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R two, SAG and iHeartRadio Statia. Good afternoon, and welcome to Time

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on the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm your host today,

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Ja Gonzalez. My buddy Steve,
who's normally here with me, is on

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the road. He's headed to Duke
where he's gonna be covering the game tomorrow.

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Big game, huge game, one
of the bigger games Arizona his head

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outside of NCAA tournament games, bigger, not big, non conference game.

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Duke is ranked second Arizona's twelfth.
So that's an opportunity of Faresan to make

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some noise. But Steve's on his
way, but he'll be checking in.

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We've cooked up a pretty good shock. My buddy Kevin here, Hello,

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Hello, who's gonna be hanging with
me today? So you'll be hearing from

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Kevin and I. But Steve's gonna
call in during the third segment of this

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hour. We'll pick his brain and
see what he's uh, you know,

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what he's thinking about heading into this
game at due he's covering it for All

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Sports Tucsons, so you can follow
him there and pick up his game story

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after the game and any other any
other stuff he does related to the game.

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But he's on his way. He'll
be calling in from the Denver Airport

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today. We're also gonna be obviously
talking the Arizona Colorado game. We got

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the two beat rioters. We're covering
the game for either team. Brian holl

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a frequent guest of the show.
It will be here at three at about

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three twenty, and he'll he covers
Colorado. He's been covering Dion since that

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whole thing happened, and so we'll
pick Brian's brain on what, you know,

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what's going on over there. They've
going there, they're going through some

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tough times. They've lost four of
their last five after that really celebrated start

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that they had winning those first three
games, and so it's got a little

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tougher for them over there, a
lot tougher, a lot upper. So

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we'll see if it's also gotten tougher
on Brian as well as But Brian will

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be in here and then we're gonna
get Justin Spears. We'll get the Arizona

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side. Justin will be heading out
to Colorado tomorrow and so we'll get his

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thoughts on the game where at a
press conference with Jed Fish today. We're

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gonna play some of those clips here
in just a second, but uh,

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you know, I think producing show
and then the last segment of the of

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the show, Kevin's got Steve's picks. I don't know what they are,

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but Kevin's gonna do Steve's fab five
Friday picks. I'll have mine by that

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time. I don't have him yet. I've been thinking about a lot of

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games. So I've got some I've
got some thoughts. I had a little

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better week last week. But Steve, Steve's hot man. Steve's gone perfect

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two weeks in a row, five
for five, two times in a row.

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Control what you can control. You
know exactly what Steve's doing. Yeah,

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pull off. Yeah, So he's
got he's gone, He's gone five.

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So he's on a run of ten
straight picks against the spread. So

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he's left me in the dust.
I'm not even I'm not even thinking about

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catching him. And he said number
of times he's not worried about me catching

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him. So he's just trying to
do well. He's up. Uh,

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he's pretty high up in that pool
that we talk about. There's a thousand

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people in it. Steve's in the
top ten. Yeah, he was talking

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about that. Yeah, he's quite
proud of that. Yeah, I'm sure

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he is. It's a it's a
tough it's a tough pool to win.

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So good for Steve. So we'll
we'll do the fab five Friday pick.

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So let's you know, let's go
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know that's what you know, we
that's the guy we didn't get. We

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didn't get with Tommy Lloyd this week
except the stuff he had to say after

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the after the Monday game. So
Steve will have some stuff to talk about

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there. But you know, press
conference, it's a it's a huge game

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for Arizona. Every game is a
huge game. You know, they want

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to keep this ball rolling. We've
been having this conversation about which is the

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bigger game Arizona Duke in basketball,
Arizona Colorado, And you could you could

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argue that the games only get progressively
big right here and out, kind of

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regardless of who the opponent, right
right, And I've been saying there's no

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wrong answer to that, right one. It depends on yourpect. Are you

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a bigger football fan or a basketball
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And here's why, you know there's
all this buzz about football. We're still

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talking football as Arizona's getting ready to
play Duke. You want to beat Colorado

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to keep this conversation going, and
and Jed talk about this. We'll play

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that that clip in just a second. You know, if Arizona goes to

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Duke and unless they get blown out, whatever happens, win or loss,

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it's kind of like, okay,
great. You know they didn't lose by

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a lot. They're at the number
two team in the country. Not a

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bad loss. They beat them.
People are going crazy right now, we're

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talking you know, the Arizona's the
top ten team. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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win wint right right, So as
long as they don't go get blown

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out at Dukes, whatever happens to
Duke is fine. Arizona Colorado. If

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they lose this game, it cuts
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basketball team. With Utah coming in, they want to fill it up.

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You know, you don't want to
lose this game. They're supposed to win

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it they're not. They're actually ten
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line has moved up. It was
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Now it's ten and a half.
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So I think that's why I think
this is a bigger game overall for

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the conversation. And I do agree
with with the bassment already of your assessment.

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And I feel like for this football
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room, in terms of the fans, right funds, all that stuff,

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this is kind of a teetering point
in like the program like are we going

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to be serious? We talked about
it on Tuesdays. Are we gonna be

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serious? Or are we just going
to be another Arizona team? Is it

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gonna be another nice seven? And
the seas? Right? So that's that's

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right. Things at stake. But
you know, Jet talked about how much

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you know they're they're ranked in the
in the College Football Playoff Frankines, they're

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ranked in the AP, They're ranked
in the Coach's Pull. Here's what Jet

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had to say about what does that
mean to the program? Well, I

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mean it's all you could ask for
right throughout these tougher times through Arizona football.

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You know, in the recent past, I would say that there was

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not many conversations about Arizona football.
And now when you're talking, when you're

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being talked about and you're becoming relevant, that helps your recruiting, that helps

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you know your opportunities for more for
your kids. Maybe there's some more nil

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opportunities. The more you're talked about, the more wins you have, the

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more the fan base are willing to
support our kids, the more money that

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goes into a collective, the more
multimedia rights, some more marketing opportunities our

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kids might have. So everything that
we could do to help our kids is

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happening. And then winning, as
I've told them for three years, is

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what really helps, you know,
and that's the truth. You want to

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get paid more, win more,
you want to get more opportunities, win

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more, And that's really what it
comes down to. And I think that's

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really the biggest benefit that they're seeing. And that's really it. He at

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the end, he said, it's
about winning. You got to win to

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keep getting these opportunities. Yeah,
because the losses against USC are only going

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to last so long as in terms
of improving morale, and improving the general

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feeling about the team. So you
do have to out actually win these games

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and well, and you have to
win the games that you're supposed to win

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exactly right. You know, if
Arizona had lost to say, Oregon State,

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you'd gone, well, Oregon State's
pretty good. Washington State as we've

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seen since then, right, Arizon
should have won that game, and they

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won it big, so they did. Ucla is another one. You think

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that UCLA team that came in here
didn't look like the UCLA team that we

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saw a couple of weeks earlier,
so I you know, it was important

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for them to win those two games. But now you got a game that

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you're supposed to win. Arizona has
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and you know they went three and
two of those games, so now they're

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the big favorite. They really need
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going. And again with you know
the season finale home finale with Utah coming

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in the following week, there's a
lot of ticket sales at stake for this

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game. Yeah, it doesn't it
does not get any easier, like you

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said, and Jed's been talking about
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about the ticket sales, and I
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forty one dollars tickets sold for the
final home game. Again, you talk,

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five thousand tickets are sold after the
UCLA game. That speaks to exactly

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what you're talking about. You have
to win to get people in right to

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care. If they get lucky,
you can get a daytime a daytime game,

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and all these kinds of things.
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the stadium, and that's you know, that's what you're looking for. So

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it's a huge game. I think
it's a I think it's a you know,

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well again, as you said a
second, every game gets bigger than

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the last one because you win this. Now Utah's coming in, they're going

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to come in ranked. You're probably
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You know, now you got you
got a chance. You win that

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and then you start getting to that
ten win thing that I talked about on

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Monday. So but you know,
he doesn't want to get ahead of himself.

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He talked about taking these games one
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that's that's the cliche, and he
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Conference, but they really do.
You know, one of the storylines is,

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you know, Deon Sanders. It's
always been all season long. It's

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been a crazy uh atmosphere around Colorado
and UH and Jed did, in fact,

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was on the coaching staff while Dion
was playing the last couple of Dion's

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last couple of years he was in
Baltimore. Jed was on the staff during

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that time. Eds, He's been
around some good players. Yeah, So

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he was asked, you know,
he was asked if he had some Deon

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stories. He declined the stories,
but he did talk a little bit about

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Dion annoying him a little bit.
I mentioned before, Uh, he's a

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fantastic guy. He's got great character, great personality, one of the best

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players ever played the game. And
uh, Colorado was lucky to have him.

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And it's gonna be great to see
him on the field before the game

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for one minute or two minutes,
whatever that is, and then after that.

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I wish him the best of luck. I wish his team the best

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of luck. But no, I
just remember him as a outstanding he for

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us. He played nickel so uh
at that point in his career, so

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I thought, you know, he
wasn't gonna say anything, right, That's

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what that was. Yeah, I'm
not gonna say anything that Dion's gonna use.

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You possibly could Dion does that.
He'll you know, if somebody says

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something, it's it's you know,
it's in the locker room. Well,

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I was also thinking Dion's also one
of those guys where, depending upon when

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you met him in your life,
you might not have a lot of family

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friendly deon stories to share a little
while exactly exactly so, especially when he

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was that, you know, with
the Cowboys and the Niners and that stuff,

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and those times for him were that's
when Dion was Brian prime prime,

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Prime is prime. Right, So
but you know it's gonna be interesting.

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Well, we're gonna have Brian Howe
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We'll talk about what Dion's been like, particularly the last several weeks when it

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hasn't been going so well. He
uh, he's uh, he's got somebody

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else calling plays. He promoted a
guy to co offensive coordinator and uh uh,

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you know it was a sign that
he wasn't taking the losing very well.

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We'll ask Brian how is that the
case? But uh uh, Jed

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was asked what's changed with the new
guy calling uh uh place for Colorado.

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I know coach Shermer well so been
around him at different times, recruited his

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son as a matter of fact,
and I think that he's you know,

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so he was an analyst there,
so he knows what they were doing.

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He was in all those meetings.
He was probably very involved. I don't

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know the exact extent of what the
analysts do over there. I know that

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our analysts have a great feel for
what we're doing. I would guess that

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when they made the decision to let
coach Shermer call it, what they've really

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done is he's not going to change
the offense. It's impossible week nine or

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ten of a college football season,
when you get twenty hours a week with

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the kids, to just go in
there and all of a sudden implement what

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he was doing at the Giants,
or what he was doing at the Broncos

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or anywhere else he's been. Now, will there be challenges, sure,

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will he have a little bit different
wrinkles, Sure, I'm sure there'll be

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some protection changes and how they want
to handle certain things in the running game.

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But from watching last week, there's
still most of the stuff they've been

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doing the whole year, and I
can't imagine that really having a significant change

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until the offseason. Well, I
think that that kind of says a lot.

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And he's right. I mean,
you know, these are college kids.

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They're not you know, NFL guys
who get to spend eight hours a

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day figuring out a new game plan
and stuff. Right, They're not changing

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their their offense. They may call
plays differently, as he said, they

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may change some protection protections and stuff
like that, but you're not going to

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see a big difference in what they
do. And I'm sure Brian, Brian

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will uh you know, will attest
to that. Uh you know. To

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me, the the whole uh impact
of that is what's going through Dion's head.

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that he let's say, quote unquote
demoted, was a head coach at Kent

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State. So you so now you
know, halfway through the season, Dion

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says, you're not doing the job
I need you to do. I'm bringing

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up this other guy. And so
those are the kinds of thing locker room

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stuff, coaches room stuff, that's
the kind of locker room and he's gonna

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kind of run like, right,
that's it constantly innovating and reinnovating locker room.

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That's like I was gonna say before
we play that clip. Because Deon's

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not a loser, right, That's
one thing he's not. He's not gonna

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wait right bad performances because he expects
of others what he expects. I'm sorry,

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he's nice. He's not gonna wait
around to make change that he thinks

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they need to make in order to
get better. You know, he talked

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to and after the last game.
He talked about how they they got to

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go get some better offensive linemen,
and people took that as well. He's

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he's ripping his own offensive lineman.
Their kids. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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but they kids day, you got
it. You get you get a scholarship

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to come and do a job.
Right now, you're also getting nil money

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to come and do a job.
There's gonna be a lot less patience for

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lack of a better word, They're
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need better offensive line. You know. I I've heard coaches say that usually

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on the side, not publicly,
but Dean he doesn't care what we think.

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And it's not it's not like Dion
is a complete stranger. Did these

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guys they respect him as a player, so they know, hey, if

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he says I'm not up the I'm
not up the par I'm not up the

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par I need to I need to
do a little bit better here in these

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certain areas. Exactly. All right, let's go and take our first break.

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We're going to come back. Brian
Holl from the Boulder Daily Camera and

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Buff Zone will be coming on and
we'll get his uh perspective on you know,

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what's been going on in Colorado,
not only all season, but really

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the last five weeks where they've you
know, they're they're one and four in

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the last five weeks. And so
we'll talk to him, and we talked

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to him earlier in the year when
all the deon stuff, what's going on,

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to fifty. Welcome back to on
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your host for the day, Jay
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towards towards Durham for the Duke game
tomorrow. He'll be covering that Frost Sports

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Tucson. But on the phone,
I've got to Brian Hall, Colorado Buffalo's

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beat rider for the Boulder Daily Camera. We've had Brian on a number of

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times, including earlier in this year
during all the Dion and color A hooplas.

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So, Brian, we appreciate you
joining us again. How things going

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over there? Pretty good? Just
uh, I can't believe it's Game channel

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right here. Seriously. Yeah,
so uh you know we we we did

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talk to you during you know,
all the raging media frenzy over you know,

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Colorado's first three games and when they
beat a couple of ranked teams and

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just got just captured, you know, the whole college football uh, media

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attention and everything that goes with it. Since then, they've lost five out

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of six. So just first of
all, tell me, you know,

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how's the mood as far as that
goes over there, you know, still

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trying to be optimist. What's going
on? Yeah, well, the message

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this week was is very much focusing
on the positives and the optimism of their

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future. And we talked a lot
to weeak about how how much Colorado and

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Arizona marror each other, and the
Colorado is just you know, kind of

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a step behind Arizona right now because
you know, yeah, the year one,

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yes, this is the year three, but uh, you know,

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Cala was just trying to learn how
to win go through that as well,

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and they finally that's when going on
that earlier this season. But the bus

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just haven't learned how to win those
close games against good teams. You know,

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the expectations really with what happened in
those first three games had to have

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gotten incredibly unrealistic because in the end, this is still a first year.

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Dion was, you know, a
brand new coach to the Power five level.

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You know, the much discussed roster
flip. Uh, you know for

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the entire program, do you think
people got a little ahead of themselves after

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those first few games. Yeah,
definitely. You know you could see the

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flaws in the team even during that
three and those stretch. I mean they

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it was a really good winn against
CCU and then the great debut, But

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you know, I think a lot
of that of TCU didn't have any film

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on this, you know, the
other teing that didn't have any film and

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caught by surprise. It was a
perfect storm. And you look at TCU

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and that's not a great football team
this year, that's a four and five

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football team. Uh. You know, Nebraska and the CSU were both rivalry

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games and they were supposed to ball
out CSU and h and barely beat them

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in double overtime. And you know, so that we saft laws even in

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the three and oh start. And
I think that the national hype was just

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it was insane and I understood it
at the same time. Uh, even

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during that how much did the did
that loss to Oregon, you know,

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forty two to six, I mean, look, it's Oregon, They're going

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to bring you down to earth.
But was that like a big thud or

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was it kind of expected? Because
you know that kind of started this whole

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thing. Yeah, at the time, it was certainly you know three and

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O. The hype you know in
that game was I believe it was ABC,

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uh, you know, right in
the middle of the day, and

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and to lose like that was a
big sude. They came back the next

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week and you know, they lost
only by a touchdown the USC and they

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got down bigging that game with then
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really the Oregon game that hurt them
so much. It was I think it

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was the Stanford game, right,
you know that they were up twenty nine

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to nothing a few weeks ago and
I lost that thing forty six to forty

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three and double overtime. I'm not
sure they've fully recovered from that one,

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and that had some tough games since
then, but you know, I'm not

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sure they've fully recovered from that collapsed
against Stanford and that was yeah, well

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they well they haven't gotten to twenty
points the last two games, and admitted

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the UCLA's got a really good defense, Oregon State's got a really good defense.

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But what's the way you know,
Colorado's offense had been you know,

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had been playing you know, including
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You know that's a little bit.
You know, that's quite a calm down

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for them. So Dion makes the
change with his offensive coordinator. You know,

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Kevin and I were talking in here
before you came on that Deal's Deal's

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not the kind of guy who's going
to wait around, and that's kind of

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how people have taken it. What
are your thoughts on why that happened and

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how's it working? Yeah, not
really, you know, some one of

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those things we don't have all the
answers and not really sure why it happened.

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My deck is from listening to him
and the things I'm hearing is that

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there was just a disc between whether
it's Dion and Sean Lewis out of the

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corner or Schador and Sean Lewis,
whatever it is, I think there's just

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been a disconnect where, you know, Sean Lewis is a great coach and

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he's been on everybody's hot boards for
years. Right, He's a great coach

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and he'll he'll continue to be a
great coach. But for whatever reason,

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I just don't think that hard has
worked out very well and they want to

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go in a different direction, and
it's like something different. Did it look

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any different? Yeah, I looked
a little bit different. You know,

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Pat Shermer obviously, you know,
long time NFL guy, and uh,

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you know there was a lot more
you know, Uh, they still passes

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of running back trying things like that, kind of the extension of the running

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type passes. You know, they
did a lot of those, but they

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didn't work. I mean I think
there was twelve cargets for the two running

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backs in the passing game that that
met at twenty five yards. Yeah,

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so you know it didn't work out
very well. It was It looked ugly

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last weeks. I mean, other
than the Organ game last week. What

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the works off as the performance?
Wow? Crazy? So you know,

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just your perspective on Dion, especially
going through this losing period, have you

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you know, has there been a
change? Does Is he kind of the

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same Dion just dealing with it differently? I mean, you know he I

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mean, he was the star of
the show for the first part of the

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season. I know people are still
talking about him because he's still Dion,

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But what's his mood been? Like, what have you sensed from how he's

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going through all this stuff? I
think they're great, you know, and

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I actually told him the other day
I had at a moment that with him,

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just find myself. He's the best
post lost coach we've ever dealt with

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by Conrad, a lot of them
obviously, you know, but he's really

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good. I mean, he's he's
never waivered. He actually asked that Stanford

408
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:23.720
could have easily come in there fuming, and he literally said to us,

409
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you deserve my best. I'm gonna
give you my best here, and you

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know, sat and gave us a
full press conference that after the u c

411
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l A. The FID tried to
you know, cut things off around nine

412
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.279
minutes and Deon said, no,
I'm good, keep going, and he

413
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went another ten minutes. Yeah.
So you know, he's doesn't really do

414
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and he's the one that's been trying
to drive the narrative and the perspective that

415
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hey, we're still in good shape. This is the first year program we're

416
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building. We're fine. Just wait
until we see us in the future.

417
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.720
Yeah, Brian, I'm Kevin High. I was wondering, so Dion has

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been extremely mature through all this,
and I was reading one of your most

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recent pieces. You talked about's maturity
through all the losing and how he's finding

420
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value in that situation. How is
his connection with his father as quarterback and

421
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.160
head coach relationship, How does that
helped lead the team through this tough time.

422
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:18.680
I think it's been helpful because the
door is immature, and growing up

423
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.960
with a father like he did,
and being around in the AFL kind of

424
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.880
players that he's been around, I
think he has given him aspective. And

425
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.839
you know, he's close to Tom
Brady and guys like that. You know

426
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.839
he can lean on that for experience. And you know, I was I

427
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.039
was kind of surprised about that answer
the other day when he was like,

428
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Hey, I don't I don't mind
going through this because you have to learn

429
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.640
how to do it, you know, And you know, that was a

430
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.440
mature response to it, And you
know, I think that helps a lot

431
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when your quarterback is not anicking,
it's a frame and at the same time,

432
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it's still battling because they were horrible
the other night, and then he

433
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.519
goes and gets an injection, then
the in between the third and fourth quarters

434
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.880
and comes out and scores two touchdowns
and all the leads back to the comeback.

435
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:06.400
So a lot of all those things
together have help this team so let's

436
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.680
get to a little bit about the
actual game on Saturday. The first thing

437
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.880
I wanted to ask Jed this question, but I didn't get a question in

438
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.640
the short press conference. You know, it's a first year program. They

439
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.880
got a lot of new guys.
How's the depth right now? Are they?

440
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.920
You know, are they going through
you know, injuries and trying to

441
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.319
figure guys out. You know,
it's kind of like a you know,

442
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.720
we know Jed went through this.
They they played three quarterbacks, but I

443
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.519
think actually four quarterbacks in Jed's first
year. You know, has has depth

444
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:40.480
taken a toll or you know situation? Are they pretty low on players right

445
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.720
now? How are they here towards
the end of the season. Yeah,

446
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:49.559
they started well, definitely had I
think it was seven scholarship play the season,

447
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:55.599
so they're already eight below everybody else, but they had they lost some

448
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:00.160
guys the injury or whatever. But
I haven't really like the depth of been

449
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.400
an issue. I've got the line, they're just not that good. It's

450
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.599
not like they've been injured linebacker,
same thing. They struggled finding some the

451
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.279
right pieces there. But they're not
injured. They just haven't performed. So

452
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.680
I think it's more of the I've
got to get better talented places, I

453
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:23.200
mean, been an issue. Yeah, so I'm sure this was a game

454
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.400
that both teams probably circled on their
schedule at the beginning of the year as

455
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.920
a very winnable game. You know, is is that still sort of a

456
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.079
mentality for for Colorado that this is
one they think they can get. Arizona's

457
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.559
rank now they're on a bit of
a role, but still, you know,

458
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:41.839
Colorado, you know, after U
C. L A and Oregon State

459
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.319
has got to feel like we got
a shot at these guys. What's been

460
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:52.839
that approach? Yeah, the teams
they think they never gave I do think

461
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:59.319
still probably look that Actually, for
what I'm hearing from a lot of fans,

462
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.119
they think next week is more winnable
than this week. Yeah, Washington,

463
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.240
I just still view as a winnable
game. And you know, I

464
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.640
know Arizona probably do it the same
way. I mean, they've got five

465
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:14.599
straight ranked opponents, now get a
struggle in Colorado might seem easy. But

466
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:23.240
what I'm curious about is Arizona keep
that up well Historically, Anti as a

467
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.640
somebody who's been you know, following
Arizona since I was a kid. This

468
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.960
is a this is a game that
you know as a fan, and I

469
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.519
know other fans are thinking the same
thing as one that it's a little scary

470
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.039
because you know, Arizona's done this
before. You know, they get on

471
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.920
a roll, get a game that
they should win, and then they go

472
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.160
lay an egg. You know,
I go back to the ninety two season

473
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.599
when quote unquote Desert Swarm was born. Arizona was on a roll, won

474
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.359
a bunch of games against ranked teams, and then closed out with a three

475
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.359
game losing streak. You know,
we're kind of at that point of this

476
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.640
season in sort of a similar situation. And uh, I know Arizona fans

477
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.240
are watching John Ford. I don't
know, you know, Jed's just saying,

478
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.079
we just want to go one and
know, you know, did the

479
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.200
coaches thing today, but just a
you know, a really interesting thing.

480
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.200
But so what what kind of game
do you expect to see? Uh?

481
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.000
You know, we we know that
in Colorado has got a very posent offense.

482
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:20.960
Jed mentioned that defensively, how's the
matchup for for Colorado against Arizona?

483
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:27.960
Yeah, you know, defensive,
but it's still struggled about this year.

484
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:34.720
Their their best attributes are. They're
really creating turnovers and it's been pretty h

485
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.240
so we'll see they can keep that
up. And they they forced six turnovers

486
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.279
the last two weeks combined. And
and so that's one thing that Arizona's gotting

487
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.880
guard for is you know, these
guys hit hard and of course bubbles like

488
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.079
you know, it's a mishandle of
a snap and things like that. I

489
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.400
mean, they force the way they
hit and now they're opportunistic with their defensive

490
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.680
backs and so you know, I
think it's a good matchup for CU.

491
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.440
Theirs have been aspect a lot of
the year, but it also got trying

492
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:05.119
to hunt on one fight. So
you know that that's one of the best

493
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.920
cornerbacks in the country. And so
I'm curious that Jeff done how much FITA

494
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:14.240
goes after Travis. How's how's he
been since he got back from the injury?

495
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:21.480
Pretty good. He didn't have a
very good game defensively Stamford and everybody

496
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.960
saw that the part Stamford came back, but Dion told us, but that

497
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.440
was because I was didn't focus on
defense. He was worried about Austens and

498
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:35.319
he had a monster game on offense
that night. He refocused himself through the

499
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.599
bye week and he's been really good. He had two interceptions against u C.

500
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.880
L A. He was locked down
last week against Oregon State. So

501
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.480
he's been really good the last two
weeks. All right, man, Well

502
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.160
we'll see, We'll see how it
goes there. You know, we headed

503
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.480
up that way tomorrow. But it
should be a fun game. I'm looking

504
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.240
forward to this, you know,
with all again, despite all the how

505
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:59.319
it's gone the last few weeks.
You know, Colorado was still they're still

506
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.839
in the conversation and people are still
talking about them, probably always will because

507
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:06.640
of Dion. But I'm looking forward
to to as you said, after five

508
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.480
straight you know, ranked teams.
Okay, how is Arizona handle this?

509
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.039
So I I'm looking forward to seeing
this one. Yeah, Kenny, especially

510
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.159
not only if I say rank,
but he's not the loik after that.

511
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.400
I mean that eight game stretches is
the fund that you probably look at and

512
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.559
say, this is the one you
probably don't have to gear up for as

513
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:30.039
much dangerous. Yeah yeah, well
if they do that. If they do

514
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.159
that, they'll be in big trouble. We know that. Hey, Brian,

515
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.840
thanks again, appreciate it. Have
a great weekend and have a good

516
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:39.039
game on Saturday. Thanks for talking. Thanks. That was Brian how from

517
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.000
the Boulder Daily Camera phone, breaking
up a little bit. But I think

518
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.320
hopefully you still got all that.
But you know, it's this is I

519
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:50.320
really am interested in how this game
is going to play out for that reason.

520
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:57.480
It's this game that historically Arizona has
trouble with after a stretch like this,

521
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.239
this is who Arizona is. It's
the trap game, right, yeah.

522
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:05.920
One, and we'll see if Jed
and his guys somehow get across to

523
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.800
the players. Don't let up.
Don't let up. Yeah, I mean,

524
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.800
and if you're gonna separate yourself from
the other programs that are kind of

525
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.079
in this weird zone that Arizona's in, you gotta win games like this,

526
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.440
win the games you're supposed to win, like you said earlier, and that's

527
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.159
how you build like expectation, right
winning, Go on to the next one.

528
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.239
Okay, we're gonna take a break. We'll be right back. I

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think we're gonna get Steve Rivera for
this last segment or over the phone from

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zalas your host for the next hour
and change. But my buddy Steve Rivera's

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on the road, but we've got
him on the phone right now. He's

578
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toiling in the Denver airport in a
long layover, headed to Durham for the

579
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.599
Duke game tomorrow. So we're gonna
break this down with Steve, who you

580
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know, in one in twenty four
hours has become an expert on this game

581
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:23.719
coming up tomorrow, right, Steve, sure work, But you know,

582
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:28.000
here's the thing, and seriously,
you know you've you've been through a bunch

583
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.960
of these a bunch of these Duke
games, Duke Arizona games. They've they've

584
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:35.880
played nine times, had a whole
bunch during the time that you were covering

585
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covering them the last two times,
the twenty eleven game, in the in

586
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the Sweet sixteen and in Anaheim.
Then in twenty thirteen they played a neutral

587
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.960
Syche game Arizona one, both of
those. What are your thoughts right now

588
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.480
in terms of in terms of the
series and what that what it's been like,

589
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.360
Steve, Yeah, they've been I
think I haven't. I did not

590
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.159
cover the last two. I was
working for Fox, but I wasn't covering

591
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.360
the team on the road. So
those are huge games. Obviously at the

592
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.760
Madison Square Garden, Arizon was not
expected to win that one, and of

593
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:15.960
course the big game in the tournament
when Mark what's the Dame Williams had a

594
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.440
fantastic game, Derek Williams had a
fantastic game, which you know is kind

595
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.159
of almost propelled Sean Miller to his
first Final four before it didn't. But

596
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:29.360
I've been you know, two thousand
and one, what a fantastic game Arizona

597
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.360
Party should have won that given the
injuries and then a couple of calls,

598
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.840
but then and then and then MAUI
I was there for that big game in

599
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.480
two ninety eight. I think it
was No. Is there a better rivalry

600
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:43.760
East West? I'm not too sillar, there is no. I think you

601
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.199
can argue that because and you know, you see it right now, and

602
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.360
how many people are focused on this
game tomorrow night, national media. You

603
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.920
know, you're seeing them on social
media that this is a game that a

604
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.480
type of game that every you know, everybody wishes there would be more of

605
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.480
these. Yeah, you have no
question. I just saw that Duke got

606
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:05.119
situated with the Kansas rivalry too.
They just set up a home and home

607
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.199
with Kansas. But that doesn't start
to I think a year next year or

608
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.960
a year after. So until then
you have Arizona and Duke and two of

609
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:15.480
the power conferences back in the day
with lut and Skazhevsky. I wish this

610
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:20.840
would have been done more often,
but but hey, it's happening now,

611
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:22.320
so why complaining? Right exactly,
Well, and you know, and you

612
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.480
hope that this sort of becomes the
new thing. You got two young coaches,

613
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.880
guys early in the early in their
careers. They haven't developed the quote

614
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:37.039
unquote egos that maybe a Lout and
a Skazhevski and somebody like Tom Izzo or

615
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:38.800
you know, somebody else might have
where they say, I'll play you,

616
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.840
but I'm not playing you home at
home, which is what we're seeing over

617
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.039
the years, that they're going to
play each other. They're going to go

618
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.800
play to each other's places, hopefully
because they know it's good for college basketball,

619
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.519
right right, No, no,
and look, it's happening. Arizona

620
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.559
may not be doing it at home. Over a couple of teams, but

621
00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:00.159
the season or the schedule that Tommy
has developed here, it was fantastic,

622
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.199
not since General Loot was here.
Have you seen it? And maybe they'll

623
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.039
start bringing into mcale which benefits you
guys, the guys who spend money to

624
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:12.960
go buy tickets. Right. Have
you been to Cameron for a game?

625
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.679
No? No, that's one of
the reasons why I come here. Decided

626
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.039
to come because here in Kentucky or
the pib of the last two places,

627
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.760
I haven't seen at college basketball game. I've seen it everywhere else. Have

628
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.119
you have you Have you ever seen
Cameron from the outside of seen a big

629
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.039
sure of it. Yeah, looks
like they played in the Western the regional

630
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:35.159
when they played in North Carolina State
a few years ago when they got beat

631
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.639
the first round. I think it
was Kevin O'Neill's first year. First that

632
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.559
year we came. We made a
road trip to Cameron and it's smaller than

633
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.239
you think. Yeah, it's just
a little building. It's a little building

634
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.239
like a church almost. Well,
the whole place looks like a church because

635
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.599
that's that's just the construction of Plus
there's a big, giant church in the

636
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:57.159
middle of it. Well, well, let me ask you something, says

637
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.800
father Jay. Will I be if
I light if I go into this church?

638
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.320
Well, I didn't. So if
I'm okay, you're okay. The

639
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.760
co host, Yeah, if I
if I didn't get it, you're not

640
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:14.679
going to get I think. I
think you're just fine. It's a cool

641
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.159
place. The campus is is beautiful. It's like no other campus I've ever

642
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:23.440
seen. And it's funny because I
purposely wore an Arizona T shirt when we

643
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.119
went to the campus just one day
to visit the campus and go to the

644
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.960
bookstore. I'm in the bookstore buying
Duke gear wearing an Arizona an Arizona T

645
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.360
shirt. It was kind of fun. Oh, you should have got that

646
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.599
picture. You would have been able
to use it tomorrow exactly. But okay,

647
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.400
so let's talk about the game a
little bit. I mean, we

648
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.480
don't know much about either of these
two teams other than Duke is number two,

649
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.639
rank number two in the country,
Arizona's number twelve. You know,

650
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:52.960
Arizona's got a guy named Caleb Love
who knows who knows Cameron. He's played

651
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.679
Duke a bunch of times. How
much of a factor do you think that

652
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:59.920
can be for for Arizona. I
think it'll be a factor for him because

653
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:01.599
you know, we haven't really talked
to him much, but he seems like

654
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:06.440
he's unflappable in the times that we
talked about, uh, talked about him

655
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.599
and and the team. Uh.
So I think that's they're in good hands

656
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:12.119
and we've seen him. He's kind
of like, uh, he's got to

657
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.559
play with the chip on his shoulder, yes, uh. And the other

658
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:17.320
guys and and we know this.
Arizona's very talented and they played well in

659
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.480
in November, and I think they
have nothing to really lose in this game

660
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.840
outside that they get blown out,
and I don't think that's gonna happen,

661
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.760
right, So it's kind of like
playing with the house money without really having

662
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.320
a house money, right when you
think about you know, some of the

663
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:35.480
let's call him veterans, even though
like Kylin Boswell is only a year you

664
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.840
know, into this, but you
know, the guys like Boswell, Pally

665
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:43.599
Larson, Umar Balow, even Keisha
Johnson who went to a final four last

666
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.960
year. You know, how do
you think Cameron will affect those guys if

667
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.159
at all? Yeah, I don't
think. I don't know, I don't

668
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.960
know. Maybe early in the first
five minutes, but I don't think they're

669
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:55.239
gonna get intimidated by it or so. I think they're gonna settle in.

670
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.760
I you know, you see that
the pictures in the in the TV,

671
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.000
all the crowd and all that,
But but I don't think it's gonna take

672
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.400
them at all. Yeah, you
know, I think it makes it.

673
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:07.960
It's gonna sound weird, but I
think it makes a difference that this game

674
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:13.599
is on a Friday night in Durham
instead of a Saturday afternoon. I would

675
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:17.519
imagine that it's crazy there no matter
what. But still, at least from

676
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.360
an Arizona standpoint, I know that
a Saturday afternoon game gets gets a crowd

677
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:28.000
in an arena more riled up than
say a Friday night or a week night

678
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.559
game. Well you even though your
daughter when they're not studying on a Friday

679
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:37.440
night. No, I think you're
probably right. They're gonna be ready for

680
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:42.920
some of them have gone about twenty
five. Wow. Wow, that's crazy.

681
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.920
That's crazy. So, uh,
you know, getting back to you

682
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:46.960
know what, you know what we
expect to see. You know, we

683
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.880
talked about this yesterday. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna take Sammy's money

684
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.800
on the over, because you know, he thinks it's going to go under

685
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:58.960
one fifty two and a half.
I'm thinking a game where both teams get

686
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.199
into the eighties. Well, I
you know, yesterday I was joking with

687
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.480
you guys because I wanted to stay
out of this bet. But I think,

688
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:06.159
I think, and then this is
hard for me to say. I

689
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.639
think you're gonna win the bet because
both teams like to run when they'd like

690
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.639
to play fast. And let's assume
that they go to uh seventy five,

691
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.239
seventy five, seventy seven, seventy
five, and it could go into overtime.

692
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:20.159
I mean, if it goes into
overtime, it's definitely over one fifty

693
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.480
two, right right. I mean
I've already thrown something down on that because

694
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.239
I fully expect it to be,
you know, on top of what I

695
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.679
got with Sammy going so double down, the double down exactly. And I

696
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:34.559
may throw some more tomorrow once I
get to Vegas, because it's you know,

697
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:40.000
on other bet with he has he
has Arizona under seventy two points.

698
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:43.320
Yeah, no, no, that's
not gonna happen. I don't think that's

699
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.519
gonna happen. Yeah, they're gonna
get too many. Both teams are gonna

700
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.920
get a lot of easy baskets.
I think the defense here is gonna be

701
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.639
It's where in November. How good
is the defense gonna be? Right?

702
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.360
And a lot of running up and
down. I hope there's not a lot

703
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.960
of fouls because I don't want anybody
in out of them. What about Tommy,

704
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:00.960
you know, I mean, he's
been a Gonzaga, They's been a

705
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.400
bunch of big games, final fours, the whole bit. I didn't look

706
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.239
back to see if he's if he's
you know, been on the bench,

707
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.599
you know at uh you know at
now has he they played each other?

708
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.239
They played I don't think they've been
in Cameron, but they played each other

709
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.840
and again the Zagas I think beat
him in the tournament. I think I

710
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.760
could be wrong, But but think
I could be wrong. But thinking about

711
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:24.519
Tommy going to Cameron maybe for his
first time, now Skrzyzewski's not on the

712
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:29.599
other side over there, so maybe
that impacts how he approached. But you

713
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:34.039
know, do you think he even
really sees Cameron as a play said he

714
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.920
needs to worry about No, I
don't think so. I don't think.

715
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:39.960
So he's a he's a dude.
He's a really goofid crap about that.

716
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.800
And I think I tell you that
in a different with different words. Uh

717
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:46.719
uh No, I don't think.
I don't think. To me, he's

718
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.840
doing this because this is gonna be
fun. He's gonna, he's gonna,

719
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:52.480
he's gonna. You know, wouldn't
you if you're the head coach and you

720
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.840
had a good team, like a
really good team, would you want to

721
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.400
go play other good teams in great
places? Right? Because that's that's part

722
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:00.840
of the fun of it, right, And if he was going to be

723
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.559
intimidated by a game like this,
then he wouldn't have He wouldn't have scheduled

724
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.719
it, right, I mean that's
he wouldn't. In fact, he would

725
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.119
not have been scheduled all the other
ones either. Yeah. Yeah, so

726
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.119
I think that, you know,
I think things is gonna be really fun.

727
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:16.679
I remember when they announced it and
we talked about it, and it's

728
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:20.599
kind of like it was so far
away, right, That's exactly what I

729
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:22.960
thought. I remembered we were talking
about this game, and I was like,

730
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.400
wait, this is the game that
all the all those years ago.

731
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.360
I was like I'm excited of talking
about this last year and this is you

732
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:34.199
know, it's finally here, so
you expect a close game. Yeah,

733
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.800
I do. There was almost like
getting five five and a half. I

734
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.559
would take the points in fact that
I'm on the internet now people, I

735
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:43.519
think it's fine five and a half. I can't make any bets because I

736
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:45.960
don't think you can do it out
here. But uh, but I think

737
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.239
it's going to be closer than five. And hey, I wouldn't be surprised

738
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.079
if there was gonna wins. Remember
the polls, the post. No one

739
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.239
knows anything about most of these teams, right, they're just kind of went

740
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.039
off reputation and what they know from
last year. And it was as could

741
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.400
be better than the twelve and then
probably are and Duke could possibly better worse

742
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.519
than a two. We just don't
know. And Josh Shires a new coach

743
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.559
too, right, he's a new
coach and as she stepping in has tough,

744
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:14.320
if not a tougher situation than than
Tommy Lloyd stepped into. Yeah,

745
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.079
no, no questions. Do you
want to follow the guy that follows the

746
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.480
guy you know you don't want to
follow? You want to follow coach k

747
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:23.000
it's like, do you want to
follow? Uh? Uh Luke? Yeah,

748
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.440
no, I seriously, I mean
I just think that, uh,

749
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.719
there's a lot of things in play
here that kind of have changed over the

750
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.880
last you know, since it was
loot Herzewski, you know, at Duke

751
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:39.159
in Arizona. So did you okay, let's let's let's take away the two

752
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:43.639
thousand and one game, which was
for the national championship. Did you have

753
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.840
a favorite Do you have a favorite
Duke Arizona game? Oh? Wow,

754
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.960
take take away the championship game?
Right? Well, well you you were

755
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.079
around. I didn't cover the team
directly. I was going to help me

756
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.039
out as a sidecar guy back in
the late eighties. Uh the one in

757
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:07.440
Tucson turn Yeah, fantastic game with
Leightoner and Sean and although heavyweights, it

758
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.760
was two heavyweights. Man, I
just remember it be crazy. Yeah,

759
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.679
that was I was at the NOWICH
Championship. Arizona's the defending national title champions,

760
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:20.320
Miles saying we want to go undefeated
for the season and Duke to beat

761
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.360
him in the in the championship game. So and come on, if you

762
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:30.239
go to the rosters of each one
monsters, Monsters of college basketball, right

763
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.239
right. Well, you know you
talk about that that the eighty seven eighty

764
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.840
eight season and the Duke game that
was here to me, even though you

765
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.000
know they won the they won the
Great Alaska Shootout, they beat Syracuse in

766
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:44.840
Michigan in that, I think it
wasn't until they beat Duke that you went,

767
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.280
holy hell, what do you got
over here? And that when you

768
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.840
think about all the years after that, you kind of feel like that's where

769
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.360
it started. Okay, So let
me ask you this because you've been around

770
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.880
this time, and I talk about
this with a lot of the X guys.

771
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:00.760
Uh, everyone one in Arizona.
Once that you peak, there's a

772
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.679
rivalry and there's a Duke of the
West and they talk about that. Do

773
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.880
you think Duke stays up at night
worrying about Arizona. Absolutely not. They

774
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:14.400
worried about just because you know,
they've got guys within their own conference that

775
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.159
they've got to deal with near North
North Carolina right down the dang street.

776
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:21.239
Uh, you know n C State
as well, all the you know,

777
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.199
all the ACC teams, and then
I think, you know, if you're

778
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.960
talking about who do they think of
in terms of the as a rivalry like

779
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.960
that, I think Michigan State and
Kansas come in ahead of that, ahead

780
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.880
of Arizona on that as well.
So now I don't I think Arizona fancy

781
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:43.079
Duke more as a as a you
know that rival out there that they want

782
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.880
then Duke does Farzoni. I agree
with you on that. Yeah, yeah,

783
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.039
they kind of want they want to
be the Duke of the West.

784
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.480
Yeah, maybe they return to that, Maybe they return to that. Yeah

785
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:53.800
yeah, but this is uh,
this is gonna be fun. All right.

786
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.639
See, we're gonna let you go, let you uh finish out the

787
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:02.599
rest of your lay over over there, grass seven. Don't screw up my

788
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.800
picks, man. You gave me
the pick, all right. So if

789
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.559
they don't go through, we're we're
not gonna live. Steve, have have

790
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.000
fun, safe travels and let everybody
know you to read your stuff in all

791
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.840
sports too, son, So we'll
be hearing from you. Thanks to see

792
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:23.079
later and my buddy Steve Rivera on
the on the road. But you know,

793
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.679
look, Steve's been around a long
time. That's some pretty good analysis

794
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.199
of this game. You know,
we would have had that conversation in here,

795
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.000
and I think, uh, this
is gonna be fun. It's gonna

796
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:37.239
be really fun. I'm looking forward
to that game. I'm gonna be watching

797
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.079
it in Vegas, which is even
gonna be more fun. That's gonna be

798
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.760
too much fun. Yeah, it
could be too much fun. But uh,

799
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.199
you know, we've got a whole
group of people are gonna be watching

800
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.760
this game together and having a blast. And uh, you know, these

801
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:52.119
games haven't been coming around Arizona for
some time. I mean, they played

802
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:57.039
some great games in some of the
tournaments. They've played a few, you

803
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.679
know they have. They've had Michigan
State and Tennis See and and and stuff

804
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.719
like that, and some of these
uh neutral side games and stuff like that.

805
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:07.840
But this is a true home and
home. They're going to Cameron Indoor.

806
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.920
They got to come back here next
year. You know, this is

807
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.880
this has the makings of everything that
Arizona fans want to see, you know,

808
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.119
every year here and that we used
to see all the time. And

809
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.440
as we said, you know,
John Shire, Tommy Lloyd, two of

810
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.199
the young guys in the you know, in the in the coaching industry who

811
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:28.960
are saying we're gonna play these games. And I hope that people see this

812
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as an example and we see more
of these down the road. Yeah,

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and it should be a great time. I know. Mean and some of

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my friends are getting together and watching
it this weekend. It should be a

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good time. Yeah. You play, you play this game, you watch

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this game, and then you get
ready for the It could be a great

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week It could be a really fun
weekend. All right, stick around,

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we're gonna be back. Kevin's got
breaking news and then we've got Justin Spears

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in the next hour, So stick
around. Down

