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Art. Today is Tuesday, June twentieth, twenty and twenty three. Thank
you so much for joining me. We were off yesterday celebrating June tenth,
which is the federal holiday that commemorates the quote unquote end of slavery. I
put that in quotations because as we all know, as we have been instructed,
as I have been instructed by my dear friend and mentor and who I
consider to be the historian of our people, doctor Carl Mack. In fact,
the way I met doctor Carl Mack was on an episode of Roland Martin
Unfiltered about two years ago, where he informed us, and this was the
first time I had ever come to this knowledge. He let us know that
June tenth was not the end of slavery for the United States of America.
It was the end of slavery for the state of Texas. June nineteenth,
eighteen sixty five, General Gordon Granger came to the shores of Galveston, Texas
with some ten thousand Union soldiers, of which I just learned yesterday. In
the year of our Lower twenty twenty three, six thousand of those soldiers were
Black Union soldiers. And I just want you to pause for a moment and
consider what it was like for black people who were enslaved in Texas to see
six thousand black Union soldiers come with their weapons at the ready, telling these
demented confederates to let our people go. Historians state that the celebrations began immediately
in the state of Texas June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, and those celebrations
spread across the country. It was such a momentous and I mean earth shattering
moment for the state of Texas, but particularly the black people there to see
the power of the black Union soldiers under the leadership of General Gordon Granger.
Right, you know, all the other components that led to that moment,
we recognize that, but owned that day. At that moment, black people
started celebrating because they saw something that they never saw before, black men with
power telling the people who were abusing them to let our people go. And
so those celebrations started to spread all over the country. And in fact,
I first learned about June tenth, probably going close to a decade ago,
when I was living in Boston, Massachusetts, and we went to a celebration
in the park in Roxbury, Roxbury, Massachusetts, one of the most exhilarating
and enjoyable, I mean, the blackest. It was just it was a
good day to be black when I learned about Juneteenth in the first place,
And it just shows you how far those celebrations spread. And so because of
what happened on June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, those celebrations spread across the
country. But it was not until December six, eighteen sixty five, that
slavery ended for the entire nation with the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment. Between
those times, between that time, between June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five and
December six, eighteen sixty five, some two hundred and twenty five thousand black
people were still enslaved. And so as the nation celebrates and commemorates Juneteenth,
just keep in mind the liberation did not come for two hundred and twenty five
thousand black people, more black people, until December six, eighteen sixty five.
I'll talk more about that later in today's episode, because it was a
really bad day for Confederates and for black conservatives. We'll talk about that in
a moment, but first, Doctor Peter is a world renowned pediatrician virologist,
scientists who developed additional vaccines that were used in the underdeveloped are rather overexploited nations
during COVID nineteen. Well respected and roll respected amongst his peers, amongst other
scientists. Over the weekend, if you were online at all, are plugged
into the news at all, you saw what happened with Robert Kennedy Junior,
Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk dog piling on top of this scientists because well,
he called out Joe Rogan. He called out Joe Rogan for hosting and
amplifying the anti VAXX message of Robert Kennedy Junior. In response, Joe Rogan
took to social media and challenged him to a debate, said, come on
my show, Come on my show and debate Robert Kennedy Junior, who is
neither a scientist nor a smart man. And you don't really debate with people
who are conspiracy theorist because it amplifies the conspiracy theories. But that didn't stop
Elon Musk from chiming in and egging it on. That didn't stop people like
Tim Pool offering one hundred thousand dollars for the debate, and then the pool
of money began to grow further and further further, bigger and bigger and bigger.
You had more and more conservatives who wanted to see this debate happen between
an actual scientist and Robert Kennedy Junior. I want to play a clip from
MSNBC medi Hassan who interviewed Peter Hotez Sunday night in response to this challenge to
debate. RFK has contributed to a culture, a vaccine misinformation culture that has
led to the deaths, as you say, hundreds of thousands of lives.
And yet he's the one being celebrated by tech billionaires like Musk and Jack Dorsey,
while you're being smeared and defamed. And I would say, I don't
know if you've agreed to debate or not. My advice is not too And
people might find that surprising because I wrote a book about debate. But I
just think there's a time and a place for a debate. I don't think
historian of World War two should debate a Holocaust denial. I just think that's
my analogy here, Like I don't think these debates between experts and cranks do
anything other than elevate the cranks. Well, you're absolutely right. I mean,
there are certain things you'd debate. I understand what a debate about eighteenth
century Enlightenment philosophy is in debating Rousseau and Bishop Bishop Barkley, I understand what
political debates are. But in science, we don't typically do debates. What
we do is we write scientific papers. We present our findings in front of
a critical audience of our peers to solicit their their input in suggestions. But
it's one doesn't typically debate science. Maybe the one off discussion of evolution versus
creationism and that sort of thing, But that's not what we do in science
exactly correct. You write papers, you submit them for peer review, and
if it's a review and you accept it, it's put it published in a
journal, and then you go to a conference and you can debate with scientists
about any disagreements they have remaining about your about your position. One of the
best responses I saw to this was across social media. There are a couple
of people who said, listen, if RFK really wants to debate the validity
of what doctor Peter Hotez is saying, write an article, not an article
to be published in mainstream media, but a scientific article, and publish it
in a journal and let it be peer reviewed. We have processes for scientific
debate. It isn't going on Joe Rogan Show and discussing it with Robert Kennedy
Jr. Who was an anti vaxer. And I absolutely love how Matti put
it. Medi Hassan put it. He said, you would not ask a
World War Two historian to debate a Holocaust denier. What common ground based in
truth can they actually find? There is no common ground because the Holocaust denier
denies truth. Anti vaxers deny truth. But this is the nature of our
times in which we live. People with the most money are some of the
dumbest people in the history of our planet. And you have to forgive me
because my language and my rhetoric towards these morons has changed and will get even
more pointed. I used to spend a lot of time trying to elevate the
discourse by saying things like intentionally optus, when I really meant they're dumb.
I used to say things like they're willfully ignorant, when I really meant that
they were stupid. And I feel like we've wasted a lot of time with
these anti vacs morons, and to the point where we've seen hundreds of thousands
of people die from the pandemic because these anti vactors like Robert Kennedy Junior invested
their time and their money into spreading vaccine hesitation, vaccine hesitancy right, just
outright fear and rejection. And now the saddest thing about it is we are
on the losing side. The people who actually follow the science, the people
who realize my expertise is X, Y and Z. That person's expertise is
science. This entire community's expertise is science. And we have scientific consensus amongst
the vast majority of scientists across the globe that the vaccine was effective and safe.
We have trials of billions of people who took the vaccine, and the
prevailing claims of problems with the vaccine come through an unverified source, theirs the
Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System, which does not verify a single claim, but
the claims of scientists have been verified by peer reviewed research. I'm sorry,
we do not have time to coddle dumb people anymore. We are empowering their
agenda. I know when I said intentional. When I say the phrase intentionally
optus, I do mean something different than just dumb people. I do mean
that they are intentionally being stupid for the purposes of the political agenda. But
we don't even have time for that distinction anymore, because we really do need
the world to understand that there is a base, there is a base of
stupidity in this species, on this planet of people who are either doing it
on purpose for financial gain, or they have been duped so long that they
are so far gone that I'm sorry, I don't have time to coddle you
either, because people are still dying from the pandemic, and these are the
same people. This is the same group of people. The Ven diagram of
anti vaxers and flat earthers is probably a full circle. The Ven diagram between
anti vaxers, between a flat earthers, and between client deniatives. It's probably
close to at least a seventy five percent overlap. The very worst of our
society have galvanized around the richest people on the planet, and they are spreading
the worst conspiracies imaginable. So forgive me if this seems a little harsh,
but we don't have time to debate dummies. We got to defeat them for
the sake of HU manage them. Do I wonder if you recall the video
of the quote unquote father who went into the Lego store and went off on
the employees because they had on Pride flag pins. The Lego groups, yeah,
supports Valgy. So the question is, why are you all in here
with those pins on? Do you think children care about what man subs at
home and what girl eats? Do you think that I just won't I need
to prime that up in your memory banks keep that in mind for the rest
of the day's episode, because yesterday was a really difficult day for the guy
who created that video. But before we get there, I have to discuss
another not so intelligent person who has a lot of power. Donald Trump went
on Fox News Brett Bear last night and all but confessed. I'm sorry,
it looks like he confessed to every single thing he has been indicted for by
special counsel Jack Smith. Listen to this exchange between Fox news host Brett bar
and Donald Trump, and tell me if you hear the same confession that I
hear. According to the indictment, you were here at Bedminster on July twenty
one, twenty twenty one, after you're no longer president, and you were
recorded saying that you had a document to telling a planned attack on another country
that was prepared by the US military for you when you were president, the
Iran attack plan. You remember that, ready, you were courts in a
document. I had lots of paper, I had copies of newspaper articles,
I had copies of magazines. I said specifically, quote you're quoted on the
recording saying the document was secret, adding that you could have declassified it while
you were president. But quote, now I can't. You know this is
still secret, highly confidential. And the indictment sites of the recording and the
testimony from people in the room saying you showed it to people there that day.
So you say on this on tape says just the opposite that you can't
classify. So why have it? What I said? What I said that
I couldn't beat classify it now that because I wasn't president. I never made
any bones about that when I'm not president, I can't eat lassify. You
said that, I said no, no, I said I couldn't had that
class of document read. There was no document. That was a massive amount
of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And it may
have been held up or may not, but that was not a document.
I didn't have a document per se. There was nothing to do classify.
These were newspaper stories, magazine stories, and article. I'm that last part
is basically him trying to undo what he just did, which was to admit
again. I mean, they already have it on recording right the and and
I'm not one to really get Fox News much credit, but credit to Brett
Bear for being able to follow Donald Trump's fast talking, because Donald Trump is
so used to being able to fast talk his way out of situations. Um,
but this is not a situation that he could fast talk himself out of.
In fact, he's digging himself even deeper. So now his claim is
that there were no documents, This is there were just newspaper articles and clippings.
That's the way he's trying to get out of what he just admitted to,
which was this part what I said, what I said that I couldn't
beat classify it. Now, that's because I wasn't president. I never made
any months about that. When I'm not president, I can't eat classify.
You said that, I said, no, No. The problem for Donald
Trump is that there is an audio recording that he himself admits to showing them
a document that he had not declassified while he was president. Now he just
confirmed that he knows that he could not declassify that document because well, he
wasn't president at the time, and once he realized what he did, he
decided to say, oh, wait a minute, No, there were no
documents. It was just newspaper clippings. There's no document. That was a
massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And
it may have been held up or may not, but that was not a
document. I didn't have a document per se. There was nothing to declassimate.
These were newspaper stories, magazine stories, and article. I'm just now
not that this part is particularly important, because well, he's already admitted on
the previous audio that he had classified documents that he was getting ready to show
the people. But Donald Trump, really, if there was nothing but newspaper
articles and magazine articles and clippings that you were referring to. Why would you
have even brought up the conversation of the inability to declassify said magazine articles.
No one thinks to discuss declassifying articles from Time magazine or Newsweek. You only
discuss declassifying classified documents. But is this not the best example of the Dunning
Krueger effect where you are not even aware of how dumb you are, but
you think you are an expert. Is that the theme of today's episode?
Because is not Joe Rogan and Robert Kennedy. Well, Robert Kennedy Jr.
He's a grifting scumbag. But Joe Rogan is probably another great example of the
Dunning Kruger effect. But Donald Trump takes the prize when he is he really
believes and his life the ease of his life. No one has ever told
him, No, He's never been corrected. His life has fooled him him
into thinking he is smarter than he is. And he can't even handle Brett
Bear on Fox News. So now, what do you think he's going to
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Um real quick. I gotta give a shout out to Andy from Ohio.
Andy, thank you so much. As I'm preparing today's episode of recording,
she sent me a cash app for a happy belated Juneteenth. Now see that's
an ally. Okay, shout out to all the white allies who sent black
people cash apps for Juneteenth. I saw it. I saw would do that
old Twitter, and I didn't share my cash app because I was like,
you know whatever. But they're like, if you really want to support a
black friend for Juneteenth, send them a cash app. I guess Andy saw
that from somewhere else on Twitter and said, you know what, let me
do that for brother Ben. So I thank you so much, Andy,
cash app BPD twenty eighteen. If you're so inclined, I let's talk a
little bit about twenty twenty four. This past weekend, I did an episode
of Click Baby Political thirst Trap with Marcus Farrell and Mondale Mayor Mondale Robinson,
and we are looking forward to having doctor Cornell West be on. We wanted
to have him on this past Sunday, but it looks like we're gonna have
to go for another Sunday episode to get him on. We came back together
because he announced that he's running for president and now he's running not with the
People's Party, which is thank you, doctor West, but running with the
Green Party. Here's a clip of a Julia Baraka, who is a former
vice presidential candidate for the Green Party, as he discussed the twenty twenty four
election with Brianna Joy Gray of The Hill Rising. And I want you to
listen to this clip because this particular attitude. And I like brother Juma well
enough. I think he's a decent person, and I think his politics are
generally good on most issues. But this idea of accelerationism that is prevailing on
the left is detrimental to everyone. And I need you to hear this clip
that is going around making its rounds, and it is of Juma Baraka discussing
the fact that he would rather see Donald Trump win in twenty twenty four than
Joe Biden win in twenty twenty four. And this is the exact sentiment that
I have a deeply rooted problem again, because there is a fallacious assumption underneath
all of this, all of accelerationism, that what emerges out of the chaos
that comes through accelerationism, which is to allow the country and allow everything to
go down as fast as humanly possible so that something can emerge from the ashes.
Historically, have we ever seen a time when, in the face of
violence and war and destruction. Have we ever seen progress emerge from that?
Listen to this. Let Donald Trump come back again in twenty twenty four.
I believe in the people. I believe we're gonna survive a double Donald Trump.
Okay, I'm more concerned about surviving another Biden administration because it's for me,
the cutting edge of Leo fascism of the US isn't just the so called
Trump Trump bites. It is the neoliberal ruling clients that is completely captured state.
They are the cunning edge of a particular kind of fascism in this country,
the neoliberal Democrats. It's hard to argue with that, and I'm glad
I'm not in an ideological position where I want to go. I'm sorry,
but Donald Trump? Is he not a part of the ruling elite? And
at what point did we start believing that Republicans are not a part of the
ruling elite? Conservatives are not a part of the ruling elite? Rich billionaire
white men who can command the media the way they see fit. When did
they stop being a part of the ruling elite? Or is it God forbid
that they're rooting this analysis, this quote unquote analysis in the fact that the
word neoliberal contains liberal. Could it be that because nobody has performed neoliberalism better
than the Republican Party. In fact, it was brought to us in part
by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, right conservative across the pond and a conservative
in the White House of the United States of America. They brought neoliberal economic
control to this country. So when did we stop thinking that Conservatives and Republicans
who are the beneficiaries of neoliberal economic policy? But when do we stop believing
that they were actually a part of the ruling elite. Okay, so never
mind the logic being problematic at best, the accelerationism that's underneath that, and
the willingness to turn this country back over into the hands of fascists. Listen,
vothe for who you won't to, but please in your arguments, can
we at least agree that accelerationism is societal suicide? Like, why should we
make the assumption, the very dangerous assumption that if we turn this back over
into the hands of actual fascists who want to add on top of their neoliberal
fascism, they want to add on top of it democratic control. They do
not want democracy how is it rational to think that we would be able to
recover from people who have been strategically working on dismantling the mechanisms of democracy for
decades and now are in striking distance. You can again vote for who you
want to vote for, but please, let's let's not do it based on
fallacious arguments. Let's not do it by absolving the fascists who are at the
gate, who are actually in the system already, the people who are actively
working to suppress your vote, to suppress democracy, who are actively working calling
for the execution of gath and transgender people. Right, We're that's who we're
dealing with when we're discussing the modern Republican Party and the modern conservative movement.
They are actively advocating for the execution of the LGBTQIA community. And for us
to just casually say, oh, the bidens are a form of neoliberalism that
Republicans aren't, and then some we are we working with the same definition of
neoliberalism because neoliberalism is an economic paradigm. It is an economic system that every
part of the ruling elite benefits from, especially the Republican Party, who consistently
gives themselves tax breaks, two seventeen tax breaks, two trillion dollars worth of
tax breaks going to the wealthiest in this country. What type of systemic controls
do you think they employed with that? Do you think that they just went
home and went to the beach, are got into a submarine and went to
the bottom to try to go see the Titanic. Do you think they all
just did that with their money or did they employ and engage age in systemic
suppression of voters rights, in systemic oppression against the LGBTQYA community and the black
community. Do you think that these billionaires who took that two thousand and seventeen
tax break, do you think they just went home and decided, you know,
we have our money and we're just going to sit quietly over here because
we don't want to get involved in politics as the ruling elite. Now again,
we are making every effort that we can to get doctor Coronel West on
a couple of shows Click Baity. We're hoping to get him next Sunday,
this coming Sunday, the podcast. If I can get him on the podcast,
a certain will and most certainly own like it or not. With Rebecca
Zor and DJ Exclusive because we want to engage, We want to talk,
we want to discuss, and we want to discuss our concerns and listen to
his rebuttals to them and see exactly where he stands and let everyone hear him
for himself. I know you can hear him on other podcasts, but there
will be questions that we will ask that other people aren't asking. So we're
not afraid to engage with doctor West or with a third party candidate, because
one, I have so much respect for doctor West. But what I don't
have any respect for is accelerationism. I don't because it assumes that we have
time to recover from the destruction that will come when the fascists are given the
power. So let's go back to Juneteenth and the meltdown that happened across conservative
media, across the Confederacy. Charlie Kirk, who is the founder of Turning
Points You Sam, He is also the founder of Turning Points US A faith.
That last part is very important to keep that in mind. This Turning
Points USA and then there's Turning Points USA faith. This is what he said
on his Twitter timeline yesterday. He said, you should be working today,
not taking off for a CRT inspired federal holiday that competes with July fourth.
Then he went on, funny enough, can I just make an aside,
real quick, funny enough, these are the same people who are trying to
push Robert Kennedy Junior on the Democratic Party because the tweet before that says this
from Charlie Kirk quote RFK Junior is gaining real steam. The media is struggling
to censor him. He is challenging the Democratic Party from within. I just
want to throw that in there for a bonus for you guys to understand that
the guy who is being promoted by the likes of white supremacists adjacent alleged white
supremacists got a cover by butt right. Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon has even
come out for Robert Kennedy Junior. That's the guy that they want to be
the nominee for the Democratic Party. But I digress. So yesterday he Charlie
Kirk went even further and he said, if June tenth was really about emancipation,
why not September twenty second, eighteen sixty two when Lincoln issued the Emancipation
Proclamation. January he just starts doubling down on attacking June teenth, m I
played for you earlier a clip from back a few months ago when this black
father and I'm using air quotes there because people when they do these types of
stunts, they try to describe themselves in the most innocuous way possible. But
I played you the clip of the black father who went into the Lego store
and attacked verbally attacked the Lego employees because they were wearing flag pins. Listen
again to the small portion. The question is why are you all in here
with those pins on? Do you think children care about what man sucks at
home? What girl each vaginas? Do you think they can guess who that
black man works for? That quote unquote black father, because he described himself
as a black father, but he didn't identify himself as an employee of Turning
Points USA Faith. He's a contributor at Turning Points USA Faith. In fact,
the reason that video went viral was because Charlie Kirk shared it across all
of his social media and this black preacher by the name of John Ka Mantuqua.
I'm sorry, and I don't mispronounce this. If I mispronounce his last
name, it is not because I'm trying to be funny. It's because there's
a difficult name. Y'all know I have a hard time of names. But
Pastor John kay A Mantuqua was the guy who was in that video. Now,
okay, that was old news. I really just was joking yesterday when
I was saying that it was going to be a really hard time for black
conservatives, because here's the thing. If you're a black conservative and you get
your paycheck from these people who are alleged to white supremacist, white supremacist adjacent
certainly Nazi and fascist ad Jason, if you're getting your check from people who
hate black people so much that they would rather go to work on a federal
holiday than to take off a federal holiday because they just don't want to be
associated with that critical race theory inspired holiday, Yesterday had to be extremely difficult
for you because you had to sit back and watch your bosses just outright attack
your blackness. And you can't really say a whole lot unless you're willing to
risk your paycheck. So if you're I mean, and this is this is
me making the assumption that these these black conservatives like uh John reviend wool truth
r ev WU t r U th across social media. You know, I'm
going underneath the assumption that he actually is a black man, that he actually
does love his blackness, that he loves his black people. But then my
question to him that he blocked me for like two seconds later. I've never
been blocked so quick. I just asked them yesterday, like bro, brother
pastor, from one preacher to another, does your congregation of black people know
that your other boss believes this about their freedom, That he believes that we
should not celebrate Juneteenth, that he dismisses it as a CRT inspired holiday,
That he is a part of this cabal of white people who have made their
careers off of attacking wokeness. I'm really curious if that black preacher's black congregation
realizes that he is employed also by someone who hates blackness, who hates the
idea of being woke, which is just the nice way for them to save
the in word. In twenty and twenty three, I wonder because what has
happened is a lot of black voices in the conservative space have been amplified because
they agree with the homophobian. This is why I brought back the lego clip
Rev Wou Truth at Rev Woo Truth across social media became a sensation, a
star, I mean amongst black people, amongst conservatives and bunks. I mean,
because we've already discussed the intersection of the bigotry that they have come and
ground on right, and we've discussed how many times, how many times are
we going to see black people start to align with white supremacists because they have
an agreement on the homophobia and the transphobia. But days like June Tea,
which not even really the right holiday for us to celebrate in terms of the
actual end of slavery, but anything associated with blackness, anything that associates with
blackness, is under attacked by the very people who are employing people like Rev.
Wou Truth. Now he's a contributor over there. I don't know what
percentage of his income comes from it, but I do know what percentage of
his notoriety comes from it. All of it, all of it, Because
how many people even knew this guy existed before Charlie Kirk put him on his
shoulders and say, look, here's a black man who agrees with us.
Well, I wonder if his black congregation knows and I'm I'm not just trying
to come after that brother, because I'm sure he's a good black man.
I'm sure he loves his children just as much as I love my children.
I'm sure he loves the Lord as much as I love the Lord. But
I really do want to know if his black congregation realizes that he is working
for a person who cannot stand their blackness. Joe tenth is a really hard
day for Black Conservatives and Confederates. I wonder why they have that pain and
anguish in common. Patron stay tuned, everyone else will see them all.
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