Hey, this is movie trailer voice guy and you're listening to Brian and Wayne
on That big Foot Podcast. Hey, folks, and welcome to the very
first episode of That big Foot Podcast. I am your host, Brian coming
to you from the big Foot Bunker here in North Carolina, and my co
host Wayne hiding out lurking in the background like a red circle squatch up in
Tennessee. What's up? Wayne? Loved them red circles. What's going on
at Sasports Central and North Carolina? Not much. As we record, we're
hunkering down because it's running like hell outside. So I am in here,
nice and dry recording our very first inaugural podcast on That big Foot Podcast.
I have been super excited about putting this together. Man. I am so
glad we don't get to work together as much as I'd like to, and
anytime we get to do something together, I am stoked about it. And
I am definitely stoked about this because I think it's going to be something different
for both of us. Have you been as excited about the show as I
have? Man, I can't tell you how excited I have been. Like
you said, it's always fun getting to work together, especially you get to
work with a friend. That's always fun. But I've been telling you and
others that I wanted to do something different for a while now, but not
your grandma's typical podcast. We can be grown ups and talk about the ship
that really bothers us in the big book community, because I don't think there's
a podcast out there right now that does a whole lot of calling people out
on their bullshit. And that's not to say that's what we're going to be
doing all the time, but it's not something that we're going to shy away
from. Yeah, man, I'm stoked. I'm ready to get going with
this thing. Yeah me too, man. I think that's one of the
things that has really bugged me on Sasquatch Odyssey recently, is you have to
be very careful. Right. I can call people out for hoaxing, and
we're certainly going to talk about hoaxes. We're gonna get into some of that
and talk about that in future episodes of the show. But I think it's
important because the one thing that I did in the past, and I've admitted
it on my other shows and as a guest on another podcast, is you
have to stick to the facts. Right, and that's where I've gotten in
trouble in the past myself, is going after the person and not necessarily the
hoax or whatever the evidence that people are putting out there. And I think
that's something that we can definitely do in a way where people understand the points
we're trying to make care on the show, and we're not really about beating
people up, but if you're out there putting out bullshit, we need to
call you out on your bullshit and say it's wrong. It's just something that
needs to be addressed in the big Foot community because I think there's too many
people out there drinking the kool aid man and it really pisses me off.
And one of the things that you and I've been going back and forth about
it, and I'm sure we'll get into this in depth at one point in
time or another on the show, is the following that these people have is
amazing to me. You and I have been doing this for we've been podcasting
longer than me and we both have a really big audience, and we have
a lot of people that are interested in what we're talking about on our other
shows, but it's nothing like these people who put out some of these hoaxes,
and it just seems to me. You were texting me yesterday and we
were going back and forth about Red Circle squatches and some of the people out
there that are perpetrating some of these hoaxes with videos and pictures and some of
the bullshit that they're putting out on their YouTube channel. And they've got seventy
five thousand subscribers or one hundred and fifty thousand subscribers. And it's happened to
me personally, and I know you can probably talk about some of this too.
I have been guilty of giving some of these people, in my opinion,
a platform because you have people on the show that share their experiences.
We do primarily interview based shows outside of this one. And it happened to
me recently. I had a guy on. It was either earlier this year
or late last year, and this guy had four followers on his YouTube channel.
He had not TikTok, he had no other real social media and outlet
for sharing his videos. And he came on and shared some of his experiences,
and he sent me some video of some of the things he was recording,
and by some of the things he's recording I'm talking about literally trees blowing
in the wind. And I posted one of those on my TikTok channel,
and I looked this morning. It's about three hundred and seventy five thousand views
on my TikTok and I also looked at his I think he's posted the same
video on his TikTok channel. It's got like four hundred and fifty to five
hundred thousand views. He now has about nineteen hundred subscribers on YouTube, which
is not killing it. But this guy's putting out videos every single day.
And there are established podcasters out there who have been podcasting for eight or ten
years, doing live shows every single week, bringing on great guests, talking
about great topics in the Bigfoot community, who have less than a thousand subscribers
on their YouTube channel. So it seems to me the way to go is
to put out bullshit, do some red circle squatches, and go film some
trees and get a following in the Bigfoot community. Is that how you feel
about it? Have you experienced that with people you've had on the show?
How do we change that? Ran That's what we need to be focused on,
I believe, and it's not going to do it with one podcast like
like this, that we're not gonna completely change the community, but that needs
to be our goal. I believe, because I mean, you hit it
right on the head. It pisces me off. I've been putting out YouTube,
doing a live interviews on YouTube since around twenty twenty. I've got almost
twenty one hundred subscribers on YouTube. And you've got this guy that you're talking
about that started with zero. He comes on your show with some bogus video
and now he's got almost as many as I do, almost over not People
don't understand the work that goes in to doing this. We're not out taking
pictures of the woodline and drawing a bunch of circles. We're not out having
our buddies screaming the ground to try to fake a vocalization. We're putting out
genuine stuff, talking to people that have had the encounters, and we're getting
our asses kicked by these other people. And we're not going to call anyone
out by name. But there are there's people on Facebook that every day I
go on Facebook, there's this one particular person. Every day there's a new
picture with about five or six red circles and he's talking about look at the
face on this one. This one is materializing through the portal. But Brian,
what gets me? You had this, and then underneath that you have
twenty comments. Wow, good catch Wow, They're always around you, aren't
they awesome? Fine? Brother? What is it? What do we have
to do? I just I don't understand. How can we make the change?
How can we change things? I've asked myself that question so many times
because I'm at a loss as well. I think it has a lot to
do with just the clickbait mentality that's going on around the world in general.
I've read some books recently on podcasting and how to capture people's attention and bring
the show to new audiences and things like that, and a lot of it
is literally you have to capture somebody's attention in three seconds or less. That's
basically what it boils down to. You have to have a three second catch
phrase, three second image, whatever the case may be. And I've experienced
it on my TikTok channel. I have put stuff out on TikTok good quality
interviews. Less Stroud survivor man Less Stroud came on my Sasquatch Odyssey show a
couple of years ago, fantastic interview with a very well known musician. This
guy was on television for thirteen years or so with his own pioneering surviving show
that basically gave birth to a genre. And he's on here talking about bigfoot
on a bigfoot podcast, on a bigfoot podcast TikTok, and it's got like
four hundred views. But I can take a reel that somebody is posted from
somebody walking around in a bigfoot costume and put it on there and within two
hours it's got twenty thousand views on TikTok. That's really what it boils down
to is we're in a TikTok mentality. We're in a TikTok time frame of
life, and that's what people are clicking on. And it's almost like they
really don't want real answers anymore, and it's frustrating for people like us who
really are into the subject and really are looking for answers and really want to
highlight people who have had experiences and pull that data out and give it out
to the people who are really doing the research and maybe push the ball down
the field. In bigfoot research, there's a ton of people. They love
those kind of shows. Obviously, my show is extremely successful. Your show
is successful. But it boils down to if you can put out bullshit and
put out pictures and draw some red circle squatches and go out and film trees,
even if you've had real experiences or not. That's really all you're doing
at that point is putting out stuff that people are buying. And here's the
trick about it. Like you said, you get the comments of wow,
that's fantastic, great catch. Oh, I see him right there. Even
if it's the opposite, people are still watching it. Right You're still getting
comments. Because even if somebody says, come on, dude, there's nothing
there but trees, You're full of shit. Whatever, move on, you
still got a view, you still got the click, and you still got
the comment, which drives it in the algorithms, and another ten thousand people
are going to see it because of those comments. It's never ending. It's
like the snake eating its tail in a way in the Bigfoot community. And
I certainly hope it changes. I hope that shows maybe this one we'll start
breaking some of that stuff down and putting it in a way where people are
entertained by whatever we're saying. However, the true reality of it is some
of that stuff needs to change because I take bigfoot seriously. Most people who
listen to this podcast are going to take bigfoot seriously, and we as a
community have to start weeding some of those people out and just not responding to
what they're putting out there. I don't know any other way to change it,
honestly. Yeah, it's so discouraging. It does such a disservice to
the community, a community that's already behind the eight ball as far as being
taken serious by science or by anyone. We're already looked at as crazy.
And then you have these people that share images like this where you have to
draw the red circle. What is that doing? What's that doing for the
community. That's given the haters more reason to hate? And I have said
it, I'm on record saying it so many times. In my opinion,
the best tool that we have right now to learn about these creatures, these
being whatever you think they are, the best way we have to learn about
them is by listening to people that have witnessed them. That's why your show
is so successful. My show has seen some success because we target the people
that have actually seen something. Until we have one of these things in captivity,
or the government admits that we have one in captivity or whatever, that
we can study on a regular basis. Talking to the people that have witnessed
their behavior and where they live and how they act. Those are the people
that we can learn from right now. And I just want to challenge everyone
out there. If you're going to post a picture of a big boot of
a dog man, whatever the hell forest creature you're claiming. If you have
to draw our circle around what you're trying to show, don't post it.
You're not doing any good. You're not answering any questions. It's not going
to solve anything. If you have to explain where the figure is that you're
trying to show, don't post the damn picture. Yeah, that's a good
advice, man, And I second that because I've done that myself. There's
a lot of things that don't translate in photographs. I found some evidence here
on the property recently. I found some stuff and casting some footprints just a
couple of days ago that I haven't even talked about. I'm not even going
to post any pictures of them, because honestly, the cast turned out too
good in my opinion, and people are probably gonna say it's bullshit. So
I'm just not gonna put it out there. I'm gonna keep it to myself.
I'm gonna keep the cast, and it's data, right, it's a
set of data. Because I've casted some other stuff recently it turned out to
be complete crap. They look great in the ground, some of the pictures
are phenomenal, but it's just not deep enough in the substrate for me to
cast anything, and it just turned out to be crap. I went on
Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bubbo about a week or so ago, and
that's one of the things we talked about when I was on the show,
and Cliff gave me some encouragement and said, look, dude, if you're
casting real footprints of Bigfoot, they're probably ninety percent of them I'm gonna turn
out to be shit. If you're casting real footprints, these that look perfect
that people are seeing they're posting on Facebook and in these groups and on YouTube,
they're probably fake. So if your stuff is turning out to be crap,
it's probably because you're casting real footprints. I was glad to hear that
from Cliff, I appreciated. That still doesn't make me feel any better.
But I do the same thing. If I go out and post pictures of
stuff that I have captured in the woods or whatever the case may be,
I avoid the circles. But because it just has this connotation to me in
the community of being bullshit, and it's happened to me with some guests on
the show recently, some really compelling stories that people tell about their encounters that
have happened over decades, and they're basically in habituation situations with these creatures.
Yet when I say you got pictures of them, oh yeah, I've take
tons of pictures all the time. I'll send you twenty five pictures, and
every single picture is a red circle squatch. And I asked the question,
why is it that you're having constant interactions with these things over twenty or thirty
years, yet you don't have one photograph that anybody can look at and discern
that there is actually a creature there. It looks like leaves and trees and
stump and shadows, and it just doesn't lend any more credibility to the subjects.
We're not Debbie downers here. We're not going to be talking about this
kind of stuff all the time, but I think it's really important to set
the tone for the show and let people know we're not going to pull any
punches here, and we're going to talk about some of these hard questions.
We're gonna ask ourselves some hard questions when it comes to research and go down
that rabbit hole of if people are out there putting out bullshit, we're going
to call them out and we're going to try to focus on what's really pushing
bigfoot research down the road. We may have some guests on to talk about
certain subjects. I think mental health and bigfoot is something that we can address
here in a good way and really have a great conversation about that, So
maybe we'll have some guests on talking about that. We're certainly going to talk
about some hoaxers. We're gonna go out on some expeditions and have some stuff
to bring back for you guys and talk about what does happen, what doesn't
happen, all kinds of stuff. We'll get into paradolity. I think that's
part of the reason that we have so many red circle squatches, as people
are finding things when there's nothing they and they're not necessarily hoaxing. They're just
putting it out there because they believe something's there or they think something's there.
Either way, the red circle squatches are not doing anybody any favors. So
is there anything that you really want to address on the show that we can
look forward to? Wayne? You and I haven't talked about every topic we're
going to cover. Is there anything that's really pressing for you that you want
to make sure that we cover in these first few episodes of the show.
Brian, if I'm being honest, I do have a question for you.
I'm a little bit worried about you, buddy. Are you afraid at all
that talk Standing is going to murder you in the woods when you head up
there on your expedition. You've been pretty vocal about the fella over your time
podcast. You are not the first person to ask me that question. Funny
enough, when I first said I was going up with Todd, a lot
of people reached out to me through text messages and private messages and even emails
and said, Hey, man, are you at all concerned that this guy's
trying to lure you up to Canada, and you might disappear after a sasquatch
drags you into the woods. And I joked about it. I said,
no, I don't think that's the case, because I've gotten to know Todd
some over the last couple of years, and I've said it plenty of times.
I think he's a good dude. I just think his videos are probably
fake, and I think they're having some real stuff go on up there,
and I hope to experience it. I'm going up as we record this now
in a couple of weeks. I'll be up there in the first of October,
and I'm really looking forward to it. I've talked to a couple of
people that have come back recently from some recent investigations, as recently as July
of this year. I know we're going to talk about Todd a little bit
more in depth than another episode, and I'll talk a little bit about some
of those experiences and what I'm looking forward to and what may or may not
happen when I'm there. Hopefully it won't be murdered. Hopefully I'll make it
back to North Carolina and one piece we joke about it, accidents happen,
right, sure, No, but I guess to answer your question more seriously,
there's just all kinds of stuff that I'm looking forward to. And to
be honest, Brian, when you and I, anytime you and I have
hung out, we've had a ball, We've had a great time. We're
friends. We really are friends. This isn't just a we kind of work
together. We truly are friends. We enjoy each other's company and we laugh
all the time when we're together, and that's what we want to translate into
this show. And I've been looking for a long time now. I've been
wanting to do a more adult podcast. You know that we can talk about
things that aren't you aren't necessarily going to hear on Sasquatch Odyssey or Paranormal Odyssey.
And that's what I'm looking forward to the most, is just hanging out
with a buddy, shooting the shit and just talking about some stuff that's in
the end that's serious. It really is serious, and that's what I'm looking
forward to. Yeah, it's Bigfoot after Dark with Wayne and Giant. We're
gonna talk about Bigfoot bullshit and all the tomfoolery that goes on. I think
that's a good place to go. Man, I really want it to be
fun. It's gonna be lighthearted. We're going to talk about some serious stuff,
but this is a place for you to come and have a good time
and just kick back with a beer and join into the camp fire discussions that
you and I are going to have about things that probably go through people's there's
no probability to it. I know it goes through people's mind because I'm sure,
just like I do. You get the emails once you put those shows
out and people have questions about the person that you had on or something that
you said on the show. This is the place where you can get involved,
and I want to make that very clear as well. This is an
interactive show. I've even thought about i haven't even talked about this with you,
Wayne, but I've even thought about maybe having some call in questions from
the audience, having people submit questions via emails. If you have a topic
that you want to hear on that Bigfoot podcast, you want Wayne and I
to go down the rabbit hole with you on shoot us an email. You
can get me at Brian at Paranormal World Productions dot com. You can get
Wayne at Paranormal World Productions dot com. Those emails come directly to us.
We read those. So if you have a question for us, or you
have a topic that you want us to cover on that Bigfoot podcast that has
been burning a hole in your mind, shoot us an email. We'll talk
about it, and when we have those shows, we may do some live
interactive shows at some point in time and you guys come in and have a
conversation with us. We want it to be about the things that you guys
want to know about in addition to what we want to talk about. Yeah,
and just one other thing before we get out of here, Brian's something
that you said and I want to hit on. There's not going to be
any cross promotion with this show. If you want to hear what we talk
about on this show, you got to come to this show and listen.
We're not going to cross promote on Sasquatch Odyssey or Paranormal Odyssey. The only
place you can hear it is right here. That's going to be another plus
in my opinion. I agree. We'll have links to all the social media
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dot com. I think that's about it for this first episode. Man.
I think we've given them enough to let them know what the show is going
to be about. I think we need to get out of here and I
want to get out in the woods today. So our plan is to drop
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We're going to drop him at one time so you can listen to them
back to back. Sounds good, be good, guys. I can I
can, I can I do