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Everyone, Welcome to another episode of
the Hardwoodknox Podcast. Got a ton of

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mail bag questions to get through.
Anyone again, who is here live with

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us one last time? You can
ask questions in the room. You could

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request to speak. I will throw
you on just as a reminder you are

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being recorded. Let's just get right
into this because we have a ton of

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questions right now. The first question
that I thought was really interesting, just

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based off all the injuries we have
seen in the playoffs this year, is

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should the NBA delay some of these
games because of the injuries? And that

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came from at Ida Why Russ I
will say, you can't do that,

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just because obviously the schedules already been
made. But there would be the element

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of, oh, why didn't you
Why are you delaying the conference finals when

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you didn't do that during the semi
finals. Who knows if that gives James

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Harden more time to rest for the
Nets, maybe you get Kyrie back somehow

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for Brooklyn Lebron and a d of
course with the Lakers. So yeah,

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I just don't think you could do
that, you know, morally competitively,

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it just wouldn't make sense. The
other interesting thing here, and I think

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if you gave the Suns as an
example, truth serum, they want to

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start the Western Conference Finals on time
rather than wait because while they're without CP

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three, the Clippers are without Kawai. And I'm not saying that, you

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know the Suns would lose to the
Clippers if they had Kawai, I would

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still pick the Suns. That would
be you know, full strength, I'd

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go Souns over Clippers and seven.
But you know you're gonna get CP three

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back, and we hope he's okay
after returning that positive COVID test. Kawai

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looks like he's probably just not going
to play again during the playoffs or during

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this season. We don't know the
extent of his ACL injury yet, and

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so if you're a Phoenix, it
would almost behoove you to not have the

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series delayed, try to play the
one to three games without Chris Paul,

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just so that in the event Kawai
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him time to return. Because I
think for them, and this might just

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say how I speak to how I
feel about their depth and also Devin Booker

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in general, as one of his
band wagoners. I think that they can

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navigate a Clippers team without Kawai just
as well as they could. If the

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Chris Paul comes back and you have
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I don't think that's going to happen. And the NBA will not postpone these

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games. You just you can't do
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the start of the playoffs, like
maybe, but you have to delay all

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the series. You have to get
into all these all these injuries, so

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no, I can't see them being
delayed. We have a question in the

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chat from Jake Weist, what do
you think who do you think is going

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to come out of the East.
So selfishly, and I don't want to

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date this for our actual podcast listeners, but I have the Sixers coming out

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of the East this year. Sixer
Sons were my finals pick, with the

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Sons winning the finals. I'm actually
on record that is not me just picking

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as the playoffs unfolded. I don't
think the Sixers are going to beat the

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Bucks though if they if they end
up beating in Landa. Just having to

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watch Philly's half court offense is it's
brutal down the stretch of games and the

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Ben Simmons stuff, I feel really
bad for him. It's also incredibly legitimate

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when you have someone who's just so
disengaged from the offense by design, and

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there are other things that Doc Rivers
maybe could do to keep him involved later

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in games. But then you just
have to grapple with this idea that,

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oh, he'll get fouled with the
blow on his hands, and he might

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have one of those nights where he
shoots four or fourteen from the foul line

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or just something you know, terribly
bad like that, and that's a real

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issue for them, and they were
already kind of short that shot. Creator.

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I'm a big believer that you can
win a title with someone like Nicole

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Yokich or Joel Embiid as your best
player. I don't think there's a replacement

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for having that face up, wing
or guard down the stretch of really close

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games. And I'm not even saying
a Damian Lillard, who is just dude,

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is an alien. Any clutch shot
he takes like you have to assume

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it's going in, and the data
like pretty much backs that up. Put

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Like a Jamal Murray in Denver,
you could tell that they missed him a

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ton throughout that postseason series. Philly
kind of had that element with Jimmy Butler

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let him get away, that situation
soured. Don't want to rehash that.

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The closest they come to that player
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might even be the better option there. I think he's more of an every

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level score than Tobias Harris really is. That's all. It was just not

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Tobias Harris's strength. But yeah,
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can bully some some smaller wing defenders, and Tobias Harris is really good if

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you ask him to create too much. Even when he was on that Clippers

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team where he was essentially, you
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Again, they ran through Daniel Gallinari
a lot more because he's just more

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comfortable in those types of situations.
And so if you're looking at Tyrese Maxie

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or Shake Milton as your best just
sort of perimeter option there, that becomes

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a problem. And we've seen it
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force the ball out Joel Embiad's hand, which one it's not easy to do,

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but you can't do it. The
Sixers just don't have a ton of

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other viable options around him, and
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more of an onus on him during
crunch time after he just was super high

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usage for the first three quarters of
games, and he has to defend his

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ass off in addition to being everything
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him getting gassed down the stretch,
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defended or they're not sending a ton
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he might just be more inclined to
defer anyway, which puts you in all

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sorts of trouble. So I'll stand
by my Philly pick because I'm stubborn,

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and it would be really cool if
my actual final setup was right. And

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I feel probably better against Philly going
up against Milwaukee, who tends to crap

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the bed on offense every once in
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than I would if they were going
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playing and James Harden was playing on
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or whatever it ends up being.
I still just you look at the Bucks

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and Drew Holiday. You figure has
to play better at some point. Chris

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Middleton parentally underrated, he's fantastic,
and then having Jannis to just bulldoze his

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way towards the basket. It seems
like that team they're probably just as shallow

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as Philly, but at the top, the talent is there and when you're

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looking, specifically at crunch time.
So my head is saying that the Sixers

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will not come out of the East, but again, I picked the Sixers

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to come out of the East.
Initially, I have to ride with it.

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I'll die with it is more like
what I need to say, But

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I'm gonna ride with it anyway.
Meyer rothbamb Aske is Tylo a good coach

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for playing Terrence Man or a bad
coach for not playing him earlier in the

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playoff Slash series? Just the correction
there for Meyer that is superstar future multi

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time MVP. Terrence Man just wanted
to get that correction out there. Look

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the I think the most bizarre thing
Tyler said. I can't remember which game

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it was before, but Tylu said
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It took him too long to get
away from those rondo minutes. At

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the same time, I think he
has shown the willingness to foot and fiddle

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with his rotation in the playoffs in
part because of injuries. You know,

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we Gui was injured, but even
Sergeibaka as well. That's that's going to

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really just quote you into throwing out
more unconventional front court units in general.

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But you look at the lineups the
Clippers have played, and there's it looks

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mattingly inconsistent by the sheer number of
five man combinations we have seen I think

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roughly exactly actually it's two trillion five
man combinations for the playoffs. But seriously,

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I think the experimental nature of him
ends up being a good thing in

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the long run. There are some
obvious lineup questions where it's like, hey,

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why are you trying to get away
of Why are you trying to get

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away with Rondo for so long?
It took me too long to get away

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from that randomly throwing to Marcus Cousins
into that jazz series at the beginning of

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it. At the same time,
it seems like he's trying to get a

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feel for what he has and he
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against Utah. It worked a lot
better than I expected against Utah, just

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given the I know, the Clippers
have the personnel to downsize. I just

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don't look at, you know,
when you're seeing some of the players who

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log minutes at center for them.
If it's a Marcus Morris, if it's

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a Nick Batoum, I just didn't
think that was going to be a mismatch

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that punished Utah in the same way
Houston did a couple of years back with

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their small ball units. Still,
I think I would lean towards my co

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host Adam, who is not here
today. Other engagements something about it being

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Father's Day or whatever. He has
a kid and a family, talk about

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terrible priorities on his path. But
I lean towards Tyler being a really good

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and maybe underrated coach. Yes,
I'm throwing pot shots at you, Adam,

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because I'm just going to assume that
you listen to this. So yeah,

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let's you know, let's see what
he does during this Phoenix series.

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That's just going to be that has
to be a chess match more than anything

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we've seen. Monny Williams is willing
to experiment as well, get away from

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Darry or starts at the five units
if they're not working, or lean on

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them like we saw in the regular
season, if Ayton starts roller coaster ring,

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which he is not been doing during
the playoffs, He's just been fucking

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spectacular. I'd say pardon my friends, but I'm actually not sorry. Aton

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has just been He's been annihilating dudes
on just more aggressive on offense, and

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even better, has proved really solid
defensively for Phoenix. That's going to be

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fun. I want to see Chris
Paul come back. I'd love to see

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Kahi come back to I hate seeing
stars get injured. I hate seeing players

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get injured. I want to see
full strength series. That being said,

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I'm with Chris Paul out for a
little bit, and then with Kauai,

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I'm just assuming he's done for the
postseason. I mean just I see a

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cl it's in his right leg.
He's had issues with that in the past.

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He's just I'm gonna assume he's done. That's going to be a really

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interesting chess match, and so maybe
we'll get a better feel or Tyler was

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a chance to really build up his
reputation or harm it through this series.

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Jake Weis did say in the chat
as we were just talking about the sixes

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before, I think Janice is going
to struggle a lot through Joel and Lane

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rather than Katie or Griffin. I
would probably agree. I just don't know

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what to expect. There were moments
in the or there have been moments in

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the Hawks series, and look,
we're talking like Philly's gonna be in this.

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We have a question about how the
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we'll get to that in a second. But and Bead had some just that

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the first like early on in the
Hawks series, maybe he was still getting

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a feel for how he was going
to play on that meniscus injury, but

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he just didn't like always look right. And if he's really as tattered as

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he's been later in games, that's
going to provide Yannis with opportunities even in

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the half court. I think the
key though against the Sixers for Yannis,

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and it's like this, against all
teams, you need to score earlier in

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the shot clock. When you look
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in that second round series against Brooklyn, like they were not getting as many

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of their looks in that like eighteen
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fifteen second range, even breaking it
down by both those slots. So that's

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just always going to be the key. I do. I agree that Philly

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just has more personnel to throw at
Yannis if they want here than Brooklyn could

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ever hope, not just Joan Bead
you have Ben Simmons to use too,

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if you really want to go that
route. And I think, and people

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are probably gonna shame me for this, you couldn't try to Buias Harris depending

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on like what the offense from Milwaukee
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half court and they've slowed down and
your defense is set, you could give

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to Buias Harris a crack at that. One thing the Sexers might want to

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just watch is their bench heavy units. They did save them a little bit

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against the Hawks in one of those
games. But if you come out of

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that rounds, but you're probably gonna
need to get away from that. Let's

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get to that question that's about Atlanta
and Philly. But it comes from Kim.

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Who is an easier matchup for the
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it's Atlanta and I don't. I'm
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this because we're recording this like just
before the tip of or No, we're

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recording this well before the tip of
the Sixers Hawks Game seven. And I

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don't want to again date this too
hard, but you look at Atlanta and

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I don't know that they would have
a good Gianness defender to begin with.

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You're now missing DeAndre Hunter, who
I assume would have gotten a ton of

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reps against him. I guess you
could try and get away with Clint Capella

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on him, and I actually don't
hate that, but you need Yannest to

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be at the five in those scenarios
because then you're gonna be taking him away

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from Brook Lopez or just the other
matchups which are personnel on the court are

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going to get wonkier. I will
say, I've been pleasantly surprised with how

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John Collins has played defensively in the
postseason. He did you know Julius Randall

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was terrible in that first round series. But like, John Collins has some

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really tough reps against him, and
so kudos him. We've even seen him

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have some just good moments where he's
helping against Joel and Beads. He's defended

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to buy his Harris a little bit
as well, and so really kudos to

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him on that. Like those would
be your best option, though I don't

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know what else you try. You're
not gonna try Badanovitch against Joannis. Like,

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do we get to a point where
they have to rely on Solomon Hill

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or Tony Snell. You're that's just
going to be a problem. And you

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move over to Philly and there's just
they have a ton of you know,

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not having Danny Green at least for
the start of that would be series could

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be a problem. But you have
Matis Sybel who can check Drew Holliday or

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Chris Middleton. You have Ben Simmons
who could check whoever you want him to,

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including Jannis. And then you have
dwell Embid, who I don't know

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if you want him as a primary
on your honest but if you're gonna have

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him dropped back, like yeah,
he'll be there to make life help on

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Jannis too. So I do think
that Philly poses the tougher matchup. But

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just what we've seen from Trey Young
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downhill, the decisions he's going to
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if he stops for his floater,
finds Sean Collins on those those lobs,

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sprays out to shooters on the Hawks
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are equipped to give Milwaukee e trouble. But I think Milwaukee matches up better

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defensively, which which matters to me, old friend bear as you guys are

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pretty reasonable and realistic about this stuff. So here goes what can the Jazz

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do to improve? I mean not
catching a team that's on fire and getting

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healthy obviously helps well. They consider
moving Gobar possible with the current contract,

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Conley's future. Who to draft?
I haven't gotten in to enough of my

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draft prep work. Yeah, I'm
just an eleven hour crash course guy there.

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You're not going to draft Someboddy that
helps you if you're Utah immediately it

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just doesn't happen. You're not trading
Gobert. And it's not because of the

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contract. I know. He signs
that massive I think it was like two

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hundred and six million. It can
be up worth extension. He's a three

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time defensive Player of the Year who
just makes your entire defense. He is

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a defense onto himself. I think
the bigger problem for Utah was it's wing

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defenders letting I know it's designed to
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playing the best jump shooting team in
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shooting teams, depending on how you
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the Blazers aren't there anymore, and
the Celtics clad jump trust, they're not

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alive anymore. But the Clippers were
a fantastic three point shooting team. When

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you have Kauai, you have someone
who just wants to torch you from the

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mid range. They were letting guys
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think that's been the biggest problem for
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defenders. It was something that we
cited earlier or even before the season,

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and I still think it came to
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in the regular season because I think
Rudy Gobert can give you a top five

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defense on his own. But when
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time to manipulate their lineups, and
then yes, you're you know, Rudy

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Gobert can't be responsible for contesting three
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range all the time. But now
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the Clippers were also downsizing that starts
to I don't want to say it turns

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Rudy Gobert into a liability, but
it does put him in an awkward situation

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where there's only so much he can
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so the two things I would look
at is can you just get a bigger

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wing defender to throw at like it's
you're not gonna get in a world offender.

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You're gonna be working with the MIDI
mid level exception, and that's assuming

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you're willing to use it. But
five point seven million dollars is the most

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you're going to spend on a free
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But that gets all you know,
they don't really have a ton of assets

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themselves. But then they would also
be hardcapped, which is tough. If

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you want to bring back Mike Conley, I will say on the Mike Conley

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front, pay him, bring him
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a damaging contract from a team perspective. But I think what we also saw

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earlier on in the Clipper series was
that he's kind of mission critical to keeping

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Rudy Gobert involved on the offensive end. When you just look at who's going

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to find Rudy Gobert most efficiently or
look for him on his roles. I

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think he's just better equipped to do
that than Donovan Mitchell, which is why

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he's such a huge part of Utah's
success. So definitely bring back Conley,

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you're not trading Gobert. The other
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though, is you need to give
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I know you don't want to pull
your two hundred million dollar man in those

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situations, but if it's down the
stretch and you see that it's becoming a

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problem, it would be good to
have someone who can play some small ball.

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Five and is that you know is
Rudy Gobert's friend Nicholas Patum. He's

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going to be a free agent.
Would he considers signing in Utah. That's

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someone who can give you those minutes
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He really doesn't qualify for the athletic
part though of that. Otto Porter

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Jr. Someone that Utah we can
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dating back to his I think these
twenty seventeen free agency and I believe

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they were supposed to be interested in
him if he was going to get bought

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out by Orlando, which never happened, He's going to be looking to reboot

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a stock. Maybe he wants to
go somewhere that can promise him a starting

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spot, which Utah clearly cannot.
And also, I want to make this

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clear, Otto Porter Junior is not
being good aside from the injuries and questionable

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partying during a pandemic, but the
injuries, the offense has been off for

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him. I would just assume he'll
shoot better in Utah when his role is

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simplified compared to what's happening in Chicago
and Orlando. But those are like the

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level of players that you're looking at
with what Utah can spend, and I

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would say, go out there and
get someone who can give you those minutes

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at least some more explosive minutes as
a wing defender. David Nwaba's a name

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I thought about. It's you need
to go after like a Jay crowd Are.

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I'm not trying to troll here,
but he would be the perfect player

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for this team. And there aren't
a ton of those guys, especially ones

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that are bargains, just sort of
floating around the free agency markets, but

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that that's what you're gonna have to
do, is make those moves on the

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margins. And you need to also
give those guys more looks during the regular

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season because you can't just all of
a sudden go to the postseason and decide

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like, oh right, we're gonna
we're gonna go this route. You want

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to get a feel for what they're
really able going to be to give you

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there. I expect the Jazz to
look largely the same. If there's something

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they can do, though, diversify
your your wing rotation or even just your

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front court rotation to be better if
you can fold that player into one.

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Like I said, and and Ido
Porter is probably the best fitting slash,

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best actual option that they could get
given what what they could spend. It

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is interesting, though, because I
know Utah was injured, Mike Conley only

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making his debut in that Game six. Donovan Mitchell, I know Mark Jackson

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kind of suggested that he was faking
his injury. He was not faking fucking

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injury that was bothering him throughout the
series. And so if you're healthier,

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you probably beat the Clippers, you
think. At the same time, there's

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really no excuse you blew a twenty
was at twenty five point lead like in

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that game, and you also lost
the previous game when they didn't have Kawhi

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Leonard. There's just you know,
you were missing Mike Commy as well.

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But Rudy Gobert, Donovan, Mitchell, Joe Ingles, button Bydanovich. That

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team is better, at least should
be on paper than a Clippers team that's

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headlined by Paul George and has Reggie
Jackson and Nick Patom. Fantastic stories of

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this seasons, by the way,
and I know it'll get people into the

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conversation of these guys maybe not playing
as well as they should be in smaller

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markets only to end up in a
flagship lamber market and start playing better.

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Reggie Jackson was just genuinely injured in
Detroit all the time. You know,

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they built a pretty formidable offensive attack
at one point around his pick and roll

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wizardry. So his really isn't a
surprise. Nick Patom, Yeah, he

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cratered in Charlotte before he was basically
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I don't really know what that is. That was just sort of a resurgent

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season from him. That being said, like those are the guys you know,

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Marcus Morris when you're looking at and
Terence Mann, who's been fantastic,

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Like the Jazz should have won that
series even as banged up as they were,

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when you're just looking at the talent
level and so not the greatest matchup

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of them because the Glippers could go
small. Do you have to go into

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this offseason, though, I think
asking some pretty tough, really existential questions

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about your identity and what you can
do to change it, and whether you

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believe that this team is championship ready
as is, and I believe it is.

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I just think there needs to be
some smaller tweaks or maybe it's looked

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be more aggressive. And is it
time to shop Joe Ingles? Do you

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think if you're bringing back comedy that
maybe you can shop pulling in Bagdadovitch,

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who I know a lot of people
aren't crazy about his contract. He's still

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probably just closer. He shopped fifty
percent on pull up threes in the in

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the playoffs this year, so there
will be a team. When you look

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at the two years left on his
deal, if you really wanted to move

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him, two years a little bit
under forty million dollars. I don't know

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what you could get for him,
but Joe Ingles was entering the final year

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of his thirteen million dollars deal,
he'll definitely be attractive. You do have

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Derek favorss deal. I think that
player option though we'll scare some teams away.

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He's about two years and a little
under twenty million left the final which

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is a player option. I would
probably argue that Jordan Clarkson's contract might be

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the hardest to move, and he
was fantastic this year, but he's just

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such a wild card that unless you're
dead set on just having him be that

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bench score, who's going to come
in and throw up shots without having a

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conscience, which I again there's a
level of importance to it. Just the

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three years on that at roughly you
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That gets a little fickle for some. So if you really wanted to make

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a splashy trade, it's one,
as I said, not going to be

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Gobar. You're looking at an angles
were a Bogdanovich would would be my guest

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there. So I just don't know
what you can get with those guys,

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because you know every team is on
the hunt for the wings that I was

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sort of just describing. And while
you do have at least another or wing

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to offer in turn, it's just
like you look at the free agency market

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like this, You just look at
the wing market in general. There aren't

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a ton of guys who could be
traded, and sometimes when you're looking at

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this, it's just outside of Utah's
asset range. When you're looking at trade

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candidates, maybe Reggie Bullock is someone
that they could look at him free agency

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would be really good for them.
He's probably better against smaller wings though,

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And again, when you only have
the mini MLI like the Knicks should be

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willing to pay that, and he, in my book, is probably gonna

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get the full mid level. I
just don't you know the ready option made.

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Isn't there is a Tory Craig or
that that would really help you?

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And are you are you willing to
play him? So I actually think Utah,

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Well, there's not going to be
a ton of change. It is

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kind of an important offseason because they're
so close, but they're just clearly not

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there, and you can say,
oh, if they were fully healthy,

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Mike Conley's not getting any younger.
These injuries happen after playing an entire season,

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so you can't just necessarily bank on
being healthy. And you could even

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say guys who haven't really had injury
problems a ton. I know Boyamodanovitch missed

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some time last year, but he's
not getting any younger. I did it

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for Joe Ingles. Of course,
that was a longer answer on the Jazz

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than I expected to give, but
they're, you know, they're they're actually

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really fascinating to me. This next
question comes from James. What's the highest

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three point percentage in a single playoff
run given some sort of minimum attempts taken.

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I'm thinking about Seth Curry here.
That's who I thought about when this

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question was asked, and so I
sorted, this is like arbitrary, but

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I looked at anyone who was taking
at least fifty three point attempts in a

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single postseason campaign. Jeff Hornsack is
first at fifty eight point six percent.

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Ray Allen is second fifty seven point
one percent. Did it twenty two thousand

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eleven with Boston. Padrostoyakovitch when he
was with the Hornets in two thousand seven

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two thousand and eight is third.
Fourth is Steve Smith from two thousand with

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Portland. Paul Pierce is actually on
here, which surprises me when he was

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with one with Washington two fifteen fifty
two point four percent. I'm not gonna

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go down this whole list. I'm
just gonna go to number six because I

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find it funny. Al Horford in
twenty seventeen with Boston was fifty one point

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nine percent on that minimum. So
I decided to up it just because those

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I guess those names makes sense.
But when I saw Al Horford, Jim

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Jet, thirty four year old Jim
Jackson, even Robert Covington was in from

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two thousand and twenty May the top
ten, I just decided to up their

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criteria to seventy five attempts and Seth
Curry is the leader all time so far

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in players who have attempted at least
seventy five three pointers in the playoffs.

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He's shooting fifty percent on them.
He has a chance to finish with the

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highest clip in NBA history among guys
who've taken that many. You could filter

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it out to you know, one
hundred at that point if he keeps his

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pace. But J R. Smith
is right behind him there when you round

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their percentages, they're both actually at
fifty percent. He took eighty attempts with

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Cleveland in two and seventeen across eighteen
games. Nash is third two thousand and

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three with Dallas forty eight point seven
percent, Danny Green not surprising forty eight

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point two percent in twenty and thirteen
with the Spurs, and then fifth.

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Ray Allen makes it again two thousand
and one with the Bucks. I love

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Milwaukee Bucks, ray Allen and Seattle
SuperSonics. Ray Allen that dude was more

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all around hooper than people give him
credit for. He was at forty seven

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point point nine percent. Danny Green, by the way, makes the top

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ten twice in this which is he's
also number seven. I just like to

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use as a reminder that Danny Green
is still good and the Lakers were out

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of their minds to just sort of
use them as a throwaway after kind of

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seeing how the Spurs use them as
a throwaway and at Kawhi Leonard trade.

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I know Danny Green has missed a
ton of big threes, and I also

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know he's not the same defender that
he's always been, although he will still

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mess up your life in transition.
And I think he can check you know,

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00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,880
no, he shouldn't be checking Trey
Young. He could still give you

404
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,079
quality minutes against some of the higher
end guards, some of those wings too.

405
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:51,000
There's a reason he's missed so many
been in a position to miss so

406
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,559
many big time threes. It's because
he's good and valuable to the teams that

407
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,839
are really good. I'll be fascinated
to see where he goes in free agency.

408
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,480
If anyone from my previous uton rand
is wondering if he'd be good for

409
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,799
them, He's just you need someone
again who's gonna defend some of the bigger

410
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:08,480
guys. Kind Of would be interesting
to see Danny Green in either Milwaukee,

411
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,119
Denver, or Portland. Would be
fun, assuming they kind of stay together.

412
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,279
I know they're a little bit smaller
on the perimeter with we assume they're

413
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gonna resign norm They have Dame,
they have CJ. McCollum, Danny Green

414
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,319
among all those guys, I still
think he's probably better to well, not

415
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,240
think definitely among Damon c J.
But he can at least capably defend some

416
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,759
threes. So those would be three
teams that I'd be really interested in seeing

417
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:40,319
him play for this next question comes
from I don't know where I miss said.

418
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,160
Okay, Niko Bellick, who do
you think Denver should get for next

419
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,759
season? Denver is another team where
you kind of have to look at their

420
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:56,039
spending power and realize that there's a
legitimate chance. You know, if a

421
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,519
Will Barton opts out, if they
want to resign Paul Millsap, if you

422
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:02,440
Michael Green knops out, and they
want to bring these guys back, they're

423
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going to be working with the mini
mid level, which is five point seven

424
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,599
million. As a really good team, they might be in a better position

425
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:14,759
than most to get someone good with
that. At the same time, they're

426
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:21,240
not among the glamor markets and more
than that, and I'm not I'm not

427
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,559
trying to advocate for glamor markets here, but they're not a team that's necessary.

428
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,440
That's shown that they're going to canon
ball deep into the luxury tax and

429
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:33,200
Jamal Murray's injury kind of complicates that
for them because I would tell you right

430
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,839
now and I'm never gonna you know, I don't care about team governors spending

431
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:38,759
their money, and I'm not trying
to get get billionaires to pay less in

432
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,160
luxury tax. I want to make
that clear. I'm trying to deal with

433
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,960
the reality of the situation. When
you don't have Jamal Murray, You're absolute

434
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:51,079
best shot at a championship has been
squandered. This team is just it's legitimately

435
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,559
a lot weaker without him. Are
you going to be willing to spend even

436
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:56,799
if you can open up and they
can, you know, if they don't

437
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,480
want to bring back Paul millsap let'
say Walbart knops in. Let's say Jay

438
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:06,559
Michael Green opts in, it gets
easier to stay within under the apron to

439
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,000
use the full non taxpayers in the
level, which is like a hair under

440
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,160
ten million dollars this season, and
so that would open up a lot more

441
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,359
options for them. I'm curious to
see what they're willing to spend. Now

442
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,759
that being said, there are two
ways that they could go if they were

443
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:26,440
gonna funnel their best spending tool.
Let's assume that they use one of it.

444
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,759
There's a couple of different routes they
could go. If they're going to

445
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:36,039
spend it on one player, you
need another ball handler type to replace Jamal

446
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,119
Murray because off of a normal ACL
recovery timeline, he's gonna miss most or

447
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,720
all of next season, and because
he's so young, I know there's gonna

448
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,880
be the urgency. You want to
see what he looks like with Aaron Gordon

449
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:52,559
there and Michael Porter Jr. Before
both those two dudes are on different contracts.

450
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:53,720
He's gonna miss at least most of
the next year. So do you

451
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:57,640
want another ball handler because you don't
think it's gonna be for Kuno Compazzo and

452
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:03,000
Monte Morris really getting there, and
Jokis does need relief. I wouldn't argue

453
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,960
you don't necessarily need that, especially
if Will Barton is coming back, because

454
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,599
he can give you some pressure on
the rim and some initiation on offense as

455
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,720
well. You also have Michael Porter
Jr. If he's healthy and not having

456
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:17,799
back problems. No, he's not
a creator, but we've seen that he

457
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,200
can be basically a star on offense, and so I don't know that you

458
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,279
need to go out there searching for
another guy who could create his own shots.

459
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,079
Maybe if you're trying to find a
table setter, can you bring back

460
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:30,000
Austin Rivers, who I think was
really good for them. Yeah, I

461
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,480
don't. You should not be spending
your entire mid level exception on him.

462
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,480
I want to make that absolutely clear. The other route that they could go

463
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:40,799
is focus on their wing defense,
because they did sort of that they didn't

464
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:42,839
did sort of they got burned there. Like that was a big problem that

465
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,759
they had in the playoffs. Even
though you know, you go up against

466
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:49,920
Portland and you beat them, but
like that was still just something that they

467
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:55,440
struggled with. I don't know who
you can get. This comes back to

468
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:57,240
with what you could spend. If
you have the non tax players mid level

469
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:03,400
exception, someone like a Reggie bull
Locke might become realistic. He could really

470
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,200
help you. You could maybe take
a flyer on Otto Porter, Trevor Rizos

471
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,920
like eighty Now. I don't know
how interested in him. You're gonna be.

472
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,319
Tony Snells a free agent and he
might be able to come fairly cheap.

473
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,880
You could look at bringing West Matthews. He plays well for Spurts defensively.

474
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,960
Still, I just don't know how
many minutes you're gonna get out of

475
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,519
him. Derek Jones Junior could be
interesting. I just don't think he's going

476
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,319
to opt out of that money in
Portland. He wasn't even playing for them

477
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,559
when they rolled into the postseason.
I think you can argue that he should

478
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,920
have been, but he has a
liability on offense, and he shot a

479
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,039
higher clip than normal from three in
Portland, which anyone. It seems like

480
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,000
any wing who just goes to Portland
is most likely going to shoot a higher

481
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:45,039
percentage than normal from three. I
mentioned Danny Green for them would be really

482
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,359
good. What you can do,
I guess is look at trades for Denver

483
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,200
and just you know, you're gonna
make moves on the margins. Maybe they're

484
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,680
not even willing to spend whatever version
of the tax of the mid level exception

485
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,160
excuse me that they're working with,
and so they're looking to exchange contract for

486
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,839
contracts. That gets really difficult for
them because they don't just have a ton

487
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,880
of these middle money contracts. You
can move, you yo, Kitch Murray

488
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,559
off limits of course. I don't
know why you get rid of Aaron Gordon

489
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,119
when you need to improve your your
defense. And he checked a lot of

490
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:15,240
you know, like the smaller players
for them, and I thought he held

491
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:21,799
up pretty well aside from you know, all the inconsistency on offense. Jamichael

492
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:23,200
Green, if he ops in,
that's okay, that's seven point six,

493
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,799
But like that, that's your fifth
highest paid player as of right now.

494
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,799
Will Barton is the player that I'd
be looking at if he opts in fourteen

495
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,559
point seven million. I honestly don't
have a feel for that player option.

496
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,960
He was injured a lot of this
year, and I don't think he would

497
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,640
get as much money per year on
the open market. That being said,

498
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,839
there's a talent drain in free agency, so maybe he's not getting fourteen point

499
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,880
seven fifteen million dollars a year.
Is someone going to give him like four

500
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,000
and forty eight though? And so
you're getting you know, an extra thirty

501
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,440
three million dollars let's say, and
guaranteed salary over four years. But if

502
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,759
you still have him, if he
opts in, what can you attach to

503
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,240
sort of make a deal there?
And you know a player that I would

504
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,759
honestly, this could be a decent
swop for swop. Maybe Dallas needs to

505
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:13,440
send Maybe Dallas needs to send Denver
something else's based off the season Josh Richardson

506
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,559
had. But Josh Richardson in Josh
Richardson in Denver makes a bunch of sense

507
00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:22,519
for them. If Dallas, I'm
assuming Josh Richardson Oopson. Maybe not again,

508
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,200
this ree agency market is always going
to be weird, But if you

509
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,559
could do something like that, that
could really help you. The other thing,

510
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,359
if you wanted to take a bigger
swing, And I'm not sure how

511
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,359
willing Boston would be to do this
after making the Kemba Walker trade and giving

512
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,440
themselves more immediate cat flexibility in long
term, but Marcus Smart is extension eligible

513
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:44,759
this year. They can give him
up to a maximum of seventeen point two

514
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:50,039
million. If Marcus Smart wants that
amount or more and isn't willing to sign,

515
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Boston has to look at one,
are we willing to let's say he'll

516
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,319
sign an extension, are you willing
to pay him seventeen point two If you're

517
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,400
not willing to pay him that,
you can't risk him going in the open

518
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,680
market because there's a chance that he
might get more as a starting salary,

519
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,960
and you have to look at moving
him. The trade I came up with

520
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,480
was Monte Morris, Zeke Naji and
then the number twenty seven pick. Assume

521
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,920
that happens after the drafts, that
everyone can trade their their draft picks legally

522
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,640
and the Stepian rule doesn't come into
play any sticklers out there for the CBA.

523
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:22,519
Like myself, I don't know that
Naji really moves the needle for Boston

524
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,960
anymore now that they have Moses Brown
in addition to Al Horford, in addition

525
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440
to Robert Williams in addition to Grant
Williams, So there need to be other

526
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,519
moving parts there. The Nuggets do
have Bull Bull, they have PJ Dojer

527
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,640
as well. They need better point
guard play and Monte Morris is about to

528
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,400
start a three or twenty seven million
dollars extension which is super team friendly,

529
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,599
might be the best backup point guard
in the league. Is certainly going to

530
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,400
give you better creation in the playoffs. And a Peyton Pritchard, who we

531
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,519
saw them lean on the number twenty
six pick. Just you know, Boston

532
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:55,839
did just trade its own first round
pick, so getting another prospect there not

533
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,599
a bad thing. And I know
they'll run into some roster spot crunches.

534
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,799
You're not gonna trade a distant first
round pick for him and the Nuggets I

535
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,960
think already traded twenty twenty three is
going to Orlando. I can double check

536
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,840
that well recording this, But so
it would have to be like a Bull

537
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,400
Bowl or a PJ Dojer, and
if it's Dojer, I would question whether

538
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,800
you should do it, knowing Marcus
Smart's going to head towards free agency.

539
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:22,360
But I think that sort of framework
with the number twenty six pick and then

540
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,599
Monte Morris and then something else is
how And yeah, they traded a Denver

541
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,000
Staryway twenty twenty five as well,
that said to Orlando twenty twenty three is

542
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,559
going to Oklahoma City, so that's
not going to happen. Would I do

543
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,440
PJ Dojer, Monte Morris and number
twenty six? I think Denver is the

544
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,159
one that's probably giving up a ton
there. I still probably do it if

545
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,639
I'm them. I don't know how
important dojer is to you. If Will

546
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,119
Barton is still going to be there, and you have Michael Porter Jr.

547
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:51,960
And you have Aaron Gordon, he's
on a great he's on a super bear

548
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:53,480
bones deal and he can shoot threes
and he can give you some defense,

549
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:57,159
But Marcus Smart really elevate your defense. You do, of course, then

550
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,679
run into the issue of Smart,
Gordon, Porter, restricted free agency or

551
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,559
his extensions kicking in. Plus maybe
Wilbarton would all be hitting free agency or

552
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,320
set to take on new deals at
the same time, I think with smart

553
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,119
though with Denver, you can look
in the mirror and say, Okay,

554
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,679
we don't have Jamal Murray, but
our championship point though, is just still

555
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:21,000
open this season, and that's the
move. If you're Denver is, can

556
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:23,679
you make that bigger swing on the
trade market. I don't think that they'll

557
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,880
have the guts to do it after
they already did it with Aaron Gordon and

558
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,760
were sort of burned by the Murray
injury. That would be the type of

559
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,599
move though, that I think would
really elevate their needle. Next question comes

560
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,840
from Gabe sanza As, who leads
the playoffs and unassisted three point shooting.

561
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,079
Didn't have access to get this data
exactly, but I did look at let's

562
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,800
look at the higher volume guys first, and among anyone who appeared in seven

563
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,920
postseason games this year. And I'm
just using seven because that implies that they

564
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:59,199
played an entire series. Like an
entire full series at least Luca Donje's no

565
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,920
surprise there, and three point five
percent of his made three point field goals

566
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,679
went unassisted. Ninety one point seven
percent of all his field goals went unassisted.

567
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,840
Hardon Is two ninety one point seven
unassisted field goal rate on threes.

568
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,159
Trey Young is third seventy eight point
one percent, Donovan Mitchell is fourth at

569
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:20,800
seventy five percent, and Chris Paul
is fifth at seventy three point three percent.

570
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,000
I looked at then, who's the
best pull up three point shooter statistically

571
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,559
so far in the playoffs. We
had a we had if you it depends

572
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:30,960
on what you want to use as
a minimum. I went with seven games

573
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:36,199
played and then ten off the dribble
three point attempts. Chris Paul ranks first,

574
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,119
mostly because he just hits the minimum. He's six of ten on pull

575
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:44,320
up threes during the playoffs. Second
place is Shake Milton of six of eleven.

576
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,119
That's fifty four point five percent.
If you're looking for higher volume,

577
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:52,119
Lawyer Bodanovitch eleven of twenty two fifty
percent, Donovan Mitchell super high volume forty

578
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:57,239
five point seven percent for the postseason
forty two of ninety two. Lucancich is

579
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,039
behind him, Kawhi Leonard is behind
him. Set Curry then checks in in

580
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:05,119
the top eight at forty two point
one percent, to go with Tim Hardaway

581
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:08,599
Junior also tied at forty two point
one percent in case anyone cares about those

582
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,719
type of playoff things. We have
a speaker request from Noah, so I'm

583
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,760
gonna throw you on here. Noah, you should be good to go.

584
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,880
Noah, are you there? Yeah? That's what's up? Dan? How's

585
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,440
it going, man? I'm good. I'm good. Obviously happy that Brooklyn

586
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:37,719
was eliminated. But when you were
talking about and assistants with something earlier,

587
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,960
you bought up Al Horford, and
that reminded me about the terrible trade that

588
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,599
I saw going through this week.
I got a lot of flak for criticizing

589
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:52,320
this trade, obviously, and I'm
not sure why. I understand the cap

590
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,719
the thing with cap and you have
to get with Kemba Walker's contract or not.

591
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,800
But I don't think that Brat Stevens
need to include the first round pick

592
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,360
in order to get back Moses spread
and Al Horford, who I'm guessing Brad

593
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,719
steven thinks can contribute right away,
but I don't really. I'm not sure

594
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,159
how much. It's definitely not going
to be twenty eighteen, Al Horford,

595
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:20,920
But what do you think about that
trade? Like one is, I'm playing

596
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:27,719
a microphone plugging game here, but
I actually I agree with you, Noah,

597
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,719
it's not a terrible trade if Boston
really you know, they did enable

598
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,360
themselves to now resigned Evan four day
a little bit easier without paying as large

599
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,000
of a tax bill. It also
positions you if you want to, there

600
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,480
are ways that you can figure out
how to use your full non tax player

601
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,639
mid level exception, which in turn
makes the team better. That being said,

602
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,719
number sixteen, that's almost a lotto
pick. And I know we are

603
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,480
romantic size first round picks, but
number sixteen is what it costs to get

604
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:59,039
rid of someone who, if he's
healthy, is better than Al Horford and

605
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,320
can play at an all star caliber
level. And I know it's a big

606
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,119
if with his knees, Like Al
Worford is thirty five years old, and

607
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:08,559
now you have this glut of bigs
and it's not I don't think this was

608
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,440
a sign of how much they value
Moses Brown. That was I think to

609
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:20,159
be included for salary purposes. I
just don't understand, like why they couldn't

610
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,800
even get ken Rich Williams or if
you were gonna give up number sixteen,

611
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:28,559
there were ways that you could include
Tristan Thompson's expiring contract then to save yourself

612
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:32,280
even more money. And so that's
really where I think they messed up.

613
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,079
We have to see how this plays
out, you know, if Kemba's if

614
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,199
this is one of those situations where
they can't reboot Kemba's value and no casey

615
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,639
like they reboot everyone else's value.
Maybe you know the report on his knees

616
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,519
is worse than we know publicly.
Maybe Al Horford is fantastic for Boston,

617
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,360
but it's like at this rate they
have so many bigs. Robert Williams,

618
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,760
Grant Williams, are you gonna play
Al Horford at the four again? Which

619
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,239
is what we saw? It was
a disaster in Philly. So I think

620
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,119
horfords fit on Boston is fine,
but still need to move another bigger two

621
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:05,679
for the rotation to make sense.
And before I'll throw it back to you

622
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,920
know, really quickly, they needed
to get something else out of the deal.

623
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,079
If you want to give up the
number sixteen pick in my book and

624
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:13,519
my if it was Kendrick Williams actually
would have been fined with it, but

625
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,119
mostly be could you have found a
way to move that Christan Thompson contract,

626
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:20,760
because then I think that makes the
structure of this deal look a lot better.

627
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,559
I think. Obviously Boston's biggest problem
this year injuries really hurt them.

628
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:31,519
Their big man rotation was really confusing
at best. But at the same time,

629
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:36,320
you're correct with the sixteenth pick people
are talking about Moses Brown is a

630
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,239
good value. I like Moses Brown, but I don't think he's worth a

631
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,880
first round pick. And he was
really slow too. Yes, and he

632
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,039
also might have his production might have
just been a product of being on a

633
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:53,480
terrible team. No hate to Moses
Brown, but it's like I'm thinking,

634
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,639
like, what if you had made
that same trade, Like if you had

635
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,079
made that same trade for Christian wood
that would have in a higher I feel

636
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,519
like that would have been better,
you know. And I think you could

637
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:07,519
have made that same trade the sixteenth
pick, Kemba Walker for Christian Wooden throwing

638
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:12,480
somebody else. I think that would
have been way better than getting Al Horford,

639
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,559
who's thirty five? Who were I
don't think it's going to be the

640
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:20,559
same valuable piece to Boston's offense and
defense that he was a couple of years

641
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,639
ago. And Moses Brown and whoever. You know, I really don't,

642
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,079
and I honestly I think Kemba Walker
is better than people will than NBA Twitter

643
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:34,719
thinks he is, and injuries do
do have like have hurt him. A

644
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,440
couple has heard his production, but
when healthy, he's still a top fifteen

645
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:44,519
point guard, and when he's healthy, he can help Boston win games and

646
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:46,840
or even do his best, as
we saw a couple times this season.

647
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:53,519
So I don't think. I think
people are overvaluing this trade and overvaluing Moses

648
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:59,800
Brown and Al Horford and undervaluing Kemba
Walker even at that contract, He's still

649
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,840
only what thirty two years old,
and we all know point guards have a

650
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,480
way higher lifespan now in the NBA. So I don't know. I just

651
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,440
I feel like that that trade was
a little questionable. I think you could

652
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,519
have made that same trade a first
round pick Kemba Walker for a better big

653
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:20,440
and Christian would a young big,
somebody who could help you win a big

654
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,119
that they actually need someone who's a
better offensively. And plus the Boston has

655
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:30,519
way more holes to build than just
this gluttonous cluster of bigs now that they

656
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:34,480
have. Well, one of those
voys was they needed another ball handler,

657
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,920
and now they need two more ball
handlers because exact really, So I think

658
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,960
the thing and I actually have a
question for you really quickly have this,

659
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:43,920
but I think the thing I'll push
back into. I don't think you get

660
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,320
Christian Wood for that package just one
because of the rockets timeline. So you

661
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,400
plently a thirteen that would value Kemba, you know, is it? Kemba's

662
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,039
going to Dallas, Chris Stops is
going to Houston, and then Christian Wood

663
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:57,039
was going to Boston. But I
don't know why Houston would value Chris Stops

664
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,880
more than Christian would. At this
point, you was really good. You

665
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,960
would have if you wanted to make
it. You're like that, you probably

666
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,239
need to include more equity. Now
to that point, I absolutely would have

667
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:12,000
included more equity if it meant bringing
back Christian would rather than Al Horford,

668
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,960
because you're just looking at his partial
and I know people are looking at his

669
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:20,159
fourteen point five million partial guarantee for
twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three and

670
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,599
saying, oh, they could waive
that, they could stretch it and then

671
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,880
they're gonna have cap space. No
no, no, no, don't leave

672
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,119
five million dollars and dead money on
your books for three years. I think

673
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,119
they're gonna think along the same route
and probably let him finish this deal.

674
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,000
So I don't know that you could
have gotten I think you could have gotten

675
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,960
more. I don't know if you
could have gotten a much better player than

676
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,599
Al Horford, but you certainly if
you were going to get out Horford shouldn't

677
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:44,920
have been able to give up as
much. And like at that point,

678
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:49,039
like, could you have gotten Chris
Stops and kept the number sixteen pick?

679
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,679
Like was that like Dallas can't be
that high? After seeing the way Christops

680
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:58,039
moves now, it's like he's on
like stilts with Cement choose. But I

681
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,760
am to what I was discussing before
an outside perspective, would you give Marcus

682
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:08,119
Smart an extension if you're Boston well
as somebody who wants Tom Tillotto and Marcus

683
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:12,800
Smart to pair up, and I
would love to see him in New York,

684
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,880
I would not want Boston to give
him an extension, But if for

685
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,760
Boston's necessity, they need to give
him an extension because a lot a lot

686
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,239
of teams would probably be viagra him
and he could he will get probably more

687
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,960
than the seventeen point two on the
open market that you were saying if they

688
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,559
want to execute a trade for him, if they don't think that he's going

689
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,719
to bring as much value. But
at this point, he would be your

690
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:43,599
primary ball handler besides which is a
bad thing, besides Jason Tatum. You

691
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,039
would have to give him an extension. But also you have to understand if

692
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:50,000
you aren't willing to give him that
much, then you have to trade him

693
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:52,960
and probably get I don't know what
you would get back for him. Who

694
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:59,000
would take that trade? Portland would
love Marcus Smart, but I don't think

695
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,960
that right now. The suitable player
on that team would include probably a package

696
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,159
of C J. Derek Jones Jr. Or whatever. But I don't think

697
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:09,000
they're giving that much up for Marcus
Smart. You you would have to trade

698
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:10,960
him if you're not going to give
him the extension, but they have,

699
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:15,320
I would it would be in their
best interest to give him that extension.

700
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,760
Yeah. I would love Marcus Smart
in Portland too. And maybe I'm wrong,

701
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,000
and I see that Segre Trica,
I hope I'm not butchering that name

702
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:24,079
to bet is in the room as
well, and he's a Portland guy,

703
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,320
so maybe he would be able to
push back into that. They would just

704
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,519
be so they're so tiny. Then
I know Marcus Smart can defend one through

705
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:32,760
four, but he like the type
of player that that they would need,

706
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,199
and having him and then having Robert
Covington absolutely massive for for the defense.

707
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:45,559
Thank you as always know if for
listening, and I'm going to remove this

708
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,039
that an official Mike. Let's actually
make this the last question since I've been

709
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:58,559
rambling here for almost an hour,
and so you guys can watch, I

710
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:01,880
have it on in the screen,
but so you guys can watch unimpeded Clippers

711
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,960
sons. This last question comes from
y n Wa two one three. Who's

712
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:14,239
the best player in this playoffs before
the Kauai injury? Please? Maybe you

713
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,079
want me to say Kauhi I you
know I wouldn't push back against that.

714
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:22,360
He's been He was incredible and there's
we talk about two way workloads. That's

715
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,440
what makes true holiday so underrated.
Kawhi Leonard defended Luka don chich On more

716
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,559
possessions for more time than anyone on
the Clippers. He then defended Donovan Mitchell

717
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,679
up until his injury. Up until
Kawai's injury, more often on more possessions

718
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,639
and just spent more general time on
him. Than anyone on Utah and then

719
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:43,199
do that and also be the number
one option on offense, Like, holy

720
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,079
freaking crap, I think he's in
there. Kevin Durant has to be in

721
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:52,440
there. It's weird to see respect
for him grow even in a loss.

722
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,360
And I don't disagree with it.
I'm one hundred percent on board with it.

723
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,760
I just think normally the discourse would
have been like, oh, all

724
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,639
that for a second round exit,
not taking into account all the injuries that

725
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,280
that that Brooklyn obviously had. The
James Harden discourse got bad for a little

726
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,400
bit too after that win. And
there's James Harden. There's real grapes to

727
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,920
have about his postseason performance. That
was not one of them. Just he

728
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,320
played one hundred and thirty nine of
a possible one hundred forty nine minutes.

729
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,400
HAP tip Jackson Franks for pointing this
out on Twitter while on one hamstring basically

730
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,000
grade two hamstrings. Grade two hamstring
string is what Harden said. It was.

731
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,360
That's I'm not I wouldn't have played
him. And this was also something

732
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:37,000
that I thought a sector of Warriors
Twitter kind of made this about, like

733
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:43,119
Steph saying how Kadi was praised when
Steph was. You know, people said

734
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,599
he used the needs an excuse.
Then they also pointed out that the Warriors

735
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:49,760
were you know, criticized for playing
Katie when he ruptured his achilles. It's

736
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,480
I will always want one hundred times
out of one hundred and default who don't

737
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,159
play the players in that situation.
I wouldn't have played James Harden if I

738
00:47:55,199 --> 00:48:00,079
was Brooklyn. I think it's fine
to compliment them for their performance. I

739
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:01,800
just don't think it was an obligation
of them to play. And had there

740
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,159
been an injury, I think it's
worth the discussion, like there was with

741
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,719
Kevin Durant, should the team have
gotten involved there. I know they want,

742
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,960
you know, they say that players
know their bodies better and they trust

743
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,559
them to make the call. I
get it, and if the players like,

744
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,559
but you have to deal with the
long term applications. For Brooklyn,

745
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:22,119
it doesn't look like he was in
a position to reaggravate it. I will

746
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:25,360
also say a hamstring strain, while
fickle, a lot different from someone who

747
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,639
was dealing with an achilles injury that
was you know, James Harden could tear

748
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:32,320
his hamstring, it would be it
would be disasters. He could ruptures Quad

749
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,519
attend and whatever, it would be
a disaster. But Katie was dealing with

750
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:38,199
an achilles injury at the time,
cash strain, whatever it was called.

751
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:42,679
So I still think it's different,
but I get it. I don't think

752
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,400
Steph should have been criticized when he
was playing injury, but was it was

753
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,079
the twenty sixteen I think it was
like two playoff runs as well. So

754
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,079
this totally misleads me from the question. But I think Kawhid belongs in there.

755
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,400
I think Kevin Durant belongs in there. I'm not going to forget about

756
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,239
that Kadi shot to force overtime in
Game seven. Ever, I'm still thinking

757
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:06,079
about his forty nine point triple double
was one of the single best individual performances

758
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:08,000
I've just ever seen and was probably, you know, one of the top

759
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:12,880
five playoff performances from a single player
of all time. I think you can

760
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,199
throw Joel Embiid in here too.
What he's done while playing on him a

761
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,239
niscus injury has been incredible. I
don't think he's necessarily been the same on

762
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,639
defense that he's had his moments,
but he's been great by and large.

763
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,360
And then I also think, you
know, I know he didn't play a

764
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:31,039
ton, but Damian Lillard was magnificent. He left the playoffs averagely one point

765
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:37,360
six five points per possession on isolations, which is just like to like second

766
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,599
place. To put that in perspective, the last time I checked was at

767
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:44,239
one point three three, and I
know Dame samples Eiza smaller, but his

768
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,519
offensive display was just it was something
else. It is, as Kevin Duran's

769
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:53,039
Twitter would say, a spiritual experience
watching him play basketball. So I think

770
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:57,719
those are the four guys, and
I'm not really forgetting anyone there. I'm

771
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,199
even if you're even trying to think
of people who didn't really spend too much

772
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:01,719
time in the postseason. I just
I don't know who else you would default

773
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,079
too. Do we throw Sep Curry
in here? He might belong in here,

774
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:08,599
I honestly have no idea, but
if I've reached the step, Curry

775
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,840
is the best player of these playoffs
portion of the podcast, it's probably time

776
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,360
to end it. Thank you for
everyone who came through on Spotify's Green Room.

777
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,960
I gotta stop calling it locker room. Thank you for everyone who stayed.

778
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,840
Shout out to Noah and Sager for
still being here. Towards the end.

779
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,840
Until next time, I leave everyone, as always with a shout out

780
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,880
to the one the only restricted free
agent who is probably going to command a

781
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,159
max or near max deal because he
absolutely deserves it, Frank Dealt