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Hey, this is movie trailer voice
guy and you're listening to Brian and Wayne

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on That big Foot Podcast. Hey, folks, and welcome to the very

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first episode of That big Foot Podcast. I am your host, Brian coming

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to you from the big Foot Bunker
here in North Carolina, and my co

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host Wayne hiding out lurking in the
background like a red circle squatch up in

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Tennessee. What's up? Wayne?
Loved them red circles. What's going on

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at Sasports Central and North Carolina?
Not much. As we record, we're

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hunkering down because it's running like hell
outside. So I am in here,

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nice and dry recording our very first
inaugural podcast on That big Foot Podcast.

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I have been super excited about putting
this together. Man. I am so

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glad we don't get to work together
as much as I'd like to, and

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anytime we get to do something together, I am stoked about it. And

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I am definitely stoked about this because
I think it's going to be something different

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for both of us. Have you
been as excited about the show as I

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have? Man, I can't tell
you how excited I have been. Like

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you said, it's always fun getting
to work together, especially you get to

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work with a friend. That's always
fun. But I've been telling you and

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others that I wanted to do something
different for a while now, but not

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your grandma's typical podcast. We can
be grown ups and talk about the ship

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that really bothers us in the big
book community, because I don't think there's

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a podcast out there right now that
does a whole lot of calling people out

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on their bullshit. And that's not
to say that's what we're going to be

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doing all the time, but it's
not something that we're going to shy away

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from. Yeah, man, I'm
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this thing. Yeah me too,
man. I think that's one of the

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things that has really bugged me on
Sasquatch Odyssey recently, is you have to

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be very careful. Right. I
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we're certainly going to talk about hoaxes. We're gonna get into some of that

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and talk about that in future episodes
of the show. But I think it's

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important because the one thing that I
did in the past, and I've admitted

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it on my other shows and as
a guest on another podcast, is you

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have to stick to the facts.
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trouble in the past myself, is
going after the person and not necessarily the

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hoax or whatever the evidence that people
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that's something that we can definitely do
in a way where people understand the points

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we're trying to make care on the
show, and we're not really about beating

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people up, but if you're out
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call you out on your bullshit and
say it's wrong. It's just something that

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needs to be addressed in the big
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people out there drinking the kool aid
man and it really pisses me off.

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And one of the things that you
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it, and I'm sure we'll get
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time or another on the show,
is the following that these people have is

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amazing to me. You and I
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longer than me and we both have
a really big audience, and we have

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a lot of people that are interested
in what we're talking about on our other

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shows, but it's nothing like these
people who put out some of these hoaxes,

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and it just seems to me.
You were texting me yesterday and we

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were going back and forth about Red
Circle squatches and some of the people out

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there that are perpetrating some of these
hoaxes with videos and pictures and some of

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the bullshit that they're putting out on
their YouTube channel. And they've got seventy

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five thousand subscribers or one hundred and
fifty thousand subscribers. And it's happened to

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me personally, and I know you
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I have been guilty of giving some
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a platform because you have people on
the show that share their experiences.

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We do primarily interview based shows outside
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me recently. I had a guy
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or late last year, and this
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He had not TikTok, he had
no other real social media and outlet

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for sharing his videos. And he
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and he sent me some video of
some of the things he was recording,

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and by some of the things he's
recording I'm talking about literally trees blowing

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in the wind. And I posted
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and I looked this morning. It's
about three hundred and seventy five thousand views

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on my TikTok and I also looked
at his I think he's posted the same

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video on his TikTok channel. It's
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hundred thousand views. He now has
about nineteen hundred subscribers on YouTube, which

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is not killing it. But this
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And there are established podcasters out there
who have been podcasting for eight or ten

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years, doing live shows every single
week, bringing on great guests, talking

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about great topics in the Bigfoot community, who have less than a thousand subscribers

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on their YouTube channel. So it
seems to me the way to go is

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to put out bullshit, do some
red circle squatches, and go film some

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trees and get a following in the
Bigfoot community. Is that how you feel

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about it? Have you experienced that
with people you've had on the show?

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How do we change that? Ran
That's what we need to be focused on,

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I believe, and it's not going
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like this, that we're not gonna
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to be our goal. I believe, because I mean, you hit it

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right on the head. It pisces
me off. I've been putting out YouTube,

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doing a live interviews on YouTube since
around twenty twenty. I've got almost

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twenty one hundred subscribers on YouTube.
And you've got this guy that you're talking

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about that started with zero. He
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and now he's got almost as many
as I do, almost over not People

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don't understand the work that goes in
to doing this. We're not out taking

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pictures of the woodline and drawing a
bunch of circles. We're not out having

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our buddies screaming the ground to try
to fake a vocalization. We're putting out

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genuine stuff, talking to people that
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our asses kicked by these other people. And we're not going to call anyone

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out by name. But there are
there's people on Facebook that every day I

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go on Facebook, there's this one
particular person. Every day there's a new

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picture with about five or six red
circles and he's talking about look at the

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face on this one. This one
is materializing through the portal. But Brian,

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what gets me? You had this, and then underneath that you have

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twenty comments. Wow, good catch
Wow, They're always around you, aren't

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they awesome? Fine? Brother?
What is it? What do we have

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to do? I just I don't
understand. How can we make the change?

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How can we change things? I've
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because I'm at a loss as well. I think it has a lot to

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do with just the clickbait mentality that's
going on around the world in general.

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I've read some books recently on podcasting
and how to capture people's attention and bring

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the show to new audiences and things
like that, and a lot of it

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is literally you have to capture somebody's
attention in three seconds or less. That's

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basically what it boils down to.
You have to have a three second catch

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phrase, three second image, whatever
the case may be. And I've experienced

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it on my TikTok channel. I
have put stuff out on TikTok good quality

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interviews. Less Stroud survivor man Less
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couple of years ago, fantastic interview
with a very well known musician. This

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guy was on television for thirteen years
or so with his own pioneering surviving show

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that basically gave birth to a genre. And he's on here talking about bigfoot

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on a bigfoot podcast, on a
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four hundred views. But I can
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somebody walking around in a bigfoot costume
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hours it's got twenty thousand views on
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to is we're in a TikTok mentality. We're in a TikTok time frame of

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life, and that's what people are
clicking on. And it's almost like they

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really don't want real answers anymore,
and it's frustrating for people like us who

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really are into the subject and really
are looking for answers and really want to

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highlight people who have had experiences and
pull that data out and give it out

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to the people who are really doing
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the field. In bigfoot research,
there's a ton of people. They love

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those kind of shows. Obviously,
my show is extremely successful. Your show

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is successful. But it boils down
to if you can put out bullshit and

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put out pictures and draw some red
circle squatches and go out and film trees,

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even if you've had real experiences or
not. That's really all you're doing

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at that point is putting out stuff
that people are buying. And here's the

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trick about it. Like you said, you get the comments of wow,

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that's fantastic, great catch. Oh, I see him right there. Even

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if it's the opposite, people are
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comments. Because even if somebody says, come on, dude, there's nothing

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there but trees, You're full of
shit. Whatever, move on, you

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still got a view, you still
got the click, and you still got

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the comment, which drives it in
the algorithms, and another ten thousand people

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are going to see it because of
those comments. It's never ending. It's

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like the snake eating its tail in
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I certainly hope it changes. I
hope that shows maybe this one we'll start

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breaking some of that stuff down and
putting it in a way where people are

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entertained by whatever we're saying. However, the true reality of it is some

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of that stuff needs to change because
I take bigfoot seriously. Most people who

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listen to this podcast are going to
take bigfoot seriously, and we as a

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community have to start weeding some of
those people out and just not responding to

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what they're putting out there. I
don't know any other way to change it,

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honestly. Yeah, it's so discouraging. It does such a disservice to

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the community, a community that's already
behind the eight ball as far as being

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taken serious by science or by anyone. We're already looked at as crazy.

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And then you have these people that
share images like this where you have to

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draw the red circle. What is
that doing? What's that doing for the

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community. That's given the haters more
reason to hate? And I have said

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it, I'm on record saying it
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the best tool that we have right
now to learn about these creatures, these

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being whatever you think they are,
the best way we have to learn about

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them is by listening to people that
have witnessed them. That's why your show

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is so successful. My show has
seen some success because we target the people

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that have actually seen something. Until
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or the government admits that we have
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we can study on a regular basis. Talking to the people that have witnessed

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their behavior and where they live and
how they act. Those are the people

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that we can learn from right now. And I just want to challenge everyone

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out there. If you're going to
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a dog man, whatever the hell
forest creature you're claiming. If you have

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to draw our circle around what you're
trying to show, don't post it.

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You're not doing any good. You're
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to solve anything. If you have
to explain where the figure is that you're

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trying to show, don't post the
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advice, man, And I second
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a lot of things that don't translate
in photographs. I found some evidence here

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on the property recently. I found
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couple of days ago that I haven't
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to post any pictures of them,
because honestly, the cast turned out too

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good in my opinion, and people
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I'm just not gonna put it out
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I'm gonna keep the cast, and
it's data, right, it's a

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set of data. Because I've casted
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be complete crap. They look great
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are phenomenal, but it's just not
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cast anything, and it just turned
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Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bubbo
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that's one of the things we talked
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and Cliff gave me some encouragement and
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casting real footprints of Bigfoot, they're
probably ninety percent of them I'm gonna turn

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out to be shit. If you're
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that people are seeing they're posting on
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they're probably fake. So if your
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it's probably because you're casting real footprints. I was glad to hear that

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from Cliff, I appreciated. That
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But I do the same thing.
If I go out and post pictures of

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stuff that I have captured in the
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I avoid the circles. But because
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the community of being bullshit, and
it's happened to me with some guests on

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the show recently, some really compelling
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have happened over decades, and they're
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Yet when I say you got pictures
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tons of pictures all the time.
I'll send you twenty five pictures, and

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every single picture is a red circle
squatch. And I asked the question,

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why is it that you're having constant
interactions with these things over twenty or thirty

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years, yet you don't have one
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that there is actually a creature there. It looks like leaves and trees and

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stump and shadows, and it just
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We're not Debbie downers here. We're
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kind of stuff all the time,
but I think it's really important to set

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the tone for the show and let
people know we're not going to pull any

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punches here, and we're going to
talk about some of these hard questions.

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We're gonna ask ourselves some hard questions
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that rabbit hole of if people are
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to call them out and we're going
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bigfoot research down the road. We
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certain subjects. I think mental health
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here in a good way and really
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maybe we'll have some guests on talking
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about some hoaxers. We're gonna go
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to bring back for you guys and
talk about what does happen, what doesn't

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happen, all kinds of stuff.
We'll get into paradolity. I think that's

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part of the reason that we have
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are finding things when there's nothing they
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putting it out there because they believe
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Either way, the red circle squatches
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is there anything that you really want
to address on the show that we can

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look forward to? Wayne? You
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going to cover. Is there anything
that's really pressing for you that you want

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to make sure that we cover in
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Brian, if I'm being honest,
I do have a question for you.

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I'm a little bit worried about you, buddy. Are you afraid at all

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that talk Standing is going to murder
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there on your expedition. You've been
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podcast. You are not the first
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enough, when I first said I
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of people reached out to me through
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and said, Hey, man,
are you at all concerned that this guy's

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trying to lure you up to Canada, and you might disappear after a sasquatch

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drags you into the woods. And
I joked about it. I said,

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no, I don't think that's the
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some over the last couple of years, and I've said it plenty of times.

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I think he's a good dude.
I just think his videos are probably

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fake, and I think they're having
some real stuff go on up there,

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and I hope to experience it.
I'm going up as we record this now

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in a couple of weeks. I'll
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and I'm really looking forward to it. I've talked to a couple of

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people that have come back recently from
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of this year. I know we're
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more in depth than another episode,
and I'll talk a little bit about some

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of those experiences and what I'm looking
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happen when I'm there. Hopefully it
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back to North Carolina and one piece
we joke about it, accidents happen,

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right, sure, No, but
I guess to answer your question more seriously,

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there's just all kinds of stuff that
I'm looking forward to. And to

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be honest, Brian, when you
and I, anytime you and I have

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hung out, we've had a ball, We've had a great time. We're

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friends. We really are friends.
This isn't just a we kind of work

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together. We truly are friends.
We enjoy each other's company and we laugh

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all the time when we're together,
and that's what we want to translate into

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this show. And I've been looking
for a long time now. I've been

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wanting to do a more adult podcast. You know that we can talk about

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things that aren't you aren't necessarily going
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And that's what I'm looking forward to
the most, is just hanging out

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with a buddy, shooting the shit
and just talking about some stuff that's in

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the end that's serious. It really
is serious, and that's what I'm looking

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forward to. Yeah, it's Bigfoot
after Dark with Wayne and Giant. We're

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gonna talk about Bigfoot bullshit and all
the tomfoolery that goes on. I think

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that's a good place to go.
Man, I really want it to be

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fun. It's gonna be lighthearted.
We're going to talk about some serious stuff,

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but this is a place for you
to come and have a good time

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and just kick back with a beer
and join into the camp fire discussions that

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you and I are going to have
about things that probably go through people's there's

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no probability to it. I know
it goes through people's mind because I'm sure,

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just like I do. You get
the emails once you put those shows

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out and people have questions about the
person that you had on or something that

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you said on the show. This
is the place where you can get involved,

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and I want to make that very
clear as well. This is an

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interactive show. I've even thought about
i haven't even talked about this with you,

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Wayne, but I've even thought about
maybe having some call in questions from

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the audience, having people submit questions
via emails. If you have a topic

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that you want to hear on that
Bigfoot podcast, you want Wayne and I

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to go down the rabbit hole with
you on shoot us an email. You

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can get me at Brian at Paranormal
World Productions dot com. You can get

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Wayne at Paranormal World Productions dot com. Those emails come directly to us.

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We read those. So if you
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have a topic that you want us
to cover on that Bigfoot podcast that has

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been burning a hole in your mind, shoot us an email. We'll talk

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about it, and when we have
those shows, we may do some live

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interactive shows at some point in time
and you guys come in and have a

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conversation with us. We want it
to be about the things that you guys

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want to know about in addition to
what we want to talk about. Yeah,

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and just one other thing before we
get out of here, Brian's something

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that you said and I want to
hit on. There's not going to be

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any cross promotion with this show.
If you want to hear what we talk

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about on this show, you got
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We're not going to cross promote on
Sasquatch Odyssey or Paranormal Odyssey. The only

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place you can hear it is right
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in my opinion. I agree.
We'll have links to all the social media

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in the show notes here for all
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Go check out the blogs, Go
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That's where all the shows are.
Wayne and I do multiple shows,

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dot com. I think that's about
it for this first episode. Man.

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I think we've given them enough to
let them know what the show is going

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to be about. I think we
need to get out of here and I

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want to get out in the woods
today. So our plan is to drop

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the first five episodes all at once
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hit that subscribe button now and make
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We're going to drop him at one
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back to back. Sounds good,
be good, guys. I can I

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