1 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:12,919 The Benjamin Dixon Show is only possible with listeners support. Go to www dot 2 00:00:13,199 --> 00:00:18,839 The Benjamin Dixon Show dot com to register for our blog and join the Progressive 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:27,519 Art. Today is Tuesday, June twentieth, twenty and twenty three. Thank 4 00:00:27,559 --> 00:00:31,160 you so much for joining me. We were off yesterday celebrating June tenth, 5 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:38,439 which is the federal holiday that commemorates the quote unquote end of slavery. I 6 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,479 put that in quotations because as we all know, as we have been instructed, 7 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,759 as I have been instructed by my dear friend and mentor and who I 8 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:51,359 consider to be the historian of our people, doctor Carl Mack. In fact, 9 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,640 the way I met doctor Carl Mack was on an episode of Roland Martin 10 00:00:55,719 --> 00:01:00,640 Unfiltered about two years ago, where he informed us, and this was the 11 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:03,640 first time I had ever come to this knowledge. He let us know that 12 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,879 June tenth was not the end of slavery for the United States of America. 13 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,480 It was the end of slavery for the state of Texas. June nineteenth, 14 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,959 eighteen sixty five, General Gordon Granger came to the shores of Galveston, Texas 15 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,760 with some ten thousand Union soldiers, of which I just learned yesterday. In 16 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:26,120 the year of our Lower twenty twenty three, six thousand of those soldiers were 17 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:30,200 Black Union soldiers. And I just want you to pause for a moment and 18 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,959 consider what it was like for black people who were enslaved in Texas to see 19 00:01:36,359 --> 00:01:42,159 six thousand black Union soldiers come with their weapons at the ready, telling these 20 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:53,120 demented confederates to let our people go. Historians state that the celebrations began immediately 21 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,760 in the state of Texas June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, and those celebrations 22 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,799 spread across the country. It was such a momentous and I mean earth shattering 23 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,520 moment for the state of Texas, but particularly the black people there to see 24 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:13,400 the power of the black Union soldiers under the leadership of General Gordon Granger. 25 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:16,560 Right, you know, all the other components that led to that moment, 26 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:23,039 we recognize that, but owned that day. At that moment, black people 27 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,280 started celebrating because they saw something that they never saw before, black men with 28 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,719 power telling the people who were abusing them to let our people go. And 29 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:38,520 so those celebrations started to spread all over the country. And in fact, 30 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,280 I first learned about June tenth, probably going close to a decade ago, 31 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:47,120 when I was living in Boston, Massachusetts, and we went to a celebration 32 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:53,639 in the park in Roxbury, Roxbury, Massachusetts, one of the most exhilarating 33 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:58,199 and enjoyable, I mean, the blackest. It was just it was a 34 00:02:58,199 --> 00:03:02,159 good day to be black when I learned about Juneteenth in the first place, 35 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:07,520 And it just shows you how far those celebrations spread. And so because of 36 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,879 what happened on June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, those celebrations spread across the 37 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:15,719 country. But it was not until December six, eighteen sixty five, that 38 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,840 slavery ended for the entire nation with the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment. Between 39 00:03:21,879 --> 00:03:24,960 those times, between that time, between June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five and 40 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,680 December six, eighteen sixty five, some two hundred and twenty five thousand black 41 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:38,159 people were still enslaved. And so as the nation celebrates and commemorates Juneteenth, 42 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:42,080 just keep in mind the liberation did not come for two hundred and twenty five 43 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,800 thousand black people, more black people, until December six, eighteen sixty five. 44 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,000 I'll talk more about that later in today's episode, because it was a 45 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:57,520 really bad day for Confederates and for black conservatives. We'll talk about that in 46 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:03,520 a moment, but first, Doctor Peter is a world renowned pediatrician virologist, 47 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:12,759 scientists who developed additional vaccines that were used in the underdeveloped are rather overexploited nations 48 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,839 during COVID nineteen. Well respected and roll respected amongst his peers, amongst other 49 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:25,000 scientists. Over the weekend, if you were online at all, are plugged 50 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,639 into the news at all, you saw what happened with Robert Kennedy Junior, 51 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:34,879 Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk dog piling on top of this scientists because well, 52 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,959 he called out Joe Rogan. He called out Joe Rogan for hosting and 53 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:46,600 amplifying the anti VAXX message of Robert Kennedy Junior. In response, Joe Rogan 54 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,759 took to social media and challenged him to a debate, said, come on 55 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,439 my show, Come on my show and debate Robert Kennedy Junior, who is 56 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:59,199 neither a scientist nor a smart man. And you don't really debate with people 57 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,759 who are conspiracy theorist because it amplifies the conspiracy theories. But that didn't stop 58 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,959 Elon Musk from chiming in and egging it on. That didn't stop people like 59 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,160 Tim Pool offering one hundred thousand dollars for the debate, and then the pool 60 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,040 of money began to grow further and further further, bigger and bigger and bigger. 61 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:21,079 You had more and more conservatives who wanted to see this debate happen between 62 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:27,279 an actual scientist and Robert Kennedy Junior. I want to play a clip from 63 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:34,519 MSNBC medi Hassan who interviewed Peter Hotez Sunday night in response to this challenge to 64 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,959 debate. RFK has contributed to a culture, a vaccine misinformation culture that has 65 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,360 led to the deaths, as you say, hundreds of thousands of lives. 66 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,879 And yet he's the one being celebrated by tech billionaires like Musk and Jack Dorsey, 67 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:48,879 while you're being smeared and defamed. And I would say, I don't 68 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:53,360 know if you've agreed to debate or not. My advice is not too And 69 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:56,879 people might find that surprising because I wrote a book about debate. But I 70 00:05:56,959 --> 00:05:59,279 just think there's a time and a place for a debate. I don't think 71 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,560 historian of World War two should debate a Holocaust denial. I just think that's 72 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:09,319 my analogy here, Like I don't think these debates between experts and cranks do 73 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:13,079 anything other than elevate the cranks. Well, you're absolutely right. I mean, 74 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,720 there are certain things you'd debate. I understand what a debate about eighteenth 75 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:21,079 century Enlightenment philosophy is in debating Rousseau and Bishop Bishop Barkley, I understand what 76 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:26,480 political debates are. But in science, we don't typically do debates. What 77 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,920 we do is we write scientific papers. We present our findings in front of 78 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:34,959 a critical audience of our peers to solicit their their input in suggestions. But 79 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:42,040 it's one doesn't typically debate science. Maybe the one off discussion of evolution versus 80 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:45,600 creationism and that sort of thing, But that's not what we do in science 81 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,399 exactly correct. You write papers, you submit them for peer review, and 82 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:51,519 if it's a review and you accept it, it's put it published in a 83 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,399 journal, and then you go to a conference and you can debate with scientists 84 00:06:56,399 --> 00:07:01,519 about any disagreements they have remaining about your about your position. One of the 85 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,439 best responses I saw to this was across social media. There are a couple 86 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:10,480 of people who said, listen, if RFK really wants to debate the validity 87 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,759 of what doctor Peter Hotez is saying, write an article, not an article 88 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,759 to be published in mainstream media, but a scientific article, and publish it 89 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:25,720 in a journal and let it be peer reviewed. We have processes for scientific 90 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,199 debate. It isn't going on Joe Rogan Show and discussing it with Robert Kennedy 91 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:34,720 Jr. Who was an anti vaxer. And I absolutely love how Matti put 92 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,199 it. Medi Hassan put it. He said, you would not ask a 93 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,639 World War Two historian to debate a Holocaust denier. What common ground based in 94 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:50,279 truth can they actually find? There is no common ground because the Holocaust denier 95 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:57,720 denies truth. Anti vaxers deny truth. But this is the nature of our 96 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,160 times in which we live. People with the most money are some of the 97 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,720 dumbest people in the history of our planet. And you have to forgive me 98 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:07,839 because my language and my rhetoric towards these morons has changed and will get even 99 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,519 more pointed. I used to spend a lot of time trying to elevate the 100 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,680 discourse by saying things like intentionally optus, when I really meant they're dumb. 101 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:20,680 I used to say things like they're willfully ignorant, when I really meant that 102 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,600 they were stupid. And I feel like we've wasted a lot of time with 103 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,720 these anti vacs morons, and to the point where we've seen hundreds of thousands 104 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:37,159 of people die from the pandemic because these anti vactors like Robert Kennedy Junior invested 105 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,399 their time and their money into spreading vaccine hesitation, vaccine hesitancy right, just 106 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:48,879 outright fear and rejection. And now the saddest thing about it is we are 107 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,799 on the losing side. The people who actually follow the science, the people 108 00:08:54,080 --> 00:09:00,279 who realize my expertise is X, Y and Z. That person's expertise is 109 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,840 science. This entire community's expertise is science. And we have scientific consensus amongst 110 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:13,159 the vast majority of scientists across the globe that the vaccine was effective and safe. 111 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:18,960 We have trials of billions of people who took the vaccine, and the 112 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:26,039 prevailing claims of problems with the vaccine come through an unverified source, theirs the 113 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:33,840 Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System, which does not verify a single claim, but 114 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:39,120 the claims of scientists have been verified by peer reviewed research. I'm sorry, 115 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:46,080 we do not have time to coddle dumb people anymore. We are empowering their 116 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,759 agenda. I know when I said intentional. When I say the phrase intentionally 117 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:56,200 optus, I do mean something different than just dumb people. I do mean 118 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,440 that they are intentionally being stupid for the purposes of the political agenda. But 119 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,039 we don't even have time for that distinction anymore, because we really do need 120 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:09,559 the world to understand that there is a base, there is a base of 121 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:16,519 stupidity in this species, on this planet of people who are either doing it 122 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,279 on purpose for financial gain, or they have been duped so long that they 123 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,159 are so far gone that I'm sorry, I don't have time to coddle you 124 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,679 either, because people are still dying from the pandemic, and these are the 125 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:31,000 same people. This is the same group of people. The Ven diagram of 126 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:37,240 anti vaxers and flat earthers is probably a full circle. The Ven diagram between 127 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:41,720 anti vaxers, between a flat earthers, and between client deniatives. It's probably 128 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:48,080 close to at least a seventy five percent overlap. The very worst of our 129 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:52,480 society have galvanized around the richest people on the planet, and they are spreading 130 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:56,519 the worst conspiracies imaginable. So forgive me if this seems a little harsh, 131 00:10:56,519 --> 00:11:01,519 but we don't have time to debate dummies. We got to defeat them for 132 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:28,480 the sake of HU manage them. Do I wonder if you recall the video 133 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:35,240 of the quote unquote father who went into the Lego store and went off on 134 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:43,360 the employees because they had on Pride flag pins. The Lego groups, yeah, 135 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:50,440 supports Valgy. So the question is, why are you all in here 136 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,679 with those pins on? Do you think children care about what man subs at 137 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:03,919 home and what girl eats? Do you think that I just won't I need 138 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,919 to prime that up in your memory banks keep that in mind for the rest 139 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,600 of the day's episode, because yesterday was a really difficult day for the guy 140 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,480 who created that video. But before we get there, I have to discuss 141 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,360 another not so intelligent person who has a lot of power. Donald Trump went 142 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,919 on Fox News Brett Bear last night and all but confessed. I'm sorry, 143 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:31,799 it looks like he confessed to every single thing he has been indicted for by 144 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,200 special counsel Jack Smith. Listen to this exchange between Fox news host Brett bar 145 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,840 and Donald Trump, and tell me if you hear the same confession that I 146 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,519 hear. According to the indictment, you were here at Bedminster on July twenty 147 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,159 one, twenty twenty one, after you're no longer president, and you were 148 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,039 recorded saying that you had a document to telling a planned attack on another country 149 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,360 that was prepared by the US military for you when you were president, the 150 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,559 Iran attack plan. You remember that, ready, you were courts in a 151 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:03,799 document. I had lots of paper, I had copies of newspaper articles, 152 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:07,960 I had copies of magazines. I said specifically, quote you're quoted on the 153 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,519 recording saying the document was secret, adding that you could have declassified it while 154 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,000 you were president. But quote, now I can't. You know this is 155 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,320 still secret, highly confidential. And the indictment sites of the recording and the 156 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:24,000 testimony from people in the room saying you showed it to people there that day. 157 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:28,320 So you say on this on tape says just the opposite that you can't 158 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,000 classify. So why have it? What I said? What I said that 159 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,039 I couldn't beat classify it now that because I wasn't president. I never made 160 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,720 any bones about that when I'm not president, I can't eat lassify. You 161 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,879 said that, I said no, no, I said I couldn't had that 162 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,440 class of document read. There was no document. That was a massive amount 163 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:54,480 of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And it may 164 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,279 have been held up or may not, but that was not a document. 165 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,480 I didn't have a document per se. There was nothing to do classify. 166 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:05,039 These were newspaper stories, magazine stories, and article. I'm that last part 167 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:11,840 is basically him trying to undo what he just did, which was to admit 168 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,000 again. I mean, they already have it on recording right the and and 169 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:20,320 I'm not one to really get Fox News much credit, but credit to Brett 170 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:26,360 Bear for being able to follow Donald Trump's fast talking, because Donald Trump is 171 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:31,759 so used to being able to fast talk his way out of situations. Um, 172 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,960 but this is not a situation that he could fast talk himself out of. 173 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,799 In fact, he's digging himself even deeper. So now his claim is 174 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:43,480 that there were no documents, This is there were just newspaper articles and clippings. 175 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:46,159 That's the way he's trying to get out of what he just admitted to, 176 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:50,519 which was this part what I said, what I said that I couldn't 177 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,039 beat classify it. Now, that's because I wasn't president. I never made 178 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,759 any months about that. When I'm not president, I can't eat classify. 179 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,399 You said that, I said, no, No. The problem for Donald 180 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:09,320 Trump is that there is an audio recording that he himself admits to showing them 181 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:15,000 a document that he had not declassified while he was president. Now he just 182 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:20,559 confirmed that he knows that he could not declassify that document because well, he 183 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,559 wasn't president at the time, and once he realized what he did, he 184 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:26,600 decided to say, oh, wait a minute, No, there were no 185 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:30,360 documents. It was just newspaper clippings. There's no document. That was a 186 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:35,840 massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And 187 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,799 it may have been held up or may not, but that was not a 188 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,440 document. I didn't have a document per se. There was nothing to declassimate. 189 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:45,960 These were newspaper stories, magazine stories, and article. I'm just now 190 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:50,639 not that this part is particularly important, because well, he's already admitted on 191 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:56,279 the previous audio that he had classified documents that he was getting ready to show 192 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:02,360 the people. But Donald Trump, really, if there was nothing but newspaper 193 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:07,399 articles and magazine articles and clippings that you were referring to. Why would you 194 00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:15,679 have even brought up the conversation of the inability to declassify said magazine articles. 195 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:22,600 No one thinks to discuss declassifying articles from Time magazine or Newsweek. You only 196 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:29,559 discuss declassifying classified documents. But is this not the best example of the Dunning 197 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:33,120 Krueger effect where you are not even aware of how dumb you are, but 198 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:37,320 you think you are an expert. Is that the theme of today's episode? 199 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:41,919 Because is not Joe Rogan and Robert Kennedy. Well, Robert Kennedy Jr. 200 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,440 He's a grifting scumbag. But Joe Rogan is probably another great example of the 201 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:51,879 Dunning Kruger effect. But Donald Trump takes the prize when he is he really 202 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,320 believes and his life the ease of his life. No one has ever told 203 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,159 him, No, He's never been corrected. His life has fooled him him 204 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,160 into thinking he is smarter than he is. And he can't even handle Brett 205 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,920 Bear on Fox News. So now, what do you think he's going to 206 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:15,200 do when it's time for this trial to begin? Go to www dot Patreon 207 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:22,000 dot com. Forward slash the BPD Show and get twice the content and unfiltered 208 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,519 interviews without any of the commercial interruptions. Here we go, very special. 209 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:30,839 Welcome to three new patrons. Jackie, thank you so much for becoming a 210 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,119 patron, Robin, thank you so much for becoming a patron. 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Welcome back. 220 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,640 Um real quick. I gotta give a shout out to Andy from Ohio. 221 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,519 Andy, thank you so much. As I'm preparing today's episode of recording, 222 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:52,759 she sent me a cash app for a happy belated Juneteenth. Now see that's 223 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,960 an ally. Okay, shout out to all the white allies who sent black 224 00:18:56,039 --> 00:19:00,440 people cash apps for Juneteenth. I saw it. I saw would do that 225 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,039 old Twitter, and I didn't share my cash app because I was like, 226 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,720 you know whatever. But they're like, if you really want to support a 227 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:10,000 black friend for Juneteenth, send them a cash app. I guess Andy saw 228 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,680 that from somewhere else on Twitter and said, you know what, let me 229 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:15,880 do that for brother Ben. So I thank you so much, Andy, 230 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:21,839 cash app BPD twenty eighteen. If you're so inclined, I let's talk a 231 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,400 little bit about twenty twenty four. This past weekend, I did an episode 232 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,880 of Click Baby Political thirst Trap with Marcus Farrell and Mondale Mayor Mondale Robinson, 233 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:37,160 and we are looking forward to having doctor Cornell West be on. We wanted 234 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,240 to have him on this past Sunday, but it looks like we're gonna have 235 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:44,880 to go for another Sunday episode to get him on. We came back together 236 00:19:45,599 --> 00:19:48,880 because he announced that he's running for president and now he's running not with the 237 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:55,079 People's Party, which is thank you, doctor West, but running with the 238 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,599 Green Party. Here's a clip of a Julia Baraka, who is a former 239 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,519 vice presidential candidate for the Green Party, as he discussed the twenty twenty four 240 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:10,400 election with Brianna Joy Gray of The Hill Rising. And I want you to 241 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:17,480 listen to this clip because this particular attitude. And I like brother Juma well 242 00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:22,480 enough. I think he's a decent person, and I think his politics are 243 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:30,319 generally good on most issues. But this idea of accelerationism that is prevailing on 244 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:38,359 the left is detrimental to everyone. And I need you to hear this clip 245 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,160 that is going around making its rounds, and it is of Juma Baraka discussing 246 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:51,359 the fact that he would rather see Donald Trump win in twenty twenty four than 247 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,759 Joe Biden win in twenty twenty four. And this is the exact sentiment that 248 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:03,240 I have a deeply rooted problem again, because there is a fallacious assumption underneath 249 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:08,119 all of this, all of accelerationism, that what emerges out of the chaos 250 00:21:08,279 --> 00:21:15,440 that comes through accelerationism, which is to allow the country and allow everything to 251 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:21,519 go down as fast as humanly possible so that something can emerge from the ashes. 252 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,680 Historically, have we ever seen a time when, in the face of 253 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:33,160 violence and war and destruction. Have we ever seen progress emerge from that? 254 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:38,119 Listen to this. Let Donald Trump come back again in twenty twenty four. 255 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,000 I believe in the people. I believe we're gonna survive a double Donald Trump. 256 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Okay, I'm more concerned about surviving another Biden administration because it's for me, 257 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,839 the cutting edge of Leo fascism of the US isn't just the so called 258 00:21:52,839 --> 00:22:00,279 Trump Trump bites. It is the neoliberal ruling clients that is completely captured state. 259 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:04,400 They are the cunning edge of a particular kind of fascism in this country, 260 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:11,000 the neoliberal Democrats. It's hard to argue with that, and I'm glad 261 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:17,359 I'm not in an ideological position where I want to go. I'm sorry, 262 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,640 but Donald Trump? Is he not a part of the ruling elite? And 263 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:26,680 at what point did we start believing that Republicans are not a part of the 264 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:32,920 ruling elite? Conservatives are not a part of the ruling elite? Rich billionaire 265 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:37,160 white men who can command the media the way they see fit. When did 266 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,319 they stop being a part of the ruling elite? Or is it God forbid 267 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:47,559 that they're rooting this analysis, this quote unquote analysis in the fact that the 268 00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:56,400 word neoliberal contains liberal. Could it be that because nobody has performed neoliberalism better 269 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,640 than the Republican Party. In fact, it was brought to us in part 270 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,079 by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, right conservative across the pond and a conservative 271 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:11,039 in the White House of the United States of America. They brought neoliberal economic 272 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:18,680 control to this country. So when did we stop thinking that Conservatives and Republicans 273 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:26,720 who are the beneficiaries of neoliberal economic policy? But when do we stop believing 274 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:30,400 that they were actually a part of the ruling elite. Okay, so never 275 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:37,240 mind the logic being problematic at best, the accelerationism that's underneath that, and 276 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,720 the willingness to turn this country back over into the hands of fascists. Listen, 277 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:48,119 vothe for who you won't to, but please in your arguments, can 278 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,119 we at least agree that accelerationism is societal suicide? Like, why should we 279 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:59,839 make the assumption, the very dangerous assumption that if we turn this back over 280 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:04,079 into the hands of actual fascists who want to add on top of their neoliberal 281 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,960 fascism, they want to add on top of it democratic control. They do 282 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,720 not want democracy how is it rational to think that we would be able to 283 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:23,319 recover from people who have been strategically working on dismantling the mechanisms of democracy for 284 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:30,599 decades and now are in striking distance. You can again vote for who you 285 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,480 want to vote for, but please, let's let's not do it based on 286 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:41,440 fallacious arguments. Let's not do it by absolving the fascists who are at the 287 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,880 gate, who are actually in the system already, the people who are actively 288 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:52,359 working to suppress your vote, to suppress democracy, who are actively working calling 289 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,039 for the execution of gath and transgender people. Right, We're that's who we're 290 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:03,119 dealing with when we're discussing the modern Republican Party and the modern conservative movement. 291 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:10,720 They are actively advocating for the execution of the LGBTQIA community. And for us 292 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:15,799 to just casually say, oh, the bidens are a form of neoliberalism that 293 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:22,079 Republicans aren't, and then some we are we working with the same definition of 294 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:30,079 neoliberalism because neoliberalism is an economic paradigm. It is an economic system that every 295 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:37,319 part of the ruling elite benefits from, especially the Republican Party, who consistently 296 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,519 gives themselves tax breaks, two seventeen tax breaks, two trillion dollars worth of 297 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:45,079 tax breaks going to the wealthiest in this country. What type of systemic controls 298 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,720 do you think they employed with that? Do you think that they just went 299 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:52,039 home and went to the beach, are got into a submarine and went to 300 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,400 the bottom to try to go see the Titanic. Do you think they all 301 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,240 just did that with their money or did they employ and engage age in systemic 302 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:08,319 suppression of voters rights, in systemic oppression against the LGBTQYA community and the black 303 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:14,880 community. Do you think that these billionaires who took that two thousand and seventeen 304 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,039 tax break, do you think they just went home and decided, you know, 305 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:21,160 we have our money and we're just going to sit quietly over here because 306 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,279 we don't want to get involved in politics as the ruling elite. Now again, 307 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,480 we are making every effort that we can to get doctor Coronel West on 308 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:34,039 a couple of shows Click Baity. We're hoping to get him next Sunday, 309 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,440 this coming Sunday, the podcast. If I can get him on the podcast, 310 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,319 a certain will and most certainly own like it or not. With Rebecca 311 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,720 Zor and DJ Exclusive because we want to engage, We want to talk, 312 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,240 we want to discuss, and we want to discuss our concerns and listen to 313 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,000 his rebuttals to them and see exactly where he stands and let everyone hear him 314 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,880 for himself. I know you can hear him on other podcasts, but there 315 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,400 will be questions that we will ask that other people aren't asking. So we're 316 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,559 not afraid to engage with doctor West or with a third party candidate, because 317 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,519 one, I have so much respect for doctor West. But what I don't 318 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:12,640 have any respect for is accelerationism. I don't because it assumes that we have 319 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,799 time to recover from the destruction that will come when the fascists are given the 320 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:53,200 power. So let's go back to Juneteenth and the meltdown that happened across conservative 321 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:59,279 media, across the Confederacy. Charlie Kirk, who is the founder of Turning 322 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,519 Points You Sam, He is also the founder of Turning Points US A faith. 323 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,680 That last part is very important to keep that in mind. This Turning 324 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,119 Points USA and then there's Turning Points USA faith. This is what he said 325 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:17,519 on his Twitter timeline yesterday. He said, you should be working today, 326 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,200 not taking off for a CRT inspired federal holiday that competes with July fourth. 327 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,640 Then he went on, funny enough, can I just make an aside, 328 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,400 real quick, funny enough, these are the same people who are trying to 329 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,559 push Robert Kennedy Junior on the Democratic Party because the tweet before that says this 330 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,319 from Charlie Kirk quote RFK Junior is gaining real steam. The media is struggling 331 00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:42,680 to censor him. He is challenging the Democratic Party from within. I just 332 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:47,440 want to throw that in there for a bonus for you guys to understand that 333 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:52,880 the guy who is being promoted by the likes of white supremacists adjacent alleged white 334 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,960 supremacists got a cover by butt right. Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon has even 335 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,599 come out for Robert Kennedy Junior. That's the guy that they want to be 336 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,759 the nominee for the Democratic Party. But I digress. So yesterday he Charlie 337 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,960 Kirk went even further and he said, if June tenth was really about emancipation, 338 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,480 why not September twenty second, eighteen sixty two when Lincoln issued the Emancipation 339 00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:18,640 Proclamation. January he just starts doubling down on attacking June teenth, m I 340 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:23,960 played for you earlier a clip from back a few months ago when this black 341 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:30,000 father and I'm using air quotes there because people when they do these types of 342 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,720 stunts, they try to describe themselves in the most innocuous way possible. But 343 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,319 I played you the clip of the black father who went into the Lego store 344 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:44,079 and attacked verbally attacked the Lego employees because they were wearing flag pins. Listen 345 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,880 again to the small portion. The question is why are you all in here 346 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,160 with those pins on? Do you think children care about what man sucks at 347 00:29:53,240 --> 00:30:00,640 home? What girl each vaginas? Do you think they can guess who that 348 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,720 black man works for? That quote unquote black father, because he described himself 349 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,640 as a black father, but he didn't identify himself as an employee of Turning 350 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Points USA Faith. He's a contributor at Turning Points USA Faith. In fact, 351 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:17,960 the reason that video went viral was because Charlie Kirk shared it across all 352 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:22,160 of his social media and this black preacher by the name of John Ka Mantuqua. 353 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:26,640 I'm sorry, and I don't mispronounce this. If I mispronounce his last 354 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:27,519 name, it is not because I'm trying to be funny. It's because there's 355 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,559 a difficult name. Y'all know I have a hard time of names. But 356 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:37,839 Pastor John kay A Mantuqua was the guy who was in that video. Now, 357 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,039 okay, that was old news. I really just was joking yesterday when 358 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,920 I was saying that it was going to be a really hard time for black 359 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,039 conservatives, because here's the thing. If you're a black conservative and you get 360 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:57,519 your paycheck from these people who are alleged to white supremacist, white supremacist adjacent 361 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,119 certainly Nazi and fascist ad Jason, if you're getting your check from people who 362 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,319 hate black people so much that they would rather go to work on a federal 363 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,319 holiday than to take off a federal holiday because they just don't want to be 364 00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:17,359 associated with that critical race theory inspired holiday, Yesterday had to be extremely difficult 365 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,039 for you because you had to sit back and watch your bosses just outright attack 366 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:29,720 your blackness. And you can't really say a whole lot unless you're willing to 367 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,119 risk your paycheck. So if you're I mean, and this is this is 368 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:40,559 me making the assumption that these these black conservatives like uh John reviend wool truth 369 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:45,960 r ev WU t r U th across social media. You know, I'm 370 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,799 going underneath the assumption that he actually is a black man, that he actually 371 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,119 does love his blackness, that he loves his black people. But then my 372 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,799 question to him that he blocked me for like two seconds later. I've never 373 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,440 been blocked so quick. I just asked them yesterday, like bro, brother 374 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,680 pastor, from one preacher to another, does your congregation of black people know 375 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,759 that your other boss believes this about their freedom, That he believes that we 376 00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,799 should not celebrate Juneteenth, that he dismisses it as a CRT inspired holiday, 377 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,759 That he is a part of this cabal of white people who have made their 378 00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:29,640 careers off of attacking wokeness. I'm really curious if that black preacher's black congregation 379 00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:35,039 realizes that he is employed also by someone who hates blackness, who hates the 380 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,480 idea of being woke, which is just the nice way for them to save 381 00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:44,400 the in word. In twenty and twenty three, I wonder because what has 382 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:49,519 happened is a lot of black voices in the conservative space have been amplified because 383 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:53,279 they agree with the homophobian. This is why I brought back the lego clip 384 00:32:54,039 --> 00:33:00,079 Rev Wou Truth at Rev Woo Truth across social media became a sensation, a 385 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:06,279 star, I mean amongst black people, amongst conservatives and bunks. I mean, 386 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,359 because we've already discussed the intersection of the bigotry that they have come and 387 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:15,799 ground on right, and we've discussed how many times, how many times are 388 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,240 we going to see black people start to align with white supremacists because they have 389 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,960 an agreement on the homophobia and the transphobia. But days like June Tea, 390 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,000 which not even really the right holiday for us to celebrate in terms of the 391 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:36,640 actual end of slavery, but anything associated with blackness, anything that associates with 392 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:42,160 blackness, is under attacked by the very people who are employing people like Rev. 393 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,559 Wou Truth. Now he's a contributor over there. I don't know what 394 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,839 percentage of his income comes from it, but I do know what percentage of 395 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,279 his notoriety comes from it. All of it, all of it, Because 396 00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,039 how many people even knew this guy existed before Charlie Kirk put him on his 397 00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:59,759 shoulders and say, look, here's a black man who agrees with us. 398 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,720 Well, I wonder if his black congregation knows and I'm I'm not just trying 399 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,640 to come after that brother, because I'm sure he's a good black man. 400 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,280 I'm sure he loves his children just as much as I love my children. 401 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,159 I'm sure he loves the Lord as much as I love the Lord. But 402 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,920 I really do want to know if his black congregation realizes that he is working 403 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:22,480 for a person who cannot stand their blackness. Joe tenth is a really hard 404 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:27,719 day for Black Conservatives and Confederates. I wonder why they have that pain and 405 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,880 anguish in common. Patron stay tuned, everyone else will see them all. 406 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:39,400 The Benjamin Dixon Show is only possible with listener support. Go to www dot 407 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:45,840 patreon dot com, forward slash the BPD Show and support The Benjamin Dixon Show. 408 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,159 If you like this episode, be sure to share, like, and subscribe.