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Y'all ripped up news, need advice? Who you don't have? Come running

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just as fast as we can shoot. That's gonna help coming, man.

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This is the Troubleshooter Show. No
Tom Martino, Hey, Hey, hey,

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Tom Martino here three oh three seven
one three talk seven one three eight

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two five five. What's on your
mind today? I'd love to help you

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with a problem, a question of
complain anything near and dear to your heart

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and pocketbook we talk about. There's
nothing really off limits to talk about.

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If you'd like to talk, I'd
love to have you call in. Today's

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a kind of a dreary day.
We have a guest from the refer list

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here. We have guests on from
time time. We have Jackson with us,

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Jackson. I've known Jackson for many, many years with k Guard and

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Jackson. Why don't you explain what
you do? Well? Good morning,

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mister Martina. Thanks you call me
Tom please. Sorry, I know I'm

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old, old, I'm through your
grandfather, but you can still call me

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Tom. Yes, sir, well
Tom, and keep the mic real close

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to your mouth there, Yeah,
first time, so you forgive me,

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yes, sir well, just gutter
protection. So at the end of the

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day, you have a few different
options. You have screens, filters,

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and then hardcovers. Those hardcovers you've
probably seen it on TV where the water

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rolls back against gravity all the hard
material. Gut her helmet's a good example.

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That's exactly right. So there's only
three companies that own the patent rights

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to that reverse curve. You have
gutter helmet those, yes, sir,

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good one sorry tom so you have
you have gutter helmet. You have is

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key guard the name of the system
or the name of your company only both?

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Actually yes, sir, so,
so who's the other one? You

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have to leave guard? Leaf guard? Now? Leaf guard, though,

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is the whole gutter. So gutter
coil comes in at fifteen inches maximum and

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leaf guard owns the patent rights on
turning that fifteen inches into a gutter and

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cover all in one. So are
you a hole gutter? So ours is

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a yes, a hole gutter.
And well, when you come into a

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house, you don't put the top
on it like the screens or like a

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gutter helmet, you put the whole
gutter up. Correct, So gutter helmet

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owns the patent rights on the curve
that goes on top of a normal gutter.

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The only issue there is they go
into the roof, so you may

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have some issues with roofing warranties.
But with ours, it's a trough and

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a cover all built together, and
then one gutter, yes sir, yes,

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sir, and it comes in four
or five inches. It's actually this

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equivalent of a six inch okay yep. So leaf Guard was originally built back

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in the seventies, when your average
gutter was a four or five inch,

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your average home was eighteen hundred,
two thousand square feet. In today's world,

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those homes are much bigger. So
if you think about your house,

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it's basically a giant net that catches
everything out of the sky and then funnels

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all that water to three or four
downspouts. Well, in order to hold

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that waters all the way through the
system, you just need bigger gutters.

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No, no, I agree.
But the people that would sell against you

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would say, why replace all your
gutters when we can just cover them up?

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Absolutely? The better question is no. I like the idea. I'm

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going to say this right up front, not because you're here. I like

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the idea of the whole new system. I like it. I always have

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liked that idea. But then people
would tell me, well, Tom,

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if they have perfectly good gutters,
why do it well perfectly? It's probably

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a hard thing because number one,
what beats gutters isn't water, it's ice.

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So as we put a bunch of
weight on them, they pull on

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them and in between your brackets,
the metal will start to give. And

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that's why when you look down you'll
see the undulated gutters, the flowing gutters,

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and that's where you have. Yeah, and that's where on top of

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that, now you're going to go
work on them putting on a cover.

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So those gutters aren't really perfect my
name, you know what I mean?

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I like that. Now? Are
they painted at the factory? Are they

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embedded with paint? Yes? Tom, So we don't have maintenance on that,

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right. Can you paint them if
you want to, Yes, I

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wouldn't recommend it, not when you're
powder coated or however baked on from the

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factory. Are they extruded as seamless
Yes. On site, so we have

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a thirty five foot box truck that
brings out the gutter machines. Yes.

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So if you have a long run, you don't have a bunch of seams.

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Yeah. Our longest is one hundred
and eighteen feet down in color Springs

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cool seven. You guys, if
you have any questions on that this is

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his season, I would imagine what
are you do in the winter go to

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the beach? Yes, sir,
yeah, so k guard. By the

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way, on the refer list,
referless dot com, Ludmilla. I hope

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I'm saying that name right? Is
it Ludmilla? Hello? Yes, Hey,

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that's a weird name. I mean
in a nice way. What kind

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of name is that? Ludmilla?
Russian? Russian? Okay, what's going

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on, Ludmilla, what's happening?
Yes, but my children purchased a gift

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card flyne travel gift cards from Frontier
Airlines yes and seven and it was supposed

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to be no fee, no expiration
date. I tried to use it finally

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last year after numerous So it's a
Frontier Airlines gift card, correct, And

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it's a travel gift card. I
didn't know that. I didn't know they

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did those. Well, this is
that way in two thousand and seven it

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was yeah, I mean that's a
long time. So you you've had this

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since then, and let me guess
you can't use it. I can't use

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it. I can use it on
merchandise Frontier Airlines merchandise, but I'm not

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going to spend two on a hat. And let me ask you some of

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lue Miller. Originally it was for
flight correct and I'm wondering, did is

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this the same? And I'm sorry
to ask this and I should know it.

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But over the years, Frontier has
had many forms. Is this the

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same company that sold those vouchers?
Do you know are those gifts? Yes?

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It is, Yes, it is. It's the same Frontier Airlines.

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Okay, okay, service? All
right? Now the terms and conditions when

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you bring it up to them,
what do they say when you say,

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hey, why won't you honor it? I mean it's pretty clear. What

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do they say? Does it say
it expires? I mean, to me,

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seven seventeen would have made it ten
years, and then eighteen ninety we're

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talking about sixteen years, right,
correct? And it was purchased my late

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husband passed away in two thousand and
six, so my children bought it as

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a Christmas I get yeah, no, no, I get it. But

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what do the terms in? What
do the terms and conditions do? It

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said no expiration dates and there was
no fees because I was worried about the

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fees that you know how they have
charge and they charge you monthly at fee

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and then you have to Does it
say that right on the gift card?

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Does it say no? Expert?
Does yes? I set that to your

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office in an email. Uh do
do we have that? Susan? I

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want to look I'll email it to
you. Yeah, she's going to email

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that to me. I want to
take a look at it. I really

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do no expiration date, you know, I mean, I don't see how

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they get around it unless they say, well, you know, Tom,

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I mean it's been seventeen or however
many years, it's still in my opinion,

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I mean, they don't put any
kind of expiration. I want to

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look at it. Okay, hold
on, all right, well we'll look

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at it. See. You know, why would Frontier do this? Why

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would they screw around for two hundred
bus'd she say two hundred and seventy bucks

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or two forty two thirty whatever.
Here's the thing, Ldmela. I agree

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with you. It sounds RINKYDNK to
me. Three oh three seven one three

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talk seven one three eight two five
five. Then that's in the studio here.

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Of course, you know we have
three oh three Martino. You can

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call twenty four to seven. The
good thing about that number, we will

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take your number and call you back. That's three oh three Martino three O

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three six two seven eight four sixty
six. Lisa, Hi, Lisa,

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what's happening? Lisa? I need
to take a client to small claims and

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I want to make sure do I
just send it to the registered agent or

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do I send it to the owners
at their home as well? Good question,

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Well, we'll go over it because, uh, we have gotten to

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be experts here because Mark has sued
so many people in small claims court,

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which is a good thing because he
won every time. We'll talk about that

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oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty
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seven to one three talk. By
the way, the Castle Rock Home Show

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it's going to be starting tomorrow.
Today's Thursday, right at least it was

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when I woke up, So anyway, it's starting tomorrow at the Douglas County

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Fairgrounds. More than three hundred people. Are you are you you're going to

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be down there or no? We
were in the Kiwa I'll lookay show and

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we just finished with the Evergreen.
I think they're the same people and they're

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putting on one and they're really good
one stop shop for to just go around

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and look at a bunch of stuff. And that's starting tomorrow at noon,

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the cash Rock Home Show at Douglas
County Fairgrind. So it's kind of cool,

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Okay. Now Lisa wants to talk
about small claims. So Lisa,

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out of curiosity, I'd like to
ask what kind of business where you're suing

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a client? What? Because there
are other ways to do this, I

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just want to go over it all. So what is the business? Own

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business? Were electrical contractors? Oh? Okay? And is this so you

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did work on a commercial building.
Yes, replacement an overhead line that had

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been damaged. You know, you
can put a lien on the property,

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which, in my opinion gets their
attention. It's been too long. We

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did the work like in August,
uh huh, and there is no other

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work that needs to be done to
make it safe or perfect, like because

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it's four months from the last time
you left the job. I'm not trying

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to be tricky, wink wink,
but sometimes people find that, oh,

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you know, the inspector wanted us
to do this, and then they didn't

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want to do it because they didn't
get paid, And I tell them,

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go back, I can do it, so you can start your four months

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again. You see what I'm saying. But anyway, just in case the

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inspector ever said, you know,
how about this or how about that,

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or there was something you didn't do
because they weren't paying, you may want

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to do it just to get that
extension. But having said that, if

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you if you're not going to lean
the job, then small claims court would

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be one option. How much do
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Okay, now, if they owe
you fifteen hundred, that's a pretty

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good amount. And so I want
to ask something though, why are they

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not paying? Are they claiming something
is wrong? They won't talk to us.

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We've done two or th other jobs
for them, and I have no

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clue what happened. Okay, and
they won't talk to at all. No,

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that's weird. Okay, So small
claims court, who did you contract

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with the entity itself? Right?
The owner called? Were out of town

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and an employee had hit an overlying
Okay, and when the employer the employer

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called, and you can prove you
did the work because even if he said,

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well, we didn't have a contract, it doesn't matter. It's falls

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under what's called quantum quantum merrowit,
which means they got the value and they

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didn't object. So you did the
work. And then he called, So

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I would sue him, and I
would sue his company. If you don't

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have a written contract, I would
claim that he did. He requested the

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work personally and the company, so
I would sue both of them in small

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claims court. So there are two
separate forms. I believe. I believe

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that I can ask Mark, but
I believe you can put both defendants on

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one form. But then you have
to serve two different times. Okay,

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okay, So you can sue them
both on one form I believe. But

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then you sue, then you serve
too. So what you would do is

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you serve him personally wherever he is, if he's there, not you,

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but somebody like a process server or
somebody not related. And then then you

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sue the registered agent of the corporate
LLC. And it's most likely him,

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but you you know how to look
that up on the Secretary of State site.

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I do. Okay, So do
you have a registered agent separate from

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the owner his wife is to serve
them both, and then you can ask

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for reasonable interest. You can ask
for attorney's fees. Well you're not going

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to have any but minor collection fees. But like the cost of small claims

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court is what I'm saying. So
another thing, if you want us to

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we don't mind calling and saying why
aren't you paying this? Why aren't you

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paying these people? I mean,
we do that all the time. Now,

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we're not a collection agy, don't
get me wrong, But this is

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a consumer show. So if you're
a small business, you're working with another

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small business, it's kind of it's
kind of like consumer I mean, it's

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not like some giant contractor did work
at the airport. Now we have to

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get them paid. You know what
I'm saying. If you want us to

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no, I understand. So if
ever you want us to do that,

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sus you can give that to her, give it to dollar if she wants

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to, you know. So,
uh, let's do it. Three oh

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three seven one three talk three oh
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and lude, Milla, what was
that? Let's see. Oh yeah,

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we're going to have to figure that
out. Do I have it in my

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email right now? It should be
in your email to Okay, I'm going

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to look at it right now.
Did she tell you the date on that?

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Yeah? Two thousand and seven?
Whoa, huh? I know,

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no, I we we know it's
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like, what fifteen years old?
Yeah? But where's the she gave

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me a letter she didn't get Oh, where's the voucher? Scroll all the

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way to the last page. Okay, the voucher. Okay, but this

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was like, this is like an
email, I don't it is like an

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email voucher. It has the voucher
number, the pin number, okay,

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and it says mom, we love
you so much. Yeah. Here it

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is the voucher and pen and then
conditions there they are. Let mean,

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let me, I'm going to enlarge
this screen. Okay, conditions for Frontier

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Airlines gift card. Gift cards have
no value until activated at the time of

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purchase. Okay, what does that
mean at the time of purchase? Did

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at the time they was this activated? I mean, I don't even let

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me ask her, Ludmilla, was
this activated? Yes? It was.

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I knew exactly what it was,
except where required by law. Gift cards

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will not be replaced if lost solar
damage, nor can they be redeemed for

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cash. Have no expiration date.
And then it says see Frontier Airline slash

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gift card for full term. Uh
oh, I need to look at that

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part. That's what I need to
look at. Did you look at that

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part? Yes, I did,
and there was nothing that said an that's

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one more place I need to look. So I call that phone number and

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they're no longer there. So that's
when I did corporate office. I get

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it. I get it. But
what I'm saying is Frontier Airlines is still

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there and I'm wondering if they have
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Frontier Airlines dot Com and then you
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it says. Yes, Susan,
somebody's mentioning I think it's Chopper is saying

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on YouTube that is Frontier has been
sold a couple of times, so well

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no, and we mentioned that,
and can we mention that? But was

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it since seven? That's what he's
saying. If that's the case, see,

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that's a problem too. So if
there is another entity, all bets

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are off. I mean, if
it is enough. But they didn't even

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try to make well what did they
say, actually what exactly? They said?

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I could use a gift card in
their store at the airline, But

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why did they say you couldn't use
it? Yeah, they have no page

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that exists that says Frontier dot com
slash gift cards. So what I'm going

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to have to do this is crazy. There's something called an archive of the

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Internet, and it's not going to
matter what their terms and conditions are today.

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It's going to matter what they were
when you bought it. And archive

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I believe it's archive of the Web, archive dot net, whatever it is.

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I got to find it and when
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it so we go to the web
archive and then we look for those dates

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or close to that date. It's
called the wayback machine. And I know

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this is weird because you go to
the wayback machine, We're going to put

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in Frontier Airlines and then what we're
going to find is what it looked like

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back then and hopefully that was that
was put away and saved, so we'll

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see. You think it's different,
is why would they allow me to use

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it in their store as well?
Hold on, here's why I think.

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First of all, I think it's
RinkyDink. They're giving you a hard time

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no matter what. I think it's
stupid, even if they were sold.

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But here's why I think they're doing
that. They're doing it. Let's just

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say the terms and conditions at the
time, whatever whatever they were, and

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then yours is not valid. Okay. I'm just saying. If that's the

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case, then even then what they
would have. What they're doing is they're

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probably saying, but we're going to
still let you do it for merchandise.

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I'm not saying that's the case.
Let's just figure it out. I'm going

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to look at what was on their
site back in the early two thousands,

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and see if we can come up
with something three zero three seven one three

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installed triple filter reverse osmosis. You
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in fact, I'm in the studio
today and one of the things I

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don't like about coming into the studio
is drinking this bottled water. I don't

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care what the name is because they're
filled with crap and nanoplastics, And at

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three oh three nine two zero sixteen
twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three

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oh three seven one three talk three
O three seven one three eight two five

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five. I am having a tough
time finding this the wayback machine. I'm

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kind of back there, but that
one particular page, I'm not sure they

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bookmarked it. It's such a pain
in the ass. She's had this since

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two thousand and seven, and again
they're telling her she can use it only

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in the store. I will tell
you this, Mela. We can't do

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this right now, but I'm going
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he emailed me about it. He
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thousand and seven a couple of times, which would mean that your gift cards

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are no longer valid. So I
can assure you that when they sell entities,

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none of the obligations carry forward.
Unless people are morons. They never

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ever structure a sell that way.
Yes, we will take on all of

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your debt or all of your previous
stuff. Don't do it. So I'm

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going to give this to sus Let's
let Dak find out our deputy Chopper,

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Okay, to him. He's in
Costa Rica for a couple of weeks.

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Did you know that he's in Costa
Rica? Yeah, these jerks are all

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taking vacations. I'm the only one
who's I mean, I'm the one who

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should be on the beach, not
him. Do it time and then you

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and Mark. I mean, you
know what. I just was talking to

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somebody the other day about it,
and I said, maybe it's because I

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just love my life and what I
do. I know it sounds corny,

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but I guess I should be retiring
soon, right, I guess I should.

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Okay, you want to come in
here, I'll leave. Please don't

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do that. Three h three seven
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five five. I think I'd probably
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into the space and make believe of
talking to people I don't know. Jackson's

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with us from k Guard and Jackson. I have a question from somebody who

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wants to know about these gutters.
Do they come any bigger that you say

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it's equivalent to six inches? Well, excuse me, they didn't say bigger.

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What does that mean? Is it
a six inch gutter? So the

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way a six inch cutter is designed
is you're six inches at the widest point

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three and a half inches tall.
And it tapers back to a four inch

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bottom. Ours is actually six and
a quarter inches tall five and a half

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inches wide, and it's actually more
volume. Yeah, more volume, more

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volume than a six inch yes,
sir, yes, sir, okay.

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And ice damming usually anything with a
cover on it is subject to ice damming.

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Sometimes, does this happen? Yes, So ice damming actually starts on

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the eaves. Yeah. So yeah, you have your thermal wall and then

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you have a soft the soffet has
coal. They're bringing it up to the

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roof, and so it starts about
a foot back. So you mean it's

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not because of gutter covers, No, not at all. Actually, it's

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just you see more icicles because usually
with an open gutter, it fills up

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the trough first, so that with
volume of ice yeah yeah, yeah,

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whereas a cover all covers, all
ice goes over the top, right,

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So it looks like more ice.
Yes, they don't produce the same amount

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of ice, yes, but it's
just all on the outside. Correct.

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So instead of when you have an
open gutter, ice back builds under your

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shingles, under your drip edge.
And that's why code requires ice and water

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on the last two feet. Ice
and water dam shield shield rightyep, under

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the roof. That's to protect your
sawfets in the face aboard and all that

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eaves because ice does back up against
you. Yeah, all covers push the

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ice forward with that little slope.
But as a result, the byproduct is

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icicles. And that's where you see
a lot of those zigzag heat cables on

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the edges. That's what they're trying
to prevent is ice damming. So ice

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stamming starts about six or eight inches
up the roof, and that you do

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heat cable as an option. We
do actually see automatic resistance heat cable,

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so you just leave it on all
the time you can yep, and it

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only comes on where you need it
when you need it. Well, so

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I mean it's it's resistance bass what
I mean? Right, Yes, So

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it's a wire. But the problem
with that is you don't have a you

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don't have a thermostat on it?
Oh you do? Yours has one?

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Yeah, they're are thermostats included in
it. What about the one the wire

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that has the that's like built to
just come on when needed. Have you

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heard of that? So there's sensors, ones that have moisture sensors and the

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spine. Those are semi effected.
You've met that blue wire that it's it's

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heat. So what happens is cold
reduces the resistance. Okay, so you

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don't really have to tell it where
to put current. When it gets cold,

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the resistance is lowered and it goes
to that area. That's true.

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The only like caveat to that is
in Colorado, we'll have a snowstorm,

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it'll be gone in three days,
and every night after that it's still going

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to get cold. So you're running
that cable while it's cold versus you only

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need it when there's moisture there.
Oh, I see, whereas the other

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you're right, and the blue wire
comes on no matter what, just because

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it's close. Anyway, what does
that cost per foot? When you add

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heat wire to gut a gutter,
usually you're around fifteen to eighteen bucks just

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for the wire. Well, so
what we use is the commercial cable.

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You can go to home depot and
get those real little cord heat cables.

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They're like one hundred and sixty two
hundred bucks for you know, one hundred

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and sixty three what it is.
Yeah, but those only have a one

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year warranty and you can't overlap them. They're pretty So these you put up

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and they're good for years and years
and years, and their thermostatically controlled.

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Yeah, those are fifteen year warranties
if you go to your wells fargo.

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But they're moisture based, not thermostat
based. Those are thermostat based. Can

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you get moisture based ones? Yes. They make a sensor that has a

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six foot spine and if six inches
of it or more get wet, it

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turns the system on and that's when
those cables get turned on Base Sun Moisture.

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We've had relatively good success with those. Yeah. Yeah, they're hitting

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miss three oh three seven one three
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here? Yes, who's well?
Real quick? Tom? I just had

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someone call about Frontier. They did
file bankruptcy as a few years back too,

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So oh then that totally did away
with her gift card. Eh.

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I mean, first of all,
sales do it? Bankruptcies do it?

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I mean that? I mean,
first of all, how do you sit

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on a gift certificate since two thousand
and seven? I mean there's sixteen years?

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How do you do that? How
do you do that? Maybe she

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loves your life like you do I
mean, you know, she didn't she

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didn't want to use it. She
didn't want to fly a point. But

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no, gift cards are like,
are just totally I mean, what can

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I tell you? I mean they
have to be used. In fact,

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I don't I don't particularly love it
now, it says here Tom, anyone

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who lives in Denver knows Frontier has
been sold so many times. It's not

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it's silly. And then what's going
on with the cyber truck. Here's a

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text I got, yes, I
read about that they stopped production. Apparently

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the owners even got do not drive
warnings because they take off and go nuts

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full speed. And you know,
Tesla's having his challenges. They've laid off

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ten percent of the workforce, which
is pretty pretty significant. They say they

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may lay off more. Susan Mark
said. Also, the full driving feature

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down went from two hundred to one
hundred a month. One hundred bucks a

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month, I know it. And
they gave everyone a thirty day trial because

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most people at have it, including
my son. He said, holy crap,

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it's like the best thing he's ever
had. And it's and now that

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it's just one hundred bucks a month, he's trying to hit me up for

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it. I'm not going to do
it, but but I'm not going to

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add that on. He can pay
for it if he wants to, but

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we know that won't happen. So
I just think, I just think that

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that is a smart move because really
there is no cost of sale. See

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there. I mean there's the cost
of goods in development, but come on,

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once that's done. The brilliant thing
about software and downloads to cars and

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satellite transmissions, you have no cost
per unit. So by doing this,

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he's going to increase revenue. It's
pretty obvious. Okay, Yeah, we

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can have Uh, we never know
what's going to happen. Sometimes we're slams,

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sometime we're not. But you can
get your calls into three oh three

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seven one three talk three oh three
seven to one three eight two five five,

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or you can call three oh three
Martino. And don't forget the Castle

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Rock Home Show starting tomorrow at noon. That's at the Douglas County fair Grounds,

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more than three hundred booths. Go
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oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty
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three all three seven one three talks
seven one three eight two five five Joel,

410
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.960
Welcome to the show. What's going
on? Good morning, sir.

411
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:48.640
Hey, I'm calling because, uh
there's a there's been some fraud committed and

412
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:56.319
uh they they forced singisers on property
and the property owner is my mom,

413
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.079
really, and I'm gonna get her
somehow because she so tell me what kind

414
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.640
of fraud? Now, you know? Is it like somebody forged the title?

415
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:11.599
Yes, and uh there was an
ordery she was involved to and she

416
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:18.559
knew exactly what was going on and
she she authorized the signatures. So what

417
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:26.039
did they do? Did they claim
that they bought your mom's house? Yes,

418
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.240
they claimed they bought them up my
mom's house and it was zero fun.

419
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.759
So they pretty much got it for
free in that No. No,

420
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.079
but hold on, But there's a
whole bunch I need to ask and thank

421
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:40.039
you for calling for your mother.
So, first and foremost, how did

422
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:45.440
you discover this? Let's go there. My brother and I we were trying

423
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.319
to move in into that property.
Why is it vacant? That was it

424
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.960
vacant? What? My mom always
rented that problem? She always Okay,

425
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.960
that's where I want to start.
Then, Joel, this was a rental

426
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.920
property of your mom's, Yes,
sir, okay, go ahead. And

427
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.359
then it was vacant and you wanted
to move in, yes, And at

428
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:10.119
the end she ended up telling her
that they committed fraud on her. Well,

429
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.519
hold on, So when you went
to move in, did someone stop

430
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.359
you? No? I told my
mom about it, and she said,

431
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.680
how did you find out about it? See, Joe, I need to

432
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.960
know what happened. You went to
move into the rental Take it from there.

433
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:26.279
No, I wasn't going to move
in. I told my mom about

434
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.039
the house. There's no way I
could move in. She said no,

435
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.359
because there's a person that already did
a scam on me. And I don't

436
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.599
know what to do anymore. And
oh my god, I got it.

437
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.759
Your brother and you go ahead.
We went to the Adams County records and

438
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.000
we pull out some records and we
pull out some fake signatures and it's not

439
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:49.480
my mo Ow's signature, and the
coastliner that's not So what are they?

440
00:31:51.039 --> 00:32:00.519
How long ago were these papers filed? It's two thousand and six eighteen on

441
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.400
some documents that I have with it, so some of them were way back

442
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.799
then. So what has your mom
been doing since then? I mean,

443
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.799
this doesn't make sense. So your
mom has rentals and somebody stole the rental

444
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.359
or claimed they bought it back in
two thousand and sixteen. What has she

445
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.079
been doing since then? Well,
she never confessed to us. She never

446
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.480
told there was nothing before. When
did she find When did she find out

447
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:32.000
about it? That same year?
And she never did anything about it.

448
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.119
She went to the Adams kind of
shares and they were being biased. They

449
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.079
couldn't get no old records from the
signatures or anything. But now, okay,

450
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:45.400
then how did she know back in
twenty sixteen that the house had been

451
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:52.160
stolen because of the tenant and she
was trying to kick him out of the

452
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.599
property and the tenant said, the
tenant says, you're not the landlord.

453
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.039
Yes, and the Adam's kind of
showed up and they removed us from the

454
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:07.759
property and removed your mom from her
and said this is no longer your house.

455
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.880
Yes, sir, So your mom
went home and never told you guys

456
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.200
about it. Yes, And I'm
just sound now I told them. But

457
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.920
it's too late. I mean,
I don't know of anything that can be

458
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.119
done now. I mean, even
if it was fraud, and it probably

459
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:28.039
was. Now before people say to
me, that's why people should have tidle

460
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:32.839
lock, I say, no,
this thing, no title lock, is

461
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.240
a bunch of crap, And I'll
tell you why it's a bunch of crap.

462
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:45.319
But but I will tell you what
what probably went on. Hold on,

463
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.799
Joel, do not hang up,
and we'll figure this out. I'm

464
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.240
not sure what we can do,
but let's explore all options. This is

465
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:59.039
not the first time homes have been
stolen. And will tell you how and

466
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gonna help. Come man, This
is the Troubleshooter Show. No Martino,

475
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Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome
to the show. Three zho three seven

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one to three talk seven one three
eight two five five. You guessed it.

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The home show starting tomorrow at noon. That's in Castle. That's the

478
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Castrock Home Show with over three hundred
booths. I like it because as a

479
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.440
consumer advocate, I love people to
be able to sit in one place or

480
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:25.360
walk around one place and see like
more than three hundred and thirty merchants for

481
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:31.440
their home home improvement show. Uh. And that's free admission, free admission.

482
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:37.920
I should have mentioned that. So
let's keep going. Now we have

483
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:44.239
someone on from the Unemployment Division.
He's the director and Phil's Spshart Boy has

484
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.159
he been a busy man over the
last few years. It started with COVID.

485
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:51.679
Oh my god, the fraud that
went on, can't even imagine.

486
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.119
Well, we got a call from
one person yesterday, and then after that

487
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:07.639
several other people and they all said
their unemployment benefits are delayed several weeks because

488
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:13.840
of something that was called an integrity
hold. So like, for example,

489
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.320
yesterday, was it yesterday? Melissa
calls and says Tom, it was two

490
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.519
days ago. Melissa called and said, Tom, when I applied for unemployment,

491
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.480
I didn't get it, and they
said it's going to be a while

492
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.920
because there is an integrity hold.
So I didn't know what that was.

493
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:36.119
And Phil is always transparent and tells
us everything when it comes to the State

494
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:44.159
Unemployment Division. And other people called
in and said everyone gets automatically integrity holds

495
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.320
so they can investigate it. So
Phil wants to clear all this up.

496
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.320
So Phil, thank you, mister
spez Art, appreciate this as you're the

497
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.280
director. Now I should call you, mister spez Art. What's going on?

498
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:59.000
Sure? Thanks Tom, Yeah,
it's interesting to hear those rumors.

499
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.119
So clarify couple of things here.
The one thing that everybody has to go

500
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:07.360
through and when they found unemployment insurance
claim is identity verification. So one hundred

501
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.159
percent of people go through that.
That's a process that can be completed in

502
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.400
a matter of seconds or minutes.
Is that ID Is that ID me?

503
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.519
Now? It's not id me anymore? Right now, it's either through Lexus

504
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:25.760
Nexus true ID or individuals were filing
a new claim have an option where they

505
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.480
can select to go to the United
States Postal Service, provide a barcode,

506
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.360
provide their information there, and the
US Postal Service will determine the validity of

507
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.920
their identity and see that information back
to US. Now, every claim also

508
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.159
runs through a scoring metric related to
whether they contain components similar to what we've

509
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:49.840
seen on fraud claims. So on
a lot of claims, some people may

510
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.159
have a very very low score and
so the minute they pass identity verification clears

511
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:58.760
everything off, they're good to go. These individuals who have program integrity holds,

512
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.480
it's because of the score that ends
up on their claim. And so,

513
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.679
can you give us an idea of
phil up some red flags? Oh,

514
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.519
I'm not going to give you all
those characteristics because otherwise I'm telling you,

515
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.800
Oh, give me an example of
one, I get it. Yeah,

516
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.639
let's give you. Yeah, let's
give you a generic one that everyone

517
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.159
would say, Well, that one
makes sense, right, and probably doesn't

518
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.159
isn't a marker on most of your
people are calling? So if a social

519
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:28.920
Security number comes up as being to
a deceased individual, that's obviously a huge

520
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.079
mark right, I got it.
Yeah, so that one, And so

521
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:36.119
there'll be various other things or maybe
maybe where the addresses don't match up with

522
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:40.519
the names or something. Okay,
correct, Yeah, so those things will

523
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.199
trigger things. Okay, so what
do you do? Then? What does

524
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.519
she do? If Melissa asks a
question? Well, so Tom, now

525
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.519
what do I do? I mean? Do I have to depend on them?

526
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:54.000
Is there anything I can do to
help? Yeah. We will usually

527
00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:00.320
reach out to them and provide them
information to upload some additional documentation. Usually

528
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.599
they will receive a program integrity questionnaire
within my UI plus that asked them to

529
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.559
upload a bunch of information. So
some people think this is ridiculous. I've

530
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:13.639
gone to identity verification. Now this
is also asking me to provide those documents.

531
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.079
Breath it for that again, is
to verify all of that information and

532
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.719
try to ensure that you are who
you say you are, thank you.

533
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.519
Fortunately, fraud continues to be a
huge, huge impact on this program,

534
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:27.280
not just in this state, but
in all states. You know what,

535
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:32.639
Phil, I had to upload stuff
for Google for claiming my business years ago.

536
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.320
I mean, I mean, it's
crazy. Everybody wants some kind of

537
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:44.000
clarification or proof. So okay,
now if you hold here, hold on,

538
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.159
I want to take Hugh because he's
calling it. Hugh, what was

539
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.760
your And I know you have limited
time, Phil, so I'm gonna you

540
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.280
know, whenever you need to go. But Hugh, what is your question?

541
00:39:52.400 --> 00:40:00.320
So this for Phil obviously, yes, when you are unemployed for long

542
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.199
time and you can apply for an
application to go into additional training, I

543
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:14.880
think it's called the EKPL. What
I've been finding working with the advisor over

544
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:20.960
an unappointment is that a Raboa County
will not honor the programs for additional training

545
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:27.199
under real estate, even though the
state list that training has approved by a

546
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.840
Ramboat County over and over and over
again. And it's been a point of

547
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.719
contention for me, and I don't
know how you would resolve it other than

548
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:40.639
taking those approved training programs off your
website. And it hasn't been done yet.

549
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.840
Sure, question before you went on, well, before you answer the

550
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:52.199
unemployment Well, before you answer,
could you explain what he's talking about to

551
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.719
begin with? And then what is
this extra training program? Yeah, well

552
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.039
it depends there. There's certain individuals
where terminly the best course for reemployment for

553
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:07.639
them would actually be the se create
re education or retraining or new training in

554
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.280
a new occupation and field. And
so individuals who qualify that then are exempt

555
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:16.639
from the work search requirement while collecting
unemployment insurance because the training is considered to

556
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:22.880
be got it an attempt to reasonably
ensure their prompt reemployment god is suitable or

557
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:28.679
suitable employment. Again, I don't
necessarily handle that ETL component. That would

558
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.440
be a different division employment in training. So it doesn't mean I can't speak

559
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.119
with that director there so that they
can check in my Sure, But he's

560
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.320
saying, and Hugh, what I
hear you saying is that they have the

561
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:47.039
ETL program, but they do not
honor real estate courses as as being a

562
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:52.440
good way to do it right and
only a wrap out Home County, Okay,

563
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:57.960
through a wrap a hot Douglas works. Yeah. So ye. Under

564
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:04.840
your EGTL program website, it shows
that the training has been approved and that

565
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.400
you can select it, but Dapple
County doesn't honor it. Sure, Hugh

566
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:14.679
wyon't we have you do this?
Send an email or give your information to

567
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.119
the Tom Martino Show. They'll get
back with me. I can circle back

568
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.400
with the Director of Employment Training so
we can try to take a look at

569
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.079
what's going on, because it sounds
like more of an Employment Training Division issue

570
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.000
and maybe a UI division issue.
So so hang on you, We'll give

571
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.199
you UI division issues. Hang on
as as soon as you can get his

572
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.920
email ors have him send it to
fill or whatever. So, mister spazhar,

573
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:42.280
so we have a lot of frauds
still going on or it never stopped,

574
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:49.199
or what it never stops? On
average, between fourteen to eighteen percent

575
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.440
of all claims that are filed on
a weekly basis are marked as a high

576
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:58.119
likelihood for fraud. Oh my goodness, I will tell you currently right,

577
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.760
And these numbers went out through Channel
four the other day. We have about

578
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:07.599
forty seven nine eighty one active unemployment
insurance claims and there were one thousand,

579
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.639
two hundred and eight individuals with pending
program integory holes that needed to be reviewed

580
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.760
and asmunicated. Unfortunately, that does
add time to processing on an unemployment insurance

581
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:22.119
claim, which is frustrating for folks. But to give you an example,

582
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.119
Tom, the fraudsters come up with
new ways to do this all the time.

583
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.480
Recently, as a result of some
of this, and we use multiple

584
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:36.559
tools here for a very good reason, we had one seven hundred people pass

585
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:42.639
identity verification through the United States Postal
Service. However, every last one of

586
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.400
them was tied to fictitious employer schemes, in other words, creating fake employers

587
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:53.480
using stolen PII to load in fake
wages in an attempt to receive benefits without

588
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:59.239
ever paying. And that fraud that
we stopped could have resulted in up to

589
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.000
eight hundred million dollars in a loss
to the u I Trust Fund. So,

590
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:07.559
wow, we have multiple steps.
If we relied just on identity identity

591
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.960
verification, all of that money would
have gone out the door to those Wow.

592
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:16.199
So my next question is obvious,
are we punishing people who do this?

593
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:22.039
Well we can catch them. We
certainly are, and we've We've had

594
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.440
some that have gone through and been
prosecuted at this point in time, certainly

595
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:29.199
not as high of a level as
we would like. Part of the problem

596
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.519
is at a federal level. For
you to be able to prosecute somebody is

597
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.000
there had to be an actual taking. We had to experience an actual loss.

598
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.119
We focused on trying to prevent those
losses upfront to begin with, and

599
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.639
that's why you have the program integrity
holds. Well, thank you. Frustrating

600
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.599
the folks, though, where do
people call for quick answers or is there

601
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:52.760
no such thing in your department?
Yeah, no, we would. We

602
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:57.519
would have them contact if you have
a program integrity hold right, because we

603
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.039
have two different numbers to call,
but one is a vendor who is not

604
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:04.920
able to provide you much information or
assistance. But we would have you call

605
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:09.000
our direct number, which is at
three one eight nine thousand, number three

606
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:14.599
eight nine thousand, and that's three
h three three all three oh correct.

607
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.880
And now again realize that not every
call center individual is going to be able

608
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.400
to tell you exactly why there's a
PI hold or how long it will take

609
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:27.239
to resolve reason for that. Unfortunately, is we keep that really locked down

610
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.840
because unfortunately the fraudsters also engage in
social engineering on the phone to try to

611
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:35.760
find out our right. Right,
they're good right. As soon as we

612
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:39.000
make an adjustment they make another adjustment
and we have to make additional adjustment.

613
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:43.280
That's crazy, and I appreciate you
being there. Phil, thank you very

614
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.199
much for being on the show.
I know you got to run. And

615
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:51.039
that's the Unemployment Division director. This
guy is very good at what he does.

616
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.760
He's one of the public servants that
come on the show and help people

617
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:59.239
all the time. So that's good
to know. So the number where you

618
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.599
start is three three, one eight
nine thousand. Now here's what we're going

619
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:07.119
to do. Since we're sending an
email to fill with other guy's name on

620
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.360
it or Melissa's name on it too. If you have any concerns, he

621
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.639
has to run. But if you
want to talk about it, give us

622
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.400
a call. We'll take these two
and include them in the email, especially

623
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.320
if they're very specific things, not
just in general, like you know,

624
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.840
I think this should change or that
should change. But if you're having an

625
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.280
issue, we'll include that in our
email to fill. The director. Okay,

626
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.199
not many people can give you that
direct access, So what you do

627
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:36.760
is call us at three oh three, seven to one to three talk.

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634
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zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom
Martino here three three seven to one three

635
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.320
talk. Okay, Now, I'll
take this comment unemployment. Then I'm back

636
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:28.639
to Joel. Joel had his mom
had a house stolen. We haven't forgotten

637
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.400
about that, and we were consulting
our real estate attorney about that. So

638
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:39.760
Alan, what is your comment on
unemployment? Hold on, here you go,

639
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:45.800
there you go? Al, Okay, So when I heard him discussing,

640
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:52.239
you were asking him if it was
a id ME and and he said

641
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.760
no. It's odd because I really
believe I had to go look up my

642
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.800
password for id ME to get my
benefits. So I know they're still using

643
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:06.800
it for some reason. And I
think the most frustrating thing with unemployment is

644
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.960
you just have no idea where you're
you have no idea where your benefits are

645
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:13.159
at, whether they're going to be
accepted or not. I know, no

646
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:17.840
community. I know you're right,
So I was I was hoping that he

647
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:22.440
would speak to that, like how
do we how do they how do they

648
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.679
do a better job of of you
know, trying to let people know,

649
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.679
you know, if they're going to
be qualified or not. Well, that

650
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.760
has always been an age old problem. People applying then they're left out in

651
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.440
the cold. They don't know have
any idea what's going on, and some

652
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:45.559
people just want to be told they
can't qualify and why as opposed to just

653
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:50.039
not knowing anything that it is,
right, I know it's a good question.

654
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.880
I mean, it really is.
And that's something that we will definitely

655
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:57.480
ask him next time we have him
on, Like is there a way it

656
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.800
wouldn't it be nice though? Like
if they could log on and just see

657
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:06.840
the status of their claim. Great, well mine says processing, that's okay,

658
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.119
So there is a way to get
it in there. I mean,

659
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:15.199
you just tell but it doesn't tell
you any details like timeline or you know,

660
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:16.760
how long have you been waiting?
Alan, how long have you been

661
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:25.559
waiting? I've only been waiting this
time a few weeks. But I and

662
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.280
I also found a problem with their
website. I had everything ready to submit,

663
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.440
tried to submit it, and it
kept giving me an error, and

664
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.920
I finally had to call their office
and say, Okay, what's going on?

665
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.719
And she said, I can't even
deal with your old the claim that

666
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:44.079
you put in. I have to
redo everything. So I spent an hour

667
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.519
and a half on the phone with
their going. You know that just frost

668
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:52.119
me too when that happens, when
when you take time to go through something

669
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:57.199
and then all of a sudden it's
it won't let you submit and you can't

670
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.840
go back and saving Oh god,
what a pain I feel for you.

671
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.000
There. We'll mention to Phil though
about updates and see what he says about

672
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:10.199
that. Three oh three seven one
three talk seven one three two five five

673
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.840
Joel, I'm back with you.
Listen, Joel. Okay, so I

674
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.039
talked to my real estate attorney.
Let me just get some notes here.

675
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:23.719
Okay, if this happened and your
mom, here's the problem. Your mom

676
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:30.719
discovered it way back in twenty sixteen. Yes, because we couldn't get no.

677
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:36.920
Uh, it doesn't get Joel.
The law says date of discovery forward

678
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:42.719
is the statute limitations. She's beyond
any statute limitations for fraud crime anything.

679
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.679
I understand what you're saying. I
understand. I don't say I agree with

680
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.800
it. I understand you're saying you
couldn't get anything done. That was in

681
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.880
twenty sixteen. Then you had seventeen
until nineteen, twenty, twenty one,

682
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.639
twenty two, twenty three, twenty
four. I mean, we're looking look

683
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.920
how many years we're looking at,
man. So what I'm saying is there

684
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:08.679
is absolutely nothing that can be done
right now. Nothing. There's nothing.

685
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:15.239
But but here's the deal. I
mean, the law doesn't say if you

686
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.239
tried to get something done and you
couldn't, I mean, what does that

687
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.159
mean? And I'm going to tell
you here's the biggest problem why LifeLock.

688
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:29.239
Title lock wouldn't have worked. Here's
what title lock is. People say,

689
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.440
oh, make sure you know you
register your home and your title, so

690
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.960
when any changes occur on the title
or someone tries to record something, you're

691
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:45.039
immediately notified. Okay. It doesn't
stop them from recording anything, zero nothing,

692
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:51.639
It just notifies you. Okay,
Well, your mom was notified because

693
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:57.000
the county notifies her if she's the
owner. Well, yeah, I'll guarantee

694
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:01.840
you. I'm gonna say, Joe, I guarantee she was notified sometime back

695
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.440
when this happened that something was filed
on that address. It's an impossibility for

696
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:13.039
it to happen without it being sent
to the mail to the address of record.

697
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:17.400
If the address of record was the
rental itself, they could have filed

698
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:22.239
it and then retrieved it from there
before your mom could see it, or

699
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.719
they could have stolen it out of
her mailbox. But what I'm saying is,

700
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.400
Joel, listen, how old your
mom right now? By the way,

701
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.039
how old is she? Fifty six? Oh? Only fifty six?

702
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:36.039
Okay. I was going to say, I have a quick claim detail right

703
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.679
here with the signatures that don't manage
my mom's and my uncles because my uncle's

704
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:43.920
a cold signer. I believe you, and I totally believe you. I

705
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:45.440
believe it, by the way,
just so it helps, I believe it

706
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:52.840
was stolen. They got away with
it. This morning, I contacted FBI.

707
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.079
I wrote a rapport. They gave
me a report number, and I

708
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.440
contact And what did the FBI tell
you? What did they tell you?

709
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:00.480
You're going to give it they're going
to give me a call so they could

710
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:05.079
set up a meeting so they could
speak with my mom. I'm going to

711
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.320
tell you if they do the report. If they do that, it'll be

712
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:13.159
a miracle because it's way beyond the
statute of limitations. However, however,

713
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:20.000
I think this they may want to
know just in case it's let me tell

714
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.880
you why they want to know,
even with crime that has past the statute

715
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:30.760
of limitations. They want to know
because they might have other complaints now about

716
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:37.079
title stealing. And what they'll do
is they'll try to meet that with others

717
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:39.480
and they might say, wait a
minute, we're going to link this.

718
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.920
These guys have been doing this since
two thousand and sixteen. So the reason

719
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:50.400
that the reason they do it when
they investigate just I want to be very

720
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.880
clear on this. If the same
people were doing it over and over and

721
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:55.360
over, and the FBI says,
sure, we'll meet with you, and

722
00:53:55.400 --> 00:54:00.280
they find out that the people today
who are being ripped off or who were

723
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:05.400
ripped off a couple of years ago, are the same people perpetrating the fraud

724
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.480
that did it against your mom.
It's not going to help your mother.

725
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.679
I'm telling you the truth. It's
not nothing is going to help her now,

726
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:20.400
it's too late. I don't know
of any law anywhere that gives the

727
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:24.000
excuse we couldn't get anything done because
she could have. They just did the

728
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:29.119
same thing to another olderly couple and
the son found out, and he's an

729
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.360
attorney here in Colorado. I don't
know the names. I don't know who

730
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.320
they are, but it just happened, right, So it's not beyond the

731
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.800
The same people did it. Yeah, the same people did it to another

732
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:43.719
olderly couple, but they got caught
good. So what are they doing about

733
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.079
it? Are there? Are they
going to arrest these people? I don't

734
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:51.519
know that. I'm trying to figure
out who these people are. Why do

735
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:55.920
you think that will help your mom
that were Why do you think that because

736
00:54:57.159 --> 00:54:59.800
there's a history of them doing that, and they did it to my mom

737
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:08.559
and know that we have a couple
of years ago. Why Joe, listen,

738
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:15.280
man, just listen to what I'm
saying. It doesn't matter if you

739
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:23.960
prove it, it doesn't matter if
they're still doing it. It doesn't matter.

740
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:31.559
There is a statute of limitations,
and the old crimes drop off as

741
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:37.239
the nude crimes come on. I
think these people are scumbags, and I

742
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:43.920
think they should suffer and be and
be punished. But unfortunately it's not going

743
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:47.400
to help your mother. Now by
all means, do me a favor,

744
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:55.639
cooperate and do yourself. Still cooperate
because maybe by some strange thing, they

745
00:55:55.679 --> 00:56:00.719
would actually And by the way,
this has been done before, where the

746
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:07.800
legislature finds so much fraud and corruption
they change the law. They literally change

747
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:13.679
the law to open up special cases, like they did against Trump in New

748
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:17.559
York. They opened up the law
and did away. They absolutely did away

749
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:22.840
with the statute limitations for a one
year period so people could go after Trump.

750
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:29.119
Okay, so maybe maybe if people
want to go after these guys bad

751
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:35.280
enough and they can actually alter the
law, that is a possibility. Do

752
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.679
me a favor, though, I
need to know about this most current case,

753
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.239
because we'll go after these basterds.
Who knows, who knows, maybe

754
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.239
we can get them just to do
it, just to try to you know,

755
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:47.880
by the way, it's not unheard
of. Just you know, Joel,

756
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:52.599
here's another thing that could happen.
Let's say they nail them on a

757
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.320
bunch of fraud that happened recently.
Fraud that could be prosecuted. Let's say

758
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.559
that happens, right, and then
let's say as part of a plea deal.

759
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:04.360
You know what that is, right, they say to them, Look,

760
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.840
we won't send you to jail.
You pay a fine. They may

761
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:14.119
be able to, as part of
a plea deal, say you have to

762
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:19.280
give back Joel's mom's house to her. They could do that, even though

763
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:23.840
they can't prosecute them. As part
of a plea deal, they could ask

764
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:30.119
them to turn that house back over
to your mom as a good will gesture.

765
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:37.039
So that's a possibility. So definitely, definitely, definitely cooperate with these

766
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:42.280
people. Okay, Now, by
the way, Hugh, you real quick,

767
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.360
you have a good will complaint?
What is it? Well, it's

768
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:51.039
not really a complaint. You know, corporations can do whatever they want to

769
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:55.960
run their businesses. We were over
at the Claring Line Broadway store and want

770
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.079
to buy some clothes, Yeah,
and found that at the uh dress and

771
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:08.800
boot rooms were closed. Why so
they their complaint was that people didn't treat

772
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.960
their resting rooms right. Oh they
were, they were This is goodwill,

773
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.559
right, yeah, good will?
They were shooting up, they're snorting in

774
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:22.079
them whatever. Whatever, they were
doing. But the the whole thing that

775
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.719
felt sketchy to me was that,
yeah, they said, yeah, you

776
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:29.920
know, you can buy these clothes
if you know, if you think you

777
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.239
want them, take them home,
tryme on. And no, you know

778
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:36.760
other stores are doing it too,
not just Goodwill there. In fact,

779
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.519
this is a trend they don't want
to show. Now here's the deal.

780
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:44.840
They have a Crossco and Sam's Club
does the same thing. We do it

781
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.400
all the time. We buy the
clothes, we take them home. Differences

782
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:52.239
Uh uh is that they tell,
you know, SAMs costco, you bring

783
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:57.079
them back, you get your money
back. Uh? Good Will, Well

784
00:58:57.159 --> 00:58:59.920
no, we don't give you your
money back. We just give you.

785
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.880
But they see, here's what I'm
saying. They have a right to They

786
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:07.079
have a right to make their own
policy. Okay, then consumers have a

787
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.239
right to say we're not dealing with
you. If you don't have fitting rooms,

788
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:13.119
we're not going to shop here,
or if you don't give full refunds,

789
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:15.440
we're not going to shop here.
Everyone has a right to do business

790
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:20.000
the way they want. So long
as it's not illegal, they can do

791
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.960
it. They can make any kind
of ridiculous Listen, there was another one

792
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:28.639
Burlington coat Factory. I don't know
if they're even still around, but these

793
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.679
dinosaurs would say, no matter what
you buy, no matter what's wrong with

794
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:37.400
the purchase, there is an absolutely
no refund. What we will do is

795
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:42.480
give you store credit only. Well, listen to how weird that gets.

796
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:47.679
One time, this person bought a
briefcase and it was defective. Everyone agreed

797
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:52.920
it was defective. They brought it
back. It was like one hundred dollars

798
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:58.440
or seventy eight nine or whatever.
They did not handle these briefcases anymore.

799
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:04.519
There was no possibility she could get
any briefcase at all ever from Burlington cofactory.

800
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.679
But what they said to her was, you still have to take a

801
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.559
sore credit. So think of how
ridiculous that is. They're forcing you to

802
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:21.760
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all three nine two zero sixteen twenty
two. Hi Tom Martino here three all

809
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:58.440
three seven one three talk seven one
three A two five five Kate, what's

810
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.119
going on with you? Kate?
Welcome to the show. What's happening?

811
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:06.320
Hey, So, a couple of
years ago, my husband got one of

812
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:13.239
those visa cards with unemployed was attached
to unemployment benefits. Yeah, that he

813
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.199
never applied for. He worked the
whole time. And I don't remember who

814
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:22.159
we contacted, but they said take
the card back to the bank, so

815
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.400
it was US bank. We took
the card back, never heard anything else

816
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:30.599
about it. This year we got
a notice from the IRS saying we owe

817
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:37.079
over two thousand dollars for back taxes
on that unemployment that he never collected on.

818
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:42.599
And yeah, yeah, I understand. And what you have to simply

819
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:46.440
tell them is you never got the
money ever, and they can't. I

820
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:50.800
mean, really, what did you
get a ten ninety nine on that from

821
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:57.159
unemployment? Uh? Huh? What
did you do? Though? When we

822
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.719
took it, he took it back
to his employer said, hey, you

823
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:04.760
know this never happened. They know
it never happened, and they they took

824
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:08.840
the notice, so we don't even
have it anymore. His employer has it.

825
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:13.119
I don't know what they've done with
it. So you just got this

826
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.639
notice this year. Let's get Larson
on. Hold on, I want to

827
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:22.119
get our experts at Larson Tax Relief. These are people that help you fight

828
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:24.679
the irs all the time. Let's
see what they say to do. Hold

829
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.360
on, all right, we'll get
all we'll try to get an answer for

830
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:31.920
you. Three oh three seven one
three talk seven one three A two five

831
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:40.840
five. Hey, do you know
that one in three hiring managers listen to

832
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:47.599
this and this is this is a
real survey done among major companies and the

833
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:54.639
HR people. One in three say
they know they're asking illegal questions, but

834
01:02:54.719 --> 01:03:01.119
they ask them anyway now not to
be They say they're not doing it because

835
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:07.400
they want to discriminate illegally. They're
doing it because they think it's important.

836
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:14.119
Do you know what some of the
illegal questions are? Weird? Okay,

837
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:21.679
you can ask about people's age.
Now. Come on, if I go

838
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:25.920
to apply for a job now,
I mean, I might not look like

839
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.079
I'm gonna be keeling off, but
I certainly don't look like a young chicken.

840
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:36.920
I'm sure that they're wondering, like, how long is this guy gonna

841
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:39.199
work? If we're gonna train him? Or we wasting money? And you

842
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:44.960
start getting that feeling after a while, whatdn't you want to know? I

843
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:49.000
mean, truly, when you think
about it, it's not because you don't

844
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:52.679
like them or don't want them.
But then again, that is discrimination,

845
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:58.440
isn't it If you say, wait
a minute, if this person is gonna

846
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.400
work for just a few years,
why do I put all this money into

847
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.280
them with training? Maybe that's one
of the things. Or what about this

848
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:08.480
young women? You know what they
ask? Are you married? You're not

849
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.719
supposed to. Why do they ask
that? We all know why they asked

850
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:16.079
that? Are you thinking about having
kids? Next question? You can't ask

851
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:24.159
that, but yet think about it. Are they doing it to be hateful

852
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:28.719
or are they doing it because damn
it, it's practical. Now this woman's

853
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:30.639
going to come to work for us, have a kid, and that's assuming

854
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.320
you can't go to work. I
mean, I don't know, but you

855
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:44.599
can't ask that. You cannot ask
anything at all about health or physical abilities

856
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.199
at all. So if you have
a physically taxing job, Okay, you

857
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:54.079
do, Jackson, you have a
physically okay, you guys do k guard

858
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:59.679
on the houses right, gutters coverings? Okay, heat tastes whatever. Okay.

859
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:02.559
Don't you want to know if someone
can climb a ladder? No?

860
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:06.719
Seriously, you can't ask. If
you ask, how do you feel about

861
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:13.719
being on ladders and uh working above
the ground high? If you did that,

862
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.239
get your ass to jail. You
can't ask that. Wow, then

863
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:19.159
I'm going to jail. No,
I'm serious, This is what I mean.

864
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:23.920
You do we ask are you comfortable
on a second story ladder? Now?

865
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:27.079
I'm not sure if that would be
wrong or I guess you can't ask,

866
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.760
can you? We asked are you
comfortable? Because that might be that

867
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.480
might be different. I don't know. But this is weird stuff, isn't

868
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:43.000
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874
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three all three nine two zero sixteen
twenty two. Hi Tom Marchino, your

875
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:19.280
troubleshooter three all three seven one three
Tom three all three seven one three eight

876
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:28.519
two five five. So Kate's husband
got a debit card for unemployment benefits,

877
01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:33.360
but he had never applied for it. They sent it back and now they're

878
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:41.440
getting taxed for it. So how
much did they claim you got? I

879
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:46.559
don't remember, but the tax bills
over two thousand dollars go okay, Well

880
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:50.679
we could do the math on that
one. So two thousand would be probably

881
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:56.840
twenty eight percent. Maybe they're saying
maybe twenty five percent. So you can

882
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:03.800
just figure that out. And so
let's let's talk about this. You can

883
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:08.400
do a few things. First,
we couldn't get Larson on, but I

884
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:13.079
know we were able to call.
And I'm going to tell you that you

885
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:17.440
don't you don't pay it. If
there's a ten ninety nine, if you

886
01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:21.239
received it ten ninety nine, you
should have filed it with an explanation.

887
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:28.199
Now for is this for tax year
twenty twenty three. I think it was

888
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:30.960
twenty two. It wasn't last.
Are you being penalized? Are you being

889
01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.599
penalized for it? Yeah? Yeah, they added interest on it, so

890
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:41.800
the three grand represents the interest no, uh huh, or the two grand

891
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:45.239
or whatever. Yeah. Yeah,
So okay, here's the deal. You

892
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:50.440
can you find the ten ninety nine. He gave it to his employer,

893
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:54.840
so I'm sure I hope that,
well, there's a copy of it somewhere.

894
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:58.880
What you need to do is just
file an explanation and say we're not

895
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:02.480
paying it. We never received it. And and if they you just never

896
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:05.840
received it. It was put on
a debit card that was immediately returned to

897
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:10.519
the bank. And then you just
do that. I mean really, that's

898
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:15.679
all you can do. And and
the other thing you can do is pay

899
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:19.159
it and then go to the back
door and get it back. But if

900
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:24.000
you don't pay it because you didn't
get the money, and then what you

901
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:29.079
need to do is figure out with
unemployment. Were go with a sure thing

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905
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906
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customer when you choose Frank durand the
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907
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gonna help coming Man six is the
Troubleshooter Show. Now Tom Martino, Hi,

910
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:29.119
Tom Martino Here three O three seven
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912
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:38.479
you any way we can. And
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913
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:42.239
your problems, your questions or complaints
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914
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.880
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Alberta wants to talk about capital gains, capital gains or profits or income.

925
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:35.760
Well, income actually is not regular
incomes, non classified as capital gains.

926
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:40.359
Capital gains is a profit you make. And what is your question?

927
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:44.159
Albert Hi, Tom, how are
you? I'm doing good man? What's

928
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:46.720
going on with you? Thank you
for your helping. You got me many

929
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:51.000
times in the past. I appreciate
that. So my parents own a property

930
01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:58.159
in Europe, and you know they're
in the late they're close to eighty years

931
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.680
old, seventy eight, seventy nine
years old, and they're thinking about selling

932
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:05.720
this property that they own. But
once they wire the money, if they

933
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:10.720
decide to put it on the market, well there'll be capital gains on that

934
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:14.239
property. Even though it's in Europe. Well, here's how it works,

935
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:17.319
because I've done a lot of securities
and stuff around the world, and I

936
01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:23.520
can tell you how that works.
Usually, unless laws have changed, what

937
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:26.520
you do is you have a basis. Right, They've kept track of their

938
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:30.079
basis. Is that right, that's
correct, They've bone it for forty years,

939
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:33.720
okay, fifty years Okay, So
now they have a basis. Then

940
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:38.840
they're going to have a sale price, and in the jurisdiction where it sells,

941
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:44.279
there's going to be taxes paid to
whatever jurisdiction there is. Okay,

942
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.119
So whatever the jurisdiction is, they're
going to pay taxes. So where is

943
01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:53.680
it in Europe? It's in Italy, Okay, so they're going to pay

944
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:58.520
Italian it's pretty hefty. They're going
to pay some gains in Italy. It's

945
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:03.159
long term capital gains. And then
what will happen is and where where in

946
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:09.319
Italy is it? It's right between
Roman Naples and d Adrias. Okay,

947
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:13.279
so they're gonna they're gonna have I
don't think they're gonna have any local capital

948
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:18.119
gains. They they might have some
sales fees, but whatever they pay in

949
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:25.960
taxes, they as American citizens,
they're going to get a credit for but

950
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:30.640
they're gonna have to pay tax on
whatever is not credited. Like if we

951
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:32.800
have more I don't know. I
think we if we have more or less

952
01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:38.399
tax I don't know. But the
way it normally works is you pay whatever

953
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:42.079
tax you pay where you are,
and then you get a credit for that

954
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:48.279
here. Okay, So normally normally, like I said, the laws might

955
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:53.279
have changed since I although it hasn't
been that long for me. But if

956
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:58.680
you sell stuff in another country,
the count see the United States. Now

957
01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:01.920
other countries aren't as common, but
the United States kind of says if you

958
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.960
own something somewhere else and you pay
taxes there, you don't have to pay

959
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:13.039
them again here. Usually usually Yeah, but a good accountant, a good

960
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:15.000
account to let you know what is
their cap game going to be? Do

961
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:20.359
you know? Well, you know, the house was built fifty years ago

962
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:26.279
and I don't even know what the
So it's a residence. Yea, yeah,

963
01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:30.800
it's a residence yet villa. Do
they live there? No? No,

964
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:32.880
it's it's no nobody lives there there. They live here, but nobody

965
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:38.279
it's the house is closed, I
mean not necessarily closed. I have family

966
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:41.119
members that are in and out of
the house, but nobody lives in it.

967
01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:46.880
Okay, Well, I'll tell you
what. There are some different capital

968
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:54.760
gains for commercial or residential even if
it's not your personal property. But again,

969
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.560
you're gonna have to get someone over
there. I mean you must know

970
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.199
people over there, right, Yeah. I just got back from there a

971
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:08.199
few weeks ago. Actually, okay, well are you Italian? Yeah?

972
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:11.399
I am, yes, okay,
cool, Well listen, if you want

973
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:16.399
to deed that to me, i'd
gladly take it. Okay, So anyway,

974
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:21.319
why don't you take it from them? That's what she's asking. Well,

975
01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:24.840
that's what my parents want to do. She goes, why won't you

976
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:30.840
take a villa in Italy? What
are your nuts? I know we're thinking

977
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.039
about it. We're thinking about different
options here. So all right, here's

978
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:40.920
what it is here. I just
looked up the tax there, so they

979
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:46.119
don't have Well anyway, here here's
what it is. It is for a

980
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:51.520
profit less than fifteen thousand euros,
it's twenty three percent. It goes all

981
01:14:51.560 --> 01:15:00.600
the way up, holy crap,
to forty three percent. Wow, twenty

982
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.760
three Wait a minute, capital gain
is taxed through regular rates. They're not.

983
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:11.159
Yeah, that's what it says here, and I'm I'm looking at Professor

984
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:15.920
Bing, and Professor Bing is very
seldom wrong, by the way, way

985
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:24.079
better than Professor GPT chat GPT.
I fired him, But I like the

986
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:28.359
co pilot at Bing. No.
Seriously, in fact, you know,

987
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:32.319
if you go to AI and ask
questions like this, they're usually pretty good

988
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:38.600
at this. Don't ask them social
questions or you'll find out George Washington was

989
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:42.760
a black man somehow, but I
don't know. And but there's all kinds

990
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:45.119
of weird things. And oh,
they want to tell you the benefits never

991
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:48.279
mind of your kids, right right, Yeah, I don't want to,

992
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:54.520
but but seriously, they do have
good answers when it comes to facts like

993
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.760
this. So so what do you
do You have any idea what it will

994
01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:02.560
sell for? I'm since two hundred
thousand yeuros, And do you know how

995
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:09.760
much they bought it for? Well, that's it's kind of hard to explain

996
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:15.720
that because my dad's the one that
built the house fifty years ago. Oh

997
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:18.359
man, wait a minute, hold
on, hold on, hold on,

998
01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:23.720
hold on this is that now?
I'm just reading something else. There's a

999
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:30.880
separate taxation for real estate. Wait
wait, wait for real estate. When

1000
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:35.159
you're selling real certain property, there
taxes on the sales mandatory. But if

1001
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:38.760
you own the property, Oh no, they do have They do have some

1002
01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:43.279
lesser rates here. So if the
property is sold after five years, then

1003
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.840
then the capital gains tax goes down
quite a bit. So I was wrong.

1004
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:51.640
The other stuff I told you was
they they're talking about they talk about

1005
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:57.039
capital gain as everything. I mean, they're even talking about income. So

1006
01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.399
they're just talking about what they really
mean are income brackets. I read it

1007
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:05.960
wrong. And then the other tax
for sale of property is topped out at

1008
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:13.760
I believe twenty six percent, that's
what it's saying here. Yeah, so

1009
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:16.600
okay, now, so that would
be equivalent to here, you may end

1010
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:21.399
up not paying much tax here,
you know in the States, right,

1011
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:26.479
you may you may end up that
way because they are US citizens I'm assuming,

1012
01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:30.199
right they actually they're not US citizens. Well, then they may not

1013
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:36.600
pay it. Why would they pay
any tax? Well, they're they're you

1014
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:40.319
know, they've been here fifty years. But well I know, but do

1015
01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:43.880
they Okay, but if you don't
have any income, if you don't have

1016
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:48.479
income in the US, I mean
just because you're living here, if you're

1017
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:53.479
not a citizen, doesn't you're repired
now you're retired. Both of them are

1018
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:58.720
okay, but what the point is
The income is not here and they're not

1019
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.039
citizens, so I don't even know. I don't even know that you pay

1020
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:06.439
anything technically, I don't know.
So if you transfer the money over the

1021
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:11.439
rs it wouldn't raise a flag on
the RSA. Where does this money coming

1022
01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:15.279
from? Well, yeah, well
they're gonna want to it could raise a

1023
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:17.319
flag, but that doesn't matter.
You can still as long as you report

1024
01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:20.359
everything honestly. They'll let you know. They're not going to make up a

1025
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:26.279
tax just to get it right,
right, Okay, So if I were

1026
01:18:26.319 --> 01:18:30.840
you, I mean, obviously we
can get one of our tax authorities here.

1027
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:35.520
But it looks to me like I
don't think you're going to have much

1028
01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:41.279
burden in the I don't see how
if someone is living here, they're not

1029
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:45.039
a citizen, the income is not
derived here, they sell a property in

1030
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:49.479
Europe. I don't see why any
taxes do here at all. I mean,

1031
01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:53.960
I can't think of a scenario where
a tax is do here just because

1032
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:59.520
you're here. I mean, you
know, I could possibly see California passing

1033
01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:02.520
bills like that. They you know. I mean they have like like California

1034
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:06.159
pass the bill that if you and
then I know people don't have a lot

1035
01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:13.279
of sympathy for rich people. But
if you park your yacht or you're playing

1036
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:16.359
your jet on the ramp out there
at the airport or as a dock in

1037
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:21.880
California and it's there for more than
thirty days, they're going to make you

1038
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:28.439
pay a use tax as if it's
domiciled there. Now, think about that.

1039
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:33.680
Now. Obviously they want to catch
the cheets who are Californians buying them

1040
01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:39.560
in other states, right, But
truly, if you're on business and they

1041
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:42.319
keep track of it. Now,
I don't mean thirty days in a row,

1042
01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:45.960
I mean cumulatively, if they notice
that that jet was there for so

1043
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:50.199
many days, you're going to pay
an income or not income tax. It's

1044
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:56.720
a use tax or like a sales
tax, as if it was domiciled there.

1045
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.359
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1046
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:10.640
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01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:16.840
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1050
01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:30.800
think you're his only customer when you
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1051
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com to list your home with Remax
Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen

1052
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:46.039
twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here
three oh three seven one three. I

1053
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.399
want to go to Janet R.
And Janet work for Deputy Bow who's in

1054
01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:54.000
today? Uh, and she had
some roof shingle problem. Bow. Do

1055
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:56.960
you remember what this? Can you
sum this up real quick? Yes?

1056
01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:02.239
Hi? Janet? So, yeah, thanks for holding Yes. When did

1057
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:04.600
she call? By the way,
she called the I think you called in

1058
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:09.520
last Friday. Okay, got it, So let's see. So what happened?

1059
01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:20.199
So Janet emailed us her contract from
ISP Specialty Products Integrated Successful Projects.

1060
01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:26.760
She had that one. Yeah,
that one that bugged me. And I

1061
01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:30.960
do have a question for you,
Janet. You said that you wanted or

1062
01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:36.520
you think you were supposed to get
these ir Hal impact shingles. No,

1063
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:43.119
no, when when it was taking
so long for them to get started on

1064
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:47.079
the project. He told me that
that's what the problem was, but it's

1065
01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:51.680
more than just the shingles. Here's
what it was. It was you said

1066
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:57.800
that September sixth, The initial estimate
was eighteen grand, and then they put

1067
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.760
in they put in supplementals for forty
thousand, so it more than doubled.

1068
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.880
And here's what Jay said, one
of our experts, No, Mark,

1069
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:11.520
I'm sorry, Ed Jenison Genesis one
Marca Genesis said, Man, the roof

1070
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:17.359
was done okay, but they exaggerated, sadly, sadly, sadly when it

1071
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:23.319
came to the supplementals, Like one
part of the house should have been painted

1072
01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:27.680
for fifteen hundred bucks, they charged
over five grand, and on and on

1073
01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:31.680
and on. Now, I want
to make this clear it was paid for

1074
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:38.800
by your insurance. I'm not sure
why you're complaining, except I'm with you

1075
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:42.039
on not wanting them to get away
with it. But Bo, did you

1076
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:46.279
ask them specifically about why they overcharged
so much on their supplements. Well,

1077
01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:51.840
I didn't really understand what the supplements
were about. Mark was going to address

1078
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:56.960
that issue. But but Janet does
happen some of them, He didn't even

1079
01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.359
do some of the minutes withholding all
the money. Right now, Jane's in

1080
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:04.600
the driver. Janet's in the driver's
seat because if we have all the money,

1081
01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:10.520
Okay. So yes, by the
way, there were some skylights they

1082
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.079
charged for doing or events. They
charged for doing three three new ones,

1083
01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:17.399
and they used three. They used
two of the old ones and didn't even

1084
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.920
do a third one. So that
alone, what I would do is go

1085
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:24.640
through it. But you are going
to owe them something, you know that,

1086
01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:29.479
right? Yeah, I do understand
that, Hey, Tom, but

1087
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:33.079
I haven't paid the opinion. But
the work that they've done is I've been

1088
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:36.840
doing this in September is now April. Well, Mark at Genesis says,

1089
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:41.119
there's nothing wrong with your roof.
You should pay for. My understanding was

1090
01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:45.159
she was expecting a higher class shingle. But on the contract, what's on

1091
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:47.520
a roof is what's on the contract. Mark said at Genesis, Now he's

1092
01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:51.960
an independent guy looking at this,
said that roof was fine and should be

1093
01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:57.159
paid for. Yeah, and the
shingles that are on the contract match the

1094
01:23:57.239 --> 01:24:00.319
contract, match the contract. Right
she thought she was getting. She's got

1095
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.239
to pay for the roof. Okay, whatever the roofbit, she got to

1096
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:08.199
pay. Now. As far as
the supplements, what Mark said was there

1097
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:14.000
were some that were overcharged and some
that were not done. The overcharging part,

1098
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:18.840
unfortunately your insurance agreed to. But
I think the only thing you can

1099
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:27.640
withhold payment for is stuff that was
not done. And that's it, Janet.

1100
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:31.920
I don't know what else you wanted
to hear. Well, some of

1101
01:24:31.960 --> 01:24:35.640
the work that they've done is wrong. Okay, give me one. Give

1102
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:41.279
me one thing that give me one
thing that was done wrong. Okay,

1103
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:45.880
around my bedroom window they put like
a border. No, no, that's

1104
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:47.800
right, that's right. Mark said
that too. You're right, you're right

1105
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:51.159
that has to be redone. That
has to be redone. But what I'm

1106
01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:56.000
getting at is this the majority of
the money you're gonna owe. Do you

1107
01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:59.399
understand that? See, I don't
want to give you the wrong impression that

1108
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:01.479
you're gonna get to keep a bunch
of money. You're not. No,

1109
01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:05.720
No, that's not it. I
only want what is fair. And all

1110
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:12.359
this extra work was not needed or
asked for. That doesn't matter, Janet.

1111
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:15.079
Your insurance paid for it because they
thought you needed it. Now,

1112
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:18.800
if they didn't do it, you
shouldn't pay for it. But you're not

1113
01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:23.119
going to get to keep the money
because you disagree that you needed it.

1114
01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:27.880
Your insurance company had the opportunity to
and by the way, have the authority

1115
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:31.399
to not you. If your insurance
company says you needed it and agreed with

1116
01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:38.720
the contractor, then you needed it. The disagreement I have with integrating successful

1117
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:44.319
projects roofing and construction are the things
they didn't do right or the things they

1118
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:48.239
didn't do at all. So the
things you have to redo or the things

1119
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:54.760
you have to do because they did
not do you should retain. Everything else

1120
01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:59.199
should be paid to them, and
you may have to hire someone to speck

1121
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:02.359
it out for you. But you
know you're going to owe eighteen grand for

1122
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:06.279
the roof because you agreed to it, right, absolutely, did you pay?

1123
01:26:06.439 --> 01:26:10.439
Did you pay them the eighteen grand? I have not paid them.

1124
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:13.039
I haven't even heard from them in
over a month. Yeah, well,

1125
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:16.279
here's the deal, Janet, here's
at some point, at some point I

1126
01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:21.680
depart from the consumer when they won't
because these people, I don't like them.

1127
01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:25.079
I don't like what they did,
I don't like the overcharging. I

1128
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:30.239
don't like any of it. But
I also don't like withholding every penny either,

1129
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:34.239
because that's not reasonable. So I
I am not withholding anything though,

1130
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:39.079
Tom, I have not I we
haven't asked for ding, Janet. They

1131
01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:42.800
don't have to ask you owe,
Okay, it's a matter of perspective.

1132
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.600
You owe, they did the work, You owe the money. Okay,

1133
01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:49.600
so you owe some of the money. I agree with you again. The

1134
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:54.520
stuff they didn't do or the stuff
that has to be redone. I'm not

1135
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:58.199
going to discuss whether or not you
paid too much for the roof, or

1136
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.199
you paid too much for the painting, or you didn't think you needed this

1137
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:03.920
or you didn't think you needed that. None of that comes into consideration with

1138
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:09.680
me. The only thing I'm concerned
about is stuff they did not do or

1139
01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:14.640
stuff they did not do properly.
Those are what you should be you should

1140
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:16.760
retain for. That's what you need
to pretain. I'm not going to say

1141
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:21.800
it anymore, but that's there's nothing
else we can do. And I just

1142
01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:25.800
want to say something. And you
know, I'm not going to direct this

1143
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:30.119
at Janet, but I'm going to
direct it towards callers like Janet. I

1144
01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:35.319
can't tell you how many times I
have consumers who find that a contractor did

1145
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:42.439
something wrong and then they use it
as an excuse not to pay because they

1146
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:45.840
want to keep the money, or
they want to pay a ridiculous amount.

1147
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:54.800
I've had people who had contractors do
great work except for ten percent of it,

1148
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:59.520
but they want to settle on half. I'll pay you half the bill.

1149
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:03.760
I said, they only did ten
percent wrong. It's a way because

1150
01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:11.159
and here's why, when insurance pays
the consumer directly. Now, I don't

1151
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:15.119
think they should pay the business directly
either, by the way, but they

1152
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:20.000
shouldn't pay the consumer directly either.
There should be someone in charge because when

1153
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:24.720
a consumer gets money in their pocket
and they put it in their bank,

1154
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:30.279
it often becomes a pickup truck,
or it becomes a boat, and it

1155
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:35.159
doesn't become let's fix the house,
or if the money is in their account

1156
01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:41.600
and then the house is fixed,
all of a sudden, they look for

1157
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:48.479
excuses not to pay. Now.
I know there are hundreds of contractors out

1158
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:53.119
there nodding their heads yet saying you
got it, man, you got it.

1159
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:59.680
But at the same time, the
other thing happened where contractors exaggerated or

1160
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.359
didn't do all of the work.
There's a balance here, folks. There's

1161
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:11.800
a right and there's a wrong.
It should be self evident. Go with

1162
01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:15.920
a sure thing. Denver's best roofer
Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay

1163
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:21.720
a cent until you're content. Time
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1164
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:28.319
obligation. Comparison call Compass Insurance paying
too much your coverage at dozens of insurance

1165
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:30.439
companies find out now three oh three, seven to seven to one help.

1166
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:34.399
You'll think you're his only customer when
you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

1167
01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:39.960
dot com to list your home with
Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

1168
01:29:40.039 --> 01:29:50.600
sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino
near three oh three seven one three talks

1169
01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:55.239
seven one three eight two five five. Mark's going to question on a reverse

1170
01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:58.439
mortgage. Hello Mark here on the
Tom Martino Show. What's going on?

1171
01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:03.319
Man? Let me get joke new
too? Yes, sir? Okay,

1172
01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:13.279
Hey, I'm yeah. Yes?
Are you there? Mark? Oh my

1173
01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:15.920
yeah, I'm here. Okay,
bro, I got you. Go ahead.

1174
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:17.840
Sorry, I'm in a bad spot. Oh I'm sorry. Now I

1175
01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:23.279
can hear you, fine though,
go ahead. So I'm fifty seven and

1176
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:26.479
I just went through a divorce.
I'm living on about two and a half

1177
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:30.920
acres in my camper, and I'm
playing I'm building the house. This area

1178
01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:35.399
is kind of mixed with nice homes
and really bad homes. So I don't

1179
01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:42.000
want to overbuild. And I'm wondering
is there an Oh you are in a

1180
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:45.399
bad area, but I want to
hear. Okay, this is really important

1181
01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:50.600
that you we get this information.
So now where what kind of how much

1182
01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:57.520
property did you say you had?
Are you so there? Mark dang for

1183
01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:01.039
two and a half acres? Okay? Now are there covenants? There?

1184
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:11.920
No, no covenants at all?
Okay, Now what is your question in

1185
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:19.520
about building? You want to build
a home? Well, I'm putting Tom.

1186
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:23.239
I wonder if he's asking, can
you get a reverse mortgage on a

1187
01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:27.800
home? Build? I wonder if
that's his question? Is that your question?

1188
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:31.239
Mark? Oh, I'm just I
don't want to overbuild this area,

1189
01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:34.560
right. It would be too hard
to just say, well, you absolutely

1190
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:41.600
shouldn't. You shouldn't, especially because
it only has it has no covenants.

1191
01:31:42.039 --> 01:31:45.239
So you're right, you should not
overbuild. Okay, keep going and I'll

1192
01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:49.800
pick up your words when I can. I'm sure it's about to get better.

1193
01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:55.520
So where do they how do they
qualify you? I mean, is

1194
01:31:55.560 --> 01:32:01.319
there a certain dollar amount that they
will not reverse mortgage? Oh? Oh

1195
01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:04.439
yeah, there's all kinds of limits, but those are way high. But

1196
01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:10.039
I wouldn't use a reverse loan to
build, but you you can't use one

1197
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:15.399
to build. You can use it
to buy a home, a new home,

1198
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:19.520
but you can't use it. You
can't get a construction loan. No

1199
01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:25.840
I can afford to have the home
built. Okay, all right here,

1200
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:30.079
Okay, you can get private products
of a million dollars, but you won't

1201
01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:34.039
need them. But the limit you
don't have to worry about. What you

1202
01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:40.319
have to worry about is loan to
value. So you're fifty seven. So

1203
01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:42.760
by the time you get this,
how old are you going to be?

1204
01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:46.159
Sixty two? Right? You have
to be you have to want to get

1205
01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:53.159
the mortgage will be sixty eight.
Okay, return all right, If you

1206
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:56.960
want to get the loan at sixty
eight, the most you'll probably get at

1207
01:32:56.960 --> 01:33:00.000
sixty eight. I should look at
these charts somewhere, but I think it's

1208
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:05.319
around forty forty to forty five percent. I'm sorry, I'm not getting my

1209
01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:13.640
point across very well. Let's say
I buy a manufactured home and put on

1210
01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:16.920
the property CAR get a reverse mortgage
on a manufactured home if it's put on

1211
01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:24.159
a property the proper way and it
has FHA or approval or HUT approval.

1212
01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:29.079
Yes not if it has wheels.
Okay, you got to do it.

1213
01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:34.119
So HUD or FHA would let loan
on it. Okay, it just needs

1214
01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:38.399
to be merged to a foundation.
It's got to be real. It's got

1215
01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:43.760
an FHA and HUD is the easiest
way to look at it. Okay,

1216
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:48.119
all right, but let's say so
let's say the project costs you one hundred

1217
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:57.119
grand and it appraises for one fifty. You're not going to get any more

1218
01:33:57.159 --> 01:34:00.039
than sixty grand or something. I'm
not doing the math on a calculator,

1219
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:04.319
but the most you're going to get
at sixty eight is maybe forty to forty

1220
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:12.760
five percent if that because the max
on a reverse loan is fifty percent if

1221
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:16.960
you're an old person. I believe
it's They might have changed it a little,

1222
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:23.640
but there's not. They don't let
you get seriously leveraged because they want

1223
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:29.560
to make sure they can accrue all
of that unpaid interest on that loan,

1224
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:32.800
which then compounds against it. And
they want to make sure you don't eat

1225
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:39.039
up your equity in your lifetime,
so they they not amortize it, but

1226
01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:44.520
they charge it according to excuse me. They limit the loan to value according

1227
01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:49.000
to your age. Okay, I
didn't want to overbuild the area because it'd

1228
01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:55.239
be a lot out of my pocket, but I didn't Also I wanted to

1229
01:34:55.279 --> 01:35:00.000
make sure I built enough to qualify
for a reverse mortgage. Well, yeah,

1230
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.159
you're gonna get You're gonna get a
reverse mortgage. They don't care how

1231
01:35:02.239 --> 01:35:08.039
much they I mean, yeah,
there's no I mean there might be a

1232
01:35:08.119 --> 01:35:13.119
downward limit, but I'd have no
idea what it would be. Okay,

1233
01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:19.680
So just look at it as you
know, as an ff sak. Yeah,

1234
01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:24.359
if you can get an fah loan, you can get a reverse loan.

1235
01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:28.840
And I'm looking up the table here
for LTV limits and let me think

1236
01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:34.600
I don't a loan value on a
reverse loan, Okay, range is okay,

1237
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:41.399
I'm wrong. Actually they're saying on
this table it goes from fifty percent

1238
01:35:41.479 --> 01:35:47.239
to a low, to sixty five
percent to a high. Okay, And

1239
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:55.800
the limit has been set at one
forty nine thousand. Oh there's way more

1240
01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:00.000
me anyway. Yeah, well that
would be that would be a limit of

1241
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:04.279
the appraisal. So the biggest loan
is going to be half of that or

1242
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:10.119
sixty five percent of that. So
I think you're going to be fine if

1243
01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:13.760
you want to do a reverse loan
like that. But remember, you know

1244
01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:18.159
there's give and take on all of
that, and if you can afford to

1245
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:25.039
build it and you're just looking for
money to live on, you might,

1246
01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:30.920
you know, you might want to
consider some creative things like taking the money

1247
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:35.359
from a reverse loan and buying an
annuity, a fixed indextinuity. Now,

1248
01:36:35.359 --> 01:36:44.079
that fixed indextinuity will guarantee you income
guarantee it, and the reverse loan will

1249
01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:48.960
guarantee you'll never lose your home ever. So think about this. You get

1250
01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:56.039
an annuity and you immediately annuitize it
for income, or you get it at

1251
01:36:56.079 --> 01:37:00.560
sixty two, get a lower amount
and annuitize it into ten years. Whatever

1252
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:04.840
the thing. You either annuitize it
immediately as sixty eight or seventy, or

1253
01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:09.960
you get it earlier and annuitize it
later and let it fester for several years.

1254
01:37:10.279 --> 01:37:14.199
Now, think about this. You're
not repaying that reverse loan ever.

1255
01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:17.640
Ever. Now you're not going to
have any equity to leave to anyone of

1256
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:21.520
any appreciable amount. Maybe you would, but it doesn't matter. You're not

1257
01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:27.279
going to have to worry about that
part of it. Now you have guaranteed

1258
01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:30.039
growth and income on a fixed indexinuity. Now, by the way, I'm

1259
01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:33.640
not telling you a fixed indextinuity is
the only investment there is in the world.

1260
01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:38.680
It's not. It's in fact,
you should never put all your money

1261
01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:42.840
in one of those. It's a
tool for income. It's a tool for

1262
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:47.720
growth, modest growth, and good
income. So now think about this.

1263
01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:54.119
Now you're going to take Social Security
and you're going to supplement it with the

1264
01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:59.520
annuity payment, and you don't have
to pay back that loan. Now,

1265
01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:01.399
if you took out a regular loan
on your home to do that, you'd

1266
01:38:01.439 --> 01:38:04.760
be insane. But you don't.
But with a reverse loan, if you're

1267
01:38:05.399 --> 01:38:11.520
if you're married to the idea and
comfortable with the idea, you're not going

1268
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:15.840
to care about your equity and you're
you can suck that equity out of there

1269
01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:21.720
and put it in a fixed indextinuity
and not have to pay back the equity

1270
01:38:21.760 --> 01:38:26.720
loan. Three oh three seven one
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1271
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1272
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:33.239
way, if you want to know
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1273
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and it's not just free. It's
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1274
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you stand in the market, with
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1282
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1285
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:46.920
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they come for your water heater, they

1286
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:50.800
service it, flush it twenty eight
bucks. If you need anything, they

1287
01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:54.520
credit you the twenty eighth. They
do the same thing for toilets, they

1288
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:58.640
do the same thing for sinks.
They any one stop, one item,

1289
01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:02.239
twenty eight bucks. That's it eight
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1290
01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:05.000
that's a pretty cool way doing business. Then they credit you if you need

1291
01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:11.079
any addition to repair three three seven
seven zero two seven seven six. We

1292
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:17.079
call it the risk free service fee. All right, now, let's talk

1293
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:24.439
to Cody. Cody, I was
just alluding to something like this with the

1294
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:28.520
roofing, where consumers don't want to
pay, but sometimes they have a good

1295
01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:31.840
reason not to pay. You're facing
this where you can't get a customer to

1296
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:38.479
pay. What's the situation with you? Yeah? So, and it's not

1297
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:44.000
just me, it's actually there's several
businesses that this one company has impacted.

1298
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:49.560
So. The Colorado Spartans are an
indoor arena football team up in Greeley.

1299
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:55.600
They play at the Bud Weser Events
Center, Blue Arena, Okay, and

1300
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:00.880
they have stayed since the beginning of
their season. They've been saying at various

1301
01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:06.680
hotels throughout Greeley and have done everything
they can to avoid paying them. So

1302
01:41:08.119 --> 01:41:12.039
they've stayed at I know for certain, they've stayed at the Woodspring Suite.

1303
01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:15.239
Wait a minute, do you mean
the team has stayed. Yes, that's

1304
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:20.560
correct, and then they they they
jump out on the bill. Correct,

1305
01:41:21.119 --> 01:41:26.479
What at Candlewood? Yeah, at
Candlewood. Sweet they owe tens of thousands

1306
01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:29.039
of dollars. Wait a minute.
What's the name of this Wait? This

1307
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:30.560
might be the first sports team I
have on the sleeves brigade. What's the

1308
01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:36.920
name of the the team Colorado Spartans, and I have the owner's name as

1309
01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:40.119
well. What are they? What
do they play? I'm sorry, I'm

1310
01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:44.560
so ignorant of these sports? What
is it? They're a brand new arena

1311
01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:46.399
football team this year. Oh that's
why I don't know. And that's schlock.

1312
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:53.399
Okay, so arena football? Does
anyone even watch that anymore? Arena

1313
01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:56.239
I didn't even know what was the
thing until I started hearing about this team,

1314
01:41:56.600 --> 01:41:59.439
Jackson, you watch arena football?
Car man? Do you no,

1315
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estate Man dot com to list your
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two zero sixteen twenty two. Ripped
News. You need advice, you don't

1322
01:42:40.680 --> 01:42:50.960
help reagious as the kid Shooter's gonna
help, come Dick. Is the Troubleshooter

1323
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:58.239
Show. No Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here three oh three,

1324
01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:02.159
seven one three talk three oh three
he's seven to one three eight two five

1325
01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:06.319
five Welcome. What's going on in
your life and how can we help you?

1326
01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:10.239
This is the Troubleshooter Show. We
have a guest today, K Guard

1327
01:43:10.279 --> 01:43:14.560
by the way, uh Kguard Rocky
Mountains dot com and he's from our referral

1328
01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:16.399
list. He's been with us for
years, Jackson. And they do the

1329
01:43:16.439 --> 01:43:19.760
new gutters that not new gut well
yeah, new gutters with the built in

1330
01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:25.479
coverings and they're really nice, really
wonderful gutters. We've never jeh, I

1331
01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:28.760
shouldn't say this because where's the knock
on wood thing? We've never had a

1332
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:31.359
complain about you no, honest,
su As, we never had a complaint

1333
01:43:31.359 --> 01:43:35.159
ever. Now that's gonna like now
people are gonna say, oh, yeah,

1334
01:43:35.640 --> 01:43:41.479
one time he came and did it
and spit his jaw on the lawn.

1335
01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:45.159
I'm just kidding. You don't chew. No. But in any case,

1336
01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:47.039
if you do get a complaint,
I don't even know what it would

1337
01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:50.079
be, because you clean up after
yourself and all that. Most roofers,

1338
01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:54.000
when we get a complain other than
ripoff, I'm talking about good roofers.

1339
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:57.399
The only complaint we might get with
a good roofer is maybe they didn't clean

1340
01:43:57.479 --> 01:44:00.960
up as much as they wanted him
to, because that's hard to keep property

1341
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:04.119
clean. But well, one thing
we do to try to work around that

1342
01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:08.319
is number one. Of course,
we have the magnetic rollers and all that

1343
01:44:08.319 --> 01:44:11.720
stuff. Yeah, but what we
try to do that's special to my company

1344
01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:14.800
is I'm not a lazy owner sitting
behind a desk. I will go and

1345
01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.600
visit every customer that wants to do
a walk around. And the first thing

1346
01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:20.800
that I do is make sure that
if it's not picked up, I'll pick

1347
01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:24.640
it up and I'll spend an hour. I don't care. I want to

1348
01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:27.920
make sure because at the end of
the day, that house is my business

1349
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:31.239
card. They to talk to their
neighbors and that's it. So I maintain

1350
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:33.840
referral list dot com. That's which
you're a member of. Great people.

1351
01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:40.199
And then I also had something I
started years ago called Sleeze Brigade dot com.

1352
01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:42.960
But this wasn't just for people who
are not on the referral list.

1353
01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:45.319
There are plenty of good people not
on the referral list, but these are

1354
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:48.680
for the worst of the worst of
the worst. If you go to Sleeze

1355
01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:56.760
Brigade dot com s L e A
Z please, some people try to put

1356
01:44:56.840 --> 01:45:00.560
the w anyway, Sleazbrigade dot com
and if you go there, you'll find

1357
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:04.640
the worst of the worst. And
Cody is calling now with someone that I

1358
01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:11.239
never thought i'd have a sports team
on there. But Cody says that they're

1359
01:45:11.279 --> 01:45:15.479
getting a reputation in northern Colorado,
not that far north, but Loveland area.

1360
01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:19.800
Right. Do they play the arena
football? Do they play the arena

1361
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:26.279
football at the Budweiser Center up there? That's correct. So around there there's

1362
01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:30.840
a bunch of hotels. You're saying
that they're getting a reputation for not paying

1363
01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:35.039
Yes, I have it on very
good authority that they've they've done it to

1364
01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:42.800
minimum two hotels, but for lots
of money, right, yeah, tens

1365
01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:45.960
of thousands of dollars. Okay,
So give me an idea. What do

1366
01:45:46.039 --> 01:45:53.760
they owe you? At the hotels
that I am most familiar with, it's

1367
01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:59.880
about twenty eight hundred dollars. At
another hotel, which is the Campbell Woods,

1368
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:03.680
it's over twenty thousand mbers. What
are they doing to try to collect?

1369
01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:12.960
There's been letters of demands and to
them threatening league action and receive zero

1370
01:46:13.399 --> 01:46:18.920
response. There's been a number of
phone calls to every phone number associated with

1371
01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:25.039
the team and no response back.
It's hard to even get the owner to

1372
01:46:25.079 --> 01:46:29.920
pick up the phone anymore. Are
Colorado Spartans the only Is this the only

1373
01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:34.079
team there is in Colorado? In
Colorado's my knowledge? Yes, And it's

1374
01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:38.439
a brand new team this year,
is my understand Now, maybe I should

1375
01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:42.119
amend what I'm saying about the Sleeves
Brigade, the sports team. I doubt

1376
01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:46.119
these individual players, you know,
I doubt they know they know what's going

1377
01:46:46.159 --> 01:46:48.880
on. It's not like they go
in and they're all the players are not

1378
01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:54.239
associated with the payments at all.
Yeah. Yeah, So if you're on

1379
01:46:54.279 --> 01:46:58.960
that team. Guys, just know
that sounds like your boss might be A.

1380
01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:02.520
So you have a number for the
Tony Thompson I do. I can

1381
01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:05.399
pull that up for you real dash. I want you to do it off

1382
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:08.800
the ar KITCHENA will you get that
number? Bo? Why don't you just

1383
01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:11.560
put in a call Deputy Bow if
you ken like, just in a couple

1384
01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:14.840
of see if they'll he'll even answer
and say, hey man, we're getting

1385
01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:17.720
a call on So I want to
put down the hotel specifically again. Okay,

1386
01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:21.680
go ahead. What are the two
that you know of? What'd Spring

1387
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:28.560
sweets? Really? Did you say? Woodbridge? What Spring Spring? An

1388
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:30.520
extended state hotel? Okay? I
never heard of wood Spring. I heard

1389
01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:38.880
of Woodbridge. Okay, So what
else? Candlewood suits Candlewood? Okay?

1390
01:47:39.279 --> 01:47:42.600
What about that other one? That
the other big one up there that everyone

1391
01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:45.520
stays at at that four corners,
I mean, I forget the name of

1392
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:49.439
it, but there's a big hotel
up there. I uh, there's a

1393
01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:56.399
Marriott up here that they I know
they stayed at. I was told they

1394
01:47:56.399 --> 01:48:00.159
got a sponsorship from them, but
then got kicked out after two days for

1395
01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:06.159
smoking pot. Uh Uh, So
we got some We got some gangsters in

1396
01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:11.760
our Colorado spartans. Man. I
wonder if they wrecked the rooms like the

1397
01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:15.680
rock stars do. Yes, they
did. What there in wood Spring Sweets

1398
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:20.199
alone, there was over fifteen hundred
dollars worth of time success. So wait

1399
01:48:20.239 --> 01:48:26.159
a minute, So you're telling me
Wood Springs Suites and the other one,

1400
01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:30.079
what about the other one? They
have any damage? I didn't confirm that

1401
01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:39.199
with be Who do you know at
these places? I've talked to both of

1402
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:43.840
the general managers. Really, now, why did you speak to you?

1403
01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.399
Now? What is your what is
your part in all of this? I

1404
01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:53.479
worked for one of the hotels.
Oh which one? Which springs? Okay?

1405
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:57.960
All right? Tens of thousands of
dollars? Why why did he let

1406
01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:02.000
it get up that high? I
have no idea. That's why the wind

1407
01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:09.399
Spring one is not that high because
of diligent efforts to prevent it from going

1408
01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:14.000
up any high. Oh so it's
not at one. At one point it

1409
01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:18.600
was at about nine thousand. They
did pay some, they just will not

1410
01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:25.239
pay the full balance. And at
Campdlewood Sweep, my understanding is they have

1411
01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:31.319
not paid. Wow, I wonder, okay, all right, so get

1412
01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:34.960
that number and we'll put you on
hold, get that number, and then

1413
01:49:35.239 --> 01:49:39.600
we'll figure out what's going on.
This is this is weird. This is

1414
01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:44.560
a weird one three oh three seven
one three talk seven one three eight two

1415
01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.640
five five Phil, what's going on
with you? Phil? Welcome to the

1416
01:49:47.640 --> 01:49:51.600
show. What's happening? Phil?
Hey? Time? You knew what I've

1417
01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:57.720
called before? Oh yeah, I
think I recognize your voice from way back

1418
01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:01.800
you were, you were and all
kinds of businesses over the years. What's

1419
01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:06.640
happening in the radio business? That's
right? Yeah, and you were?

1420
01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:12.279
Hey Tom, how's your wife go? How's your wife doing? By the

1421
01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:17.840
way, she's saying, all right, she's she's got type two diabetes,

1422
01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:23.720
a couple of much spots in her
lungs, and she's gonna walk very well.

1423
01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:28.199
We've been married for sixty years and
well it's too late to give her

1424
01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:32.159
up. Then. I know,
Hey, Tom, I'm wanting to ask

1425
01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:39.600
you. I have a I have
a dog. She's five years old.

1426
01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:45.079
Her name's Daisy, and she's a
Border Collie. Oh my god. Border

1427
01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:56.199
colleagues are the smartest, and she's
very intelligent. So I was with I'm

1428
01:50:56.239 --> 01:51:01.079
trying to think of the pet smart. Yeah, I was Oh, that

1429
01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:05.880
Banfield Hospital. We get a lot
of complaints about them. Yeah. Well

1430
01:51:06.039 --> 01:51:12.560
I've been going there with Daisy and
I had a payment planned. Well,

1431
01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:15.760
a payment plan so white, I
mean, like you pay regular payments for

1432
01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:20.159
vet care. It's like on ann
installment plan or was it a specific procedure

1433
01:51:20.319 --> 01:51:26.399
or visit no visit. It's like
forty dollars a month. I was paying.

1434
01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:29.079
And what does that get on you? What? What does the forty

1435
01:51:29.119 --> 01:51:35.880
bucks a month get you? Oh? Examination? Blood working like that?

1436
01:51:35.960 --> 01:51:40.359
So is it like is it like
health insurance? Almost? You pay every

1437
01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:45.000
month and then you right right,
right right. So what happened was I

1438
01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:50.720
went in there per visit and she
said you didn't pay. I said,

1439
01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:55.960
well, I got auto pay.
You take it out of my bank account

1440
01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:00.640
each month. Well, she said, well didn't go through. So I

1441
01:52:00.680 --> 01:52:08.760
gave him my debit card and it
went through. Did the visit The next

1442
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:14.680
month? They called me and they
told me that it was a wrong credit

1443
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:15.920
card. I said, wait a
minute, Wait a minute, wait a

1444
01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:19.520
minute, let's get this stuff straightened
out. Well, did you check with

1445
01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:24.920
your bank to make sure you weren't
auto paying all those months? Oh?

1446
01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:28.000
Yeah, I was paying all of
those months. Well, what I'm saying

1447
01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:30.000
is no, No. What I'm
asking phil is were they wrong when they

1448
01:52:30.039 --> 01:52:32.840
said you weren't paying? Were you
actually paying and they didn't know it?

1449
01:52:32.920 --> 01:52:38.239
Or what? Well? I was
paying and they said that no, I

1450
01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:43.520
did not pay and I showed them
my uh no no that okay? Well

1451
01:52:43.560 --> 01:52:46.399
then did you did they take too
much from you? Because you paid them

1452
01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:50.439
again? Okay? And I told
him, I said, don't call me

1453
01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:55.159
again. I looked for a different
vet. They called me, and the

1454
01:52:55.239 --> 01:53:00.640
woman room was so wait, so
you stopped going to them? Going to

1455
01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:03.800
them? Right? I stopped going
to them. She's missing a couple of

1456
01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:11.399
shots right now, a foul mos
shot or something else. Yeah, I'm

1457
01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:15.319
just looking for a good vet.
That what part of town are you in?

1458
01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:18.880
What part of your town? I'm
in a lot of Colorado. Why

1459
01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:21.800
do you want to do why do
you want to do payments? I'm just

1460
01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:28.880
curious about that. I don't know. Everything else is car payments. But

1461
01:53:29.039 --> 01:53:32.600
I don't like the idea of payments
because I mean, what you just pay

1462
01:53:32.640 --> 01:53:35.000
for what you need when you need
it. Why would you want you know,

1463
01:53:35.079 --> 01:53:39.039
a five year old Border Collie is
not going to be You're not going

1464
01:53:39.079 --> 01:53:44.039
to be riddled with a lot of
VET bills, right, I mean,

1465
01:53:44.119 --> 01:53:47.000
so if she needs some shots,
even if it costs you, let's say,

1466
01:53:47.399 --> 01:53:50.000
one hundred and fifty bucks, I
mean, why would you want to

1467
01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:53.680
be on a payment plan where you
pay every month? Matter? That's true,

1468
01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:58.239
that's true. I just like everything
going to my bank account. You

1469
01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:00.199
know, well, you can still
do you can still do that. I

1470
01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:03.720
just don't get the idea of these
payment plans, and I don't know of

1471
01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:08.600
many vet VET clinics that do it
like that, because first of all,

1472
01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:11.680
it's hazy. How much do you
get and how much when do you have

1473
01:54:11.760 --> 01:54:14.279
to pay extra? And all of
that. That's the weird part, you

1474
01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:18.359
know. I don't know what to
tell you on that. Now. There

1475
01:54:18.399 --> 01:54:24.399
are plenty of good vets around.
Here's the problem. A lot of a

1476
01:54:24.439 --> 01:54:28.960
lot of private equity are buying up
vets and they're making groups large groups of

1477
01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:32.000
hospitals, and they're not very value
minded. I mean, you know,

1478
01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:36.319
the days of the good old fashioned
neighborhood vet. I don't even know if

1479
01:54:36.319 --> 01:54:42.680
we have any anymore, but I
imagine I imagine people will call in after

1480
01:54:42.720 --> 01:54:45.960
hearing this and then downloading it.
For sure, we're going to get a

1481
01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:49.439
lot of recommendations for you. Well, I hope. So she's a very

1482
01:54:49.479 --> 01:54:56.479
smart dog. I hate you know. Oh there, they're too smart.

1483
01:54:57.479 --> 01:55:00.640
She's spoiled too. Yeah, she's
gonna she she can beat you at checkers,

1484
01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:05.039
man, for sure. I mean
she tho. Those dogs are smart.

1485
01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:10.560
They're the number one dog as far
as intelligence scale. Now does she

1486
01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:14.760
ever do any hurting instinct on anything? Has she ever tried? Yes?

1487
01:55:15.079 --> 01:55:19.439
Yes, I got her in Montana. Is she black and white? Black

1488
01:55:19.520 --> 01:55:26.640
and white? She's got brown eyebrows, beautiful teeth, not no target her

1489
01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:31.039
teeth at all? You have Do
you take her regularly for teeth cleanings?

1490
01:55:31.560 --> 01:55:35.399
Oh? Yes, that's what I
was doing. Okay, No, I

1491
01:55:35.399 --> 01:55:38.960
get what you're saying. Yeah,
I know where you like that. I

1492
01:55:38.960 --> 01:55:41.439
don't know of anybody who does these
months of pass Susan. Have you ever

1493
01:55:41.479 --> 01:55:45.039
even heard of these monthly plans before? I know you always have critters.

1494
01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:47.880
Have you heard of them? Have
you done with Jackson? Yes, sir,

1495
01:55:47.960 --> 01:55:50.600
so did you do it with yours? Well? I had a great

1496
01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:56.319
Dane and for the first two years
because all the problems with Danes and shots

1497
01:55:56.319 --> 01:56:00.439
and no man all that stuff,
and yeah, we went to pat Smart

1498
01:56:00.479 --> 01:56:02.920
and we also did their training programs. But after the two years were up,

1499
01:56:03.159 --> 01:56:05.840
it didn't make sense anymore, because
you're right, as soon as you

1500
01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:10.840
get past all those initial shots,
you don't need to go what but more

1501
01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:13.880
than once or twice a year,
So you might as well just pay when

1502
01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:16.760
you use it rather than so you
don't have to obligate yourself. Is it

1503
01:56:16.800 --> 01:56:19.680
month to month or is it a
yearly thing? Or what you can do

1504
01:56:19.720 --> 01:56:26.840
either? Hey, did you ever
think phil of giving another pet Smart chance?

1505
01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:30.279
Maybe another band field location? Maybe? Well? You know, they

1506
01:56:30.720 --> 01:56:34.800
they turned me into a collection agency. They said I owed them eight hundred

1507
01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:41.399
and fifty dollars. My contract shows
only four hundred and twenty five dollars a

1508
01:56:41.479 --> 01:56:46.000
year for visits. I have no
idea. So you're right now they're coming

1509
01:56:46.039 --> 01:56:51.479
after you. Huh. Well,
no, they dig my credit. I

1510
01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:57.239
got perfect credit. I got a
one credit. But I don't know why

1511
01:56:57.279 --> 01:57:00.000
they did that. That's stinks,
man. I don't know why either.

1512
01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:02.760
Yea, all right, I got
to take a break. But hold on

1513
01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:06.199
a sec, Hold on a sec. Anybody who knows any good vets out

1514
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:10.199
in our Vada area, will you
give us the call? Please? Or

1515
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write to us help at Troubleshooter dot
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1527
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talking to Cassie now she needs help
collecting a judgment. Well, today's business

1528
01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:25.359
day or or you know the other
side day. What's going on? Cassie?

1529
01:58:26.039 --> 01:58:29.319
Hi? Tom, how are you
good? What's happening? Okay?

1530
01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:33.039
So I have a judgment against the
bar for an old bar called Rogan's Pub.

1531
01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:39.680
What happened? So she didn't pay
me minimum wage for over two and

1532
01:58:39.720 --> 01:58:43.800
a half years, And well,
well, but you must have known something

1533
01:58:43.920 --> 01:58:47.239
was wrong with that during that time. No, no, no, So

1534
01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:55.279
when she has fired me basically abruptly, illegally for some stupid things, I

1535
01:58:55.319 --> 01:58:58.239
had told her I wanted my money. No, no, wait a minute,

1536
01:58:58.319 --> 01:59:00.560
so so hold on, you said
you want your money. This is

1537
01:59:00.560 --> 01:59:04.279
what I understand. Then you knew
you were owed money? You were you

1538
01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:09.439
were working there for how much an
hour? Let's start there, seven to

1539
01:59:09.479 --> 01:59:12.560
fifty an hour is what I was
working at. Now what I want to

1540
01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:17.119
know is were you considered a server? I was a bartender. Okay,

1541
01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:21.920
I don't know much about this kind
of work. But isn't the minimum wage

1542
01:59:21.920 --> 01:59:28.479
for servers and bartenders lower than it
is for other workers because the state figures

1543
01:59:28.520 --> 01:59:32.840
you're going to get tips? Okay? So for tips employees at that time,

1544
01:59:32.920 --> 01:59:36.319
it was eight dollars an hour.
Okay, So you were still being

1545
01:59:36.439 --> 01:59:41.960
underpaid, yes, ma'am, yes, So each and how long did you

1546
01:59:42.039 --> 01:59:45.079
work there? How many years,
two and a half years. So for

1547
01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:48.720
the whole two and a half years, did you put a pencil to it

1548
01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:56.159
and figure out what you were underpaid? So when she okay, so what

1549
01:59:56.520 --> 01:59:59.920
exactly like the whole thing? How
it brought up because she owes me not

1550
02:00:00.199 --> 02:00:04.359
thousand dollars the state of Colorado awarded
me is because she paid me not only

1551
02:00:05.000 --> 02:00:09.520
on the low minimum wage for two
and a half years, but we also

1552
02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:14.239
worked through COVID. We weren't supposed
to be open to COVID, and so

1553
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:16.680
she owed me a paycheck through COVID
and she didn't want to pay because she

1554
02:00:16.720 --> 02:00:21.159
said it was she had to report
it to the unemployment Mind, you done

1555
02:00:21.159 --> 02:00:25.840
it. But you were awarded already, right, so you already won this?

1556
02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:29.600
So nice? Was this in small
claims court? Or was this a

1557
02:00:29.640 --> 02:00:33.720
hearing? They said to go through
small they said, like, the only

1558
02:00:33.720 --> 02:00:36.119
way I'd be able to collect it
is if she didn't pay it is through

1559
02:00:36.199 --> 02:00:40.079
small claims court. I've already tried
everything up there. Now here's what I'm

1560
02:00:40.079 --> 02:00:43.880
asking money from her. The actual
you said, finding from the Division of

1561
02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:48.079
Employment? What what was that?
Did you have a hearing? Nine thousand

1562
02:00:48.119 --> 02:00:51.960
dollars? Yeah, but did you
Was it a hearing or was it just

1563
02:00:53.039 --> 02:01:00.520
an opinion? No, hearing.
I didn't go to court. Court,

1564
02:01:00.720 --> 02:01:06.159
not court. Listen, the division
did. They investigated what is the nine

1565
02:01:06.319 --> 02:01:13.199
thousand dollars? It's not a judgment, that's what they called it for.

1566
02:01:13.239 --> 02:01:15.600
It was for a judgment that well, then they did go to court,

1567
02:01:16.720 --> 02:01:20.479
yeah, for her, but I
didn't. Oh, they took her to

1568
02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:27.319
court directly. Yes, okay,
are you sure so you actually have right

1569
02:01:27.359 --> 02:01:32.199
now in your name a nine thousand
dollars judgment? Yes? Man, yes,

1570
02:01:32.199 --> 02:01:36.920
sir, Okay, she is on
the state of Colorado wage theft I

1571
02:01:38.039 --> 02:01:41.479
get it. Yeah, yeah,
no, I know about that site.

1572
02:01:41.520 --> 02:01:44.239
As a matter of fact, what
is that site again? I love that

1573
02:01:44.359 --> 02:01:48.399
site. It's like a Colorado wage
theft thing for bars. Yeah, there's

1574
02:01:48.479 --> 02:01:51.239
a lot of people, there are
a lot of It's like the Sleeves Brigade

1575
02:01:51.239 --> 02:01:56.600
for employers. Here's okay, she
worked as a bar. You worked at

1576
02:01:56.640 --> 02:01:59.800
a bar in two and a half
years and was paid less than minimum wage

1577
02:01:59.840 --> 02:02:03.560
and got a judgment. Okay,
well that's good then. But but what

1578
02:02:03.640 --> 02:02:08.880
I don't understand is they told you
you'd have to go to court again to

1579
02:02:08.960 --> 02:02:13.840
collect that judgment basically, yes,
okay, And I wouldn't do that.

1580
02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:17.680
I would go to a collection attorney. Okay. I I had went to

1581
02:02:17.680 --> 02:02:23.039
a collection attorney. They told me
that if she filed bankruptcy, then I'm

1582
02:02:23.079 --> 02:02:27.960
basically another creditor, not for not
for No, I don't think so,

1583
02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:31.199
I don't think for employees you are? I think I don't know. But

1584
02:02:31.840 --> 02:02:36.920
first of all, do you think
she's going to go bankrupt? Well,

1585
02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:41.000
she sold her the business was sold
underneath her. It wasn't her business to

1586
02:02:41.079 --> 02:02:45.159
own. But I so, wait, she doesn't hold on so she's not

1587
02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:49.279
even there anymore. No, she's
not. It is a bar that is

1588
02:02:49.319 --> 02:02:56.399
no longer there. Oh so is
the judgment against her personally or the entity?

1589
02:02:56.560 --> 02:03:00.319
Yes, against her and her business
personally, but it is against her

1590
02:03:00.399 --> 02:03:04.800
personally. Yes, all right?
What about if you go to small claims

1591
02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:10.640
court you can get at least seventy
five hundred of it. Okay, let

1592
02:03:10.680 --> 02:03:14.960
me ask you somebody, does she
own a home? As far as I

1593
02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:17.359
know, I don't know too much
about this. You see, you need

1594
02:03:17.479 --> 02:03:21.600
you need a collection attorney. I'll
tell you why, just to explore it,

1595
02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:28.399
because because you need to she bankruptcy. They're right, she could go

1596
02:03:28.479 --> 02:03:34.079
bankrupt. But if you have a
judgment already, you can go put a

1597
02:03:34.119 --> 02:03:39.600
lien on her house. I tried
to. I actually do have. I

1598
02:03:39.640 --> 02:03:44.680
have a put a lien on her
business at the time before she sold it,

1599
02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:46.600
before the landlord sold it, I
had put a lien on it.

1600
02:03:46.640 --> 02:03:49.600
So there is a lean on the
state of card of four her a lien

1601
02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:55.600
on what there is no business about
her own business, Well, there's no

1602
02:03:55.680 --> 02:04:00.600
business. I mean. What I'm
saying is if she is personally on the

1603
02:04:00.680 --> 02:04:06.720
hook for a nine thousand dollars judgment, then she is personally going to be

1604
02:04:06.840 --> 02:04:14.840
responsible, meaning anything she owns so
or any bank accounts, I mean anything.

1605
02:04:15.520 --> 02:04:17.399
So, but you don't know how
to do this. That's why I'm

1606
02:04:17.439 --> 02:04:21.760
telling you how to do it.
Yeah, you get a collection attorney because

1607
02:04:21.800 --> 02:04:25.119
you don't know how to do it. But if you didn't know how to

1608
02:04:25.159 --> 02:04:30.520
do it, you would do a
writ of garnishment. First of all,

1609
02:04:30.560 --> 02:04:35.039
you do interrogatories and you'd ask where
her bank accounts are and accounts receivable,

1610
02:04:35.079 --> 02:04:41.279
any money, any house, any
equity, whatever. Then if she doesn't

1611
02:04:41.319 --> 02:04:45.680
answer the interrogatories, she actually can
get a warrant for her arrest for contempt

1612
02:04:45.720 --> 02:04:50.680
of court. And then what you
do is you go about just a long

1613
02:04:50.800 --> 02:04:58.439
process. You tell you have to
enforce it. So really you need to

1614
02:04:58.520 --> 02:05:01.520
get someone who knows what they're doing. Did you actually talk to a collection

1615
02:05:01.600 --> 02:05:06.520
attorney? Yes, and they told
me that who's theyre? You talked to

1616
02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:12.720
one attorney to an attorney and they
said, basically, if I went after

1617
02:05:12.760 --> 02:05:15.800
her, it's going to cost me
more to go after her, So basically

1618
02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:17.680
the whole nine times. Well,
that tells me. That tells me they're

1619
02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:23.800
morons. Okay, those attorneys put
them down, put a check near their

1620
02:05:23.840 --> 02:05:27.760
name. They're morons. If they're
collection attorneys, they know that they can

1621
02:05:27.840 --> 02:05:32.079
add collection costs to the to the
judgment. They also know that their statutory

1622
02:05:32.119 --> 02:05:39.119
interest. They also know that some
do it for a contingency fee. So

1623
02:05:39.399 --> 02:05:43.479
whoever you talk to, they're not
collection attorneys. Did you know how did

1624
02:05:43.520 --> 02:05:47.800
you find these attorneys? I looked
it up online and did they say they

1625
02:05:47.840 --> 02:05:53.279
were collection attorneys? Yeah? Okay, well you didn't find I had my

1626
02:05:53.319 --> 02:05:56.039
paperwork on me. I would I
would be able to tell you the name

1627
02:05:56.079 --> 02:05:58.319
of the attorney, but I don't
have my paper for company right now.

1628
02:05:59.600 --> 02:06:03.640
You need find truly a collection attorney, and we can tell you where to

1629
02:06:03.680 --> 02:06:08.520
start. But I don't know if
he'll take it. I mean he might,

1630
02:06:09.199 --> 02:06:14.199
but you know, it depends.
If they don't think she has anything.

1631
02:06:14.520 --> 02:06:17.479
You need to do some research.
You need to do some research first

1632
02:06:17.479 --> 02:06:20.960
to see if she has anything.
That's probably why they don't want to take

1633
02:06:21.000 --> 02:06:27.319
it. Okay, because if she
has a home with equity, you're gonna

1634
02:06:27.319 --> 02:06:30.720
get it, gonna you're gonna win. Okay, find that out first.

1635
02:06:31.079 --> 02:06:34.520
You can get her address. Once
you get her address, you can run

1636
02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:39.720
an o ane on the property.
You can find out what it's worth and

1637
02:06:39.760 --> 02:06:43.640
what is owed on it. Okay, Okay, why don't you just do

1638
02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:47.840
that and then call us back.
I'll mark this as a pending and then

1639
02:06:47.920 --> 02:06:54.279
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02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:27.000
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nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

1646
02:07:27.159 --> 02:07:30.399
Tom Martino here three three seven one
three talk seven one three eight two five

1647
02:07:30.520 --> 02:07:33.600
five. Dan McKenzie can do wills, trust, probate, keep you out

1648
02:07:33.640 --> 02:07:38.800
of probate. If somebody just dies
you need help mackenzie law. By the

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02:07:38.840 --> 02:07:42.279
way, we like Dan. He's
a great expert and he can even help

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you devise a plan that controls your
heirs. Actually, if you don't trust

1651
02:07:45.800 --> 02:07:50.119
him completely with your stuff, I
mean you can or you can make it

1652
02:07:50.199 --> 02:07:59.039
simple eight three three co plans eight
three three co plans. So Greg's got

1653
02:07:59.039 --> 02:08:03.680
a question on capital gains. Greg, what's going on? Hi, my

1654
02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:07.239
sister, her husband recently died,
my brother in law. She lives in

1655
02:08:07.319 --> 02:08:13.800
Ohio. They bought a house almost
nine years ago for one hundred and seventy

1656
02:08:13.800 --> 02:08:18.279
five thousand dollars, and we're trying
to figure out if she will owe capital

1657
02:08:18.399 --> 02:08:24.840
gains if she's able to sell the
home for about two hundred I assume I

1658
02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:31.720
assume they had joint tenancy as a
husband and wife. That is correct.

1659
02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:37.000
So what's going to happen is they
own it together, his half will go

1660
02:08:37.039 --> 02:08:39.640
to her, but on a stepped
up basis, So she's going to have

1661
02:08:41.439 --> 02:08:46.520
a weird basis. For example,
what did they buy it for one seventy

1662
02:08:46.600 --> 02:08:50.319
five? Okay, so what's it
worth? Now? It's worth two seventy

1663
02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:54.399
five, but they may that's all
in all this time, hunh just it's

1664
02:08:54.399 --> 02:08:58.640
only worth one hundred grand more.
It's only worth one hundred grand more.

1665
02:08:58.680 --> 02:09:03.520
But there's this is rural Ohio,
okay, so it's worth two seventy five

1666
02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:07.439
now, So if it's worth two
seventy five at the time of death,

1667
02:09:09.159 --> 02:09:13.840
right, you divide that by two
and she gets half of that stepped up

1668
02:09:13.880 --> 02:09:18.800
basis. So her basis is going
to be let's round it off to like

1669
02:09:18.960 --> 02:09:24.560
one forty for his half, and
then her half is gonna be I forget

1670
02:09:24.600 --> 02:09:28.600
what you said, but it's gonna
be whatever her half was originally plus the

1671
02:09:28.600 --> 02:09:35.800
one forty will be her new basis
plus plus whatever improvements permanent improvements they put

1672
02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:41.680
into the home. So you said
they paid one hundred and seventy five originally,

1673
02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:45.680
right, So okay, okay,
so that shouldn't be too hard to

1674
02:09:45.680 --> 02:09:48.359
figure out. So you're gonna have
about ninety and one hundred and forty ninety

1675
02:09:48.399 --> 02:09:54.279
plus one forty. It will be
her new basis of two thirty. So

1676
02:09:54.560 --> 02:09:58.640
you say it's gonna sell for less
than that, right? Or no,

1677
02:09:58.640 --> 02:10:01.840
No, two seventy five. She's
going to have a little bit of gain,

1678
02:10:05.560 --> 02:10:11.359
that's it. So she'll have let's
say it sells for two eighty.

1679
02:10:11.359 --> 02:10:15.640
I'm trying to keep it simple.
So then she has fifty thousand dollars in

1680
02:10:15.720 --> 02:10:18.720
gain. Right, So if she
has fifty, go ahead, they put

1681
02:10:18.800 --> 02:10:26.359
improvements, and they did fence,
a generator and a two car detached grind.

1682
02:10:26.479 --> 02:10:30.039
Okay, well, help, she
might be able to absorb that extra

1683
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:35.000
fifty. Do you think they put
more than fifty into it? Yes,

1684
02:10:35.239 --> 02:10:39.560
Well, then she has nothing her
basis. Her basis will be that two

1685
02:10:39.640 --> 02:10:48.840
thirty plus impermanent improvements. Actually,
so you know, but tell her she

1686
02:10:48.880 --> 02:10:52.039
doesn't get to step up the basis
on the whole house. She only gets

1687
02:10:52.079 --> 02:11:00.359
to step it up on her on
his half. Got it perfect, Thank

1688
02:11:00.399 --> 02:11:03.279
you, no problem. And I'm
sorry to hear that her husband died.

1689
02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:09.319
I hope she's doing well. Three
oh three seven one three talk seven one

1690
02:11:09.359 --> 02:11:11.039
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1691
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oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty
two. Hi Tom Martino, you're a

1708
02:12:31.520 --> 02:12:35.840
troubleshooter. Three O three seven one
three talk seven one three eight two five

1709
02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:41.520
five. Hey, we have run
out of time. So we also have

1710
02:12:41.680 --> 02:12:45.359
Deputy Bow in the house that were
working on stuff we had. I'm not

1711
02:12:45.399 --> 02:12:48.279
going to mention anybody else, but
there's someone else looking at being a deputy,

1712
02:12:48.359 --> 02:12:50.479
and I'm not going to put pressure
on her. So I'm not mentioning

1713
02:12:50.479 --> 02:12:52.800
her name, and I'm not mentioning
anything because she may not want to do

1714
02:12:52.840 --> 02:12:54.359
it. But I will tell you
this, it would be the first female

1715
02:12:54.439 --> 02:13:00.279
deputy we ever had ever. I
don't know why I didn't design it that

1716
02:13:00.319 --> 02:13:05.399
way. I never said I don't
want a female debut. Sue's shame on

1717
02:13:05.439 --> 02:13:07.840
you. Why don't we have a
female deputy meeting? No, this is

1718
02:13:07.880 --> 02:13:11.880
gonna be great if she decides.
Why is that? Huh? So?

1719
02:13:11.960 --> 02:13:16.079
Anyway, Jackson, I appreciate you
being here. Man. Now, Jackson,

1720
02:13:18.279 --> 02:13:20.960
I'm going to give you a business
quiz. What business are you in?

1721
02:13:22.399 --> 02:13:28.039
The service business? I service customers, that's right, and the lead

1722
02:13:28.079 --> 02:13:31.079
acquisition business. Right, you want
to get customers to service. Right.

1723
02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:33.880
But if you said I'm in the
gutter business, I said, no,

1724
02:13:33.920 --> 02:13:37.039
you're not. Your your employees are. Although you probably know the business now,

1725
02:13:37.079 --> 02:13:39.319
don't you. Could you install it? Oh? Absolutely? Oh you

1726
02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:43.359
could so. Oh you're one of
these guys that do it all. I

1727
02:13:43.439 --> 02:13:46.960
started. So when I was sixteen
seventeen, we started. I started doing

1728
02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:48.680
home improvements. As far as actual
installation. Yeah, but you were you

1729
02:13:48.760 --> 02:13:52.319
were working for national corporations doing that, right, But you learned how right,

1730
02:13:52.359 --> 02:13:56.279
and then and then you became your
own man. Well, actually,

1731
02:13:56.800 --> 02:14:01.000
I grew up through Sears home improvements, and I learned how things are put

1732
02:14:01.000 --> 02:14:03.399
together and how to sell them,
and I grew up. Were you a

1733
02:14:03.520 --> 02:14:07.840
tin man? No? No,
remember those days? Okay, I've seen

1734
02:14:07.840 --> 02:14:11.000
the movie to you you're too old. No, you're way too young.

1735
02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:15.960
So how long you've been doing your
keguard keguard? I've owned this for seven

1736
02:14:16.039 --> 02:14:18.399
years now, and before that you
were doing home improvements. I've been in

1737
02:14:18.439 --> 02:14:22.560
the home improvement game off and on
for about twenty and part of it was

1738
02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:24.920
finance. So yes, I learned
how to install it, sell it,

1739
02:14:26.079 --> 02:14:28.680
run it, finance it, and
then open my own. So are you

1740
02:14:30.239 --> 02:14:33.560
doing financing with keguard if people need
to finance it? Yes, sir,

1741
02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:35.640
Oh cool, So you have in
house or what do I call in house?

1742
02:14:35.680 --> 02:14:39.760
But you arrange it. Yeah.
So the company we use is inner

1743
02:14:39.800 --> 02:14:43.079
Bank. They're based out of Californa. Is it anything like same as cash?

1744
02:14:43.159 --> 02:14:46.560
We have that option twelve months,
same as cash. So what's nice

1745
02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:50.760
about inner Bank is there's no lean
on the property. There's no attachment.

1746
02:14:50.760 --> 02:14:54.920
It's a signature loan. Oh that's
pretty cool. And so do you find

1747
02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:58.000
a great percentage of people need that
or do most people pay? No,

1748
02:14:58.199 --> 02:15:03.680
most people that are in the business
for you know, a specialty item like

1749
02:15:03.680 --> 02:15:07.439
ours, they come check her credit
card. On track homes, what is

1750
02:15:09.199 --> 02:15:13.000
the normal cycle for putting new stuff
on? So usually your gutters are gonna

1751
02:15:13.039 --> 02:15:16.960
last about twenty twenty five years,
but not on a track home, I

1752
02:15:16.000 --> 02:15:20.279
won't. Well, maybe it comes
down to the support from the facialboard.

1753
02:15:20.399 --> 02:15:24.680
So if the if the facial board
is really nailed into the raftertails sure,

1754
02:15:24.840 --> 02:15:28.000
But so anyway, you give them
a call three oh three four seven six

1755
02:15:28.079 --> 02:15:31.680
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1757
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Martino. Call twenty four to seven
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1758
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