WEBVTT 1 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:28.199 Using free speech to free minds. If you are listening to The David Knight 2 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:43.479 Show, as a clock strikes thirteen, it's Monday, May twenty seventh, 3 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:48.000 year of Our Lord, twenty twenty four. Well, today we decided in 4 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:51.320 the last minute to take the holiday off of family and friends. So we're 5 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.119 going to do a best of interviews broadcast. You know, for Memorial Day. 6 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.759 It's a time that we remember those who died serving their country, but 7 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.799 does the government value those who serve We're going to begin today with our best 8 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:08.959 of interviews. We're going to begin with Davis Johnce, who defended military service 9 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:17.599 members from unconstitutional, unlawful orders to force vaccinate them and of course the fight 10 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:21.560 is still going on for over a quarter of a million military personnel. We're 11 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:26.120 going to talk about the film Seals Beat Biden that tells that story. Next, 12 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.439 we have Catherine Austin Fitz joining us to talk about the rising resistance to 13 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:34.799 digital slavery and the key to that fight financial transaction privacy. Arin Day will 14 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:40.840 be joining us to talk about the fight against CBDC and Jay Warner Wallace on 15 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:45.560 his new book The Truth and True Crime to day with us. We'll be 16 00:01:45.640 --> 00:02:12.960 right back, have a good holiday. I don't know that I've ever done 17 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:15.800 anything or been involved in a team effort, because that's what it was, 18 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.560 a team effort that I had more return on the investment than that one in 19 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:24.360 which we engage in the capital of Afghanistan belts the talibi. If you want 20 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:29.039 a better new normal anytime soon, Americans need to put on a mask. 21 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:37.000 He told me that there was no chance that my religious accommodation, or that 22 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:42.560 any religious accommodation would be granted, and sure enough, within hours, I 23 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:46.719 was terminated. I had no income, I had no healthcare benefits, I 24 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:55.240 had no job. They come in, handshaking, angry, telling us that 25 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:59.360 they don't want to hear about our rattal snake religion, saying that we never 26 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:07.840 wanted to be seen and that we're not courageous enough to fight war. Anything 27 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:14.159 below capacity and a rate is considered critical. My rating the rescue swimmers, 28 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.560 we were at eighty nine percent, and the commandant is ready to cover these 29 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:28.759 guys loose over a vaccine hand aid for an untested shot. The oath is 30 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:30.560 not for the easy times. The oath is for the hard times, and 31 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:35.439 it's whatever you have to make that choice between doing what the constitution says or 32 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:38.400 doing what if someone else is telling me to be be a patriot, protect 33 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:44.240 your fellow citizens. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of 34 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.759 the United States, so every military member does that. So if the military 35 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.879 members rights are not protected, they're not protected for the rest of society. 36 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:54.840 These are the individuals that are actually willing to risk their lives to fight for 37 00:03:54.879 --> 00:04:04.560 the constitution. Are you willing? Would you be willing to throw your stars 38 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:12.159 on the table over a principle? Would you be willing? And then I 39 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:17.480 will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about 40 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:38.959 to enter. So help me God, and I meant it. So Seals 41 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:43.079 Beatbiden dot Com. And that is a very powerful documentary. And you saw 42 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.319 our guest in that documentary, David Johns, because he was involved in that 43 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.600 fight. And we're going to talk about that. And that's what we were 44 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:54.360 showing at the beginning the trailer for the new documentary that's coming out, talking 45 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.879 about this struggle that you've been involved in very heavily from the very beginning. 46 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:02.040 You're in the trailer there see Duels Beat Biden that documentary. Tell us a 47 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.519 little bit about that documentary, and then we'll talk a little bit about what 48 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.720 the current status is of these things. So tell us a little bit about 49 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:13.680 the documentary. Davis, Yeah, absolutely, So. Seals Beat Biden was 50 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:17.000 a concept that was developed. It's a relatively new news media outlet called The 51 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:23.959 Republic Sentinel, and they came to me, They came to former Navy seals 52 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:27.120 and others and said, hey, we want to tell this story. We 53 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.519 want to tell the story of what happened. We want to do it well, 54 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.000 we want to honor these people, but we also want to do it 55 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:36.959 in a way that we can prevent things like this from happening and also shine 56 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:42.480 a light on the implications of everything that happened with the COVID mandate on the 57 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.439 rights of all American citizens. So that was sort of what was behind the 58 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:51.560 project. So The Republic Sentinel was fantastic. What's out now currently is part 59 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:56.560 one. It's a three part series. I'm not exactly sure when the second 60 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.839 part is going to be released. It should be released very soon, and 61 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.759 then there'll be a final third part that's released as well, so you can 62 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.800 follow what's going on at Sealsbeatbiden dot Com. It's free. You just have 63 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:10.160 to give them your email address in order to log in there, but you 64 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.879 can set up an account and watch it free. It's it's very, very 65 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.639 well done, and I think some of the most powerful aspects of it are 66 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.560 just telling the stories of individuals like Ason Miller, one of the Navy seals 67 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:24.920 I represented in this. Talks about what it was like for those guys to 68 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.879 go through this, talks about people being put in isolation, being essentially in 69 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.839 solitary confinement, what it was like for him. And you know, Ace 70 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.680 is in a great position to tell that story because he was one of the 71 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.879 Navy seals. From the very very beginning, they said, I don't believe 72 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.040 this is right. I don't believe this is constitutional. We need to take 73 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.680 a stand, not just for ourselves, but for everyone in the military that's 74 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.600 afraid to speak up because they're not a Navy seal, and for the American 75 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.560 public. And he was willing to be court martialed. He he and I 76 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.720 sat in a room together and I said, if you don't follow this order, 77 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.600 you understand what could happen. And he was ready and willing to be 78 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.279 court Marshal if that's what it takes, So I'm so glad that he's able 79 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:06.279 to be in it and tell part of his story. Then there's other people 80 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:13.480 that were critically involved in sort of rallying people to this cause and creating not 81 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:15.560 just a rally point, but a way for people to get this information out 82 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.879 there and have the courage to take a stand within the military. So it 83 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:25.480 went from you know, isolated individual military members working on this on their own 84 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.399 to at one point, I think we've talked about this number before, but 85 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.800 even the DoD admitted that there were two over two hundred and sixty thousand military 86 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:39.199 members that were not compliant when the mandate came out. Wow, right, 87 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:44.959 over two hundred and sixty thousand. That's over thirteen percent of the total military 88 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:47.439 force that we're not compliant by the time the mandy came down. And that's 89 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:51.079 the DoD's numbers. So you know, how far we trust that. I'm 90 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:56.399 not sure how we go on that, but Steals b Biden is an effort 91 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.439 to sort of tell the story of what happened, and then as you get 92 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:03.279 into episode three, I'm told the goal of that episode is really to talk 93 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:09.079 about the future and how we take stands against things like this in the future 94 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.480 and learn from what happened. That's excellent. And it all begins with the 95 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.279 individuals. And you know, I've seen some articles. There was one I 96 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.600 saw the other day somebody said, you know, there are more people involved 97 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.600 in all of this than you think. You know, just as they want 98 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.120 to make everybody think, well, you're the only one who had a family 99 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.759 member die from this shot, or you're the only one who got paralyzed from 100 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.919 this shot. I know it was happening to everybody. They did such a 101 00:08:31.919 --> 00:08:37.080 great job of trying to isolate and adomize and you know, cover this up 102 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.399 with everybody. You point out thirteen percent, two hundred and sixty thousand people, 103 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:45.080 even according to their numbers. And of course you look at the things 104 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.919 that they're doing with the Bureau of Labor Statistics. How they rig those numbers 105 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:52.240 last week, it's just amazing. But they always rig the numbers. They 106 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.200 rig the COVID numbers, they rig the protest numbers and all the rest of 107 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:01.799 this. But it really did come down to this strong to the individual. 108 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:03.519 You know, when you make this stand, each and every one of us 109 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.080 is going to have to make that stand as an individual and make that individual 110 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:11.679 decision. And I like the way the documentary trailer started with that Vice admiral. 111 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.720 I think it was who said, most important fight he's been in, 112 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:18.600 and it is true, because this is a fight for our country, or 113 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:24.000 fight for our constitution and for everyone's individual rights. And I like the way 114 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.200 they came back to him and he said, you've got to be willing to 115 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.200 throw those stars on the table over the principle. And the sad thing about 116 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.919 it that bothers me, Davis is the fact that they have pushed so many 117 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.399 good people like that out of the military. I think that's a big part 118 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.840 of the agenda. What do you think? Yeah, you know, And 119 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.480 I didn't want to believe that right and very early on in this people started 120 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.039 talking about a pergure otherwise. But I was you know, I was a 121 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.720 jag, I was a lawyer in the military. It was a lieutenant colonel. 122 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:58.200 I submitted my religious accommodation request. I trusted the process and then it 123 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.519 was denied, and it was denied properly, it was denied for the wrong 124 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.879 reasons, and so I had great pause. But I'm like, Okay, 125 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:05.840 I'm going to appeal my own, you know, religious commodation. I'm going 126 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:09.759 to help everyone else do it. And I quickly realized from the beginning they 127 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:15.279 weren't going to be granting these religious accommodation requests. The goal was one hundred 128 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:20.039 percent compliance, no matter what. And then it doesn't take very much imagination 129 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.879 to start thinking about, Okay, if you have a significant portion, you 130 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.320 know, ten, thirteen, fifteen, whatever. The real number was percent 131 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:33.240 of the force that is objecting to not just to being vaccinated, but being 132 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.240 but objecting to the way this is being done and the way it's being forced 133 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:41.399 on the American public and on the military for their their moral, ethical, 134 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.639 and religious reasons. Then you have to realize, wow, who's leaving the 135 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.759 military. Then it's people that are willing to question orders. It's people that 136 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.159 are willing to say no. I took an oath to support and defend the 137 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.440 Constitution in the United States. I'm not going to turn my back on that. 138 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:01.279 And people don't fully understand the documentary he helped tell this story. But 139 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.639 I can just rattle off examples of how this policy was in direct violation of 140 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:11.879 constitutional rights and indirect violation of federal law. And they knew that, and 141 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.279 they refused to stop. I mean, the best example, and it's almost 142 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.919 humorous if it wasn't so serious for so many people. But the Department of 143 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:24.399 Defense Inspector General, the Inspector General's office supposed to be the watchdog for the 144 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.360 Department of Defense, and they work for the man, so you have to 145 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:33.159 wonder how independent they really are. But even they did a cursory review of 146 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.639 the religious accommodation process and they said, Department of Defense, you are not 147 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:43.360 doing this correctly. It is impossible for you to be doing the individualized review 148 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.720 that's required by law. There are not enough hours in the day, days 149 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.159 in the week, you know, weeks in a month in order to do 150 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.399 this, because you're spending you know, they did a calculation. It's like, 151 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.399 even if you were working ten hour days with no breaks, you're spending 152 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.279 minutes at most on each one of these individual acommodation requests. That's not what 153 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.320 the law requires. The DODIG wrote a memo, sent it to Secretary of 154 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:11.480 Austin the Secretary of Defense and said, you need to see this because our 155 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:16.720 initial analysis is you're violating the constitutional rights and you may be violating federal law 156 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.039 by the way you're doing this, and it was ignored. It was ignored 157 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.480 by the Secretary of Defense, and no one even knew that that memo existed 158 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.000 until it came out through a foil request almost two months later. In other 159 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.960 words, they were kicking people out any people's careers, continuing to do this 160 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.519 without even like a strategic pause to say, Okay, hey, we need 161 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.919 to look into this. They simply didn't care. And so that you know, 162 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.519 if there's no other lesson that we can learn from the documentary from what 163 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.600 happened with the COVID mandate in the military, is that we had an executive 164 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:54.480 branch and military leadership that were willing to ignore federal law and the constitutional rights 165 00:12:54.519 --> 00:13:00.960 military members to accomplish a goal which was one hundred percent compliance with an experimental 166 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.879 vaccine. Yeah. Yeah, And we had a lot of people who were 167 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:09.519 scientists or people in the medical community and they didn't wake up until they're working 168 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:11.480 on it and said, Yea, we got this other thing over here, 169 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:15.080 maybe this works, and maybe that works. And that happened in many different 170 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:16.759 ways, many different places, and they were immediately shut down. We have 171 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.600 one solution, and you're going to do this and it's like, wait a 172 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.080 minute, there's something wrong here, right, And so you're seeing that everywhere, 173 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.879 but fundamentally, what happened to people in the military, it's essentially the 174 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:31.480 same thing that we see in private companies or we see in the hospitals, 175 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.519 for example. The government bribes people with money and then it says, and 176 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.519 then you're going to do this or we're going to take that money away. 177 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.919 And so it ultimately comes back to what that Vice admiral said, You got 178 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.039 to be willing to throw those stars on the table over your principle. And 179 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.120 that was the same thing that happened to nurses and hospitals. You know, 180 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:56.399 they hold your career, they hold your livelihood and your lifeline up to you, 181 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:01.519 and you have to make that decision. Am I going to stand by 182 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:03.600 the money and the career or am I going to stand by my principle. 183 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:07.360 And that's why this is a story for everybody inside the military or outside the 184 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.679 military. And a lot of people have gone through this fire, and the 185 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.440 good thing about this is they've come out on the other side. And I've 186 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.159 talked to so many people who have absolutely no regrets about whether they lost their 187 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.559 job. Many of them found something else to do. They're happier about that. 188 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:24.679 The people have regrets are the ones who had their arm twisted and went 189 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.559 along with a coercion. Those are the people I see over and over again 190 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:35.000 who have regrets. Yeah. Absolutely, And there's just been tremendous community built 191 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.360 out of what happened. And you know this idea you were talking about earlier 192 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:41.919 of isolation. You know, during this whole military fight, there were so 193 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:45.200 many times when someone would call me and they'd be like, I'm the only 194 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.559 person on my entire installation. My chain of command is telling me I'm the 195 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:50.320 only one. I'm the last hold out. What do I do? I'm 196 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.720 all alone here? And I'm like, no, you're not alone. I 197 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.080 have talked to five other people that are your same installation that are being told 198 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:00.440 the same thing by their command. They're being lied to a about that. 199 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.600 But just even the idea, and that was part of the whole idea of 200 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.919 what the Navy seals like Asimilla did and were willing to do, is they 201 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.960 were willing to risk their careers in order to get the word out there. 202 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.360 Hey, you're not alone, You're not alone, You're not isolated. There 203 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:16.320 is a whole community of people that are taking a stand, and the idea 204 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:22.080 is courage is contagious. And one of the things I think is a difference, 205 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.799 and maybe this is hyperbole, maybe it's not, but people like as 206 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.000 Miller being willing to take a stand and saying oh and not comply is a 207 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:33.639 difference. Other people throughout society that took a stand. Restaurant owners, gym 208 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.000 owners, doctors, nurses, small businesses, they took these stands, and 209 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.240 the fact that they were unwilling to comply. Churches as well is why we 210 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:46.879 didn't have concentration camps like they had in Australia in the United States right because 211 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.360 there was not the political will to do that, because there was enough people, 212 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.759 even though as a small percentage, saying no and not complying with this 213 00:15:54.879 --> 00:16:00.639 government overreach, and so the government didn't have the political ability to carry out 214 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.519 as much as they could or would have without that. That's what we need 215 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.120 to learn from this. We need to have communities of people willing to come 216 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.120 together, willing to rally at the local level, using the doctrine the lesser 217 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.519 magistrates to take these stands, and if nothing else, I think that's a 218 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.519 lot of what is hope to be, you know, taught and talked about 219 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:25.080 through the documentary. Yes, they're so focused on speech and controlling our communications 220 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.600 with each other because they want to do that isolation thing. And you know, 221 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.639 when you look at the military, I think about it, how much 222 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.000 they they've got to be. It's got to be an especially difficult thing for 223 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:38.240 people in the military because they spend so much time trying to create this cohesiveness. 224 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:41.320 You're part of a unit, you know, you're not just an individual 225 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.240 out here. And that was part of what you and others were saying about 226 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.960 this. You know, by isolating these people and making them the other, 227 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:53.039 you're really harming that kind of cohesiveness. But I imagine the people who are 228 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:59.639 being ostracized and isolated over all this stuff, they really feel that to a 229 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.679 great degree than somebody who is just working in a civilian job, because in 230 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.200 a civilian job, you're not trained to have that kind of a team unit 231 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.799 idea. And now you are kind of leaving the team and betraying the team. 232 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.359 Is the way they're betraying it to people, wasn't it. Yeah? 233 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.119 Absolutely, I mean that was part of the pressure that was put on myself 234 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.000 and so many military members, and when you get down to people like maybe 235 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:26.359 seals, the team, the cohesiveness of that team, that small unit tactics, 236 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.519 all of that comes together, and it absolutely was. There was a 237 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.359 lot of pressure put on individuals say well, everybody else is doing it, 238 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:34.839 just go along, go along, go along, and not everyone else was 239 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.640 doing it, which was part of this. But the other thing is, 240 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:45.200 you know, again you have to understand these individuals. So many were motivated 241 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.079 by the fact that they believed this was wrong, and all they did was 242 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:49.839 start asking questions, right, That's all a lot of us did is just 243 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:55.200 ask some questions. And you weren't even allowed to ask questions. As soon 244 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.680 as you started to ask questions, then you were you know, you were 245 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:03.680 faced with tremendous pressure. And you know, I've seen it over and over 246 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.960 and over again. We're all just the mere fact that you're asking questions has 247 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:11.759 been met with challenges from the military, isolation from the military, and it 248 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.599 went past COVID. I'm still trying to fix people who lost their security clearance, 249 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.359 not because you know, the mandate was repealed so they were in good 250 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:23.880 standing with the military again, but because they had written a detailed memo to 251 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:30.960 their commander explaining why they felt it was unlawful to order military members to receive 252 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:34.960 an experimental you know, medical procedure, a medical product under federal law. 253 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:40.000 Why they believe that. Then they were being challenged as being disloyal or exercising 254 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:42.279 poor judgment, and they're trying to revoke their security clearances. So most of 255 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.680 those cases so far we've won and we've gotten the security clearance back. But 256 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:49.359 that was sort of like the next level. And again, when you see 257 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.279 things like that, you start to say, that really does feel like a 258 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:56.119 purge. Then if you're not, just if you're not just saying, oh, 259 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.000 you survived the COVID mandate, but now we're coming after your security clearance 260 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:04.119 because you dared say that you think this order might be unlawful. You know 261 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.039 you're not allowed to do that. That's the exact opposite of the way our 262 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:12.319 military was built and designed and just the DNA of our military. We used 263 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:17.680 to have a military that really focused on the small unit, the platoon, 264 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:22.359 the platoon chargeant, and individual freedom of action within your area of authority. 265 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:27.839 Even on the battlefield. We've won battles historically as a nation because it didn't 266 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.559 matter if a small unit was cut off from the chain of command or communication, 267 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.279 they had the freedom and they were expected to exercise good judgment and carry 268 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:41.599 on the mission even without you know, a general officer telling them what to 269 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:44.599 do, right, And that was the difference between you know, the Allied 270 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.319 military on D Day. In the German military, no one would wake up 271 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.119 Hitler to release the tanks. On D Day. The Germans may have pushed 272 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.960 us off the beaches, but again there was this command structure where they had 273 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.759 no freedom of action. That's what we've moved to in our military. So 274 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:07.319 on a very practical level, COVID exposed that punishing commanders and anyone who ask 275 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.079 hard questions, that's a dangerous thing. That's something we need to be working 276 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:12.720 hard on in our military as well. We need to go back to a 277 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:18.079 concept that we want free thinkers who within the structure of the law and the 278 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.279 constitution, feel comfortable doing their job and doing it well. That's what's made 279 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.960 us have the best and most powerful military when we've been successful. Oh yeah, 280 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.720 and that's what makes our economy work, not having central planning, not 281 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:33.400 having total centralized control. And yet that is the essence of what they want 282 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.960 to do well. You've got a lot of different things that you do there 283 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:42.240 at your website is Yance Law. That's why owe you NTS Law. You've 284 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:47.200 gotten a lot of military experience. You help people who are Christians who are 285 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:52.640 being persecuted. People can also follow you on x at Davis Yance Yo you 286 00:20:52.880 --> 00:21:00.079 NTS again and tell us a little bit about we've only got about a minute 287 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.160 half give us a little bit of a commercial for what you do at Yon's 288 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:08.519 Law. Yeah. So we are focused primarily on representing military members, So 289 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.920 we help military members with all kinds of things, rising from the level of 290 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:18.920 administrative actions to court martial cases. We have pushed into since COVID a lot 291 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.400 more religious freedom issues, so we're able to do that and we use our 292 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.039 experience. I've added another attorney to the firm, Caleb Bird, who is 293 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:32.480 a former senior Army prosecutor who's outstanding on these issues as well. So that's 294 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.240 our goal really to support military members. We want to be in a position 295 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.880 to encourage military members to do the right thing and to help them navigate the 296 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:45.720 process. So that takes us all over the world, and we hope to 297 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:47.880 be able to continue to do that. As long as God allows it. 298 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:49.359 And as you pointed out, I mean, there's just no end to this. 299 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:53.559 They're so tenacious. Yesterday I was talking about how Alvin Bragg Manhattan, 300 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.640 DA, he's coming after people over COVID stuff still, and so the military 301 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.000 is especially you know, as you point out, taking security clearances of other 302 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.519 people. They are out to get their revenge against anybody that pushed back against 303 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:12.000 their narrative for centralized control. And it just keeps going. So thank you 304 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:17.079 so much for what you do, David Shantz Yance law dot com and you 305 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:19.680 can also find him on Twitter or x at Davis Yance. Thank you so 306 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.599 much for what you do, sir, appreciate it. Thank you, God 307 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:30.839 bless you. Thank you. Have a good day. All right. Joining 308 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.480 us now is Katherine Austin Fitz. Always great to talk to Katherine, and 309 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.240 especially wanted to talk to her as we go into a new year. And 310 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:44.200 she's also got she's working very hard to try to help people get financial transaction 311 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:45.559 freedom. We're and talk about what that is. She's got a tour that's 312 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.759 coming around Tennessee that's going to be happening there. Catherine, in case you 313 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:55.759 don't know her, she's president of Solari Incorporated, and that's at Salari dot 314 00:22:55.759 --> 00:23:00.359 COM's s O l A r I dot Com. She is a former Assistant 315 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:04.079 Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing Commissioner at the US Department of Housing in Urban 316 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:11.160 Development and the first Bush administration was the president of Hamilton Securities Group and she 317 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.440 has designed and closed over twenty five billion dollars worth of transactions and investments to 318 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:21.039 date and has led portfolio investment strategy for three hundred billion dollars of financial assets 319 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:26.680 and liabilities. She understands the financial landscape and she is committed to liberty. 320 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.119 So joining us now is Katherine Austin Fitz. Thank you for joining us. 321 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.119 Thank you, David. I'm excited because I'm coming. I'm headed to Tennessee 322 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.599 this month and I'm hoping what I come through. I'm spending more time on 323 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:40.119 the eastern side of the state these days. I'm going to come through and 324 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.839 meet you on I'd love to do that team, I'd love to do that. 325 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.720 Yeah, I love to do that. And you got the tour that's 326 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.279 coming up, and let's talk about that. But first let's well lay out 327 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:53.920 what financial transaction freedom is. But let's talk about twenty twenty four, and 328 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:59.720 also looking back at twenty twenty three, how do you see the top story? 329 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.200 As a were talking off areas, you have your top stories for the 330 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.480 year that you typically cover. What did you see as the top stories for 331 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:10.880 twenty twenty three. So we are great believers in open source intelligence. It's 332 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.920 Leary, and every week we pour into our databases the top headline. So 333 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.279 we're constantly pouring. You know, if you do a search for the David 334 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.920 Knight Show, you'll find a bunch of stuff. And you know, so 335 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.799 we have a new media list and we're pouring in headlines from you know, 336 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.640 all different sources. We get people sending us links all on in the world. 337 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.000 And then weekly I do a show called Money and Markets with Titus and 338 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.799 we pick out the top twenty stories and talk about those for that week. 339 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.920 And then when we get to the quarter and the year, So every quarter 340 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.400 but the last one is the annual wrap up. We have a team of 341 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.799 four people who synthesize all the stories and sit down and say, Okay, 342 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:52.279 what are the most what are the most important stories that people, you know, 343 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.279 individuals or families need to know to navigate this environment. What's important, 344 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:03.079 and every time I can, I'm into one of those efforts, and it 345 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:06.160 takes us about a month to build out to the top twenty stories for the 346 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.039 quarter of the year. I think, well, I know what's going on, 347 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.359 you know, I'm on top of it. I'm watching the news. 348 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.480 And yet we go through the process and we realize, after we've collected everything 349 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:19.119 different, you know, together, it's like, oh, you know, 350 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:23.440 I didn't realize how big that was or how important. Anyway, this time 351 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:29.599 we normally our top story is on the financial cupdeta are the going direct reset. 352 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.359 This time our top story was not only very different, but typically we 353 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:37.920 put all the top twenty stories on one page. This story was so big 354 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.559 and so long it had to have its own page, and the other nineteen 355 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:47.640 stories second page. And the title is twenty twenty three the Year of Pushback. 356 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.000 Wow. And what I didn't realize, David, until I pulled it 357 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:56.039 all together, in all the different categories, the extent of the pushback. 358 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.559 You know, it's almost like twenty twenty, we get whack, twenty twenty 359 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:03.000 one, realize something's fishy. Twenty twenty two, we decide to take action, 360 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.640 and we start twenty twenty three you see the lawsuits filed, you see 361 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:15.319 the you know, the the the different you know, business has started or 362 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:19.319 initiatives started, and you know, there are many different categories. But what 363 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:25.319 happened is the pushback blossomed. And then if you look at how it's blossoming 364 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:30.759 and who's doing what, what you realize is twenty twenty four is going to 365 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.559 be explosive. It's beautiful it that's going to be the case. The question 366 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:41.079 is going to be putting the plunger down, honey, I said, you 367 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.119 know, I said when I was talking about it, because we do, 368 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.200 you know, we do a recording and it's a mega recording with doctor Ferrell 369 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.599 that will publish next week with the analysis of all the twenty stories. But 370 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.240 I said, this is like a big game of Texas Chicken where the establishment 371 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.519 is trying to centralize and the pushback is not only pushing back but saying, 372 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.519 you know something, We're going to do our own reset. I call it 373 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.880 the building wealth reset. You're doing the going direct reset. We're going to 374 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.599 do the building wealth reset. We're going to build wealth, bottom up, 375 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.920 family wealth, community wealth. You know, we've had it with you guys 376 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.200 destroying and stealing everything so you've got these two cars going together at sixty miles 377 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.839 an hour, and you know, the pushback team is looking much stronger than 378 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:27.079 I ever realized until we did this. So I came out of the process 379 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.559 so enthusiastic. I think it's going to be a great year. Our quote 380 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:36.720 for the commentary for this year is from a preacher down in Texas. He 381 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:45.440 says, he said, our situation is defined by extraordinary opportunities brilliantly disguised as 382 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:51.680 impossible situations. That's like the guy who the American general who is surrounded and 383 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:52.960 he goes, that's good news. Were going to attack them in any direction, 384 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:57.319 right, I guess that's where we are right now. You know they've 385 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.680 done their best justess around us. Well, you know that's the thing. 386 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.559 I look at it and I get frustrated because it seems like there's so many 387 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.119 people who don't know. There's a lot more people who don't care. H 388 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.599 and then even amongst the people who know and care, a lot of them 389 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.079 don't really know what to do. And that's what I like about what you 390 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:18.680 do, because you've got some action items to take, and especially focusing on 391 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.079 the money part, because that is such an important aspect. That's a fly 392 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.160 you know, it is central to the country. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 393 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.240 So we just have subscribers. You know, we had these hats called 394 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.880 you know that they're orange hats and say make cash great again. And people 395 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.440 are sending us pictures from all over the world. Here's you know, you 396 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.680 know, cash, make cash grade again on top of Mount Kilimajarro. You 397 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.079 know. But they're sending us pictures, including of their kids because they're having 398 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.799 you know, they're giving them the kids. But we get stories from all 399 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.519 over the world out people are using cash and seat of dialing back the systems. 400 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.400 And it's so inspiring to hear all these stories because not only are they 401 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.599 using cash, but they're beginning to engage with local businesses to talk about, 402 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:02.319 Okay, what are we going to do? How are we going to do? 403 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.279 You know, they're talking to their banks, they're talking to their credit 404 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.240 unions, they're talking to the local businesses, and it's almost like they're coming 405 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.920 out of the trance and getting ready to transact our way back to freedom. 406 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:18.480 Good and it's good. We did a great I did a great interview in 407 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.480 twenty twenty two called Where to Stash Your Cash in twenty twenty two, and 408 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.640 we're going to redo it this month where to stash your cash in twenty twenty 409 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.079 four. But it's sort of helping you build resiliency in your day to day 410 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.559 life. And we also have a program called Building Wealth because you know, 411 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.799 as I said, we do need a reset, but we need a reset 412 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.680 that rebuilds and builds family wealth. And family wealth is the basis of community 413 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.240 wealth. Sure, and you know the problem with what's going on is we 414 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:52.240 basically have an organized crime operation that's stealing and taking our wealth. So that's 415 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.759 got to be reversed. So you've got to you know, push back against 416 00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:00.640 them getting financial transaction controlled, which and then they get that, they will 417 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.960 take everything everything, They will take everything, so you know, it's slavery 418 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:08.640 or freedom. But we also when we say no, we reject your complete 419 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:14.640 control. We have to take responsibility bottom up to build the kind of culture 420 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.880 and economy that you know, we want our kids and grandkids growing up. 421 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.160 And that's absolutely true. I've said many times I forget to have said it. 422 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:22.359 I said, you can't win a culture. Whar if you don't have 423 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:27.599 a culture. We don't have a culture we have. We just set back 424 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.839 and let them feed us a culture, and we just kind of you can't 425 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:36.640 wait. You can't run a financial system just with law enforcement, right, 426 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.920 you know, the enforcement, the only productive enforcement comes from a moral culture 427 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.920 and institutions that will allow their people and encourage their people to be moral. 428 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.240 You know, it's funny. I just did an interview today with a gold 429 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:55.000 company here and I'm in the Netherlands right now, and they're a wonderful company. 430 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.519 I've only done it. I've only done maybe four or five transactions with 431 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:03.240 them, but each time totally clean, totally professional, high speed, no 432 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:06.880 monkey business, no dirty tricks, everything clean. It's a whistle everybody. 433 00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.000 Now to the drivers are great. It's like boom boom, boom, boom 434 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.880 boom, and and you think, you know this is how it should work. 435 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.640 Yes, but they have. If you look at who owns them and 436 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.000 how they operate, they're highly model. And you know it's culture that's going 437 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.559 to drive that. I don't know if you saw it, but we did 438 00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:32.880 this wonderful panel with CHD. Tennessee in Rogersville was Senator Nicely and Representative Halsey, 439 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.200 and oh it was who can I tell you? It was so great? 440 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.319 First I did a speech, then we did the panel. If you 441 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.559 watch it, just cut to the panel because Halsey and Nicely are great. 442 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:52.440 But Halsey gives this whole description of how the Constitution came out of, you 443 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:57.079 know, a culture and a morality. And unless we you know, unless 444 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:02.319 we protect and nurture and force that culture, nothing good can come from anything. 445 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.119 And it's a it's very eloquent. I agree, And it is very 446 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.960 important to have people that you trust and everything. That's why, you know, 447 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.880 we work with Tony Ardban at Wisewolf gold and he's even set up a 448 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.759 website David Night not Golden. And we were just talking about yesterday how Costco 449 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.680 they sold what was that one hundred million or three hundred million, I don't 450 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:23.200 know what it was, an amazing amount of gold, you know, but 451 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.599 Walmart is getting in it now. But it's like, you want to deal 452 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.000 with people that you know and people I don't know Walmart knowing what I own 453 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:36.000 exactly exactly. Now you get down to Walmart and you good bye with JP 454 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.720 Morgan card, you know, in the of America card, And that's the 455 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.279 that kind of defeats a lot of the purpose of that. You say, 456 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:47.039 and forward to your financial transaction freedom. You have a quote from William Faulkner. 457 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.759 It says we must be free not because we claim freedom, but because 458 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.720 we practice it. I thought that was really profound. You know, we 459 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.759 always talk about, well, you know, we got the constitution, we 460 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:00.880 got this and that. You know, well, yeah, they had the 461 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.519 declaration of independence, but they still had to fight the war, you know, 462 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.359 to get independence. You can't just enquire your independence. You got right, 463 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.200 it could happen. And that's really what this document is about. The 464 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.200 financial transaction freedom. Tell us a little bit about that. Tell us, 465 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.960 first of all, give us your definition of that. So there are two 466 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:22.359 big documents in this in this wrap up, and the first one, interestingly 467 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.920 enough, came from Tennessee. I was meeting with a group of state legislators 468 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:29.640 and some of the government officials. And there's a wonderful guy who runs the 469 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:34.440 revenue departments and uh, a really smart guy, and he said, would 470 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:38.880 you write a memo for me on financial transaction freedom? Freedom? What is 471 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:45.319 it, what threatens it, and what can we do to protect it? 472 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.759 And you know that's that was a harder job. I got my general counsel 473 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.000 and I and we wrote it, And so let's start with what is financial 474 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:59.519 transaction freedom. Financial transaction freedom is the ability to trade, you know, 475 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:06.200 to trade money for goods or to barter's swap, and to do it in 476 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:10.760 a way where one it's private, two you have multiple options. Cree, 477 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:16.519 it's liquid, and nobody's stopping or controlling you by controlling your financial transactions. 478 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:22.079 So we all know the story of what happened to the Canadian truckers. That 479 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:27.760 is financial transaction control. Now what I believe. If you go to Solary 480 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:32.079 and you down on the right, there's a panel that says videos on financial 481 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:40.039 transaction freedoms and CBDCs, and it's a list of eighty eighty short videos that 482 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:45.559 show you what the central bankage are planning on doing, including a certain total 483 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:52.239 control of your money. Oh yeah, so that one they can make rules 484 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:58.719 centrally and enforce them centrally with AI and software on all digital systems that control 485 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.559 your money. So if they just they want to raise taxes, they just 486 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.800 take it out of your account. If they decide it'll help with inflation, 487 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.320 they just freeze your account, you know, and they describe the deposits in 488 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:13.360 your account as an expression of central bank liability. It's not your money, 489 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:17.000 it's their money. That's number one. Number two, they want a program 490 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.199 money. So if they don't want your money working more than five miles from 491 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.360 your house, or they don't want you buying pizza because they think, you 492 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:27.559 know, it's not good for you, then your money won't buy pizza. 493 00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.119 Your money, you know, your digital your digital cards and digital transactions and 494 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.719 bank transactions won't work, you know, if you're more than five miles from 495 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.639 your home. So it's called programability anyway. So if you look at the 496 00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:45.199 first couple videos, there's also one of the great videos. There is a 497 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:51.440 video from one of the presidents of the one of the twelve Fed banks saying, 498 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.599 I understand why China wants CBBC's, but why would Americans ever let this 499 00:35:55.719 --> 00:36:00.719 happen? You know, I mean, because you're talking about a slave system. 500 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:05.639 If they get financial transaction control and control of the food supply, which 501 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.679 is part of what they're up to, And if you look at some of 502 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.480 our wrap ups, we've written a lot about that recently as well, because 503 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.239 it's you know, it's part of the same play. If they get financial 504 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.480 transaction controlled, David, and they can control your bank account, you know, 505 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.559 and and institute taxation without representation. Then they can dictate anything. They 506 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:28.320 can dictate what drugs you're going to take. They can dictate whether or not 507 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.920 you've got to take injections. They can dictate where your kids go to school. 508 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.239 They can dictate that your kids can't live with you anymore, they've got 509 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:39.079 to come to you know, X y Z government boarding school whatever. You're 510 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:44.920 talking about a slavery system. And one of the fourth video in the stack 511 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.719 is Richard Warner, the top central bank expert in the world in my opinion, 512 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:54.159 academic expert, explaining that one of the top central banks heads in Europe 513 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.960 told him that it's a chip. They're planning and putting it in our hands. 514 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.599 So and we've seen discuss the World Economic Form with the head of no 515 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.800 Key and others talking about how we're going to all be chipped. Yeah, 516 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.159 yeah, for convenience, you know, for convenience, and it really is 517 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.719 for their convenience. Yeah, yeah, you want to have. I played 518 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.320 the video over and over again from that was produced in Ukraine and they said, 519 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.480 well, you know, after we get past this war and we're victorious, 520 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.239 twenty thirty is just going to be great. You know, when you 521 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.320 any interaction that you have with other people, but especially all the different things 522 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.280 that you're required to do with government. We'll just make that so convenient because 523 00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.320 we'll have a CBDC and we'll have your everything that you have will be on 524 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:36.440 your phone and so forth. And it's like, wow, this is totally 525 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.559 comprehensive it. As you pointed out, they're going to be able with the 526 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:44.639 programmability make your money invalid if you're not in the correct area. It's all 527 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:49.119 about enslaving and imprisoning this, you know. And yeah, right, so 528 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.079 when the World Economic Forum says it's twenty thirty and you have no assets, 529 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.280 the question is how do they strip you of all your assets? How do 530 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.320 they strip you of your property rights? How do they strip you of your 531 00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.440 assets? You do it is if you can get total financial transaction control, 532 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.239 then you can strip people of all their assets. You just turn off their 533 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.960 money. That's right. Yeah, we already saw a little bit of this, 534 00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.320 you know, you mentioned the Freedom Convoy. That was a big wake 535 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.639 up for everybody because now it's no longer a conspiracy theory is a conspiracy reality. 536 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.559 They've already done it, and then we saw, you know, a 537 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.239 January the sixth, We saw Bank of America, you know, creating a 538 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:29.760 stazi list of here's all the people that had financial transactions within this area on 539 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:31.960 January the sixth. And oh no, by the way, here's our records 540 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.239 of all the people who use our credit card to buy guns. You want 541 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.079 to put those together, FBI, so we know how they're going to use 542 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.800 this. It's very sinister. And when you look at it, it's almost 543 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.599 as if you know, the Bank of America who was asking them, would 544 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.440 you like us to confiscate their money and lock up their accounts? Right? 545 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.239 Exactly? Yeah, It truly is amazing. So you know, when we 546 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:53.880 look at it, there's some other things on it as well. I'm looking 547 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:59.960 at the memo and there's a downloadable PDF that you have at sari dot com. 548 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.760 But so if you come into Solaria, it's just it's Financial Transaction Freedom 549 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.400 Memo, and we have it in PDF and you can download. We sell 550 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.320 hard copies for free, or we put it in the wrap up. You 551 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.360 can buy that. But if you're a subscriber, but just download it for 552 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.440 free, printed out, make as many copies as you want, spread it 553 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:22.079 everywhere and so you define what you just to find what financial freedom is, 554 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.480 you've got to have multiple different ways outside of their system, a lot of 555 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.960 different options and things like that, privacy and no surveillance and that type of 556 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.920 thing. But then you also have action items, because I've had they I 557 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.199 talk about CBD So go ahead, tell us about the action items. The 558 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.280 next step, well, to understand action items, you have to understand what 559 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.360 threatens financial transaction freedom because it's not just central bank controls and CBDCs and digital 560 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:52.000 IDs. It's also power outages, okay, it's cybersecurity attacks. There are 561 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:53.719 all sorts of other things. You know, when the cyclones hit in New 562 00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:58.800 Zealand, the governor of the central bank there gave a press concerts afterwards and 563 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.880 he said, thank God for cat. If we hadn't had cash, we 564 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.679 would have been and I, you know, I never I'll turned to John 565 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.119 Titus that week and I said, I guess he didn't get the memo. 566 00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:14.199 But remember when there was that huge power outage in Kentucky for weeks. If 567 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:16.440 you if you didn't have cash, you were in real trouble. Okay, 568 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:22.679 So there are multiple things that can compromise because what we're talking about doing is 569 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.760 not allowing digital systems to get control. Yes, and that's why we always 570 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.800 say to people, the first thing you can do is to roll back digital 571 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.360 systems. Stop being so dependent on digital systems. You want to have analog 572 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.639 alternatives, and you want to be resilient in the face of real hiccups with 573 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:44.960 digital systems, whether it's a power outage, whether it's government sanctions, whether 574 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.679 it's central bank intervention, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But 575 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.159 you know, build that resiliency into your life. There many ways you can 576 00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.000 do it. So the first thing we talk about is, you know, 577 00:40:54.199 --> 00:41:01.320 is using cash and starting to engage with local businesses, particularly your farmers and 578 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:07.559 your farmer markets fresh food because the most important thing you need to do in 579 00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.360 this environment is you get a good, strong, clear brain and healthy body. 580 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.760 And that starts with good, healthy, fresh food. And as we 581 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.679 know, there's terrible deterioration in the quality of the food, so you know, 582 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.599 line up your food locally. The second thing you can do is bring 583 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:27.760 transparency. We have a wonderful post we link to it from that memo caled 584 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.519 I want to stop cbdc's what can I do? In it? Lists eleven 585 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.400 things you can do. But one of the things you can do is tell 586 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.000 your family and friends. So we have these eleven or we have a link 587 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.039 to these CBDC shorts and they're one minute, you know, the first three 588 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.440 or one minute each and the fourth one is two and a half minute, 589 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.920 really short. And in those three one minute videos, they will scare you 590 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.639 to death. And I defy anybody to think they don't need to take action 591 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:57.880 once they see those, you know, so you don't need to read a 592 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.159 lot of books or watch a lot of long videos. You know, in 593 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:05.119 three one minute videos, we can communicate to you why you got to do 594 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.280 something about this. That's great. Another thing people can do that is exceptionally 595 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:16.079 important is talk to your financial service providers. Talk to your CPA, talk 596 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:20.880 to your attorney, talk to your bank, talk to all these people and 597 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.280 get them realizing that they've got to push back. If the state, if 598 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:30.079 the state banking associations start to push back and protect people from transaction control, 599 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:36.320 you know, and compromise of their financial transaction freedom, they can have a 600 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.280 huge impact. And they should do that because if you look at what the 601 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:43.199 central bankers are up to, they intend to consolidate the banking system. They're 602 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.679 rolling out the FIT is rolling out the fast payment system. We saw what 603 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:50.280 they did to a group of banks last week. They're going to consolidate the 604 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.079 banking system, which is going to be terrible for the small business economy and 605 00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:57.400 terrible bottom up for the health of the economy and family. Well, so 606 00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.960 you know, get your banks, get your investment advisors, get your CPAs, 607 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:06.519 get your lawyers, get all your financial professionals lined up and educated, 608 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.599 you know, bring transparency and get them on board. The next thing you 609 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:14.840 need to do is there are you know, there are ten plus states in 610 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:20.960 this country that have legislative agendas that are filing and knocking through bills that are 611 00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:25.199 going to protect the financial transaction freedom of the people in those states. You 612 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:30.599 know, you and I are in Tennessee, and Tennessee is absolutely leading the 613 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:36.000 way. It's one of those states, and they're working on, you know, 614 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:42.000 sovereign payment systems or banks. They're working on bullion depositories in a way 615 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.599 for citizens to store their gold and silver but transact their gold and silver within 616 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:51.960 the state in a way that protects, absolutely protects financial transaction freedom and voting 617 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.719 gold and silver to be legal tender, so we can't get locked into a 618 00:43:54.760 --> 00:44:02.079 CBDC system. You know where we don't have legal tender unless use CBDCs. 619 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.679 There they've already taken in many states. In Tennessee, the sales tax off. 620 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.360 Part of that legal tender bill is to make sure gold is over protected 621 00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:17.440 from capital gains tax they're taking. They're doing moves to protect and build analog 622 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:23.480 payment systems so again that you can't have your digital systems shut down or controlled 623 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:30.719 from out of state. They are now bringing nullification laws. I'm sure you've 624 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:37.159 talked about that, changing the definition of money so it can't be you know, 625 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:43.960 CBDCs can't be included in the definition of money. Nullification bills. I 626 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:49.840 mentioned nullification already, nullification bills to make sure that constitutional, any law that's 627 00:44:49.920 --> 00:45:00.519 unconstitutional under both the federal constitution or the state constitution is included and then intercheck 628 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.480 there. Last time I talked to a senator nicely, we're talking about this 629 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.840 pistol brace thing, and he goes, oh, we've already got taken care 630 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:07.719 of. You know, we passed this nullification thing saying that if the federal 631 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:12.599 law conflicts with the Tennessee law, and he said, and then we passed 632 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.320 a they can't do it, they can't enforce it. And he said, 633 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:20.119 then we passed a law to make pistol braces legal. So they're on top 634 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.360 of it. They really really are on top of it. And they are 635 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.840 talking about educating the banks and you know, your CPA and anybody that you 636 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.440 deal with financially, and it's a really Last time I talked to him, 637 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:37.239 he was saying it was difficult to get the local banks to understand that a 638 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.239 state bank was going to help them like it did in North Dakota, where 639 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:44.159 they have a lot more local banks than any other state, and they have 640 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:45.920 worked to help them. And he goes, but they you talk about a 641 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.679 state bank and they think it's some kind of competition. So he came up 642 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:53.519 with the idea of calling it a Tennessee Reserve system and he said that stand 643 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.920 And yeah, brilliant at that, isn't he? Yeah, I think, 644 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:04.880 Senator nicely. You know, our our our team at Soilary, our number 645 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.679 one goal this year is to support financial transaction freedom because we want to be 646 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:14.440 free, and if we don't get financial transaction freedom, we won't be free. 647 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.440 And for us to be free, we need everybody to be free. 648 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.199 And I look around and I say, who are the most astute politicians who 649 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:29.079 can understand and move this kind of you know, build this infrastructure, you 650 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:30.360 know, one bill at a time, because it's going to take many, 651 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:35.840 many bills and quite an education. And I think Senator Nicely is the most 652 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:43.360 effective politician I have ever known or dealt with Washington State politicians, you know, 653 00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.440 global here in your I've never met a more effective politician my life. 654 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.519 Oh, I agree, I absolutely agree. Yeah, And so you know 655 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.119 we're talking about is you got to see this panel in Rogerville because he also 656 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:58.760 happens to be one of the funniest people alive. At one point he was 657 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.679 talking about his you know, I said to him, Senator Nicely, you 658 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:06.199 know, I hold you personally responsible for the traffic problems in Tennessee because for 659 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.760 the last ten to twelve years, you keep lowering taxes. And he said, 660 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.239 yeah, my wife says, you know, he's married to a Texan. 661 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.480 He says, my wife says, if we lower taxes anymore, he 662 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.719 said, everybody's going to move in here. And it's my fault that we 663 00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:25.880 have all these Yankees and Californians moved in. But I tell my wife, 664 00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:28.800 this is you got to watch it. It's so funny, he says, 665 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:30.440 I tell my wife. He said, you know, I don't mind the 666 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:36.440 Yankees moving in because one thing we know about Yankees they will fight. And 667 00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.480 we learned that the hard way. He really does know his history. That's 668 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.800 the other thing that's very interesting about sta and nicely. But you know what 669 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.480 you were talking about the pushbacks, and one of the things that you mentioned 670 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:52.679 when you were talking about pushbacks was, and you touched on it just now, 671 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.960 the definition of money and you see sees and you mentioned that South Carolina 672 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.039 had done that. I know that. Yeah, South Carolina moved to Florida 673 00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:06.119 and so so how many you have changed the definition of money to say nay, 674 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.920 CBDC. But it's going to be but we are going to allow this 675 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.039 and that as a definition. Yeah, I don't know how many. I 676 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.679 know Florida's done it. I know South Carolina has done it. We have 677 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:21.000 a team that's trying to collect but identify who has done all you know, 678 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:25.119 in fifteen different legislative categories, who has done what in terms of a state 679 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.840 bank, a sovereignby and depository whatever. So as we as we do that 680 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:35.320 we find more states. I will say this one of the things I would 681 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:40.079 like to have more capacity and is understanding how to protect states through the UCC 682 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.000 because a lot of the monkey business happens through the UCC, the Uniform Commercial 683 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:50.360 Code. So if there are UCC attorneys out there who are willing to help, 684 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:54.000 please, you know, this is a call for help because the UCC 685 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:59.679 is you know, it's it's state by state, but it's highly complicated, 686 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.639 as you know, David, and I think you know a lot of a 687 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.039 lot of the games are happening inside the UCC. Well, you know, 688 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.599 I remember when I first heard about that in conjunction with the CBDC. It 689 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:15.599 was Christinome in South Dakota who said, you know, this thing came across 690 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.639 and we vetoed it. But you know, be aware that there's more than 691 00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.239 twenty some odd states that have had that pushed out. And the next thing 692 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.280 I saw was that DeSantis went the opposite direction. You know, what they're 693 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:30.360 pushing out was legislation to say that CBDCs would have to be accepted as money. 694 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.480 DeSantis went the other way and said they will not be accepted as money, 695 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.320 but we will accept bitcoin and cash and all the rest of this stuff 696 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.800 right that we currently have and so now South Carolina has done that as Well's 697 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.079 that's good news. There's so many different ways that we can push back on 698 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.679 this and again went back. You know, there's a lot of pushback lawsuits 699 00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:52.480 against the companies because of damage and things like that. It is a constant 700 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:57.239 struggle and it really hard to try to keep to get a sense of whether 701 00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.559 people are waking up. I got to the point where I just thought, 702 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.760 nobody's we're going to wake up in twenty twenty. I just a tremendous number 703 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:05.559 of people are waking up. If you look at the pushback, I'll tell 704 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:10.960 you one of the greatest pushback sort of clusters is the state ags and treasures. 705 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.320 The Treasures are pushing back like crazy against ESG. We just had the 706 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:22.320 Treasure of Utah write a letter the SEC to try and stop or delay the 707 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.840 proposed comment rule ending on natural asset companies, which is another you know, 708 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:31.639 talk about talk about real trouble coming anyway. But the pushback by the state 709 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:37.679 ags, you know, so Missouri versus Biden is a great example of litigation 710 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:42.599 file by Louisiana and Missouri. You know, But the state ags and the 711 00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.760 treasures are on the move and they're teaming up. So if you look at 712 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:52.719 the filing at the of the Utah Treasure at the SEC, his letter was 713 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:58.719 signed by himself in twenty three other treasures, So you know they're teaming up 714 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.840 groups of ags, groups of treasures that Larry Think and Blackbrok have had to 715 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:08.679 roll back their whole ESG initiative because so many treasurers have pulled money or I 716 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:14.480 think one now I think Tennessee has sued, No, it's the treaser. 717 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:17.079 Somebody in Tennessee has sued the I think it's Scermetti, the I think it's 718 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.119 Skermetti, the Attorney Journal, it could be the AJ said it is fraudulent 719 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.079 because you're telling people that they're making an investment, so therefore you're going to 720 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:30.559 be trying to do things that you know are exercise care, fiduciary care, 721 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.760 the financial side, but you're completely ignoring the financial side, and you got 722 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.320 your own agenda over here. Well, but there's something else. Blackwork is 723 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.880 making huge fees off the state pension phones. And if you look at the 724 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.480 hypocrisy of what Larry Think is saying, it's it's extraordinary. I did a 725 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:52.360 wrap up in twenty nineteen called an ESG Turned the Red Button Green, and 726 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:57.599 basically what I was describing was all the hypocrisy in the system because they're using 727 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:04.719 it to enforce central control as opposed to enforce real standards that improve, in 728 00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:09.079 my opinion, the governance of society. So, you know, so Larry 729 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:14.800 Fingers has gotten called out on his hypocrisy, that's great. That's the treasurers 730 00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.360 who are coming out and saying we're going to move our investments away from them, 731 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:21.320 putting financial pressure on them. And then you've got some attorney general's attorney's 732 00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.079 general who are saying, well, this is fraudulent and we're going to sue 733 00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:28.159 them because they've told people that their company is about this, but it's actually 734 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:31.000 about this other thing. Well, here's the thing. At the very heart 735 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:36.519 of the pushback in all these different forms. What you're seeing is people on 736 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:40.320 the ground who want to be productive. You know, people want to go 737 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:46.400 to work and do a good job without having to you know, share bathrooms 738 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:51.400 with the other sex, Yeah, and get into that conversation. They want 739 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.480 to go back without you know, they want to be free to say something 740 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:59.159 without being fired. For you know, offending hate crimes. All this stuff 741 00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:05.840 is destroying productivity and they've had it. So what they're saying is we you 742 00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.360 know, so if I'm a treasurer, I'm looking across the state and saying, 743 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:15.280 the guys in Washington and Wall Street and Basel, Switzerland are using climate 744 00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:20.039 change as a ruse to shut down our businesses, take control of our markets 745 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.719 and steal our money. Yes, why should I finance them doing that? 746 00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.880 Because they're not doing what they say they're doing. They're just using this to 747 00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.920 assert central control. You know, just like during the pandemic, you shut 748 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:37.559 down ten small businesses, you leave Costco in the same shopping mall open, 749 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:42.440 and you know, on the theory that the magic virus only operates in small 750 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.599 business, but it doesn't operate in large publicly traded stocks, and you scarf 751 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:50.960 and steal the market share from the small businesses. Had nothing to do with 752 00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:55.119 health. It had to do with shifting significant market share out of locally owned 753 00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.320 and controlled businesses into publicly traded stocks. You know, And in a way 754 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.440 that made Larry think a lot of money, okay, and it's it's a 755 00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.920 scam. Yeah. That made me so angry when that was happening because I 756 00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:13.280 had lived that with my wife and I we had a video store business back 757 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.079 in the early nineties and we had a hurricane that came through and took power 758 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.280 out for several days, and we finally got it back in one area. 759 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.079 We opened up that store, and then the police came by and said, 760 00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:23.480 you got to shut your store down, and I said, well, Walmart 761 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:27.239 is open right across the store, right across the street. You know, 762 00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:31.039 you got to shut your your business down because you're you're attracting people to come 763 00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:34.440 out and drive around. They shouldn't be out driving around now. And it's 764 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:36.679 like, well, who you'd make that decision? Number one? And number 765 00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.679 two? You're telling me essentially what Trump said, You're not essential. You 766 00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:44.559 know Walmart is essential, but you closed down because you know they want you 767 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.960 know, basically, it's the big guys stealing market, sure from the old 768 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:51.400 guess that's right. It's very simple. It's a steal. It's called a 769 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:55.360 taking, yes, yes, and it's you know, hurting Main Street in 770 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:59.199 order to help Wall Street the big companies that are that are essential. And 771 00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.480 so when I saw that, I'd already lived that for just a couple of 772 00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:05.280 days, and it made me so angry to see that they were going to 773 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.159 be putting people out of business who had poured their sweat and energy and capital 774 00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:12.599 into this and worked it for years, just to be told they're non essential. 775 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:16.400 I still get angry when I think about that, but talk about some 776 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:21.519 of the other things. Here's but here's what happened in twenty twenty three. 777 00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.679 In twenty twenty one, people agreed to play along with that are twenty twenty 778 00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:34.000 because they thought the government had a legitimate reason. Once you understand that this 779 00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:38.480 is just a mafia trying to steal your business, that's when you say, 780 00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:44.360 oh, two people can play this game. So you the municipality are going 781 00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:46.480 to shut me down. Great, I'm going to audit your books. I'm 782 00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:50.960 going to get all your financial disclosure, and I'm going to dig into your 783 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:52.599 money, and I'm going to dig into the money of everybody in the city 784 00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.920 council. By the time i'm through, y'all going to be gone. So 785 00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.599 we have a wonderful woman who works for us in Tennessee. She was in 786 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.639 Knoxville. She tried to get the mask man and canceled and couldn't do it, 787 00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.920 and so she went in and figured out the committee you know, in 788 00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:13.920 government that was deciding this. She figured out how they were formed, and 789 00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:16.719 she got the committee canceled, and they canceled. You know, there was 790 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:21.480 no mask man because the committee that was supposed to implement it was gone. 791 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:23.719 That's great, and that's what really needs to happen because and that's the thing 792 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:28.480 that concerns me is that, you know, we're not In so many cases 793 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:30.880 we have seen people who are just, oh, I'm so glad that this 794 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:32.639 isn't happening again. They realize there's a fraud. They don't want to play 795 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.960 it along with it. But now that it's ended, as you point out, 796 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:39.119 everybody just wants to get along with their life right instead of going out 797 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.119 and say they want to be productive, they want to build family wealth. 798 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:46.400 And that's why you have to give them ways of pushing back that they can 799 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:51.480 push back in a way that helps them build family wealth. So what we're 800 00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:57.760 saying is make yourself more resilient, make yourself more successful, lower your dependency. 801 00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.239 Every time you pull money and market share out of the companies that are 802 00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:06.199 doing this, you know, and the support the politicians who are doing this, 803 00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.559 you make yourself more powerful. You make yourself stronger and they get weaker. 804 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.800 So it's like it's like having a tapeworm. You know. What we're 805 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.519 saying is detox the tapeworm to make yourself stronger. And anytime you can do 806 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:22.039 anything that lowers your dependency on their systems, like using cash. I mean, 807 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.400 using cash is really you know, can save you a lot of money. 808 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.119 I mean, we've proven again and again if people use cash, they 809 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:32.519 spend less, they're more careful, they think through, you know, their 810 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.800 purchase decisions. But you can also build up incredibly great relationships with your local 811 00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:42.119 business. You know, in the process of transacting with them. It's a 812 00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:46.599 much more intimate way of transacting and you find all sorts of opportunities when that 813 00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:53.159 conversation gets going. So people are busy, and this is an exhausting environment 814 00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:58.719 in many ways because of the compliance and rules, and people don't like to 815 00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:02.280 fight and add friction and because that doesn't get them anywhere. A lot of 816 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.960 times, you know, they see a lot of people fighting in ways that 817 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.159 aren't effective. They don't want to be a part of that. So you 818 00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:14.599 need to give them ways of pushing back which help to build their strength and 819 00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:19.760 power. And wealth. I go back, the most important one is they 820 00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:24.440 have to be healthy and that means, you know, if I encourage anyone 821 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:30.840 to invest time in building wealth. Step one is getting the knowledge you need 822 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:37.239 to take responsibility for your own health and making sure you're getting clean water and 823 00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.760 nutritious food and you are not get poisoned. You know, because we are 824 00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:45.159 in the middle, particularly in America, a great poisoning oh yea, and 825 00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:51.000 people are getting sick from being poisoned, and they need to understand what the 826 00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:54.519 process is and how to protect themselves and their family. And if people are 827 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:59.320 really good at protecting themselves from the great poison David, they have ten times 828 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.000 more energy, that's right. So step number one is get yourself off the 829 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:07.119 poison treadmill. And when you look at it the you know it's going to 830 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.440 cost you more to get this other food, right, but not if you 831 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:14.639 compare that to what's going to happen if you get sick and you got to 832 00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:17.519 engage with a healthcare system. Okay, that just blows what. You can 833 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:22.800 buy organic food all day forever before you have your first hospital bill. They're 834 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.639 going to really fleece you. Talk about destroying you financially, that's what happens 835 00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:30.239 with the hospital system. So if you can stay out of that and all 836 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:32.480 clean food, you're way ahead of the game, even financially, not alone 837 00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:37.159 in terms of enjoying the help. Absolutely that Our anial wrap up last year 838 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:42.360 is called pharm of Food and it was on synthetic food and lap grown meat, 839 00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.960 and it was the hardest thing I've ever had to read. We hired 840 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:51.559 this wonderful Dutch journalist, elsavon Homeland to write it, and she did an 841 00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:54.039 incredible job, and when she came back with it so the first time in 842 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:58.199 my life, I couldn't read a draft the whole way through because it's so 843 00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:04.079 evil. If you eat the hundreds of billions of dollars they're throwing it, 844 01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:08.119 making thirty dollars hamburgers that are you know, created with three D printing. 845 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:13.760 Is it's so horrible. You can't imagine that they want anybody to eat this, 846 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:16.559 you know, and nobody's going to eat it without financial transaction control because 847 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:20.679 they're going to mandate the only food you're allowed to buy or sort of bugs 848 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:25.039 and synthetic meat. So anyway, we published it and I thought, David, 849 01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:30.239 it would be the least popular wrap up that we ever published because it's 850 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:35.719 so horrible and gruesome. We published it and it's brilliant. It really warrants 851 01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:39.920 you about what these guys are up to and why you can't allow financial transaction 852 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.760 to control happen because this is the food they're going to try and feed you. 853 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:50.719 And anyway, we published it and it was hugely popular and successful because 854 01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:53.760 all the fresh food people used it to market. You know, all the 855 01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:58.039 people of the farmer's market are like, you know, here's what they're going 856 01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.360 to do if you don't support us. And I had one subscriber writing as 857 01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:05.880 what you know, we get these great emails and they said, you know, 858 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.320 I have tried and tried and tried to get my husband to buy from 859 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:14.920 the local farmers and farmers market and really develop our fresh food supply locally, 860 01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.000 and he says it's too hard work and it's too much money. I gave 861 01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:23.960 him farm of Food. He said, I am all in. Well, 862 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:28.239 say, you know, it's great that you got that. It was really 863 01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:31.440 a shame if we moved here. We finally found a local farm that was 864 01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:35.039 doing a clean local food and everything, and uh huh, you know, 865 01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:37.199 we could get Raw Milk as a membership club and things like that, Oh 866 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.559 wonderful. And we only did that for a couple of months and then they 867 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:42.840 said, we just got a close. We can't can't keep it going. 868 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.599 There's not enough demand. And that's the key thing. It really so sassin. 869 01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:49.360 Now we're looking again, you know, but it is so sad to 870 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:53.280 see how difficult it is for them to maintain that. But how imuch, 871 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:58.440 I don't know. If Edible Communities has a magazine for your area, look 872 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.519 at the Edible Communities. It's a franchise of local food magazines all over the 873 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:07.880 country. And I thought I knew every fresh food farmer in my area until 874 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:13.639 I got the Edible Communities magazine from Memphis, and I found so many great 875 01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:15.480 sources after I got it, So I would check that out. And of 876 01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:20.159 course check out the Western Price Club where you are, because they're Western Price 877 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:24.960 chapters all over the world and they have the greatest networks into knowing what the 878 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.960 great food is in your area, and they're the ones who've led the campaign 879 01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:32.400 on raw milk, and raw Milk is one of the great success stories because 880 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.159 we're now up to forty six states, you know, where there is a 881 01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:39.760 pathway to buying raw milk, and that is extraordinary and it's been the rest 882 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:44.800 and price guys who really did that. So yeah, and of course the 883 01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:46.599 other part of this, And Thomas Massey has been involved in this and I've 884 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.199 reported it's my hero. Yeahs Massey was here of the Week three times on 885 01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:58.239 this lay important twenty twenty three. Yeah, he's by far and away the 886 01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:02.519 best US congressman this half the absolutely hands down. But he's focused on this 887 01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.679 whole thing about the fact and a particular Amish farmer. As a matter of 888 01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:09.519 fact, there's an update that just happened. This guy that's been harassed by 889 01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:15.440 the USDA because he wants to butcher the meat there on the farm and do 890 01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:16.719 it cleanly. I'm sure I can't remember the guy's name, but I'm sure 891 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:20.840 you know the case. Yeah, come back and hit him again, because 892 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.119 it's very important for them that you've got to go to their centrally controlled meat 893 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:29.639 process waterhouses. Yeah, exactly, And that's it. And it's much safer. 894 01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:34.039 A good a good local operation on the farm is much safer. So 895 01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.360 you know, so Massy has the what's the name of the Prime Act. 896 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:42.280 Yes, so we've been supporting for several years, trying to get the PRIMAC 897 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.880 passed. And you know, it's funny one of the things I do. 898 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:49.239 Uh, you know, it started with Ron Paul, but then it went 899 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.400 to Massy. Whenever I'm depressed, you know, I'm just thinking, oh 900 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.599 God, it's you know, I'm fighting with what I call the force to 901 01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.719 nothing. I'm fighting with nothing. You know, i have to do something 902 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:01.920 to make myself feel good. And I'll send us a donation to Massy. 903 01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:09.039 It's like, Okay, I'll put fuel in the leader's pocket and I'll feel 904 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:12.199 better. He's a good guy. He's a good and he stands like Ron 905 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:15.119 Paul. He stands alone if he has to, Uh, well, what 906 01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.800 is in the water in Kentucky that we you know, we get because Ram 907 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:23.840 Paul's in Kentucky, Massy's in Kentucky. Yeah, he definitely stood up and 908 01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:27.119 he stood up against that trillions of dollars that Trump wanted to put in. 909 01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.280 Trump wanted to get him out, but he didn't get him out. So 910 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:31.840 that's good. I think the people my favorite. If you go to Silaria 911 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:35.920 and do a search for Massy, you'll pull this up. One of the 912 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:43.000 heroes of the week was Massy absolutely slaughtering that idiot from Texas. Uh, 913 01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:46.039 you know, not many idiots come from Texas, but this one is the 914 01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:51.400 Secretary of Transportation on electric cars because mass he's an MIT engineer, yes, 915 01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:56.039 you know, and he knows the whole, the whole. You know, 916 01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:01.920 electric cars are mathematically enter you know, the the math of the energy, 917 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:06.719 the math of the environment, the math of the economics. They're absolutely insane. 918 01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:11.239 They make no sense whatsoever. Yeah, it only makes sense in the 919 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.280 scientific term if your degree is in political science, and that's what he also 920 01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:17.800 did. If you want total control, so if you want to be able 921 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:21.440 to turn off people's car, So if I lock you down, you can't 922 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:25.559 go more five miles from your home, your car will turn off and it 923 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.199 won't work more than five miles from your home. I know exactly what it's 924 01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:32.599 about. Digital concentration camps. Yes, right, right, that's true. 925 01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:38.960 Yeah, yeah, he had he had John carry on and John carry any 926 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.000 FOI So you got a science degree, well, yeah, he goes political 927 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:45.000 science. Right, that's what I want. Jim Carrey's got a political science 928 01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.719 degree because there isn't any you know, there isn't any science between these I 929 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:53.000 call them mcguffin's, which is what Hitchcock called them. You know, it 930 01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.519 doesn't really matter what it is. It could be the Maltese falcon, would 931 01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.559 be something else, but it's whatever motivates the people to do that. So 932 01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:00.039 it could be the virus, or it could be the climate. But they've 933 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:04.119 always got the same solution. Yeah, you got to get an idea and 934 01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:08.039 you got to put them in charge. Is big them permission for everything. 935 01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:12.079 But it doesn't matter what the mcguffin is. It's interchangeable. Just whatever you 936 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.519 use to motivate the people. It seems like it always. So when I 937 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:18.400 became Assistant Sectory of Housing, the Secretary wanted to do a big housing bill. 938 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.519 You know, he wanted a big accomplishment. He wanted a big housing 939 01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:27.280 bill. So the goal was how do we get the Democrats on board for 940 01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.199 And we got Jim Rouse around Fanny May I'm sorry, Jim Rouse around the 941 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:35.320 Enterprise Foundation and David Maxwell around Fanny May. They had done a big commission 942 01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:41.559 on housing that proposed a lot of decentralization. They were both big Democrats, 943 01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:46.519 and we got David and Jim to come in wonderful men and camp the secretary 944 01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:51.119 is trying to persuade him into a new housing bill, and a lot of 945 01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:59.840 what Camp was proposing was more centralization. And David and Jim were, you 946 01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:02.599 know, they're wonderful people, very big hearts, and they and they were 947 01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:08.400 saying, well, you know, Jack, you're a Republican. Republicans beliuting 948 01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:13.719 decentralization, and we proposed a lot of decentralization, and you know, so 949 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:16.760 we think you should, you know, you would like what we're proposing. 950 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:21.119 And uh, and there was he had these two little assistants from the Heritage 951 01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:26.840 Foundation who were truly frightening, and one of them said, so Jack is 952 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:30.880 proposing more centralization. The Democrats are proposing decentralization, which is supposed to be 953 01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:34.920 the opposite of their their ideologies. So they said, you know, don't 954 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:39.920 don't you want to decentralize. Why would you want to centralize? And one 955 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.119 of the special assistants bursted out. He says, yeah, but we're here 956 01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:49.840 now. That's it. We're here now. Yeah. It's like, bring 957 01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:55.000 the blood to the empire headquarters, Bring the blood to the empire. More 958 01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:59.119 extraction, more extraction. That's why I had to leave Washington, That's why 959 01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:01.880 I moved to Tennessee. It was like, you know, you can't decentralize 960 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:05.639 from Washington. That's right, that's right, You've got a nullify. You've 961 01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:09.000 got to have some things at the local level. So you've talked about some 962 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.159 of these things, Sovereign State Bank. I'm looking at your list here actions 963 01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:15.279 that can be taken to secure financial freedom. And so you start out with 964 01:08:15.319 --> 01:08:20.720 state and local government, but then you talk about having some local organizations to 965 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.680 try to help this mate, because you don't want to all be in. 966 01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:27.079 You can't get too much done on your own. You've got so you've got 967 01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:29.800 three different sections. There's state and local, you got what you can do 968 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:31.760 with small associations, and then things that you can do as an individual. 969 01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.840 It's a great right and what you can do as an investor. I do 970 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:40.560 want to mention the second memo in the document in the Financial the Future Financial 971 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:45.359 Freedom and wrap up is our Sovereign State Bank memo by Richard Werner outstanding and 972 01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.720 explains to you why you do not want to let the central bankers consolidate the 973 01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:54.439 small banks. You do not want that to happen. And the pandemic, 974 01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:59.039 you know, was hard on the small banks and we want a strong small 975 01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.399 banking and it it explains why the health of an economy and the small business 976 01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:08.840 economy in Main Street depend on lots of healthy small banks and so one of 977 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:11.840 the most important things. And this is what correct understands. And I don't 978 01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:16.760 think that the banking associations understand yet. They don't understand what a threat CBDC 979 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:21.920 and digital idea and fast payment systems are. And you know, I want 980 01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:28.399 to stress again what we're trying to get is financial transaction freedom. CBDCs is 981 01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.720 not the only problem. Fast payment systems and what they can do with credit 982 01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:35.800 cards and banking accounts without CBDCs. You know, that kind of control is 983 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:40.119 a real problem. It's a real problem now, so as we solve with 984 01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:45.880 the Tennessee truckers. So anyway, so this memo on sovereign state banks is 985 01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:49.439 very very good and important and it helps you understand why you want the state 986 01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:54.479 to be able to transact without the Feds of the central banks being able to 987 01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:59.359 shut them down, and to afford that protection to the local banks and the 988 01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:02.960 local citizen. Sense. You want financial liquidity that the FEDS can't kill. 989 01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:08.319 That's right, that's right, and right now we have, as you know, 990 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:12.239 you're well aware. We look at the situation how the deficit has exploded. 991 01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.720 I talked about that earlier. You know, we were at only about 992 01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:20.319 ten trillion dollars about fifteen years ago, and now has exploded up to thirty 993 01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:23.960 four trillion dollars. But I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg. 994 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.560 As I point out, there's all these other things in terms of obligations that 995 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:31.920 the federal government has, and so there's this massive system that is really not 996 01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:36.279 sustainable and corrupt, and so what happens as we start to see it's also 997 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:40.680 another thing that's happened is the deficit is going up, and as we're using 998 01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:44.600 the dollar as a weapon, fewer and fewer people are using a broader or 999 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:46.560 or getting off of the dollars a reserve currency. What are going to be 1000 01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:51.079 the implications if that continues and accelerates. What's going to be the implication? 1001 01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:58.800 Higher prices, higher prices, higher prices. So as the squeeze comes on 1002 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.199 a value, you know, basically the reason everybody's been going along with the 1003 01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:09.600 crime is the you know, the criminals have been sharing you know, crumbs 1004 01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:13.880 with us. Yeah, so if you talk to a state legislator, why 1005 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:19.119 can't we establish you know, so Tennessee is considering rejecting federal education aid. 1006 01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:24.199 You know, there's an addiction to the money, that's right. So the 1007 01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:28.439 central banks print money and use that money to buy us even though that drives 1008 01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:30.840 up inflation. So at the end of the day, we don't end up 1009 01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.920 better off. But you know, we have this addiction to getting federal money. 1010 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:39.840 So we're on the doll and as we stay on the dole, our 1011 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:44.279 economies get weaker and weaker and weaker, you know, and we become more 1012 01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:48.760 and more dependent on that doll. So so there is a financial addiction going 1013 01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:54.800 on to central bank printed money, and that is going to the question is 1014 01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:58.199 when is the pain great enough that we're willing to walk away from that money. 1015 01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:03.000 Now as they share lesson less crumbs and prices go up and up from 1016 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:09.199 this sort of inflation game, you know, when are people going to realize 1017 01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:15.000 we are better off creating the conditions of sovereignty rejecting that money. And while 1018 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:16.880 I will tell you, David is you know, in the nineties at Hamilton 1019 01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:21.159 Securities, I did a lot of simulation of what we could do if we 1020 01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:28.159 took government money and we re engineered it to optimize economic health as opposed to 1021 01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:30.880 central control. Yeah, that's right. And if you know, it's going 1022 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:34.439 to be a rough transition because we've delayed it for so long. But if 1023 01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:40.079 we go through that transition, we can build a much more moral and productive 1024 01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:43.560 society. Oh I agree, I agree. Yeah. Yeah, that's always 1025 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:45.359 been the case, and it's been difficult. I've had this frustrating thing, 1026 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.520 feel like I'm banging my head against the wall when I talk to people about 1027 01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:51.359 what happened in twenty twenties. Said, well, Trump didn't do it, 1028 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:54.680 and I said, no, you understand it's the money, right, That's 1029 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:58.199 how they get That's how they get around the tenth Amendment. They bribe people, 1030 01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.279 They get you addicted to the money, and then they pull it back 1031 01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:01.920 and say, well, now I'm going to blackmail you. If you look 1032 01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:05.039 at what happened with Trump. You know he's out there his administration. They're 1033 01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:09.800 giving a twenty percent bonus if you identify somebody as COVID. They're giving you 1034 01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:14.199 a bonus to diagnose them at thirteen thousand dollars thirty nine thousand dollars, you've 1035 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.960 ventilator twenty percent on everything that you do. And then when Biden comes in 1036 01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:19.560 and now that they've gotten used to this money, he says, well, 1037 01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:23.600 if you don't get everybody in the hospital vaccinate, I'm going to not give 1038 01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:27.439 you any Medicare or medicaid. I'm going to shut everything off. That's the 1039 01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:30.000 way it always works, going back into the night. But I'm going to 1040 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.960 be tough on Trump because he's swum ten billion dollars of taxpayers money into a 1041 01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:42.800 military program that completely bypassed all the safety things you know that are implicit in 1042 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:46.279 healthcare law to poison millions of Americans. So that's right. Yeah, he's 1043 01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:49.600 a poisoner in chief, absolutely no doubt about it. Exactly. It was 1044 01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:54.119 a military operation, that's what i was a military operation, and he put 1045 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.760 ten billion, He put ten billion dollars behind it, and he appointed to 1046 01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:01.720 run a man who was a bring machine interface expert from Glaxo Smith Klin. 1047 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:06.479 Yeah, and they've been practicing this, you know, since two months before 1048 01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:10.359 nine to eleven. You know, they've had their annual germ game thing and 1049 01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:13.640 it's coming from the from DARPA. So of course they're going to have the 1050 01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:15.880 White Speed thing be a military thing. Yeah, it's really difficult to get 1051 01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:18.920 people to understand that. Sometimes. I explain, you know, when I 1052 01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:23.560 was, when we were doing homeschooling of our kids were now grown, I 1053 01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:26.600 know that there were a lot of people in the homeschool facil a community that 1054 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:31.439 wanted to say, well, let's have let's let's fight to get our kids 1055 01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:35.800 into the sports programs and the band programs and things like that. And I 1056 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:39.079 said, you know, there's going to be strings attached. All that money 1057 01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:41.279 and all those benefits that you're fighting for. They're going to use that to 1058 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:44.039 blackmail you. And that's exactly what they do. They get around the Tenth 1059 01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:46.199 Amendment by offering people money, getting them addicted to the money, and then 1060 01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.600 say okay, now put the boys in the girls bathroom. We're going to 1061 01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:51.880 take the money away. It always works out that way, really. So 1062 01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:56.840 one of my favorite quotes is from Franklin Sanders is that wonderful. I don't 1063 01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:00.399 know if you've had Franklin. He's wonderful, precious metals dealer pastor in Middle 1064 01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.039 Tennessee. He says, all government money comes with a sock in the jaw. 1065 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:11.279 That's a good way to put it. Well, tell us a little 1066 01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:14.600 bit about the tour because we're about out of time. It's going to be 1067 01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:17.079 you're going to have So I'm coming down to Tennessee. I should be there 1068 01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:21.560 by the twenty third, and then I'm heading over to Middle Tennessee. I 1069 01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:26.000 got a lot of meetings in Nashville and some of the surrounding states. I'm 1070 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.960 going to drop down to Mississippi and Alabama, and you know, some of 1071 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.800 the lot of the states around Tennessee are talking about doing the same things and 1072 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:39.000 talking about how they network together. Yes, as a thing too, having 1073 01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:41.680 a network of states. That's one of the things Senator Nicey's talked about. 1074 01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.640 I got to get. The network of states is you know, I don't 1075 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:49.079 want to call it the confederacy, but anyway would be. I guess, 1076 01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:56.279 but I because now you're talking about something that's much more bottom up, where 1077 01:15:56.279 --> 01:16:00.000 the states cooperate and coordinate, you know, deal by deal transactions. So 1078 01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:05.520 you so you have a you know, so so you have relationships where you're 1079 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:10.680 helping each other do a better job, go faster, and they're you know, 1080 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:14.359 given the different strengths of the different states, there's so much that can 1081 01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:18.800 be done to cooperate between those states that will really help advantage each other. 1082 01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:23.119 So, you know, I think it's pretty exciting. And if you look 1083 01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:29.439 at the you know, we have an extraordinary number of very capable and talented 1084 01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:33.760 state legislators who have been you know, they haven't gone up to the federal 1085 01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:39.520 level. They haven't become senators or congressmen because they're too clean. Yeah, 1086 01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:44.359 they're too clean. But they're very, very competent, and they're very capable, 1087 01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:49.239 and and it's taken a while for them to realize, oh, I'm 1088 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:55.920 more competent to engineer this than you know, all these hot shots. You 1089 01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.199 know, they're they've got a control file, they're they're on, you know, 1090 01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:00.680 they're on a leak. I'm not on. I can do this. 1091 01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:05.439 And so that's what's important is that the state and local races is far more 1092 01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:10.199 important. You have far more leverage than you do with Washington. So I'm 1093 01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:14.319 telling you to spend almost all your time and money this year on your state 1094 01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:16.720 and local races. That's right. You know, don't worry about the federal 1095 01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:21.680 election because this will be sincided. And if you're in a state that where 1096 01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:27.439 there's not going to be financial transaction, freedom and you can move. You 1097 01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:30.319 know, you may get your you know, think about what I don't want 1098 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:34.560 to say that because the traffic problem is really that. Think about what happened 1099 01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:38.399 in twenty twenty. And that's where you can see that where the rubber meets 1100 01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:41.359 the road is at the local level. So your schedule is going to be 1101 01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:45.319 there as I'm coming. I'm coming at the end of January, and I'll 1102 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:49.279 be over. I'll be in Hickory Valley for the first week or two, 1103 01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:53.960 and then I'll move over to Shelbyville and be going up spending a lot of 1104 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:59.119 time in Nashville, and then I'll be networking around the state for lots of 1105 01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:02.680 meetings, and then head up to New England for the the end of figure 1106 01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.439 I'll be there for a week and then come back to Tennessee. But I'll 1107 01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:10.960 also be going. We'll be going around the country and we'll at some point 1108 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:13.680 we'll put off our schedule by the end of the month so people will know 1109 01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:17.079 where we're going. We're really responding to clusters of people, particularly Celerat Report 1110 01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:21.560 subscribers who want to meet up. And it's great because when you know, 1111 01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:25.560 one of the things that happens and this is one of the reasons I want 1112 01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:30.399 to do this is we have these wonderful subscribers and they're in a place and 1113 01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:34.600 they say they're no like minded people around, and I'll look at our database 1114 01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:38.319 and I'll say, look, they're a ton of like minded people around, 1115 01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:42.359 just they're all subscribing to the larboard. So we'll go there and meet up 1116 01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:45.720 and then everybody meets and it's so amazing to watch, David, because literally 1117 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:51.600 you can be in some of these meetings and within within an hour they look 1118 01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:56.279 like they've known each other for twenty years. It's so fabulous, you know, 1119 01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.880 it's so fabulous. So anyway, so we're going to try and do 1120 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:01.880 a lot of meetups and make sure people can find each other, you know, 1121 01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:06.079 sort of in their local areas. Good. So people check the checkslar 1122 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:12.920 dot com, say your schedule as it gets finalized, because you're still building 1123 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:15.319 that. So that's great. Looking forward to seeing you at one of these 1124 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:19.159 and I'll be checking the site to see where that's going to be coming. 1125 01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:21.840 Thank you so much for joining us, Catherine Austin Fitz, Thank you, 1126 01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:26.119 David. I just love what you do. I always love what you do, 1127 01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:44.560 and thank you. Thank you very much. The common man. They 1128 01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:48.199 created common Core, dumbed down our children. They created common past, track 1129 01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:55.720 and control us their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the 1130 01:19:55.800 --> 01:20:02.239 communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But 1131 01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:10.000 each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God. That 1132 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:13.399 is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away. 1133 01:20:14.279 --> 01:20:19.039 Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to 1134 01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:25.520 know everything about us, while they hide everything from us. It's time to 1135 01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:30.000 turn that around and expose what they want to hide. Please share the information 1136 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:34.479 and links you'll find at The Davidnightshow dot com. Thank you for listening, 1137 01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:44.800 Thank you for sharing. If you can't support us financially, please keep us 1138 01:20:44.840 --> 01:21:09.399 in your prayers. The Davidknightshow dot Com. All right, welcome back. 1139 01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:14.159 We have Aaron Day and he has been a Republican candidate for a president. 1140 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:15.720 I was going to say, you know, if he wants to extend this 1141 01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:18.319 campaign, he could have me as his running mate. We could be Dan 1142 01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:23.880 Knight. But we are not on opposite ends when it comes to CBDC. 1143 01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.560 We're both of the same mind and as I said earlier in the program. 1144 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:31.079 I saw his article on Brownstone and it was actually an excerpt from his book, 1145 01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:33.840 So we want to talk to him about that. But as he was 1146 01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:39.960 running for a president, he made CBDC the central point of that. And 1147 01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:43.800 so thank you for joining us, Aaron Day, appreciate it, thank you 1148 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.359 for having me. And we were talking off air, and I wanted my 1149 01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:51.000 first question was going to be you said you have suspended your campaign now, 1150 01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:55.600 but my first question was going to be what was your take on how some 1151 01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:59.920 of the candidates have talked about this issue. Of course, we'd had Desantist 1152 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.199 talk about it, we had Ramaswami talk about it, and we've had Trump 1153 01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:06.399 recently talk about it. Tell people your take on this, and tell people 1154 01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:12.239 your story about what happened after you suspended your campaign. Sure well, I 1155 01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:15.119 ran for president specifically to bring this issue up. In fact, my goal 1156 01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:18.359 in running as a Republican was to try to get into the debates so that 1157 01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:23.560 I could elevate this issue on the national stage. Little did I know that 1158 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.800 the debates were going to turn out to be, you know, meanless, 1159 01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:29.079 people wouldn't watch them, and they were going to be structured in such a 1160 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:31.760 way where you couldn't even talk about issues like CBDC or anything that happened with 1161 01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:38.000 COVID. But in the process I did chat with many of the other candidates, 1162 01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.800 and in fact, I've given copies of my book to several of the 1163 01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:45.119 candidates. The most interesting one was with Vibek. He actually read my book 1164 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.560 and we discussed it. I gave him a copy of my book in June, 1165 01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:51.359 and I actually have interacted with him on a number of different occasions. 1166 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:56.560 And so when he dropped out and endorsed Trump, one of the first things 1167 01:22:56.560 --> 01:23:01.000 that happened was he had consulted with Trump on the CBDC position. And so 1168 01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:05.079 Trump came out in New Hampshire and Portsmouth actually, which I'm in New Hampshire, 1169 01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:11.239 That's where I live. He came out and adopted an anti CBDC stance. 1170 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:14.760 So I was grateful for that, and I hope that in a way 1171 01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:19.079 my book and my conversations with by Vek actually helped push that issue and put 1172 01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:24.520 a sense of urgency around it and the other candidates. As you mentioned, 1173 01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:30.720 DeSantis has been anti CBDC, rfk Junior has been anti CBDC. Haley has 1174 01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:34.800 not spoken about it, although based on her idea of you should have a 1175 01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:39.079 you know, need a digital ID in order to access the Internet. I 1176 01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.640 guessing she's going to be on the wrong side. I think she would say, 1177 01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:44.760 if you're going to buy something, I want to know your name, 1178 01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:46.039 because he wants to know your name if you're going to get on the internet. 1179 01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:49.840 So yeah, I thank you. Exactly, Yeah, exactly. But 1180 01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:57.079 part of the conclusion of my book is that they're really I believe there's a 1181 01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.319 greater than fifty percent chance that we're going to have at CBDC implemented before the 1182 01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:04.199 twenty twenty four election. And so a big part of what I'm doing in 1183 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:09.239 this book and in doing workshops across the country is trying to educate people on 1184 01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:13.960 what they can do outside of voting, which is to exit the dollar and 1185 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:17.640 move into self custody crypto gold and silver and start using it in a parallel 1186 01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:23.880 economy. And part of what happened happened is traveling around the country. You 1187 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:27.720 know, I spoke with Senator Ted Cruz, who is the leading opponent of 1188 01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:31.800 CBDC in the US Senate. He put a bill out there to try to 1189 01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:35.640 stop CBDCs and halt CBDCs, and it failed. And he said flat out, 1190 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:42.119 there aren't the votes in the United States Senate to stop CBDCs. It's 1191 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.239 that amazing the Senate is currently Isn't that amazing that they won't vote for it? 1192 01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:47.760 You know? I saw that Tom Emmer, who's the House whip. 1193 01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:53.560 You know, he came out in opposition to CBDC right about the same time 1194 01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:58.600 as desantists did, and I thought, well, that's good, and that's 1195 01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:00.479 interesting. Where's he coming from? And then I realized that he's got a 1196 01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:05.079 lot of ties to cryptocurrency, And of course there is this, you know, 1197 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:11.560 the pushers of CBDC, like Liz Warren and Biden, all the rest 1198 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.239 of them. They want to shut down the competition from cryptocurrency, obviously, 1199 01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:20.199 and so I kind of got the sense that Tom Emmer was talking about CBDC 1200 01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:25.880 in order to defend the people that he's allied with in the crypto industry. 1201 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:30.399 But before whatever's motivations were, I thought it was good that it was happening. 1202 01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:36.239 But isn't it Isn't it depressingly strange that nobody in the Senate will support 1203 01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:44.079 something that has the ability to turn us into the worst dystopian novel that anybody 1204 01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:46.880 has ever imagined worse than anything people have imagined in the past. Well, 1205 01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:50.239 it's strange, and it's really discouraging because one of the things that Ted said 1206 01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:57.039 was that he thinks that there's a reasonable shot that Elizabeth Warren becomes the chair 1207 01:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.119 of the Finance Committee in twenty twenty four, depending upon the outcome of the 1208 01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:02.640 election. And in fact, Cruz himself is only ahead by two points in 1209 01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:08.279 Texas and so there's been a lot of discussion about the amount of money Soros 1210 01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:11.760 is putting into Texas and everything else. So Cruise is actually, I believe 1211 01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:17.399 it or not, on the hot seat there again after his challenge from Beido 1212 01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:21.079 last time around. So yeah, he said absolutely. So they're really there, 1213 01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:24.600 really aren't the votes. I mean there are some. Cynthia Loomis has 1214 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:30.199 been one in the Senate who's also been pro crypto. But I'll tell you 1215 01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:34.000 what I think is going to happen is we're going to have a situation that 1216 01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:39.560 is going to gain bipartisan support for pushing a CBDC, and that's going to 1217 01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:43.840 be around terrorism and money laundering. And you're already starting to see the discussion 1218 01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.960 around that, and that is an issue so let's say now that you know 1219 01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:51.439 Biden has decided we're going to begin our military excursions in the Middle East, 1220 01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:56.079 if there's a terrorist attack in the United States, I could see us having 1221 01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:59.920 CBDC implemented in a matter of a couple of weeks here in the US if 1222 01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:02.279 there's a terrorist attack, because they'll say, well, it's about money laundering 1223 01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:06.159 and terrorism. Crypto's bad, they'll say, because it's used for terrorism, 1224 01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:11.640 which isn't true or not even close to the scale that cash is used. 1225 01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:14.920 But then but then they'll say, well, we can't have cash either, 1226 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.960 because cash can't be traced. And so this is going to be the typical 1227 01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:26.199 reason of using a fear based event to push something that absolutely scripts us of 1228 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.159 our rights. The questions, how is Obama going to get billions of dollars 1229 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:36.199 to to the Iranians if we can't send them a plane filled with the cash 1230 01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:40.479 foreign currencies especially, maybe it'd be the other foreign currencies of other people that 1231 01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:44.880 he'll use to pay them off. But the problem with these CBDCs is the 1232 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.760 ccs. CBDCs are not like Bitcoin, where there's a transparent ledger of all 1233 01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:54.840 of the transactions and a fixed supply the kinds of CBDC they're looking at implementing. 1234 01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:58.439 They're going to have control over how much they will be able to digitally 1235 01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:01.079 print it, and they'll be able to me program the money in ways that 1236 01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:04.439 we're not going to be able to see. So in some ways they're going 1237 01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:10.640 to have even more capacity to do nefarious things. I agree, based on 1238 01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:14.039 how structure. Yeah, we didn't start with that in terms of the features, 1239 01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:18.600 and listeners of this program pretty much know about CBDC, but it kind 1240 01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:23.720 of lay out the case against this in a nutshell when you would present this 1241 01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:26.239 to people who didn't know anything about it, because, as I pointed out 1242 01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:29.399 in the past, a lot of times, people didn't know what CBDC was. 1243 01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:33.159 But if you described the functions to them and it's the potential risks of 1244 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.760 this, the downside of it, they didn't want to have anything to do 1245 01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.960 with it, but they didn't know it was CBDC. So what would be 1246 01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:44.520 the nutshell case that you would give to somebody who's kind of coming into it 1247 01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:47.920 cold. Yeah, I mean basically, Central bag digital currencies or CBDCs are 1248 01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:55.000 basically a form of digital money that can be programmed, monitored, and censored 1249 01:28:55.439 --> 01:29:00.039 by the government. So basically, you know the way you'll hear the globalist 1250 01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:04.439 present it is it's all about financial inclusion inconvenience. But in reality, they 1251 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:09.399 will be able to see every transaction you spend. They'll be able to even 1252 01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:13.000 control how you spend money in the first place. So if you've ever had 1253 01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:16.479 a health savings account, a health savings account is basically a debit card that 1254 01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:21.199 you'll get from Visa MasterCard and you can only spend it on certain health related 1255 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:26.920 items. Well imagine that concept except applied to everything you buy. So in 1256 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.920 other words, if you're trying to buy something with this digital cash and the 1257 01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:34.840 thing you're trying to buy isn't already on an approved government list, you can't 1258 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:40.239 buy it. It's also the gateway to other things like social credit systems and 1259 01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:43.000 everything else. So in the future, if your social credit score drops, 1260 01:29:43.039 --> 01:29:46.000 if you say something on social media people don't like, if you use too 1261 01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:50.720 much CO two, based on whatever their guidelines are, they can actually restrict 1262 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:57.800 your usage of cash. If in the future the government decides they need to 1263 01:29:57.800 --> 01:30:00.520 stimulate the economy, they can actually say this. And I've seen this in 1264 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:04.720 the EU and some of the language around how they're looking at their CBDC. 1265 01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:10.159 They can literally just say use it or lose it. If you have money 1266 01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:13.159 in your account in the form of CBDCs, if you don't use it by 1267 01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:15.880 such and such a day, we're literally going to remove it from your account. 1268 01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:17.840 Because this is the way that we want to stimulate the economy. It 1269 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:25.039 is complete control over human behavior using digital cash that's controlled by the government, 1270 01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:28.000 and to me, it is the single biggest threat to human liberty, which 1271 01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:30.439 is why I ran for president and it's why I wrote the book. Yes, 1272 01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:32.560 yeah, And of course you know, when we look at it, 1273 01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:36.520 it's it's by knowing everything that you're doing, they can, you know, 1274 01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:41.600 ration things to you like a food, meat and things like that that they 1275 01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:45.680 don't want you to have too much of. It's also it hearkens back the 1276 01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:49.640 beginning of the excerpt that you had in that article that was up on Brownstone. 1277 01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:57.119 The excerpt from your book was it kind of begins with, you know, 1278 01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:00.079 life, and these people are living in this smart city, fifteen minute 1279 01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:05.880 city, something like that, and unfortunately the husband says something that the political 1280 01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:10.319 authorities take exception to, and it reminded me very much of what we always 1281 01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:14.880 would hear about stalinism. You know, they control your job and therefore your 1282 01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:18.399 money, but they also owned your house, so you didn't know you couldn't 1283 01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:23.479 work except with their approval, and they were the ones who were providing you 1284 01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:25.880 with a home. So if the political authorities didn't like that, you were 1285 01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:29.319 homeless and you were penniless, and you were out on the street. But 1286 01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:34.640 this is far worse than that because they have so much more visibility as to 1287 01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:39.079 what you're doing. And when we talk about the fifteen minute city issue, 1288 01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:43.680 that's another aspect of the CBDC. They can you determine where you can spend 1289 01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:46.279 that money, so maybe you couldn't spend that money out of outside of your 1290 01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:51.159 little fifteen minute area or maybe the larger smart city that they have put you 1291 01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:56.359 in. You can't go to another place and have anything to live off of 1292 01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.119 when you go there. So it's about the kind of control that people have 1293 01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:05.359 only theorized about in dystopian science fiction models. But it is that and more. 1294 01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:10.319 It is really a horrific thing. Well it's that more. And actually 1295 01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:14.119 if you look at the UN seventeen Sustainable Development Goals, you can actually get 1296 01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:15.800 a sense what I did is just an exercise, as I said, okay, 1297 01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:18.520 well, let's look at all these seventeen sustainable development goals. If you 1298 01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:23.399 were going to turn that into a social credit score, what would you measure 1299 01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:27.439 and what types of incentives and penalties would you put in place? And how 1300 01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:30.960 would you tie that into a tracking system and into CBDC. When you go 1301 01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.800 through that exercise, what comes out of the end is something that looks a 1302 01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:39.600 lot like what already exists in China today. I think one of the big 1303 01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:43.399 issues with this and my big urgency on this again the reason I've been a 1304 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:46.680 serial entrepreneur and a political activist for a long time, I dropped everything to 1305 01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:53.000 focus on this because really two things. One, I saw the person who 1306 01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:58.960 introduced me to bitcoin in twenty twelve is now spending eight years in federal prison 1307 01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:02.359 or the act of selling bitcoin. Another friend of mine who started a company 1308 01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:06.880 called Library or Odyssey you may know it. It's a platform or content, 1309 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:14.000 he was targeted by the SEC and basically put out a business because he was 1310 01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:17.119 using the blockchain technology and was using tokens. And so I started to see 1311 01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:25.199 that not only was the government is cracking down big time on decentralized cryptocurrency, 1312 01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:28.119 and I wanted to look at well, why are they doing this, because 1313 01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:33.319 my friends who are suffering through this, we weren't doing legal activities. They 1314 01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:39.319 were actually very much hardcore liberty activists that were just engaging in voluntary activity. 1315 01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:44.399 And then when I studied how far cbdc's had gotten, then I saw, 1316 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:48.000 well, wow, the alarm bells went off because as of today, there 1317 01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:54.960 are one point three billion registered CBDC accounts globally. People are not aware of 1318 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:59.880 this. China, Yeah, go ahead, China. China has deployed CBDC 1319 01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:02.840 these they're gradually they started out with two hundred and sixty five million accounts. 1320 01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:05.560 They're rolling it out to the rest of the country. There are eleven other 1321 01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:11.800 countries that have already implemented CBDCs. There are one hundred and thirty countries that 1322 01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:18.000 are at various stages of either exploration or piloting CBDCs. And to put this 1323 01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:24.479 into perspective, bitcoin's been around for fifteen years and there are multiple different types 1324 01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:29.600 of crypto. There are five hundred and eighty million people globally using decentralized crypto. 1325 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:33.399 There are one point three billion CBDC accounts, So the growth rate on 1326 01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:38.640 This is phenomenal. And of course it's forced, so it's a little bit 1327 01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:44.359 different than you know, whatever voluntary adoption might be. But it's eclipsed crypto. 1328 01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:47.119 And the more alarming part, and I actually wrote an article that's on 1329 01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:55.760 zero Hedge about this, is the United States has completed three successful CBDC pilots 1330 01:34:56.359 --> 01:35:00.720 and this does not hit the mainstream news. And if you ever hear fedchair 1331 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:04.319 Palell talk about CBDC, he does one of these, well, you know, 1332 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:08.800 we don't even know if we're going to consider it seriously, you know, 1333 01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:12.159 we're it's it's still at the discussion stage. The reality is they've done 1334 01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:17.720 three successful pilots. The first pilot is called Project Hamilton, and it was 1335 01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:24.239 done as a joint venture between the MIT Media Lab and the Federal Reserve of 1336 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:28.920 Boston. And this is basically what would replace cash. This is basically what 1337 01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:33.079 you know, that's the substitute. And in their pilot that they did from 1338 01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:38.000 twenty twenty to twenty twenty two, they got the technology to work and it 1339 01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:42.159 can handle one point seven million transactions per second. So to put that in 1340 01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:45.439 perspective, the current financial system does between fifteen and one hundred thousand transactions per 1341 01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:53.039 second. So they've developed a CBDC that is more than ten times the capacity 1342 01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:56.520 of the existing financial system. And in the conclusion what they said is, 1343 01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:00.520 well, the technology works, but we need to figure out the legality and 1344 01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:04.680 how to market it, which to me says they're waiting for a crisis to 1345 01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:08.359 put it to work, but people aren't aware of that. Now this gets 1346 01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:15.039 even worse because this MIT Multimedia Lab, the chair of the MIT Multi Media 1347 01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:18.800 Lab is it was a guy named by the name of joy Eto, who 1348 01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:27.279 famously received funding from Jeffrey Epstein and visited Epstein's island a couple of times. 1349 01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:30.479 And the article that I wrote about this goes into some I've uncovered some things 1350 01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:34.720 that were really astonishing and not to go into too much. I don't know 1351 01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:40.079 how much technical detail your audience is used to on crypto or getting into any 1352 01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:43.359 specifics. Yeah, go into the specifics and go into the details. They 1353 01:36:43.359 --> 01:36:47.199 can handle it. I'll say this, so you know, I've got involved 1354 01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:50.399 in bitcoin in twenty twelve and I've been using it. In fact, in 1355 01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:55.399 New Hampshire there are stores and restaurants where you can actually use or could use 1356 01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:59.760 up until about twenty seventeen, you could actually use bitcoin to buy and sell 1357 01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:02.399 things in the state in Hampshire. Something happened in twenty seventeen where there was 1358 01:37:02.439 --> 01:37:10.199 a big split in the bitcoin world and the white paper for Bitcoin it says 1359 01:37:10.199 --> 01:37:13.560 in the first sense that it's supposed to be used for peer to peer digital 1360 01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:16.199 cash. It's supposed to be used for people as a means of exchange, 1361 01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:20.319 means of basically, it's a currency, And all of a sudden in twenty 1362 01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:27.439 seventeen, the narrative shifted from bitcoin being about digital cash to it being about 1363 01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:31.239 digital gold. Now it's something that you hold to preserve your value. It's 1364 01:37:31.239 --> 01:37:35.520 something like gold. You don't use gold typically today for day to day transactions, 1365 01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:41.079 but you use it to preserve your wealth as the dollar keeps on losing 1366 01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:45.000 its value as we keep on printing more money. Well, it turns out 1367 01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:49.960 that the developer, one of the main developers who is involved in making this 1368 01:37:50.079 --> 01:37:59.319 technical change switching bitcoin from cash to gold, was also one of the authors 1369 01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:03.800 of the white paper for Project Hamilton, the CBDC and his the funding came 1370 01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:10.079 from this joy Eto guy from MIT Multimedia Lab, and I found that I 1371 01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:13.960 found an article the only article about this where Epstein was interviewed, where he 1372 01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:18.359 talked in twenty seventeen while all this was happening about how he liked bitcoin but 1373 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:23.079 didn't think it was a currency but instead thought it was a store of value 1374 01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:28.479 or digital gold. So we have a situation here where this MIT Multimedia Lab 1375 01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:32.600 with funding ties to Epstein and Gates because Gates was actually funneling money into the 1376 01:38:32.680 --> 01:38:39.199 MIT multi Media Lab through Epstein. So it's like it's real incestuous. Wow 1377 01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:46.840 was involved in both developing the CBDC pilot and I would argue hobbling bitcoin at 1378 01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:51.159 the same time, And there's one common developer that was involved in both of 1379 01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:57.319 those tasks. Wow. So there's that. There was another CBDC pilot called 1380 01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:04.039 Project Seater, which is a wholesale CBDC pilot, So it's basically banks communicating 1381 01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:12.560 with one another for larger volume transactions and doing cross border transactions which are very 1382 01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:16.479 expensive and cumbersome. Now, how does that fit in with fed now, 1383 01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:21.239 which is what fed now is sold as a hostel thing? Is that was 1384 01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:27.279 that a priminary to fed now and Project now that actually that was launched after 1385 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:31.239 fed now, So fed now is technically not a CBDC FED now is an 1386 01:39:31.239 --> 01:39:39.520 infrastructure. It's it's a it's basically a makes real time settlement possible between banks 1387 01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:43.680 in the United States, So the focus of it is domestic. This project 1388 01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:49.039 CEDAR is about programmable money that is cross border. And then there's an even 1389 01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:55.079 more dystopian pilot called Regulated Liability Network. And you know, I find with 1390 01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:58.960 these things, if they give it a really boring name, then there's probably 1391 01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:03.720 some real various agenda behind it, because it took me several times to read 1392 01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:08.119 the white paper on this thing to fully understand what it is. And the 1393 01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:15.079 idea behind Regulated Liability Network is a one database basically to track all CBDCs and 1394 01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:24.439 non CBDC transactions. It's basically like an uber database that tracks everything, whether 1395 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:30.039 it's cbdc's from one country to another, or it even contemplates, you know, 1396 01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:33.920 bitcoin. And what is really frightening is the idea of tokenizing everything. 1397 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:39.600 So this is a big movement right now, and you'll see Blackstone talking about 1398 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:43.039 it real world assets and everything else. But basically we're moving to a model 1399 01:40:43.039 --> 01:40:46.279 where people are tokenizing everything, tokenizing stocks. This computer that I have in 1400 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:50.760 the future could be tokenized every asset you have could have a digital token associated 1401 01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:55.880 with it, and through this regulated liability network, you're going to be able 1402 01:40:55.880 --> 01:41:05.680 to have multiple regulatory agencies monitoring sent and tracking transactions across different blockchains and CBDCs 1403 01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:09.760 as well as these digital tokens. So in the future, Wow, not 1404 01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:11.840 only could they shut off your money, but if I go to the store 1405 01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:15.640 and I buy a new Apple computer and it is associated with a digital token, 1406 01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:19.479 if the government decides my social credit score drops or they don't like what 1407 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:21.800 I say on social media, they can not only shut off my money, 1408 01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:28.359 they can shut off access to my computer or and my ability to even sell 1409 01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:33.199 the computer. So it's like it's the next level dystopian infrastructure that they're putting 1410 01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:38.199 in place. Those three pilots, all three of them have one commonality, 1411 01:41:38.239 --> 01:41:43.279 which is funding from the MIT, Multimedia AB Wow Wow, and one network 1412 01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:47.479 to rule them all essentially. And you know there's also funding from DARPA going 1413 01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:53.920 to Microsoft or something I talk about frequently, the Coalition for Content Providence and 1414 01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:59.720 Authentication that is there to quote unquote push against disinformation misinformation. It's there to 1415 01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:02.560 shut now free speech. But what that does is that marks anything that you 1416 01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:08.319 do and it's a coalition of hardware and software manufacturers as well as a coalition 1417 01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:13.840 of gatekeeper media companies that are allied with the government. And so when we 1418 01:42:13.880 --> 01:42:17.079 look at this every aspect of our life, free speech, and any kind 1419 01:42:17.079 --> 01:42:24.920 of commercial transactions, they want to centrally control and be able to shut down 1420 01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:28.119 anything and everything that we do, our speech, our movement, our financial 1421 01:42:28.119 --> 01:42:31.439 transactions, everything. But the CBDC is right at the center of all of 1422 01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:38.840 this. And of course, the Biden administration began what was it March ninth 1423 01:42:38.920 --> 01:42:43.520 or something, twenty twenty two, where he tells everybody in the federal government 1424 01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:48.680 to got four areas that we everybody had. All of the bureaucrats under the 1425 01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:53.880 executive branch, the deep state, they all had one of four areas that 1426 01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:58.479 they need to report back on back to him in six months. It was 1427 01:42:59.119 --> 01:43:00.920 how we going to completely redesign the financial system, how we're going to do 1428 01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:06.079 the software to make this thing work. Law enforcement had one of the different 1429 01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:10.119 branches, how we're going to enforce this and force people to do it. 1430 01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:15.479 And finally they were going to market it with environmental issues, because that's one 1431 01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:19.520 of the tactics that they use against cryptocurrency to say that, you know, 1432 01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:25.760 the crypto mining is too inefficient. But of course these are people keeping dossiers 1433 01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:30.880 on everything and everybody in the world and keeping them at their data centers as 1434 01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:33.840 well as constant surveillance and data mining. So that's kind of a sham. 1435 01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.960 But they're very serious about that, and as soon as they did that, 1436 01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:43.079 they started rolling out fed Now but you believe that this is something that may 1437 01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:46.960 happen even before the election. I think it happened before it could happen before 1438 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:51.159 the election. This is why I'm so passionate about this and trying to get 1439 01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:56.319 the message out. But yeah, Biden passed Executive Order fourteen and zero sixty 1440 01:43:56.319 --> 01:44:00.920 seven, as you just described, which which contemplates both pursuing CBDC and also 1441 01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:06.079 regulating all of the other digital assets, and they've been following through on that. 1442 01:44:06.199 --> 01:44:11.520 There are numerous exchanges that have in fact, most of the exchanges have 1443 01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:15.880 gone under There are numerous tokens and projects that have been targeted by the SEC, 1444 01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:20.159 like my friend who started library, and my have a friend who's in 1445 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:26.960 jail for selling bitcoins. So they've actually been cracking down on bitcoin ATMs, 1446 01:44:27.119 --> 01:44:30.319 your ability to buy and sell. The irs just passed a new thing which 1447 01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:35.039 which says that you know, you have to fill out paperwork for any crypto 1448 01:44:35.199 --> 01:44:39.920 transactions in excess of ten thousand dollars, And of course they did that and 1449 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:45.000 then didn't provide the form, So in other words, there was comply Basically 1450 01:44:45.479 --> 01:44:48.119 there's no way to comply, and so basically you couldn't do. It's essentially 1451 01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:53.479 a way of saying you can't do any transactions north of ten thousand dollars without 1452 01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:58.159 risking criminal penalties and going to jail. So they have been very successful at 1453 01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:03.520 hobbling decentalized crypto and an adoption. And again, these pilots are sitting there, 1454 01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:09.119 and the technology is sitting there waiting to be deployed and fed. Now 1455 01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:14.159 is the infrastructure on top of which they can put a CBDC or I guess 1456 01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:17.039 technically they could. If they wanted to be back handed about it, they 1457 01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:24.279 could. Actually Congress is required in order to put through a new currency, 1458 01:45:24.359 --> 01:45:30.840 but there's nothing that says that the banks can't regulate how the existing currency is 1459 01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:33.840 sent back and forth. So you could get effectively a de facto all of 1460 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:41.079 the negative aspects of a CBDC by regulating the way money is transmitted through the 1461 01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:44.439 fed now system. So I've thought about that as a possibility as well. 1462 01:45:44.720 --> 01:45:48.319 So from my perspective, when I look at again Biden and what he's decided, 1463 01:45:48.399 --> 01:45:50.600 you know, we're going to take military action in the Middle East, 1464 01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:56.760 you can imagine a situation where if there's a terrorist attack on American soil, 1465 01:45:56.840 --> 01:46:02.600 you will get bipartisan support for a CBDC on the basis of stopping money laundering 1466 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:09.279 and terrorism y And as an example for this, the Patriot Act was passed 1467 01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:15.720 forty five days after nine to eleven, PARP was passed eighteen days after Lehman 1468 01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:20.640 Brothers collapsed, and the two point two trillion dollar Cares Act was passed fifteen 1469 01:46:20.720 --> 01:46:27.479 days after COVID was officially declared a pandemic on a voice vote. Many people 1470 01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:30.520 are still in Congress have voted for all three of those things. So the 1471 01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:35.239 idea that they wouldn't usher in CBDCs in an emergency, I think. I 1472 01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:40.640 think there's a high probability that they could bring it in an emergency. And 1473 01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:44.039 from my conversations with Ted Cruz, Cynthia Leomis, and then some of the 1474 01:46:44.039 --> 01:46:48.159 folks in the Warren Davison and others in the House. The votes are simply 1475 01:46:48.199 --> 01:46:51.640 not there before the twenty twenty four election to stop something like this, And 1476 01:46:51.680 --> 01:46:56.279 again, if it's done on an emergency, it'll probably get bipartisan support. 1477 01:46:56.640 --> 01:47:00.439 Wow, that is amazing. And of course an emergency could also include some 1478 01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:02.439 kind of a financial emergency. That's what many people have been talking about, 1479 01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:05.439 and I'm sure you kind of war gamed that out as well. Do you 1480 01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:10.600 see this possibly happening with some kind of a financial emergency, because they certainly 1481 01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:15.279 have created their conditions for a financial emergency, just like they've created conditions ripe 1482 01:47:15.359 --> 01:47:20.000 for World War three or a terrorist attack. Well, yeah, my opinion 1483 01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:24.479 is that what we're seeing as an actual, intentional, controlled demolition of the 1484 01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:30.640 existing financial system, because it's the typical problem reaction solution model. They create 1485 01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:33.000 the problem, they try to generate a reaction, which is usually fear, 1486 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:36.600 and then they already have the solution waiting in the winnings. So they already 1487 01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:41.399 know they want to implement CBDC, they've already developed the technology, and clearly 1488 01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:45.840 the world is going in that direction, and so a financial crisis if you 1489 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:50.039 look at it, So the dollar has gone from being backed by gold to 1490 01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:56.600 banks being required to hold at least ten percent of customer deposits and reserves. 1491 01:47:56.680 --> 01:48:00.800 We have a fractional reserve banking system that was a eliminated under COVID, so 1492 01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:06.159 banks are no longer required to have ten percent of customer deposits on reserve, 1493 01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:10.560 which means that, Okay, if you go in to take your money out 1494 01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:14.399 of the bank, where is the bank getting the money to be able to 1495 01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:16.960 satisfy your withdrawal request? While they're getting it from a principle and interest on 1496 01:48:17.039 --> 01:48:23.079 what commercial real estate which is failing, residential real estate which is struggling, 1497 01:48:23.159 --> 01:48:29.079 consumer debt, student loans which were just restarted recently, and forty six percent 1498 01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:32.199 folks said I'm not going to repay my student loans right out of the bat. 1499 01:48:32.279 --> 01:48:35.920 So the bank is already in a situation where they have no reserves and 1500 01:48:36.279 --> 01:48:42.960 basically their source of liquidity is drying up. So I think our banking system 1501 01:48:43.079 --> 01:48:48.399 is an incredibly weak position. And this at a time when Russia announced today 1502 01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:51.079 one of their strategic plans for twenty to twenty four is to get off the 1503 01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:56.079 dollar as soon as possible. The bricks are moving aggressively to get off the 1504 01:48:56.079 --> 01:49:00.560 dollars. So you basically have pressure on the dollar, on fear currency, 1505 01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:04.199 and on the banks for multiple directions in a way that we haven't seen in 1506 01:49:04.920 --> 01:49:10.800 modern history. So I think that I think that collapse is the baseline scenario, 1507 01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:13.920 and the best thing that we can do is actually to get out of 1508 01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:18.319 the dollar and start using self custody crypto gold and silver in a parallel economy 1509 01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:24.920 to protect ourselves or otherwise we're going to get forced into CBDC. That's how 1510 01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:28.319 we get forced into CBDC. All of a sudden, one day it's oh, 1511 01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:32.159 your fiat currency is now CBDC. I mean that's to be a bank 1512 01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:36.600 holiday, and that's it. Yes, And we have one of our major 1513 01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:42.600 sponsors is Wisewolf Gold and silver. You set up David Knight dot gold and 1514 01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:45.560 whenever I talk about it, Aaron, I say, you know, I 1515 01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:49.119 don't look at gold as really. You know, they can manipulate the price 1516 01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:51.479 of gold, they can manipulate the value of the dollar, and so these 1517 01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:55.880 things are constantly fluctuating and fluctuating for their advantage, and you try to time 1518 01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:58.039 this, you're going to get burned. I said, no, I look 1519 01:49:58.039 --> 01:50:03.439 at it as as the because of CBDC and I look at it and you're 1520 01:50:03.439 --> 01:50:08.439 talking about you know, crypto gold and silver, it really is necessary. 1521 01:50:08.520 --> 01:50:11.720 You talked about the fragility of the banking system. Commercial real estate that you 1522 01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:17.720 pointed out that is heavily, heavily impacting the small and medium sized banks. 1523 01:50:18.279 --> 01:50:24.079 And they're already shaky because of the rapid escalation of interest rates that left them 1524 01:50:24.199 --> 01:50:28.119 trapped with T bills and things like that, as we saw several bank failures. 1525 01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:30.399 So the entire banking industry, except for the really big guys that are 1526 01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:32.560 going to be too big to fail, they're going to be partnering with the 1527 01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:36.680 Federal Reserve and they will make sure that they that Jamie Diamond and these people 1528 01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:41.960 continue and there so, but the rest of the banking industry is incredibly fragile 1529 01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:46.079 at this point because of these this volatility and the interest rates that caught them 1530 01:50:46.119 --> 01:50:50.239 out, and because of the commercial real estate stuff that again hearkens back to 1531 01:50:51.079 --> 01:50:58.119 COVID. Let's talk a little bit about Nigeria, because of all the countries 1532 01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:01.760 that tried this stuff, Nigeria was one where they did an early experiment. 1533 01:51:02.680 --> 01:51:09.359 People didn't like it. What can we learn from that experiment and what did 1534 01:51:09.399 --> 01:51:13.159 they learn from that experiment, because I'm sure that they have fine tuned the 1535 01:51:13.159 --> 01:51:16.000 way that they'll impose it on us after what they saw with Nigeria. So 1536 01:51:16.199 --> 01:51:19.880 what are your comments about Nigeria. Well, Nigeria is an interesting case. 1537 01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:25.880 I actually talked to several people on a Twitter space from Nigeria about this as 1538 01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:29.039 it was going on. One of the things that you'll find and one of 1539 01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:30.920 the things I talk about in the book is that there really is a push 1540 01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:36.439 here towards one world global government, and there are specific organizations involved in pushing 1541 01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:42.600 this, specifically things like CBDCs, and those organizations include the WF, the 1542 01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:46.159 UN, the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank. And in the 1543 01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:51.880 case of Nigeria, Nigeria is one of these examples where nobody in the country 1544 01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:58.399 wanted a CBDC, nobody was asking for a CBDC. The CBDC was pushed 1545 01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:03.680 on them by the World Bank and the IMF with strings, as those organizations 1546 01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:10.000 often do as they go in and help destroy property rights and destroy countries for 1547 01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:15.399 purpose of enforcing their own standards and their own will. So Nigeria was not 1548 01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:20.319 set up from a technological perspective to have CBDCs, So just from a basic 1549 01:52:20.399 --> 01:52:25.399 perspective, so it's not it doesn't really apply as much here because obviously most 1550 01:52:25.439 --> 01:52:30.119 people here are using online banking or have cell phones or whatever. I mean, 1551 01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:33.720 we're already from a technical standpoint able to handle the actual adoption of it. 1552 01:52:33.760 --> 01:52:38.600 But in Nigeria, they literally didn't have the technical infrastructure, and so 1553 01:52:38.680 --> 01:52:43.000 people were going to ATMs and all of a sudden who couldn't pull out cash, 1554 01:52:43.119 --> 01:52:45.720 and you had fires and rioting and everything else, and so it really 1555 01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:49.800 I think in that particular instance, came down to this was a country where 1556 01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:56.720 they weren't technology technologically enabled for it, and they handled the marketing and the 1557 01:52:56.840 --> 01:53:00.760 rollout of it in a horrible way. And if I call correctly, I 1558 01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:04.479 think they're ahead of their central bank is in prison right now. Because there 1559 01:53:04.520 --> 01:53:12.359 are also claims of corruption involving a whole variety of different issues, and so 1560 01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:18.720 I don't know that we can take much from the Nigerian experiment and apply it 1561 01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:23.279 here. And because there are one point three billion people on the planet that 1562 01:53:23.319 --> 01:53:26.720 now have CBDC accounts, a lot of the arguments are a lot of the 1563 01:53:26.720 --> 01:53:29.640 complacency as well. Yeah, maybe they've done it in some of these smaller 1564 01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:30.920 countries, but they can't do it here. Well, no, if they 1565 01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:34.600 can do it in China, then from a technological perspective, they can do 1566 01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:39.880 it here. And again the tech, the tech already exists. So if 1567 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:44.239 people were willing to take vaccines for a donut or you know, a medium 1568 01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:48.520 or French fries, then then they'll they'll use the carrot. They'll use the 1569 01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:53.119 carrot and the stick or the stick. It depends on the situation. So 1570 01:53:53.159 --> 01:53:57.039 either we're going to have some fear based event and it'll be pushed in to 1571 01:53:57.159 --> 01:54:00.520 keep everybody safe, or they'll try to make it one of the things where 1572 01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:03.760 I'll get one point three digital dollars for every one dollar you have in your 1573 01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:08.880 bank account, and most people, if they're unaware of what's going on behind 1574 01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:12.520 the scenes, will actually take it because it seems like a good deal at 1575 01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:16.680 the time, and all of their marketing is about convenience and financial inclusion. 1576 01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:19.800 These are their buzzwords. I'm going to do another article that talks about the 1577 01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:25.479 double speak and it provides a guidebook to what these terms mean when these people 1578 01:54:25.520 --> 01:54:28.560 are pushing this out, Because the biggest one you're going to hear We heard 1579 01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:30.920 it at Dabbos again a couple of weeks ago. You hear it at the 1580 01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:34.039 UN It's financial inclusion. This is all about financial inclusion. That's how they 1581 01:54:34.079 --> 01:54:39.720 try to market it, and it couldn't be anything further from the truth. 1582 01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:43.600 Yeah, they want to exclude you from everything because you're not going to be 1583 01:54:43.640 --> 01:54:45.560 a stakeholder. They're going to be the people that have all the stakes that 1584 01:54:45.600 --> 01:54:48.199 they're holding all the stakes on us. Yeah, that's the type of thing 1585 01:54:48.239 --> 01:54:53.920 that Gates worked with India on with the Adhar system, and he came in 1586 01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:56.359 saying, you know what, these people are just not included in society. 1587 01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:59.520 They need to have an ID. It's like, oh, I didn't realize 1588 01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:02.600 that was what was missing from my life. So new government I d And 1589 01:55:02.920 --> 01:55:06.800 so they incentivized it with the poor people, saying if you take the number 1590 01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:11.560 of the government, the number of the beast you're going to get. You 1591 01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:14.760 can get some welfare, you can get healthcare and that type of thing. 1592 01:55:14.920 --> 01:55:17.960 And we've seen this Aaron with World Coin. You know, Sam Altman is 1593 01:55:17.960 --> 01:55:21.159 out there saying, well, you know, you let us scan your eyeball 1594 01:55:21.239 --> 01:55:25.600 or whatever, we'll give you some free world coin, you know, and 1595 01:55:25.680 --> 01:55:29.479 so I think there'll be a stage. And when I look at Nigeria, 1596 01:55:29.560 --> 01:55:32.039 maybe they tried to roll it out slowly, kind of incentivize that. They 1597 01:55:32.119 --> 01:55:34.039 go, well, maybe we've got some poor people here, we can offer 1598 01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:38.920 them something, and you know it, do it that way, but people 1599 01:55:38.960 --> 01:55:43.319 didn't really want it. So then the when the bribery doesn't work, they 1600 01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:46.159 come out with the bands and the blunt instruments and start beating you, you 1601 01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:50.960 know, into coercion. And and that's I think really where the emergency scenario 1602 01:55:51.199 --> 01:55:55.680 that you talked about. I think people are going to rapidly catch on to 1603 01:55:55.720 --> 01:55:59.239 what this is about unless there is an emergency. And as you point it 1604 01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:02.560 out, when there's an urgency, everybody's brain just shuts off because of the 1605 01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:10.880 fear, and they're grasping for anything, no matter how obviously dangerous and risky 1606 01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:14.119 it is. They will a little grab for that, you know, because 1607 01:56:14.119 --> 01:56:16.319 this is not even something is going to directly affect their health like a vaccine. 1608 01:56:16.319 --> 01:56:20.439 This is something that is a danger to their freedom, a danger to 1609 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:25.000 them politically and legally in the future, and so of course they're not going 1610 01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:28.800 to have as much resistance to it. I don't think as they did taking 1611 01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:31.479 the shot when they were told there was an ergency. And it works every 1612 01:56:31.479 --> 01:56:34.680 time. Fear works every time they and they know it works. And I 1613 01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:38.720 will tell you one of the things that's interesting is I traveled to twenty states 1614 01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:43.760 last year meeting with various groups of people, and I will say eighty percent 1615 01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:47.560 at least had never heard of CBDCs. That's right. So this is not 1616 01:56:48.319 --> 01:56:54.199 a phrase or a concept or a topic that has hit the mainstream at all. 1617 01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:57.199 But I'll tell you something even more alarming, and it's really changed my 1618 01:56:57.279 --> 01:57:00.319 strategy with this. I originally thought early, well, you know, it'll 1619 01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:03.840 be the younger generation that will adopt this because they're more used to technology. 1620 01:57:03.840 --> 01:57:09.720 But I've actually I'm focusing more of my attention on boomers and Gen X for 1621 01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:13.680 a variety of reasons. One that they have all of the wealth. I 1622 01:57:13.680 --> 01:57:16.000 mean, I think boomers have fifty three percent of the of the wealth in 1623 01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:23.800 this country. But they also have some kind of remembrance of privacy or concept 1624 01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:29.920 of privacy and individual rights. What I'm seeing with Gen Z and even millennials 1625 01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:33.279 to a certain degree is a complete disconnect. There's a I think CATO had 1626 01:57:33.319 --> 01:57:41.079 a report out that said something like thirty five percent of Gen Z would be 1627 01:57:41.159 --> 01:57:47.159 okay with the federal government installing security cameras and people's homes to monitor for domestic 1628 01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:55.279 violence. Yeah, and Big Brother and so the idea of privacy. So 1629 01:57:55.439 --> 01:57:57.640 they're going to be more inclined to be like, yeah, well whatever, 1630 01:57:57.680 --> 01:58:00.520 this is more convenient, it's digital. Why wouldn't we we use this. 1631 01:58:00.600 --> 01:58:03.359 So I'm actually focusing my effort more on boomers and Gen X at this point, 1632 01:58:03.399 --> 01:58:06.159 not that you know, eventually we need to get everyone, but the 1633 01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:12.720 barrier is even harder for the younger generations because they don't have an expectation of 1634 01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:17.039 privacy and they don't value they don't value it as much. So think about 1635 01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:18.760 it, you know, and I've mentioned it many times. I thought it 1636 01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:23.279 was very interesting how they and I don't believe it was a coincidence. I 1637 01:58:23.279 --> 01:58:27.039 believe they started all the Big Brother stuff, the reality TV and it was 1638 01:58:27.039 --> 01:58:29.800 put out there when these generations are very young, and a lot of them 1639 01:58:29.880 --> 01:58:31.159 consumed that. And then oh, by the way, now we got social 1640 01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:34.319 media. You can do that. You can be a Big Brother celebrity too. 1641 01:58:34.359 --> 01:58:36.880 You might get a lot of followers, and so it really kind of 1642 01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:43.359 helped to break down those barriers, and people became kind of exhibitionists about their 1643 01:58:43.439 --> 01:58:46.000 private life, and they weren't careful about what they were putting out there publicly, 1644 01:58:46.239 --> 01:58:49.199 and so they don't really care about privacy. They would much rather be 1645 01:58:49.319 --> 01:58:54.359 known by everybody that's out there. They don't get the big picture. You 1646 01:58:54.359 --> 01:58:58.119 know, when DeSantis talked about it, he had about a twenty or thirty 1647 01:58:58.159 --> 01:59:02.920 minute press conference and had the sign up that said Big Brother Digital Money, 1648 01:59:03.479 --> 01:59:08.720 and I was absolutely blown away that. After he gives us presentation talking about 1649 01:59:08.760 --> 01:59:12.079 what we've been talking about and all the downsides of how it could be used 1650 01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:15.479 and abused against people, the first question was, yeah, but what about 1651 01:59:15.560 --> 01:59:17.319 President Trump and Alvin Bragg in Manhattan? You know what's going on with that 1652 01:59:17.399 --> 01:59:21.479 trial. And it's like total mind sequitor about that. And so everybody is 1653 01:59:21.520 --> 01:59:26.399 caught up in the in the in the theatrics of politics and everything, and 1654 01:59:26.840 --> 01:59:29.600 you know, nobody there the press was really interested. Maybe they were, 1655 01:59:30.520 --> 01:59:32.159 and maybe that was a millennial who was asking the questions like Big Brother, 1656 01:59:32.159 --> 01:59:34.880 Who cares? I love Big Brother? That's one of my favorite TV shows. 1657 01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:41.600 You know, it's like there's this total disconnect from reality, total disconnect 1658 01:59:41.600 --> 01:59:45.560 to all these existential issues that are popping up very quickly. And even if 1659 01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:49.319 they had debates, as you pointed out, the debates that the same questions 1660 01:59:49.359 --> 01:59:54.680 are being asked that were asked thirty forty years ago, and they're not really 1661 01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:58.560 relevant today, but they control everything, and then they at this time around, 1662 01:59:58.600 --> 02:00:01.880 they've even shut down the debates to shut down essentially the presidential primaries. 1663 02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:10.199 Talk a little bit about you said that Ramaswami read your book and pass it 1664 02:00:10.239 --> 02:00:13.199 on to Trump. Now, you know, when I saw Trump make the 1665 02:00:13.199 --> 02:00:16.039 announcement, he just mentioned Central Bank digital currency and our reaction to it. 1666 02:00:16.079 --> 02:00:18.119 And one of the listeners said, so, I guess he got a hold 1667 02:00:18.159 --> 02:00:21.520 of some of those analytics out there that said that some people are aware of 1668 02:00:21.520 --> 02:00:26.960 this and he needs to talk about it. But maybe it was Ramaswami whispering 1669 02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:31.079 into his ear. But I don't really, you know, I don't trust 1670 02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:33.840 the fact that he's going to do anything about it, because it was in 1671 02:00:33.880 --> 02:00:42.079 his administration that Steve Manucha and Treasury Secretary and Jared Kushner were talking about CBDC 1672 02:00:42.439 --> 02:00:44.960 and what they could do to afford it. So I think this is a 1673 02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:48.039 bipartisan thing. As you've pointed out, not very many people in Congress have 1674 02:00:48.079 --> 02:00:51.439 any concern about this, even if they know what it is, and this 1675 02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:55.319 might be something that they may talk about, but you know, can we 1676 02:00:55.359 --> 02:00:57.640 really trust any of these guys do anything about it? And as you point 1677 02:00:57.720 --> 02:01:00.960 out, they could very easily roll this stuff in before we even have an 1678 02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:04.479 election. Yeah. So rum Swami did bring it up to Trump, and 1679 02:01:04.520 --> 02:01:10.159 in fact, Trump gave him credit for it. Trump explicitly gave gave Viba 1680 02:01:10.399 --> 02:01:14.039 credit for pushing him on the CBDC issue. Do I believe him? No? 1681 02:01:14.159 --> 02:01:16.199 I know, you know, I was arguing with somebody saying, well, 1682 02:01:16.600 --> 02:01:19.680 didn't repeal Obamacare. We could go through the building the wall and have 1683 02:01:19.720 --> 02:01:23.520 back to We're not going to go through all the laundry lists. But am 1684 02:01:23.560 --> 02:01:26.760 I going to rest safe and sound thinking that he's not going to do this. 1685 02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:30.119 One of the things that I have found that Trump does is he'll make 1686 02:01:30.279 --> 02:01:33.359 a promise and then he'll go back on it, but then he'll claim it's 1687 02:01:33.359 --> 02:01:38.199 because he's really good at doing deals and this is how you get good deals 1688 02:01:38.199 --> 02:01:41.600 done, and then and then his followers will just accept that he never gets 1689 02:01:41.600 --> 02:01:44.880 any accountability because of that. Somehow he has this, he's been able to 1690 02:01:44.960 --> 02:01:46.960 use this device of being the you know, the art of the deal. 1691 02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:51.119 He's been able to craft that into a kind of a scapegoat for not following 1692 02:01:51.119 --> 02:01:55.760 through on on principle. But more importantly, and this is one of the 1693 02:01:55.760 --> 02:02:00.000 areas that you know, by Beck and I disagreed on a little bit, 1694 02:02:00.119 --> 02:02:02.560 which is I actually put out a candidate pledge and the pledge was, yes, 1695 02:02:02.600 --> 02:02:05.800 if elected, I will veto and do everything in my power to stop 1696 02:02:05.800 --> 02:02:10.199 at CBDC. But there's a second part to the pledge that says, if 1697 02:02:10.239 --> 02:02:14.920 they try to implement it before the twenty twenty four election, I will do 1698 02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:18.359 my best to promote the idea to the American citizens directly that they should move 1699 02:02:18.439 --> 02:02:23.600 into self custody crypto gold and silver as a way to stop it before the 1700 02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:28.800 election. And that's the I actually that was a sticking point with me and 1701 02:02:28.960 --> 02:02:30.760 Viveik. I was actually trying to get him to sign that pledge. And 1702 02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:35.560 this is the bigger point. So is Trump you know, is he on 1703 02:02:35.600 --> 02:02:40.039 this issue because of the analytics, because it's something that it looks like he 1704 02:02:40.079 --> 02:02:43.960 needs to he needs to actually say in order to get elected, or is 1705 02:02:43.960 --> 02:02:46.159 he really going to be willing to even before the election if they try to 1706 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:53.600 put it in use his his megaphone to encourage people to take direct action to 1707 02:02:53.600 --> 02:02:57.039 stop it. I do not believe he will do that. I think we 1708 02:02:57.119 --> 02:02:59.960 sure have to. We need to talk before we run out of time about 1709 02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:01.960 self custody on some of these things. And as you point out, you've 1710 02:03:01.960 --> 02:03:08.399 gotten completely out of cash just real quickly. Though. It would be interesting. 1711 02:03:08.720 --> 02:03:13.319 Did you have any discussions with anybody any other candidates besides Ramaswami that we're 1712 02:03:13.359 --> 02:03:18.079 running, and besides Ted Cruz who has talked about any other politicians that you've 1713 02:03:18.079 --> 02:03:23.880 talked to and what might be their responses. Well, I've got a dozen 1714 02:03:23.960 --> 02:03:26.960 or so state reps in New Hampshire that have signed my pledge. I've talked 1715 02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:30.119 to state reps in different you know, Montana, Texas and a variety of 1716 02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:34.720 different states at the local level, and there's a big push now at the 1717 02:03:34.760 --> 02:03:40.479 state level to try to make gold and silver legal tender at the state level. 1718 02:03:40.560 --> 02:03:44.079 So I've been talking to some of the people involved in that. They're 1719 02:03:44.119 --> 02:03:46.199 working heavily on that here in Tennessee, even trying to get a state bank 1720 02:03:46.239 --> 02:03:50.119 and a state depository, and trying to get the state government to own gold 1721 02:03:50.199 --> 02:03:55.039 in case there is some kind of a financial emergency. Yeah, so there 1722 02:03:55.039 --> 02:03:58.560 are, so there are efforts. I've also I debated, ironically, I 1723 02:03:58.560 --> 02:04:01.279 couldn't get into any Republican debate, but I had multiple debates with various libertarian 1724 02:04:01.319 --> 02:04:05.399 presidential candidates. And so the libertarian presidential candidates, not surprisingly, are all 1725 02:04:05.439 --> 02:04:12.640 against CBDCs, and a couple of them, Mike Timott and Michael Rechtenwald, 1726 02:04:12.640 --> 02:04:16.199 have actually signed my pledge. So if you actually look at it right now, 1727 02:04:16.439 --> 02:04:23.640 RFK Trump, the leading candidates in the race. Everybody but Biden has 1728 02:04:23.760 --> 02:04:28.159 at least stated their anti CBDC. So that's something. But again, to 1729 02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:30.640 me, it's something, but not enough. It's not enough. I know, 1730 02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:34.279 it's more interesting that these people would even just turn their back on it. 1731 02:04:34.319 --> 02:04:36.159 I mean, a pledge is easy enough to sign, and when they 1732 02:04:36.159 --> 02:04:40.000 don't do that, that tells you a great deal about people like Nikki or 1733 02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:43.640 whatever. But let's talk about the self custody and things that we can do 1734 02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:46.680 as individuals, because there really isn't anything that we can do. I think 1735 02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:50.279 that there's not much we can do in Washington. It's difficult to get anything 1736 02:04:50.279 --> 02:04:54.279 done even at the state level. What can we do as individuals? What 1737 02:04:54.359 --> 02:04:57.119 have you done? Well? What I've done? So I got into crypto 1738 02:04:57.159 --> 02:05:01.560 on twenty twelve and twenty nineteen, I exited the dollar completely and moved everything 1739 02:05:01.600 --> 02:05:04.199 into crypto, gold and silver. And in fact, I'd been a political 1740 02:05:04.239 --> 02:05:08.720 activist for a long time. I'd given up on the political process as well, 1741 02:05:08.760 --> 02:05:11.600 so I helped get people elected. I've run for a number of different 1742 02:05:11.640 --> 02:05:13.880 offices, and I'm like, look, this is done. I'm going to 1743 02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:15.920 move into crypto. I'm going to move into this technology and start thinking about 1744 02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:19.680 parallel economies and everything else. And then COVID happened, and a variety of 1745 02:05:19.760 --> 02:05:23.720 other things, and then I saw, well, this isn't just about having 1746 02:05:23.720 --> 02:05:28.640 decentralized alternatives. They're taking perverted forms of this technology and using it to complete 1747 02:05:29.000 --> 02:05:32.680 to create complete tyranny. So there's no coexisting. There's no going and hiding 1748 02:05:32.680 --> 02:05:38.359 in a cabin in the woods. When your opponent wants a one world global 1749 02:05:38.359 --> 02:05:43.359 technocracy where they have control over every aspect of humanity and control the land, 1750 02:05:43.399 --> 02:05:46.239 the air, and the sea, that doesn't coexist with you know, hiding 1751 02:05:46.279 --> 02:05:49.880 out somewhere. So I realized we actually have to confront this head on. 1752 02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:55.800 So you know, I've been using and my book goes into specific details on 1753 02:05:56.079 --> 02:06:00.279 you know, which cryptos to consider wallets and with gold and silver effect. 1754 02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:03.279 This probably won't probably can't see this, or you can kind of see this. 1755 02:06:03.319 --> 02:06:06.319 I'm holding a gold back. I don't know if you've seen these. 1756 02:06:06.520 --> 02:06:12.520 This is this is you know, one one thousandth of an ounce of gold, 1757 02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:15.239 and I've actually I give these to people if I go to a restaurant 1758 02:06:15.359 --> 02:06:18.399 or something, I will typically give these as a tip with some kind of 1759 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:21.960 an explanation so that you know you now have because the one of the big 1760 02:06:21.960 --> 02:06:24.880 concerns about gold as well, how are you going to what are you going 1761 02:06:24.920 --> 02:06:27.880 to do? Go to a grocery store and you know, slice off a 1762 02:06:27.920 --> 02:06:31.159 piece of gold, and so these gold backs are a way of putting gold 1763 02:06:31.279 --> 02:06:35.960 into a into a usable form. I've also used silver, you know, 1764 02:06:36.039 --> 02:06:40.760 even you know you can get silver in one tenth of an ounce increments, 1765 02:06:40.800 --> 02:06:43.840 and so you can use that actually for day to day trade. And again 1766 02:06:43.840 --> 02:06:47.119 I'm in New Hampshire where there's a lot of receptivity to these kinds of things 1767 02:06:47.640 --> 02:06:55.279 with respect to crypto. You know, I recommend I'm not selling or promoted 1768 02:06:55.279 --> 02:07:00.079 by I only recommend cryptos that are based on the Bitcoin White Paper, that 1769 02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:06.399 are decentralized, that don't have a centralized corporate structure, because those cryptos can 1770 02:07:06.479 --> 02:07:13.159 be easily shut down by the government, and in some ways aren't even materially 1771 02:07:13.159 --> 02:07:16.399 different than the existing system. Something like Ethereum is completely centralized in the way 1772 02:07:16.399 --> 02:07:20.960 that it operates. The transactions can be reversed. It doesn't really offer any 1773 02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:26.199 real true innovation with respect to and many people have talked about maybe you know, 1774 02:07:26.199 --> 02:07:29.800 Ethereum might be the substrate in which they build something real quickly to put 1775 02:07:29.960 --> 02:07:32.840 out there on people. Right, I did not realize that the Ethereum transactions 1776 02:07:32.880 --> 02:07:36.920 could be reversed. That's interesting, Well, they can be reversed because because 1777 02:07:36.920 --> 02:07:42.439 now instead of it being this proof of work model where you have computers competing 1778 02:07:42.479 --> 02:07:45.520 to solve math puzzles to see who adds the next block of transactions, these 1779 02:07:45.560 --> 02:07:51.079 are now more controlled by whoever has more coins has a greater say in adding 1780 02:07:51.119 --> 02:07:56.640 the transactions to the next block. So it's kind of like a normal system 1781 02:07:56.680 --> 02:08:01.079 where it's it's controlled by a small, smaller group of elites. It's also 1782 02:08:01.159 --> 02:08:05.960 very expensive to use, and arguably it could be in illegal security. So 1783 02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:09.359 what I'm looking for are specifically, and I want to be clear about this, 1784 02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:15.640 I'm not making investment recommendation advice. I'm talking about the use of cryptocurrency 1785 02:08:15.680 --> 02:08:18.920 as cash, as a replacement for cash, which is different than as a 1786 02:08:18.960 --> 02:08:24.680 speculative investment. So Bitcoin, which I mentioned, went through this thing in 1787 02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:30.199 twenty seventeen where there were some technological changes made to it made it unusable really 1788 02:08:30.279 --> 02:08:35.520 as cash. There is a period of time in twenty seventeen you had Expedia, 1789 02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:43.399 Microsoft, Overstock dot Com. You have major companies and websites taking bitcoin 1790 02:08:43.479 --> 02:08:52.920 directly as a payment option. And what happened was because of extra use, 1791 02:08:52.399 --> 02:08:58.000 the transaction fees went up to as high as fifty five dollars. So if 1792 02:08:58.000 --> 02:09:01.560 you're going to spend fifty five dollars and in some cases ten to fourteen days 1793 02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:05.720 to complete a transaction, that made bitcoin unusable is money. Now they had 1794 02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:09.720 an option. They had an option which is they could increase what are called 1795 02:09:09.720 --> 02:09:13.039 the size of the block, so basically make it so that every ten minutes 1796 02:09:13.079 --> 02:09:18.000 you can handle more transactions, which is what basically the Bitcoin White Paper and 1797 02:09:18.000 --> 02:09:20.359 some of the other discussions contemplated, but instead of doing that, they decided 1798 02:09:20.399 --> 02:09:26.000 to implement this completely alternative system, and so bitcoin is not recovered from that 1799 02:09:26.159 --> 02:09:30.520 peak in twenty seventeen where it was being used directly as a payment option. 1800 02:09:30.560 --> 02:09:33.640 They now have this thing called Lightning Network and all of these other things that 1801 02:09:33.680 --> 02:09:37.680 are complicated, hard to use, and have a variety of other issues associated 1802 02:09:37.720 --> 02:09:46.279 with it. So I've found myself using predominantly bitcoin cash, Bitcoin sv raven 1803 02:09:46.319 --> 02:09:50.840 coin, and light Cooin are the main cryptocurrencies that I've been using as cash, 1804 02:09:50.920 --> 02:09:54.760 with bitcoin cash being the one that I've used the most. So bitcoin 1805 02:09:54.800 --> 02:10:00.479 cash actually split off from Bitcoin and has so it's essentially the same as the 1806 02:10:00.479 --> 02:10:05.600 original Bitcoin model, except with larger transaction capacity. So that's what I've been 1807 02:10:05.720 --> 02:10:07.640 using. And what you can do is there are certain stores where you can 1808 02:10:07.720 --> 02:10:11.520 use bitcoin cash directly, and you can also convert bitcoin cash to a debit 1809 02:10:11.560 --> 02:10:16.800 card if you need to and use that to make transactions. And then there 1810 02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:22.680 are services like BitPay where you can actually pay in certain cases, your mortgage 1811 02:10:22.760 --> 02:10:28.279 or other bills directly using crypto through a third party application like BitPay, and 1812 02:10:28.319 --> 02:10:31.800 so I outline all of this in my book in terms of how you can 1813 02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:37.680 actually acquire these cryptos and actually use them for day to day transactions to pay 1814 02:10:37.720 --> 02:10:41.600 your bills. And do you address having an offline wallet and that type of 1815 02:10:41.600 --> 02:10:43.520 thing, because that's the other way that they can shut this stuff down, 1816 02:10:43.560 --> 02:10:48.199 of course, shutting down the Internet and shutting down these online transactions. And 1817 02:10:48.239 --> 02:10:50.720 that's one aspect of this as a boomer who's not gotten involved in this, 1818 02:10:50.800 --> 02:10:54.960 that I don't understand, and that is the wallet offline. Is that something 1819 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:58.640 that you use. Is that something you talk about in your book? Well, 1820 02:10:58.680 --> 02:11:03.000 one thing I I didn't mention it, so I stressed self custody. 1821 02:11:03.039 --> 02:11:05.880 So so one part about this is that you want to get a wallet, 1822 02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:09.000 and you don't want to have it in an exchange like coinbase. You know 1823 02:11:09.079 --> 02:11:13.239 that may be where you need to acquire the crypto, but you want to 1824 02:11:13.239 --> 02:11:18.239 have it on your own device or there are things called hardware wallets or other 1825 02:11:18.279 --> 02:11:24.920 options where you can store your keys and basically have in your own possession your 1826 02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:28.760 cryptocurrency. I mean, you get this question a lot, Well, what 1827 02:11:28.800 --> 02:11:30.800 if the grid goes down? I mean to be honest. With the grid 1828 02:11:30.800 --> 02:11:33.960 goes down, then we're going to be, you know, after ninety days 1829 02:11:33.960 --> 02:11:37.399 in a state of cannibalism. That's not even a joke. So there's a 1830 02:11:37.520 --> 02:11:41.239 So there are other things you can do around that. There are things that 1831 02:11:41.279 --> 02:11:43.520 you can do like creating mesh networks. And there's a whole other, you 1832 02:11:43.520 --> 02:11:52.520 know side to this, which ways of being off grid and creating alternative networks 1833 02:11:52.760 --> 02:11:56.359 to maybe keep some of this stuff going. But this is why I recommend 1834 02:11:56.439 --> 02:12:00.560 crypto, gold and silver. I'm not rev recommending just crypto or gold or 1835 02:12:00.560 --> 02:12:05.239 just silver. I think to predict that any one crypto or any one of 1836 02:12:05.279 --> 02:12:09.239 these things is going to win out at the end of the day would be 1837 02:12:09.359 --> 02:12:11.279 would be foolish. It's good to have kind of a balanced approach. And 1838 02:12:11.359 --> 02:12:13.840 when I do my workshop, at the end, people will have a gold 1839 02:12:13.920 --> 02:12:18.239 back, they'll have silver, and they'll have a self custody crypto wallet with 1840 02:12:18.319 --> 02:12:22.000 some crypto in it, just to get them started with the process. But 1841 02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:24.920 it's something you have to monitor on an ongoing basis. I mean, I'm 1842 02:12:24.039 --> 02:12:31.319 constantly there are more. I saw this Rodney Dangerfield joke. It was I 1843 02:12:31.359 --> 02:12:37.760 went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out, and you know, 1844 02:12:37.039 --> 02:12:39.079 and I feel like, you know, I went to a political debate 1845 02:12:39.119 --> 02:12:43.920 and in a bitcoin folk war broke out. I mean, there's so much 1846 02:12:43.039 --> 02:12:48.199 division and infighting within crypto and it actually it makes it hard for me. 1847 02:12:48.199 --> 02:12:50.720 I'd like to be able to say to somebody, by this crypto and here's 1848 02:12:50.760 --> 02:12:52.199 the solution. I can't. What I can do is I can educate you 1849 02:12:52.239 --> 02:12:56.359 on a variety of options and ways of looking at this and to say you 1850 02:12:56.439 --> 02:12:58.760 need to stay up on it, because I'm staying up on it. It's 1851 02:12:58.880 --> 02:13:03.520 changed so rapidly and it's going to continue to change based on government crackdowns. 1852 02:13:03.680 --> 02:13:09.159 There are lawsuits going on within the bitcoin community. There's one coming up called 1853 02:13:09.159 --> 02:13:13.159 the Copa versus Craig White lawsuit, which has huge implications depending on how that 1854 02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:18.000 how that goes, that will affect bitcoin and the derivatives of it. And 1855 02:13:18.039 --> 02:13:20.680 so there's just a lot to stay on top of it. But I do 1856 02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:24.920 encourage people to, you know, as I outline in the book, get 1857 02:13:24.119 --> 02:13:28.680 some small amount of crypto and put it in self costody and start figuring out 1858 02:13:28.680 --> 02:13:33.439 how it works. There's no substitute for experience and playing around with it well, 1859 02:13:33.439 --> 02:13:37.439 it's good and your book is the Final Countdown Crypto Gold, Silver and 1860 02:13:37.479 --> 02:13:43.560 the People's Last Stand against tyranny by central bank digital currencies. And in that 1861 02:13:43.600 --> 02:13:48.359 you not only lay out a fictional scenario of what it's going to be like 1862 02:13:48.399 --> 02:13:50.439 so people can understand, so they can talk to other people about this, 1863 02:13:50.960 --> 02:13:56.560 but it also you got some practical tips in there as well. And where 1864 02:13:56.560 --> 02:14:01.560 there's some comments their Travis that the people had let me read these comments. 1865 02:14:01.600 --> 02:14:07.159 Who We've got just a little bit of time left here. This is uh, 1866 02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:11.840 this is from Serge the Purge, who has also has a podcast. 1867 02:14:11.039 --> 02:14:13.760 Thank you for the tip, Surge, He says, David, I strongly 1868 02:14:13.800 --> 02:14:18.279 feel this is the wrong mentality with CBDC. I'm twenty four, I'm gen 1869 02:14:18.399 --> 02:14:20.800 Z and my parents are gen X, and most gen xers I've talked to 1870 02:14:20.920 --> 02:14:24.399 think there's nothing to see here. A lot of them think that they're still 1871 02:14:24.439 --> 02:14:28.760 in the eighties. If anything, we must educate people in my age group. 1872 02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:31.960 We're the ones who are going to have to live with us in the 1873 02:14:31.000 --> 02:14:35.079 future. Trump is hope porn. I personally wouldn't even entertain him. In 1874 02:14:35.119 --> 02:14:39.840 the conversation of stopping CBDC, all just talking points, call me back, 1875 02:14:39.000 --> 02:14:43.560 call me blackpilled. But this is such a serious issue. I think rather 1876 02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:46.079 educate on gold and silver and help people my age understand the severity of the 1877 02:14:46.159 --> 02:14:52.439 future through CBDC. Most boomers I've talked to literally told me to my face, 1878 02:14:52.560 --> 02:14:54.680 they'll be gone anyway, you know. I hear that all the time. 1879 02:14:54.800 --> 02:15:01.119 Eron when I talk to people about taking away call you always say take 1880 02:15:01.159 --> 02:15:03.279 away your ability to drive cars, And they said, well, yeah, 1881 02:15:03.279 --> 02:15:05.520 I think that's going to happen, but it's not going to happen in my 1882 02:15:05.560 --> 02:15:09.479 lifetime. And then I would have people at auto shows who are eighteen years 1883 02:15:09.520 --> 02:15:11.079 old who would tell me that, and it's like, and you know, 1884 02:15:11.119 --> 02:15:15.039 we look at this stuff, and we look at how they're cracking down on 1885 02:15:15.079 --> 02:15:20.560 this and the types of narratives that they pushed to us. I think everybody 1886 02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:24.159 needs to be concerned about this. And I think the book that you've got 1887 02:15:24.159 --> 02:15:26.560 there, in the scenario that you've laid out, I think that's very important. 1888 02:15:26.640 --> 02:15:30.199 Again, the Final Countdown. Is that available on Amazon? I guess 1889 02:15:30.640 --> 02:15:35.239 it's available on Amazon, and it's a kindle form, hardback, paperback and 1890 02:15:35.319 --> 02:15:39.880 also audiobook. But to address the question that you've had. I'm not just 1891 02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:45.680 focused on boomers. The book is made to be accessible to everyone. There's 1892 02:15:45.720 --> 02:15:48.640 a very specific reason though that if anything, I'm spending a little bit more 1893 02:15:48.640 --> 02:15:56.119 time. It's this. It's the banking collapse as it is staged right now. 1894 02:15:56.119 --> 02:16:01.239 It's a controlled demolition of the banking system. In order to stop the 1895 02:16:01.319 --> 02:16:05.880 acceleration. We actually need to accelerate the banking system collapse. And the way 1896 02:16:05.920 --> 02:16:07.640 to do that is the boomers have all of the well. So this is 1897 02:16:07.680 --> 02:16:11.000 just a simple math problem of if you're going to try to get people to 1898 02:16:11.039 --> 02:16:16.960 take money out of the system and move it into these alternatives, Boomers and 1899 02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:20.159 Gen X simply have more resources in the bank. It's not a question of 1900 02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:22.039 yeah, millennials and Gen Z and you know, I mean, I have 1901 02:16:22.079 --> 02:16:26.079 thirteen year old twins, and so I certainly I'm not I don't want to 1902 02:16:26.119 --> 02:16:30.239 leave anybody out, but we're in a we're so the material is accessible to 1903 02:16:30.279 --> 02:16:33.440 everyone, but I'm focused on where we can get the biggest, biggest impact. 1904 02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:37.319 And I've talked to a lot of boomers that are actually take the opposite 1905 02:16:37.319 --> 02:16:41.559 of you. They're very concerned about their kids and their grandchildren and they're very 1906 02:16:41.600 --> 02:16:46.559 concerned on the other end about what's going on. And I know, I'm 1907 02:16:46.639 --> 02:16:50.399 gen X. So you see these memes where it's like, you know, 1908 02:16:50.559 --> 02:16:54.600 boomers fighting with with millennials while gen X kind of just sits there and relaxes 1909 02:16:54.639 --> 02:16:58.520 and has a martini while watching it. And I'm not saying that that's what 1910 02:16:58.520 --> 02:17:01.959 it's like. There is more well, and I'll say this too, we 1911 02:17:03.000 --> 02:17:05.239 look at people people who retired. All my life, I've noticed this. 1912 02:17:05.959 --> 02:17:11.280 The people who retired have got more time, and they are not as busy 1913 02:17:11.360 --> 02:17:15.680 with life as the younger generations are, and so many of them will get 1914 02:17:15.719 --> 02:17:20.799 involved very heavily and be very knowledgeable about politics, and as you point out, 1915 02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:24.719 a lot of them are concerned. I think the best of them are 1916 02:17:24.760 --> 02:17:30.239 going to be concerned about future generations. People who are only concerned about themselves, 1917 02:17:30.760 --> 02:17:33.559 they're not going to be a part of the solution in anything. It's 1918 02:17:33.559 --> 02:17:39.280 only going to be the people who are looking after who want to not ruin 1919 02:17:39.319 --> 02:17:43.639 the future for future generations, for their children, for their grandchildren. Especially, 1920 02:17:43.879 --> 02:17:46.280 those are the people who can make the change. As you point out, 1921 02:17:46.280 --> 02:17:50.559 they've got most of the financial assets, they've got time that they can 1922 02:17:50.760 --> 02:17:54.719 get involved in this instead of playing shuffle board or something, and they can 1923 02:17:54.760 --> 02:18:00.440 have a real positive effect for other people. And so I do you see 1924 02:18:00.440 --> 02:18:03.520 that. I do understand and agree with that. And I think you also 1925 02:18:03.559 --> 02:18:07.559 sell your book at your website. Is that correct? Do you want to 1926 02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:11.399 give that to people? Well, my website is Day twenty twenty four dot 1927 02:18:11.399 --> 02:18:15.000 com. That's my old campaign site. It just links to Amazon, you 1928 02:18:15.000 --> 02:18:16.879 know, if you want, if you want to see what I was campaigning 1929 02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:20.600 about. That's it's a good place to go, good centralized resource for that 1930 02:18:22.879 --> 02:18:26.399 very interesting discussion. And we've let it go over a little bit on time 1931 02:18:26.440 --> 02:18:28.760 because it was so interesting. But thank you so much for joining us again, 1932 02:18:28.840 --> 02:18:37.639 folks, Aaron Day. And the book is Final Countdown to CBE Final 1933 02:18:37.639 --> 02:18:43.239 Countdown the Crypto, Gold, Silver and People's Last Stand against Tyranny by CBDCs. 1934 02:18:43.280 --> 02:18:46.479 So that is actually spells it out, so you can find it there 1935 02:18:46.600 --> 02:18:50.920 on on Amazon and of course Aaron Day you can look by author A A. 1936 02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:54.559 R. O. N. Thank you so much, Erin and good 1937 02:18:54.600 --> 02:18:56.879 luck to you. I certainly hope you can get the word out. We 1938 02:18:56.959 --> 02:18:58.799 need to get that word out. It's one of the reasons why we talked 1939 02:18:58.799 --> 02:19:05.680 about the political position on this, and it is important to know who the 1940 02:19:05.680 --> 02:19:11.559 people are that are so dead set against our liberty that they won't even make 1941 02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:16.879 a worthless campaign pledge because that is cheap. That is cheap to just say 1942 02:19:16.959 --> 02:19:18.000 yeah, I agree with you, sure you know, shake your hand, 1943 02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:20.719 oh I absolutely love it, and then go do something else. But the 1944 02:19:20.760 --> 02:19:24.799 people who won't even do that, we need to mark those people. Thank 1945 02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:26.760 you so much, Aaron, appreciate it. Thank you for having me. 1946 02:19:26.799 --> 02:19:45.440 Thank you. The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If 1947 02:19:45.479 --> 02:19:52.479 you've been exposed to logic by listening to The David Knight Show, please do 1948 02:19:52.639 --> 02:20:01.239 your part and try not just spread it. Financial support or we telling others 1949 02:20:01.280 --> 02:20:09.200 about the show causes this dangerous information to spread. Father people have to trust 1950 02:20:09.440 --> 02:20:16.799 me, I mean, trust the science. Well you mask take your vaccine, 1951 02:20:18.559 --> 02:20:28.319 don't ask questions using free speech to free minds. It's the David Knight 1952 02:20:28.399 --> 02:20:43.760 Show, all right, welcome back, and joining us now is Jay Warner 1953 02:20:43.840 --> 02:20:46.440 Wallace. He's been a guest once before. We've talked about his background. 1954 02:20:46.520 --> 02:20:52.799 He is a cold case detective. This is somebody who goes back and investigates 1955 02:20:52.280 --> 02:20:56.440 murder cases things that don't have a statute of limitations, murder cases where perhaps 1956 02:20:56.760 --> 02:21:01.120 all the witnesses have died and he's just going back looking at the physical evidence 1957 02:21:01.159 --> 02:21:05.159 of it. He's now written a book called The Truth and True Crime, 1958 02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:11.000 and I love the tagline here, when investigating death teaches us about the meaning 1959 02:21:11.000 --> 02:21:13.520 of life. It looks like a fantastic book, and so I wanted to 1960 02:21:13.559 --> 02:21:16.600 get him on to talk about that one as well. Thank you for joining 1961 02:21:16.639 --> 02:21:18.680 us their well, thanks for having me. I really appreciate. This is 1962 02:21:18.719 --> 02:21:22.760 my favorite book I've written so far, so I'm glad to talk about it. 1963 02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:24.440 Oh, it looks like a great angle and you know, and something 1964 02:21:24.479 --> 02:21:30.000 that you know really affects all of us, and everybody loves the crime aspect, 1965 02:21:30.159 --> 02:21:33.440 and the things that you glean from it too are really interesting. I 1966 02:21:33.479 --> 02:21:37.000 think, Yeah, I think there's actually some hidden Like I was not a 1967 02:21:37.040 --> 02:21:39.239 Christian through all my career, but to you know, the first eight years 1968 02:21:39.319 --> 02:21:43.040 or so, I was not a believer until I was thirty five. I 1969 02:21:43.120 --> 02:21:48.920 became a believer by examining the Gospels kind of from a forensic perspective. How 1970 02:21:48.959 --> 02:21:52.719 do we know or why would we trust if we tested these people as eyewitnesses. 1971 02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:56.520 Why would we even think number one, that they are written by eyewitnesses 1972 02:21:56.920 --> 02:22:00.440 or even anybody who had access to eyewitnesses. And if you did believe that, 1973 02:22:00.520 --> 02:22:03.079 how would you test them to see if they could pass the test? 1974 02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:07.920 Now, once I was in I started to look at human behavior a little 1975 02:22:07.959 --> 02:22:11.120 bit differently. Right, if you work murders, you are seeing people at 1976 02:22:11.159 --> 02:22:18.200 their rawest point, the point at which all of the kind of bars are 1977 02:22:18.239 --> 02:22:20.079 off. I mean, this is Sadly, when you get to the point 1978 02:22:20.079 --> 02:22:24.840 where you're willing to do something crazy like this, it's probably because you've been 1979 02:22:24.879 --> 02:22:28.719 pushed to a certain limit and your true nature is now going to be revealed, 1980 02:22:28.200 --> 02:22:31.639 and it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature. 1981 02:22:31.680 --> 02:22:33.959 So I wanted to write a book that has talked about like, what are 1982 02:22:35.040 --> 02:22:41.520 these attributes fifteen attributes of human flourishing that I discovered in fifteen separate crime stories, 1983 02:22:41.000 --> 02:22:45.159 and then talk about you know, is that something number one that Yeah, 1984 02:22:45.239 --> 02:22:48.239 secular people, they do studies on this and they confirm that this is 1985 02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:52.559 these are fifteen things that if you simply embrace these fifteen principles you will have 1986 02:22:52.600 --> 02:22:56.719 a better life. But it turns out these are fifteen ancient descriptions of human 1987 02:22:56.799 --> 02:23:01.440 nature from scripture that that people for the most part, think they're discovering them 1988 02:23:01.440 --> 02:23:05.879 in the last three three decades, when in fact, these have been on 1989 02:23:05.920 --> 02:23:07.879 the pages of the New Testament for two thousand years. And so I really 1990 02:23:07.920 --> 02:23:11.719 wanted to do a book where I kind of demonstrated that that's amazing. Yeah, 1991 02:23:11.959 --> 02:23:18.520 it's And why did you do a forensic investigation of Christianity in the first 1992 02:23:18.520 --> 02:23:20.920 place. Well, I was thirty five, so it was probably about nineteen 1993 02:23:22.000 --> 02:23:24.000 ninety five or six, right in that range. It took me about eighteen 1994 02:23:24.040 --> 02:23:28.440 months, I would say, to complete that stuff that I was. I 1995 02:23:28.520 --> 02:23:31.719 was so skeptical and not raised around Christians or anybody really believed in God in 1996 02:23:31.760 --> 02:23:35.239 a way they could articulate. So I didn't have like a leg up like 1997 02:23:35.319 --> 02:23:37.799 somebody who could say, hey, look at this or look at that. 1998 02:23:37.840 --> 02:23:41.520 I had to come at a raw and so I bought my first Bible. 1999 02:23:41.559 --> 02:23:43.719 I was thirty five, and it took me a while to kind of go 2000 02:23:43.799 --> 02:23:48.000 through the Gospels, and I was just tearing them apart from just word usage, 2001 02:23:48.040 --> 02:23:50.479 you know, all the attributes. I wrote about this in a book 2002 02:23:50.520 --> 02:23:54.360 called Cold Case Christianity, and that book just kind of covers that journey. 2003 02:23:56.120 --> 02:23:58.120 But that's something that'll get you to the point where you might believe it's true. 2004 02:23:58.440 --> 02:24:01.840 Look, I think that as a boomer, as somebody who's older, 2005 02:24:03.360 --> 02:24:07.120 I have a high value for whether something is true or not, and there 2006 02:24:07.120 --> 02:24:09.319 are people in my generation would probably agree. But I don't know that that's 2007 02:24:09.440 --> 02:24:13.680 the case for young people gen z and millennials. I think they're not as 2008 02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:18.840 concerned about whether something's true because they've co opted that word. That war doesn't 2009 02:24:18.879 --> 02:24:22.479 mean it's true anymore. It means it's true for me. That's right. 2010 02:24:22.559 --> 02:24:24.719 It's true based on my lived experience, or it's true based on how I 2011 02:24:24.760 --> 02:24:28.120 have applied it to my life. Doesn't mean it's true for them. Now. 2012 02:24:28.159 --> 02:24:31.600 When I use the word true, I'm using it in a more objective 2013 02:24:31.639 --> 02:24:33.879 way. But it's true for all of us, whether we like it or 2014 02:24:33.879 --> 02:24:37.520 not. I think that this generation I'm talking to now is more concerned about 2015 02:24:37.520 --> 02:24:43.280 whether or not it's good because they believe they've been sold by the culture that 2016 02:24:43.440 --> 02:24:48.639 Christianity is the source behind every evil intent, misogyny, racism, homophobia, 2017 02:24:48.680 --> 02:24:54.520 whatever it may be. They are going to attribute to it, to this 2018 02:24:54.680 --> 02:25:00.440 traditional Western culture worldview that we hold as Christians. So I wanted to show 2019 02:25:00.479 --> 02:25:05.159 that, Yeah, but if you didn't believe in Christianity, you're probably already 2020 02:25:05.280 --> 02:25:11.000 employing its teaching if you're flourishing, and the more you detach from his teaching, 2021 02:25:11.120 --> 02:25:15.360 the more you're going to struggle. So I just look, this is 2022 02:25:15.399 --> 02:25:18.559 what we're seeing in culture. And so I wrote a book this time which 2023 02:25:18.600 --> 02:25:22.559 really looks at all of the data. So most of my books I spent 2024 02:25:22.639 --> 02:25:24.920 a lot of time researching. And although this book has about fifty pages in 2025 02:25:24.959 --> 02:25:30.840 the printed edition of footnotes, there are two hundred pages in the pdf file 2026 02:25:30.879 --> 02:25:35.120 you provide online. Why because I want you to see that if I'm making 2027 02:25:35.159 --> 02:25:37.680 this claim, it's supported by the data. But it turns out that that 2028 02:25:37.760 --> 02:25:43.399 data simply supports what was claimed in Scripture two thousand years ago. So it's 2029 02:25:43.399 --> 02:25:46.760 eye opening for me to realize that our human It makes sense though. Think 2030 02:25:46.760 --> 02:25:52.559 about it. If we are designed by a creator God who knows something about 2031 02:25:52.600 --> 02:25:54.920 us, and we are in his image, then it turns out that that 2032 02:25:56.040 --> 02:26:00.440 book we have called scripture called the Bible, ought to describe us the way 2033 02:26:00.479 --> 02:26:03.319 we really are. Yes, And if it does describe us the way we 2034 02:26:03.360 --> 02:26:07.239 really are. You could consider that at least. I was listening to a 2035 02:26:07.319 --> 02:26:13.239 pundit who usually talks about politics recently who's Jewish, and when asked when he 2036 02:26:13.280 --> 02:26:18.120 defends why he's Jewish, he says, well, because it turns out that 2037 02:26:18.159 --> 02:26:22.120 these principles work. M m oh, that's interesting, and he sees that 2038 02:26:22.159 --> 02:26:26.000 as an evidence that the worldview is true. Okay, And by the way, 2039 02:26:26.040 --> 02:26:28.639 that may or may not be an evidence that your worldview is true. 2040 02:26:28.680 --> 02:26:33.319 But it strikes me that if your worldview is true, it ought to describe 2041 02:26:33.319 --> 02:26:35.799 you the way you really are. And so in that sense, it could 2042 02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:41.280 provide you with some insight into your human nature and how you could flourish. 2043 02:26:41.639 --> 02:26:43.399 Yeah, it would be necessary, not necessarily sufficient, but it would be 2044 02:26:43.479 --> 02:26:46.959 necessary for that. Yea's true, right, that's right, exactly right. 2045 02:26:46.040 --> 02:26:52.000 Yeah, what's the most surprising thing that you found out about human nature? 2046 02:26:52.280 --> 02:26:56.399 And investigating this? Well, so every chapter is a crime story, right. 2047 02:26:56.440 --> 02:26:58.920 So in one of these stories, I talk about celebrity and how sometimes 2048 02:27:00.000 --> 02:27:03.920 when you are a local, especially in the gang cultures, if you're somebody 2049 02:27:03.920 --> 02:27:05.399 who's known locally, you can kind of become like a celebrity. In your 2050 02:27:05.440 --> 02:27:07.959 own neighborhood, or at least in your own click or your own gang. 2051 02:27:09.440 --> 02:27:13.879 And I've got one of these stories here to show how detrimental our pursuit of 2052 02:27:13.000 --> 02:27:16.159 celebrity is. And the reason why I wrote that chapter is because I don't 2053 02:27:16.200 --> 02:27:20.719 think it's just it's not just a few of us who are seeking celebrity anymore. 2054 02:27:20.840 --> 02:27:24.040 I mean, there are no gatekeepers. You know this, even think 2055 02:27:24.079 --> 02:27:28.600 about it. We are able not to develop our own personal platforms without a 2056 02:27:28.639 --> 02:27:33.520 gatekeeper at NBC, ABC or CBS that used to be or Salem right, 2057 02:27:33.600 --> 02:27:37.440 whatever the radio station was that used to be the gate cape keepers that kept 2058 02:27:37.440 --> 02:27:41.159 people from becoming a celebrity. Those are gone. So now all of us, 2059 02:27:41.159 --> 02:27:43.719 if we can develop a following, we can make it from zero to 2060 02:27:45.040 --> 02:27:48.879 a million listeners without any support. And that's where I think we have to 2061 02:27:48.879 --> 02:27:56.239 be careful. It turns out that one of the most powerful attributes that we 2062 02:27:56.280 --> 02:28:00.639 could adopt as humans that would change your life. As a matter of fact, 2063 02:28:00.719 --> 02:28:05.360 if you simply embraced this virtue, you will have increased flourishing in every 2064 02:28:05.399 --> 02:28:11.399 single metric that we use to actually measure human flourishing, longevity, mental health, 2065 02:28:11.479 --> 02:28:15.559 physical health, the deepness of your relationships that I will improve your marriage, 2066 02:28:15.559 --> 02:28:18.399 I'll make you a better employer, a better employee, You'll learn at 2067 02:28:18.399 --> 02:28:20.559 a higher level, you'll get better grades, you'll make more money. I 2068 02:28:20.559 --> 02:28:28.440 mean, every way that we measure flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one 2069 02:28:28.600 --> 02:28:33.600 thing. And it's really the opposite of celebrity. It is the attribute we 2070 02:28:33.639 --> 02:28:37.000 know as humility. Now, they've been studying this for about three decades and 2071 02:28:37.040 --> 02:28:41.079 looking at all kinds of studies that are out there that talks about how humble 2072 02:28:41.159 --> 02:28:46.520 people succeed at levels that are far higher than the rest of us, and 2073 02:28:46.559 --> 02:28:50.280 why that might be true. Okay, fine, but it turns out that 2074 02:28:50.440 --> 02:28:52.360 humility is one of those things that I think if I ask people, hey, 2075 02:28:52.399 --> 02:28:56.159 what do you think the one attribute you could adopt that would help you 2076 02:28:56.239 --> 02:28:58.079 in every aspect of your life at a higher level than anything else, I 2077 02:28:58.079 --> 02:29:03.239 don't think many people would come up with humility. But it turns out, 2078 02:29:03.120 --> 02:29:07.479 yeah, it is actually the thing we need to embrace. Now, what's 2079 02:29:07.559 --> 02:29:11.600 interesting about that. Think about every worldview that's out there, none of them 2080 02:29:11.920 --> 02:29:18.079 leverage humility, like the Christian worldview. What I mean is if your theistic 2081 02:29:18.120 --> 02:29:24.040 worldview. Your spiritual worldview encourages you to do these certain things to reach the 2082 02:29:24.159 --> 02:29:28.600 highest level that your spiritual worldview offers. In other words, if it is 2083 02:29:28.639 --> 02:29:31.559 about earning something, it's a transaction between you and God, a transaction between 2084 02:29:31.559 --> 02:29:35.120 you and the universe. There's no way to avoid pride in that kind of 2085 02:29:35.159 --> 02:29:39.000 a system, because at some point you're going to look across the room and 2086 02:29:39.040 --> 02:29:41.559 say, I'm doing better than that. Did. We measure based on our 2087 02:29:41.600 --> 02:29:45.719 achievements, right. And I have a friend who's now no longer with his 2088 02:29:45.840 --> 02:29:48.959 name Mike Adams. Mike and I would travel and do a lot of events 2089 02:29:48.000 --> 02:29:52.360 together, and he used to always tease. Ill writ in this book how 2090 02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:56.840 to Become Humble in ten Easy Steps and How I Made It in eight You 2091 02:29:56.879 --> 02:30:03.559 know, it's like this, there's no way that you can pursue humility without 2092 02:30:03.600 --> 02:30:07.159 at some point doing just the opposite and becoming prideful. So it turns out 2093 02:30:07.159 --> 02:30:13.200 that humility is something you It's an assessment. Spurgeon calls it the proper assessment 2094 02:30:13.239 --> 02:30:18.600 of who we are before a holy God. Now, Christianity leverages this because 2095 02:30:18.639 --> 02:30:22.520 it's the one worldview that says, no, it's not a transaction. There's 2096 02:30:22.520 --> 02:30:24.079 nothing you can do to earn this. As a matter of fact, if 2097 02:30:24.120 --> 02:30:28.360 whatever the highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your worldview is, 2098 02:30:28.600 --> 02:30:31.000 We're going to give it to you. It's a free gift over here. 2099 02:30:31.120 --> 02:30:37.559 Why so that Paul says, no one can boast. It's an antidote to 2100 02:30:37.760 --> 02:30:41.040 pride and celebrity. It's an antidote to look what I did is look what's 2101 02:30:41.079 --> 02:30:46.399 been done for me. This view requires us to begin in humility, because 2102 02:30:46.639 --> 02:30:48.239 to say that, Okay, there is God and it's not me, well, 2103 02:30:48.319 --> 02:30:50.799 it's a very humble position. I'm not the God of my own I'm 2104 02:30:50.799 --> 02:30:56.440 not the center of my own decision making universe. Well, this begins and 2105 02:30:56.600 --> 02:31:00.440 ends in our Savior, says this pulses have the attitude the g his head, 2106 02:31:00.440 --> 02:31:03.360 who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard 2107 02:31:03.399 --> 02:31:07.239 equality with God a thing to be grasped, but instead emptied himself taking the 2108 02:31:07.280 --> 02:31:09.879 form of a bond servant, taking the form. In other words, it's 2109 02:31:11.079 --> 02:31:15.040 all humility start to finish, and as difficult as that is for us to 2110 02:31:15.120 --> 02:31:18.479 achieve, if we don't recognize its power in our lives, will never even 2111 02:31:18.600 --> 02:31:24.200 try to submit will never even begin to let go of the things that possess 2112 02:31:24.360 --> 02:31:28.360 us. So I just want to spend one chapter in these fifteen chapters talking 2113 02:31:28.360 --> 02:31:33.239 about the role that celebrity plays. And by the way, almost every crime 2114 02:31:33.280 --> 02:31:37.159 you're going to every crime you're going to commit, is driven by the different 2115 02:31:37.239 --> 02:31:43.399 chapter. But these three prideful motives, it's the pursuit of money, the 2116 02:31:43.440 --> 02:31:46.120 pursuit of sex, or the pursuit of power. Now, that pursuit of 2117 02:31:46.120 --> 02:31:52.000 power, that's a huge category of misbehavior, and that's where celebrity fits all 2118 02:31:52.079 --> 02:31:56.719 of us. Look, you and I both would we like more people to 2119 02:31:56.799 --> 02:32:00.799 listen to what we're saying. Of course we would, Though we might protect 2120 02:32:00.840 --> 02:32:05.559 ourselves from the pursuit of money and the pursuit of sex with knowing that that 2121 02:32:05.600 --> 02:32:09.840 can derail us. We don't usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity. 2122 02:32:11.559 --> 02:32:15.079 In fact, what we typically do is want to increase that area of our 2123 02:32:15.120 --> 02:32:18.399 life. So we can We'll argue, oh, because I want to reach 2124 02:32:18.520 --> 02:32:22.280 more people with this divine message. Really, so we will increase the celebrity. 2125 02:32:22.319 --> 02:32:24.479 Now, now here's the danger in it, and this is a different 2126 02:32:24.520 --> 02:32:30.079 chapter, But there's a danger in this I have never known anyone of those 2127 02:32:30.159 --> 02:32:33.559 three motives for misbehavior. And there are only three. There's not a fourth 2128 02:32:33.559 --> 02:32:37.719 motive. There isn't Now you can discover this secularly working as a homicide detective, 2129 02:32:39.040 --> 02:32:41.399 or you can discover this on the pages of scripture, because John writes 2130 02:32:41.440 --> 02:32:43.399 about it in one of his letters. But my point is, those are 2131 02:32:43.440 --> 02:32:48.079 only three motives out there for stupid, and if you don't protect yourself from 2132 02:32:48.079 --> 02:32:50.639 those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Here's 2133 02:32:50.639 --> 02:32:54.639 what I've noticed. If you begin to scratch one of those itches, you 2134 02:32:54.680 --> 02:32:58.600 will eventually scratch the other two because the other two become available to you on 2135 02:32:58.639 --> 02:33:03.200 the babe of what you've achieved in the third. So you see this, 2136 02:33:03.600 --> 02:33:07.399 and even Christian leaders right where they fall for someone. Why, well, 2137 02:33:07.559 --> 02:33:11.159 here's why, in my opinion, is because as a congregation, or as 2138 02:33:11.200 --> 02:33:13.760 your deacon board or your elder board, they're trying to protect their pastors from 2139 02:33:13.799 --> 02:33:18.680 the sex and money. But everyone wants their pastor to be known more so 2140 02:33:18.719 --> 02:33:24.399 that they can build a bigger church. And when you increase your celebrity, 2141 02:33:24.440 --> 02:33:30.040 you only open the door to the other two. So this is why I've 2142 02:33:30.079 --> 02:33:33.719 struggled with this even in writing this book, because as I'm writing this book, 2143 02:33:33.760 --> 02:33:35.840 if I'm going to heed my own advice, I have to do less 2144 02:33:35.959 --> 02:33:41.959 of this, because it turns out all of this talking about a book you've 2145 02:33:41.959 --> 02:33:48.479 written is about you trying to amplify your platform, amplify your influence in culture. 2146 02:33:48.559 --> 02:33:50.680 And that's I think there's a good by the way. All three of 2147 02:33:50.719 --> 02:33:56.280 these things have been designed by God for his glory and for our good. 2148 02:33:56.440 --> 02:34:00.159 We just happen to distort them. So sex, money, and power or 2149 02:34:00.239 --> 02:34:03.719 something that God is giving us in a positive way. This is another chapter 2150 02:34:03.760 --> 02:34:07.719 in the book. It's a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless and 2151 02:34:07.239 --> 02:34:11.239 was killed. And I'm thinking, what are these three motives? What did 2152 02:34:11.239 --> 02:34:16.239 this killer have to gain from this homeless guy who was so sweet They called 2153 02:34:16.280 --> 02:34:18.440 him Santa Claus because he looked like Santa Claus and he was as sweet as 2154 02:34:18.520 --> 02:34:22.959 Santa Claus. And what does he offer in terms of sex, money, 2155 02:34:22.040 --> 02:34:26.559 or power that would be worthy of killing him? Well, here's what happens 2156 02:34:26.600 --> 02:34:30.120 is that when we focus on those things that are given to us by God 2157 02:34:30.200 --> 02:34:33.520 instead of on the God who gave him to us, we're stopping one level 2158 02:34:33.559 --> 02:34:37.520 short of our worship, and we all worship, everyone worships, whether you're 2159 02:34:37.559 --> 02:34:41.319 a believer or not, there is something that you think as of utmost importance 2160 02:34:41.360 --> 02:34:46.159 that you dare not take that from me, because that's the thing that I 2161 02:34:46.319 --> 02:34:50.879 covet and this idolatry is what causes us. So in this particular case, 2162 02:34:52.000 --> 02:34:56.959 this poor guy had slipped over. They were he was recycling stuff. Every 2163 02:34:56.040 --> 02:34:58.159 day. He would go out, spend the first half of his day picking 2164 02:34:58.200 --> 02:35:01.799 hup a trash can, going through trash cans and picking up recyclables. Then 2165 02:35:01.799 --> 02:35:05.879 he would take them to the recycling center and get this tough money to go 2166 02:35:05.959 --> 02:35:09.479 and he would buy alcohol and food in the afternoon. And that was his 2167 02:35:09.559 --> 02:35:13.760 day every day, very very workmanlike. And he had slipped into an area 2168 02:35:13.840 --> 02:35:18.959 of our city that another guy who was doing the same thing felt was his 2169 02:35:18.000 --> 02:35:22.440 alley. Don't be picking trash out of those two cans. And although the 2170 02:35:22.520 --> 02:35:26.840 amount of money that Santa Claus probably got from that was what pennies dollars, 2171 02:35:26.879 --> 02:35:31.280 maybe it was enough. So he confronted this guy. He confronted the Santa 2172 02:35:31.280 --> 02:35:35.159 Claus and said, don't be doing that anymore. At a recycling center, 2173 02:35:35.639 --> 02:35:39.559 and Santa Claus kind of just blew him off. Well, it turned out 2174 02:35:39.559 --> 02:35:41.479 in that one moment he had triggered the two of the three things. Number 2175 02:35:41.520 --> 02:35:45.639 One, he had disrespected him, So the idea of power, authority, 2176 02:35:45.680 --> 02:35:48.879 respect, that's in the third category. Now I'm upset because you disrespected me 2177 02:35:48.879 --> 02:35:52.959 in front of my peers. Two you're taking pennies or dollars. But because 2178 02:35:54.040 --> 02:35:58.040 I've turned both of these things, I covet them at a high level. 2179 02:35:58.079 --> 02:36:03.040 I've now turned them into idols. You are not try to destroy my idols. 2180 02:36:03.479 --> 02:36:09.000 And that night he stabbed into death over virtually nothing. This is the 2181 02:36:09.040 --> 02:36:13.920 power of idolatry. And by the way, it's not just people you work 2182 02:36:13.159 --> 02:36:16.959 and working homicides. It's all of us. And so on that chapter. 2183 02:36:18.040 --> 02:36:20.079 What I try to do in every chapter is show you, hey, if 2184 02:36:20.120 --> 02:36:24.479 this is your struggle, whatever these things are, here's a way for you 2185 02:36:24.520 --> 02:36:26.719 to address it. And in this chapter, I just to ask fifteen questions, 2186 02:36:26.719 --> 02:36:30.159 like what you want to know what your idols are? Because we all 2187 02:36:30.200 --> 02:36:33.040 have them. Well, ask these fifteen questions and you probably identify them. 2188 02:36:33.120 --> 02:36:35.799 And then once you've identified him, we can start to actually think, Okay, 2189 02:36:35.799 --> 02:36:39.200 look, it's something that God has created it rather than the God who 2190 02:36:39.239 --> 02:36:43.959 created it. We simply have to transfer our worship up one levels, just 2191 02:36:45.000 --> 02:36:48.879 from the level where we're stopped in God's creation and back to the creator. 2192 02:36:50.559 --> 02:36:52.920 And so it's something that if you do it, you will flourish. Will 2193 02:36:54.319 --> 02:36:58.200 you will not Number one, you'll protect yourself from stupid and number two, 2194 02:36:58.280 --> 02:37:01.479 you'll actually start to pursue the things contribute to a meaningful life. And you 2195 02:37:01.520 --> 02:37:07.159 do that, you do that with thankfulness because when you say you thank God 2196 02:37:07.200 --> 02:37:09.600 for what that is, and sincerely think about what it is that God is 2197 02:37:09.639 --> 02:37:13.319 giving you, you look at it as not something that you've achieved, then 2198 02:37:13.360 --> 02:37:18.239 that does move it to the higher level. And yeah, with that right 2199 02:37:18.280 --> 02:37:22.000 now, I'm I'm skipping across a number of different chapters here, but yeah, 2200 02:37:22.040 --> 02:37:24.360 I think you're right. I think the part of it is is that 2201 02:37:24.360 --> 02:37:26.639 what I've discovered, and it is true of all of us, is the 2202 02:37:26.760 --> 02:37:30.479 least thankful people are the people who think they have nothing to be thankful for, 2203 02:37:30.600 --> 02:37:33.319 or the least forgiving people are the people who think they have nothing to 2204 02:37:33.360 --> 02:37:37.520 be forgiven for. So it does turn out that a proper assessment of who 2205 02:37:37.559 --> 02:37:41.399 you are, because it's really easy for me to think, well, everything 2206 02:37:41.440 --> 02:37:45.399 I've got in my life, I achieved that. Yes, I am the 2207 02:37:45.479 --> 02:37:48.639 reason for all my success, the reason for everything I've ever possessed. Okay, 2208 02:37:50.719 --> 02:37:54.559 if that's your view, well, that kind of pride is it doesn't 2209 02:37:54.639 --> 02:37:58.799 lead any more positive. That's right, because anytime anyone challenges that that might 2210 02:37:58.840 --> 02:38:03.840 not be the case. You're now And so it turns out that that whatever 2211 02:38:03.879 --> 02:38:09.719 it is we've worshiped, that becomes the master, the master that you dare 2212 02:38:09.799 --> 02:38:13.639 not question, the Master that I'm now willing to give up tons of time 2213 02:38:13.719 --> 02:38:18.879 for resources for. I can say that, you know, I had that 2214 02:38:20.040 --> 02:38:22.840 early on when I was young. I had a lot of success with a 2215 02:38:22.840 --> 02:38:26.239 lot of stuff very easily, and I did think it was what I had 2216 02:38:26.280 --> 02:38:30.280 done. And I got to say, it was such an amazing blessing for 2217 02:38:30.319 --> 02:38:33.600 God to take that away from me and humble me, you know, And 2218 02:38:33.639 --> 02:38:37.479 that's exactly what it was. And I thank God for that taking that away 2219 02:38:37.479 --> 02:38:41.360 from me the biggest blessings of my life. And you're absolutely and I think 2220 02:38:41.399 --> 02:38:43.520 you and I as guys, we are even more prone to this because and 2221 02:38:43.559 --> 02:38:46.440 this is a differentis chapter two of the book. It's an identity issue for 2222 02:38:46.520 --> 02:38:50.680 us. I mean a lot of it is is that I don't have my 2223 02:38:50.959 --> 02:38:54.120 as a Christian. I ought to have my identity in Christ. But the 2224 02:38:54.159 --> 02:38:56.920 way we form identity, and I covered this in the book, we don't 2225 02:38:56.959 --> 02:39:00.040 typically form it that way. What we typically do instead is we form it 2226 02:39:00.079 --> 02:39:05.159 as men in our achievements, in what it is we've achieved. So if 2227 02:39:05.159 --> 02:39:07.040 I asked, you know, who are you David Well, You're going to 2228 02:39:07.079 --> 02:39:11.639 say I'm the host of the show. If you said, who are you, 2229 02:39:11.760 --> 02:39:13.680 Jim Well, I'm a cold case detective. Okay, is that who 2230 02:39:13.719 --> 02:39:18.159 I am? Look, I haven't been in a dayline episode in three years. 2231 02:39:18.920 --> 02:39:20.159 Okay, I need at some point you need to say, Okay, 2232 02:39:20.159 --> 02:39:26.559 who are you really, Jim? And this struggle of identity is so key 2233 02:39:26.600 --> 02:39:30.200 to how we function in the world because identity is really exposed as our forms 2234 02:39:30.200 --> 02:39:33.559 of worship, because I guarantee, as men, we typically form our worship 2235 02:39:33.840 --> 02:39:39.000 based on what we do. You know identity when you study it in the 2236 02:39:39.000 --> 02:39:43.760 surveys and the research on this, it's inseparable from value and purpose. And 2237 02:39:43.879 --> 02:39:50.319 unfortunately a lot of us form our identity based in reverse. In other words, 2238 02:39:50.319 --> 02:39:52.479 we asked the question where am I valuable? What am I good at? 2239 02:39:54.120 --> 02:39:56.280 What do I have purpose in? Okay, that's who I am? 2240 02:39:56.639 --> 02:40:00.399 Rather than say, well, no, who am I? I want to 2241 02:40:00.600 --> 02:40:03.719 form my value and purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based 2242 02:40:03.760 --> 02:40:07.799 on my value and purpose, because that's the problem, because there's nothing but 2243 02:40:07.879 --> 02:40:11.040 pride that comes out of forming your identity based on what you're good at, 2244 02:40:11.639 --> 02:40:16.520 because it's about what you're good at. Yes, so this is and it's 2245 02:40:16.559 --> 02:40:22.840 the biggest, one single move that leads them to contentment is to reform your 2246 02:40:22.879 --> 02:40:26.079 identity not based on what you can achieve, but based on what you receive 2247 02:40:26.639 --> 02:40:30.079 from a holy God. That is amazing. When you're talking about that, 2248 02:40:30.159 --> 02:40:31.319 you say, you know, how do you define yourself? You know, 2249 02:40:31.399 --> 02:40:33.319 is it the show that you have, is it the book that you've written, 2250 02:40:33.360 --> 02:40:35.959 or is it the career that you have. It makes me think back 2251 02:40:37.000 --> 02:40:39.680 to the Austrian Empire when they would have their emperors die. They had these 2252 02:40:39.680 --> 02:40:45.639 big, elaborate funerals and they would take them to this amazing crypt Actually I've 2253 02:40:45.680 --> 02:40:48.799 been there with my family to see this thing, and it truly is amazing. 2254 02:40:48.000 --> 02:40:52.200 And they would have as they bring the body into the crypt they would 2255 02:40:52.239 --> 02:40:54.040 knock, and the person inside would say who goes there? And they would 2256 02:40:54.040 --> 02:40:58.760 give all of the big political titles, you know, he's the empire of 2257 02:40:58.799 --> 02:41:00.799 this, and the king of that and all the rest this stuff. I 2258 02:41:00.799 --> 02:41:03.000 don't know him. And then they would knock again and they say who is 2259 02:41:03.040 --> 02:41:07.879 it, and he would give family relationships right that he has. I don't 2260 02:41:07.879 --> 02:41:11.280 know him. And then he'd knock a third time and it would say, 2261 02:41:11.040 --> 02:41:16.639 and it's a humble sinner rons Joseph, I know him, enter, you 2262 02:41:16.639 --> 02:41:18.040 know. And that's a kind of an interesting thing. Awesome. Yeah, 2263 02:41:18.079 --> 02:41:24.040 that's an awesome just a word picture of what we're talking about here. Now, 2264 02:41:24.159 --> 02:41:26.600 this is something that is and I don't know how much time we have 2265 02:41:26.639 --> 02:41:28.159 on this, but let me just say I've got a friend, Nam Joe 2266 02:41:28.200 --> 02:41:33.680 Martin, who's a doctor, who is a philosopher and a theologian. We 2267 02:41:33.760 --> 02:41:37.959 have plenty of time, by the way. So he says that men are 2268 02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:43.159 all about the Asians. When we have conversations, it's all about the Asians. 2269 02:41:43.159 --> 02:41:45.680 And I think it does expose how we form identity. So here, 2270 02:41:45.799 --> 02:41:48.799 for example, he would say, when we meet another guy, we shake 2271 02:41:48.799 --> 02:41:52.280 hands and we say, what do you do. The first ation is occupation. 2272 02:41:54.239 --> 02:41:56.760 Okay, that's the first ation, and when we're not really asking what 2273 02:41:56.879 --> 02:42:01.200 do you do? We are because of how before identity as men, we're 2274 02:42:01.239 --> 02:42:05.000 asking who are you now? As we ask that, all identity, remember, 2275 02:42:05.200 --> 02:42:09.959 is comparative. It's not about well, how wealthy are you? It's 2276 02:42:11.000 --> 02:42:15.239 how wealthy are you compared to this guy or everybody else. That's how you 2277 02:42:15.280 --> 02:42:20.399 know if you're wealthy, how smart are you compared to others? Sadly, 2278 02:42:20.200 --> 02:42:24.440 identity is for by comparing, and that's why it's so prideful, right, 2279 02:42:24.479 --> 02:42:26.280 because we have a tendency to say, well I'm better over here, I'm 2280 02:42:26.280 --> 02:42:30.760 better over there. So occupation is the first ation. And then what we're 2281 02:42:30.760 --> 02:42:33.319 measuring. We're saying, okay, well I know what that job requires in 2282 02:42:33.399 --> 02:42:39.040 terms of education. Second aation, we're now we're saying, well he's better 2283 02:42:39.120 --> 02:42:43.879 educated or I'm better educated. We're measuring here we are in that first conversation 2284 02:42:43.959 --> 02:42:48.360 with another guy, and by asking what is your occupation, we're starting to 2285 02:42:48.360 --> 02:42:52.760 measure the other asians. Second one as education. Third, well, we're 2286 02:42:52.840 --> 02:42:56.239 asking, well I know what that makes. If you're a surgeon, I 2287 02:42:56.239 --> 02:43:01.399 know you're making some or if you're an accountant, what it is you're measuring 2288 02:43:01.159 --> 02:43:05.559 compensation? That's the next station. So at some point then you're asking, 2289 02:43:05.600 --> 02:43:07.719 too, well, how good are you at this? You could be a 2290 02:43:07.760 --> 02:43:11.879 doctor, but just be a terrible doctor. Reputation is the next ation. 2291 02:43:13.680 --> 02:43:18.479 What are we doing here? Well, we're measuring based on we're assigning value 2292 02:43:18.520 --> 02:43:22.680 based on the answers here. And if you're a guy, if you're a 2293 02:43:22.680 --> 02:43:26.920 cop, especially, you could be somebody who's that's got nothing more than a 2294 02:43:26.959 --> 02:43:30.719 high school education and you're working as a parrol officer and I've been making that 2295 02:43:30.799 --> 02:43:33.200 much money, you've never tried to do anything other. But if you're six 2296 02:43:33.239 --> 02:43:37.639 foot eight and cut like a Greek god, you're still the biggest dog in 2297 02:43:37.680 --> 02:43:43.959 the room. Because now it's about intimidation at the last ation. So I 2298 02:43:43.959 --> 02:43:46.639 think he's got a point. It's very unlike now. I'm sure that for 2299 02:43:46.719 --> 02:43:50.559 all of us. If you're not a guy, you're a woman, and 2300 02:43:50.600 --> 02:43:52.479 you're listening to this, then there's probably some other level of it. But 2301 02:43:52.559 --> 02:43:58.399 be honest, we do this all the time. And because identity is comparative, 2302 02:43:58.959 --> 02:44:03.680 it really takes it rears its head, most notably in group gatherings, 2303 02:44:03.399 --> 02:44:11.440 where you're introducing yourself because now you're getting the opportunity to compare well, there's 2304 02:44:11.479 --> 02:44:18.799 the danger in it, and identity becomes the thing that sadly is behind so 2305 02:44:18.079 --> 02:44:24.360 much of our trauma and struggle. This is a separate chapter of this book. 2306 02:44:24.399 --> 02:44:26.559 I'll give you an example of this. We would do a lot of 2307 02:44:26.600 --> 02:44:31.840 work now with officers to Billy Graham Association in the summer. So we're getting 2308 02:44:31.840 --> 02:44:35.440 ready to lead in two weeks here to do the first of six weeks of 2309 02:44:35.520 --> 02:44:39.760 counseling for marriage resiliency for officers who have been involved in critical incidents and and 2310 02:44:39.879 --> 02:44:41.559 now they're struggling in their marriage. And sometimes they only men get there before 2311 02:44:41.559 --> 02:44:43.399 they get a divorce. They get a divorce, they say, we're not 2312 02:44:43.399 --> 02:44:46.680 coming. I always say, just hold on, just try to get through 2313 02:44:46.719 --> 02:44:52.040 this trip first before you make a decision that big. But this is the 2314 02:44:52.120 --> 02:44:56.239 dire straits therein Okay. I discovered by three or four years ago the thing 2315 02:44:56.280 --> 02:45:00.440 that is the biggest struggle for officers, especially if you're in injured, is 2316 02:45:00.479 --> 02:45:03.639 identity. It turns out that if you were to look at all of the 2317 02:45:03.680 --> 02:45:07.319 trauma in your life, whatever it was, if it was an injury, 2318 02:45:07.360 --> 02:45:11.120 you suffered, a divorce, a loss of a job, a child, 2319 02:45:11.200 --> 02:45:15.120 being loved, whatever you lost, whatever it was you suffered in a trauma, 2320 02:45:15.920 --> 02:45:18.520 You'll see that at that same point you were suffering the trauma, you 2321 02:45:18.559 --> 02:45:22.600 had a relatively dramatic shift in your identity. You thought of yourself as married. 2322 02:45:22.639 --> 02:45:26.879 Now you're divorced, you see yourself differently. Identity is simply how you 2323 02:45:26.920 --> 02:45:31.239 continuously see yourself. The self is at the issue, and every time you 2324 02:45:31.239 --> 02:45:35.319 suffer a trauma, you suffer an identity shift. So it's interesting that trauma 2325 02:45:35.520 --> 02:45:41.520 typically causes an identity shift, but the opposite is also true. An identity 2326 02:45:41.559 --> 02:45:46.639 shift often causes trauma. So if you wanted to protect yourself from trauma or 2327 02:45:46.799 --> 02:45:50.520 minimize the kind of trauma you'll experience, you need to put your identity in 2328 02:45:50.600 --> 02:45:56.200 something that can't be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you, bruised 2329 02:45:56.239 --> 02:45:58.120 in some way, damaged in some way. And of the three ways that 2330 02:45:58.159 --> 02:46:03.600 we form identity inside out, outside in, or top side down, only 2331 02:46:03.680 --> 02:46:07.639 one of these three ways is stable enough to protect you from shifting. If 2332 02:46:07.680 --> 02:46:11.079 you're forming your identity outside in where you say it like this is how the 2333 02:46:11.120 --> 02:46:16.920 ancients did it. You know, this thing outside of me existed before I 2334 02:46:16.959 --> 02:46:18.639 was ever born, and I'm just going to reach out and grab that and 2335 02:46:18.719 --> 02:46:22.879 form my identity. So it's a tribe. That's the tribe I was raised 2336 02:46:22.920 --> 02:46:26.840 in. It's the name of my family name, it's the profession of my 2337 02:46:28.000 --> 02:46:33.159 family. We're all cops, so that's like who I am. Okay, 2338 02:46:33.200 --> 02:46:35.559 that's outside in identity, and I all of us do some of that inside 2339 02:46:35.559 --> 02:46:39.559 out based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences. I'm 2340 02:46:39.559 --> 02:46:45.440 going to ask you outside of me to identify me based on my innate heart's 2341 02:46:45.559 --> 02:46:50.479 desires. Okay, that's inside out identity. Both of those are unstable because 2342 02:46:50.520 --> 02:46:52.559 at some point your job ends, you're going to retire, then who are 2343 02:46:52.559 --> 02:46:58.079 you then? Or you're going to get injured and or your desires are going 2344 02:46:58.120 --> 02:47:00.959 to change because your heart is fickle, the nature of it. Well, 2345 02:47:00.959 --> 02:47:03.959 then get ready to suffer some trauma on the course you're now. If you've 2346 02:47:03.000 --> 02:47:07.799 formed your identity top side down, where you put it in something that's transcendent 2347 02:47:07.879 --> 02:47:13.959 and unchanging, then you're going to have lows in your life, of course, 2348 02:47:13.040 --> 02:47:18.639 but they're going to be not quite as deep because that the day before 2349 02:47:18.680 --> 02:47:20.639 you suffer the injury, you were a child of You were in Christ that 2350 02:47:20.760 --> 02:47:24.680 day. The day after you suffer the injury, you're still in Christ. 2351 02:47:24.520 --> 02:47:28.600 You're still the same God sees you the same way. Now, are you 2352 02:47:28.639 --> 02:47:31.280 going to struggle because you're an injury? Of course? But who you are 2353 02:47:31.520 --> 02:47:35.159 hasn't changed. And it turns out that's the thing that we struggle with the 2354 02:47:35.200 --> 02:47:37.559 most, even in an injury. It's not so much just the pain of 2355 02:47:37.559 --> 02:47:43.479 the injury, it's who am I now? And that's why we have to 2356 02:47:43.520 --> 02:47:46.680 kind of really be serious about our identity formation or we're going to find ourselves. 2357 02:47:46.920 --> 02:47:50.879 It's about human flourishing. It really is. Yeah, And of course 2358 02:47:50.920 --> 02:47:52.520 you know it's about integrity. And we often think about integrity is how other 2359 02:47:52.559 --> 02:47:56.399 people perceive us or something, but it really is how you perceive yourself. 2360 02:47:56.639 --> 02:48:01.040 Do you have that integrity and you have that integrat If you're thinking about that 2361 02:48:01.079 --> 02:48:05.319 from top down, this is so wise. I'm really enjoying listening to you 2362 02:48:05.440 --> 02:48:09.680 talk about this, and I think about how unique things are right now. 2363 02:48:09.680 --> 02:48:11.879 As you begin talking about that, you said, you know, this lure 2364 02:48:13.600 --> 02:48:16.120 of being famous or a lot of people following you, that all comes with 2365 02:48:16.239 --> 02:48:20.479 the social media stuff. It truly is amazing to me to see that and 2366 02:48:20.520 --> 02:48:26.319 how that has transformed younger people. And it is such a transformational thing to 2367 02:48:26.399 --> 02:48:30.360 think that there is some value in having a bunch of people that you don't 2368 02:48:30.440 --> 02:48:33.840 know, you know, following you and everything. I'm going to tell you 2369 02:48:33.159 --> 02:48:37.040 sing on that. It's amazing. Yeah, that is something that we take 2370 02:48:37.040 --> 02:48:39.639 for granted, David. We take it for granted because yes, we are 2371 02:48:39.680 --> 02:48:43.959 now in an age the information age has become the identity age. Why because 2372 02:48:43.799 --> 02:48:46.680 so how do we start? If you go on our social media platforms, 2373 02:48:46.719 --> 02:48:50.319 what's the very first thing we have a moniker, like, what is the 2374 02:48:50.360 --> 02:48:54.200 public name? I'm going to adopt that I want you to see me as 2375 02:48:56.120 --> 02:48:58.319 second, we're going to put to buy you. Now, we're going to 2376 02:48:58.360 --> 02:49:03.360 list a series of priorities, identity priorities in the bio. So all of 2377 02:49:03.360 --> 02:49:07.479 this, then we're going to spend the next how many years on social media 2378 02:49:07.159 --> 02:49:13.879 posting only in a way that amplifies the way I already want you to see 2379 02:49:13.920 --> 02:49:16.200 me. That's right. So I'm not going to reveal something of myself that 2380 02:49:16.719 --> 02:49:22.719 violates the identity I've already established. And even if I'm not even thinking about 2381 02:49:22.719 --> 02:49:26.799 it. My posts always expose who I am, And there were times in 2382 02:49:26.959 --> 02:49:31.840 generations prior where you didn't know who people were, and the way you know 2383 02:49:31.879 --> 02:49:39.520 who they are now, having access to everything we think gives us gives people 2384 02:49:39.520 --> 02:49:43.360 complete access to who we really are. And I think we know that if 2385 02:49:43.399 --> 02:49:46.840 a republic figure and so we're careful. You know, I never post anything 2386 02:49:46.840 --> 02:49:52.799 about my family on social media. I stay pretty focused in that area of 2387 02:49:52.920 --> 02:49:56.440 what it is I'm trying to communicate related to the Gospel, and I just 2388 02:49:56.440 --> 02:50:00.920 stay focused on that. Now that doesn't that gives people a view of me 2389 02:50:01.000 --> 02:50:05.959 that's not actually true. It's the view that I'm crafting for them, and 2390 02:50:05.040 --> 02:50:07.799 we have to be aware of that. But everyone does that. I mean, 2391 02:50:09.239 --> 02:50:13.639 I see people I follow who you think all they do is eat get 2392 02:50:13.959 --> 02:50:20.120 But it's really that it's not just that we are in some way forming and 2393 02:50:20.159 --> 02:50:24.520 sharing our identity. It's that we are also revealing our idols, We're revealing 2394 02:50:24.520 --> 02:50:28.680 our priorities. We're revealing this stuff that we think is so consequential, so 2395 02:50:28.760 --> 02:50:37.120 important that we are willing to proclaim it. That's one of the ways you 2396 02:50:37.120 --> 02:50:39.559 can you can see what your idols are, ask yourself, like, look 2397 02:50:39.559 --> 02:50:41.680 at your social media streams. Well, I want to know what your idols 2398 02:50:41.680 --> 02:50:43.879 are. I can kind of figure it out if you've got a social media 2399 02:50:43.879 --> 02:50:48.040 platform, right, that's right. Yeah, we got a full lifelog that 2400 02:50:48.120 --> 02:50:50.959 is up there. Yeah. You know, it's such a shallow things we're 2401 02:50:50.959 --> 02:50:54.280 talking about with social media. It's there so that you know, you can 2402 02:50:54.319 --> 02:50:58.959 glorify yourself. Isn't it interesting that in the last days people become such lovers 2403 02:50:58.959 --> 02:51:03.680 of self that that we've never had those tools, that we've never had the 2404 02:51:03.680 --> 02:51:07.520 tools to magnifize it exactly. Yeah, And I think at some point we 2405 02:51:07.559 --> 02:51:11.920 are going to have we're going to see that this is not beneficial to our 2406 02:51:11.959 --> 02:51:16.959 well being and we're going to volunteerly pull back a little bit, or we're 2407 02:51:16.959 --> 02:51:20.159 going to reach a point in our lives where we're going to burn out on 2408 02:51:20.200 --> 02:51:22.440 it and we're going to put so you might be more active on social media 2409 02:51:22.479 --> 02:51:26.200 at some point in your life than you are later. But I'm also trying 2410 02:51:26.200 --> 02:51:28.719 to be very careful not to be the old guy who's just shaking his fist 2411 02:51:28.760 --> 02:51:33.000 at the moon, right, because I use social media as much as anybody 2412 02:51:33.000 --> 02:51:37.680 else but I do want us to be very practical about it. Like, 2413 02:51:37.680 --> 02:51:41.520 look, if we're trying to protect ourselves from what causes us to do bad 2414 02:51:41.559 --> 02:51:46.159 things, we have to have a very honest assessment of who we are. 2415 02:51:46.760 --> 02:51:48.120 Are we buying in This is a different chapter in the book. But are 2416 02:51:48.120 --> 02:51:54.680 we by nature innocent, born innocent, born virtuous? And we are corrupted 2417 02:51:54.760 --> 02:51:58.360 by our families, by our environments, by the systems that are in place, 2418 02:51:58.399 --> 02:52:01.840 even from government systems? Is that who we are? Or is the 2419 02:52:01.879 --> 02:52:05.559 flip true that we are by nature fallen and depraved enough, but no matter 2420 02:52:05.639 --> 02:52:09.440 what system you put us in, we'll find a way to corrupt it, 2421 02:52:09.200 --> 02:52:13.879 even religious systems. Which of those two things is true? We need to 2422 02:52:13.920 --> 02:52:16.760 figure that out because if the second is true, which has always been the 2423 02:52:16.799 --> 02:52:20.719 claim of the Christian worldview, that we are by nature fallen, well, 2424 02:52:20.719 --> 02:52:24.440 now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture, and we can 2425 02:52:24.520 --> 02:52:28.680 put our resources in the right direction. Look, Luther put it this way. 2426 02:52:28.719 --> 02:52:35.239 We are so inwardly focused that we can take even things that are good 2427 02:52:35.639 --> 02:52:39.079 and corrupt them and do them for selfish. You can even behave uber morally, 2428 02:52:39.760 --> 02:52:43.000 but you're doing it for selfish reasons. Yea, even our efforts to 2429 02:52:43.079 --> 02:52:48.520 do something godly are entirely depraved and selfish, is what his claim is. 2430 02:52:48.079 --> 02:52:52.680 This is what you find also in the modern studies about altruism, Like people 2431 02:52:52.680 --> 02:52:58.360 are trying to figure out, how could it be that someone who could be 2432 02:52:58.360 --> 02:53:03.280 a Pulitzer prize winner can also kill his spouse or her spouse. How could 2433 02:53:03.319 --> 02:53:05.879 that be? How could it be that there's somebody who, for the last 2434 02:53:05.959 --> 02:53:09.200 thirty years has been an exemplar in our community, the deacon at the church, 2435 02:53:09.399 --> 02:53:13.040 the doctor who delivered my babies, Yet thirty years ago he killed his 2436 02:53:13.079 --> 02:53:16.920 wife. How could that be? There's no way he could be that duplicit? 2437 02:53:18.120 --> 02:53:20.639 Is there? This enigma of man has to be sorted out. Now, 2438 02:53:22.040 --> 02:53:24.000 what I see in the studies is that, yes, we do have 2439 02:53:24.079 --> 02:53:31.040 good examples of the altruism of humans. Humans are capable of great altruism. 2440 02:53:31.079 --> 02:53:37.200 They are until it doesn't serve them personally. So in other words, I'm 2441 02:53:37.280 --> 02:53:41.920 usually the studies show that humans are usually pretty generous until resources get tight. 2442 02:53:43.079 --> 02:53:46.680 Then we start hoarding toilet paper. Well why are we doing that? Because 2443 02:53:46.399 --> 02:53:52.200 we are at our base nature self serving, and even when we are doing 2444 02:53:52.440 --> 02:53:56.040 good for others. It serves us in some way. That's why we're doing 2445 02:53:56.040 --> 02:54:00.200 it. We want to be seen a certain way. Very seldom to see 2446 02:54:00.239 --> 02:54:03.840 people who you know do good things, who aren't proclaiming to you that they 2447 02:54:03.879 --> 02:54:07.280 do good things. That's how you know they're doing good things. Well, 2448 02:54:07.520 --> 02:54:11.440 that's because that proclamation is what they're really after. Yeah, okay, that's 2449 02:54:11.479 --> 02:54:13.200 the truth. If that's the case, then now we can make a proper 2450 02:54:13.239 --> 02:54:16.520 assessment of our own condition. Number One, it causes me to know that 2451 02:54:16.600 --> 02:54:20.639 I am not trustworthy, that I am no different. Number One, It's 2452 02:54:20.719 --> 02:54:24.920 leveled the field for me. So I never went into an interview once I 2453 02:54:24.079 --> 02:54:28.399 had this realization. I never went into an interview and thought I was somehow 2454 02:54:28.440 --> 02:54:31.959 better than the guy I was interviewing. No, I knew that we're all 2455 02:54:31.000 --> 02:54:35.680 the same person. And but for the grace of God, my buttons haven't 2456 02:54:35.719 --> 02:54:37.680 been pushed the way that this poor guy's buttons have been pushed. Now, 2457 02:54:37.680 --> 02:54:43.159 look, this is not to try to elevate people who do bad behavior. 2458 02:54:43.840 --> 02:54:46.840 I'm a justice guy, so we're going to take care of this. But 2459 02:54:48.000 --> 02:54:52.600 I recognize that I am just like him. We are all just like him. 2460 02:54:52.639 --> 02:54:56.840 When you watch an episode of Dateline. I'm hoping you're not sitting there 2461 02:54:56.840 --> 02:55:00.680 and going, yeah, what an idiot. I hope if you watch it 2462 02:55:00.680 --> 02:55:03.280 with a certain amount of introspection and you're thinking, oh, that could easily 2463 02:55:03.319 --> 02:55:07.760 have been me, because that is where humility begins. It begins when you 2464 02:55:07.799 --> 02:55:13.040 realize the proper role. By the way, if you know the fallen nature 2465 02:55:13.079 --> 02:55:16.600 of humans, if you know that's really true, well that also changes the 2466 02:55:16.600 --> 02:55:20.399 way you establish systems. This is why our country was built in a way 2467 02:55:20.440 --> 02:55:24.760 that had the kinds of checks and balances between the three arms of the federal 2468 02:55:24.799 --> 02:55:28.639 government. Why is that there because the people who formed it new you can't 2469 02:55:28.680 --> 02:55:33.360 trust people, you can't trust humans. We are by nature fallen if we 2470 02:55:33.399 --> 02:55:35.879 don't have a way to check and balance each other, if we don't have 2471 02:55:35.920 --> 02:55:39.280 a community. Basically, this is why the Christian worldview has not lived in 2472 02:55:39.280 --> 02:55:43.000 isolation, because this is why marriages. So this is another chapter of the 2473 02:55:43.000 --> 02:55:48.760 book why marriage is so important. Because I've close enough to another human that 2474 02:55:48.840 --> 02:55:52.520 i have given her permission to tell me where I'm wrong. I've given her 2475 02:55:52.559 --> 02:55:58.200 permission to help shape me toward what it is God wants from me. And 2476 02:55:58.600 --> 02:56:03.319 if you're not in a relationship with somebody who you know well enough to have 2477 02:56:03.399 --> 02:56:07.440 given them permission to tell you what an idiot you are right now, and 2478 02:56:07.559 --> 02:56:11.840 you don't have true friends, and you don't have the kind of relationship that 2479 02:56:11.479 --> 02:56:15.840 will urge you towards something better. So it turns out that those are other 2480 02:56:15.920 --> 02:56:20.879 things that sociologists have discovered. It was a chapter in here about true friendship 2481 02:56:20.920 --> 02:56:24.840 or why because I've worked so many cases where people were killed by somebody they 2482 02:56:24.840 --> 02:56:28.360 thought was their true friend. M Well, so what is the nature of 2483 02:56:28.440 --> 02:56:33.000 quality relationships? What we need to kind of dig into that, because it 2484 02:56:33.040 --> 02:56:37.079 turns out that there are some relationships that if you're listening, that you're holding 2485 02:56:37.239 --> 02:56:41.680 right now, that are hurting you, that are detrimental to your well being, 2486 02:56:41.319 --> 02:56:45.559 and that might at some point, by the way, likely if I'm 2487 02:56:45.639 --> 02:56:46.959 the first time I'm going to do, if I'm working your homicide, is 2488 02:56:46.959 --> 02:56:50.959 I'm going to look back at all your relationships because the chances are that is 2489 02:56:52.000 --> 02:56:56.120 somebody you knew really well who kills you. And in the end we have 2490 02:56:56.200 --> 02:57:00.959 to ask the question, what am I doing wrong that I'm out with somebody 2491 02:57:01.360 --> 02:57:05.520 who I have not in some way vetted better? You know, so I 2492 02:57:05.559 --> 02:57:07.520 think a lot of this is important for us as Christians to say, oh, 2493 02:57:07.559 --> 02:57:11.000 yeah, by the way, the scripture has an antidote for that. 2494 02:57:11.000 --> 02:57:13.520 This Christian's got great guidance for that. We just haven't been paying attention in 2495 02:57:13.520 --> 02:57:18.040 this generation. It seems. Yeah, you have a statement. Many crime 2496 02:57:18.079 --> 02:57:20.680 stories are centered around poor relationships, you know, not having a relationship or 2497 02:57:20.719 --> 02:57:24.280 having a relationship that's going to I guess goed you into that right some way. 2498 02:57:24.360 --> 02:57:26.680 Yeah, I mean this is why. So if you're looking at what 2499 02:57:26.840 --> 02:57:30.719 causes and we've got enough time, I think you're to cover this that if 2500 02:57:30.719 --> 02:57:37.239 you look at what is causing, what really describes relationships that will cause you 2501 02:57:37.280 --> 02:57:41.280 to flourish. It turns out that studies show this one of the longest studies 2502 02:57:41.319 --> 02:57:46.559 ever done on human happiness, looks like sixty year study that was done, 2503 02:57:48.600 --> 02:57:52.440 and it really revealed that is your relationships there at the key the core of 2504 02:57:52.479 --> 02:57:56.520 what causes you to feel content, to be happy, to have satisfied life, 2505 02:57:56.559 --> 02:58:00.479 satisfying life. But it's not just any kind of relationship. Turns out, 2506 02:58:00.520 --> 02:58:03.399 it's the kind of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of people 2507 02:58:03.399 --> 02:58:07.520 on social media. So there's three things. Three things that lead to the 2508 02:58:07.600 --> 02:58:13.520 quality of flourishing in your relationships. Here they are, First, you need 2509 02:58:13.799 --> 02:58:18.200 deep committed relationships with people you've given permission to be like a brother to say, 2510 02:58:18.200 --> 02:58:22.120 hey, you know what did your author rails here? And that has 2511 02:58:22.159 --> 02:58:26.120 to be with a small number of people. You can't have those kinds of 2512 02:58:26.159 --> 02:58:30.719 deep committed relationships because they require a certain amount of vulnerability and a certain amount 2513 02:58:30.760 --> 02:58:33.319 of time. So if you're somebody who says, oh, I know lots 2514 02:58:33.360 --> 02:58:35.520 of people, I got lots of friends, well they're probably not. Then 2515 02:58:35.600 --> 02:58:39.639 these kinds of friends, you need to have a small number of deeply committed 2516 02:58:39.680 --> 02:58:46.959 relationships with third piece, virtuous people. Now here's the reason why. I've 2517 02:58:46.079 --> 02:58:52.159 met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others who are not virtuous, 2518 02:58:52.520 --> 02:58:56.040 and they're basically they're part of their crime family. And so you can have 2519 02:58:56.280 --> 02:59:01.680 deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there's no virtue. Now here's the 2520 02:59:01.840 --> 02:59:05.959 tricky question is what do we call virtuous? Who gets to decide? So 2521 02:59:05.040 --> 02:59:09.399 there's a code of ethics amongst gangsters, is that what is virtuous? What 2522 02:59:09.440 --> 02:59:11.959 they say is because they would say, hey, if you offend us we're 2523 02:59:11.959 --> 02:59:13.840 going to come over there and kill you. That's just the code. You 2524 02:59:13.920 --> 02:59:16.959 knew better before you did that. You should have known that was coming because 2525 02:59:18.239 --> 02:59:20.840 you know that's what you're going to get. And so who just gets to 2526 02:59:20.879 --> 02:59:26.239 decide what is righteous, right or wrong virtuous? Who gets to decide that? 2527 02:59:26.479 --> 02:59:30.799 Is it a group of people or is it a single individual, or 2528 02:59:30.840 --> 02:59:35.360 is there something that transcends all of us that it overarches all communities. So 2529 02:59:35.440 --> 02:59:43.159 it turns out that virtue is something that does require a transcendent, unchanging, 2530 02:59:43.360 --> 02:59:48.360 overarching virtue giver, the authority that we would actually say virtue is grounded in 2531 02:59:48.399 --> 02:59:52.799 because if we say it's grounded in groups, then get ready for all kinds 2532 02:59:52.840 --> 02:59:56.680 of stupid. And we're already seeing this because what's virtuous to even politically, 2533 02:59:56.840 --> 03:00:00.399 what's virtuous to one side or the other is very different. Then we're arguing 2534 03:00:00.440 --> 03:00:05.680 that is if there's no transcendent, overarching virtue. So this is one of 2535 03:00:05.680 --> 03:00:11.840 those areas your relationships that does benefit from a worldview in which you can ground 2536 03:00:11.959 --> 03:00:16.920 virtue objectively. There's a couple of places where that happens in this book, 2537 03:00:16.959 --> 03:00:20.399 but this is one that's very important because we can say you tell your kids 2538 03:00:20.440 --> 03:00:22.120 all the time, but don't be handles. There's a bad people who gets 2539 03:00:22.120 --> 03:00:26.360 to this out they're bad. This is now suddenly caught. Is going to 2540 03:00:26.360 --> 03:00:28.559 have to cause us to think about how we ground good and bad? How 2541 03:00:28.559 --> 03:00:31.719 do we ground a righteousness? And if you're going to ground it in just 2542 03:00:31.799 --> 03:00:37.000 the opinion of people, well that's every case. I work at some point 2543 03:00:37.280 --> 03:00:41.319 you have to be wiser than that. And that's why I think it's important 2544 03:00:41.360 --> 03:00:46.079 for us to adopt the one worldview, grounded and humility that provides you with 2545 03:00:46.120 --> 03:00:50.600 an objective, transcendent source for virtue that is such great wisdom. I'm really 2546 03:00:50.600 --> 03:00:54.680 looking forward reading this book, and of course it's just come out, but 2547 03:00:54.760 --> 03:00:56.319 it is available now, right, Yes, it's available now. And I 2548 03:00:56.319 --> 03:01:00.680 appreciate you can learn more at the Truth than truecrime dot com. The Truth 2549 03:01:00.680 --> 03:01:05.280 intruecrime dot com. And because I'm so sensitive to the idea that this should 2550 03:01:05.280 --> 03:01:07.760 not be about us just building a platform and trying to sell something. What 2551 03:01:07.840 --> 03:01:11.440 we do at that website, you'll see there's a ton of free stuff that 2552 03:01:11.520 --> 03:01:13.920 comes with the purchase. We simply wanted to try to level that a little 2553 03:01:13.920 --> 03:01:18.440 bit right so that you don't feel like this is about spending money on a 2554 03:01:18.440 --> 03:01:20.680 book. I really want to advance the causes that are in the book, 2555 03:01:20.719 --> 03:01:24.760 and that's the challenge, of course. Excellent, excellent book. Again, 2556 03:01:24.879 --> 03:01:31.360 it is the Truth in True Crime that's in not end the Truth in Truecrime 2557 03:01:31.600 --> 03:01:33.760 dot Com. And just before you go, I know you got to go. 2558 03:01:33.520 --> 03:01:37.799 This message is from Guard Goldsmith and Rock Finney says thank you both. 2559 03:01:37.840 --> 03:01:41.879 Cold Case Christianity is excellent, and in the conversation today, I'm reminded that 2560 03:01:41.959 --> 03:01:46.520 the trap that even catches people who try to spread freedom messages or biblical messages, 2561 03:01:46.600 --> 03:01:50.719 it seems that one must beware of commoditizing oneself. Difficult to promote one's 2562 03:01:50.799 --> 03:01:56.920 work, even freedom or biblical work without that promotion becoming self promoting rather than 2563 03:01:58.000 --> 03:02:01.680 praising God. That's absolutely so good, so good. Yeah, great observation. 2564 03:02:01.879 --> 03:02:05.239 He's written me before. He loved Cold Case Christianity, which you got 2565 03:02:05.239 --> 03:02:09.280 the first time I interviewed you. But I'm really looking forward to the Truth 2566 03:02:09.319 --> 03:02:13.239 and True Crime. And again there's a website, the Truth and Truecrime dot 2567 03:02:13.280 --> 03:02:16.959 Com. Thank you much, thank you so much for joining us, Sarah. 2568 03:02:16.479 --> 03:02:22.120 Excellent stuff and such wisdom. It truly is amazing. Looking forward to 2569 03:02:22.440 --> 03:02:24.120 reading it myself. Thank you, Well, I'm indebted to you. Thanks 2570 03:02:24.120 --> 03:02:39.760 so much for having me well, thank you. The David Night Show is 2571 03:02:39.840 --> 03:02:48.040 a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed to logic by listening to 2572 03:02:48.120 --> 03:02:54.479 The David Knight Show, please do your part and try not to spread it. 2573 03:02:56.319 --> 03:03:03.479 Financial support, or simply tell the others about the show causes this dangerous 2574 03:03:03.520 --> 03:03:09.719 information to spread. 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