1 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,280 We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Sean Fleetwood. 2 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,079 As always, you can email the show at radio at the Federalist dot com, 3 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,519 follow us on Twitter at fdurlst. Make sure to subscribe wherever you download 4 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:33,399 your podcasts, and the premium version on our website. Today I'm joined by 5 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,200 Andy Roth. Andy is the president of the State Freedomcocus Network. He previously 6 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,600 worked on Capitol Hill for nearly twenty years. I was affiliated with the Club 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,520 for Growth. Andy Roth, Welcome to the program. Thanks for having Sean. 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,679 Yeah, absolutely, and you guys have been doing a lot of great 9 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:51,079 work with State Freedom Caucus, especially now with state legislatures being in session. 10 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:54,600 But before we kind of delve into the more specifics of what's been going on 11 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,679 in some of these states, can you kind of give everyone a ten thousand 12 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:00,719 foot overview of what is the State freedomco Network, How you guys got started, 13 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:04,000 what was the inspiration behind the idea? Yeah, so the State Freedom 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:11,840 Caucus Network was created back in December twenty twenty one, but before that, 15 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:15,079 the House Freedom Caucus, which a lot of your listeners probably know of, 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:21,159 was started in twenty fifteen, and they're the most conservative members of the US 17 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:26,400 House here in DC. And that business model where like minded conservatives come together 18 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:32,319 in form a caucus is a great business model. We've seen that play out 19 00:01:32,519 --> 00:01:36,560 up here in DC. Why isn't that happening at the state level, Like, 20 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:41,159 why aren't there fifty state freedom caucuses? So the State Freedom Caucus Network 21 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,799 launched in December of twenty twenty one, and with the Georgia Freedom Caucus it 22 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,280 was the first one, and then we went to South Carolina, South Dakota, 23 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:55,319 Illinois, Arizona, on and on. Missouri was our most recent one. 24 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:59,599 They launched in January of this year. So we have eleven total, 25 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,599 and the goal is to get into all fifty. You know, I joke 26 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:08,520 that California and Vermont and Hawaii are going to take some time. But every 27 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:15,680 state deserves one. Everyone every state needs one. I argue that there are 28 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:21,199 fifty swamps and they're worse than DC. And some people don't believe me when 29 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,240 I say that, but it's true. And the reason why it's true is 30 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:30,520 that so much attention is paid on DC. Every time you turn on your 31 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,199 TV, you are hearing about Biden, Trump, the war in Ukraine, 32 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,800 inflation and all those things. Are important that people should be paying attention to. 33 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:46,080 But nobody knows what's happening in Columbia, South Carolina, or in Boise, 34 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:51,039 Idaho, and really bad things are happening. But the establishment in those 35 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:57,120 fifty swamps like operating in the dark where there's very little media attention. Most 36 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,199 people don't know who their state rep or their state senator is, so it's 37 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:06,120 a perfect environment for really bad things to happen. And so we launched the 38 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:10,879 network to combat that problem. And our job is to just help these conservative 39 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:17,080 lawmakers and also members that aren't in the Freedom the State Freedom causes, help 40 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:23,439 recognize what the problem is and fight it and win. Yeah, and I 41 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:27,240 think you guys did a report with The Daily Wire last year, if I'm 42 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,479 not correct, where you basically broke down every state legislature in the country looking 43 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,759 at these Republicans voting records, and the findings are very astonishing because you know, 44 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:38,919 most people look at a state like South Carolina, Oh, you have 45 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:44,039 a Republican governor Republican legislature, so it's got to be a conservative state. 46 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,639 But then you look at the voting record and I think only Hawaii was like 47 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:53,039 the only GOP you know representatives who had a less conservative voting record than South 48 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:58,039 Carolina, right they one of the most liberal of Republicans in the country and 49 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,039 kind of dovetailing into South Carolina. There's been a lot of activity going on 50 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:05,080 there, particularly over this health bill. You know, most people look back 51 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,680 at the COVID pandemic and how horribly it was botched not just by Democrat governors 52 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:15,639 and governments controlled governments, but also Republicans as well, and so I know 53 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,199 there's been a big battle going on there recently, in recent weeks. I 54 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,560 was hoping you could give our audience an insight into what's been going on there. 55 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:26,879 So the Daily Wire piece that you're talking about it was a very eye 56 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:30,600 opening report. Basically, it's said that there are eighteen or nineteen states that 57 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:36,120 are more conservative than Florida. Because everybody thinks of Florida under Desantus as being 58 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:42,040 the most conservative state in the country when it comes to enacting good legislation at 59 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:46,240 the state level, there are eighteen or nineteen states that are technically more red 60 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:53,480 than Florida, but are nowhere close to performing like Florida. And the reason 61 00:04:53,480 --> 00:05:00,800 why is because liberal Democrats know that they cannot get elected to the state legislature 62 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,480 in a state like South Carolina or Wyoming, so they put an R after 63 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,759 their name, get elected, and then vote like liberal Democrats. And you 64 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,600 mentioned that Hawaii is the most liberal Republicans in the state legislature. South Carolina 65 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:23,439 is the second most liberal. The legislature is stacked with liberal Democrats who have 66 00:05:24,319 --> 00:05:30,120 and are after their name, and so South Carolina just is not capable of 67 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,920 passing the kind of things that are happening in Florida. And the Health of 68 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,519 Czar bill, what you're talking about is the latest example of this. The 69 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,680 supporters of this bill, including the governor and all the liberal Democrats and the 70 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:49,120 legislature, they say, oh, we're consolidating government, we're making it more 71 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,920 efficient, we're going to streamline the process. But what they're trying to do 72 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:00,399 is consolidate all of the power into a Health of Czar, a doctorauci, 73 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,399 so to speak. In South Carolina, they tried to ram this bill through 74 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:11,240 and our South Carolina Freedom Caucus on the very last day of session and they 75 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:16,199 have a hard constitutional stop at five pm on a specific day where all legislation 76 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:23,040 has to stop. Our South Carolina Freedom Caucus. They used a procedural motion 77 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,000 to basically just block the bill, and so it died on the vine and 78 00:06:28,079 --> 00:06:31,600 it was a great victory for conservatives. The uniparty in South Carolina came out 79 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:38,560 and whined about how the South Carolina Freedom Caucus was harming South Carolinians by doing 80 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:43,600 this, and it was just you know, glossary stuff. And so it 81 00:06:43,639 --> 00:06:46,680 was a great victory. But now we just found out a couple of days 82 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,560 ago that the governor's going to use his power with a veto session. He's 83 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,240 got a veto TICKI tech bills here and there, and so there's going to 84 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,319 be a veto session coming up and they're going to try and jam this built 85 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,399 through again. So the fight's not over. And I know that there's been 86 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,279 like this has been going on for years, this kind of activity. I 87 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:12,439 think back in twenty twenty two in the primary season, you had a couple 88 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:16,639 incumbents that lost to Freedom Caucus backed candidates. And then later that year, 89 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:23,439 when the session for Legislatures starting to roll in, the Republican Conference was like, 90 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,959 okay, well we're going to institute which is basically like a loyalty pledge, 91 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,560 like you have to pledge that oh, you can't run against their campaign 92 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,000 against a fellow GOP incumbent. And if I recall correctly, the Freedom Caucus 93 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:36,480 was like, no, no, we're not doing that, and they got 94 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,199 kicked out of the conference. That's exactly it. I mean, it was 95 00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:46,000 absurd on its face with this loyalty pledge said and basically said that Republicans can't 96 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,959 campaign against each other. And one of the Freedom Caucus members he raised his 97 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,480 hand in the private meeting and said, what does campaign mean, because that's 98 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,399 a very vague term. Does it mean that I cannot take a picture of 99 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:05,040 the vote board on the House floor and tweet it out just as a matter 100 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:09,600 of fact, like, here's how your representative voted on this bill that did 101 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:15,120 X, Y and Z. Is that campaigning against our fellow Republicans? And 102 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,759 they said yes. And so when they heard that then they're like, well, 103 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:22,920 we're not going to sign this. And so they summarily got kicked out 104 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:31,639 of the House Republican conference in South Carolina. And it, frankly, it's 105 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,279 the best thing that's ever happened in the Freedom Caucus. So now they don't 106 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:39,000 have to listen to these fake Republicans wind to them in private meetings every week, 107 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,159 so it's great. Yeah, and this kind of retaliation I know isn't 108 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,919 necessarily exclusive to South Carolina. It's something you're seeing places. Yeah. Do 109 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:52,919 you have these freedom caucuses the more recent I think it's Missouri you mentioned earlier 110 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,639 being your kind of newest freedom Caucus. I know at the beginning of the 111 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,919 session that there was some back and forth between members of the Freedom Caucus and 112 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:07,039 leadership because the Freedom Caucus wanted leadership to obviously prioritize conservative legislation shocker, I 113 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:13,320 know, but leadership was just not having it in the President of the Senate, 114 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:18,799 Caleb Rowden, basically retaliated against them and as an active retaliation, gave 115 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:24,360 them the farthest parking spots away from the Capitol. I know that particularly. 116 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,919 It was worse than that by the way. They lost their committee chairs, 117 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:33,679 they lost their parking spots, some of their staff got docked ten thousand dollars 118 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:39,919 and their pay just because they worked for Freedom Caucus members, and there was 119 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,320 even a threat that they were going to take away their furniture. And the 120 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:50,360 emotions got so heated that one of the leaders, Sinny McLoughlin, threatened to 121 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:54,840 expel or try to expel one of our Missouri Freedom Caucus members out of his 122 00:09:54,919 --> 00:10:00,200 office, like denying the wishes of his voters. She wanted to kick I'm 123 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,480 literally out of the legislature, and she later apologized for that because she can 124 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,879 control her emotions. But when they punish our members, it's very swift and 125 00:10:11,039 --> 00:10:15,360 very brutal, and they think that it works. And that's the best part 126 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,080 is that our Freedom Caucus members are just like the folks up here in Congress. 127 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,200 You can punish them all day long, but that will only make them 128 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,519 stronger. And I know the week that we're recording, this is the last 129 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:31,399 week of the Missouri session and the issue of initiative petition reform, and it 130 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,279 has been a big issue that the Freedom Cock has been trying to get done 131 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:39,360 since really the beginning of the session, and leadership, particularly in the Senate, 132 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:43,159 has been very resistant to that. Do you have any updates about what's 133 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,840 been going on there if you think they're going to get that done by the 134 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,679 time session ends this week? Yeah. So when people hear initiative petition reformed, 135 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,799 they're like, I don't know what that is, and I don't care. 136 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:56,000 It's not taxes or abortion or spending or anything like that. But it's 137 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,960 actually a big deal in Missouri. Basically, the left, with their very 138 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,679 deep pockets, they know that they can't undo abortion bands. They know that 139 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:13,480 they can't raise the minimum wage. They know they can't pass ring choice voting 140 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:18,559 through the legislature because it's too red, even with a bunch of fake Republicans 141 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,120 there, they know they can't pass that stuff. So they want to pass 142 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:28,360 it through the ballot initiative process so that they can put it on the ballot. 143 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:35,039 And they've done that in Ohio, They've done that all over the place, 144 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:41,240 and our Freedom Caucus said, well, we want to protect the voters 145 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,440 right to vote on this stuff, but the way that things get on the 146 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,919 ballot is not fair. The left will just go into very liberal cities like 147 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:56,159 Saint Louis or Kansas City and get the necessary signatures to get something on the 148 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:00,159 ballot, and our folks are saying, well, what about the rest of 149 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,200 the state. You need to have some signatures and proportionally throughout the state in 150 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:09,559 order to get something on the ballot. This is a GOP priority of the 151 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:16,399 state. Even the fake Republicans like Caleb Browdon and Cindy O'Laughlin. They have 152 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:22,080 said over and over that this is a priority, but it's just lip service 153 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:26,279 and they've never done anything about it. Well after the Missouri Freedom Caucus was 154 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,639 launched, they started flexing their muscles saying, no, we are going to 155 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,879 pass this. This is a priority of ours. Our party has agreed that 156 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:37,480 this is a big deal, so let's do it. And they basically said 157 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:41,440 no, and so our Freedom Caucus filibustered on and on and on. Most 158 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:45,879 recently, they had a forty one hour filibuster. And this is a real 159 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:48,840 life filibuster, not like what you see in the US Senate. They're actually 160 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:54,000 standing, they're speaking, they're reading from the Bible. They're doing everything to 161 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,440 just gum up the works. And they set the state record for the longest 162 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:05,360 filibuster forty one hours. It concluded at three thirty am. They concluded the 163 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:11,120 filibuster with a deal with leadership that it would get taken up this week. 164 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,519 And it remains to be seen. Like leadership, they don't want to be 165 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:24,559 seen as breaking their promise, but they are trying every little ticky tack thing 166 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:30,120 that they can to try to undermine it. And so we'll find out by 167 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:33,240 the end of well the seventeenth I yess it is. We'll find out by 168 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:39,320 then if it passes or not. 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Yeah, and again, the states we're talking about, they're 186 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:03,919 not like closely contested, considered battleground states. These like South Carolina, Missouri. 187 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,440 These are deep red states where you have all Republicans statewide elected officials. 188 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,360 And yet the problems that you're having is like if you're fighting another party, 189 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:16,519 and in many ways you are fighting it a completely different party, because, 190 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:22,159 as you've been talking about, the establishment has just become so entrenched. They're 191 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,799 so used to not having to answer to anyone, and that's just allowed them 192 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,519 to essentially glide by by doing the bare minimum if that, and kind of 193 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,759 advance these what we would consider liberal leftist policies under the guise of essentially being 194 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:37,919 Republicans. Yeah, I mean the UNI Party in any red state, their 195 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,519 number one job is to carry water for the special interests and move the money 196 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,879 to where it needs to go to pay them off. And the best example 197 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:54,000 I give is in Wyoming. It's just ridiculous. I mean, the Wyoming 198 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,080 is technically the most red state in the Union. It's brick red. Trump 199 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,679 won more there in any other state. The Wyoming House has fifty seven Republicans, 200 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,080 it's only five Democrats. I mean, think about that. Fifty seven 201 00:16:08,159 --> 00:16:14,559 to five like that, that's not a supermajority, that's like an ultra platinum 202 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:19,759 gold supermajority. And yet they can't pass school choice, they can't ban transgender 203 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:22,519 surgeries on minors, they can't do all sorts of stuff. And it goes 204 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:26,960 back to my previous point, which is that there are a lot of liberal 205 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,879 Democrats who put in R after their name and deceive voters. And so if 206 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:34,559 you look at the fifty seven to five, when you actually look at their 207 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:41,840 voting records, it's twenty six conservatives to thirty six liberals. So liberals are 208 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,399 in charge of the state legislature in the reddest state in the Union. And 209 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,919 I'd like to say that that's an anomaly in Wyoming's just different. But it's 210 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:55,720 happening in South Carolina. Like we mentioned, it's happening in Wyoming, it's 211 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:02,200 happening in Illinois, it's happening in Montana to a varying degree. And it 212 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:06,599 used to happen in Louisiana until we got a Louisiana Freedom Caucus there, and 213 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:12,240 they've turned things completely around down there, and I believe that it's one of 214 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:19,039 the most underreported stories Louisiana is because they now have a fairly conservative governor and 215 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:26,839 Jeff Landry. They have a full throttled, well oiled Louisiana Freedom Caucus that's 216 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,799 on the same page as the governor, and they're passing conservative policies left and 217 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,480 right down there, and so I think they could take a run at Florida 218 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:40,799 for being the most conservative state. And it's great to finally see that happen 219 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,440 in Louisiana. I believe the constitutional amendment that was recently passed banning what we 220 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,559 call Zuckbux, the private election funding that was spearheaded by a member of the 221 00:17:49,559 --> 00:17:55,359 Freedom Focus, wasn't it Yeah? And we passed that. We closed the 222 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:03,519 primaries in Louisiana, unfortunately just for Congress. But the US Senator down there, 223 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:07,079 Bill Cassidy, Big Rhino, his days are number now, I think 224 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,400 because if he's going to run for reelection in twenty six, I believe he's 225 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,839 going to have to be in a closed primary rather than the jungle primary that 226 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,680 they used to have where Republicans and Democrats are run together on the same ballot. 227 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:25,400 So we were able, they were able to pass that. They're passing 228 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:32,000 all kinds of labor union reforms down there, no paycheck protection or card check 229 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,839 or pay tech protection. They're doing all sorts of stuff. They're trying to 230 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:40,920 pass school choice. They're ramming through bills left and right banning transgender surgeries on 231 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,839 minors, which got vetoed by the Democrat governor last year. It's really fun 232 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:52,119 to see. And you mentioned Wyoming earlier. I know that this pass session 233 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:56,799 was a would consider to be like non legislative budget session, which means like 234 00:18:56,079 --> 00:19:03,359 any non budgetary items bills require a two thirds majority to kind of bring to 235 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,079 the floor like bring up for consideration. And as you mentioned, there are 236 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:11,000 only five Democrats in the House, and so you'd expect like, oh, 237 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:15,200 we can get a lot of priorities done. I know the Secretary of State 238 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,759 there, Republican Chuck Gray, he requested that the legislature pass a Zuckbus ban 239 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,119 ahead of the twenty twenty four election, And for our listeners, just as 240 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,200 a recap, during the twenty twenty election, you had Mark Zuckerberg pour hundreds 241 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:33,119 of millions of dollars into left wing nonprofits which basically funneled these moneys into local 242 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,559 election offices to push Democrat backed voting policies. Of course, most of that 243 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:41,880 went to Democrat municipalities, making it a Democrat get out the vote operation. 244 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,079 And so Chuck Gray said, hey, can we get this done ahead of 245 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:48,839 the twenty twenty four election to make sure this doesn't happen in Wyoming, And 246 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:53,279 of course it goes to the legislature and it goes to committee, and basically 247 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:57,839 what ended up happening as a member of the committee introduced emotion to basically kill 248 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:03,039 it, and he tacitly admitted that he was doing this in retaliation for what 249 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,400 the Freedom Caucus was doing and kind of stopping a lot of the bloated spending 250 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,279 that was going on. So it's just remarkable that even in a state like 251 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:18,640 Wyoming, you still can't even get the most basic of conservative policies passes because 252 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,720 of this gridlock that's instituted by the establishment. Yeah. And the good news 253 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,079 though, is that the tide is turning. Their liberal speaker announced his retirement 254 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:33,119 because I think the heat was just too much for him. A lot of 255 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:38,519 his lieutenants are either running for the state senator or retiring as well. And 256 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:44,640 like I said, instead of fifty seven to five, it's twenty six Conservatives 257 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,039 to thirty six liberals. All the Conservatives have to do is pick up five 258 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:53,279 seats and then they're in charge of the Wyoming House and their primaries are coming 259 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,359 up in August, and I think they've got a real shot at doing it. 260 00:20:57,319 --> 00:21:03,480 And it's only because the Wyoming Freedom Caucus has been very vocal and very 261 00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:10,279 loud about what they've been doing and educating the voters, because like I said, 262 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,160 you know, most people don't know who their state rep is or their 263 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,799 state senator. But now they're finally seeing that, hey, there's that Freedom 264 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:21,480 Caucus in DC. That's really awesome. I just learned that we have one 265 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:23,920 in Wyoming, and now they're like, now we have somebody to fight for 266 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,359 and somebody to support, and so I think we've got to win that are 267 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,599 back in Wyoming, and I think we could be successful. But even if 268 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:38,599 we aren't, the fact that we're just exposing them and forcing them to defend 269 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:44,440 their lousy policies is almost a victory in and of itself. And that's precisely 270 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,079 what we're trying to do. And it's something that I say all the time, 271 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:49,119 is that when we win, we win, and when we lose, 272 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:52,720 we kind of win too. But we are running out of time. I 273 00:21:52,720 --> 00:22:00,559 mean, the countries in dire straits right now, and I think that because 274 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:03,559 of the polarization in DC, I don't think that if we're going to win 275 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,759 back this country, we're going to be able to do it in d C. 276 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,039 I mean, we need the House Freedom Caucus for sure, to to 277 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,440 be the last line of defense in Congress. But I think if we're going 278 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,599 to take back this country, we've got to do at the same level. 279 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:22,200 And our solution is to create freedom caucuses in the States to do that. 280 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,319 Yeah, and I think you guys have done a really good job, you 281 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:27,480 know, raising awareness, and you guys you mentioned, you know, making 282 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:32,519 noise about it, and I think that's the biggest key because everyday Americans and 283 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:33,880 I'm not saying this, you know, to knock them or anything. But 284 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,119 they have lives, they have jobs, they have you know, family stuff 285 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,160 going on, so they don't have necessarily the bandwidth to pay attention to every 286 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,400 single thing. But I think when you make noise about issues going on in 287 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,960 you know, their state or local government, it really does make them more 288 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,880 aware and more likely to get involved. Because the media apparatus, particularly around 289 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,359 DC, is so center focused on what's going on in Washington and so that's 290 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,000 what most people are focused on. And meanwhile, you have your state government 291 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:06,880 where you have the power to essentially push back against a lot of the federal 292 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,160 tyranny that's been happening in recent years. But you know that doesn't really necessarily 293 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,559 that's not the first thing most people think of when they think of government. 294 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:17,880 And I think you guys have done a really great job about focusing in on 295 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,440 these state and local issues and giving people that idea and planting the seed that, 296 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,839 oh, I do have the power to push back. There is a 297 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,759 mechanism for me to use to actually have a voice in my government. Yeah, 298 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:33,799 And it's kind of weird because you know, inflation is obviously a big 299 00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:38,640 problem and that's affecting everybody's pocketbook. The war in Ukraine is a big deal, 300 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:45,519 but people don't quite understand how that's impacting their family specifically. But when 301 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:52,759 you look at it, what happens in the state capitals directly affects everybody's lives, 302 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,640 especially families. If you think about it, what's happening with the school 303 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:03,160 choice movement, when you think about, you know, the gender identity garbage 304 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,240 that's being taught in our schools, when you think about the transgender ban on 305 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,480 surgeries, you know, and then you've got abortion is now a state issue 306 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:18,680 because of the Dobs decision. And then just think about all the COVID mandates 307 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:25,480 that occurred a couple of years ago that was because of state government doing that 308 00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:29,680 stuff. And so when you think about the things that directly affect you and 309 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:36,920 your family, it's happening in the state capitals, and people don't quite recognize 310 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,079 that. And so we're just trying to bring awareness to that fact, telling 311 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,279 people you have to pay attention about what's going on in your state capital. 312 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,880 You have to find out who your state rep is, who your state senator 313 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,839 is. You have to find out if there's a freedom caucusing in your state, 314 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:53,880 and if there is, you should support them and if you don't have 315 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,680 a freedom Caucus in your state, you should call up your state rep and 316 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,640 say, why aren't you part of a state freedom caucus and just force those 317 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:11,160 conversations so that when they meet in those state legislatures and make very big decisions 318 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,119 on the issues we just talked about, you now are making them accountable for 319 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,119 it. And even in states like Florida, where you have a solid governor 320 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:25,119 who is advancing conservative priorities on a regular basis, there's no freedom Caucus in 321 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,279 Florida because I think most people are like, oh, well, we have 322 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:30,400 DeSantis and a yes, he's doing all the work, So why do we 323 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,200 even need a Florida Freedom Caucus? But Rona Santis is not going to be 324 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,640 governor of Florida forever. And I think the advantage and the really good thing 325 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,240 about the state Freedom Couse network is you guys create that permanent infrastructure that goes 326 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:47,559 beyond a governor or a House speaker majority leader in the Senate, that it's 327 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:52,640 always going to be there to push back against any funny business that leadership is 328 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,880 trying to pass. Yeah. Well, I mean the Freedom Caucus brand is 329 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,440 a great brand. I mean, I think it's one of the best in 330 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,960 politics. And so if somebody knows that there is a State Freedom Caucus there, 331 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,039 it's going to live in perpetuity. I mean, it's members are going 332 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:15,039 to retire, run for another office, get turned out, do all sorts 333 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:19,720 of things, but the institution itself, the State Freedom Caucus. Our hope 334 00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:26,759 is that these live in perpetuity to always be that conservative north star that the 335 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,359 voters can look to. And you're right about Florida. I mean, it 336 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,519 pains me that we don't have one there because DeSantis isn't going to be there 337 00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:41,759 forever. The lawmakers down there are not as conservative as people think. They 338 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:47,680 had been following him just because he's such a powerful force. But that's going 339 00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,319 to end if it hasn't kind of already, and I think that there are 340 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,680 some signs that it has. And so Florida desperately needs one, and there 341 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:02,400 are countless other states that absolutely should have one and they don't because of this 342 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:06,720 problem we keep talking about, which is that liberal Republicans put in R after 343 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:10,680 their name, get elected and then behave like liberal Democrats. It is such 344 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,799 a problem happening in so many states that we've got to combat it and we've 345 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:18,079 got to do it now. And you mentioned being that north star, and 346 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:21,279 I think a lot of it boils down to a leadership problem. If you 347 00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:25,240 don't have that strong leadership there, then nothing's really going to get done. 348 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,200 You know, the legislators in Florida, you know, you said, they're 349 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,640 not as conservative as what most people think they are, and they're really just 350 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,480 going along with the Santis because he has kind of taken the reins and if 351 00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:37,319 you go against him, then it makes it look like you're siding with the 352 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:42,359 Democrats, which in a lot of cases they are. But just having that 353 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,759 leadership is so key, and I think that's what's so lacking, not it's 354 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,200 just at the state level, but the national level as well as a strong 355 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,279 leadership to advance conservative policies, to talk about them in a common sense way, 356 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,200 to relate them to voters. And I think members of the Freedom Caucuss 357 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,599 have done a really good job kind of exposing the fallacies and the GPS establishment, 358 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,319 not just not advancing conservative policies, but just kind of sitting back and 359 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,920 watching the country burn in front of them. Yeah, there is a structural 360 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,559 problem to this too, which is that most people don't know but the state 361 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,200 lawmakers are part time for the most part. There's places like Pennsylvania and California 362 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:22,519 and maybe one or two others they're year round. But like in Wyoming, 363 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,960 you know, they're in session for two months and then for the other ten 364 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:33,279 months they're back home with their full time job and their families. But think 365 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,400 about it. I mean, the governor in Wyoming's full time year round, 366 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:42,319 The lobbyists are full time year round. The leadership, the woke agencies that 367 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,640 run government, they're all full time. And so who's mind in the store 368 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:56,319 basically when the session is out nobody. And so what we'd say is that 369 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,160 we want to help lawmakers go from part time lawmakers to a full time freedom 370 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,640 caucus. So some of our best work has been out of session. The 371 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:11,119 South Carolina Freedom Caucus, they shut down a transgender clinic just by exposing it, 372 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,920 and there was no bill to be considered, there was no vote to 373 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,799 be taken. They just made a lot of noise out of session. And 374 00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:22,559 so the Medical University of South Carolina shut down their transgender clinic and fired their 375 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,119 lead doctor just because of the pressure they got from the South Carolina Freedom Caucus. 376 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,640 And in Illinois, we have an Illinois Freedom Caucus, believe it or 377 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,279 not, deep blue seat, a deep blue state, and they were able 378 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:38,880 to shut down an abortion clinic before it could even open because they were able 379 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,559 to expose it and alert the voters about what was happening. And they did 380 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:48,839 that out of session. In Wyoming, we found out that the Department of 381 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Corrections in their bylaws allowed biological men to be housed in the female prison. 382 00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,039 The Wyoming Freedom Caucus put out a press statement saying, what what is this 383 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,799 craziness? And within twenty four hours they changed their policy. This was all 384 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:10,279 done out of session and it was just because conservative lawmakers raised the flag and 385 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:14,640 said, wait, this is really bad, let's make some change. And 386 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440 so that's the really exciting part. I mean, when we got involved in 387 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,200 this, we knew that there would be some opportunities out of session, but 388 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,279 nothing like we've seen. And so we are really bringing the heat to the 389 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,680 establishment. In the fifty states or in the eleven states were in now but 390 00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:36,400 year round, just three hundred and sixty five days to twenty four to seven, 391 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:40,119 just all the time. And that's one of the best choice of this 392 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,119 job. And you said, you're in eleven states. What states would you 393 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,599 say are looking good for establishing new state freedom caucuses. I know in Texas 394 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,839 recently they just had their primaries and a lot of incumbents went down or headed 395 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,400 to runoffs, and that was partially, I think due to involvement by the 396 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,240 Governor Greg Abbott, who kind of stepped in and, you know, said, 397 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,240 oh, you're not going to pass school choice, well, then we're 398 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,519 going to endorse you your opponent. So what states are looking fairly good for 399 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,079 new freedom I have to be a little bit coy on that, just because 400 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:17,279 of the confidential conversations I'm having with various lawmakers. But our hope is that 401 00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:23,559 we can get three or four more this year, and they're not necessarily the 402 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,680 states you think about. I do want to talk about Texas, though, 403 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:37,200 because I think it's sort of it's a it's a it's a sign of how 404 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:42,519 things are changing. You're right that. I mean, we did not have 405 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:49,759 a Texas Freedom Caucus there because there weren't enough conservatives, but the governor decided 406 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:57,039 to pick a fight on the school choice and the Texas House Speaker. This 407 00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,400 is another one of those crazy things, and it reinforces my view that the 408 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:07,599 fifty swamps are worse than DC. But the Texas Speaker indoor put Democrats as 409 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:13,559 committee chairs. Like the Texas House is fully Republican, but he thought it 410 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,640 would be a good idea to have Democrats as committee chairs. And so when 411 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,319 you wonder why school choice hasn't passed in Texas, it's because until recently, 412 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:27,480 a Democrat was in charge of the Education Committee. When you wonder why business 413 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,119 regulations aren't being slashed left and right, it's because a Democrat was in charge 414 00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:37,400 of the REGs Committee or the Business and Commerce Committee, and so exposing that 415 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:45,599 is absolutely vital. And what the governor has done, the Lieutenant Governor, 416 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:52,920 the AG, a small handful of conservative lawmakers like Brian Harrison and Tony Tenderholt. 417 00:32:52,160 --> 00:33:00,000 They've absolutely exposed it. And they just wiped the rhinos in the Prime 418 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:05,079 Mary's in March, and they do have some runoffs coming up in late May 419 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,160 to kind of finalize a lot of the races, and including the House Speaker 420 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,240 who's fighting for his life and I believe will likely lose later this month. 421 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:22,039 But if all of that happens in Texas, you're going to see rhinos all 422 00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:29,200 across the country. Rethink what they're doing. And they'll whine about it, 423 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,799 they'll fight about it, but at some point they're going to have to accommodate 424 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:37,559 and say, you know, I'm a fake Republican. I'm a liberal Democrat 425 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:38,960 with an R after my name. But if I want to keep staying in 426 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,599 office, I may have to, you know, start pushing some conservative policies 427 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,119 even though I don't agree with them. But you're seeing the governor in Iowa 428 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,480 fight against incumbents on school choice. You're seeing a lot of fake Republicans side 429 00:33:55,519 --> 00:34:01,240 with the Democrats in Ohio and getting penalized for it. Like, you're starting 430 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:06,759 to see this more and more, and I think the tide is definitely in 431 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,079 our favor. And so and then you kind of touched on this a little 432 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:15,000 bit earlier. You know, how can people support you? What's the best 433 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,199 way that they can go about getting a freedom caucus in their own state. 434 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,880 Is there a certain person with your organization they can reach out to, or 435 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:22,920 you know, just reaching out to different lawmakers in the legislature. Yeah, 436 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,119 great question. So go to Statefreedomcaucus dot org. We've got a map there 437 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,960 that shows where we have a freedom caucus. If you are fortunate enough to 438 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,280 live in a state that has a Freedom Caucus, I would absolutely encourage you 439 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,840 to reach out to one of the members and just get plugged in. Each 440 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:45,280 one of our freedom caucuses has a newsletter, so you can at least get 441 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,480 an update every once in a while, but I would go the extra mile 442 00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:52,239 even for them that I would find out who your state Rep is and ask 443 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,800 them why they are or aren't in the Freedom Caucus. Just get more involved 444 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,239 about what's going on in your state. If you live in a state that 445 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,880 doesn't have one, then you just got to like find out why. And 446 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,800 just the first thing is just called your state Rep and state Senator and say 447 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:16,440 what's going on there. It's no longer an excuse for state Rep to say, 448 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,079 oh, I didn't know about this, and you know, oh that's 449 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:23,880 interesting, maybe I'll look into it. We have reached out to every state 450 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,400 and made ourselves available and say if you're interested in this, come talk to 451 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,239 us, and we're happy to help. There are some states, I'll mention 452 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:42,199 this quickly. There are some states like Alabama and Tennessee that are so red 453 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,920 that you would think you would think that they could start a freedom caucus. 454 00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:52,320 But We've talked to folks there, and the institutional rot is so bad that 455 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:59,920 we can't cobble together even two or three lawmakers in Tennessee and Alabama because they 456 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:06,920 are so bad and so so for the listeners if they encounter, you know, 457 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,199 if they live in Tennessee or Alabama, they've got a tough task in 458 00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:15,559 front of them to try and change things. But you know, in Virginia, 459 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:23,840 Colorado, you know, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, even North Dakota, 460 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,719 there are still plenty of opportunities for us to do something. And I'll 461 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:35,840 tell you what, I think New England has a real shot at getting a 462 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,280 few freedom causes. I think that there's some really good folks in Rhode Island. 463 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:44,039 I think there's some in Maine. New Hampshire's got a great system up 464 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:46,599 there. It's a little bit wacky because they've got so many state reps up 465 00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:52,239 there, but there's a great opportunity there. I firmly believe we'll be in 466 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,320 more states in New England than in places like Tennessee and Alabama. But all 467 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,880 that is to say, go to our upside at Statefreedomcocus dot org. We've 468 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,159 got our own newsletter find out what's going on in your state and you can 469 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,119 find out more. Yeah, it's a great newsletter. I subscribe to it. 470 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:13,559 Yeah, gives a lot of great information. So yeah, you guys 471 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,480 again, you guys have been doing great work. I'm very excited to see 472 00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,400 what you guys have planned for the future. And best of luck to you. 473 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,880 Yeah. Let me add two more things. We're pretty vocal on Twitter. 474 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:30,199 I my handle is at Andy Roth and you can follow me on there. 475 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,320 But also our director of communications, Greg Price, is a is a 476 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,920 Twitter master. He's got hundreds of thousands of followers. I think his handle 477 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:45,079 is Greg underscore Price at eleven. So Greg Price is his name. Greg 478 00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:49,800 underscore Price eleven is his Twitter handle, So follow him on there as well. 479 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,599 Yeah, Greg's a great follow Whenever something happens in the political world, 480 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:57,280 it's like someone says something stupid, I just go to Greg's Twitter because I 481 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,920 know I'm going to find the video there. Well, and that's the thing 482 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,880 is these state fights, these little skirmishes that happen all over the country. 483 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960 Gregg's job is to try and take those little fights and blow them up into 484 00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:13,679 national stories. And I know the Federalist has done a great job at helping 485 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,920 us expose that as well. So he's a great asset and he's a key 486 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,000 part of what we do. Awesome. Yeah, and thank you again so 487 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,880 much for being on the podcast. And you've been listening to another edition of 488 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,320 the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Sean Fleetwood. We'll be back with more soon. 489 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:44,400 Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray.