Hello everyone, and welcome to Out of this World. I am Jamie Hanshaw and this is Kristin Lagan with me looking lovely as usual, and I also have my little foot because we are going to be talking about dinosaurs. Dinosaurs real or sus? What is your first thought on that? I always question everything, so I'm like fake, Yes, I just need more information. So this is so fun because it's like how far can they take a lie or a con And if you are used to looking at information like we are used to looking at it, then this will not be that much of a stretch to consider the possibility that they may be fabricating a lot of information when it comes to paleontology and natural history. Yeah, unfortunately we do get lumped into if you question this, it's like oh flat Earth there alert because a lot of the information of flat Earth comes from people who also talk about the dinosaurs. And I wanted to make a point that it doesn't upset our worldview as Christians to believe in dinosaurs or not. We can go either way because we're not trying to prove evolution, which the dinosaurs is a part of the evolution narrative, right, Yeah, so the existence of dinosaurs could fit into a biblical narrative or evolutionary narrative, and it does not upset us if they are real or fake. But I wanted to begin the show by reading you a little excerpt from the book nineteen eighty four Conspiracy Classic. What book is that? Yeah? Right, I don't remember them talking about dinosaurs, so I'm really not a lot of people do. And this has been the Week of Dinosaurs because I was studying it, and then Jay got to studying it, and he did a little show about Jurassic Park this week that was really good that you could watch on YouTube, and he was just talking all about cons and hoaxes and everything. But there's this part in nineteen eighty four where O'Brien, who is the villain, has captured Winston, the protagonist, and he's trying to tell him about reality and what is real and what is not. So it goes O'Brien silenced him by a movement of the hand. We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees Winston. There's nothing that we could not do in visibility, levitation, anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. If I do not wish to, it's because the party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth century ideas about the laws of nature. We make the laws of nature, but you do not. You're not even masters of this planet. What about Eurasia and East Asia? You have not conquered them yet, unimportant. We shall conquer them when it suits us. And if we did not, what difference would it make. We can shut them out of existence. Oceania is the world, But the world itself is only a speck of dust, and man is tiny, helpless. How long has he been in existence? For millions of years the earth was uninhabited? Nonsense. The earth is as old as we are, no older. How could it be older? Nothing exists except through human consciousness. But the rocks are full of bones of extinct animals, mammoths and mastodons and enormous reptiles, which lived here long before man was even heard of. Have you ever seen those bones? Winston? Of course not. Nineteenth century biologists invented them before man. There was nothing after man. If he could come to an end, there would be nothing outside of man. There's nothing so here he is trying to do some mental gymnastics and convince Winston that there is no truth. There's only what we say, and it really doesn't even matter what truth is or isn't, it's only what the party says. I do. Now that you read that, I remember that section, Yeah, of him describing himself as being able to float off like a soap bubble. Yeah, so he's trying to make Winston believe a lie just you know, He's like, I want you to believe that two plus two equals five, but I want you to believe it, not just because I say so, right, Yeah. Yeah, So these are the type of cons that we're going to be discussing tonight. And just to put a you know, caveat, I don't believe in evolution. I think natural selection is a thing. I think species evolve and adapt inside their species to their environment. Yeah, for defense reasons or revival instincts. Yeah, they'll grow different spots, or they'll grow different color colors. Exactly. You know how many different colors of pigeons are there depending on where they live. So that's sort of evolution. Yes, that's um observable, that's plausible. You can see that happening, but I do not believe in the evolution of one species to another. So when I was a little kid, I was taken to a movie theater for the first time by our name. And my parents didn't really go to movies a lot, and so they never took me. But when I was a kid, my neighbor took his daughters and me to see The Land Before Time. Yeah, that movie I was a favorite. I mean I probably watched it a million times. I did too, I was. It rocked my world because as a I don't know, ten year old or in that age range a little younger, to see that on the big screen was a life changing event for me. It was like the jungles, the rocks, the waterfalls, the dinosaurs, and it was they were cute and cartoonish and yeah, I mean we had the cassette tape or no VHS tape and I just would watch it over and over and over again. I loved that movie. But there was something in there that later on, when I grew up, I realized how sinister part of it are. Because do you remember the scene where Littlefoot's mom battles the tyrannosaurs Rex, Yeah, she gives her life so that the little dinosaurs can get away. Yes, I do, okay. I was beside myself when that was happening. Yeah, my first big screen movie, right, and the mom is dying there right in front of me, and I'm crying and the adults are like, do you want to go home? You know? Are you okay? We'll take you home. I'm like, no, I can do it. I can make it right. Reminds me of when I got dismissed from fifth grade class because we were watching The Lion King and I cried uncontrollably and so passionately that they had to dismissed me from the classroom. It's like this made such an impact on me that now Littlefoot is an orphan in the movie and you want to help him, right, because his mom died and this stuck somewhere in my psyche. Then I needed to have this plushy toy. Oh so you've had that a long time, I've had Yeah, it's ten years old. And they got it for me for Christmas because I would not stop talking about little Foot because he needed my care because now he's, you know, an orphaned little creature. A part of my psyche that experienced the death of a mother. Had to adopt this toy and carry it with me everywhere to heal that like sort of wound that I experienced. Wow, sob maternal right. So I put that in one of my chapters in my book about trauma based my control and how they deliberately put scenes like that in movies to get kids emotionally attached to the character, to sell merchandise, and for other psychological manipulation reasons. Yeah, it's like Simba and the Lion King. Gosh, there's so many Yeah. So me and little Foot we have a relationship. And I was so disappointed to find out in the studying about dinosaurs this week, and for however long I've been wondering if this was real or not that there are no brontosaurus yeah, or whatever they want to call it. Yeah, that was I watched a Ted talk just in research for tonight's show. If you guys want to look it up, it's Jack Horner h O R N E R. And it's called shape Shifting Dinosaurs and it's basically about that. It's you know, it was almost like the old Rush of dinosaurs, you know, like it's like these scientists were like, oh, you found a dinosaur bone. Well, I'm gonna go find a dinosaur bone and it's gonna be bigger and it's gonna be greater, and I'm gonna name it after myself. And that's what Jack Corner was saying, is like he's a I guess he works at the Natural History Museum. And he was just like, you have to be able to like open these bones up to be able to physically be able to tell how old they are and is it a fossil, is it just minerals, is it sediment or is it actually bone? And you know how much bone is in it? And he said the reason why dinosaurs are so big and there's so many is because scientists have such big egos and there's so many scientists. It's like, wow, okay, yeah, that's yeah. But he mentions the Brontosaurus one like specifically because it's like a favorite. You know. Well, he's so cute looking. I mean, he looks like a draft elephant thing. You know, he's got the water check. And they're like docile and gentle, but big and and they're vegetarians, that's right, they're like trying to kill things, gentle giants. Yeah, let's pose a little foot, so we can get a thumbnail for that. Okay. So the next thing I wanted to talk about was Jurassic Park. Do you remember that? Oh? Yeah? How old? Yeah? Were you when you saw that? Um? I think I was. Okay, I don't remember the year it came out, but I do remember I was twenty four and I met a group of friends that were obsessed with Jurassic Park. So I think it came out a few years before that, maybe nineteen twenty. I don't know. I don't remember when it came out, but it was fun to watch that. Here, I'm gonna lick it up because this is great nineties, um blockbuster, Like it's a perfect popcorn movie. So that came out in like ninety three, ninety three, Oh my gosh, I was ten, good grief, I don't remember. Yeah, So okay, that was actually the first movie I saw at a drive in theater. Okay, And dinosaurs have this like in movies, Yeah, have this history. Because it was very memorable. You know, we got to sit on top of the car and um, it was outdoors and it was a great time. And I just remember that, you know when the foot comes down and go boom, and then the puddle like a core memory for me watching Jurassic Part Yeah, this was actually a book by Michael Crichton, who writes a lot of conspiratorial things into his stories. M M. And if you didn't know, this book is or this franchise is about cloning, chaos math m making chimeras, and synthetic animals, gene splicing, all of this crazy scientific stuff that you wouldn't think. That's just a fun dinosaur movie, right, right. So this was the first time I ever heard of DNA. Okay, yeah, Like, um, it's in the cane at the top, right, like the mosquito. Is it a mosquito? Yes, So the story goes they find this mosquito an amber that was presented for a billion jillion years. Yeah, they find some dino blood inside of it, and they're able to extract this DNA and fill in the gaps using other animals that are living to make dinosaurs. So we're talking about DNA splicing, GMO creatures, patented creatures, right yep, which is something that they are going for in the future as far as human DNA gene splicing patenting creatures like we talked about last time with Gattica and all that. So, um, then you have Jeff Goldbloom character who is a chaos mathematician. And if you guys aren't familiar with this idea, it's the idea that well they call it the butterfly effect, right, yep, that you know, a butterfly flaps its wings in the Amazon and it causes a hurricane in Texas or something like that. Yeah, So this idea goes in opposition to God's providence, which is what Christians believe in that God, uh, you know, rules the things that happen. And not only does chaos theory defy divine providence, it also denies free will because everything is just a jumble of variables and we are just bumbling through life without um, you know, direction. So the idea that God is controlling things is an opposition to this. And then you know, because God allows us as his children, to have a say in how he governs the universe, it's not all chaos. It's up to us and God. The miracle of cloning they talk about in Trasta Park, Yep, they genetically engineered the dinosaurs to be dependent on a lycene shot from humans in the movie, and they weren't supposed to be able to reproduce. So this is all stuff that is discussed in the globalist circles about how to control humanity. Hmm, right, so sterilize them or give them a shorter lifespan or make them dependent, yeah, on the powers that be. And they talk about life finding a way out of control. So the moral Jurassic Park is that when you do this kind of mad science, it gets out of hand. M And then right, yeah, it was like they were leaning into tear it or it kind of reminds me of the whole idea of like leaning into wisdom that's yet to be revealed to us. And so we are bumbling our way through ideas around science that maybe in the future and an age to come or you know, some other time and in our reality or whatever you want to call it. But right now it's um playing God and being a creator of something is um. That's control and UM we have to learn how to surrender and be okay with allowing God to uh have life present itself as it is. And another thing they're talking about is that evolution takes over. Somebody wants to say, Hi, Gigi, come here. Gigi used to be a dinosaur and then she evolved into a kiddy. She did. She was a true she was a t rex. Look averybody, Hi used to be a sabretooth tiger. That's right, she's crazy anyway. Yeah, I haven't watched that movie and a really long time, and I've not seen the new one. I do want to see the new one, but I don't run out to the movies like I like I should. Yeah, well let me tell you about it. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Jurassic World series. The character Mazie is a clone of the rich guy's daughter who was a scientist, and she was cloned and berthed herself and also fixed her DNA so her clone wouldn't have the same health problems she did what she birthed herself. Yes, so in a new Jurassic Park, they have this little girl that they have to save and I think it's the second one, and she come to find out she's a clone like the dinosaurs who have been spliced with all these different animals and so they're smarter, they have more abilities because they have like dolphin jeans and stuff like that. Okay, and also genes that allow them to do hermaphrodic birth, like some iguanas I think can do that or okay, komodo dragon or something they mentioned, whatever reptile it was that can do this, and that that's got into the dinosaurs, and so now that they're reproducing without humans. Yeah, it's kind of like I found out that there's like the ginko is it? The ginko tree can change genders depending on like its environment, and then the male what is it? Seahorses carry the babies. So it's like kind of all over the place, you know. Yeah, so a lot of creatures have this ability. I think maybe worms can do this. I don't know, don't quote me on that, but so you have this virgin birth through cloning, okay, and also eternal life because you're giving because you keep cloning yourself. Yes, and also you can eradicate your the genes that give you diseases and things like that. Okay, So it's a really weird esoteric idea in these goofy dinosaur movies. I mean, you've got Chris Pratt riding a motorcycle of velociraptors and training them, right, But then in the scientific part it's actually very deep. Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. So Chris Pratt has this pet raptor named Blue who also gives birth on her own without a male. So you have this like reptilian virgin birth going on time bone virgin birth. So, and then the Jurassic Park dinosaurs are synthetic. This made me think of like what we were talking about long time ago, the Book of Enoch and Genesis. So you know how the watchers were like doing DNA manipulations. Yep, So this is same ballpark. Now we're the ones doing the genetic modifying of things. Yeah. I really think we're dabbling in It's kind of like the fallen angels came down and shared wisdom. That's not bad. It just wasn't ready for us, you know, as humans. And so I have a hard time labeling some of the stuff that we're getting into as innately evil or bad. I mean, I just don't think we're ready for it, and we don't understand like the repercussions of like what can come about with it. Yeah, because it's hard for me to It's hard for me to look at something and say, oh, that's bad or that's wrong. Now, some things I'm pretty clear about that are being thrown and pushed in our faces. But there's some things in the scientific realm where I'm like, is it bad to eradicate? Like if I had Celiac's disease? Would that be so bad to like try to get rid of that at some point? Because it's debilitating and it's awful. And I mean, I don't have that, but I have people in my life that do, and you know, they would be happier without it. But at the same time, it's like cloning yourself, rebirthing yourself and saying, here's a greater, shinier version of yourself. You know. It's like, but I kind of like myself right now. And yeah, well it's them trying to take evolution into their own hands through cloning, like we talked about last week with the transhumanism right now, so it's um knowledge without wisdom, and it's kind of the idea of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. You know, we were going to be given that, yeah, in time when we were ready, but we kind of bypassed that and that now we're you know, this is why we can't have nice things now your your privileges are being taken away. Um, so drastic world. Uh, it's Jurassic World. Dominion is the third one. Okay, very aggressive title. Well it goes back to you know, having dominion over the earth? Do we do humans have dominion or do giant reptiles have dominion over the earth? Because in the third Jurassic World, um, what's it called sequel? The diosaurs have escaped and they're just running amuck in the world, and you know, like pterodactyls are swooping down and picking up people and giant megalodons are sinking ships and stuff, and like the CIA has a division like Dangerous Species division that they have to protect America from these dinosaurs. So there's a clash of who now has dominion over the earth? Okay, and then this is gonna be crazy. Watch this. A biotech company called Biosin has genetically engineered locusts to cause a global food shortage because the giant locusts only eat non biosin gno GMO crops. I love how we can just like look at each other with our eyes, right, But it's like every based person out there, like when we hear the news, we just like look at each other like with our eyes. Okay, Like duh, how do you you get this right, Like this is happening as we speak. So Monsanto has done the same thing. They make crops that are genetically modified, and then everyone knows about mont Santo anyways, So these giant dinosaur locusts have eaten up all of the non biosin crops in the world, and like part of the whole movie is how to kill this swarm of giant locusts that are causing a worldwide famine. That doesn't sound like revelations at all. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, So if you haven't seen Jurassic Park in a long time, you guys, I recommend you know, I might you know what, I might just watch that, like the older versions, and then go to the movies and see that, Like next week, you should watch the very first one, because that's a classic and it's a good movie, Like it's a good I've seen that. It's in a hot second. Yeah, and then see the very newest one in the theater and you'll you'll know pretty much all of we're talking about. Oh so I can skip the ones in between, Yeah, okay, yeah, good, because I have other things I want to watch. Yeah, A couple of them are just kind of copies of the you know, first one. Okay, it's like a what's that Marvel movie that has Thor in it? Thor? Like I like the first Thor, but like the ones after, Well, the one that's coming out looks really funny. It's kind of like the spoofy like Thor one. Yeah, the eighties one. Yeah, that looks actually kind of cute. But I don't know, I feel like all those movies, like once you get into two and three and four, it's like, how do you stay in this? Like it's just yeah, that's how I feel about your esset part. You notice when you watch them back to back, like they use a lot of the same gags and tropes and the stuff. So yeah, so watch the very first one and watch the newest one and cool, I can do that. So let's talk about what you mentioned, the Great dinosaur Rush. Oh yeah, yeah, so we had, we had the silver rush and we have the dinosaur rush. Yes. So basically, I mean there was this scientist named Richard Owen, and he's the he's the guy that you can credit dinosaur the idea that dinosaurs existed too, And basically he labeled them giant lizards. Um, they weren't like what we've come. It's like today we have this idea of dinosaurs and it's just this like Hollywood version or fantasy version. But all these scientists were like, oh, well I can let's go find dinosaurs and let's all we have to do is find fragments of bones and claim that these bones belong to this new dinosaur species. And there's like so many dinosaurs and that Ted talk we were I was telling you guys about. He was like, why are there so many big dinosaurs? Where's the tiny dinosaurs? Where's the little guys? And it's this, it's this idea that like all these scientists ran out and the gold rush of dinosaur bones, and they were like, mine's bigger, mind's more aggressive, where mind's more unique. And it is bananas that we have created a whole culture around this, because that's what the base, that's the foundation of it. There is so much money to be made in dinosaur stuff, and you've got kids out here trying to identify fake things that they're making up like Pokemon, you know, yeah, the all these sources and rexs and like just I think somebody said they discovered ten new species a day. I'm like that sounds ridiculous. I did find an article though online it was pretty interesting, um about uh oh, let's see um the demographic of dinosaur conspiracy. See people, did you see that? It was like, Okay, the dinosaur doubter is the top um people that people that identify as this are the most likely to be a dinosaur doubter. And so Christianity and the Bible is the first one. So like, if you're more of a more religiously motivated, then you're gonna probably um. And this probably has to do with Protestants because they're like, they don't talk about dinosaurs in the Bible, so therefore I can't believe it. It's like, so let's throw the baby out with the bathwater, you know that kind of situation, which typical And then I don't know, It's just that to me was a big It's like, I don't want to get lumped into Okay, I don't want to get lumped into flat earth people, and I don't want to get lumped into religiously motivated Like this is why I because honestly, for me, I'm I'm doubting the narrative, not because of either one of those. It's because I don't trust the government and like any agenda around the government or leading people into thinking a particular way. It's like that the Truman show. You know, it's of course he doesn't but of course his boat runs into the wall, and then you know he has to figure out life outside of it. Anyway, Well, okay, so what I found out and this is this actually is called the Bone Wars the Great Dinosaur Rush. And so the first like fossil thing they found was in sixteen seventy seven. So way back then, a man named Robert Plott discovered the first dinosaur bone and his best guests as to what it belonged to was a giant human. Oh yeah, yeah, giants. Yeah, And we're gonna talk about that at the end. So fast forward too, like the eighteen seventies. They say the first dinosaur bones were discovered in the eighteen seventies, and there was these two guys called Authneil Marsh and Edward Cope, and one was from the Academy of Natural Science in Philadelphia and the other was from the Peabody Museum at Yale. So they're competing, like you said, for attention. Yeah, and they so they discover this first nearly complete dino fossil in New Jersey, of all places. And so then Marsh bribes people behind Cope's back to send any new discoveries to him. So there's already Shenanigans. Yeah, very first day day one of dinowers. It's Tomfoolery and Shenanigan. Okay, I'm foolery. So then Cope starts breaking into Marsha's states and stealing bones and stuff. They are like blowing up each other's dig sites. They're trying to slander each other. They have this rivalry and they're arguing over like the reconstruction of skeletons, you know, like where one wants to put the head on this side and the other said, no, it goes on this end. You know, which one's the tail in which one's the head. And they're like arguing over this, right. So they had these dueling dig sites in Wyoming, and then they were like so childish that they would actually have dirt fights and shovel dirt into the other guy's pit and like no, shoveled dirt back into his pit. And then then they like get in you know, yehall fights, and this whole thing they were ended up financially and socially ruined by their attempts to outcompete and disgrace each other. So this is the beginning of dinosaurs. And it's so funny. People are like that hoax that they could never make stuff like a People wouldn't buy it if it wasn't real. And I'm like thinking, I've just watched for the past two years in real time, the entire world gets sucked into a hoax of a narrative, the whole world, and we have all of the information of human kind at our fingertips, and they still bought the COVD. Yeah, So don't tell me that people in the eighteen hundreds are so sophisticated, right, they couldn't fall for the stuff. Yeah, especially when we have museums and academia behind you who are pushing the evolutionary narrative. Well, I remember last year I had to go to Pennsylvania and they had it. I went to the museum. Oh what museum was that. It was really cool. Can't remember the name of the museum, but it's like the big museum of the city, and they have this huge dinosaur exhibit and you've got this giant version let's say like t Rex, right, and it's huge, it's big, and writing for one of it is describing t Rex and you know the history around this dinosaur. And then like right above, it's like this is a real life bone from this from a t Rex And it's like, hold up, what is that then? And most people think they're looking at a fully dug found intact and it's clay. It's not real. What you're looking at is not real. The only thing real about that dinosaur is that little box at the information and there's this little bitty like bone. They'll get a tooth and they'll make an entire dinosaur out of a tooth. Giant, huge dinosaur. They're like, this is what we believe this tooth came from. Oh there's a whole job called like paleo artistry that you know, makeup what you think it would have booked like and here, I mean that's more than most dinosaurs, right, Like that's all you get. Yeah, that could be anything, you know. They don't even know how the bones fit together. And I'm not like a paleontologist, but I thought these were fossils. I didn't think bones will survive because I guess the fossil is the mineralization going into the bone and becoming like a stone or something. Hum. Yeah, I was listening to a comedian talk about this stuff and they were like, bones can't last that long, like they disintegrate, so they're yeah, so they're fossils. I have the I have a fossil on right now. It's called the ammonite. It's like old shell. These are really cool. Yeah, that is cool thing. You know. You can see the spiral of the thingy. Yeah, creatures that look like this still that are alive and so here's your missing link and the bones that they think, you know, so they're not digging up entire intact skeletons. It says, Uh, fossils are not the remains of the organism itself. Okay, it's an impression. Uh, let's see, Fossils are the preserved remains or traces of remains of an ancient organism. Fossils are not the remains of the organism itself. They are rocks. Um. It says, bones, shells, feathers, and leaves can all become fossils. Okay, but like I think, like the like when you say these are the bones of the dinosaurs. No, there's no, there there are no bones. It's fossils and what all is making up that fossil? But I get it, Like we can dig and like we find a bone, right, but like we have no idea what that bone is too. But like a bone wouldn't last a million million years like they say, right, exactly, So it's very confusing everyone. These two men supposedly discovered one hundred and thirty six species between them, Yeah, but with no complete skeletons whatsoever. And then only like thirty two of these things are recognized as actual things now, so it just gets more murkier and more. Yeah, it really does, Danny right and steer shadier. Yeah, so you talked about Sir Richard Owen, and I wanted to just over that one more time because he was a freemason. He well, okay, so dinosaurs were hypothesized before they even found anything, so they were like looking for this missing link, like they were looking for Bigfoot missing link and stuff to promote evolution. And Sir Richard Owen was from the Royal Society in the British Museum and in eighteen forty two, so this was like the heighth of evolutionism and the media started writing about long lost animals, and then in eighteen fifty four they found proof. They found a tooth in the Missouri River and they built a whole ass dinosaur off of this imagination. Gune Wild. Yeah, so he called it dinosauria. Like you said, it means terrible lizard, right, And he actually had mixed feelings about evolution and he argued with Darwin over something. Yeah. He also wasn't he like a teacher to the royal children? And the queen gave him a house down the road or something did give him a house. Yeah, he ended up like that's where he died, was in that house. Because his reputation or from what I remember, his reputation or something within the academic community, it went sideways later in life, so I think, because he was starting to argue with Darwin's m okay. So yeah, they were looking for a missing links between reptiles and birds and reptiles and mammals necessary for evolution theory. And this is so dumb, you guys. I can't believe how retarded evolution is. Have you ever heard of Tiktolic? No, this is a guy who is so goofy that he's a meme now I'm gonna find a picture of him. He's like the missing link between aquatic reptiles and land reptiles. And sorry, guys, I should have had this already. I should have like a dance prepared, like dead time, a magic trick for you all us. Okay, here's the scoofy guy. Can you see him? Oh he's cute? Yeah, Okay, yeah, he's That was I remember learning about him when I was learning about Darwin and school. So it's funny because like, dinosaurs are this American thing because they found the first tooth in Zuri and then they found bones in New Jersey that started the bone Wars. Yeah, and so it just kind of like took off from there. And why had no fossils ever been found before that in history except for one thing in sixteen seventy seven, I mean of all of the big digging things that they've been doing for cent you know, millennia, the Pyramids and the Goblacki, Teppi and all those ancient archaeological things, like why do we not have any intact stuff? So when they found them in America, then they started to find them all over the world. Wow right, Yeah, I feel like over and like European countries, it was more still dragons and that kind of thing. So fossil hunters, this is interesting. They're told to dig in specific areas and they always find things when they dig for them, and they're always in like pockets. You know, that's funny. I was gonna wait till later to bring this up, but there's this guy. He's so funny. His name is William Hayes Hayes, and he's a football player for the Rams, and he's on Jimmy Kimmel. So you guys need to lick this, like just YouTube, like William Hayes Jimmy Kimmel, and he is a well known dinosaur denier and he also like believes in mermaids. So it's like he's a public figure that is open to talking about like how fake dinosaurs are. And this Jimmy Kimmel's kit is so funny because Jimmy Kimmel takes William to a museum and there's a dinosaur expert that's like taking them through the museum and saying, you know, we know they're real because when they dig in these specific areas, they find bones and and Williams like, no, I don't believe it. And Jimmy Kimmel's like, why don't you believe that they found the bones? When he says they found the bones, he's like, because the bones were placed there and then they were told to go dig there. It's so funny. Um, but yeah, you guys have to like literally lick him up because he has such a cute personality around this whole like dinosaur denier thing. I loved how um the scientist was trying to explain how we found these bones and he's like, not we yes you did, maybe I didn't. So funny. So the dino racket man, Okay, so you've got kids, Uh, mine's full of crap, Like there's thousands of species of dinosaurs and missing links and it's just not true. And it's like to get in to paleontology and these sciences, it's a small club. It's not like you can just do you know a paleontologist? No, you know anybody that works at a museum. Have you ever met a dinosaur person that like not a real Like no? No? Okay, So it's like entire creatures are made up all. Oh, this is so interesting. Museum displays are plaster casts Okay, hold on and say that again. Museum displays, Like you walk into the Natural History Museum and you see the diet t Rex. Yeah, fake dude. Yeah, it's called yeah made in China, and one supplier is called the Zigong City Ocean Art Company, and they make fake dinosaur things for museums and theme park dinosaurs. So this right, there's a dino world in Kentucky too. Oh really, there's in I think Utah are Wyoming also, so there's these yeah roadside attractions, theme parks and it's just like Mickey Mouse. Yeah is Mickey Mouse rule. So the Zigang City provides museum quality fossils made from real bones, but they're ground up chicken bones, dog bones, cowbones, cat horse whatever, and they can get their hands on and they cast them as dinosaurs and they're called conglomerates. Okay, okay, So the paleo artists make up what they think this creature looks like because they found a toebone and they draw a whole creature around it, and like then China makes it and they put it in a museum and they say give it, you know, a scientific sounding name, yep, and people just buy this stuff. Yeah. So outsiders are not allowed access to the real bones because they say they're too fragile. I mean, this thing lasted a million billion years, but you can't look at it or to fall apart, right, And then they say this crap like, oh, they're radioactive because of the meteor that killed all the dinosaurs. Oh come on, no, that's what they say. That that's why the public cannot view actual fossils because trinobyl. Yes, they're radioactive and they're too delicate. There's this book called Too Big to Walk by Brian J. Ford, and it's about how if you know anything about animals and like biology, you would know that they couldn't support them. They like, they wouldn't be able to breathe, and they wouldn't be able to walk, and it like just the bones would not be able to support the math that we've given to these dinosaurs. Right. So his theory is that they were aquatic beings, like floating around in swampy marshes, because that's the only way they would be able to survive. If they were buoyant. I mean, an alligator looks like a dinosaur does, so maybe once upon a time, you know, I don't even care about dinosaurs. If there was really big spiders, I would be dead, Like that would just game over. But I do feel like maybe reptiles could have been bigger at some time, you know, in a different climate or a different like I don't know, like anacondas are giants, snakes and the Amazon. So it's like, okay, maybe our world was like a different climate at some point and so things were just bigger naturally. But yeah, the mask, the scale, the imagination, the ego wrapped up into what we've created is just bonkers exactly. And like what would they be eating? They're so big? How do you'd have to eat like ten cows a day or more? Like I think were there cows back then? I think there are cows. I mean there's some form of cow probably. Yeah, So the dinosaurs are too large in disproportioned to ever stand on their own. They're too slow. They just don't make sense at all. And then you can look at YouTube YouTube dinosaur bones made in China. It's RT video. It's pretty good, and they'll show you the factory where all of your museum quality dinosaurs come from. So then I watched because I always want to be fair, like I want to get all sides. Watch the Steve Booker on Joe Rogan named Trevor Vali. Yeah, we watched with some orange beard or green Beard or whatever. He said, what did you think of that guy? Well, I was watching it, and he just came across as very like, very smart, clearly knew what he was talking about, knew okay, knew his specialty very and he was able to articulate it and talk about it well. But his his reaction to things he didn't agree with. We're just like so zero to ten thousand, and I was just like, I can't watch you because you're like, calm yourself down and then talk about what you want to talk about. It was such a turn off. It was he presented his information because he was full of ad hominems and just like attacking the person and not the information. And he was like cussing at the video. I know, dude, calmed down, and just because you are like indignant doesn't mean you're right right exactly. I couldn't finish it because I could not stand his personality. So I'm glad you finished it. I watched this, and I watched a formal debate that he debated another guy Alex Stein and that was even more cringe eer and so okay. So he says on Joe Rogan, marine reptiles were discovered a century before that, but he gives no source. He just thinks I know everything about dinosaurs and he can just throw out facts. But he didn't say one where who you know what? Nothing, Lots of cursing, lots of anger. He says people on YouTube are so stupid. He is totally in his confirmation bias, and he's accusing everyone else of confirmation bias. Mhmm. But he's the projecting deflecting. Yeah, I mean, and if he was wrong, then that means his whole profession is meaningless. So he has more invested in the narrative of dinosaurs than someone who is questioning it. Hmm right, yeah, yep. And so he thinks everyone is stupid. Um I that's the thing that turns me off. That personality is like, oh you're stupid. He was, I can't believe you think that way. Condescending. Yes, at the end of this other formal debate, he was talking to the guy like the guy was a three year old. Um okay. So then he talks about LaBrea tar pits which I don't think they found like whole dinosaurs in there either. I think you know the ones in La. Have you been there? M um? Let's see. So back then, he says, we were not sophisticated enough as a civilization to identify the bones of different animals, and that's why people were finding things, but they didn't know what this is. His argument is we found dinosaur bones all the time, but nobody knew what it was. M I don't know about that. So then he accuses confirmation by a starting off the erroneous worldview evolution. So this is an improper position on his part because his worldview is starting with evolution and somebody else's worldview is kind of more scientific, and then they're agnostic about it. Right. Also they're getting drunk the whole time. Yeah, so yeah, how can he be objective If he's a paleontologist. His whole life is defined in this profession. He says they have found almost fully intact fossils, but he didn't say when, where, who, or what he finds the fossils that he's looking for. But okay, so if they're finding things, I think there could be saber tooth tiger maybe, Yeah, there could be a wooly mammoth. Um. I'm not opposed to big animals that went extinct because that happens all the time. Yep, right, um. One man is responsible for six thousand fossils found in Argentina named Florentino a meg you know, so that just sounds suspicious. The long skull fossils are fascinating to me. I know, I want to talk about that the end. Yeah, okay, so but why is one guy finding six thousand fossils He's getting paid dude, yeah right, And the whole idea that oil comes from dinosaurs, like that fossil fuel dinosaur juice, that's just really stupid. Um. Okay. The method they used to date the things called radio matrix is measuring rocks around the fossil, So they don't even measure the fossil itself. They measure the rocks that they founded in. And if you study like creationism versus evolution and stuff like that, you'll learn about like carbon dating and how that's kind of a pseudoscience. So when they put, you know, this is ten million years old, it's just they're just guessing. M right. Yeah. So the guy that he did a formal debate with Alex Stein. He was a Christian and he just kept giving personal insults, ad hominems. He talked about um paleontologists is like a carnival grift, Like this is the time in history where you know, P. T. Barnum and Ripley's believe it or not, Yeah, and all of them like pay a nickel to come see the fattest man alive? Right bear did woman? You know? Yeah, I think dinosaurs mythology is part of all of this. Yeah, I do too. It's the spectacular you know, of that time, that age, and then we've monetized on it as a society and now it's things that little boys and girls are fascinated with and we are clear. It's like Santa Claus. Yes, and instead of real things that they could be learning, they're lying about fake sources. Yeah, there's um, I don't know what it's called. I'm like not a dinosaur expert at all, but there's that one dinosaur. He's kind of cute, but like when he gets angry, he like throws his shield out. Yeah, he's like and he spits like that's not real at all, Like there's no dinosaur like that there's this video is it was really funny. This guy was like I have been lied to my entire life, Like what is happening? This was my favorite dinosaur and it's not even real, right, And this was like a Discovery video, like a Discovery channel like four teens and so I was like, wow that I can't believe they like actually produced this and put it out. So that's pretty much all I had for like the dinosaurs. And then I had one more thing, which I think is happening. But my conclusion after all of this, like almost a week and a half of nothing but dinosaurs around here, I think there are remains of ancient extinct animals, absolutely, but I do not believe in the missing links. I do not believe in the species that they purport, like t Rex and just the big giant you know, Triceratops and all that. I think that's all made up. Yeah. So yeah, they're finding other things and calling them dinosaurs, and I think they might be giants. Yeah. I think that's easier for me for me direct my mind around than cute bronosaurus. Is you know that like play and are cute? I mean I want to like giants or giant night. Giants. Giraffes are really cool, but it's almost like we took the idea of like this giraffe and exploded it into a dinosaur. It's like a draft plus an elephant. Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. H Do you remember that band They might be giants? Yeah, like a little bird house in your soul like songs. Okay, so if you little bird house in your soul. Yeah, but remember yeah, yeah, I do. So giants are found. Giants are being found around the world way more than dinosaurs, and even the museums, the Smithsonian, all of these official academic things are like finding big giant people. Right. I love to watch like a good documentary on some giants. Yes, so hundreds of reports on these finding of these giants. They end with the conclusion that the bones were taken away by the Smithsonian for further investigation, and then they disappear m because they don't want people believing in giants. Yeah right, because that would be a more biblical narrative than a you know, a drag. Well, okay, so I watched the thing about um giants, I mean not giants dinosaurs in the Bible, and pretty much a dragon is just a reptile. Yeah, right, a big reptile. It's not a flying, fire breathing t rex thing that you can ride, you know, in attack cities with. It's just a bigger reptile. M a behemoth that they talk about in job sounds just like a rhinoceros. Okay. And the Leviathan is a sea creature that is not even like an actual animal. Is something that was created according I think was it in the Book of Enoch to like, yeah, I think he was made to guard the demons that are in the Abyss or something like that. But so if they're like there's dinosaurs in the Bible, not really, it's just reptiles and rhinos. And then the Leviathan. Yeah, the Leviathan character gives me the heebie geebs because I think I really like, I I don't know the sea, the ocean creeps me out. That's another thing I wanted to say. They're finding weird crap in the ocean all the time. Oh that's what William Haynes of The Rams was saying, is like, I would I believe in mermaids over dinosaurs because they're finding things and the ocean all the time. Yeah. So and like things wash up, You're like, what the heck is that? You know? Yeah, it's wild. Dinosaur is like a shield for all of these other weird things. And then the Smithsonian. I kind of went on a tangent and I started looking at this book, this whole book. I didn't just a couple parts of it. I read. It's called Misty Chords of Memory, The Transformation of Tradition in American Culture, But it's basically about a lot of it is about museums and how they used this to put ideas in society that they want to put in Well, remember Nights at the Museum with William No Robin Williams. Yes, a night at the museum. Yeah, yeah, I love them, Like I wanted to work at a museum after I watched that show Who Who Didn't. But it just it solidified all those storylines that you learned in public school. And then it's like, oh, yeah, I know about that, and I know about that, and it just manipulates your mind into thinking, oh, yeah, this is accurate, this is correct. I'm in the know. Yeah. So this book is all about like the Rockefellers, how they made museums and all of those big moneys to disseminate the information that they want put into public. Right now, I might do book report on this, But I just thought that was so fascinating because I never thought, you know, I just thought people find cool things and they get put in a museum. But that's not how it works. Like, let's you know, fascinating to me too, Like Hitler wanted to just accumulate all of these weird things like art pieces and you know that the Spear of Destiny. Oh have you read that book? No, but I did this whole thing about Hitler and the Spear of Destiny, how he was like obsessed with it. Yeah, I have the book. I've never read it. Someone actually recommended it to me probably eight years ago, and they were like, you have to be ready when you read this book. And I've always been scared of it. So you have it, I do. Yeah, okay, maybe we can do it. Yeah, yeah, it'd be a reason for me to read it. So so people my giant bones of giant people excuse me, and they call the authorities, and the authorities happen to be museums and the Smithsonian, and they come pick up all evidence and they take it away. And then when the people try to like go visit the stuff that they found in a museum. It's not there. Yeah, and like we have a receipt that you came to my house and picked up the bones. And they're like, well, you know, I don't know what lost in translations, like Hunter Biden's laptop. It just went into a different dimension or something. And then Smithson, the guy who made the Smithsonian, is like a weird character. He is actually in a sarcophagus inside the Smithsonian's first building called the Castle. Oh, so that's weird. And then I came across this book called The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America by Richard Dewhurst, and it's got four hundred years of news articles about giant discoveries, m and so, dinosaurs and all this are essential in the account of the evolutionary process which we were talking about. Then there's this US Supreme Court ruling. I couldn't find a date on this, but supposedly there's a lawsuit. A US Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian to release classified papers dating from the early nineteen hundreds that proved the organization was involved in a major historical cover up, destroying evidence of giant remains uncovered across America to protect the mainstream chronology of human evolution. Wow, so you find when and where that happened, that would be cool. And then I didn't know there was something called the American Institution of Alternative Archaeology, which is at war with the Smithsonian Bone Wars and okay, so apparently the suppression of this began shortly after the Civil War became an outright cover up, cover up in eighteen seventy nine when Major John Wesley Powell was appointed Smithsonian Director, launching a strict pro evolution, pro manifest destiny agenda. So there's okay, which is just steamroll everybody in your way. Hm. So I think I think mermaids are real and dinosaurs are not. I think the like all of the species of dinosaurs is like a Pokemon game, and I think that it is a distraction from the things they actually find, like megalithic sites. I mean, we could do a whole thing on just weird archaeology. Oh go, Beckley Tepe is like one of my favorite subjects out there. Love it a little bit about that because I going to mention that, well you did earlier, and I was like, Oh, that's such a good reference point because it's the oldest archaeological site ever that we've ever discovered, and it's so protected and secret it like it's like you can't just go and check it out. I don't think you can. There's no tours of it. Yeah, And like I don't know, but there's been all the speculation that you know, like dimension like wormholes or whatever. I mean, there's all types of stuff that they say is comes out of this place. But I just I find that that archaeological site so fascinating. And isn't it in like northern Turkey or yeah, I think it's in Turkey, But it's fascinating. But like you said, why don't why haven't we discovered like like dinosaur bones from that place? Never even like thought about that, And just think of all the weird things they find. I mean, they still don't know how they made the pyramids. They don't know how like Machu Pichu cut their stones. They don't know how all of these megalithic things got there, or what they're for, or how they even dragged the rock and cut it perfectly with precision like that leaves the rock looking like glass. Yeah, I mean, the Pyramids are fascinating to me. I'll never not be fascinated with the Pyramids. Yeah, so many other sites like that that. There's a book I think it's called Forbidden Archaeology. Should be pretty good. I've never read it, but yeah, I think the dinosaur delusion is to draw attention away from real archaeology, where they're finding things that they don't want the public to know about. Absolutely, that'd be a good deep dive on because that stuffs fast, like the like you like we touched on earlier, like the long scold people like what why yeah, or like crystals, what the heck are those things? Oh? Yeah, I would real story, real quick. I went to a galactic expo like ten years ago, and I met this man who sold the crystal skull thing. And I didn't know people like him existed in the world, but they do. And he had this whole thing about the crystal skulls having magic and infused. You know, it's like crystals on crack. You know, it's like, Oh, you think an amethyst is cool, wait till you get a crystal skull. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah, Well that's all that's all I have. What do you do you think we kind of got to the bottom of it. I mean, I I think we. I think we proposed an idea for people to chew on, like maybe I should do my own research, and maybe I should. I mean to be honest, I don't think I've ever pondered the idea until like a year ago, Like it didn't even come into my brain, like could dinosaurs, Like I didn't even think about it. Yeah. Well, I think it's fascinating and I thought it was really fun and I've always loved dinosaurs, but now they're in the category of, like, you know, a mythical creature. Yeah. 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