WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:08.839 It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety 2 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:12.439 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are get 3 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:16.359 off our show, idiot. The kids are playing or trail off. The 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.320 countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, Goldplay Inner 5 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:25.160 Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's 6 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:29.559 the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? 7 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:44.159 Here's Nick Coffee? Is it fair to say that the Caliperi departure from 8 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:48.039 Kentucky, which by the way, is now official, was that more of 9 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:55.240 a circus than Louisville's entire process? I mean, Kentucky's search hasn't really started 10 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:59.600 yet. I guess it'll start right now. But what a crazy forty eight 11 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.200 hours roughly, In fact, it wasn't even forty eight hours. I think 12 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:07.239 it was closer to Sunday evening whenever it became real that Cali Perry was talking 13 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:12.359 to Arkansas and was gonna be their coach and gonna leave Lexington. And then 14 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:18.959 since since then it just got weird. And I think the uh, the 15 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.719 real truth as far as what exactly has transpired between the two sides. I 16 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.120 guess the three sides Cali Perry, Kentucky, and Arkansas. I don't know 17 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:32.599 if we'll ever know for sure, but it is over. Caliperry has put 18 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:38.079 out a video which I did love the fact that the first video they posted, 19 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.879 and I say they because Adam I'm sure he knows how to work an 20 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:45.879 iPhone, but the person holding the camera, I mean, their arm had 21 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:49.359 to be tired, as he's just you know, a four minute roughly for 22 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.599 roughly four minutes of him talking about really and honestly, it was it was. 23 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.560 I mean, I don't think he said anything wrong at all. I 24 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.239 think he was It was really just a big thank you to everybody and I 25 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:07.400 guess goodbye essentially. But he looked really sad. And he'll never say it, 26 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:12.759 but I think he realized that he I don't know, maybe it was 27 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:19.599 emotions as far as just being so bitter and knowing because look, everybody knows. 28 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:24.759 Even whenever he walked off the floor against Oakland, everybody fans administration cal 29 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:30.199 like everybody knows was aware that this needed to end. It just had run 30 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.400 its course. But again, there was a far from easy extra strategy to 31 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.919 make that happen until you know, Arkansas got involved. So maybe he grabbed 32 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:42.479 a lifeline to get the hell out of Lexington and then now realized that he 33 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.919 didn't really want to do that. But it's too late, so we'll get 34 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.919 into some of the specifics as to what has happened in the last forty eight 35 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:55.240 hours allegedly, but it is official. April ninth, the first day of 36 00:02:55.280 --> 00:03:01.759 the college basketball off season. John Calipari is officially done at Kentucky. All 37 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:06.319 right, Welcome in everybody, Thanks for joining us, hanging out here on 38 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:09.439 a rainy Tuesday afternoon. Coffee and company. That's us. We are fueled 39 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:13.000 by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You make sure you sign up 40 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.479 to become a member of the Refreshing Awards program if you haven't already. My 41 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:20.120 name is Nick Coffee. The other voice you're going to hear, and his 42 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.759 voice is not at one hundred percent, but that's not going to keep him 43 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.560 down because he's still I mean, even if you've got you know, forty 44 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:30.919 percent of those broadcast pipes ready for use, it's still better than most because 45 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:35.000 you've got a golden voice. John. It does feel good to still talk 46 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.719 like mine. It doesn't hurt to say anything. It's just I can tell 47 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:42.000 that my voice is nasally. You really think it's mostly allergy related? I 48 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:44.800 hope so. I mean the timing of it makes sense. You don't feel 49 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:46.719 like sick or anything, though, right, No, no, no, 50 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.240 no, I feel similar to how I did yesterday. Okay, well, 51 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.039 you sound great, you look great, and we're ready to rock and roll 52 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:55.879 here. I want to ask you this. You are an Indiana fan and 53 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.000 you don't really keep up with Louisville really orkinuy. I mean, you know 54 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:04.479 enough to be dangerous, but also your job producing this show, oftentimes producing 55 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:10.240 KSR. You're going to figure out know what's going on just because of work. 56 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.479 But do you have any interest in this this circus? Oh yeah, 57 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.279 I don't get how you can. Because John Cala Perry's been really I mean, 58 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.600 he hasn't been the top name in head coaching in college basketball for the 59 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:23.279 past fifteen years, but he's one of the top. He's a big brand, 60 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:27.720 he's an og and really from twenty ten to twenty fifteen, some might 61 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:30.519 say he was the best coach at college basketball. And he's also a character, 62 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:32.720 and I don't mean that like to insult him. I mean, I 63 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.639 don't. He's just different. He handles things, does things differently the most 64 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.759 coaches, and it's mostly because he's arrogant and thinks he can just do whatever 65 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:44.519 the hell he wants. But either way, like that does provide entertainment. 66 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.480 You know, I didn't get hardly any feedback yesterday from any listener about how 67 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.680 much we talked about the Kentucky Circus, And even if I did get a 68 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:55.639 bunch of it, I wouldn't change what I know we need to do, 69 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:58.839 which is continue to discuss this because it is a big deal. It's one 70 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:01.759 of the most talk things talk about things nationally right now. And the layers 71 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:06.399 to just the mess in the last couple of days. I mean I called 72 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:10.120 a mess. I mean it certainly seemed like nobody really knew what was going 73 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:16.759 on, and I still wasn't. I was still surprised to hear Cal address 74 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:23.079 the fan base the way he did in his video, which if you haven't 75 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.800 seen it, that's how it became official. He had an old video that 76 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.959 I say old video is new today, but it was the initial tweet included 77 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.480 a video that looked like it was recorded on a two thousand and four Motorola 78 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:36.279 raisor phone, which John may do net even know what that is. Is 79 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:41.920 it a flip phone? Yes, but it was like the top back of 80 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.600 the day, Like, yeah, flip phones were cool for you know, 81 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:49.160 for a little two three year run there, it seemed. And the Motorola 82 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:54.040 Raiser, you google it, you've probably seen one. The Motorola Raiser was 83 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:58.720 like it was sleek, it was thin, uh, and it just looked 84 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:00.160 a lot cooler than any of the other flip phones. And I'm sure it 85 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.560 had some advances at that time from a technological standpoint that made it one of 86 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:09.480 the elite phones at the time, which that's not a smartphone. But either 87 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.160 way, the video quality looked terrible, so they didn't delete it, which 88 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.160 had everybody thinking, oh he took it down, maybe he's maybe he's second 89 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.360 guessing it once again, what's he doing? And it's because the video quality 90 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.560 was so bad, so somebody who you know, knows how to use a 91 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:25.560 phone was able to upload it in better quality. But I was surprised to 92 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:30.759 see him really go out the way that he did in that video because it 93 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.160 was the right thing to do. And again I have no issue with anything 94 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.360 he said, And I wouldn't care if he's Nothing he would say would really 95 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.839 impact me, because you know, I'm just here for the entertainment of it, 96 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.319 right, Like I don't care if he tells the fans to go play 97 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.600 in traffic, or if he tells him that he had a great run, 98 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:47.319 Like, doesn't really matter to me. But he looked really sad in doing 99 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:51.240 it. And we've got some some of the clips here from this four minute 100 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:56.720 long video that our news team over there on news Radio eight forty whas put 101 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.240 together. There have been opportunities that have been and presented us, so we're 102 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:06.279 discussing them as a family. I love coaching, I love coaching young people. 103 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:11.920 I love this year's team. I loved every day walking in. They've 104 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.319 invigorated me. So they are not in order here like I needed them to 105 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:20.120 be. But that is him not acknowledging Arkansas as he's telling Kentucky fans and 106 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:25.000 anybody watching the video that he's moving on. And I don't know if it's 107 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.639 because he's waiting for the official Like it wouldn't shock me if by this time 108 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:32.839 this segment ends, there is a release from Arkansas stating that he has been 109 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.319 hired as the new head coach, and they're going to have a press conference 110 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:39.800 tomorrow morning. In fact, I think one of the Fayetteville news stations, 111 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.680 one of the reporters, has put out there that he is expected to have 112 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.319 his presser tomorrow, So he'll probably fly out maybe tonight this evening, I'm 113 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:53.079 not sure. And because of just how weird this guy any little thing, 114 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:57.480 people are trying to analyze it as if it might if it may mean something 115 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.720 nobody else is picking up on right, Like he didn't mention Arkansas. Does 116 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:03.720 that mean that he's just not going to coach anymore? And does that mean 117 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.480 that you know, he's gonna have he's gonna try to go to a different 118 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:13.120 school. And no, Here's what happened. And I'm sure by now, 119 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:18.480 if you're somebody that has been trying to follow this thing closely, he talked 120 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.000 to Arkansas on Sunday, I guess had somewhat of an arrangement in place, 121 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.439 and by Monday, which was yesterday, it had gotten out. It was 122 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:30.040 all over I mean everybody who covers college basketball. I mean, heck, 123 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:35.039 it was I'm not kidding you. It stole the show of the national championship 124 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.720 hype. I mean the game last night, which we'll talk about in just 125 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:41.039 a second. I mean, but all of the coverage leading up to the 126 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.879 championship game, no matter where you were at, was it ESPN or was 127 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.879 it you know, the TNT Turner crew, like they talked a lot about 128 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.480 this, so it was clearly that it was. It was essentially done. 129 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.720 And then you see col walking the dog, which, now that twenty four 130 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.519 hours have passed since that video came out, that's an all time moment. 131 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.399 I mean, that has nothing to do with the rival but like you know, 132 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.039 if you're a part of this rivalry and it means a lot to you, 133 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:07.559 then like you're pretty familiar with a lot of things that happen on both 134 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.080 sides, they get a lot of attention. But him walking his dog in 135 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.120 the middle of the afternoon and what is believed to be the most the busiest 136 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.840 street in Lexington, whenever he knows that the big story nationally, not just 137 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.679 in Lexington, is about him going to Arkansas, Like that was just that 138 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:26.440 was insane. And then last night, you know, there was some belief 139 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.360 that he was having cold feet and wasn't didn't want to go anymore. So 140 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.120 I'm sure Matt is talking about this right now, which I'm not even going 141 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:35.759 to tell you where to find him, which I know you can. And 142 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.440 if you're listening to him and not me, I get it. If you're 143 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.799 a Kentucky fan, he's big blue Jesus and this is the first time you're 144 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.039 going to hear him on a platform like this with Cali Perry not being the 145 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:52.639 coach anymore. So anyways, cal Perry does in fact talk to I guess 146 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:58.039 some people at UK, and he talked to him yesterday, not Mitch Barnhardt, 147 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.120 to I guess, kind of say will you will you? I don't 148 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.840 know if it was a counter or what it was. It's probably more so 149 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:09.480 of a because because I think the initial report from Dick Gabriel, longtime Lexington 150 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:15.080 media member he I guess was on k ET and said that cala Perry met 151 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:20.080 with UK people yesterday and told them they could match Arkansas and Arkansas or in 152 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.080 Kentucky said no, which that just doesn't make any sense because the contract that 153 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.840 he is going to sign with Arkansas is not a better contract than the one 154 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.440 he has, so how would they match it. I mean that it makes 155 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:33.320 no sense at all. So there were probably some contingencies, some things he 156 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.360 might have wanted, but it wouldn't have been like a new contract. He 157 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.039 wouldn't certainly wouldn't have been a bigger raise, although I shouldn't say that. 158 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:48.120 Maybe it was because Cal's arrogance an ego is insane, Like he may think 159 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.679 because Arkansas wants him that that means Kentucky's gonna give him, you know, 160 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:58.399 a two lifetime contracts or something. I mean, wouldn't shock me. So 161 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:03.200 what Cal, we're cal screwed up here is that he was talking to Arkansas 162 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.840 and in his contract there's a clause that he has to state he has to 163 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.919 let the university know in some official manner that he is conversing with another school. 164 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.919 Well, he didn't do that. He violated his contract. And I 165 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:20.039 guess credit to Kentucky, and I'm sure it's Mitch Barnhart that is making this 166 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:24.240 decision. However, those people talking to Cal Perry were not Mitch Barnhart, 167 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.799 because again, those two don't like each other, they don't have a relationship, 168 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.840 but they they I mean to be frank with you, I think it's 169 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.480 a little ballsy because what they did there is essentially you know, tell him, 170 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.720 if you want your money, you're gonna have to sue us because we 171 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.879 believe we have some cause here to terminate your contract because of how you went 172 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.440 about this. So at that point cal has no options. And look, 173 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.240 you couldn't come back now like this thing, I mean, this thing is, 174 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.799 it's far beyond gone. And even though Kentucky fans I think are kind 175 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:58.200 of sad that this is over. And I was just telling Ma Thatt this 176 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:03.679 before the show starts, like there's clearly a level of excitement from Kentucky fans 177 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.600 just because they're gonna get something new. It's a new era, and that 178 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.679 that alone can be exciting. The amount of Louisville fans that have actually ever 179 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.200 watched Pat Kelsey coach a game, I would say it's a very small percentage. 180 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.559 And that's not a criticism, that's just the reality. But louisvill fans 181 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.120 are excited as hell for this new era, and he's certainly done a lot 182 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.600 in what a week and a half to get us more excited. But Kentucky 183 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:30.679 fans are excited, but they're all so sad just because you know, you 184 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.000 know, regardless of how it ended, something that went on this long, 185 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.919 that did have some really really great moments along the way. That ending alone, 186 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.240 that ending is sad, But it wouldn't mean the Kentucky fans. I 187 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.159 mean, I don't know if there's this. I'm sure there are some, 188 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.000 but I don't I don't know, And I know a lot of Kentucky fans. 189 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.480 I mean a lot of my friends, even some family. None of 190 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.000 them would want them to do anything to try to get him back. I 191 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.279 mean, I think they now look at this as and here's what's crazy. 192 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.200 They know they're probably not going to get Danny Hurley, they know they're probably 193 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:07.480 not gonna get Billy Donovan, and they're a little worried that maybe Scott drew 194 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:11.559 in the guy, meaning he's not worthy, although I've seen some mixed reaction 195 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.559 to that. But either way, they just want it to be over with 196 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.440 Cal. And I don't believe it's truly because they hate the guy's guts. 197 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.440 They want him out of town, the hell with him. I think it's 198 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.519 more so just because again that thing ran its course probably three four years ago. 199 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:30.080 So Cal, I mean, I don't know if he has any regrets. 200 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:31.799 If he did, he'd certainly never say it. But man, he 201 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:37.639 looks sad in that video he did, and for Mitch Barnhardt, I mean 202 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:45.799 even his tweet that I'm about to read to you guys. I mean, 203 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.559 it's what you would expect an athletic director to do. And it wasn't like 204 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:54.360 he was gushing over Cal and talking about how great he is is. You 205 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.559 know, it was very I'll read it directly. This is what Mitch Barnhart 206 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.639 said an hour ago after Cal's video became public. We we were appreciative of 207 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.000 John Caliperi leading our program for the last fifteen years, adding to the legacy 208 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.919 of championship success in Kentucky. We're grateful to John for as many contributions to 209 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.000 the university and our state, both on and off the court. We're working 210 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.679 diligently to hire a proven, highly dedicated coach who embraces the importance of this 211 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.600 program to our fans and the state of Kentucky. That is about as vanilla 212 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.840 but professional as it gets when it comes to a statement regarding the situation. 213 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.879 But I would have been if I'm a Kentucky fan, I'd have been totally 214 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.000 fine if he didn't say anything about Cal. Because of how Cal handled this 215 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.200 whole thing. I mean just you know, on his way out, just 216 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:39.320 try. I mean, he won. I think he wanted so clearly to 217 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:45.720 have like the last word over Mitch. And I mean, I'm not even 218 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.360 sure how popular Mitch Barnhardt is among his fan base, but I mean i'd 219 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.759 say at this point, if you have any level of emotion, rather it 220 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.679 be I mean, if you're you know, if you're sad. As far 221 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.720 as how it played out with the weird forty eight hour window here, I'd 222 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.200 say that you probably just have to blame I mean, probably blame Cal not 223 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:13.320 anybody else. Yeah, So anyways, it's over, and now I guess 224 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:18.120 Kentucky search has actually started, all right. Here's here's another clip from Cal's 225 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.600 uh message to uh to I mean, wouldn't you say it on a few 226 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.879 You probably didn't listen to it, John, but it's it's clearly just a 227 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:28.639 message to the fans, I think more than anything. Yeah, who else 228 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.720 would he? And he didn't, you know, and he didn't think Mitch 229 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:35.320 by any mean no, which it's kind of like the last laugh. And 230 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.679 I don't think, oh yeah, because Karen mars himself here. No, 231 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:39.120 you're right, I think I think I think Mitch Chick at the last laugh, 232 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.279 and he would never be one to like, you know, do anything 233 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:46.159 with said last laugh, just because that's not who he is as a as 234 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.720 a person, it seems. But I mean, yeah, I mean this. 235 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:56.320 I think Cal. Here's the thing. He could have talked to Arkansas 236 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:04.519 and had a real arrangement in place, and at that point never you know, 237 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.879 told anybody, it never got out, and then he backed out, 238 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:11.399 and then he'd still be here. But I think he and we'll get into 239 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.480 some of the theories out there as far as the Tyson Chicken thing, as 240 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:19.639 far as the guy who I guess is the grandson of the founders of that 241 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:25.600 company billionaires, which when I say grandson, you'd probably think younger. He's 242 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.720 older, he's like Cal's age, But that's how long you know that company 243 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:33.080 has been around. But I wonder if he just got intoxicated by the want 244 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.159 that they had for him and the money they'd pay him, and they'd wow 245 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:41.759 him because you know, I would say, there aren't many schools that, 246 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:44.480 even if they could afford it, would do what Arkansas is doing. Maybe 247 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.879 I'm wrong, and I'm only thinking about, you know, the recent failures 248 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.240 that he's had. It's not to say he's a bad coach and that nobody 249 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:56.360 would want to hire him, but Arkansas probably, I mean just didn't think 250 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:00.799 it would be even remotely realistic because let's be real, outside of you know, 251 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:03.680 I guess before you get to the realization that this is what's best for 252 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.759 everybody involved and it's a win win for everybody, Kentucky Kentucky or Kentucky Arkansas 253 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.599 and Cal, once you get you know, before you get there, you're 254 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.000 thinking, wow, the hell would you leave Kentucky for Arkansas? And then 255 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.119 you realize the situation and you just you know, you understand. So I 256 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.559 mean, Arkansas probably never thought this could even come about, which is why 257 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.000 they went after Chris Beard Jerome Tang and they talked to Arkansas little Rocks coach 258 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:32.960 before this ever really got rolling. So I think Cal will be Arkansas's coach. 259 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.079 I don't think he's going to back out at the last minute here and 260 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:40.640 have no job and you know, no money. But I don't think he 261 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:42.440 wants to. Like I think there's no doubt that he and his wife have 262 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:47.920 thought, like, what do we really get ourselves into here, because you 263 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:51.559 know, maybe the thought of sticking it to barnhard and sticking it to critics, 264 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:53.960 meeting those in the media and even fans, like is that worth going 265 00:17:55.000 --> 00:18:00.200 to live in Fayetteville, Arkansas. Probably not, but you know, and 266 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.680 there's worse places to live. I have family there, and I actually think 267 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:07.640 it's a pretty nice, pretty nice town. But I mean, one of 268 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.119 the things that cal would never admit, but I believe, because I don't 269 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:14.680 think he's dumb, one of the things that has to have popped up in 270 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:19.200 his mind in the last forty eight hours that made him second guess the decision, 271 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.920 give him cold feet, whatever you want to call it. One of 272 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:30.400 the reasons why he was able to be so successful at Kentucky is because it's 273 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:37.079 Kentucky, not because of anything. He's elite at good enough coach certainly, 274 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:44.160 that's been proven great recruiter, and I think he'll recruit well wherever he goes. 275 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.359 But the level that took it, you know, the level that it 276 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.119 got to its highest, was also because it was at Kentucky. He can't 277 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.680 sell Arkansas as Kentucky, and I think in a way that's why he was 278 00:18:55.759 --> 00:19:00.079 so self absorbed in really branding the program him under him. It was more 279 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.920 of a cal program than a Kentucky program. And I don't know if that's 280 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.200 an insecurity. I don't know if that's you know, the way he feels 281 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.079 like it was going to be the most successful in regards to bringing in players. 282 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:15.039 But he'll be fond at Arkansas, but it ain't Kentucky, and he 283 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.240 you know, he won't have like the you know, it's one thing to 284 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.559 have in ale money, and it's one thing to have, uh, you 285 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:23.559 know, a high you know, high paid salary, which he's going to 286 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:29.519 have. And they've got a they've got a good fan base. But when 287 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.720 you're selling Arkansas and you're selling Kentucky, there's a big difference there, regardless 288 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.400 of who you are. And I feel like maybe that, I mean, 289 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.000 I just I think that probably kind of crept up in his mind in the 290 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.599 last couple of days, that like, yeah, you know, I'll probably 291 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:52.519 you know, I'll probably be able to to win. But he's taking a 292 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.200 step back, no doubt about it. And to be fair to Arkansas, 293 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.480 I mean, there are I mean Kentucky, as much as it pains me 294 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.880 to say, I mean, it's just different. It's I still believe it's 295 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:03.759 the best job in the country, and that mean anybody would want to run 296 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.400 to take the job, because there's a lot that comes with it that would 297 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:12.200 you know, Like there's some reaction from the Kentucky fans that I've seen online 298 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.319 that Scott Drew is somebody they wouldn't want because they truly believe that that they 299 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:22.000 would eat him alive, like he wouldn't be at Like there's no way he 300 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:23.960 could handle what comes with that job. And I kind of believe that. 301 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.839 So anyways, that's the news that I guess became official right before the show 302 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.839 today. Cali Perry's on his way out. He's gone. He'll be announced 303 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:41.359 tomorrow morning at Arkansas. And now Kentucky can actually start reaching out to candidates, 304 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.200 which we'll get to some of those candidates who have clearly not been approached 305 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.920 but already making it seem as if they have no interest at all. That 306 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.079 includes Nat OAHs, Jay Wright, even Dan Hurley after last night's championship game, 307 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.400 So we'll get into that. Also, Pat Kelsey is going to be 308 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:02.480 on the ACC network at four fifteen. Uh, I believe we're gonna at 309 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.640 least I think I'll be able to pipe that in and uh, we can 310 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.480 hear from coach Kelsey and with Yukon we'll talk about them on the other side, 311 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:14.400 because I still feel like they're dominance. Is it's it's not. I 312 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:18.680 don't think people realize just how crazy it is to see what they did, 313 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.799 not just this year, but last year too. And I don't see any 314 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.039 signs of them slowing down at all. So again, loaded the rest of 315 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:26.480 the way. If you want to join us, you can. Five O 316 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.920 two five seven one seventy nine hundred is the number. If you want to 317 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.839 give us a call. Five O two six five three zero seven ninety is 318 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.079 the ln N federal credit you need tex Line keep it locked right here on 319 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:40.599 Sports Talk seven ninety. I gotta be honest with you. I I know 320 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:44.200 that song, I don't know who sings it. I feel like I haven't 321 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:48.359 heard that song since I was in gosh, maybe my senior year of high 322 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.599 school, maybe even junior year. This is cross Fade so far away, 323 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.480 Cross Face play them a few different times, Okay, I remember the name 324 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.519 is to say what year this came out? Because now I'm just not that 325 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:06.119 it matters at all, not that anybody on this planet cares other than me. 326 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.559 Two thousand and four, Yeah, that was my junior year of high 327 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:15.799 school. So was this a big hit like radio play or what I believe 328 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.359 it was? It was a hit on rock radio. It wasn't as big 329 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.319 as their song Cold or so Cold whatever on that same album. Well, 330 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.279 the reason I ask is because it was such a like it was a big 331 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:27.559 All I know is a lot of guys, a lot of people when I 332 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.920 went to high school listened to it and that was kind of there like that 333 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.039 that genre was big at that time. It was, And I just what 334 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.960 stood out to me is that I remember it, but I do not think 335 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.559 I've heard it in twenty years. And this band, after their second album 336 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.319 pretty much faded into oblivion. It still exists and they haven't put out anything 337 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:47.559 new in a long term. It makes it make more sense as far as 338 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:49.359 you know, why I've never heard you know, they's just kind of a 339 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.920 distant memory. Good stuff there, all right. It's coffee and company. 340 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.839 We are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging 341 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:00.440 out with us as we take you up till six o'clock. If you want 342 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:03.200 to join us on the show, you can five oh two five seven one 343 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.599 seventy nine hundred. That is the number to give us a call text line 344 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.799 five O two sixty five three zero seven ninety. So look, last night's 345 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:15.960 National championship game, Yukon did what they tend to do is even when they're 346 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:22.960 playing really good teams like Prdue, like Alabama, they just they never I 347 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:29.400 mean think about a lull for Yukon. I can't remember seeing one. And 348 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.400 what I mean by that is like a drought or like a stretch of play 349 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.599 where the momentum was really going in the other direction. Yeah, you'll see 350 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:38.039 a little run here and there, maybe a quick, you know, six 351 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.160 to zero, eight to zero run from another team. But this Yukon team, 352 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:48.799 they're so consistent and just so sound in every aspect. Like I don't 353 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.400 know what their weaknesses. I think their thirty zero run against Illinois pretty much 354 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.039 solidified who they are as a team compared to the rest of college basketball. 355 00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:02.240 And you may never see it ever again as far as how they dominated these 356 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.319 last two tournaments. But that runs specifically that you referenced, there's no way 357 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.759 that will ever happen again in the tournament. I mean it was against a 358 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:11.680 good team too. I mean that's it's not like Illinois world beaters, but 359 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.720 they were the second best Big Ten team sure Purdue or outside of Purdue. 360 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.680 So as I mentioned, I don't think they have really any weakness. But 361 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:22.960 also I don't really know what it is. I'm fascinated by them as a 362 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:29.680 basketball junkie because they're good at everything, but they're not great at really anything, 363 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.880 right, Like, they're I think they're physical. I think they play, 364 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:34.960 you know, really good defense as a team, but I mean it's 365 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.839 not freak athletes out there. They've got enough size, but I mean they've 366 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.160 got good size, by the way, but you know, so does everybody 367 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.880 else. To be honest with you, you know, their point guard love 368 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:49.400 his game to transfer from Loyal and Marymount, then Rutgers and then at Yukon 369 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:53.240 Cam Spencer is that his name? Yeah, I mean, like, but 370 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.759 he's not somebody that like from a talent perspective, you're like, well, 371 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.839 what are you gonna do? And then Stefan Castle, I think is believed 372 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:04.759 to be their their best, their best and being prospect. Yeah, he's 373 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:08.119 a top ten player from last year's freshman class, and he'll get drafted really 374 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.599 high because he's talented, has upside and this draft is really weak. But 375 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.839 I mean he's not to me, I don't know what his strength is. 376 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.319 So it sounds like I'm acting like they're not that good. I just I 377 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:26.079 can't think of any team that reminds me of this team where you're so solid 378 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.720 to you know, between solid two really good at everything and it. But 379 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.440 it's not one. It's not it's not driven by one player, right, 380 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.400 like they're big guy who by the way, you know, it's a good 381 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.160 matchup between those two guys. But early on he was getting it taken to 382 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:42.759 him, right, one of the best big the big one of the best 383 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:48.960 interior defenders in the country was you know, getting abused by by Zach Edie. 384 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.480 And if you think I'm joking about just no longer being able to remember 385 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.039 anybody's name, John, I'm not kidding you. Like it, maybe I 386 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.880 may need to get like a brain scan or something, because I mean, 387 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:03.599 I I know these people's names. But Donovan Klingon y yeah, Klingon yeah. 388 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.640 And you know he's the reason why Parlay didn't hit last night. Oh 389 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.000 way, he didn't go over thirteen and a half and he wasn't even really 390 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.319 that close. He only had nine I think it's not good. I hate 391 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.400 to hear that, but but either way, he's a good player. But 392 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.880 like they're they're just I don't know, man. Like I think what makes 393 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:25.599 it so scary for the rest of college basketball is because you're not watching any 394 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:30.240 individual and thinking, well, it's a once in a lifetime talent. No. 395 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.079 I mean, they're good, but Dan Hurley seems like he's gonna be 396 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:40.240 able to replicate what he's doing right now the last couple of years, and 397 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:44.119 that's a scary thing for everybody else. But their dominance was I mean, 398 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.799 I mean, they showed the stat he had. They had the one plus 399 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.519 one point differential and that was the most in the history of the NSAA tournament 400 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.920 after I think the second most was ninety six Kentucky team they mentioned, Yeah, 401 00:26:53.960 --> 00:27:00.200 so the the points, you know, the point differential per game in 402 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.279 the tournament for Yukon was twenty three point three, I believe is what I 403 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.119 see what I see right now. And then the second most dominant team was 404 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.559 North Carolina in two thousand and nine, which was a really good team with 405 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:17.599 Hansboro with then Yukon twenty twenty three was at twenty So if you look at 406 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.640 I mean just the overall I mean, this is just seeing this list. 407 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.200 Todd Furman posted it last night. Their twelve tournament games in the last two 408 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:33.079 years, which of course led to two national championships. Alabama and Purdue played 409 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.839 them within fifteen and fourteen. Northwestern played in within seventeen. They beat Statson 410 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.599 by thirty nine. They beat San Diego State by thirty Illinois by twenty five. 411 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.799 Could have been worse, but last year the closest game they had was 412 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.839 against Miami, who is actually the team that has played them the closest throughout 413 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.359 both tournaments, which was thirteen. I mean, they beat San Diego State 414 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.799 in the championship game by seventeen. They beatn Zaga by twenty eight, Arkansas 415 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.240 by twenty three, Saint Mary's by fifteen, Iona by twenty four. They're 416 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.480 just dominant. And it's not like we've never seen it before and we'll never 417 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.079 see it again. As far as two teams going back to back or a 418 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.400 team going back to back winning two consecutive championships, I mean, it's rare. 419 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:11.799 It hadn't happened since Florida did it, and I'm not I'm not predicting 420 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.559 that, you know, it becomes some you know, common thing that you 421 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.400 see because it's just I mean, for exactly one of the things that kind 422 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.599 of makes it even more when you're when you're the number one seed and you're 423 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:30.599 the favorite, like you're nobody's gonna nobody's gonna give you credit for like nobody 424 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.640 expected you to do it, like you weren't, you're not an underdog. 425 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.839 But also to know that they're the first number one overall seed to win the 426 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.640 national championship since Louisville won it in twenty thirteen, I mean, that shows 427 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.960 you that it doesn't doesn't always work out that way. But not only did 428 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.119 they go in here is the number one overall seed, they dominated the entire 429 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:51.200 tournament. And again I I just get the sense that the formula that they've 430 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:55.200 got role in there at at Yukon is is not something that you're going I 431 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:59.200 mean, will they be as good next year? I don't know. Nobody 432 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.640 really knows. We don't know what the roster's going to look like. But 433 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.400 Dan Hurley lost I think it was his four of his top five scorers from 434 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.559 last year and still was able to you know, develop guys that were already 435 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:14.920 there do well in the portal and recruit one elite freshman and Stefan Castle and 436 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.920 look at what they did. So I guess now the question is how long 437 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.279 is he going to be there? I don't see him leaving at all. 438 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:30.799 I just don't. But I think asking a coach that night, any answer 439 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.880 you get, it's kind of like, you know, what do you expect 440 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.119 him to say? Right? I mean, what would you expect Dan Hurley 441 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.960 to say when he was asked about Kentucky. I mean, I guess he 442 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:48.319 could say, heck, no, not a chance in hell, But you'd 443 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.640 also have to know that like that was always going to be the answer regardless, 444 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:56.359 just because in that moment. I mean, imagine celebrating back to back 445 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:02.359 national championships at a at a place like Yukon. That is now. I 446 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:07.279 mean, how are they not the premier program in the sport? Because all 447 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.559 the stuff that makes you know, Kentucky a better job, which again it 448 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:15.640 is the Kentucky's a better program, Carolina is a better pro But that's the 449 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:21.720 things you'd have to cite to put the other programs ahead of Yukon are things 450 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.640 that happened sixty years ago. In some instances, I think that's what it 451 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.880 is. It's that they have no substantial history past the late nineties. And 452 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:37.880 the reason all of the other programs have bigger fan bases, bigger reach, 453 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:45.279 bigger brand, move the needle more is because their fan bases are bigger and 454 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:51.000 it's been something that's gone on for decades upon decades, Right, So, 455 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.119 you know, Yukon's only na because that they're they're kind of the young kid 456 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.599 on the block when it comes to elite basketball programs with a bunch of national 457 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.279 championships. It's that's only that's only flaw and one thing that did not get 458 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.799 mentioned throughout the entire tournament run that I saw, And I think it's easy 459 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:14.920 to just kind of forget this, but Yukon did something that I don't think 460 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:22.759 anybody else would have done. Because we all know how much football drives college 461 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.079 athletics. We love college basketball more than anybody. We love college football too, 462 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:33.759 But like college football is the only real priority for the vast majority of 463 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:40.880 high level universities. It's not that they don't care about the other sports. 464 00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:42.720 It's not that they don't. It's not that they don't, you know, 465 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:48.079 support them, It's not they don't care. But football is its own world 466 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:56.200 essentially in most athletic departments. So when the shakeup happened with the American, 467 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.400 yeah, with the American Athletic Conference basically becoming a weird mixture of former Big 468 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.839 East teams that you know, needed a new home because the Big East was 469 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:07.799 kind of you know what, Big East football going away, all that kind 470 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.720 of stuff. They were one of the last people left, right, I 471 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.839 mean, a lot of the Big East schools got out. In fact, 472 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.480 the only schools I can think of in the Big East at the time Louisville 473 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:24.440 left that aren't in another league is UCF. I'm sorry, not UCF. 474 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:30.279 South Florida, Memphis or Memphis was never in the Big East. So Yukon 475 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.799 got left behind. Louisville took Yukon spot in the ACC. So Yukon ended 476 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.119 up, you know, being in the American for however many years it was. 477 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.119 And it's because of football, because you're gonna get even if it's not 478 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:43.880 you know, even if it's not a grant of rights deal that's got a 479 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:51.799 humongous share like you see in the ACC, the SEC Big Ten, you 480 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.079 still have a football revenue share from an American Athletic conference that is money that 481 00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.079 you can't just not have. But they also knew what do we do. 482 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.279 We're Yukon, we're basketball. We've had some success in football, playing the 483 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.680 BCS Bowl Game not even that long ago. But what are we doing in 484 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:13.599 this league that sucks? That weekends are brand when we thrive and excel in 485 00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.759 basketball women's college basketball, we own the sport. Men's college basketball. We've 486 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.200 been pretty damn good regardless of conference affiliation. So what are we doing in 487 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:28.720 this league just because we need football to be in a league so we can 488 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.079 take some revenue money. I give them a lot of credit for knowing who 489 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:37.039 they are and doing something nobody else would and paying seventeen million dollars to leave 490 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:42.680 the American Athletic Conference go back to the Big East, and you know, 491 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:49.200 I guess regain their identity. And then football think is independent. There's thought 492 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:53.640 that it may not even like survive but and that's unfortunate, but football does 493 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:59.440 not do anything in Connecticut like basketball does. So they're independent. You know, 494 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.440 they're role in whether they got Jim More as their coach now, but 495 00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.759 like I think they're willing to like, we're not gonna sit here and let 496 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:10.119 our basketball programs start to slide and slip because we you know, we won 497 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.559 our football team who's never really been that good overall. Like, I just 498 00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.760 think what they that seemed like a no brainer to everybody, because yeah, 499 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.320 Yukon belongs in the biggiest they don't belong in the American But most schools wouldn't 500 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.360 have the balls to do that because of the financial I mean again, they 501 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.519 get no TV money from football Yukon none, which is a huge part of 502 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.760 the you know, annual money that you need to bring in to keep these 503 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:40.480 programs alive. And they also paid seventeen million to leave the American Athletic Conference. 504 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.239 And would Dan Hurley be their coach if they were in the American Athletic 505 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.480 Conference, Probably because at the time they hired him, it wouldn't have been 506 00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:55.000 that tough to get. But I think the conversation about but honestly Hurley was 507 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.840 there, would he be able to do what he's doing now? I don't 508 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.599 know, Maybe we'll never know, but that decision, whoever made it, 509 00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:07.840 rather it be a president athletic director, I mean it, it is something 510 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:09.360 that I don't know if anybody else would have done it, and their circumstances 511 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.400 are different because again, like there's so clearly a basketball brand in football, 512 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:19.440 it's kind of like always been whatever. But could they not have joined the 513 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.639 Big East FCS league? I mean, I guess it would have been a 514 00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.519 step down, but like, could they not have done that? And you 515 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.519 know, saved them? Question? It's a good question actually because I don't 516 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.480 I didn't even realize the big I know, there's like Villanova is apparently a 517 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:38.239 really good FCS program. I guess private schools do they have here? I 518 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:44.199 think when you go to that level, you you are at a point where 519 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:49.360 you could still have your program, but like you're cutting everything and meaning like 520 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.800 salaries and positions, and at that point it just becomes where you're trying not 521 00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.280 to lose money in football. Yeah, that's true, you know, And 522 00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.760 that's why a lot of those schools have never made that kind of like jump 523 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.280 to go to that level because it's just it's really not it's not financially worth 524 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.280 it. Idaho from the Mountain West for a long time, they're now FCS, 525 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.079 Are they really? I didn't know that they have been for a few 526 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:14.559 years now. Interesting, So again shout out to Yukon. I'm not a 527 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.719 fan by any means, but you know, I have a hard time thinking 528 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.480 that many many years down the line when I think of great runs in college 529 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:22.960 basketball, a sport that I care so much about. I mean, they're 530 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.880 going to be up there just because of not only the fact that they now 531 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.760 have six titles since nineteen ninety nine, but they won back to back for 532 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:35.000 the first time in a long time, and they dominated so and again. 533 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.639 I just think what makes it seem even more scary for the rest of college 534 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.280 basketball, as I've said, is the fact that I don't see these last 535 00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.360 two championship teams for Yukon being something that like, well, that's a once 536 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:52.039 in a lifetime type of duo or a talent. I mean, these guys 537 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.039 are good, and make no mistake about it, but I think Dan Hurley 538 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:59.559 can find a caliber player and keep this thing rolling. All right, we'll 539 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:01.800 talk about Hurley's comments last night. I let you guys hear them and keep 540 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.199 this thing rolling along again. It is Coffee and Company. We are fuel 541 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.559 by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety so. Each day that passes 542 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.920 here. In the last few weeks, there's more and more names you're seeing 543 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:17.400 that are entering the transfer portal and as far as college basketball, but it 544 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.360 feels like the last couple of days you've seen more names that you're familiar with, 545 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.159 right Like, It's not a guy that you see averaged seventeen points a 546 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:30.559 game at a little mid major. It's, you know, somebody like Robbie 547 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.320 Avila, who was the Indiana State star who had a lot of wild nicknames, 548 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.679 and all of them I heard were pretty good. And he's in the 549 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:43.320 portal and I just just I mean Indiana State. And by the way, 550 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.440 did you hear Indiana State may hire? Is it Tom Crean? No? 551 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.280 Man similar though as far as a guy that is out of the game but 552 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:54.480 head coach for a long time, Bob Huggins, Oh yeah, I mean, 553 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.440 well, I hate to say that they hate. That's my reaction. 554 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.960 I mean, I get your reaction. I just you know, and I 555 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:05.239 don't know if it will end up happening. But he's pushing for he's pushing 556 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.679 to talk to them about the job. And the latest report I saw, 557 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.360 I believe out of terror HOAt was that they're going to listen to him, 558 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:15.760 so he'd be somebody they would never be able to get without his circumstance, 559 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:22.559 and I didn't know this until Josh Shirtz's name became more known throughout the process. 560 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.159 For Louisville Search is that they have no money, like they don't they 561 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.079 they mountain, the Mountain Mountain. It's the Missouri Valley. It's a good 562 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.280 basketball league. I mean again, it's it's not you know, sexy, 563 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.760 big name brands in college basketball. But there's college basketball tradition in that league 564 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.039 that is really strong schools that have have had, you know, basketball programs 565 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.199 that they are very much invested in for generations. Probably always going to be 566 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.000 one big league for the most part. But either way, you know, 567 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.159 Indiana State in that league has the lowest amount of money they can pay coaches 568 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.519 and you know travelers, you know that travel budget, that kind of stuff. 569 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.639 It's the lowest in that league. And it's not even close. And 570 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.559 I don't really close my mind, I wouldn't have guessed that. Yeah, 571 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.880 but I think and I don't really know even what goes into that. I 572 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.760 don't know if it's just because there's a budget that I mean, is it 573 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.159 is it a small school it's fairly small. Yeah, I only have the 574 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.760 Federal prison where they have all the death row in mates in Tara Hope. 575 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.280 Really maybe that's where all the money's going. Tara Tarah Hoad's a small town, 576 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.199 isn't it. Yeah, get right on the western border of Vendio. 577 00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.079 So either way, I just assume that he's going to follow Josh Shirtz, 578 00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:34.360 but I don't know, Maybe maybe he's I mean, he's gonna get interest 579 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.920 from a lot. I mean, it would be very like him following his 580 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.400 coach to Saint Louis, a guy that apparently everybody who knows Josh shirts and 581 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:44.920 his coach or played for him loves him, thinks he's great. So I'd 582 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.199 say that wouldn't be a big shocker. But then again, if you see 583 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:53.880 the schools involved that are big names like Louisville or Kentucky even I mean, 584 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:57.519 would he really go to Saint Louis rather than going to play for one of 585 00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.679 those bigger name brands that not only he could have more success with, but 586 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.960 like he could probably make more money. So anyways, that's one of the 587 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.360 many names that has entered the portal today, And wouldn't be shocked if we 588 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.199 find out that Louisville's involved, because they got a lot of spots to fill, 589 00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.599 and I'm looking forward to seeing how this roster all comes together for Pat 590 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:22.199 Kelsey. All Right, so my cousin writes in and tells me, and 591 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.000 I'm I'm I think this is good. This is good for me to hear. 592 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.480 But I mentioned just not being able to remember any names anymore. Like 593 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.320 I don't think I've lost that much of my brain power, but I used 594 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.800 to be. It's not just that I can't remember names. I used to 595 00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.719 be the name guy. Like if I met you five years ago, I 596 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.000 didn't see you again until then, I may remember your name, like I'm 597 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.800 just it was a weird thing that I don't It doesn't it doesn't give me 598 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.800 any added value as a human being. I can't monetize that skill that I 599 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.679 had. It's just something I just was able to do. And now I've 600 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.920 gone from being somebody that I would consider really strong in that department to now 601 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.960 I'm awful. But my cousin, he tells me it's because I have multiple 602 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.239 kids, from zero kids to three kids. When it comes to names and 603 00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.400 numbers and stats, you know, you can go from rain Man to Forrest 604 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.360 Gump. So maybe that's maybe that's what it is. Do you ever call 605 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.719 your kids the wrong name. I mean, I know they're opposite sexes, 606 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.840 but no, I don't. But as far as just like the names of 607 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.679 people that I mean, I don't interact with any I mean, now I'm 608 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:22.400 gonna sound like a weirdo, and I don't interact with other kids that aren't 609 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.719 mine. But I know, like all of my son's friends at daycare's name. 610 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.119 I know all of my daughter's classmates in her class like, I know 611 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:35.719 their names. So maybe just balancing all that has just, you know, 612 00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.800 made it slip. And another part of it is that like when it comes 613 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:43.480 to just like athletes, guys in the portal or recruit as I get older, 614 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.800 I just don't. I don't care as much about it, you know 615 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:46.880 what I mean, Like I don't. It's not something that I spend a 616 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.119 ton of time thinking about. So anyways, fellows, let me tell you 617 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.599 real quick about my friends over at the Louisville Men's Clinic, because I know 618 00:41:53.639 --> 00:42:00.079 there's many of you listening right now that have probably ruggle with the rectial dysfunction. 619 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.440 You know what to do? You don't know what to do about it? 620 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:04.559 Right You're thinking, Okay, what can I can I do? Some 621 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.639 home remedy. Is there some you know, some other you know, some 622 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.679 I don't know. I'm sure the others have tried to google how you can 623 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.840 improve that and probably not had much luck. 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All right, So, well right back 633 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.119 in here in the four o'clock hour, and we're going to try to get 634 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.639 to this live ACC Network interview with Pat Kelsey at four fifteen. I'm going 635 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.119 to see if I can track that down and let you guys hear from Coach 636 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.119 Kelsey. But the Kentucky stuff. I got a question I'm gonna throw out 637 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:12.960 there. I'm gonna throw it to John because he's he's objective rights, because 638 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.599 I know Kentucky fans will answer it a certain way. I know Louisville fans 639 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.159 will answer it a certain way. But there's something that apparently Mitch Barnhart and 640 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.360 his team at UK are fighting to keep Calip Perry from being able to do. 641 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.519 And I don't know if it's fair or foul on their end. We'll 642 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.920 get to that and a lot more, and we'll let you hear the amount 643 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.079 of coaches that have already at least at this point, publicly said they have 644 00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.400 no interest in Kentucky. Stick with us. It's Coffee and company. We 645 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:43.760 are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety