask,

774
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.239
did we all pray for you to
have diarrhea so you can fix the

775
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:45.599
problem. But apparently you've had some
movement. I think that's rather a personal

776
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.840
question. But I had a pretty
damn good movement. How's that? I

777
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.920
eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, which is good? You know what.

778
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:57.159
I This is not an endorsement,
and I will let everyone know what's

779
00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:04.000
expensive as all get out, but
balance of nature works pretty good. You

780
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:09.199
ever tried that little cat? There
are little capsules of actual fruits and veggies,

781
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:13.760
and you're supposed to take three of
them a day of each, the

782
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:17.880
fruits and the vegetable. But it's
supposed to give you your compliment of vegetables

783
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.400
and fruits that you should have to
have a happy, healthy lifestyle. And

784
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:29.840
obviously you're getting it the old fashioned
way, which surprises me because almost every

785
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:32.719
other time I talk to you,
you're going to like a chili parlor and

786
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:38.360
getting Cooney's. That doesn't sound very
healthy to me or white cattle. You

787
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:43.159
know what, white cat. Every
once in a while you could treat you.

788
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.679
So we call it cheat days.
You know, as far as the

789
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:47.639
bodies can sew with exercise, that's
what we do, is a cheat day.

790
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.880
But you know what, I got
bigger, better things to talk about

791
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.480
my freaking stomach. Okay, all
right, better because let me tell you

792
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.159
what's going on right now. Obviously
Reds Baseball's right around the corner a little

793
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:01.480
more than a week about days.
But we've got this NT Double A tournament,

794
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:06.320
and I have no idea who the
brain trust is of the NT Double

795
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.400
A or college basketball. What do
I mean by that? The games were

796
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:14.440
on Sunday and then Sunday night they
had the selection deal, all right,

797
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.960
they had the selection show, and
then on Monday to have the portal.

798
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:24.480
Tell me why and who the great
brains of our world today would decide to

799
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:29.679
have the portal open up on Monday
when the tournament is starting. So,

800
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.119
in other words, if my team
is in the Anti Double A tournament,

801
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:36.079
and I got a guy on my
team, maybe who's a sixth man not

802
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.400
playing much, and he was forced
to play on Thursday in the tournament,

803
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:42.199
he's coming over to the day coach. You know what, I'm not real

804
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.480
happy I'm going to go in the
portal? What? Who does this?

805
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.960
What? First of all, I'm
not a bit fan of the portal anyway,

806
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:52.559
but I guess if college coaches could
go from heath the team and they

807
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.599
can move, I guess players can
move too. But to combat that the

808
01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:00.239
years ago, he used to have
a sitout rule for a year. That's

809
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.400
gone down the two too. So
I just don't get it. I don't

810
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:07.400
understand the entire process. But why
would you have the portal opening up on

811
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.119
Monday? Tell me? I know, I don't know. It's the same

812
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:17.440
reason that when a coach changes jobs
in college football that you have you have

813
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:21.440
to change. You have to jump
to that new job before your your team's

814
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.440
bowl game. You work for all
season long, and you're in a bowl

815
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:29.199
and I don't care. I mean, if it's a national championship, maybe

816
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:35.039
that wouldn't happen. But they're important
to the universities and to the alums and

817
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.400
to the kids who were playing for
you. I don't understand why they don't

818
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:44.440
have a rule in the NCAA where
you can't change jobs until after the season

819
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.199
is completed. You can't do it
because to me, because to me,

820
01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:52.599
a bowl game is still part of
your season. It's not. I know

821
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.400
it's an extra game, but it's
still part of your team season. And

822
01:02:55.440 --> 01:03:00.719
you shouldn't be able to jump ship
until you fit your season. And the

823
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:07.880
NCAA Tournament is a bonus for teams
that played particularly well. It's a reward

824
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:13.159
for those players, and there's coaches, and you shouldn't be able to transfer

825
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:17.079
anywhere until your season. I eat
your season, not the regular season.

826
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:22.039
Your season is over. What do
you think about that? I'm so proud

827
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:24.920
of you. I didn't think you
had it in you for You're exactly rightless.

828
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:30.400
We saw that first hand here in
town when Brian Kelly bolted out of

829
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.880
UC. They're gonna know to day
that's what we're all right. That's what

830
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.840
he did. He missed the ballgame. You work your butt off all year

831
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.000
long to try to get into a
ball game. You finally do it.

832
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:43.400
The kids are there, the coaches
that hot, everybody's there and beingal what

833
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.800
happens to have that dinner? He
doesn't go to the dinner or shows up

834
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.719
later announce it that the dinner that
he's gonna believe to go to know your

835
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:54.119
Dame? Right. That was the
most ridiculous thing I saw, Almost as

836
01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:58.960
bad as the portal. It was
terrible, really, you see, High

837
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:03.480
and Dry. Didn't Fickle do the
same thing, though, I don't remember

838
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:08.079
what Fickle left, But was UC
going to a bold I mean, I

839
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.760
forget, I don't remember, honestly, all right, what no, But

840
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:15.119
you're right. The Brian Kelly thing
is the most glaring because it was one

841
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:19.880
of the more hope, high profile
coaching changes that year, him going to

842
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:26.280
Notre Dame and leaving UC High and
Dry after he had just you know,

843
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:30.800
that's the other thing that always kids
me. I don't listen to a damn

844
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:35.519
word any of these coaches say when
they're asked by reporters, or they even

845
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:41.440
even when they make a commitment to
the university they're currently at by signing a

846
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:45.679
new contract. I don't listen to
a damn word they say when they said

847
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.960
that they're committed to UC or they're
committed to this institution or that one,

848
01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:53.599
because they lie all the damn time. And you know what, Brian Kelly

849
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:58.519
did, his little carpet bag move
up to a Notre Dame and and and

850
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.760
you know what, Yeah, he
wound up in a rolled up newspaper on

851
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.800
his nose. He made a lot
of money, but he certainly, certainly,

852
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:08.000
I don't think he elevated his status
as a college coach. He landed

853
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.400
the job at LSU, and everybody
wants to coach in the SEC. But

854
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:16.039
you know what, I haven't seen
any evidence that Brian Kelly is more highly

855
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:19.679
regarded as a college football coach than
he was when he was leading the University

856
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:26.840
of Cincinnati to that wonderful, unheard
of success here. And I'm just but

857
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:30.400
again, there's no reason to listen
to these coaches, whether it's basketball or

858
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:35.119
football. And they've signed a new
contract with the current university and then you

859
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:39.840
know, two days later, they
announced that they're going somewhere else. I

860
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.679
think they're all a bunch of vipers, a bunch of liars. Andy,

861
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:47.639
They're they're lying their teeth, lieing
their teeth out except one except one.

862
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.079
And I got a quick story for
you about that. But let me just

863
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.400
get this up by chest because I'm
making this not a prediction. It's gonna

864
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:57.559
happen. Bob Huggins is going to
be a next coach at University of Louisville.

865
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:00.679
Write it down, put it in
blood. Huggin there's the number one

866
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:03.719
selection. He's the number one pick
for Louisville right now. They want him.

867
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:06.840
Whatever happens legally, I don't know, but Bob Huggins will be coaching

868
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:11.239
the Cardinals of Louisville next season.
You heard it here. That's number one,

869
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.440
number two. It's talking about coaches
that lie and try to get away

870
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.199
with things. There's one coach who
didn't lie, Dan Munson at Long Beach

871
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:20.239
State. Did you hear a story
about this guy? It's unbelievable. He

872
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.639
goes out to the athletic director of
the other day right before the tournament,

873
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:27.199
that Postseedson tournament. He says,
you know what, I think I've had

874
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:29.800
enough, but then I'm gonna leave, and then I'm gonna quit. So

875
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.400
the athletic third says, you know, yeah, that's okay, but they're

876
01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:34.719
gonna fire the guy. And they
said, but you know what, I

877
01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:38.079
owe it to the kids. I
owe to the death. Sound gonna state

878
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:40.199
till the end of the season,
till the end of the tournament, and

879
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:42.719
then I'm gonna pack it in and
go all right, that's fine. What

880
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:46.679
did he do? Long Beach State
goes out and wins three straight games and

881
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:50.039
they're in the NCAA Tournament. How
do you like that? Now they're gonna

882
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:55.360
play Arizona in the first round.
I doubt very seriously on the fifteen seed

883
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:58.840
they're gonna beat the number two seed
Arizona. But what a great situation.

884
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.400
He stayed for kids. They came
back and rallied for him. They won

885
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:06.880
three straight games. They're in the
NTUAA Tournament. What's the athletics than they're

886
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.239
gonna do? Is theyre going to
hire him back? Now? It's unbelievable.

887
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.039
He's got him back to the wall. This Dan Muns has been around.

888
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:16.199
He's coached a couple of teams across
the country. He coached in Minnesota.

889
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:18.719
He's a pretty dun good coach.
But you know what, he deserves

890
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.880
better than Long Beach State, and
he deserves a better athletic director than that

891
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:26.679
led this team to the Anti DOUBLEA, and boy where he get egg on

892
01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.559
his face the athletic director. If
Wale Beach State could come back and beat

893
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.880
Arizona in the first round, that
would be great. All right, let's

894
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:38.480
backtrack just a moment on your first
point about Bob Huggins being the new head

895
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:42.599
coach at the University of Louisville.
I just got off the phone before you

896
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:47.840
and I were talking with another person
who thinks they're a sports impresario, who

897
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:53.559
thinks they're they're one of the what
Gary Burbank to call him the officionados.

898
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:59.679
You're an officionado. This guy considers
himself to be an officionado. His name's

899
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:02.239
Dennis Walker. You've heard of him, the wild Man. And he said,

900
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:06.599
I don't know, I don't know, but I want hugs at Louisville.

901
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:11.599
You know, the job's still open, and he believes that there's still

902
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:15.119
a chance Huggins can be named the
head coach at Louisville. But ye,

903
01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:19.720
you're saying, you're saying, definitely
it's going to happen, right, I

904
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:24.439
say, less something miraculously happens.
It's sort of a done deal. Well,

905
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:28.680
he's going to assigned the papers and
he's there, well happy, But

906
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:32.119
I'm here people on the social media. I put this on social media bout

907
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:35.039
a week ago, and I'm here
at people are he's a ball, he's

908
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:40.199
a drunk. He's wait a minute, any sudden bing Hall of Fame drunk.

909
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:44.319
Okay, he west in peace,
Rick Patino, chet Bingo. How

910
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.279
many Tuggses he had? You get
a second if you're talented, and Huggins

911
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:50.439
is talented, he's a Hall of
Famer. He'll get a job, and

912
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:54.800
he's going to be a Louisville that's
wonderful. I mean, two weeks ago

913
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:57.800
you were saying he was going to
be the head coach at Ohio State.

914
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.279
Andy, So I didn't see going
to be. I said I'd like to

915
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.600
see him at Ohio State. That's
what I said. You don't put words

916
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:05.800
in my mouth I said. I
said I'd like to see Huggins get the

917
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:10.279
job at Ohio State simply because he
had some Ohio roots and he's been at

918
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.640
wallsh and he knows the state.
But this is more of a done deal.

919
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:15.319
I would have loved to see him
at Ohio State, but there was

920
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:19.840
no there was no conversation between Huggins
and Ohio State. There's been some conversation

921
01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:24.880
between Louisville and Huggins. You know, if it doesn't happen something that the

922
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.560
eleventh hour back down, but I
believe it's gonna happen. Well, last

923
01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:32.680
last segment, wild Man also brought
up the possible specter of Mick pronin coming

924
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:38.880
to Louisville. I you know what, you know, he did coach there.

925
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:42.199
He coached there, He was on
the bench with Rich Bettino. I

926
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.960
don't see that happening, although really
and truly it wouldn't be a bit idea

927
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.560
simply because they're going into a meat
grinder. You know, the PAC twelve

928
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:54.039
is basically gone. There's two teams
left to where they're going. They went

929
01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:58.159
to the Big Ten I mean obviously
to go to Louisville and compete in the

930
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:02.039
ACC. I think the ACC is
not as strong obviously as the Big ten

931
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:05.439
and a better chance to win.
There's a meat grinder, the SEC,

932
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:09.479
the Big Twelve, the Big Ten, all those conferences. You know,

933
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.800
on a nightly basis, you get
your head banged in at the ACC.

934
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:16.000
It could certainly dominate, and Lloydsville
as the opportunity to dominate at one time

935
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:18.960
they did, and I think they
could do it again with the right coach.

936
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:23.560
Do you have any dark horse favorites
for the Big Dance, Andy,

937
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:28.880
Any teams you'd like to see advance, any teams that you think may surprise

938
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:33.159
people, what have you seen?
And you're you're you're very very clairvoyant,

939
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:38.560
Crystal Ball, Andy Furman. That
tells you this team or that team really

940
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:42.720
has a chance to go for the
gold. Well, as we sit here

941
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.680
right now, you got to say
that the peribitive favor in this University of

942
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:48.359
Connecticut, I think the head and
shoulders above everybody else. I like Florida

943
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.800
Atlantic. I tell you why they
were there last year. They made the

944
01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:55.039
Final four, and I basically have
the same team coming back. You know.

945
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.359
As far as sleepers and teams that
may be dark horses or you know,

946
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:00.880
the cindere Is, you know,
honestly, there's gonna be a lot

947
01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:03.199
of them. Because I think one
team Cannock go off. Any other team

948
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:06.439
Creighton crighton's a possible. I like
Creighton a lot. I really do.

949
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:10.560
Look at the draw that these teams
are in. I think Creighton's in a

950
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:13.720
very favorable drawer. Then they could
really go deep. Other than that,

951
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.479
I mean, uh, you know, Connecticut. I thought Tennessee was gonna

952
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:19.479
be a factor early on. They're
gonna turn it around now, Rick Barnes

953
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:24.199
gonna get it together. They were
they were awful down the stretch. Kentucky

954
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:27.560
beat him up, Saily good and
next thing you know, Tennessee went down

955
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.119
the cropper. But I like Kentucky
if they can play a little defense.

956
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:36.000
I think Kentucky to go deep.
I really do. If if yeah,

957
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:41.119
yeah, if fine. I talked
to the wild man. Uh last segment,

958
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:43.760
Andy, I hate to refer back
to that again, but you know

959
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:47.039
there if if Oakland scores ninety points
against UK on Thursday, it's over.

960
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:55.640
They're done. There's there's no reason
are you quoting. Why is wild in

961
01:11:55.720 --> 01:12:00.520
the Barabada of sports in this marketplace? Why are you quoting in acording him?

962
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:01.520
You don't need name? Well,
no, no, no, I

963
01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:05.520
need you both see, because I
get a balanced I get a more balanced

964
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:13.000
kind of feel and conversation. Everything
I say, everything I say, you

965
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.039
go back and to a wild man
said this, who gives a ratsass?

966
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.239
You're right what he said, You're
right, you're the death I do.

967
01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:23.399
But come on, really, you're
absolutely correct, and I apologize and I'll

968
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:27.239
never bring up that name again.
Oh I love it. You can bring

969
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:30.880
up his name, but you know
it's not like a talking point. Come

970
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.840
on, really, okay? Well, uh so, so, anyway,

971
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:40.279
you like fau to be in the
final four again, I think they could

972
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:42.880
be. I really do. I
like Creighton, Creighton to be in the

973
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:45.720
final four. I think Creighton will
be there. I really do like Cighton.

974
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.039
I like Coote. Greg McDermot,
I thin he's a hell of a

975
01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:53.239
coach. Always like Greg mc dermot. You know, I like these guys.

976
01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:56.600
Why because when I reach out,
I reach out to a lot of

977
01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.359
these plays, these coaches, I
write to them, you know. And

978
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:01.760
and I remember several years ago and
I was doing Fox Sports Radio the Sunday

979
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:05.560
night, the night of selection Sunday. I reached out to Greg McDermott,

980
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.760
and he went on the radio with
me. You know what think that is.

981
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:10.520
I mean, that's a big deal. I mean, to me,

982
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:13.359
that's a big deal. I mean, most of these guys that call me

983
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:16.520
back. I'll give you an example, Sky Boyton pointing the coach o' call

984
01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:19.039
in the state. He just got
canned the other day. All right,

985
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:23.079
you've been there seven years. He
made the NT double a one time,

986
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:25.880
one time in seven years. He
got fired. All right, So I

987
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:29.600
called him up about a year ago. Guy played high school bawl in Brooklyn,

988
01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:32.039
all right, for the Brooklyn Dailey
Eagle and I played for Bishop Locklan

989
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:35.359
High School. Feeld be a nice
feature, so I said, told the

990
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:39.479
coach point, oh, you gotta
go through this. Put it in writing.

991
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:42.600
Well, sence, I'll send it. You know what, kiss my

992
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:45.399
rear end you know what to be
in the newspaper in your hometown and the

993
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:47.439
Brooklyn Eagle. Screw you. He
got fired the other day. Okay,

994
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:50.720
good good. I'm not happy he
got fired. I'm not happy anybody gets

995
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:54.359
fired. But you've got to be
a nice guy. Gotta be a nice

996
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:57.720
guy. I just ort a congratulatory
letter the other day to Herb send Deck.

997
01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:00.319
You remember Herb send Deck used to
go to Miami. Okay, he

998
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.880
coaches the state. Yeah, he's
great guy. He coaches at Saint Mary's.

999
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:06.439
Now, right, I checked my
mouth today. Sends me a card

1000
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:11.600
back great here from here. That's
a class guy. That's a class guy,

1001
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:15.319
s Mary's. If they pay attention
to you, what have they What

1002
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.079
have you done for me lately?
Is the firm and attitude? Right?

1003
01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:20.800
Oh, it's this other what they
do for me? You know, you're

1004
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:26.840
showing me that you have you know, your character, you're course a man?

1005
01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:29.680
Yeah, you do? You have
class. You know. Give you

1006
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:32.880
another example. A good friend of
mine, he used to coach Bryant College

1007
01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:36.279
and Rhode Island, got in trouble. His name is Jared Grosso. I

1008
01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:40.000
was good friends with his dad,
and his dad played at my high school.

1009
01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:43.159
Fred Grosso, may he rest in
peace. Great player. Had a

1010
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:45.960
try with the Denver Rockets of the
old A B A all right, and

1011
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:49.399
uh. He was good friend with
Rick Patino. Patino was supposed to hire

1012
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:53.800
his coach assistant coach with the Knicks. But Patino coached the Knicks, all

1013
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:56.439
right. Patino gave him a chef. It didn't happen, all right.

1014
01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:00.840
So my buddy, Jared the son
lost his job at Ryant this year.

1015
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.159
So I wrote to Patino. I
said, dear Rick, I said,

1016
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:06.800
you know, Jared, Freddie's son's
out of a job. Benine, you

1017
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:10.439
put him on the staff if you
can help me now, just for Freddy's

1018
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:14.159
sake, but never hurt from the
guy. I'm glad that Saint John's didn't

1019
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:16.079
get in to the NCAA. Told
me, you know why, it's all

1020
01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:19.840
about Rick Patino. It's all about
me, me, me, It's all

1021
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:24.840
about Patino knocking the system. They
didn't deserve to win. They didn't deserve

1022
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:27.960
to be in there. You know, if North Carolina would have taken care

1023
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:31.079
of business in the acc maybe they
would have got in then. But North

1024
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.680
Carolina State won five games in five
days. They got in, all right.

1025
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:40.000
So Patino got the squeeze and he's
yelling and screaming troop Ricky. It

1026
01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:42.680
is a one. It is an
exciting time of the year, and I'm

1027
01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:46.600
glad that you are matching that excitement
level tonight. Andy. Remember you can't

1028
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:57.720
spell Furman without without you an M
A N. Goodbye? Were you forced

1029
01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:01.800
to get a nosebleed mortgage? On
the cop of this night? Cash on

1030
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:08.039
seven hundred l W joining us IT
expert. When you want to talk about

1031
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:13.199
the Internet of Things world, this
guy has it spinning on his finger,

1032
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:17.079
just like pistol pete parrabish, and
he just keeps spinning that so he knows

1033
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:21.359
all about the ins and outs and
want to watch out mostly what to watch

1034
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:26.640
out for. Occasionally there's good news. We'll see if there's any tonight.

1035
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:30.399
Dave Hatter, good evening. How
are you? I am great here,

1036
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.920
Jeff? How are you? I'm
all right? I'm all right. I

1037
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:40.239
have found one little bit of good
news in the stuff that you send me

1038
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:47.000
every week to talk about. And
here it is. I'm majority of teens

1039
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:54.520
feel happy, peaceful without smartphones,
according to a survey. Well surprised.

1040
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:57.720
I hope they didn't spend a lot
of money on this survey because I could

1041
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:01.520
have pretty much predicted that outcome.
But anyway, what we got there,

1042
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:06.039
Yeah, I'm with you. I
think this is good news. Pew did

1043
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:13.680
a study and they found that teens
between the ages of thirteen and seventeen overall

1044
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:17.479
seem to be happier when they don't
have their cell phone stuck in their face.

1045
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:21.079
Now, as a father of four
kids, the oldest twenty eight and

1046
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:25.520
the younger fifteen, you know,
all of my kids have grown up during

1047
01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:30.039
this mobile phone era. All of
them spent a lot of time on it.

1048
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:31.560
You know, my older kids are
now off doing their own thing,

1049
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:34.239
and I think they've, you know, to a large extent, gotten away

1050
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:36.960
from it. My youngest is now, you know, the one I have

1051
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:43.159
to worry about with this stuff,
and you know, he spends more time

1052
01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:45.720
on it than I would like,
but he's not just completely collude to the

1053
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.039
thing. And I think you're right
here, Jeff again, I think there's

1054
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:55.720
some hope in these findings. So
perfew, a grand total of about seventy

1055
01:17:55.720 --> 01:18:00.560
four percent said they're happy without their
phone. That was thirty two So they

1056
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.560
often feel happy, yeah, thirty
two percent, often, forty two percent

1057
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:09.079
sometimes so happy. It's seventy four
percent total. And then forty seven percent

1058
01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:13.199
said they're sometimes peaceful, and twenty
five percent said they're often peaceful of no

1059
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:17.359
phot Now there's still a significant number
of kids. And the other three buckets

1060
01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:20.960
stay tested, which were anxious,
upset, and lonely, who said they

1061
01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:26.279
felt you know, often or sometimes
anxious, upset or lonely, but that

1062
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:30.800
that ranked in like the forties at
the high point. So I think we're

1063
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.319
moving in the right direction, and
hopefully our society as a whole is realizing

1064
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:41.039
there's more things in life than the
phone and the incredibly addictive and incredibly privacy

1065
01:18:41.159 --> 01:18:45.880
destroying apps that people spend so much
time on on these devices. Well,

1066
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:49.439
I know that I and I'm certainly
a long way from being a teen God

1067
01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:56.960
knows, but I I know I'm
always happy. If I forget my phone,

1068
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:00.600
I'll just look at my wife and
I are out to go. You

1069
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:02.279
got your phone. She goes,
yeah, okay, good because I don't

1070
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:05.479
have mine and I don't want mine. In fact, why didn't you leave

1071
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:13.479
yours? It's nice to be it's
nice to be off of the so called

1072
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:17.520
grid every once in a while,
Dave. I couldn't agree with the mortgage,

1073
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:20.039
Jeff. I mean, as a
guy who spends the enormous amount of

1074
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:26.039
time sitting behind and working on a
computer and hands for a thirty plus years.

1075
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:29.399
Now, yeah, it does not
hurt my feelings at all to get

1076
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:31.359
off the grid, go outside,
get some vitamin D, and just get

1077
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.960
away from technology. In general.
It's a good thing. Everyone needs to

1078
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:39.399
do it more often. Well,
And the thing is, and I said

1079
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:45.039
get off the grid kind of slyly
because that's getting increasingly more difficult with all

1080
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:49.239
of the surveillance. We've got satellites
going up next year that can pinpoint anyone

1081
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:56.840
anywhere around the world and know exactly
where you are anywhere on the globe.

1082
01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:01.159
So I'm just gonna take every little
nu of good news I can get and

1083
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:05.520
digest that and try not to worry
too much about the rest, because it's

1084
01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:11.720
all coming whether I worry about it
or not. Like this, the White

1085
01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:17.159
House warrens cars made in China could
unleash chaos on US highways. Well,

1086
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:25.960
duh again, you and I have
talked about autonomous cars and about the internet

1087
01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:32.359
connectivity of all automobiles. Everything is
hooked up, whether it's your GPS or

1088
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:41.720
your satellite radio or your car itself
signaling back to the maker of your car,

1089
01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:45.039
who then relays the information to your
insurance company and jacks up your rates

1090
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:51.039
because you went ten miles over the
speed limit on the highway. So anyway,

1091
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:55.760
there is this. And Donald Trump
was just talking this weekend about cars

1092
01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:59.960
made in China and made in Mexico
coming over here and him slapping huge terror.

1093
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:05.439
That's a different story as he was
talking to autoworkers. But there is

1094
01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:15.359
there is a possible glut of Chinese
made cars with Chinese technology that can track

1095
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:19.159
or can do any number of things
to the automobile you happen to be driving.

1096
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:24.439
If if you're driving one of those, just explain some of the dangers

1097
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:27.960
if you will, about this.
Yeah, Gary, Jeff, I'm glad

1098
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:31.479
you brought this up, And honestly, I'm glad to see the Biden administration

1099
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:35.279
raising concerns about this. I mean, everything you said is exactly right,

1100
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:40.399
and interestingly enough, and doing some
research to talk about this with you today,

1101
01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:43.079
I found the Wired story on it. You know, Wired is a

1102
01:21:43.479 --> 01:21:46.159
tech magazine slash site, and so
here's the Wired headline. The White House

1103
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:49.760
warns cars made of trying to unleast
stay out from the US highways. And

1104
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:54.880
as I was reading through that article, I see a link to This is

1105
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:59.960
a Wired article from twenty fifteen,
so almost ten years ago. Hackers remotely

1106
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:01.720
kill a jeep on the highway with
me in it. And this was a

1107
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:06.159
Wired reporter. So we've probably talked
about this before, because every once in

1108
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:10.000
a while I like to bring this
up. But as far back as twenty

1109
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:14.399
fifteen, and even prior to that, experts were raising concerns about our increasingly

1110
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:17.319
interconnected cars. Now you mentioned Internet
of things, right, we now have

1111
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:21.680
these so called smart devices. Are
refrigerator smart, our doorbell is smart.

1112
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:27.399
And I'm using that term as facetiously
as possible. Thoroughly despise all of these

1113
01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.479
things because they're all privacy and security
gumpster fires. And you know, the

1114
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:34.840
Wired story goes to show that it
led to an actual recall from Preifer on

1115
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:39.880
a whole bunch of vehicles because hackers
were able to get in and you know,

1116
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:44.119
discombobulate the engine and do all kinds
of things while this Wired reporter was

1117
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:48.039
driving this thing that was twenty fifteen. Do you think your car is more

1118
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:54.279
computer or less computer now, Gary, Yeah, Well, I tell you

1119
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:58.079
what I'm dry. One of our
cars is at twenty twelve, and I'm

1120
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:02.479
so glad it's got just no technology
for creature comfort and no more than I

1121
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:09.159
need, and a lot harder to
be tracked or finagled with from a remote

1122
01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:13.920
source. So I'm happy about that. And that's increasingly important, as these

1123
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:18.319
stories shows. So now you get
into a scenario where you have Chinese companies

1124
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:23.119
building cars that they want to dump
in the American market that are essentially rolling

1125
01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:26.479
computers. And I'd also like to
point out to folks, if you want

1126
01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:30.720
more information on this outside of the
Chinese car angle of it, Mozilla,

1127
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:33.199
the people that make the Firefox browser, put out a study late last year

1128
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:39.439
about how all modern car brands are
rolling computers. They all collect enormous amounts

1129
01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:45.159
of information about you. Recent story
hit the press about how these car companies

1130
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:49.760
are now selling this data in many
cases and insurance companies are now jacking up

1131
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:55.600
people's premiums or canceling their policies as
a result. Nissan just had a huge

1132
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:59.880
data breach, so you know,
all this really sensitive information that they're collecting

1133
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.000
from your car could have been leaked
in that breach. You know, you

1134
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:06.560
plug your phone into the car,
it's got all your contacts, it's tracking

1135
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:11.560
everything that you're doing. So you
know, this is not a problem exclusive

1136
01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:15.119
to Chinese cars by any stretch of
the imagination. All car manufacturers are doing

1137
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:19.640
this. Again, I encourage people
go check out this Mozilla report. I

1138
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:23.920
think most people who have bought a
car in the last couple of years will

1139
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:27.760
be shocked by what it is capable
of, and most likely he is doing

1140
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.159
so. Now fast forward to this
idea that you're going to buy a car

1141
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:33.159
made in China. Now, you
know, we've just spent all this time

1142
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:38.119
recently on TikTok. You and I
have talked about TikTok many times. I'm

1143
01:24:38.119 --> 01:24:41.359
not a TikTok fan. I'd love
to see TikTok go away, although I'm

1144
01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:45.239
not sure this bill in Congress is
the right way to go about it.

1145
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.560
We're worried about TikTok for a variety
of reasons, not the least of which

1146
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:53.680
is the aggressive data collection. You
know again, I think the primary issue

1147
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:58.520
with TikTok is that the persuasion,
flash propaganda capabilities. But why they would

1148
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:00.680
be able to do that through your
car? They would also and so again

1149
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:06.239
we're going to have our primary adversary
in the world delivering cars to the United

1150
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:11.199
States that they could potentially remotely control, not only to steal your data,

1151
01:25:11.399 --> 01:25:15.600
not only to propagandize you, but
as many experts have pointed out, over

1152
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:23.199
time, these increasingly autonomous cars,
increasingly computerized cars, could be turned into

1153
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:27.479
weapons. Whether it's at five PM
on a Friday night, I'm going to

1154
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:32.199
shut down every Model X from manufacturer
Y car, whether it's American or Chinese

1155
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:38.039
or not, or I'm just gonna
I'm going to make all the models of

1156
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:42.079
this car just accelerate right. You
won't be able to control it. We

1157
01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:46.800
saw the story about Mitch McConnell's sister
in law who somehow managed to back a

1158
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:50.720
Tesla into a lake and drown.
Imagine for a second, Gary jest,

1159
01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:57.560
we get into some sort of real
world hot war kinetic type situation with China,

1160
01:25:58.119 --> 01:26:01.199
and hundreds of thousands and millions of
Chinese cars suddenly just become weapons.

1161
01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:05.399
They all just accelerate until they run
into something that is not far fetched.

1162
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:10.000
That's where we're at with this.
It's so I'm very happy to see the

1163
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:15.039
Biden administration raising concerns about this.
And the last thing we need is a

1164
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.520
highway full of cars made by our
number one adversary in the world. Amen.

1165
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:26.399
Amen, you're talking about TikTok and
my rep. And I guess he's

1166
01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:29.720
your Rep. Too. In Kentucky, Thomas Massey, when the TikTok ban

1167
01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:36.439
vote came up, voted no on
the ban, and he illuminated a couple

1168
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:41.800
of really important reasons why he voted
no against banning TikTok, and this particular

1169
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:47.760
legislation was that it gives the president, any president, the power to determine,

1170
01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:54.119
you know, if something should be
banned. The language in the bill

1171
01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:57.920
just was problematic for Tom, But
I'm with you. Something has to be

1172
01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:01.640
done about TikTok's and flows in this
country. And the last thing you need

1173
01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:06.239
is TikTok in your car for God's
sake. All right? Yeah, so

1174
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:12.680
has the two for one and as
there So here we go. A mysterious

1175
01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:16.359
leak exposed Chinese hacking secrets. Another
story from Wired. We're talking with Dave

1176
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:21.279
Hadder in the nightcab. Dave tell
me about this, well, you know,

1177
01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:28.119
it's it's a great segue from the
TikTok Chinese car conversation we were having.

1178
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:30.800
And I don't know if you've happened
to pay much attention to the news

1179
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.079
today, Gary, Jeff, But
and this this is not just exclusive from

1180
01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:39.600
the day, but over over the
past month or so, there have been

1181
01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:44.399
a lot of stories out there.
Here's one. USA is still sorry,

1182
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:48.319
US is still chasing down pieces of
Chinese hacking operation and essay official says,

1183
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:54.359
and you know, it's well known
and has been well known for a long

1184
01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:59.439
time. But again the Chinese and
I'm gonna I don't have the quote in

1185
01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:02.560
front of me, I'm going to
paraphrase here. You know, FBI Director

1186
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:09.399
Christopher Ray has been raising concerns about
Chinese hacking on critical infrastructure. They're well

1187
01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:13.119
known to have been, you know, doing industrial spionage and stealing trade see

1188
01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:15.840
to hacking for a long time.
I mean, just go look at their

1189
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:18.600
new fighter jet. It looks amazingly
like ours. Go look at their new

1190
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:24.720
commercial airliners. It looks amazingly like
ours. I'm sure they've spent you know,

1191
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:28.600
billions of dollars in research and development, working hard behind the scenes to

1192
01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:32.479
pull those off, right or no, they just steal that data from American

1193
01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:36.039
companies and American defense contractors and so
forth. So again, this is not

1194
01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:43.079
a new concept, but as some
of these hacking efforts get revealed, you

1195
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:46.239
know, it provides some really interesting
insight into the fact that China continues to

1196
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:53.279
be And again i'll paraphrase Director Ray
here. He said recently that they believe

1197
01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:58.720
that they have like fifty times the
number of people in these offensive type hacking

1198
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:01.840
positions versus other countries like the United
States. You know, it's a huge

1199
01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:05.800
country. They have deep pockets,
lots of resources, and they're working around

1200
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:11.640
the clock to steal our secrets of
other secrets, as well as potentially planted

1201
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:16.520
ransomware and other types of backdoors of
software into systems so that they cannot only

1202
01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:21.520
steal trade secrets to military secrets,
you know, steal money, cause chaos,

1203
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:25.960
create disruption and dissent in the United
States, but in the event of

1204
01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:30.239
an actual war, you know,
cause chaos and shut the grid down,

1205
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:32.960
turn off your transportation systems, turn
their cars into weapons. I mean,

1206
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:38.319
it's really pretty insane. And for
people that aren't paying attention to this and

1207
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:42.680
aren't taking this seriously, both from
a perspective of what am I doing as

1208
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:46.399
an individual to try to get more
serious about cybersecurity and my impact on it,

1209
01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:50.760
as well as what is my organization
doing? Am I taking steps to

1210
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:58.399
defend against these things? You know, I'll quote now outbound or outgoing an

1211
01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:02.079
essay Director General Paul and I to
Sony, cybersecurity is national security. That's

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01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:05.199
where we're at with this stuff.
And you know, yes, we have

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01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:11.960
other adversaries like Russia and North Korea
and Iran who have advanced capabilities. You

1214
01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:15.720
know, these China, Russia,
Iran in North Korea are kind of known

1215
01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:19.880
as the the access of evil when
it comes to cybersecurity. They all have

1216
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:25.119
advanced capabilities. They're all hacking stuff
all the time, but the Chinese have,

1217
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:29.880
you know, generally much larger capabilities, and as we continue to find

1218
01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:32.840
out by uncovering these things, you
know, have been very aggressive about this

1219
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:38.039
for a long time. It's it's
a major concern in my mind from the

1220
01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:43.199
standpoint of someday the grid just goes
out, or someday the trains can't run,

1221
01:30:43.319 --> 01:30:46.640
or the trucks to bring you your
food won't work because of these kind

1222
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:51.600
of ongoing operations. Well, you
know, and you didn't even take into

1223
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:58.439
account how many billions of dollars we've
spent reverse engineering alien technology. But that's

1224
01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:02.199
another conversation for another time. We've
got, yeah, about two minutes left,

1225
01:31:02.239 --> 01:31:08.680
and just important for people to know
when they install an app on their

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01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:14.880
phone, the things that are possible. A story about somebody who installed the

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01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:18.760
top one hundred apps on his Android
phone contacted Russia and China at night while

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01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:24.079
he slept, and he wasn't even
using the phone, right, Yeah,

1229
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:26.680
I think this is a really important
story, Gary, Jeff, And it's

1230
01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:30.119
again good segue from everything we've talked
about so far. So I have shared

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01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:33.520
this story all over Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, et cetera, anywhere that

1232
01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:39.039
I would be out on social media, because I think it's really insightful into

1233
01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:42.239
why the less apps you have,
the better. Going back to that first

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01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:45.640
story about teams spending less time on
their phone, the better, because you

1235
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:50.439
know, if you are installing a
quote free unquote app right, you are

1236
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:54.800
the product, you are not the
customer. You are paying with your data,

1237
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:58.159
not money. That's how almost all
of this stuff works. It's a

1238
01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:03.199
surveillance capitalism model. And this researcher
got a Samsung phone, basically wiped it

1239
01:32:03.239 --> 01:32:09.760
out, set everything up, downloaded
the top hundred apps from the Android store,

1240
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:12.880
and then you know, now he
gave it all the permissions that asked

1241
01:32:12.880 --> 01:32:15.720
for. He gave all these things
whatever they wanted, which is part of

1242
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.600
the problem of course, and then
just let the phone run and watch it,

1243
01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:23.319
you know, monitored what it was
doing and the amount of data that

1244
01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:26.800
the phone was sending back even though
he wasn't actively using it, was just

1245
01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:30.600
sitting there running with these apps installed, so you know, in the background,

1246
01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:34.199
they're silently doing their thing. O. For a three days time,

1247
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:41.199
six two hundred and ninety six different
requests were made by this phone despite the

1248
01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:44.680
fact that he wasn't using it.
He has had these hundred apps installed.

1249
01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:48.279
Data was being sent to Russia,
data was being sent to China of course,

1250
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:53.279
Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, you know the standard US tech

1251
01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:56.560
titans that are trying to collect as
much data about you as possible. But

1252
01:32:56.640 --> 01:33:00.560
think about that for a second two
hundred ninety six times in the course of

1253
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:05.560
three days, even though the phone
theoretically isn't being used, it's just sitting

1254
01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:10.960
there turned on with all of it. Oh. So again, my advice

1255
01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:13.920
is the less apps you have,
the better. You should check out the

1256
01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:16.399
privacy label. Go to the Apple
App Store and check out the privacy label

1257
01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:19.960
for any app before you download it. In many cases it will be shocking

1258
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:24.840
if you really understand what they're asking
for. And and then you know,

1259
01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:29.439
less apps better, less time on
these devices better. You know, any

1260
01:33:29.479 --> 01:33:33.560
app that is potentially sending your data
offshore somewhere is not going to be helpful

1261
01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:38.720
to you and our national security in
the long run. And if you can

1262
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:42.439
leave your damn phone at home,
do it. Dave Hatter, Yeah,

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01:33:42.479 --> 01:33:45.640
thank you, my friend, always
my pleasure. Gary Jeh, thank you.

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01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:48.880
All right, you got it.
Reverend Jim Harden coming up after the

1265
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:54.840
news break, Reds fans, now
is the time you get your twenty twenty

1266
01:33:54.880 --> 01:34:00.640
four season tickets so you don't miss
a most pregnancy center and just women all

1267
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:03.880
over the country and in their clinics, mainly in New York right now.

1268
01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:09.239
But we'll get into that in a
moment. Who are in pregnancies that they

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01:34:09.239 --> 01:34:16.960
didn't expect. And this is definitely
an alternate to, you know, aborting

1270
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:21.239
your baby, murdering your baby in
the womb. The folks at Compass Care

1271
01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:25.199
are doing wonderful work and this is
the man behind it all. Reverend Jim

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01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:29.439
Harden, good evening. Welcome again
to the Nightcap. Reverend good evening,

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01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:32.600
thanks for having me back. In
Jeremiah one to five, God says,

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01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:36.600
before I formed you in the womb, I knew you before you were born.

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01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:45.920
I sanctified you. How can the
people behind IVF and behind abortion get

1276
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:51.760
around what we regard to as truths, Biblical truths, and that, you

1277
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:57.399
know, it kind of kind of
pops their balloon. If you're a Bible

1278
01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:02.359
believing person and you read that verse
in chapter one of Jeremiah, then you

1279
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:11.439
understand that God views every human life
as a human life, not a fetus.

1280
01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:18.560
And the conversation about IVF has been
strong ever since the Alabama State Supreme

1281
01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:23.720
Court made their ruling a few weeks
back. Explain first, Reverend Harden,

1282
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:30.039
what the Alabama State Supreme Court ruling
on IVF in vitro fertilization said and what

1283
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:34.159
it didn't say just an over the
Yeah, this quick overview. What they

1284
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:42.199
said was that unborn children are children
for the purposes of Alabama's wrongful depth of

1285
01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:45.199
a minor Act, which means that
the two couples that filed a lawsuit against

1286
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:51.119
the fertility clinics for accidentally destroying their
embryos can be held liable for the death

1287
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:58.439
of a child. And this is
a groundbreaking moment in jurisprudence in America because

1288
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:01.600
if this goes to the US Supreme
Court, then the concept of personhood is

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01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:08.279
on the docket. That means that
the abortion industry would go away overnight if

1290
01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:12.600
the Supreme Court decides with the Alabama
Supreme Court, which basically says, look,

1291
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.960
you've got to treat all children,
no matter what their stage of life

1292
01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:20.640
or where they're located in or out
of the room, as protected under the

1293
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:27.840
law from the moment of fertilization.
This is huge. This is a massive

1294
01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:35.560
a decision that could have major ramifications
on a multi billion dollar international business and

1295
01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:42.279
that's including IVF. Now, IVF, the reason why IVF is such a

1296
01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:47.319
so key here is because they create
EMBRSS. The in virtual fertilization is third

1297
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:54.479
party assistant refuting technology that creates human
embryos for the purpose of helping women who

1298
01:36:54.479 --> 01:36:59.199
are having problems getting pregnant. And
what most you know, deep in the

1299
01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:01.039
race for people to want to have
children, and that's a good thing.

1300
01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:08.520
But what most people don't realize is
the unethical nature of how IVF process works.

1301
01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:15.479
The IVF process actually creates embryos and
then intentionally destroys those embryos at certain

1302
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:19.640
parts or in the idea of process. There's in fact two particular moments when

1303
01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:26.960
human embryos are intentionally destroyed in the
beginning if they don't meet certain criteria for

1304
01:37:27.319 --> 01:37:31.560
the purposes of what they would consider
viability of the fetus or the embryo.

1305
01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:35.880
And then once the woman gets pregnant
and they're let's just say that she's got

1306
01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:41.880
multiples that actually implanted in her uterus, then they call it reduction quote unquote

1307
01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:45.479
reduction, which is abortion as we
commonly understand it. So those two points

1308
01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:49.079
are intentional destructions of human embryos.
But there's other other points in the IVF

1309
01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:55.119
process where human embryos are destroyed accidentally, and that includes the freezing process of

1310
01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:58.319
embryos that are not used and right
now of course, most of those embryos

1311
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:01.359
don't survive the freezing process. But
right now there are six hundred thousand embryos

1312
01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:06.560
that are frozen unused without wombs to
be placed in. I think those those

1313
01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:12.079
embryos need to be placed for adoption
in willing wombs, one at a time,

1314
01:38:12.479 --> 01:38:15.279
and the IVF process needs to be
slowed way down so people can understand

1315
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:20.760
what's really happening. We've got a
moral problem in America where our technology is

1316
01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:26.159
outpacing our morality. We've got to
take a step back and really discuss what

1317
01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:30.000
it means to be human and whether
or not we should be engaging in these

1318
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:36.279
kinds of reproductive assistant technologies or in
this way. I want to focus real

1319
01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:40.359
quickly, and we've talked about it
before, Reverend Harden, but I want

1320
01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:44.760
to focus in our last few minutes
together what your mission is at Compass Care,

1321
01:38:45.079 --> 01:38:48.840
and so what you're doing right now
around the country and how that's growing.

1322
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:54.279
Oh, thank you very much.
You know, if people want to

1323
01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:57.680
learn more about how Compass Care is
saving women and babies from abortion in the

1324
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:01.039
abortion capital of the United States,
which is New York and a post Dobbs

1325
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:04.880
America, you can go to two
x dot life. That's two x dot

1326
01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:10.960
life simple, were you to go
to compasscarecommunity dot com. We are essentially

1327
01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:14.359
when a woman faces an unplanned pregnancy, she says, I'm stuck, I'm

1328
01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:17.560
trapped. I've got no other choice. I need to have an abortion.

1329
01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:21.479
And our job is to come alongside
her with all the ethical medical care and

1330
01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:27.039
comprehensive community support that she needs in
order to be able to say no to

1331
01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:31.039
abortion, to do it for true
choice, empower her with the ability to

1332
01:39:31.119 --> 01:39:34.720
say no to abortion, and for
free. All of our services are for

1333
01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:43.680
free. She doesn't pay anything,
and we're providing services ethical alternatives where women

1334
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.960
typically don't have. I mean,
there's no shortage of abortion in New York

1335
01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:50.720
State, New York State, New
York City, Brooklyn, we have a

1336
01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:55.399
medical office in Brooklyn. It's the
only pro life medical office in Brooklyn.

1337
01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:59.720
Brooklyn is the There are more abortions
in the County of Brooklyn than any other

1338
01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:02.560
care bounty in America, and we're
the only ones providing services. Also,

1339
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:06.560
we provide telecare. If you know
somebody that anywhere in the country or anywhere

1340
01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:11.199
in the world, we provide.
We provide telecare services to connect a pro

1341
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:17.039
a woman with a pro life nurse
within twenty four seconds of her online search.

1342
01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:20.840
Once she finds out she's pregnant,
we are there for her and can

1343
01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:27.000
connect her with services directly in her
area to help her have her baby.

1344
01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:30.760
So we are saving lives all across
the country. We're trying to save twice

1345
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:33.680
as many lives this year as last
year. You know, this is a

1346
01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:40.359
different world. When roversus way was
overturned two years ago June, you know,

1347
01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:42.600
the abortion industry had to change their
business model. They had to go

1348
01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:45.880
to a hub and spoke business moddel
and rely heavily on chemical abortion and send

1349
01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:49.079
these dangerous drugs to women in pro
life states. And you know, we're

1350
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:54.560
very concerned about this. The Supreme
Courts picking it up and hearing all arguments

1351
01:40:54.600 --> 01:41:00.119
in a week from now. Walgreens
and CBS have joined the Biden administration and

1352
01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:04.119
starting to sell these drugs. They
cause sepsist and hemorrhaging and one in ten

1353
01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:06.960
women and up the emergency room.
And yet it's being towered to say for

1354
01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:12.159
them talent all, this is a
war, but it's a war of ideology

1355
01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:15.640
and they're using They're putting women and
children on the altar of this war,

1356
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:16.880
and it needs to stop. We
need to we need to stop, and

1357
01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:23.600
there's specifically a Women's Health Month March. We need to stop and take a

1358
01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:27.119
take a step back and say what
is the what are we doing to America's

1359
01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:31.159
women and children through abortion? And
so that's that's what Compass cares all about,

1360
01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:36.720
all right. And and the abortion
industry, of course is making money

1361
01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:45.279
off the death of human babies and
the the mangling of women. And how

1362
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:50.439
many cases result after an abortion of
a woman being infertile or not being able

1363
01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:56.760
to have babies or making them more
difficult later on in life. Oh yes,

1364
01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:00.840
well abortion women. Many people don't
understand is that abortion creates demand for

1365
01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:05.840
in mutual fertilization because abortion does create
infertility issues. You know, if a

1366
01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:10.159
woman has an abortion, she increases
her risk of future pre term deliveries by

1367
01:42:10.239 --> 01:42:14.560
fifty five percent. And there's a
dose effect where every abortion a woman has

1368
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.680
and increases her risk of future pre
term deliveries. And a pre term delivery

1369
01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:24.119
causes mobidity and mortality of course,
death of the child, and and and

1370
01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:30.840
so you know perforated uterus PEBLC inflammatory
disease which causes internal scarring, which causes

1371
01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:34.600
ectopic pregnancies, which can cause death. All these things happen to women because

1372
01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:38.920
of abortion, and they're not being
told. There's no informed consent going on,

1373
01:42:39.119 --> 01:42:43.800
which is of course why a lot
of reasons why women need or think

1374
01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:48.000
they need IVF to help them get
pregnant. So yeah, this is this

1375
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:50.920
is chronic. It's terrible. All
you have to do is look at the

1376
01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:56.199
black community. The Black community is
fourteen percent of the nation's population, and

1377
01:42:56.239 --> 01:43:00.479
yet there's forty percent four zero percent
of the abortion burden. And you look

1378
01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:06.119
at the morbidity and mortality rates for
eternity and it's through the roof because it's

1379
01:43:06.119 --> 01:43:12.079
directly correlated to abortion. Well,
you know, Planned Parenthood formed originally by

1380
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:16.159
Margaret Sanger who wanted to eliminate inferior
people from the gene pool. Uh.

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01:43:16.479 --> 01:43:21.119
Doctor, Reverend Reverend Jim Harden,
thank you so much. Compass Care community,

1382
01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:26.720
if you'd like to know more about
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01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:12.319
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1390
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your basement leaking every time it rains, Well, get it fixed permanently.

1391
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TP on this cap on this Tuesday
night, joined by the first First Family

1392
01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:26.960
of Fitness, Don Kisses ring at
your Own Peril. Rocco Costellano joins us

1393
01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:31.920
on this nightcap, and we have
more COVID nineteen vaccine news, and it's

1394
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:38.920
not especially good. Surprise, surprise, Roco. How you doing, Oh

1395
01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:45.640
well, I'm doing great because I
didn't get the so called vaccine slash gene

1396
01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:54.520
therapy that the that about three quarters
of the United States. God. But

1397
01:44:55.159 --> 01:45:01.119
there is some very troubling news.
There's a there's some researchers out there,

1398
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:10.439
a genomic A researcher, Kevin McKernan
came out and and published. It's in

1399
01:45:10.520 --> 01:45:16.479
a preprint, so it's not being
peer reviewed just yet. But it's some

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01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:24.800
damaging news. For you know,
the whole vaccine hesitancy thing, because uh,

1401
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:29.880
in the beginning. What's what's very
very strange is that in the beginning,

1402
01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:39.079
there were many researchers, doctors and
scientists that said that that the m

1403
01:45:39.239 --> 01:45:50.079
R and a vaccine technology may contaminate
or or or what they call integrate with

1404
01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:57.279
DNA and uh, and all the
fact checkers, everybody and you know,

1405
01:45:57.439 --> 01:46:00.880
all over social media, all over
the media said that, no, that's

1406
01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:05.800
impossible, there's there's no way that
that can ever happen. I remember,

1407
01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:12.159
I remember all of this very well, and I was and even the fact

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01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:17.960
checkers, who we now know were
mostly just puppets of the pharmaceutical insure industry

1409
01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:21.760
and the government. Of course,
they said there's no way this could happen,

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but they did not have science on
their side. Apparently, well snoop

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was no, no, I don't. I don't want anybody to mention that

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organization again, it has proven to
be a leftist It's it's not what it

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started out to be. Let's put
it that way. When it comes to

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actually checking on facts, it's become
uh, it's become integrated a tool of

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the lives. Yeah, and a
tool of big government, big pharmaceuticals,

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and a tool of the left.
Absolutely, Snopes. Do not come at

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me with Snopes do for your fact
checking ever, because you're not getting valid

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fact checking from Snopes. Okay,
so let's go back to the you said.

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At the beginning, lots of people, scientists, doctors who had studied

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mRNA vaccines, including some of the
inventors of mRNA vaccines, were out there.

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Yeah. I was one of the
first ones that said that it could

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be. But then but you know, so what happened on m kernin I

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was like, you know what,
we really have to see this under like

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microscope. And so what happened was
they they tried this on cancer cells I'm

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blessed and the ovarian cancer cells,
and when they integrated it, they found

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that the fifty percent of the cells
had had the spike protein a DNA in

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the cells, so fifty percent of
them got actually integrated with the vaccine and

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despite protein was on the surface of
the cells. Now a lot of people

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say, oh, well that's rare. Well, you know what, a

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cancer to tell you, the truth
when it comes to a fruition is actually

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pretty you know, a pretty rare. We're seeing we're seeing cancer though add

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an alarming rate, and they're calling
it something that no one has ever heard

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01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:51.479
before, like twenty twenty one and
they call it turbo cancer. Now turbo

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cancer. And also the findings of
of Kevin mccernin, we want to we're

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seeing that that a cancer is absorbing
this and now proliferating. Now, yeah,

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it may be rare, but it's
still happening. And we never ever

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ever thought in a million years that
this that any that any medicine or that

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01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:30.319
any medication would actually cause something h
like this to happen so rapidly, because

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like we said, yeah you guys, Jeff No, I'm listening, go

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oh yeah. Well, like we've
said before, we all have a cancer

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01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:45.800
in US. We live with cancer
every single day because of the of the

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01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:53.680
e MPs, because of the foods
that we eat, the exposure to toll

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01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:59.760
all the elements, to chemicals,
the toxins that we become across. And

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now if you put if you put
something like this medication or this our gene

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01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:15.720
therapy into your body and you have
uh, you know, like some cancer

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01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:20.800
cells, it can now proliferate that
and that's not you know, we don't

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01:50:20.840 --> 01:50:29.680
want that because our key cells and
our U natural killer cells are made innately

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01:50:30.039 --> 01:50:36.800
to kill those cancer cells, and
now you're accelerating something with a chemical that's

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01:50:36.840 --> 01:50:42.520
absolutely insane. It isn't no.
But you know what, Rocco, you

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01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:45.600
will not You will not hear even
that that study has been conducted. I

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01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:49.239
bet you, even after it's been
peer reviewed, you will not hear that

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01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:57.720
study talked about or disseminated on MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS,

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01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:02.079
d AP, you, New York
Times, maybe the Washington Post,

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01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:09.239
probably not CNN. You won't hear
that that study has been conducted and that

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01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:15.640
they've showed that there's a possibility of
the COVID nineteen vaccine actually integrating with your

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01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:20.600
DNA inside cancer cells and accelerating that. You will never hear that anywhere else.

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01:51:20.640 --> 01:51:26.479
And that's why it's a godsend for
me to have you, so you

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01:51:26.479 --> 01:51:30.079
can tell everyone the truth. Roka, Well, but everybody you know,

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01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:35.279
and the and here's the thing.
Nobody even wants to dig a little tiny

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01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:40.600
bit, you know, a below
of the surface. And what was really

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01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:47.119
really cool about this was that that
a mccernain didn't want to well, he

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01:51:47.359 --> 01:51:54.199
wanted to make sure that it wasn't
just some some eerra or some random thing

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01:51:54.560 --> 01:52:02.399
that happened. So so he did
the DNA sequencing several times and found the

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01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:12.399
exact same chromosomes were being affected,
and that was a chromoson nine and chromosone

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01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:15.960
twelve. Well, listen, I'm
at chromoson thirteen right now, which means

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I gotta go. Thank you,
Rocco Costellano. Fitness trainer Biohecker trained with

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