WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:07.679 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagan zala Son Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:13.359 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services. He's sure your most prized possession. 3 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:18.440 It's kt z R two SA at iHeart Radio station. Hey, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:21.519 everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:25.359 I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagan Zaliz. We got our guy Ryan with 6 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.120 us today. I got your name, right, Ryan, that's cool. 7 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:33.159 Well, I forgot Henry's name yesterday. One time out of five he forgot 8 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:38.640 it. As long as I don't forget mine, I'm good. I don't 9 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:45.600 care about you too, gonna weary. I'm Ryan. I'm Ryan. Hey, 10 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.159 good afternoon. It's Tuesday. We have another day together and then we're 11 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:53.119 go take Thursday and Friday off right, some business to ten two. Good 12 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:56.079 show today, different show. Yeah, you know, we talked about this 13 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:59.960 yesterday. We're gonna bring on Dan Guerrero, former U c l A F 14 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:04.439 Letter director. Now he's uh, he's part of a company that does coaching 15 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:08.560 searches. I guess I'm not sure what side you know, do they do? 16 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.000 The coaches hire them and then they try and go get them jobs like 17 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:17.879 a headhunter, or are they hired by the schools to vet the coaches. 18 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:19.640 That's a good question, I would I would not sure which it is, 19 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.480 right, Yeah, that's good questions. That's a cool shirt you got. 20 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:27.120 I just know he's a brand new I got it a year ago Father's Day. 21 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.560 I usually wear just a golf in, I'll just say, and you 22 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.159 probably get it to fit in there. That's that's just that's just crap, 23 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:37.680 because it's fits you now, will fit you fit me before. It's always 24 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:41.400 but loose. Now it's cool shirt. If you grow out of it, 25 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.280 I want it. What color is it? Pink? It's pink, pink. 26 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:48.799 It's a very like very pink pink. It's like a hot pitch. 27 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.200 It's not a U shirt. It's a hot pink. It's not a U 28 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:55.599 shirt. Dude, I can wear anything. Nobody would wear that shirt. 29 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.480 I don't, you know, I don't question my masculinity. I'll wear pink. 30 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.920 No, no, no, you don't wear those I wear those colors. 31 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.680 What I usually wear, these two golf in But I had a business 32 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:07.680 meeting today and I needed to wear I wasn't gonna wear a button down and 33 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.439 I wasn't gonna wear a T shirt, so I put on a shirt a 34 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.479 little dressier than what I would normally wear to this place. I've given you 35 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.039 a Steve compliment. I appreciate it. I do. It's kind of like 36 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:19.680 weird, but it's a good guy. I've gotten like I've got like three 37 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:23.080 or four new golf shirts over the last several months, and I usually wear 38 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.680 just a golf in, you know, because I like it. You know, 39 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.840 I look good. I play good when I golf. You play the 40 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:32.400 same no matter what the hell you wear. No, I think I would 41 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:37.439 play worse if I didn't look good. So you you just said yesterday you've 42 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:39.639 been golfing, and what do you say? I shoot the same thing every 43 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:44.479 every so you could be were the track? You are correct? So does 44 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:46.800 it matter? Look good, feel good? Blah blah blah, A little 45 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:52.159 bit of confidence. That's that's what it is. That means nothing. Hey, 46 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:53.759 I want to look good when I walk out the door, because I 47 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.759 look bad when I walk in the door after golf. Right, my wife 48 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.439 goes, are you okay? She never says, she doesn't say, how'd 49 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:07.039 you play? You know? Do you have fun? I was at him? 50 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.159 Are you okay, when you're when you're gone one of these days and 51 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:14.000 I don't have a guest host, I'm asking Gaff, she's gonna come here 52 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.719 and she's gonna be my He's going to deny, she says any of the 53 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:21.319 things that I say said, could you fill me in on my partner here? 54 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.319 Because I don't have any idea. I try to give him a company 55 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.919 with that shirt, and he took you did not. I said, I 56 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.400 don't look as fat as I did last time I wore this. I didn't. 57 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:34.400 God, I did never use the word fat. I just said you 58 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.520 look. I said you look says did you finally finish cause you lost Did 59 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.879 you finally fit in it? What is that saying? He says, you're 60 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:44.560 fat? No, I didn't you you've lost weight? Right? Well, 61 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.879 yeah, But because I haven't wait a second time out my my defense, 62 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.879 I had never seen you in the shirt. You've lost weight. Maybe this 63 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.319 is the first time you wore it. In my mind is because you can 64 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.639 fit into it now. Because I like that short. I like that shirt 65 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.039 a lot. In fact, I want that shirt. I gave you some 66 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.719 shirts, but nothing like that color. I like that color. This was 67 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:08.840 the Father's Day gift. I like that from last year. And then I 68 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:13.120 got another really cool shirt for Father's Day this year. It's it's it's a 69 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:18.600 it's kind of a lavender stripe kind of shirt. Again, I look really 70 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:24.399 good. And sorry I started this one. Sorry, I started down this 71 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:29.240 path this picture. I like that shirt. Whether you're fat or know what 72 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:30.160 color it is? But do you say it? I don't, but i'd 73 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.399 like the color. It's to me, what color is it to you? 74 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:38.680 It's peach to you. It's a very hot pink. I don't handle the 75 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:41.680 when you're talking though yellow and reds here, I have no idea what you're 76 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.240 talking about because I don't know what yellow. To me, this is red. 77 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.879 To me, this is yellow. It's a very hot pink shirt. 78 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.800 I like it. I like it whatever color. Okay, Sorry, listeners, 79 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:54.439 readers, and everybody else is paying attention. Just sorry, we have 80 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:59.600 okay. Dan Gerrero, uh you know he's involved in coaching searches in some 81 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:03.079 form. Will ask him, uh you know what what he does. But 82 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.279 he's the former U c l A athletic director, got out at a time 83 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:11.160 that a lot of a lot of folks got out. You know. He 84 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:15.360 we had him on last year. I think it was talking about you know, 85 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.920 the upcoming you know, all the changes and stuff. So we'll talk 86 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.199 about that more again, but sort of from a business angle, you know, 87 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:28.240 the business of college athletics. It's it's going, it's it's crazy. 88 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:32.279 There's people. There's people making money everywhere, lawyers, uh, coaches, 89 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:38.600 administrators and now athletes people a good point. Everybody's making money. But the 90 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:44.079 universities and the media and the media, we don't make any money. Universities 91 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.319 in the media right now. Yeah, the universe is making money. They're 92 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:50.360 spending more than what they have. That's that's not making well, they're bringing 93 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.879 in revenue. Let's let's say it that way. So we'll have dan on 94 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:00.240 uh a good friend of a good friend of ours uh le brun and a 95 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.920 guy. And then at at four fifteen James Ready. He's a he's an 96 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.360 athletic trainer. He's I think he's one of the trainers for the U of 97 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.759 A, you know on you know, at games on the field and stuff. 98 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.839 And he was when I worked with him, and he was a trainer 99 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.879 for the Sugar Skulls the first year of the Sugar Skulls when I worked over 100 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:21.639 there, with Mike Fader, and then he's he's kind of responsible for their 101 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:27.959 sports medicine kind of stuff. So they're doing some free physicals for for fall, 102 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.800 you know, kids playing false sports this Friday. So he wants to 103 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.639 come on, come on and talk about that. If you've got a grand 104 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:36.680 a grandson, or granddaughter, a daughter, granddaughter, or you you know, 105 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:40.079 if you're in high school and you're listening to us for some silly reason, 106 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.120 you know you can go get free. So let me ask a dumb 107 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.399 question and ask him a dumb question. Do they still say turn around a 108 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.360 cough? Is that still like a procedure. I haven't had them do that 109 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:53.720 for any of my physicals anytime recently. Yeah, But but back in the 110 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.839 day he was, Yeah, they're coming to grab your stuff and trab your 111 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.480 junk and your cough. What the hell for? I don't know what they 112 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:00.560 could tell. We can ask him what could you tell from that? Ask 113 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.439 him that, James, when you grab my nuts and you tell me to 114 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:08.399 cough, what are you looking for? And if he says something like really 115 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:15.639 nothing, then we've got a problem. Attorney. Now that brings that brings 116 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.319 new meaning to I won't use the plug on the ball exactly. I won't 117 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:24.160 use a form of that. Ryan. We we we get it all on 118 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:29.920 this show man the hand on the Yeah, well we can ask James. 119 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:31.600 I've never you know what, I've never bothered to ask a doctor. They 120 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:33.879 just say do it, kind of like when they say bend over and let's 121 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:38.240 go to the mountain. Its forty five, six, fifty years ago, 122 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.199 you know for me, Yeah, what you trying to do? You know? 123 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.319 It's a point. Yeah, I mean I know why we you know 124 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.160 they would do that other thing from the other side. You know that's because 125 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.160 we're old. Yeah, because we're on They got to check your your savior 126 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.680 prostate. They don't even do that anymore. What does your doctor still do 127 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:58.680 it? They can, they can. They can figure out your prostate through 128 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:01.399 uh uh you know blood tests and stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, the 129 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.399 dumbers and all that stuff. Yeah, they do that, but they also 130 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.800 do other things. I haven't gotten them out quite a while. Okay, 131 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.759 good luck with that. Look probably a reason good law. Again. Then 132 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.519 then there's the like going to Mount Everest, which is they call anoscopy. 133 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.720 There's all that, Oh that ain't matter. It's the front. It's the 134 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.920 stuff I had the front way. Yeah, it's okay, Cather's and other 135 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:26.360 Yeah, no, let's change something. Let's change I've got the old man 136 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.680 who listened to do some cringey. Now, yeah, they're turning. Said, 137 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:35.960 I'm going to the young man where he's always positive about you exactly. 138 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:41.120 How do you think Dave Kelly is a little maybe a year old? Yeah? 139 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.000 He come, Steve, how can you look so much older than him? 140 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:50.440 Oh? Who does? I don't look sixty? I get ye, 141 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:52.960 I don't look sixty. No, you don't, uh like like fifty nine 142 00:08:52.960 --> 00:09:01.000 and a half. Sorry, I sorry, this is a job at each 143 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.440 other day, Steve, I turned sixty in two weeks, sixty five, 144 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.120 two weeks. I don't think you look sixty five. You should see me 145 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.919 in your driver's license. Yeah, because that's sixty five. You gotta get 146 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.120 in your driver's license. You shulde the picture. I look, I'm like 147 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.720 silver because it's a black and white photo. Here, it's a black and 148 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:24.279 white ford. I'm silver. I'm like silver silver. It's crazy. So 149 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.919 we regressed. We take it. We have this into the ditch. We 150 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.080 have it already. I mean we're like ten minutes into the show. We're 151 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:33.559 already in the ditch, so I'm sure you can. You're gonna breaking news 152 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.799 with Pele? No, are you gonna? I think we should talk about 153 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:39.279 this because it's kind of I think we should, and it's it's kind of 154 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.919 big news because it was such a such a I didn't know what did he 155 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.519 finish with last night? Do you know? You know? Right? Because 156 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:48.759 you know I said I was gonna go home watch your game, and I 157 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.919 can really forgot about it. And I got home and then all of a 158 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.120 sudden, somebody said somebody tweets I mean I said, and sends me a 159 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.559 text. It's Peala and capital letters with exclamation points. I'm like what. 160 00:09:56.639 --> 00:10:00.000 I caught the finals, a few minutes of the regulation, then the overtime, 161 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.799 and okay, I thought maybe there was a chance to be the m 162 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.679 v P of the of the team. Somebody else was Robert can't remember's name, 163 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.399 but he had a pretty good camp. He had a pretty good camp. 164 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.679 Was the game winner. He is who he is, right, he 165 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:18.519 kind of just I thought in the regulation they had one chance and the guy 166 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.559 got a got a charge call, and I thought they were gonna go to 167 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.080 Pelly to win it from the perimeter, and they didn't then they went over 168 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.679 time. Yeah, but uh he had the game winner. Well, you 169 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:28.000 know again, as you said, he's had a good he's had a good 170 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.200 summer. Uh, you know, did well in the summer league. Get 171 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.519 him on, He's given himself a chance. Let's try to get him on. 172 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.559 Let's try. Yeah. Yeah, let's get get to his agent. 173 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.879 I don't know if you can get us something about that. Yeah, so 174 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.000 let's get out. He's a good dude. He's a really good dude. 175 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.639 Uh. He he loves the cuss too. So watch that's right, press 176 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.639 coverages. He's yeah, yeah he has that done that. Yeah, yeah, 177 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:52.120 but a good dude. You know in Europe they call they you know, 178 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.919 they drink young and they speak their mind. Yes, let's see what 179 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.960 they want. Hell yep, yep, ye Okay. Are you still reeling 180 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.919 from the the previous conversations. By the way, I got a call a 181 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:13.519 doctor. Yeah, that's what it is. Okay, right, So yeah, 182 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.440 so Pelly, I'm good for him, you know. You know, 183 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.440 well we'll see what happened with both him and Keyshot. You know. Yeah, 184 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.799 Kesht was there celebrating with him, you know, pointing water and all 185 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:24.200 all this stuff. It was said that he couldn't be part of the games. 186 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.159 Uh but uh, you know, obviously a pretty good team. The 187 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.679 Jimi Hawkins was not on the team. He played I guess earlier and then 188 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.519 didn't play after that. Well, he was named to the all uh you 189 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.240 know, all league team, you know, because they had they had a 190 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.519 first you know, Summer League first and second team. He was on the 191 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.320 Summer League first team. I didn't see it on the court that yesterday. 192 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.000 Maybe he wasn't I missed. I don't want you go to Pelly, but 193 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:50.960 I want you good to him to finish the game rather than than Yeah, 194 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.360 I don't know, so I was curious to see could you check how many 195 00:11:54.440 --> 00:12:00.240 games Jimi Hawkins played for the Summer League but good for but for good for 196 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:03.639 Pillar. Yeah. The funny thing about it is Jay uh so we've seen 197 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:11.039 in the in the Millers guys raally you know what he's that none of these 198 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:13.240 so so have you mischieved. I mean, have we seen have we seen 199 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.320 Gabe York anytime? Not recently, not recently, And some of the other 200 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.879 guys that played in the type had some time in the league last right right 201 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.480 right right? Uh, And sometimes they latch on, or they're just the 202 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.360 league guys now, which is more powerful? Look after making one hundred grand 203 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.879 or more. Fine, you know that's a good job. Where I was 204 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:35.120 going was this, once your door and window opens, or you better make 205 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.679 your opportunity because it's gonna close, just faster close and when it slams shut. 206 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.240 Yeah, you have to break a window or something. It's very difficult. 207 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.080 Yeah, no, I hear you. One. Yeah, it'll slam 208 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.559 because there's always the next Chimera belt coming through. It's always the next bus, 209 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.200 Yes, always the next bus with better players or just as easily manageable 210 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.399 players. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 211 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.320 okay, so yeah, I mean yeah, let's you know, let's 212 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.000 try and get pale Pali on and yeah, we can so do next week 213 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.960 when we all start the season again, because next week is when we start 214 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.440 this thing full place exactly. Man, God, it's happening fast, let's 215 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.919 quickest already August, it's gonna be August. It's going to be August, 216 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.360 which makes me another year older, sixty five and still thinking about it. 217 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.480 This time this year, you're wearing those shirts that can make you look It's 218 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.159 not that I feel old, it's just that I feel like I am old, 219 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:33.000 right, say that one more time. I don't feel old, right 220 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:37.600 because I feel like my mind is still pretty young. I think I think 221 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.759 every old man feels that way. But but I am old. But from 222 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:46.480 a from a Ryan's standpoint, right, from a Henry's standpoint, from a 223 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.480 Wan standpoint, okay, right, because I'm like I could be their dads, 224 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.279 all of there's I could even be. I could probably be one's grandfather. 225 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.000 But and my body does things that I wish it wouldn't do, right, 226 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.639 like it pops in it? Sure, I think. Don't you think 227 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:07.960 every old guy feels the same way they think they think young, especially when 228 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.759 there's younger women, you know, forty thirty whatever, and you think you're, 229 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.039 oh, look at you know you're available. No you're not. You're 230 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.960 saying you get out of bendy. Oh old god, oh god, I 231 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.399 feel like crap. You know, my bowel movement, so everything he falls 232 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.440 apart real quick. What's old to you? What's old? We've done this 233 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.120 with other interns. What's old? How old is old? You can say 234 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.120 sixty five if you want to, you what seventy? If I wasn't in 235 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.600 the room, d you say sixty five seventy Okay, so no, but 236 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:43.879 that's good prospective. But that's five years old too. 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We have Dan 301 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:26.440 Guerrero, former UCLA a D now a College Athletics executive. Dan, How 302 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:30.279 are you great to be with you? Guys? Great to be then? 303 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:32.799 We didn't know what to call you because you're you know, you got your 304 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.160 hands in so many pots and we don't want we don't want to keep the 305 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.799 former UCLA a D thing in there, so we just called you an executive. 306 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:45.920 You're you're with a company that does what well. I'm actually involved in 307 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:51.519 two enterprises subsequent to my retirement at UCLA. In twenty twenty, I became 308 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:56.680 the president of the United States International University Sports Federation. It's actually called JUNI 309 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:03.279 USA now it's been rebranded, but we're the United States governing body for international 310 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:10.599 collegiate competition. So everything related to the FEESOO Summer Games, World Games, 311 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:15.279 the fees WO Winter Games, FISU World Championships, WU World Cups, all 312 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:21.519 of those fall under our auspices and I've been great. I've had the opportunity 313 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:23.640 to serve in that capacity for four years. I was on the board for 314 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.960 about six seven years prior to that, and it's been a blast opportunity to 315 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:34.039 give student athletes a chance to represent the United States and international competition, and 316 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.759 an opportunity for me to be able to travel around the world and represent the 317 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.319 United States. So that's one thing. And then most recently, I became 318 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:51.400 a partner in DHLO Search searches for a very facet of intercollegiate athletics in the 319 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:56.200 country and professional sports as well, but head football coaches, head basketball coaches, 320 00:20:56.240 --> 00:21:00.039 athletic directors, senior executive positions and the like. It's a lot of 321 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.559 fun get to work with a lot of my former colleagues and an opportunity to 322 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:10.599 stay involved in intercollegiate athletics, which is obviously for me. Before we get 323 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.799 into that, I just told Jay, let's label him this very happy former 324 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:19.359 ad. Given the state of the world right now, it's funny that you 325 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:25.920 say that, because to the person, every athletic director that I see tells 326 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.279 me that I got out at the right time. Yeah, exactly. Boy, 327 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.400 you look at the landscape and college athletics right now, and it is 328 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.400 certainly wild and wooly, and I'm glad I'm on this side of it at 329 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:37.640 this point in time, right right, So we have some questions about your 330 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:40.839 new job, well your second job that you refer to. You must be 331 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:44.559 having fun. And this is an old type of thing that we've We've known 332 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.920 this about search firms and all that stuff for years. Yeah, you know, 333 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:52.839 you know, certainly I'm on the I'm on the other side of it 334 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.000 now. It's an athletic director. You have an opportunity to engage and hire 335 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.480 many of these search firms as you try to land name the position, whether 336 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:04.200 it's a head football coach, head basketball coach, or a senior member of 337 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:11.680 your team. And I basically sat back after my retirement and decided to not 338 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.720 jump in the pool right away and get involved with any search firm or any 339 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:21.359 consultant firm. And I did that intentionally. I wanted to evaluate what was 340 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.599 in the future for me and where I felt I wanted to spend my time. 341 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:30.359 And last October I had an opportunity to engage with DHR. It's a 342 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:45.079 very reputable firm and blow location from domestic domestic searches to searches in the in 343 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.160 international cricket and all those kinds of things. So I thought that would be 344 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:53.079 fun. I get an opportunity to do it at my pace maximum flexibility. 345 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:56.599 I can do one search a year, fifty searches a year, and again 346 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.759 it's fun because I have an opportunity to not only engage with a lot of 347 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.359 my former colleagues, but to help a lot of my colleagues as they're seeking 348 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:08.359 the next opportunity for themselves. So tell us how this process works. Okay, 349 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.519 So you have a university. Let's say they're looking for a head football 350 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:17.279 coach. They come to you and say what is it. Well, first 351 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.839 and foremost, you would like all universities just give you a call and say, 352 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:22.160 hey, we want you to do this search. But it's a very 353 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:26.519 competitive business, as you can imagine, and there are several search firms out 354 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.079 there that have been doing this for many, many years. So my entree 355 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:36.240 to this business is such that the relationships that I've built over the years really 356 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:41.880 helps to foster that initial communication and that initial outreach from a president or from 357 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.160 an athletic director to say, hey, we'd like to bring you on board 358 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:49.359 to look to help us find a football coach or a basketball coach. And 359 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.200 so that's typically how it works. You know that there's going to be an 360 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.680 opening, either you know in advance that there's going to be an opening, 361 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.920 or you anticipate that that's going to happen, or the opening actually takes place, 362 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:04.200 and then you compete for the job, just like just like many other 363 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:10.839 firms do for businesses in every in every sector. If you're fortunate, you 364 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:17.839 can meet with the app, you can make your pitch and they and essentially 365 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:29.359 what you're asked to do them the Okay, Dan, Dan, You're you're 366 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:30.440 breaking up a little bit, so all of a sudden, so I'm not 367 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.880 sure if you've moved around somewhere, but you're you're you broke up a little 368 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:38.680 bit there. Okay, I'm sorry. So you said you you might you 369 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:44.160 get the you get the job. And now the university. How what do 370 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:47.480 they provide you so that you can go out and do the search for them? 371 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:53.400 Well, they you sit down and talk to them and what their needs 372 00:24:53.440 --> 00:25:06.000 are? You evaluate the landing. Who would be Oh, we're still breaking 373 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:18.319 up, Dan, give the director. You're still Dan, Dan, You're 374 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:26.759 you're you're still breaking up pretty really badly. Uh? Do you live in 375 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:38.079 like some nice hills somewhere that yeah, a lot, Let's okay, it's 376 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:45.759 still yeah, we're still we're still breaking up. We're still do Dan? 377 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.640 Do you do you have a landline you can call us from? Yeah? 378 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.400 Can you do that real quick? So because we're we're just not getting this, 379 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.880 Okay, I do not have a Oh you do not? Okay, 380 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.279 go outside by the c you're probably by the go by the pool or the 381 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:07.799 beach or wherever you are. I'm actually I'm actually in a very secluded area 382 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:14.839 and there should not be That's why don't you guys give me a call back? 383 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.160 Maybe we can get another. No, we're good, We're getting you 384 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:21.440 now wherever you are. That's that stay with us. All right, so 385 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:23.599 you're so you were talking about you you know, they kind of give you 386 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.039 away out. So now what exactly do you do? And how does this 387 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.079 work? Because it's it's such a mystery to everybody, right, what exactly 388 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.920 the Jay and I talked about this. We live in a world of information, 389 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:38.839 right, Uh, And and I'm sure you guys charge a significant amount 390 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:44.519 or maybe not. H What makes you guys do different things than than the 391 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:52.400 the internet can't do? If that makes any sense? We have Uh, 392 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:59.720 coaches are willing to move from there from their present jobs. We know what 393 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:04.480 they're contracts look like, we know what may be required for them to get 394 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:08.039 out of a contract. We can share that with our client. So our 395 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.359 client knows, if I want ex candidate, this is what it's going to 396 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:17.599 cost in order to get them. And then once we once we get a 397 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.000 pool of candidates, you know, for a coach for a head coaching job, 398 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:22.880 it could be six, it could be ten, it could be whatever, 399 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:27.759 then the client says we'd like to talk to X number facility, we 400 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:34.400 facilitate that. Obviously, confidentiality is the utmost importance because we don't want to 401 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:40.839 jeopardize anyone's position and any at any place where they might be presently working, 402 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.240 and you go through the process of doing the interviewing and providing the access and 403 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.599 the opportunity for those coaches to try to get the new job. And then 404 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:55.319 the client makes the determination ultimately who they'd like to hire, and we help 405 00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:59.240 facilitate that higher So let me throw this example at you. So we've been 406 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.480 here a long time. I was here when Cedric was here, a well 407 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.359 respected man, an old guy who knew everybody, everybody loves. Said, 408 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.480 you're kind of got that personality in these times. And they would go to 409 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.640 said, who, who do you think is going to be the who would 410 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.279 be a good guy for us to hire? And said would be the guy 411 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:18.319 he'd know the guys, blah blah blah. I think you should go chase 412 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.400 that guy. And it would be a smart choice, right of course, 413 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.920 because said knew what he was talking about. Dan Guerrero's same thing. Because 414 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.160 you got this reputation, you're well respected. You could do it by yourself. 415 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.519 I may be saying too much, but don't you think that's a possibility 416 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.519 too? Oh yeah, absolutely, you know. Not everyone who's looking for 417 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.400 a head football coach or head basketball coach will hire a search from. Okay, 418 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.839 some already know who they want to hire. For example, I go 419 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:51.319 back to my own UCLA days when I had a basketball opening. I went 420 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.079 after Ben Hollen and he was the only candidate I wanted. So I may 421 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.000 and and we were the situation for Ben became our coach, So I didn't 422 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.799 need a search firm in that regard. There may be any that happen, 423 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:21.000 uh will willing to There are those relates sure who they want to hire, 424 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:30.440 so them uh and and you know, it's a very very precarious situation. 425 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.599 I mean you may have your eyes set on one candidate and at the very 426 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.759 last minute, that candidate may decide that he or she does not want to 427 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.200 leave their existing job. Well you better have the backup plan in that backup 428 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.440 better be ready to go. And a search firm helps you deal with that 429 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:52.759 because no everyone's on that search, whether it's the media, whether it's your 430 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.559 fan base or whatever. Everyone wants everyone wants to know what's going on. 431 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.680 So you have to protect your client the process. So you're still breaking up 432 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.759 a little bit. But let me ask you, do the clients do the 433 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:11.279 coaches go to you too for you to help them. Yes, they do. 434 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.160 This is the way it works in many respects. A job opens up, 435 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:19.039 you'll have agents and coaches that will call you and say, hey, 436 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:25.359 my guy's interested or I'm interested. I may know individuals and people from my 437 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.400 firm may know coaches and clients, coaches and agents out there that we think 438 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.279 could be good fits for them, so we'll reach out to them. And 439 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.279 then the client themselves may say, hey, you know what, I'm really 440 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.079 interested in such and such a person and such and such a person. Can 441 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.440 you investigate and reach out to them to see if there might be an interest. 442 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.359 So there are a lot of factions that come into play in terms of 443 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:52.039 how you build that pool makes sense right and does make sense? And then 444 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:55.079 and then when you're talking about the money that's involved in some of these searches, 445 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.119 right, you know, seven eight, nine, ten million dollars for 446 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.839 these coaches, the stakes are pretty igh. On the one hand, you've 447 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.279 got to make sure that you've done all the work right, you know everything 448 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.920 you need to know so that you don't go get somebody and then you find 449 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.839 out a month later that they've got something in their past. Do you do 450 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.400 you are you able to do background checks and things like that? I mean, 451 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:21.039 how far does how far do you look into a specific coach? Oh? 452 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.359 Sure, when you're doing it, when you're doing a search of that 453 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:27.000 magnitude, if you will, then you want to make certain that you do 454 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:32.319 your homework and do your due diligence on those perspective clients, so that, 455 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:37.119 in fact, when a coach is hired, that you're not going to have 456 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.960 a situation that is embarrassing, if you will. So, no, you 457 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.519 you look at you look at an individual's past, and you you do what 458 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.480 you can to glean everything that you possibly can, whether it's through social media 459 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:56.160 or other mechanisms that come into play, so that you can share all of 460 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.720 that information with the client so that they're not in the dark about anything regarding 461 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.359 the perspective candidate, we only have a couple of minutes. I want to 462 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.039 I'm curious about this. I think you said you're from He's from Tucson, 463 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.559 right, Yeah, yeah, you're different. So one, what, I'm 464 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.720 not from here? So I've been here a long time though, What did 465 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.799 you want to do when you grew up here? And Two? Did this 466 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:19.839 little kid Dan imagine you where you become and what you've done with your life. 467 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.920 Well, uh, you know, like many young kids, dreams and 468 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:29.599 aspirations were to sign a professional base contract, like fifteen years in the Major 469 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:35.200 League, and uh, that didn't work. That didn't work. As you 470 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.319 will know, I did go to Cooperstown, but I wanted to buy. 471 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.960 I know, my dreams were never in any way, shape or form. 472 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:52.200 Being able to go to US in a baseball scholarship representation, uh, you 473 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.599 know, on its national team. Being able to go back to my alma 474 00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:00.799 mater and serve as an athletic director for eighteen years. Being the president of 475 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:07.759 the federation. Uh, basically uh operates the teams that compete international company, 476 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:12.680 as did when I was an undergraduate. Never know, I thought that that 477 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.680 was possible, this kid coming out of the Tucson Arizona. But it happened, 478 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.279 you know, And I'm grateful for every opportunity to job I've had, 479 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.920 and I've had a blessed life. Guys. Yeah, well back in myhood, 480 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:30.599 I grew up in Sciently they'd say, yeah, that's right, you're 481 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.279 right. Well, we we really enjoy how you on. We do. 482 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.519 We'll need to do this some more, and we want to go next time, 483 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.640 we're going to get more into what you got out of because this is 484 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:44.599 just crazy stuff, you know, with everything that's happening. It's all starts 485 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.960 this year, so with all the new conferences and things, so a lot 486 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.799 of fun. But we appreciate all that information because all that stuff, I 487 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.160 think, to a lot of us out here is a big mystery when you 488 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.480 know, when the coaching search happens, we know so little until we hear 489 00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.599 that the you know, we hear all the rumors and all that kind of 490 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.599 stuff. Finally coach gets haired. We go okay, now I got it. 491 00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:07.000 So appreciate the appreciate the time Dan happy to help guys that I'm willing 492 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.519 to talk me. Well, thanks again, thank you all right, bye 493 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.880 bye. Yeah, sorry about all the all the breaking up there. I 494 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.239 imagine him living living somewhere and up the hills in l A And and I 495 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.000 mean to the coast having some tough some tough reception. But we got most 496 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.360 of it in there. So it's good to have Dan. And how old 497 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:30.960 is he? He's older than you, I don't think so. See, 498 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.760 I know that's what I think, because he was was here, he made 499 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:38.800 of Coach Lopez and yeah there there were they They were buddies, I think, 500 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.880 because Lopez is about seven, like he's like, I know, he's 501 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:47.719 a friend of our of our friend Mike, Mike Frauds who uh who uh 502 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.159 went to school? Yeah, yeah, let me see. Let me find 503 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:58.039 his his uh his his wikipedia. Let's go to the break and then we 504 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.159 can kind of Okay, No, he's much older than me. Actually, 505 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.719 he's you seventy, gonna be seventy three. So he must have been him 506 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.719 and and he must have been teammates or you think one came after the other. 507 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.280 Yeah, back in the day. Yeah, yeah, all right, 508 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.760 okay, and he looks younger than his picture does. That's why said he 509 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.920 got out of just at the right time. I'm dang it, Steve, 510 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.119 I wonder if his idea looks great. All right, stick around, we'll 511 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.880 be right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's 512 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.159 been successful for nearly forty years. Now. Take a look back at the 513 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.280 Ludolsen era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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PEMA offers free career exploration classes 531 00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:52.480 so you can choose the field that's right for you. Learn how at PEMA 532 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:59.360 dot edu. Slash Someday Steve Bravera and Jaken Salez they have there. I 533 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:05.960 am a on Tucson Sports Stage Jack Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I 534 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.719 mean, iHeart radio. Hey, welcome back to wing the ball. Here 535 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:12.760 on Pop Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's day. We got Ryan 536 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.239 with us. I think that was allergic. Are you done? Are you 537 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.119 done? Sneezing? I've got one more? You go one more and they're 538 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.000 ready. Coach, I'll give you he's been sneezing since we went went to 539 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.840 break. I think I'm allergic to that shirt. Don't give it to me, 540 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:37.719 Ryan allerg Your allergic to Ryan's beard. Ato's job. Okay, you 541 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.440 got good to talk to Dan. Whoever we heard? We heard? Yeah, 542 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:43.079 we sorted to hear the combat. It broke up a bit, but 543 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.440 we've got a lot of a lot of information. Again. Really interesting thing, 544 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.239 you know, because it's a you know when you say what what what 545 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.719 can you get that you can't get it? Well, he said, you 546 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.199 know, we find out about their contracts. We I mean, main thing 547 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.599 is they find out is a guy interested, right right, That's that's it 548 00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:01.239 right there. It is somebody interesting. But the thing is, like you 549 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.480 said, there's a lot of them out there, right, Who do you 550 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.000 trust and who do you go to? Who do you know? But also 551 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.400 say, like we said, this is thirty years ago, who do you 552 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.920 want to trust? Call? Said, and he'll try you guys. Well 553 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.679 again, you know, if it's somebody like him who has the contact, 554 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.960 who can call pretty much any school, right and who knows you know, 555 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.880 you know, somebody somewhere and get that information. Yeah, you know. 556 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.559 So that's what the so called back channel, right, Yeah, But sometimes 557 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.000 you can't do that or you're sitting there and you know, as he said, 558 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:35.360 you know, coaches and their agents start calling you, and now maybe 559 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.320 you maybe somebody calls you who you didn't think was available, and now you 560 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.639 find out that they are, and so you look at them. So yeah, 561 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.239 so there's there. They do serve a purpose, you understand. Now. 562 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.519 They're charging a whole hell a lot of money for that, are you 563 00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.599 talking? I would assume two hundred thousand and three thousand dollars to me. 564 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.599 To me, that's if you're gonna pay one hundred bucks. That's too much. 565 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:53.920 You guys know, they should know who they're going to get in the 566 00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.000 first place. But I get all the back across. So let me let 567 00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.360 me talk to you about this, because I think this is an interesting thing. 568 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.280 When I asked about what he had hoped to do growing up in Tucson, 569 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:06.679 Arizona, and what do you, I think he smoke for every guy 570 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.920 like you liked me. I don't know about you, Ryan who played ball 571 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.639 as a kid and wanted to be a pro baseball player, you know, 572 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.840 and then when that dream do I dream, now, you figure out you 573 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.480 gotta do something, you gotta do something with your life and be be good 574 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.960 at it or whatever. But but I was one of those guys you know, 575 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.639 you dream about doing and then you realize there's a lot of Well my 576 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.000 dream ended when I got when I became a freshman in high school and it 577 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.840 still didn't weigh a hundred pounds, And I thought, okay, that's and 578 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:37.239 I and I and I go to s Worrow High School where they were all 579 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.800 bigger than me. You know, my my freshman year in high school, 580 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.039 two guys on the baseball team got drafted eventually, No that year out of 581 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:50.519 high school. Yeah, you're talking about older guys. Yeah, were two 582 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.119 seniors. Jim Butcher played, uh played Uh. He played with the Rangers 583 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.760 for a number He was in the majors for a number of years. Not 584 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.239 Jim Butcher, John Butcher, John Butcher. Well, you he would have 585 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:07.760 graduated in seventy three, four seventy three or seventy fo okay a sore Baseball 586 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.719 went back to back state championships with those guys. And I can't remember the 587 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.440 name of the other guy. He was an infielder. But you know, 588 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.679 two guys from that group got drafted, you know. And then I you 589 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.119 know Tom Weiedenbauer, who I played Little league baseball with, and he you 590 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.639 know, he was you know, he he I think he had a cup 591 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.480 of coffee in the majors, spent a lot of time at Triple A, 592 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.079 and became a coach. So did you stop stop trying out out to your 593 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.880 freshman year or did you try Now I tried out my son. I tried 594 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.239 out freshman sophomore year, and I didn't make the team either, so that 595 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:38.840 was it, and that was kind of that. That was him and I 596 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.199 played freshman JV football and that was that. And then he got killed. 597 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:45.719 You know, I found out after my freshman year. But I thought it 598 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.119 was pretty good. I was fast. But after my freshman year, you 599 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.400 know, at the at the at the at the team banquet when they say 600 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:58.960 something about every player, the freshman coach said that I was too small to 601 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:00.599 play and he was afraid to put in the game and only played in two 602 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.320 games. You know, he said it was afraid to put me. We 603 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.920 could fight a helmet for him, No, I I had a big head, 604 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.639 Yeah I had. Yeah, I had trouble finding helmets. Yes, 605 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.519 it's awesome put you. They put a helmet on me. But then the 606 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.239 shoulder pads were just just too damn big. You know. The football pants 607 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.559 went down to the middle of my calves. So that was it. That 608 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.719 was the end of my sports well, that was the end of my high 609 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.239 school sports career. I started playing again when I got older and got you 610 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.000 know, grew up a little bit, and I played baseball. When you 611 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:37.000 got older and you found ringers to help you play in the baseball and then 612 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.760 then I had a coaching career, and then I've given you grief. I 613 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.800 almost said the bad word. Uh. Green told me said he was in 614 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:47.559 the he was in the major leagues. He could hit the ball. Who 615 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:53.760 are you talking about, Jason Hockemy, He said, what are you doing? 616 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.079 DH? And he's batter than the major leagues? Like, oh, 617 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.360 I didn't think of that. He's hit me major league pitching. Why why 618 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:07.320 are you batting for him? Okay, yeah, you know, I just 619 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:08.320 need a little help there. Good point, you get a good points, 620 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.800 good point, Thank you, thank you. Yeah that was Jason. Uh 621 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.159 you know, I mean I knew he could pitch, and we pitched him 622 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:19.039 as often as we go. But uh, but yeah, I posted I 623 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.559 put the lineup of and I'm like, why why is he being d aged? 624 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:23.639 You know, he put it in the middle because he was the Patrick. 625 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.079 He can't hit well. He can hit major league pitty. So he 626 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.519 was in the National League a lot of years. So right, we saw 627 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.599 major league pictures and I like it to the first time. You know how 628 00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.639 the those fields at High Corbett, the Annex fields, they have a big 629 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.840 screen, uh in the outfield, and he hit it first first at bat, 630 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.599 he hits the ball into the screen up there. I'm like, okay, 631 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.000 I guess I shouldn't be dhing for him, So that just meant one 632 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.480 less guy gets to play. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If anybody wants 633 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:53.920 to call and talk about their dreams that were shattered when you were twelve, 634 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.960 give us a call or eighteen or whatever whatever time would you realize you could 635 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:00.920 here was a curveball and you say, oh crap, you know what, 636 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:05.400 I could hit a curveball. I couldn't hit a fast and then that and 637 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.039 that, and that was sort of my and that I'm talking about. You 638 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.920 know, when I was playing city league baseball as an adult, guys did 639 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:15.840 pictures, didn't know pictures. You know, they throw me curveballs, and 640 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.400 like, dude, if you throw me a fastball, I can't throw the 641 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.679 curveball. So did you wear glasses back then? Not to play baseball? 642 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:29.239 No, okay no, because I was hard to see contact. No, 643 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.239 when I played, Uh, that was still when I when I could wear 644 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.920 contacts and didn't need reading glasses like you need now. No, No, 645 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.480 I'm talking about when you were small. Oh yeah I had to Yeah, 646 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.039 there were no contact I didn't get contacts, Like, yeah, I wanted 647 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.559 my wife, my wife. My mom was like you, I'm not buying 648 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.559 new contacts. You wear glasses. So I didn't get contacts until I could 649 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.559 buy it. So but that's that's a whole another thing getting into my child. 650 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.880 But uh much information, Yeah, way too much information. And I 651 00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.519 was always busting my glasses playing football. I may wear glasses in my helmet, 652 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.599 right. Yeah, my classes, the sports, those sports classes, 653 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.000 you know, those plastic plastic you know what I'm talking about. That made 654 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.159 you look more geeky than anything in this world. You never get a date 655 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:14.480 worring those babies. Well my my, my mom wasn't buying me those either. 656 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:15.840 Yeah, yeah we were, And then should get pissed if I broke 657 00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.960 my real glasses? And what do you want? No more sports for you? 658 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:29.159 Go get a job at McDonald's. So anyway, we we've gone down, 659 00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.280 we've gone down the road that today this isn't isn't aren't great memories for 660 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:37.360 me? Okay you're not, because I'm not. I just thought I was 661 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:42.280 a better athlete than I got credit for. Okay, you know, here's 662 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.960 here's my here's my long time regret because of my size I should have wrestled. 663 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.960 That would that would have been probably I should have wrestled. And the 664 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.920 whole reason I didn't wrestle because after freshman football and I gotten the hell beat 665 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:53.079 out of me because I was on the scout team, right, I was 666 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.079 always out there for you know, playing against the first team and stuff like 667 00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.800 that, and uh so I got the i'll be dot me so at the 668 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:02.280 end of football, like, I don't want to practice anymore. And I 669 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.599 should have wrestled my freshman year. If I would have, I could have 670 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.519 wrestled my entire my entire time at at school. And then I just didn't. 671 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.119 It never did so, so so I'll just real quick for me. 672 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.719 So I played baseball, played football all that baseball mostly in my high school, 673 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.119 and then ran track. I used to be pretty fast, skinny white 674 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.679 kid who can run fast. Then I go to state state championships in Hobbes, 675 00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.920 New Mexico with my junior year and run a different class than this. 676 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.760 But I wrote, we see the Hobbs guys run, and I don't know 677 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.400 if you know the reputation guys fastest dudes in the state. Easy. There's 678 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.960 a guy named Ruben Berry. You played, played here. He played here. 679 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:44.880 They dropped the button and still won, and he was the acre. 680 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.840 When I met him here and we talked, I said, how in the 681 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.480 hell fast were you guys? Because they dropped them? But still I remember, 682 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.199 I remember when they brought him because they were trying. His teammate was 683 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:57.840 Tim Smith, the dude that played for the reds and went to the Redskins. 684 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.039 Uh, because my brother Rick at that time, he was trying to 685 00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:07.400 get into the whole agent business and all that kind of stuff, and he 686 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.000 was yeah early yeah, because I remember ruben Berry was like on the eighty 687 00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.639 three, eighty four he was too yeah, And so he was trying to 688 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.480 get into some of that athletic administration, you know, all that kind of 689 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.559 stuff, and he decided it was a very sleazy business and got got out. 690 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:30.239 But he actually there was a real close friend of his that was from 691 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.320 New Mexico, the Rick, and so the U of A reached out to 692 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.559 those guys to try and help them get Tim Smith and Ruben Berry. And 693 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.400 they only got ruben Berry, right, yeah. Tim Smith went to Texas 694 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.440 Stay and then the reds He had that famous game with his one claim to 695 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.840 fame man with the Redskins with the Redskins, right, Rubin didn't play a 696 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.280 whole lot yere. He's just he didn't He was just fast fast, yeah 697 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:53.119 he I mean he you know, they tried to use them in a bunch 698 00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.159 of different ways. He couldn't really catch the ball. Yeah, no, 699 00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:58.039 No, he was a he ran track, I think, but he was 700 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.280 very fast, very fast. I said. Remember they dropped the batar and 701 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:06.840 they still wanting to get how in the world happened. Yeah. Now yeah, 702 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:08.159 those guys that are you know, early eighties kind of guys. Yeah, 703 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.559 fun stuff. Okay, all right, we got five more minutes. 704 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.000 Maybe you get a call here any second now if he'd like to call us 705 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.079 five two o four one, six, seventy four forty we have who in 706 00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:21.360 the next hour. So we have James ready, h he's a he's uh, 707 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.679 he's an athletic trainer. Uh. He's a clinical director at at Banner 708 00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:31.599 Health Banner University Medicine, and they're doing they're doing free uh physicals this Friday. 709 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.440 So we want to talk about that. We've got to call let's take 710 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.679 this. Hi, are on there on the ball, buddy? Uh, 711 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:42.400 I want to kind of let you know about the dreams being dashed. So 712 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.119 we were playing over at uh At Sports Park. You know, was in 713 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:51.000 my funnies and stuff, and we were sponsored by this place in Tucson called 714 00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.719 Power Plus. They were, you know, a big Harley Davidson store. 715 00:47:53.840 --> 00:48:00.440 We had the whole uniform to get up all that stuff and ended up playing 716 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.480 in a tournament. You know. We were in the highest league there, 717 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:06.760 which I think was a B league. We would crush everybody. We had 718 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.599 a really really good team. So we got Harley Davidson, the Power Plus 719 00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.320 store to sponsor us to go to like a World's tournament, thinking that we 720 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.760 were that good. The first team that we played was the Arizona Death Team. 721 00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.840 They beat us twenty three to three, and we were done. Now 722 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.480 what what? What was the softball? Was? This baseball? Was this 723 00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.480 softball? So softball? Ye? What years were these? Oh? Boy, 724 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:39.719 just had to have been late late nineties. Okay, okay, so 725 00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:44.280 you're like forty something then you're in the forties. Yeah, I just turned 726 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.159 fifty last year. Yeah okay, yeah, I remember going to play over 727 00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:49.840 there. Those dudes hit the ball like yeah. Well, there was a 728 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.880 team that used to travel around called Steals. Do you remember those guys. 729 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.599 Oh I remember them. Yeah, well we played them once and they they 730 00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.920 were It's just every ball was a home run, right or or they hit 731 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.039 it at you and you just got out of the way. Yeah. Yeah, 732 00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.679 they hit the fence and you know, it's like, oh, you 733 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.280 know, I'm gonna hit a line drive to the fence, did you know? 734 00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:14.119 And those were bullets? Did you play in high school? I didn't. 735 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:15.639 I didn't played over sunny side. Oh okay, okay, were you 736 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.239 halfway decent? Yeah? That was pretty good. Okay, so that's why 737 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.559 you were playing pretty well? Yeah, okay, No, all of us 738 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:24.320 have these stories. Yeah, well you realize what the hell am I doing 739 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:30.159 here? All right? Hey, thanks for Collings story. Yeah, no, 740 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.320 I remember that. Uh you know that the team steals and they came 741 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.639 to They came to town playing at sports part I actually from I don't remember 742 00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.400 where they were were from here though, No, they weren't from here, 743 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.920 and but they were traveled around. You know, you'd pay them to come, 744 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:45.840 and so they were we were. We were. We had a pretty 745 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:50.239 good team also at sports parks, so we got picked to play them. 746 00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.119 Unfortunately, I blew out my ankle the night before, so I went to 747 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.000 the game, but I didn't get to play in the game. So and 748 00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.800 uh, but I just I'm like they hit if they were to hit that 749 00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:01.719 at me, I'm just I'm turning my back and getting out of the way. 750 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:06.639 So Victor didn't didn't have enough guts to call. You said they made 751 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.679 a movie about Jay Rudy. No, I wasn't even Rudy, That's what 752 00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.920 I wasn't. I wasn't even Rudy. Rudy was like a foot taller than 753 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:22.679 me. I'm not lying. Called I was I my song When I went 754 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.880 for my physical my sophomore year, I mean my freshman year of high school, 755 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.400 going to and I went for the physical to go play freshman football. 756 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:36.360 I was fort eleven and a quarter and I weighed ninety eight pounds and I 757 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:42.679 had weightlifted all somewhere long, so I'd put on some lbs. And I 758 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.960 mean, I was strong, but I was little. You're wrestling your dressling 759 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.960 career? Should I was tiny? I should? I should? I could 760 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.119 have wrestled at like one oh five and I would have been a stud instead. 761 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:57.519 I said, forget it. I hate it. In my high school 762 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:04.079 athletic career was over. But I'm better. I think it was not started 763 00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.559 before. Yeah, it almost didn't start. It almost didn't start, Okay. 764 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:12.599 I'm still trying to find out if if if Arizona used a a if 765 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.280 anybody knows out there, if Aarzon to use a search firm when they hired 766 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:20.199 Kevin someone, No, they couldn't have got we got to call that search 767 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.480 from it. There's no way I think they did. His name was mister 768 00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:28.039 Robins, doctor Robins. Yeah, maybe there couldn't have been. They may 769 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.039 have had like Rocky and and and they may have tried to vet him, 770 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:37.480 but in terms of they want to issue ask for their money back, if 771 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.159 they did, that's what I'm trying to you know, they they could not. 772 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.679 It was it was a Robins call. I don't even think he was 773 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:45.840 maybe just okay, whatever you want, doctor. Yeah, honestly it might 774 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.840 be. Could you know it could have been exactly that exactly because that was 775 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.039 just too much of a bad mistake, even though he was the hot guy. 776 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:58.599 There was some glaring things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially the 777 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.599 I don't give a crap out right, And that's the whole that's the whole 778 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.360 danger of where you fire your coach and you got to have a coach within 779 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:09.400 two days or fans lose their minds. Right, you're hind. Like I 780 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.880 said, it takes longer to get hired McDonald's than it does to get hired 781 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.880 as the football coach somewhere sometimes. Right, Okay, we're at the top 782 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.599 of the hour. We're going to take our break. We're to come back 783 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:24.519 Kevin's You're not Kevin, you're Ryan. No, that doesn't count for that. 784 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.920 Ryan's here with breaking news, so we'll uh, we'll get into that 785 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.039 when you get when we get back. That's about forgiving me, I know, 786 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:31.760 stick around.