WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:08.720 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:33.479 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's get it started. 3 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.560 Hour number three. Here on a game day edition of Coffee and Company, 4 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:41.479 fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. It is game day for the 5 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:47.759 Ville Louisville's TBT team, and they'll take on Sideline Cancer coming up at seven 6 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:51.119 o'clock. It's on FS one if you want to watch it on television, 7 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:55.799 but I would encourage you to go out and enjoy the nostalgia that you will 8 00:00:55.799 --> 00:01:00.320 certainly get from being back in Freedom Hall, which I've not been to watch 9 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.719 a basketball game at Freedom Hall. I mean, I think it was the 10 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:08.840 two thousand and nine season, which I guess was actually no, the last 11 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.239 year of Freedom Hall was two thousand and nine twenty ten, and I don't 12 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:15.760 think I went to a game that year. And I know the year before 13 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.879 that that was the year they were really good. I went to a couple 14 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:23.319 of different games. But yeah, that alone is just nostalgic. Because I've 15 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:29.280 been in Freedom Hall since then a couple times for a concert, I think, 16 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:33.280 which is totally different. And then when I walk through there to get 17 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.640 like to when you park at the State Fair and make your way out towards 18 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:38.719 the front, like you walk through Freedom Hall. But I hadn't been in 19 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.319 there for basketball in a long time. And then to see a bunch of 20 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:46.799 former players, and in a weird way, there's even further you know, 21 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:49.760 I wouldn't call it nostalgia, but knowing that a lot of the guys that 22 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.400 played at Louisville that are playing, you know, in this event for this 23 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.159 team did not play at Freedom Hall because they're too young. I mean, 24 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.760 I feel like the young centers around for a while, but I don't know. 25 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:05.959 Just to know that, like you know, Russ never played in Freedom 26 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:09.240 Hall is kind of crazy to me. So again, I would encourage you 27 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.120 to go out there and take it all in. I don't know if this 28 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.759 is gonna get you to pull the trigger and actually purchase tickets and go. 29 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:21.719 But they do sell bush light, I was, I mean a lot of 30 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:23.639 places you can't get bush light at a restaurant, you can't get bush light 31 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:29.319 on draft nearly anywhere. Heck, I mean most places who sell bush light, 32 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.639 you know, in stores, I mean they're only giving you the thirty 33 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.039 rack like just cans, which, hey, it's fine, but you know, 34 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.599 I like to mix it up sometimes. If I can get an aluminum 35 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:40.039 bottle, ig go aluminumottle, if I can find a glass bottle, or 36 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:45.479 go glass bottle. But they had had some ice cold bush light on hand 37 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:46.439 Freedom Haul, and it made me very happy. I mean, it was 38 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.599 just it was the best day all around for me to say, though you 39 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.879 were though I don't know if that's why, but you know, we can 40 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.360 we can choose to believe that's the reason they had bush light available. I 41 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:58.560 didn't see noybody else drinking it, but that's okay. It means more for 42 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.039 me. So yeah, looking forward to it. Hopefully they can keep this 43 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:04.919 role or keep you I say, keep this run going. I mean, 44 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.639 I've only played one game, and it was closer than most of us would 45 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.960 have expected. But didn't you say Indiana John had a similar situation, not 46 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.639 to where you felt like they were going to lose, but they were not, 47 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.159 I guess, dominating the way you would have expected it Against Valpo. 48 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.120 Yeah, they just couldn't put them away. It was a lot closer of 49 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:20.400 a game when it came down to the elon ending, and I think They 50 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.919 ended up winning maybe by nine or ten points something like that, but it 51 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.199 was a lot closer throughout the majority of the game than it should have been. 52 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.400 Yeah, Louisville, I mean they were in a fight. I felt 53 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:34.960 like there were a couple of moments for Bellerman to where they could potentially not 54 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.360 run them out of a gym. I don't think that was going to happen, 55 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.000 but make it to where it was going to be really hard to see 56 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:43.560 them finding a way to come back and win. Now, luckily for Louisville, 57 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.840 it you know there it wasn't as if they got to the elam ending 58 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:51.080 and really turned it up. They had such a good run going in the 59 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.599 second half that made it to where once you got to the under four stoppage 60 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:58.280 for the elam ending, you know they were in position with a good enough 61 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:01.000 lead to where they had some cushion. But I want to give Bellerman that 62 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:05.240 team United a lot of props man, because they came out, they played 63 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:10.400 hard, they made shots, they competed, and they had a good game 64 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:15.919 plan. They did not want to run. And look that's something that is 65 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:17.879 not a knock on you know, their age or anything. Although these guys 66 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:23.120 for Bellerman. Not all of them, but I mean some of them are 67 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:27.199 probably close to or maybe older than some of the Louisville guys. And it's 68 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.560 just weird for me to call these guys old whenever. You know, I'm 69 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.680 older than all of them. So and you know I remember them playing, 70 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.480 but technically for this event. And if you consider, you know, there's 71 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:39.160 some dudes that are playing in this that just got out of college this past 72 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.560 year or the year before. They are on the older side comparatively speaking. 73 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:47.639 However, even if you would have played Louisville and Bellerman in twenty twelve when 74 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.920 all these guys were playing, or thirteen whenever it was, you still would 75 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:54.279 have seen a Bellerman team not want to run, you know what I mean. 76 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:55.959 So I don't say that dact like all there are a bunch of old 77 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:57.680 dudes, they can't do it. In fact, I thought at times some 78 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.600 of these guys for Bellerman looked like they were in better shape than the Louisville 79 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.600 guys, but they knew their best chance of beating a team like the Ville 80 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:08.319 that has Mandres, Haraldsonano, Mianwaku, Russ Smith, Paydeon, Siva David 81 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.600 Johnson their best bet is to have the game played in the half court setting, 82 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.639 and they did that and it worked. They were knocking down shots, 83 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.079 they were tough on the glass. I actually thought at times they just outworked 84 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.600 them. Well. They made seven of thirteen threes in the first half, 85 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:28.519 which is why you saw them go into the halftime break with a decent lead, 86 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.600 and then slowly but surely louisvill started shipping away at that and was able 87 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.839 to pull off the victories seventy nine to seventy. I was really happy for 88 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:40.079 Chris Jones to have that moment where he First of all, I'm happy he's 89 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.519 playing for this team, and also I'm really happy that he was able to 90 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.040 knock down that game winner, and he had a good game, and he 91 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:47.439 was a good addition. There's no doubt when it comes to bench production, 92 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.079 he was the best player off the bench. In fact, he outplayed a 93 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:55.319 lot of the guys who started. Chris had fourteen points in twenty three minutes, 94 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:59.319 made four of nine shots, made all six free throws, and had 95 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:04.399 a couple of steel So yeah, he was very much needed on Saturday afternoon, 96 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:09.800 and Chris was somebody that I think, obviously, unfortunately this is where 97 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:15.519 there should be some accountability for people who falsely accused those of doing something heinous. 98 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:19.519 But Chris was accused and charged of sexual assault whenever his career came to 99 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.000 an end at Louisville. And I hate to say this, but I do 100 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.439 think there's a lot of people who when they think of Chris Jones, they 101 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.079 think of that because that's not something that typically happens. And I think most 102 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.199 people who think of that are aware that he was proven to be innocent, 103 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:34.720 because it was proven that he was not even there when the alleged incident took 104 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:40.120 place. But the fact that that's still something that people think of when they 105 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.800 think of him here is awful for him. Now, he had some other 106 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.519 stuff going on to where he had, you know, kind of become a 107 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:47.199 pain in the asked to Rick Patino, and there's a high standard when you 108 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:50.920 play for Rick Patino as far as everything, I mean everything, and he 109 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.920 wasn't living up to that. So you know, he was getting himself in 110 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:58.519 a little bit of trouble, but it wasn't trouble like what you you found 111 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:00.120 out about when he got arrested. I mean, and again that ended up 112 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.439 not being something that happened so I'm happy that he's playing for this team and 113 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:11.519 had that moment because he was somebody that I remember interviewing him whenever he decided 114 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:14.000 to come to Louisville after his stint at JUCO. He was one of the 115 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.720 best players in the country at Northwest Junior College and he actually played for Steve 116 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:23.720 Forbes, who's now now the head coach at Wake Forest. So Chris was 117 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:28.759 really really appreciative of being able to play Louisville like he was somebody that you 118 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.279 know, a lot of his teammates really liked him. I mean, he 119 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:38.360 was he seemed like somebody that embraced what he was walking into, meaning, 120 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:41.399 this is a dude joining a team that just won a national championship and now 121 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.920 he's going to be, you know, one of the top guys getting minutes 122 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.519 for them. And he was, you know, he was great, you 123 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:47.240 know, as a player. I mean, he wasn an elite by any 124 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.920 means, but he was a good player. And you know, I don't 125 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:53.600 think anything that happens in the TBT is going to, you know, change 126 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:56.759 how people kind of view his legacy, and I'm not saying that it should, 127 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:01.319 but he always appreciated Louisville and the fans, and you know, I 128 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.519 think last year he wanted to play for this team and it just didn't didn't 129 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.639 work out. They didn't have the didn't have spot for him. Well then 130 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.360 he ended up playing for a different team and he had a hell of a 131 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.240 game against Louisville and they had a lot of success. And I think it 132 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.399 made sense that, you know, he proved to whoever's putting this roster together, 133 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.720 who with the GM, is Hey, this guy is somebody we should 134 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:22.800 add if he can give us that kind of work like he did. I 135 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.879 think Chris had like twenty something points when he played him last year, so 136 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.959 he was a good addition, and again I was happy for him. Peyton 137 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.799 siva twenty three minutes and did not do a whole lot as far as scoring. 138 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.639 Only took four shots. He had four points, three rebounds, four 139 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.960 assists, and no turnovers, which is a pretty a pretty efficient line for 140 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.639 Peyton. And then Trees with twenty Trees was not as active as I would 141 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.519 have expected. You know, I don't think he needed to do a whole 142 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.360 lot more than what he did. I mean, he was seven of twelve 143 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.600 from the floor with twenty points. Nine rebounds and you know, it's a 144 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.480 pretty good afternoon for him and Russ. You know, foul trouble really got 145 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:00.759 him. He only he only took eight shots, which is not normal for 146 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.080 us, but he finished with a And then David Johnson, I thought he 147 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:09.480 had a really quiet seventeen points, was six of fifteen and made five of 148 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.039 twelve from three And David is the young buck out here. In fact, 149 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.000 David is substantially younger than the majority of the guys who are getting minutes on 150 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.919 this team at twenty three years old. Although Nanu is a young I mean, 151 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.559 I mean, just double check this. Yeah, Chenano Wanwaku. I 152 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.360 mean he's let's see here now, who's twenty seven years old? Which I 153 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:39.200 remember Patino always talking about nan Who being really young for like a first year 154 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.840 and even in a second year guy in college. I guess he was like 155 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:45.399 a head in school or something. Because nan Who's not played here since two 156 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:50.000 thousand and sixteen, I mean that's eight years ago. Maybe that age is 157 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.879 not correct, but either way, you know, I wish, you know, 158 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:56.399 I wasn't out there coaching, but I would if it was me. 159 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:01.159 And I knew Bellman wanted to slow it down. If you could get him 160 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.480 to speed it up and really take advantage of you know, somebody like David 161 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:07.360 Johnson running the floor with Montrez Harol to throw it too, then I think 162 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.320 that's what she could have done to really, you know, give yourself a 163 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:13.840 big advantage. But Bellerman, to their credit, was was doing a good 164 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.679 job of slowing things down. At that point, I would have said, 165 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.320 look, get Nanu, get tresent position, throw them the ball and let 166 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.799 him go to work. And they didn't. Again, they ended up winning, 167 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.919 So it's okay. But with Nanu. You saw it a little bit 168 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:31.399 with Bellerman, and you may see it tonight with Sideline Cancer Hakka Nanu, 169 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.600 you know, like hack a shack, like fouling him on purpose. So 170 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.559 he has to shoot free throws. And here's the thing about nan who's free 171 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:46.320 throws. Yes, he shoots it granny style underhanded, but he needs to 172 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.360 figure out which one he wants to do consistently. Because Nanu, I mean, 173 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.480 he shot every single free throw underhanded. And I think last year in 174 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.399 the professional league that he played and he shot underhanded. And I don't know 175 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.320 how well he shot as far as percentages, but he's gone. I think 176 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.679 throughout his entire pro career and even his college career, Nan News gone back 177 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.320 and forth, Am I gonna shoot it regular? Am I gonna shoot it 178 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:11.960 underhand? And I feel like you got to? I mean those are you're 179 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:16.360 honestly doing two completely different things. Yes, it's considered a free throw, 180 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.759 but like it's totally different, Like everything involved is different. So I just 181 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.240 feel like not having one that you're gonna stick with makes it to where you're 182 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.799 never really gonna get that much better. To be honest with you, there's 183 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.559 probably not a scenario where na Over becomes this elite free throw shooter, but 184 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.519 I could since when he started struggling at the free throw line, he became 185 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.360 uncomfortable even with the ball. Like there was a play where he had a 186 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.720 decent shot around the rim and missed it. And I think it's because he 187 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:43.960 just tried to get it off so quickly so nobody would foil me. Do 188 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.480 he want to go to the free throw line? And thankfully Nick Mayo was 189 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.679 there to clean up. And you know, he's been a good addition too. 190 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.200 So you know, I don't think they played great. I hope they 191 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.879 got some you know, I don't know if it was rust or if it 192 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:56.240 was nerves or what it is, because again we talked about it earlier, 193 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.240 this whole thing is kind of awkward for the players involved, and I think 194 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.320 it's maybe awkward. It's not the right word for fans because you know, 195 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.639 you're not out there actually playing, but it's impossible to not really get into 196 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.360 it when you're there, especially and you know, go crazy when that fan 197 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.159 that was sitting in front row pulled out the twenty thirteen banner and started waving 198 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.200 it around like that place was nuts for the six thousand people roughly that were 199 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.679 there, like it was an insane atmosphere. It was awesome. So you 200 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.960 know, these players are energized by that, and they also want to win 201 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.759 because they want to win money. But you know, the difficulty in balancing 202 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:37.240 Okay, like this isn't really a U of L thing, but it also 203 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.039 kind of is, like it's just I don't know, it's different, it's 204 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.919 just different, but it's awesome. I love the TBT, always have, 205 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.759 and I love that now we have a team here, hopefully we'll have one 206 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:52.159 every year and hopefully they can make a run. So somebody asked earlier when 207 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.000 they went out last year, so last year they lost the third game, 208 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.600 so a loss tonight would be an earlier exit than a year ago. But 209 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:05.879 for what it's were tonight's opponent, Sideline Cancer. They are the toughest team 210 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.080 left in this region for Louisville if you just base it off of the bracket, 211 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:11.519 which you know, some people, I mean, I'm not sure how 212 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:16.879 they went about. I think Team Diesel got the number one seed because of 213 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.639 Shaq and Team Diesel. Like I mean not saying that like it's a conspiracy, 214 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.799 it's shady, but that team, you know, they didn't I didn't 215 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:28.279 see anybody as far as personnel that I would have expected to be, you 216 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.759 know, worthy of being, you know, the number one seed in this 217 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.320 pod. So they lost to the eight seed, which is Team d r 218 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:41.679 C, which you know, they've got some some names I've heard of. 219 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.840 But to me, this is a good example of this is a good example 220 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:52.120 of guys who don't have Like Bryce Beamer. I'm not sure how many points 221 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.000 he had, but I mean he was somebody when I saw some of the 222 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.639 early parts of that game. He's a six to six wing who can shoot 223 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.399 the hell out of the ball. White guy bald head. He plays for 224 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:07.000 team d r C, who beat who beat beat that team Diesel team with 225 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.519 shack and he just graduated college, like, he just finished college and he 226 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.600 played at Francis Marion University. So you know, clearly he doesn't have the 227 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.279 career act, you know, credentials that some of these other players have. 228 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.440 He didn't play for a big enough school, a big name school like some 229 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.399 of these others have. But you know what, he's fresh out of college, 230 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.279 in great shape and is playing at a high level. So you know, 231 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.080 just because you see a roster full of guys you've never heard of that 232 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.559 played for schools you've never heard of, doesn't necessarily mean you can you know, 233 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.879 you can take them lightly. So again this I got a team d 234 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.000 r C that is the in all honesty, that's the one team I've seen 235 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:48.279 in the entire event that doesn't have anybody that I've ever heard of that played 236 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.399 for any school that I've ever heard of, other than one guy, which 237 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.240 we're gonna get to that in just a second. I just realized who this 238 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.639 guy was. But again, they they they knocked off the number one seed 239 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.840 team Diesels. So you can't take anybody lightly. But for those who haven't 240 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:07.159 heard tonight, sidelined Cancer is expected to have Jack Golkie with them playing in 241 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:11.200 this game. So Jack Golkie, of course is the legend around here who 242 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.080 put together a performance I feel like we'll never see again as far as the 243 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.399 kind of shots he was hitting, the difficulty, I mean, just the 244 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:24.120 weird, the weird way he you know, just moves his body around but 245 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.639 keeps keeps you know, keeps his his upright squared up to where he can 246 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:33.159 get a good look. I mean, Jack Golkie is a legend around here 247 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.000 for what he did to Kentucky ending their season, ending Cala Perry's time in 248 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.240 Lexington. And we had a texture earlier that made that made a you know, 249 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:43.759 asked the question that I think is a fair question, that is, 250 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:46.799 like, do you worry about the karma? Right, Like we we roasted 251 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.919 Kentucky for having Jack Golkie, you know, do what he did in their 252 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.679 season and give him one of the biggest upsets they've ever experienced. But like, 253 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:56.919 maybe he does the same thing to Louisville tonight. Well, first of 254 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:00.799 all, Jack Golkie doing it in this event would not be the same as 255 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.240 him doing it to you in the NAA tournament, but it's still what suck 256 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.879 it would and I would imagine that Kentucky fans will be if they watch. 257 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.879 In fact, there'll be Kentucky fans there. I saw some on Saturday. 258 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:14.320 There'll be some there tonight, like it's never ending, Like it's just what 259 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:19.159 they do. They go to Louisville games and they love it and they loved 260 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.240 that. You know they're there. That's why they were blue, if we're 261 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:27.399 being honest. But Jack Golkie, I mean, you know, him lighting 262 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:32.200 us up would probably be something Kentucky fans would love to see because Col's gone, 263 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:34.240 Like Jack Golkie's still gonna be a sensitive thing for them, but like 264 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.159 their energy and anger for that happening is now toward towards a guy who, 265 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.720 at least for the time being, is considered an op as they say, 266 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:47.919 as the kids say, he's opposition, he's coaching at Arkansas, he's in 267 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:51.279 your league. So yeah, I mean, I don't know what kind of 268 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.159 defense they have planned tonight. I think they did a couple of different things 269 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.320 against Bellerman man a man's own, but don't let him get hot, because 270 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:03.519 we've seen what can happen whenever when he gets he gets going. But back 271 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:08.640 to team DRC. I don't know how I missed this as somebody who you 272 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:11.680 know has looked at these rosters extensively, and you know I really, I 273 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.759 mean I sat around and watched both of the games that took place in the 274 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.519 Lexton yesterday. I watched a good chunk of the Indiana Purdue game, like 275 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:25.920 I love this stuff. So I did not realize that this team DRC that 276 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.799 I just mentioned having mostly guys I've never heard of, but one the one 277 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.759 guy that they have that I have heard of is Darius Washington. The Darius 278 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:41.359 Washington who played for Memphis nineteen years ago. Oh my gosh, when Louisville, 279 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:44.759 I mean, do you need And this is great because you would have 280 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:49.039 no reason to know this as a non Louisville fan and as a is somebody 281 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:53.160 who's a lot younger than me. Darius Washington has one of the all time 282 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:03.240 like choke embarrassing moments in basketball history. So he played at Memphis and he 283 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.000 was only there I think for one season. No, he's there for a 284 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:10.119 couple of seasons, and you know, he's one of the best recruits in 285 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.519 the country. Goes to play for Caliperry and he ended up going pro did 286 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:22.599 he went undrafted? But anyways, Louisville is up I think two points and 287 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:29.400 he gets fouled on a three by Francisco Garcia, which I don't know how 288 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.920 this doesn't come up like as soon as as soon as I google it, 289 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.599 but it doesn't, because it would be great to hear the call of this. 290 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.519 Yeah, let's see, this will probably sound like crap because it's I 291 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.599 mean this again, that was that was nineteen years ago, two thousand and 292 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.720 five. So he goes to the free throw line. Yeah, Louisville is 293 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:53.119 up seventy three to seventy five. He gets fouled as the clock strike zero. 294 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.119 And to be fair to Cisco, he did foul him. Like Francis 295 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.839 Garcia knew as soon as he went up in the air that washed has had 296 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.799 a chance to make contact. He did exactly that. Cisco like clenched his 297 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:07.880 body like trying to not touch him, but it was too late. And 298 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:15.960 I'm watching the replay here, see if the sound is any good. So 299 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:19.440 he's down Louisville. There's no time left. Louisville's up to Darius Washington Junior 300 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:25.799 goes to the line to shoot three free throws. He makes two, and 301 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.079 it's tied. He makes three, the game's over, Memphis wins. It's 302 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:37.720 a freshman for the season. If he hits three in a row. Memphis 303 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:48.599 goes to the NCAA Championship two to go. And what you can't see is 304 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:53.799 him looking over to his bench and telling them it's over. He can't describe 305 00:19:53.839 --> 00:20:07.480 the fresh are here. How about a young Scott Davenport on the bench with 306 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:11.240 Rick Betina. How about a young John Kellaperry coach in Memphis. To tell 307 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:15.079 you right now, but if you'll see a more pressureized situation this year, 308 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:23.880 it was tournament. As we're watching Rightdre, tournament's on the line. I 309 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:29.240 gotta say, nineteen years later, watching that is the first time I've watched 310 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:33.240 it where I felt sad for him because he was so cocky as a player, 311 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.000 always ran his mouth. He played for Memphis and cal and I forgot 312 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.400 that was the Conference USA championship game. Louisville is a top ten team. 313 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.160 They made a Final four run that year, and Memphis needed to win that 314 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.680 to make the tournament, and he missed those free throws. Imagine if the 315 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.359 same thing happened tonight. Well, I doubt he's playing very much at his 316 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:56.960 age. Well, so he plays for Team DRC, Yeah, that would 317 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.519 be in the future. They again, like people kind of pointing or maybe 318 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.680 don't point and laugh. But like, I know, this is not really 319 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:07.680 college basketball. I know this is just I know what this is. But 320 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.039 like it's still fun for us as Louisville basketball fans, and it's basketball fans 321 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.200 in the month of July when nothing's going on. But I'm telling you, 322 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.920 if if he gets a chance to play Louisville again, even though it's the 323 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.880 Ville and it's not the same players or anything like that from nineteen years ago, 324 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.400 that's at least a half assed storyline, is it. Not? Like 325 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.440 that's crazy to me. So I don't know what kind of points he put 326 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:32.319 up or how much he played. You're probably right, John, He's probably 327 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:36.440 not playing a ton But if Lowell advances tonight and they play that team like 328 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.920 Lowell fans are gonna taunt him like it might have I mean, he might 329 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:45.480 still have like psychological damage. I mean, that was a really really talked 330 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.480 about thing for years in college basketball, because you know he was I mean, 331 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.519 I shouldn't say he never recovered, but like that became what he was 332 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:55.240 known for. All right, quick break will come back on the other side, 333 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:57.680 Kate, I can't speak. Take this thing up till six o'clock right 334 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.039 here on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and Company are rolling 335 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:06.640 along here on a Monday afternoon. A reminder. I'm gonna be out next 336 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:11.440 week vacation as we head off to Florida for a little getaway, our annual 337 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.880 family vacation, which we've had a few trips this year, but this is 338 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.759 this is, this is the one we really, we really look forward to, 339 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.359 and it'll be my last bit of vacation that I used. I think 340 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:23.319 I'll have like two days left to burn before the end of the year, 341 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:27.559 which was always the goal. In fact, you know, I never liked 342 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:30.839 being away from the show for a full week. Although you know, I 343 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:34.640 think makes sense to have a week off for family vacation. I don't think 344 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.039 I'm asking too much. In fact, I get a lot of vacation, 345 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.240 which is one of the I mean, one of the great perks of being 346 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.559 an employee here at the Great iHeart Media. I hope my bosses are listening. 347 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.720 But two years ago I had to eat like five days that I didn't 348 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:55.119 use because I didn't you know, I mean, I didn't plan ahead, 349 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:56.240 and I didn't want to take off at the very end of the year, 350 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.000 especially when there was a lot going on, and I hate taking days off 351 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.319 just to take it. So I said, I'm never doing that again. 352 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.680 I'm gonna make sure I utilize every bit of vacation and comp day that I 353 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.359 get. So you know, you'll be in good hands next week. But 354 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:12.559 I'll be back following my trip. And who knows, maybe this Louisville team 355 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:17.680 is still playing in the TVT we'll see. Speaking of the TVT, so 356 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:25.759 the the actual tournament Twitter account just updated this around five o'clock and they've given 357 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:30.200 us the starting lineups for these two teams, and Louisville going with a little 358 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:33.759 bit of a different lineup. Sean Minwaku will come off the bench, Nick 359 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:38.960 Mayo will start. I like that. I like Nanu and Tres playing together, 360 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.880 but I also like, you know, I think as far as keeping 361 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:49.440 guys fresh, I think, you know, it makes sense to when Tresh 362 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.119 has got to get a breather, throw Nanu in there, vice versa. 363 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.640 In same thing you can be said about Nick Mayo. In fact, all 364 00:23:55.640 --> 00:24:00.079 three of these bigs are Tres Mayo and Nanu are all all very different and 365 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.400 it can help me in a variety of ways. But no, it was 366 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:07.680 active. But he's not going to start for Sideline Cancer. H Jack Golkie 367 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.279 is not going to play, which he wasn't here for their game the other 368 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.079 night, So I think it's because he's finishing up Summer League. Didn't Indiana 369 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:17.400 have a player have to do the same thing, Yeah, Miller cop he 370 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:18.920 ended up coming. He played in the second game. Yeah, So I 371 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:22.640 don't know if he couldn't pull it off from like a travel standpoint, maybe 372 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.680 you couldn't get off work because he, you know, maybe looks like a 373 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:27.359 guy who's working a nine to five like everybody else, and just you know, 374 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.599 when he gets off work, he goes and is an assassin, a 375 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:34.599 sniper, knocking down three. He's making you know, fans cry. But 376 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.880 he won't he I don't think he's gonna be here at all, so he 377 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.839 won't play. And their starting lineup, I mean, I'm not going to 378 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.440 give you names of guys that you've never heard, but just looking at Sideline 379 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:48.480 Cancer's stat line from their first game, they rely heavily on their bigs and 380 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.519 they I mean pretty efficient. I mean they were eight of twenty from three 381 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:53.880 point range, which is pretty good. They didn't shoot a ton of them. 382 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:57.839 Uh. And Alonso Verge, if you remember that name, he played 383 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.000 at nebrass and I don't really remember when he came out of college, but 384 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.400 he was a really good player, you know, for Nebraska. And yeah, 385 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.240 he was let's see here in Nebraska. He graduated in twenty twenty two, 386 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:14.960 so he's he's a relative real le heast, relatively a young guy. 387 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.119 Averaged fourteen points a game in all three seasons he played at Nebraska before going 388 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:26.319 pro. And yeah, he's he put up let's see here, pull it 389 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.640 up. He just had it. Yeah, he had twenty seven points for 390 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:30.759 them, so he was the guy that led the way for him. However, 391 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:36.319 you know, they were balanced twenty seven from Alonso Verge. Chris Coffee 392 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:37.599 add at seventeen, the kid from Louisville, which, by the way, 393 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:41.319 I know I talked about him last week, but since he's going to be 394 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.039 an action tonight against this Louisville team, the Ville, I should say he 395 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:47.519 is. He's good, and I bet a lot of people don't know who 396 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:48.759 he is, don't know. He's from Louisville. He played at Seneca High 397 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.839 School, was a known player around here locally, didn't get recruited from what 398 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.000 I know about by big schools. But once he got to Georgetown he developed 399 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:00.400 into a really good player. And I'm talking about Georgetown College here in Kentucky, 400 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:04.480 not Georgetown in the Big East. And he became NAI National Player of 401 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.200 the Year. But that happened I think in twenty twenty, you know, 402 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:12.079 the forgotten season. So you know, with that, he's a guy that 403 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:17.359 didn't get probably the love that you know NAI level, you don't get the 404 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:18.640 same amount of love as you do of course at the highest level of college 405 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.480 basketball. But he's a good player. He's been a good pro since he 406 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:26.240 made the jump to the professional ranks. And he'll dunk on you. I 407 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.559 mean he's he's six seven long, athletic, can rim run. He had 408 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:36.279 seventeen seventeen points for him in their in their first game, so you know, 409 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:40.839 they're a good team. And I'm a little worried. I'm getting nervous. 410 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:42.559 Now. This won't be a loss that will, you know, hit 411 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:48.319 me as tough as a loss will be Whenever Louisville loses a game under Pat 412 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.000 Kelcey. I mean, it's not gonna make me cry, but obviously you 413 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:56.799 know that's different. This isn't Louisville basketball, but it's the closest thing you're 414 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.400 going to get to it, I think, and you know, but I'll 415 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.920 get over it quicker than I will if it's anything else. And because of 416 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.599 just the awkwardness around the whole thing, just that you know, these guys 417 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.000 are here giving us their time. You know, they're not being paid to 418 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.480 play right now. The only way they get paid is if they win the 419 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.400 whole thing. You know, it'd be hard for me to be like super 420 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.079 critical if they play poorly. But again that's also all we know, right, 421 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.279 All we know is to watch Louisville basketball play and be on the edge 422 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.839 of our seat and overanalyze, overreact to everything good or bad because we're crazy 423 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:36.279 about Louisville basketball. And again, this isn't Louisville Cardinal basketball, right, 424 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:40.799 This isn't you know, a Big East game and ACC game. But it's 425 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.160 still a bunch of former players who we love around here, and it's just 426 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.279 hard to kind of balance that. But I think they're going to win the 427 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.799 night, but just being nervous about a game, and maybe not nervous to 428 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.279 where like you know, I'm pacing the room during the commercial breaks. It's 429 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.160 not to that extent, but like, when's the last time you were nervous 430 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.440 about a louisvilleasket game of your lois boll fan? I mean, I think 431 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.599 year one was they were so bad even the year before Kitty got here, 432 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.480 and obviously wasn't close to as bad as you know what we got after that, 433 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.799 But I mean, how do you get nervous when you when you know, 434 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.400 like a really bad loss to a bad team certainly sucks, but when 435 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.359 you know it's always a possibility. In fact, for a while it was 436 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.720 it was more likely than not, like you just kind of get numb to 437 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:33.559 it. But this event has made me feel alive again watching Louisville basketball. 438 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:38.920 That to go along with you know, everything else that is going on with 439 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.880 U of L hoops, with Pat Kelsey, which I'm hoping he's there tonight. 440 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:42.920 I'm not sure if he's gonna be there. Wouldn't shock me if he 441 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:48.160 is, because you know they've I think he's in town. I know he 442 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.640 was recruiting over the weekend and his team was there. You got to see, 443 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:52.720 but they showed a bunch of them on the big screen up there. 444 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.839 So I'm sure if Pat Kelsey's there tonight, they'll, uh, they'll they'll 445 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.160 do it once again. Uh and you know that'll get excited. Jeff Brown 446 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.240 was there, they showed him and everybody got fired up. So yeah, 447 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.920 good stuff. All right. We've also spent a lot of time today not 448 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.119 just talking TVT but talking about the ACC Kickoff, which of course is the 449 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:15.079 ACC's annual media days that's going on in Charlotte. Today was day one. 450 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.720 I don't I haven't heard a whole lot about what was said from the coaches 451 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.640 that are participating today, and usually don't unless they say something, you know, 452 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.000 that'll get him attention, like a like a Mike Gundy talking about how 453 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.799 he's he's done, what his star player did and got arrested for driving under 454 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:32.960 the influence, he's done at a thousand times. Like, I don't think 455 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.319 you're gonna hear an ACEC coach say that, because that's really just a Mike 456 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:40.480 Gundy thing. But the takeaways as of right now are Jim Phillips, you 457 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:45.039 know, not backing down from Clemson and Florida State and stating that they are 458 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.279 going to pursue, you know, fight this legal battle as long as it 459 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.240 takes between those two schools, because they're the ones who are suing the league 460 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.759 trying to get out of the grant of rights. And that's what he should 461 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:56.680 say, right, I'm not gonna be critical when it comes to that. 462 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:03.400 You know. He also talked about how the league is in third place when 463 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.880 it comes to revenue sharing among members, and you know, it could be 464 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.279 worse, it could be fourth. And again, I probably don't need to 465 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.400 throw this disclaimer out there, but I will the acc currently being in this 466 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.119 situation to where they're locked into a certain amount of money to distribute among members 467 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.279 from you know, twenty sixteen till twenty thirty six. That has nothing to 468 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.400 do with Jim Phillips. That's not his fault. There's nothing he can do 469 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.880 about it. He inherited that from Jim Swafford, or not Jim was John 470 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.640 Swafford, the former commissioner, who, by the way, it is his 471 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:37.079 fault. And one of the things Phillips did today was take exception to everybody 472 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.799 bashing Swafford for realizing he screwed this up, like he It was weird, 473 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.920 man. I remember last year he was there as the commissioner. He was 474 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.319 on his way out. You know, they did this big party for like 475 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.680 him and his wife at you know, the night before one of the one 476 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:55.440 of the evenings of the event. And you know, they had like candles 477 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.799 out on a table, a bunch of picture frames of Swafford and his wife. 478 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.559 It was like I walked into a awake of someone. It was really 479 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.839 awkward and weird. But that's what the ACC does, man, And it 480 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.119 is Swafford's fault that this deal is in place the way that it is. 481 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.319 He knew everybody in the ACC himself included, was so desperate to get a 482 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:17.119 network because the Big ten had one, the SEC had one with ESPN, 483 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.119 and they wanted one. So he just put together, you know, he 484 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.519 signed whatever deal ESPN would throw his way, and maybe he took the only 485 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.720 deal that they would give him. But still there's no situation anybody could have 486 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:33.640 thought signing something that cannot be reset for you know, a reassessment as far 487 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.279 as rights and revenue for twenty years, Like that's just not normal. So 488 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:42.440 it is Swafford's fault. But yet Phillips today just you know, got fiery 489 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.079 about people criticizing Swafford and it is like it is his fault. You can 490 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.000 say what you want, but like that that's to me, that's so acc 491 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.359 is to like not realize that, you know, the guy that you worship, 492 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.920 who you believe is like the best ever because he was the commissioner for 493 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.400 what one hundred and twenty years, like he did screw this up, but 494 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.240 yet you know, in their mind he's a good old boy Carolina guy, 495 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.200 like nobody's going to disparage him. When I just think that's it's so perfectly 496 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:15.559 acc. So another thing that was worth mentioning at the ACC kickoff today is 497 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.759 that it's the state of the union from the commissioner. And usually that kind 498 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.599 of stuff's boring and it's not usually something I would expect to talk a whole 499 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.640 lot about on this show or play clips, because I don't find that to 500 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.279 be interesting. Usually it's just, you know, what you'd expect a commissioner 501 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.319 to say as the league is about to start a new football season, And 502 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.480 I'm sure that's what a lot of it was today. But also, let's 503 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.960 not act like there's not a whole lot of expectation for him to kind of 504 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.519 put members' fan bases at ease as far as the future of the league and 505 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.759 all this and that, and yet the ACC network didn't even have it live. 506 00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:50.240 They only had it available on a stream and that didn't work. So 507 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.079 unless you were there and you got the stream to or you got the stream 508 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.880 to work somehow for a little while, you didn't even get to hear what 509 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.880 he had to say. And he did say some good things. It sounds 510 00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:01.480 like like, I mean, we played the sound earlier. You know, 511 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.880 he talked about the non conference strength of schedule for the league. He also 512 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.640 discussed how via the portal, there's some really good returning players in college football, 513 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.440 mentioning Louisvill's Colin Lacy. Nobody is returning to college football after having more 514 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.079 receiving yards last year than Colin Lacey, who transferred him from South Alabama. 515 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:27.000 Cam Ward who was sensational at Washington State. He's now transferred into Miami. 516 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.839 So you know, those are things that you know, you could find that 517 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.240 out without hearing it from the commissioner, But like there needs to be a 518 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.359 little morale boost, right, you need to hear the commissioners say something that 519 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.400 makes you feel good about the league. And I'm convinced personally. For me, 520 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.359 like, I don't know if he can do that. He's just to 521 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.839 me, he's just an empty suit. And you know he's I've never heard 522 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.440 him and felt like this guy's really got it together. Man. He seems 523 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:55.279 like a great leader. But one guy who does cover the ACC it does 524 00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.960 a great job. David Teel. He writes for Richmond. I mean, 525 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:05.880 he's probably been covering the ACC longer than anybody, and you know he he 526 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.760 works alongside the ACC. I wouldn't say they pay him. I wouldn't say 527 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.000 that he's, you know, not objective, because I think he is. 528 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:20.400 But his title for Jim Phillips press conference today, like, to me, 529 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:23.000 it just sounds like you're you're like you sound like the big Oh put it 530 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:24.880 this way. And I like David Teale. I met him one time at 531 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:29.119 an AEC basketball tournament. I had him on the show years ago. Seems 532 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:30.440 like a great man. He does, he does great reporting. But this 533 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.199 headline makes you sound like such an acc honk for Jim Phillips. Let me 534 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.920 read it to you. Performative antics are not Jim Phillips's style, leave such 535 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.840 foolish foolishness to Brett your Mark, Florida State's board of trustees, and Hulk 536 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:51.880 Hogan. That's like a play on Hulk Cogan last week for Trump and the 537 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.679 board of trustees at FSU being the ones that act as if you know, 538 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:59.519 Florida State is you know, criminally being held behind by the league, and 539 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.000 ma, I don't think your Mark has done anything other than just you know, 540 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.400 keep the league's name out there, be a little innovative and you know, 541 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.119 I guess he did maybe take a shot at the ACC. But let's 542 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.679 be real. You're getting sued by the two most valuable members of your league. 543 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.039 That's not normal. And that's the thing when it comes back to the 544 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:21.159 grant of right stuff, it's all on Swaftford, not on Phillips. But 545 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.119 just lie to us, right, instead of just telling people essentially, hey, 546 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.239 everybody, calm down, we're in third place. It could be worse, 547 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.519 we could be in fourth like instead of doing that, like, how 548 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.519 about you say, look, we realize we are behind, and we realize 549 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:38.760 that our league members are going to be required to have even more revenue, 550 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:44.079 more money in place than ever because of the House bill that's likely to be 551 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.159 settled soon. So we're going to work like crazy within our league office is 552 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:52.159 to try to find every revenue opportunity that's out there to make sure we close 553 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.639 that gap and we never stop. Why not say that? I mean again, 554 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.280 that wasn't like a polished pr statement. I just did that off the 555 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:04.239 cuff. But like I just, I'm so annoyed by the approach to this 556 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.480 being more so, hey, why are you upset we're in third? He 557 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.559 has that mindset instead of just like, hey, look, we get it 558 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.719 and we're gonna keep fighting like crazy to close that gap. Like that's what 559 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.559 your Mark's doing, and he's not gonna do it. Your Mark knows that 560 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.920 they'll always be behind the ACC. I'm sorry, the SEC and the Big 561 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:27.000 ten. But you know how about last week he said, we're never gonna 562 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.000 stop until we are the best conference in the country. That's what your Mark 563 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.559 said at the Big twelve media days, not last week with the week before. 564 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.239 We all know that's not realistic. But he's gonna keep trying and fighting 565 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.639 for the league. And Jim Phillips is over here acting like people are boohooing 566 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.079 about nothing. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other 567 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.480 side. Wrap this thing up. It's coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's 568 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:52.440 on Sports Talk seven ninety Some good news here to wrap up the show. 569 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.679 I mean, it's good news if you care about the NBA. But I 570 00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.639 think there's a lot of people who don't watch the NBA but have found themselves 571 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.800 tuning in to Inside the NBA with that crew of Chack, Chuck, Kendy 572 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.039 and Ernie, and it seemed as if we were going to no longer have 573 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.760 that because of the new NBA rights deal. However, Front Office Sports is 574 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:17.440 reporting that TNT's parent company, Warner Brothers, has submitted a matching offer for 575 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.119 the NBA's new eleven year, seventy six billion dollar rights deal with Disney, 576 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:27.239 NBC Sports, and Amazon. So what they're targeting is Amazon's sea level package. 577 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.599 So they're going to continue to be a part of the NBA if in 578 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.639 fact this works, unless there's a bidding war. I'm not sure if it 579 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.599 gets into that or not, but it just you know, they're not going 580 00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.280 to have as much of a of an affiliation with the league, but they'll 581 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:44.239 still be around and get some games. Therefore, we will still actually have 582 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.880 inside the NBA if all works out, which is good news, good news. 583 00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.559 All right, I'll see you guys at Freedom Hall if you're going. 584 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.280 Let's hope they can pull off another victory here. Keep this thing alive, 585 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.280 fingers crossed. And if you can't go, don't forget. You can watch 586 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.719 it on FS one. And have I not mentioned this yet? I didn't 587 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:06.000 know it, but you know, I knew John Fantu was gonna be on 588 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.960 the call. Fanta is great, but how about David Padgett doing a little 589 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.039 color analyst work. Good to see David. Good to hear him on the 590 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.360 broadcast. I watched the game back the other day. And you know, 591 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.719 again, if you can't make it, you can watch David and John Fantu 592 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.840 on the call. All right, don't go, well, you can go. 593 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.679 You can go where you want. I was gonna say, don't go 594 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.400 anywhere, but you can because we're leaving. We'll be back in twenty one 595 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:30.760 hours right here on Sports Talk seven ninety