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but they make sense. I have
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have no use for pessimism. I
only care if you'll fight. Welcome to

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the Chicks on the Right show man, Are you guys ever in for a

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treat today because we have with us
talk show host of The Dennis Prager Show,

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best selling author, co founder of
Praguer You he's kind of a big

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deal. He's also a periodic orchestra
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an expert about the Middle East and
about communism, and he's got a voice

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that can melt butter. Welcome to
our show, Dennis, Thank you for

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being now. I'm afraid to say
anything because I can only disappoint your audience.

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After that, what am I gonna
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your voice. Well, Dennis,
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we have this time with you,
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about what's happening all over college campuses
right now and ask you specifically if you

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saw this coming a mile away,
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violence, the protests, the signs
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question. I saw this coming when
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The thugs took over the university when
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are taking it over today. There
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I derived was not about the thugs. It was about college presidents and deans.

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I was stunned. I was twenty
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graduate student at Columbia, and I
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of Colombia at the time, whose
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left wing thugs, and did nothing. I think they were served cookies.

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in, say, with dean's offices. And so I realized at a very

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very early age, and I have
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criteria to be a college dean or
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you are disqualified from the position.
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didn't see this a mile away.
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year, fifty miles away. So
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they are like? But This is
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this is kids exercising their right to
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I'm an absolutist on the First Amendment. If you want to go around and

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say Israel should drop dead, which
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country on Earth. I just want
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claim that anti Zionism has nothing to
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country of the two hundred and twenty
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is the only Jewish country, it's
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the Jewish people. Nobody assumes anti
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order to qualify as an anti Semite. If I want Italy destroyed, I'm

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anti Italian, even if I have
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on earth and not in the make
believe world of academia. So the freedom

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of speech is not the issue.
You can't take over the campus, that's

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all exactly. You know, march
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I would you, but take over
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within a day is cowardice. Because
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for example, all the pro life
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with an I think what happened.
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Yeah, and we know why they're
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been talking a lot about that on
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because they're you know, they're against
they're anti Semites, that's why. That's

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why they're against the g right.
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but it doesn't even matter. They
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even if they are on my side, right, Okay, but here's

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the point. Conservatives don't do that. Only leftist student Yep, it's very

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it's very true. And so as
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on communism as well, I'm just
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in our minds when we've been talking
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that Israel of course has the right
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is to eradicate Hamas completely, is
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that when the when the babies like
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Is that even a possible thing to
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get rid of Hamas, how can
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governed? From nineteen thirty three to
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taught that Jews should be eradicated from
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our misfortune, that all things bad
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regime surrendered, a different ideology was
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had one of the major democracies of
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If Ramas surrendered, not one Palestinian, not one Gosin would be killed.

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But they won't surrender. Yeah,
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still they surrendered. Did anyone accuse
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people who thought the bombs were wrong, didn't say, Oh, America is

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committing genocide. Five hundred thousand people
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years have been killed in Ethiopia.
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million and there are no demonstrations about
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a really great question, because they
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they only care if Jews killed Palestinians. And it's also said, I

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think some of it has to do
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a lot of it has to do
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know, we talk about indoctrination,
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is, she's fourteen, she goes
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not taught about the Holocaust. And
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the Holocaust at school, it's blocked
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Dennis, So it's like, so
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is both of them are all Wow. I wrote a column. I write

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a column a week and half for
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the last year. I hope your
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we'll read it. And it is
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American students know nothing about evil.
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they don't know about Gulag. They
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George Washington had slaves. No I'm
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The left is a despicable force since
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and the Russian Revolution. You know
that this is just an example a completely

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different issue. But to give you
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touches, it destroys. There is
a bill in California now which may well

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pass because the Democrats can pass a
bill that the Earth is flat if they

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want. They have a supermajority and
the governor. So there is a bill

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that clear, which is a way
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pay for it at airports because it
just immediate recognition of your eyes or your

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fingerprints, you go right through.
Should be banned because it's not right that

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anybody gets in faster than anybody else. Oh God, just because you have

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the money to pay for clear.
This is really important. More evil has

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been done in the name of equality, More people have been slaughtered one hundred

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million than in the name of any
other ideology in history. Yeah, but

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it's so tempting because people envy people
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or expensive restaurants. Is it fair
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and others go to Burger King.
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that, But I mean, I
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CLEAR, but yet they're they're fast
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They're doing that. We're hearing about
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they're trying to abolish CLEAR. When
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that makes no sense. But then
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So well they they are wrong,
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If in fact equality is the greatest
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makes sense. That's why we have
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result. It's not an ideal.
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before the law, equality in God's
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to read Harrison bergeron because that's that's
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mean, this is why we always
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and saying and the fact, you
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taught from birth to hate Israel,
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kids in America are also products of
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that America is irredeemable, that we're
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institutional and there's no getting around it
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its problems morally too. On my
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admired my whole life. He's too
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prigger you video for me. I've
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if you think that the Adam bomb
over Egypt, you just said this

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on Joe Rogan two weeks ago.
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you're evil. So that means for
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forget leftists, leftists always said it
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virtually has understood it saved massive number
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surrender. So if even on our
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reason for worry. Yeah. I
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optimal. Yeah, I was going
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were, you know, because we're
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doing this for fifteen years, and
so you know, things have not gotten

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a lot better. And I was
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about things, and it doesn't sound
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right, but I want to,
I want, I need to comment on

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that. But I just want to
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ago. The amount of fight in
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it was then. Oh, there's
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are aware that defund the police is
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Than after George Floyd's death. More
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they're women in women's locker rooms and
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idea. There has to be something
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okay. You are defective. Yeah, it's not Listen, I'm for capital

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punishment, but I won't say if
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I just think you're wrong. But
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is okay for men to compete with
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way you think. There's something defective
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issue. Capital punishment is a debatable
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I mean the most elementary notion of
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optimism, so I'm asked this all
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I have no use for optimism,
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I only care if you'll fight,
and pessimists don't fight, and optimists don't

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fight. The optimist thinks things will
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God's hands. And I'm a deeply
religious person. I have a four out

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of five volume Bible commentary out.
People could check it out, The Rational

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Bible. My life is committed to
publicizing and bringing the insights of the Bible

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to people. But this notion it's
all in God's hands, Well, if

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it's all in God's hands, don't
do a damn thing watch TV. Well,

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what does that mean? It's all
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where people got that idea from.
It's not biblical. I don't know where

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they got such a stupid idea.
Oh really, so then why should I

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do anything if it's all in God's
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even pray? If it's all in
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It drives me crazy. So I
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If you're a pessimist and you'll fight
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you fight fine? Will you fight
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guys buried at Norman D. Beach, I don't know how many of them

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were optimists. Most of them peede
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Normandy Beach. Optimists don't pee in
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We have to fight our version of
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not liberalism. Liberalisms are liberals,
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or evil? How do you get
people to not be afraid? Because you

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know, we hear from people all
the time who they agree with us.

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They watch our show, they're constantly
telling us, yeah, you said it

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or whatever. I mean. They
believe in what we are talking about,

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what we're fighting for, but they're
like, but I don't want to rock

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the boat. I don't want to
lose my job. I don't want to

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get canceled. Yeah, how do
you so stress the importance of speaking out?

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That's another issue that I've dealt with
a lot. So I've been talking

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about courage all of my broadcast life
forty years, and that's the it's the

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most important trait in making a good
world. So finally I decided to give

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a speech how to become courageous,
and it's my bottom line. Almost sounds

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simplistic. It is simple, but
it's not simplistic. We are what we

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want to be. That's a general
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be kind, the odds are you'll
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courageous, the odds are you'll be
courageous. If you just decide I will

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be courageous, that's it. There
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way to overcome fearing flying is to
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Boeing though. Just look, I
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live on airplanes. I don't care
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What's happened to What's happened to Boeing. I agree with you, but

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let's I deal with the issue.
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is I will fly. I do
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I will fly. I do want
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fly. So what you do is
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Sleeping pills, that's an example of
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thirty hours of flying gets your stuff. But another thing, bring up,

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bring two friends to do what it
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I FULLI got out. I don't
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In fact, I fall asleep.
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asleep before they take off. I'm
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an airplane is just a bust that
flies. So I'm lucky I don't I

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don't have that battle. But everybody
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you're really going to lose your income
if you speak out I can't say to

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you glibally, Okay, lose your
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lose their income. Most people will
lose some friends. But you want to

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lose those friends exactly. I don't
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are to keep your buddies exactly.
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advantages of speaking out is that when
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not only make enemies, you make
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you exist, and you will be
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I'm always astounded that parents are afraid
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on our side of the aisle,
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like, that's I think being a
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me even more courage than I had
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have things to fight for. I'm
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fight for your kids, especially when
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just bewildered that these people are always
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It's that I don't I that I
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with those who will lose a job. Yeah, I guess I do not

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have sympathy. First of First of
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you should only fear God. Right. Fear God is the great antidote,

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antidote to fearing people. I fear
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it's unbelievably liberating. I sleep like
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I am wildly loved, And as
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if you let the compliments go to
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go to your heart. So the
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insults don't go to my heart.
I have to answer to God and be

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admired hopefully by my kids and my
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Yeah, and so does everybody else. Everybody else has to answer to God.

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So you think that a lot of
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should concentrate on that instead of concentrating
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Yeah, do you have a lot
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does God think men give birth?
Exactly? Exactly? Do you have

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like a big circle of liberal friends? I'm curious now that because I was

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going to say, because is it
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circle of liberal relatives. I'm Jewish
after all, right, how do you

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explain that? Like, y,
what is this? Why is it such

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a monolithic group? Vote? Yeah? Well, well, for it's not

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monolithic. So this is important for
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overwhelmingly conservative. Overwhelmingly religious Jews are
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Of Orthodox Jews vote Republican. So
the Jews who believe the Toras from

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God are all conservative. The Jews
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that's the first five books of the
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Jews vote that way is I can't
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But please understand. This is what
I always explain is to Christians because

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much of my life is with Christians
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when a Christian leaves Christianity, he's
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Jew leaves Judaism he still called the
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There are as many people who came
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as Jews who came from Jewish roots
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Jews and the Christians are called leftists, right, So interesting, Yeah,

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that's very important. It's a very
important distinction for people to understand. You

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don't believe in God and the Bible, you're not a Christian. You don't

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believe in God and Bible. And
you're born a Jew, you're still a

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Jew. George Soros is Jewish as
this mouse. Okay, yes, but

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he's called a Jew. He doesn't
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God, he doesn't give a damn
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thing for Jews, but he's called
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it's more than just a belief system. That's right, and that's true.

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It is so, it is what
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you surprised, Well, I guess
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many And I don't know about the
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there's Jewish students who are participating.
Yeah, that's a perfect example, right,

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that just blows my mind. Yeah, well that's one of my future

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columns. It's called sick Jews.
There is no parallel to this group among

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any group in the world. It
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for slavery. Yes, yes,
Jews. Jews for Kamas is as sick

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as it gets, it would be
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is the only difference between Kamasa and
the Nazis is that Hamas publicizes what it

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did and the Nazis hid what they
did. Yes, yes, I don't

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know why this is so hard.
It is not hard. Now, it's

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not hard. It's that the mainstream
media are run by leftists and they don't

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tell you the truth. Yeah,
and so for themas and Israel are moral

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equivalent. Yes, It's amazing to
me to see all the outcries about you

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know, all these student protesters who
are the more violent ones are saying things

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like kill all the Zionists, and
I just am so amazed by that concept,

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being that they can just say that
so easily while they're complaining about a

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genocide that's not even taking place,
when they're calling for one, perfect,

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perfect insight, the only genocide is
the one that the Iranians and hamasen has

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Be want to inflict on the Jews. Yeah, that's correct. By the

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way, a half million people have
been slaughtered in Ethiopia in the last five

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years, half a million of thirty
thousand, and no one knows about it,

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and no one cares. And you
know why, because it's blacks killing

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blacks, and the Left doesn't care
about blacks who were killed. They only

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care about black who were killed by
non black. Yeah, and cops specifically

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if they're non black specifically, and
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by black Mm hmm exactly. You're
absolutely right. Well, Dennis, I

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know we want to be respectful of
your time, and we know that you

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are exhausted from your travels, so
we appreciate you very much being with us.

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Really great insight. Where can people
learn more about you? About Prager?

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You find your columns pregeryu dot com
Dennis Praguer dot com. Also I

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have They should read the five thousand
reviews, or even twenty of the five

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thousand of the work of my life, The Rational Bible. I explain the

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first five books of the Bible,
the basis of both the Old and New

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Testament in a way I know Biblical
Hebrew like English. This has been my

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life's teaching. They should get at
least one of the volumes, and I

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know it will change people's lives.
It's called the Rational Bible. Perfect,

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fantastic. Thank you so much for
your time, Dennis, thank you.

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You guys are a joy. We'll
do it again. Thank you. If

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you invite me back, we'd love
to. We'd love to when you're not

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like jet lag from a thirty hour
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on. Absolutely
